Political hot potato: GOP trades blame with Obama for looming sequester

 

Amid a growing sense that the drastic and automatic spending cuts known as the “sequester” are likely to take effect at the beginning of March, House Republicans have spent the last few weeks pinning the blame squarely on President Barack Obama if these cuts take place.

“We’re weeks away from the president’s sequester,” House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Wednesday morning on Capitol Hill. “And the president laid out no plan to eliminate the sequester and the harmful cuts that will come of it.”

Yet it’s not as though Obama has embraced the cuts, which economists warn could not only cost thousands of American jobs, but also threaten to weaken the national defense because a large portion of them fall disproportionately upon the Pentagon’s budget. Rather, he mimicked Republicans, and pointed fingers.

“In 2011, Congress passed a law saying that if both parties couldn’t agree on a plan to reach our deficit goal, about a trillion dollars’ worth of budget cuts would automatically go into effect this year,” the president said in his State of the Union address.

J. Scott Applewhite / AP

House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, accompanied by the fellow House GOP leadership, speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill on Feb. 5, 2013, to urge President Barack Obama to offer ideas to replace the looming, automatic budget cuts known as the sequester.

The blame game reflects the unpopularity of those cuts; a Quinnipiac University poll released earlier this month found that 43 percent of Americans oppose letting the sequester take effect, versus 22 percent who favor the automatic cuts. Almost a third of Americans expressed no opinion, though that number would almost certainly drop if the cuts are swiftly implemented.

But the mere fact that sequestration continues to hover over Washington’s budget battles is a direct result of the dysfunction that has come to characterize negotiations between Obama and congressional Republicans over the past two years. Despite both sides’ work to absolve themselves of responsibility for these cuts, there is more than enough blame to spread around.

The sequester was the byproduct of the last-minute deal forged in August of 2011 to raise the nation’s debt limit. As the deadline for default neared, Obama and Boehner struggled to reach an agreement that would give House Republicans the spending cuts they wanted, and allow Obama to prevent a default on the national debt.

That fight itself was somewhat unusual. Republicans, in their zest to extract spending cuts from the president, took the unusual step of demanding cuts in exchange for raising the debt limit, a congressional prerogative that had been largely routine in modern history.

According to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward’s book “The Price of Politics,” it was the White House that first suggested some kind of triggered spending cuts as part of a compromise to extract more borrowing authority. This is the primary evidence by which Republicans make their charge.

But GOP leaders also no longer acknowledge their own role in pushing the measure through Congress. Boehner told CBS News at the time of the deal that he was happy with the agreement, and “got 98 percent of what I wanted.”

“No one said it's his responsibility alone. We've just pointed out accurately that the only reason it exists is his insistence on it,” Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said Wednesday. “Given that fact, he, more than anyone, has responsibility to do something about it. And they've done nothing.”

Blame game
The whole point of the sequester, though, was its design – fashioned to be so reckless and deep in its cuts that it would be politically distasteful to lawmakers in both parties, forcing the administration and congressional Republicans to reach an agreement.

In fact, the 2011 agreement also created the so-called “super committee,” the bipartisan, bicameral panel that was intended to generate a comprehensive proposal to replace the sequester with a series of spending cuts, new tax revenue and entitlement reforms.

Their work failed because Republicans and Democrats couldn’t reach an agreement – a prime example of the strident divisions that characterized the last Congress.

President Barack Obama explains his view on what a sequester would do to the U.S. economy while delivering the State of the Union on Tuesday.

Sequestration, of course, was the other prong of the so-called “fiscal cliff,” the economically catastrophic combination of those spending cuts and the automatic spending hikes that were set to take place at the beginning of this year. Lawmakers addressed part of the tax component when they passed legislation allowing taxes to rise on household income over $450,000.

But they punted on the sequester for another two months, setting up the end-of-February deadline before these spending cuts take place. And as the onset of the sequester seems more and more like a fait accompli, Republicans and Democrats are now scrambling to assign blame.

GOP lawmakers’ central argument now is that they have passed an alternative to the sequester, though it leans solely on spending cuts and was regarded as dead in the Democratic-controlled Senate before the House even passed the proposal.

That’s at least better, Republicans argue, than the administration. The president has not formally debuted a detailed legislative alternative to the sequester, relying instead on outlining broad parameters and leaving the work to lawmakers.

“If Congress can’t act immediately on a bigger package … then I believe that they should at least pass a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effects of the sequester for a few more months until Congress finds a way to replace these cuts with a smarter solution,” Obama said on Feb. 5.

He outlined more specific parameters – tax reform, entitlement savings and spending cuts – in Wednesday’s State of the Union that, Obama argued, would make up a more “balanced” replacement for the sequester.

That wasn’t enough for Boehner.

“Republicans have twice passed bills to replace the sequester,” the top Republican said on Wednesday. “It’s incumbent upon the president and Senate Democrats to show us their plan to stop the sequester from going into effect.”

Until then, more buck-passing.

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Comment author avatarSane-2794278Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

He got taxes on the rich, and now it is time for spending cuts. Even forced cuts are better than raising the debt ceiling again. This administration has never been willing to have a budget, it's time the cuts are made automatic. For five years he has been President and still wants to blame Bush or Congress or random events for his lack of leadership, always the demand that someone else come up with a plan for him to approve. I thought he was elected because he had vision, not because he was a great delegater. You've had five years to come up with something. Time to shine.

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#1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:55 AM EST

Amazing that this story and others that are critical to the administration is posted at this time rather than the 9:00 a.m. slot reserved for the rat pack from the DDI.

  • 26 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:03 AM EST
Comment author avatarDoctorLogicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

(In)sane....

What on God's green earth are you talking about?!

We HAVE cut spending....he put forth some spending cuts in 2010, the BCA of 2011, and there were some spending cuts in the fiscal cliff deal.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186571/-Yes-Obama-has-cut-federal-spending

The debt ceiling has never been an issue before given all it does is authorize congress to spend money that has been agreed to already.

This administration has never been willing to have a budget

The Obama Administration HAS put forth a budget every year and passed it in 2009. What you are saying is pure, utter hyperbole.

For five years he has been President and still wants to blame Bush or Congress or random events for his lack of leadership

Random events?!?! Passing tax cut packages without paying for them is "random"? Going into two wars without paying for them is "random"? Give me a flippin' break.....there is a reason we have the debt we do; and it sure as heck isn't the guy who is in the WH right now. After all, his STARTING point was a $1.2 trillion deficit (yes...you have to blame Bush for that one).

it's time the cuts are made automatic.

It is quite evident you have no clue how the economy works. Real economists say that the across the board spending cuts in the sequester will lurch the economy back into recession. Heck, even John Boehner says the sequester cuts would be bad....

“I don’t like the sequester. I think it’s taking a meat to axe to our government, a meat axe to many of our programs, and it will weaken our national defense.”

Obama has done more to cut spending than the last three Republican Presidents combined. We still have 7.9% unemployment....we have to grow the economy, not shrink it through arbitrary cuts.

Flatly put, the sequester is stupid policy.

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#1.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:27 AM EST
Comment author avatarThomas BlueExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I just love how Congress spent the money and passed the bills but "it's Obama's fault" that Congress' mess hasn't been fixed. How nice.

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#1.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:47 AM EST

Dear Mr. President,

You got your Tax Increase now it is time for you to do some CUTTING…..

Yes, we know it is CONGRESSES job to send you the Budget and Your job to Approve or Disapprove it….. Since Congress is unable to do its job it is up to you as our Leader to step forward and get the job done…..

Dear Congress,

1. Filibusters have to be continuous and filibuster must be present....

2. Majority must be present to be in session

3. No more Super Majority, You know 51 % is majority 60 % is BS.....

4. Quit the Pork, 1 Bill per item.....

Yes, cuts are in order. However before you touch your so called entitlement programs lets address some additional costs.....

1. Runaway spending by Home Land Security
2. Runaway cost of Public Sector Workers
3. Runaway costs of Foreign Aid
4. Runaway cost of Military Hardware
5. Runaway cost of CONGRESS
6. Runaway cost of EPA
7. Runaway cost of TSA

When this is done then we can talk about Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Welfare, and unemployment…..

  • 65 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:57 AM EST

If the President is so concerned about the Sequester than why would he just two days ago say "now is the time" "now is the time" for immigration reform which means...11+million illegal immigrants would be granted amnesty...which means 11+ mouths to feed off the Government dole.

He says one thing and does another the whole while the uniformed or seemingly stupid public falls for it time and time again. Owebama doesn't accept responsibility for any action and seems to to be manipulative of the situation at large. We have a revenue problem, we don't have a spending problem, We have paying for it problem, yes we have spending problem. I mean really if the White House doesn't have iota own reality TV show it really should because I would watch it. Wait...I am living it every day and this reality show sucks!

I can only think of one thing right now and that is how Dr. Ben Carson schooled the President at the prayer breakfast. I have seen videos of the Owebama getting snubbed by the Russians and not shaking his have by four diplomats, but to be educated on everything this current administration is doing that is 'opposite and divisive' of everything they 'should' be doing was a golden moment for this whole country.

ObamaCare will soon be mirroring "Logan's Run" and our seniors will soon be entering the 'Carousel' amid the decisions of the death panel. Even he mentioned the rising costs these seniors will attribute to health care. Science fiction is being confirmed as science faction with this current administration.

And finally the creme on top is not advocating stiffer penalties for criminals who use guns in violent crimes...no this President will put 100% of the people in harm by affecting 99% of law abiding citizens with stiffer gun regulations which will lead to confiscation in the future (history shows this). We abort babies, criminalize large sodas, and penalize law abiding citizens whom by definition have a 2nd amendment as the reason this country exists today!!

We are in a Twilight ZONE and its here in America. DR, BEN CARSON FORT PRESIDENT...the only person to make sense in five years now...no...twenty years now. Please watch the prayer breakfast with Dr. Carson on youtube you will be enlightened or your money back...wait...we have no money, so just do it for your country because you care!

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#1.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:06 AM EST
Comment author avatarThomas BlueExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@ Jedi...

I'd take issue with you except there's too much there to take on. You sound high. You remind me of a dog chasing it's tail. Your logic is very specious.

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#1.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 AM EST

Sane. I hate to tell you this, but, it is not Obamas job to come up with anything, it is our Lovely Congresses Job. they all came up with the deal that should happen on March first, everyone agreed, Let it happen. Our Politicians will not cut where things should be cut, so, let the Sequester happen. I cant wait until the Warmongers buddies get there cuts. Our congress is a do nothing Congress, and that is probably a good thing. Most of our congress are fools. Sane, remember this, Congress first, Senate Second, and if both houses agree, send to Obama for Approval or Veto, Got it. If Obama wants to, he can come up sith suggestions to go before Congress and the Senate, but, it is not in his Job Description to do so.

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#1.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:35 AM EST

It is clearly congress, and particularly Boners house that is not passing a budget worthy of consideration. The sequester at worst was an agreement between congress and the president. How can these unscrupulous azzhole republicans try to pass the blame on to the president when they are the ones not doing their job? They control the purse strings, they pass the budgets not the president. I also know the president is right, it is time to close the loopholes that these rich S.O.B.s have. It is time for the very richest in this country to step up and pay for the mess their idiot republican representatives created. The borrow and spend republicans are the problem not the cure.

  • 54 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:38 AM EST

There will be nothing left by the time hes through.... We have no policy in place since the administration has taken office that is currently working or worth the record TRILLIONS of dollars they've spent putting us where we are at... Hats off to the republicans at least now they are standing some ground , even if its the concrete setting up around them.... The world is looking at the U.S. , is that laughter We are hearing now ?

  • 26 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:41 AM EST

Why is it that Liberals insist on calling the rich "SOB's". They achieved the "American Dream" and they employ people like you and me. So that we can WORK to achieve ours. Those rich "SOB's" are the ones still investing in this country. Liberals would rather believe in this Eutopian world that Obama paints for them - rather than the truth. Obama will spend the next four years blaming everyone for his failures - and for those of us that can handle the truth - He has yet to show up for work. He is as checked out today as he was before the election.

At the end of his four years when everything is not all flowers, unicorns and sunshine - where will he be - on a plane headed to Hawaii...still blaming George and the Republicans.

His only "plan" for this country - is to see it fail. He just may get his wish...

  • 43 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:08 AM EST

As usual,

Too many voters embrace feel-good propaganda that they want to hear instead of learning the basic facts about issues they care about. They should do a better job of calling out dishonest politicians -- and shunning media outlets that stoke political food fights.

http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress

DoctorLogic,

Do not call yourself something you are NOT (proven by your post), Logic.

Causative Timeline:

1. President Obama in his President's Proposal to US Congress Demanded the Spending of Previously Not Budgeted For $2.1 Trillion.

You don't even know what that $2.1 Trillion was spent on do you DoctorLogic. You tell me what the $2.1 Trillion was spent on and when, then we will have an adult conversation AFTER you do the Actual Research.

2. To pay for the Spending of Previously Not Budgeted For $2.1 Trillion as Demanded by President Obama, President Obama in another President's Proposal to US Congress demanded "Across the Board Budget Cuts" of previously budgeted for Programs (like Medicare, Social Security, "Old People Programs that the Old People already paid into, etc.), Projects (like the US Army Corps of Engineers Infrastructure Projects within the US, etc.), Agencies (like FEMA, Department of Education, Veteran's Affairs, etc.), chopping the Benefits and Entitlements of the "47%" (2012 actual 49%, 2013 update 51%).

Name the short title and the date of President Obama's President's Proposal demanding "Across the Board Budget Cuts", DoctorLogic,

The Repugnants start attempting to negotiate with President Obama for smarter Austerity Measures, he refuses, and continuely harps on his "Tax The Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share"; the Repugnants keep saying that Taxing the Rich will only pay for 8 days, as well as hurt the Rich US And Foreign Business Investors for the US.

3. The Super Committee is formed to attempt to Find the Money to pay for President Obama's Demanded Spending of $2.1 Trillion, they cannot find $1.2 Trillion. As pressure to achieve something President Obama gives US Congress another President's Proposal to US Congress as a Demand that if they cannot find the money then "Automatic Sequestration".

Name the short title of President Obama's President's Proposal to US Congress and the Date DoctorLogic, Demanding "Automatic Sequestration".

Basically, the Waitress arrived with the bill of $2.1 Trillion for the meal that President Obama ate, and now he is looking for everyone else to pay.

Also DoctorLogic, Fill in the blanks:

Federal Spending:

____% Entitlements

____% Defense

____% Discretionary Spending

____% Interest (like Interest on Loans from China)

Before you even attempt illogical name calling:

From President Obama's 2013 Inaugural Speech:

We cannot mistake absolutism for principle, or substitute spectacle for politics, or treat name-calling as reasoned debate.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/21/16626094-obamas-inaugural-speech-the-full-text?threadId=3650897&commentId=73569137#c73569137

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#1.11 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:08 AM EST

I love it when liberals tout the Obama line that he has already reduced the deficit by 2.5 trillion through a combination of spending cuts and raising taxes on the top 1%. But there have been no spending cuts associated with Obama's claim, and this 2.5 trillion is nothing but an estimate of reductions through 2022. Even these so called spending cuts are nothing but reductions in planned future spending increases. Since the 2.5 trillion is dubious because of which baseline is used, and so far out it is nothing but a pipe dream and a talking point. As for the tax increases on the 1%, well at least for this year the amount it will raise was spent on Sandy Relief, so already that 2.5 trillion in estimated deficit reduction is being chipped away. Besides Nancy Pelosi says it is a false argument to say Washington has a spending problem, and of course Obama is going to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. This is what you call Democrats in denial.

  • 38 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:26 AM EST

How this developed is quite clear. Republicans wouldn't compromise on fiscal matters in 2010, so it was all shoved off into 2011. Republicans wouldn't agree to a balanced approach in 2011, so it was all shoved off until after the 2012 elections. In the bargain REPUBLICANS ALREADY GOT MORE SPENDING THAN TAX INCREASES;

As part of the 2011 Budget Control Act, Obama agreed to spending reductions of about $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. If you count the interest, the savings is actually $1.7 trillion. Boehner should have no problem remembering the details of that deal: As Greg Sargent points out, Boehner at the time actually gloated about the fact that the deal was "all spending cuts."

And now, with this latest offer, Obama is proposing yet more spending reductions, to the tune of several hundred billion dollars. Add it up and it’s more than $2 trillion in spending cuts Obama has either signed into law or is endorsing now. That’s obviously greater than the $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue he’s seeking. (And that doesn't even take into account automatic cuts from the 2011 budget sequester, which Obama has proposed to defer, or savings from ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.) So, yes, Obama’s proposal is unbalanced—but not in the way Republicans seem to think. If Obama were proposing a truly balanced plan, he’d be calling for even more tax revenue or even less spending reduction.

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/110606/obama-deficit-reduction-offer-spending-cut-tax-increase-boehner#

The end result is that President Obama has already signed into law a faster deficit reduction than any time since the end of WWII and if Republicans get their way it will create exactly the austerity programs that have crashed the economies of Europe;

Believe it or not, the federal deficit has fallen faster over the past three years than it has in any such stretch since demobilization from World War II.

In fact, outside of that post-WWII era, the only time the deficit has fallen faster was when the economy relapsed in 1937, turning the Great Depression into a decade-long affair.

If U.S. history offers any guide, we are already testing the speed limits of a fiscal consolidation that doesn't risk backfiring. That's why the best way to address the fiscal cliff likely is to postpone it.

While long-term deficit reduction is important and deficits remain very large by historical standards, the reality is that the government already has its foot on the brakes.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/blogs-capital-hill/112012-634082-federal-deficit-falling-fastest-since-world-war-ii.htm#ixzz2KsMSOfkG
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So enough whining about "not being serious" about the deficit...IT'S ALREADY FALLING, and about as rapidly as the economy can stand for now. For proof of that look no farther than Q4, in which the difference between expansion and contraction was ALL in government spending reductions.

Why would we put our faith in Republicans, who created 30 years of middle class stagnation culminating in a world economic collapse?

  • 38 votes
#1.13 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:29 AM EST

We HAVE cut spending....

NO.

We've simply cut the increases in spending.

Only in liberal la-la land does reducing an increase in spending equate to a 'spending cut'.

.

According to the Democrat leadership, "we don't have a spending problem".

"Socialism is great, until you run out of other people's money"

.

  • 40 votes
#1.14 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:30 AM EST
Comment author avatarDavid-1682248Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich. Enter younger kids into pre school. Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

  • 29 votes
#1.15 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:35 AM EST

Let's hold their feet to the fire. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Let the sequesters happen. This was a deal agreed to by the GOP so they could get an extension of the Bush Tax Cuts For The Wealthy. They were threatening to destroy our nation's credit rating, and in fact did hurt it (costing us more on our debt). The GOP wants ALL cuts to come from social programs for the poor and middle class, and have refused to budge from that position despite bi-partisan support for Simson-Bowles. Well now it's put up or shut up time. The President should take no calls from the GOP and just let the sequesters take effect. The military/industrial complex, who are the GOP backers, will go completely insane. It is time for the "Party of NO" to cease to exist. In the mid-terms we need to vote every Republican up for re-election out of office. That is the only way this country will ever function again.

