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They both were elected in 2010 under the Tea Party banner after beating primary opponents favored by the Republican establishment. They’re both rising stars in the modern GOP, and, last weekend, they finished first and second place in a straw poll of conservatives’ pick of a presidential nominee for 2016.
And as they both maneuver to mount their own campaigns that year – or, at least, preserve the option of doing so – Sens. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Marco Rubio, R-Fla., must share the spotlight. Intentionally or not, they’re already jockeying to do so.
Both senators have carefully worked to build their national profiles following the 2012 election, using high-profile opportunities to plot slightly different paths toward the same goal.
On no issue is that more apparent than immigration.
Rubio had joined with three other Senate Republicans and four Senate Democrats in recent months to forge a bipartisan framework on a comprehensive overhaul to immigration laws that would provide undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship. The Florida senator embarked on a media tour in the weeks following the framework’s unveiling to sell the plan to skeptical conservatives, doing the legwork to build political cover for the plan (and gain valuable exposure to the Republican base in the meanwhile).
Sen. Rand Paul explains portions of his immigration reform plan on Tuesday while speaking at the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Legislative Summit.
Paul made clear with a speech on Tuesday – in which he unveiled his own plan creating an eventual pathway to citizenship – that Rubio isn’t the only GOP player on the issue.
“Immigration reform will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution,” Paul told the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. “I am here today to begin that conversation.”
Both Paul and Rubio might support the broader goal of immigration reform; they both took strides to carve out public roles for themselves in the process.
For her part, Rubio ally Ana Navarro said the notion of a rivalry between the two men was “overblown by the media.”
“Rand Paul is a leader in the Republican Party, and he should add his voice to the debate on immigration. His voice can and does make a difference,” she said. “The bottom line is, this is not an issue Marco or any one senator individually can or should carry alone on his shoulders. The more people helping to carry the ball, the more likely we will cross the finish line.”
But while the two senators might not share a formal rivalry, they are undoubtedly two of the GOP’s biggest stars right now whose utterances alone command attention.
Look no further than last week’s Conservative Political Action Conference, where Paul and Rubio finished first and second, respectively, in the gathering’s closely-watched straw poll. A quarter of straw poll participants supported Paul and 23 percent threw their support behind Rubio. (The two gave back-to-back speeches on Thursday at CPAC.) The next closest finisher in the straw poll checked in at 7 percent.
The close finish between the two senators reflects all the work beyond immigration they’ve each done to burnish their profiles in 2013.
Republican leaders, of course, tapped Rubio to deliver their official response to President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address – a speech that was generally well received for its content, if ridiculed for the Florida senator’s awkward pause for a swig of bottled water.
Delivering the official Tea Party response to the State of the Union that very evening? None other than Paul.
Sen. Marco Rubio talks with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres during Rubio's trip to Israel.
Rubio has also built up his foreign policy credentials by taking a trip in February to Israel and Jordan, and delivering major policy addresses (including one about that trip abroad).
Paul, meanwhile, drew considerable attention for his filibuster of Obama’s nominee to head the CIA on March 6, a 13-hour affair that won him praise from fellow Republicans. (Rubio at one point appeared on the Senate floor to deliver his own remarks in favor of Paul’s efforts.)
"Rand has made progress with the filibuster," said Dave Carney, the chief strategist for Texas Gov. Rick Perry's presidential campaign and a political consultant based in the influential primary state of New Hampshire. "Neither one has huge advantage here as of now."
Both senators are undeniably positioning themselves with 2016 in mind. Paul is at least open about that, acknowledging his potential interest in seeking the Republican nomination (like his father, former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas) in several interviews. The Iowa GOP on Tuesday announced that Paul would headline their Lincoln Day dinner, further stoking speculation.
Rubio’s team is quicker to downplay the Florida senator’s ambitions, dismissing any talk of a presidential campaign as far too premature, just a few months removed from the last campaign.
But as each of them jockey for pole position heading into 2016, it may fall to the differences between Rubio and Paul to distinguish themselves from each other. For starters, Paul tends to emphasize a more libertarian and cautious foreign policy, while Rubio has generally been more willing to strike hawkish tones.
Both senators’ CPAC speeches are also instructive in parsing out how they make their pitch to conservatives.
Paul made a firm appeal, for instance, to revolutionize the Republican Party, and return the GOP to its small-government, libertarian roots.
“They want leaders that won't feed them a line of crap or sell them short. They aren't afraid of individual liberty,” he said of the new generation of young conservatives, calling the current GOP establishment “stale and moss-covered.”
Rubio, by contrast, emphasized his own biography as the son of immigrants, and stressed aspirational tone in his speech to CPAC.
“We don’t need a new idea, the idea is America, and it still works,” the Florida senator said.
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Sen. Rubio is my choice
Rand is a close second
Good luck.
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Hillary 2016...too...then we got a race.
P.S.: My interest in new GOP faces is totally due to my preference for a viable 2 -party system. That's all. The 2 parties fight for the heart and soul of America - the best show on earth.
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Hillary 2016
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The Tea party guy and the Ayn Rand/libertarian guy will now be the poster children for the Republican party for the next cylce.
It will be a long journey to 2016, God help us all.
We have a two-party system right now Piggy... The Democrats, and Gov. Christie!
Any headline speaker from the RNC that can't get invited to CPAC in the same cycle is as close as you can come to a viable Republican candidate nowadays.
Who wants to be the captain of the Titanic known as the GOP/TP?
Seriously people, does anybody really give a crap about these two self serving right wing jerks.
'Pigotry
P.S.: My interest in new GOP faces is totally due to my preference for a viable 2 -party system. That's all. The 2 parties fight for the heart and soul of America - the best show on earth."
SO far I would say that our two party system is for the few..not the majority. All you have to do is look at what congress has done over the years..which is nothing...granted..some taxes have been cut..but who benefited most from these cuts and who is pushing for even more ? Congress is looking to cut education for our children..collage funding for students wanting to go...and now cuts are being asked for there also..interesting part of that is for Rubio..who used that funding which he now wants along with most other republicans to cut. I would like to see all of congress working for us all..not the few that they are pushing to help out today.
Spoiler Alert: I don't think there is one Democrat or Republican who didn't already know this!
Rand Paul 2016!
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I don't see either of them holding up through the primaries. Too green. Republicans would do better with a centrist.
The choice is two tea party favorites. Continually putting up far right candidates means losing many moderate Republicans. Suddenly showing an interest in Hispanics won't fool any it's simply lipstick on a pig. You know their core beliefs are anti immigrant and anti minority.
Bring out the clown cars.
STFU Pigotry , go bash your party , their is more then enough azzholes in it to keep your dumb azz busy for years , and HA HA HA no ban on the big bad AR-15 or large mags , what losers the democrap party is . now FACK OFF!
Calm down, cliff-1955574 (1.11).
You and your Repukelican friends are the losers.
Better get some help--you obviously need it.
Why would Rubio run? Who would ever elect a senator with such little experience on the national stage? He wasn't a community organizer or something relevant was he?
Two-party with viable candidates versus extreme candidates from either party would make for a better campaign and election choices. Add in a viable Independent or third-party candidate and we might really have something.
This article is part of a Saturday Night live comedy skit .......right.....somebody.....Right?????
I would vote for either one in a heartbeat. I prefer a candidate who understands the constitution and is willing to stand up for that, rather than the Democratic party who will give away the farm to stay in power and the majority of the Republicans who aren't much better.
This country is turning into a society that refuses to hold each other accountable for their own actions, a society where everything is fair for everyone, a society where everyone looks to the government to solve their problems, a society that vilifies the so called rich (i.e. the producers) while the politicians stoke that stupidity while they line their pockets with our money. Gimme, gimme, gimme
There is so much waste in our government, but as the sequester debacle has shown, neither party has the guts to do what is right. Spending could be cut 10-15% right now and if done properly, 99% of the country would never know. Congress pushes for spending on military equipment that the military has said is not needed. Congress refuses to make simple changes to the US Postal Service that could make it solvent. Obama stops tours of the White House but gives Egypt $500M. It's never ending!
The waste is endless, yet you morons keep puffing out your chest, posting all your regurgitated socialist talking points while the country spends it's way into bankruptcy.
That is correct! They are already preparing themselves to be the NEXT CLOWNS OF THE GOP!!!
The jokes are already starting..."Give away the farm" EXCUSE ME? The GOP wanted to give away not only the farm, but the whole COUNTRY to war, oil lords, and everything else to line their pockets!!
Same old lame arguments from the GOP fans
Surprised Rubio's head didn't explode after coming in second to Rand Paul. That had to hurt.
And I'm sure its gonna leave a mark.
Rand Paul is for upholding the Constitution, Liberty and Justice for all. He is also our best chance to bring the out of control government establishment back in control of the people by the people. Anyone against that has their blinders on!
