That's why it was called wild west. I'd like to think civilized people have evolved since then.

The words that future generations will utter when they discuss our present time in history will not be the words of hypocrisy, but the words of tyranny.

If the American people do not stand up to such an obscene abuse of the position of The President of The United States and his "allowing" of himself and Every Other President After Him to assassinate an American Citizen on OR off American soil just based on a suspicion, which is violating every type of law and reason that this Nation is built upon, they are going to allow this type of abuse to run rampant in the future, unchecked, unchallenged, and killing innocents at will. (If you believe the president has the power to order U.S. citizens executed far from any battlefield with no charges or trial, then it's truly hard to conceive of any asserted power that you would find objectionable.)

Quit calling it hypocrisy…
Declaring yourself that you are the Judge the Jury and the Executioner without having to follow any laws or having any evidence, just a suspicion from what You Yourself have is called tyranny, he thinks he is now king, that he himself has the power to kill anybody at will.

America has only but One Chance to make that mistake.
So quit denying what this "new power" really is.

Is a 16 paged publicly prepared packet that has vaguely worded "writ" like "deemed necessary", "based on suspicion" that even the youngest schoolyard bully could shape and skew to make things "go his way", enough for you to just accept such a openly tyrannical move?

Do not let fear and dependence overrule and destroy your intellect and reason on this matter
because this is the most important test known to our country in present times
And the entire future of our entire Nation from this day on will rest on whether we pass it or fail it.

this is such bull@!$%#, more people died from squirrel bites than from terroists attacks on united states soil lastyear. stop the wars govt. we know that yall need war so your families in congress can keep getting rich manufacturing anything for war. do your research people.

"And the entire future of our entire Nation from this day on will rest on whether we pass it or fail it"

Very melodramatic.

Dumb hyperbole nevertheless.

Only the evil savages and their paid vultures will oppose the drone attack and the program. America must continue the drone program and hunt down those lowlife medieval creatures regularly as they deserve those punishments for their nonstop cruelty, savagery, barbarism and destruction's spree. The world will be a better place without those piss-loving evil moslems. Cunning Pakistani & Middle eastern terrorists with the help of their money hungry, brain dead and extremely greedy paid lobbyists are trying to stop the drone program for the obvious reasons but America MUST NOT STOP, as it has started to bear fruits and many of those terrorists are going back directly to their bloodthirsty and very angry Allah! That's good news for the democratic societies and civilized world. America, please double the drone attacks anywhere and everywhere those killers are hiding. God bless America and God bless the free world! Peace on earth

“It would be unprecedented if there were an in-depth discussion about ongoing covert activities.” I hope that they can ask these very basic questions though! These are the three standards: (1) where an informed, high level official of the U.S. government has determined that the targeted individual poses an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States; (2) where a capture operation would be infeasible – and where those conducting the operation continue to monitor whether capture becomes feasible; and (3) where such an operation would be conducted consistent with applicable law of war principles. In these circumstances, the ‘realities’ of the conflict and the weight of the government’s interest in protecting its citizens from an imminent attack are such that the Constitution would not require the government to provide further process to such a U.S. citizen before using lethal force.” Question #1: Who is the individual making the decision to sign the attack order and what is their ranking or level in our government? Question#2: What are they using as the definition for: posing an "imminent threat" of an attack against the United States? Question#3: What is their determination for capture operation as "infeasible"? Question#4: Why would we send in a drone into a country that we apparently have good relations with, instead of asking them to assist in the capture of these individuals? Question#5: Who is the individual that is able to make the decision that it is "infeasible" to capture the individual? Question#6: Who has the power to monitor and say that a capture is feasible? Question#7: Are these the same person making these decisions about capture? Question#8: What makes a capture "infeasible" or for someone to be captured? Question#9: Are the people monitoring the feasibility of capture on the ground or satellite observers? Question#10: How can satellite observers make a true decision on the feasibility of capture, since they are not at actual site? Question#11: What makes an operation consistent with applicable law of war principles? Question#12: What does ‘realities’ of the conflict and the weight of the government’s interest in protecting its citizens from an imminent attack actually defined as? Question13 Where do you find the power in the Constitution that would not require the government to provide further process to such a U.S. citizen before using lethal force? Question#14: Can you explain to me how we give foreign born prisoners the very rights that we are denying our citizens? There are more questions to be asked and I look forward to seeing yours!!!

cowboy17

Collateral damage sucks for sure, but if ANYBODY is targeting Americans they will be dispatched of in short order... I remember in the wild west an American sheriff would put a "dead or alive" bounty out another American citizen....its called PROTECTING and SERVING.......

"Dead or Alive" is mostly Hollywood fiction. Most wanted posters offered a reward for "capture and conviction". The rare instances where dead or alive posters were put up by the law (as opposed to some private group like a railroad or bank) involved criminals who had already been tried and convicted.

Did you have any excuses that don't involve fantasy??

Really? It is okay to kill Americans on a bureaucrat's say so but it is not okay to waterboard?I find that astonishing.Where is Cindy Sheehan and the critics who blasted the Republicans for the policies of the Bush Administration?By the way kill on foreign soil?If this is allowed,next it will be Americans on our own soil who do not agree with the anointed one.

@BF100 I would have to agree that the world would be better off without their ilk, But I also think that We are Americans and should be abiding by our Constitution, otherwise the rest of the World will view us with as liars about our desire for the Democracy we claim to have and want! These are not US citizens being killed in an actual fight against our country but "suspected" of imminent attack with no proof needed! They are being killed in direct violation of the 5th Amendment and the right to "Due Process"! We give foreign born citizens in Gitmo those rights,as per our constitution, why don't we reciprocate with our citizens? The one was killed at the age of 16, who was the son of one killed a couple of weeks earlier and how does he fall into any of the guidelines in this memo! I guess we can kill all that disagree with you and all their children, so that the survivors can all think the same as you and have a government like we had in Germany, during Hitlers reign! We are supposed to be a Democracy that treasures the Constitution and the Democracy it offers us, to disregard any part of the Constitution, if we have not passed an Amendment is to say we are no longer a DEMOCRACY!

The rest of the World already views us as liars - at worst, and naive - at best.

There have been a few American "converts" to islam in the news these past few years, who have caused trouble and joined "hijadists" - both here and on foreign soil. Release the drones on them, few care.

We are not at war with Yemen, they are a sovereign nation that has received much money to allow us to use drones in their country in their[read our] fight against "Terrorists" and has killed some of their citizens in collateral damage. This means to me that we would also have their help in the capture of these targeted US citizens so thst they can have their due process instead of being killed! We must prove that they are in effect traitors! What do you think the people in Yemen think of us violating their sovereignty? I am sure it is not making us any friends! Yet we are doing these drone attacks in Pakistan ,Yemen and Somalia, and the last time I looked we were not at war with any of them! These attacks are part of the reason the rest of the world now view us with disdain! I will repeat that I have no qualms about killing US citizens in the actual attack of us, but am concerned about killing them without proof or due process and only on the assumption that our government is correct, one such assumption that had our troops killed in the War on Iraq was for weapons of mass destruction! Our government can spin anything, give us the proof!

@AntiCMatthews, Actually read about this yesterday, but there was a US citizen killed on 11/03/2002 during G.W.Bush era in Yemen by our first drone attack there, his name was Kemal Derwish aka Ahmed Hijazi! I didn't remember this but this site that will give you some info on it: wsws.org/en/articles/2002/11/yem-n12.html , This is what Obama will probably claim as his legal precedence! I think that was illegal then also! Read the Constitution, especially the 5th Amendment as this pertains to the issue at hand, in short: "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

This is a thorny issue to be sure. I support the concept of due process of law. However, when individuals declare war on the US by either word or deed, regardless of their citizenship or current place of residence, they forfeit their right to due process and should expect to bear the consequences of their actions. My preference would be for them to be apprehended and convicted of their crimes in a court of law, but I can foresee circumstances where I would be unwilling to risk American lives to bring this about. I have not had problems with the publicly reported instances in which this policy has been used, but I do worry about a precedent being set and its misuse in he future. A reasonable compromise might be a oversight process whereby a trial of sorts would be required before an individual's name is added to a "kill list". Once a person is on the they could be taken out by a drone, or any other mechanism, whenever the opportunity presents itself.

The fact that people actually voted for Shawn D's comment is disturbing. People who think like him will also be victims of the very system they support. I live on the US/Mex border and drones fly overhead frequently. According to Shawn D, it's ok to kill me and my children. Such brainwashed cowards.

cowboy, only the courts put a bounty on criminals, the sheriff just hammered up the post. Right wingers need to decide, do we want to be tough on terrorists>? or soft on terrorists? the ACLU has taken the same stand as the right wing bloggers here. ohhh nooooo, republicans are in agreement with the aclu? has anybody seen any flying pigs outside? lol this is the most bizarre situation I have ever seen in any blog or chat forum. the dems are against the ACLU stand, and the Republicans are for it. lol

in case you have not heard, the ACLU is involved in a law suit against the gov. (obama) for killing a guy named Alaki, who set up the under ware bomber and made the bomb, because they killed him with a drone in Yemen or similar country. lol

So now that the right wing is in agreement with the ACLU, i can die knowing i've seen it all lmfao.

