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Charlie Crist, seen with his wife Carole, announces on Twitter that he has joined the Democratic Party.
Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist announced on Twitter Friday that he has joined the Democratic Party.
Crist was first elected to the governorship as a Republican in 2006. He ran for the U.S. Senate as an independent in 2010, losing a three-way race to Republican Marco Rubio.
Crist’s tweet read:"Proud and honored to join the Democratic Party in the home of President @Barack Obama!"
His message included a photo of him holding up a Florida voter registration application with his wife, Carole, next to him.
Crist signed the papers changing his affiliation from independent to Democrat at a Christmas reception at The White House, according to the Tampa Bay Times.
Crist spoke at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte that nominated Obama for a second term, and had campaigned for Obama's reelection in Florida.
A message left for Crist by The Associated Press wasn't immediately returned Friday night.
Crist, 56, is viewed as a potential Democratic challenger to Florida's Republican Gov. Rick Scott in 2014.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Proof is in the pudding and the easy part's done. Time to get to work on democrat business.
Dollars to donuts good ole Charlie switches again before the 2014 mid-terms.
This guy is an embarrassment to politics.
But then again our whole government is an embarrassment to politics.
I dunno, Obama is in the midst of proving himself as an accomplished politician. You've got to admit, he's got Boehner running around and around not knowing what to do next. Generally, that's known as check-and-mate.
Good for him. He was always too reasonable to be a Republican. As the Republican Party gets crazier and farther out there, anybody with any sense at all will abandon their sinking ship.
Crist was a moderate Republican trapped in a Republican Party that was becoming increasingly batch-it crazy. He was a member of a party in which moderates are being hunted, hated, demonized, derided and demonized as being "Republicans In Name Only" (RINOs).
He didn't ultimately leave the Republican Party. The party left him. It all but threw him out bodily.
Yes, 6 trillion in Debt, more people on welfare and dividing this country. I agree he has accomplished a lot.
Charlie Crist's pronouncement has put him once again in the spotlight. Keep watching, boys and girls, the show is just beginning.
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That's what tends to happen when you start two open-ended wars in two different countries while refusing to raise the taxes to pay for them, as George Dumb-Oh Bush did -- you go trillions of dollars into debt.
News flash, wars are not "self-funding", they do not "break even" and they never, ever "make a profit".
Also, wars are not fought by the "pweshus and speshul pwivate sector", they are fought by things called "governments". And governments are funded by things called "taxes".
Bush bragged that he "never raised taxes", so instead of sensibly raising taxes to pay for his wars, he went around the world borrowing trillions of dollars from foreign governments by selling U.S. debt instruments, conveniently forgetting that the money he borrowed would eventually have to be paid back with interest.
Charlie Crist is very 2000's.
The future of Florida politics is Senator Marco Rubio.
Tell Obama to seat down for a change and stay put at the White House at least a couple of weeks at a time and try to DO some WORk: the election is over and we need a -sit-in president, not a fly-by president! The guy is in perpetual campain mode...FoCOL (For Crying Out Loud!)
Another Dino?
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When Boehner heard of the switch his comment was "There is a great disturbance in the Force"
That's 16 Trillion in debt and the reason it is so high is because of President Bush and his 2 unpaid wars he dumped on President Obama while also giving everyone a Tax break on credit card paid for by China. Also GOP Republicans have blocked every positive thing President Obama has tried to do for the economy and people out of work. Even so, every year Bush was in office there was a loss of jobs and every year President Obama has been in office, there has been an increase in jobs. So the only failed President I see is Bush. By the way, President Clinton inherited a mess from Bush Senior and handed Bush Jr a ballanced budget and a good economy. Bush Jr. handed President Obama a failed economy, 2 wars unpaid for, bursting bubble, and everyone that is on welfare. President Obama is turning all that around so that the next Republican President can screw it up again.
You do realize that the President can be in one place and do something that effects things clear accross the world right? They invented cell phones and conference calling you know! If your so worried about the fiscal cliff and all, maybe you should tell Boehner that he lost and President Obama won so the people voted that they want it done President Obama's way, not Boehners. So Boehner needs to deal with that and not hold the people hostage by not passing the the Bush tax cuts for the middle class and poor. He needs to start doing what he was elected to do by the people and not by the rich. Basically BOEHNER is the one who needs to start getting SERIOUS.
and the horse you rode in on:
You are so right about it being time to get on with Democrat business--- time to learn how to lie, cheat, steal, and sell out our great country!
He is a known waffler, a has been and I doubt he can beat the current loser republican governor that Florida now has in office.
Welcome aboard Governor Crist! We're the good guys :)
Reps used to love him, now they hate him....so fickle
THe Right Wing Extremist in the Republican have wrecked their party...even the leadership knows this, thats why they are taking them off important committees, why Jim DeMint cut and ran, why they lost the election and seats in both the house and senate (Legitimate rape...Are you Fing kidding me?), why they drove the more moderate wing out to the detriment of the party.
Why they drove me out.
It is simple...
stop the bigotry against blacks women gay people
stop protecting the very rich (FYI I am in the top 1% easily)
Stop pandering to the so called christian right (Who are not christians at all)
Stop trying to limit voting with draconian measures
Stop creating demons...for instance it is not Muslims, it is Extremist that are the problem.
Realize that everyone needs a chance, the best opportunity they can get.
Then maybe you will be relevant again.
Crist will probably go after Rubio again, and without a split vote (and Rubio's tea party record that he's acquired) likely win...
Once you graduate High School and start working, you'll realize what a boss and workers are. The President has people who know how to do their job better than Obama does. They report to him, give him suggestions when he needs it, and otherwise run the country for him. Worst boss in the world is one trying to micromanage. The guy can be on Air Force One any where in the world and do the exact same @!$%# he could do in the Oval Office. Right now he's bouncing around trying to build pressure on the Republicans to get us past the fiscal cliff bullsh*t.
He's doing exactly what I expected him to do when I voted for him.
No, brenda. The reason why we are $16 trillion in debt is because both Republicans and Democrats are pointing their fingers and blaming it all on the other party while both sides continue to appove trillions in spending and debt creation. I am so sick and tired of this charade. Either hold your own party accountable or shut the hell up.
Just a reiteration of what Chris from Yucaipa said. A good boss is a guy that is in the middle of it all and not one who sits at his desk all day.
And they said the kickbacks were better on the Republican side. Guess this puts the lie to that one.
