Searching for Benghazi answers, Ayotte rises to starring GOP role

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Updated 4:02pm ET Finishing just her second year in the Senate, New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte has quickly ascended to the top tier of Republican national security advocates and GOP message-mongers.

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U.S. Senator Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., addresses the second session of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. Aug. 28, 2012.

Ubiquitous as a surrogate for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for much of the past year, Ayotte has now become a steely-eyed adversary of President Barack Obama and his United Nations envoy Susan Rice for their explanation of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. And because of her unique identity in the Senate as a Northeastern conservative Republican woman, Ayotte’s profile is only likely to continue to grow.

The opposition from Ayotte and other Republican senators to the idea of Rice becoming secretary of state may have taken its toll: on Thursday Rice announced she’d asked Obama to withdraw her name from consideration for that post.

At a talk at the conservative think tank the American Enterprise Institute Wednesday, she continued to press her questioning of the failure to prevent the attack or adequately defend the consulate. 

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., explains why she's not happy with Ambassador Susan Rice and her handling of the Benghazi situation.

“People have questioned (me): Why are you so interested in this issue? I’m very interested because frankly it’s been shocking to me how much you have to drag the information out of the administration,” she said.

“We have to take the lessons from this and make sure it doesn’t happen again,” she added.

She also said that part of her interest in the Benghazi attack is rooted in her experience as a murder prosecutor when she served as deputy attorney general and then as attorney general in New Hampshire.

“I’ve been frankly shocked at how long it took the FBI to get in there,” she said. “It would be shocking to me in the average murder case that the media would be able to retrieve some of the evidence that they recovered” at the Benghazi site.

She also warned that further reductions in defense outlays would be dangerous, telling the AEI audience that no one could argue that “we’re in such a secure place in this country or without threats from around the world that we should be taking a significant peace dividend.”

She cautioned Republicans about “a strain in our party that’s much more libertarian, that is more isolationist” and that “if Ronald Reagan were here looking at that, he would be troubled by it.”

Sen. Kelly Ayotte explains whether the criticism of Ambassador Susan Rice is weakening her role as a representative of the United States on the world stage.

Ayotte has repeatedly made the case that Social Security, Medicare and other entitlement spending -- not defense spending -- is driving the deficit and debt problems.

She was asked at the AEI event whether she supports efforts by Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to restrain health care spending in the military’s TRICARE program by requiring military members and military retirees to pay more for their coverage.

“There’s no question that health care is an issue that we have to deal with, not only on the civilian side but on the military side,” she said.

But, she added, it would be “unfair to ask those who have sacrificed the most for us, ‘You go first, OK, guys? We know you go first on the front lines. Don’t touch Social Security, don’t make any changes to Medicare, but here, let’s start (the spending cuts) with TRICARE.’ ”

Ayotte’s husband Joe Daley flew combat missions during the Iraq war and is now retired from the Air National Guard.

Part of Ayotte’s prominence is simple to explain: in a Republican Senate conference that’s largely Southern, Western, and male, Ayotte is a woman from the Northeast. In the New Year, there will be only four female GOP senators: Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, the just-elected Deb Fischer from Nebraska, and Ayotte. It seems likely she’ll continue playing a highly visible role, perhaps as a candidate for vice president in 2016.

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Ayotte uses her status as mother in her messaging. “When I think about it -- I am the mother of two children -- how could we possibly ask our children to pay back $26 trillion in debt? It is outrageous,” she said during a Senate debate in February.

Despite a 95 out of 100 rating from the American Conservative Union, on occasion Ayotte has voted in opposition to her party’s conservative wing.

Last week, for instance, she was one of eight Republican senators to vote to ratify the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. Thirty-eight GOP senators, including the party’s leadership, opposed the treaty. But Ayotte sided with Republican centrists such as Collins, Murkowski, and Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine.

Were it not for a mere 1,659 votes, Ayotte wouldn’t be in the starring role she now occupies -- that was her one-percentage point margin of victory in the 2010 Senate primary over social conservative  and tea party favorite Ovide Lamontagne.

She then demolished Democrat Paul Hodes in the general election, winning 60 percent of the vote.

Prior to starting her Senate career, Ayotte, 44, was New Hampshire attorney general, originally appointed by Republican Gov. Craig Benson and re-appointed by Democratic Gov. John Lynch. She was known in Washington primarily for being the lawyer who argued and won the 2005 Supreme Court case bearing her name, Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood of Northern New England, as she defended her state’s parental notification law for abortion.

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Back in her home state, Democrats are dismissive of Ayotte’s notoriety in the nation’s capital. They say they’re looking forward to defeating her when she runs for a second term.

Raymond Buckley, chairman of the New Hampshire Democratic Party said Wednesday that when Ayotte won in 2010, she “was able to portray herself as a moderate, not a very partisan person, having been re-appointed attorney general by Democratic Gov. John Lynch. She’s not going to have that luxury when she runs (in 2016) because her voting record and her high profile has exposed her to New Hampshire voters as being a Radical Right member of the Senate.”

Buckley criticized her for being the only member of the New Hampshire delegation to vote no on the highway bill last June. Ayotte said after that vote that while “we need to strengthen America’s transportation infrastructure, including worthy projects like widening I-93” in New Hampshire, the bill “was yet another ‘buy now, pay later’ scheme that fails to fundamentally reform how we pay for highway projects” and was based on “accounting gimmicks” and “reckless borrowing.”

Buckley also criticized Ayotte’s opposition to the Affordable Care Act and “certainly her position on social issues; she is way out of the mainstream when it comes to choice (on abortion), when it comes to LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) issues.” And Buckley’s view is that “the Benghazi obsession that she has is certainly not going over well here in New Hampshire.”

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Starring GOP role... Really?

She looks like a fool.

  • 59 votes
#1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST

“if Ronald Reagan were here looking at that, he would be troubled by it.”

If Ronald Reagan were here, he'd be driven out of the party by purists who would call him a RINO. Get real.

  • 55 votes
#1.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST

I don't understand how a woman, who apparently feels strongly about these things, never seems to show any emotion on her face. She always seems to have the same expression.

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#1.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:05 PM EST

Sen. Kelly Ayotte ....to partisan...a new star?? same old - same old - partisan hack.

  • 46 votes
#1.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:06 PM EST

Thank you! If Ronald Reagan were here looking at her, I think he would be troubled! Why do Conservatives continue to piss all over themselves to mention Reagan? That is troubling, considering he was a mediocre president, at best. Well, I guess they can't talk about either Bush men, so Ronnie it is.

Kelly Ayotte, in that terrible close up, looks like the proverbial pit bull with lipstick. She really needs to tell her PR people, "NO Close Ups!"

  • 43 votes
#1.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:08 PM EST

She's just another empty-headed fool who does what the party machine tells her to do. If you get a chance to watch her perform in committee, where the fools can't hide behind a script, you'll see immediately how empty she is between the ears.

  • 38 votes
#1.5 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:22 PM EST

Ayotte Idiotte, is making noise to rally her base and nothing more. It was the Republicans that denied the extra funding for defense of embassies. Only now are they arguing for a "bigger military" at a time when we are winding down two wars, and trying to raise revenues.

  • 42 votes
#1.6 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:25 PM EST

I don't understand how a woman, who apparently feels strongly about these things, never seems to show any emotion on her face. She always seems to have the same expression.

It's Botox and plastic surgery. Look at her forehead and neck.

  • 16 votes
#1.7 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST

It seems that Ms. Ayotte forgot she represents the people of New Hampshire once she arrived in Washington, rather taking up the cause of the extreme right in the GOP. She (and they) don't seem to understand that the people of this country rejected that ideology in the recent presidential election.

  • 31 votes
#1.8 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:58 PM EST

Whitewater part duex...

Just another example of how wrong the GOP is for America. They have laid waste to Don Quixote's record.

  • 26 votes
#1.9 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:11 PM EST

Just another empty-headed RWNJ who sees an opportunity (the GOP likes using that word) to join the media circus that is the current republican party...