I'm a died in the wool Dem, but I'm going with the Bush docterine. If you harbor a terroist, or are connected with a terrorist, you are just as guilty as the terrorist, and we will hunt you down and kill you. I don't know what could be more clear.

This is modern warfare...this is not 1940, or even 1965. These are people who are plotting to kill innocent people just to create terror in order to demoralize our country. I'm not foolish enough to believer that the US isn't somewhat complicit or doesn't contribute to the problems.

What rules of engagement do they use?...suicide bomber kills 100 people outside a market or a mosque. These are their rules of engagement....and skip the BS about civilization, this is survival.

I'm not saying drones are a solution without problems, but let's be practical. the drone solution is the best answer to protecting our country and way of life. Let's value our military personnel and use robots and drones to do the work of warfare.

I have been watching the Brennan hearing blow by blow and I have decided that if I were a Senator with the power to vote an up or down vote, I would vote NO!!! I would not want this man head of the CIA. When a Senator asked him about Drones being used against Americans on American soil he evaded the question only eluding that he will willingly attack Americans on our own soil. Brennan showed more concern for terrorists over there than Americans over here. He was caught by several Senators as being the MAIN leaker causing the death of an important "Asset" over there. This man not only should not be CIA director but should be put on trial for causing the death of someone helping the CIA. Until we view leaks as synonymous with Premeditated murder we will keep loosing people needlessly. We have put up with this reckless behavior since the Philip Agee leaks all the way up to today. He also sided with Libya on the Benghazi issue stating he was comfortable with the fact that the Libyans let one of the terrorists go free. Brennan obviously has no problem with the death of Ambassador Stevens and the three other brave who gave their lives fighting to save other Americans on location. Brennan also lied about the existence of current covert operations because the CIA has been complaining that they have been forced to stop doing covert OPS. Our absence is easily noticed by the fact that ALL the gains that we made under the Bush administration have been undone showing that we, meaning the CIA, are no longer on the ground.

What is all this drone talk? Lets get to the real news......did anyone see Michelles arms? How about how smooth Barry sings? Now that should be headline news for the state run media on a daily basis......oh wait.

Talk about all over the board liberal logic on this issue. First the justice department wanted to bring terrorists from Gitmo to the US for trial, and it took some serious effort to prevent that idiocy. The we have cries of torture with water boarding, and that cannot be condoned. But lobbing a missile from a spy drone in the direction of a perceived terrorist is perfectly okay. As is the collateral damage that always occurs with such strikes. Of course no body, no remains, no proof, just the word from Obama that we got the right person. Does the Obama administration actually use the terms terrorist or Islamic extremist? I have heard Obama say acts of terror, but the words terrorist or Islamic extremist doesn't seem politically correct. So lets just say Obama didn't like them, they made his list, and hopefully the rest of us never do. But most things started by the government have a way of growing out of control, so let us hope the Obama hit list never does.

What was that old WWII song?

Kill them all, kill them all, kill the long, the short and the tall.

Those of you demanding due process for these traitorous turncoats who would not hesitate to murder innocent Americans, the solution is simple, you go over there and convince them to come back here and stand trial. Until then, I agree with the program of slam, bam, thank you mam!

garbageman-2736857

@AntiCMatthews, Actually read about this yesterday, but there was a US citizen killed on 11/03/2002 during G.W.Bush era in Yemen by our first drone attack there, his name was Kemal Derwish aka Ahmed Hijazi!

Apples to Oranges. Hijazi was NOT the target and there is no evidence that the US even knew he was in the car. Collateral damage is not the same thing as deliberately targeting an American citizen for assassination.

The Constitution is dead. Natural rights are not and were never subject to citizenship, let alone what country you happen to be in. This will inevitably be used to kill political dissidents vacationing abroad/visting relatives overseas who have no actual connection to terrorists. And it will inevitably, even if secretly at first, used to kill political dissidents here at home too.

As someone who is libertarian and travels abroad to many nations for work (I play poker for a living, and have for better than 5 years now), I have a great fear that I will find myself on some list (if I'm not already). My political and philosophical opinions are not mainstream (albeit completely nonviolent except in direct self defense). But history has shown people like me get rounded up and killed when the ship of state goes down.

It's over. The govt our Founders created is gone. People think Constitutitonal rights are not natural rights. They believe falsely that your rights are granted by govt and therefore dependent upon your citizenship. The classical liberals (both parties of the Founders and Framers - the Federalists and Anti-Federalists) would be totally ashamed of us, and be urging us to revolt (I say nonvioently, but they would suggest violence - have no doubt about that).

America is dead...it was a philosophy, a people, and a land. The people and land remian, but the philosophy is laying a grave. WE need to resurrect it...but i fear the sheep that tarte he people simply wish to keep throwing dirt upon the casket.

I am seriously considering moving to another country, both to play online poker legally (the govt outlawed it here - tyrants), and to possibly renounce my citizenship and stop paying taxes eventually to what is quickly becoming a monster of a govt. The Founder knew govt was evil and needed to be kept small...but this "necessary evil" is doing a lot more evil and doing a lot more than necessary.

They have us afriad of something that is a low risk to pourt lives - terrorism. Literaly bathtubs have killed more Americans per year over the last 10-12 years than terrorism. No one seems to think in terms of probabilities; the rational chance it will harm us, as opposed to the irrational fear we have of HOW we will die. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have empathy for victms and thtetirt ltovtetdt otntetst, tbtut EVEN IF we had a 9/11 every single year in the USA, your house would be more dangerous to your life than terrorism. I'm not exaggerating. House fires kill 4,000 Americans a year and maim 25,000. Terrorism on 9/11 killed 3,000. Your house would be more dangerous to your life and well being...it's probalistic fact.

Rational people fer things based on the chances they will harm them, not based on irrational disproportionate fear of them. Whether these things are acts or murtder or accidents in irrelevant to risk computations.

Think Americans...it's patriotic. There is no greater act of patriotism than dissent from the govt. A lack of critical thinking has killed America as we knew it. Only sheep and sophists can see it any other way. All your chest-beating, flag-waving, and anthem-singing won't change that. Memes and propaganda slogans do not a patriot make.

If we know who the al-Qaida operative is, or who the terrorists are, why do we have to blow them up, why can’t we just round them up and process them in the usual way?

Are we perhaps concerned that our legal system is so “screwed up” that these people may be able to twist their way through the courts, be found innocent, released and will sue the government for everything they’ve got?

That’s what it is!!!

Even the general is sceptical of our legal system. Gen. Michael Hayden said “interrogating al Qaida operatives is a vital source of insight into the terrorists’ plans. But he warned, “We have made it so legally difficult and so politically dangerous to capture that it seems, from the outside looking in, that the default option is to take the terrorists off the battlefield in another sort of way” – in other words, by killing them.”

I am all for keeping the nation safe but not this way, wiping them off the surface of the earth and perhaps killing others, innocent bystanders!

Fix the legal system and regain worldwide respect by doing it transparently!!

Any of you jackholes who are so against the use of drones....I would imagine you would eagerly volunteer to go in yourselves to apprehend these people? Thought not. Like so many dullards in the United States these days, you're very willing for SOMEONE ELSE to go in harm's way and do the work while you sit on your ass and sling your opinions.

They're planning on having over 30,000 drones in service by 2020 in the US. Not in another country where terrorists hang out- in the USA! Why would we need that many drones here?

Beware of the mighty President! Next he will be using "Drones" on domestic targets. After the Rico Act we can all be considered "Terrorists"! Do the research citizens! Anyone who voices a "Negative" about current government can be put on the list. Just associating with Bikers can get you in trouble. It's just a matter of time before we see it all unfold. The Sandy Hook Hoax is an example! The Feds took control of the scene and we only get what info they choose to tell us. When was the last time they allowed a citizen to be at one of these investigations? They keep hiding the truth from us and we are just letting it happen. Even at local crime scenes the police won't allow any citizen to be invoved to take note of what is really found. Only those that are part of the governments agenda are allowed anywhere near the scenes.

Hummmmmmm The "Office of Legal Counsel"

"Newsweek characterized the OLC as "the most important government office you've never heard of. Among its bosses -- before they went on the Supreme Court -- were William Rehnquist and Antonin Scalia. Within the executive branch, including the Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency, the OLC acts as a kind of mini Supreme Court. Its carefully worded opinions are regarded as binding precedent -- final say on what the president and all his agencies can and cannot legally do."^[3] However, this binding effect has never been tested in a U.S. court." ...wiki

The rights of American citizens to" Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness," and "Equal Protection Under Law" granted to us by the Constitution through our Bill of Rights, has just been nullified by multiple administrations & congress s .... this is just the icing on the cake .. and decisions of this body are heavily influenced by the administration that is responsible for their appointment .. they are there to say what their mentor wants to hear. Like all lawyers (liars) they are there to construe the law the way that is desired by their client ... the Attorney General of The United States and the President.

"Its carefully worded opinions are regarded as binding precedent" Effectively " settled law" that must be followed. no further review ..

In other words, by fiat of a unelected individual, appointed by the executive branch on what the law means ... the entire purpose of our constitution and its guarantees of protection to the citizens of the United States is thrown away .. like dishwater down the drain .....

Does Anyone really believe that is ans was the "Intent" of our founding fathers when they drafted this great document?

