Rape remarks sink two Republican Senate hopefuls

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U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill greets supporters during an election night party in St. Louis on Tuesday.

Democrats prevailed against Republicans in two U.S. Senate races in which abortion and controversial remarks about rape played a pivotal role.

U.S. Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri — who set off a firestorm after using the phrase “legitimate rape” — and Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock — who said, “even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen” — were projected to lose their Senate races, NBC News reported on Tuesday.


Their Democratic  rivals, Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill and Indiana U.S. Rep. Joe Donnelly, are the projected winners.

Sen. Claire McCaskill wins re-election in Missouri, beating Rep. Todd Akin who came under fire for saying women had ways of preventing pregnancies in the case of "legitimate rape."

“This is a race Republicans were counting on winning,” NBC News' Andrea Mitchell said of Mourdock’s projected loss.  “This is a pickup for the Democrats, and a very important one.”

Indeed, early on in the campaign Republicans had McCaskill, 59, in their sights as a seat to pick up.

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Democrat Joe Donnelly, right, takes the stage in front of former Sen. Evan Bayh, after winning the U.S. Senate seat on Tuesday.

That seemed a fair possibility until August, when Akin, 65, was asked in a TV interview whether abortion should be legal in cases of rape. "From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare,” he replied. “If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

Akin ignored calls to quit the race from Republicans, including presidential nominee Mitt Romney and all five living Republicans who had represented Missouri in the U.S. Senate.

Akin later apologized, saying his comment was “ill conceived and wrong.” He also explained that he opposes abortion in cases of women who become pregnant after being raped because "rape is a tragedy, and I don't think it helps the first tragedy to add a second tragedy to it.”

Abortion was also an issue in the Indiana Senate campaign. When Tea-Party backed Mourdock, who had defeated six-term Sen. Richard Lugar in the primary, was asked about his opposition to abortion in all cases except when the mother’s life is endangered by the pregnancy, he left an opening for the moderate Democratic congressman Donnelly, 57, to pick up the seat.

Todd Akin says that called Claire McCaskill to concede after being defeated in the Missouri Senate race.

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, Mourdock, 61, said. “But I came to realize life is that gift from God, and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."

Donnelly's projected victory comes in a state Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was projected to win.

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Campaigning with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, voting and election results.

Mourdock later attempted to clarify his remarks, saying he did not think God intended for rape to happen, but by then Democrats were already targeting his seat. For his part, Lugar stayed out of the race and never campaigned for Mourdock.

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War on women is never right...and will never pay..

if the US invaded Afghanistan - and one of reasons is the Taliban mistreated women, then how can these beligerent Republicans have this attitude toward women here?

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If we go to war to fight for human rights in foreign lands, why can't we improve huan right here first.

I am happy that Voters rejected Akin and MourDork in Missouri and Indiana

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Forward...

  • 63 votes
#1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:31 AM EST

In the news photo, Claire is happy..me too...we all happy.

  • 21 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:37 AM EST

Those two deserved to be "sunk!" American women know life ... jobs, family, budgets, and everything between that and the kitchen sink.

Here's to the Women of America that told the old, pale, and stale that their comments were nothing but BS!

Raise a child and then get back to us!

  • 56 votes
#1.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:44 AM EST

I did all I could. Most of the Conservatives I know did all they could. I'm sorry, America. We didn't do enough.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:55 AM EST

What a win for women in america...now we can push aside republicans that block the right way and move forever forward!

  • 47 votes
#1.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:58 AM EST

Yes, it really is part of the Republican Party Platform - and they need to change that.

  • 29 votes
#1.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:13 AM EST

It's okay if our country survives four more years it's better than trying to battle through 8

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:19 AM EST

Pendragon2012

If your candidates hadn't been stupid and ignorant about women, they might have won. But they showed just how little the GOP thinks we're worth.

Your candidates deserved to lose because of their stupidity and ignorance.

  • 65 votes
#1.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:21 AM EST
Comment author avatarRepublicansForObama-6186389Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey! Guess what Teabaggers?

I'm Not really a Republican.

And yes, my "work" here is done.

See you again, four years from now.

Ain't Life grand?

ps. President Obama really was born in Kenya.

You Teabaggers were Right about that one.

Too Late now!

And he's a Muslim too!

  • 12 votes
#1.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:30 AM EST

For those of you who might be inclined to suggest that this election changed NOTHING, clinging as you do to hate and fear, consider this: Importantly, tonight Barack Obama was elected President of the United States of America, to serve through 2016.