  • 21 votes
#1.10 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:58 PM EST
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And you seem like an idiot.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:11 PM EST

Chip... a typical liberal response, no comment on content, only on appearances. Comical as if from a 5 year old.

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:15 PM EST

Eric-913730 -149 Democrats voted in favor of those funding cuts, more than the 147 Republicans. Kind of blows your rant right out the window.

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#1.13 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:18 PM EST

Benghazi:
Ambassador was offered more security -- he turned it down.
Libyans then begged Ambassador to take on more security -- he turned them down too.
Ambassador was approached again about more security on the morning of his death -- he turned them down again.
The ambassador is wholly responsible for his own death.
End of story.

.

  • 19 votes
#1.14 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:19 PM EST

There is a lot we may never know but even conservative publications glean a spotted role for Stevens in Libya and throughout the ME:

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#1.15 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:41 PM EST

The woman seems rather robotic to me. If this is a republican STAR,, great news for the dems.

  • 19 votes
#1.16 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:02 PM EST

Ayotte needs to go! She is dangerous with her idiotic outlooks and position on many issues. She is what takes down the Republican Party and its values.

Get rid of this maniac.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:30 PM EST

This token fool reminds me of the idiotic Michele Bachmann just another crazy Conservative trying to make a name for herself. A surrogate for the LOSER Mitt Rob Us Blind - LMAO allready a loser

WHY DOSN'T SHE QUESTION BUSH'S FAILURE TO PREVENT 9/11 when THOUSANDS DIED?

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:15 PM EST

If Ronald Reagan were looking at his untied shoes, he would be confused.

  • 6 votes
#1.19 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:33 PM EST

1.14:

Why did the Ambassador LEAVE the safety of the newly erected, highly secured EMBASSY for the smaller Consulate.... that was barely protected because the Republicans voted against extra security ?

What was so important that he went on 9/11?

Is this part of the CLASSIFIED info that is kept CLASSIFIED as a part of National security?

?

?

?

Somehow, the EXPERTS AT FOX , McCain, Graham, and super-star Ayotte are suddenly more knowledgeable about the original CLASSIFIED information. (Yet,I'm wondering why their BRILLIANCE screwed up their Presidential prediction.)

I respect CLASSIFIED... I have no interest in pompous grand-standing.

If the CIA, FBI, State Dpt. and Generals can't nail Susan Rice for being incompetent.... where does Ayotte get her "info" ?

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:21 PM EST

Oh look, the GOWRM (Grumpy Old White Republican Males) have let a woman rise and stand!!! Did they find her in the "binders of women," Mitt left them with?

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#1.21 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:26 PM EST

This jerk-off senator is worried about 4 deaths.

HELLO...301 AMERICANS got killed in Afghanistan so far this year!!! A total of 2,035 so far..THINK!

If you're going to bi**h about deaths of Americans..make it all aound!

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:39 PM EST

I often tried to picture a loving husband slipping beneath the sheets with wild-eyed Michelle Bachmann and shuddered at the thought. Until I saw hubby Marcus in action. He undoubtedly sleeps in the basement cuddling his most recent gay patient that is striving for enlightenment.

For whatever reason, this was my first opportunity to gaze in the eyes of Ayotte. My God, she makes bat$hit crazy wild-eyed Bachmann look downright warm and cozy. I would much rather snuggle up to the very cold and long dead corpse of Bloody Mary.

How in the world does the GOP seek out such women? Katherine Harris also comes to mind. Do they utilize a special "bitching stick" (cousin to the common well water witching stick) ? Perhaps we can chalk it up simply to mutual attraction. This is no reflection on the many women that vote Republican. You are merely mislead by your dominating older white husbands(you remember, all of that pregnant and barefoot nonsense).

  • 7 votes
#1.23 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST

Would suck to know your stardom came at the expense of an innocent person. Just sayin. The ENTIRE Benghazi deal was nothing more and will forever be an unhonorable accusation at the end of a losing unhonorable republican election process.

How pathetic.

  • 8 votes
#1.24 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:57 PM EST

Last week was deer hunting season in my state...I always visit a old friend who passed away a few years ago who I always hunted with. As I left the old cemetery there was like five police cars and 100 motorcycles with over 100 cars coming down the road...I figure it was one of our brave hero's and waited until the very last car went by before I entered the road. I look it up online..and it was indeed one of our hero's..he was only 25 years old, married with two children..he was killed by an IED in Afghanistan!

Thank you for all who serve!

  • 5 votes
#1.25 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:01 PM EST

Thank you for reminding us that those self-serving and grandiose politicians (on both sides of the aisle) don't hold a candle to the many brave young men and women that sacrifice all to preserve the true ideals of the greatest nation on earth. American exceptionalism lies at their humble feet instead of the arms of grandstanding politicians.

Our greatest debt to them can only be honored by honest sacrifice and hard work on our own part to build an ever greater America so that their sacrifices are not in vain. We can do this by forsaking party loyalty in favor of compromise and working side by side with fellow Americans that share a common goal while respecting their differing political views. That's how this bold American experiment was born and the only way it will continue to grow.

    #1.26 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:10 AM EST

    RI mom

    On the security cuts those voting for 149 democrats, 147 Republicans. Republicans had a 30+ seat advantage. I.E. a greater percentage of democrats voted for the cuts.

    • 4 votes
    #1.27 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:26 AM EST

    She looks like Michael Jackson.

    • 3 votes
    #1.28 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:33 AM EST

    "Kelly Ayotte has quickly ascended to the top tier of Republican national security advocates and GOP message-mongers." That's a pretty low bar these days.

    “We have to take the lessons from this and make sure it doesn’t happen again,” she added. Wow, she's going to make sure a terrorist attack never happens again!

    She's playing politics, nothing more, nothing less.

    • 2 votes
    #1.30 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:35 AM EST

    First comment: "She looks like a fool"

    A typical comment from the Obama, Democrat supporters as well as the "far left."

    • 5 votes
    #1.31 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:45 AM EST

    Hey Chip, see looks like a Fool, she doesn't look like a Fool - She is a Fool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.32 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:07 PM EST

    A mediocre fool looking to lose that bud and untangle Her withering vine.

    • 2 votes
    #1.33 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:19 PM EST

    I can't wait for the day when this Benghazi non-story goes away....

    • 2 votes
    #1.34 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:01 PM EST

    Wow...such haters and name callers....that's the root of the libs....Benghazi isn't going away. If I were her I'd go over to the White House and bang on the door....and ask the Empty Suit...WTF!!!

    Your Messiah is an accessory to murder for this tragedy.....along with his AG for F&F. He should be investigated for writing off 4 Americans just to win an election......

    • 3 votes
    #1.35 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 PM EST

    There you go DB...clouding the issue with facts. Notice how when you bring up the fact the libs automatically go back to calling her a fool?

    Typical response for the Empty Suit indoctrinated, thrill up the leg, kool-aid drinking libs......One implies that we shouldn't be concerned about 4 dead Americans....Obviously the Empty Suit wasn't.....He's probably happy about the fiscal cliff issues...takes the heat off of him for being an accessory to murder....

    • 3 votes
    #1.36 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:36 PM EST

    So...republicans still racing to take the title for who can be the most batsh!t crazy, huh?

    There's so many of them, it's hard to tell who's in the lead.

    Well, she hasn't brought up Sharia Law yet, so she's still got some ways to go.

    • 1 vote
    #1.37 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:06 PM EST

    Typical Progressive......first post.

    For the American people, there will be NO truthful comments coming out of this administration about Benghazi. Just listen to the Secretary of the State's comments, IF and that is a big IF, she testifies. She will provide only pre-planned comments and bullet statements. Don't want to "blemish" her record for a failed run in 2016.

    You got what you voted for.....the 52 Percenters.

    Ask about Sharia Law: might want to ask the Secretary of State's Chief of Staff that question.