  • 26 votes
#1.16 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:46 AM EST

John B.: Thanks for your facts and the sources. You are correct on all counts. However, there will be very little reading done by those who have full animosity for President Obama. Their view of economics and the steps necessary to strengthen the U.S. can never surpass the color of our President, sorry to say. To be so mired in the dregs of the repub/tparty song and dance lessens any chance of moving our country forward. We have a President that has no time for the pettiness coming from Congress; a President that looks for advances now to secure our future, yet little can be done because of the repub/tparty need to obey the manifesto of big money to destroy our President.

We must rid Congress of the repub/tparty whose platform is one of deceit, whose base is devious at best. Every year elections are held at the local and state levels. Get involved, get informed - vote.

  • 28 votes
#1.17 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:47 AM EST

“We’re weeks away from the president’s sequester,” House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Wednesday morning on Capitol Hill. “And the president laid out no plan to eliminate the sequester and the harmful cuts that will come of it.”

Note: "...the president's sequester". Many do not understand that the sequestration idea originated in the Obama White House. It was put in a bill and Obama signed it. He owns it.

  • 26 votes
#1.18 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:47 AM EST

Obamas lies & poor policies are starting to come back & there there's not many more people to blame.

  • 27 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:47 AM EST

Obama was handed a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit budget, the deficit is now 800 billion and change, all you brainiac right wing dolts, there is the math. Deficits have been cut. Don't let facts bother you, go listen to reruns of Rush. You won't get any facts there.

  • 23 votes
#1.20 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:49 AM EST

Sane..."He got taxes on the rich..."

Obama raised taxes on every American by printing money causing every American's dollar to be worth less. And that includes the poor, people on welfare and Dr. Logic. He also increased payroll taxes on everyone working, even the poor.

And yes, Obama has cut some spending, but nothing that amounts to anything of significance in the long run. Obama doesn't have the guts to make the big cuts, because he is a failure as a leader. He is afraid that doing the right thing might cause the Democrats to lose votes.

  • 24 votes
#1.21 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:51 AM EST

Lets just call bovine excrement on republican, Obama can't do a damn thing about stopping the sequester. That is congress's baby. Presidents do not make the budget and Boner is just playing politics, as usual, and nothing else. Boner is the failure. Congress has a approval rating in the teens and over half the country know Obama has done a good job. That should be enough said.

  • 24 votes
#1.22 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:52 AM EST

Happy Valentine's Day...y'all

What keep you up, this Valentine's morning?

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:53 AM EST

Johntho

Did Obama agree or not to the sequester? Was it not his own idea?

Oh, please tell me exactly how you can determine what the budget deficit is when you don't have a budget to begin with.

And I'm not supporting EITHER party, but in fairness the House HAS sent budget proposals to the Senate. It is Harry Reid that refuses to bring them to the floor for a vote. Whether up or down is irrelevant, he won't let them see the light of day for discussions.

  • 29 votes
#1.24 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:55 AM EST

Only liberal loons would actually beleive that the overall budget was cut. Sure we cut .000000001% of this and added 1% of that, this is the fuzzy math the Dems are noted for. What we have is a bunch of frightened little whiners who live off government handouts fearing that some of it may go away.

  • 21 votes
#1.25 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:55 AM EST

the sequestor is a GOP valentine's day gift to us... so..the GOP doesn't really understand love!!

  • 17 votes
#1.26 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:00 AM EST

“In 2011, Congress passed a law saying that if both parties couldn’t agree on a plan to reach our deficit goal, about a trillion dollars’ worth of budget cuts would automatically go into effect this year,” the president said in his State of the Union address.

Republicans AND democrats presented a BILL to obama. obama signed it which makes it a LAW. So here is obama throwing his fellow democrats under the bus but trying to blame the republicans for the sequester.

obama made a deal to get what he wanted - an increase in the debt ceiling. Now he doesn't like the deal he made with congress and is trying to deflect blame to the republicans. He reminds me of a 3 y.o. - it's their fault that I'm not getting my way.

I applaud the congress for their efforts to try and keep the red ink pen out of obama's hands because we all know he is unable to man up to his agreements without this leverage. Maybe he will park AF1 long enough in the DC area to do his job - present congress with a reasonable budget proposal (something he hasn't done for the last four years).

  • 27 votes
#1.27 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:02 AM EST

Get real thats just stupid and you better hope whomever put those ideas in your head is not your financial advisor cause they are out to make a damn fool of you and it appears they have succeeded

  • 4 votes
#1.28 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:04 AM EST

The sequestor is a typical result of US politics, if Congress starts on something, it can finish...no political will, no political skill.

The GOP has mistakenly blamed the debt and deficit on the DEMs, but medicare prescription drug benefit, especially the 2 unfunded wars, and ever more....the recession (thus falling revenues) all contribute mightily to this fiscal crisis which can be solved only slowly. Before it's solved, everyone is blaming it on everyone else, just as you people here.

  • 14 votes
#1.29 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:05 AM EST

Good job earth girl, you have put your finger on the problem which is racism. Obama has a good agenda for the country. The republican parties only agenda is to demonize Obama.

  • 13 votes
#1.30 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:08 AM EST

How quaint that liberals now tout what the 2013 budget deficit is now only 800 billion as claimed by Johntho. I assume he got that number from the budget passed and signed into law by Obama? Wait, Democrats don't have the government running on a budget, just one spending resolution after another. So the reality of the deficit for 2013, it's anyone's guess. Of course in typical liberal fashion Johntho didn't provide proof, and he punctuated his claim with insults and name calling. Maybe Johntho also believes that we are now all going twice as far on a gallon of gasoline, even though that target doesn't supposedly happen for another 12 years.

  • 14 votes
#1.31 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:08 AM EST

a typo alert for #1.29

The sequestor is a typical result of US politics, if Congress starts on something, it can/can't finish...no political will, no political skill.

Sorry.

  • 11 votes
#1.32 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:10 AM EST

Thinker you can't think, it isn't Obama's debt ceiling, it isn't Obama's sequester, its all on congress and yes that is republican and democrats. However it was the republicans holding the country hostage that prompted the sequester. They should just pay the bills that they ran up. That is not the presidents job.

  • 14 votes
#1.33 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:11 AM EST

Doctor Logic --- "sequester" was an O'Bama creation and not the GOP's. The idea of a "Super Committee" was an O'Bama creation, not the GOP. When you have no funds and are facing a major debt, you cut your spending, you don't just "print more money". O'Bama has not only refused to cut spending, he has increased Government spending with his greatly increased Entitlement Programs. O'Bama doesn't govern, he travels around the country and gives people promises and doomsday For every dollar the Tax & Spend Democrats supported, they have supported more spending 10 fold.prophecies if he doesn't get what he wants. All he is doing is trying to deflect his total failure as President, it is always someone elses fault. There are several Psychiatric diagnosis that fit this behavior. O'Bama is using the "Scare to Voters to Death" philosophy, constantly give the Welfare crowd, the Aging Crown, Kids Programs visions of catasrophe and make yourself the Savior, and people will vote for you. The Welfare crowd is afraid that they may have to actually work. The Aging Population is afraid of changes to Medicare. O'Bama has already increased out-of-pocket expenses for Medicare and the Aging isn't even aware. The Aging Population sees O'Bama as a "Savior". Raise the ost of Medicare by 1 cent, and the Aging population cries that's too expensive and they have to choose between paying their bills or no buying the Medications. The current population on Medicare is by far the wealthiest age group. O'Bama likes to tell people that teachers, Fireman,Police, etc. will loose their jobs. In actuality, most of that funding is the responsibility of the States. While the Government will fund specific Grants in Aid, the States pay for the Majority of the cost. Next comes the threat to Head Start and Schools. O'Bama tells people that if if is not allowed to complete his agenda Head Start will disappear. His own staff have stated the Head Start is a failed project and there is no accountability for the funds. California was caught using money for Breakfast for Kids money to give Free Breakfast to anyone that came through the door. Again, the States control these funds. O'Bama is a Socialist Dictator who emulates the likes of the Socialist Dictator Karl Marx. Everyone that can do a search on the Internet or read, knows what happened to Karl. O'Bama has always used "Divide and Conquer" as a way of getting his programs funded, regardless of the cost and actual necessity of the Programs. O'Bama needs to be removed from the Office of President. He knowingly breaks U.S. Lawsand uses the U.S. Constitution as a door mat to wipe off the mud. If you want to see what America will look like under O'Bama reign, look at Russia. He has started a Revolution in this country and if he is not stopped that Revolution will be knocking at his door wanting his head.

  • 13 votes
#1.34 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:15 AM EST

Congress has passed a budget every year.....It never gets brought up for a vote in the Senate because Whore House Harry Reid refuses to let it be voted on. So then you get continuing resolutions with automatic spending raises for every government department.

Johntho, quit regurgatating Press Secretary Carneys BS talking points (you won't get facts there either). 2012 deficit was 1.1 trillion and has been over 1 trillion for the last 4 years. Google "2012 federal budget deficit". You'll see numerous articles CBS, NBC etc... that state that its been over one trillion each of the last 4 years.

We have added over 6 triilion to the national debt during the last 4 years. Even if we do what the President wants we won't have a balanced budget until 2020 long after Obama's out of office. By then the national debt wil be over 20 Trillion.

We can't keep kicking the can down the road!

  • 19 votes
#1.35 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:15 AM EST

Look stupid, yeah you rick, budget or not, which by the way is congress's baby, spending is a little above 800 trillion. Just because there is no budget does not mean we are not spending stupid. The cuts have came from many places, one thing is the Iraqi war has ended. That was a George W. Bush drain, of course you probably blame Obama for that too. stupid.

As far as gas, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? We are getting better mileage stupid, remember cash for clunkers. It had a side effect of getting some gas guzzlers off the road thus raising the mileage. Of course don't let facts get in the way of your bigotry.

  • 12 votes
#1.36 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:16 AM EST

You know a guy has no credibility when he/she plays the race card.

No inspiration like desperation.

  • 11 votes
#1.37 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:19 AM EST
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Big duke, barnyard bovine excrement, the CBO says 800 billion. Bigot. hang on to that, because it is all you got. Even if it was and it isn't, 1.1 trillion, that is a reduction in spending from the Bush years. He left Obama with a 1.3 trillion dollar budget deficit, two wars that have to be paid for, and a drug benefit and the elephant in the room was the tax cuts for the very rich. And none of that has anything to do with a tank of gas.

  • 13 votes
#1.38 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:20 AM EST

So stop hating Obama for his race then.

  • 10 votes
#1.39 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:21 AM EST

NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich.

You don't believe Obama but believed Romney could cut revenue 500 billion a year, spend 200 billion more a year on the military that no military leaders even asked for and 100 bilion a year or so for a new space program. Why do you right winger demand a democratic president balance the budget but were never concerned that Bush borrowed an average of 700 billion a year over his 8 years and Romney promised even more. Name anything Bush did to reduce deficit spending over his 2 terms.

  • 14 votes
#1.40 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:26 AM EST

My goodness, going on another vacation. Didn't he just come back from Hawaii?

Obama is meeting up with his rich friends in Florida.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/02/obama-to-vacation-in-palm-beach-156970.html?flv=1

Taxpayers money wasted again while the victims of Hurricane Sandy still struggling.

  • 13 votes
#1.41 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:28 AM EST

Congress has passed a budget every year.....It never gets brought up for a vote in the Senate because Whore House Harry Reid refuses to let it be voted on. So then you get continuing resolutions with automatic spending raises for every government department.

A republican budget that has no chance of passing. What would be the point in voting on a budget they know won't pass? If republicans submit a budget were willing to compromise maybe they can get one that wll pass. Nah, it'll never happen.

  • 12 votes
#1.42 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:30 AM EST

JohnB... Still trying to place blame on the republicans?? Republicans had no power in 2009 & 2010, did pass legislation in 2011 despite obamas continual efforts to keep poking them in the eye then and into early 2012.

Since ol' harry effectively kept most house past bills from any senate debate throughout 2011 and 2012 I have to assume that you are acting as someones lap dog in playing the same record over and over. I see that you even ignore that the senate (under democrat control) has yet to even submit any budget as required by the 1974 budget act.

As for the sequester let it happen. Why? Because it amounts to only about 3% of our total expected expenditures, and while the economy will take a hit, it won't be a significant hit.

Rather than trying to spin anything into what obama or congress for that matter, why not tell the real story on the deficit glide path you seem to be so enamored with? You know the one where the so called cuts are nothing more than a small slowing in the rate of goivernment expenditures.

What amazes me is obamas proclivity to want to kick the can down the road on the sequester + his rhetoric on continuing the growth of government without supporting revenues. His past insistance that the republicans spell out what that all he wants to do is to always have divisiveness within congress.

Several business leaders and economist have been interviewed on BloombergTV this part week. The takeaway is that the sequester will likely happen, it will not have the catastrophic effect that politicians say it will and that the politicians can still pick and choose specific funding allowances rather than just an across the board equal cut. In the business world it is called prioritizing.

One even made the "gasp" observation that spending cuts have been made by past administrations and congresses and that taxes have been increased as well. Yet we are still here today.

Trying to blame only the right is just inane JohnB.

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:31 AM EST

Come on Johntho sing along to the tune from the Rocky Horror Picture Show, lets play the race card again. Insults, name calling, race card, blame Bush, really is that all you have after more then four years? We know you don't need proof to spew the same talking points, which is why Obama feels no need to deliver. Cash for clunkers now has us going twice as far on a gallon of gas, that one is priceless. Even if the Obama claim at the SOTU had nothing to do with cash for clunkers, but this mythical mileage increase set to take affect 12 YEARS FROM NOW! Cash for clunkers, wasn't that part of the clunker Obama called a stimulus? With the not so shovel ready jobs? Or all the green we flushed down the toilet on green energy? Well Johntho you are rude, display no class, offer no facts, and are obviously a true believer. But here is a fact about the Obama recovery, if it were going any slower it would be going backwards, wait it did last quarter so never mind. Say Johntho, don't two quarters of negative growth in a row constitute a recession?

  • 12 votes
#1.44 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:43 AM EST

@ Johntho

I could care less what color the presidents skin is, or anyone else skin color. I don't like where the president is taking us. PERIOD Stop being a complete idiot

  • 16 votes
#1.45 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:44 AM EST
DamyouDeleted

Why must the Boner always pollute the air wwith his lies?

Boehner Not Budging on Sequester Until Senate Acts


House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer rejected the notion that the sequester was the president's idea, pointing to a budget proposal drawn up by the Republican Study Committee as the inspiration for the sequester.

"That is dead flat wrong. It is the policy included in their Cut, Cap and Balance bill as a fallback if we don't succeed," Hoyer, D-Md., said during a briefing Monday. "It is not our policy."

House Republicans passed legislation in the 112 th Congress twice to offset the across-the-board cuts, but after the Senate refused to consider either measure, those efforts expired at the end of the last session of Congress. Now, with a slightly different balance of power after the November election, Congress is essentially starting from scratch.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=18492025&sid=77&cid=77

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Furthermore, the Boner says he is listening to the American people. Obviously, not in this case or any other for that matter.


  • 14 votes
#1.48 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:54 AM EST

I think the Republicans will technically let the sequestration happen (even though, or because, they know it will hurt the economy) and then work on "fixing" the problems they've created before many of the cuts actually take effect. The Teaparty is a ball and chain not only the Republican Party, but on all of America.

  • 10 votes
#1.49 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:56 AM EST

Johntho - It's ridiculous to put the blame for a failure to pass a budget on Republicans not offering a budget "worthy of consideration;" that's not how it works. If the Senate doesn't like the Republican plan, it is up to them to come up with their own budget and submit it for a vote. The two budget proposals then go before a committee to come up with a compromise plan. However, if the Senate does not pass a budget proposal of their own, then there is nothing to compromise with. It is not president Obama's fault that a budget has not been passed; it is not the fault of the House; it is the fault of the Senate. Harry Reid has said before that he would not even allow a proposal to come up for a vote - even though Democratic members of the Senate have come up with budget proposals. You can't come up with a budget if half (Senate) doesn't want to play.

It's also ridiculous to portray the sequestration as "at worst was an agreement." It was not simply "an agreement;" it was a LAW - Budget Control Act of 2011 - passed by Congress and signed by President Obama. BOTH sides are at fault for the sequestration that will happen. You are right that the Congress has to come up with alternatives for the cuts, and the House has - TWICE; they were not passed by the Senate. The Republican's have offered changes and the Democrats wouldn't accept; yet, the Democrats have not offered any alternatives indicating changes that they WOULD accept. Funny how president Obama was quite willing to jump in and negotiate changes in the tax increase portion of the 2011 act; yet he doesn't want to get involved in the sequestration portion.

I also know the president is right, it is time to close the loopholes that these rich S.O.B.s have.

Then you are agreeing that the REPUBLICANS are right. The Republicans have been offering to close loopholes - "tax reform" - from the time of the 2011 debt ceiling debate all the way up to last December's negotiations to avoid the automatic tax increases. It's funny how president Obama wanted NOTHING to do with it back then. He was so hell bent on raising taxes on those who already pay their taxes that he didn't want to consider the Republican plan to go after the cheats who avoid paying income taxes in the first place.

So the answer to your question about how they can blame the president is probably the same as the reason that you can blame the Republicans.

Doctor - It's quite untrue to say that raising the debt ceiling has never before been an issue. It has been a contentious issue for many of the 100 or so times that it has come up. Arguments over funding govt. spending has resulted in govt. shutdowns twice during President Reagan's presidency, once during Bush, Sr., and the two longest during Clinton's presidency. So, rhetoric aside, it's usually a big deal.

  • 11 votes
#1.51 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:00 AM EST

Let's see now;

The 'Sequester' calls for about $1.2 trillion in Deficit reduction over 10 years ($120 Billion per year) - all in 'cuts in spending'.

The Republicans gave Obama his 'tax increase on the 'rich' for about $600 Billion over 10 years ($60 Billion per year).

It would seem that the Republicans have already done their part in providing HALF of the deficit reduction through tax increases - with NO SPENDING CUTS.

So why doesn't Obama agree to 'compromise' with the Republicans and provide the OTHER HALF of the deficit reduction with real spending cuts. He still resists ANY spending cuts.

In fact, the Republicans have reduced the needed 'sequester' spending cuts from $1.2 Trillion to only $600 Billion over 10 years.

Obama TALKS compromise, but his 'actions belie his words'.

  • 16 votes
#1.52 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:03 AM EST

Larry-367607

says "A republican budget that has no chance of passing. What would be the point in voting on a budget they know won't pass? If republicans submit a budget were willing to compromise maybe they can get one that wll pass. Nah, it'll never happen."

Lets see how is the process suppose to work? The president sends his budget to Congress, which Obama missed his deadline again this year. The House passes a budget, which they have done every year under Republican control. The Senate passes a budget, which they have not done for the past four years under Democrat control. The Senate can reject the House budget, pass their own budget, and then send it to committee to iron out the differences. Which is how the process is supposed to work. The House is not obligated to send the Senate a budget that will only be voted on if it will pass. Bills never have to be presented in that fashion, but Democrats seem to have forgotten how Congress is designed to work. The House passes a bill, the Senate passes their version, we meet in committee to iron out the differences. Seems simple enough even Democrats should be able to understand it.