@notsosmart, well the name certainly fits. A 3rd grader could beat the current governor and thief in office. He's the most hated governor in the country. As far as Rubio, well Florida is still waiting for the other shoe to drop. Between the sex scandal and the inappropriate use of campaign funds, it's a toss up as to if he will even be relevant.
Middle-ground politicians tend to gravitate towards the ascendant party. I seem to recall a couple of defections from the Democratic party a few years ago. Now, we are seeing a Republican jumping ship.
Are there others thinking of switching sides?
But, the pendulum always swings both ways. Today the Republicans are looking [and no doubt feeling] like the political equivalent of the Dodo Bird. But are nation hasn't seen the absolute demise of a political party in generations, and I don't see it happening to the Republicans.
We got rid of Charlie once....and we will do it again!!
Gov. Crist handpicked Jim Greer to head the Florida Republican Party. Despite multiple calls for Mr. Greer’s resignation by fellow Republicans, due to extravagant spending at the party’s expense, Gov. Crist defended Mr. Greer. Mr. Greer is now facing six counts of grand theft, fraud and money laundering. He is accused of secretly setting up a shell company, Victory Strategies, and signing a deal that would give Victory Strategies 10% of GOP donations – a deal that Gov. Crist allegedly approved.
Prior to serving as governor, Gov. Crist was the state’s attorney general. As attorney general, Gov. Crist was criticized for failing to investigate those with whom he had political or financial ties. First, he failed to investigate state contractor GDX for leaking the personal information of 100,000 state employees. GDX had been subcontracted by computer company Convergys to index electronic personnel records but when GDX outsourced the job overseas, the personal information of up to 100,000 state employees may have been exposed. Convergys had close ties to then-Attorney General Crist. The company had hired his advisor as a lobbyist and was a donor to the Republican Party. Attorney General Crist dropped the investigation.
As attorney general, Gov. Crist also failed to fully investigate boy-band mogul Lou Pearlman. Mr. Pearlman, who ran a $300 million investment scam, was eventually indicted by federal authorities and pled guilty of fraud, conspiracy and money laundering charges. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison. A lawsuit brought by investors claimed Gov. Crist and Florida regulators knew about the scheme but turned a blind eye for four years. The suit alleges Mr. Pearlman got a pass from the then-attorney general because he had donated at least $12,000 to Gov. Crist’s campaign.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/crookedcandidates2010#Crist
NY Times takes down Charlie Crist over Everglades-U.S. Sugar deal
http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2010/03/08/ny-times-takes-down-charlie-crist-over-everglades-us-sugar-deal#.UMMrueTAfqM
Those plans have been revised since then, with the state reducing its purchase of U.S. Sugar's land to 72,800 acres for $536 million. But according to a blockbuster story written today in the New York Timesby investigative reporters Don Van Natta Jr. and Damien Cave, the state and Governor Charlie Crist were suckered into an awful deal that is "rescuing the fortunes of U.S. Sugar", but setting back the plan of fully restoring the Everglades.
The story, coming in at over 4.200 words, is critical of Crist, and the state's Department of Environmental Protection, for paying way more than they should have for the land.
But internal district documents revealed that the land had been overvalued by the two firms that performed the independent appraisals. Both relied on figures from 2004 to 2008, when a speculative real estate market had prices soaring.
Jeff Greene Bashes Charlie Crist on U.S. Sugar Deal
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/jeff-greene-bashes-charlie-crists-us-sugar-deal
Crist announces scaled-back deal to buy U.S. Sugar land
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-0401-everglades,0,3807183.story
This is the second time that economic reality has forced Crist to scale back his ambitious plan to buy out U.S. Sugar, originally envisioned last summer as a $1.75-billion, 187,000-acre transaction.
Taxpayers in the water district's 17 counties -- including Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade -- will pay for the deal.
Miccosukee Tribe attorney Dexter Lehtinen, who has long championed Everglades causes, said the cost of the new deal still threatens to set back Everglades restoration 15 years.
Lehtinen called the scaled-down version a "bait and switch" from Crist's first proposal in June to buy all of U.S. Sugar's assets and move sugar cane farming out of the way of Everglades restoration.
"I'm flabbergasted that just to get (his) name on a press release the governor will torpedo Everglades restoration," said Lehtinen, who was part of a legal challenge to the previous deal. "This thing stinks from one side to the other."
...and the horse you rode in on., the word is "Democratic" Party. Without the "ic" in this context, you are using it incorrectly like the Republicans do on purpose--as a slur. It is yet another way tell that the person who uses it that way either has little education, or is a corporatist and has no honor, both of which describe the Tea Party, most congressional Republicans, a few of the Blue Dog Democrats.
Charlie Crist has something that doesn't fit well in the Republican Party of the 21st century ----
Evidently there is no hope that the RepubliCON Party can recover from the insanity that it has driven itself into. Crist was the only Republican left that I would consider voting for. It is a loss for the country not to have 2 SANE political parties, but the Repubs rather be Far Right than sane.
WELCOME, Gov. Crist!
Here's to hoping Jon Huntsman and Chris Christie are next...
OK, that might be a stretch, but at this pace, every single reasonable Republican is going to leave the party.
God is on our side, Dem's side!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome aboard, Charlie, more good news for the Democratic party...
...in a matter of 2 days -
1. Jim DeMintia quit Senate;
2. then even Christ joins the Democratic party, God is on our side!
AndresTM. Huntsman and Christie cannot remain in the Republican Party. Both of them have to much sense for the Republicans. Both of them are for every American, unlike the Republicans. I always said that it is a good thing that the Republicans did not nominate Huntsman, Obama would have had some real competition. I honestly do believe that it is NOT a stretch for Christie and Huntsman to Become Democrats.
Christ has always been a Democrat ... compassionate, caring about the poor, and walking on water, as opposed to Republicans who walk on oil. But Christ first tried to stay neutral, to be politically correct to attract more believers. But the GOP has done so poorly, drinking too much Tea, even Christ has decided to come out of the closet, and join the Dems.
With the loony Republicans going so far to the right Jeb Bush will be next to become a Democrat. There is no way Jeb will get the Republican nomination for president with the TEA nuts like DeMint and Norquist leading the way. Even Chris Christie has little chance now with his hug of Obama. To refresh everyone's memory that was the knock on Charlie Crist by TEA nuts here in Florida. He had the audacity to shake Obama's hand and hug him for the stimulus money to save jobs of police, firemen, and teachers at the low point of the recession.