Whoever orchestrated this idea is the greatest American Traitor of all time; John Brennan is purportedly the architect of the last element of this .. the right to kill American citizens anywhere in the world, (or anyone else that might be associated with the "Wrong" ideas) without indictment, trial, or judicial review .... but all associated with this clandestine plot to overthrow our Constitutional rights and protection should be exposed for the traitors they are and pay the consequences ...

John Brennan s confirmation would be a serious mistake ... and is tacit approval by congress to the dismissal of our constitutional rights ....

VOTE HIM DOWN ...

JS69

Damned if you do damned if you don’t!! Is that how it works?

Next thing you will be complaining about your rights, too late, “baaaannngggg” and you are no more!!!

Any of you jackholes who are so against the use of drones....I would imagine you would eagerly volunteer to go in yourselves to apprehend these people?

That's an illogical argument. Trial rights and due process are natural rights. We already pay people to do that job. You seem to have no problem with a worldwide police project where we constantly invade and occupy nations to set up puppet govts when those very nations are no threat to us (Iraq, Vietnam, most of our wars and military actions in our history), BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN when we suggest a judicial review of an ILLEGAL assasination program (yes, it is against U.S. Law to use assasination, not just of citizens), you want us to join your military.

I can't trust them to NOT order me, on the threat of prison or loss of pay/benefits to me and my family, into an unjustified war or action. Why would anyone sign up for that except young impressionable kids who have more patriotism than brains?

Get rid of their ability to send mei nto unjust wars that are not in direct self defense of my fellow citizens, and then AND ONLY THEN may you ask such a stupid, illogical, BS question.

I guess we shouldn't give trials to murderers because I'm not willing to be a cop who goes nd arrests them?

I guess we shouldn't diffuse bombs because I'm not willing to join the bomb squad?

C'mon. Use logic.

No one puts our soldiers in harms way for no good reason more than our govt. This isn't one of those reasons. Natural rights is a Founding principal of this country, and natural rights have nothing to do with citizenship. And you get no actionable intellgience from dead men.

You asked a stupid, illogical question.

There must be judicial review. We cannot just take the govt's word for it that these people are terrorists. Are you that gullible?

I watched this whole Brennan hearing all afternoon. I thought he was very evasive in areas he should not have been (not for the sake of necessary secrets). One senator questioned him as to whether or not he was pure CIA or just Obama's political lapdog. Another senator in an interview afterward wonders also if he is just Obama's lapdog. Apparently some at the CIA wonder the same thing. He talks out of both sides of his mouth on waterboarding, etc. He was very vague about the use of drones on Americans, even vague as to their use on our soil. I find him a devious character and do not want to see him confirmed. I pity the CIA if they get stuck with him. It is going to be a very long four years.

@JS69 Guess what, I did volunteer to fight during the Vietnam War, because I thought our government could do no wrong, and then I grew up and matured and started to use rational thought. I realized that having a jingoistic mentallity and not looking to reason was wrong. We have fought against what our country has said was an evil dictatorship, and also have actually supported dictatorial type governments[ they weren't a democracy] and at, what cost? Sometimes these were both a friend at one time and an enemy later,[see Saddam Hussein] that we have used to meet our governments needs! Why do you suppose we always seem to be trying to IMPOSE our idea of democracy on the world? How is it DEMOCRACY if it is imposed? We seem to always be in some sort of military action, why do you think that happens? I have my answers what are yours?

wtw of KC

If we know who the al-Qaida operative is, or who the terrorists are, why do we have to blow them up, why can’t we just round them up and process them in the usual way?

Are we perhaps concerned that our legal system is so “screwed up” that these people may be able to twist their way through the courts, be found innocent, released and will sue the government for everything they’ve got?

No, that's not the problem at all. The problem is that this administration has backed themselves into a corner. They can't capture them because they have no place they are willing to put them. If the President sends anyone to Gitmo his base will have a hissy fit. If they make any effort to extract info from them, again, his base will have a hissy fit.

The drone strike policy is little more than a cop-out for Obama. Sure, for many, if not most, of these guys a missile from an unseen drone is the best or even the only option. But the idea that we couldn't nab a few of the higher ups if we wished is obviously a fallacy made clear by the OBL raid.

"More people have died from squirrel bites"

The World Trade Center, one flight into the Pentagon and one into a field. The late American terrorist Anwar whatever... fully supported such acts. If it walks like a duck etc. Please, conspiracy nuts, don't bother with your BS OBL could have be erased had he ever gone outside! But some think he should have had a trial? Personally, I don't think our American rights should be extended to murdering swine, who boast about their deeds.

@BackCountry How can you know that he was collateral damage and not part of the group killed, they were all in the same vehicle, and it would appear as though that we must of known who was inside! Or why would we be bombing them? Was he collateral damage because our government said so? Was that their excuse for killing him? Then we can say they all are collateral damage, and that we were actually trying to kill the person with them! How convienent! All you have to do is look at our government and ask yourself, Are they telling us the truth all the time,or some spin that the jingos will accept? I am sorry that you appear to take offense for pointing out that incident, but I try and look at all sides and do not use political loyalty to shade my views! I prefer to look at the actions to make my decision about their value! I would also agree with your comment in 1.35

Two words: DUE PROCESS

ALL Americans ARE to be protected by it! INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty! It IS for ALL Americans! Equal Protection Under The Law...

"When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the 6th Amendment, I was quiet because I am innocent.
When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I don't own a gun.
Now they have taken the 1st Amendment, and I can only be quiet." -– Lyle Myhr

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson

This process has turned into so much nonsense: it has become a "further my own personal political career..." spree from member of both the republican and democratic party. I (usually, and for a long time have) vote for conservative republicans; but right now I have to say to a bunch of republicans who are jumping with both feet into this fray, "shame on You, you're really showing your worthlessness as leaders of anything!" And too many of you guys at capitol hill (and many other capitols) have become nothing more than selfish, childish, gossips, interested in seeking what you can take away from someone else! Some of you politicians are worse than anything the communist party was promising to turn out to the world 50 years ago; you would truly sell this nation and all its people for a handful of money! Wouldn't you? [I don't worry about what any of you readers here think I have said, either. I know there are some older readers, who still have a memory, who know what I am saying. But how long will we be here ... before this nation goes to ...?]

ProIndividual-3906907

The Constitution is dead. Natural rights are not and were never subject to citizenship, let alone what country you happen to be in. This will inevitably be used to kill political dissidents vacationing abroad/visting relatives overseas who have no actual connection to terrorists. And it will inevitably, even if secretly at first, used to kill political dissidents here at home too.

As someone who is libertarian and travels abroad to many nations for work (I play poker for a living, and have for better than 5 years now), I have a great fear that I will find myself on some list (if I'm not already). My political and philosophical opinions are not mainstream (albeit completely nonviolent except in direct self defense). But history has shown people like me get rounded up and killed when the ship of state goes down.

It's over. The govt our Founders created is gone. People think Constitutitonal rights are not natural rights. They believe falsely that your rights are granted by govt and therefore dependent upon your citizenship. The classical liberals (both parties of the Founders and Framers - the Federalists and Anti-Federalists) would be totally ashamed of us, and be urging us to revolt (I say nonvioently, but they would suggest violence - have no doubt about that).

America is dead...it was a philosophy, a people, and a land. The people and land remian, but the philosophy is laying a grave. WE need to resurrect it...but i fear the sheep that tarte he people simply wish to keep throwing dirt upon the casket.

I am seriously considering moving to another country, both to play online poker legally (the govt outlawed it here - tyrants), and to possibly renounce my citizenship and stop paying taxes eventually to what is quickly becoming a monster of a govt. The Founder knew govt was evil and needed to be kept small...but this "necessary evil" is doing a lot more evil and doing a lot more than necessary.

They have us afriad of something that is a low risk to pourt lives - terrorism. Literaly bathtubs have killed more Americans per year over the last 10-12 years than terrorism. No one seems to think in terms of probabilities; the rational chance it will harm us, as opposed to the irrational fear we have of HOW we will die. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have empathy for victms and thtetirt ltovtetdt otntetst, tbtut EVEN IF we had a 9/11 every single year in the USA, your house would be more dangerous to your life than terrorism. I'm not exaggerating. House fires kill 4,000 Americans a year and maim 25,000. Terrorism on 9/11 killed 3,000. Your house would be more dangerous to your life and well being...it's probalistic fact.

Rational people fer things based on the chances they will harm them, not based on irrational disproportionate fear of them. Whether these things are acts or murtder or accidents in irrelevant to risk computations.

Think Americans...it's patriotic. There is no greater act of patriotism than dissent from the govt. A lack of critical thinking has killed America as we knew it. Only sheep and sophists can see it any other way. All your chest-beating, flag-waving, and anthem-singing won't change that. Memes and propaganda slogans do not a patriot make.

#1.25 - Thu Feb 7, 2013 6:14 PM EST

Amen brother and not in a religious way, you know what people will be when we finally have to take this gov't over by force, we'll all be called terrorists and I hope to god that the people who fly these and our troops have more sense than to follow the order of tyrants (our whole gov't is corrupt, and paid for) Until we start doing what is necassary to make this a better place to live and not just follow the money trail. Money is obsolete people, it's not even real, does anyone even understand how our monetary system works, the money is backed by nothing, it's air and digital I/O's.

