Democrats already throw a balance budget under the bus along with my child's.

There is not a debt problem, there is not an spending problem, "we don't need to balance the budget for the sake of it". At least do for the other children's, you are putting in hostage their future.

What are you talking about, red? Your hate doesn't make any sense.

What I realized that republicans are still trying to kill social security and medicare and medicaid. Three things they have always hated and tried to kill. They have just added Obama-care to the package they feel the need to kill.

Anyone who has fallen for the smaller government fairy tale has bought the biggest con job ever. Everything the republicans do is for the rich, including privatizing our government. Right now the republicans are willing to send all of America back into a recession to protect the rich from paying their fair share.

We have a revenue problem, contrary to lie the republicans tell.

This whole discussion is about who pays for the war that the republicans didn't bother to pay for. They put the whole bill on the credit card and now think that everyone except those who have gotten so rich these last few years should suffer to pay the bill.

Ryan's budget throws the poor, the senior, and the working middle class under the bus, he balances the budget by taking from the those people and giving to the richest people on earth in the name of conservatism. To hell with Paul Ryan and the republican party, we are a government of, by and for the people of this once great country. Not the corporation and the government should never be based on financial stature.

You libs are so blind. You speak but have no proof. You are just parrots. God help us.

Rep. Hal Rogers (R-KY) chairman of the House Appropriations Committee thinks Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget goes too far but will vote for it anyhow.

“It’s not exactly to my liking. There are a lot of things that I’m not happy with, including the overall big number,” he said. “It cuts too much spending, frankly, from the discretionary side of the budget. Most people don’t realize that we only appropriate 1/3 of federal spending … and we’ve cut that by $100 billion over the last two years.”

http://mycn2.com/politics/congressman-hal-rogers-says-paul-ryan-s-budget-cuts-too-much-but-would-vote-for-it

Ryan's remarks were mostly a rehash of his press conferences and media appearances in support of his budget.

Once again, proving the point that there is NOTHING new in the GOP. I'd be pissed if I were a member of that party to hear the same ol sh*t every day. People like Ben however, lap it up.

Mr. Ryan used Social Security Benefits to pay for his college, he used a hand up that he calls a hand out for anyone else. It is lower than low that he took advantage of a program that he helped shut the door on so no one else could follow him to success. And not only did he help shut the door on college money for orphaned children, now he wants to leave the old and disabled living in the streets. Mr. Ryan is a disgrace to the human race.

Ryan's a one-rick pony who won't have anything else to say until someone tells him....

Paul Ryan. The guy who will fix the economy. Of course this is after his votes in congress helped lead to create the mess we're in right now! His proposal is not a budget, it's nothing more than an old stale political statement.

Lyin Ryan will not budge on his attempts to destroy all healthcare systems...except of course the one that he gets, courtesy of the American people!

Tired of all the GOP guys

Funny how the stocks are going up faster than any time since 1996....yes, the last time we had a democrat in the White House....

This guy doesn't even realize they lost the election because people want to keep their Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The majority of the people embrace The Affordable Health Care Act and the right to choose their insurance through the exchange system. All Lyan Ryan wants is to cut everything for everyone that isn't a millionaire. But make sure we keep those subsidies for the mega oil folks and corporations like GE still get their tax free status. Why don't you just go away Ryan and live in your bubble somewhere else.

This problem isn't as simple as spending too much or taxing too much or too little. There are many factors that led to the deficit mess. The largest contributor was that we had two wars that were off the budget and on the credit card. In the past, war bonds, were sold to pay for wars and taxes were increased during the wartime too to aid in the effort. Not this time. Somebody thought we could wage two expensive wars with less money coming in. Pensions of many public workers have become bloated and causing cities, states and the nation to cough up more money than originally thought of. That was poorly planned and done because unions had nothing left to demand. Sending jobs overseas means losing jobs here. People who have jobs pay taxes but when they have no job they don't pay taxes so the revenue is less. Pork barrel projects like a bridge to nowhere are also contributers. Spending money on amrmaments the military doesn't want and that they don't need, oil portraits of cabinet members and other such silliness also contribute to the financial woes of the country. Properly handled, there would be no problem with Social Security or Medicare. Unfortunately the greedy in Congress got their grubby paws on money for those programs putting them at risk. SSI has been the most successful govrnment run program in history and it will take a Congress to mess it up. Austerity progrmas didn't work in Europe and they won't work in America either.