  • 15 votes
#1.53 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:03 AM EST

Obama requested the 'Sequester' spending cuts.

Congress gave Obama what he asked for.

Obama signed his requested 'Sequester' spending cut bill.

Obama owns it, as well as the 'unintended consequences'.

Let the cuts begin.

  • 14 votes
#1.54 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:07 AM EST

Dr logic,

I spell it this way because of my severe doubt that either is true. However in all your ranting above you did put forth one true statement.

"Flatly put, the sequester is stupid policy."

I agree but what you didn't state was that this was Obama's baby.

He thought it up, gave it to congress, got it passed and now he want a retroactive abortion. TOO LATE!It's your baby, raise it. Don't be handing it off to some nanny. Take responsibility for it. It was your brilliant idea. I'll bet you thought if you did this the Republicans would NEVER let these kinds of cuts come to the DOD. Well, maybe they should and then they can do like you and go on another campaign trip like you're on right now and tell everybody "Hey, we hate this is happening but it it's President Obama's idea." "He's the one who thought this would work" How about we put the blame for this right on the doorstop of the guy who thought it up?

  • 6 votes
#1.55 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:14 AM EST

...if the tail fits...

  • 1 vote
#1.56 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:16 AM EST

DoctorLogic, you talk a good talk, but your words are messed up. When you brag that OB DID have a budget PASS, it was, in fact the budget of 2009, which was PROPOSED BY BUSH, NOT OB! The pres makes a proposal FOR THE NEXT YEAR, which Bush did in 2008. Congress is required by law to pass a budget EVERY YEAR, yet hasn't done so since 2009. It is to be approved by BOTH houses, then signed by the pres. The House approved it on time, but the Senate was 5 1/2 months late approving it. All OB did was sign Bush's budget.

You speak of OB's starting point being 1.1 trillion dollars, you left out a few pertinent details - Obama is on the FOURTH YEAR of trillion dollar deficits, going up to MORE than Bush's (1.3 trillion dollar deficit 2011). All he did this time, is REDUCE by 2% his usual deficit, which is always in the trillions. It's the same trick stores do when they want to attract customers in - they RAISE the price of an item, then REDUCE it, and call it a sale. That's an old trick, and you bought it, hook, line and sinker!

Obama is nothing more than a slick lawyer. He knows how to twist words around, to fool the listeners. And he's doing a good job of that.

Jontho, you need to stop insulting people, and get YOUR facts straight. You talk of "getting better mileage", but you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. The crap they're ADDING to our gas - ethanol - is giving our cars WORSE mileage, and ruining our engines - except for BRAND NEW CARS - just look in ANY automotive store (Napa, Pep Boys, etc.), and you will find a NEW ADDITIVE that you must buy to COUNTERACT the ethanol. Buy a new chainsaw, lawnmower, generator, and they'll tell you to NEVER put ethanol gas in it. You great approval of "cash to clunkers" shows you've been sucked in just like DoctorLogic. That's nothing more than a game the govt. is doing to get rid of older cars, and get you to buy NEW cars (stimulating the economy). It doesn't add that the governments - state and federal, are MAKING people get rid of cars on their property, or the govt. tows them away, and CHARGES the property owner. I had a dozen antique cars stored on my property (1925 - 1948), which I was parting out for a rather nice extra income, when I was told to clean up my property. I ended up selling them in one lot, for an absolute loss over what I PAID for them. I also have three antiques (1918 DB, 1924 DB,1928 Whippet), which I HAD to put in a garage, so they couldn't be seen by my neighbors - I had to build TWO garages. So, your "savior" has done nothing but cost me more money. I am on medicare, and I DO know how much OB has ALREADY increased my cost for it.

It seems strange that OB created "Obamacare", when we ALREADY had MEDICAID, which could have been upgraded at far less cost. Now we have TWO entitlement programs - by the way, Medicare and Social Security are NOT entitlement programs, because we put into it ALL OUR WORKING LIVES! the only reason SS is in trouble, is because our government noticed some time back, that SS had a large surplus, and moved THAT MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND, SO THEY COULD SPEND IT! They NEVER put a penny back!

When is John Q. Public going to realize that our government DOES NOT KNOW how to BUDGET, SPEND, SAVE or BORROW? That makes as much sense as loaning money to a drunk.

  • 14 votes
#1.57 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:17 AM EST

The CBO is only allowed to use the numbers provided to it by Congress. Congress provides it with the numbers that will result in the bottom line it wants. That is why the CBO initially said Obamacare (and Medicare) would be paid for. Of course we learned after Obamacare was passed that in fact it would not be paid for as budgeted in the bill. And we all know Medicare has over $20 TRILLION dollars in unfunded liabilities.

Anyone who knows how the CBO works, knows its numbers are suspect.

  • 3 votes
#1.58 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:19 AM EST

Broad, vague outlines, (no specifics), delusional pandering and pontificating - and again no budget and no leadership. Obama is just plain lazy.

  • 8 votes
#1.59 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:21 AM EST

Oquester is coming thank you for your failed leadership obama. Wake up liberals its time to wake up!!! Be honest with yourselves and realize this presidents failed policies aren't helping the economy, don't believe every lie MSN and obama tell you. Think logically for a change.

  • 7 votes
#1.60 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:25 AM EST

If we had a leader in the white house it would not even be an issue. Sadly we do not all we have is a social reformer who is totally clueless about anything else.

  • 6 votes
#1.61 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:28 AM EST

Dr. Illogical :

Flatly put, the sequester is stupid policy.

The sequester was Hussein's idea, in order to manipulate Congress in the past.

  • 6 votes
#1.62 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:35 AM EST

the wolf is at the door; when sequester was passed in 2011; both party's praised the effort; they were required to come up with a plan to cut spending and balance the budget and also propose a budget(which the administration sent to the senate, demo controlled and they shelved it); over 2 trillion has disappeared , 2,000,000,000,000., and no one knows where it went(Benarke at the hearing refused to tell congress what happened to the money); now that no plan has been proposed, the administration is threatening to stop social security payments, cut the military to the bone, and suspend all infrastructure payments to the states(welfare and aid to illegals will not be touched);

WE HAVE A LACK OF GOVERNMENT PROBLEM.

  • 4 votes
#1.63 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:39 AM EST

ROY WILSON-336103

Obama requested the 'Sequester' spending cuts.

Congress gave Obama what he asked for.

Obama signed his requested 'Sequester' spending cut bill.

Obama owns it, as well as the 'unintended consequences'.

Let the cuts begin.

That's awesome. Since Obama signed it, he's left holding the bag but the House and Senate get off scott-free when they are the ones who drafted this?

Let's not actually focus on solutions. Let's just focus on blame. The House, the Senate and the President all look like idiots during this. When political finger pointing becomes more important than real solutions, that's a sign of real problems.

  • 4 votes
#1.64 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:40 AM EST

Underground bunkers are being built, food is being stored, weapons and ammunition are being collected and chaos is anticipated.

What is driving this pandemonium?

Is it Armageddon, the Rapture, Mayan prophecy (again) or a rogue comet headed for earth? No, it’s something much more apocalyptic.

Sequester!

After a 2 month delay, the “end of the world as we know it” will be upon us. Voices on both sides of the political spectrum are warning of a disaster on near Biblical proportions. The Federal government will be subjected to a $965 billion reduction (GASP!) in projected federal spending over the next ten years.

Barrack Hussein critically warns “workers being laid off, kids kicked off Head Start, and food safety inspections cut.” Democrat Representative Linda Sanchez states that “Draconian cuts to critical domestic programs could devastate our current economic recovery.” National news stories are predicting the calamity that will be “devastating to national parks.” Warnings that the sequester would dismantle the military and the crippling effect these reductions will have on our nation’s security, have been made.

This is what happens when we allow the immeasurable incompetence we have in Washington today. This is what happens when we have no budget for FOUR (4) years! This is what happens when our government becomes the bloated unsustainable bureaucracy we have today.

But, as the article explains, 43 percent of Americans oppose letting the sequester take effect and 22 percent favor the automatic cuts. I can guarantee that 95% of these people have no idea what the “sequester” even means. What’s more terrifying is the 35% of Americans that have no opinion. This can at best be explained as, they have no clue. This is the shame of the American electorate.

The sequester is in many ways a lazy alternative to actually doing the hard work of budgeting. Of course we’re all taken back to last year and those dramatic back and forth negotiations between Barrack Hussein and Tammy Faye Boehner. The hand-wringing and teeth gnashing was incredible. In the end the symbolic “can” was dragged out once again and kicked down the road in typical Beltway fashion. A reprieve was given but judgment day is soon upon us, again. But is this devastating? Crippling?

Hardly.

First of all, the sequester is a “cut” to federal spending only in the “Washington” sense of “any reduction from baseline increases is a cut.”

THESE ARE NOT REAL CUTS!!!!!!

The reality is, even if the sequester goes through, the federal government will still spend $2.14 trillion more in 2022 than it does today. The sequester would reduce domestic discretionary spending by $309 billion over 10 years, but annual spending on these programs will increase by $90 billion over that time. If we will be spending more in 2022 in domestic programs than we are today it’s hard to see too many children starving in the streets. We will however continue to have our children graduating illiterate, but I digress.

Most importantly, entitlement spending, the fastest growing portion of the domestic budget, will hardly be touched by the sequester. It will continue to increase at the astronomical, unsustainable rate that is causing all our fiscal problems. Of course neither Barrack Hussein nor Tammy Faye Boehner has the balls to do what is right for the country. It’s all about maintaining their power grabs and maintaining their respective majorities.

Defense spending will decline initially, but on an inflation-adjusted basis, will never fall below 2007 levels. By 2015 it will begin rising again, surpassing 2012 levels ($554 billion) by 2019 and reaching $589 billion by 2021. Overall, annual defense spending will average $540 billion over the next ten years. By comparison, the United States spent, in 2013 dollars, an average of just $435 billion per year on defense during the Cold War (1948–1990), when we faced a much greater conventional threat. (This is only base defense spending, and does not include war spending $90 billion in 2014).

Of course yesterday Barrack Hussein once again referred to the “deep” cuts. There’s nothing “deep” about these cuts in the bigger scheme of federal spending. The current baseline calls for the federal government to spend $44.8 trillion between now and 2022. The sequester would reduce this by roughly $1.16 trillion (including reduced interest payments). That amounts to less than 2.6 percent of projected spending over the next ten years. In fact, over those ten years, the national debt would still increase by $8.5 trillion, reaching $24.9 trillion in 2022. And this is all assuming that future Congresses don’t undo the cuts in the out years.

For 2013, the only year that we know definitely counts, the sequester would slow the growth in federal spending by just $85 billion, from an expected budget of $3.55 trillion — less than a 2.4 percent reduction. When you consider that the federal government borrows $85 billion every 28 days, it’s hard to honestly call the sequester “Draconian”.

Domestic discretionary spending would be reduced by just $28.7 billion, out of a projected $587 billion. In following years, the difference from the baseline would run just an average of $35 billion. Entitlement spending, meanwhile, would barely be trimmed, it would be cut by just $14 billion in 2013, roughly 0.7 percent of our projected spending this year. That rises to a $23 billion reduction in 2022, which is still insignificant.

Isn’t it sad that we can diminish $23 billion dollars as insignificant? If this doesn’t scare event the most government worshipping Liberals/Progressives, they deserve all the hardship it will bring if continued.

After 10 years, even including the sequester, federal spending will still consume 22.9% of GDP, much higher than the last 70 year average of 19.8%. During Clintons last year, in 2000, government spending was as low as 18.2%, yet somehow we were able to have safe food, schools were open and dead bodies weren’t strewn all over the streets.

So, the sequester is by no means this two-headed monster that both pathetic political parties are whining about. Yes, it is flawed policy but it’s all we have to reduce government spending.

It is far too small and does nothing to really shrink government. It is, however, a first step. If Republicans can’t take even this tiny step it’s unlikely that they will demand the real Draconian steps and austerity needed to fix our economy and become prosperous again. We know that Barrack Hussein, and the Liberal/Progressive cabal, is too cowardly to do what is best for our great Republic.

If Boehner abandons ship and starts waving his white flag of surrender to reduce, eliminate or once again postpone the sequester our economy will continue to spiral out of control and the ratings agencies will once again lower our bond ratings. Once that happens the snowball effect will be quick and harsh. Unfortunately most Americans are in no position to weather this next real economic collapse.

The end of the world as we know it won’t happen if the sequester is allowed to happen, it will if we don’t let it happen.

My money is on incompetence from government once again.

  • 6 votes
#1.65 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:44 AM EST

To Johntho and everyone else out there accusing people of being racist:

Isn't Pres. Obama's mother white? Isn't Pres. Obama's father black? So who is it that you claim is being racist???? Is it the Black unsatisfied citizens because he's half-white, or is it the White unsatisfied citizens because he's half-black?

I am confused.

  • 8 votes
#1.66 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:46 AM EST

Repojam,

Actually the sequester was negotiated between Biden and McConnell and then adopted by Congress. It was drafted with the Presidents approval and the way he wanted it, but as you say they are all responsible.

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:46 AM EST

jerry l-1335133

Actually the sequester was negotiated between Biden and McConnell and then adopted by Congress. It was drafted with the Presidents approval and the way he wanted it, but as you say they are all responsible.

It's just the Budget Control Act at it again. Let's make a situation so bad that we'll all work together to avoid it. They agreed to do that. Now instead of avoiding the situation, let's point fingers.

It doesn't matter if McConnell and Biden negotiated it. Both sides (BOTH) thought enough of it to pass it through the House and to pass it through the Senate. When over 500 people were involved in this and let it pass and now those same people want to pass the blame around for this?

Pathetic.

  • 5 votes
#1.68 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:53 AM EST

Riddle me this- Why is it that the President doesn't get called a hypocrite for firstly putting the sequestration into the original fiscal cliff agreement and now no longer wants it and is blaming it on the GOP???

I'd have a modicum of respect for the guy if he just said, "You know, I made a mistake. I thought sequestration was a good idea but clearly it's not the time and we need to move away from it and figure out a better way." You know that he'd never admit a mistake, let alone a flaw in his perfection, so that will never happen.

  • 4 votes
#1.69 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:54 AM EST

This was BO's baby. Both sides had versions drawn up and this is what we got.

Even though this year will have actual cuts, after this year the cuts come from " proposed increase in spending". Say they proposed a seven percent increase in spending, now under this they get 5% increase in spending. Through Washington speak after this year there won't be any actual cuts. What DC prceives as a cut is actually just increasing spending at a smaller amout. DOH!

BO may feign shock at Pentagon cuts, but other than an obsession with raising taxes this is a close second cutting the military. He and most all Dems dream of this.

  • 3 votes
#1.70 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:55 AM EST

We need tax increases and spending cuts. GOP you bunch of fricken whiners, do the cuts across the board, no sacred cows. Quit your gd bitchin and get it done.

  • 2 votes
#1.71 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:57 AM EST

Simply put Obama care is going to bankrupt us! who is going to pay for it, the rich?? those that are still working?? it will cause more employers to lay off people so who will pay into the tax program?? OH I forget the rich. Wake up people and smell the rose's we the middle class will if employed pay for it we always have and always will. but right now that will not happen as there is not enough of us to do the task.

  • 1 vote
#1.72 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:58 AM EST

It's time to do away with 'Baseline Budgeting', wherein politicians ASS/U/ME that spending increases will occur automatically, which allows politicians to increase spending and call it a 'spending cut'.

If a Budget calls for more spending next year than this year, it should be called a SPENDING INCREASE and should be justified.

Interestingly when Obama says that he agreed to a 'cut in spending' that affects only future years, it is completely meaningless unless it's a cut in spending for the NEXT YEAR as part of current budget negotiations because each new Congress gets to set the actual spending budget on an annual basis.

That means that when Obama says "I cut spending by $1 Trillion" but it is all in 'future years', it is just 'smoke and mirrors' because those future years' Budgets will actually be determined by Congress when the time comes - for example, any 'Base Line Budget' for 2015 that Bush agreed to in 2008 has no validity for limiting Obama's spending requests when the 2015 Budget gets debated in a few years.

It's time to 'call a spade a spade'.

And, no - that's not 'racist' - see below for the Etymology of the phrase

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970115

  • 5 votes
#1.73 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:59 AM EST

ROY #1.52

Because Obama owns the GOP. He is smarter than all of the GOP clowns put together. Isnt is ironic that Obama seems to get most of what he has wanted on every single issue. Why? Because the GOP is short sighted and continuously paint themselves into a corner.

You do not need to worry about Obama destroying the GOP, the GOP are imploding all on their own.

  • 7 votes
#1.74 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:00 AM EST

RedRover ... Bo increased taxes 3 weeks into office, increased taxes in Obamacare, increased taxes in December. We pay MORE than the Clinton era now, so how much more should we raise taxes?

The only way out of our hole is to grow the economy. How will raising taxes on businesses encourage them to expand?

  • 6 votes
#1.75 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:02 AM EST

Roy i bet most people don't know what baseline budgeting is and how it sucks for the people. They actually think things are getting cut. Silly people LOL Somebody actually started a bill i think in the senate to get rid of baseline budgeting, and you can imagine how that went.

  • 3 votes
#1.76 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:05 AM EST

ROY WILSON-336103

It's time to do away with 'Baseline Budgeting', wherein politicians ASS/U/ME that spending increases will occur automatically, which allows politicians to increase spending and call it a 'spending cut'.

If a Budget calls for more spending next year than this year, it should be called a SPENDING INCREASE and should be justified.

The time for this was too long ago. Tying spending increases to inflation increases and to cost of living increases all to call it no change when it actually costs more needs to be reviewed heavily and put to a stop as well. Honest accounting is going to be needed if we actually want to become fiscally healthy.

We can't even get an honest accounting of change. How are they supposed to have an honest discussion, assuming they wished to, when you can put more funding towards something but not label it as a spending increase? If it's justified (i.e. yes, cost went up this year for transport, oil was up an average of x% over the year, so this cost is explained) then we can acknowledge it and move forward.

The more I think about it though, I think they might easily justify anything. With the amount of waste we are used to seeing, it wouldn't shock me to see them justify the waste just to justify it.

  • 4 votes
#1.77 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:06 AM EST

Double-Standard Obama:

Obama's Treasury Secretary Nominee Gets Free Pass on Cayman Islands Investments

By Katie Pavlich - 2/14/2013

Remember when Mitt Romney was repeatedly berated by President Obama and his campaign team for having perfectly legal investments in the Cayman Islands? As a reminder:

Romney has large investments in notorious overseas tax havens like the Cayman Islands and Bermuda. He had $3 million stashed away in a Swiss bank account that was closed in recent years for fear of political embarrassment.

It turns out, President Obama's former Chief of Staff Jack Lew, who has been nominated to replace Turbo-Tax Timonthy Geithner as Treasury Secretary, also had large investments in "notorious overseas tax havens like the Cayman Islands." Not to mention Lew took a huge bonus in 2009 just after the financial collapse from a bank that was bailed out by taxpayers. Even Dana Milbank at the Washington Post can see the irony:

It’s a bit, well, rich that Obama chose as his new Treasury secretary a man who received a big corporate payout for dubious work and who socked away money in the Cayman Islands.

