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Subscribe to RSSUpdated 3:30 p.m. ET - Senate Republicans pressed for more answers Thursday on what led to the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi – with their focus squarely on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who will testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee next month.
At a committee hearing Thursday, Sen. Marco Rubio, R- Fla., a potential 2016 presidential contender, said it was “puzzling” that the report from the Accountability Review Board Clinton appointed to investigate the attack places blame only on lower-level officials for giving insufficient attention to the security risks in Benghazi.
In the attack Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, and Sean Smith, were killed.
Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski and former Rep. Jane Harman talk about the attack on the U.S. consulate and why the host country needs to protect the United States' diplomats. They also debate how the U.S. can fix the security in these embassies. The panel then turns the conversation to the campaign to discredit Sen. Chuck Hagel as a potential pick for Defense Secretary.
“There’s a lot of questions to be answered, including some that only Secretary Clinton can answer,” Rubio told NBC News after he left the hearing. “We need to know beyond the assistant secretary level -- where the report places most of the blame -- what did these senior officials know after the repeated meetings (with the Libyan prime minster and other Libyan officials). Libya was not some remote outpost somewhere… It was a place that the U.S. was heavily engaged in militarily.”
He said the possibility that the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi did not come up in meetings between Clinton and the Libyan officials or in meetings between other State Department officials and the Libyans “is deeply troubling to me.”
Eric Boswell, the assistant secretary of state for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security has resigned and three other officials have been relieved of duty, the department said late Wednesday.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said "accountability has been brought to bear with regard to four individuals who are very senior” at the State Department. But he added, “they're not taking the fall" for the attack.
Clinton has been out of the public eye for several days due to illness and a concussion she suffered after fainting.
Substituting for Clinton in testimony before the committee Thursday was Deputy Secretary of State William Burns.
“All of you who know Hillary know that she would rather be here today,” said committee chairman Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who is likely to be President Barack Obama’s nominee to replace Clinton. “I assure you it is not her choice she is not here today and she looks forward to appearing before the committee in January. I want to make that clear.”
At a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on the Benghazi attack Thursday afternoon, Chairwoman Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Fla., said Clinton “has every intention of testifying before our committee by mid-January as soon as she gets the go-ahead from her doctor.”
And Ros-Lehtinen said the State Department’s claim that Congress had not provided sufficient funding was not persuasive. “Perhaps it should take a closer look at the (State Department) money that is being lavished on global climate change, a culinary diplomacy program, and other favored projects,” she said. “This money could have been used for providing diplomatic security…..”
Ros-Lehtinen said that the State Department was spending nearly $1 billion on global climate change programs. And she said that just the day before the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Clinton was “engaged in launching a new program called the Diplomatic Culinary Partnership, where Americans chefs will travel the world to engage in ‘culinary diplomacy.’ Certainly this is an example of misplaced priorities.”
Burns told the committees that report by the Accountability Review Board (ARB) “takes a clear-eyed look at serious, systemic problems. Problems which are unacceptable. Problems for which – as Secretary Clinton has said -- we take responsibility.”
He said told the State Department has “already begun to fix” the security lapses that allowed the Benghazi attack to succeed.
On Tuesday the ARB report blamed State Department officials for “systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies” that led to the protection for the Benghazi facility that was “grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.”
Kerry said that “the report pulls no punches.” He said that “clearly mistakes were made” and that “there were clear warning signs” that the US facility in Benghazi was in danger in the weeks leading up to the attack.
“We get this right about 99 percent of the time,” Deputy Secretary of State Thomas Nides told the committee. “We would like to be at 100 percent.”
Kerry said that for years the Congress had underfunded the State Department and noted that the international affairs budget is less than one-tenth that of the Defense Department.
Kerry noted that the ARB report calls for spending $2.3 billion a year for 10 years to protect State Department personnel overseas.
But Sen. Bob Corker, R- Tenn., slated to be the senior Republican on the panel in 2013, vigorously dissented from that view. He told the hearing “he was “dismayed that this hearing has already focused on the need for additional money, which may well be needed,” but since the committee had not done a thorough review of how the State Department spends its approximately $50 billion in annual funding, “we have no idea whether the State Department is using its money wisely or not.”
He also asked why Clinton had not asked Congress before the attack to allow her to re-allocate State Department funding to ensure the Benghazi facility was secure.
He added later that there was a 16-person Defense Department security team in Libya who could have been shifted from Tripoli to Benghazi – and at no cost to the State Department other than lodging. “This has nothing to do with money,” he said.
Kerry said that American diplomats need to engage personally with the people in the nations where they are stationed, especially in the Middle East. “We have to be on the ground, outside the wire, reaching out to those people,” he said.
“Bad things have happened before and bad things will happen again unfortunately in the future,” he said. “We do not want to concertina-wire America off from the world.”
Rubio told NBC News that there was larger lesson in the Benghazi attack: “One of the factors that led to the Sept. 11 attack was “the inability of the Libyan central government to have any control over militias” and that, he argued, was “a direct result of a policy decision made to ‘lead from behind.’”