I might add that the Republicans blame Charlie Crist for Obama pulling Florida in the 2008 election. He allowed people to vote and that didn't sit well with the Republicans here in Florida and across the nation.
1- when the GOP is so far right, there is no way moderate republicans can make it...
2- our government needs to get back to work..... 31 days since election..... 23 days until cliff.... and nothing has been done... and that's on both parties
3- every time the GOP gets embarrassed, some azzhat tea partier gets on here and blames the ENTIRE debt, deficit, and lack of congressional work, and economy entirely on Obama.... you guys can't be that stupid, can you?
4- Gov Scott has screwed up the state of Fla so bad that there is no way he can get re elected... none.... a chimp can beat him:
-he removed insurance regulation and homeowners insurance has doubled.... they can raise 15% every year without review
-he killed PIP law and now people who get hurt cant afford medical care after a car accident....
-he waged a crazy over compensating war against medical practices where he removed all HIPPAA protection and 4th amendment protections... any law enforcement officer can now, without warrant, enter any medical facility at will and examine the records of that facility and whatever they choose to seize they can do so... think about that
-he's trying to circumvent medicaid....
-hes blown a bunch of the unbalanced budget on numerous lawsuits between the state, citizens and the federal government...
Charlie Crist will almost certainly be back as governor...
anything is better than what we got when the AVERAGE household family of 4 insurance bill for health / car / homeowners / flood is $2400 a MONTH... no food, rent, car payment, clothes.... thats just government mandated insurance in Fla.... $30k a year that we are REQUIRED to buy... it's the Matrix in real life....
it was less than half of that when Scott took office and bent over for his corporate buddies... it's like Russian government politics... somebody gets elected to state office... all his buddies get to fleece the peasants
fxck Rick Scott
Even rats are smart enough to leave a sinking ship :)
I made the change in '86 and nice to see that Crist took some time, but finally wised up. The extremes to which this republican pile of crap has moved is just disgusting and why can't so many of these right wing nuts see that they are backing a party of the extreme right with no compromise or negotiation and no interest in helping America and Americans only the rich and Norquist!
As I'm reading through these comments, I'm reminded of a joke I once heard. Well, it was presented to me as a joke. It's actually a factually based true story. The joke goes something like this, A little boy asks his dad, "Dad, do you have to take an IQ test in order to vote?", The dad replies, "No son. Tests are not required to vote." The little boy asks, "What happens if only dumb people vote." The dad quickly replies, "Well son, then the democrat wins."
As I'm reading through these comments, I'm reminded of a joke I once heard. Well, it was presented to me as a joke. It's actually a factually based true story. The joke goes something like this, a little boy asks his dad, "Dad, do you have to take an IQ test in order to vote?" The dad replies, "No son, tests are not required to vote." The little boys asks, "What happens if only dumb people vote?" The dad quickly replies, "Well, then then the democrat wins."
Welcome aboard Gov Christ! Will he be the next Governor or Senator? We'll have to wait and see. Either way a Democratic pick-up! Keep up the great work Repukelicans, push the Repubs with brains in our direction. Keep your brainless stock, please!
AHarryReid
I was told that same Joke! Only the parties were reversed so turn about is fair play! I've heard it as "What if only rich people vote, add 2% to the story today? You get an aristocracy just like Bonehead wants! I'm still waiting for the proof that there is such wide spread voter fraud. ? We have 10 cases in a decade here in Wisconsin , yet the governor (Wacko) wants to prevent same day registration where 270,000 registered and voted in November. Voter suppression much! Rule of the rich and republicans? At least isn't that what they are trying all these changes for? Let their rich friends buy the elections and keep middle and lower class voters out. Like Romney's campaign aide said, "We got the types that counted!" Greed, arrogance and stupidity. No wonder Crist became a Democrat today!
The Republican's threw him under the bus because he wasn't right-winged and radical enough for them. Why wouldn't he change parties? To be a Republican today one must march in goose steps and give a heil Limbaugh wave or you're out the door.
clwyd-2621393, First, clever screenname. How long did it take you to think of that? Secondly, your reply is what poor people say; which, actually supports my first statement/joke. Basically, the more intelligent you are, the more money you make. Case in point, the VAST majority of 2 percenters are Republican.
The majority of republicons are tax evaders too. What are you going to do about your AMT going up?
The Democrat Fisherman
A woman in a hot air balloon realizes she is lost. She lowers her altitude and spots a man fishing from a boat below. She shouts to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."
The man consults his portable GPS and replies, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
She rolls her eyes and says, "You must be a Democrat!"
"I am," replies the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," answers the balloonist, "everything you tell me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you're not much help to me."
The man smiles and responds, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replies the balloonist. "How did you know?"
"Well," says the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but, somehow, now it's my fault."
Dream like you will live forever; live like you will die today.
Crist's true affiliation is only to himself. Like Arlen Specter, Christ will changes parties (Republican, Democrat, Independent) at the drop of a hat, whichever he thinks will serve him best. He sees party affiliation only as a means to further himself both politically and financially.
MilkTit, tax evasion is illegal. I believe what you are attempting to reference is that the 2% pay a reduced percentage of income versus the middle class. In actuality, those paying the reduced percentage make up less than 1% of the 2%. In order to eliminate this misconception about the 2%, we need to raise the capital gains and dividend rates to personal income rates. Better yet, we should implement a flat tax for everyone. I would have a lot more confidence in our economy/society if those not paying any taxes made some sort of contribution. That would make too much sense though.
MilkTit, I almost forgot to thank you for providing additional support to my original statement with your incorrect generalization. So, thank you.
aharryreid. Man you sure know how to open yourself up for a hay maker. First of all, Not all pour people are stupid. Unless your in the Tea party. More times then not, people with a collage Degree can't walk and chew gum at the same time. They are given the better Jobs just because they have a peace of paper that said they passed a test. It is truly stupid to give a high paying job to some just because of that. And the funny thing is most of the time the Degree isn't even in line with the job. Then these same guys have to go to the people that don't have a degree that has learned by coming up trough the ranks and can do every job in the place and ask him how to do the job.
And less talk about stupid people. The Reps have gotten people to vote for tax breaks for the rich, that let the rich pollute there drinking water, air, land. Talk about stupid. These Tea party people are un educated people that the Koch Brothers can lead around by the noise. A guy with money can get these people to do anything for them and give them nothing in return. That shows how smart the Rep/tea party people are. As long has they can have there guns they are happy. They go to church and are told what to do there also. Rep's are lemmings and nothing more. As we just seen, they will follow there leaders right over the cliff.
