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Subscribe to RSSPresident Obama is expected to address right to work laws today, while speaking in Michigan. Mich. State House Democratic Leader -Elect Tim Greimel discusses lack of transparency by Gov. Rick Snyder and state legislature in run-up to right-to-work vote, how the bill will hurt unions and wages and the likelihood the bill will pass. Greimel calls the vote "slap in the face to democracy."
Updated 7:39 p.m. — Republicans stand on the cusp of delivering a major blow to organized labor, as they prepare to vote Tuesday on legislation to make Michigan – a state linked to unions in the public conscious – a “right to work” state.
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About a dozen members of the Michigan Nurses Association stand on the state Capitol steps in Lansing, Mich., Monday, Dec. 10, 2012, protesting right-to-work legislation.
State lawmakers are expected to approve legislation barring rules in workplaces that make union membership a condition of employment. The offensive would mark the culmination of efforts by Midwestern Republican governors to curb labor rights in the heart of industrial America, where unions once loomed large.
President Barack Obama led Democrats on Monday in a counteroffensive, hoping to stymie Republicans in control of Michigan’s House and Senate, who could act as soon as Tuesday to approve right to work legislation after approving initial versions of the proposed law last week.
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“These so-called right to work laws, they don't have anything to do with economics. They have everything to do with politics,” Obama said in Redford, Mich., where he had planned to travel well before the labor fight erupted last week. "What they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money."
But Republicans maintain commanding majorities in Lansing. And Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has said he would sign the legislation if it reached his desk. With that, he would become the latest Republican governor to be elected in 2010 in a Midwestern state to advance legislation meant to curb labor rights. A familiar battle, which played out with such intensity in other states over the last two years, has now found a new epicenter in Michigan.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker memorably pushed legislation through his statehouse that stripped public employee unions of their collective bargaining rights; his initiative prompted a recall election, which the Republican survived in June. Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s similar effort to curb bargaining rights was only halted when voters reversed such a law through a ballot initiative.
But Michigan Republicans might now succeed in passing a right to work law, a favorite proposal of conservatives that isn’t even on the books in Wisconsin or Ohio. Snyder, who had previously said that seeking such a law wasn’t on his agenda, may now preside over one of the most striking symbolic blows to organized labor in some time.
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“I think he's defaulting on his responsibilities,” Michigan Democratic Rep. Sander Levin told NBC News on Monday. “It's a cave to the radical right.”
Levin was among the group of lawmakers who met on Monday with Snyder to plead with him to veto the legislation, or at least delay a vote in the state legislature. Absent that, Levin said Democrats want Republicans to change their proposal to allow for voters to repeal the law through a ballot initiative, as voters did in Ohio. The Michigan law is coupled with an appropriations bill that would exempt it from a popular vote challenge.
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“I would have a very difficult time seeing that get changed,” said state Rep. Marty Knollenberg, the chief sponsor of the law in the state House. He contended that the appropriation provision is necessary to help implement the law.
In short, opponents of the Michigan proposal would have little recourse available to challenge the law in the immediate future, making its impact on a union-heavy state like Michigan even more pronounced.
“I think the Republican strategy in doing this so quickly is that they don’t want what Wisconsin had, dragging on for so many days,” said Bill Ballenger, the editor of the influential “Inside Michigan Politics” newsletter. “This is a blitzkrieg, and Republicans hope it’s going to be over and done with tomorrow.
While Republicans in the Michigan Capitol had long pined to advance this law, it languished until after the election. In November, the state’s voters rejected an amendment that would have added a right to collective bargaining to the Michigan state constitution. Amid rumblings that the GOP leadership would resurrect the proposal, it was brought to a vote in the state House and state Senate before organized labor and Democrats were effectively able to mobilize.
Democrats have now turned their attention toward Snyder, who had styled himself as a kind of pragmatic Republican who avoided the ideological trench warfare of his fellow partisans, in halting the law. According to congressional Democrats, during a meeting with Snyder the governor said he took their concerns “seriously,” though they’re less optimistic privately that he’ll reverse course.
Organized labor groups are organizing a “day of action” on Tuesday in Lansing, including a march to the state capitol that will likely invoke memories of the tens of thousands of activists who flooded the state house in Madison, Wis., during the height of Walker’s legislative battle in 2011.
But Knollenberg said he “can’t think of anything” that would prompt him to back off the legislation. Moreover, Knollenberg suggested it’s state Republican lawmakers – rather than Snyder – who are driving the effort.
