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Subscribe to RSSUpdated 2:15pm ET -- Against a backdrop of impending automatic budget cuts, President Barack Obama on Monday urged the nation's governors to press Washington lawmakers into action to avert the looming sequester.
"While you are in town I hope that you speak with your congressional delegation and remind them in no uncertain terms exactly what is at stake and exactly who is at risk," Obama said during a White House address to the National Governors Association, which is holding its annual meeting in Washington, D.C.
"All of us are elected officials," he said. "All of us are concerned about our politics, both in our own party's as well as the other party's. But at some point we've got to do some governing."
President Barack Obama challenges members of Congress to compromise in order to avoid automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to take place on Friday.
Seeking to contrast the leadership of executives of the nation's 50 states with what he described as the parochial concerns of members of Congress, Obama slammed the latter for an "obsession" with politics over governance.
"I know that sometimes folks in Congress think that compromise is a bad word, and they figure they will pay a higher price at the polls for working with the other side than they will for standing pat or engaging in obstructionism," he said. "But as governors - some of you with legislatures controlled by the other party - you know that compromise is essential to getting things done."
Obama said that Democrats will have to swallow "modest" reforms to Medicare in exchange for the closure of tax loopholes resisted by Republicans who argue spending cuts must be prioritized over new revenues.
The president's characterization of Congress echoed frustration voiced by his second-in-command, Vice President Joe Biden, who told the group earlier that Washington is "frozen - not in indifference - but in sort of an intense partisanship the likes of which in my career I've only seen in the last couple years."
The across-the-board budget cuts set to take effect Friday are the subject of much finger-pointing as affected industries brace for the coming drain of federal funding.
Charles Dharapak / AP
President Barack Obama addresses the National Governors Association, Monday, Feb. 25, 2013, in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington.
The administration has deployed surrogates and cabinet secretaries - including transportation chief Ray LaHood and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano - to warn of the consequences of the sequestration's reductions for air travel and border security.
But many in the GOP have accused the White House of overstating the impact of the cuts.
"I think he's trying to scare the American people," said Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal after a closed-door meeting between the governors' group and the president. "He needs to stop. He needs to start providing real leadership."
Jindal, who chairs the Republican Governors Association, said the president rejected his idea of holding off on implementation of his new health care law until the more immediate harmful cuts are offset.
The Louisiana governor also suggested that the president rebuffed a proposal that Congress should authorize greater flexibility for the implementation of the cuts.
"The answer to everything we got was no," added South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley.
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It's for the children you know.
whatcountryshouldimoveto
So what do you suggest that we do: continue to spend like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse like has been don for the past 50+ years with no accountability or responsibility? Is that the answer?
The problem that I have with President Obama's Plan is that he and the "Progressives" in congress continue to come back every week for more taxes, but refuse to look at any politically unfriendly cuts. Don't they realize that one day the FED will hold a debt auction and no one will come? What are they going to do when the dollar is on par with the yen and they have to start distributing them on a roll in a 12 pack? That is where we are headed when we print money with both hands and continue toward QE-1000. What will a gallon of gas cost or a pound of ground beef? Will salaries keep up with this hyperinflation that will surely follow? I dare say that they will not.
Can you tell me what the magic tipping point of debt to GDP is where the lenders start charging credit card interest on sovereign debt? Is it 180% like Greece, 140% like Spain and Portugal, or around 100% like the US? When will the lenders just say "This is too risky; I'm out'ta here"? It has happened before; just like in Zimbabwe. Another occurrence in recent history was called the Weimar Republic and the outcome of the ensuing little bar fight that followed didn't turn out too well for about 50 Million people. Don't they understand this is what really took Greece down? It wasn't that Greece couldn't borrow money, but that the lenders were charging loan shark rates because of the risk. The cost of short term borrowing went through the roof and it pushed Greece over the edge as it is now doing to Portugal, Italy, and Spain.
Perhaps they've also missed it, but for the past 50 or 60 years, we have raised generations of people that think corn and peas grow in a "Green Giant" can. In the 20's and 30's we were a mostly agrarian society; it ain't that way anymore. We have created a large portion of society that is dependent on the government's stipend in order to just survive. Don't believe me? Just go to any major city like Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, or Miami . What do you think will happen when the stipend goes away or inflation is so high that it won't buy anything? Do they really think these people will just sit on the curb and cry or will they turn into an angry Athens style rioting mob complete with torches, pitch forks, and a 1911A1 .45 Automatic for everyone? I wonder what the riots in Athens would have looked like if the rioters had been better armed than the police like the gangs in Chicago or LA are today. My money is 10 to 1 on the mob if the dollar tanks.
It has been my experience over my almost 65 years that civilization is a very thin veneer that we CHOOSE to wear. If you place people into the wrong situations and apply enough pressure, most of us will both quickly and cheerfully strip off that veneer faster than the dancer on stage at the nudie bar. Necessity, Hunger, and Survival are the most ruthless of our natural instincts and it won't take much for us to revert to the animals from whence we came. We as humans will do whatever it takes to survive at the expense of anyone or anything else. We are not a very kind or attractive species when the going gets tough. Western Governments as a whole have, for the past 60+ years told their constituency, "We will always take care of everything you need, no matter what"; What happens when they can't?
When people can't feed their kids and it takes a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread, normally sane and rational people will start doing some really friggin' crazy things. I have several very good friends from Germany. My friends are an intelligent, kind, thoughtful, and generous group of people, but about 80 years ago they, as a collective, followed a really crazy little bastard (literally) straight into the pit of hell for just that reason. They have told me stories about what their parents and grandparents endured and did that would curl your hair.
I served with the 3rd Marines in Quang Tri and Thua Thien provinces of Vietnam and have seen with my own eyes just what my fellow human creature is capable of doing when the going gets tough or the pressure too great. Do they really want to see what he looks like too? If they continue spending like that Drunken Sailor in the whorehouse with no responsibility and accountability and printing money with both hands and they will probably get a chance to see it for themselves. I can guarantee them from experience that it won't be too damned much fun.
From the article above:
The Mad Hatter Tea Party continues to hold America's Poor and Middle class hostage. Folks just want to get back to work and live their lives the way they use to BEFORE the Tea Party came into existance.
The Republicans are the party of the rich and that is who they will always cater to. I remember a time when Republicans worked with Democrats together and created the Middle Class. Republicans were good people then. Common sense types, but now, they are a sad, pathetic selfish lot.
No more do the Republicans care about the Poor or Middle class. They only care about the rich, the rich lobbyists and the rich campaign supporters.
Poll after poll shows Americans disgusted by the actions of the Tea Party. They simply just don't get it and they simply don't care.
Salud
I wish people would quit saying that the sequester is cutting government spending. Its not. It is just slowing the rate of growth in the budget. Obama and everyone in Congress apparently wants us to continue down the path to insolvency because no one wants to actually cut anything. We need to cut spending now while interest rates are low, not accumulate more debt for when they eventually rise.
No more do the Republicans care about the Poor or Middle class. They only care about the rich, the rich lobbyists and the rich campaign supporters.
Man the wool has really been pulled over your eyes if you think the Democrats haven't been bought and sold as well. If we had true limited government there wouldn't be any power for the politicians to sell to campaign supporters and lobbyists.
American people to Obama...... LOWER SPENDING, CUT GOVERNMENT, tell Michelle to stop buying dresses....
tomas - millionaires and billionaires
ThomasGrande: Really am tired of people thinking that just because we do not want to sacrifice our children's future we conservatives " don't care." Who exactly does not care! Perhaps it was the progressives in Spain, Portugal, France, California etc. that don't care! Want to improve the populations wealthfare then create wealth! The government can not do that, entrepeneurs can. Let them do that and get the government the heck out of our lives!!
To our President,
1) You were in favor of this, before you were against it. It was pushed by you and your White House to Congress. You made the bed, time to lay down.
2) Do not cut those programs.. Look at the debt reduction committee that you championed, and use some of their suggestions.
3) Stop with the fear mongering you and your party like to claim the right likes to do. 85 billion, out of a 3 trillion dollar budget.. Its a drop in the hat. The Federal Gvmnt spends MORE then 85 billion every week. You are talking about cutting funding for ONE WEEK of the Gvmnt. I am 100 percent sure that you can find the money in waste and or " future Gvmnt spending increases " like you and Congress did before.
This was a deal you made, to increase your spending levels. ( debt limits ) and now that you got your deal, and spent the money we did not have, you want to go back on the deal. Not right Mr President, very not right.
I guess Bobby Jindahl was too busy criticizing the president to notice that the REPUBLICAN speaker of the house was writing an opinion piece for the Wall Street Journal claiming how bad the sequester will be.
No matter. Whatever the problem, republicons will always attempt use the Democrats as scapegoats.
Except, there would be no problem, if the republicons hadn't ransomed the debt ceiling raise. See, if a republicon president is seeking a debt ceiling raise.....noooooo problem. But if the president is a democrat???
The Party of NO, or as Bobby Jindahl so aptly put it...the stupid party.
Maybe it should instead be known as the Party of NO clue.
We know.
Furlough is the word of the day. Of course the President prefers not to furlough air traffic
controllers because it would interfere with his private golf lessons in Florida.
The President would continue to borrow Chinese funds so that the air traffic controllers
can be paid.
The President hasn't the guts to raise taxes on American tax payers to pay the
salaries of the air traffic controllers.
Obama isan “essential person”. Therefore, it is important that we continue to borrow from China to pay for air traffic controllers so that there will be nointerference with Obama’s $187,000 plane trips to his $10,000 golf lessons with Tiger Woods.
From the article above:
The Vice-President is so true.
Since the Dick Armey-Koch Brothers Tea Party came into existance in 2010, they have distroyed any bi-partisanship there was left in Washington. The Republicans have set out to distroy the Democrats and President Obama since the day he took office.
They could care less that millions and millions of ordinary citizens, Republican, Democrats and Independents, have had their lives ruined by their lack of bi-partisanship.
Isn't it funny how all the RW bloggers and Faux sNewzzzzz pundits NEVER, EVER, EVER shouted about deficits, and spending too much when GWB was President and when Republicans had the White House, the House and Senate for six years.
Never did you hear a peep out of the RW about how horrible it was that Republicans were spending our Tax dollars, and borrowing money from the Saudi's and China.
No folks, this is entirely about the fact that a Democrat is in the White House, and it is the RW, Rush, Faux sNewzzzzz mantra to always paint Democrats as "tax and Spenders", to always belittle, berate, and demonize Democrats, and to obstruct, procrastinate, and shut down our Government for the sole purpose to make a Democrat President look bad.
Yes, that's the truth.
Republicans DON'T care about the American Middle Class and Poor. They ONLY care about POWER, GREED, and keeping up the apperance that American is more "conservative" than progressive.
