'Historic' crop of Iraq, Afghanistan veterans storming Washington, D.C.

Paul Beaty / AP

Tammy Duckworth, seen celebrating with husband Bryan Bowlsbey in Elk Grove Villiage, Ill., on Tuesday night, defeated challenger Rep. Joe Walsh for Illinois' 8th congressional district seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

A record 16 veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan were elected to Congress on Tuesday night and two more veterans remained locked in races Wednesday that were too close to call.

The winners included nine first-time officeholders and seven incumbents.

All but two of the victorious veterans seeking U.S. House and U.S. Senate seats represent the Republican Party. They included Brad Wenstrup, who deployed to Iraq in 2005 as a combat surgeon. Wenstrup will represent Ohio’s 2nd congressional district which sits east of Cincinnati.

For the Democrats, Tammy Duckworth captured Illinois’ 8th congressional district, which spans Chicago’s northern suburbs. Duckworth, who served as a captain in the Army National Guard, lost both of her legs and partial use of her right arm when her helicopter was shot down over Iraq in 2004. She becomes the first female veteran of Iraq or Afghanistan to serve in Congress.


“It’s a very powerful moment. She also became the first severely wounded veteran to be elected,” said Paul Rieckhoff, founder and chief executive officer of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), the largest nonprofit, nonpartisan group representing veterans of those two wars. “We are looking to her to really reach beyond politics and lead us all forward. She can be our generation’s John McCain or Max Cleland.”

McCain, an Arizona senator and the GOP’s 2008 presidential nominee, was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, breaking both arms and a leg and becoming a prisoner of war. Cleland, a former Democrat senator from Georgia, earned the Silver Star and Bronze Star during the Vietnam War, losing both legs above the knee and his right forearm to a grenade explosion.

The 16 veteran victories — the largest single wave of former service members heading to Congress since the 1980s, according to IAVA — represent “a huge step forward for the new veterans movement and a huge step forward for America,” Rieckhoff told NBC News. He called those collective outcomes "historic." 

“What we’ve seen from this community is an extraordinary focus on country as well as some pragmatic solutions. We believe these folks can work together across party lines and be a shot in the arm in Washington — exactly what America needs right now,” said Rieckhoff, who served as a first lieutenant and infantry rifle platoon leader in Iraq during 2003 and 2004.

“People think all we’re really doing over there is pulling triggers and dropping bombs. We’re also rebuilding schools, rebuilding infrastructure,” he added. “There’s no better testing ground for a political career than, say, helping the people of Fallujah (Iraq) get their water running again. Think about Staten Island right now — that’s (looking) like Fallujah.”

Overall, post-9/11 veterans competed for 42 Congressional seats on Tuesday night.

One of the most notable younger veterans to lose was Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts who had served in Afghanistan. He was beaten by Democrat Elizabeth Warren.  

Related: In costliest-ever Senate race, Warren beats Brown for Mass. seat

Rieckhoff predicted that at least one future U.S. president will emerge from the group of post-9/11 veterans who now hold congressional seats or who soon will head to Washington — “and maybe multiple presidents.”

“These aren’t professional politicians,” he said. “These are folks who served overseas who came who and wanted to continue to serve. This has happened all the way back to George Washington and was true of (John) Kennedy, (Harry) Truman and the first President (George H.W.) Bush. As George Washington said, ‘When we assumed the soldier, we did not lay aside the citizen.’ ” 

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I thought the military was pro-democrat (as depicted by the dems), you know the whole 47% thingy everyone was up in arms about. Maybe not so much huh? Seeing that all but two ran Republican. Including the military was BS i have three sons and daughter-in law actively serving and all they receive is their pay, BAH and spouse/family pay which is included in the military budget. No food stamps or other social programs are given to these servicemen and women. So tell me how they are on the Dole and voting for handouts when they don't receive them?

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#1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST

The military has always been considered far more Republican than Democrat, although that's shifted somewhat in recent years. If you have a source where the DNC is claiming a large military constituent, I'd like to read it.

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#1.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:58 PM EST

The Dems put forth a Jobs for Vets bill but the Republicans let it languish so they could go out and campaign.

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#1.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:04 PM EST

Ozzieyo1

I thought the military was pro-democrat (as depicted by the dems), you know the whole 47% thingy everyone was up in arms about. Maybe not so much huh? Seeing that all but two ran Republican. Including the military was BS

I don't remember anyone claiming the military was pro-democrat although a good portion is. Also after military service there is usually quit a shift among veterans from the Republican to the Democratic Party.

i have three sons and daughter-in law actively serving and all they receive is their pay, BAH and spouse/family pay which is included in the military budget. No food stamps or other social programs are given to these servicemen and women. So tell me how they are on the Dole and voting for handouts when they don't receive them?

The reference was to 47% who don't pay Federal Income Tax. If you are a service member deployed to combat, you do not pay Federal Income Tax on your earnings making them part of Romney's 47%. It was a reference to demonstrate how absurd his reference was. A hell of a lot of low income seniors on Medicare and Social Security also don't pay Income Tax and they worked their entire lives. Also, when I was first married in the military in 1970, my wife and I qualified for food stamps. We were paid about $110/mo including her allotment. There was not enough housing to go around. That was during the Vietnam war. Strange how the Republicans didn't seem to mind my wife and I being on the dole at the time...isn't it?

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#1.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:15 PM EST

Go get em, "Tammy"!!! We're proud of you.

O&Joe "Winners"!

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#1.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:22 PM EST

The reference was to 47% who don't pay Federal Income Tax. If you are a service member deployed to combat, you do not pay Federal Income Tax on your earnings making them part of Romney's 47%. It was a reference to demonstrate how absurd his reference was. A hell of a lot of low income seniors on Medicare and Social Security also don't pay Income Tax and they worked their entire lives. Also, when I was first married in the military in 1970, my wife and I qualified for food stamps. We were paid about $110/mo including her allotment. There was not enough housing to go around. That was during the Vietnam war. Strange how the Republicans didn't seem to mind my wife and I being on the dole at the time...isn't it?

1970 was the 91st congress and the Democrats dominated both the house and senate. Congress determines your pay not the POTUS!

Senate

Party standings on the opening day of the 91st Congress
57 Democratic Senators
43 Republican Senators

  • Democratic: 57 (majority)
  • Republican: 43

TOTAL members: 100

[edit] House of Representatives

  • Democratic: 243 (majority)
  • Republican: 192

TOTAL members: 435

Yet, you find some way to blame the Republicans for yours and your wife's base pay. I served in the military too as did my father and his father and his father.

The living conditions in 1970 for US service members far exceeded what military personal experienced anytime prior.

Ol Doc, you misrepresent yourself, the military and the country you served in the 1970s.

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#1.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:25 PM EST

Ol'Doc, I was in, in the 70s, You seem to me to exemplify why they told us we shouldn't get married until we were at least an E5. A PFC can't afford a family. You can't blame any political party for the consequences of your personal choices. Especially when you are advised against it. I know that you were so advised, because we all were.

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#1.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:42 PM EST

I feel sorry for this new crop of hopefuls. They have to deal with Eric Cantor, who takes his orders from Nettenyahoo to decide key U.S. policy decisions. He's a vile worm of the first order. Then, Cantor threatens Pelosi with legal action if she tries to have peace talks with Middle-Eastern diplomats other than Israelis. And, then there's Boehner, who is drunk most of the time and wants to destroy America, because of some really nasty demons in his life? Or maybe it's just as simple that he is drunk all the time, when he's not on vacation. These people are corrupt past any understanding of corruption. Then there's the insane Tea Partiers, like Cruz, that are too sick for words.

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#1.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST

Good luck dealing with the insanity Tammy. Congratulations.

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#1.9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST

Cantor pre-empted Hillary Clinton's diplomatic mission to Israel by talking with Israeli sources first, before Hillary had the chance to.

From the Atlantic Magazine: "Cantor, of course, directly supports Israel's continued occupation and colonization of the West Bank and uncontrolled settlement construction. And just as significant as Cantor's direct attempt to undermine his own president by siding with a foreign leader is that foreign leader's agreement to meet with him in order to advance the cause of Greater Israel.

There are no parallels with this kind of direct undermining of the president on foreign policy that I can think of. Am I wrong?" --quote from The Atlantic

Cantor has then threated Pelosi with the Logan Act when she has tried to talk with some Middle Eastern diplomats (other than the Israelis) in the past.

This sounds like treason to me.

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#1.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:56 AM EST

GOP R.I.P.

Some rubber bullets ought to take care of them. The baby killers ought to get a dose of their own medicine. Maybe even a few real rounds could be in the mix for some real fun.