He said the Obama administration got engaged “too late” and “not decisively enough” in Libya. “The reason why there are all these multiple militias in Libya is because this was a protracted conflict that created the opportunity and the space for these militias to form – similar to what we’re seeing now in Syria.”
If the United States had gotten decisively engaged in Libya, Rubio contended, the conflict “would have ended a lot sooner and the opportunity for these militias to form would have been diminished.”
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The first thing Mrs. Clinton should do is testify. The second thing she should do is resign!
If the GOP House majority had voted to cut security for all US embassies, it should not be such a shock that Benghazi tragedy happened. Condolences to those who sacrificed their lives
The cover-up continues...is it not enough that the msm obvious lack of coverage was purely political, can it continue for another four years to keep the blinders on the sheep for her election too?
Pig.....WRONG. That was a Bi-Partisan vote, and it sure as hell did not stop the State Department from DENYING SECURITY for the Benghazi station. Neither did it stop the State Department from spending BILLIONS on erecting a PALACE in Iraq for the Consulate there. Hint: You are anti EVERYTHING that doesn't have a Democrat or Liberal slant to it. Piggish Behaviour becomes you.
Pigotry, the GOP House did not deny the calls for more security and immediate assistance from our men over there, the current administration did. They had several hours to respond but instead, just sat back and watched.
They knew they were wrong. Thats why they came up with a lame excuse of a film and kept repeating it, didn't report the real story for almost a month and is the real reason Hillary is not testifying. Now that the election is over they will try to get away with everything. Simply the worst administration the US has ever had.
Good start in fixing security problems is to remove McCain, Graham & Ayotte from the house of Tea Insanity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Now" !!!
Patriotic.....take your meds.
Patriotic....I bet when you watched the movie Pearl Harbor, you were pulling for the Japs!
This looks more like a setup - not a coverup, GOP cuts security to our Embassies then blames the Dem's, this is Hogwash !!!!!!!!
GOPigs are up to their old tricks, vote these Loonies out and save a Nation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sow I agree with you but would also like to add.......and the worst administration we will ever have, God I pray.
Benghazi report looks like Rice had nothing to do with anything, McCain, Graham & Ayotte should have waited for the report before they started tearing someone apart, how stupid of them !!!!!!!
Patriotic... I can't take it any more...you keep calling GOP pigs...but as a real pig, I don't recall any GOP cousins.
Pigs are smart
GOP is NOT
But I still voted you up. See??? I am a real pig.
There were 53 embassy deaths under the Bush, and 4 under Obama.
Who has done a better job with security?
Funny there wasn't any outrage at all the deaths under Bush, yet they are calling Obama's head.
Republicans need to get a grip and fund security of embassies overseas.
GOP are Coffin Outfitters, Blood & Wars - killing our Children so the 1% make their profits !!!!!!!
“systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies”
Pretty much sums up the almighty bho's tenure as president. And "eric", honestly? You idiotic liberals are STILL playing the "Bush" card? When exactly is the almighty bho going to take some RESPONSIBILITY for his administration? It hasn't happened yet, and I seriouly doubt that it ever will. He is an irresponsibile man-child that is in way over his head.
Obama did, Bush never did. Republicans never take responsibility.
In this crisis for example, the Republicans have taken no responsibility for cutting funding for security overseas.
the third thing she should do is get a face transplant.
I agree, Romney's wife needs a face transplant.
Why is it that someone has to die before the State Dept can fix its security? Isn't someone in charge with the competency to recognize they have a problem? This Dept is also responsible for many contract screw ups in both Iraq and Afghanistan, time to clean house.
Eric, She needs more than a face transplant !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - ???
Mrs. Clinton can't testify. She fainted and now can't remember anything due to a concussion.
can we get that old battle-axe a helmet and one of those im too fat to walk scooters they have at walmart? maybe then she can testify.
Pigotry
If the GOP House majority had voted to cut security for all US embassies, it should not be such a shock that Benghazi tragedy happened. Condolences to those who sacrificed their lives
You do know that more dems voted FOR the cut than republicans did don’t you, check it out, funny how it is the republicans fault when they did not do all the voting to cut it.
Wildcard, "When Pigs Fly" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, Patriotic:
pigs can fly...in a cop-ter... heli-cop-ter, that is.
"Born to Fly" Pigotry is a ham, Salute !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will the rest of you please take it easy on Piggy and the Patriotic Leftwing America. Coincidentally, both of them fell down and suffered concussions, and it's affecting their ability to recognize whose obvious fault the Benghazi slaughter is.
Having just read the minute by minute account of the full attack I see no shortcoming by the state department. All reasonable resources were brought to bear as the escalation slowly increased over hours.
Mr. Stevens died do to smoke inhalation as he did not follow others during the escape. The GOP is upto their usual reckless deceptive grandstanding.
eric913730 please provide the links for your post 1.12.
Elephants are smarter than pigs, they're on the 3 place after apes and dolphins! LOL
Eric-913730
I too would like to see this proof. I did some searching and now want to see how you came up with this.