Which really, is the biggest lie of all.
Salud
Puh-lease,
When was the last time a Democrat that has been in office since they took power under bush accepted ANY of their culpability in the mess we are currently in...
How many times have we heard, Its Bush;s fault.....
Sorry your nothing more then a partisan political hack.
the elderly are gonna die
Tomas,
Really the tea party didnt come around until after the Dems were very entrenched in congress and controlled all three branches of Gvmnt.
You know after the Dems said, we won, you can come along for the ride but you have to sit at the back of the bus..
Funny thing is, Everything you said about new outlets, talk show hosts, and your other talking points can be said about the Dems too..
another partisan hack.
TomasGrande - Or as you are known in Colorado, "Fat Tom from Mexico." It's clear that you don't know anything about U. S. history, but the Democrats and Republicans did not create a "middle class." That is a term simply applied to a large part of the bell curve of wage earners. The occupant of the White House is the reason for the lack of bipartisanship that now exists in Washington, not the conservatives in the Republican Party.
Just three things, Jeremy.
(1) When did the Democrats last "control" the Supreme Court? I forget.
(2) As for news outlets, the left has MSNBC but, as Fox News keeps telling us, their rating are always low. Where is the Democratic equivalent of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and the whole Rupert Murdoch empire?
(3) Before the 2010 elections, in which the Dems "took a shellacking", things got done. Since then, the number of cloture votes in the Senate has skyrocketed and the new majority is not the Constitutionally mandated 51 votes but a minimum of 60 votes, which represent a radical change in governance.
The House Republicans, terrified of a challenge from the right by Ayn Rand fans, refuses to compromise and has brought about the gridlock and other nonsense we see today. How is that like "sitting at the back of the bus"?
Puh-lease - Actually, they are the (K)NO(W) NOTHING Party. That harkens back to another great moment in history.....
Robert:
1) my bad, Shouldn't of been branches of Gvmnt, should of been House, Senate and the Presidency. The SCotUS is supposed to be non-partisan, nobody is supposed to control it.
2) All you have to do is look at the likes of Madcow for your comparison to Limpballs..
3) Things did not " get done " they were forced down. We have to pass the bills before we know whats in them... One party rule is never a good thing. A cloture vote vs a vote to pass the bill are 2 different things. The Filibuster was PUT in place so the minority party would not be ran over by the majority. Learn a little history.
Those people were elected TO STOP the left from passing the bad bills they were doing. They are doing exactly as we the people who elected them, told them to do.
The lack of compromise is on both sides of the isle.. You don't have to look any farther then the Reid in the Senate not bringing ANY of the bills the house passes up for discussion, modification and sent back to the house.. Like EVERY other bill has happened in the history of this nation....
Republicans are cutting their own throats with cuts, the American people are up to their games !!!
As usual, same old Karl Rove Blogger talking points.
Deflect, Belittle, insult, and perpetuate false equivalencies.
The Democrats NEVER controled all three branches of Government because the Republicans used the filibuster more times than any other previous Presidencies combined.
Another Right Wing media lie that amature bloggers perpetuate.
The Democrats and Republicans DID work together to help build the middle class. I am old enough to have lived it and seen it in my lifetime.
To say anything other than that is another lie.
President Obama has reached across the aisle constantly throughout his presidency. There is plenty of facts available to back that up.
It is a 100% fact that the Tea Party Republicans have obstructed and blocked every effort to boost the economy and get America moving forward again over the last two years, simply to blame a DEMOCRAT President regardless if millions of Americans suffer for it.
To blame President Obama is yet another Right Wing talking point, and a complete fabricated lie.
Faux sNewzzzzz, Rush Limbaugh, Clear Channel, and all the other Right Wing media outlets have dominated the U.S. airwaves for almost 20 years now, and they are soley responsible for the "dumbing down" of half the population in this country and causing our nation to faulter into a black hole of pettiness and do-nothing BS.
The false-equivalency saying the "Liberal Media" is just as bad is just that; a false equivalency, and another lie perpetuated by the kool-aid thinking RW media.
Which comes back to the first point I made that Republican blogger refuse to admit.
How come RW bloggers, and the Republican party NEVER blamed Bush, Bush 1, or Reagan for rolling up the National Debt, and why didn't the RW blogger condem them for spending America into the huge dept THEY created?
Whey didn't RW bloggers, Faux sNewzzzzz condem President Bush and Dick Cheney for morgaging our future and borrowing and spending money that created the massive debt we are in now?
Why?
Because Faux sNewzzzzz, Rush, and the RW media told them it's all the Democrats fault, and they are quite happy with that lie because they truely don't give a damn about the Poor and Middle Class and thy love the idea that Faux and Rush tell them how to think, what to think, and always blame Democrats for it.
So sad that the selfishness of the RW media has distroyed this great country for the sole purpose to take our money from us and give it to the wealthy.
Yes, that 's the real re-distibution of wealth, brought to you by, the Republican Tea Party.
Salud
Why?
If this guy/obama actually worked for a company he would be fired.
what a sorry ass piece of @!$%#
he has had a year 2 work on this I myself would have been done.
taking points like what 23 million out of work 47 million on food stamps
gas and food going thru the roof
Obama can't cut spending unilaterally. It's congresses job to draft legislation, not the Presidents.
Congress sits back eating a sandwich on vacation, clearly unwilling to do anything in terms of compromise. Yes they drafted legislation that won't pass.
Come together and fix it.
Jeremy-
John Boehner and the Tea Party ran their campaigns in 2010 on "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs", promising Americans that they were going to get the economy moving.
They lied to the American People. They used the American People.
Their goal from the beginning was to obstruct President Obama at all costs, regardless if millions of Americans lost their jobs, their houses, or even their lives by being uninsured.
Poll after poll shows Americans have had it with the Tea Party, they are sick of the obstruction, and they hold the Republicans accountable for the mess they have left America in.
And as all your blogs prove, you are all for the distruction of America because that is what you get paid to do to spread the RW media lies in your posts.
Salud
All the people who are arguing against one party and for another are clueless. Sorry guys but both parties spend way too much money, both parties are responsible for our fiscal mess and neither party has any real solutions. Have fun with the finger pointing blame game.
What rock did all of these republicans crawl out from under....they lost the election and need to shut up! Since Obama's been in office he's actually made government smaller already and will continue to do so, unlike president Bush & Reagan who are the kings of large government. Just stand out of the way so he can finally work on getting us thru this "Great Republican caused Recession of 07-12"
TomasGrande
And if Harry the Barrier hadn't shelved all the House passed bills, they would have improved things (assuming the Looter in Chief didn't veto them)...
You're quite the Liberal vomitus machine... long on blah blah rhetoric and very short on facts and brains...
Tomas,
Really I get paid... TELL me where to sign up to post useless dribble like you, Fiesty and Bev do.. Hell I can copy paste with the best of them. I will gladly do that for more income.
Jobs were part of what the tea party ran on, Most of it was stopping the lefts destruction of this great nation.
Let me give you a little clue here:
1) I have not had TV in my house for almost a year and a half. I cant watch fox news if I wanted to.
2) I dont listen to limpballs, could careless what Rove says, and yes I think we are going down the wrong track here.
3) I blasted Bush left and right each time he wanted to increase the debt limit. I am a foscal conservative.
4) you want to blame the republicans and give the dems a free pass. That makes you a political hack, who more than likely does what he is told, instead of doing your own research.
5) Im for the destruction of America?? Hell no, Im for preserving America, Personal Property, Preserving Liberty, and getting the Gvmnt out of my life. Ya know the things we founded this country on.
IF you knew half of what you think you know, you would be a smart liberal.. as it is now, you are a talking points, do as im told fool...
I do not understand the mentality that more Gvmnt is the answer.. The Gvmnt does not create, it takes. You want to make peoples lives better, let them keep more of their paycheck..
So the democrats blame the republicans for refusing to compromise, and the republicans... blame... Obama... for not doing their job?!?
Does Jindal and the rest of the GOP realize that they look like idiots every time they blame the Executive branch for the failures of the Congressional branch? It's not Obama's job to do this, republicans. Wake up. And weren't congressional Republicans JUST bitching when Obama's immigration plan was leaked, and they were pissed that he DARED to do their job?
Thomas Grande
And if you listen to any progressive/liberal, and you know you preach the same BS, you will hear how the economy and jobs are coming back. So, to me, it looks like the republicans who took back the House in 2010 are doing just what they said.
Why do the clowns on the left get to have everything both ways?
Nothing getting done because of the right.
Things are getting better because of the left.
Nothing getting done because of the right.
Things are getting better because of the left.
Nothing getting done because of the right.
Things are getting better because of the left.
Up Yours.
I'm in the 2% and I have recovered nicely, thank you for your support.
Well, the truth be told!!! Nothing the Republican have done lately have created the needed jobs.
Let's see if I got this straight - the sequester cuts which are a little over 2% of the total annual governmental expenditures are "meat cleaver"? If this is Obama's talking point to the masses, God help us!
If 2% is too much, what pray tell, would he say to what's really nescessary to right the ship. I'm sick of the blame game and all who continue to perpetuate it. This has to be fixed - from people way smarter than are (not) doing the job now. And that's not much of a stretch.
Instead of "kicking the financial can down the road", I suggest we "kick the politicians can down the road" - don't care what party your from.
So, Obama presented a bunch of budget cuts that he thought was so unacceptable that Congress would never let it happen, and Congress is calling his bluff?
So typical.
Blame, deflect, demonize, name-calling, false equivalencies.
Typical for the uninformed, uneducated, un-fact based Faux/Rush listener.
Sorry, but I believe it's the Democrat party that stands up for our Constitution. It's the Democrat party that knows Government has a vital role in preserving our "Right to Pursue Happiness". Democrats know their needs to be a balance between government and the private sector.
Republicans just want to live in a Fascist, Corporation based society with no chance for upward mobility, no chance for economic properity. Basically modern day slavery is what the Republicans advocate.
Democrats on the other hand, embrace our Freedoms, and advocate fairness and equality for all. Providing a ballanced approach in all aspect of life so that even the poorest of poor can move up and succeed. Unfortuantly, Republican polices and practices prevent that as they advocate a two-class society of the uber wealthy enslaving the rest.
That's not freedom. Corporations dominating people's lives, treating them like dirt is not freedom at all. I'm a Democrat because democrats support the little guy, support small businesses, and most of all, suppor individual rights and freedoms for all Americans.
House bill you THINK had jobs programs in them is yet another RW media lie as well.
I think I've pointed out very clearly to sane, intelligent, fact-based readers on this website the damage the RW media has caused this nation by perpetuating lies to their listeners, by perpetuating mythical talking points parroted by RW bloggers, and constantly demonizing our government and American way of life.
Sorry you think our Government is taking away your rights. That also, is a RW media lie. If you want our government out of your life, then do this nation a favor and move away.