Jean,
Not to obvious someone has been over-served! lmao
Nothing like some impotent rage to add to the conversation! ;o)))
Rand Paul, RWNJ.
Marco Rubio, RWNJ minority.
Let's fix the Obama spending mess first. Only Obama started campaigning early. The good news is, he can't run again, the bad news is we have him until then.
So much time and so much can happen yet.
Heck, the Republican issues haven't been resolved yet - we still have to flush out the old guard, and replace them with new blood. Much unlike the Progressives who will probably shove the old hag in front of the population again.
Now talk about the old and the stale - Benghazi Hill in 2016! Can't wait to hear her debate, especially in Southern again.
Issues much? I'm not in favor necessarily of any kind of gun control, but I surely hope you legally cannot possess firearms. I really fear that you may accidentally shoot yourself. And btw, I wouldn't consider this any kind of political victory. It was never a formalized bill and never came up for any kind of vote. But see, that's the beauty of the Democrats. They know when something is a waste of time and taxpayers money, unlike the TP/GOP who can't admit defeat. Now, how many times has the House brought up a bill to repeal Obamacare? Oh wait, I'm asking the wrong person.
My dream team for '16 is Paul Ryan/Rand Paul. That match-up would be so Godawful that the entertainment value would make watching the GOP worthwhile - and hilarious.
Rubio/Paul would be a pretty good second, especially with quotes like this: “We don’t need a new idea, the idea is America, and it still works,” [Rubio] said.
See what I mean? Even the younger GOPers haven't learning a darn thing. If they'd wear those round, red clown noses it would be even funnier.
Ah here we have Dumb and dumber.. I'm just not sure which is which. But, yes let them team up and then watch Hillary crush them in 2016.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...............................................................................
Hate to break this to you friend, but if that were to happen, the Grover Norquists and Koch Brothers would swoop down and take total control. Your voice would be ignored like an ugly guy on a blind date. It's not 1776 anymore.
Rand is in danger of wearing himself out like a freshman trying to sprint an entire cross country race.
Slow and steady wins it & Rubio is correct, "the idea is America, and it still works."
My dream team for '16 would be Paul Ryan/Rand Paul. That match-up would be so Godawful that it would make the GOP worth watching - and hilarious.
Paul/Rubio would be OK too, especially when Rubio says things like: “We don’t need a new idea, the idea is America, and it still works.”
The GOP doesn't need "A new idea", they need ALL new ideas, and America has tried to tell then that.
To get a Republican back into the White House, they'll have to listen to us. GOP, America says, "We HOPE you'll CHANGE!"
Or just send out a comedy team that rivals Romney/Ryan so we'll be entertained.
Tony you said the magic words.......Norquist and Koch Brothers... have not picked their noses yet let alone pick either of these two knuckleheads.....R and R are not the chosen ones.......to lead the republicons down the road to ridicule once more....Next week the pundits punies will be stating it is Michelle Bachmann....and she will believe it..........fun huh?
Have you noticed how quiet Rubio has been about immigration, since he tried to open the door to reality, for the GOP? He got the virtual bitch-slap from the TP! lol!
seriously folks, does anyone give a crap about damaged Hillary? Her hubby is pushing for her, but obviously she is not as interested! Who else do the democrats have? Mooshell?
Maybe Barney Franks will come out of retirement and jump in... that will be fun! Forget Bloomberg he's gone off the deep end!
one trip to Israel and he is credentialed on foreign policy ? Talking to an empty house for 24 hours makes you a 'statesman' ? No wonder this country is bankrupt when you have a bunch of clowns (including democrats) who think they are making a meaningful difference and 'running' this country. They have hollowed out the country. Its going to get a lot worse soon before we even think of turning the corner. Pitiful and pathetic.
Only ~22% of American voters will even ADMIT to being Republican. . . which just goes to show you
(1) that Americans are getting smarter and
(2) why ReThuglicans want to de-fund education! they are destined to remain The Stupid Party (maybe the smartest thing Jindal ever said!)
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FORWARD! HILLARY 2016! :-)
Rand/Rubio would be a dream team! Either one is capable... but fixing obama's mess would be a nightmare for anyone!
P.S.: My interest in new GOP faces is totally due to my preference for a viable 2 -party system.
How can you seriously say that you prefer our two party system when it has been a total disaster?
Wow...this is the best we have to put forth? Luckily, there's a long road ahead maybe Scott Walker from WI or Akin maybe? Gosh this is embarrassing.
Sally....that still is Bush's mess....as republicons have voted and obstructed as they pledged 4 years ago....vote and obstruct against anything good for the country....and you have ...at a record pace filibustered and blocked anything good for America...and there you whine that all the problems Bush caused are not cleaned up yet by President Obama in 4 yrs because you republicons keep blocking anything....even healthcare for the 911 first responders.....
That's how much you hate America over your party......voted against healthcare for 911 reponders, voted against a jobs bill for Vets who are committing suicide at a record pace....
Why do republicons love $$$ over their country?
Sally Rocks classically
You mean fixing Bushes MESS has been a nightmare for Obama. Ending two foreign wars at a cost of 2 trillion, resolved the housing bubble, being pushed into the worst recession since the great depression, taking on an 11 TRILLION deficit? Hmmmmm.
Rubio... hmm.. one that said we should cut student loans even though he used them himself to go to college.
Rand...? Zero accomplishments.
When is the republicans going to look for a 'moderate' candidate?
Hillary 2016 ;)
It's a race to the bottom.
Norquist said with Romney all they needed was someone who had five digits to hold a pen not someone to develop policy. They already had a plan, the Ryan plan. I wonder which of these is pliable enough they won't try to actually be a president?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/13/grover-norquist-speech-cpac.html
It's all lip service. The American ego at its best - running for prez
These guys are just the crash test dummies. They'll force the left to show their hand, strategically, and all the while someone else is being groomed. Now Christie (SP?) has done a great job politicking - showing he is a man willing to recognize leadership and making himself look humble. There are far more experienced repubs left to run, but most are white men... that means the running mate may actually be one of these guys to attract a different demographic. Just my prediction. Wait...what is Rand exactly, martian? That may work.
LOL.....Good, one will cancel the other out, and Hillary will cancel the one left!!
Bob - Akin, really? Oh please put him up! All of us women who know you can't magically wish a pregnancy away if you're raped would just love him!
Sally who never rocked anything and neverbeenfunny idiot - you show how totally looney the far right is! You are totally out of your league. Oh, and never, you've also NEVER worked for the government - in any capacity unless you clean up rooms after meetings!
As much as I like Rubio, he cannot be pressident as he is not a Natural Born Citizen! and therefore inelgible! Neither of his parents were citizens when he was born so he is only a "native born" citizen and not natural born. The same goes for Obama also as his father was a British citizen and as such gave Obama British citizenship at birth. Obama is an inelgibe and now an illegal president! He lied to get elected and lies about everything in his life!
Dr. Howard! Dr. Fine! Dr. Howard!...Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard...Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard...
Rubio who? The guy who has Ethics Violations in FL for using his Republicans Party's Campaign fund credit cards for personal use. He plead ignorance; but being part of the GOP, Marco Rubio is just plain Unethical.
It doesn't really matter who the GOP picks. They will lose, and lose badly. You don't need a crystal ball to see the party is over.
RAND PAUL is the biggest threat to this messed up system we now have! Rand Paul wants to bring this country back to what it was founded for, less government and freedom for all. We really are running out of time to get a TRUE PATRIOT in the White House. Protect your rights, protect America! RAND PAUL 2016
Rand Paul is an obnoxious blowhard with no substance. A true patriot is someone who cares about making our country better and not living in the past. In other words, striving to make a more perfect union in a world that is nothing like it was 200 years ago when we carried muskets, owned slaves and murdered real Americans.
Any chance we can gets some DNA from FDR and Eisenhower and clone them quickly and have them run??????
I would go back in time and bring them back but I need a few more dohickys and watchamacallits to finish my "Wayback Machine"........
Starsailing, I like that idea. I've got a few dohickys in the shop, but no watchamacallits. Eisenhower was the last Republican president. Everyone that followed, Reagan, Nixon and the Bushes, were corporate puppets waving the republican banner. Eisenhower would be too liberal for today's "republicans."
Robert - don't you every get tired of posting foolishness? President Obama is a natural born citizen - his mother was a citizen and he was born here. Every time you post something like you did you show you have no understanding about what you are posting. The only lie here is your post!
Eisenhower warned the nation about today's republicons......No way would republicons accept Eisenhower or even Reagan in their party today.........
Republicons...the party of the greedy rich 1% and....some middleclass duped into thinking they have the same self interests of the 1% who control them.......(Fox newsers)
Rand Paul 2016.