I for one welcome Charlie Crist to the Dem party. I welcome any other forward thinking Rep that shouldn't be a Rep to the Dem's. For these are the people that know what is good for America. They know it was the Rep's that put us in this mess in the first place. They know the people that lost there jobs and had to go on Welfare are hard working Americans that lost there Jobs because of the So called Americans that would rather invest in Communist country's to make a quick buck rather then invest in America. As long as they can get slave wages they will go there every time. So we Real Americans need to stop buying things from over seas and buy American and put our country first.
Looks like the Country is going "BLUE" for the Better !!!!!!!!
Chuck, your response and the content of your response supports my argument. You are obviously bitter you never obtained a degree, or more than likely, you determined early on that you are not smart enough to obtain a degree. Two year degrees or technical schools do not count. I applaud you for making that determination. As for the content, I'll address one point. I think the rest of your response stands on its own to substantiate my joke. IF the republicans influenced everyone, including democrats, to vote for tax cuts for the rich, you are easily influenced and incapable of thinking on your own. Obviously the dumb people turned out to vote. Obama is in office after all.
Charlie governed as a Democrat in Florida anywho. Glad to see him come aboard. Rick Scott has got to go.
Patriotic, welcome to the USW. United States of Welfare
On another note, wouldn't it be interesting to know the average IQ of those who voted for Oblama as opposed to those who voted for Romney??? Early exit poll estimates were about 25-30 points - guess in whose favor?
AHARRY, can you write a post that does not condescend others with hidden insults?
Your entire post is nothing more than a slap in the face to another contributor.
Well hjack, I know the IQ of those close to Romney was hurting, especially after reading all of the stories about the liberal media polls being way off.
guess what? They weren't.
I wonder how many votes Romney got simply as votes against Obama? Had he not gotten those, the landslide would have been heard around the world.
Another point, those with good IQ's would not have voted for Romney, as he never provided much in the way of details. He was also a huge flip flopper. I too would love to see the average IQ of voters from both parties. the way the GOP candidates kept putting their foot in their mouths, it is obvious that something is lacking in that party.
sorry arthur - rubio is just as brain dead as the other reich-right-wing-religious NUTS in FLORIDUH!
At least they managed to boot out that idiot WEST
Patriotic. I am starting to feel like these people are starting to do what is good for this country and not just what is good for the people at the top. Americans are sick of the Rich trying to buy the elections. This election show that clearly. Now if we can just get all the money out of politics. We would all be better off is all elections were public funded. Then we would have a Representative Government again. We could get Congress to do what WE THE PEOPLE want done Not what WE THE RICH want done. Sure the rich have the money to spend, But we have our votes and I for one will never sell my country out so Charles and David Koch can make $4 billion more in profits this year. We can stop them like we did this year. Now we have to stop them state by state. Koch's Own WI and they think they are going to Own Michigan. But not this time.
I can't resist, I have to point ONE other thing out, it's poor people, not pour people. Pour refers to a flow of something.
Ajax, my apologies. I did not intend for my insults to be hidden. I will be more forthright, that basically means direct, in the future.
I hate people like this. He couldn't win as a Republican, He couldn't win as an Independent so now he's trying Democrat. I doubt he is really embracing the Democrat's platform. He's simply looking to further his own political job. These kinds of people are the low of the low.
There is no longer any room for logic, compassion, equality, or individual freedom in one of the major political parties. It is no surprise that another one switched sides.
Hey, Chris from Yucaipa @ comment #1.36
What rats, you are talking about...I hope it's not 'Democ-rats' (pun intended). Please have a sense of humor. Don't be mad at me, my fellow rats - I mean - Democrats.
All you guys that can't wait to cast aspersions on Crist should take a good look at the A hole you put in instead.
Crist will likely be the next governor of Florida.
Flip flop Crist is the quintessential proof of a phony politician not worth anything. Especially his word does not count for nothing.
Now he's crawling up Dumbamas arss.
Democrats have a big tent open to all or nearly all. "Give me your tired, your poor, etc...", that poem resides on the Statue of Liberty and is the unofficial motto of the Democratic party... Do we really need to add the words "Ex-Republicans." or is implied enough?
Another day and the loss of republican to the Democrats. Also, another day and another 1% gain for Obama in the approval rating on the FOX Poll. (from down 4% before the election to up by 11% today! Keep it up republican'ts you will lose big if you refuse to negotiate or compromise on the taxes for the rich! the party that has become a mouth piece for only the rich and top 2%! Losers!
One thing you can say about the rwnj's, they don't do things half way. They are full fruit cakes and nothing changes their stupid ways.
AHarryReid, your name or mine? Mine is Welsh for Wales and I learned it as a youth from my grandparents on the Welsh side. Not the Seig Heil from the German side that I think best describes the republican party today and its extreme move to the right!
Ray in Jax, I think you and everyone else know where the voter IQ numbers apply. For an example, can you say 'Detroit'?
clwyd, WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. I was referring to your screenname. My screen name is a play on Harry Reid's name. It's funny. Get it? Oh hell, probably not. As far as your comment regarding the 2% being losers, I agree, we lost the election. If you are saying we are losers in general. I would have to say that is counter intuitive, oh wait, I mean an oxymoron, sorry, it is the opposite of what most would think. For those of you that took the time to prove my point, thank you. You all did an outstanding job. I need to get ready for a party with a bunch of other 2 percenters. It should be a good time. Hope all u dem o crats have a grate day.
Hi jack the joke is on you. The smart people voted for the President. The Exit polls showed the Smart people vote Dem. Not so much for Reps. Now we see the Smart once Rep's are becoming Dem's. Smart Rep's that will no longer just do what the Koch Brothers tell them to do are coming over to the Dem's.
I can't help wondering if Charlie Crist is just another Joe Leiberman, just a political opportunist.
Uh, Harry, it's "great", not "grate'. "Grate" refers to reducing something to fragments by rubbing it against an abrasive surface. Oh, and thank you for explaining to us that forthright is a synonym for direct.
If you're going to be so consistently condescending, you should proofread your comments.