Problem solved.
Salud
We have GOT to cut back, no doubt about it. Also, I think it is stupid to have Obama's wife, the first lady, on the Acadamy Awards. Excuse me, they are supposed to be running the country, not acting like movie stars. Obama and his wife hanging around movie stars and people like Jay-Z, just looks bad. Of course the President doesn't want to cut back, he wants to ride the high life..............................
I've had enough. Let it go to sequestration.
Jeremy...lots of #'s
1. Glad you don't watch Fox or MSNBC. Glad you don't listen to Limbaugh. Hope you don't listen to Hannity OR Beck..But that can Only mean you get your "facts" from TEA leafs. Or Rand Paul. Sick.
2. And When do You think (?) we were going down the "Right Path"? What year?
3. As for "blasting" Bush, you had * Long years to do that. NOW you should be Blasting the "TeaParty"As they are the New Koch Brothers Terrorist (minnows all)
4. I WAS a 25+ year Republican up until Bush's reign of terror AND the Teabag trash took over the GOP.
5.So you want "Gvmnt" Out of your life? So no education for your kids, grand kids! No fire/police department to call! No advancements in Medicine! No Hospitals! No roads or interstates! No power grid! No Pipe lines! No food safety! No clean air!
WOW...maybe you should take yer Teabags and go to Zimbabwe OR ???
You Won't be missed.
Taxpayers to Obama: GO F*CK YOURSELF!!
Lets see, there are no actual cuts to anything, only a reduction in growth. And if this happens we are basically going to see the end of the world.
Wow, can't wait to see what happens when we actually have to cut spending because the Gov can't pay its bills.
Compromise: Tax increases at the end of 2012, and spending cuts in March of 2013.
I think that is the definition of compromise.
One more question to the Dems, I thought taxing the rich was going to solve all of our problems, and yet you want more taxes, but who do you want to pay them? The rich again?
The PRESIDENT's wife (the derogatory terms used for President Obama in some of these posts is apalling) is NOT a paid employee of this country so can hang out with whomeer she wants and YOU have nothing to say about it.
On the issue at hand - Romney ran on a platform of closing loopholes to gain the revenue needed for the spending cuts he proposed, but now that the Democrats want to do the same, the Republican's object?? Why??
The sequester was developed to encourage Congress to look for the custs they WANT to replace the ones that will automatically happen if they DID NOTHING. They chose to do nothing, and now the people that are displaced will need to deal - innocent people who have done nothing wrong but put up with this circus.. And it will hurt the economy, just as the rise in the payroll tax has hurt the economy. Again, I do not believe Congress cares anything about the people, they only care about their political stance. That anyone could blame their lack of responsibility on the President is beyond reason.
@ TomasGrande 1.36
So an increase of historic preportions to the food stamp and welfare programs to those that perpetuate the "democratic point of view" would be called what?
So that's why what I've worked for is mine until you think it's unfair. At that point, what's mine should be yours too?
Thanks, I'd just as soon stay and fight instead of run, or did you miss that whole Revolutionary War thing?
Rose colored glasses, anyone?
Shar - "On the issue at hand - Romney ran on a platform of closing loopholes to gain the revenue needed for the spending cuts he proposed, but now that the Democrats want to do the same, the Republican's object?? Why??"
You can't be that ignorant can you? PBO ran on the platform of raising taxes on the rich and a balanced approach to balance the budget, Guess what HE GOT THE TAX INCREASED PASSED and no CUTS have happened. And now he just wants more Taxes. You don't see how he is being a hypocrite?
Job1...
Like obama had any plans to stimulate private sector growth since 2009.
Obamacare? Long term, maybe in the healthcare industry. Public sector growth to ensure compliance. All in all, probably just a wash.
Dodd-franks? One size fits all to define what is "to big to fail". Of course, since banks require better balance sheets, they will be unlikely to approve loans withour a stellar credit rating and sizeable down payment. Not a bad thing for the long term, but hardly a jump start in immediate job growth.
2009 stimulas? LOL! All those shovel ready jobs being thrown under the bus so that the private sector continues to fund the public sector.
Investments in education, R&D etc.? All well and good in a fast growing economy because they are all long term endeavors... but as a junp start for job growth, not hardly.
Interesting on how obama and company decided that the only input they asked of the right was "they embraced some of my ideas in the past" Come on mr president, not having the congressional minority leaders over for a WH sitdown untill after the stimulas, obamacare and financial reform were either already passed or not even needing bipartisan support beyond 2 votes?
Pretty much explains the results of the 2010 midterms.
and yet Obama was re-elected... kind of shoots your 2010 BULLS HIT full of holes, eh?
Maybe we need to quit spending $600 billion per year to feed a military monster that is supposed to defend our nation-- or even the world (gasp!)-- from loosely organized tribes of tent-dwelling goat-herders armed only with primitive weapons who, somehow, will destroy the entire planet if we don't keep dropping bombs on their caves. Or, alternatively, a military that must be ever-ready to fight a bogey man named "China" whose achievement of First World economic status, and whose acquisition of one small aircraft carrier, is also, somehow, a threat to the existence of planet Earth-- or at the very least, the only nation on the planet that has any right to prosperity and military security (ahem!). Yes, maybe that's where the big, deep cuts need to be made-- permanently.
But the Republican Party and its supporting ilk think that this military spending is far more important and morally justifiable than, say, paying retired and disabled people the benefits that they and their families paid for before retirement or disability; more important and morally justifiable than feeding grossly underpaid employees and their families with food stamps or providing them with medical care; more important and morally justifiable than investing in education (except education geared toward engineering more military weapons, perhaps); and more important and morally justifiable than anything else that preserves life or provides anyone with a chance to improve the quality thereof. At least, that's what the Republican Party thinks, along with the army of useful idiots who put them in office and dream of turning the United States of America into a modern day Sparta.
Now go ahead and call me a Liberal and a Socialist if you want, 'cause guess what? I am, and I am. ;-)
yes...both parties are to blame for partisan politics...
they have both forgotten they are there for us, not their respective party !
and our president, the one that only 53% wanted, continues to campaign instead of leading !
if mr obama would spend more time in d.c. trying to resolve differences, as the leader of the entire country should...
maybe...just maybe...more would get accomplished for all of us, not just the 53% ! ! !
Sure he was reelected, fork in it....by those receiving all kinds of handouts from Obama. But, what will they do when the well runs dry.....can't keep printing worthless money or borrowing from China forever. Of course, Obama voters are generally not bright enough to grasp that.
J.P. You forgot about paying for the servicing on the debt? Were doesn't that fit into your little utopian world? You know the interest on 16 trillion and going up fast dollars?
Sorry I forgot you Liberal Socialists aren't very good at Math.
Jeremy, if all you can do is misquote or quote out of context, best not to quote at all.
The President and Ms. Pelosi did not, in fact, say what you have attributed to them.
Your points are badly researched and are wrong. If you would read something other than the Fox News line, you might have a better understanding of what is really going on.
Many of you need to learn history or you are doomed to repeat it..
If its not the lefts point of view then its wrong huh? Look at Greece and what the liberal agenda created there. With an overpowering Gvmnt involved in everyones daily life... Instead of just doing their job.
Do some of your own research, and LOOK at how much this Gvmnt brings in a day in taxes... Spends a day in " operational " costs.. Look at how much waste we have in the Gvmnt.. Its shameful, and you want more Gvmnt control..
This country is going to hell in a hand basket very quickly.. It starts and stops with the Gvmnt. Before the Gvmnt can do anything in your Utopian society, it has to take it from someone else. Sorry we are a country that was founded due to improper taxation, and an oppressive Gvmnt. That is the last thing I want to go back to.
You are nowhere near the truth. Check your facts on sequestration before you open your mouth and spout crud. Sequestration was a congressional deal to raise the debt ceiling. The only part the POTUS played in it was to sign it after congress passed it. Obama simply asked for an increase in the debt ceiling so the government did not default on its bills.
You want to place some blame; talk to the republicans that insisted on sequestration as a compromise to allow the increase in our debt ceiling.
If you replace Republican with Libertarian you would be correct.
Because McCain and whole lot of other Repubs would sell your freedom for a senate seat in a heartbeat.
Try looking at what is really going on its a war between Obama and his socialist versus the American people and Obama is holding us all hostage he just got his tax increase a few weeks ago and he has us set up again for another, the Republicans are fighting for America and Obama is fighting for his Fathers dream and the Stupid liberals think they will benefit from this while in the long run America will lose, wake up people we just went through this and it was Obamas way or the highway now he is doing it again there is no end to it he stacked the deck and he is going to take us down. this man is destroying America and its future open your eyes. how can any one say the republicans wont compromise when that's all they do. Obama will guarantee your children that they will live in a third world country, now about the hundreds of billions of dollars he plans on funneling out of America to the UN where do you think it will come from. its not Berry we need to worry about its Berry and his Fathers dream. People save yourselves and stop supporting this mad Ideology.
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Mine are wrong.. Google it.. I dare you.. She point blank said, we have to pass it to find out what is in it... When she was talking about the ACA.. Wow.. unbelievable.
Where have Obama and the democrats compromised? He got his tax hikes so where are the cuts in the runaway government spending? Hell he wants more government revenue to spend with increased revenues by closing tax loop holes without any spending cuts. Obama DOSE NOT know the meaning of compromise. He puts out his agenda and then when congress doesn't go along he turns to the liberal media to attempt to sway public opinion to his side. That is not compromise or leadership. Now he is trying to stiff arm the governors. I hope they have to balls to tell him NO.
J.P. Dogly
Republicans are an army of idiots, huh? You wanna talk stupidity among you socialistic liberals?!?!
President Obama ordered the cabinet to cut $100,000,000.00 ($100 million) from the $3,500,000,000,000.00 ($3.5 trillion) federal budget.
I'm so impressed by this sacrifice that I have decided to do the same thing with my personal budget. I spend about $2,000 a month on groceries, household expenses, medicine, utilities, etc., but it's time to get out the budget cutting axe, go through my expenses, and cut back.
I'm going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio (1/35,000) of my total budget. After doing the math, it looks like instead of spending $2,000 a month, I'm going to have to cut that number by six cents. Yes, I'm going to have to get by with $1999.94, but that's what sacrifice is all about.
I'll just have to do without some things, that are, frankly, luxuries, six cents worth.
Did this President actually think no one would do the math? Now this is stupidity at its finest. The logic of a liberals is comical. Now, YOU, a liberal, are going to sit there and criticize the Tea Party for calling upon fiscal responsibility to reduce the deficit and the outrageous government spending.
Absolutely amazing. I have always said, the logic of the liberals is absolutely ridiculous. I compare it to a little child that wants everything but does not comprehend how mommy and daddy have to work to provide little Timmy with his candy and toys.....You liberals will cripple this nation and YOU will be the cause of our economic collapse.