Of equal importance, tonight Hillary Clinton was also elected President of the United States, to serve from 2016 through 2024...and there is no force on earth, none, which can preclude her ascendency.

Whatismore, tonight the Supreme Court began its unstoppable march toward progressivism. By the time Hillary departs the Oval Office, the Court will be a youthful Center-Left province, perhaps 6-3.

Sadly, it has become clear that the modern Republican Party no longer has a future at the national level, or at least for as long as they continue to ostracize the voices of compromise and moderation within their own ranks.

For the most part, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz and perhaps one or two others, those Tea Party candidates who didn't lose outright won by the slimmest of margins. Bachmann and West will likely go down within the hour.

Tonight, a majority of voters across the American political landscape chose Barack Obama and the Democrat agenda. The President won both the popular vote AND the Electoral College. The President's Senate majority increased. The Republican Party failed to expand its majority in the House.

This win was as decisive as it was overwhelming.

This election changed EVERYTHING.

  • 32 votes
#1.9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:35 AM EST

Wake up the GOP!

Your backwards reactionary agenda and your condescending goal to chastise women, do not have a place in America. Do not forget, that the American woman also has the right to vote. Neither Akin,nor Mourdock deserved a place at the political table of respect and compassion for the women.

Senators MacCaskill and Donnelly, congratulations on your well-earned victories!

  • 37 votes
#1.10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:40 AM EST

Indiana is a very strong republican state, and Donnelly was pulling ahead of Mourdock even before his rape comment. Mourdock's comments about not compromising in congress, and not working with the democrats, did not sit well with the Indiana voters. If the tea party wants to remain a force in American politics, they are going to have to rethink their strategy. The Indiana voters are getting very tired of congress not getting anything done.

  • 31 votes
#1.11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:16 AM EST

Paul Ryan said the same thing to a reporter - that is why he was sent to Georgia and places South and told never to talk to another reporter.

He said that he didn't agree with abortion even in the case of rape. "the manner of conception isn't important" he said.

  • 28 votes
#1.12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:24 AM EST

I would Fan & Fave you if I could Ms. Pig - You go Girl!

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:09 AM EST

Said it before, will say it again; the religious right in this country are NO DIFFERENT than the muslim extremists- the only difference between the two are these people take their craziness to politics versus random acts of violence.

Luckily the rest of us realize it and put a stop to them....

  • 28 votes
#1.14 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:30 AM EST

If a stupid remark makes you unqualified for office, why is Joe Biden still VP???

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:34 AM EST

It wasn't just their comments on rape. It was also their stances on abortion.

No woman should ever have to lay bleeding after a rape. No woman should ever have to lay bleeding after an illegal abortion.

Binders full of women have spoken. We will not go back.

  • 29 votes
#1.16 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:58 AM EST

It couldn't have happened to two more deserving religious hypocrites than Murdock and the other idiot. Nothing gets me more than the religious right wrapping themselves in the Bible and then spouting evil demonic words. Disgusting.

  • 15 votes
#1.17 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:39 AM EST

Bill,

Because laughing and making flubs is nothing like making out and out republican lies during the campaign

Stupid is Michelle Bachmann spending 50X's the $ and winning by 3,000+ votes out of almost 350,000. Did you close all the schools in her district and throw the kids on the streets with no education?

  • 11 votes
#1.18 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:44 AM EST

Bill,

Because laughing and making flubs is nothing like making out and out republican lies during the campaign

Stupid is Michelle Bachmann spending 50X's the $ and winning by 3,000+ votes out of almost 350,000. Did you close all the schools in her district and throw the kids on the streets with no education?

    #1.19 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:44 AM EST

    Hopefully they will serve as a wake up call to those who wish to use the Republican platform to try to legislate religious morality. As Republicans, we need to make sure people like this don't even get nominated.

    • 11 votes
    #1.20 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:48 AM EST

    All I can say are two things;

    1. GOOD!

    2. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    • 10 votes
    #1.21 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:37 AM EST

    @Pigotry- Uh, we didn't invade Afghanistan to support women's rights. We invaded to destroy the Taliban regime for not handling over Bin Laden when we asked after 9/11. Woman's rights played (plays) no part in what we are doing over there. If some semblance of democracy can be maintained in Afghanistan, greater woman's rights will be a by product.