    • 2 votes
    #1.38 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:21 PM EST

    Just the latest driver of the republikan bulldozer building a mountain out of this molehill. After 9/11 their silence with regard to what happened and why was absolutely deafening. The Bush administration refused to cooperate with any investigation, but then only 3000 Americans died then. This is just pure political bull@!$%#, like this Sharia law crap.

    • 2 votes
    #1.39 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:53 AM EST

    I used to think she was one of the saner republicans, but after her Benghazi bull@!$%#, I put her in there with the rest of the right wingnuts. I think this entire Benghazi issue has been hijacked by idiots who wanted to make this into some big political football, and I have no respect for their position. I kept waiting for them to focus on the REAL issues of the tragedy, but it still hasn't happened. I hope she and the rest of the teabags get the boot.

      #1.40 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:39 PM EST

      May she pursue the reason a maniac in Connecticut was able to slaughter children with as much vigor. That'll likely cause her to collide with gun advocates which means no repub will do anything.

        #1.41 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:35 PM EST

        Well we know Hillary won't be there. She just had a fainting spell from all the exhaustion of flying around an wine tasting. Hope you get better, Hillary, after the committee adjourns. I am sure you will.

          #1.42 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:03 PM EST

          Yep, same hypocrites that later said that they did not say that they voted for 2008 Candidate Obama based on "looks like a President" versus actual substance.

          Voters
          Politicians manipulate voters every day with half-truths -- or outright lies -- about taxes, spending and many other issues that directly affect the nation's prosperity.

          Too many voters embrace feel-good propaganda that they want to hear instead of learning the basic facts about issues they care about. They should do a better job of calling out dishonest politicians -- and shunning media outlets that stoke political food fights.

          http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress

          • 1 vote
          #1.43 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:51 PM EST

          GeneralEclectic - She's just another empty-headed fool who does what the party machine tells her to do. If you get a chance to watch her perform in committee, where the fools can't hide behind a script, you'll see immediately how empty she is between the ears.

          Why are you "dissing" (disrespecting) President Obama Political Appointee UN Ambassador Susan Rice (Demoncrap).

          • 1 vote
          #1.44 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:55 PM EST

          AlaskaGirl-759554 - Well, I guess they can't talk about either Bush men

          Another hypocrite with mock outrage when the News Media says "Mr. Obama" instead of President Obama. Guess that only works one way for hypocrites like you AlaskaGirl-759554 claiming "Traitor", Prosecution, etc. for saying "Mr. Obama".

          FACT: The Misery Index as Report Card for US Presidents. The Higher the Number the More Miserable the US Citizens are:

          Barack H. Obama Average 10.66 (down from 10.68)

          George W. Bush Average 8.11

          PS. Are you also a racist or just uneducated, go look up the slang for Bushmen.

          • 1 vote
          #1.45 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:02 PM EST

          Eric-913730 - It was the Republicans that denied the extra funding for defense of embassies.

          ONCE AGAIN UNEDUCATED POST. SOS Clinton, "Funding was not an issue". And it was the Demoncraps that also Voted for Decreased Funding for Security of the US Embassies (hint: Benghazi was a US Consulate NOT a US Embassy).

          Eric-913730 - Only now are they arguing for a "bigger military" at a time when we are winding down two wars, and trying to raise revenues.

          What's the matter your Messy-i-yah did not tell you about all the other crap he committed the US Military to due to his FAILED (Foreign) Policies. And you do not even know which Foreign Policies I am talking about do you UNEDUCATED Eric-913730 posting your nonsense.

          • 1 vote
          #1.46 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:18 PM EST

          Witchking - WHY DOSN'T SHE QUESTION BUSH'S FAILURE TO PREVENT 9/11 when THOUSANDS DIED?

          I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ALSO. You were told before, and failed to do the research AGAIN. Learn to do a Causative Timeline (that would assume that you have an education, are not too lazy, and have some cognitive reasoning skills, etc.).

          The then Director of the CIA Bush (before becoming President (41)) built up the US Intelligence.

          President Clinton (42) believed that the "Cold War Era" sized US Intelligence and US Military were no longer necessary, so he Gutted the US Intelligence Agencies, Chopped the US Defense Budget, and Cut the US Military to the Bone with Reductions In Forces of the US Military Personnel.

          The Results: The US was Blind and Deaf to the Events leading up to the 9/11 2001 Attacks according to the Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendations. Former President Clinton saying, " I'm a so sorry".

          On the US Military side the "Cold War Era" US Army Anti Aircraft Missile Batteries that used to protect most US Cities were deactivated and abandoned; the USAF Interceptor Aircraft on "Standby" at US Commercial Airports were reassigned to USAF Bases (too far away for previous CAP Mission of US Airports).

          As part of the US Defence Budget Cuts were also the Cuts to the Funding for the Longterm US Infrastructure Projects of the US Army Corps of Engineers like the modifications, building new, retrofits, maintenance, etc. of the Levees at New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina (US Congressional Katrina Hearings), the "Berms" aka Levees at New Jersey (recent flooding due to Hurricane Sandy), Sea Walls, Bridges, Irrigation Canals (current droughts), Dredging (current flooding and droughts), Water Reservoirs (current droughts), Dams, Beach Erosion, etc.. As these Longterm US Army Corps of Engineer Projects of US Infrastructure MUST be funded decades prior due to Required Contract Reviews (GAO, CBO, etc.), potential Lawsuits and lengthy Court Cases, Mandatory Environmental Reviews, etc..

          • 1 vote
          #1.47 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST

          Bluelake - After 9/11 their silence with regard to what happened and why was absolutely deafening.

          So because you are illiterate someone has to read to you, and spoon feed you (tell you their interpretation) the Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendations.

          Instead of momma bird (DNC) regurgitating (vomiting) into your mouth, she turned around a took a big crap, sing it Bluelake mmmmm, good, mmmmm, good, ohmomma's poop is mmmm, good.

          • 1 vote
          #1.48 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:56 PM EST

          RI Mom - Why did the Ambassador LEAVE the safety of the newly erected, highly secured EMBASSY for the smaller Consulate.... that was barely protected because the Republicans voted against extra security ? What was so important that he went on 9/11? Is this part of the CLASSIFIED info that is kept CLASSIFIED as a part of National security?

          Do you really want viable answers to your post.

          If you really want to become an expert on this or any issue,

          First Step, Collect all Available Information from all Sources (Computers and the Internet make this extremely easy as copy, paste and save to computer; I use Microsoft Word to open each so that I can highlight information, then I import these into a Relational Database based on my own numerical ratings of validity). Note: When I say ALL Available Information that includes especially valuable NON US, as Foreign Sources not affiliated nor indebted to a specific US Political Party.

          Second, Read all of the Information, and like Law School, Post Graduate College, etc. highlight each piece of what you deem as Valid (not opinion) Factual Information (who, what, where, how, when, why, how, etc.), you will have to rate each piece of information (Fact, Opinion, Speculation, etc. and rating how credible each source is), do NOT discard, nor delete anything, even if you believe something is insignificant.

          Third, Verify everything that you deemed as Valid Factual Information from other previously credible sources (minimum of two). Translation, that means Wikipedia is NOT a valid source (their own disclaimers) as someone else's interpretation of information, pulling basic dates, names, in context quotes (attributed to a specific name), etc. as facts is ok (as long as you verify those also thru non Wikipedia sources.).

          Fourth, arrange everything chronologically (I used to use Relational Database Filemaker Pro on my computer(s)).

          Fifth, create a Causative Timeline, this will determine the Events leading from one to another, you will be able to see the missing information (requiring you to do more research, and verification of that new information) and you will be able to see the other Causative Timelines as the Interrelated Systems Management Approach (what other people were doing or events occurring behind the scenes). Those "inconsistencies" that you start to see, based on the Rules of Logic (Philosophy, Logic) are what are commonly known as False, aka Lies; do not dump nor delete these either, you will need to do additional research to find out why (detailed motives (who gains, what they gain, etc., from this you will start to see all kinds of people "popping out of the woodwork" that would rather not be exposed), not just broad motives like "political", etc..).