Hillary will be too old then. Besides, still a lot of explaining to do over Benghazi-gate.
Weird. I read that headline and the theme song from the old 60's TV show "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" suddenly popped into my head.
Pro...ya sure....we are still waiting for Bush to explain all the deaths under his regime same category.....Maybe you care to tell everyone how many died..and why and how.....or do we have to remind you for the hundreth time.......?
Is one still eligible to be the president when they cannot spell the word ineligible - or president?
Hi Cliff -
I think what you meant to write was 'shut the @!$%# up', '@!$%#'; 'dumb ass', '@!$%# off'. There. All fixed. And you're welcome.
Unless we get a Christie/Huntsman or Huntsman/Christie (preferably the latter, probably the former) ticket, there is zero reason to lend any credibility to the Republican Party and its endeavor to win back the White House.
And given said party's of-late proclivity to self destruct, to shun credible candidates, to cater to its most extremist fringe, and to reward ignorance and obtuseness over reason and open-mindedness, I'd say, fat chance.
Ms Piggy, I don't know for whom I would cast my vote then. The choice would be between a reactionary Republican, and a Democrat who voted for the the war in Iraq (I mean wtc was she thinking?).
I do like Rubio's take on new ideas, “We don’t need a new idea, the idea is America, and it still works,”. You have to love such a wholehearted embrace of ignorance.
Sort of reminds you of the words of the lead bandit in "Treasure of Sierra Madre". "Ideas? We don't need no stinking ideas!".
There must have been a sign at the CPAC conference, "Please check head at the door before entering.".
They are both great teabagging attention whores, but the Poodle Top will probably win, since he is better at the red meat rhetoric that his hillbilly audience craves.
I see the libbie trolls are STILL blaming Bush for obama's incompetence and unchecked spending! No one can ruin a country better than a guy who intentionally gives it away and our Blunderer-in-Chief is doing just that!
And the many low information voters that Barry has created think that it is Christmas Day every time the first of every month rolls around: "free stuff and I don't have to work, woohoo!"
Rand/Rubio 2016 and forward!
Bill Thomas. I am from Florida and know Rubio, I voted against him every chance I had to vote against him. People voted him in, but are now VERY sorry that they voted for him. I can tell you from first hand experience with Rubio that he is a Liar and a thief. Rubio is now being criminally investigated, and I wouldnt doubt that he will be charged before the 2014 elections. If you do not believe me, GOOGLE rubio scandals. You will get a minimum of ten pages of things that he is being investigated for. Rand Paul, well he is just a pissant in a hill from Kentucky. He is worse that Ron Paul. I sure hope that the Republicans nominate one of these CLOWNS, although it is Palins turn.
The GOP (Grumpy Old People) does not like to win National Elections. Rubio or Rand will surely put the Presidency into the hands of the Democrats for another four years. And it is a matter of another Congressional Election or two before the House is taken over by the Democrats. The GOP (Greatness Once Prospered) still has not learned their lesson. Too bad they did not pay attention to Gov. Christie, lessons on how to play nice...compromise...give credit when it is due. The problem is that Gov. Christie has to realize that getting rid of police officers is not the solution to cutting crime rates (Camden, NJ - the worst crime & proverty rate in the nation) nor is getting rid of teachers the solution to educating the future of our country; yes, the children are the future of this county!! Wake up, folks!!
cliff-1955574, I suggest you get some help for that nasty temper.
And one more thing people...let's get the facts straight. Obama is not the fault for our deficit being so high. It was GWB who got into office in 2001, immediately slashing taxes (more beneficial to the rich) then spending money for a useless war (2002) over make-believe WMD. How much did this extra spending with less revenue coming in cost the taxpayers? Nearly $2Trillion and the lives of many military & civilian people. The smart solution would have been to cancel those tax credits; not going to war would have been smart too. Closing tax loopholes would have been helpful in keeping the deficit down. Then we had the Financial Crisis caused by greedy executives of the large financial banks...approving loans for people who never should have had them in the first place. In comes TARP (signed by GWB October, 2008). It was also the last quarter of 2008 when the unemployment level topped off at 10.2%.
A mess can be created in second, but it takes much longer to clean up a mess. GWB had eight years to create the mess. It was going to take more than 8 years to clean it up.
In comes Obama. I am sure he was overcome by the real mess he saw the moment he stepped foot in the White House. Reminded me of the CEO that took over Lucent Technologies after they fell apart. He had no idea what he was getting into; at least, he thought he did. Unfortunately Obama only had 2 years with a Democratic House. Got a few intelligent things passed...health care was very important...though not the solution I would have choosen. The Republicans did not like the success Obama was having in first term so they set out to do one thing...see that he was not elected a 2nd term! Sorry, but I thought elected officials were elected to work for the voters? They sat on their fat azzes doing absolutely nothing...even when Obama handed them their own solutions. They just did not want him to have any success on their dime. Too bad, that did not work out for Boner...I mean...Boehner!
In 2011 Romney got his wish...47% of the votes. Love how that came back to bite him in the azz!!!
BillThomas...how much money did you lose in the stock market in 2002 and 2008? That was not Obama's fault, he was not President. Just ask the people who retired...the mechanic, the machine handler, grocery store manager, small business owner, non-union private school teacher; then go talk to the waiters & waitresses, school bus drivers, gas attendents, store clerks, meat butchers, car wash attendents, dry cleaner, and retail workers...to name a few. Ask them what they are living on now that they cannot get jobs in their old age or illness? Go talk to the people with illnesses they were born with or contracted due to no fault of their own...oh wait, I am one of those people. I have Cystic Fibrosis...defying the odds at 40 years old. Paid my own tuition for 3 college degrees...so much for a career when all your money goes to health care so pharmaceutical company execs can live high on the hog. I probably would be dead if I did not have the earning power to pay these bills. Yep, $275k in 10 years. I could have bought a house, put money away for retirement. I did not file bankruptcy because I did not want to ruin my credit...for obtaining a decent job. My will to live is at the mercy of corporate greed...damned if I do and damned if I don't!!
Obama was not my answer in 2008...I wanted Hillary! Guess what...? I don't give up...Hillary 2016!!!
Neither Rand Paul or Marco Rubio, will ever be elected as President of the United States. They both are too hard right, and the Nations doesn't want that stance.
Was Rubio even born in the USA? It seems to me that I heard he was born in Kenya. Has anyone seen his birth certificate? Someone should call Trump.
Let's get this straight right now, Rubio DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE PRESIDENT! His Parents were not American Citizens at the time of his birth. That disqualifies him completely for the Office of President and Vice President of the USA! Go Rand Paul and he can make Rubio a Cabinet Member.
Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971). Rubio was born in Miami, Florida,[5] the second son and third child of Mario Rubio and Oria Garcia. His parents were Cubans who had immigrated to the United States in 1956 and were naturalized as U.S. citizens in 1975.
Of these two I would support Rand Paul over Rubio, and I live in Florida.
Fact is either of them would be 1000 times better than what we have now.
Someone who believes in the Constitution as President.... I think I just got the Chris Wallace thrill up my leg....
PAUL 2016
Jockey for '16 spotlight !
Rand, 13 hour outhouse attack ???
Rubio, crazy H2O attack ???
Looks like Lipton is dumping its tea to get the nuts out, smart move I would say !!!
These two Clowns are a insult to Monkeys, old McCain words !!!
The first two members of the clown car have jumped out...
OK, FOLKS - COME ONE, COME ALL TO THE GREATEST CLOWN EXHIBITION ON THE PLANET...
WHERE IDIOCY IS PORTRAYED AS INTELLIGENCE FOR YOUR AMUSEMENT...
now all we need is to have a team of Frothy and Failin' announce as a TAG TEAM...
Rand Paul and Marco Rubio huh? Like judging a beauty contest between an Aardvark and a Platypus. Gwaddamn! Most republicans are ugly sons-ah-bitches, but surely they can beat this! Too, between 'em, they ain't got enough sense to equal one decent halfwit. Course, intelligence in the republican party is as rare as a Utah virgin living in a $2.00 whorehouse.
Pretty funny how since the moment this article hit the only thing liberals can do is demean and name call.
It's the ONLY way they can win elections, use the willing sheep media to cast negative attention on your opponent.
So very telling.... and so very expected...
The Democrats continuously say that they are for the Middle Class and Lower Income people, while ridiculing the Republicans for "being for the 1%". It's totally a bunch of BS. So many of the Liberal/Progressive policies that are being pushed are some of the worst policies for those Middle Class and Lower Income people. Just to list a few...Raising the minimum wage, Gun Control, and ACA, just to name a few.