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“It certainly started from the legislature, and then it was presented to the governor,” he said.
“It wasn’t on his priority list, as he indicated,” Knollenberg said of Snyder. But once Republicans had gathered adequate support for the proposal, Snyder “adapted his beliefs and saw that this was a real opportunity to put Michigan on the map in terms of creating jobs.”
And as the law’s passage seems more like a fait accompli, Snyder, if nothing else, will join the ranks of Walker and Kasich. All three will be seriously targeted by Democrats and organized labor in 2014, offering a chance for voters to render their verdict on this trio of Republican antagonists.
For their part, Democrats warn that the toxic partisanship that took hold in Wisconsin and Ohio would now spread to Michigan.
“Instead of Michigan united, it becomes Michigan divided,” Levin said. “We’ve gone from a bipartisan effort to deepening partisanship.”
Alternatively, it could enshrine Snyder – a former business executive who postured himself as “one tough nerd” during his 2010 campaign – as a darling of conservatives who wish to further put unions on the defensive.
“For the state, I think it's absolutely monumental,” said Stu Sandler, a Republican consultant in Michigan. “It's the most significant piece of legislation in decades, and sends a very strong signal about the direction the state is heading.”
Warned one senior labor official, "If this bill is signed, it's going to be Thunderdome between now and 2014."
Knollenberg argued his legislation is only about providing opportunity to the state’s workers.
“I just hope that at the end of the day … the unions will then have to sell their story as to why they’re benefiting the workers,” he said. “I believe that if they can demonstrate their value to their workers, they’ll do fine. But they’re going to have to work for it.”
Update: Not all hope was lost for supporters of organized labor, who believe they would be able to use a citizens initiative under Michigan law to eventually challenge the right-to-work law. Under such a scenario, if labor supporters could gather a higher number of signatories to a petition, they could force a vote to undo the law in 2014. However, the new right-to-work law would be allowed to take effect in the meanwhile.
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I just love, how, somehow, winning by 800k out of 120 milliong cast, is a ringing endorsement. 50.3% to 49.7% against. Obama and the Dems need to wake up. They didn't win by much, and there are a lot more red states out there. They won the more populous liberal cities that were all broke and need money. That's pretty much it.
The bad thing is that all the states that have the right to work bill, are the lowest paying states in America. They also have a large increase of welfare recipients.
Exactly bdesigner.
bdesigner--sorry, but you are a prime example of people who draw slanted conclusions from statistics.
the low paying states most consistent statistic that affects that is the one that points out that most of those states have a higher than average MINORITY population, most with low education success.
California is NOT a "right to work" (for less) state; it has the largest percentage of minorities of any state (non-Hispanic whites are now the minority), and it has a lower percentage of its population on welfare than the national average.
All the Tea Party and Republicans have accomplished is more hate for them, and in 2014 they will be crushed, the final nail in their coffin for good. Governors are on the list too. Unions Are Here To Stay. I never in my life saw such a bunch of greedy me, me, me, whiners in my life as these Republicans and Tea Bags. Oh well enjoy the ride, the train is about to come to a halt soon, you just don't learn. LMAO
No, we are pretty happy with the Whitehouse, actually.
Tax cuts for rich folks, wage cuts for poor folks.
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hesfailing, I think your skull exploded and your brains fell out.
Funny how the whacked out Liberals find nothing wrong with paying the Unions each month just to keep a job. What does the Union make? NOTHING. What business did trhe union start with their own money? NONE. Why should they get any money at all? They don't do the work and they didn't put up the money to start the company. They are like a leach. They just just suck the money out of the worker and the company without having to produce anything. Funny how businesses go broke (think about Twinkies) or send jobs overseas to be able to compete in the business world.
Unions aren't businesses. They are non-profit organizations formed BY THE WORKERS THEMSELVES to give them some measure of equality in dealing with their employers.
Unions are old pigs from a bygone era that need to be put down permanently (and I'm a liberal Democrat....trouble is, Im a thinking one). I have seen them from both the inside and outside, and they are highly destructive to individulal moral and acheivement, and spend most of their time viciously attacking one another, or their company with "I'm going to the union to GRIEVE this....this being someone in management hurt my feelings, made me do more work than joe blow who is at the same pay level, or didn't give me the additional money demanded. And the product they deliver is usually vastly inferior to non union shops which encourage indidvidual acheivement and being pleasant to customers. Go to a Post Office in Connecticut, or the Department of Moter Vehicles and you'll see what I'm talking about. Nastiest bastards around. Unions are now (didn't used to be 50 plus years ago) counterproductive to EVERYTHING!!