          Sixth, you will have to do more additional research as to find out previous information like conditions and or Baseline History prior to the events of your Causative Timeline, if you are really ambitious in your quest for the Truth and Knowledge you can also create a Predictive Timeline Model to find out what might happen next (you would have to create a personality profile based on History, a minimum of Perth Charts with Logic Charts and Decision Matrices (based on the Decision Makers previous decisions in identical situations).

          Just think when I was being taught to do the above it was all pieces of paper and 3 X 5 index cards stuck to walls with pins and the pins had different colored stings on them to "connect the dots" (Information and Events). Note: If you really get into that, the Timeline no longer looks like a Line, and starts looking like a spider's web (all kinds of related events occurring).

          That, RI Mom, is why some people have more information (verified Information becoming Facts or in my career field Actionable Intelligence) than others. Also as a sad commentary on US Education, Learning to Learn is no longer taught (Cognitive Reasoning Skills, Cognitive Research Skills, Deductive Reasoning, etc.).

          PS, don't even attempt the deflection of blame game either,

          RI Mom - that was barely protected because the Republicans voted against extra security ?

          A. SOS Clinton, "Funding was not an issue". So now research what was the issue.

          B. US Ambassador Stevens Documented Requests for LTC Wood and his US Army Special Forces Specialized Support Teams to remain at Libya were turned down by who (more research for you, I already know). Remember that the President of the US is also the Commander In Chief.

          C. US Ambassador Stevens was a President Obama Political Appointee, Translation: Direct Access to President Obama and can bypass SOS Clinton and her US Department of State. If necessary (judgement call of US President) Discretionary Funding can be used without US Congressional Approval.

          D. There is quite a lot that you really need to research.

          To answer your questions above, using the actual Socratic Method (not the phony "socratic method" of Lawyers by training, to win their arguments by any means including Errors of Omission aka legalese for Lies.):

          Answer are from Unclassified sources:

          1. Who were/are the "Libyan Rebels". Who is the Libyan Government.

          2. What was the Mission of President Obama's Executive Intelligence Agency, the CIA, at Libya.

          3. What Letterhead was on the documents that US Ambassador Stevens was attempting to burn. That ended up scattered all over the place inside the US Consulate Annex Building.

          4. What caused the Demonstrations, Riots, and Violence against the US Embassies and US Consulates Worldwide. Hint: Was NOT that video (after the demonstrations, riots, and violence against the US already started).

          Good luck, RI Mom, maybe more people will learn to learn; instead of being dumbed down with spoon feeding. Your own research and answers are more valuable to you than anything someone else will ram down your throat.

          • 1 vote
          #1.49 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:00 PM EST

          Ronnie Raygun is the actual Cause of every problem we have .

            #1.50 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:31 AM EST

            david--Sitting in your mom's basement, with your bulletin board and 3X5 index cards with color coded pushpins and your obsessively collected, three ring binders full of "facts" that you have carefully, scrupulously learned and organized to graph out and detail all the conspiracies closing in around you is no way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Turn off your bank of high speed computers, unplug that direct link to Fux news that is implanted in your head and go out and play. The fresh air will help you clear your head. IF that's even possible at this point...

            • 1 vote
            #1.51 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:09 AM EST

            david--And speaking of your career field...I'll bet there's some yard work that needs to be done. The exercise ( body movement, strenuous physical activity, etc.) will do you good, give your fingers a rest. It's not a cure david, but it might help.

              #1.52 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:28 AM EST

              " Ayotte has repeatedly made the case that Social Security, Medicare and other entitlement spending -- not defense spending -- is driving the deficit and debt problems. "

              _____________________________________________________________________________

              Anyone who could look at the world wide defense expenditures and not realize that Ayotte is utterly ignorant or in the pockets of the bankers who thrive off of our insane defense spending simply is not thinking.

              We ignorantly spend/waste more on "defense" than the next 10 largest economies combined.

              .

              PS, Hey Bluelake,,,,,

              ,,,,,,,have you ever considered posting anything that is not high school mentality insults or pure trash ???????? (Try some posting facts for a change instead of constantly making a fool of yourself.)

              .

              • 1 vote
              #1.53 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:16 AM EST

              Close the Fed----I completely agree with your stand on defense spending. Wasteful is an understatement. The fact that so many in congress have a blind spot in their vision when it comes to defense spending can only be attributed, as you have have pointed out, to our politicians being in the pockets of not the bankers, I believe, but the defense contractors themselves. Money buys political success.

              I'm sorry you think me a fool with a high school insult mentality. I suppose I should have been more helpful to david, a man obviously suffering from profound Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and strange delusions of pedantry. But after reading his post to me, which I'm assuming you fully agree with, I guess I decided to be sarcastic rather than serious. I don't value your opinion enough to let your nastiness bother me but I'm sorry you think so ill of me. No...actually that's a lie...I couldn't give a rat's ass.

              • 1 vote
              #1.54 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:22 PM EST

              Bluelake

              Close the Fed---- The fact that so many in congress have a blind spot in their vision when it comes to defense spending can only be attributed, as you have have pointed out, to our politicians being in the pockets of not the bankers, I believe, but the defense contractors themselves. Money buys political success.

              _________________________________________________________________________

              There you go Bluelake,,,,, see, that wasn't so hard . And well said.

              My point on the grand scheme of things;

              The bankers OWN the defense contractors, along with owning the politicians and the media. (They who control the money supply control the nation.)

              Thanks for your thought and sense of humor. Regards.

                #1.55 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:23 PM EST
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                Comment author avatarDotties girlExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                You know who not only looks like a fool but is a fool -- Nancy Pelosi. CA deserves her. She's only outdone in the fool role by Harry Reid. You guys sure like your CRONIES.

                • 16 votes
                #2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                Dotties girl...

                So you have nothing to offer on-topic so toss Pelosi into the mix. Brilliant!!!

                • 23 votes
                #2.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:39 PM EST

                Sour grapes honey, your side lost, move on....

                • 21 votes
                #2.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST

                Dotties girl thinks it's perfectly acceptable to cut medicare for sick old people so that the wealthy can put more money in their Caymans account. No wonder effective legislators like Pelosi get under her skin.

                • 22 votes
                #2.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:00 PM EST

                lol so says the person backing a politician whos negligence caused a death...read up on her failure to keep a murderer in prison, who then turned around and killed a neighbor just days later...of course, Ayotte covered it all up. Her "fans" also act like fascist soldiers at her rallies.

                • 12 votes
                #2.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:04 PM EST

                Sheesh, now you start talking about Nancy Pelosi! You are one of those well, he did it too people. Always shifting away from the real topic.

                • 9 votes
                #2.5 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST

                The Liberals have been talking about and blaming George Bush for 4 years and now they want to stay on topic about Benghazi and then use the "stay on topic" argument when someone brings up Pelosi. I for one live in California and see the hurt we are in. Nancy should have been the ambassador.

                • 5 votes
                #2.6 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:37 PM EST

                Chip it is the Republican way vis a vis Rudy, 9/11 and a verb! When you don't know that you don't know...

                you reeeeealy don't know!

                • 1 vote
                #2.7 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:44 PM EST

                Gee Scott Fisch A

                CONSERVATIVE WANTS TO BRING UP BUSH?

                Bush / Cheney arguably the worst presidency in American history

                It was on their watch that 9/11 took place: it was Bush who failed to kill or capture bin Laden: it was Bush / Cheney who failed to destroy Al Qaida and the Taliban after 8 years of war: It was Bush / Cheney who lied to the entire world about WMD in Iraq: It was Bush / Cheney who turned a record Federal surplus
                into a record deficit: It was Bush / Cheney who created the conditions that have lead to the biggest economic crises in since the great depression: it was Bush / Cheney who failed to act when New Orleans was hit with a natural disaster; It was Bush / Cheney who destroyed Americas standing in the world

                And where was Dick Head Cheney while all this was going on HIDING IN AN UNDISCLOSED
                LOCATION JUST LIKE the WIMP DID DURING THE ENTIRE VIETNAM WAR

                • 8 votes
                #2.8 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:25 PM EST

                Bush / Cheney arguably the worst presidency in American history

                Witchking,

                How is that arguable?