This awkward fact pattern forced a role reversal Wednesday on Capitol Hill, as Obama’s nominee, Jack Lew, came before the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing. Republicans expressed outrage about his compensation and his investment — in other words, giving him the Mitt Romney treatment. And Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), an outspoken foe of offshore tax havens, helped Lew defend himself.

In Washington, where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit.

Lew, who was White House chief of staff while Obama’s campaign was pummeling Romney over his pay and taxes, received a $945,000 bonus in January 2009 after a brief tenure at Citigroup — just as the bank announced huge losses and took a taxpayer bailout. Lew also invested $56,000 in a Citigroup venture-capital fund registered in the Cayman Islands — registered in the very building, in fact, that Obama labeled “the largest tax scam in the world.”

So, when President Obama talks about "closing loopholes" for the rich who can afford fancy accountants who "take advantage of" the tax code, is he talking about Democrats too? Or just rich and evil Republicans? Mitt Romney never took a bonus from a company bailed out by taxpayer dollars, but Obama backed Jack Lew did.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/02/14/obamas-treasury-secretary-nominee-gets-free-pass-on-cayman-islands-investments-n1512372/print

"In Washington, where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit." How true!!!

  • 6 votes
#1.78 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:06 AM EST

Red, if BO owns the GOP that means all legislation falls directly on him.

hs321 .... the Dems only care if its a republican doing it. One of their own does the double of "Caymen tax havens" and getting a bonus from money funded by us taxpayers to bail out Citi. 2 big whammies that would have been front page news (like Mitt). But since its one of their own you hear crickets. And they whine of hypocrisy LOL

  • 5 votes
#1.79 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:07 AM EST

Oh yeah it is the Republicans standing in way of spending as suggested by RedRoverRedRover were liberal so bend over. Which is how compromise works in liberals minds. Need you be reminded that so far Democrats have cut nothing, and offered no cuts? There isn't a single proposal on the table everyone can read from Obama or the Senate Democrats to cut any spending. Even these pretend cuts Obama claims to have already made, are reductions in planned future spending increases, none of which have taken place, and we won't know until 2022 if they ever do. But let us not forget what Nancy Pelosi said just last Sunday, it is a false argument to suggest that Washington has a spending problem. It would seem Democrats are confused about the spending problem, or whether there should be cuts or not. So to get it done, we need actual participation from Obama and the Senate Democrats, as so far talk hasn't solved anything.

  • 7 votes
#1.80 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:07 AM EST

BigATC

Red, if BO owns the GOP that means all legislation falls directly on him.

100% correct. If they didn't have the fortitude to resist legislation they did not agree with from passing a chamber of Congress that they control, that is the fault of the President.

  • 2 votes
#1.81 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:12 AM EST

With any luck the next round of presidential candidates will soon come out so it will help our us take our minds off the failing inept obama, as we need real hope, and a light at the end of this 8yr dark tunnel.

  • 3 votes
#1.82 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:35 AM EST

Silver lining: this extraordinary sentence "And the president laid out no plan to eliminate the sequester and the harmful cuts that will come of it.”

Finally, the conservative world is admitting that cuts are harmful. After the false and incorrect cries of the last 4 years that "we have a spending problem" and "we need to cut spending to let the economy grow" and many other specious statements, with their nose stuck in it, the GOP politicians are finally admitting that spending cuts cause harm.

Thank God. I've been saying it for 4 years, and finally I got through to Boehner.

Now if I could only get Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and our conservative posters to understand...

  • 1 vote
#1.83 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:39 AM EST

RedRoverRedRover "ROY #1.52 Because Obama owns the GOP. He is smarter than all of the GOP clowns put together"

We'll see who's 'smarter' if Obama's brilliant 'Sequester' bill backfires on him.

The Republicans seem to have maneuvered things pretty well by voluntarily passing 'tax increases on the rich', so now the heat's on Obama to agree to some REAL spending cuts or have them forced upon him by his own machinations.

  • 2 votes
#1.84 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:40 AM EST

Down below someone wrote, when pressed for what to cut, " I would start with all Aid to All Illegals, No more Free Food, No more FREE telephones, No more Free housing, No more college Grants to Illegals, No more Free Healthcare for anyone, especially Illegals. All of that would tally up to about one Trillion per year."

This is the quality of conservative thinking. It is really the result of Fox News and others preying on the worst in mankind (jealousy, selfishness, lack of empathy) to create resentment and anger, and then profit off of it.

It has made conservatives mean-spirited and stupid. Worse, it has made them believe that a totally impossible thing is what we should try (cutting spending drastically to balance the budget).

  • 1 vote
#1.85 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:45 AM EST

"so now the heat's on Obama to agree to some REAL spending cuts"

This is the quality of conservative thinking. We can't come up with any practical spending cuts, so we'll wash our hands of the responsibility and make Obama do it. It's got to be easy. Just cut a trillion dollars out of the aid to illegals, Obama.

  • 1 vote
#1.86 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:49 AM EST

GWB Rambo mentality cost us a Nation, what was in the GOPTP water, maybe Rubio can tell you !!!

  • 3 votes
#1.87 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:51 AM EST

Who owns the 'sequester'?

Pretty simple: Senator Patty Murray, WA...under the direction of this administration. Just listen to her comments before these 'meetings' began.

She is just like the rest of this administration from the president on down. Nowhere to be found when the results of their crap hits the fan and, when you do find them, they're blaming someone else.

    #1.88 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:59 AM EST

    Looks like someone woke the savage O'Bama boys & girls & baby killers.

    • 3 votes
    #1.89 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:02 AM EST

    noncoms "so now the heat's on Obama to agree to some REAL spending cuts"... We can't come up with any practical spending cuts, so we'll wash our hands of the responsibility and make Obama do it."

    Since Obama is 'supposed' to be our leader, why shouldn't he 'take the lead' instead of blaming other people and finding excuses for doing nothing about the crippling debt he's building up to pass on to our children?

    When 'austerity' is forced upon us, like it has been for Greece, Obama's response will be "It's someone else's fault".

    He'll be remembered best for his "Leading from Behind" motto, which in warfare would be likened to cowardliness.

    • 4 votes
    #1.90 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:05 AM EST

    Of course yesterday Barrack Hussein once again referred to the "deep" cuts. There's nothing "deep" about these cuts in the bigger scheme of federal spending. The current baseline calls for the federal government to spend $44.8 trillion between now and 2022. The sequester would reduce this by roughly $1.16 trillion (including reduced interest payments).

    Or Federal government has been so FOS for so long - You are absolutely correct.

    What needs to occur is the President/Congress/Senate and government employees need benefits and entitlement modifications to come in line with thier budget.

    Reduce retirement benefits, reduce wages, freeze $ increase

    Reduce Health insurance to Ocare NO FEDERAL Health or life Insurance Purchase your own like everbody else.

    All areas of the above need to be on the table, reduce the costs due to poorly operated Federal Government and budget BS over the years. If you want to have effective government spending and budgets this must occur. Many businesses have done this is the last couple of years due to the economy and business profit model. OUR government Just spends away waiting for the money tree to grow - Well if you haven't learned money doesn't grow on trees you FOOLS. Our government are thieves if these things don't occur. Get inline with the current general econonic conditions of the US, you are not your own ecomomy with the fed creating money manipulating your dream world.

      #1.91 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:06 AM EST

      "No one said it's his responsibility alone. We've just pointed out accurately that the only reason it exists is his insistence on it," Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said Wednesday. "Given that fact, he, more than anyone, has responsibility to do something about it. And they've done nothing."

      I don't understand why Republicans continue to go after the President when it's Congress' job to write and pass bills. All the President can do is sign them. Congress holds the nation's "purse strings".

      Further, no matter how many times President Obama sets forth his "agenda" on the public record, the GOP comes back and pretends that they don't know what the President "wants".

      I feel Republicans are trying to manufacture "blame" and are trying to somehow soil this President's spotless reputation and all the good President Obama has done for the American People, in an attempt to shift attention away from what horrifying "leaders" and what "domestic terrorists" Republicans turned out to be during the last Republican Administation.

      The ONLY way the GOP could try to harm this President is for Republicans to continue to wreak havoc on the United States Economy and the American People, and that is all I see Republicans doing, wreakign havoc, creating arguments, and complain, complain, complain.

      • 3 votes
      #1.92 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:06 AM EST

      Roy,

      Obama put Medicare on the table in his State of The Union address. He is forcing the GOP to give up their "sacred cows" DOD and Prescription Drugs. We'll see who wins this fight, I am hoping that neither party wins, which means the American public wins.

        #1.93 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:11 AM EST

        American Girl,

        The sequester was negotiated by Biden with the blessing of the President, which makes him 1/3 responsible. His administration wrote the bill that was passed by both houses. You can try to blame the GOP but the Democrats have controlled at least 2/3rds of the government for the last 6 years so they have to accept most of the blame for problems if they take credit for all of the successes.

        • 4 votes
        #1.94 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:14 AM EST

        wilsonarden331 Good grief!! Peddle your @!$%# elsewhere!

        reading all the comments... Nothing is going to be easy. There is blame on both parties even still. So why can't pink slips be given now? Washington gets paid big bucks and they do absolutely nothing. Who came up with those fancy salaries if they work for We The People? *shakes my head*

        As for the folks that are retired and on Medicare, it is turning their world upside down. I hear it every day when things that used to be covered are no longer.

        • 2 votes
        #1.95 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:17 AM EST

        RedRoverRedRover "Roy, Obama put Medicare on the table in his State of The Union address"

        You're joking right?

        When Obama says he will 'put something on the table', what he REALLY means is "If you give me what I want, we'll TALK about what YOU want, so long as YOU take the blame."

        I see that you have a hard time differentiating between 'rhetoric' (We'll cut the Deficit in half by the end of my first 4 years'), and Reality (4 straight years of $Trillion PLUs Deficits).

        • 5 votes
        #1.97 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:24 AM EST

        TO: JOKER and a Mid Night -T who wrote:

        What needs to occur is the President/Congress/Senate and government employees need benefits and entitlement modifications to come in line with thier budget... [and] NO FEDERAL Health or life Insurance..."

        Reduce retirement benefits, reduce wages, freeze [all payroll] increase[s].

        It other words, take all the money away from American Workers including any pay raises, all their retirement money, their pension money, and hey you forgot to rob the poor, how about taking away those "food stamps" too?

        We know what happens then because Republicans did this same thing before under the last Republican Administration, Republicans will cut off the only revenue the United States receives, which is from taxpayers, there'll be no tax revenues to pay any of the bills the United States already has, and Republicans will once again start the 3rd Great Depression.

        How many times, exactly, will Republicans continue to return to their same exact "recipe for disaster"?

        • 6 votes
        #1.98 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:24 AM EST

        TO: jerry l-1335133 who wrote:

        "American Girl, The sequester was negotiated by Biden with the blessing of the President, which makes him 1/3 responsible. His administration wrote the bill that was passed by both houses. You can try to blame the GOP..."

        What is it with Republicans, can't take responsibility for your Republican Administration, demand that we stop blaming Bush who actually is to blame, so now that we stopped, Republicans want to start?

        The reason the Sequester "passed" is because Republicans voted for it too, and Vice President Biden cannot either write or pass any bill, that is the job of the United States Congress and is therefore Cognress' RESPONSIBILITY.

        Republicans ONLY keep mentioning the President and Vice President because of Republicans' thurst to sully the President's name because the last "president" Republicans installed turned out to be a Domestic Terrorist.

        • 5 votes
        #1.99 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:29 AM EST

        Why is it that Liberals insist on calling the rich "SOB's".

        As a liberal, I have never called myself a SOB. We are the ones who support the country; liberals are in the richer states and tend to be in the higher income brackets. What irritates us is that people who pay LESS are the ones who whine the most.

        • 3 votes
        #1.100 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:32 AM EST

        American Girl-724855 "Republicans' thurst to sully the President's name because the last "president" Republicans installed turned out to be a Domestic Terrorist."

        Domestic Terrorist??????????? Gee, I wonder if maybe you just identified yourself as a left wing extremist?

        By the way - what is a 'thurst'?

        • 2 votes
        #1.101 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:35 AM EST

        This whole conversation is stupid. At a time when the economy is really fragile, and interest rates are at historic lows, and unemployment remains stubbornly high, NOW is the time we want to shrink the economy through spending cuts?

        Why? So that we have more layoffs? The economy shrank 0.1% in January due to spending cuts in the defense budget. Do we want more unemployment, so that we can have less tax receipts so that we can have an even bigger spending problem in the future?

        • 3 votes
        #1.102 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:35 AM EST

        To reiterate the Conservative position on this, it would be "We demand immediate, substantial cuts to the federal budget and when we get them the negative consequences will be the fault of Barack Obama."

        Responsibility without accountability...the Conservative model for success.

        • 2 votes
        #1.103 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:37 AM EST

        American Girl,

        I did blame both parties which you refused to do even though they have controlled 2/3rds of the government for the last 6 years.

        • 1 vote
        #1.104 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:40 AM EST

        TO: jerry l-1335133 who wrote:

        "American Girl, I did blame both parties which you refused to do even though they have controlled 2/3rds of the government for the last 6 years."

        Well, but your beloved Republican Domestic Terrorists LIED to Congress and to the American People, so why should I blame anyone except the liars, especially since those lies eventually led the entire country into a Trillion Dollar useless War and the 2nd Great Depression?

        • 2 votes
        #1.105 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:44 AM EST

        American Girl has only one perspective; "Republicans have evil intentions and Democrats have angelic intentions".

        The idea that both parties might have good intentions - just different views on what's best for the Country, is a concept that is completely foreign to her.

        Bye - I have some work to do - 'Have a nice day' :)

        • 2 votes
        #1.106 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:47 AM EST

        What needs to occur is the President/Congress/Senate and government employees need benefits and entitlement modifications to come in line with thier budget.

        Reduce retirement benefits, reduce wages, freeze $ increase

        Reduce Health insurance to Ocare NO FEDERAL Health or life Insurance Purchase your own like everbody else.

        Or grow the economy so that we take in more money, while at the same tax rate.

        Because if we do any of the things you suggested above, the economy will shrink, people will pay less taxes. You aren't going to save any money and will quite likely make things worse.

        I realize that all the Right-Wingers simply HATE the idea of helping people because, apparently, anybody who needs help is lazy and stupid and a moocher, but the bottom line is these stupid, lazy people are part of the economy, and you cut them off, you are hurting the economy, and yourself.

        • 2 votes
        #1.107 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:48 AM EST

        American Girl,

        Why is it when people blame the President the Democratic answer is you can not blame him it is Congress that writes the laws but when people say the Democrats controlled 50% of Congress for 4 years of Bush and 100% for the last two the Democrat response is to blame Bush.

        You cannot have it both ways either the President is the leader of the nation or a follower.

        • 2 votes
        #1.108 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:56 AM EST

        Some on here are claiming that Obama bears no responsibility for creating a yearly budget.

        I would refer them to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921.

        That Law REQUIRES the President to submit a proposed budget to the Congress for debate, reconcilialtion, and approval.

        That Law also created the Office of Management and Budget, as a part of the Executive Office of the President, to assist the him in creating his budget proposal.

        The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 mandated the creation of a Congressional Budget Resolution.

        This is a JOINT resolution that is produced House and Senate Budget Committees. It that does not require Presidential signature and does not carry the authority of law.

        The problem is that Obama has NEVER presented a complete (written) budget proposal. He has only put forth disjointed suggestions - and Harry Reid has always blocked any Senate action on the budget process since Obama has been in office.

        • 2 votes
        #1.109 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:57 AM EST

        The spending cuts already done are real. The GDP went down slight because of the reduced spending in just winding down the wars. It was projected that the sequester cuts will cause another recession and declining GDP, reducing overall government spending and subsequent dependent private sector spending and resulting joblessness. Those of means can weather this decline, but the middle and lower class will not, since cuts will usually mean their jobs and not the top management. Cutting someone's salary 10% who earns 1 million is not as painful as one who earns 50 K a year. Real reductions in spending by those who actually buy goods and services will restart the cycle of decreasing revenues rsulting in decreasing jobs.

        • 2 votes
        #1.110 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:01 PM EST

        "... GOP leaders also no longer acknowledge their own role in pushing the measure through Congress. Boehner told CBS News at the time of the deal that he was happy with the agreement, and “got 98 percent of what I wanted.”

        Republican ongoing political strategy: "Lie and deny".

        • 3 votes
        #1.111 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:25 PM EST

        The Republicans will once again own this next recession if the sequester kicks in. The reason is because if Obama does what the Republicans want and cut spending, it will lower the GDP. If the sequester kicks in, it will also lower the GDP. Obama wants spending cuts offset with new income to reduce the impact of loss government spending to cushion the economy and keep it from going into the "reduced spending = loss jobs = reduced spending = lower profits = reduced jobs, etc", cycle.

        • 2 votes
        #1.112 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:28 PM EST

        Just like in the last recession, I intend to capitalize on those who will lose their jobs and have their homes and businesses foreclosed providing me and my peers with new opportunities to profit. The weathly always profits from someone else's turmoil.

        • 1 vote
        #1.113 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:36 PM EST

        don't they realize that they are playing with peoples lives here, if the sequester cuts go through, a lot more people are going to loose their jobs and unemployment goes up, economy goes further down the toilet.

        Why don't they cut their incomes to reduce spending? Another idea, for everyday past the budget deadline that goes by, their salaries are cut 20%, that is what will happen to a lot of the folks employed by the government, pay is cut by 20% and are furloughed one day a week.

        • 3 votes
        #1.114 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 PM EST

        Obama, YOU OWN SEQUESTER! What a little pantie-waist, lying, lily-livered, puke for POTUS. From day 1 his agenda has been to transform the US into his idea of a socialist country. He's never had any intention of working with conservatives, but only to propose wedge issues and lay political traps to demonize his opposition at every opportunity. His latest, 4 year old preschool. Study after study has shown NO long term benefit from these programs, that those who have been in these programs loose whatever advantage they had within a year or 2. Conservatives will oppose this and be branded anti-education. Even if it provided value, wheres the money coming from to pay for it? How did we ever educate people prior to these programs? Yet education was more effective in past generations. Nothing new proposed by the federal government has work, but instead made us dumber.

        • 1 vote
        #1.115 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:10 PM EST

        If the President is so concerned about the Sequester than why would he just two days ago say "now is the time" "now is the time" for immigration reform which means...11+million illegal immigrants would be granted amnesty...which means 11+ mouths to feed off the Government dole.

        Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

        What we have is a bunch of frightened little whiners who live off government handouts fearing that some of it may go away.

        The Welfare crowd is afraid that they may have to actually work.

        the administration is threatening to stop social security payments, cut the military to the bone, and suspend all infrastructure payments to the states(welfare and aid to illegals will not be touched);

        Just cut a trillion dollars out of the aid to illegals, Obama.

        I would start with all Aid to All Illegals, No more Free Food, No more FREE telephones, No more Free housing, No more college Grants to Illegals, No more Free Healthcare for anyone, especially Illegals.