In California, initiatives for a so-called "right to work" (for less) law have been put on the ballot three times, and each time, beginning with Proposition 18 in 1958, despite massive spending by business and anti-union interests, the measures were defeated.
The union workers in MI should come together and shut down the entire state,No Trucking,No electric power,No public transportation.The Republican party has not learned that they are on the wrong side of the people and will continue to try to suppress everyone that does not agree with their methods.Unions helped build this country and gave the workers the right to bargian for wages and benefits.Without them the workers of this country would still be working for minimum wages,no overtime pay,unsafe work places,no vacation time,no limit as to age requirements such as child labor.That's just to mention a few things that American workers did not have back in the early 20th century.If thats what Michigan wants then just allow your Governor to get away with this BS.But just remember their will be another election and what goes around comes around. Don't let the Republicans and the Koch Brothers rule your destiny
In Total Agreement James C. Brancaccio. Unions need to have a nationwide strike, shut it all down for a month or two, see what happens.
Be careful what you wish for. The air traffic controllers tried that back in the 70's and Reagan fired them all and hired new ones. The airlines never skipped a beat.
There are millions of good workers who would jump at the chance to do your job for half of what you're doing it for now.
During the Great Depression when building the Golden Gate bridge, there were guys standing in line waiting for the next person to fall and get killed so that they might get the job.
You union workers (of today) should at least think about these facts before talking about shutting down the country.
Fact: Workers in "right to work" (for less) states have lower average wages than do workers in states that do not have such laws.
That's because they are "stick up" men, who hold the company at gun point (strike threats) to pay them more than the product they are delivering is worth.
Hmmm....where to begin???? I am a UAW member & NO we do not make $45/hr.....benefits have been restructured, pay increases nonexistent, bonuses limited.....WAIT!!!!! We also gave up certain perks to help the company (Ford) stay afloat during last economic down turn....without being laid off. Pertaining to UAW mgmnt....Mr. King DOES NOT make millions nor does he live in a mansion!!!!!! He came from the line and worked his way up the ladder to where he is now. I cannot speak for the other unions out there or the Teamsters....but here at Ford & the UAW, we work as a team (for the most part). YES, there is bad apples on both sides of the fence....others who definately want an US & THEM mentality in the work place. The previous members from long ago suffered terrible working conditioons before the UAW was excepted by Mr. Ford to be allowed into his company. I thank those of long ago for getting what we in the UAW enjoy today (most mentioned in an earlier statement). So....would you rather work for a company that does not VALUE you as a person or work for a company that looks at you as an asset to the company???? Going back a few yrs...Pres. Reagan signed into law a bill that gave employers the right to fire employees for no REASON....let me say that again..."NO REASON"...I know, I worked for such a company. Pertaining to the post about unions wining & dining senaters/congressmen/representatives.....THE UAW supports a candidate that is in favor of HUMAN rights & the support of the middle class. Whether they are repubs or demicrats (we have supported both parties at one time or another)....so yes, there is criteria for whom is going to get the support & $$$$ from the UAW during election times. Come on people...you want info???? Seek, ask, do your homework!!!!! Don,t be like the 98% of people when they go to vote, vote by what someone has said instead of facts and figures!!!!!!
The reason you guys had to tke all the "cuts" is that your pay, for the work you actually did, was way over what that service was worth. You guys artifically made putting a nut on a bolt, a $20.00 per hour job, rather than the $3.50 an hour job it should have been. But the pronlem was, you weren't smart enough to shut up at that point, and be happy with your extortion. No! The power of holding the company hostage anytime you wanted, to get even more for putting the nut on the bolt, was too much for you so you kept on making out of the world demands for down to earth skills. Unions got drunk with power and used it the wrong way for the wrong reasons, and in the last few years that has cone home to roost.
Michael,
Who do you think you're kidding?
Ford employees loaded labor rate in 2011 was $54/hr
While Volkswagen LLR was $38/hour. Most major auto manufactures feel in somewhere between.
By the end of GM's present contract their LLR for Teir 1 employees will be $64/hr. Most Doctors don't make that much.
Even Obama's car czar Steven Rattner has admitted that the UAW should have made larger concessions on wages and that doing so would have substantially reduced the cost of the bailouts.