                Thank God for our capitalist, Christian, moderate Hawaiian born president, Barack Obama. Let the healing of our great nation continue.

                • 3 votes
                #2.9 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:40 PM EST

                btone -

                What healing?

                All Obama and the liberals who follow him have done is divide this country so badly there are states talking secession. Financially, this country faces bankruptcy. Jobs are growing more scarce as his administration's regulatory nightmare and Obamacare kick in.

                If anything, Obama has caused much of the hurt htat this nation is in and he will have to be out of office for years before any real healing is done.

                • 7 votes
                #2.10 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:49 PM EST

                @ Dotties girl

                What you should be addressing is what I wrote above about the GOWRM letting a woman rise and stand, finally.

                Tammy-311614

                btone -

                What healing?

                All Obama and the liberals who follow him have done is divide this country so badly there are states talking secession.

                LOL....Actually Tammy, it's people like YOU who have divided this country because this particular President was elected. If he looked more like you, everything would be ok.

                • 3 votes
                #2.11 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST

                Witchking - the left leaning history channel preliminary estimate is the Bush 43 will be in the middle, possibly just above average.

                • 2 votes
                #2.12 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:29 AM EST

                “People have questioned (me): Why are you so interested in this issue? I’m very interested because frankly it’s been shocking to me how much you have to drag the information out of the administration,” she said.

                I wonder why she did not ask question of her republican friend running for office just what their own ideas were since none we ever made formal to this nation. And it is that way even now..the republican party keeps saying it has ideas but not one word that defines their ideas other than protecting their wealthy donors. All of the so called cuts they keep pushing for..just what cuts and how much to cut..is not answered..by any of the rpublican party.

                  #2.13 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:29 AM EST

                  Rumours that Kelly Ayotte had very severe head trauma when she was a baby, Bachmann & Palin had the same problem - it must run in the Republican Party !!!!!!!

                  • 4 votes
                  #2.14 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:30 PM EST

                  Obama has caused much of the hurt htat this nation is in

                  There is that alternate reality teapubs live in again. No, the hate is coming from the right. I know more than one person who has a base hate of Obama and it never comes from anything real, it is all in their moronic heads. The republicans are masters of projection yet again.

                    #2.15 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                    Witchking and those that voted for your uneducated post,

                    Ignorance is ignorance; no right to believe anything can be derived from it. - Sigmund Freud

                    Witchking - Bush / Cheney arguably the worst presidency in American history

                    FACT: The Misery Index as Report Card for US Presidents. The Higher the Number the More Miserable the US Citizens are:

                    Barack H. Obama Average 10.66 (down from 10.68)

                    George W. Bush Average 8.11

                    Witchking - It was on their watch that 9/11 took place:

                    The then Director of the CIA Bush (before becoming President (41)) built up the US Intelligence.

                    President Clinton (42) believed that the "Cold War Era" sized US Intelligence and US Military were no longer necessary, so he Gutted the US Intelligence Agencies, Chopped the US Defense Budget, and Cut the US Military to the Bone with Reductions In Forces of the US Military Personnel.

                    The Results: The US was Blind and Deaf to the Events leading up to the 9/11 2001 Attacks according to the Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendations. Former President Clinton saying, " I'm a so sorry".

                    Witchking - it was Bush who failed to kill or capture bin Laden:

                    It was President Clinton that refused US Ally Saudi Arabia's Offered Extradiction of Osama Bin Laden after the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombing. And also refused to give US Information to US Ally Saudi Arabia pertaining to Osama Bin Laden's involvement with the 1993 First World Trade Center Bombing, so without sufficient evidence to detain, or prosecute, US Ally Saudi Arabia released OsamaBin Laden. US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces (USNSWDG) attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG continually requested Presidential Authorization to Terminate Osama Bin Laden so that they could go home, President Clinton kept citing the US No Assassination Policy.

                    In 2006 President Bush Authorized the Termination of Osama Bin Laden, after Amending the US No Assassination Policy, as a Mission Failure of Locating and Capturing Osama Bin Laden. It was absolutely necessary to capture Osama Bin Laden to gain his thought processes, planning processes, etc. as imprinted on his Al Quada Leadership, for the US to preemptively interdict all Al Quada Activities Worldwide. Since 2006 this President Bush Pre Authorized Mission was Tasked to the Director of the CIA (further Delegated to CIA's SAD/SOG), Commander US Military Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), Commander US Military Joint Special Operations Command (USJSOC).

                    Harvard International Review Article, 2006, "US No Assassination Policy On The Offensive".

                    Witchking - it was Bush / Cheney who failed to destroy Al Qaida and the Taliban after 8 years of war:

                    You are correct President Bush/VP Cheney did not go into Afghanistan in September 2001; like his CIA did; nor did they go into Afghanistan in October 2001 to do this (and Obama did not suit up and go into Pakistan to terminate Osama Bin Laden either):

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arxKhJIjIiY

                    And why did Afghanistan turn into a CF (Cluster F**k) after we had already won. Simple, Afghanistan was a UN Mission, so NATO screwed up and appointed Gentleman British General McColl as the Commander ISAF Afghanistan, that had NO idea of Asymmetric War Afghanistan and only British Conventional Warfare, so he let (did nothing to stop) the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists that fled into Northern Iraq and Pakistan return to Afghanistan.

                    Witchking - It was Bush / Cheney who lied to the entire world about WMD in Iraq:

                    Iraq: President Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address demanding a US Law to Overthrow President Hussein (the counterbalance to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran):

                    Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq's arsenal than was destroyed during the entire gulf war. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission. I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.

                    President Clinton's US Law, H.R. 4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, with US Congressional Appropriations; as amended to allow the US Military Use of Force to Overthrow President Hussein, as President Clinton's Failed attempt as 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox, that resulted in the US being condemned by the Islamic World as the Great Satan.

                    President Clinton's US Law, H.R.4655:

                    http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1057063/posts

                    Witchking - It was Bush / Cheney who turned a record Federal surplus into a record deficit:

                    The US Congress "sandbagged" the US Budget with more money than he could spend.

                    THE REAL Indicator of the US Economy is the Interest on the National Debt:

                    President Clinton, $18.9 Billion

                    President Bush, $16.6 Billion

                    Kind of like your momma giving you $10.00 to buy something that costs $4.00 (including transportation, taxes, etc.), so you have a "surplus" of $6.00.

                    Witchking - It was Bush / Cheney who created the conditions that have lead to the biggest economic crises in since the great depression:

                    President Clinton signed the US Laws that eliminated the US Laws that made Illegal the Causes of previous Depressions, resulting in the current $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc.. Before you say something stup!d, if you sign a blank check (US Laws), that is on you, not the one that cashed your signed blank check (US Laws).

                    Almost forgot, to make the Mortgage Crisis even worse President Clinton demanded Loans (Mortgages) to those that did NOT have a viable means to pay back those Loans (Mortgages).

                    Witchking - it was Bush / Cheney who failed to act when New Orleans was hit with a natural disaster;

                    It was President Clinton's US Defense Budget Cuts that were also the Cuts to the Funding for the Longterm US Infrastructure Projects of the US Army Corps of Engineers like the modifications, building new, retrofits, maintenance, etc. of the Levees at New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina (US Congressional Katrina Hearings), the "Berms" aka Levees at New Jersey (recent flooding due to Hurricane Sandy), Sea Walls, Bridges, Irrigation Canals (current droughts), Dredging (current flooding and droughts), Water Reservoirs (current droughts), Dams, Beach Erosion, etc.. As these Longterm US Army Corps of Engineer Projects of US Infrastructure MUST be funded decades prior due to Required Contract Reviews (GAO, CBO, etc.), potential Lawsuits and lengthy Court Cases, Mandatory Environmental Reviews, etc..