Guy or Girl, Just who the hell do you think you are? I served 26 years in the service. Took a bullet in Vietnam, 33 pieces of shrapnel in Desert Storm and in my 26th year of service I had the bottom left leg blown off in Somalia and all you can do is call me, and every other combatant a baby killer!

In Vietnam I received a Silver Star with Valor for suppressing enemy fire that was killing and wounding my brothers around me. Yes, I killed 16 of the Viet Cong, the oldest of which was probably no more than 14 years old. It was the opposite of what you claim, it was babies killing Americans. I took a bullet for that and now years later I suffer from terminal cancer from OUR GOVERNMENTS use of Agents Orange, Red and Blue. I served in Granada and with NATO Peacekeepers in Bosnia to suppress the ethnic cleansing and saw mass graves and removed bodies from the mass graves found..men, women, children and infants.

I served in Desert Storm in 1991 and received 33 pieces of hot metal shrapnel from a child carrying a bomb who killed himself and two of my brothers, wounded 11 of us. Again, children killing Americans!

During UN Operation United Shield in Somalia my left leg was torn to shreds to an RPG attack...fired by a child and ending my goal for 30 years of service at 26 years.....child killing Americans. ...fired by a child and ending my goal for 30 years of service at 26 years.....child killing Americans.

I am not a murderer and neither are the servicemen and women who served.....JUST TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK YOUR MIND.

You are an insult to me and all others who gave up nearly everything or did give up everything (their lives) just for a$$holes like you.

One question to you...if a child pointed a real gun at you and you had a gun or a flower....which would you use to protect yourself?

In your case I would hope you would choose to hold up the flower to shut your non-appreciative mouth!!

War is not Murder you Dumba$$, It is either kill or be killed...PERIOD!

GOP R.I.P.

How can you be proud to be a murderer ?

On this comment I have only a couple things to say/ask! If you live in America and are an American (which you don't deserve to be called one or deserve the freedoms you have) why don't you pack you $hit, Shut your pie hole and get the h3ll out of here? Go somewhere else and live under their rules? You'll find that their rules don't include the freedoms you have here.

It has taken over 2 million dead servicemen and women and militias since the revolutionary war and countless other maimed and mutilated Americans to give you the cushy and wonderful freedoms you have today.

BUT, from my take you're just another self-centered, selfish taker, trailer trash oriented narcissistic waste of sperm. You appreciate nothing!

Definition of Narcissist: Narcissism is a term with a wide range of meanings, depending on whether it is used to describe a central concept of psychoanalytic theory, a mental illness, a social or cultural problem, or simply a personality trait. Except in the sense of primary narcissism or healthy self-love, "narcissism" usually is used to describe some kind of problem in a person or group's relationships with self and others. In everyday speech, "narcissism" often means egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others. In psychology, the term is used to describe both normal self-love and unhealthy self-absorption due to a disturbance in the sense of self.

Take a look in a mirror and you'll probably agree with that definition of you.

Get the H3LL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

Look me up: Nick Donofrio, Chief Master Sgt, Retired, U.S. Air Force, Silver Star w/Valor, Hand to Hand Close Combat Medal, Bronze Star Star w/Valor, Purple Heart with two Silver Stars (three Purple Hearts), USAF Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Army and Air Force Achievement Medals, Air Force Combat Action Medal, NATO Medal, NATO Kosovo Medal, Kuwait Liberation Medal (Saudi Arabia), Kuwait Liberation Medal (Emirate of Kuwait), Vietnam Gallantry Cross, Vietnam Civil Actions Medal (Non-military award..awarded by Republic of S. Vietnam Government), Air Assault Medal....and the list goes on!!

I gave up a lot for pinkos like you.....AND EVEN THOUGH YOUR AN A$$, I WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!!

True meaning of PINKO: Pinko is a critical term coined in America in 1925, originally to describe a person regarded as being sympathetic to communism, though not necessarily a Communist!!

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#1.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:57 AM EST

Depending on the military family's income and size it is completely possible for them to receive food stamps. It is a shame but it is true.

I am retired USAF and a democratic leaning independent BTW.

While I make very little in retirement pay (about the minimum you'd get on social security) I pay taxes on every penny because it isn't considered "earned income" because it is retired pay. Fortunately my home is paid for and I live cheaply so I don't ask for it but I could qualify for food stamps, and if I didn't own my home section 8 etc.

We served and we were taught to keep going and not complain but there are inequities and I think if the American public and or legislators knew of them they would want to fix them, maybe this new crop can educate them. I don't ask for myself I am getting by but there are many who are not and young troops and their families having to get in line for hand outs is an example of something that needs to be addressed.

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#1.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:04 AM EST

Junior military people with families may in fact be part of the 47%. They may be qualified for the earned income credit, would make them not pay taxes. I am a military veteran and I always voted Democrat.

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#1.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:31 AM EST

njofaustin & sea2see-- A great big THANK YOU, to you both for your valiant service and sacrifice, for this great nation! GOD BLESS!!!! p.s. Congrats to Tammy Duckworth, another great serviceperson!!!!

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#1.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:41 AM EST

AG99-The military has always been considered far more Republican than Democrat, although that's shifted somewhat in recent years. If you have a source where the DNC is claiming a large military constituent, I'd like to read it.

Here is one article on it right now:

Update: Armed Forces Show Overwhelming Support for Obama
By Michelle Martinelli on October 22, 2012 9:10 AM

Update, Oct. 21: Fundraising numbers for the month of September show Obama continuing to dominate when it comes to contributions from the military. The new data, which came in after the story below was published Oct. 15, show he raised $142,197, just a shade less than he collected in August, his strongest month with this set of donors. Romney brought in $111,015 for his best month ever with military donors, but that was still 22 percent less than Obama received.

The new numbers bring Obama's total from military donors to $678,611, and Romney's to $398,450.

Foreign policy, military funding and plans for U.S. troops abroad are providing plenty of chewy campaign fodder for President Barack Obama and his GOP rival, Mitt Romney. But fundraising reports shed light on what the armed forces think about the the candidates.

Former Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul received significant support from the military for his strong stance on bringing troops home, and that briefly continued even after Romney pulled ahead as the clear GOP candidate.

Now, though, the military's support has shifted toward Obama. Romney has consistently received little financial backing from military donors.

Despite the fact that Paul once raised almost twice as much as Obama did from the military, the president has received $536,414 from military donors, compared to Paul's $399,274 and Romney's $287,435, according to research by the Center for Responsive Politics. These numbers are based on donations greater than $200, as reported to theFederal Election Commission.

Below is a table of contributions from military and civilian employees of the military for the 2012 election cycle through Aug. 31:

Contributing $176,121, the Department of Defense is Obama's biggest supporter, with theArmy not far behind with $165,646. The Navy sits in third at $86,656. In comparison, Romney's top military contributor is the Army with $87,218, followed by the Department of Defense with $71,043 in contributions.

Donor Obama Romney PaulDefense Acquisition University $0 $1,000 $0National Defense University $300 $0 $0National Guard $7,507 $4,490 $16,333NATO $250 $0 $0US Air Force $69,532 $54,170 $90,611US Army$165,646 $87,218$115,458US Coast Guard $12,122 $4,700 $13,819US Dept of Defense$176,121 $71,043 $39,500US Marine Corps $16,168 $16,120 $30,855US Military $2,112 $5,491 $2,755US Navy $86,656 $43,203 $89,943Total$536,414$287,435$399,274
However, although Obama's fundraising totals are higher than his opponent's, eight of the 11 military branches the Center for Responsive Politics analyzed have given more to Republican presidential candidates -- most notably the Navy, the Air Force and the Marine Corps.

The Obama advantage comes even though he said $500 billion in military spending would be cut as part of the sequestration process to help balance the budget, while Romney has alluded to a multi-trillion-dollar increase over the next decade.

Despite the president's $100,000-plus lead over Romney and Paul in funding from the armed forces, the numbers didn't turn in his favor until March when Obama began receiving donations doubling Paul's.

On a month-by-month basis, the latest fundraising numbers are from August, which show Obama with a $140,761 to $90,273 lead over Romney. Both candidates received most of their August funding from the Army, with Obama pulling in about $21,000 more.