Or are you one of those DEMs that post lies and run...
I am sure you are a runner..
Maybe having a First Lady as our Secretary of State wasn't such a good idea....?
Who will our next Secretary of State be -- Betty Ford??
I remember several intelligence agencies reports about Osama's plans to attack the US interests that came up in front of high level Bush administration officials including him and the Repugnicans were not too harsh on them; that event cost more lives and brought a huge security issue for our nation, than this Benghazi attack which occurred in an Islamic nation in chaos after a civil war. I think this is more of the same Tea Party witch hunt to discredit Hillary and harm her political future if she decides to run for president.
Ok, its been weeks now since this has happened. I've read some of the articles, avoided many since they seem full of BS and light on facts, and I'm aware of all the back and forth, finger pointing, and political grandstanding that is going on, but I'm still unclear here? What is the end game in all of this? Monday morning quarterbacking aside what are we trying to accomplish here? I get the understanding wanting to know where the breakdowns occurred so we don't repeat them (even though we -our gov- don't seem to always learn very well or moreover do prefer to be reactive than proactive) but beyond that, what really is the end game??? To me it seems its all a political issue more than anything with little regard for those that were killed. Someone please explain! And I say this not giving two flips about either party.
It is time
Hey, republicans - you all can just WAIT until you do your goddamn jobs and take care of the fiscal cliff without taking us over the way you did last year.
I'm amazed that so many people are still referring to "a budget cut in security funding" when the woman in charge of embassy and consulate security world-wide testified under oath before congress that there was no budget issue regarding Benghazi - that Hillary Clinton had ordered security at Benghazi be kept artificially low. This after 48 security incidents in 60 days, including 2 bombings. And the closure, for security reasons, of almost all other consulates and the Red Cross.
Hey
Hiliary wasnt the one to cut the security budget the house was. She was out doing her job negotiating and talking to officials throughout the world trying to keep us together. She cant be 6 places at once. All your phoney bellowing isnt going to bring these poor people back. Admit it..your cheap arsses are to blame because you wanted to keep your tax cuts at the expense of our diplomats over seas. Quit passing the buck and stop wasting our tax payer dollars and get your butts back to work doing what you were elected to do instead of setting up these phoney hearings where you can beat up others in an attempt to draw the attention off who is the real ones to blame...yourselves. I am sick and tired of your eternal stalling ..do your job doing the business of the people or get out! You were elected to do the business of the country and the people not go on these stupid witch hunts..at our expense.
I see Marco Rubio has already started his 2016 campaign.
Wasn't the GOP complaining that President Obama was acting in Libya without approval from Congress.
What a bunch of hypocrites.
The GOP just make me sick.
PLEASE, get rid of the filibuster and remove them from any power next election.
It wasn't even an embassy - it was a CIA outpost.
dirp
And Barry hasn't stopped campaigning since 2008!Thank goodness AF1 doesn't provide frequent flier miles!
BUT leaves out NAMES of those responsible for the State Department's "MISTAKES".
Yep, Kerry is going to fit well as the new Secretary of State.
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The Progressives had to insert comments about potential Republicans running in 2016. Makes me want to P**E. Here comes the ANTI- (you can put in the name) comments. Drip, drip, drip.
Hello Republicans you scandel mongering old Neo-nazi, racist,hags,
You spend all your time trying to create smoking guns and all you get is fizzle. This is such old news that nobody cares anymore. Mistakes are made and we learn from them and move on. Done. For just once in the next four years why don't you just try doing what you're being paid to do and pass some legislation (something you failed to do for the entire previous 4 years). You just keep making asses out of yourselves. You are not the Attorney General. Quit trying to do his job and try doing your own. It'd make a nice change of pace. The only better change of pace will come in two years when your majority becomes the minority. Try working FOR America for once instead of Against it.
Dmb reply Charlie...this is not a football game, no matter what the Dems are making it. Truth is that Hillary could have won by a landslide (not 51%) 4 years ago, instead we now have the most ineffectifve President in history.
Mrs. Clinton's doctor will report she has a severe case of Obama-amnesia.
And the same doctor will report that all Progressives are a detriment to American society since they continually work against the Middle Class, and ALL Americans in general.
BTW: Mrs. Clinton is a no-go for ANY Presidential contention in 2012.....TOO MUCH BAGGAGE and skeletons in the closet.
Oh my, ldo, you grossly underestimate the stupidity of the progressive mind......they make lemmings look downright independent.
I can't fathom this rehtoric!!! The majority of facts have leaked like a sive since the managerie of attempts to deflect responsiblity on this matter were trying to be made. Bottom line on this matter; IMHO, lay firmly on the shoulders of the Leadership of the State Department and EXECUTIVE OFFICE!!!! Poor choices, an affirmation of denial and the resulting DEATH are the end results. I prefer not to listen to the never ending blame-shifting at lower levels when an IMMEDIATE RESPONSE was available; and yet, THOSE IN POWER and POSITION CHOSE NOT TO SEND HELP as THEY WATCHED IT UNFOLD LIVE!!!! Being a retired Army 1SG (27 yrs) and in my 26th year of service in Law Enforcment, I am appauled at what this administration is doing under the noses of the SHEEPLES!!!