I will tell you one thing A Harry. My parents didn't have the money to send me to collage. Out of seven of us kids only 2 of us finished High School. I worked for GM for 10 years and always had the highest paying jobs where I worked. One Thing I got tired of is being called to Engineering to Solve Problems the " Smart people with the Degree couldn't" And I mean this guy was so smart that his hair hurt. But there is one thing you can't learn in Collage. Common sense. People that never ever worked with there hands and made a living with there hands can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Sure they can take a test and look very good with books. But they can't solve a problem for @!$%#. If these guys are so smart, then why did they come to me to solve problems they went to collage for? Some of us build things and some of us steal things Like your man Mitten. What did he learn from collage? How to steal from working people. But the smart people didn't fall for his lies and it is driving people like you crazy.
Emmygee, I know how to spell great. You probably didn't catch the part where I put u versus you. It was a "hidden" insult implying democrats are dumb. You are welcome for your teaching lesson regarding forthright. Hopefully you learned from it.
Chuck, LOL. I KNEW IT. You are union because you wouldn't be able to keep a job without the help of your gangster cohorts. Also, my wife and I both paid our own way through school. Nothing was given to us.
Clinton/Crist 2016 !
I just went back to FOX to laugh like I usually do, but now I'm smiling. Obama up another .4% to 11.4%. That is 1.4% today 1% yesterday, 1.5% the day before! You right wingers just keep making me smile more each day with your stubborn stupidity!
AS HarryReid,
Just before you start attacking me, without knowing a thing about me before you blindly attack, I wanted to let you know I paid my way through Voc. Tech. School and transferred to a 4 year college and earned a BS Degree ( N0 student loans, but working at a bank paid for it! while a student), Went back and got my MS Degree after 6 years and now have gotten stuck at +28 credits toward my Doctorate. Because of age I've decided that is far enough at my age. Nobody gave me anything even though good old Mitt told today's youth to just have Mommy and Daddy pay for it! Right ! ( Like most middle class families could just run to the bank a write a check like he could!) So out of touch with reality is the right and most of your posts are likewise!
A hary reed/I am so pleased that Your thought processes are good enough to know that only the better educated have the highest i.Q .'s Also that your assumptions that one joins a union because one can only retain their job by doing so.I am sure that Judges, Doctors ,Lawyers e.t.c. would agree with you. Oh you don't know that they are in a union? A rose by any other name
Listoire, you are correct, I did not know judges, doctors and lawyers are a member of the union. Can you enlighten me as to what union I am a member of since I am one of the above. I am not aware of a single colleague that is a member of a union. Furthermore, I never stated only the better educated have the highest I.Q. However, there is a correlation between level of education and I.Q. Thanks for playing.
ASSharry: The joke is on you again. I never once called the union in 10 years to fight my battles. Not once. I earned my way. I was paid just under $50 K for my idles to save money and make the line run better. I have the Respect of my foremen and all the Managers in the plant. The Unions never did a thing for me. Something you don't know is I started my own business in 1986 and ran it until 2007. During that time I was a Rep, for a while. I voted for Reagan and HW Bush. But then I remembered the Golden rule. Something your were never Learned. For all the money I made, I wan't happy. Having all the money and no friends, well that wan't the way I was raised. And I don't mean just by my parents. Where I lived everyone was your parents. We all watched out for one another. If I ever did something wrong, My parents knew about it before I got home. One think I learned is you can't be an honest business man in this country. I learned to play hardball and dirty. I found myself acting Like Mitt Romney and didn't care who I ran over to get what I wanted. Thankfully God Stepped in and I was Rear ended while waiting to make a left hand turn. The lady was doing 55 when she hit me at a stand still. I was laid up for 3 years. Lost everything and had to start all over with nothing. However I never let myself get like I was again. So you set back and joke all you want. What have you done with your degree? Who so you work for? I would like to know if you have ever done a honest days work in your life. Have you ever put your life on the line while doing a job? I say this to you. If you have never worked one day in a factory, you have no right saying a bad word about those of that have. Because Big business does not care a bit about the working men and women that work for them. They could care less weather these people are safe or not. All they care about is keeping that line moving, at any cost. That is why there is a need for unions. Not everyone can stand up for themselves. After about 9 1/2 years I had enough of doing the Engineers Job for half the money. I got tired of people that didn't know how to do what I do, telling me how to do my job. I remember one day, we had just had to change foremen. So this new guy came to me on his first day and started telling me how to do my job. I handed him the tools and told him to show me how it was done. The Stupid Redneck couldn't do. But he had a degree, in stupidity. I guess you can be to smart for your own good.
"hjack" said:
Patriotic, welcome to the USW. United States of Welfare
On another note, wouldn't it be interesting to know the average IQ of those who voted for Oblama as opposed to those who voted for Romney??? Early exit poll estimates were about 25-30 points - guess in whose favor?
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'hijack',
How would you explain this, then?
Nobel Laureates Back Obama
Nearly 70 Nobel Prize-winning scientists lend their support to the President’s re-election.
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/32921/title/Nobel-Laureates-Back-Obama/
And as for the neurological and physiological differences between Conservatives and Liberals:
Differences in Conservative and Liberal Brains
16 peer-reviewed studies show liberals and conservatives physiologically different
Excerpts:
Reliance on quick, efficient, and "low effort" thought processes yields conservative ideologies, while effortful and deliberate reasoning yields liberal ideologies.
Liberals have more tolerance to uncertainty (bigger anterior cingulate cortex), and conservatives have more sensitivity to fear (bigger right amygdala).
When faced with a conflict, liberals are more likely than conservatives to alter their habitual response when cues indicate it is necessary.
Bright minds and dark attitudes: lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice through right-wing ideology and low intergroup contact.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22222219
Aharry: If you are a DR. or An Attorney then you most likely belong to a union. You don't call it a union. But most likely you belong to the AMA. Hell the Attorneys have a very strong lobby. Both of these fight for you, trying to stop caps on law suites and Dr. for Caps. Its just a matter of what is best for you. I Will be the first to say unions screwed up. Like the Reps they learned and are changing. You just have to look at The NRA. That is a Union. Make no mistake, It just happens to be a union for the GUN makers, They all belong to it and support it. Look what they have done for us. I do not agree with everything the Dem's are for. I like some of what the Rep's use to stand for. But not that the Tea part has taken over the Rep. party. Witch is to say the Koch Brothers have taken it over, well I have nothing in common anymore. And Harry, If you are Dr. or an attorney. What have you done to help your fellow man? My Dr. Gives me one med. That pushes my sugar # up, and then gives me another to bring them down. Big help. I know several Attorneys personally. They can spell really good but if they couldn't practice Law they couldn't get a job in a Self serve gas station. I had a Customer tell me that once and I have sense learned that he was right. I truly hope if your a Dr. That you are a good one. I hope if your a Attorney. That your a good one. I know I was a very good Builder.