Below is a table of contributions from military and civilian employees of the military for the month of August:

Donor Obama Romney Paul

Defense Acquisition University
$0
$250
$0

National Guard
$2,750
$2,940
$0

NATO
$250
$0
$0

US Air Force
$17,285
$17,800
$0

US Army
$47,907
$26,727
$0

US Coast Guard
$4,970
$2,750
$0

US Dept of Defense
$36,822
$21,667
$250

US Marine Corps
$4,500
$3,350
$201

US Military
$750
$491
$0

US Navy
$25,527
$14,298
$0

Total
$140,761
$90,273
$451

Although Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) discussed national security and military funding during their debate last week, voters still are waiting for a more in-depth treatment of the issues from the presidential candidates. That may occur at tomorrow's second presidential debate at Hofstra University in New York.

Correction: This story was changed to accurately reflect that eight of the 11 military branches analyzed have given more to Republican presidential candidates, not Romney alone. Additionally, the sentence detailing which branches give the most money to Romney has been updated with correct numbers.


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#1.15 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:36 AM EST

Please don't compare Tammy Duckworth to John McCain. You are insulting her!

    #1.16 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 5:29 AM EST

    Uncle Bob 512,

    DON'T EVEN GO THERE.

    The numbers you posted are Not the Whole Story:

    First the National Guard are a State's Militia and owe themselves to the Political Leadership of that State's Governor.

    Also Your Numbers:

    National Guard
    $2,750
    $2,940
    $0

    The Actual Numbers:

    National Guard:

    National Guard $2,750
    Civilians Employed by the National Guard $2,940
    Other $0

    When you subtract the Civilian Employees employed by the US Military then you get the relative numbers comparsion to the actual monetary support between President Obama and Presidential Candidate Romulan.

    The Reason why the Civilians Employed by the US Military were for President Obama is because these are the same Overpaid Too Expensive US Civilians that President Obama sided with ever since his August 2009 US Civilian Surges, AGAINST the Commanding Generals of Iraq and Aghanistan; US Civilians that were demanding their "Rights" to BurgerKing, Starbucks, KFC, Mexican Food Vendors, Pizzia Joints, etc., that the Generals were stating were straining the US Military Logistics.

    People were risking their lives driving BurgerKing Hamburger Buns from the Ports at Pakistan into Afghanistan, also genuine Starbucks coffee cups.

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    #1.17 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST

    njofaustin,

    That is still happening, Women and Children killing US Military. Just like Vietnam (LRRP/Ranger).

    Now a days they kidnap someone's child, then give them a handgrenade or a cell phone triggered bomb in a child's backpack or if large enough to fit a suicide bomb vest, then they send them to us. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Redacted).

    There are still the "Child Soldiers" at US AFRICOM. (UN Mission Somalia II, Operation Continue Hope; UN Observer Sudan).

    During our Special Surveillance we see the children used as lookouts; women and children dragging carts full of "fertilizer", as well as women and children watching the airbases and reporting all the flights. (Afghanistan).

    Inside Al Qaeda

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/04/inside-al-qaeda.html

    Sadly, still most Civilians, Politicians, Military ConventionalWarfare Forces cannot grasp the concept of Asymmetric Warfare, and vaguely even have a clue about actual current ConventionalWarfare (92% of US Citizens NEVER Served in the US Military). (US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone; Kuwait (LRS-D), Iraq (pre and Operation Desert Storm), Operation Desert Fox, Afghanistan October 2001, Operation Viking Hammer, Operation Hotel California, Redacted).

    I am so glad that more US Military Veterans will be at US Congress. Maybe, the US Politicians will have second thoughts about getting the US Military involved with being the United Nation's "World Police" at the cost of our lives and expense of US Taxpayers. While the Chinese and Russian Federation laugh at us.

    What these US Military Veterans at US Congress MUST do is stop President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military thrown on Unemployment further straining the Veteran's Affairs (VA), and the Unemployment of 108,000 US Civilians employed by the US Military. The 2013 automatic Sequestration numbers with the above are even higher, 1/4th to 1/2 of current US Military chopped (1% of US Citizens currently Serving US Military). These President Obama Proposal to US Congress Budget Cuts do include the US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces (aka Special Warfare). And;

    President Obama, 2012, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed". Yet, President Obama in his Proposal to US Congress is demanding an 11% Defense Budget Cut.

    They must also stop President Obama's US Defense Budget Cut, since that includes the US Army Corps of Engineers Longterm Infrastructure Projects/Programs within the US; like Bridges, Levees, Dredging, Water Reserviors, etc..

    Have President Obama Renegotiate the withdrawal agreement with President Karzai, as we (US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces) will remain at Afghanistan Indefinitely, while the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces will abandon US Ally Afghanistan 2014; leaving us without the necessary support of the US Military Conventional Warfare Forces for sustained longterm Operations. As either withdraw all US Military Out, or pressure US Ally Pakistan to allow again the US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan to sustain the numbers of US Military, NATO Military to conduct the UN Mission Afghanistan (the real reason why US Military must leave Afghanistan decreased Logistics support capability after the demanded by US Ally Pakistan closure of US Military Logistics Support Bases at US Ally Pakistan, not some Political promise).

    njofaustin,

    TMI (Too Much Information), never post your real name, etc.. It's just like when we finally get to a FOB, COB, Secure USAF Base, etc.; and hear &$%&%$ talking sh!t (claiming they did what we have been doing). There is also he matter of Civilians doing Identity Theft.

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    #1.18 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST
    Reply

    God Bless my fellow Shipmates, they will serve with Pride!

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    Reply#2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST

    @GOP R.I.P. --- The same way you are proud to be stool sample.

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    #2.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:08 PM EST

    RIP, You're overgeneralized and so absurdly exaggerated view of veterans, even if meant to be sarcastic, makes you seem utterly foolish.

    Many of us are progressives and liberals.

    Some of us are comfortable with only one gun.

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    #2.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:55 PM EST

    You see, here is what is wrong with the Democratic party, and this is coming from a STAUNCH Liberal Democrat: we've got some people so rigid and uncompromising that they post s#it like RIP. That's NOT what being a "Liberal" is, at all. "Liberal" literally means being open to ideas and other's ways of doing things, accepting things that are different while not compromising our principles, and compromising as much as we can, not all pinched up hateful and hard like a too-tight pair of undies that won't let go.

    Dems like RIP are not helpful to the realistic causes that genuine Liberals espouse, and are a complete embarrassment; they are antithetical to our real purpose of making life good for everyone, not just a few. They are the ones the GOP hold up and say "See...See; this is what Liberals are. This is why we have to be rid of them."

    I don't like guns either, but I respect the Constitution, and the right for others to have them. The best way to not have those guns used on you is to not practice 'rabid-dog politics', I suspect.

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    #2.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:50 AM EST

    gop rip

    I am so used to responding to crazy rants from RWNJ's on there rabid posts. It saddens me to see your posts.

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    #2.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:29 AM EST

    paddywhack

    It is the progressives that are dangerous.

    Yes most liberals are open minded however the progressive movement wants to dismantle our American way of life and our Capital free market Republic and replace it with a progressive agenda.

    This is where patriotic liberals,moderates, and conservatives have to ban together and draw the line.

    I have seen many liberasl post parts of that agenda many times has something good which in reality is dangerous to our American society.

    The 99% and 1%, class warfare, and redistribution of wealth are all part of the Karl Marx Ideology and has no place in our Republic. and yet I see posted many times by the progressives which is not a good thing.

      #2.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:01 AM EST
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      #2.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST

      well...that guy was rude.....

        #2.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:55 PM EST

        Well, if you can't be classy or charming, intelligent nor inspiring, witty or wise, engaging or entertaining, one can always resort to just showing the world the end result of all those years invested learning how to type what one keeps hearing. Even a few million monkeys using typewriters endlessly working will eventually create Shakespeares greatest works. We should be thankful this fella only has one life to give for his typewriter.

          #2.11 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 8:22 AM EST
          Reply

          ol doc while they're deployed are you serious that is your response. how about when they're not. Why is it absurd to suggest that f people are receiving assistance from the govt. they might not vote for people who would want to trim that back. If so many military change to Dems after they get out they sure are not likely to run for office it appears.

            Reply#3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:35 PM EST

            You apparently do not understand who is in the 47% group of citizens who owe no taxes. They are those who are on social security, low income earners, and yes, military who are deployed or disabled. That's not some liberal slam on the deployed. It's a fact. No one is asking them to pay taxes. The truth is that they are included in the 47% of Americans not paying federal taxes.

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            #3.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST

            deployed or disabled they are not the issue here it is about a dependent society on government aid, period!

              #3.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:55 PM EST

              You're right Ozzie, This system of corporate dependency on government aid needs to end. Instead of their employees collecting food stamps, minimum wage should be increased so that they have to pay their workers enough to feed themselves.

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              #3.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:04 PM EST

              You're absolutely right Ozzieyo1!