The problem isn't just a Republican or Democrat problem but a shared problem. At this point we can only look back and see the errors committed, learn from them and do what is necessary to correct them. A balanced approach, as President Obama as said, is the right way to go. We need to cut unnecessary spending while increasing, albeit temporary, revenue. If that revenue doesn't come from middle class people with jobs than it must come from the filthy rich who could pay a couple percent more and give up a loophole or two.

Pigotry

Mr. Ryan, ... go away ... don't throw my grandma under the bus

You need to get new material Oinker, your statement is getting soooooo old. This Progressive talking point is rather old. Your Progressive Party consistently uses this lie when talking why spending is more important than fiscal responsibility. If you analyze the Ryan plan, he isn't advocating pushing Granny over the cliff, but keeping Granny using the Medicare system while making changes to future users. Where does his plan state Granny is long gone from the world?

Under the Obama care plan, government regulators will make the decision on Granny living or waiting to pass on from Planet Earth. Ryan also proposes spending while also cutting waste and expense from Big Gov, expanded by the present administration. The plan also proposes to balance the budget!

The Progressive plan asks for $1T more in spending while reducing expense by an equal amount. So where will the additional $1T come from, those millionaires, or the middle class? I am all in on revises the tax system, but where will the Dems cut?

When you look at the Dem plan, they seem to favor more taxes, more spending with no balance budget addressed. Do you actually feel more taxes and spending will be the correct method for moving forward?

How will this administration sustain spending more while reducing the national debt? Rather than blast negativity along party lines, tell me how the Progressive plan is the correct one to follow.

And when do you think the Progressives will begin to compromise?

Americans First-3238795 I have a question for you. I feel I am a bit libertarian and a bit of a Reagan Republican. The government is the problem. I am not the “ask what your country can do for you” type of JFK progressive. That being said I believe we should take care of our elderly and the disabled. Now I am not heartless but I feel less inclined to help merely the less fortunate but a safety net is needed to help people out in their time of need. But the problem with our government is we look to keep people in poverty all of their lives this is NOT a safety net it is captivity. We simply say here is some cash and it will always be here. It is like some addictive drug and people keep coming back with their hand out and doing nothing to earn this benefit. I heard a quote from Al Sharpton I am paraphrasing because I do not not remember the exact wording but someone said that when is the black community going to pull itself up by its boot straps. He said his constituents just need some boot straps. Not meaning to Al made my point, we have generation upon generation of poor because they only know how to be poor and look for their next government check. I am not looking do degrade any specific group. I have a niece on welfare before she was on welfare she was trying to find some way she could get on disability, anything but "get a job," how did she learn this? From her her mother. My niece has children now and what is she going to teach them? Now my point and all of this is we as a nation need to cut spending and yes it will affect the poor. But in most situations this is not the job for the government you provide short term assistance and if that runs out you are on your own. Period end of story. I am for teach a man to fish. Rather than giving them a fish. I am not for cutting Social Security, I am not for cutting Medicare but we have too much government. The arguments I keep hearing is the rich should pay their share. People we do not have a revenue problem the government brings is cash and Oh boy does it bring in Loads of it!!! The problem is we have a spending problem. Before I hear that the rich should pay their fair share one more time if you want fairness here is a stat no one that makes that argument wants to hear. 42% of all Americans Pay $0.00 in income tax. No one brings that up when they yell fairness.

hey, not funnygirl2 (#1.15)

Pigotry Mr. Ryan, ... go away ... don't throw my grandma under the bus

You need to get new material Oinker, your statement is getting soooooo old.

Truth is worth repeating a thousand times, especially when nuts like Ryan can never be reasoned with and Ryan the Nut keeps repeating the same old drivel even after being rejected in Nov. 2012.

Truth is worth repeating a thousand times, to counter all the lies repeated more than a thousand times by all the RWNJs on FUX and rwnjs here, including you.

Oink, oink

Truth is worth repeating a thousand times

Lies need to be repeated thousand until people beleive is truth.

Thruth stand by itself.