Harry,
My screen name is Clwyd. It is Welsh for Wales! I had wanted to use the name of the town I taught in in Wales a few years back. Here it is. If you don't believe me just do a search and put in Llanfair and it will appear. Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerrychwyrndrobwll-llamtysiliogogoch! "Church in the hollow of white hazel by the rapid whirlpool of St. John's by the red cave!" Is makes sense!
Crist is gonna announce next that he is an Independent, or a member of the Bull Moose Party, before the elections after he finds out what the Progressives stand for.
Ido,
Please just tell us the truth that you and the repulbican party are going to rename themselves the "National Socialists Party of Do Nothings Except for the Rich"
Anyone noting this blog for Crist . Unlike most here, I live in FL.
I supported Chiles (D)
I supported Martinez(R)
I supported the smarter Bush (R)
I supported you (R)
I voted against our current Governor . He is pathetic in comparison to the afore mentioned.
I will vote for you as a (D). You were a excellent Governor .
You see, thats not what the angry (R) party doesn't get. They are not a fraternity, or religion, why act like it???
People who vote for the quality of the candidate (the hated independents) , the Republican party is losing.
Your insults, screaming, constant stupid commercials, emails easily exposed as lies, and threats won't get those votes back anytime soon.
hjack-Patriotic, welcome to the USW. United States of Welfare
On another note, wouldn't it be interesting to know the average IQ of those who voted for Oblama as opposed to those who voted for Romney??? Early exit poll estimates were about 25-30 points - guess in whose favor?
Wrong there. Under College Graduate,the figures were 50% Obama,48% Romney. Under did you attend College,was also 50%-48% for Obama.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls
Nope, it was clearly directed at the sinking ship otherwise known as the SS Teapanic.
Anyone who adheres to basic Arithmetic, and understands Science, well enough to know, consuming beans will likely bring about farts later, cannot be a republican today. Such, are too damn smart. Now, if one believes in the strengths of conjuring, contrived imaginings, and enjoys the aroma of bullsh^t, then there is a natural republican of today.
Proud? Of what?
I'd like to know myself!
Just another politician with NO core beliefs! Now pandering to a different crowd! He should be sooo proud! Decided to move in with his "Homies"! He can now talk out of the other side of his mouth-oh wait, he's been doing that his whole career!
He does have core beliefs that is why he made the changes he has made. He could not sell his soul like so many on the extreme right find easy to do
Hey, Charlie Crist...
If you fall in love with the Democratic party, more unidentified women will fall in love with you.
In ChRIST We Trust...
Blue is the Core beliefs of most Americans !!!!!!!!!!!
Reading some of the mean spirited right wing posts on this vine today is a reminder of why Charlie Crist joined the Democratic Party.
I say Good for Governor Crist, he has shown us that he cares about the citizens of Florida and all American citizens. The Republican Party he leaves behind is not the Republican Party we all grew up knowing. The new GOP is controlled by self serving extremists and big money special interests and no longer represents the wants or needs of the American people.
I hope this is just the beginning of Republican defections. There must be many Republicans out there that can't stomach the extreamism of the new Republican Party. I hope they jump ship and join us Democrats in restoring the things the greedy Republicans stole from us, Americas strength, honor and vitality.
May the "Greedy Old Party" die a slow and painful death.
Guess he wanted to try all the flavors or politics or he is a fair weather politician.
Not the first conversion I've seen. I'm skeptical.
That's another "half &half"...politician! He too, devolved...
If he could be either Republican or Democrat, how could he represent either?
...oh yeah, they're the same...
I think we will see many more defections as more and more people what to stand up and do what is right for there country and not just what is good for Koch Industry, Walmart and others like them. Walmart has always been sucking on Government's tit. They pioneered the hire part time only, Let there workers live on welfare for there Insurance. Let the government help them pay there rent. Keep them in poverty and never let them make it the middle class, While we at the top keep all of the money. I have stopped shopping at walmart because of that. In Michigan we have a Michigan based company that thinks its good business to take care of there workers, Because there workers take care of them. Who would have ever thought of that.
I hope we see more Rep's jump ship and get off the gravy train of the Koch brothers and start do represent there people again. I just saw how much money Koch's spent trying to get there man elected in Michigan. Didn't work. I say we 53% as it turns out should boycott Koch Products and hit them where they hurt, in the wallet. But this post will never be published because I said that.
Chuck, I doubt missing your welfare income would be very impactful to Walmart.
hjack,
Your hateful and uneducated statement about people you know nothing about and try to insult with your ignorance makes me thankful we are becoming wiser to the extremes of the right ! Get in touch with reality!
chuck-2111043 - See, you DID get it published. Just one thing - please use "their" instead of "there" - eight times....people take statements more seriously that way.
Just goes to show that Politicians are dumber than the people who elect them.
I say we abandon political parties completely, ban them all. This group think nonsense is not good for the country, and it's not good for the electorate.
Ok, you go first.
Just what Fla. needs another gay in politics. He has always been aRino. Glad he left the GOP. Don't need idiots like him.
The extremists have driven the moderates out of the Republican Party. Pretty soon, every rational person will be a Democrat, not because they're liberal, but because they're not insane.
Oh, Leona... I feel the warm stylings of that tea billy Christian love... toxic.
The GOP is toast. The idiots in congress are doubling down on suicide.
He finally came out of the closet.
With a tan like that, he had no choice, did he?
He didn't leave the GOP. The GOP all but threw him out. He is a waffler. He took Obama's stimulus money and used it to shore up his state's budget when he was Florida's republican governor. Looking back he hurt Obama just like many other has been republican governors. I won't vote for him again, ever. He claims he never raised Florida's taxes. He raised all kinds of FEES and added many we never had on the books. He is a stuffed shirt.
"The GOP all but threw him out. He is a waffler"
Here, I declare....end GOP as we know it.
He should feel more at home given his sexual orientation.
Congrats to Crist for joining a political party that won't be extinct in ten years.
stew fair:
Oops, you misunderstood. Crist just did join a political party that will be extinct in ten years. Obama will be the death of the democrat party and liberalism!
True that. But then again so will the Republican party and the US so what's the point?
We put our faith in Crist.
When I read the right wing republican posts on this vine, I have to ask myself; What exactly do they find so appealing about a political party that is disfunctional, greedy and Un-American?