    • 3 votes
    #1.22 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:42 AM EST

    The Repugs have now lost 5 Senate seats over two election cycles because they nominated candidates for the funny farm from the Tea Klux Klan. Keep it up, Repugs, this way we Dems can have easier times winning elections and keeping power.

    • 10 votes
    #1.23 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:42 AM EST

    I am SO glad these two guys opened up their mouths and sunk their chances of getting voted in. Had they been silent they might have made it by people voting straight republican. Thank you two for showing the voting people how truely stupid you are concerning womens rights. Goodbye and good riddence to bad rubbish.

    • 10 votes
    #1.24 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:52 AM EST

    Todd said:

    If some semblance of democracy can be maintained in Afghanistan, greater woman's rights will be a by product.

    First off, thank you for your service, Ranger.

    Secondly, thank you for your sense. And yes, women's rights have become more prevalent since we've been there--it can't have escaped anyone's notice that this summer, an Afghani woman marched in the Opening Ceremony at the 2012 Summer Olympics and competed for her country. Prior to this year, even if a woman qualified to compete per the IOC's rules, she was not allowed to by the laws of her country. This summer saw the first time a woman competed for Afghanistan, and saw the first time that every country participating in the modern Olympics had both male and female competitors--prior to this Olympics Afghanistan was the only country who didn't allow a woman to compete.

    And she was not compelled to wear a burka while doing it--she wore a headscarf out of personal choice. A small detail, but a very significant one nevertheless.

    They still have a long road to travel, but I believe they will get there in time.

    • 4 votes
    #1.25 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:10 AM EST

    Vince-545056 - It's only fair to point out that it was Republicans who elected the two Democrat Senators. They wouldn't have won had Republicans voted straight party.

    • 3 votes
    #1.26 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST

    The Republican Party is better without those two morons.

    Take the common sense pill. It'll make you feel better.

    • 7 votes
    #1.27 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:22 AM EST

    Maybe these fools can get jobs fetching coffee for Glen Beck or The Donald. They all deserve one another.

    • 7 votes
    #1.28 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST

    Well, Skup, I agree with you completely. So, now perhaps the moderate republicans will be allowed to voice their true thoughts once more and not have to worry about being skewered by the tea party types.

    The speaker of the House would have been willing to compromise with the President but was held hostage somehow by the extremists of his party.

    America works best when led by moderate republicans and left-leaning democrats. It always did in the past.

    I'm a liberal, progressive - whatever name one wants to use, and I was so very happy that the moderate republicans voted against such truly fringe far-righters. As a liberal democrat, I thank them. They served our country well.

    • 4 votes
    #1.29 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:29 PM EST

    If god meant for that life to happen from the rape...then god needs to stay out of peoples lives.

    Repubs will have a new plan. Instead of relaxing on the religious platform they will now start sucking up to mexicans. Not latino americans, mexicans.

      #1.30 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:33 PM EST

      We read about this far too ofter. An adult female teacher has sex with a middle school male student. That is defined as statutory rape. Why should the public pay for a rapist's abortion?

        #1.31 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:44 PM EST

        Take the common sense pill. It'll make you feel better

        Just don't take the Plan B pill, because that would make you a MURDERER!!!

        Why should the public pay for a rapist's abortion?

        They don't. The Hyde Amendment banned all public dollars from being used on abortions. And before you give me that "money is fungible" crap, think of it like this...

        If you deposit and than withdraw $100 from a bank, you don't get the same $100 dollar bill you deposited, when you make the withdrawal, yet the loss to the bank is the same.

        Money is fungible, math is not.

        • 3 votes
        #1.32 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:53 PM EST

        Let's just say, if you have to explain your position on rape, there's something inherently wrong with it.

        • 3 votes
        #1.33 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 3:15 PM EST

        I live in Indiana and had to endure a never ending stream of attack adds from both sides. I'm sure everyone else did too from the canidates from their states. I got to hear several choice words straight from Mourdock's mouth. I didn't care for that jerkoff at all and was so glad to see fellow Hoosiers felt the same. Guess what Mourdock, we just inflicted our opinion on you!

          #1.34 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 9:14 AM EST
          Reply

          Remember common sense, remember the Golden Rule..

          .... why have Republicans forgotten about the Golden Rule any time women and minorities are involved???????????

          • 20 votes
          #2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:36 AM EST

          I'm sure Bill Clinton was only thinking about how much he respected women while he had Monica under his desk.