The current Administration could take some advice from North Korea

http://msnvideo.msn.com/?channelindex=4&from=en-us_msnhp#/video/a45238aa-474f-5e31-ead3-2af4161b5653

North Korea one upped the current Administration on doom and gloom

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Addle: to obfuscate or confuse

Addler: one who Addles

Adler: an obsolete addler

Of course Ryan only spoke about his budget and not about the future of the GOP.

Because of his budget, the GOP HAS NO FUTURE.

Actually, according to his so-called "budget," he's going to throw grandma under the bus AND tax her for it. He basically cancels the benefits and services associated with Obamacare and cuts Medicare, but keeps all associated revenues, including new revenues. hehe.

And yes, Dirk, exactly. Thanks to people like him, his party doesn't have a future. Before this is done, they'll just be a regional party for mathematically impaired ideologues. The only question is whether or not they'll manage to take the rest of the republic down with them.

GOP, because the sum of any two numbers is zero.

Perhaps Ryan knows the GOP doesn't have a future, and that's why he didn't want to talk about it. Donald Trump, also a guest speaker at the CPAC, did have the courage though, to tell them the truth:

"Our country is in very, very serious trouble," Trump said, adding, "Likewise the Republican Party is in serious trouble." He said if the party wants to "change substantially" Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid, "and you think you're going to win elections, it just really is not going to happen."

The Republicans should just stick to two simple messages and keep repeating them;

1 - The skyrocketing Debt will be devastating to the future of our children.

2 - The massive increases in the money supply to fund the Deficits will result in massive Inflation, high Interest Rates, and more Unemployment.

These are simple messages that even the 'low information voters' will understand, and there is no doubt that we will have to deal with these problems in the near future. They need to make sure that Obama is held responsible for the economic consequences of his policies.

Obama's own 2013 Budget projections show that the National Debt will increase from $9.986 Trillion at the end of fiscal 2008 to $20.392 Trillion at the end of 2016 (Obama's last year) - but President's budget projections are notoriously 'optimistic' (Bush projected a SURPLUS for 2012, but Obama's DEFICIT for 2012 was $1.1 Trillion) - it will likely be closer to $25 Trillion in 2016. The Interest cost alone will be devastating.

The Chinese are no longer buying our Debt - in fact, they have quietly 'cashed in' about $200 Billion of their loans to us over the last year (they know inflation is coming), and the Federal Reserve has had to replace that money by effectively 'printing new money' - along with about $1 Trillion in new money to finance the Deficit. The money supply (M1) has increased from about $1.4 Trillion in 2009 to about $2.5 Trillion now. Every responsible economist will tell you that this is highly "INFLATIONARY" - ala the 14% Inflation and 18% Interest Rates under Jimmy Carter in 1980.

Even the far-left Liberal outlet The Huffington Post recognized this;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sheldon-filger/federal-reserve-begins-ma_b_677483.html

Paul Ryan said Chris Christie was not invited to the CPAC because of his bear hug, N.J. Republicans say this is the crazy Tea Party's call and they will pay for this when they need our votes in 2014 & 2016 !!!

It is curious that the teabagger darling didn't win the straw man poll. Rand Paul won. So, you can expect poodletop and Marco 'The Anti-Bigot' Rubio to be the next flag the irrelephants run up the flagpole.

Look. Ryan is probably the most sincere out of the bunch. He truly believes in what he's presenting... he's just hampered by the "CFO" syndrome. Many CFO's can tell you where every penny, nickle, and dime goes but couldn't tell you where the company is going... much less have a new vision of where it SHOULD go. They have every clue as to WHAT needs to happen but are severely lacking the knowledge or vision as to HOW.

Yes, Ryan, we need to balance the budget. And, yes, the easiest and quickest math formula to effect that end is to cut the spending. And, yes, Medicare and Social Security are SO tempting to cut... with such principled balance sheet issues and being so big, and all.

But Ryan, like CFO's, does not have the capacity to envision his cut's affects on PEOPLE. Ryan, like CFO's, cannot deal with GROWTH (i.e. Marketing and Sales) in his thinking... someone has to GIVE him that number and FORCE him to apply it... as we do with CFO's. And Republicans will never do that (consider growth) while Obama is in there. If they do they lose.