        Noncoms says: This is the quality of conservative thinking. It is really the result of Fox News and others preying on the worst in mankind (jealousy, selfishness, lack of empathy) to create resentment and anger, and then profit off of it.

        Let's be honest. Isn't this what Republicans are really concerned about? Conservatives are really saying, it's those who are 'different from us" that cause the real problems. It's those 47% that really bring our country down. They are easy to blame, they don't have a lot of support, and we can very easily wrap all this bad economy around their necks. There's no reason to look at ourselves, when we have "them" to blame.

        The House passes a [budget] bill, the Senate passes their version, we meet in committee to iron out the differences. Seems simple enough even Democrats should be able to understand it.

        If that is true, then what happens with the President's budget?

          #1.116 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:12 PM EST

          The problem is that Obama has NEVER presented a complete (written) budget proposal. He has only put forth disjointed suggestions - and Harry Reid has always blocked any Senate action on the budget process since Obama has been in office.

          Fool, actually, the President has submitted a large, bound budget, as required by law, each year of his Presidency.

          After the President submitted his budget, the Republicans passed, in the House, their own budget, that was strikingly different from the President's (imagine that). Harry Reid never brought the Houses' version up for a vote because it would never have passed, and even if it did, the President would have vetoed it and it would not have been overridden in the Senate. Also, the Senate never voted on Obama's budget because it would never had passed the House, and why should he lock in Democratic votes for a budget that had no possibility of passing the House (that's how politics work).

          The same thing has happened every year Obama has been President, so, Republicans try to make a big deal about it, saying the Senate has never passed a budget, but, like most things the Republicans do these days, they end up falling on their faces.

          • 1 vote
          #1.117 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:48 PM EST

          foolishness abounds "The problem is that Obama has NEVER presented a complete (written) budget proposal. He has only put forth disjointed suggestions - and Harry Reid has always blocked any Senate action on the budget process since Obama has been in office."

          In all fairness, that statement is only half true. Obama HAS submitted Budget proposals for the last 4 years, but they typically have been ignored because they were totally unrealistic - In fact, Obama's previous Budget proposal was rejected by every Senator - even every Democrat that voted.

          The part of your statement that is TRUE is that Harry Reid has indeed blocked every Budget that has been passed by the Republicans in the House - in fact, he won't even allow that proposed Budget to be debated in the Senate because by blocking a vote, he is able to keep up the high level of spending as under the 'Stimulus' bill year, after year, after year despite the stimulus money already having been spent. He does this with last minute 'Continuing Resolutions' which lock in spending at those high rates allowed under the 'Stimulus' bill, without having to address those 'out of control' entitlements that the Democrats love so much.

          • 1 vote
          #1.118 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:18 PM EST

          StoptheCannibals-2908428 " After the President submitted his budget, the Republicans passed, in the House, their own budget, that was strikingly different from the President's (imagine that). Harry Reid never brought the Houses' version up for a vote because it would never have passed,"

          Making excuses for Harry Reid?

          The original House and Senate Budgets virtually NEVER agree, which is why the House Budget (where it starts by law) is normally passed first, and then debated and AMENDED by the Senate, and then a Joint Conference Committee meets to resolve any differences. THAT'S THE NORMAL PROCESS.

          The problem is that the President has met HIS obligation to submit a proposed Budget, the House has reviewed it and then made their own 'adjustments' to it and then passed THEIR version and sent it to the Senate for their review. For the last 4 years Harry Reid has said, in effect "I like this extra spending from the stimulus bill, so I'll just ignore the House Budget, which allows me to keep that high rate of spending, even though the 'stimulus' spending was supposed to end in 2010".

          Waiting until the last minute to pass a 'Continuing Resolution' which allows continued spending at the same level as the previous year, allows Reid to keep up the spending without having to justify it.

          That's the REAL reason that spending has not gone down in the last few years despite the end of the 'Stimulus' spending in 2010. - Obama and Reid get new 'stimulus' spending year, after year, after year, and demonize the Republicans for proposing cuts back to normal levels.

          • 1 vote
          #1.119 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:33 PM EST

          People we are in trouble. We have three groups of people who can't or won't agree and they are all politicians trying to use, and steal our money, then tell us it's for our own good and they don't have a lot of time to do it in. Save the Children, I think there will be a lot of AZZ and baby kissing coming up. In the end it's our fault we voted!!!!!!!

            #1.120 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:27 PM EST

            Let's just let the 'Sequester' cuts go thru and see what the results are?

            We added $535 Billion to spending in just Obama's first year alone (2009).

            I have a hard time believing that just reducing that huge amount of extra spending increase by a miniscule $85 Billion could be that drastic.

            • 1 vote
            #1.121 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:30 PM EST

            Roy how many families you willing to take care of???

              #1.122 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:33 PM EST

              bubba-1946427 "Roy how many families you willing to take care of???"

              Mine. Of course Obama wants anybody that pays income taxes to also 'take care of' all of those families on welfare as well - you know, the ones that voted for him overwhelmingly.

              It's a little known fact that Obama won the the 'welfare vote' (those eligible for welfare making an average of less than $30,000 per year) by a margin of about 12.9 million votes (22.3 million votes for Obama vs 9.4 million votes for Romney), and Romney won the other 75% of votes (the ones that paid the income taxes to support those on welfare) by a margin of 8 million votes. The net result was a 4.9 million vote margin for Obama - thanks to those on welfare. Perhaps you didn't notice those Democratic ads that implied that "Romney will take away your food stamps".

              Now Obama wants to 'reward' those on welfare with more 'freebies' - at taxpayer expense. We simply cannot afford the idea that we need to keep giving more, and more, and more to those who will not or cannot take care of themselves - mostly because of the poor decisions that they themselves made in their lives.

              • 1 vote
              #1.123 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:15 PM EST

              There's been times over the last 48 months that Barack Obama - looks in the mirror - and says out loud -

              "I still can't believe they don't know what's going on!"

              "It doesn't seem real - this is happening way too easy"

                #1.124 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:05 PM EST

                Marcus D-4300696 "There's been times over the last 48 months that Barack Obama - looks in the mirror - and says out loud - "I still can't believe they don't know what's going on!" "

                Proof positive that you can fool most of the people ALL of the time.

                • 1 vote
                #1.125 - Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:04 AM EST

                Proof positive that in the eyes of Conservatives the only problem with our democracy is that the wrong people vote.

                Not exactly the American way...

                  #1.126 - Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:42 AM EST

                  We could avoid a lot of these last minute spending anomolies if they would pass a freakin budget.

                    #1.127 - Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:43 PM EST

                    Even John Boehner admitted to the Press that the Sequester is a very bad idea. Unfortunately, the Fiscal Libertarians and Tea Partiers in the GOP want it to happen solely to reduce the size of the public sector -- no matter what the cost to the American People.

                    • 2 votes
                    #1.128 - Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:07 PM EST

                    The House has passed TWO bills to replace the sequester....the Senate and OBAMA have come up with ziltch! Who has done their work and who hasn't?

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.129 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:58 PM EST

                    And what was in those two bills?

                      #1.130 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:09 PM EST
                      Reply

                      I don't see what's wrong with the sequestration (and the fiscal cliff earlier the year) and it's better than nothing as Sane-2794278 said. Both parties need to drop their ideals and deal with the problems: the problem of no compromise, complex tax codes, rebates and deductions, welfare and healthcare costs, and the consequences of overspending.

                      • 14 votes
                      #2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:09 AM EST

                      Do you really understand the ramifications to the overall economy. Hundreds of thousands of people put out of work? How about Main Street when these newly out of work people have no money to spend? Longer waits for government services?

                      • 10 votes
                      #2.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:58 AM EST

                      NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich. Enter younger kids into pre school. Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

                      • 9 votes
                      #2.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:36 AM EST

                      Like Obama said at the SOTU address, Washington has to stop going from one manufactured crisis to another. Yet here we are with another manufactured crisis in the sequester. As if cutting 85 billion this year, or 1.2 trillion over 10 years is going to be catastrophic for our government. A government that is projected to spend 44 trillion over the next 10 years, and with sequester will spend 43 trillion. As if there isn't 85 billion in waste they could cut out today. But like every manufactured crisis in Washington they claim the sky will fall if these cuts go through, and yet they should add to that bogus line that only because we are cutting where it will be most painful and not where there is waste. In the time honored tradition of the Democratic party every cut means taking food out the mouths of children, dirty air, on the backs of seniors, or only benefits the wealthy. But I guess when liberals take it all in as the gospel truth, why should politicians stop lying?

                      • 14 votes
                      #2.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:50 AM EST

                      "...Washington has to stop going from one manufactured crisis to another."

                      Like starting kids in preschool at age 4. Head Start statistics show that kids who went through the program are better off than similar kids that didn't when the kids start grade school. By 5th grade, you cannot distinguish a kid who went to Head Start from one who didn't. Head Start is a waste of tax payers money as it makes no difference in the long run. And now Obama wants to start kids in school at age 4. Based on what? He just needs something to use to distract from gun control and amnesty.

                      Remember the lines from Swordfish?

                      Gabriel: Have you ever heard of Harry Houdini? Well he wasn't like today's magicians who are only interested in television ratings. He was an artist. He could make an elephant disappear in the middle of a theater filled with people, and do you know how he did that? Misdirection.
                      Stanley: What the f… are you talking about?
                      Gabriel: Misdirection. What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes.

                      Obama is a master at misdirection.

                      • 14 votes
                      #2.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:59 AM EST

                      jupiter: It appears the Democrats in Congress are ready to compromise, however, the repub/tparty think they now have the chance to destroy the social safety nets, especially SS and Medicare. The GOP has been after SS for decades - their need to have 'grandma on the street' is one of their top priorities. Same with health care. Interesting that the poor states, those that receive more from the feds than they put in, continually vote for the GOP. They have no idea that without the Democrats their safety nets will be gone. Whatever.

                      The big money boys have and still are spending billions getting their well paid repub/tea party in Congress to further their own agenda. The big money boys need to destroy the middle class; then they'll have a fully compliant labor force to quash at will.

                      • 10 votes
                      #2.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:03 AM EST

                      Hey, earthgirl

                      jupiter:... the repub/tparty think they now have the chance to destroy the social safety nets, especially SS and Medicare. The GOP has been after SS for decades - their need to have 'grandma on the street' is one of their top priorities.

                      Yeah, U R right. The last time the GOP went after these two popular programs was (1) GW Bush who wanted to privatize social security in his 2nd term, even GOP memebers of Congress refused to go along, saying to Bush, 'if you lead (in privatizing social sesurity), we will be hehind you, way behind you.' Imagine how much values people's ss investment would lose in this recession!!!!! Good that Bush failed. (2) Paul Ryan's voucher plan for medicare that was partly responsible for Mitt Romney's defeat

                      • 7 votes
                      #2.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:18 AM EST

                      "...however, the repub/tparty think they now have the chance to destroy the social safety nets, especially SS and Medicare." ... "...their need to have 'grandma on the street' is one of their top priorities."

                      Old, tired and worn-out liberal talking points. Turn Matthews, et. al. off and think for yourself.

                      • 10 votes
                      #2.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:21 AM EST

                      hs321 -

                      Obama and his minions want to start brainwashing the kids at a younger age.

                      • 10 votes
                      #2.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:28 AM EST

                      Earthgirl...

                      As I approach drawing SS and reading what the SS trustees say about its funding and the medicare people say about that funding. Then I reflect on what reagan and o'niel did for a fix in the 80's and how bush2 got soundly trashed by congressional republicans for wanting to eliminate SS around 2005 (?). I really have to wonder about why you say the sky is falling because the republicans have a plan.

                      Gee earthgirl, this isn't 2009 and 2010 when the democrats controlled both the WH and congress to such an extent that they didn't really need input from the republicans for any type of balanced legislation.

                      Let the house pass whatever they desire to give us a sustainable path for SS and medicare. If ol' harry reid is even remotely smart he will allow the houses plan to be debated and "gasp" parhaps have the senate create their own plan so that both the senate and house plans can be reconciled and passed. Who really cares what one side proposes, the bottom line is that our constitution allows for senate and house bills to have reconciliation. Obama needs to STFU about it untill a house and senate approved bill hits his desk, then he can approve, veto or send it back for changes. You know follow the fundamental rules as set forth in our constitution for a bill to become law.

                      • 9 votes
                      #2.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:54 AM EST

                      If they raise the minimum wage does this mean I'll finally get a raise or is he still working with immigration reform, seems its all he's interested in. I have to be honest I could really use a raise after all he's done for the economy.Case in point my bank Wells Fargo going for the juggler now.

                        #2.10 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:58 AM EST

                        Paranoid much there earthgirl?

                        Have you ever talked to a Republican?

                        their need to have 'grandma on the street' is one of their top priorities.

                        Please give me the name of one person in America (GOP or DEM) that has a desire to have a grandma transition to homelessness. I am offended by your statement as much as I am by the statement that "All Dems want everyone dependent on the government".

                        The top priority of this Republican is to continue the tradition of America that provides unlimmited opportunity for all Americans regardless of race, religion, age.... Making old people homeless will never make my list.

                        • 9 votes
                        #2.11 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:01 AM EST
                        DamyouDeleted

                        Damyou,

                        Just like the price of gas increasing, now that the elections are over, those who have a beef with new programs are taking advantage of the misdirection of everyone's attention. Taxes and budget are on everyone's minds, and the fact that the Congress can't agree on anything.

                        The greed of large corporations is showing its ugly head yet again.

                        The Tea/Publicans are trying despirately to divert the attention of the American public from the fact that their party has done nothing since they took the majority back from the Dems in the 1980s but protect the bank accounts and portfolios of the ultra wealthy in this country. It's pathetic.

                        The ONLY item that was the hitch in passing the budget during the last 5 votes was leveling the tax rate for those making over $1 million annually. If the Tea/Publicans would have allowed that to happen, we would not be in this mess.

                        Though I agree there needs to be an accounting made on all of our special programs, there also needs to be an accounting on the benefits Congress gets. Having a set income after serving one term in Congress? Ridiculous. Having all medical and dental paid for the remainder of their lives? Really? Since most of these people have made politics a career, and don't have a clue how to LIVE with the decisions they've made for us, they don't have the RIGHT to NOT have to live with them when they leave Washington!!!

                        That alone would remove close to $1 billion from the US budget.

                        • 5 votes
                        #2.13 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:38 AM EST

                        The only actual "cuts" are this year. After this, they are just increasing spending at a lower rate. In 10 years instead of increases being 8 trillion, now the increases will be 7 trillion. And they sell this to us as cuts.

                        • 3 votes
                        #2.14 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:23 AM EST

                        TO: Byron Raum who wrote:

                        "This whole conversation is stupid. At a time when the economy is really fragile, and interest rates are at historic lows, and unemployment remains stubbornly high, NOW is the time we want to shrink the economy through spending cuts?

                        Why? So that we have more layoffs? The economy shrank 0.1% in January due to spending cuts in the defense budget. Do we want more unemployment, so that we can have less tax receipts so that we can have an even bigger spending problem in the future?"

                        Bryron, Republicans have absolutely no practical understanding of United States Economics and they don't care.

                        The only thing that concerns Republicans is how they can save $1 in taxes.

                        Nobody and nothing concerns Republicans except how much money they extract from the economy and they could care less about any kind of "social issue" unless you're talking about Ruling the Womb, and if a child is born as a result of Republican efforts, you can bet your retirement that Republicans wouldn't put a crumb of food in that child's mouth.

                        • 3 votes
                        #2.15 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:59 AM EST

                        TO: JC in G who wrote:

                        "... The top priority of this Republican is to continue the tradition of America that provides unlimmited opportunity for all Americans regardless of race, religion, age..."

                        No, that's not true, and Republicans' Policies prove that statement is 100% bogus.

                        Now if your statement refers only to the WEALTHY and no one else, I can see where you're trying to go with your misleading statement.

                        However, Republicans have already admitted that Republicans believe that 47% of the American People are losers.

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.16 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:05 PM EST

                        TO: jerry l-1335133 who wrote:

                        "American Girl, [why is it that] people blame ... Bush and 100% [but not Congress?]"

                        Because when Bush lied us into war in Iraq and immediately shipped hundreds of thousands of American Troops to Iraq, it literally FORCED Congress to fund that war because only Bush had the power to bring them home, and Bush told us he would never bring our troops home and Bush never did.

                        When Bush announced that our Troops would not be brought home as long as Bush was in office, we had no choice but to fund the troops and ostensibly fund the war.

                        I don't suppose you jave any recollection whatsoever that Bush repeatedly threatened Congress with closing down portions of the government and leaving our troops on the war field without weapons, I bet you don't have any recollection whatsoever about anything that occurred when Republicans controlled the White House, do you?

                        • 3 votes
                        #2.17 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:15 PM EST

                        "... GOP leaders also no longer acknowledge their own role in pushing the measure through Congress. Boehner told CBS News at the time of the deal that he was happy with the agreement, and “got 98 percent of what I wanted.”

                        Republican ongoing political strategy: "Lie and deny".

                        • 3 votes
                        #2.18 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:24 PM EST

                        American Girl,

                        That really sad part of your statement is that you believe it.

                        TO: JC in G who wrote:

                        "... The top priority of this Republican is to continue the tradition of America that provides unlimmited opportunity for all Americans regardless of race, religion, age..."

                        No, that's not true, and Republicans' Policies prove that statement is 100% bogus.

                        "This Republican" refers to me. Amazing how you know what is in my thoughts.

                        Now if your statement refers only to the WEALTHY and no one else, I can see where you're trying to go with your misleading statement.

                        My statement does refer to a "Rich" person. Me. While I am not wealthy, I consider myself "Rich" because I have more opportunity than most people in the rest of the world. I value the chance I have to make myself and my family comfortable (Well fed, safe, optomistic, shelter, entertained...) and the opportunity to give back to society through my good deeds.

                        However, Republicans have already admitted that Republicans believe that 47% of the American People are losers.

                        This Republican has never believed that 47% of the American people are losers. Many Americans have different political views than I do, but that does not make them losers. People are capable of making themselves losers regardless of their political belief. People are also capable of making themselves winners regadless of their political belief. A person has to decide if they want to be a loser or a winner.

                        Take a moment to consider that (According to you) one in three people that you encounter during your daily life want elderly people to be homeless, or children to go hungry, or sick people to die. Seems pretty ludicrous to me. Have you really ever heard a Republican, Democrat or Independent say: "I want that old lady to go hungry and live under a bridge."?? There ought to be a way for civilized people to disagree about government policies without making ridiculous claims for the "Shock effect" of trying to change opinion.

                        I am capable of realizing that Americans generally want the same things for themselvess, family and society in general, but disagree on how to get there. Are you? We have more in common, than differences.

                        • 1 vote
                        #2.19 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:21 PM EST

                        TO: JC in G who wrote:

                        "American Girl ... "This Republican" refers to me... Take a moment to consider that (According to you) one in three people that you encounter during your daily life want elderly people to be homeless, or children to go hungry, or sick people to die..."

                        Contrary to what Republicans would like to believe "one in three people" are NOT Republican.

                        If that were true, Mitt Robme would be POTUS, but he's snot.