              Let's end the subsidies for oil companies, for coal companies, for foreign governments, for military contractors, for farmers, for churches, synogogues & mosques. . .all are dependent on U.S. Government via tax breaks and/or subsidies.

              We can save billions for infrastructure like roads, bridges, tunnels, for renewable energy including hydroelectric dams, solar panels & wind farms, for universal healthcare, for planned parenthood (which would end the biggest threat to earth: overpopulation), for increasing educational spending & research, for increasing NASAs budget & The National Science Foundation. . .all money that would support a thriving, progressive, society!

              I'm all for it Ozzieyo1! Let's do it!

              But something tells me this is not what you had in mind. I'll bet you were only referring to poor people, not the REAL leeches of society mentioned above.

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              #3.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:08 AM EST

              captian jack

              What about the government waste and abuse?

              our infrastructure is deteriorated and the government is stealing revenues away form the transportation funds and using it on pork bellies.

              The federal tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon on diesel.

              the oil companies make about 6 cents per gallon in profits- the oil companies combined in 2011 had a total profit of 110 billion.

              the government took in 435 billion in gas excise taxes and yet if you look at CBO, transportation outlay was 1/3 of the revenues brought in

              My question is what did the government do with the other 2/3?

              All excise gas taxes are to go 100% to our infrastructure and so if the government is stealing 2/3 of the transportation revenue for wasteful pork bellies. then of course our roads and bridges are going to continue to deteriate.

                #3.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:30 AM EST

                Wait to see what happens when the "47%" find out that President Obama's Proposal to US Congress chops their Entitlements and Benefits, to pay for some of the $2.1 Trillion that was previously not budgeted for that he spent.

                Den O'synn - Instead of their employees collecting food stamps, minimum wage should be increased so that they have to pay their workers enough to feed themselves.

                Are you including the US Military paid below minimum wages also.

                How about allowing the US Military to Unionize. And do not use the lame excuses of "Volunteers" or "Critical", etc.; as the US Law Enforcement, Fire Fighters, are also "Volunteers" and "Critical" and are Unionized.

                The US Military Budget MUST be separate from the Inclusive US Defense Budget.

                Almost laughing, answer this question: WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR US INFRASTRUCTURE NATIONWIDE.

                Captain Jack Wigal,

                You really need to figure out what the US And US Allies Permanently Lost Worldwide to the Chinese and Russian Federation due to President Obama's Policies.

                You CANNOT create something from nothing, especially Alternative Energy and High Tech.

                • 1 vote
                #3.6 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST

                Captain Jack Wigal,

                Also pertaining to Health Care.

                FACTS: By getting the Insurance Corporations OUT of the Medical Profession, Medical Treatments Costs decrease by 80%, doing this results in US Citizens paying $50 for Unlimited Medical Treatments.

                HISTORY: During the Great Depression, when US Citizens had to decide on either Food, OR Health Care; President FDR instituted his Universal Health Care For All US Citizens, as done by: Getting the Insurance Corporations out of the Medical Profession. Creating a Government Infrastructure to create a sustained Medical Profession within the US, primarily thru the Office of the Surgeon General (A US Military Officer, Medical Professional) and US Military Medical Service Corps (training programs including Medical School for Reserve Officers and US Military Nurse Corps, after Service obligations released to Civilian Practices, subject to Recalls).

                FACT, it is NOT US Government Mismanagement of US Medical Programs; but, the Greed of US Insurance Corporations that the US Medical Programs are "Outsourced" to manage by the US Government:

                President Obama, Face the Nation, September 20, 2009:

                "Obama: No, the difference is that they're making huge profits on it, Bob. I mean, let's take the Medicare HMO programs that are being run by insurance companies. It's estimated by everybody that they're overcharging by about 14 percent. This amounts to about $177 billion over 10 years. About $17 billion a year, $18 billion a year. That's just going to pad their profits, hasn't been shown to make Medicare recipients any healthier. And in fact because those huge subsidies are going to insurance companies, Medicare recipients are not getting a good deal. Now if we are enforcing what should be the rules around Medicare and making sure the people are getting a bang for the buck, it's not going to be possible for insurance companies to simply pass on those costs to Medicare recipients because ultimately it's Uncle Sam that's paying for those services anyway."

                "Uncle Sam" are the US Citizens, not a fictitious Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy. And NO President Obama's ACA did not fix this US Insurance Corporations Fraud Against the US Citizens; instead chopped the payments to Caregivers to Senior Citizens and payments to Medical Professionals providing Medicare.

                • 1 vote
                #3.7 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:28 PM EST
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                ol doc one last thing us republicans didn't start the Vietnam war Kennedy did and Johnson escalated it. The Republicans end it as you know and we were not 16 trillion in debt in 1970 either.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:55 PM EST

                Ozzie you are 100% correct. However JFK did not get the chance to play out his Nam plan. I have no doubt it would have gone much differently. Not because he was a dem but because he was a vet. He would not have allowed those four men to be murdered in Benghazi or would he be continuing to allow our people to be murdured in Afghan either. He prob would have nuked Iran by now. JFK was a MAN. dem or not. Also he was an Irish Catholic and not a muslim.

                • 3 votes
                #4.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:09 PM EST

                Eisenhower sent advisors into Vietnam.

                • 6 votes
                #4.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST

                @ Ozzieyo1

                Don't forget that Eisenhower (Republican) sent advisers to Vietnam; Kennedy inherited Vietnam from him.

                Kennedy's plan was to end the American presence in Vietnam by the end of '65. When he was killed, Johnson reversed that decision; mostly because he was a Texan that supported the military-industrial complex of companies in Houston. When he was called out on that, that is when he chose not to run again in '68. In the end, he restored some honor by doing that.

                • 3 votes
                #4.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:14 AM EST

                US Military involvement with French Indo China, aka Vietnam, started even before the "Advisers".

                After WWII, the Japanese withdrew from French Indo China.

                The United Nations (League of Nations) demanded a Military Force to hold French Indo China until the French could reoccupy their former Colony.

                1945. US Military, Canadian Military, Australian Military, French Military (limited numbers), British Military (limited numbers), etc. sent to French Indo China. Strategic World Resource: French Rubber Tree Plantations.

                • 1 vote
                #4.6 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:41 PM EST
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                As long as, obama's Benghazi cover-up and scandal are going on there will be few vets supporting democrats. The king has yet to admit he allowed 4 Americans to be murdered by terrorists and lied about it. It has not gone away. And won't!

                • 2 votes
                Reply#5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:02 PM EST

                Hey Bob -Why don't you cut the "Donald Trump" Bull@!$%# talking points already. The election is over.

                O&Joe (The People Spoke)

                • 13 votes
                #5.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:06 PM EST

                Those men's lives have nothing to do with politics-they will have a lot to do with the upcomming impeachment.

                • 1 vote
                #5.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:11 PM EST

                GT

                Some people just can't separate politics and honor and your one of them it seems.

                Bob

                Probably not impeachment but the truth needs to be told and let the chips fall were they may.

                • 2 votes
                #5.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:42 PM EST

                Bob: When you find me and take to court those responsible for 4,132 deaths and the weapons of mass destruction they died searching for I will tell you where to find the ones responsible for Benghazi. Crybaby...

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                #5.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST

                Sounds great, Bob!

                But when are we going to investigate Bush, Jr. for Iraq-gate, Valerie-Plame-gate, 9/11, Afghanistan, the revenge firing of several Department of Justice attornies when they called him out on his B.S., Wire-tapping-gate, Katrina-gate, the Bush-Cheney-Haliburton nexus, the fact that Cheney and Bush were both citizens of the same state (illegal), Texas, when they initially filed their candidacy, the unnecessary suspension of habeus corpus. . .and the fifty other scandals of the Bush, Jr. regime?

                • 5 votes
                #5.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:19 AM EST

                justiceforall-2038290 - Bob: When you find me and take to court those responsible for 4,132 deaths and the weapons of mass destruction they died searching for I will tell you where to find the ones responsible for Benghazi. Crybaby...

                Captain Jack Wigal But when are we going to investigate Bush, Jr. for Iraq-gate,

                Iraq: 2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom to accomplish President Clinton's US Law, H.R. 4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification, Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction; Section 3 US Policy Overthrow of President Hussein, with US Congressional Appropriations.

                President Clinton's failed US Military attempt 1998 Operation Desert Fox, the "Islamic World" declares the US THE GREAT SATAN, more Pro US and Neutral Islamic Believers join the Islamic Jihad against the US and US Allies.