Raising the Minimum Wage for instance causes a huge jump in unemployment. Raising the Minimum Wage, while resulting in a boost in the immediate income for those individuals who are only making the minimum wage, however, it will also result in a gradual increase of unemployment and also an increase in the people who are working part-time jobs instead of full-time. The costs for that business to operate will increase, which will not stay with the business, it will be pushed down the line onto both the consumers and onto the lowest ranking employees. So what happens when the minimum wage goes up, the employees really aren't making any more money because they will either be losing their jobs or will be losing hours (If you just lose 10 hours from your 40 hour work week after the raise, you will still be making basically the same amount as if the minimum wage wasn't increase...7.25*40 = 290, 10*30=300) and also it will result in an increase in the cost of living, so their money won't be able to buy as much as it does now. This is because as costs increase, for businesses to make profits, they have to increase prices, thus putting the pressure on the consumer.
Gun Control. Some of the biggest cities, such as Detroit and Chicago have some of the highest concentrations of Low Income families, and taking guns away from those law-abiding families who need them the most will increase the danger that their families are in. Just look at history to see what Gun Control can do. The KKK used Gun Control in legislation in Democratic southern states in the late 1800s through the 1900s to keep the newly freed black communities from having guns, with which they could defend themselves with.
The ACA has been proven to increase taxes on all middle income, low income and high income families. The taxes on the hospitals and on businesses who won't buy the insurance for their businesses (because the ACA actually makes it cheaper to just pay the fine and be done with it than actually buy the insurance) and even if they have to buy the insurance for everyone, it will be passed on once again to the employees and the consumers. Health insurance premiums and the price for health care will continue to rise and will be an additional burden on all taxpayers (not just the wealthy).
But please, don't take my word for it, look it up yourselves....
Rubio is always on the verge of breaking out in a huge case of flop sweat. I don't think he is totally comfortable with all of this yet.
Recent Hillary bumper sticker spotted:
Jeb Bush?
Good luck with that, you usually have to give it to them.
Let's see, should I vote for Laurel or Hardy?
and like their counterparts who ran with them, they said jobs, jobs, and more jobs and how many jobs have they created NONE.
Larry.......and so once more....republicon platform.......keep draining profits out of America and hiding them in offshore accounts, keep removing jobs out of America which kills the economy and the middle class, keep holding to their pledge to vote against and obstruct any bill that would help America recover from the economy crash, keep putting the needs $$$$$ of the greedy rich over the needs of America.........Jobs, jobs, jobs,,,,yes they are doing a job on the American workers.
Middle class people and poor duped into voting against their own self interests and actually vote for the insane two above republicons.......as if they live like the greedy rich 1%.......2012 elections repeat....
This has to be a Saturday Night live comedy skit test posting!!!
Star: Republicans claimed the reasoning for opposing the bill that eliminated the ability to deduct moving operations over seas and giving new deductions for bringing jobs back was because it didn't do enough. Rolls eyes. Who would believe such nonsense? Oh right, the tea party crowd.
Larry
Why shouldn't the expense of closing a factory not be a valid deduction?
If Obama can reduce his tax burden by "giving" his children 40,000 dollars then why can't others take legitimate steps to reduce their tax burden?.
Want to stop off shoring? Reduce the corporate tax rate to zero, rein in the unions and Obama's ridiculous NLRB and watch the businesses flock to America.
So your party will push Hillary(the liar) again. So what if she was Sec of State...she was Obamas puppet. So now she is for Gay marriages. She is changing her opinion only to get lesbian votes........perhaps she really has been hiding in a closet for years. Maybe that is why Billary was such a roamer!!! she really is a two-faced person. Will lie to save her own a___.
Simple: Because our competitors are smart enough not to do the same. China protects it's industries and penalizes imports, manipulates their currency and forces companies that want to build factories there to partner with Chinese partners and share technology. China's only concern isn't immediate corporate profit they only care about what's best for their country. Is that unrealistic? To compete we need to have a government that protects our industry as they do not one that protects corporate profits no matter where it comes from. It's time Republicans remember they're Americans first and businessmen second. And no I don't accept that corporations have to be rewarded to be good Americans. It comes naturally to Democrats.
Larry.......and so once more....republicon platform.......keep draining profits out of America and hiding them in offshore accounts, keep removing jobs out of America which kills the economy and the middle class, keep holding to their pledge to vote against and obstruct any bill that would help America recover from the economy crash, keep putting the needs $$$$$ of the greedy rich over the needs of America.........Jobs, jobs, jobs,,,,yes they are doing a job on the American workers.
Middle class people and poor duped into voting against their own self interests and actually vote for the insane two above republicons.......as if they live like the greedy rich 1%.......2012 elections repeat....
This has to be a Saturday Night live comedy skit test posting!!!
Too much economic fail in one post...where to start? What are you supposed to say to something like this where almost everything is wrong? The only thing you are right about is that the Republican's policies aren't super great for job creation but neither are the democrats. We ned the free market, not more government programs, subsidies, taxes, regulations, laws, etc.
[continued from satanick] Cut all subsidies for Oil, Pharm, Farm ... no more bailouts, rein in Wall Street, health care for all (we are a first world country right?)... oh wait... I mean we need to double our military, hide money off shore, reduce taxes on corporations so they can cut more jobs and make MORE profits for the 1%, tax the poor, cut food stamps, cut unemployment but keep Congress-peoples salaries untouched... wait what were we talking about?
If this is the best the have they are doomed!
Hilary 2016!
I kinda like Rand. Not as the President, but I could deal with him as the senior Senator from Kentucky.
Anybody but Mitch!
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
And over. And oovveerr. And ooovvvveerrr. And oooovvvveeeeerrrrrrrr....
Republicans might just be wiser to try and convince Americans that Santa Claus is real after all. At least people still like Santa. Come to think of it, leave Santa alone. Everything Republicans touch turns to @!$%#.
Simple....oh great....give corporations more tax breaks the answer...uh huh....DOH! 1 out of 4 profitable corporation pay NO taxes whatsoever and get money back from the government.
Why shouldn't the expense of shutting down American factories in America be a valid deduction for companies????? You must be kidding.....? Simple simply.....THEY ARE KILLING AMERICAN JOBS< AMERICAN ECONOMY<< DESTROYING FAMILIES< PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS< AND THE GREEDY RICH ARE SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF THE COUNTRY BY USING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES WHILE GIVING NOTHING BACK.
Republicons care about jobs, jobs, jobs.....anyplace overseas...but not in America!
Ahhhh...Pssst satan...you have Larry and me mixed up there....You and the 1% want FREE everything from America...no taxes no government to protect people from the greedy 1% polluting and destroying everything in site to make a buck, you want subsidies for the rich and to have the middle class pay for them......etc etc........what a joke....1% welfare for the rich at everyone else's cost!
I want low taxes for everyone, no subsidies for anyone and I believe that some government regulation of the environment is necessary.
Why shouldn't the expense of shutting down American factories in America be a valid deduction for companies????? You must be kidding.....? Simple simply.....THEY ARE KILLING AMERICAN JOBS< AMERICAN ECONOMY<< DESTROYING FAMILIES< PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS< AND THE GREEDY RICH ARE SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF THE COUNTRY BY USING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES WHILE GIVING NOTHING BACK.
Why do corporations ship jobs overseas? Our workers in manufacturing are among the most productive in the world. Corporations leave because the government makes it too expensive for them to operate here profitably. Regulations and taxes drive up the cost of business. Eventually they get to a point where it is more profitable for them to relocate elsewhere. Blame the government.
Simple....wants less government........Translation....the greedy rich want to privatize everything to get more profits as if destroyingthe economy didn't get them enough money they put offshore.All that money people put into Social security is driving them crazy....they want it....all the money the Post Office was processing all these years is driving people like simple crazy...they want it so they created the plan and put it in place to destroy the Post office....giving privateers a shot at the money with horsecrap service or none at all......Yeah....we understand the need for you to have less government.....like opening a bank vault and setting up a sign that says free ....only for the rich!
starsailing-- IMO you have had some great posts on this thread. Maybe none more correct than the one above. Thanks.
Let's not forget, the failure of the United States Postal Service is on the backs of the Republicans who voted to force them to pay future pensions and health care benefits in just a 10 year span of time. Was this a joke of theirs or what? Kind of reminds me how Romney and Bain Capital drain companies, put them into bankruptcy while pocketing the money as over inflated fees for doing nonsense work. Everyone got screwed...the creditors, the employees and the communities that relied on them.
Laurel or Hardy? NAH - more like Rocky or BULLwinkle. Run Failin' and Frothy and get a choice of Boris or Natasha
Another Hillary campaign bumper sticker spotted:
All 12 of them.
They aren't afraid of individual liberty,”
Does that include a woman's right to choice for her own body?
Yeah, didn't think so.
Put these idiots in and you'll be lucky to show anything above the ankle. The Republican Party: Not a woman's BFF, that's for sure.