You see, in Ryan's world, a simple balanced budget is all he needs. It IS his world. But his advice is advice-never-used in business... it excludes vision, people effects, investments, and growth assumptions.

Come on Republican business people out there! Back me up on this!

"It is curious that the teabagger darling didn't win the straw man poll. Rand Paul won. "

It doesn't matter. The reality is the only way any of the speakers at this CPAC gathering will ever see the inside of the White House is if they are invited by a Democratic President.

piggy

These corporations were bailed out with taxpayers' money

GE one of the largest corporation donors to the DNC pay zero taxes. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

Don't forget that it was the republicans that voted for GE to not pay taxes and republicans refuse to close any loopholes that would make them pay taxes. The republicans right now are more willing to send America into another recession than close one loop-hole for GE.

Funny how you only care about the ones who donate to the democratic party who are actually giving money to support the party that has promised to raise their taxes for the good of our economy.

What about the corporations that give money to the republicans to full-fill the promise of destroying our economy to protect tax cuts for the rich?

I think you are the one throwing stones in your glass house.

Obama was offered closing loopholes during the fiscal cliff negotiations but he chose tax rates. His choice so it's his bed to sleep in -- it is his responsibility. He he being outed on his back stabbing approach in negotiations and the walls are caving in on his administration. Obama reminds me of the character on The Walking Dead -- the evil weasel governor of Woodbury. Disgusting.

Ben, curious you don't mention the grand bargain that would've more than satisfied the Republicans but was rejected.

If anyone harbors a bunch of back stabbers it's the Republican Party.

Ben, you've been citing references to Zombies all week ... I'd suggest you get outside, breathe some fresh air and realize that the only zombies are the policies and practices of the GOP.

Funny how republicans howl louder than anyone else about the deficit but when reasonable solutions are presented, like have corporations pay their fair share then they howl with the other side of their faces. We need to get rid of the tax sheltered money given to C3 organizations-- churches and cancer societies need to pay taxes, it would put a huge dent in the deficit. but you will never see a republican back that.

I find it funny how everyone "talks" about corporations getting tax breaks, huge profits, etc...

Who did we elect to take care of this, and what is being done? It didn't take long to increase America's taxes, did it? Why does the buck stop there?

Obama doesn't talk in specifics about the budget, nor does he talk about his desire to enslave the citizens of the United States to the government.

This is called communism, and Obama wants to be the dictator of the United Socialist States of America. All you liberals will have a new title when this happens. You will be known as Comrad Liberal.

I know how much Republicans hate education.........................but really, do yourself a favor and buy yourself a dictionary. Then look up the definition of dictator. Good grief-you guys and your communist, socialist, marxist, dictator, crap is getting so old now. Give it a break. When you parrot Fox news, Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck propaganda you show how gullible you are.

Didn't you get the message that the Republican party has to stop being the stupid party?

I guess not.

Lil Michelle,

I find it funny that Obama is now concerned that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within a year and we have to stop it from happening.

Why wasn't he so concerned during his first five years in office?

Ted I feel I am a fiscal conservative I believe in less government. Not going down the road of true trickle down because the truth is it doesn't but I am such a fan of the federal government getting out of the dictating of education. That is not even a state issue that is strictly local. Yes I know that most of the education is paid for by the state. I am the grandson of a 30 year school teacher and there are morons out there that do not know what a dictator is. All that being said It is a tiny piece of the government expenditure but I would like the see all issues dealing with education be pulled from the Federal Government. The problem is we have a spending problem. Taxing the wealthy at 90% would not fix the deficit we have. Neither will cutting the military in half and taxing anyone that makes over 250k. Now the right has talking heads of rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. I stated I am a fiscal conservative I do find them entertaining but a poor choice for information.

I should have proofed that before posting it. That reads like hell. My apologies.

One final note to balance the budget today we need to cut 1/3 of our spending. There is no way we will be able to tax ourselves into a balanced budget unless every single american is going to pay what they are paying now + 1/3 of their current salary and remember that 42% of all Americans pay $0.00 in income taxes. I do not have a degree but I can do simple math. If I am incorrect in my math someone please inform me. I do not claim to have all the answers but I believe my data is at least correct.