OMG! How stupid does he think we are? Ever hear of VIDEO TESTIMONY John?? If she WANTED to be there, she WOULD have! She doesnt want to add perjury to her crimes.
The DNC is NOTORIOUS for misplaced priorities and WASTEFUL spending!!!
Her appearance of mid January will never come to pass. The promise is to merely appease the Senate Foreign Relations Committee...........for the time being.
I'm gonna say right now that Mrs. Clinton running for president in 2012 is an impossibility...absent a time machine...
You don't have a clue!!! If security personnel were so limited, why were there 15,000 in Iraq/Afghanistan or a brigade in the high risk area of Paris? In Government or business, you never have all the personnel you would like, but you assign them to high risk areas. Libya was clearly a high risk area and the Obama administration simply ignored that fact. Read the report and not just what MSNBC, ThinkProgress, and the rest of your liberal sources talk about. Get the facts before you write.
The unfortunate thing is after a concussion there's usually a side effect know as "Sgt. Shultz" syndrome...."I know nothing".....I'm sure she'll will be afflicted with this as well.....It usually manifests itself as "I don't recall"......
This whole thing stinks...and it isn't going away....sooner or later someone that can't be intimidated or bought will come forward....And the Empty Suit will be seen for what he is.......He's running out of people to throw under the bus.....
If only "Bullsh^t was gold! Oh hell!, then the republicans wouldn't ever strew an ounce. It isn't though, and they are committed to slinging It all over the land. Didn't get engaged with Libya soon enough! What a Gwaddamned hypocrit!
The GOP House did not deny the calls for more security and immediate assistance from our men over there, the current administration did. They had several hours to respond but instead, just sat back and watched.
No, they just cut funding for embassy security a few times, that's all -shrug- Now they're shocked! Shocked, I tell you! How could security fail when all we did was cut funding? As for that B.S. like about anyone watching the attacks, you kooks are too much. Nobody "watched."
"Truth is that Hillary could have won by a landslide (not 51%) 4 years ago,"
Give 'em the middle finger, madame Secretary. They don't deserve any consideration and you don't have to oblige.
Patriotic American U.S.A.
Wildcard, "When Pigs Fly" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t you just love it when someone spouts off before they check their facts, I do!
House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings. In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security-funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz2FkPayv1D
Dems for embassy security cuts now blame GOP
http://times247.com/articles/dems-ding-gop-for-libya-funds-cut-it-themselves#ixzz2FkQApWl2
Dems accuse GOP of cutting security funding in Libya despite majority Dem support for vote: Wed, Oct 10, 2012
House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding — cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings. In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.
http://news.yahoo.com/dems-accuse-gop-cutting-security-funding-libya-despite-175935895.html
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams (Dec. 1770)
So why isn't Hilary the one saying this?? I'm sorry, but there is something fishy in regards to her "fainting" and having a "concussion"...So bonking your head renders you unable to testify or report on anything?? I call BS....
There were 53 embassy deaths under the Bush, and 4 under Obama.
Who has done a better job with security?
Funny there wasn't any outrage at all the deaths under Bush, yet they are calling Obama's head.
Republicans need to get a grip and fund security of embassies overseas.
"Copy-and-Paste-eric", keep spouting your idiocy. As if it wasn't apparent enough...
Look it up for yourself Dan......truth hurts doesn't it.
Rob, how did you get that info, Overdose of Sean Hannity's crap - Fox is for Loonies and we all know you are not one of them ???????????????????????????????????
Uh...What info PAU?? That she fainted and got a concussion?? Do you live under a rock?? And I guess you missed the part where I said I don't like or watch FoxNews....Now Fox I'll watch because I really like Sunday Football and the Tuesday comedy line-up....
And Eric, 1 death is too many...But you like to keep score don't you??
Eric #2.1, Right on-53 dead under "Bush" and nothing was said, the good old boys way or the highway, is that how it works ??????????????????????????????????
If there were 53 dead, why didn't ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, or any of the other right-hating, left-leaning groups have a major expose' on this ?....
Thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.
Eric / Patriot:
HOW MANY DID BUSH blame on a InterNet video? How many ask'd the Bush adminstration for additional security and were Denied?
@"eric", Benghazi did not, I repeat DID NOT happen during the Bush presidency. And I don't recall Bush parading his ambassador to the U.N. around blaming a poorly shot, and amature video. You may not like the man, but at least Bush had the b@lls to call these animals for what they truly are, and that word is TERRORIST. But do please keep spouting your empty arguments, as that I'm sure that many on here find it at least mildly amusing.
No he paraded his sec. around spouting WMD. And when none was found were you on here causing the hate you are now? I think not.
Eric-913730
I too would like to see this proof. I did some searching and now want to see how you came up with this.