Yes, all 12 belonging to skin heads and motorcycle gangs.
They like to scream about the trillion dollar deficit Obama created in 2009 apparently not smart enough to know the 2009 budget was passed by Bush in 2008 and that the CBO declared deficits would exceed 1 trillion at least through 2011 regardless of who was elected. They listed the cause as the loss of 100's of billions in tax revenues due to the meltdown, continuing war costs, debt servicing and the addition of millions onto unemployment, welfare, food stamps and Medicaid roles who lost their jobs the last half of 2008 and early 2009. Imagine Obama having such an impact before he was even elected. Notice date of article. 13 days before Obama took office.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/07/news/economy/cbo_2009_budget_outlook/
Where have you been for the past 4 years? NEWS FLASH! It's 2013 now. The deficit has risen to almost 17 trillion dollars now. Okay so cut the trillon dollars you dont think he is responible for. How would you explain the remaining 8 he IS responsible for. Bringing 8 trillon to (I'll round it down for you) 16. Which is a 150% increase if you didnt realize. No president is the history of the US has never done that much damage.
Not good at math are you. That 1.2 trillion brings Bush's total from 5.7 trillion to 12.1 or an average of 800 billion a year despite the fact he started with a 450 billion surplus and 4.2% unemployment. Obama started with a 7.9% unemployment rate, millions in foreclosure, 700,000 a month losing jobs and our financial system that would have collapsed. Are you people really that stupid? After the meltdown tax revenues were down 500 billion a year with 10 million more people eligible for food stamps, unemployment, welfare and Medicaid. I can't believe how dense you people are. At least most voters aren't.
Does that include a woman's right to choice for her own body?
Yeah, didn't think so.
Yes, at least if you are a libertarian! I think women have the right to do as they please with their body and I am a fiscal conservative. Don't paint all fiscal conservatives with the social conservative brush. I am very socially liberal. I believe people have the right to choose what they can put in their bodies (meaning drugs) and should be allowed to sell their bodies if they so please. Do you believe in social liberty or are you just another Democrat shill? If women have the right to choose what to do with their own body then they should be allowed to be prostitutes, use drugs, get abortions, etc. Does the government have the right to tell anyone what they should/shouldn't do with their body?
No party has ever done as much damage as the Republican party has to America since our declaration to the British of America's independence in 1776. No party like the Republican Tea Party has caused such deep scorn and indignation with the other people of the world, a planet we all share equally. This is not America's world, nor does it belong to any country. The planet is the dominion of We, The People. Just as it is here in America, so it is with the world, even if the world doesn't know it yet. Watch the meek kick some more ass in 2014 and 2016 and beyond, despite the best gerrymandering the Republicans can muster. You'll have to find a new name for your political party when you all manage to get your heads pulled out of your asses. Might I be the first to suggest the @!$%#head Party? That one ought to be good for at least a century if not more considering what a train wreck the Republican party has purposefully engineered over the past 1/3 of a century already. Enough is enough. Don't GOP, just GO.
hey young and stupid - WHO hid the military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan OFF THE BUDGET as a TIME BOMB for the following incoming administration? CAN YOU SAY DA SHRUB? I KNEW YOU COULD. now go crawl back under your rock - it MISSES YOU
Rick - "No party has ever done as much damage as the Republican party has to America since our declaration to the British of America's independence in 1776."
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The Republicans you are speaking of, are the party that were formed in 1854 in order to Abolish slavery, which they did when one of their own became president in 1860. It was the Republicans who tried to impeach the Democratic President, Andrew Johnson, after he vetoed the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
The Vietnam War, one of the most controlversial wars in American history, started in 1954, but the US didn't get really involved in it until President Kennedy in 1961 (he was a Democrat), we pulled out of Vietnam under a Republican President in 1975. It was President Gerald Ford who got us out of Vietnam.
Both the 15th and 19th Ammendments to the Constitution were passed by Republican congress, Republicans controlled the House of Representatives and the Senate.
It was a Democrat, FDR, who allowed all Japanese Americans to be rounded up and held in internment camps simply because of their Japanese heritage. That was later rescinded by a Republican, President Gerald Ford.
While Iraq may be seen as a rather controversial war, it still resulted in the US helping the Iraq people overthrow a dictator and become a democracy, giving those people a chance to be free.
So from what I see, looking back through US history, both parties have done some good and some bad. The Republican party has done quite a bit to increase freedom for all peoples, while the Democrats are most notably known for installing all the entitlement programs, such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
So saying that the Republican party has done more damage to America than any other party in the history of the US really means that you are either extremely uneducated or you are racist, sexist and probably enjoy the government controlling every single aspect of your life...
stack892-----
The republican party of the 1850's and 1860's is dead. The republican party, since the 1960's has been the political party of racism and segregation. It was formed as a home for all the racist and segregationist "Dixiecrats" who left the democratic party in droves after Truman desegregated the American military and Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act.
The Vietnam situation had American involvement while the French were fighting the Vietnamese Nationalists. We were involved way before Kennedy with "military advisers". Both Kennedy and Johnson expanded our involvement and Nixon, after lying about ending the war, then extended it into Laos and Cambodia before ending the war by essentially turning tail. Something that should have been done long before.
Again! The republican party of the last half of the 19th century in no way resembles today's republikan party. Not even close. The republicans responsible for the 15th and 19th amendments are long dead, both physically and intellectually.
It was FDR, easily one of the greatest Presidents we have ever had, who lead us through the 2nd World War and helped destroy the scourge of Hitlerian Nazism in Europe. His internment of the Japanese Americans was a mistake but understandable at the time. Nowhere near the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians that we "liberated" during a war based on lies and treasonous deceit. There is no democracy in Iraq, bringing democracy to Iraq meant " there...now you're free to give us your oil". Whether in Chile or Central America or Kuwait or Iraq we really don't give a @!$%# about democracy. It's capitalism that counts!
You're right both parties have done good and bad. But the republikan party of today, of right now, is doing some serious damage to our country and our relationship between government and its citizens. If Social Security and Medicare are entitlements then I'm all for them. They have kept millions of our senior citizens out of penury or poverty. They represent the finest in our government. The republikans, taken over by the Ayn Rand, radical fascist right will not be satisfied until they have taken this country back to the 19th century. A disastrous future for America.
Wow, another Hillary bumper sticker spotted:
If you don't know who is Dr. Abedin, then look her up.
I just can't decide!... So my vote (selfishly) is that as soon as the Hadron Collider is back on line we use it to smash them together at near the speed of light and see if anything more promising is cast off in the process...
Maybe the GOP can make something out of an actual God particle as a candidate.
My real prediction is that they'll both be history by 2016.
My prediction is that they will both go back and forth being front runners until Christie gets in the race and eliminates them.
Best post of the day!
the only thing Christie will win is an eating contest. My question is both of them were on the same ticket who would be first?
IMHO, They'll NEVER let Christie in, he has broken the first rule of "The Party", which is "never break lockstep with The Party".
Sheeesh, Hillary bumper stickers all over the place:
Neither one of these clowns has the slightest clue on how to lead this country. Both are way, way out of their element. Please, the last Republican circus was too much to bear. This one is shaping up to be as bad or worse. Really sucks to be a righty these days.
Wow...three stupid comments in a row. Are you having a conversation with yourself?
This is the left's vision of "how to run a country":
http://www.sba-list.org/suzy-b-blog/kermit-gosnell-trial-abortion-house-horrors
Of course, we suffer under a fool who thinks he's already a dictator
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/19/186309/obama-turning-to-executive-power.html
who doesn't understand what his position entails
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/19/miller-wheres-concern-7-marines-die-and-obama-twee/
as he prepares to embarrass our nation on the national stage once again
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/82ea4e24-8fed-11e2-9239-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2O2715S1r
talk about a clown without a clue. Why does't any of the drones here on FR ever point out the flaws of Obama? Of course, answering my, that would be sacrilege among the cultists.
Looks Like Toni set a record....Careful Simple, they [idiot liberals] may call you a name and consider it an 'ass handing'. It's how they measure success on NBC/FR
Ceasar.........beware the ides of March.........Rubio and Rand.....
Did someone fart in the room? Oh wait, it's Little Ceaser and right on time. Whatsa matta little buddy, can't find a job? Didn't think so. Now run along and play with the other rwnj nitwits.
Simple: With the nonsense of your post I think you'd fit right in with a red nose, floppy ears and size 18 shoes. You spend half your post outlining crimes by an illegal doctor for some reason only you understand. Quite simply you're obviously nuts. Have a nice day.
I was laughing so hard I Ted Nugent my underwear.................................
Ha!!! +1
I really think Palin will run....just so she can publicize her Playboy photo shoot for $$$$$$. Just a matter of time.....Mama griz loves the $$$$$$$
Looks like the dumbf ucks who admit to being teabaggers are out in force DENYING "everything". Stupid is as stupid DOES...