Thomas, you are nothing more than a double talking hypocrite, just like the man in the whitehouse that you call a president.
Just WHO'S polls are you referring to? Those printed in the MSM? Have you actually talked with anyone lately? Everyone I talk to is sick and tired of this and most of the last several administrations for the NEVER ENDING SPENDING that they are doing.
THE SPENDING MUST STOP SOMETIME. It can either be with purpose or it can be a CRASH. I can guarantee you that those that are actually in power WANT THE CRASH. Then they can finish the job of making slaves out of the rest of us.
Think, man, THINK FOR YOURSELF instead of what the MSM tells you to think.
Hey funk Please read. (Make sure you get to page 2)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/22/sequestration-was-obamas-idea-in-the-first-place/
Wow, just wow......
Now the non-leader Mr. "Drama" Obama is asking the States to go after our "elite" Congressional Representatives to do something about the sequestration (of course the Progressive PLAN).
Yep, Mr. "Drama" Obama said he couldn't get anything done out of the Oval Office. The answer is simple: NO LEADERSHIP SKILLS. Another attribute for a Heeeerverd graduate.
That is what 51% of Americans did: re-elected a community organizer back into office.
Corky, you sample was a very good point, but also wrong.
We are not cutting spending, we are cutting the growth of spending.
In your example you spend 2K a month, but this year were thinking of raising it to 2.1K.
But you have now been forced to cut 8% of that $100, so instead of spending 2.1K, you only get to spend $2,092.
Which of course isn't a cut at all only a reduction to the growth of your spending.
And of course I would hope you act appropriately and run around screaming THE END IS NEAR at the top of your lungs.
"Cuts need to be made". This is what we hear and yet nothing is said about "taxes need to be raised". The debt should have been paid down, instead conservatives decided a huge tax cut was in store for the wealthy at the same time as massive outlays for "homeland" security and defense, doubling the debt. For a parting shot this undermining of the economic security of the middle class was sacrificed for wall street in the largest recession since 1930. The debt exists, but by only insisting that government spends too much, the cons ignore their messing with the tax code so that government doesn't earn enough. They may see government as too intrusive, but I say they want government out of the way so the "free market" is free to pursue the next greedy calamity. It sure seems these corporate masters love recessions, it is so handy for extracting from working class people what they desire, less wages, less benefits, less education, less retirement, less options, less say in the running of this country.
my2centsworth-
Thanks for confirming my point on the RW media's perpetuating lies that you repeated.
Apparently, you have not been told by the RW media what Democrats stand for. I'm sure they have TOLD you what they WANT you to THINK what Democrats stand for.
Here's a clue. Democrats support raising the Minimum wage so people don't have to depend on welfare. Democrats support Unions so that the average "Joe" can make a decent wage, buy a home, send his kids to college, and prepare for retirement.
Democrats advocate equal pay for women so that they can earn a fair wage to support their families without the aid of government programs. Democrats support inexpensive Student Loans, so kids can go to college, earn degrees, so they can live on their own without Government support.
On and on Democrats support regualations and laws that in-fact EMPOWER the poor and middle class to live their lives free from govenment help ONCE they can.
BTW, why don't you ask the question "Why are so many people on food stamps today?" Did it occur to you that the economy tanked, and many people (especially in the construction industry) have yet to find jobs or even EQUIVALENT salary jobs to support themselves and their families?
Do you think they should starve? Do you think it's their fault that they lost their jobs? You see your RW media keeps telling YOU that DEMOCRATS, and DEMOCRATS only are loafers, freeloaders, etc. and YOU buy into it hook, line and sinker.
Because YOU want to believe it.
I thought it is just natural for fellow Americans to help out our fellow Americans when times are tough. I thought it is 100% American to be compasionate towards our fellow human beings. My religion, Presbyterian, teaches us to be compasionate and caring just like our Heavenly Father and his son was.
I thought George W. Bush talked about "Compasionate Conservativism" and I thought Republicans were compasionate too.
But apparently those days for Republicans are over, thanks to Faux and Rush putting down those people and blaming Democrats.
I guess I am still warering those Rose Colored Glasses, because I remember an American when that was the norm. Not like this apocalyptic Hell-hole the RW media, GWB and the Tea Party has created over the last 12 years.
So keep your stuff, 2 cents. Keep all your stuff to yourself.
And while your at it, keep blaming those Democrats. That's what a good, Faux sNewzzzzz listener would do.
Salud
Obama reminds me of my ex-wife, (sorry ladies, she was really bad) She kept campaigning that she be allowed to handle the household finances back when we were first married. i thought what the hell, because I wasn't that good at that game anyway. So the years go by and I notice more and more often that we are behind in bills, the credit cards are maxed out and she is applying for more, and the savings account is empty. Meanwhile her closet contains more clothes than is decent for anyone, she wears the finest perfumes and her jewelry is the talk of all of her friends. The kids are wearing a different pair of shoes all the time, and the most expensive clothes in town. The tires on the car have to wait another 2 months, dinner is kraft mac and cheese and hotdogs. Finally one day we are so far in debt that we have to see a credit counselor. The mortgage is so far behind that we are looking foreclosure in the face. I have begged her for years to quit spending every dime I make and borrowing against the money I make next month, and she just keeps on rocking right on down the aisle. I do everything I can to convince her that this is wrong. She does everything she can to convince me that she needs to do this. She lies and weedles at every turn, she actually became downright nasty and intolerable at one point, with threats and even went so far as to call the police because I would not hand over the only credit cards that were not maxed, and allow her to spend us into the poorhouse. So, I cancel the credit cards that I can control, open a new bank account, and move into my own place, and file for divorce. She has been fired and can have her own financial mess. Even I who is no great shakes at taking care of a budget knows when you can afford something and when you can't. I divorced the thief in my house when I needed to. We now need to divorce the thief in our whitehouse. He reminds me of my ex wife.
I think American business, a hard working citizenry and a free market created the middle class, not the politicians. I cannot believe the level of delusion that passes itself and 'being informed.' And then you have the audacity to post such piffle on a public forum.
Government is the problem, not the solution. It is becoming so tiresome to keep hearing that because Republicans want to dismantle an inefficient government it means they only care for the rich. Nearly 50% of the nation votes republican. Certainly you don't think 50% of voters are rich people? In this anemic economy? Spare us the demogoguery.
Lots of blame to go around for everyone. Obama's people got the sequester put in place. Democrats got their tax increase on those wage earners over 400K. (Notice the wording wage earners). Taxes on investment income only went up 5% from 15% to 20% in the cliff deal. Could this be so Warren Buffet will still pay a lesser percentage than his secretary in taxes? (Topic for another discussion).
What I find rather amusing is Obama's answers to Jindal always NO. I thought the republicans were to be the party of No.
I guess that is how Obama plays both sides of the fence.
Oblama is over his head. He knows nothing about economics, because he has never had to work for a living or manage any type of a company or employees. All he wants to do is spend (look at the last 5 years if you doubt this).
His leadership skills are non-existent. Will forever be know as the great divider. Now, he is paying for this lack of knowledge, but unfortunately so are we.
liberals steal your money
Nice cut and paste job.
Typical for an unAmerican RW troll.
Salud
TomasGrande, You are a Communist Democrat POC. It's the Democrats that are taking the very morals and values that this country was built on. It's people like you that need to be kicked out of America because you are NOT what America was intended to be. Take your Democratic Communist party and leave our country. I hate all of you Communist Democrats. You have screwed this country up for my children and grandchildren. Oh yea, take that Communist President with you and Moochelle also.
Pat in SoCal..........if your going to be a party hack at least keep up with current events. Taxes WERE raised before the end of the year.
So who is most responsible for the idea of sequestration?
2013-02-20 The other day, Montana Democrat Sen. Max Baucus said of
the sequester, “the White House recommended it, frankly.”Senator Max Baucus (D., Mont.) admitted to the local CBS station in Billings, Mont., that President Obama bears responsibility for the
sequester: “The president’s part of the sequester. The White House recommended
it, frankly, back in August 2011. And so now we’re feeling the effects of it.
Also in 2011, Joe Biden said the sequester was the overwhelming redeeming feature of the fiscal deal.
Woodward reports in his book that White House Office of Management Director Jack Lew and
Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors took the proposal for sequestration to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and then it was presented to congressional Republicans.
(Monday, November 21, 2011) President Barack Obama says he will veto any effort to get rid of automatic spending cuts that would take effect in 2013 if Congress can't find other ways of trimming government
deficits. Those spending cuts include significant reductions to the Pentagon that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said would be devastating to the military. Obama issued his threat Monday an hour after leaders of Congress' deficit-reduction super-committee announced that they had failed to reach agreement on cutting the debt. The inability of the committee to meet its deadline means the government is facing about $1.2 trillion in automatic cuts in January 2013.
BO wanted it (Ask Mr. Lew and Mr. Baucus, and Mr. Woodward), BO wanted it, BO signed it, in 2011 BO
threatened to VETO any bill to reduce it, BO owns it!
All Obama wants is to spend more... Expand government. These cuts are chump change. EVERY company in the US has faced the task of cutting twice this much to cover the increased burden of our ever expanding federal government. For the private sector this has happened every year for the last 20 years... For government it hasn't happened once...
When is Obama gonna stand up like a leader and do his job administering a budget (oh yeah he hasn't put one forward in his presidency) - when is this guy gonna lead?
Meanwhile the liberal press endorses the notion the sky is falling....
He is not attempting to pull the US out of the toilet he is attempting to flush it, do you liberals have any common sense at all, any, Obama just put us through this s#it and now he is doing it again I say Impeach the man he is not working for us he is on his own agenda and its a bad direction for America, you people are brainwashed or something to follow this mad man. what will it take for you to see will you have to read it in a history book while sitting under a bridge that will be a home to you and a dozen other people? this is a baaaad baaaad thing, Obama needs to work for the people not his agenda to bust capitalism, you ruin that and its all over that is what makes the world tick that is what made America great. Obamas Father hated it and Obama thinks the Government should have total control of it sound familiar its called Communism, don't let it happen to you. who is running Obama Bill Ayers, Frank Marshal Davis, he has a list of Communist activist behind his life that the Carl Marx, Lennon and Stalin would have been proud to entertain, Obama is leading us down a road that we may not be able to return by, and its not taking us where we need to be. the world can not live in a dream, at some time you have to wake up and see what is real.
When are is enough tax increases enough?
2013 Tax Changes INCREASES
Individual’s income more than $400,000. The marginal tax rate rose from 35% to 39.6%. Married couples income more than $450,000. The marginal tax rate rose from 35% to 39.6%.The tax rate on capital gains and dividends moved from 15% to 20%. Limits on itemized deductions were reinstated for
households and individuals with income over $300,000 and $250,000, respectively.