Since the federal reserve was founded in 1913 by a non-exsistant and mostly on vacation congress our world has never been the same and won't until we halt the progression of money. Money boils down to everything that is wrong with not just the U.S. but the world.

People don't understand that fossil fuels are outdated and not even needed, but because we let a few systems of control like the Federal reserve, world bank and IMF tell us that it's worth something we slave for nothing at jobs we hate to make like 1,000 people on this planet of 8 billion super-rich. I mean seriously does no one see that those people only have power because the we let them have it. It could change literally overnight, but you all want to keep playing the rat-race I guess and be thankful you have a job, you know who else is thankful you have a job the federal reserve, because your taxes go directly to pay the national debt.

Imagine a world without money and the possibilities. I no longer live in the system, I wish I could find something to do without paying taxes as well, but I have no loans and never will again, best thing that could happen is this country is everyone stop paying on your mortgage and cars and see what happens, it'd be a beautiful thing. No doubt it would be a rough couple of years, but you'd be amazed what people can do when they work together for a common goal.

Common goal I remember something like a long time ago, when we kicked the british's ass and wrote a thing called the constitution. Hmmm... wouldn't that be nice.

Rumsfeld and other Bush cronies argued then that as long as there was no blood coming out after those questionable interrogation tactics were apllied, it's not torture. WOW, I mean, nothing surprises me now...such creative geniuses. Such tactics should make Bush a candidate for the worst personalities of inhuman history.

1984

Doublespeak, Doublethink

There is no doubt that the anti-terrorist policies in this country have no feet or head. Initially Obama and Erick Holder, whose law firm I donate hundreds of hours giving legal assistance to detainees at GITMO accused Bush for failing to court the detainees by terrorism and by the inhuman mistreatment, abuse and savage interrogations incompatible with the values of Americans, Obama-Holder agree to close this property and transfer the prisoners to civil courts. At the beginning of his Government, Obama signed an executive order to close GITMO. During these last years many terrorism suspects have been released by this Administration then they have reinstated to terrorist groups. It is certainly very different to look at things from outside of the kitchen to be the Cook, Obama however instead of accepting that their critical to Bush were wrong, in a desperate exit plans a strategy grinded contradictory to what he preached to the point that violates the rights of American terrorist who kills without prosecution. There have criticism. The hypocrisy of the left to condemn the actions in this case Bush, then do something that, according to its own ideology, are even more reprehensible. Hypocrisy and double standard

I post this here only as information that might further explain our governments position on multiple questions we are being confronted with ....

(1) citizen owned weapons that offer superior fire power in assault situations

(2) the latest revelation of the position of the administration of the right to kill American citizen without consideration of their constitutional rights ..

I have not checked the accuracy of the facts of the story, you will have to determine their veracity...

The following article was posted on DRUDGEREPORT today:

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

Federal agency has now acquired enough bullets to wage 30 year war

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 7, 2013

The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.

A solicitation posted yesterday on the Fed Bid website details how the bullets are required for the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico.

The solicitation asks for 10 million pistol cartridge .40 caliber 165 Grain, jacketed Hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds) and 10 million 9mm 115 grain jacketed hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds).

The document also lists a requirement for 1.6 million pistol cartridge 9mm ball bullets (40 quantities of 40,000 rounds).

An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion. In March 2012, ATK announced that they had agreed to provide the DHS with a maximum of 450 million bullets over four years, a story that prompted questions about why the feds were buying ammunition in such large quantities. In September last year, the federal agency purchased a further 200 million bullets.

To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.

Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest. In 2011, Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano directed Immigration and Customs Enforcement to prepare for a mass influx of immigrants into the United States, calling for the plan to deal with the "shelter" and "processing" of large numbers of people.

The federal agency's primary concern is now centered around thwarting "homegrown terrorism," but information produced and used by the DHS to train its personnel routinely equates conservative political ideology with domestic extremism.

A study funded by the Department of Homeland Security that was leaked last year characterizes Americans who are "suspicious of centralized federal authority," and "reverent of individual liberty" as "extreme right-wing" terrorists.

In August 2012, the DHS censored information relating to the amount of bullets purchased by the federal agency on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement, citing an "unusual and compelling urgency" to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation that could cause "substantial safety issues for the government" should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed.

As we highlighted last month, the DHS' previous ammunition solicitation was awarded to Evian Group, an organization that was formed just five days before the announcement of the solicitation and appeared to be little more than a front organization since it didn't have a genuine physical address, a website, or even a phone number.

While Americans are being browbeaten with rhetoric about the necessity to give up semi-automatic firearms in the name of preventing school shootings, the federal government is arming itself to the teeth with both ammunition and guns. Last September, the DHS purchased no less than 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles, labeling them "Personal Defense Weapons."

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News."

If this is factual .. it appears as if our government is preparing for a long term battle with its citizens .... if there is a alternate reason for such extreme purchases ...please explain ..

Woodysr

OBL could have be erased had he ever gone outside! But some think he should have had a trial? Personally, I don't think our American rights should be extended to murdering swine, who boast about their deeds.

Should our American rights be extended to other Americans?? After all that is what the discussion here is about.

The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny, and it is useless for the
innocent to try by reasoning to get justice, when the oppressor intends to be
unjust. - The moral to one of Aesop's fables.

And I am sure Obama and his minions like this *sshole will have plenty of pretexts. What will it take for Americans to finally stand up to these dictators and stop them?

garbageman-2736857

@BackCountry How can you know that he was collateral damage and not part of the group killed, they were all in the same vehicle, and it would appear as though that we must of known who was inside!

He WAS a part of the group killed but he WAS NOT the intended target. That was my point, Getting in the way is not the same thing as directly targeting an individual for assassination Also, we did NOT know who was inside. What we knew was that the target was identified by voice when he used a phone and the signal was intercepted. That is why the strike was ordered. Here is a better source in regard to what the actual claims are- http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2012/07/16/targeted-killings-and-signature-strikes/

I am sorry that you appear to take offense for pointing out that incident, but I try and look at all sides and do not use political loyalty to shade my views!

I'm not offended in the least and I hope you aren't accusing me of "political loyalty" because as a libertarian, there are many politicians for me to be "loyal" to even if I so desired.

If the Obama Administration was smarter, they would at least bring charges in federal court against any American citizens before killing them.

Killing an American citizen without even charging them with a crime smacks of 'Assassination'.

What really shocks me in these posts is that the same liberals who loudly condemned George Bush for doing even lesser actions against terrorists are supporting even worse things when "their" guy does it! I happen to agree that these traitors to our country deserve anything that happens to them, but, I am still shocked about how some people's beliefs can change so dramatically and so quickly! Sounds like a huge chunk of "hypocrisy" is being served on the American people!

Hello GetMeOutAlive, Excellent post! You have summed it up nicely, now the question is, do we have the resolve as a country to fight this tyranny? I hope to God we do!

Pigotry "Such tactics should make Bush a candidate for the worst personalities of inhuman history"

Let's see now - Bush authorizes 3 top level al Qaida admitted terrorists water-boarded to obtain information on imminent attacks, and that's equivalent to Hitler murdering 6 million Jews, and Attila butchering millions, but of course Obama authorizing the assassination of American citizens without even bringing any charges against them is OK with you.

What an interesting perspective, especially when our military water-boarded thousands of American soldiers as a 'training exercise', without apparent harm.

ProIndividual...You said trial rights and due process are natural rights. I disagree. There are numerous countries in the world, Theocracies, as they are known, who's concepts of trial rights and natural rights are distinct from the interpretation of secular democracies. Because of the fact there is dispute between the opposing ideologies, your argument is wrong on both fronts. Define what you mean by trial rights and natural rights, and remember our (US) laws function within the confines of our boarders and territories, but are not universal around the world. This is one of the reasons we are in conflict with Islamic extremists, different viewpoints about "trial rights", etc.

@BackCountry re: comment1.47 "He WAS a part of the group killed but he WAS NOT the intended target. That was my point" The Blog you mention only appears to validate my beliefs that I have gotten from info I have read, "Reportedly, the National Security Agency (NSA) intercepteda satellite phone call coming from the SUV filled with men. After an NSA analyst—who had listened to tapes of al-Harithi’s voice for years—heard confirming evidence", notice the word "reportedly", that does appear to me to be stating fact. As I said in comment 1.37, "Was he collateral damage because our government said so? "Then we can say they all are collateral damage, and that we were actually trying to kill the person with them! How convienent!" Sorry I have a hard time believing all our government tells us,[see Weapons Of Mass Destruction]! I didn't even believe it when Powell was making the case for it because he would use words like "seems", "appears" etc., which always puts me on alert as to why they[politicians] are not using definitive words! It also says that we are targeting someone because of what they hear, how is that professional, There are times, that I do not recognize people that call me, and they are people I know very well!,Sorry your proof doesn't validate the truth of it, but I will always doubt it's veracity, as I do not trust our government and have to listen to them with a grain of salt! As far as the later part of your comment about party loyalty, I too,consider myself an independent, don't like to even use the word Libertarians, but they are closest to my ideals! You are correct though, I was inferring that you were being loyal to GW/Republicans[ there are many] and I assumed that you didn't like that I was using him as an example, in the comment I was making in 1.14, " I think that was illegal then also!" Which was about the 5th Amendment, and "Due Process". I apologize if that was not your intent! Thank you for that site info!