Or are you one of those DEMs that post lies and run...
I am sure you are a runner..
this is nothing more than a pretended outrage by the GOP, they will look stupid once the final answer comes out. (state dept needs more money for security)
Karl....I forget...Who controls the funding??
so who controlled the funding when Bush was President. I suspect that it was the democratic house and senate. Hilary is to blame just as bush was to blame for those deaths. And as commander and chief Obama is the end of the line for responsibility. I think Hilary quitting before the job is done is more like Palin quitting on alaska. But its ok if Hilary does it. This fainting crap is BS. thats like allowing Oliver North to blame Direcory Casey who was dead and couldn't deny it.
Four honorable people killed. Four honorable people sacrificed to cover up the ineptitude of the POTUS and the administration! Nixon resigned over Watergate. Obama should do the same over Benghazi-gate!
As usual the right wing nut job crowd is all over this story AGAIN
Yo Tony D your comparison is a typical idiotic response.
Obama can't know everything, however Nixon did know about the break in and tried to cover it up.
Try mustering up a few more brain cells to actually sound sensible.
PAU - How often do you have to replace the punctuation keys on your keyboard? Do you get a discount with your tourette syndrome?
John Bayner - Wow looks like you were able to summon a couple of brain cells as well after the Robert Bork passing to bust out a Richard Nixon reference to Benghazi. Impressive.
There is nothing to fix, you have to replace the parts that don't work, like the Clinton, the holder, the Obama, the rice, the axelrod all these parts are not going to do work in the system that we have. They might work in another system say a socialist system, or they might work in a Marxist system, but not in a American system.
There were 53 embassy deaths under the Bush, and 4 under Obama.
Who has done a better job with security?
Funny there wasn't any outrage at all the deaths under Bush, yet they are calling Obama's head.
Republicans need to get a grip and fund security of embassies overseas.
"But...but...but...just look at what happened during the Bush presidency!", said the almighty bho and his ardent, if not idiotic, followers. Guess what genius, Bush hasn't been president for almost FIVE years! You silly liberals really need to find another "boogyman", your arguement is tiresome...
Nope, a comparison is a comparison.
Bush deaths at Embassies: 53
Obama: 4
Who is doing a better job?
Another liberal "spin-class"....thought I was done with that when I left the gym this morning
Republicons never took responsibility getting us into this depression, terrible what "W" did, now we are trying to move on but the Tea Loonies are blocking everything, pigheaded crazy hogger's !!!
Eric / Patriot:
HOW MANY DID BUSH blame on a InterNet video? How many ask'd the Bush adminstration for additional security and were Denied?
@Slinger:
How many has died and been maimed from the lies of WMD? And because he was GOP a$$ hole he gets a free ride?
Eric-913730
I too would like to see this proof. I did some searching and now want to see how you came up with this.
Or are you one of those DEMs that post lies and run...
I am sure you are a runner..
Eric-913730
Waiting..
12 attacks under bush no deaths............
This is what I find all over the net. If you have a link I would like to see.
Or wait all post I see from you is BUSH BUSH BUSH and you run away. Please I think you and pigotry would make a good couple.
Spread lies with no proof.... The true Dem way I guess....
Like Clinton I did not have sex with that women.. HAHAHA
Patriotic
your history is a bit skewed. the real cause for this depressions was two things. 1 Favorite Nation and Trade status with China. Mr Clinton
2 Jimmy Carter and his desire that every american own a home. Mr. Clinton put teeth in a policy the Jimmy Carter dreamed of. Bankers forced to make loans to people with low credit scores cause the banks to sell those loans as investments to make money. Set in motion long before Bush was in office.
June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.
Trouble & Laser, apparently your Internet sleuthing needs a little work. These FACTS have been available to all who care, for years now. It seems it's only a "massacare' when Dems are in office. Otherwise it's an "incident".
Regardless of the outcome, it will be swept under the carpet and nobody will be held accountable. It's pretty sad when your country doesn't help it's diplomats overseas.
Sow your seeds...you are talking to a poster who is a wig wearing pig. 'Nuff said???
Let the diplomats and security personnel rest in peace.
Jesus @!$%#ing Christ, give it a @!$%#ing rest already.
4,500 Americans needlessly died in Iraq thanks to IDIOT BUSH and CHENEY., but I guess you were okay with that bull@!$%#.
What is truly sad is the fact that the 9/11 attacks were not only allowed to happen, they were facilitated by some in our government, including VP Cheney, the CIA, the FBI and NORAD, as well as a foreign government called Israel.
The Bush/Cheney adminisatration fought at attempts to investigate 9/11 and would not testify themselves, unless it was done together ( had to keep the stories straight, I guess). Oh - it all had to be secret.
They never explained why warnings from Russia and other nations were ignored, why access to files on the computer of Moussaui, the alleged 20th hi jacker was denied, despite pleas from the FBI agent in Wisconsin, where Moussaui was taking flying lessons or why NORAD was conducting exercises on 9/11. Those exercises were to simulate response from an airplane crash into a building. Wow, what a coincidence. Was it a drill or not a drill? How would responding pilots know?