                    Sand dunes spare NJ homes from Sandy's destruction

                    Since 1986, the federal government helped New Jersey pay $700 million to build sand walls as high as 22 feet.

                    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50136858n

                    Go right ahead Witchking do what President Obama wants and chop the US Defense and US Military Budgets, repeat the same mistakes of President Clinton and expect different (deadly) Results.

                    Federal Spending:

                    60% Entitlements

                    20% Defense

                    13% Discretionary Spending

                    7% Interest (like Loans from Chinese)

                    Note: It was President Obama spending (demanded expenditure) $2.1 Trillion that was not previously budgeted for, so he demanded in his President's Proposal to US Congress "Across the Board" Budget Cuts to all previously budgeted for Programs, Projects, Agencies including chopping the Entitlements and Benefits for the "47%" (actual 49%) to pay for the $2.1 Trillion.

                    Basically, the waitress just gave President Obama the bill for the meal that he ate and now he is looking at everyone else to pay.

                    Witchking - It was Bush / Cheney who destroyed Americas standing in the world

                    Nope it is the uneducated like you Witchking and those that voted for your post that has everyone laughing at the US. As well as President Obama's FAILED (Foreign) Policies. President Clinton's getting the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide to condemn the US as the Great Satan.

                    Witchking -And where was Dick Head Cheney while all this was going on HIDING IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION JUST LIKE the WIMP DID DURING THE ENTIRE VIETNAM WAR

                    And what was your CURRENT Draft Dodger doing, as to why even his own Home State stated he was not capable of becoming US President during his numerous Failed Presidential Campaigns. It really would have liked to have had $20,000 (back then that was like today's $100,000) to bribe a known Anti War Doctor for a Medical Deferment (why his home State News Papers declared him not physically fit to hold a Public Office, so he changed States).

                    Since you and those that voted for your post don't know squat, Witchking. Smeagol had your ring, Bilbo Baggins will have your ring, and Frodo Baggins will toss your ring into Amon Amarth. Basically, you and your evil, fear and ignorance as weapons are defeated Witchking. So ended the Reign of terror, evil, fear, corruption and ignorance of the Witchking Saron and his minions of the known World and the Middle Earth and the rise of Man.

                    • 1 vote
                    #2.16 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:42 PM EST

                    @ Scott , I personally will be blaming BUSH for the rest of my life . I am ONLY 51 so i have a minute or 2 left . I as well as many others lived through the Bush Crap . He has not been blamed yet for everything he is responsible for .

                    • 1 vote
                    #2.17 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:40 AM EST
                    Reply

                    How the heck did that article change direction 360 degrees and end up with statements about social policy and the LGBLT community? Way to go again NBC. Just rename yourself the DEMNBC already and show a tiny bit of integrity.

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                    Too simple. If you are talking about being a "star" in the GOP, you have to consider their insane positions on individual freedom to control your own body. GOP talks freedom, but that's just talk. They want to use the government to force you to follow their antiquated religious dogma. Did you not notice Mr. Santorum and all the others this summer?

                    • 9 votes
                    #3.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:38 PM EST

                    IndianRiver... did you learn to read? What was the article about? You did the same dang thing.

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:40 PM EST

                    Go -

                    Face it, the liberal attention span is equal to that of a small child and one with ADD at that.

                    • 4 votes
                    #3.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:51 PM EST

                    What is the opposite of a liberal attention span? A conservative attention span. Think about it if you can. A liberal attention span involves imagination and a progressive view to expand on the knowledge of today to build a better future tomorrow. The conservative attention span is fiercely holding on to the concepts and practices of yesterday that provided safety and shelter while determined to ignore the new threats and promises of tomorrow.

                    With your preference, we would still be living in caves cowering in fear of each new threat. We would still be in Europe instead of discovering the new world. We would still be expanding on an even more destructive nuclear bomb instead of the new space frontier that placed us decades above the civilized world in technological advances.

                    We would still be espousing centuries old religious views to deny human rights to many of our modern citizens. We would still be espousing centuries old religious views to support and defend a single small nation in the Middle East that persistently defies our many repeated attempts to establish a lasting peace in the most explosive part of today's world. We would still be trying to the turn the clock back to a day when corporate entities ruled the day with extremely unfair and very dangerous working conditions to enslave the American worker.

                    Oh, wait. The conservative views described in the last paragraph do not apply to past events. They apply to current conservative views and actions. Forgive me for my pride in being the "liberal" you so easily dismiss as a small child with a mental disorder. As far as I am concerned, you are the cowardly child still hiding behind his mother's skirts in fear of facing the real world.

                    • 5 votes
                    #3.4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:34 AM EST

                    I think Kelly Ayotte had an overdose of Sean Hannity's crap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:50 PM EST
                    Reply

                    The WI plan to stonewall investigators will be succesful with help from the media who are not reporting the scandal.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:27 PM EST

                    harold, could it possibly be there is nothing to report?

                    Could that question be bolstered by the fact that the Republican leadership including Issa are not frothing at the mouth over this because they know better?

                    Sheesh...

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                    Chippy, I'm waiting for your reply. Or do you just call people liars and move on?

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:28 PM EST

                    catlover...

                    Are you in the right topic?

                    Which question? Or should I say which lie do you want me to disprove?

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:36 PM EST

                    Are those individuals questioning the Obama response to this tragedy aware of the number of embassy/consulate attacks that have occurred? Are they aware how many occurred under a Republican administration? Since 1958, the source I found states there are 33 total, and they add this is not a comprehensive list. If the GOP would like to assure safety of our diplomatic corps, they should bring home most of our diplomats. It's a dangerous business to represent the U.S. in many countries around the world.

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:12 PM EST

                    John

                    Here is the breakdown for the presidents (shared terms combined)

                    Kennedy/Johnson ( 8 years) - 3 (.375 per year)

                    Nixon / Ford ( 8 years ) - 1 (.125 per year)

                    Carter ( 4 Years ) - 3 (.75 per year )

                    Reagan ( 8 years ) - 4 (.5 per year )

                    Bush 41 ( 4 years ) - 1 (.25 per year )

                    Clinton ( 8 years ) - 3 (.375 per year)

                    Bush 43 ( 8 years ) - 9 (1.125 per year )

                    Obama ( 4 years so far ) - 6 or 1.5 per year )

                    Here's some other nuggets.

                    1) Although Congress cut the budget for the state Department, it is the responsibility of the State Department to do the final allocating of funds in the department according to White House and the Secretary of State's policies.

                    2) More democrats voted for cutting the funds for the state department than Republicans. Republicans had about a 35 seat majority.

                    There is a stark difference in the assertions and accusations toward the republicans and what the reality is.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:58 AM EST

                    The very same applies to the civil rights votes. Care to recite those figures in the same light?

                      #4.6 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:51 AM EST

                      DB,

                      Ultimately, my point is that these attacks have occurred under the watch of both parties, and more importantly, that many of the countries that we place our diplomats in are just plain dangerous. I suspect that whether there was additional security in place or not, it would have been possible to target our people. If we want to absolutely guarantee their safety, just don't put them there. Or maybe we just have an embassy, with no additional consulates scattered about the country. Rather than conduct a witch hunt, couldn't these Republicans (and Democrats) review these policies to provide greater safety? And if that means closing embassies in dangerous places, so be it (and if we close the embassy, why don't we cut all aid to that country as well?). In this age of the internet and the communication capabilities it provides, do we really need to put people in these situations?

                        #4.7 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:54 AM EST
                        Reply

                        Obama and the boys hang her out to dry and the first comment on this vine is that KA is an idiot. I would the sneaky administration closely followed are the idiots in the this space.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#5 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:29 PM EST

                        Westguy...

                        "Obama and the boys..."

                        How so?

                        • 5 votes
                        #5.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:41 PM EST

                        English, please.

                        • 5 votes
                        #5.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST

                        He said you guy's were idiots.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:07 PM EST

                        Are you sure ozzie? I can't make heads or tails or that comment.