Put a fork up it:
***HYPOCRITE LIBERAL ALERT***
Don't worry, I reported it.
don't worry - you can't DO anything about it except WHINE - you want some cheese with that WHINE?
not that either will stand a chance of making to 2016 it is to early to start this BS ---- So what did anyone get done on a budget / reducing the debt today? Focus people it should be headline new daily just like the death totals for the day during the war.
Rubio is the cutest but he is losing his hair fast. Ran has the best curley hair and it will last.
Thanks, Frank, my salad had not been quite digested when your comment caused a slight regurgitation!
His hair looks like it came from the genital area.
“They want leaders that won't feed them a line of crap or sell them short."
In other words - they no longer want Newt, McConnell, or any of the other entrenched rethuglicans that have dominated that party for the last twenty years. Good luck with that! Guys like Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor are not going to be easily dislodged. They are trying to reform their image, but will not reform their failed policies. It is pretty easy to fool hillbillies that think Obama is a Socialist/Marxist/Communist, so it might work toward the dumber end of the spectrum.
c'mon Tony - pubic hair is SHORT and usually DARK ... besides, dick heads don't have hair on them - his is a RUG
Put a fork up it:
***HYPOCRITE LIBERAL ALERT***
Don't worry, I reported it.
Don't worry, I reported you for reposting a reported post multiple times! LOL
ah - give him a BREAK - he can't help it for being mentally handicapped...
My most fervent wish is the Tea Party dominates the primaries and select a Palin/Bachmann ticket. I hope, I hope. So does every other Democrat. It's obvious, the nuttier the better, as far as the Tea Party is concerned.
JC, keep drinking the coolaid while it's still free. The ride is coming to an end, then it's time to get a job!
Stop and think about it, It can't get any worse than what we have in the white house now. Can it? I mean doesn't really matter now does it?
Wisconsin would gladly offer up Walker if either Palin or Bachmann should come to blows over top cat. Hopefully Walker won't survive past 2014 elections.
yeah, then he can do what he did in WI and fill his inner circle with felons, then claim he had no idea they were committing said felonies-----which makes him either a pathological liar, or patently stupid
amused is amusing. He automatically thinks anyone not enthralled with this 'new' generation of 1%er thieves is unemployed.
It is almost too easy to fool the uninformed.
not so sure 'bout that star - I think it's more of a case of cranial-anal orifice insertion. They've smelled sh it for so long, they think it's NORMAL...
Put a fork up it:
***HYPOCRITE LIBERAL ALERT***
Don't worry, I reported it.
LOL @ Star & fork
indeed! people like that can't think outside of their little bubble. any thought or opinion not expressly approved by the Tea Party agenda is strictly verboten
nah - he thinks that by supposedly "reporting" it that the "report" will make a difference - the categories of "reporting" are to handle "inflammatory" (that means flaming a PERSON - a VINER - PERSONALLY) - or - ADVERTISING. The "other 2" are - "no value" which is a judgment call (6 black marks and you supposedly get "collapsed") and "ignore" means that you don't have to see comments posted by the sonuvaBIATCH.
I have to admit to comparing teabaggers to cowpies freshly planted n the field - not composted, not too useful as FERTILIZER YET
Rubio/Rand 2016!
Doesn't take much to earn your vote, does it "kumar". My guess is that, if they tossed out a little bit of the regurgitated, rotten teabagger red meat, you'd be screaming for Tweedle-dum/Tweedle-dee in 2016.
After Obama, Tweedle-dum/Tweedle-dee would be a MAJOR improvement. Rubio/Rand would be a gift from God!
Gift from God??? LOL. It is funny how many wingnuts are still butt hurt from the 2012 whooping. NOBAMA. Wow, how clever is that? The thieving party is so far behind the times, they'll be campaigning like that in 2016, when it will not be possible to rally the troops with the anti-Obama straw man.
dayum - you think the mythical supreme entity actually CARES about reichwingnutreligionazi politics, EH?
first clue - see MYTHICAL and it all goes downhill from there - just like sh it in a SEWER
So, "kumar"...is this the same "god" that your kind were referring to when BushII was appointed? Remember the "It's so nice to have God back in the White House" crap your kind kept barfing? We've seen your "god", "kumar"...and your "god" sucks.
Oh - and you have the order all wrong. It should be Rand/Rubio....Rand hasn't played #2 since Senator Vitter's last diaper party.
My God sucks???
You worship a god that murders babies, supports gay marriage, doesn't defend the weak (Clinton said his biggest regret was not stopping the Rwanda genocide, where more than 1 million were murdered), supports debauchery (legalization of pot), and the list goes on and on! I think I'll stick with my God - JESUS!
Very revealing, "kumar". Apparently you wipe your bum with the Ten Commandments using the same hand you use to wipe it with the Constitution. Jehovah is the Latin name of the Christian God. According to the myth, Jesus was Jehovah's only begotten son. It clearly states in the Ten Commandments given to Moses by Jehovah that "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me." You clearly wish to worship Jehovah's son instead of Jehovah...and I'm not surprised that you are incapable of getting past even the first Commandment. Your entire post about who I worship would be a perfect example of bearing false witness, but I'll cut you some slack. You obviously didn't read far enough to know that you aren't supposed to do that.
Thank you for exposing yourself as a brainwashed minion. Now we know that Rand Paul and Marco Rubio get the Antichrist vote.
Go back and read the whole Bible, including the New Testament. We have a Trinity God - The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Don't make comments if you do not understand...it makes you appear to be a buffoon!
Well, "kumar", just because your sect interprets the myth one way, does not make true. Far more brilliant and free-thinking people than you believe otherwise.
It's even more telling that, rather than address your blatant bearing of false witness, you attempt to characterize me as a buffoon - and then step right up and order me to stop making comments.
Call me what ever shallow little names you want, it will never change the fact that you believe in Jesus Christ and you are a filthy liar (post #9.6) - and that, poor "kumar" sends you to a very, very bad place in the after life.
My sect??? Read the Bible before you make comments. I stand by my comments - you are a bufoon!
Matthew Chapter 28:18 And Jesus came to them and said, 'All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.'
Damn , 2016 is going to be a walk in the park for Hillary.... You go girl !!
Anyone but Hillarity - craven ambition is not a qualification and the Benghazi debacle will disqualify her from any elected office.
What Debacle?
The fact that she didn't suggest bombing Iran (an unrelated Middle Eastern country) because members of a fringe group in the Middle East killed Americans
Rubio will never pass the Tea Party purity test. After all, he's one of "them". Can't have another "them" in the White House.
Seriously? Hillary in 2016? Lets go back to a time rife with corruption, thievery, renting out the Lincoln bedroom, using government property to raise campaign financing, bombing an aspirin factory on the night of his pending impeachment hearing, killing a guy (Ricky Ray Rector, Google it) as Arkansas in '92 by lethal injection, etc. Bill was one of the most over-rated, do-nothing presidents in the past 100 years. Of course, some of you will tell me all about his accomplishments, B.S....right place, right time. Worse than Nixon.
And you really want to go back to that Dog and Pony show known as Bill and Hillary? SERIOUSLY!
Google Webster Hubbell, Vince Foster, Dick Morris, Janet Reno, I could go on and on.....
This is hysterical. Not only is "mezzz" a lying conspiracy freak, but we are expected to believe a post from someone who can't even figure out how to reply to the right comment!! My guess is that "mezzz" saw the name Hilary Clinton, went into a slobbering, cross-eyed fit, started slapping the keyboard wildly and commented wherever it landed.
When you are done pooping all over yourself, "mezzz", why don't you actually try to comment to JCC@FL's accurate assertion that your klan will never accept Rubio - even if he stayed beneath the white hood.
Amazing what freaks come out of the wood work when you mention Paul and Rubio.
LOL, sorry, first time posting on here in a long time, hit the wrong reply button. I am not a conspiracy freak...I dont beleive in the "Vast right wing conspiracy" theory like Bill and Hillary do. As a matter of fact, I am not really a fan of Rubio or Paul either.
You could just call me a concerned citizen. I could have used your handle as an appropriate way to reflect the way I feel about politics in the past, hell, my whole life! I do read ALOT, both pro and con and then form my own opinion. I just finished reading Clintons biography last week, and then read another called No One Left to Lie Too on a plane yesterday..
Do you even read? Or can you only sling insults like a child? Educate yourself people, read both sides..
Politics in this country, especially on a National level, are broken. The way we govern is broken. I view them all the same, Republicans and Democrats, corrupt, self serving and out of touch.
Believe what you want as the country keeps going down that rabbit hole. Another 50 years like the last 50, we will not have a country left.