                        "[Republicans] want elderly people to be homeless, or children to go hungry, or sick people to die. Seems pretty ludicrous to me.

                        That only goes to show that some folks don't realize what would likely happen to others as a results of their actions.

                        This just serves to make my point that some Republicans are so self-centered they can't think beyond the nose on their face.

                        As a result of the collapse of the entire United States Economy under the last Republican Administration, some folks are STILL oblivios to the fact that millions of families lost their homes and their jobs. I don't suppose you could imagine what would have happened to those families had it not been for President Obama extending unemployment benefits.

                        It seems difficult, of not impossible, to change that "I'm fine, so screw you" attitude of some Republicans.

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.20 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:10 PM EST

                        Johntho

                        Obama was handed a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit budget, the deficit is now 800 billion and change@johntho,

                        Don't have a clue as to where you get your "facts" and figures but you are wrong. We will run a $1.2 to $1.3 trillion deficit this fiscal year.

                        I am a Dem and I believe we should let these cuts occur. Congress, who'se job it is to debate and pass bills, has failed miserably. Nor is it just one party or the other. BOTH parties are failures to the American people. The only group they haven't fail is their corporate masters. They are doing well.

                        What almost every one of you fail to see is this: these cuts only slow down the rate of deficit. They do nothing to deal with this country's debt. In fact, even with these cuts, we will add, without more cuts/tax increases, almost $10 trillion more to our debt over the next ten years. Our military spending is extremely bloated, as is homeland security, and most other areas of government. Let's do away with foreign aid, the farm supports, etc. Let's reform the tax structure and entitlement programs. However, Social Security, military pensions, government retirement ARE NOT entitlement programs. These are programs people have paid into, either cashwise or years of their lives. Unfortunately neither Congress nor the American people, and that includes most of you on here, don't have the kahones to back up your posts by your actions.

                        The first step for everyone of you misguided people is this: quit blaming the other side. Your side is just as guilty as the side you are blaming. We, the American people, are the ones to blame. We are the ones who've let this country slip away. We are the ones who continue to reelect the same incompetent people, then we whine and cry, and blame the other side. Look in the mirror folks. It's not a pretty sight.

                        • 1 vote
                        #2.21 - Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:23 AM EST
                        Reply

                        All taxes are going up, how else will he pay for his foolish spending. I feel for those that did not vote for barry o.

                        • 15 votes
                        #3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:11 AM EST

                        What specific spending are you referring to as being "foolish"? In other words, if you had a list of all spending done, what would you cut?

                        • 9 votes
                        #3.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:35 AM EST

                        @ VLGil

                        Obama didn't cause this problem. He has just failed to fix it. And let's be honest here: the repugnicans have done everything in their power- legal and otherwise- to prevent him from fixing it. Plenty of blame to go around? Yep. But the 'pugs won't be able to get their share on a plate. It will take a picnic table or buffet table for them. They conspired against their own country on Obama's inauguration night just to try and make him look bad.

                        • 13 votes
                        #3.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:52 AM EST

                        Part of this "foolish spending" was bailing out the banks, which otherwise would have crashed the entire financial and economic system. So tell me why the 'pugs tried to block the Dodd-Frank Act and then tried to stop Obama from staffing the regulatory agency it created. Once they failed at both of those attempts, they then went to court and sued to keep Obama from doing the same thing that Boy George did for 8 years (recess appointments). It is quite obvious that the failure to regulate banks caused much of this train wreck and cost us dearly in terms of money and human misery and yet the 'pugs seem determined to repeat the mess and exonerate the guilty. Possibly Obama's greatest failing is his failure to prosecute the bank executives responsible for this mess and the credit rating agencies and his apparent refusal to investigate whether the little soiree of the GOP on Jan. 20th, 2009 rose to the level of treason and conspiring against the US.

                        • 14 votes
                        #3.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:11 AM EST

                        POS PRESIDENT we will not raise taxes on the middle class, well everyone got suckered into that BS

                        • 16 votes
                        #3.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:51 AM EST

                        Doctor Logic. You have a very easy Question, if we had anyone in Congress with any gazunkas. What would I cut? I would start with all Aid to All Illegals, No more Free Food, No more FREE telephones, No more Free housing, No more college Grants to Illegals, No more Free Healthcare for anyone, especially Illegals. All of that would tally up to about one Trillion per year. Cut all Real pork out of all Legitimate bills. Cut the Military to about one half of what it is now. Pull out of Afghanistan the day after the United States killed Bin Laden, OOps to late for that one. Create jobs by traing Americans for the Round-up of at least eleven million Federal Lawbreakers, better known as Illegals. I would Man the border and shoot anyone trying to Sneak into the United States. I would cut ALL FUNDS to foriegn countries, especially the ones who hate us. Sometimes, you have to take a Hard Line, but our Congress and Senate arent serious about getting our Finances in order, they prove it everyday.

                        • 12 votes
                        #3.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:57 AM EST

                        NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich. Enter younger kids into pre school. Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:36 AM EST

                        NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich. Enter younger kids into pre school. Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:38 AM EST

                        Come on Obama told everyone at the SOTU address that he has already cut spending and achieved 2.5 trillion in deficit reduction. Of course we still have trillion plus annual deficits, our national debt continues to rise, and we need to raise the debt ceiling to stay a float. But much like Obama claimed we can now all go twice as far on a gallon of gasoline, or at least cars you buy 12 years from now might, that 2.5 trillion in deficit reduction might be an honest statement if you remember he made it in 2022. Until liberals start holding Obama accountable, these statements steeped in myth will continue.

                        • 11 votes
                        #3.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:57 AM EST

                        "Until liberals start holding Obama accountable,..."

                        Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

                        • 14 votes
                        #3.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:06 AM EST

                        Pretty telling how Iceland is thriving, and America is treading water. At least they held those responsible to the fire.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.10 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:47 AM EST

                        DocLogic(?)...

                        Just from the discretionary side the easiest would be straight across the board cuts. Then each department would have to find ways to reach their new budget amounts. You know, no crying about how to live with a reduced budget. If they want to maintain their bottom line distribution of fundsto the end user, then they will have to eliminate any waste in their department.

                        Yes this would apply to the DoD as well.

                        We can also sharply reduce any federal government department that heavily duplicates our states departments. For example, downsize the federal department of education so that it only provides guidence for a unified short and long term education plan between states and distribution of federal funds to see that plan forward. BTW - get rid of no child left behind and race to the top. Fund distributions should be made mainly to those states that have created an effective education plan.

                        The same process could be applied to other departments as well. there need not be any sacred cows.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.11 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:17 AM EST

                        Thomas Blue - Obama didn't cause this problem.

                        Oh, yes, President Obama did. Go read post#1.11, insert Thomas Blue for DoctorLogic, and answer the basic questions at post#1.11.

                        Thomas Blue, you want to talk about the Cause of the current $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc.

                        Ok, what was the Cause. You want to play the Blame Game, what Political Party did that, and which US President and what date(s).

                        wascigarman - Cut the Military to about one half of what it is now.

                        President Obama as Commander In Chief April 2009 Ordered US Military Budget Cuts with the Results of:

                        Pricey Jet Fighters Add Up To Local Jobs

                        CBS Evening News: Funding For F-22 Jets Is On The Chopping Block, But Building Them Keeps 95,000 People Employed

                        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/25/eveningnews/main4893248.shtml

                        2. The US Labor Unions (almost a hundred thousand) threatening to Strike on the Steps of the Whitehouse, if One USN Aircraft Carrier Strike Group that they maintain was cut as stated by President Obama's April 2009 US Military Budget Cuts.

                        3. President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military to be thrown on Unemployment further straining the Veteran's Affairs; the Unemployment of 108,000 DOD Civilians. During his last visit to Afghanistan Secretary of Defense Gates stated that he will tender his Letter of Resignation in protest.

                        4. President Obama demands an 11% US Defense Budget Cut. Secretary of Defense Penetta, 2012, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed". President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders a 50% chop of the US Military. Secretary of Defense Penetta states that he will tender his Letter of Resignation. 2013 Interview, Secretary of Defense Penetta, will go home to work on my Walnut Farm to work with a different kind of Nut.

                        wascigarman - Pull out of Afghanistan the day after the United States killed Bin Laden

                        In October 2001 that was NOT the reason we went into Afghanistan. Our mission attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG, was to Overthrow the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban Government, eliminate Al Quada and the Islamic Jihadists that sponsored the 9/11 2001 Attacks.

                        By December 2001 Afghanistan became a United Nations Mission, Nation Building. That was about the time that we lost all our gains as NATO appointed Gentleman British General McColl as the Commander ISAF, and he did nothing to stop the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists we chased into Pakistan, Northern Iraq, etc. from returning to Afghanistan. And we could do nothing because we were at Northern Iraq conducting Operation Viking Hammer as the elimination of the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists that we chased into Northern Iraq from Afghanistan on the Old Silk Road that combined with the Fundamentalist Islamic Kurdistanis PKK, HPG, KGK and became Ansar Al Islam.

                        If you want to know how all this crap started with here and Iraq, start with the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone.

                        President Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address Demanding: The Overthrow of President Hussein as US Policy justification Weapons of Mass Destruction; US Support of the Holy Warriors of Islam at Bosnia, etc..

                        Transcript President Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address

                        http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/01/27/sotu/transcripts/clinton/

                        President Clinton's US Law, H.R.4655, "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, Section 2 Findings (Justifications) Weapons of Mass Destruction.

                        President Clinton's H.R.4655

                        http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1057063/posts

                        President Clinton as Commander In Chief Ordered 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox, that Failed to Overthrow President Hussein and Resulted in the Islamic World Condemning the US as the Great Satan, and in Retaliation Osama Bin Laden starts planning the 9/11 2001 Attacks of the same targets as before of his 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings. President Clinton's Refused offer of a US Ally of the Extradition of Osama Bin Laden. President Clinton's refusal of requested evidence by a US Ally of Osama Bin Laden's involvement with the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombings. So without sufficient evidence the US Ally released Osama Bin Laden from detention. President Clinton refuses to give Presidential Authorization to Terminate Osama Bin Laden using the excuse of the US No Assassination Policy. Later President Bush (43) Amended the US No Assassination Policy to Authorize the Termination of Osama Bin Laden failing his Capture. Harvard International Review, 2006, Article, "US No Assassination Policy On The Offensive"; after by 2001 Standing Executive Order the Locating and Capture of Osama Bin Laden as Delegated to the Director of the CIA, Commander US Military Special Operations Command, Commander US Military Joint Special Operations Command.

                        Previously, the Director of the CIA Bush, later President Bush (41), had built up the US Intelligence Agencies to be the Envy of the World after the Fall of the USSR and the KGB.

                        It was President Clinton's Belief that the Cold War Era US Defense, US Intelligence Agencies, US Military were no longer needed, so:

                        President Clinton (42) ordered chops to the US Defense Budget; the US Army Corps of Engineer Infrastructure Projects within the US were no longer funded, like the Levees at New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina. US Congressional Katrina Hearings. As to why the US Army Corps of Engineers were absolved of blame, and so was President Bush (43).

                        President Clinton (42) Gutted the US Intelligence Agencies that left the US Blind and Deaf to the Events leading up to the 9/11 2001 Attacks. At most Nations the local national Pro US intelligence assets that took decades to implace were no longer funded. The US had to rely on information (not even intelligence) from "Potentially Hostile" Nations like Pakistan, Jordan, etc. as the US Allies would not allow US access to their intelligence nor intelligence assets for fear of their sources being compromised (killed). Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings, and Recommendations.

                        It took President Bush (43) from 2001 to 2003 to rebuild the US Military after President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military, to accomplish President Clinton's US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein in accordance with President Clinton's US Law, H.R.4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" that became 2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom. Our arses were in Iraq since 2001 Operation Viking Hammer and 2002 Operation Hotel California waiting for the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces to be rebuilt.

                        Unedited Transcript President Bush Mission Accomplished Speech (Read all 5 pages, not the out of context Democrat propaganda)

                        http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-01/us/bush.transcript_1_general-franks-major-combat-allies?_s=PM:US

                        Since after President Clinton's Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of the US Military many US Military Units were deactivated or became State's National Guard; this required a Policy change, making it routine for State's National Guard to go on Active Duty Status and into Combat, many of the "Weekend Warriors" complained that this was not what they signed up for. Many of the State's Guard Units were lacking equipment, training, and no funding for the maintenance of the obsolete US Military Equipment they had.

                        Also removed were the previous US Military Cold War Era Anti Aircraft Missile Batteries to protect US Cities, US Military Installations and US Airports were deactivated. The USAF Aircraft on "standby" at US Airports were also removed (deactivated). As combined they could have shotdown the aircraft of the 9/11 2001 attacks, as specifically were there previously to shoot down USSR Bombers (faster than US Commercial Airliners).

                        Are you sure, wascigarman, that you want to repeat the same screw ups as President Clinton and expect different results; considering that the Holy Warriors of Islam have stated, 2013, that they are going to concentrate their attacks on the US (soil) once again. I survived all of the above before, and after this the few dozen of us that survived of the almost thousand that did not, since the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone, till now; we are going to submit our Retirement Packets to go back on Retirement again, this time don't Recall us anymore, we did more than our "Fair Share".

                        The rest of the cuts I do agree with, wascigarman, you do have to change your numbers, as during the 2006 Nationwide Demonstrations by Illegal Aliens against President Bush's 2005 Illegal Alien Act, over 23 Million Illegal Aliens were counted, many Illegal Aliens stayed away from the 2006 Nationwide Demonstrations for fear of being apprehended and deported. That 11 Million is the numbers of Illegal Aliens brought into the US as children, those that have stated that they are Illegal Aliens, or currently detained as Illegal Aliens. The actual number estimated currently 2013 is over 25 Million Illegal Aliens. Previously, President Bush (43) designated Illegal Aliens as a Threat to National Security (delegated Agencies to count the numbers of Illegal Aliens). President Bush (43) Illegal Alien Act, title: The Border Protection, Anti-terrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005, US Law: H.R. 4437 demanded: Illegal Aliens a Felony Crime. Anyone assisting Illegal Aliens a Felony Crime. etc..

                        Summary President Bush (43) Illegal Alien Act H.R.4437

                        http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR04437:@@@D&summ2=m&

                        By the way President Obama already stated in August 10, 2009, Associated Press, he intends to legalize the over 23 Million Illegal Aliens at the US:

                        And immigration remained a sore spot. While Obama has said he'd like to start crafting an overhaul that legalizes millions of Mexican immigrants, there's little chance of Congress acting this year, since even top administration priorities like health care and climate policy are moving slowly amid heated partisan debate

                        And President Obama's April 2009 (Southern Border) and August 2009 (Northern Border) Policies, "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders".

                        2011 President Obama's Policy, "Only Criminal Undocumented Workers will be Deported".

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.12 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:24 AM EST

                        David,

                        Our mission had nothing to do with the Taliban. The Taliban had NOTHING to do with the attacks on the Trade Towers and the Pantagon. The Taliban was GW Bush's wet dream, since he ran full speed into Afghanistan without actually finding out if Bin Laden and Al Qaida were actually operating out of Afghanistan. Then he pushed us into Iraq!

                        Why do you think Colin Powell walked out on him?

                        Clinton wasn't responsible for the draw down, it was in full speed in 1992 when he entered office. He did, in fact raise defense spending twice during his presidency.

                        George Herbert Walker Bush was actually president when the cuts took place, they were proposed by congress during the last part of Reagans second term. (minimum 3 year turn around on defense programs)

                        You may want to check your timelines before you post things like that.

                          #3.13 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:48 AM EST

                          OH, yeah, and the policy about deportation was left over from GW Bush. Obama extended it. "W" proposed those policies on illegals in 2006.

                            #3.14 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:55 AM EST

                            Military Man-1740371 - Our mission had nothing to do with the Taliban. The Taliban had NOTHING to do with the attacks on the Trade Towers and the Pantagon. The Taliban was GW Bush's wet dream, since he ran full speed into Afghanistan without actually finding out if Bin Laden and Al Qaida were actually operating out of Afghanistan. Then he pushed us into Iraq!

                            YOU DON'T KNOW SH!T YOU WERE NOT A PARTICIPANT BASED ON YOUR POST, NOT EVEN A REAL MILITARY ANYTHING

                            Common Definitions from Dictionary.com:

                            Fact, noun

                            1. something that actually exists; reality; truth.

                            2. something known to exist or to have happened.

                            3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.

                            Go sling your manure opinions on your own personal blog instead of dumbing down Newsvine's "Get Smarter Here".

                            Common Definintion from Dictionary.com

                            Opinion, noun

                            1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

                            2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

                            Opinion See Definition of Prejudice:

                            Prejudice, noun

                            1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

                            2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

                            3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.

                            STOP LYING, wannabe, not a real Military Man-1740371.

                            Military Man-1740371 - OH, yeah, and the policy about deportation was left over from GW Bush. Obama extended it. "W" proposed those policies on illegals in 2006.

                            NAME THE SHORT TITLE AND THE DATE OF THE PRESIDENT OBAMA POLICY. DO NOT MAKE STUFF UP.

                            • 3 votes
                            #3.15 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:28 AM EST
                            Reply

                            • Median incomes: These have fallen 7.3% since Obama took office, which translates into an average of $4,000. Since the so-called recovery started, median incomes continued to fall, dropping $2,544, or 4.8%.

                            • Long-term unemployed: More than three years into Obama's recovery, 811,000 more still fall into this category than when the recession ended.

                            • Poverty: The poverty rate climbed to 15.1% in 2010, up from 14.3% in 2009, and economists think it may have hit 15.7% last year, highest since the 1960s.

                            • Food stamps: There are 11.8 million more people on food stamps since Obama's recovery started.

                            • Disability: More than 1 million workers have been added to Social Security's disability program in the last three years.

                            • Gas prices: A gallon of gas cost $1.89 when Obama was sworn in. By June 2009, the price was $2.70. Today, it's $3.84.

                            • Misery Index: When Obama took office, the combination of unemployment and inflation stood at 7.83. Today it's 9.71.

                            • Union membership: Even unions are worse off under Obama, with membership dropping half a million between 2009 and 2011.

                            • Debt: Everyone is far worse off if you just look at the national debt. It has climbed more than $5 trillion under Obama, crossing $16 trillion for the first time on Tuesday and driving the U.S. credit rating down.

                            • 20 votes
                            #4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:13 AM EST

                            Vik....

                            The list you provide is absolutely ridiculous. You have to look at WHY these things have occurred in the first place and what has been done to combat it. Numbers for many of these things have gone up because of the Bush Recession that came to a head immediately before Obama was sworn into his first term.

                            Please argue for me how losing 800,000 jobs per month (which is what was actually happening in January of 2009 when Obama was sworn in) to now when we have added jobs for 35 straight months is better? Obviously it isn't....and it is silly to suggest otherwise.

                            The funny thing is that the only way Republicans would reduce the number of people on food stamps is to cut the program.....when all you did was refused help to people. Plus, it would add to unemployment in the long run because you are removing all that money out of the economy.

                            PLUS, if you are going to say these things are bad...what are YOU (or your side) going to do to improve things? Give even more tax breaks to "job creators"? Give me a break.