The 9/11 Commission never addressed how and why Bldg 7 fell in a controlled demolition, despite never having been hit by an airplane. 1300 Engineers and Architects all agree that the WTCs were brought down with nano thermite, not planes. Bldg 7 is the smoking gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3dW_gUwOg -- Bldg 7 falling
Molten Heat -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU&feature=related
It was an inside job and these clowns are fixated on Bengazi. Something stinks.
Anyone notice the Zionists are now going to oppose Chuck Hagel for Sec. of Defense. Why is the story not on the MSNBC website?
So Colonel Clinton is also a Sheriff. Her deputies are now covering her sorry ass. Concussion, the flu, I do not recall. She has been just fine flying all over the world for the past 4 years. I would love to see how much she has spent on her SECOND WORLD TOUR.
Typical Liberal BS...Blame everyone except the Dims. You can always tell hen a Topic negatively affecting the Obama Administration hits a raw nerve with the MSNBC NewsVine bootlicker Liberal idiots. They stay in bed and avoid the vine like it was the Black Plague. Like Fisty!!
And your user name is Moderate? You have no idea what a moderate is. You are a full blown RWNJ.
That is the truest statement I've read today! God forbid ANYONE defame the almighty bho!
verno....So they're not a moderate because they don't follow YOUR train of though?? Here's a hint genious if they did they'd be a ragin liberal not a moderate....
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It's amusing to me how many people seem to be ignorant of the fact that people like the President or the Secretary of State don't personally handle details like how many security guards are assigned to a post, how they are armed, etc. There are underlings whose sole responsibility it is to handle those kinds of details and the President or the Secretary rightly depend on those underlings to do their job. In this case the underling apparently was not doing his job and now he has resigned, probably having been forced to resign. Now, that is not to say that the President and/or the Secretary don't deserve some criticism for the security lapse. The President picks the Secretary and the Secretary, presumably, picked the guy who just "resigned." But to suggest that the Secretary is harboring some secretive or particularly damning evidence about this security screw-up, something that she's going to be able to suddenly blurt out in a hearing, is beyond stupid. I know the Republicans in particular are just breathlessly waiting for something they can use in the political arena, which is mainly what they do while they are refusing to do serious work on the country's urgent problems.
If she is responsible then she should take the blame and resign for NOT doing her job and if she's not responsible, why did she say she takes responsibility?
She F____— up and should leave, case closed!
Ever heard "the buck stops here"....it doesn't stop with an underling. And besides Obama said in the second debate, that he (in the Rose Garden) the day after the attack, called it a terrorist attack, remember "pull the transcript Candy"........So according to O, he knew the next day and then Rice goes out FIVE days later blaming it on a video and no one told her that O already knew it wasn't the video but terrorists. And you really think people are going to believe this.
It matters not "steve". Wasn't the ceo of BP raked across the coals for the disaster in the Gulf? Despite the fact that he was nowhere near the Gulf at the time? Apparently the "buck does not stop here" with the almigthy bho...
OBAMA RE-ELECTED PRESIDENT HOORAY!!
Hahahahahaha
Get over Benghazi RWNJ's hahahahahah
Morons unite on this seed, that's for sure.
Ever hear "the buck stops here" would be interesting if applied to George Dubya Bush who remained sitting in a classroom when advised that the U.S. was being ATTACKED! CONdomleeza Rice didn't resign either - where's your PHONY outrage about that crackho? She was out shopping for two-three thousand dollar shoes while Katrina was killing hundreds in New Orleans. Why weren't you Reds squawking then??
George Dubya Bush DID NOT take ANY responsibility for the FAA and the U.S. military when neither followed established protocol which is WHENEVER a plane does not respond to control towers... and George Dubya Bush's 9/11 had FOUR PLANES out of contact... NO military response occurred, but they were non-coincidentally conducting simulated attacks IDENTICAL to the real attacks occurring in New York and Washington. These planes were intentionally being preoccupied with practice exercises FAR from the areas which were really under attack!
You radical right wing Mittwits practically want to burn down Washington to BLAME somebody for these four deaths yet NONE of you HYPOCRITES squawked about Dubya's responsibility for 2,996 deaths in New York alone. What say Repubicons about Dubya? Where was the FAA response? Where was the military response? You clowns need to catch up with reality! Load up on Ginko biloba and join the MAJORITY of Americans who want Reps to stop blowing smoke all over this situation, put down your crackpipes and take a deep breath of reality.
We need to begin recall elections for all these congressional Reps who continue to STOP America's recovery from the Repubicon looting of our treasury for two wars and multiple tax breaks on credit WITH COMMUNIST CHINA. You say Dems tax and spend; but Reps just spend, spend, spend and then borrow, borrow, borrow. THEN, the Dems have to clean up their MESS. Your party is over and the bills have to be paid so let us adults take care of America. Go watch the Faux Noise Channel while we repair all the damage the Repustulcons have wrought.