Well, "mezzz"...Judging from post #11.1, I'll stick to reality and the democratically elected President of the United States of America. People of your persuasion are, in my opinion, no better than those who accused Bush of engineering 9/11. It's nice that you have a hobby, but perhaps, you should keep it to yourself.
I know, I know...conspiracy theorists are always so much smarter and better educated than those of us who "never read" - so there is no point in arguing with you (and, of course, conspiracy thoerists are NEVER conspiracy theorists...). My recommendation would be for you to put down or turn off what ever crap you are using to fuel your paranoia and go feed some ducks.
Tell yah what meez - you find some way to have the RETHUGs throw out their "leadership" (you know - the ones who are worthless reichwingnutreligionazis AT THE CORE) and take a stance of MODERATION and they MIGHT (not "will" - MIGHT) get a bunch of disillusioned morally liberal, fiscally conservative people back into their "PARTY". Right NOW it's an exclusive club heavily populated by TEANUTTBAGGERS and MOST THINKING Americans want no part of the NUTS
Put a fork up it:
***HYPOCRITE LIBERAL ALERT***
Don't worry, I reported it.
Are you sure that your middle name isn't FOO? as in FEE FIE FOO FUM? Just another teabagger cretin, eh?
"kcbones"...You do realize that you are stalking Put A Fork In It, right? You were already a creepy, worthless liar before and now you wish to terrorize someone?
You epitomize what the "tea" party is all about. When lies fail, resort to terrorism. Put A Fork In It is practicing freedom of speech and you harassing terrorism only proves how much you and your fellow klans-folk despise everything the the United States is all about.
Thank you for repeatedly demonstrating that you are nothing more than a terrorist in a terrorist organization.
I like them both . Either one would do a lot better job than what we have in there right now.
whow that is setting the bar high -- Hah!
Bama- I agree 100%. The current administration is so clueless, they cannot even remember what their lie of the day is. They have no plan whatsoever to improve the economy and obviously lack the foresight of even the near future as far as economics go as proven by President Obama and his signing into law the Sequestration and publicly announcing that he would veto any bills designed to stop the sequestration...unbelievably lacking in economic sense.
LOL
Wow, who needs the comedic styling of Sarah Palin when we've got our own right here on the boards!
Alaska Girl- Typical intolerant liberal who does not think anyone else should have opinion without thinking it outrageous. Pathetic.
I don't think it's outrageous, and I've done nothing to stop you from posting your opinions. My opinion stands, and please continue, we all need a good laugh! I am in no way intolerable, but you gotta admit that these two "front runners" are a piss poor choice for the party. Come on, you can admit it.
@Alaska, ---And what we've got running things now is a true gift in your twisted vision of a future for this country, and that's my opinion--- and it stands. Continue to talk about their hair???? Really capable and intellectual discussion. Sand gets pounded again.
Are you on drugs? "Continue to talk about their hair????" Where in my comments to this article did I mention their hair?
"Sand gets pounded again". LOL
Please, PLEASE "rob peters"....PLEASE keep announcing to the world who you support and why. Not only will it keep AlaskaGirl and I laughing hysterically at you, but it does wonders for the Democratic Party
It's always nice to know where the brainwashed minion vote is going...
Rob Peters: Calling out a liar isn't intolerant. When you state Obama vowed to veto any bill that would block sequestration you're lying. Do you really think any one on here is that stupid? Obama made numerous offers and republicans countered by refusing any cuts to the military or any new revenue. Despite the thousands of abusive tax subsidies and shelters Republicans couldn't find one they were willing to cut. The party of no. Obama offered cuts and revenue, a balanced approach. There's no way to spin it other than Republican obstructionism.
I am so ready for the next presidential election! Won't it be a friggin blast, Shocked, when the days leading up to election day have these same jack offs screaming that their candidate's got the lock and is going to win, just as they did with Romney? Those were some priceless days! Talk about not being able to read a damn poll!
Damn straight, Larry! Opinions ARE facts to Republicans.
Larry...President Obama publicly announced this. You can Google this and there is plenty of footage of President Obama announcing this. You need to know your facts. Unbelievable.
Link it. As most of us read daily how Republicans refused Obama's compromises because they included revenue increases he had to make them for Republicans to reject them didn't he. When you find your link you'll find his promise to veto was any offer that didn't include revenue increases. Quit listening to Limbaugh, he's smart but lies to promote his agenda. Heres proof.
http://www.ksdk.com/rss/article/366342/3/Obama-blames-Republicans-for-sequester
November 20, 2011. Find it yourself. You obviously need to educate yourself.
Sorry, never, ever listen to Rush Limbaugh. Way to discredit yourself again by 'assuming.'
I keep thinking, AlaskaGirl - if this is the best they have for 2016, 2014 is going to be a riot!!
Let us not, however, underestimate the power of stupid hate. Sarah Palin actually made it to VP candidate!
(in other words - we can laugh like hell at them, but let us never again let our guard down!!!)
I posted proof you posted a date. There are 364 more for that year keep them coming. I even gave you a thumbs up as clearly that's the only way you'll get any.
Yes, rob. This clueless administration is watching the Dow hit record highs, and the housing/job market recover from the worst mismanagement in history. But for the wingnuts, we didn't recover fast enough from the Bush debacle fast enough. They wanted INSTANT results, like Wrongme promised on January 21st. Yes, they still think he would have done a better job. They probably believe all that 'Day One' crap. You only have to look at the speakers at CPAC this year to see they haven't got two clues to rub together.
And as predicted, rob goes missing. lol
Oh no ...are they gonna do a porno together in there jocks...?
now what did the cat do with my glasses
Losers.
Come to think of it, the whole Republican platform is a loser... and a turkey.
I guess the rednecks better start getting ready to love it or leave it.
Turnabout is fair play.
The best way to tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats is Democrats can spell loser. Republicans nine times out of ten spell it loosers. Whenever anyone calls them on it they call them spelling Nazi's. Watch future posts and see if what I say isn't true.
The people of Florida outside of Miami are not to pleased with this Cuban spokesman[A Nice version for Rubio]. His family and his use of LOADS of Florida State money when he was speaker of the FL house questionably to repair cars ,House and Massage parlors didn't set to well with the real voters. We are still waiting for an explanation of how the funds got to him and why he was allowed to get at them. His favorability by REAL Florida voters isn't very good or high. His chances of re election are pretty poor. Even the Miami Cubans are dissatisfied with and about him.
From what I heard, he and his wife used the state issued credit card that is to be used for state business. I guess The Rube figured a massage was deemed a state expenditure, and his wife deemed the new silk curtains for her "office" in their house to be a state expenditure.
@alaska skank
from what you heard . yeah right . like you in a loop or some sh!t . get a life ya breeder .
P.S. you better get a coat hanger girl . cause i did not wear that condom you gave me to use on you . LMAO
gee cliff - the condition of CRANIUM on ANAL ORIFICE is easily remedied - just grasp your ears and PULL
when the smell of SH IT goes away, you have removed your head from your A$$
Will these repubs ever run out of low life half wits?
No, ScottWilk. they won't!!!!!!
That's all they have!!!!
HALF wits? you give them FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT...
Those two wet behind the ears freshmen don't have a clue of what is best for this country. If that is all the GOP has to run in 2016, Hillary will win hands down!!!! Rubio for and then flip flopped against immigraion path to citizenship and extreemist Rand Paul do not fit into 21st Century America. Their forceful push on existing GOPs in Washington to become total obstructionist will be their total downfall.....Boehner can go back to Ohio. McConnell to be voted out by Judd will be a good move. She seems to have more common sense. McConnell married an immigrant who became an American citizen, yet he didn't vote for the "Dream Act". which allows immigrants serving in our military to become citizens. Two faced so and so!!!
And President Obama had oh so much experience right?
well - at LEAST HE HAS A BRAIN (and uses it for THINKING as opposed to THESE wackjobs whose only purpose in having something in their head is to stop the SKULL from IMPLODING BECAUSE OF THE VACUUM BETWEEN THEIR EARS...)
A race between two losers really isn't a race is it?
A couple of wakadoodles for sure. But they will always have the 47% that always votes republican no matter whom it is. All the while complaining about all those government handouts they get, nay demand. And blaming those darn lefties for all the problems they created.
If the Republican Party wants to win the 2016 Presidential race, then they'll need to find a Latino Lesbian to nominate for President. This is the only way they can insure they get the votes they need to win.
that really says a lot for our country. looks like we're done for if you are right. no hope left, just a bunch of loosers.
With an black (sorry, not politically correct) running mate....it is a sad state what our country has become.
There is a lot of truth to the statement though.
It's a sad state to what our country has become because there is a black president? Dude, you are the problem.
I think a black transvestite as a running mate would sew it up for the Republican Party in 2016.
A black transvestite midget would really cover all the bases.