Cut 1/3 of our budget. Let it be the military and corporate welfare.

It blows my mind that Ryan and his political cronies want to defund Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to balance our budget but have absolutely no problem throwing billions of dollars at big oil in welfare tax entitlements(subsidies) all while big oil is ripping off Americans and are making record profits. Until the gop gets it through their thick assed skulls that Americans want to cut corporate welfare handouts before touching anything the average American depends on/pays into. And until they start doing that instead of protecting their wealthy donors they will keep on losing further elections. You see, the majority of America gets it, but if republicans haven't gotten this through their thick skulls yet they are surely doomed to more and more failure. I guess they'll have to double their efforts to rig more elections in the future.....sad!!

"I find it funny that Obama is now concerned that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within a year and we have to stop it from happening."

So funnygirl2 -- what I find even funnier is how totally uninformed you are.

TNSEVOL...very good ...you did not say however that with any changes to federal pensons for all workers...congress is excempt form whatever is passed. They will continue to write their own thickets for pay or and benefits.

TNSEVOL, you also forgot to mention that the Senate Democrat's plan offers barely any deficit reduction, since it amasses $1.9 Trillion, $1.2 Trillion of which will be used to negate the Sequester. They also don't try to reach a balanced budget ever, which will result in the US reaching a point within 20-25 years of having so much debt that it will be impossible to reduce it at all because of the interest. At that point, the only way to reduce the debt would be to print a ton of money and pay some of it off, which would result in a mass amount of inflation and an entire economic collapse.

But no, y'all are right, let's just keep pushing the problem down the road and not deal with the massive spending and debt problem that our nation is facing right now. I mean who knows, maybe we can get the tax rate up to 90%, with no deductions, and that will increase the federal government's revenue so much that it'll only take a few years to get rid of the debt.

In 1920, President Warren Harding was faced with a slowing economy which was only getting worse. What did President Harding do to fix the economy? He reduced taxes and reduced government spending, which resulted in smalled government. As a result of these two policies, the roaring 20s began anew and it wasn't until President Hoover decided that the government needs to get more involved in economic problems and started to raise taxes and increase spending during economic downturns, which resulted in the 1929 crash and the Great Depression. These policies consisted for the next 20 years, and it took World War II and all the way up to the '50s before America was prospering again...

Up until then, it was always the idea that lesser government intervention in the free market would help to turn things around during economic downturns and it had always worked, but for some reason, even if it was working and would always work, we keep trying to return to the failed policies that obviously don't help.

Just so everyone knows, during the economic recession of 1920-1921, the unemployment rate jumped up to 12.5% and President Harding got it back down to 5% in 18 months. It's been over 4 years and the unemployment has just gotten back down to where it was at over 4 years ago, a lot of the reason is because the labor force continues to shrink as fewer people stop looking for work.

And now a quote from President Harding - "It is my conviction that the fundamental trouble with the people of the United States is that they have gotten too far away from Almighty God."

It was the banks and wall street then and now!

Paul Ryan ha s the Romey disease --- flip-flopatites. For example -- during the campaign Ryan was for closing tax loop-holes to increase revenue. Now he's against it. He was against the Obama cuts to medicare during the campaign but now he's for them. And of course -- he wants to again repeal Obama-care. That only FAILED 37 times before.

"It was the banks and wall street then and now!"

That's exactly right -- the primary cause of the depression of 1929 was speculation on Wall Street and in the Bush depression it was speculation in the housing market.

Get this straight America, Paul Ryan does not write these budgets. His staff copies them form someone else's budgets and he claims them as his own. Ask him whats in them, he can't tell you all he can do is give his talking points over and over again.

They are the product of the Heritage Foundation! The go-to place for Ryan and his GOP brothers and sisters!

Heritage Foundation, funded by Multinational Corporations, international casinos and foriegn countries.

Great research source, for the RBs

If the GOP believed in science, they would be able to recognize Ryan as a failed experiment.

"If the GOP believed in science, they would be able to recognize Ryan as a failed experiment."

If they believed in science, they would recognize the entire theory of supply side economics as a failed experiment.