                            Your arguments would be much stronger if the Republicans would lay out ONE plan to lower unemployment....but they refuse to do so. They choose to do the opposite of what all economists say should be done in times of higher unemployment.

                            • 18 votes
                            #4.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:45 AM EST

                            Please argue for me how losing 800,000 jobs per month (which is what was actually happening in January of 2009 when Obama was sworn in) to now when we have added jobs for 35 straight months is better? Obviously it isn't....and it is silly to suggest otherwise.

                            There are less people working today then there was when President Obama took office.

                            • 18 votes
                            #4.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:55 AM EST

                            Lostinlalaland....

                            There are less people working today then there was when President Obama took office

                            That is an abjectly ludicrous statement and one that, surprise surprise, is void of context.

                            Please argue for me how the 3+ million jobs lost in Obama's first two quarters (or really any of the jobs lost in 2009) are HIS fault?! I'd love to hear that "logic"......

                            • 12 votes
                            #4.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:59 AM EST

                            Since the democrats were in control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate in 2007 and 2008 and since Barrack Obama was a Senator during that time he is as much responsible as anyone else, The Dems were in control when the economy turned to crap.

                            Currently the republicans control only 1/3rd of government and yet President Obama and the Democrats seem to be blaming them for everything , When will Obama and the democrats accept responsibility for thier actions/inactions.

                            • 23 votes
                            #4.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:04 AM EST

                            Lost....

                            Since the democrats were in control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate in 2007 and 2008 and since Barrack Obama was a Senator during that time he is as much responsible as anyone else, The Dems were in control when the economy turned to crap.

                            Please explain to me what legislation was passed and signed by Obama during that time that caused Wall Street to collapse and for the banks to freeze and threaten liquidation?!

                            I would call your statement moronic, but, that would be offensive to all other morons out there.

                            Currently the republicans control only 1/3rd of government and yet President Obama and the Democrats seem to be blaming them for everything

                            You DO realize how a bill becomes law....correct? If you have 1/3 of the government working against the other 2/3, you ain't gettin' diddly-squat done.

                            • 13 votes
                            #4.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:10 AM EST

                            We need uncommon sense in this administration or whatever is 'opposite' of they are doing now.

                            Perhaps we pass even more legislation this time 'yes means no' and 'no means yes'...if its a bizarro world we live in these days...lets try and make a little sense of it.

                            Our whole government is corrupt or afraid as no one is standing up and saying anything reasonable...Dr. Ben Carson did though. We need more, no we need all politicians to have a common sense, simplistic approach to politics like this gentleman does. But if we had that, and an educated public, the powers that be couldn't manipulate everything and get away with it....hmmmm...interesting.

                            I call upon to you public at large...stop being the ostrich and pull your head out. Stop being the brainwashed TV watcher and get more involved with your community. Put the shot glass, bong, and doctor prescribed stupidity down and start contributing more to life, and your family. YES our country depends on that and YOU!! GO and meet your neighbors we might be needing them more than ever sooner than later. Read something everyday. Tell your kids and significant other that your a better person because of them and that you love them, and if they don't change it.

                            We aren't anonymous anymore. We are the People. We are hurting and need to be healed.

                            THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

                            Thank you.

                            • 12 votes
                            #4.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:21 AM EST

                            Independant (ent)....

                            Wow.....that is your argument? Boiler plate anti Dem statement and Bill Clinton references?

                            Gee, and you clowns wonder why you lost the election in 2012?

                            • 15 votes
                            #4.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:23 AM EST

                            Independant. I agree with you, but lets try to find anything made in America. Our Own Manufacturers of goods are all moving to foriegn countries. I would like to know where a normal purchase of goods made in America exist. ALL of our Automobiles are made in Foriegn countries. All clothing is foriegn made. A lot of our groceries are now coming from Foriegn countries, and I could go on and on. The only way to stop this Foriegn junk coming into America is put on the shoulders of our Congress, but they will not do anything about it. I know, alot of you will say that Ford and Chevy are made in America. If ONE part of an Automobile is manufactured in a foriegn country, it is not made in America.

                            • 5 votes
                            #4.12 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:14 AM EST

                            wascigarman, we do manufactor American made goods each and everyday. These "flying things" protect our nation and keep us all safe. But you wish for the sequester to pass which will eliminate my husbands job along with 3000 other jobs in just one town. I agree with you on a earlier post about imigration and border issues. But there has to be a balance in all areas cut in the sequester. You just cant slash everything in the sequester without doing harm to people lifes.

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.14 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:43 AM EST

                            One more point I have to make before I go to work. Personally I attempt to buy american made products and hope that the majority of others do to. I see it like this; not every product purchased can be american made such as computers, electronics, (what american made electronics do you own?) But when you have issues with a electronic who do you turn to? My answer is an American technician, say the geek squad or a small repair shop. Or say I need a new roof on the house, the shingles came from who knows where, but the dude laboring on the roof is getting my money. This creating jobs for Americans. The guy working at Toyota is also making a living in America. So buying American products would be ideal but in the end any purchase benefits us all. But your forgetting that the sequester issue will eliminate what products we have left to make in America. You want to save American made products right?

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.15 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:00 AM EST

                            DoctorLogic

                            Per "Fact Check" as reported by the Washington Post, and other left of center publications, the POTUS is

                            CHERRY PICKING his employment theories:

                            The president is cherry-picking a number that puts the improvement in the economy in the best possible light. The low point in jobs was reached in February 2010, and there has indeed been a gain of about 6 million jobs since then, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. But the data also show that since the start of his presidency, about 1.2 million jobs have been created — and the number of jobs in the economy is about 3.2 million lower than when the recession began in December 2007.

                            • 8 votes
                            #4.16 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:10 AM EST

                            "Gee, and you clowns wonder why you lost the election in 2012?"

                            That's funny! You guys have made it clear, in no uncertain terms, George Bush was the worst President in the history of the U.S. Yet, you "clowns" lost elections to him, not once, but TWICE.

                            And what did the Republicans offer up for competition in 2012? Mitt Romney. I guy so bad many Republicans said they didn't even vote because of him.

                            Bush didn't do anything beating Gore and Kerry and Obama didn't do anything beating McCain and Romney.

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.17 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:13 AM EST

                            wascigarman

                            I can't help but reply to your grossly misinformed post.

                            All clothing??? The jeans I'm wearing were in fact made here in the USA with material sourced in the USA.

                            The kitchen table and chairs I sit at to eat meals was in fact made in America using American sourced materials.

                            The dinnerware on my table is in fact made in West Virginia, by an American company using American raw materials.

                            The boots, shirt and everything else I have on right now with one exception is American made. The exception is my watch. If I had my Hamilton wristwatch on, I could legitimately say EVERYTHING I am wearing is American made.

                            As far as vehicles, my vehicles ARE made here. Accessories like a radio might not be, but it's Americans that make the parts and put them together.

                            If you get off your butt, you too can find American made products from American owned countries. But it's just so much easier bitching about it isn't it.

                            • 7 votes
                            #4.18 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:21 AM EST

                            XDm9mm. I appreciate your come back post. I think that it is great that you can find Tables and chairs made in America and some forks and spoons. As far as Automobiles, you must drive a 1994 Lincoln Towncar if your Automobile is made in America. After 1994, even parts for Lincolns were Foriegn made, that is when I stopped buying Lincolns, as that is the Last Vehicle to be fully American Made. Give me an Automobile in the United States that is one hundred percent made in America, you cant. Find me a computer, X-Box, Microwave, Regular oven, Refrigerator Etc, that is completely made in America, you cant. Maybe you can find Jeans or hunting outfits made in America, but that is about it.

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.19 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:01 AM EST

                            DocLogic(?)...

                            Actually the real question that needs to be answered is not what legislation anyone passed, but why no one in government raised a red flag and stated the case.

                            I realize you like strawman arguments and thier resulting deflective arguments, but do you really think that any one can effectively argue that it was one side or another?

                            Just based on historical facts tell us real quickly the names of any respected politician or economist that clamored out about ANY of our past recessions.

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.20 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:28 AM EST
                            DamyouDeleted

                            Get this info, even I was a bit shocked to find that most "American Made" car is:

                            2012 Toyota Avalon
                            Assembled: Georgetown, Ky.
                            Percentage Made In U.S.: 85%

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.22 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:31 AM EST

                            i will continue to SAVE and spend money on american made products,instead of going for the "instant gratification" that is rampant in this country. I will NEVER SHOP AT WALMART, i don't care if my shirt costs me 15-20 dollars more. i save and buy as MUCH as i can to keep a fellow american working. Sure there are things that can't be bought that are made in USA,but there is PLENTY we can do to stop this trend. This "i want it now" mentality is crushing our economy,take walmart(people say "they put americans to work") everything you buy sends just a little more money overseas to china,or these rich people you all bitch about. We need common sense laws that attract business and manufacturing BACK to this country,overregulation has pushed these companies overseas.Save your money lets KEEP it here as much as possible(that 15-20 i'm willing to spend recirculates in this economy NOT CHINAS) we have to start somewhere,how about keeping some money here?

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.23 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:50 AM EST

                            XD -

                            Some items are hard to buy American made, if not nearly impossible. For those that I can, I do. I do understand that every little bit helps as far as American jobs are concerned.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.24 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:05 AM EST

                            VikVega - Misery Index: When Obama took office, the combination of unemployment and inflation stood at 7.83. Today it's 9.71.

                            The higher the number the more Miserable US Citizens are, average:

                            Barack H Obama (4 years): 10.61

                            George W Bush (8 years): 8.11

                            At the rate President Obama is going, may as well as multiply 10.61 x 2 = 21.22 Misery Index.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.25 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:48 AM EST

                            you are absolutely correct "lostinthepinebarrens", this country has gone down the tubes EVER since the Dems controlled congress as you say. What does it take for a dem to just tell the truth, they ALL seem to have taken a page from B Clinton. Lie, lies and lie some more, maybe nobody is paying attention.....and what IS the definition of "is" anyway?

                            Well, according to the online dictionary, there are 11 different meanings. The simpler a word in the English language, the more ambiguous, and therefore the more meanings it can have.

                            The problem with stupid people - real stupid people - not the poor people that the Right Wingers think are lazy and stupid - the problem with stupid people is that they do not understand that the world they live in is really complex. So any explanation that they do not understand is considered to be a lie. That is why global climate change, evolution and most of physics is sneered at by such idiots.

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.26 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:55 AM EST

                            That's funny! You guys have made it clear, in no uncertain terms, George Bush was the worst President in the history of the U.S. Yet, you "clowns" lost elections to him, not once, but TWICE.

                            And what did the Republicans offer up for competition in 2012? Mitt Romney. I guy so bad many Republicans said they didn't even vote because of him.

                            So when Democrats offer up poor candidates, Democrats are idiots, and when Republicans offer up poor candidates, voters are idiots?

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.27 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:57 AM EST
                            Reply

                            These so called adults continue to act like schoolchildren. It is unbelievable to me how nothing gets done and all the name calling. Our founding Fathers are rolling in their graves. Finger pointing, laying blame and calling each other chicken is NOT the way to solve our problems. Where are the real statesmen when we need them.

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:21 AM EST

                            They can get every GOP member to stand together on a stage and blather on with talking points. All polls show the American people blame the GOP and that won't change.

                            • 1 vote
                            #5.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:44 AM EST
                            Reply

                            A SOCIALIST: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.

                            A DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous.

                            A COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with a cup of milk a day.

                            A REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

                            • 19 votes
                            Reply#6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:21 AM EST

                            And then the Republican gets a subsidy for the milk he produces at taxpayer expense.

                            Hires a guy to take care of those cows for him at minimum(poverty) wages and

                            spends his money getting more Republicans elected to give him more subsidies and tax breaks.

                            • 18 votes
                            #6.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:33 AM EST

                            The milk subsidy is so the poor will be able to afford the milk and not be paying $8.00 per gallon, We can eliminate it but there will be a lot of poor children not getting any milk and those poor children don't really care if there is a R or a D in front of a politicians name.

                            If you think raising dairy cows is so easy maybe you should try it, Nah...that would require actually working .

                            • 15 votes
                            #6.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:50 AM EST

                            yeah, well atleast no rebulicans went to jail last year....5 dems were sentenced last year 2 for exposing themselves over the internet... the dems steal Romneys ipod, subvertly film Romney, Steal/hack Bush's e-mail....you can see who we are dealing with

                            nixon library

                            carter library

                            ford library

                            clinton adult book store

                            • 12 votes
                            #6.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:54 AM EST

                            LOL

                            • 3 votes
                            #6.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:42 AM EST

                            la1Impala. LOL

                            • 2 votes
                            #6.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:23 AM EST

                            NO NO spending cuts how dare you mention such a thing. Obama has a plan to make us all rich. Enter younger kids into pre school. Yep paying some fat socialist lady to tie the shoes of welfare kids is the ticket to world economic domination.

                            • 1 vote
                            #6.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:39 AM EST
                            DamyouDeleted

                            lost- dairy farming ain't fer the weak! my uncle had 150 holsteins and 5 boys,my brother and I were dropped off at da farm every morning to help out,don't think any of these libs would even have a clue as to how much work actually goes into putting out that gallon. That was before automated milking too, greg ought to go see what actually goes on on dem dare farms. My uncle still only has 2 days off a year(he's 75 now) yeah he pays minimum my azz, he boards his help(that means feeds them greg) houses his help(as in a home without rent payment) and pays them too! hey, he must be out for that almighty buck,only interested in his "bottom line" right greg? fool!

                              #6.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:11 AM EST
                              Reply

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                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:43 AM EST

                              Why don't the Republicans put together a spending cut bill and present it in the House? They run the House of Representatives for God's sake. They could do that today, if they wanted to......

                              I would LOVE to see an actual bill scored by the CBO to see what types of real effects these spending cuts would have on the economy as a whole......however, this is precisely the reason Republicans WON'T put forth a bill because they know it will shrink our economy and it would be incredibly unpopular (and frankly stupid).

                              This is all posing and posturing from the GOP as they continue to become the most useless element that we've ever seen in our government. They are akin to cancer cells in the body.....they enter the body and attack it from within until it dies.

                              • 15 votes
                              Reply#8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:55 AM EST

                              Every time the Republicans have tried to introduce any type of spending or tax reform bills the democrats have twisted it and demonized them, Social Security and Medicare are going broke and both Republicans and Democrats have acknowledged that, The difference is that when Republicans try to talk about it the Democrats accuse them of pushing Granny off a cliff, The Democrats are more interested in using crises for political gain than they are of actually preventing the crisis from happening.

                              • 14 votes
                              #8.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:00 AM EST

                              Every time the Republicans have tried to introduce any type of spending or tax reform bills the democrats have twisted it and demonized them

                              Hold on here.....if the GOP is correct on this issue, it should matter who demonizes who. The GOP should be able to stand up based on its merits. You are actually saying that the GOP won't produce legislation they say the country needs because the Democrats are mean to them?

                              Sorry Lost, that is the lamest excuse I have heard thusfar.

                              The Democrats are more interested in using crises for political gain than they are of actually preventing the crisis from happening.

                              Name ONE thing the GOP has done to help the economy or prevent another crisis from occurring? It is going to be a really, really short list.....of zero. Actually, it goes into the negatives because they have done everything they can to hurt the economy.

                              • 14 votes
                              #8.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:06 AM EST

                              What has your comrade obama done a laughable stimulus, and the highest number of welfare recipients, ever???

                              • 10 votes
                              #8.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 AM EST

                              Gary,

                              Right, the stimulus didn't work....magic must have been the reason why job losses of 800,000 per month in 2009 turned around to job gains in 2010. Give me a break.

                              But, to my original question.....what have REPUBLICANS done to improve the economy? At some point you have to stand for something...just not against something.

                              • 12 votes
                              #8.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 AM EST

                              Gary...Bushco tried 3 stimulus plans- all failed. And the welfare recipients are a direct cause of Bushco destroying the economy. Educate yourself,son.

                              • 11 votes
                              #8.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:24 AM EST

                              Don't worry Doc - The President is supposed to have already submitted his budget. And I'm sure when the CBO scores it, we will be at $1 Trillion deficit again.

                              But you are right, stimulus spending did help the economy. Now, how has the addition of over $6 Trillion in debt helped? Our President appears to be more worried about his legacy than our children and grandchildren having to deal with a bankrupt country. You can't just wish this stuff away -- aka Greece.

                              • 5 votes
                              #8.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:50 AM EST

                              @ Dr. Logic House Resolution 20 introduced in the house Jan 4 2013 to achieve spending levels @ 20% of GDP

                              HR 313 introduced Jan 18 2013 to introduce spending limits and transparency in federal conference and travel expenditures

                              just the fist three things i found that originated in the house. all appear to target spending control, which would help the economy.

                              HR 444 passed by house and sent to senate covers balancing budget

                                #8.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:10 AM EST

                                how about caving in to dems this "fiscal cliff" and putting forth tax increases? even though they should have stood firm and demanded we do something about spending? like congress was supposed to do two years ago. when the dems wouldn't address it then and just extended bushes tax cuts? i'm sure that's nothing, how was that tax break the dems initiated two years ago? i mean people putting less into their retirement fund is a great idea,right? that worked well,let's do it again(sarcasm if you don't realize it) knuckledragger(dr "logic")

                                  #8.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:21 AM EST
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                                  Boehner better do the right thing or 2014 will even hurt worse. Austerity will be the back breaker for the middle Class and the Economy if the GOP get their way. We're watching

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:00 AM EST

                                  4 years and it's still bushes fault!!!!!

                                  • 9 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:02 AM EST

                                  Yes, we haven't fully recovered yet.

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #10.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:03 AM EST

                                  The Democrats controlled both the House and Senate in 2007 and 2008 , They controlled 2/3rds of government and the recession did not start until they took control, So who really is responsible for the recession...How about the part controlling 2/3rds of government accept their part of the blame.

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #10.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:11 AM EST

                                  rick...

                                  Let me ask you this.....if Obama started his first term with a balanced budget, no wars to deal with, and with a growing economy would we be at 7.9% unemployment right now with a $900B deficit? The answer is obviously "no".....so, sorry, you have to put blame where blame is due.

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #10.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 AM EST

                                  doc loc, 4 years and nothing has gotten better!!! more spending, higher unemployment, hire taxes, more people on food stamps, and obamacare isn't going to help!!!!

                                  • 14 votes
                                  #10.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:29 AM EST

                                  rick...

                                  Q: Let me ask you this.....if Obama started his first term with a balanced budget, no wars to deal with, and with a growing economy would we be at 7.9% unemployment right now with a $900B deficit?

                                  A: doc loc, 4 years and nothing has gotten better!!! more spending, higher unemployment, hire taxes, more people on food stamps, and obamacare isn't going to help!!!!

                                  A pathetic answer to a very simple and pointed question.

                                  Seriously, if you want to debate....great, let's debate....but to simply type boiler plate anti Obama statements does literally nothing. It does, however, show how you people are really not interested in debate.