          • 2 votes
          #2.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:51 AM EST

          And I'm certain Mark Foley had nothing but respect for teenage boys when he was asking them for pics of their d!ks.

          And what about - what's his name again? - that (R) Senator who was caught in the airport bathroom had nothing but respect for family values whilst he was tapping his foot...with a wide stance...

          Or "Diaper Dave" Vitter ?

          The difference - I realize this is difficult - is that (usually) (D)'s are only out to fk a consenting adult. The GOP wants to fk em all, from a legal policy perspective.

          You see the difference?

          • 11 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:10 AM EST

          The GOP cant relate to other people. All they know is their own extremist desires. They scream about "redefining marriage" for gays as if their definition is the only one; and then they try to redefine voting rights for American citizens in such a way as to affect an impending election. They say they will fix the fiscal problem, but in return for that they have to take away a woman's right to control her own body. Obviously, the people didnt bite on that one. Republicans need to take a look at their antiquated views that are irrelevant with today's America and only growing more so. I hope they get it together because it would be better for all of us. Respect the rights of other people.

          • 7 votes
          #2.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:33 AM EST

          So I can take the worst of the Democrat party and try to pass them off as representative for every Democrat? Here a few examples.

          Still see a difference?

          David Wu - Sexul assualt of 18 year old

          Gary Condit - Slept with then murdered Chandra Levy.

          Roosevelt Dobbins - Fondled a 16 year old.

          Neil Goldschmidt - Molested a 14 year old.

          Mel Reynolds - Molested a 16 year old campaign volunteer

          Brock Adams - 8 women accused him of rape.

          Barney Frank - Ran (or let be run) a male prostitution ring out of his house.

          Fred Richmond - soliciting sex from a 16 year old boy.

          • 2 votes
          #2.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:40 AM EST

          Come on Skup, drink the cool aide already! Don't you know that Republicans need to be thrown into the fire when they screw up and Democrats deserve a pass because Republican policies were the reason they screwed up.

          What I find most interesting is the fact that most Conservatives are willing to listen to the liberal arguments, but liberals won't listen to conservative arguments without screaming racist, sexist, elitist, etc.

          • 3 votes
          #2.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:49 AM EST

          Hey Skup, that is 12 years ago, do us all a favor, go back to your trailer put the barrel firmly against your forehead and pull the trigger. You too Todd, and you wouldn't know a conservative if it bit you in the A$$, Reagan Godwater those were conservatives, all you are is white trailer trash that can't deal with people that look different than you and you probablay wet your pants around strong intelligent woman. Now Todd you after Scup is done you pick it up and place the barrel against your head and firmly pull the trigger.

          • 3 votes
          #2.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:36 AM EST

          Ah Skup...

          You just don't "get it" do you?

          People are typically driven to vote on POLICY (How will this affect me?). What kind of laws will be passed that impact me?

          It's really not a difficult concept. But here, I'll give an illustration:

          Did Clinton's affair with Monica have an impact on me? Did I make less as a result? Did my healthcare costs go up as a result? Did my taxes go up because he had an affair with Monica? Was a war started? Did the government try to pass some draconian Patriot Act or create some hideous sounding "Homeland Security" gestapo as a result?

          No.

          Clinton's affair with Monica did NOT impact me.

          You understand? You get it? Am I spelling it out slowly enough for your cognitive processes to absorb the meaning here?

          • 4 votes
          #2.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST

          @Skup and @Todd -- you guys still don't get it, do you? If you are going to keep clining to this kind of crap, it's going to be a long, long time before the Repubs ever get back in the White House, again.

          ... just sayin'

          • 6 votes
          #2.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:28 PM EST

          It would be hard to be more liberal than I am, but I think Skup is right about republicans voting against Aiken and Murdouck. That's a good, good thing, fellow democrats. Those type of republicans need to take their party back and not be so intimidated by these tea party thugs. So happy that the country won't have to be embarrassed by these types. Republicans also voted against the sometimes want-to-be witch in the northeast (forget her name) and that really crazy Sharon Angle. Thank you republicans for that, too.

          Now, let's move off the Bill Clinton topic. His personal "difficulties" didn't hurt any of us - only him and his family. But I sure did well financially when Pres. Clinton was president. :)

          • 6 votes
          #2.9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:36 PM EST

          @ rapidrush

          Yeah that is why the country is almost split 50/50 because people can't relate to the republicans. It is this bleak, foggy view that scares a person... No common sense, and a bias attitude that blocks the truth. Yes the democrats won but when you look at the numbers the country is still divided.