@BackCountry correction to a sentence in comment 1.53 " that does "not" appear to me to be stating fact." I inserted "not". Dog distracted me!

I must say that those folks would be out in force had it remained illegal to preemptively kill a citizen when other life was clearly and knowingly endangered and allowed to die because of it. Release those files would ya?

As it is all presidents are targeted upon as dirty wrong a bit daft endangered egotistical stupid illiterate etc.. But brash back-steps are those of the coward who did not face front planted firm. We are meant to also care for the government that is ours that is meant to be us represented as such and to turn on it and its children is in fact treason is it not? The only question to remain is if an innocent citizen in some way knowingly unknowingly unfettered tied or relinquished stay with life on account that immediate threat and harm will be spared coerced or killed? Can we kill an innocent citizen unknowing of his or her own threat to save a mass from harm deadly or otherwise and to give what is taken in the same degree remain plum and tied to the factor of elevated design> ; ]

Cheers

Cheers!

Pigotry you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You can't rail against Bush and then turn around and approve of Obama doing much worse than Bush has ever done. Hypocricy at it's finest coming from the left. The Kings subjects APPROVE of anything the KING does.....whether it is right or whether it is wrong and this is wrong.

The police state implications of Obama's assassination program

7 February 2013

The Obama administration’s recently-leaked “white paper” on the assassination of US citizens, and the actions carried out on the basis of the arguments it advances, must be taken as a dire warning to the working class in the United States and around the world. The democratic rights of the people are in grave peril. The American ruling class, steeped in lawlessness and violence, is moving toward dictatorship.

The administration’s frontal assault on democratic rights and constitutional protections—asserting the “right” of the president to unilaterally and secretly order the state murder of American citizens—is undeniably grounds for impeachment. The crimes of Richard Nixon, who nearly 40 years ago resigned the presidency rather than face impeachment and removal from office, pale in comparison to Obama’s assertion of unconstrained executive powers.

The pseudo-legal arguments of the Justice Department memo, recalling the Bush administration’s infamous torture memoranda, boil down to the following:

The president and the military-intelligence apparatus, based solely on their own internal deliberations, have the power to assassinate any US citizen who they decide is a leading member of Al Qaeda or its “associated forces.” This power has no geographic boundaries. Nor can it be limited by any form of congressional or judicial oversight. The White House and its military/intelligence advisers are judge, jury and executioner.

The entire document is an exercise in doubletalk and sophistry. While it asserts, for example, that those selected for elimination have to pose an “imminent threat of violent attack,” it proceeds to define “imminent” to mean its opposite. The government needs no proof that any specific action is planned or that something is to take place in the immediate future.

In the end, nothing remains of core democratic rights. The principle of due process—with roots going back to the 13th Century and enshrined in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution’s assertion that no individual can be “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”—is dispensed with.

The justifications for this assertion of dictatorial powers—national security and the requirements of war (in this case, the global “war on terror”)—are the same as those invoked by every military and fascist regime, from Hitler to Pinochet.

Yet these developments have provoked no significant opposition from within the political or media establishment.

The response of the New York Times, the main newspaper of American liberalism, is particularly significant. In an editorial published Wednesday, the Times regrets the undisguised character of the administration’s contempt for constitutional restraints and proposes measures to give the killing operation, including of American citizens, a legalistic gloss. It suggests the creation of a “special [i.e., secret] court to handle this sort of sensitive discussion, like the one it created to review wiretapping.” In other words, a star chamber to rubber-stamp state murders in similar fashion as the secret FISA court sanctions unlimited domestic spying.

The Times does not call for a halt to program of extra-judicial assassinations, nor does it suggest that Obama and his accomplices be held to account…

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/02/07/pers-f07.html

The question of drones are just part of Brennen's interview. One republican wants to hold up his nomination until he answers questions about his salary from a private company. A question Never asked of any nominee before. No one ever asked Don Rumsfeld about his link to supplying parts to North Korea to make nukes and how much he made from it. Do we need more over-site on targeting US citizens, yes we do. Should we allow the targeting of US citizens who take up arms or plot the killing of US citizens, yes we should. In reality it's no different than any of us killing a person threatening a member of your family. If you kill someone who threatens a family member, you have killed someone that has yet to commit a crime and has not had a fair trial. Any Us citizen who leaves US soil and takes up arms against the US or plots the killing of US citizens is just like a person holding a gun to the head of a family member. I would have no qualms about pulling the trigger on either to protect my country or family.

Steve Herbert....

This discussion is about the ability for the President Of The United States to impose the death sentence on a Citizen of The United States without due process. You seek to muddy the waters of this discussion with your opinions of Islamic Extremists and a list that might be culled from the worst offenders of liberty. We are concerned with the liberties of Americans on this matter. Our sole responsibility is to remain obedient to the Constitution in dealing with our Citizens, no matter where they are located. Instead of invoking examples that do not matter to the discussion, you might try the Declaration Of Independence for an idea about The Founders thoughts on rights and liberty. I copied and paste this as an example of their thoughts:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that
they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among
these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--

That list was necessarily incomplete, and they later expanded it, but I do not think the Founders had any idea of ever revoking the foundation.... only adding to it as future circumstances deemed fit. They used examples from around the world to build their document, selecting the best ideas and rejecting the others.

Your argument seeks to cover ground The Founders have already rejected. They did not control foreign governments. They did not want them controlling ours. Their system rested on the idea of inalienable rights and I believe they intended for that idea to be part of any discussion that sought to alter their original ideas. They never thought of giving back any of their hard won freedoms, but were open to expanding on them when just cause dictated that such be done.

The argument isn't about those Theocracies, it's about the rights our Constitution affords us.

I'm sorry, but if you are against our President keeping us safe from harm at all costs, then YOU are the terrorists! Pull your head out!!

@ cowboy17,

In the old west we still had Marshals, Constables and Sheriffs and the U.S. Army. We also had Circuit Judges for territories. It wasn't the Sheriff that put out Dead or Alive posters it was the Judges. Don't act like the Wild West was completely lawless. The Sheriff still needed probable cause to ask a Judge for such an order. Back then we took our constitution as it was written not like it is now. You've been watching to much TV.

Pigotry---is it always Bush with you or did you not read the article---It's Obama that is dropping bombs, making terrorist enemies, and wiping away any chance of intelligence from the dead terrorists he leaves in the drones wake. Not Bush, YOUR PRESIDENT. Dr. King said "I have a dream".....Obama comes along and says "I have a drone". Who knows Piggy, he may be talking about you!

GetMeOutAlive42----THAT was the most informed piece of writing on this space. You are commendable. No blame shifting, no name calling, just flat out excellence. Piggy girl could learn a thing or two from you.

@ brutaltruth, You are correct about Piggy.She is stuck on Bush for some reason and incapable of forward thinking.Every post she makes is either about Bush or bashing Republicans in some way and she always refers to the past.If i were a Democrat i would not to associate with Piggy because she sounds more like a hater.(and Democrats are not supposed to be haters are they?)She is not very progressive either.Her attitude hurts the party because she drives away moderates who might just vote Democratic.The list goes on and on.She also igonores anyone who disagrees with her so that is a good thing.

Johnnyt... The Declaration of Independence is different from the Constitution in that the colonies rebelled against the monarchy... the monarchy deriving it's rights directly from God through inheritance ( linage ). Of course one must plow through English history back through time to 1066, Cromwell and etc, the establishment of Parliament, but the claims of Monarchs is their powers are derived through "powers" other than secular republic style of authorship as the US has. The US Constitution establishes state's rights, individual rights, and the court system to interpret those rights, and when one swears to uphold the Constitution, one does so to protect it from enemies, " both foreign and domestic ". So in the case of an individual who was born a citizen, that makes him a "domestic", but he's fighting a "foreign" cause in the case of jihad, which you are protecting the Constitution from. This is because Jihad is a religious interpretation, a finding by a religious court, not a secular court as ours are... Going back to Henry VIII who established The Church of England, that was over divorce. It was basically a power struggle between the Roman Catholic Church, and Protestants. There were no states rights back then, nor individual rights as we know them today. It was a religious interpretation of when one was separated from one's head. The Protestants prevailed, the colonies then prevailed in their rebellion with the monarchy, and we are where we are at today of courts, and jury's of one's peers.

Anwar al-Aulaqi was an American. He was killed by a drone bearing a missile. Now the question was asked: Do we extend American constitutional rights to an American? In this case, the US attempted to get him captured and offered rewards, benefits to the tribesmen hiding him. The Yemeni government attempted to seize him. All failed. He was a American born man preaching violence against American citizens. Civilian citizens. He went on public media, even YOUTube to further his desired killings of Americans. He was proudly self admitting this guilt. So, Rights? He forfeited all Constitutional rights when he orated against and fomented death to Americans. So yes, quite justifiable. We should have a holiday on the annual anniversary of his Hellfire to Hell!

"Targeted killing" = assassination

Assassination = crime

"Targeted killing" is Elite Speak for assassination.

Assassination is categorically, unequivocally, against the law.