Some facts and figures you missed.
Well Fred....YOU are some what misinformed!!!! FORD did not take a bailout!!!! Like the t-shirts and bumper stickers state "FORD : made without your tax dollars". Whom do you work for???? I can get info you're not privy too....$54/hr.....standing joke at work you baffoon!!!!! They calculated that number with figures from bonuses, profit sharing (when we get it), base wage, what insurances cost....etc. etc. etc......So, that number costantly changes every contract year!!!!!!!During the recent economic crisis, we at Ford had 3 COA's that were voted on....2 passed, 1 failed. Chrysler and GM took bailouts, workers gave up alot more than we did at Ford, to try and keep their companies afloat. Oh yes....and the UAW now has a VEBA that is taking care of our insurances....saving companies millions in $$$$$$$.....the cost of the bailouts was decided on what was needed to pay suppliers, offer buyouts, buy materials to produce vehicles, and restructurings.....Both companies got a bonus. Pay off loan early, save on interest owed.....both did!!!
Well I guess you almost understand what a LLR is. I suppose you think it's your take home pay?
It may be a standing joke to you and your lug nut tightners at work but it's not a standing joke to the taxpayers. It's a fact! Look it up.
What makes you think that GM and Crysler paid back their bailouts? I think you should do some research before calling people names who don't agree with you.
I worked as a contract telco outside plant engineer for 12 years up until 2007. The highest wages I recieved were $28/hr......no retirement, no benifits, no vacation days, my own vehicle everything! Designing and drawing into Autocad for blue prints, plus many data bases to know and understand.....as for for crews to build.....totally turnkey! That's what you might call highly skilled work. There was never at any time to smoke some pot or beer for lunch.
Yes, taxpayers like us paid to bail you out. If you think there's a little anamosity toward your attitude among us, you may just be right..
You and your buddies at work are a freekin standing joke to people who actually work a lot harder for a lot less.
Yet, I'd rather go home at night knowing I did a hard days work for a lot less than having some union boss telling me how much or how little and how fast or how slow I NEEDED to work. It takes about 10 union workers to do what five nonunion workers can do in a day.
Like I've said, I've been on both sides of the fence......so don't BS me.
BTW I know Ford didn't take a bailout. That's why I'd still buy one.....never another GM or Crysler product.
If I'm hearing it right, this "Right To Work" legislation pass by 53% vote in the November election. Like it or not the PEOPLE have spoken.
Look at what a union helped do to Hostess. now they are done No Jobs, just collecting unemployment. Sad. Also the word "Rights" is always misused by the news media when discussing this issue. It is not a Right as guarenteed by any constitution.
Right Mac, look what the Hostess CEO criminals did with union pension funds. These criminals need tried, chained, and jailed....
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hostess+pensions&form=msnhpm
Virginia is a "right to work "state...and the last time I looked,Mr President, Virginia's unemployment rate is down below the national average, the economy is booming and our Governor is a Republican by the way. Don't quit understand why Virginia went with Obummer though......kind of an oxmoron....meaning those that voted for Obama are MORONS!
That's funny, because here in RI, our governor is a flaming liberal (and moron), our legislature has been overwhelmed with democrats for decades (and crooks) and our economy is, well, in the toilet is putting it mildly. Coincidentally, the state is run by the unions, wow what a surprise.
I long or the day when we can get some leadership that will fight for the rights of taxpayers instead of for union leadership, but we are far too blue and far too gone to expect that to happen.
Conversation actually heard at a union shop: "Hey Sally, did you GRIEVE that issue with mangagement yet? Which one, Jim, I have 4 greivences going against different people for different reasons. I've got the company so afraid of me, I basically can do whatever I want when I want, and what I want to do is constantly file GRIEVANCES with the union. HA, hA, HA."
"So Sally, you're actually getting paid, not to do your job anymore, but to be a full time complainer?" "You goy it, Bucko!" This part of the conversation I made up, but it probably happens every day.
Well Timm McCain read this.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hostess+pensions&form=msnhpm
Want to really make a different, work for yourself. I know it's well known by the power mongrels this scenario would simply not be acceptable. Laws and taxes are ready to be brought to the front lines should people get any mis-conceived notions of going it alone. Lets support those who are honest.