Robert, you forget the credit card debt run up for an illicit war by the last Republican in charge. Didn't hear you conservatives whinning about the deficit when that happened, but now, that the deficit is growing for things you might not agree with, like helping your fellow citizen...now you whine. shut up.

Robert-Bush ran up the credit card debt with his trillion dollar wars, multibillion dollar unfunded Medicare Part D, and tax breaks during the time of war.

No matter how much you don't like it, Bush ran up the credit card debt and gave Obama the bill.

8 years later and the Blame Bush line still isn't retired? Ahh, the no blame mentality of a liberal. O % accountability for anything negative.

Deficits and Surpluses of the US Government since 2000:

2000 - $236.4 Billion Surplus

2001 - $127.3 Billion Surplus

2002 - $157.8 Billion Deficit

2003 - $377.6 Billion Deficit

2004 - $413 Billion Deficit

2005 - $318 Billion Deficit

2006 - $248 Billion Deficit

2007 - $161 Billion Deficit

2008 - $459 Billion Deficit

2009 - $1.413 Trillion Deficit

2010 - $1.294 Trillion Deficit

2011 - $1.299 Trillion Deficit

2012 - $1.1 Trillion Deficit

Note that none of these times did the Debt actually go down. The surpluses in 2000 and 2001 still did not offset the amount of interest that was paid for on the debt at that time and that interest is not included in these budgets.

If you really wanna get picky about these deficits and why spending went up during Bush's years (not saying that the wars were right or not), there was a recession in 2001 after the dot.com bubble burst, which resulted in the tax cuts and some deregulation which resulted in the economy correcting itself. Then, starting in 2006, the newest economic recession started with the housing market bubble burst and yet, the deficits from 2004 through 2007 dropped (even with the Tax Cuts).

I will not say I agree or disagree with Bush for a lot of his policies, but I don't think continuing to blame him, even after him being out of office for over 4 years, will help move this country forward.

Bush/Cheney might be out of office but their legacy is still with us and will be due to the GOP/TP politicians. They and their followers refuse to allow our country to prosper because it will make someone they hate look good. Instead of saying, if we work with the president and our country prospers - we can also take the credit for it. No - they would rather just see us fail because they and their wealthy backers will always prosper since this is a global economy.

"8 years later and the Blame Bush line still isn't retired?"

Whenever I hear that “stop blaming Bush” line, I chuckle at the very short memory you Republicans have. From 1976 to 1992 you whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Carter of everything wrong in the entire universe. Some of you even blamed him for the housing crash in 2007 even though he left office more than a quarter of a century earlier. Then from 1992 to 2008 you whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Clinton for everything that was wrong in the entire universe. You blamed Clinton for 9/11, for the housing crisis, even for the massive deficits of the Bush administration. So – using the standard you set – the left has another 29 years to blame Bush for everything just to pull even with you.

Really? A change in their principles? You have Senator Rand Paul stand up and profess his principles as wanting to enforce and defend the Constitution and everything that the Bill of Rights stands for, and you think that he should change his principles? He's one of the few congressmen who actually is willing to fight with his own party in order to defend all of our God-given rights and you label him and the entire Tea Party as a bunch of nutjobs and extremists and some of y'all go as far as labeling them terrorists. Absolutely rediculous...you should be thanking them for actually standing up for what they believe in and standing up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights because those are both there for us, the people.

"Do we fear terrorism so much that we throw out our Constitution, and are unwilling and afraid to debate the Constitution." - Senator Rand Paul

Ryan and a lot of other republicans follow the doctrine of an atheist so "GOD GIVEN" rights isn't in their plan. They only use religion for votes and control.

Backwards theories like Capitalism?

They are just trying to preserve deregulation deformation. My job we are low paid high stress. They just threatened us with firings and discipline because we do not work hard enough for our low pay. I call anyone who protects these villains a villain. I could not afford a lawyer to protect myself if they went into the system and changed a couple numbers. These jerk offs are listening to what we are saying. Other news agancies are reading our comments.

They deserve these inflammatory comments. My ass would be fired in a second for posting what I say here. I am sure if they read it all they would contact my employer.

They are villains.

They would change the rules and regulations if they applied to them. Prove me wrong. Until then they are all villains.

That's the guy--ol" Paul "I never met a lie I wouldn't tell" Ryan