                Captain Jack Wigal - Valerie-Plame-gate,

                CIA Operative Valerie Wilson as Outed by the Washington Post Article of Robert Novak. President Bush (43) has DOJ, Special Prosecutor, go after Washington Post, Robert Novak, Richard Armitage, and Lewis Libby.

                The Democrats start screaming "Freedom of the Press", "Right to Know", "Constitutional Rights", "Transparency", "Freedom of Speech", etc..

                President Obama's Whitehouse Official Confirmation of CIA Operative Pakistan (hunt for OBL). President Obama's Whitehouse Official Confirmation of CIA Asset (hunt for OBL), Pakistanis Doctor, sentenced to 33 years in Pakistanis Prison. Senator Lieberman Outing President Obama's Secret Wars (not Iraq, nor Afghanistan).

                Captain Jack Wigal - 9/11,

                President Clinton Gutted the US Intelligence Agencies that were built up by Director of the CIA Bush (later President Bush (41)) leaving the US Blind and Deaf to the Events leading to the 9/11 2001 Attacks. After the Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendations, former President Clinton says, "I'm a so sorry".

                Captain Jack Wigal - Afghanistan,

                October 2001 WE (NOT YOU) do this:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arxKhJIjIiY

                The Mistake was that since December 2001 Afganistan was a UN Mission. So NATO appointed Gentleman British General McColl as the Commander of Afghanistan, with no idea of Asymmetric War Afghanistan, and only British Conventional Warfare. Resulting in our previous gains paid in our blood being lost. As while we were at Northern Iraq during 2001 Viking Hammer elminating the Taliban, Al Quada, Islamic Jihadists that escaped us via the Old Silk Road from Afghanistan and combined with the Kurdistanis became Ansar Al Islam, Iran gave Ansar Al Islam Islamic Sanctuary, via Iran most then returned to Afghanistan and British General McColl did not even attempt to stop them or those that returned from Pakistan.

                Captain Jack Wigal - the revenge firing of several Department of Justice attornies when they called him out on his B.S.,

                So what President Obama fired General McKiernan for asking for more US Military, fired his appointed Registered Democrat General McChrystal, US Ambassador Eikenberry (LTG, Ret), and everyone else that were not "Yes men or women". And how about all those Czars.

                Captain Jack Wigal - Wire-tapping-gate,

                Catch up to current events President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts that eliminated Constitutional Rights, and Section on US Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications. And his 2012 NDAA, US Military Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens.

                Captain Jack Wigal - Katrina-gate,

                President Clinton's previous Cuts to the US Defense Budget, that stopped the Funding of the US Army Corps of Engineer Longterm Projects and Programs, the Levees at New Orleans. Bipartisan US Congressional Katrina Hearings.

                Captain Jack Wigal - the Bush-Cheney-Haliburton nexus,

                After the President Clinton Cut to the Bone Reductions In Forces of the US Military, many US Military Veterans either formed or were hired by US Contractors. Some of the US Contractors were too cheap to hire the more experienced US Military Veterans, then when they could not meet or exceed the minimum requirements for being awarded the US Military Contracts they made this a Political Issue.

                Captain Jack Wigal - the fact that Cheney and Bush were both citizens of the same state (illegal), Texas, when they initially filed their candidacy,

                Research Requirements for the Offices of President and Vice President.

                Captain Jack Wigal - the unnecessary suspension of habeus corpus. . .

                Like I stated before go research what President Obama has DONE.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE&feature=fvst

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

                Captain Jack Wigal - and the fifty other scandals of the Bush, Jr. regime?

                How about the deadly scandals of only the 4 years of President Obama.

                You are so busy living in the past (blame game, partisan politics blaming the wrong person) you cannot even see what is currently happening.

                You want to blame those responsible learn to do a Causative Timeline and or be a participant (Firsthand Experience).

                justiceforall-2038290 - I will tell you where to find the ones responsible for Benghazi.

                Uh, huh, like you really know anything other than what some political party stuffed you full of propaganda (sh!t):

                FACTS, Without disclosing Classified (information withheld from US Public):

                Life during President Gaddaffi, contract with Libyan Citizens in his "Green Book": Loans to Libyan citizens were given with "NO interest". Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for. If you’d be unable to get the employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed. When you got married the couple got an apartment or house for free. You could go to college anywhere in the world, the state paid 2,500 euros plus for accommodation and a car. The cars were sold at factory cost. Libya does not owe money, (not a cent) to anyone, No credits. Free education and health care. 25% of population with a university degree. No beggars on the streets and no homeless. Bread costs $0.15. Gasoline $0.33 per liter, during the attacks $0.66 per liter. Human Rights and Libyan Citizen's Rights as praised by the UN and UA (African Union). All this disappeared after the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi.

                President Gaddaffi and Libya as a US Ally, to get the President Bush US and UN Sanctions and Embargoes lifted so he would ship Libyan Oil to the US European Allies: Collaborated with the CIA. President Gaddaffi had his Libyan Military hunting the Islamic Jihadists at Libya. Stopped his pursuit of Nuclear Power. Turned over his Chemical Weapons to the US. Transfer of US Islamic Jihadists Prisoners from Guantanamo to President Gaddaffi's Prisons (including later President Obama's). Human Rights and Libyan Citizen's Rights as praised by the UN and UA (African Union).

                The Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations is demanding President Gaddaffi's Death for Collaborating with the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers, a Death Penalty Fatawa is issued.

                Most of the work that the Libyan Citizens do not want to do are done by Foreigners brought into Libya, and have no Libyan Citizens Rights nor the Libyan Citizens Entitlements listed in President Gaddaffi's Green Book.

                The Holy Warriors of Islam (aka Islamic Jihadists) are gathering at Libya, after the Overthrow of US Ally Egypt. Many Intelligence Agencies are stating that these Islamic Jihadists are the Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. as trained, armed, funded by the Quds Special Forces of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran at the Fundamentalist Islamic Autonomous Kurdistanis Region of Northern Iraq, Syria, Southern Turkey, and Northwestern Iran to Overthrow the Established Governments of US Allies.

                President Gaddaffi warns everyone about the Fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists gathering at Libya, President Gaddaffi's Military starts to fight them, the Islamic Jihadists go back and forth between Libya and Egypt, so President Gaddaffi's Libyan Military cannot eliminate the Islamic Jihadists without violating Egypt's Sovereignty. President Obama ignores this just like he ignored US Ally Iraq, US Ally Egypt, US Ally Saudi Arabia, US Ally Turkey, US Ally Pakistan, President of Syria, etc. until it was too late.

                President Gaddaffi f**ks up, declares Libyan Oil Nationalization. Due to President Obama's Policies the US and US Allies have lost the Iraqis Oil, this makes the Libyan Oil of Strategic Importance to the US European Allies. Other Governments that previously declared Oil Nationalization, with them being Overthrown, Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh of Iran (1953), President Hussein of Iraq "Modernization of the Arab World" (Iraqis Oil Nationalization). Failed US Overthrow attempt President Chavez of Venezuela (1999-2000).

                Why Benghazi: Thousands of Islamic Jihadists flood into Benghazi with the Asymmetric Warfare intent of killing the Libyan Military Guards, seizing the weapons, ammunition at the the 60 bunker Hight Razma facility on the eastern outskirts of Benghaziand a 35 bunker facility on the eastern outskirts of Ajdabiyah." The term "bunkers" is a misnomer as some of these "bunkers" were the size of warehouses. After the Libyan Military Guards were massacred at these Libyan Munitions Depots, the Facilities were left unguarded. This is how about 20,000 shoulder launched portable SA-7 anti aircraft missiles ended up "missing"; believed to be currently in the hands of Al Quada and the rest of the Islamic Terrorists (Jihadist, Worldwide Islamic Military), possible use shoot down US and US Ally Commercial Airlines (Aircraft) worldwide (after all the other publicly known failed attempts); most US Military and US Ally Military Aircraft have detection and countermeasures (some are still shot down by SA-7s, mistaken for RPGs (similar warhead). ). Then inciting the Foreign Workers brought into Libya to demand Libyan Citizens Rights and Entitlements.

                President Gaddaffi sends his Libyan Military to fight the Islamic Jihadists and Foreign Worker Protesters and Demonstrators gone violent (murdered Libyan Military).

                President Obama then claims that President Gaddaffi is a "Dictator Killing his own people" (they are not Gaddaffi's own Libyan Citizens; but are Islamic Jihadists).

                President Gaddaffi orders the Foreign Workers to leave his Country, most do not and actively join the Islamic Jihad to Overthrow President Gaddaffi the Collaborator to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers; again the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations demands the Overthrow of President Gaddaffi.