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:29 PM EST
                        Reply

                        Shameful & disgusting to politicize the Bengazi tragedy. Vilifying the President for one terrorist attack is beyond the pale, & reasonable Americans won’t fall for yet another Republican partisan overreaction. McCain should have spent more effort on his VP pick. Trust him on personnel matters? He’s past his prime and needs Ayotte to help. Rice was completely uninvolved, so vilifying her is worse. Political grandstanding will not help “ensure
                        it never happens again.” Everyone recognizes that’s cover. Political rabble-rousing is in no way productive to preventing future attacks. Anyone who claims that refinement of facts as they are discovered is in any way unusual has never conducted investigation and hot-issue reporting on breaking news halfway around the world. Let it go, Ayotte, before you damage yourself beyond repair to reasoable folks. Otherwise, you'll expose yourself as a complete hack.

                        • 17 votes
                        Reply#6 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:38 PM EST

                        Stevens own dad said to stop politicing this but when McCain goes on one of his crazy man rants theres no stopping him

                        • 11 votes
                        #6.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:47 PM EST

                        Stevens dad actually changed his mind on that when he didn't get answers.

                        • 5 votes
                        #6.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:08 PM EST

                        What Stevens fathers wants is not relevant. Stevens was his son but he was also a US ambassador and as such his death impacts every citizen. And investigating is not politicizing. Do you call it politicizing when the FBI investigate a murder or kidnapping?

                        • 4 votes
                        #6.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:35 PM EST

                        No, Candle, but I do if the situation is turned into a circus and used for political gain. Investigations aren't supposed to be done in the public eye and AHA moments along the way used to get votes.

                        • 3 votes
                        #6.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                        The Benghazi debacle was definitely politicized....by OBAMA himself! Anyone who doesn't clearly see that is really markedly naive.

                        • 5 votes
                        #6.5 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:21 PM EST

                        GOP Tea Partiers are obsessing about this one tragedy in the war-torn Middle East because they have destructive ulterior motives to play out, and I suspect, because they have nothing better to do but to snipe at everything in their conspiracy-mongering, and see if anything sticks.

                        So Fox News eagerly keeps giving them the microphone, so they jump at the chance to demonstrate to the world what they hate and who they fear. They want answers because condemning others at the drop of a hat gives them a vindictive thrill.

                        Thus, it's typical behavior of a bunch of sore losers trying to find faults in everything and everyone, except in themselves.

                        Just how much mileage they're going to get out of beating this dead horse depends on what captures the attention of the most verbal of these losers on any given day.

                        • 3 votes
                        #6.6 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:19 PM EST

                        Candle -

                        Why is Stevens' father's desire for answers irrevelant? Because he is demanding answers as to why no one in the White House sent the requested aid while they watched what happened for 7 hours? What about why repeated requests to beef up security in Libya were denied? What about why the ambassador wasn't evacuated when the British ambassador was?

                        As the ambassador's father, he has the right not to be lied to by this administration.

                        • 4 votes
                        #6.7 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:55 PM EST

                        For both, "Tammy-311614" and "Candle," in answers to your questions, such as: "What about why repeated requests to beef up security in Libya were denied?", I've reposted for you a previous comment I placed into the NewsVine, on #1.164 - Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:47 PM PST:

                        ---------------------------------------------------------------------

                        So the House GOP refused the White House's request for better funding for the security of our embassies and consulates in war-torn countries, because, in part -- as Mitch McConnell said, the Republican Party's number one priority was to make Obama a one-term President. Deny him and the Democrats, everything they can, even for things the right-wing agreed previously upon.

                        JASON CHAFFETZ (R-Utah) ADMITS HOUSE GOP CUT FUNDING FOR EMBASSY SECURITY: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

                        Excerpts:

                        Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

                        On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

                        "Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we're talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you're in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things."

                        For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.

                        Consulate personnel stationed in Benghazi had allegedly expressed concerns over their safety in the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed four Americans, including Amb. Chris Stevens.

                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.8 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:22 PM EST
                        Reply

                        Another Republican using any issue available to avoid her elected role (jobs!) to try to stir up emotional support among her party members to keep her in front of Fox News cameras.

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#7 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                        Another liberal unable to face the fact that his idol is an unmitigated failure and has done more to stifle job creation with his policies than any president since Carter.

                        • 1 vote
                        #7.1 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:19 AM EST
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                        IndianriverOne...

                        They have no shame. Their collective moral compass has been pointing south for years now.

                        • 9 votes
                        Reply#8 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:44 PM EST

                        More questions on Benghazi-asked and answered. This has gotten more coverage than 9/11 or the Iraq war

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#9 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:45 PM EST

                        Shooting in Oregon:

                        Republicans: "Eh, tragedies happen, we don't need to discuss gun laws."

                        Shooting in Libya:

                        Republicans: "It's a conspiracy! Cover up! Lies! Worse than Watergate!"

                        • 16 votes
                        #9.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST

                        Bingo!

                        • 8 votes
                        #9.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:14 PM EST

                        Clotho

                        Gun related crimes are 24% lower in states that have concealed Carry.

                        Nicole Simpson and her boyfriend were killed using a knife, yet there is no cry to get all the knives off the street.

                        • 1 vote
                        #9.3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:02 AM EST
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                        what a non-serious person. this is only important because fox news deems it so. a tragedy in search of a scandal merely to distract from the fact that the teabagging party is out of ideas, has been proven incompetent on foreign policy and incompetent on economic issues. these fair-weather patriots will soon be added to the trash heap of history. and, good riddance!

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#10 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:47 PM EST

                        They've got to play to their base: Ignorant and low information voters. Keep them filled up with red meat and they will continue to be obedient servers.

                        • 9 votes
                        #10.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:12 PM EST

                        Chippy, I'm waiting for your reply. Or do you just call people liars and move on?

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:27 PM EST
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                        Media whore?

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#11 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:52 PM EST

                        this woman knows nothing about foreign affairs. so why is she shooting her mouth off? is she trying to make a name for herself? if she is she looks foolish. this theng in bengazi is going nowhere. she should look to her own party. they cut 300 billion dollars for security ant these posts. i don'tknow who is putting her up to this. maybe that old jerk mccain. he is losing lieberman so i guess he needs to replace him. only 2 years in the senate means you have a lot to learn and should be quiet and watch and learn like hillary did. she may piss off her voters with this and get booted out like we did to lieberman.

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#12 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST

                        A senator who actually works for the people they represent and asks questions? How refreshing. Let her be re elected a couple times and she will be as lazy as the rest of the career hear from them only during election time Senators.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#13 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:05 PM EST

                        Questions are essential and important. Witch hunts and baseless accusations are not.

                        • 4 votes
                        #13.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:45 PM EST

                        A fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer. Ayotte is certainly going out of her way to demonstrate the basis truth of this old proverb. She is playing the fool. Valid answers are available, but she will not accept them.

                        • 6 votes
                        #13.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:47 PM EST

                        Three words- SHE an idiot!

                          #13.3 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:46 PM EST
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                          She also warned that further reductions in defense outlays would be dangerous, telling the AEI audience that no one could argue that “we’re in such a secure place in this country or without threats from around the world that we should be taking a significant peace dividend.

                          _________________________________________________________

                          I would love to ask Ayotte this quest "We annually spend around $700 billion on defense whereas China spends around $70 billion and the rest of the first world countries spend in the single digits. Why and where do you want to add more? Do you not think that spending 10X over our closest "enemy" is more than enough?"

                          I hope the media asks the above of her.

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#14 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:14 PM EST

                          This is so transparent and SAD that in the midst of our most serious fiscal moment, people like McCain, Graham and Ayotte are looking to further their political careers on the back of the four Americans who died in Benghazi. Good luck attacking Hillary, she will take you all down a notch or two and then take the White House in 2016.

                          • 11 votes
                          Reply#15 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:21 PM EST

                          What is wrong with her nose. Looks like she has a case of "Romnesia"! LMAO!!!

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#16 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:44 PM EST

                          I’ve been frankly shocked...