Harry - The whole problem was they didn't connect the dots. Four planes were flying around and NORAD was off conducting drills. The Pentagon was not hit until an hour after the WTCs and NORAD was conducting drills. Not one person lost their job or was even reprimanded. Bush fought the idea of an investigation from the beginning.
Now the Republicans are all in a dither about Bengazi, but didn't give a rats behind about 9/11. Even now, there should be an investigation led by outsiders. Larry Silverstein should be waterboarded until he tells how the WTCs were rigged for controlled demolition. He was on video saying "PULL IT" just before Bldg 7 fell into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds. "Pull it" is the term meaning to pull a building down with explosives.
Anyone with a functioning brain can see Bldg 7 was rigged to fall. Watch the video. If one building was rigged, they all were rigged. It takes weeks to plant the explosives. The news media was saying the building was going to fall, well in advance of the actual fall. It only had a few fires in it. Silverstein had insured all 3 buildings for billions against a terrorist attack in July. Wow, what a lucky break for him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3dW_gUwOg -- Bldg 7 falling
Every Republican member of the House should resign for cutting security funds.
You need facts. More democrats voted for the cuts then Republicans. Liberal sheeps do like facts though!
every illegal alien should self-deport for sucking the govt teet dry.
And every democrat should be put on a slow boat to China. A slow boat with a fast leak.
Hey Dan - Bush was in charge during the original 9/11, despite all the warnings, was he not? I don't recall anyone even getting a slap on the wrist, do you?
Hey "ralph", and roosevelt was in charge during the original Pearl Harbor. What exactly is your point? And despite the ample evidence of an impending attack, he did nothing. Arm chair historians certainly are an idiotic bunch...
Joe Thomas and Moderate, Secretary Clinton had the flu, as did several members of her retinue on the overseas trip she was on. Dehydration, while working the hours necessary, would be natural. Ms. Clinton works her butt off. I firmly believe the reports she fainted and suffered a concussion. I've done the same, although I've never had the flu. The dehydration came from working in my yard, about an acre and a half. I felt a little dizzy, came into the carport, felt dizzier, fainted and ended in the emergency room.
An underfunded State Department just can''t give the necessary security to all the hotspots in the world. Both Republicans, who will be blamed, and the Democrats, who won't, voted against more funds. Give State the money necessary to do their job. And make sure that enough Marines, who guard the missions, are posted to give the necessary security.
Make sure your Representatives and Senators, be they Democratic or Republican, know that the American people will not tolerate situations such as happened in Benghazi due to lack of funds and poor planning and not taking appropriate actions to stop them.
Maybe they should leave it up to a Veteran of the Military, Maybe a Marine who knows security in this area to run this instead of most of the NON Veteran civilians!!!!!!! Make sure that they have some ammo and weapons to do the job
To add to what I said in my earlier post, I'm a flaming Liberal. I make Barney Frank seem like he belongs to the Tea Party. That said, I blame the Democrats as much as Republicans for the debacle, not to mention those in the State Department that ignored the cries for more help in defending the mission and the people there.
Under Bush 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks.
Obama is doing a much better job of security overseas.
@ERIC: It's about BENGHAZI...read the headline pal....stick to the point
It's about embassy deaths overseas.
Bush 53 Obama 4
Obama is doing a much better job at security despite Republicans slicing the budget for security.
He can't. Apparently someone taught a monkey how to type the same thing, over and over...
Eric-913730
I too would like to see this proof. I did some searching and now want to see how you came up with this.
Or are you one of those DEMs that post lies and run...
I am sure you are a runner..
one of his little libby friends learned how to cut n paste yesterday as well. its like when a child learns to tie their own shoes; they do it over and over again.
trouble1954:
Your name suits you perfectly.
You ARE trouble, and for some reason, you are proud of it.
Stupid post (#12).
Too damned late!!!
Yes, we should have raked Bush over the coals. Under Bush 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks.
Benghazi had NOTHING to do with Bush....WAKE UP
Embassy deaths overseas.....that is what we are talking about. Obama has done a much better job than Bush ever did.
Eric as I've said before a death is a death is a death....this isn't a game and we aren't keeping score...But I'm glad you support a President where deaths happened under his watch because his decisions haven't killed as many as someone else's...
I think that Bush has more blood on his hands (civilian/gov workers/military) than President Obama...
I think that Repubs are willing to look past Bush...because they are party blind
I think the the Repubs should just get back to work and fix the bs budget before the fiscal cliff - oh and budget security for ambassadors...if its such a f'n big deal.
June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.
There have been 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks under Bush, yet Republicans are complaining about the 4 under Obama, and Republicans are the ones that cut funding for security overseas.
We need to be removing the Republicans slashing security budgets overseas, to solve the problem.
Embassy deaths is the thread, take responsibility Republicans for cutting the funding for embassies overseas!!!
trouble1954. You don't seem to like the facts that are brought to your attention. It is a fact what Eric is posting, and yes they do matter in this discussion. But you would like to forget about it because it was a Republican in office when they happened. But they did happen and there was not a giant uproar like is going on now. So deal with it!