The payroll tax withholding for Social Security by 2 percentage points on income up to $113,700 rose from $110,000, so all workers paying that tax face some loss of disposable income.
Other 2013 tax changes have been implemented as a result of the Obama-Care Act. They include:
The Medicare hospital tax increased by 0.9% on wages over $250,000 (for a
household) or $200,000 (for an individual). A new 3.8% tax on investment income (including interest, dividends, royalties, rents and capital gains) also impacts households and individuals with incomes over
$250,000 and $200,000, respectively. The medical expense tax-deduction threshold changed from 7.5% to 10%, meaning those who spend 10% or more of their gross income on medical expenses can claim
the amount as a tax deduction. Those turning 65 within the next four years can use the 7.5% threshold through 2017.
Shar J: your comment up there in 1.42 is questionable. Did you not know that the president's cowbelle DOES GET PAID for the things she does? Get a life and learn a little....cause she is paid to do extra-curricular duties. IE speaking at college graduations, making commercials, PSAs etc. And don't forget, after all that, we the taxpayers are still supporting her lavish lifestyle -- the thousands of dollars spent at Victoria's Secrets, etc, etc.
Chris, thank you, you get it quite well. Personally, I think the plan is to take us straight down the hopper, swirling optional.
Don-313038
There you have it.
Hatred, Rascism, Paranoia, and psychotic Narcissism all rolled into one.
Welcome to Don's America!!!
My guess is you are seeing a whole team of psychologists.
Salud
TomasGrande
Well thought out. Sequestration was Obama's idea. He owns it and he needs to figure it out. Republicans really don't need to do a thing except laugh. The fact even with the cuts we will still spend more this year than last year and the $85 billion is just a partial cut in the increase the budget presents. If this is going to shut the government down then so be it. The longer it stays down the less we spend. This is a panic caused by people with little minds.
How about if we take away the President's private plane. We can book him one American Airlines.
Stop a minute - think about this
There is NO Budget - and the deadline for the government to shut down without one - is in just a few weeks
That means - total shutdown - not just this little piece Obama is hyping and inducing fear on
Does he really think the American people are that stupid to not realize this? (Yes he does)
Those crying about this sequester - have got to feel really stupid - knowing this
The American people have either joined Barack's incompententcy or turned 100% stupid
You can not - spell Liberal - without A Lie
People to Obama>>>> CUT CUT CUT. its time to stop the spending!!!!!
Marcus... brilliant!
I thought it is just natural for fellow Americans to help out our fellow Americans when times are tough. I thought it is 100% American to be compasionate towards our fellow human beings. My religion, Presbyterian, teaches us to be compasionate and caring just like our Heavenly Father and his son was.
How is it morally ok for the government to forcibly take from one citizen to give to another? Why can't people help each other out without being forced to by the government? I don't need the government to tell me to help my neighbor and you shouldn't either. Government aid always has unintended consequences. Inexpensive student loans from the government have actually driven up the price of college tuition. Sure the government will give students the money to go but how is it helping them to start our their lives with potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt? By artificially stimulating demand the government has made tuition prices almost unaffordable unless you want help from the government. Liberty is the best way to lift people up, not more government.
1.2 trillion in 10 years is a drop in the bucket.
CUT SPENDING !!!!!!!!!!
400 billion in cuts and spending freeze tied to inflation for next 6 years for entitlement programs
So the President wants to preach to a group of adults, many of whom that have owned and operated their own businesses and certainly managed businesses, that it is time to start taking leadership responsibility and start governing. Wow, really! I'm suprised all 50 governors didn't get up and walk out.
400 Billion per year sorry I should have been more clear.
Ave Joe,
The party hacks were the ones who deliberately cut taxes and increased spending,crashed the economy, and then decided the people hardest hit by the recession should pay and blamed the President for not cleaning up their mess. Taxes, if anything, are back to rates from ten years ago. The real party hacks are not going after the ones who benefited from tinkle down only the ones who were adversely impacted by Republican economic policies. The rich are still rich, the poor are poorer, follow the money.
Let me know if the "King of Sling" ever really steps to the plate instead of calling for a pinch hitter.
@ TomasGrande 1.66
I don't believe you will find a RW lie in any of my statements. They are all facts. Sorry you don't see it that way but those rose colored glasses will do that to you!
I don't need anyone to tell me what to think - it's as plain as the nose holding up them glasses. All you have to do is open your eyes to see what's really happening.
They also support Utopia. I'm all for people making more money. What don't you get about the idea that if I'm forced to pay more in wages, I'm also likely forced to reduce my workforce in order to do it. What don' t you get about giving small business incentives to succeed instead of penalizing them by taking more money from them to fund another gov't program that has yet to be effective at anything and when that doesn't work, let's do more of the same.
So why are we not focusing like a laser on Jobs for people instead of continuing to take from the business in this country still propping up whatever economy is left? Did it ever occur to you that if the same money spent on "Stimulus" was directed at our crumbling infrastructure, there just might be a few more people with jobs that mean something to everyone? Did it ever occur to you that if people have jobs, much of our ills like food stamp dependency, home foreclosures, unaffordable (or non-existant) health care, lack of college savings all are diminished if one has a job? This administrations answer is directed at the symptom instead of the problem.
I don't disagree with you here. The problem I see in your post is that your answer to all problems lies with the gov't instead of the people. If anything happens, it's the gov'ts job to bail us out. If you want to talk about believing what they want you to, well there you have it. You know - teach em how to fish instead of continually giving them a fish? Problem is there are too many on dependency that have no intention of getting a job - why should they. But I get to keep paying for their stuff while they always seem to have money for smokes, beer, lotto tickets, the latest tennis shoes - you get the idea. If that doesn't piss you off, I'll never understand you.
Unions? There was a time they were relevant - no more. Worked for a company and saw it everyday. It discouraged risk taking, and hard work yet encouraged laziness and unaccountability. It fosters and perpetuates a sense of entitlement because you cannot under most circumstances fire the lazy jerk for not doing his job. Do you know how many times I heard "slow down- you're making the rest of us look bad".
And finally, if you re-read my post you will see the last thing I said was "don't care what party you're from" (BOTH parties are guilty of doing nothing to fix the problem)
If we can't slow the growth of the federal government - just a little - it's an indicator there's no intention to slow it at all. The 'plea' that the drunk needs more time to taper off - sometime in the future - is the drunk trying to buy more drinking time. The prescribed treatment is in-patient rehab with round the clock supervision. Don't plan on sobriety anytime soon. Relapse regarding a case this severe should be fully expected. Plans to implement further treatment should be put in place immediately following the intervention and patient commitment process. It should be understood that pattern indicators suggest this patient may require long term care.
Gjalt (1.68), in the 50's there was a reason government taxes used to be as high as 90%. When I was growing up, my father would grouse about the high taxes and because of it, he chose not to take a high salary because he knew that he would lose most of it to taxes. Instead he grew his business. He said he was doing this to pass along the added value of his business to his heirs as the inheritance tax was much lighter and allowed a good amount to be excluded from tax. Since he was aiming for the long run, he hired good people and paid them well to retain them. His goal was long term because taxes were so high.
Forward to today. Because taxes are so low, the wealthy have little reason to grow their business or hire good people when all they have to do is maximize profits and sell it to get long term capital gains, or strip the value out of the business and allow it to go bankrupt. If you can take home millions in one year and call it quits (retiring), why would you care want to have a small salary and work for years dealing with employees and the threat of rising taxes?
This short sighted goal of immediate profits is because the tax laws were rigged to benefit the wealthy and those with means. That's why the wealthy have become wealthier while the middle class and working class has gotten poorer. There is no incentive for the wealthy to grow their business when they can just have their rewards now.
Just think, if Bush and his administration would not have put HIS two wars on America's credit cards, we wouldn't be where we are.
Didn't the republican leader Limbaugh say something to the effect of; "if we have to destroy the economy to destroy Obama, than lets go forward?"
I hope and pray this blows up so badly in the republicans face, they'll end up uglier than they are now, and will be scared for life!!
Chris-382117, #1.2- Great post! And you're asking "so what do you think we should do?" AND, after reading your post, I just wanted to ask you "so what do you think we should do?" (Seroiusly, not facetiously) This whole thing just seems like one more in a long line of the same thing that's been going on for far too long now to even really be able to follow and TRUST what we're being told is going on.
Last I knew, a lot of Federal Funding for ongoing programs was determined by whomever was receiving the funding being able to show that they spent, and so needed, the same amount as the previous year. These Agencies, Inc and supposed "not for profits" with their hidden "private sector" make-ups take the majority of the resources and do bogus "numbers" counting and fudging to make sure they come out needing the same amount, if not more, at renewal time. (and consequently, the one who the funds were intended for don't improve or learn or whatever, etc) It seems like they could easily take an across-the-board cut, but would have to "change their ways", if you will. IE, I used to teach Nutrition to Low Income Families for the Cooperative Extension and all I really HAD TO DO was recruit, recruit, recruit and mark on a paper every time I came into contact with anybody, each day. (KEEP THE NUMBERS UP!) I had very little time to actually go to Clients' homes and actually work with them. Recently, an Agency for the Developmentally Disabled ended their year with a surplus in the "Emergency Fund" so they had all the buildings that THEY OWN power washed and hired teams of multiple "Leaf Blowers" to clean up the properties to use up the "Emergency Funds" so they could get MORE. (The only "REAL" Employees known as "Staff People" haven't had a raise in years and have had their hours WITH CLIENTS cut back but "Administratively" all had managed a 4% bump in their SALARIES) AND, the Clients that the funds are suppose to be intended for get their actual services that they receive CUT, nobody does as well as they could be doing, INCLUDING businesses of "The Public" that these Clients are not being taken out into the Community to participate in, INCLUDING SPENDING. (and that's because these Agencies also have Clients' own "spending" money tied up or actually given away to Relatives so these Agencies can purport to be needing to supply that for the Clients, and build it into the charge to the Federal Government, as well). Same for the Homeless. $25,000 per year to keep one single Homeless Person homeless. I'm pretty sure that that is even more than the poverty level for a whole Family of 3 or 4! How about the Government getting billed $170,000 (the lowest on the scale) for one single Developmentally Disabled Person for one year and it now includes having had "Staff" for personal time, recreation and community integration and grocery shopping along with mileage reimbursement to the Staff Person cut away? THESE ARE REAL FIGURES! Unfortunately, the Government is not and has not enforced regulations around these kinds of "financial" practices with Human Beings as "Commodities of Profit" and only perpetuates it. This is the TOXIC model to every aspect of life today. GIVE 'EM WHAT THEY WANT. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO MAKE CUTS.