Congrats to Crist for joining a political party that won't be extinct in ten years.
Dem is so attractive now, even Christ has decided to join us.
America NEEDS a third new major party ! Dems & Reps are destroying Middle Class America !
Ok, you go first.
"Go first" at what?
Maybe this is what the Mayan Calendar is all about.
You could do the same thing by adding a "NONE OF ABOVE" option in the voting options.
Of course the corporations that own us, wouldn't like that. Their money might have less effect. And we might actually have Representatives again.
Proof..that if you still possess your soul... you can change. Smart move Charlie! The tea billy GOP is imploding slowly but surely... and they offer NOTHING for the American people!
leftward bound:
Just keep chugging that Kool Ade, dude.
FERN why do you extremist Reps constantly use such childish terms.
Kool Aid
Gubmit Cheese
Etc
Grow up
Just so silly.
@Frankly: Maybe because they are feeding themselves from it?
FranklyTrue... Ssshhh. We don't want them to know. Their mating call is how we know them to be rabid and, hence, avoid them. If they learn to hide their crazy talk, they might be able to sneak up on us. We know how THAT ends up.
Christ has always been a Democrat.
OR
The text under the photo is correct. This is Mrs. Crist seen with her husband.
Everyone knew this was coming and no doubt he will probably run against "he's a good boy, Rick" with little trouble.
Thank you I was just going to ask if she was his wife or unidentified. Journalism at it's best! /sarc
Maybe he decided to make sure there was only a two-way race in 2014, rather than running as an Independent again??? As far as I'm concerned, I agree with Baldman. I've been a GDI since 1969. Of course one way to fix the problems with our federal elections, and you could try to get a similar amendment to your various state constitutions, is for every citizen to get active in the Popular Amendment Movement and help petition for a Constitutional Convention to pass the two constitutional amendments posted at www.faircampaignreform.us. I've been promoting this since I helped some other Newsvine posters and other concerned citizens develop these two amendments back in July/August 2010 and I am the sole funder of the website as my contribution to the cause. PAM is a total grassroots organization, with NO national organization, NO fund-raising, NO wealthy backers. Get involved today and maybe we can change our federal elections system before the 2014 /2016 elections. It sure would be nice to have only a four month-long campaign season.
Petition for US Constitutional Amendment For Election Reform
We, the undersigned US citizens, duly registered voters in our respective states/territories, do hereby petition for our state to approve the following amendment to the United States Constitution by the method noted below.
Election Reform:
1. Abolish the Electoral College (Repeal Amendment 12)
2. ONE NATIONAL primary date to be held on the Tuesday eight (8) weeks prior to the General Election day for Congressional offices and for the President. Candidate petitions must be filed with the local/state elections boards 60 days prior to the Primary Election date. Federal election petitions shall be uniform in every state and shall include a “contract with the voters” that spells out clearly what that candidate stands for on all issues that they may have to address in elected office. They shall be held accountable in court for breach of that contract if elected and any/all terms are not met.
3. NO campaigning allowed for any elective federal office more than 60 days prior to the National Primary Date.
4. NO campaign contribution shall be donated to any candidate of more than $200 from an individual or $500 maximum from a family (spouses/children living in the same household.) No donations shall be made to a candidate more than sixty days prior to the primary date. No candidate shall contribute from their own funds more than 60% of the total donations from other private individuals.
5. NO campaign contribution from any PAC, corporation, union, non-profit organization, special interest group, etc. shall be allowed for any elected federal office.
6. NO third party campaigning (separate PAC ads, corporate ads, etc.) for/against any candidate shall be allowed at any time during or before the election season.
7. NO party conventions shall be held to select the presidential candidates. The selection must be done at the ballot box in the primary election.
8. The One Man/One Vote Supreme Court ruling shall be enforced by this Amendment, namely that NO federal candidate selection shall be by any means other than the ballot box on Primary/General Election Dates.
9. National Party Organizations shall NOT raise money for or donate to specific candidates of their party prior to the dates outlined above.
10. PAC’s shall NOT be granted tax-exempt status by the IRS, and any non-profit organization who uses their funding for political purposes shall lose their tax-exempt status.
11. All lobbyists shall be outlawed from influencing Congress at all times.
This amendment shall be approved ONLY by State Constitutional Conventions to be called within 90 days of this petition being submmitted to a state’s Secretary of State. A minimum of 25% of the registered voters in each state shall be required to further this petition to the respective Secretary of State.
Name Signature State Address
Petition for US Constitutional Amendment For Congressional Term Limits
We, the undersigned US citizens, duly registered voters in our respective states/territories, do hereby petition for our state to approve the following amendment to the United States Constitution by the method noted below.
Term Limits for Congress:
1. Representatives to Congress shall serve no more than two two-year terms in the House.
2. Senators shall be elected to no more than two six year terms in the Senate.
3. No elected official shall serve more than six terms in office in any combined elected offices (House/Senate/Presidency.)
This amendment shall be approved ONLY by State Constitutional Conventions to be called within 90 days of this petition being submmitted to a state’s Secretary of State. A minimum of 25% of the registered voters in each state shall be required to further this petition to the respective Secretary of State.
Name Signature State Address
There is only one problem-this makes TOTAL sense!!!
A real mix of common sense and insanity here. Many of the points make sense, but #3 needs work -- there's no definition of what "campaigning" is. We'd probably agree that buying television commercials is campaigning, but what giving speeches in person? A congressman sending letters to constituents? A lot of what an elected official does day to day might be considered campaigning -- how does a challenger compete?
# 11 is also kind of crazy. Lobbyists have a bad name -- but every time you write a letter to your congressman, you're lobbying.
One national primary would be a very bad idea. It would be impossible to campaign nationwide for all but the richest of candidates.
I would support a 5 date plan, where each state is placed in one of 5 groups, and those groups rotate for each election. Each Group would be randomly chosen from geographic areas so that each date was balanced.
If you had one date many of those ultimately elected would not have been. Many came from behind when other candidates were found unfit by their own parties. Having them over a period allows for local campaigning, vetting and better examination. But compacting them into 5 groups of 10 states over a 10 week period would work nicely IMO.
The limit on how long you can campaign its both unworkable and a violation of free speech.
Money contributions limited only by those over 18 not by family.
I do not ever contribute to a campaign that I am not eligible to vote in. IE I will not contribute to a Senate campaign in another state.
I woud sign this thing if one thing were added.