                          ...it’s been shocking to me

                          GMAFB! Nothing more than grandstanding to get ahead by using an easy target. Too many power lunch with McCain, on how to keep him relevant and her in the forefront.

                          BTW, do we want someone who shocks so easily having a say in this country's affairs?

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#17 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:45 PM EST

                          BTW, do we want someone who shocks so easily having a say in this country's affairs?

                          I don't know but it couldn't be worse than the apologist we have now.

                          • 3 votes
                          #17.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:04 PM EST

                          What apologist ozzie? If you mean Obama, please feel free to detail when he's apologized, and for what.

                          • 3 votes
                          #17.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:30 PM EST

                          Ozzie can't. He;s stupid and uninformed...

                          • 1 vote
                          #17.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:02 PM EST

                          I think Kelly Ayotte is a simple minded dimwit. She follows McCain and Graham around like a poodle dog. I will do everything in my power to help whomever the democrat is to beat her in her next election. She even looks stupid to me. Graham is and always has been McCain's bitch. McCain is the worst loser in history. He still can't get over losing to President Obama. I wonder why? Could it be because he lost to a charismatic intelligent black man that he didn't think was experienced enough. He looks like he is eaten up with hatred and bitterness.

                          • 3 votes
                          #17.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:22 PM EST

                          Be nice 2lib, we can agree without being petty. I prefer to call someone out, and let the record of them never responding stand.

                            #17.5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:15 AM EST
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                            Freshman trying to look like a senior is all it is...

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#18 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:48 PM EST

                            Ayotte is nothing more than another token, right wing tool.

                            She is a loud mouthed FOOL.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#19 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:52 PM EST

                            Token? BINGO!!

                            Where are the women and minorities?

                            Hey, we just had one elected recently, look, she's on committees! Look, she's calling Obama incompetent!

                            • 1 vote
                            #19.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:31 PM EST
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                            What a Bully McCain is, to bully Rice out. He left her with no choice.

                            What a bunch of cry babies that they lost this election.

                            Vote Republicans out in 2014.

                            Are you satisfied McCain, now go retire.

                            • 7 votes
                            Reply#20 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:54 PM EST

                            Damn, who kicked the liberal ant hill to get all these left leaning fruitcakes out at once? Never seen such a thing!

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#21 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:56 PM EST

                            Go on over to Fox with the rest of the crackpots.

                            • 4 votes
                            #21.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:57 PM EST

                            Heck no you guy's crack me up. I guess the only good women is a liberal women in politics. Damn the venom on display here is rather disturbing if not funny at the same time.

                            • 4 votes
                            #21.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:59 PM EST

                            Witch hunt on her from day one. I bet your cult leader Norquist will like that.

                            Grumpy old men

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:01 PM EST

                            ozzieyo...

                            Unless you look to the right , of course.

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST

                            McCain & Ayotte are being a little more outlandish, petty and shameful than usual. They don't care who they hurt to help their cause. Kinda stirs people up. Take another look and see if it does not become apparent to you that their outrage is fake and transparent. If not, look again. If not then, forgetaboutit.

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.5 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST

                            "Transparent" there's one thing this administration is not.

                            • 4 votes
                            #21.6 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:10 PM EST

                            But you are, ozzie.

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.7 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:56 PM EST

                            Thanks, ram I have nothing to hide.

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.8 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:57 PM EST

                            Dang "ozzie", you certainly seem to be vastly outnumbered by these hair-brained liberals today! Their collective hypocracy truly knows no bounds! And you're correct, these idiots are entertaining at the very least! Lmao! Sorry you didn't get your way LWAH's, and by the seemingy incessant whining on here you seem to be very upset by that fact. As the infamous Nelson Munce puts it, "Ha! Ha!"

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.9 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:11 PM EST

                            NPCDan, I think its a liberal holiday or something?

                            • 3 votes
                            #21.10 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:22 PM EST

                            Sorry you didn't get your way LWAH's

                            We didn't? Took more seats in the House, AND we took more seats in the Senate, AND we retained the White House by more votes than BOTH of W's wins combined!

                            • 1 vote
                            #21.11 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:33 PM EST

                            And yet, still are whining and crying because your almighty bho didn't get his lying liar even nominated as s.o.s.? You'd have a better chance at arguing with a kindergardener than with a leftist liberal. At least the child could blame his/her lack of knowledge on their age, whereas liberals haven't a leg to stand on.

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.12 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:23 AM EST
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                            Are you happy Brown, that the 3 Amigos bullied a spot for you?

                              Reply#22 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:56 PM EST

                              Senators Ayotte, McCain--We know you really just want Kerry out of the Senate to give Scott Brown another shot and to help GOP numbers. Not gonna happen. The "scandal" is a complete fabrication. Even most Republicans I know will admit that. The ones that get onto this board and follow the McCain/Ayotte nonsense either don't think or they don't care. This is the most transparent fake outrage in a long time.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#23 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:56 PM EST

                              just simply a few "bumps in the road", right?? Why don't you tell the families of the deceased that their deaths were only a "fabrication"???

                              • 7 votes
                              #23.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:27 PM EST

                              Sure, deaths of family members are bad. But the fact of personal tragedy is irrelevant to the placement of blame or justifying McCain & Ayotte's reprehensible grandstanding.

                              • 2 votes
                              #23.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:37 PM EST

                              Perhaps you should look up the definition of "reprehensible". Here I'll give you an example, "I found Ambassador Rice's Sunday morning parading by the Obama administration, and subsequent dumping to be reprehensible.".

                              • 4 votes
                              #23.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:14 PM EST
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                              Why are Obamanites so anti-women?

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#24 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:08 PM EST

                              Thank you, Mitt. You can use your own name now.

                              • 3 votes
                              #24.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:18 PM EST

                              Because they are a collective bunch of reprehensible sexist jerks. Not to mention racists!

                              • 3 votes
                              #24.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:16 PM EST

                              We're not anti-women, we're anti-stupid.

                              Why aren't the Republicans anti-stupid? That seems to be all they can call their own any more.

                              • 2 votes
                              #24.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:34 PM EST

                              Are you really THAT clueless HopeisGone? Democrats are not anti-women, we are instead anti-women-in-binders like you. We like to keep them out, not closed up in a binder.

                              • 1 vote
                              #24.4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:14 AM EST

                              NPC -

                              With the way that the liberal political women look and act, can you blame them for being anti-women?

                              • 1 vote
                              #24.5 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:21 AM EST
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                              The difference again between Repubs, and Dems.

                              Susan Rice sacrificed her career so Loud mouth McCain would lay off the topic so the President can focus on other things.

                              Repubs only think of themselves and noone else, just to get what they want.

                              The Repubs stop at nothing.

                              Vote them out 2014

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#25 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:13 PM EST

                              Susan Rice sacrificed her career so Loud mouth McCain would lay off the topic so the President can focus on other things.

                              Translated: "she threw herself under the bus so the president can totally sweep this under the rug once and for all."

                              • 4 votes
                              #25.1 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:17 PM EST

                              Ozzie, you guys work so hard to blame Obama for virtually every bad thing that happens. This one illustrates how far you go. There is no way that the attack or loss of life was caused by a personal failure of the president. Can't you see how silly it looks to attack Rice and Obama personally over this? The whole world can. Even Rupert can see that, but his interests are not consistent with truth and balance.

                              • 6 votes
                              #25.2 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:33 PM EST

                              How is not coming forward with the truth in fact telling a lie not a personal failure?

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.3 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                              Well, they're dead at the national level, and that's the issue with the Republican Party. They are out of power, and are acting like pit bulls. McCain needs to check into a nursing home. He is such a bitter old man, it is pathetic. He has such anger issues, it is pathetic. But then again, he always has. If Issa wasn't sniffing up Rice's crotch before she bowed out, there was nothing there. You Repubs are so dangerous, in office and out of office. More dangerous is Fox Fiction Network. Hope you Repukes blow yourselves up in your rages.

                              • 5 votes
                              #25.4 - Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:37 PM EST
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