CUT PRIVATE SECTOR "BUSINESS" PRACTICES AND "CORPORATE" MODELS OUT OF GOVERNMENT and we could CUT a hell of a lot more than 10%. One of my favorite Writers is all about "CONTRACTION-CONTRACTION-CONTRACTION!" LET'S CONTRACT! (Contract "FOR", not with America?)
I'm sure all the "Defense" stuff is not a lot different. Cut more than 10% and just make sure to cut it away from the "Private Sector Partnership" element of it all and it seems like we'll be fine and may actually get some real things accomplished!
No Chris, we're suggesting we drastically cut the social safety net at the same time we slash the annual budget by 13% across the board resulting in massive federal and state government layoffs. That should cause an unprecedented crash in the stock market based on cancelled contracts, no confidence in government and massive private sector layoffs. Without a safety net that should result in riots...insurrection and revolution. As it will no doubt be seen as a failure of capitalism I would expect the revolution to be communist in nature...not a good day for the wealthy.
But I'm sure you expect a much brighter result...right? But wait it gets better. How about a global economic meltdown based on the collapsed US economy. Now you have a worldwide "Mad Max" economy that would make the Zombi Apocalypse look desirable. Have a nice day.
ALL the wars are on the books and at a total cost of 1.4 trillion over 11+ years.
CUT spending by 400 billion a year and freeze entitlement programs to rate of inflation.
liberals steal your money
Tell me steal...do you actually know the difference between the truth and a lie? I understand how your party operates, but do you personally know the difference?
I served this country for over 20 years in uniform. What have you don't for the country?
Hopefully he's not looking for help from Scott Walker of Wisconsin. There has to be compromise but that isn't a word Scott likes to use.
I am sure that he will have better luck with Jan Brewer of Arizona.
Is Obama really that full of himself that he thinks successful governors running successful state governments are going to listen to ANYTHING Obama says when it comes to budgets and revenues and quality leadership? That's funny.
Hat's off to the governors for having to sit through that mindless "speech" and act respectful.
Governors to Obama..... "Stay OUT of our states"
I wish Obama and Congress was as concerned with $16 Trillion in debt and building a business growth friendly economy as they are $85 Billion on the sequester table
"The No. 1 risk, in my view, to the continuing economic comeback of Michigan is the federal government," Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, a Republican and former business executive, said in an interview. Snyder said many companies remain in limbo on whether to invest in their business because of the financial uncertainty.
All I know is, if Obama wants it, that's all I need to know it needs to be fought against. obviously there are some other "liberal" causes that will be severely damaged and that's a good thing.
There's your evidence that the sequester wasn't Obama's idea. If he supported it, Republicans never would have voted for it.
Has anyone else become weary of all the bullchit and Grand standing, nothing is going to happen, just like always, at the last minute republicans in Congress will kick the can down the road a couple more months so they can get back in the news and do this fiscal cliff crap all over again and again.
It is clear, the obstructionism to make Obama a one term president did not work, so the new strategy for republicans is to stall and try to run out the clock without getting anything meaningful done......If republicans do not come to their senses and get the people's work done they may be looking at near extinction in 2014..
clotho - just another low info voter.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/22/sequestration-was-obamas-idea-in-the-first-place/
"Cuts only" won't work and will lead to a double dip.
Obama wants cuts and revenues, Republicans are against revenues because they need an excuse to cut entitlements.
Well we've tried "spending only" for years and it's been an abysmal failure.... hence the Tea Party growth in the House... we did the tax increases Oblunder grandstanded for... now, where are the Looter in Chief's cuts? Guess "balanced" means raping the rich AND the middle class....
I see the left is out spewing the same old non-facts they get from MSNBC. Once again the B.S. meter is pegged.
Obama is a great president! It is so sad that the right wing just can't take it. We win elections and the hearts of the majority. What do they have? A minority of back woods idiots who vote in the midterm elections like its a religion. Oh yeah, they have the lord too! Lord of darkness.
God Bless Obama!!!!
i am a woman and capitalize way too much,
Love the Walker. Would love to see him run for President some day. He sure made my state of Wisconsin a better place. Took all the power out of the state worker's union. Parasites!
Daniel,
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed there are you Daniel? The Congressional 2010 midterm and 2012 elections were won by the Republicans. What does that tell you Einstein? It tells me that Republicans won more Congressional districts than the Democrats did. Those back woods idiots are a lot bigger number than I guess you imagined eh Daniel? What would you have an elected Republican Congressman do Daniel? His constituency voted him into office on the platform that he wants to reduce the size of government. Should he turn his back on his voters and go right along with the big eared, jug headed, idiot in the White House?
We just raised taxes. Let's cut spending. Acording to Obobo, he just raised taxes by how many hundreds of billions, without double dipping, but cutting $85 Billion will cause it? I believe spending this year is up about $100 billion more than the previous year, so cutting 85 will still mean we spent more than the previous year, but the result will be a recession, yeah I believe him. He's getting his info from the same economists who told him that unemployment would drop to less than 8% with the stimulus, yet it remained above 10%. These are the same economist who told him the economy would recover quickly, and that we have recovered.
Yeah, I believe him
What makes you think some of these governers are doing such a swell job. I have lived in a couple of different states oer the past couple of years. They are both screwed up!
Eric - "
"Cuts only" won't work and will lead to a double dip.
Obama wants cuts and revenues, Republicans are against revenues because they need an excuse to cut entitlements."
I forgot what happened at the end of 2012 again? Were there Income Tax increases on the Rich? Were there capital Gain tax increases on the rich (Obamacare), were the SS tax holiday allowed to expire on all?
and there were NO CUTS to anything? Still waiting for PBO's cuts, that don't include the wars ending.
Hmmm...
Obama promoted the sequester, he approved the sequester and throughout 2012 he ignored the sequester and anything to do with the 2013 financial cliff.
Not only that, he thinks that effective legislation can be done over the telephone with no face time and that if he paints a horrable enough picture that the populace will insist on having legislation immediately passed.
What a guy, afraid to negotiate face to face and always insisting that the 1% pays. Now he wants to kick the can down the road again. Come on obama, the sequester is in your court, as the executive you get to decide how best to i,mpliment the sequester. Show us what you have...
Tom of plymouth...
Jan 1 2013 saw those making $400k or more have their tax rates go back to what they paid under clinton. Those making over $250k also saw about a 3.6% tax increase above and beyond the bush tax cuts. Actual IRS data indicates that the top 5% of those paying federal income tax are the main contributors to our federal income tax revenues.
Pretty much makes any argument by obama or his supporters that revenues must be increased by increasing taxes on the 1% as being rather disengenuous.
At least we now know that obamas ignoring the senates refusal to creatre any type of budget plan (as required by law) has helped give us this sequestration.
I find it interesting that he is compelled to show his lack of leadership and guidance for implimenting the sequester by trying to once again kick it down the road. Obviously obama hasn't a clue on how to implement the sequester, even after he approved it in 2011.
You liberals continue to critcize the conservatives for being what....fiscally conservative?....You hate the tea party for what.....being fiscally conservative?....You despise us for threatening to take away your free ride of spending without any limits. You are all disgusting people....absolutely disgusting people. You are un-American disgusting human beings that should never have entered this country. Let me break down the logic of a liberal here for you.
President Obama ordered the cabinet to cut $100,000,000.00 ($100 million) from the $3,500,000,000,000.00 ($3.5 trillion) federal budget.
I'm so impressed by this sacrifice that I have decided to do the same thing with my personal budget. I spend about $2,000 a month on groceries, household expenses, medicine, utilities, etc., but it's time to get out the budget cutting axe, go through my expenses, and cut back.
I'm going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio (1/35,000) of my total budget. After doing the math, it looks like instead of spending $2,000 a month, I'm going to have to cut that number by six cents. Yes, I'm going to have to get by with $1999.94, but that's what sacrifice is all about.
I'll just have to do without some things, that are, frankly, luxuries, six cents worth.
Did this President actually think no one would do the math?
You damn liberals are absolutely disgusting people. I am sick of everything you support. This logic, of spending cuts is typical for a liberal. I am absolutely dumfounded how a liberal made it into office. Many years from now, after our economic collapse, our history books will look back at this time and point to the logic of a liberal for ruining the greatest country this world has ever known.
I find the whole thing rather funny to be honest...The Senate and White House want modest cuts and tax increases while the House wants cuts only...Now the Senate and the White House are blaming the House for not compromising...But why should they? The sequester is giving them exactly what they want...correct? Cuts only. So would it not be wise for the Senate and White House to compromise and try to work out a deal as to where these cuts would happen instead rather than this broad plan no one seems to want anyway? Accept the fact you got your tax increases last time and the cuts will happen this time without the increases and work on a reasonable plan where to cut.
If Obama can figure out how to give $60 Billion for Sandy aid issues, you would think he would make an effort in figuring out how to cut $85 Billion/yr for 10 yrs to help the rest of the country with fiscal issues. In fact isn't that his job. My mistake, we have a President that doesn't know what his job is and thinks everything is someone else's job.
You want funny STexan? How about the effect of massive public sector layoffs in Red States? First the Fed lay's off "guvmint" employees, then the Red State Governor get's the news about federal assistance fund cuts to the states...massive state layoffs. Federal and State contracts are cancelled and corporations begin massive layoffs. Social safety net...gone...zombie appocolypse.
Then let's talk about leadership...ok skippy?
Easy solution. Revert the Federal Tax Rate to the 1955 rate...simple problem simply solved. Hey, the Republican Party ran on bringing back "Leave it to Beaver" ...why not the tax rates?
liberals steal your money
And yet Republicans started two unfunded wars simultaneously; passed an unfunded pharmaceutical company give-away called Medicare Part D and provided unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy. And you have the gall to say Democrats have an inability to cut spending? ...what happened to Clinton's surplus?
What cuts? The federal govt is still going to spend 15B more--MORE--this year than last...EVEN WITH the sequester budget measures. How exactly is that a cut overall? This isn't about cuts at all, it's about Obama and his insatiable desire to grow the govt to the point where everyone is dependent on it (from unions to illegal immigrants). Who's going to pay for that, huh Obama? If we can't even cut 2% of the budget in Washington, where there is likely 99% waste in many of these programs, what chance under God's blue sky above do we ever have under Obama's watch of getting serious about the budget deficit at all. NEVER!! Way to be completely irresponsible team Obama.
Oh, wake the @!$%# up, already!!! Spending is done in CONGRESS, GET IT??? You are just another stupid dummy!!!
Obamanism is methodically destroying our nation. The ones that will suffer most are our children and their children. Obamanism is using this country and it's laws to destroy it from within. China is collecting info. from this gov't. Russia is reinforcing it's nuclear strength, Iran does what it pleases, N. Korea is laughing at us. Obamanism knows full well what he is doing and is making sure that his cabinet members do as they are told and his appointees are elected. Our country is bankrupt, our schools are not teaching, the price of gasoline will continue to rise as will groceries, unemployment. Obamanism has destroyed the best Health Care in the world and Medicare will soon be a word of the past, our borders will continue to go unprotected. Obamanism is arming the Muslim Brotherhood and disarming America. Obamanism has done nothing for this country. The bigger the lie, the more believable. I pray God that somehow America will wake up from this stupor.