BTW people....the President won by the most ELECTORAL COLLAGE VOTES.....not by the most popular votes. Response to previous comment made about unions being voted in...that is correct!!!! I have seen both sides of the coin (non-union vs union), and I definately prefer UNION. Better pay, holidays, vacation, benefits, SAFER working conditions, and last but not least...PEACE OF MIND!!!!!!!!
So you prefer unsustainability? Let me ponder that notion over my twinkie.
Stair, President Obama won the popular vote as well.
Hostess used up all the union members pensions money for other things, but yet the CEO's get their money. See what happens with these greedy bastards. Corps and Business are out for one thing themselves and their CEO's . Enough is Enough.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hostess+pensions&form=msnhpm
Yes those poor workers that wouldnt allow hostess to not pay them a paid holiday on their birthdays, yep that is so reasonable.
Read the dam post
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hostess+pensions&form=msnhpm
I dont read articles from fake "news" sources like the huffington post, sorry. If you pay attention to a thing that waste of print says, then there is no reason to expect any sense from you.
No where in this article does MSNBC mention that the voters of Michigan just voted against the Unions sponsored amendment to the state's constitution making it a right to have closed shop unions. This was defeated 57% to 42%. That is about the same margin that voters gave Obama over Romney.
MSNBC is a liberal rag, they dont care about those 57%, those are the taxpayers, liberals dont care about taxpayers. Taxpayers to liberals are just a revenue source for their expensive, controlling ideas.
Spending Union members pension funds. These bastards need to be tried, chained, and jailed. "Right To Work" my ass. A sham and scam to be able to pull the same crap as Hostess did. Unions All The Way Baby. Enough of these so called educated Business and CEO types. They are just like their brothers on Wall Street, Gangsters and Criminals that need tried, chained, and jailed.
Simple solution there bucko, dont have pensions. Just like 90% of the people in the country. Let me guess though, youve worked in the public sector in a blue state your whole life, so you dont have any concept of reality.
Unions all the Way trudat6445. End of Story.
So i am right, thank you for proving who you are, a blight on the taxpayers.
America 2013
A people more accepting of government control in our lives than having control of the government
To all union members just a quick question. Most of you are complaining about members of management and how much the CEO makes etc. etc. etc.... How much does your union president make? Still working the line are they? How about the union rep or the shop steward? being paid by the company and the union....how many of you have union retirement benefits? where is that money invested? hopefully in companies in the United States.... Do you want your retirement account to have excellent returns on investment.??? That means those companies must do what companies are supposed to do.......here it is that dirty word PROFIT. even if you don't want to admit it if your retirement plan, 401k etc. is to give you a healthy return so you can retire and quit working for slave master owners, the companies have to be profitable. oh wait if you are invested in companies that makes you ( wait for it here it comes) an OWNER. by the way your union president and other officers, secretaries, and reps... get paid because you give up some of your hard earned cash in the form of mandatory union dues.......do you get to decide how much you pay or is the amount set by those that PROFIT from your dues.........
The union brainwashing propaganda doesnt cover any of the questions you asked, all that matters is that union members get paid when they dont work, that is all they care about.
hope Osama,i mean Obama does more for you in Michigan than he did in Indiana when we got the right to work for less bill. my guess he is just showing up to push his fisical cliff agenda.and he has to take a trip everyday also and spend more of my money.here is my gripe with unions. i belive if you dont want any of your dues going to a political party it should be stopped but you can not do this without being forced to quit the union,this is wrong and nothing more than being forced to support a political party that you do not agree with or support.
They got these cute little sayings like "work now, GRIEVE later". Apparently there was a time when a worker could just bring things to a virtual halt himself, if he felt AGGRIEVED. So then they agreed that they will at least continue to do their job (more or less, and quite begrudgingly), and take up the "issue" of being looked at sieways, later on in a forum that is not destructive to the production of the goods and services that pays the lazy ingrates their salary.
My buddy works for the state, when he started the job he was actually told by a supervisor that he is doing too much work and could have a grievance filed against him.
That is what unions do, they tell you to do less so that the people that should be fired dont look bad.
Never happened. You're lying.
trudat...happens ALL THE TIME. Unions are the anti-christ to productivity and civility!!
Sorry, but it did.
"tru"dat....
Bull ****. Only inside the mania of a right winger is this true.
What a stupid, oversimplified statement. So in your brain, you actually think unions sole purpose is to advocate for bad workers?! That is idiotic. What a union actually DOES do is make sure there are rules in place so a business, if they want to fire someone, have cause to do so....the big problem that I've seen is that management often does NOT do the proper job of documentation to make their case. It then appears like the union is 'protecting the bad worker' where it was management who was at fault for not creating their case WHY they should fire someone.