                The Libyan Oil:

                During the "G" Meeting at France, that was attended by SOS Clinton, the European Oil Corporations Lobby the European Politicians to Overthrow President Gaddaffi to stop his Libyan Oil Nationalization (majority of Profits remain in Libya); the Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations (Original Charter the Elimination of the Jews) as a new Member, League of Arab States, aka Fundamentalist Islamic Arab League of Nations, demands the Overthrow of Former US Ally President Gaddaffi and February 22, 2011 remove President Gaddaffi from membership (President Gaddaffi's Military killing Holy Warriors of Islam originally went to Libya to Overthrow President Gaddaffi as previously demanded by the Fundamentalist Islamic League of Arab States.).

                These European Oil Corporations demand President Gaddaffi's Overthrow to stop his Libyan Oil Nationalization: BP (Britain), Total, Elf (France), Eni (Italy), OMV (Austria), Statoil (Norway), etc.. So instead of these European Oil Corporations hiring cheap Libyan Labor then keeping all the Profits, with Gaddaffi's Resource Nationalization, they would get almost nothing and the majority of the profits would remain in Libya. So in anticipation of their Governments Military Actions to Overthrow Gaddaffi to stop his Resource Nationalization, "Non essential" personnel were evacuated February 21, 2011.

                US Army Special Forces LTC Woods and his Specialized Security Teams are at Libya since February. It is Routine to attach US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces to the CIA's SAD/SOG to conduct Targeting and Target Damage Assessments to minimize Civilian Casualties during Airstrikes and Cruise Missile Attacks. The US Military Asymmetric Warfare Forces Missions are routinely Special Reconnaissance, Special Surveillance, Foreign Internal Defense, Insurgency (training the locals to Overthrow a Established Government), Counter Insurgency (stop others from Overthrowing a US Ally's Established Government), etc..

                President Obama as Commander In Chief Orders the US Military to attack Libya in violation of the US Law that Restricts or Limits the Presidential War Powers, US Law, 1973 War Powers Resolution (Act), Impeachable Offense. President Obama failed to notify both Houses of US Congress 48 hours prior to ANY US Military Actions. US Congress does not have time to write a US Law with US Congressional Appropriations, like they did for President Clinton (42) and President Bush (43). President Obama uses not previously Budgeted for Discretionary Spending including to fund NATO's Bombs, Fuel, Cruise Missiles, etc.. Afterwards on behalf of President Obama SOS Clinton apologizes to US Congress (admittance of guilt), "I'm sorry".

                The Results: President Gaddaffi is murdered. Most of the Libyan Citizens that benefited as President Gaddaffi Supporters flee Libya (See Life During President Gaddaffi above). The Islamic Jihadists get another Islamic Nation. Mediterranean Ports closer to attack the US European Allies aka Crusaders. US European Allies lose the Libyan Oil to the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Ally, the Chinese. 20,000 portable shoulder launched anti aircraft SA-7 missiles end up in the hands of the Islamic Jihadists with their stated goal of shooting down US Civilian Airlines "to cripple the US Economy". President Obama's Guantanamo prisoners transferred to President Gaddaffi's Prisons are released. Strategic Location for the Islamic Jihadists to get the other African Nations, just like Egypt was key to get Libya.

                The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group were those Islamic Jihadist Foreign Fighters that were killing US Military at Iraq, they become the Government of Libya.

                The Fundamentalist Islamic Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. at Libya become Ansar Al Shariahto protect and instate Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Laws as the Rule of Law for Libya.

                Ansar Al Shariah starts planning their attacks against the US And US Allies, and eliminations of Pro President Gaddaffi Supporters as Collaborators to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers.

                Update October 2012: As stated before Libya is Strategic to attack other African Nations, Ansar Al Shariah attacks Mali.

                PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR POLITICAL GAIN INFLAMED THE 1.5 BILLION ISLAMIC BELIEVERS WORLDWIDE TO VIOLENCE AGAINST THE US WORLDWIDE AS RELAYED TO THE ISLAMIC BELIEVERS AT ALL THE MOSQUES WORLDWIDE.

                Biden at DNC (as well as 6 months before): "Bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive"

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCwQnIygcw

                With the Islamic Believer Demonstrators and Islamic Jihadists Worldwide chanting:

                "OBAMA OBAMA WE ARE ALL OSAMA" DEMO IN TUNISIA

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfaKSX3m7Tk

                Cairo protesters- Obama we are all Osama

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc

                President Obama then blames this on a Mohammad video that most did not see because many do not have electricity, cell service, nor internet; and were told the video existed by the Imams at the Mosques.

                Result DEAD US CITIZENS and the Islamic World's Increased Hatred of the US for the "Murder" (their word) of their "Holy Warrior of Islam" Superstar Osama Bin Laden. This is worse than going to Italy and Murdering the Pope and continually bragging Internationally. Most Pro US and Neutral Islamic Believers Worldwide then join the Holy Warriors of Islam against the US and US Allies. This becomes the Unifying Force for the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide (Majority being Fundamentalist Islamic Believers) Against the US and US Allies Worldwide.

                And it was President Bush that kept GM alive with his: 2008 President Bush's GM and Chrysler Indicative Summary of Terms for Secured Term Loan Facility (Final Terms and Appendix).

                http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/22/barack-obama/obama-says-bush-administration-put-no-conditions-a/

                US Army Special Forces LTC Wood and his US Army Special Forces Specialized Support Teams writes up a Security Assessment for the US Embassy at Tripoli, and the US Consulate at Benghazi, as well as an "On the Ground" INSUM for Libya. This Security Assessment would have gone thru multiple channels, the President's Own Executive Intelligence Agency, the CIA, cc President Obama; SOS Clinton and the US Department of State, cc President Obama; Secretary of Defense and Pentagon, cc, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, cc President Obama; Redacted, cc President Obama; Commander US AFRICOM, cc Commander US SETAF, cc Commander US EUCOM, cc President Obama.

                US Ambassador Stevens is a Presidential Appointee, with Direct Access to President Obama.

                US Ambassador Stevens states his concerns, and requests that US Army Special Forces LTC Wood and his US Army Special Forces Specialized Support Teams remain at Libya, and or addtional US Security Forces (not Libyan). Before any of you start saying what could the few of US Army Special Forces LTC Wood and his US Army Special Forces Specialized Support Teams could have done, go learn about the previous Historically Documented DA (Direct Action) Missions of the US Army Special Forces.

                I got to see the entire Video that is more than likely going to be posted in the future as an Islamic Jihadist Training Video, that starts with Ansar Al Sharia driving up with pick up trucks with heavy machineguns, and mortars mounted to the pickup truck beds and ending with the guy in the white shirt being interviewed with looters in the background. There are also the limited video surveillance cameras of the US Consulate Benghazi, the video recovery being one of the primary missions of US AFRICOM as coordinated thru US SETAF. Just because you don't have access, just like the mission cams, video conferences for the SR Mission that turned into a DA Mission (Raid) at Pakistan in accordance with President Bush's 2006 Amending the US No Assassination Policy and previously Presidential Delegated Authority Planned Mission; go right ahead, you can wait about 20 years and obtain the information about 20 years from now thru the FOIA (Freedom Of Information Act).

                If you want to see the start to finish Islamic Jihadist videos attack on the US Consulate, learn to use the almost illegal means to circumvent the US Monitoring and Censorship that blocks the videos from the US based on IP Addresses, also learn Arabic (Title of videos)

                This training (how to) video is like the Islamic Jihadist's Training Video for their attacks against USMC Leatherneck (British Camp Baston) at Afghanistan:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT62cLdygZE&feature=relmfu

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOD2TbDlgVg&feature=relmfu

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                #5.8 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 3:02 PM EST
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                Scott Brown did not serve in Afganistan, he spent his 2 weeks of guard duty in the rear with the gear, implying otherwise is an insult to all the brave men and woman who DID serve

                • 8 votes
                Reply#6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:07 PM EST

                and where did Elizabeth Warren, Barrack Obama and Joe Biden serve?

                • 1 vote
                #6.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:46 PM EST

                navyvet: They didn't campaigned claiming to have served in the military. Brown did.

                • 10 votes
                #6.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:06 PM EST

                @navyvet98 --- Elizabeth Warren must have served at the Battle of The Little Big Horn. She claims to be part Indian.

                  #6.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:12 PM EST

                  Elizabeth Warren must have served at the Battle of The Little Big Horn. She claims to be part Indian.

                  @NC Vet: That was utterly ignorant and abusive, and the same as saying that you must have been at My Lai since you claim to be a veteran.