I feel so sorry for you.
and I feel very sorry for you, and Thomas (salud)...eyes wide shut...
SteveJameson
Really Steve...and how is Obama growing the government? There is a Federal Hiring Freeze and wage freeze going on.
Now I know how Bush did it...
1. Declare a war on terrorism and create a whole new agency "Dept of Homeland Security".
2. Create Medicare Part D and funnel government funds to private pharmaceutical companies through no bid drug purchases.
3. Go to war with two nations at the same time...one that had nothing to do with 9/11. Build the largest embassy in the world there, build huge military bases under no-bid contracts going to your friends for bases we turn over to the locals when we're gone.
4. Enlarge the Office of Faith Based Initiatives.
5. Increase the size of all intelligence agencies to spy on American Citizens.
That's how GW did it!
Considering that many of the states are red states they probably won't be contacting their congress person, at least in this regard. We want an improving economy and jobs those are the two things this administration doesn't appear to interested in. Instead Mr. Obama is pushing his agenda to gun rights, gay rights, and illegal immigration and those are just not as important as getting people back to work and off the government payroll so our taxes don't have to rise.
Why do you mindless MORONS on the right say these totally ignorant things? Why hasn't the R.W.N.J.'s in congress passed any of the JOBS BILLS??? Answer... to make this President look bad, all the while, KILLING off AMERICANS!!! Funking stupid assed Conservetheirown!!!
They will be contacting their congressman when their jobs are taken away. Congress needs to work for all their constiuents, not just the ones giving to their campaigns.
what jobs?...we've been doing without for years now...
Obama's second inauguration speech may be his Queeg moment — an undeniable demonstration that, in an emergency, he is incapable of grappling with reality. For all his unceasing invocation of the word "change," the outstanding thing about Obama has been his apparent inability to react, even to an imminent crisis. Like Queeg, he stands frozen on the bridge as the waves grow higher, or obsesses over issues like homosexuals and women in the military as the typhoon rises.
Faced with the worst looming fiscal cliff-fall in world history Obama, like Queeg in the typhoon, has done nothing at all, but has, increasingly, resorted to meaningless words.
His pseudo-Keynesian fiscal notions and a mantra-like repetition of old and failed ideas, suggest a serious lack on mental versatility.
Economics is not an exact science, but some of its rules are now well-known, and one is that a government cannot spend its way out of a recession.
Pubichair, you lack any mental capacity at all!!!
spencer is the dweeb...
TomasGrande, still does not change the fact you are a Communist Democratic POC. Nothing will change that. You could never know the truth about anything because you have your head so far up you would not know the truth about anything if it hit you in the face. You lie right and left because you are far to the left. The United States would be a better place if you left it. I do hate most Democrats because you can not look at the facts and you speak from both sides of your mouth.
DfromSpencer, you should go smoke another bowl and go back to your mesmerized la la land!
Welfare spending is up 32% over the last four years and $1.03 trillion was spent in 2012. I find it hard to believe we couldn't cut $85 billion out of this program (fraud and abuse). Unfortunately, Obama remains transfixed on raising taxes on the "wealthy" even though he got his tax increase last month. Excuse me, but I am tired of seeing my hard earned tax dollars mismannaged by the Federal Government. Obama and the Democrats need to make a commitment to cutting spending before I give up another dime.
I didn't think you paid taxes when you were in a branch of the military?? This guy is a joke, how about staying at the Whitehouse and doing his job instead costing us millions to travel to talking to everyone. No one gives a @!$%# what he has to stay, I want to see results.
I agree completely with your posts, Chris and noone11. No one wants to hear what he has to say over and over again. When I hear him and moooooooochelle I want to puke. I'm tired of his "no cuts" that he's pushing, when "Big Bird" and PBS get so much in donations, that their CEO is one of the highest paid executives around, and then they still want a government handout? GM got theirs, and from what I can tell, they've done very little in the way of production....it all went to the union.
Those companies that were included in the bail-out, those CEO's should be called into court to explain what they did with all that money when they went bankrupt. And he doesn't think some of the things need to be cut? The individual states, yes, do "rely" on fed assistance to support the emergency workers, however, it could be questionable what they do with their money also. Those states that charge a state income tax, what are they spending that money on?
Oblamo -- odumbo is spewing fear mongering and I'd wish he would just stfu and get lost, preferably after he's been impeached for everything that has not been done during his hostage taking of the USA.
Obama will talk to anyone who will listen to him, except he will never choose to talk to the proper people necessary to solve problems.
You, are the one great idiot, today!!!!
bohner? earth to Bohner...come in Bohner.. you there? Arrogant pandering weasel says "so be it" to job loss. Nice. Good trickle down. Why is he ever voted for?
All Oblunder has to do is identify (and get his Democratically controlled Senate to vote for) equivalent cuts from other areas. But he's incapable of leading... just posturing... what a dud... Bohner would be happy to entertain something other "than rape the middle class with more taxes"....
Fessup, please pull that collective gop boner out of your stuckup ass!
Raise the minimum wage to where people can make a decent living and you will eleminate most of the welfare..
or better yet, make povery level $4,000. The pesky little problem of poverty will go away....
Wisconsin's solution is to give tax breaks to companies to bring in more minimum wage jobs. Not the high tech, higher pay scale jobs, just the minimum wage ones.
You think more minimum wage jobs is the answer?
Wow! You deserve your Tea Party Governor.
My 18 year old grandson can't even get a job flipping burgers. That ought to tell you that raising minimum wages don't create jobs. The economy is so bad that companies are either just working their current employees longer hours or not hiring at all. Obamacare is the one real threat to companies existence right now. No one knows what the full impact will be because they don't know fully what it contained in Obamacare. Even the Democrats don't know what's in it because they didn't read it before they voted on it.
Canespider - Who's going to create those minimum wage jobs? You? Peopele are either losing their jobs or having their working hours cut back to try and accomodate the Obamacare mandates or avoid the fines. I'm sure a Ph.D. would love to flip burgers for minimum wage but it would take a long time to pay off the student loans at that wage.
I'd gladly pay your grandson 2 bucks an hour...if he was worth it
AvgJoe,
Raising the minimum wage does create jobs. When 20 million working poor have more to spend on necessities it puts more money in the market place and encourages hiring.
According to most economist 1968 was the time when a dollar had the most buying power. And to match that buying power the minimum wage would have to be $10.50 per hour now, yet you have waitresses on graveyard shifts in right-to-work states getting $2.13 an hour and are lucky to make $30 with tips in a full shift.........Low wages deprives the market of the needed capital to grow the economy and create jobs.
It won't work. Some greedy bastard out there will raise prices to get all the money.
Upset: I was being sarcastic. We NEED high paying NEW jobs, not the service and minimum wage paying jobs that Scott Walker is swiping from Illinois and Minnesota.
IAM: Are you suggesting that Mr. Walker create high paying jobs for those individuals that don't qualify for the job? We already got that with that program that pit the "poor, uneducated against those who had the education". A lot of the government workers I see are a$$ dragging and unqualified to have those positions, but either because of their color or ethnicity, they were given those positions. You can't put "the uneducated" into high paying "new" jobs as you stated, because they NEED TO START/LEARN somewhere, the rules of what it takes to be employed in the first place. Job/employer loyalty, stability, work ethic (meaning work hard, be there everyday, provide the employer with quick thinking, and possibilities). If you're qualified to flip burgers at minimum wage, then you flip burgers for MINIMUM wage. Why do people think that just because they exist, they deserve that job that someone with education/knowledge/experience has.
Ellis Baumgarner,
Let's do some simple math here, shall we? Let's say you earn $10 a month from a small business. You have $5 in monthly living costs and you have 2 employees that each earn $2 a month. That's $9 or your $10 that goes to pay your bills. If you were forced to pay each employee 50 cents more, would you gladly pay it and have no money for yourself?
If your answer is yes, it's probably a good thing that you aren't a business owner. If your answer is no, you now understand why raising the minimum wage would not be a good idea. Small businesses would either pass the cost along to the consumer, which would hurt business, or they would lay off employees, which hurts everyone involved.
Until the Democrats are ready to address the real spending issue of entitlements this is all just a side show.
Canon - The only thing holding up a deal (just like in 2011) is the GOP's unwillingness to close tax loop holes for the ultra wealthy. Until you somehow comprehend that, this whole discussion is lost on you.
85% of Americans favor a balanced approach. Heck, even the majority of Republican voters do.
upset,
did you not see bonheads ( yea im not a fan of him either ) when they were dealing with the last tax increase.. He wanted all the tax rates to stay the same, and loop holes closed. Would of brought in the number of green backs obama wanted, but it didnt raise taxes..
Why dont you learn whats been going on, instead of following what the media tells you.
canon,....
Tell us please, before Obama became president, when did republicans last talk about cutting spending and being fiscally responsible ?.....Answer....When Clinton first became president.
During the first six years of the Bush presidency when republicans controlled Congress, Congress issued a no-limit credit card to Bush to pay for his two unnecessary wars, tax cuts for the rich and and the advantage plans to Medicare which transferred more than a trillion taxpayer dollars to private insurance companies.
Truth is, the only time republicans ever talk about cutting spending and being fiscally responsible is when they are not in total control of America's credit card or the spending......
It is a well known Republican tatic to blame the other guy when they too have a part in this mess. Remember. Voters have short term memory. They are easily confused.
Republicans have been trying since the thirties to take away Social Security and Medicare. It gives ordinary Americans too much leverage against the exploitation by the wealthy. They were trying to conserve their hegemony, exactly what conservatism means. These are derisively called "entitlements", they are not, and nothing the right says will change that. Taxes are the lowest they have been in a generation. They could have left taxes where they were during Bush's administration and paid down some of the debt they created or at the least not increased the deficit. Instead the recession was their excuse to continue to hollow out the middle class, exacting wage, health security, education, environmental and retirement cuts. It never ceases to amaze me, that tea people who don't want government "intrusion" are so willing to accept "free market" abuse.
So, we're going to go off the cliff after all? I'm going to shoot spitballs at the dumbass righties an the way down!
People like you in Congress are the reason nothing gets done.
No, Letus, you are wrong!!! Its the tea people and gop that is holding us up!!!
SECEDE from DC..... the ONLY option......
How's the weather in Texas Steve?
Hey steve...don't let the Barn door hit ya..and Take the Teabaggers with ya.