Both presidents Jerald Ford and Obama's hero Ronald Reagan outlawed assassination (Granted in Reagan's it case it was probably just for PR purposes)

Who watches the watchers?

"that person is no longer a U.S. Citizen"

This is exactly the point...there is judicial steps to indict and convict citizens of treason (punishable by death) and then kill them with drones.

So, why do we need this Policy again?

The problem we face here is, where is the proof that these individuals are terrorists?

If we cannot prove that someone is guilty, then aren't they innocent?

And where's the documentation that shows they are guilty?

If we allow this to happen, then were do we draw the line between having to have a fair trial and not having any trial? Do we let government officials be the jury?

in rips this country off almost as much as Mcconnell and boner yet we hear nothing about them from the radical right.. GROW UP folks and realize the truth and take responsibility for it since you wanted it and voted that incompetent TEXAN.. one who sat in the childs chyair for more than 25 seconds when informed of the tragedy of 9/11.. and then hid until he had a wet dream about WMD, Cheney was probably in bed with him literally

And if a drone strike would have shut down the assault on the embassy at Benghazi, what would this discussion be like?

Chris, next time you travel overseas and stand next to someone who is thought to be a "terrorist" you'll be terrorized by the very drone you support.

avaguat... let's go hunting for weapons of mass destruction.. so we can have anothyer war

by the way there should be some sort of retaliation if a country, or ethnic group threatens any american site, or people.. I am curious do you believe ther was any thought about the thousands of people MURDERED on 9/11/01

Chris d, Read the whole article and I'm sure that doesn't tell you half of what Obama wants to do. Part of it sounds just fine, great get rid of those scumbags. did you skip over the part where it says there are no geographical limitations? That means if Obama says he thinks your a terrorist chris then I don't want you standing near me. This GD obama does this SHI* with any and all stuff he trys to shove down our throats. You always have to read the FINE print with this guy i never saw a more dishonest SOB in my life.

No geographical limitations does not refer to the USA but to wherever we are engaged in combat operations with terrorist on foreign soil. It's poorly phrased and the reporter should have been more specific.

But leave it up to clowns that do zero research and like jumping to erroneous conclusions to do so.

Wow maxg, someone should have told you that it is 2013. Please get out of your mother's basement and get some mental health evaluations. This article is about using drones to take out anyone without proof, not droning on about the past.

Hank, I more then do my HOMEWORK with this snake that we call president. One thing is for sure you need to read into everything ALL the way with this two faced silver tongued rodent. There was a time when I thought Obama was a good guy with good intentions but WOW was I wrong. Why do you think Obama is having such a hard time with gun control? Oh just do a background check, WHY? Because he can't and never will be able to ban the guns he wants to ban so knowing 42% of people Experiance depression sometime in there lifetime. you heard that he wants doctors to ask if own guns? Like thats a medical question. Well that little bout of depression opens the door to take your guns. BACKDOOR OBAMA OH and no geographical limitations sounds pretty crystal clear to me.

Really? This is dangerous. One day you will be the drone's target.Get it?

Cris d

I am 100% for Obama drone strike policy, American-born or Naturalized American citizen leaves the United States and ""Coordinate attacks on the United States to kill U.S. citizen innocence "" from a nether country, (( that person is no longer a U.S. Citizen )). They are a combatant enemy of the United States.

And are their children also??- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/robert-gibbs-anwar-al-awlaki_n_2012438.html

And I'm a little confused (by more than just you near incomprehensible grammar), are you for this policy or not??? Because it makes it perfectly clear that you DO NOT have to be "Coordinate[sic] attacks on the United States to kill U.S. citizen innocence[sic]" in order to be targeted. You just have to join any group that is in any way remotely connected to Al-Qadea.

That's not such a bad idea, knock them out, put tracking chips in their body and let them go, hmmmm I really like that idea. wonder if it's being done?

Cris D i hear bye appoint you the new CIA chief.

chris

"I am 100% for Obama drone strike policy, American-born or Naturalized American citizen leaves the United States and ""Coordinate attacks on the United States to kill U.S. citizen innocence "" from a nether country, (( that person is no longer a U.S. Citizen )). They are a combatant enemy of the United States"

I agree. But there needs to be a process to prove guilt before we kill someone, if not then are we not the ones taking inoccent lives.

"""Kill them solve the problem"", and disappoint the lawyers. Save the millions of dollars in court costs and the cost of keeping them in high-security U.S. Prison."

How much value do you put on your life? I think that my life and yours is worth more than some paper.

If the gov't is made up of the people and by the people then shouldn't it be held to the standards of the law the same as you or i would be. If it is not then does its new standard of law also pertain to you and I.

There are numerous organizations that say horrible things about my race, that have committed horrible acts against us. Should we be able to then kill them and their children, because eventually they may attack us again? That sounds irrational even to me but My Government Can? Where does the other guy stop being the monster and we become it?

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No geographical limitations does not refer to the USA but to wherever we are engaged in combat operations with terrorist on foreign soil.

NDAA (Obama) and other previous Bush Era laws have legally defined the entire U.S. territory (our home) as a battle field. We're all fair game. If you think within a decade they won't be killing Americans with drones or snipers without trial on American soil, you're naive.

The CIA and Military do a lot of things you think they couldn't. Look up when they purposefully infected people to see the effects of weaponized forms of disease. They admit they spread the disease on purpose in order to test it on our own civilians without their knowledge, and pretended to be aid workers coming to help them, but instead just charted the results of the effects.

In 1956 and 1957, several U.S. Army biological warfare experiments were conducted on the cities of Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida. In the experiments, Army bio-warfare researchers released millions of infected mosquitoes on the two towns, in order to see if the insects could potentially spread yellow fever and dengue fever. Hundreds of residents contracted a wide array of illnesses, including fevers, respiratory problems, stillbirths, encephalitis, and typhoid. Army researchers pretended to be public health workers, so that they could photograph and perform medical tests on the victims. Several people died as a result of the experiments.^[10][46]

But by all means, trust the govt....fool.

No, it's not a conspiracy theory. Look it up. It's declassified fact. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just know history that the maonstream news won't tell you while they're busy sucking up to the govt.

In 1957, with funding from a CIA front organization, Dr. Ewan Cameron of the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal, Canada began MKULTRA Subproject 68.^[121] His experiments were designed to first "depattern" individuals, erasing their minds and memories—reducing them to the mental level of an infant—and then to "rebuild" their personality in a manner of his choosing.^[122] To achieve this, Cameron placed patients under his "care" into drug-induced comas for up to 88 days, and applied numerous high voltage electric shocks to them over the course of weeks or months, often administering up to 360 shocks per person. He would then perform what he called "psychic driving" experiments on the subjects, where he would repetitively play recorded statements, such as "You are a good wife and mother and people enjoy your company", through speakers he had implanted into blacked-out football helmets that he bound to the heads of the test subjects (for sensory deprivation purposes). The patients could do nothing but listen to these messages, played for 16–20 hours a day, for weeks at a time. In one case, Cameron forced a person to listen to a message non-stop for 101 days.^[122] Using CIA funding, Cameron converted the horse stables behind Allen Memorial into an elaborate isolation and sensory deprivation chamber which he kept patients locked in for weeks at a time.^[122] Cameron also induced insulin comas in his subjects by giving them large injections of insulin, twice a day for up to two months at a time.^[104]Several of the children who Cameron experimented on were sexually abused, in at least one case by several men. One of the children was filmed numerous times performing sexual acts with high-ranking federal government officials, in a scheme set up by Cameron and other MKULTRA researchers, to blackmail the officials to ensure further funding for the experiments.^[123]

Another of the MKULTRA subprojects, Operation Midnight Climax, consisted of a web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York which were established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses, where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances, including LSD, and monitored behind one-way glass. Several significant operational techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in field operations.^[120]

"... it was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape and pillage with the sanction and bidding of the All-highest?"

George Hunter White, who oversaw drug experiments for the CIA as part of Operation Midnight Climax.

In 1955, the CIA conducted a biological warfare experiment where they released whooping cough bacteria from boats outside of Tampa Bay, Florida, causing a whooping cough epidemic in the city, and killing at least 12 people.^[43][44][45]

From 1942 to 1944, the U.S. Chemical Warfare Service conducted experiments which exposed thousands of U.S. military personnel to mustard gas, in order to test the effectiveness of gas masks and protective clothing.^{[90][91][92][93]}

From 1950 through 1953, the U.S. Army sprayed toxic^{[citation needed]} chemicals over six cities in the United States and Canada, in order to test dispersal patterns of chemical weapons. Army records stated that the chemicals which were sprayed on the city of Winnipeg, Canada, included zinc cadmium sulfide.^[94]

From approximately 1951 to 1974, the Holmesburg State Prison in Pennsylvania was the site of extensive dermatological research operations, using prisoners as subjects. Led by Dr. Albert M. Kligman of the University of Pennsylvania, the studies were performed on behalf of Dow Chemical Company, the U.S. Army, and Johnson & Johnson.^[96][97][98] In one of the studies, for which Dow Chemical paid Kligman $10,000, Kligman injected dioxin — a highly toxic, carcinogenic compound found in Agent Orange, which Dow was manufacturing for use in Vietnam at the time — into 70 prisoners (most of them black). The prisoners developed severe lesions which went untreated for seven months.^[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Here is U.S. law (not what that corrupt clown in the AG's office currently, imagines):

On December 4, 1981, President Ronald Reagan issued Executive Order 12333 on “United States Intelligence Activities.” Section 2.11 of the order provides: “Prohibition on Assassination. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.” Section 2.12 of the order prohibits indirect participation in activities prohibited by the order, stating: “Indirect participation. No agency of the Intelligence Community shall participate in or request any person to undertake activities forbidden by this Order.” E.O. 12333 is still in force.