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:10 AM EST

                  @NC Vet:

                  When did Mitt Romney or any of his five adult sons serve? When did Paul Ryan serve?

                  Oh yeah. Mitt Romney sat out Vietnam in Paris.

                  Oops.

                  • 7 votes
                  #6.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:23 AM EST

                  I can't recall any claims by Scott Brown about service in Afghanistan. I may be wrong, but I think his ads said that he served in the National Guard but that's all.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:41 AM EST

                  it does matter whether it is Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan or any other conflict.

                  Washington and the politics need to stay out of it and listen to the commanders in the field and give all resources requested by the commanders in the field.

                  Its politics and denying resources that sacrifices lives and denies victory.

                  24 year veteran

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:46 AM EST

                  I keep telling all of you to READ the Biography of Chickenhawk Biden.

                  As to why he kept losing all his Presidential Campaigns, especially in his actual abandoned Home State of Pennsylvania (abandoned after everyone found out what he really is, did.).

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.8 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 3:43 PM EST
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                  Bob, you are right i am a big fan of Kennedy and PT109 was one of the first books I ever read, right after from ghetto to glory about Bob Gibson. Matter of fact my family had a picture of JFK on the wall at home and were/are stanch democrats for reason's today's people will never understand. I digress, but they are actually more conservative than I. You are absolutely right he would not have allowed the deaths of Americans on a preventable attack or at the least would have owned up to it.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:20 PM EST

                  Republican or Democrat, at least they have served their Country. They are the "TRUE ONE PERCENT.' The one percent of Americans who have actually defended our country.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:44 PM EST

                  For sure, couldn't have said it better! Army 11B.

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:49 PM EST

                  navyvet: Even though I am a fervent admirer of our military and the sacrifices they make, I think that you make the wrong comment by claiming that only they defended the country. When I became a citizen of this nation I tried to register for selective service and they rejected me because I was over the limit to register. That did not prevent me from defending this country for 17 years in other ways. Just because you wore the uniform does not entitle you to tell me that you made more sacrifices than me. You defended the country from your post, I did from mine.

                  • 4 votes
                  #8.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:10 PM EST

                  Good point justice for all. When I worked at DOD back in the late 60s, I spent more time in Vietnam than my brother did who wore the uniform.

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:38 PM EST

                  I think that you make the wrong comment by claiming that only they defended the country

                  This is an absolutely pathetic attempt to get attention. As an adult you should be able to acknowledge differences and handle them like a mature human being. Differences like, oh I don't know, the DIFFERENCE between being shot at for 12 months and the difference between stacking papers in your cubical.

                  Accept the fact that someone else did something you didn't.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:42 PM EST

                  There are different ways of serving but the way that risks your life and limb should be given the greatest honor because it shows the willingness to make the greatest sacrifice. People can serve in many ways, first responders, volunteers of all sorts, giving to your community is very important, but those who were in combat deserve the highest respect.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:22 AM EST

                  NavyVet

                  good post. also good justice. Not everyone is on the front-lines, but the act of serving our country in any capacity is something to be proud of.

                  We should go back to a draft with no deferments, devolop a fighting force from the most competent and dedicated, and use the remainder for some nation building here at home.

                  A case in point, Hurricane Sandy. How useful they could be, and how useful and proud it would make those involved feel, to be serving their country to be serving their countrymen.

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:42 AM EST

                  well said navyvet to have served and to have been wounded or killed serving your country to me is the highest honor, yet when I came home and was spit on and called a baby killer ! The one who spit on me got a broke nose and he lost all of his front teeth ! I love America and will defend it to the death, Most Americans really care about their vets and I ware a vietnam vetran hat and when people come up to me and want to shake my hand or give me a hug I feel a great pride, And god said there is no greater love then a man give his life for another, We are a nation of many peoples most are good but you will all ways have some rotton ones too, To all vetrans who have served My family and I thank you ............

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:48 AM EST
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                  Democrats...don't become complacent. We need to come out in strength in every election. Because many of us sat back in 2010, the Teabaggers came in power with the intent of bringing down the government.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:47 PM EST

                  What Marlene is so great about our government? Do you think they are looking out for your best interest long term? How about not turning our country into Greece please!

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:02 PM EST

                  No one is trying to turn us in to Greece, you are repeating what the guy who just LOST said. Time to look forward and tell the truth.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:27 AM EST

                  sea2see - No one is trying to turn us in to Greece, you are repeating what the guy who just LOST said. Time to look forward and tell the truth.

                  Really answer the questions below:

                  QUESTION: What did President Obama spend $2.1 Trillion on, that was not previously Budgeted for; Requring the Cuts to the previously Budgeted for Programs (like Medicare), Projects (US Army Corps of Engineer Infrastructure Projects within the US), Agencies (like FEMA, Department of Education), including chops to the Entitlements and Benefits of the "47%"; as stated by President Obama's Proposal to US Congress.

                  QUESTION: What US Laws were eliminated that made Illegal the Causes of previous Depressions. And who elminated those US Laws. And what were the Results. And why (motive) hasn't President Obama Reinstated those US Laws.

                  YOU HAVE 60 MINUTES TO POST THE CORRECT ANSWER BELOW. NO LAME EXCUSES.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.3 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 3:56 PM EST
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                  Republican or Democrat it's good to see those that served in the military are stepping up to Washington. Now if we can just get an Amendment to the Constitution that says you can't run for any office unless you have served in the military especially the President! I want the highest office in this land to be run by some one that deserves it not by some one like Romney, he ran off to France when we were at war. I'm not saying President Obama deserves it any more than Romney does but I am saying at least the President didn't run off during a war! Shame on both of them for not serving this country.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:00 PM EST

                  According to obama's account, he was still with his mother overseas so not sure where you got your info. Odd to, don't you think, that neither Barry Soreto aka Barack Obama never signed up for the Selective Service as was required by law. Now Clinton burned his draft card and went to the Soviet Union during a time of was but you have no issues with that.

                  BTW the last President to have served in combat was Bush 41.

                  The last Democrat President to serve in the Military was Bush 43 and the last Democrat to serve was Jimmy Carter.

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:19 PM EST

                  I served and though I want a President who understands those who serve and who served I do not think it should be a requirement when we have an all volunteer force. The military isn't for everyone, service in the peace core, americore, or in any way that is about the work and not about the money works for me, that's why I voted for the community organizer.

                  Let's hope that no one in the next gereration has to serve in combat!

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:14 AM EST

                  sea2see - all volunteer force.

                  Go look up Special Category Recalls to Active Duty.

                  sea2see - The military isn't for everyone

                  Should be as previously stated by Candidate Obama as his solution to stop the repeated deployment of the 1% of US Citizens of the US Military. To force the 92% that have Never served it was Candidate Obama's Solution to start the Selective Service and or Mandatory Compulsory US Military Service, as "US Military Service is a Civic Duty", and "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement".

                  The Peace Corps, Americorps, etc. are NOT even close to US Military Service and if you served you know that. The Only Profession that teaches REAL Critical Leadership is the Military. There is also the learned concepts of Personal Responsibility (and Accountability), Personal Discipline, Teamwork, and Earned Respect as only the Military does.

                  Have you researched how he became a Community Organizer (as a Political Favor, relationship to ACORN), research Chicago Politics.

                  At many Nations Mandatory Compulsory Military Service is Required as a Civic Duty.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.3 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 4:21 PM EST
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                  The coward mitt,never got my respect,as a vet

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST

                  Yet somehow you have respect for the coward obama? Weird thought patterns.. going on there.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:14 PM EST

                  what?

                    #11.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST

                    Lol, Tyler must have jilted her!

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:39 AM EST

                    I keep telling all of you to READ the Biography of Chickenhawk Biden.

                    As to why he kept losing all his Presidential Campaigns, especially in his actual abandoned Home State of Pennsylvania (abandoned after everyone found out what he really is, did.).

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.5 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST
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                    Yes, funny how a president nutted up (won't call him a coward) when a decision was necessary to save lives. We vets call that dereliction of duty at the least.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:25 PM EST

                    You are talking about something that has no basis in fact, the truth will come out but the investigation continues. While the buck may stop with the President he doesn't personally get to make every decision. I have spoken to a friend who is a diplomat and a friend of Stevens, his take, "Without 20/20 hide-site all that could have been done was done." He also added that he feels like everything and more is done to keep him and his family safe but that there can be risk depending where you are, it goes with the job. He knows more about it than we do so I am willing to wait before I judge wrongly.

                    I am sure you were taught to gather the facts first.

                    • 3 votes
                    #12.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:34 AM EST

                    sea2see - I am sure you were taught to gather the facts first.