Why don't you just blow us obama? Stick to your tv shows and cameos ans stop pretending to be President. Then maybe we can get some one to really do the job. Sick of hearing him screaming the the sky is falling.
leroy brown
So, with that being your stance, I guess this means it is OK for us physical conservatives to return fire with 7.62 x 51mm's
President Obama basically takes a no compromise position while going to every media covered venue with his requests that Republicans compromise. He's absolved himself of responsibility for sequestration which he negotiated, and, of course, signed the bill.
About time for someone to call him on this.
Congress is responsible for drafting the legislation, not the President...
yeah we all know that the ass obama is not responsible for anything.....someone impeach this ass of a president..he has done enough damage to our nation....
he is a fraud, a flim flam man, the great bamboozler............
Congress has to pass something before the President can sign it. Until there is actual legislation you need to put the blame where it's due. The Republican controlled House of Representatives.
and another political hack that knows nothing..
The WHITE HOUSE was the first to propose the cuts... but its the republicans fault.. w/e
Congress passed the sequestration bill- including Republicans.
yeah it was the ass obama's idea...
Congress could have amended it or refused to pass it if they didn't like it.
Re-Elect Obama 2012
Obama could have VETOED it.
HIS signature is on the bottom of the page APPROVING the legislation.
Regarldess of who initiated the idea..... OBAMA owns it. Lock, stock and barrel. His signature says so.
xd9mm
The party of "No" could have stopped it if they had WANTED to....But hey...Bonehead come out after and bragged the He and the rest of the Cowards got 80% of what they wanted. They thought (talk about DUMB)
They thought would WIN in 2012!!!! Laughable.
Try to keep up.
So according to your logic, Obama signs all bills so therefore has all responsibility and Congress has none for EVERYTHING? Nice jobs we pay them for. That's ridiculous.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't President Obama sign the sequestration bill into law a few months ago, and now he's in a panic????? Maybe this party needs to start reading what they're voting for and signing into law, just a thought!
Congress passed the bill...
So when will the senate pass a budget then??????? you leftwingnuts have more phucking excuses than cater has pills.
He signed a bill sent to him from Congress because the inept people couldn't agree on anything. And yes, he should be in a panic, just as Congress should be. If they aren't they don't understand what is about to hit the fan.
As long as the House keeps passing garbage, their budget bills will never come to a vote on the Senate floor.
Well the Senate could vote down the "garbage"... but Harry the Barrier would never force his Dumb Dems to have to take a side on spending and entitlements... the moderates would go down like flies in 2014...
Obama said that our elected people need to stop thinking about the next election and start governing. He should have practiced what he's now preaching during his first term.
You mean you want Ojobkiller to do his job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES! But I'm beginning to think that man doesn't know the meaning of the word "WORK".
It must be school vacation week. This site is loaded with posts showing the mental capacity of third graders.
Most third graders have more sense than Obama, this man is about about himself and no one else!
Shawn needs to take second grade ... AGAIN. FOXBRAIN
3rd graders? yeah - the tbaggers and RTHUGs have proven that they aren't smarter than a 5th grader FOR SURE
Facts mean nothing to the tea baggers. A surplus was handed to W and the Republicans. Under their watch the deficit and the debt ballooned, then for a parting shot they were asleep when the economy collapsed.
Deregulation they championed for the "free market" caused the collapse, which had the economy shedding 700,000 jobs a month, a stock market crash of over half its worth, and a frozen credit market. Two wars, Medicare D unpaid for, massive "govmint" expansion in bureaucracy and cost, one had to ask" where were the tea baggers"? They were busy declaring anyone against the Iraq war traitors.
Argue your insanity if you will, but since the stimulus passed, jobs have been gained. Government expenditures as a percentage of GDP have stabilized and been reduced. Taxes have been reduced for everyone because Shrub Jr.s cuts were extended past their expiration date. Yes, unemployment insurance and food stamps spending went up, this is what happens when a destroyed economy hits average Americans. How many times do you have to be told, taxes are the lowest they've been in a generation. This is fact and no amount of conservative BS is going to change any of that.
Finally, the amount of animosity towards President Obama stems from the republicans losing their minds with help from the not so underground racism. The one term plot was unsuccessful. The republicans have become the spend and borrow party., spend and borrow, spend and borrow, spend and borrow. Paygo was thrown out, wars weren't paid for, and now since a Democrat is in office, it's we have to cut, we have to cut. We remember and you all lost. Now if you're not able to even go 2 for 1 cuts to revenues, then you are irrelevent, we will not allow you to destroy what it took brave Americans years to create, like say the middle class.
Ospend-O-lot, higher tax rates, more spending, fewer jobs!!!!!!!!!
Is there anyone on the DNC that knows how to balance a check book??????
"Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" - Darth Cheney. They must have believed it since this is the party that took control of all three branches of government with a balanced budget and surplus, yet left office with a $1.4 Trillion annual shortfall projected long into the future. Now, they don't even want to fix it.
After the president’s budget is submitted, House and Senate budget committees are supposed to draft budget resolutions, frameworks intended to guide the spending process, which then go to the floor for approval.
Once adopted, the two resolutions go to a House and Senate conference committee, where they are reconciled and sent back to the respective chambers for final approval.
But that process hasn't been working. In 2010, the then Democratic-controlled House and Senate did not adopt a budget resolution or adopt a single spending bill "because the Democrats were afraid of being labeled big spenders," Ellis said.
In April, 2011, without a budget resolution, Congress, with the House controlled by Republicans, agreed to a spending bill for fiscal 2011 in order to avoid a government shutdown. That bill provides funding through the end of September, 2011. The budget resolution provides the blueprint for such legislative activity but it’s not necessary to the process, said Jim Horney, an economist with the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING SINCE. So, who exactly is to blame?
The Republican controlled House is to blame. They keep passing psychotic bills that have no chance of passing in the Senate.
upset-1557697
Just making s*** up as you go there.... Oblunder is the only president to rack up $trillion plus deficits...
hey dumb f uck obama lover your dumb f uck dictator obama keeps passing s hit without asking anyone, and i bet you think he is 100% black to DONT YOU
F.U. Floyd Brown
just keep plugging along Rethug/ teabaggers - you will wake up into 2015 with even LESS representation (as the electorate comes to their collective senses)
just more proof that this ass obama is not a leader in any sense of the word....he is a liar, a distorter, a deceiver, and a divider...someone impeach him
But, he is a good daddy. I mean how many black men are married?
McObamasucker, you are a turd, nothing more than @!$%# for brains!!!
Govs to President Obama - no thanks, you hatched this plan and sent it to your lapdog Harry Reid to push it through and you signed it. We will tell our reps to give you want you wanted before you were against it.
Raising minimum wage won't end welfare. Raising taxes reduces liquid assets that could be used to buy goods and services. Can't buy goods and services, businesses can't expand and people can't buy items being made. Reduced sales means possible layoffs. Layoffs mean unemployment. Unemployment means welfare.
It's strange how Obama can't see the economic circle that every financially savvy person deals with daily. Simple cause and effect. He agreed to the sequestration bill, now he must reap what he has sown. Let him offer the spending cuts that need to be made. Either that or let him deal with the cuts that will be made automatically. Personally, I think we need to take a page out of Pelosi's ACA speech and let it happen to see what it actually affects. It could turn out that sequestration is the best thing for our economy.
The first spending cut that needs to be made is grounding Air Force One! At $150,000.00 an hour Obama alone is running up a large part of our debt.
Shawn - I agree. I also think that he should only get 14 days vacation a year as well. Most people don't get more than that working for a company 10 years. Also make his salary the minimum wage set by law. Since he's on the job 24/7 he'll still get a salary that isn't as good as he currently gets but is still a "living" wage.
He had no choice but to sign it into law. The United States could not afford to take another hit on their credit ratings. You think that 8% interest is high on your credit card? Miss a couple payments and then see what the interest is... The S&P, Moody's, they all said that if we didn't look like we were trying to address our issues. Problem is that most people don't read all the articles leading up to this point and then try to grasp it all at the last minute.
The point of this whole process was to force both sides into meeting in the middle. But that isn't happening. Both sides are ignorant. But both sides have to bend a little.
IAM, Both sides need to be replaced, they are not listening to the people they work for.
I AM,
Did the Repubs bend at the end of 2012 and pass tax increases? Wouldn't that mean its the Dems turn to cut?
SHAWN-1387469 (#20.1):
Interesting how so many of you Repuklecons did NOT cry out in protest when dimwit Bush used Airforce One......
How easily you conveniently forget............
what tax increases? Oh the ones from where the tax cuts EXPIRED... sheesh - talk about mistaken info
we KNOW you're a RETHUG, now try something PRODUCTIVE?
Put a fork in it,
Does it look different coming out of your paycheck when you say expire versus increase?
The President signed the bill into law. Now that he is re-elected the true Tax and Spend Democrat comes to the surface.
Did Joe move from Albany?
Nope, this Joe has been in Kalispell, MT for years.
" But at some point we've got to do some governing." Starting When? What a fkn joke this guy is
It is Congress that is failing to act.
In this case the Democratic President is the De Facto leader of his party. He could twist arms in Congress to be more co-operative, because Dems are not, instead of wasting all our time.
this was Oblunder's idea... now he wants to kick the can further down the road... all he has to do is propose equivalent cuts that have less negative impact... you know, prioritization like you and I do when we want stuff but can only afford part of it... he's soooo incompetent.... and such a liar... his nose must be 40yds long by now....
Re-Elect Obama 2012 (#22.1):
**sigh**
We have to remember that we can't fix stupid--the description that fits Repuklecons to the T.
jean your a waste of good air
Jindahl says the president should stop the campaigning. I had a professor who use to say if you wanted to know what a preacher struggles with listen to what he preaches about. Well, who is on the list of those running in 2016?
Obama was a professor, who had a preacher who used to say, "God Damn America." And for twenty years this professor used to think, "I wonder why I agree with the struggles of my Preacher."
Please, for once. Let's cut the money we send OUT of this country instead of cutting our throats and giving to the rest of the Damm world. Really Really, Do something Bozo.............................
The money sent out of the country is such a small part of the problem. What we need to do, no one is willing to do. First, To get welfare if you are not truely disabled, or are under 62, you should have to work for it. It can be as simple as cleaning sidewalks, or some other community service, to earn your food stamps. Then there are the research projects that spend billions on shrimp treadmills, and such. Then there are the energy subsadys, that waist bilions on green and fossal fuels. Not to mention the Departments of Educations (which is a state mandated responsibility) EPA, Interior, (one here could be eleminated). Put the Congress on part time pay, (since they only are in session only partime to begin with). Have all agency cut top management by 10% (not the actual workers). I am sure just a couple of these would cut the deficet. It is funny how the president is running a huge defficet, and complains to the governers (who for the most part (except for California, Ill. Mich. and a few others), are not running deficets).
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