          • 1 vote
          #2.10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST

          kat-1015719 - Whose clinging? I was simply making a point that not all Republicans feel the same way these two idiots do the same way that not all Democrats feel interns should be on there knees under the desk.

            #2.11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:40 PM EST

            @skup, pardon me, the word should have said "clinging."

            But I do stand by my remark: If you guys don't wake up and smell the coffee, it's going to be a long time before another Repub hears "Hail to the Chief."

            Open your eyes "eyesopen" -- I think it's more like 48/51!

            • 1 vote
            #2.12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:05 PM EST

            BabyBoomer48 - I only wish the Democrats in MN would have returned the favor and got rid of Bachmann for us...

            • 1 vote
            #2.13 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:07 PM EST

            kat-1015719 - You're still missing my point. Not all Republicans, myself included, will stand for idiots like Akin and Mourdock. This is pretty evident by the fact that were not elected in a state the went solidly to Romney. People like pigotry like to take examples of bad Republicans and try to pass them off as representative of the party. The media doesn't help the situation much because folks only like to read about the squeaky wheels. Personally, I thinks this election is exactly what the GOP needed to start marginalizing the extreme right wing of the party. BTW, I wasn't pointing the spelling error. I make enough mistakes myself.

              #2.14 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:19 PM EST

              @Dan- Thanks for your kind words. You have proved my point yet again about liberal name callers. You assume I'm a racist but you didn't know I'm married to a lovely Latina. You think I live in a trailer but I have an apartment in Northern Virginia and a house on a golf course in Georgia. I do have a rather large gun collection though I don't intend to use any of them on myself.

              I'm a fiscal conservative. Don't confuse we with the moral zealots that some conservatives are. I don't care about gays serving in the military, women's reproductive rights, or who you marry. I'm concerned that we are spending far more than we are taking in, and at some point we will have to pay it back and live within our means.

              I'm concerned with Washington's ability to steal from one program to fund another and then claim it saved us a ton of money.

              I'm concerned that our economy is stuttering again and every politician seems to think that throwing money we don't have at it will fix everything.

              I'm concerned with paying $4 a gallon for diesel for my VW that comes from Saudi Arabia or Nigeria when we can produce that fuel right here in the U.S.

              Those issues concern me. We are wasting hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud, waste, abuse, and graft and that needs to stop.

              Now let me go look for my trailer you claim I live in. Oh by the way, I'd gladly live in a trailer that I own rather than sponge off your tax dollars and live in government housing because I'm either too lazy, too stupid, or made some bad choices in life and can't hold a decent job.

              • 1 vote
              #2.15 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:47 PM EST

              Hey, Skup - I have mentioned many times that most Republicans are very good..with common sense....and a two-party competition is truly in the best interest of the great nation....no party is right on every issue...for ever...even when party leaders were wrong on some issues, many other members could still be right.

              .

              take it easy.

              • 1 vote
              #2.16 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:28 PM EST

              Pigotry - Sorry, that last comment shouldn't have been directed at you. It gets frustrating being associated with the religious right.

                #2.17 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:15 PM EST
                Reply

                american women the backbone of the country ... stand tall

                • 39 votes
                Reply#3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:55 AM EST

                "Filipino tilt-a-whirl operators are this nations backbone!"

                • 1 vote
                #3.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:04 PM EST

                Great movie!

                At least there wasn't any baby punching by the candidates.

                  #3.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:12 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Tea Party, you don't speak for me.

                  • 26 votes
                  Reply#4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:01 AM EST

                  When will they ever learn? Maybe the next generation of republicans.

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:04 AM EST

                  I'm so sad at what the republican party has become. I feel like I have no home :( Isn't there a place for real conservatives anymore?

                  • 15 votes
                  Reply#6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:06 AM EST

                  Yes Robert we're called Libertarians

                  • 9 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:20 AM EST

                  Robert,

                  I feel the same exact way. They have gone insane and stupid. As long as they remain that way, they've lost my vote entirely.

                  • 19 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:22 AM EST

                  I agree with SGFitzs. Real conservatives are called Libertarians. The "conservatives" in the GOP are just holy rollers. They preach fiscal responsibility, but after the election, their main focus is flag burning, abortion, gay rights, and saving Terry Schiavo.

                  Plus the GOP these days isn't doing a good job of courting Latinos. Seems like they are almost trying to make their party extinct within the next 10 years.