Petition for US Constitutional Amendment Regarding Marriage
Upon ratification of this amendment, all provisions in any law, statute, and regulation referencing marriage shall be null and void. Marriage is hereby recognized as a civil and societal construct and government shall stay the hell away from trying to regulate it in any form.
Upon further review, I changed my mind. These proposals are "democracy" not "republican form of government". And we all know "democracy" is just a short step from total chaos. We've already let Progressives gut the Constitution by changing the way Senators are elected, and in doing so completely silenced every statehouse in the country with respect to national policy. The other proposals regarding elections are thinly veiled attacks at free speech. Like it or not, we can't go half way. If something crazy like this were to come up, we might as well scrap the Constitution and start over.
Sounds like a plan!!!
Frankly True: I have suggested the single national primary to my personal acquaintances, but I feel there needs to be a "tweak". The staged primaries we already have for President in each party do have the advantage of revealing more about each candidate over time, but with serious injustices to voters in both early voting and late voting states. A voter in an early voting state may prefer a candidate who later drops out, thus losing their vote. A voter in a late voting state has fewer candidates to vote for, and often the winner is already determined (by delegates won earlier). The solution, in my opinion, is for each party to keep the primaries they already have, as "beauty contests" only, for the press to follow. Then, on a single date two weeks before the earlier party convention, all states would have the binding primary for each party. All candidates who were on any earlier ballot would be in the binding primary in the same states, even if they have ceased campaigning (although this situation would make "dropping out" less likely). Of course, official delegate selection would be based upon the final primary result, although pundits would still be free to track "presumed" delegate counts.
The advantage to the early "beauty contest" voter is that their favorite candidate may come back on the ballot in the final primary, or if that candidate is no longer their favorite, they can vote for another one. The advantage to the late voter is that, even if their favorite has dropped out (or been disgraced by a scandal), they can still vote for that candidate or any other. Also, if a dropped out candidate has been "redeemed" by subsequent events, that candidate still has a chance.
It would be even better if all these primaries, and the general election, included an instant runoff (ranked choice) voting provision, so that more initial votes for dark horse candidates would be visible to the press, even if those candidates did not win. And the Electoral College is another matter: the simplest reform that would balance state suffrage with national popular suffrage would be to add another 100 "national" electoral votes, which would be allocated proportionately to the national popular vote (having 100 makes the math easier). Any comments or analysis of this idea would be of interest also.
And congresses pension shall be based on the Social Security formula. They work for us. Shouldn't we get at least get what they receive when they retire?
Charlie Crist was a great governor for Florida. I have nothing bad to say about him.
I don't live in Florida and I wish that 'parties' were extinguished. I just think people should stand by their own beliefs.
But I was totally amused by the picture of him holding up papers lol.
No difference between the two parties anyway, they've both have almost destroyed our country.
Hope Crist boots Gov Drug Test out of office and gets Florida back on the right path.
Time for truth:
Crist is a pathetic joke! I'm glad to see the Republican Party dump this bag of crap on the garbage heap also known as the Democrat Party. Lucky liberals, ha-ha-ha!
Now FERN,,,,,you only don't like him because he turned down your invitation to your party.
Don't be mad.
Sorry Fern, Crist left the GOP because he wouldn't tow the line with the nut jobs and crooks here in Florida.
America needs a stronger presence from the left. Currently if your a labeled a leftist in America it only means you disagree with the right, this is not the case in most industrialized nations. The American worker is a puppet on a string manipulated by both sides. The Republicans attack the working class and the Democrats increasingly ignore it. Time for a change.
What, having Obama as the comrade in chief isn't enough of a leftist presence? Save the poor, pitiful me worker/puppet drivel. You are responsible for your lot and success (or lack thereof) in life; no one else.
What is it exactly that the working class wants?
True Jimbo Joker. The republicons are Batchit crazy and the Democrats are now where the republicans used to be. There is no left wing in American politics.
What do American workers want? Clean air, water that does not catch on fire, affordable health care for all, safe working conditions, being able to retire and not be forced to eat dog food, and a living wage. Walmart does not supply a living wage, but Costco does.
What News! Charlie came out of the closet.
I switched from Repub to Democrat. Best decision I've ever made. I am SOO glad not to be affiliated with such a group of haters.
That's one closet he's come out of... just one more to go!
Welcome to the party, pal!
Yippee ki-yay, mother fu*ker!
Charlie Crist was never a right-winger, and he made the right move. It's simply too hard to win a major office as an independent. Maybe he'll even bring some sense to the democratic party, which right now is very confused. The republican party is beyond hope.
Good riddance. Hey Charlie, why don't you talk to Arlen and see how changing parties worked out for him. Get back to us on that.
You know Arlen Specter is dead, right?
snk...(#22.1)...."You know Arlen Specter is dead, right?"
You know Joe Biden "killed" him.....Spector was facing a tough Republican primary opponent and was unlikely to win re-election.....In steps Joe Biden...They needed one more vote to pass ObamaCare....he convinced poor Arlen to switch parties with the promise that the All-Powerful Obama would make sure he won the election as a Damocrat....they got their vote from him and were done with him.....Under the bus you go....Poor, poor Arlen Spector....he lost the Democrat Primary election, 0bama refused to campaign for him knowing Spector would lose and he died of a broken heart, P.0bama didn't love him no more.....
Arlen Specter was smart enough to know the truth early on. He said that he wouldn't let his political future be determined by a tiny swath of the electorate. The TeaParty was- IS- a small, extremist minority of the electorate with waaaay outsized influence over the Republican primary process. THAT is what is destroying the Republican Party. This small, extremist group of people is preventing intelligent, reasonable, sane republicans from running in the general elections by making sure that only goofballs survive primaries. Either that, or people like Mitt Romney have to pretend to be right wing extremists, and that haunts them in the general election.
I thought he already had his sex changed.
Maybe that's his next switch.
Crist - what a joke - he was ALWAYS a liberal democrat. This is news???
He was an old dog Republican, a Republican that cares about the country. YOU DON'T HAVE GUYS LIKE HIM ANYMORE.
Crist is done with the "cult party"... GOOD FOR HIM!
Crist is to the left of the RINOS. Even the commie Palm Beach Post admitted in an OpEd years ago he was delivering more for the Democrats as governor than the Democrat he beat would have.
The news would be if anyone who bragged of being from Texas said anything intelligent.
I agree with anti-trust proponent---Republicons and Demonrats got to go!!
Only CONs, ex-CONs, neo-CONS, and RepubliCONs have to go. Democrats are here to stay.