The State Department testified that funding was not even an issue regarding Benghazi; quit pulling the covers over your head and face the Ghosts of Benghazi....you cowards
But did Bush at any time blame it on a you tube video for 2 weeks after even CNN had pictures the Libyan leader came out and said it was a planned attack, So Eric there is the problem and makes this administration the most incompetent as far as leadership. Billions were spent by the State Dept, but not where it needed to go - typical Govt spending. The whole thing was covered up so Obama didn't have to face the fact that Al Queda and the Taliban are growing in force. Remember he is merely a Community Organizer.
eric I want to see YOUR proof, in other words where you got your information. You keep repeating the same thing but no proof.
Eric-913730
I too would like to see this proof. I did some searching and now want to see how you came up with this.
Or are you one of those DEMs that post lies and run...
I am sure you are a runner..
Eric's other moniker is corntrolio
BS! Coverup is the thread!
June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls' school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana'a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.
and the $1,000,000 question what president or former president is wanted for war crimes?
Nice cut and paste James...Now tell us how many American's were killed....
and you're an authority on what?
Trillian (#15.1):
trouble1954 isn't an authority on anything. Notice how s/he has to use a LARGE font to try to get his/her posts noticed? Just like a crybaby..........a pacifier needs to be stuck in his mouth.
And just like a baby, doesn't remember anything his buddy Bush did. (No offense to babies, who I just KNOW are smarter than he is.....)
"Clinton deputy says State Department has begun to fix security problems"
Can they fix the governments inability to tell truth. Calling the terrorist attack a spontaneous demonstration caused by an American made video.
Well of course not! They don't have the scones to call a spade a spade in fear of "offending" any of those animals. Bunch of deflecting cowards...
Fix security problems........how about telling us what is wrong? How about starting with what went wrong in Benghazi?
NBC top story.... "Clinton deputy says State Dept has begun to fix" (not sure if that is grammatically correct).
Hey, I feel all better about the entire thing now. A Deputy speaking for Clinton says that after 4 months they are starting to fix the state department.... Ya, ok.
Convenient.
Guess this sums up 'who' was responsible:
On Tuesday the Accountability Review Board (ARB) blamed State Department officials for "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" that led to the protection for the Benghazi facility that was "grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."
The board found that despite repeated requests from American diplomats in Libya that the number of security staff in Benghazi on the day of the attack was inadequate.
Guess who is in charge at the SD? Oh, that's is Hillary.
Fat chance she will ever win in 2016. Hopefully she will save herself the embarrasment of running. If she can't run 1 Department there is no way she could hope to run the Country. Not that she would have had the chance anyway.
The sad thing is that Kerry is much worse. He is a coward and a traitor, but I guess we can't expect any better from the powers that be.
Wish he would have been tried for treason along with his friends Jane Fonda and Tom (whatshisname). He is a disgrace to everyone that ever wore the uniform. Before you get on the bandwagon about him being a 'decorated war veteran' go study all the facts on that and not just your Demogogery.
Hey Eric, not one of those were American officials. All the attacks happened outside the Consulates and Embassy's. We are not responsible for what happens outside the compounds. In fact it is the Host country that is supposed to make sure our Embassy's are not breached. Once they are it is States responsibilty to make sure we can defend ourselves.
Funny how none of the Libtards on these forums even know what they are spouting. If the fearful Leader or his cronies don't say it they don't know anything else to say. And yes, Susan Rice is also to blame for being a puppet if nothing else. She went around the country lying to everyone on her fellow Islamic leaders behalf.
Kerry is indeed a aberration to anyone who has worn the uniform. Thank you for your insight "N"!
Maybe Obama should now go with his preferred choice back in 2008 - Colin Powell for SoS.
What a load of horse crap!!!
It's ove already.2013 and this Ben.deal,will both end
Time to clean house in the State Dept. starting at the top.
Mrs. Clinton can't testify at the Libya hearings because she fainted and can't remember anything. In a un-related news it is also reported that President Obama and Ambassador Rice have also fallen and can't remember anything. White House spokesman James Carney provided a stinging criticism of the republicans for putting lives in danger by refusing a request for 20 Billion dollars to replace a worn door mat at the White House. Carney finished by exclaiming how many more will fall.
Yes, anyone with half a brain knows there is a massive cover up here involvling everyone from the TOP down! Benghazi flu seems to be quite contagious! It is disgusting and I for one am TRULY embarrassed of our presidential administration! Susan Rice pontificating on how this is being "politicized". The only people who politicized this were Obama and herself. Ugh. four more years of this so called "leadership". Sad, sad days for America.
why isnt msnbc reporting on the marine in a mexican jail??
WHY IS IT OVER ?.....Because there are no more bodies to throw over the side ?....Because Hillary & Barry-Boy are the only 2 left who have not lost their jobs as a result of this massacre ?
Sorry about your luck, this ain't even CLOSE to over