                    Go read post#5.8.

                    After I verify the information about the RQs and AC-130s, I will add that.

                    Ozzieyo1 - Yes, funny how a president nutted up (won't call him a coward) when a decision was necessary to save lives. We vets call that dereliction of duty at the least.

                    This is not the first time President Obama "nutted up" (froze up into inaction). With someone else with previously Delegated Presidential Authority having to "Call the Shots".

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.2 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 4:35 PM EST
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                    This is a good thing.......So terrible that Chuck Webb Retired...Chuck was all VETS had in the HOUSE....If we can just get John McCain to hang it up. He has been nothing but a total let down for VETS over the past few years. In the 90's he was a real voice for the Military and the Retirees but after he ran for Office in 2008, he has just been disasterous. From voting against the 9/11 Gi Bill that we eventually got to disrespecting General Colin Powell's endorsement for Obama.

                    He has just kind of lost a lot of CLASS in my book and I used to think he was a real STANDUP guy........Not any more.......He let politics piss on HONORABLE.

                    Kudos to the New Crop. From the Uniform to the HOUSE. Stay HONORABLE and never compromise that CORE that made you a good soldier. Keep the PEOPLE first.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST

                    I bet a stupid inbred hillbilly teabagger is going to call Duckworth unpatriotic because she's a Democrat.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:41 AM EST

                    Tammy Duckworth is the very definition of courage. She is also clear-minded enough to realize that the democratic party is the REAL friend of the military, that simply giving the neo-cons the mandate to do anything and everything they want to is NOT in the best interest of the people who serve or of the country as a whole.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:18 AM EST

                    EEEEExclent!, more please!,..while this is about some gains, there are still many problems,,veterans going hungry, their kids without etc, is an absolute disgrace,...In my country![Canada] and yours! and it is something that needs to be addressed, right now!,.. how can we expect to draw good people if we dont look after them??.. it aint rocket science[though the VA,s insist it is, to their gain so very often,]...another good point is that not everyone who serves their country wears a uniform,,plenty who dont, get killed and or maimed etc as well,, in both instances, it is the person under the clothing! that really matters,,,anyways,, this is a very fine thing and is something I definitly want to see more of in Canada as well,,for most,the disabilities bother others, we get used to it,,, you may want to as well,,Like the "uniform" issue,it is the person that matters, their character,integrity,honour,, not the superficials,,,

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:19 AM EST

                    There I was, sitting at my computer in the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad in 2008, reading about Senator Jim Webb advocating for a new G.I. Bill. And what do I learn? Bush and McCain opposed the idea because it was too Expensive! Every day in Baghdad I’d walk past generators burning gas 24/7, spewing heat and smoke into the desert air to run an embassy bigger than the Vatican...and they didn’t think we could afford tuition for vets? Thankfully, it was passed...but were Americans asked to pay for it? No. No new taxes, just more added to the national debt credit card and platitudes about how much we support the troops. I’m sorry, but a yellow ribbon magnet on your SUV is not supporting the troops. Agreeing to pay a little more out of your paycheck to fund national priorities like promises made to vets does, and while your at it, supporting policies that will get us off middle east oil might help too. And in regards to the real national security dangers facing America, let’s split up or at least regulate too-big-to-fail banks so they don’t extort hard-working Americans for another bailout next time their ‘enlightened self-interest’ gets out of control. Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity, but a market does not exist without regulations. My parents moved to America because it was the land of opportunity. The prevailing “I’ve got mine, screw the rest” culture is disappointing. The wealth gap is as large as it has been since the depression. CEOs making over 200 times the salary of an average worker? When I joined the Army the number stood around 50. And what did shareholders get for all that money? Corporate scandals, Dotcom and housing bubbles bursting, quants and credit default swaps. The right likes to talk about class warfare, but the middle class has already lost the war. According to Forbes magazine, social mobility in America is now less than in France. We can do better.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#17 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:07 AM EST

                    I am a Vietnam vet, and personally I am thrilled that recent war vets are getting involved in government, and getting elected. I wish them all the success in the world. Maybe they can improve the system in the DVA and other government Veteran's service.

                    As far as these anti military a$$holes, why don't they realize, while they have the right to express their idiocy, they got that right from people who fought, suffered incapacitating injuries, and died so they can.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#18 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:34 AM EST

                    Welcome home magic dragon !!! 35 th Inf black horse here,

                    • 1 vote
                    #18.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:03 AM EST
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                    I am a sixty-eight year old military veteran. I have lived under thirteen presidents, seven Democrats, six Republicans. I have come to the conclusion the U.S. is a warring nation. No other country on earth has began engaged in as many wars, conflicts, military actions as the U.S. Consequently, we spend more than the next seventeen nations, combined, on so called national defense. Let's face it, the U.S. loves making war. Yet at the same time we don't want to pay the cost of those wars. Never should we see a combat veteran broken and homeless on our streets.

                    I had a son late in life. He's now thirteen. A strapping, intelligent young man. One thing I can say with certainty is the U.S. war machine will never get him.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#19 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:24 AM EST

                    Amen ...Brother!

                    • 1 vote
                    #19.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:13 PM EST
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                    Dragon, as far as I'm concerned the a$$holes are those politicians who want to drag our military to the far corners of the earth to kill people that don't think as we do under the guise of so-called nation building. They are destroying our economy and our young. Never have I seen so many amputees as there are now from the Gulf wars. What for?

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#20 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:49 AM EST

                    JCC, Power and oil.

                      #20.1 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 5:48 AM EST
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                      Hopefully we can get many more vets elected. Maybe then, we won't be sticking our nose in every sht hole country in the world. We can only hope. Ronrogers, I lost respect for Powell when i saw the picture of him sitting with louis farrakhan at a rally.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#21 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:50 AM EST

                      I am glad to see a new group of service men and women stepping up to help lead this country. No matter what party they represent, they are individuals who stepped up, put there lives on hold and possibly at risk for something greater than themselves. It doesn't matter whether or not they served in combat or even carried a weapon, they still deserve credit. Unfortunately, some of those who never served are now displaying their stupidity in full force with ignorant and derogatory comments and accusations. While the military does help defend our citizens when called to, service means so much more. It means helping your fellow citizens after disaster strikes. Just like the National Guard is doing right now in New Jersey and New York. It means building international friendships by building schools in Panama, providing medical care in Honduras, and serving on the Mercy or Comfort as they provide much needed care around the world. It means rebuilding a native village in Alaska and helping to provide emergency medical care here at home when tornadoes level hospitals or hurricaines like Katrina destroy commmunities. It means working with people of all races who come from many socioeconomic backgrounds. While in the service I met many individuals from poor and middle class backgrounds but also quite a few from wealthier families who obviously weren't in it for the money. These experiences provide military members with a deeper understanding of people, their country and leadership than any civilian job. I am confident that our new group of Republican and Democrat veterans will use this experience and understanding in a positive way as they work in congress and I wish them all the best

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#22 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:15 AM EST

                      I get great pleasure in knowing that the fat cats such as the Koch Brothers spent millions of dollars and failed in their attempt to buy America.

                      4 More For 44

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#23 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:17 AM EST

                      Stupid is as stupid does.

                        #23.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:25 AM EST
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                        I have read so many comments here, that it makes me proud but yet sad, to have been and always will be a voice for the Military. One comment is something I have always been for and that one says "anyone running for political office must have served his country". Our military should have the praise of every true American. A very heartfelt thanks to all of you who did. You are the true American. God bless you all. Mary Correll

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#24 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:36 AM EST

                        Military personnel tend to do better under Republicans in regards to pay raises and so on...percentages are generally higher and budgets tend to be better.

                          Reply#25 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:39 AM EST

                          You'd do well research information about military pay raises under Republican administrations. Get back to me when you've done the research.

                            #25.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                            I was in the miltary for 24 years...pay raise percentages were usually higher and budgets rarely significantly cut below requested amounts under Republican "rule".

                              #25.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST

                              Republicans Support a Large military.......which usually translates to raises.....Bush gave us some FAT raises...........sometimes twice a year...over an 8 year period......those were the good ole days.

                              For Retirees and ex military......I see Obama has done OUTSTANDING with Retirees and EX military....9/11 gi Bill....Uniforms to Jobs..Vet Job Corp Act....Presumptives for Vietnam and Iraq and Afganistan Returnees.....I could go on this President gets an A+ for Vet Initiatives..........

                              The next war will not be fought with Battleships.....beleive that...A totally Different WAR that the one we are fighting......We must equip our military for that FIGHT!

                                #25.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:22 PM EST
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