                                  Maybe put four exclamation points at the end of your useless statement so I know you're really serious! What a joke.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #10.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:42 AM EST

                                  Rick you are the dumbest rock in the pile. Of course it is Bush's fault. He took a balanced budget and a robust economy and turned it to @!$%#. He handed Obama a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit budget in 2009 and an economy headed for the dump. Those bailouts and the stimulus which by the way was made up mostly tax cuts, headed that off. Things have turned around, things are better, despite the republicans obstructing everything they could. You need to shut the radio off and learn something. Or you are a hater, probably because of the color of the mans skin. It sure can't be because of his performance, he has done great and could do even greater if it wasn't for a obstructionist republican party.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #10.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:57 AM EST

                                  Rick. Did you just get out of Solitary? Of course it is Bushes fault. Tax Cuts for the Rich, Not funded. Medicare Prescription Plan, Not Funded. Two wars, one not necessary, the other not fought properly, Not Funded, and after all of that, eight hundred thousand jobs lost per month toward the end of Bushes Rein. Obama and the Democrats have been trying to bring America Back, even though the Republicans throw up road blocks everywhere they can to stop America from coming back. Republicans do not want America to come out of this recession until they get a President Elected, and that will be quite some time way in the future. Rick, you do realize what the Republican Party has a problem with dont you? I will enlighten as to what there problem is. Number one, Obama is a Democrat. Number two, Obama is Black.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #10.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:34 AM EST

                                  @ johntho

                                  And where do you think that budget surplus originated. Ask Carter & Clinton why they set us up to fail. Pretty easy way to increase a budget is allowing nutjobs to sell toxic trash, making a few that were already rich, insanely rich. How do you not hold those people responsible is just beyond what a real and just thought even is

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #10.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:53 AM EST

                                  @was - you failed to mention that Obama is a failure.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #10.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:31 AM EST
                                  DamyouDeleted

                                  doc-loc, let's not have a debate on fantasay, but facts. obama applied for the job, as is. he has had 4 years to work on it, and has failed. he hasn't balanced a budget ( because he doesn't have one ), unemployment still high ( will get worst as obamacare gets started ) , and hardly any economic growth ( just keeps print more money we don't have ).

                                    #10.11 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:44 PM EST

                                    johntho, please tell me one thing that has gotten better since obama took office?

                                      #10.12 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:49 PM EST

                                      wascigarman, and it's bush's fault because he's republican and white? please stop being a racist!

                                        #10.13 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:53 PM EST
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                                        No more hot potato, don't give this marxist another thing!!!

                                        • 10 votes
                                        Reply#12 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:06 AM EST

                                        Marxist in what way Gary?

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #12.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:50 AM EST
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                                        John Boehner, Aug. 1, 2011. CBS news. I got 98% of what I wanted. Now you wanna blame obama? Really?

                                        • 9 votes
                                        Reply#13 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 AM EST

                                        momgam...

                                        Outstanding! I forgot about that dandy. So Obama is being blamed for the 2% he got? Puts into context how ludicrous the argument is.

                                        • 10 votes
                                        #13.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:21 AM EST

                                        fascist....

                                        of course obama is to blame moron

                                        Explain....

                                        • 7 votes
                                        #13.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:43 AM EST

                                        Of course it is you that is the moron left. You don't even know the definition of fascist.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #13.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:49 AM EST

                                        Here is the transcript from the interview where Boehner made the 98% remark:

                                        Boehner: We've got divided government in Washington. We've got big issues confronting us. We have a very open process and society. And as a result, we have healthy debates about how to move forward. This has certainly been a long, healthy debate.

                                        Pelley: Give us a little bit of insight. How did the grand bargain fail? What was the breaking point? How did you tell the president you were walking away?

                                        Boehner: It really boiled down to two issues. President was insisting on more taxes. President never got serious about the kind of spending cuts that were necessary in order to get America back on a sound fiscal footing.

                                        Pelley: You don't think he negotiated in good faith?

                                        Boehner: No, I do believe the president was negotiating in good faith. We had a lot of productive conversations, a lot of tense conversations. But it became pretty clear to me that I wasn't going to be for higher taxes, and the president wasn't going to cut spending as he should.

                                        Pelley: What did you say to each other.

                                        Boehner: I told the president I'm not going there. I can't do that.

                                        Pelley: If this super committee that you talk about recommends raising revenue, can you support that?

                                        Boehner: We'll see what it does. But I'm confident their focus will be on reducing expenditures coming out of Washington.

                                        Pelley: Can you imagine Republicans backing increased taxes?

                                        Boehner: I think that would be a stretch. It doesn't seem likely to me that that would be recommended, much less supported, but I've been surprised before.

                                        Pelley: You were unable to get your own caucus behind your bill a few days ago. Do you intend to remain Speaker of the House?

                                        Boehner: I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

                                        http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20086598/boehner-i-got-98-percent-of-what-i-wanted/

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #13.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:29 AM EST
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                                        All this whining about taxes in the most lightlty taxed (compared to GDP) country in the world (except Mexico, Chile and Turkey). Which one does the Tea Party want us to be more like?

                                        • 10 votes
                                        Reply#14 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:20 AM EST

                                        How about #2 in the world China, soon to be #1? They're communists too. So to stay #1, maybe we will need to be like them too?

                                          #14.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:30 PM EST
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                                          Let's be clear on this, please: money repaid in both Social Security and Medicare programs is not spending. Those repayments are the honoring of existing Federal financial obligations due to the self-same people who have paid into those programs over the years and decades. Honoring existing financial obligations with money not belonging to the Federal Government is not spending.

                                          Republicans insist that our Government not honor its financial obligations, whether those obligations are due to senior citizens, the sick and suffering, those holding Treasury bonds, or our Federal Treasury. Republicans are, in very real and demonstrable ways, deadbeats.

                                          As for spending, Republicans insist upon greater spending, more spending. They insist upon more war spending. They insist upon continues spending for give-aways to Big Oil and Big Pharma. They insist upon continued waste and fraud in the Medicare system, which amounts to pure profit for Medicare system providers. They like their spending, they like it a lot. Indeed, the Republicans spend more than Democrats, and have for decades. What distinguishes them is their refusal to pay their bills. Republicans are deadbeats.

                                          All the Republican noise is mere posturing, pretend, and make-believe. Acting "as-if" so and so were the case, when it is not, suffices for our Republicans. Wish-fulfillment has replaced reality for them. Unfortunately for Republicans, their self-delusion is not general; fooling oneself does not, and cannot, cause others to be similarly self-deluded.

                                          • 13 votes
                                          Reply#15 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:21 AM EST

                                          Why can't everybody see this? "None are so blind that they can not see!"

                                            #15.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:47 AM EST

                                            The program was never meant to be the sole support of the elderly that it has become. Additionally, people are living much longer (on average) today than they did at the inception of the programs, exhausting what they paid in plus a reasonable increase in just a few years. Anything in additional to the amount they paid in plus reasonable interest is welfare by any other name, thus an entitlement.

                                            Now, should the federal government have raided the program? definitely not, especially to pay for nonessentials like Johnson's 'Great Society', or the Vietnam War for that matter. The fact is that they did.

                                              #15.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:57 AM EST

                                              Wall Street, corporate raiders, and financial syndicates such as Mitt Romney's have liquidated company's pension funds for their own profit insuring that Americans will have to rely more and more on Social Security. Then they want to go after that too.

                                                #15.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:55 AM EST
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                                                This one is pretty much on the Obama admin. He wants this to happen so he can cut the DOD and Medicare, and raise taxes on the middle class to pay for his other social agendas. Why can't liberals just admit it? Its what they want. Why all the blame and nonsense. The Obama should just tell people what he wants to do instead of all the schemes and hidden agenda nonsense.

                                                • 10 votes
                                                Reply#16 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:29 AM EST

                                                You have a pretty good immaginiation but it really isn't good to live in la la land, the people with nets will come and take you away. It is either la la or down right lies you tell.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #16.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:47 AM EST

                                                Johntho.... what? Lies I tell? That's your response to my wondering why this president doesn't just skip all the drama and come right out with it and tell people what he is doing so they can decide for themselves? Little kids do that kind of thing when they start rambling on and on to their mommy's about needing a new pair of shoes, and how all the other kids have new shoes.... blah blah, until the mommy finally says... "You can stop there, you are not going out with your friends". It is just a waste of time, like your liberal talking point/ comeback passed to you via generations of other liberals who got it from the same memo on some lame liberal website. Climb out of the basement brother... see the sunshine... smell the flowers.... stop living life on the darkside of inner dishonesty.... your mom will love you more than on your 42nd birthday when she brought you an entire box of new pop tarts down to your dark room.....

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #16.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:05 AM EST
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                                                frank marshall davis

                                                saul alinski

                                                francis fox piven

                                                george soros

                                                anthony van jones

                                                bill ayres

                                                bernadine dorhn

                                                rev wright

                                                valarie jarrett

                                                david axelrod

                                                andy sterm

                                                cass sunstein

                                                anita dunn

                                                comrade obama

                                                If like those listed above;

                                                you want to eliminate free market capitalism,

                                                resent American exceptional-ism,

                                                and want to netuer our military,

                                                you are the enemy within!!!

                                                • 10 votes
                                                Reply#17 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:33 AM EST

                                                Are you a member of the NRA?

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #17.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:14 AM EST

                                                Leo -

                                                What's the matter? The NRA is not the enemy of anybody but the communists in our government as they try to ensure that the 2nd Amendment is not infringed upon.

                                                Now, are you saying that you are a communist? Because, if you are, then you are an enemy to the US and the Constitution which defines this country.

                                                  #17.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:06 AM EST
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                                                  Hey Mr. President -- check the signature line on the sequester law. You signed it! Don't try to shift the blame.

                                                  I will be very interested to see your proposed budget Mr. President. You can talk a good game and even get most of the media to follow along with your made-up talking points (double the gas mileage?), so let's see how good your math skills are when you have to put a budget together for the upcoming year.

                                                  My bet - either he never will, or it will be so outrageous, it will fail to get a single Democratic vote -- just like in previous years.

                                                  • 13 votes
                                                  Reply#18 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:33 AM EST

                                                  He is still using the Louis Farrakhan math.

                                                  • 9 votes
                                                  #18.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:35 AM EST

                                                  yes. he signed it because it was the only way to get the Tea baggers to sign on to the debt ceiling bill that was required in order to pay for the $$$ house legislation had already allocated and spent. Remember how Boehner was ready to cut a deal but they pissed on effort to lead. Remember how Cantor used the Tea Party reps to undermine Boehner? Selected incomplete facts do not trump the whole truth. Hey, but its easier to blame the President.

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #18.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:11 AM EST
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                                                  If the last 3 GOP presidents had not signed TWENTY deficit riddled budgets AND saddled Obama with a $1.3T deficit, we wouldnt HAVE A DEBT CRISIS! If bush had kept the budget in relative balances after Clinton handed him a surplus budget, we wouldnt HAVE MUCH DEBT!! The current GOP leaders voted for ALL of the bush debt! McConnell voted for almost ALL of the current debt!

                                                  The elderly, the sick, the poor and the children should not be forced to pay for the deliberate decision of the Republicans to run up debt in order to force privatizing of SS and Medicare!

                                                  • 11 votes
                                                  Reply#19 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:36 AM EST

                                                  Left, you don't even know enough to know that fascism is a right wing philosophy, how stupid of you. You are the fascist stupid. Shut up and pay your taxes.

                                                  • 11 votes
                                                  #19.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:45 AM EST

                                                  I would love to bottle this conversation between Tom and fascist as an example of the "dialogue" that is going on right now.

                                                  First, Tom makes a statement that uses factual evidence showing the hypocrisy of the people on the right.

                                                  Fascist, instead of refuting the points made by Tom, replies literally with something any grade school child could have written.

                                                  God bless America!

                                                  • 12 votes
                                                  #19.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:46 AM EST

                                                  Couple points for you Doc.

                                                  Clinton robbed SS to create that "surplus" through "creative accounting".

                                                  I want you to give me a link to a post that shows 800K jobs lost in any, ANY one month period.

                                                  You can't. There wasn't one.

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #19.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:10 AM EST

                                                  That's FALSE! And American KNOW IT!

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #19.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:59 AM EST

                                                  Paragraph 4 in the following:

                                                  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/6/clinton-gingrich-and-the-balanced-budget-myth/

                                                  That's FALSE! And American KNOW IT!

                                                  So that means you are not American then?

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #19.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:08 AM EST

                                                  It just dumbfounds me to know end that liberals still bring up the "Clinton Surplus" lie:

                                                  Bill Clinton claimed "Budget SURPLUSES" for 1998 – 2000 of $428 Billion, so most people believed that we were on track to pay off the National Debt, yet the National Debt INCREASED by $259 Billion in those years – a "swing" difference of $687 Billion more spending than the "surpluses" would seem to indicate.

                                                  The difference is about $340 Billion the government "borrowed" from the Social Security "Trust" Fund and claimed it reduced the Deficit, when in reality it INCREASED the National Debt by that amount ($340 Billion + $340 Billion = $680 Billion difference).

                                                  Excerpt from: Budget Bunk: The Old Pox on Both Your Houses Game

                                                  “The Democrats rely on their great myth: Bill Clinton made the hard choices, cutting spending and raising taxes. This led not only to a balanced budget, but to large surpluses. As former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers said, he had the privilege as Treasury Secretary to be buying back federal debt. In this story, the economy was rewarded with strong growth, low unemployment, and a declining national debt, all by virtue of President Clinton's courage in reducing the budget deficit.

                                                  It's a nice story, but it's long past time that we put this fairy tale to rest. …..

                                                  In short, the real story of the balanced budget in the '90s had little to do with Clinton's hard choices. It was attributable on the one hand to an eclectic Fed chairman who was prepared to ignore the orthodoxy within the economics profession and allow the unemployment rate to fall to levels generally thought impossible to attain by economists. On the other hand, it was driven by an unsustainable asset bubble.

                                                  This is key part that people want to remember going forward. The prosperity at the end of the Clinton years was unsustainable because it rested on a bubble that was destined to burst. And it did burst exactly as President Clinton was making his plans to leave the White House. The economy did not regain the jobs lost in the 2001 recession until 2005, and even then it was on the back of another unsustainable bubble, this one in the housing market. And we know how that one ended.

                                                  So the Democrats' morality tale of hard budget choices and virtuous austerity turns out not to hold water.”

                                                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/budget-bunk-the-old-pox-o_b_1466789.html

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #19.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:46 AM EST
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                                                  lew, obama's chief of staff, gets an article about what a great negotiator he is for coming up w/the sequester terms, obama takes credit for these as deficit cuts that have been enacted and last year the republican house passes a bill which substitutes other cuts for those in the bill and it's the republicans fault, really? keep falling for this crap and history will record you as the dopes he roped.

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  Reply#20 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:37 AM EST

                                                  2014 its coming quickly,then i guess we will all see.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:38 AM EST

                                                  It so hard for me to believe some people are so gullable to believe this president has cut spending. look at the debt total rising every day. He has more debt in 4 years than bush did in 8.So many people have blinders on and refuse to see that Obama is detroying this country.

                                                  • 12 votes
                                                  Reply#23 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:40 AM EST

                                                  dlb...you just don't get it. Obama cut spending. That is a fact and Dem/Libs will point it out repeatedly. They will not point out however that the cuts were insignificant and have little affect in the long term.

                                                  Blinders? Everything bad is of course blamed on Bush, despite the fact he hasn't been in the White House for 4 years. And you can rest assured at the end of the next 4 years, you will still be hearing "it's Bush's fault!", "look what Obama inherited!", ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

                                                  Obama never takes responsibility for anything. The press never holds him to anything. All the broken campaign promises and pledges. It must be great being him. No standards to live up to, not even his own.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #23.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:42 AM EST
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                                                  Out of control spending, no budget just more perposals on how to spend more, what an out of control liberal brainless king want to be. He doesn't have the mental capacity to seek a budget, he is just like a teenager with a maxed out credit card.

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  Reply#25 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:43 AM EST
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                                                  Who does the GOP trying to fool? Certainly the American people are not fooled. The GOP has obstructed the congress for the last three years, whereby affecting the progression for our economy to get better since the Bush administration cost this country two unfunded wars, allow Wall Street to drive middleclass from their homes and costing the loss of millions of jobs. NO WE ARE NOT FOOLED AS TO WHO PUT THE SELF INFLICTED PAIN ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

                                                  The GOP has put a stop to everything possible connected to this Presidents agenda to make things better for people. He has reached across the isle many times and got rebuffed for doing so. He has been called many names and defamed by those republicam tea party people whom the party uses to do their dirty work. Especially, those southern republicans who cannot stand to have a black president. The GOP has done everything possible to cut short of that fact publically. Americans are not fooled!

                                                  Americans are fully aware the GOP cannot play fair in the election process in this country, but expect other countries to run fair elections. Rigging the electorial process so minorites are disinfranchised is their way to not recognize that every vote counts, but rigging the process to cancel that vote by redistricting every State that is willing to use the GOP scheme.

                                                  We Americans will make our vote count in the 2014 election by voting out those in Washington who have harmed our economic security to live the "American Dream."

                                                  We Americans will vote for people from our States that are willing to work with the people, have proven their worth and we will send them to Washington to do the work our forefathers intended when they wrote the laws our country has lived by.

                                                  We will send people who will abide by the Supreme Court decisions that have helped protect Americans.

                                                  The GOP's self inflicted loss of faith from Americans is only their fault and not the President! They are trying to spread blame because they cannot face the reality of failure.....complete failures!

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  Reply#26 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:45 AM EST

                                                  No one could fool you Joanie, all they have to do is be a democrat and feed you a few talking points and you are ready to be the next Pelosi, or Wasserman-Schultz.

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #26.2 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:20 AM EST

                                                  Try real hard to Listen........Socialist Government is nothing but corruption. When they bleed all the tax they can a nation implodes. Mark my words Obama has done not one thing but waste tax money to increase and intrench government in every aspect of life. Note now he demands toddlers in school so a fat socialist can teach them to what ? Tie shoes?. Perhaps a parent could do that since they are HOME ON WELFARE. All fine and good with your cushy socialist life's but sooner or later the money runs out and economic disasters set in. Put this way he been spending TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS on top of the TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS taken by tax..........Possible if this socialist economics worked DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT SEE SOME ECONOMIC GAINS BY NOW? Stock market ? Could be if it was not all banker money Obama gave to those poor little bankers who BOUGHT STOCK. Any way just tell me why after all this spent money has IT NOT WORKED?

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #26.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:22 AM EST
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                                                  Are you dumboRats really sure about next years election. I live in Florida and guess what, a lot of people especially minorities have had their food stamps cut, have to co pay for certain, which used to be free health care, and did you know that SSID early last year was 2 and 1/2 years to 3 years waiting time and now it's up to 5 years. More and more minorities here, esp. Hispanics are not happy with barry o.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#27 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:46 AM EST

                                                  All this crap that comes out of liberals is just the same as their mindless liberal king. All these liberals should leave and take their king with them.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#29 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:49 AM EST

                                                  President Obama's approval ratings on the rise. GOP approval ratings are barely above the single digits and they just lost big time in the election. I wouldn't bet on the GOP's fortunes improving if I were you.

                                                    #29.1 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:09 PM EST
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