E.O. 12333 is the latest in a series of three executive orders which included assassination bans. The first, Executive Order 11905, Sec. 5(g),1 41 Fed. Reg. 7703, 7733 (President Gerald Ford, 2/19/76), was part of an executive order issued by President Ford in response to concerns raised in the 1970's with respect to alleged abuses by the U.S. intelligence community. A select committee chaired by Senator Frank Church (the Church Committee), in its interim report, addressed allegations of possible U.S. involvement in assassination plots against certain foreign leaders.

@ Just Slap Me

And if a drone strike would have shut down the assault on the embassy at Benghazi, what would this discussion be like?

It's sad when your blind devotion to this cult destroys your ability to rationalize correctly.

1) There were drones on station over Benghazi, ASAP after the W.H. was alerted. The interesting part is...they werent armed. The even more interesting thing is, in the time it takes to get a sub-sonic drone on station, you could get a sorti of supersonic fighters on station, armed for CAS.

2) In order to know an American attacker was near the embassy would imply prior knowledge of the attack and prior information on the attacker. If you had that prior knowledge, those intel sources could go to court and have him convicted of treason well before an attack.

3) The requirements to kill an America by indicting him and then going to court all go out the window when he/she starts attacking an embassy, because lethal force then becomes an option anyway. Just as lethal force is legal against American citizens, in the United States, actively attacking someone.

4) Number three becomes especially irrelevent when you consider we had no idea (assumption) who the people attacking our embassy were...and it doesnt matter as lethal force was authorized anyway.

Think before you type.

Voted best comment today,.

Your comment does not become even remotely close to being a fair arguement.

AKash, And yet they ALL swear to uphold the constitution. Obama is trying to tear apart the 2nd amendment everyday and now he's doing the same thing with the 4th amendment. with what there doing here Obama wants to do away with DUE PROCESS OF LAW. He can pick anybody he wants and if HE says they are a threat BANG there done. People do that everyday in the USA and they call them MURDERS. I guess Obama gets the FREE card?

Akash, this was a hearing, not a demonstration. If one wants to protest, there are places and times for that. To disrupt a scheduled hearing is in itself an affront to the First Amendment.

Also, please specify how a Senator is attacking the Second Amendment.

It is called Google. Do some research on John Brennan and his long time belief that " more government censorship is called for and that too much freedom is possible."

How about YOU do some research ?

His thesis was referring to Egypt in 1980 and that with freedom to speak out against the government, Egyptians would be more persecuted and lose more rights from their dictatorial regime, who was Sadat at the time.

I don't necessarily agree with his thesis after reading it, typical college crap. But the blogs you apparently like to read, to support your biases, left out a few details about his thesis,lol.

jeepers... Do you have your knickers in a twist? What biases might those be....? *smiles*

Allen, Who created "free speech zones". your not worried about the constitution, your worried that a black man is doing a better job then the white guy before him lol

fielden

Akash, this was a hearing, not a demonstration. If one wants to protest, there are places and times for that. To disrupt a scheduled hearing is in itself an affront to the First Amendment.

Also, please specify how a Senator is attacking the Second Amendment.

DIANE FEINSTEIN (California Senator, author of "Feinstein Amendment"
which became the ’94 gun ban): "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of
the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them… ‘Mr. and
Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it." (60 Minutes episode, CBS)
[Sen Feinstein holds a CCP]

george, he's certainly NOT doing a better job than the white guy. Leave it up to the libs to ALWAYS throw in the race card. The economy sucks.....when are you libs going to face reality?

Well Shelton, obviously you are not one to believe in the slippery slope. What once may have been done secretly now being done in the open and excused? How far is it from them simplye using the drones they are passing out here to kill the FBI most wanted? Then where do we go from there? Put this with trying to take our guns (any that would be useful against a communist take over), and all the other unconstitutional acts of this administration and if you don't see danger you need to take off the blinders.

We already had a ban on the sale of assault rifles, did anyone take yours? NO.

So please do explain your fear of losing your guns to the gubmint. You know, the same gubmint you think is going to send its army to take away your guns. That same gubmint that you fear will take your guns, but that you think absolutely can't have its defense department budget cut. You know, that same gubmint and defense department with the army that's coming to take your guns.

And by the way, whose liberty is being assaulted more? The kids at Sandy Hook who lost their pursuit of life, or your 'potential' loss of losing your right to bear an assault rifle? Keep in mind you still do and will be able to own a gun. Those kids, not so much.

Stay on target... did anyone even mention bans or weapons, settle down... and stay on the subject...

(Shaking my head) You have to be joking right. The government
of the US is going to start dropping hellfire missiles in your town to take out
a common run of the mill crook/killer. If the crook is in your town would it
not be more cost effective to use a SWAT team.

We are talking about traitor’s people in a time of war. Who
would gladly kill you children if front of you to make sure they go their form
of heaven. But according to you we cannot do anything about that until they are
acutely pulling the beating heart of your children out just because they have a
US passport.

JustSlapMe

We already had a ban on the sale of assault rifles, did anyone take yours? NO.

So please do explain your fear of losing your guns to the gubmint.

Well in NY they just decided you've got a month or two to get rid of all of your high cap magazines. Bet people never thought the "gubmint" would be able to do that either.

And of course removing peoples ability to aquire something certainly "takes away" the right of future generations to have them.

timothy clark -- so your okay with our government deciding if you are an evil target as an American or not – at home or abroad, based on their sole discretion, and you're okay with them being the judge, jury, and executioner without Due Process?

How do they base their decision to off you, color, religion, race... your boss doesn’t like you so you are an instant threat; again based on what biases, facts or criteria? Did you know that drones are flying in the USA currently? Proof you ask... look it up on the WEB, several Sherriff’s depts. are using /testing them now right here at home, yes, right here at home...

Your comment seems very uneducated, but mostly inconceivable.

Just a thought wote:

Stay on target... did anyone even mention bans or weapons, settle down... and stay on the subject...

I agree. There ought to be an additional category that we could report an item as in addition to "No Value", "Inflammatory" and "Advertising"; namely "Irrelevant", to be used for posts having no relation to the subject of the original article.

someotherguy-1373018

I agree. There ought to be an additional category that we could report an item as in addition to "No Value", "Inflammatory" and "Advertising"; namely "Irrelevant", to be used for posts having no relation to the subject of the original article.

How does "irrelevant" differ from "no value"?

Who is going to decide....the speech police.

Terrorist happened you @!$%#ing idiot! Kill them ALL!!!

Seek Immediate Help HobieSon

Yes HobieSun,

Terrorists did happen, but we were accused of being to mean to them by water boarding for information. The terrorists are still out there and growing stronger by the day after the so called "arab spring" and what is our administration doing about it??

Letting them kill our ambassedor and giving them (the muslim brotherhood) F16 fighter and our best tankis while trying to disarm our population. Think what this points toward!!

For one thing, they're taking terrorists out with drone strikes instead of putting troops on the ground.

Funny, you're against that but for ineffective water boarding.

Talk about a post that is nothing but deflection, you win the prize.

How many innocents will be killed, as collateral damage, to justify protecting our right to own an assault rifle?

Again, stay on target, no one said anything about assault weapons but you, simma down... we're talking about drones k.

Who gave the 9/11 victims due process? If you are an American who travel to another country and take up arms against your country than you no longer are an American to me and you need to be treated like any other terrorist.

Hank-1921206

For one thing, they're taking terrorists out with drone strikes instead of putting troops on the ground.

Funny, you're against that but for ineffective water boarding.

As per the article which you apparently did not read-

"...ex-CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden said interrogating al Qaida operatives is a vital source of insight into the terrorists’ plans and capabilities:

But he warned, “We have made it so legally difficult and so politically dangerous to capture that it seems, from the outside looking in, that the default option is to take the terrorists off the battlefield in another sort of way” – in other words, by killing them.

At the event former CIA legal counsel John Rizzo said, “It’s always been in the agency’s institutional DNA to want to collect intelligence by all sorts of means, especially human intelligence. You can’t collect human intelligence from a dead guy.”"

Talk about a post that is nothing but deflection, you win the prize.

So I guess you're stuck with 2nd place.

Yeah, backcountry, cuz you can only do one thing at a time. Either kill terrorists with drones or capture and interrogate them.

No way could our military or intelligence operatives be able to do both, depending on the situation.

Another example of false choices.

Hank-1921206

Yeah, backcountry, cuz you can only do one thing at a time. Either kill terrorists with drones or capture and interrogate them.

When in the past 4 years has our military made any effort to capture a single terrorist?? Aside from that I really have no clue exactly what your point is?

You didn't notice any arrests of terrorists on US soil over the past 4 years ? Maybe if you actually followed current events instead of reading blogs, it would help?