A homeless black transvestite midget with a war injury would include just about every voting block in the electorate that the Republicans have ignored in the past.
A homeless black transvestite pregnant midget with a war injury.
(oh wait! Would that work? I'm really not up on the trannies, but I respect their choices!)
Oh yes, we forgot. A homeless black transvestite pregnant midget with a war injury who works in an abortion clinic.
And let's not forget this. A homeless black transvestite pregnant midget with a war injury who works in an abortion clinic and drives to work with her dog strapped to the roof.
How could we forget. A homeless black transvestite pregnant midget illegal immigrant with a war injury who works in an abortion clinic and drives to work with her dog strapped to the roof.
Hey, with Rand and Marco you're almost there.
Not quite there yet. A homeless pot smoking black transvestite pregnant midget illegal immigrant with a war injury who works in an abortion clinic and drives to work with her dog strapped to the roof.
You got me! I'm tapped out for the day! Nice run! We sure did paint quite the candidate though, didn't we? HA!
Have a great night. I am off to see the wizard.
OMG, I almost forgot. A homeless pot smoking black transvestite pregnant midget illegal immigrant on welfare with a war injury who works in an abortion clinic and drives to work with her dog strapped to the roof.
This person, as a running mate, would draw from every constituency the Republicans have ignored in the last 200 years.
We've completed the 2016 Republican presidential candidate blueprint! Get crackin Cons, you only have two years at most to find this person! That was fun! We should be consulting partners for the GOP!! HA!
Peace out, AGAIN!!
AlaskaGirl, T. Bill Rate, you both made me laugh so frikn hard my stomach hurts!!!!!!!!
Alaska Girl! Seriously? Only a true liberal such as your self would read my comment and come up with that comment. Now, let me walk you through it s-l-o-w-l-y....
First, let me state, I am married to a person of another race and my children are bi-racial so I think I would qualify as anything other than some bigoted pig as you may suggest.
My comment was directed at the fact that it seems we have a real problem in this country whereas we would vote for a person that is this or that instead of based on their platform. Poll results show an overwhelming majority of blacks voted for Barrack. Now mind you, most have seem to forgotten that he is no more black than white...remember, he is bi-racial.
That would be like me voting for Kennedy because I am Catholic or voting for Gore because I was born in North Carolina....which comes into play when a candidate picks a running mate based on where they are from to help "carry the south" or the like.
My comment reflects the sad state of our population that bases their vote on what they are going to get from a particular candidate versus what is in the best interest of the country.
I am of neither party and have voted both democrat and republican, sadly, as most, the lesser of two evils.
Me too Kevin......
..............both were clever with quick wit..........
sounds like T. Bill Rate is telling us his qualifications to run, you are talking about your self
hey - they CAN'T have ignored those folks for 200 years - they've only been in existence for 150...
LMAO, You were right Larry.
amused-2191188
that really says a lot for our country. looks like we're done for if you are right. no hope left, just a bunch of loosers.
"mezzz" your argument is made completely irrelevant by the complete and utter disdain that all who voted for President Obama had for Hermann Cain. Nice try, but your comment is still racially insensitive and patronizing.
You do know, don't you, that Hillary Clinton has your computer tapped and if you don't hush up she's going to have you abducted by aliens dressed as Alaska and T.Bill's Republican candidate. You had better tape garbage bags over your windows and fashion an aerodynamic tin foil cap...
After you post #11.1, the only thing that you have written that is halfway believable is that you were born in North Carolina (and since we can all generalize and stereotype like you do, I'll have to inform you that inbreeding doesn't count as "mixed race").
roflmao - Rubio and Rand. What a freaking JOKE. One of them doesn't even know how to drink water and the other one is an illegal alien. He's from outer-space.
Realy? Thats what you got out of the article? How about you try and make a speech contradicting the president of The United States in front of millions of Americans. Make you nervous? If what you posted is what you would say then maybe not. I have yet to see a valid argument in the comments of this list. And by the way, the statement against Rand Paul is inaccurate. (At least that's who it sounds like your talking about) Who is the other one? I'm curious! Rubio took the quick drink, and is also Hispanic. Which is who you are most likely referring to as illegal. So the statement would make no sense. Not only does your ad hominem make you seem foolish, but immature none the less. If you're basing the Rubio/Paul ballot off of that criteria, you shouldnt be voting in the first place. Grow up.
Or, you could cause a great stir about nothing, nothing that will happen but you say it will, and have your own party disown you. Yep, that's who to vote for, someone who embarassed their own party.
one thing we CAN say about YOU, young, is that your lack of intelligence KNOWS NO BOUNDS - typically infinite human stupidity...
freash meat for the media to chew up not way they will even be considered by 2016 --
With that said democrats really going to put everything on Hilliary? who is their #2 in the case she has another more serious medical condition -- Pelosi? Reid? Biden?
Not that I wish ill health on anyone but lets hope she does not run. Can we really go back to all the B.S. of the Clinton years? Pelosi as democratic nominee?? LOL, I would LOVE to see that!!!
Mezz: why don't you quit embarrassing yourself, repeating the right wing slander and paranoid ravings about the Cllintons. What you have written makes you sound like someone of very little brain.
aw c'mon - let's just be BLUNT with mezz and respond that "Tis better to be silent and be thought a FOOL than to post drivel AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT!"
What a couple of d-bags go ahead and run these losers against anyone the dems put up and see how they do.
I order for the repugs to win anything they will have to back off of their core principal of do nothing.
None of these d-bags have the stones to do anything to show that they have the willingness to be anything but tea party followers and will follow the tea party right into oblivion.
The Republicans have 4 years to re-brand themselves...most of the population is so f'n stupid, (how else can you explain Barrack being re-elected) they wont even think about now...all they have to do is move towards the middle and make the same promises the democrats do...which they will and they are right back in the ballgame. People have short memories, especially in politics....remember Bush 1 was riding an approval rating of 78 % after he Desert Storm.
.most of the population is so f'n stupid,
No, don't tell me. You don't see yourself in that category.
The fact that you think all the Republicans have to do is to re-brand their party and they win the ballgame says alot about what you DON'T know. But, hey, good luck with all that.
Tell us then. What doesn't he know?
Who are you, his sponsor?
If your party really believes that people are not going to see through the bull@!$%# then you are in the right party. According to some in the party, there is no need to change, just gotta repackage it so it doesn't let out the stink this time.
Alaska Girl, once again, read my reply s-l-o-w-l-y
I do not see where I wrote they would win the ballgame, only that they would be RIGHT BACK in the ballgame.
Most of the population are not informed, therefore basing their vote upon a candidates looks, origin, race, gender, etc. If they think they are "informed" it is usually through the campaign commercials played while watching Survivor or one of the other idiotic reality shows that pass as entertainment nowadays.
I do know quite a bit more than the average voter. I listen to both conservative and liberal points of view. I read from both sides as well. I try to educate myself and make an informed decision. And yes, it still comes down to picking the lesser of two evils simply because there is no good party in our present form.
50 more years (if not sooner) it wont even matter...this country is going down the tubes...time for a new party (and not the Tea Party) to emerge.... I have had it with both of the status quo.
go back and READ THIS SLOWLY - the CPAC has a constituency of ABSOLUTE POLITICAL IDIOTS. They choose to exhibit their IDIOCY in their "finery" regalia so that the INFORMED voter can look at their "DELUSIONAL POLICY" (as well as their attire). Then those same voters state for the edification of the REST OF THE WORLD "THEY'RE NAKED, DAMMIT, NAKED!!"
THAT speaks WONDERS of the "intelligence" coming from CPAC (or rather, their TOTAL LACK OF IT) A BUGGY WHIP is more relevant (and the reichwingnutureligionazis continue to wonder "Why can't we win over the hearts and minds of the electorate?"). Physician HEAL THYSELF!
is there an alien 4 movie out
No, but there is a series on the Bilble and Obama is playing the "devil" and a good choice I might say.
more MYTH, eh, dee?
If this is the best the GOP has to offer than I can cast my vote for 2016 right now.
Oh you laughable lib - as if you would vote for an Republican.
Neither Rand Paul or Marco Rubio, will ever be elected as President of the United States. They both are too hard right, and the Nations doesn't want that stance.
@DrMan - You see that's the problem with the GOP, you think you know what everyone is thinking and assume that what you're thinking is what everyone else should be thinking. You don't know me, but just to inform you I did vote Republican until 2008. The GOP, like you, has lost touch with the American people. Their party is in shambles, no one within the party can agree on a single policy, and the people you choose to represent your party do not represent America!
It doesn't matter HOW I vote. If the GOP had nominated a reasonable, rational, moderate they would have easily won. Instead they picked a whack job from the clown car and now wonder what went wrong. The GOP is delusional beyond belief!!