I don't know of one union where a bad worker is protected from being fired....if management does their job, those protections just don't exist.
I never said that, i know unions sole purposes have become; to collect dues, and to pretend they are still relevant. What i said is that that is what unions do, in fact you quoted my post and yet werent smart enough to see that i never claimed that was their sole purpose, god boy, leart to read.
trudat...
I better leart to read......(sigh)
Try something for once...make a logical argument. Does 'Company A' have an easier time or more difficult time screwing their workers in a union shop?
I know plenty of non-union employees that seem to be doing just fine. But is company A more likely to go out of business being forced to be unionized?
I am amazed....actually astonished at the level of stupidity and lack of history some of the people on this message board have. The right wing has done very little correctly over the years, but, one of the things they were very effective at was somehow telling workers that the people who advocate for their rights are the bad guy....and the dimwitted dolts shake their heads yes. Somehow in their minds the CEO who takes a million dollar bonus while the company is downsizing is okey dokey, but, the guy in the plant advocating for an additional vacation day is evil?!?
There are so many things that we take for granted now that were attributed to unions....the 40 hour work week, vacation pay, child labor laws were all a result of what unions did as a result of fighting for workers' rights.
The only leverage a worker has with their employer is numbers......do I agree with everything that unions have done in the past....no. But, to attack the tradition of labor in Michigan or anywhere in the US is simply unAmerican. Again, this is just another example of the GOP that sees it absolutely fitting to restrict people's rights when it suits their needs. Small government?? Give me a break.
Giving people a chocie to not be in a union is "restricting rights"??? Seriously, what planet do yuo liberals live on?
trudat....
Someone can choose not to be in a union by not applying for a union shop job. Plain and simple. But for a union to effectively operate, there are certain rules that have to apply, otherwise it creates logistical nightmares. This is EXACTLY why these laws get put into place....it has nothing to do with a 'worker's rights'.
Most are not as brilliant as you oh great one
The law allows workers the choice to participate if they want to, not be forced to participate if the union is present
Take momma a pamper
Is anyone really surprised?
Republicans work for the Top 1% and the Top 1% is dedicated to looting every penny of wealth from the bottom 99%.
If this were 1776, Republicans would be calling the founding fathers socialists and pledging their loyalty to the King of England. The only thing that has changed is that the new "nobility" is the Top 1%.
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Being anti-union is being pro-taxpayer.
Can tell your a true democrat, You better go back and read your history our founding fathers were republicans, hated unions & organized religion, grew hemp for export and were against slavery, I bet you probably even think that Lincoln was Democrat, sorry to bust your bubble he was a Republican & Republicans freed the slaves, are you so stupid that you can't see that Democrats are still Slave owners, people like you, welfare recieptients, checks for Baby makers, union members, you people are so blinded by the lies and media Bull @!$%# you can't even see the damn truth right in front of you own eyes, you better wake your ass up & get on path cause you have no clue what the republicans have done for this country and the damage the Unions and democrats have done to destroy this non-communist country.
Right!!! Let's go back 4 years or so and see whose is bigger.......I have unions advocating for worker's rights and higher wages while the anti-union side has a banking industry that crashed the world economy, cost the US over 10 million jobs and trillions of dollars.
UNIONS are the bad guys??!? Pure, utter stupidity.
Your boy obama took a lot of money from those banks, as did all of the democrats who ran for office. So what is your point again? That unions extorting money from taxpayers is good because politicians are willing to bail out banks for donations?
Yep that makes a lot of sense.
You still rate up all your own posts? I thought youd grow out of that in the 9th grade.
WTF?? Was that a knee-jerk reaction.....when in doubt, rip on Obama?!?
Explain how a union fighting for their workers is "extortion"? Seriously...explain that to me.
Unfortunately, the true crooks on Wall Street have caused infinite more damage to our economy than any union has for God's sake. Where are you nitwits on going after Wall Street? I'd love to see you go after these folks with the same vigor you go after unions....but the GOP hasn't done diddly...as a matter of fact, they have fought FOR these same evil doers. You
LOL, you are such a tool, stating a fact is now considered "ripping on", im sure my statement was racist too in your little liberal mind.
You really are such a blind child, keep supporting your unions, ill keep supporting taxpayers.