How did those prisons get filled in Iraq and Afghanistan with terrorists ? By accident ?

Of course, we should send troops into other countries that don't want us there to capture terrorists to satisfy you, I know.

The only problem with the original post is the part about not having the opportunity to prove ourselves innocent.

We are innocent until the government proves beyond any reasonable doubt that we are guilty. It is the burden of the prosecution to prove guilt, NOT the burden of the accused to prove their innocence.

Hank-1921206

You didn't notice any arrests of terrorists on US soil over the past 4 years ? Maybe if you actually followed current events instead of reading blogs, it would help?

US soil?? WTF are you talking about?? Since when have there been any senior members of Al-Qadea on US soil?? And since when has our military arrested anyone on US soil? Maybe if you would stick to the topic instead of trying to deflect it would help you to not sound so ignorant.

How did those prisons get filled in Iraq and Afghanistan with terrorists ? By accident ?

LAST 4 YEARS. Hopefully the caps and bold will allow you to anwser the question that I actually asked.

Of course, we should send troops into other countries that don't want us there to capture terrorists to satisfy you, I know.

Satisfy me?? Allow me to quote the article once again since you seem to have memory issues-

"...ex-CIA director Gen. Michael Hayden said interrogating al Qaida operatives is a vital source of insight into the terrorists’ plans and capabilities:

But he warned, “We have made it so legally difficult and so politically dangerous to capture that it seems, from the outside looking in, that the default option is to take the terrorists off the battlefield in another sort of way” – in other words, by killing them.

At the event former CIA legal counsel John Rizzo said, “It’s always been in the agency’s institutional DNA to want to collect intelligence by all sorts of means, especially human intelligence. You can’t collect human intelligence from a dead guy.”"

How about satisfying leaders in the intelligence community.

A people who give their government the power to 'kill at will' are a people who have relinquished their power to stop it.

Soldiers Dad - You are the smartest guy in the room.

Soldiers dad.......

There lies the crux of the problem.......the great legal minds hidden in the back rooms of an anonymous building make policy by re-interpretation of the Constitution to suit the immediate needs of politicians dealing with difficult problems. I am convinced that expediency will trump liberty every time under those circumstances. They now claim an exercise like a legal proceeding is no longer necessary, only the suspicions of someone trusted to make those types of decisions. Technically it's the President, but I doubt he'll do more than ask "are you sure? ......OK then, go ahead with it.", then go back to munching on potato chips or whatever. By President, I do not mean specifically President Obama.....could be any of the ones yet to come.

The obstructionists McConnell and Boehner have nothing to answer for?

Oh yeah, the blame game. If this prez is so freely signing exec orders can't job creation be one of them? Of course it could....if you had an idea about how to create one. 4 years and only 2 jobs created, both hired at the food stamp card makers company.......

Your proctologist called ..has found your LIBERAL..."obstruction"

The innocent are there because the target hides behind them.
These evil men hold meting and live with their family in the belief that we
will not attack them. They travel in convoys of their children so that we will
not know which truck they are in. They cross the border to raid the troops and then
run back to live with their family as if nothing has happened.

How about all the DemoCRAPS that think the next best thing since sliced bread it BIG Government, tyranny and the NWO. I happen to like being a free citizen and we are FAST moving to the point where progressives don't even have to blink before taking our rights away.

Obama’s drone policy – directed largely by Brennan in his role as Obama’s counter-terrorism adviser has drawn criticism both from progressives on the left and from people on the right who are fearful of an excessive concentration of power in the presidency.

What outfits should the democrats who criticise the drone program wear for their trip to Yemen?

Sicktired Lan

Can someone explain this why republicons are criticizing drone killings of suspected guerillas?

Sure, it's called the Constitution. Duh

I'm not sure which is sadder, the fact that you didn't know or the fact that'd you'd actually admit it.

The GOP Regressives are just mad they didn't think of it first.

Sure, it's called the Constitution

Republicons? Constitution?

republicons and constitution is as close as Gov Christie is to a gym.

Sicktired Lan

republicons and constitution is as close as Gov Christie is to a gym.

And you've decided not to give any examples because...? Just lazy or are you talking out of your ass?

Jony: You actually believe a drone is going to fly above your street and take out some neighbor's home? Get real guy and stop your biases from running away with your common sense. I suspect it is you who really needs to "Wake Up" and stop trying for irrational emotional hype.

That's what the people said about Hitler. People like you will be the first ones taken out by the current infiltrators. If you think you're safe in America, think again. AMERICA HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY FOREIGN INTERESTS.

RGiles: You actually believe a drone is NOT going to fly above your street and take out some neighbor's home? GET REAL!

Where do you live , tommygun?

Pakistan ?

Jony Jee and Tommy Gunn, you guys should get together, and start digging yourself one of those prepper bunkers. You shouldn't fear the US government "droning" law abiding US citizens homes. Of course if they are anti American subversives, millitants, and themselves advocating killing citizens, blowing up stuff, or overthrowing our government. Then, FK-em.. of course they should be executed.. Drone thier freekin cabin in Utah, or Idaho, or wherever they form thier little terrorist cells. Saves time and energy. Why put ATF, FBI, local and state law enforcement agents in danger, when you can fly over with a unmanned aircraft, and vaporize the puke? Gotta Love a drone!! they are like ATMs, they give you what you need, and don't talk back..

You're completely delusional. Drones ARE the terrorists. THERE ARE NO AMERICAN TERRORISTS. The terrorists are the people who will be piloting the drones. The military and gov are terrorists. THEY are the ones who are killing people, not the average American who are only trying to defend themselves.

Apparently Jony lives in Pakistan too.

RGiles

Jony: You actually believe a drone is going to fly above your street and take out some neighbor's home?

Exactly! Like the government would ever even consider allowing drones to be used in US airspace...oh...wait.

Funny how things we never thought would happen actually do

Shawn D, thanks for your suggestions. Here's mine. Why don't you just sit around and wait till your gov't f**** you in the a** because you are too much of a coward to say or do something to oppose it. You are welcoming fascism with arms wide open and eyes wide shut.

I agree w/ the current Drone usage.

So whaddya gonna do about it ?

Stamp your little feet and hold your immature child-like breath ?

RGILES.....did the Germans, in the beginning, actually think Hitler would do the atrocities he did to the Jews, the Polish, the Gypsys? Evil has a way of creeping in ever so slowly and before you know it your in hell and you are a part of it. I suggest you WAKE UP!

the republican party did exactly the same with Iraq.. thousands of soldiers lost their lives, it cost the taxpayers billions, and the likes of John Mccain wants more in Iran.. as do many of the warhawk republicans.. I say do what you want to do republicans but fund it with YOUR OWN money

See, your starting to get it Aliblahblah. (just don't let the boss know here you live)

He may just have a drone set aside to take out some left over, stupid ass Romney voters! HAAAAA.. Fkn loser.

The Us House of Representatives and the US Senate voted on HJRes 114.

It was passed by 70% of House and Senate. (Bi-partisan)

House count 296 ayes - 133 nays

Senate count 77 ayes (including Biden) - 23 nays

maxgiver

the republican party did exactly the same with Iraq..

Please do explain how the Constitution was violated in Iraq??

Backcountry,

Please explain where his post or the one before it were referencing any Constitutional violations?

Hank-1921206

Backcountry,

Please explain where his post or the one before it were referencing any Constitutional violations?

First sentence in this thread- "NO FUSS..NO MUSS..No LONG Drawn Out... CONSTITUTION" Please note the 9th word.

Is there anything else you need read to you??

Jane Doe, Someone that can remember why we went into Iraq. Thank you.

Drones are not here to "defend" the USA. THEY ARE KILLING MACHINES. Wake up you damn idiot. There are not ANY "terrorists" in the USA. The only terrorist are the people putting the those drones in the air. DRONES ARE TERROR MACHINES.

what if I'm in a Taxi..?

That's called bad luck

Otterly ignorant statements! Terrorist country? Haha, what a moron!

Brian, We have to make it look like an accident like the government does. we could start with Feinstein and throw her out in traffic on a California freeway it would cause a big wreck with everybody putting it in reverse to make sure they got her.

If you or your family are hanging out with known terrorists in combat zones then you deserve to get droned.

Sayonara.

Joey, It was never about magazines or banning assault rifles Obama Just plain wants to take your guns period. I think people will start seeing just why we need guns before Obama is out of office.

The last resort... on a list with only (2) items.

"Everybody Must Get Droned"

Al-Qaeda IS the USA. Just Google "who created al-qaeda". The proof is everywhere. Drones are terrorist weapons and now they will be given a license to kill Americans !!!

Watch your ass Jony Jee, drones like to go after fools on FaceFuk..

They will "friend" you, when you least expect it.

That sounds like a threat. You sound like a terrorist to me. See, that's why you want drones so badly. Because deep down you're a control freak killer. You just proved it.

Good one Jony. These fools can't see past their own bubbles.

These Terrorists wantonly killed more than 3000 innocent Americans on 9/11....... anybody who protest the destruction of those that would not hesitate to keep innocent people is guilty by proxy. Drones targeted killing involve collateral because these 'chickens' hide under their family beds while the children and wives are sleeping on the beds.