                  • 21 votes
                  #6.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:05 AM EST

                  Isn't there a place for real conservatives anymore?

                  Yes there is: Afghanistan.

                  • 11 votes
                  #6.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:34 AM EST

                  Actually there is.

                  Democrats -

                  • Tax Cuts for the 1% (renewed Bush tax cuts)
                  • Publicly state that Corporate Taxes are too high (Obama)
                  • Reformed Welfare under Clinton, cutting benefits
                  • Cut social security taxes
                  • Pushed through more Free Trade Job Off-shoring so American Corporations can have more options for off-shoring our jobs to increase the 1%'s profits
                  • Expanded drone warfare (foreign expansionism)
                  • Implemented Race To The Top and appointed the privateer Arne Duncan (a lover of charter schools / privatization) as Sec of Education
                  • Opposed the return of Glass Steagal
                  • Continued Bush's no-strings bailouts of the 1% Predator Wall Street Banksters
                  • Appointed three diff Banksters as Chief of Staff in the White House
                  • Appointed a Monsanto Lobbyist to the FDA (same as Clinton)
                  • Bernanke, Summers, Geithner, Holder
                  • Anti-social Program Cat Food Commission w/ co-chair Alan Simpson (R)
                  • Offered Corporations a "Tax Holiday" at reduced rates if they would "re-patriot" off-shore hidden stashes of cash illegally concealed
                  • Eric Holder, publicly clearing Wall Street Firms of any wrong doing (criminal)
                  • Enacting Healthcare "Reform" based on Heritage Foundation's "Reform" policy of the 90's (Obamacare was later equated to Romneycare, itself based on same policy)
                  • Renewed the Patriot Act
                  • Pushed for and helped enact amendments to FISA which shielded telecoms / spy agencies for the criminal acts of spying on Americans without a warrant
                  • Obama's Homeland Security coordinating with mayors across country on crackdown against Occupy
                  • Unleashing the DEA in states which had legalized medical marijuana and arresting state employees carrying out a function which states' citizens had voted was legal
                  • Tapping General Electric's job off-shore loving CEO for advice on "jobs"

                  Seems pretty "conservative" (used as that term is understood today, not in a way consistent to its true meaning) to me.

                  The only difference between (D) and (R) is that (R) likes to hit people with a Bible, hate on immigrants (despite the Statue of Liberty's inscription), and fire up anger primarily in the South against those who receive assistance from government, notwithstanding the fact that most Southern states receive far more government assistance than blue-state counterparts.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:23 AM EST

                  Sorry, Robert...those of us who felt the way you do left the party years ago when we realized the lunatics were running the asylum. We desperately need a third party in this country. Not even Reagan would have been able to get the nomination now because he'd be considered too centrist. That's pathetic.

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:31 AM EST

                  there are also the fiscal conservatives in the Democratic party called Blue Dog Dems...

                    #6.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:43 AM EST

                    Leaving the party only gives more power to the religious far right. There are a lot more moderate Republicans out there than people realize. The religious faction of the party gets most of the coverage because they are always getting in front of a camera trying to convince everyone they still matter.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST

                    We need something from the center, Mitch Daniels got crucified after he said, "lets put the social issues on the shelf and deal with the real issues this country faces". If you are part of a party that hates women, minorities etc. then you are no different than the people doing it, you are the same, even if you don't live in a trailer and wear a white sheet

                    • 1 vote
                    #6.9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:44 AM EST

                    Skup wrote:

                    The religious faction of the party gets most of the coverage because they are always getting in front of a camera trying to convince everyone they still matter.

                    -------

                    Exact reason why i've become an independent. How about someone in that sh%$#show party step up and knock these idiots off the platform? It hasn't happened and does not appear to be happening. Therefore they will continue to lose.

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:04 PM EST

                    It's hard for me to imagine any moderate, ethical Republican (and I'm sure they DO exist) surviving the gauntlet of Fox News. Any Republican displaying the slightest hint of willingness to work with Democrats for the common good is flayed mercilessly by them. Case in point, Governor Christie. How DARE he praise Obama??? Even when it was deserved. Sad that such a negative force has so much influence - although apparently not as much as they thought.

                    • 5 votes
                    #6.11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:24 PM EST

                    Look what happened to Huntsman when he tried to run as a
                    sober, reasonable, moderate Republican.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:46 PM EST

                    100% agree with 1SGFitzsWife4ID.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.13 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:16 PM EST

                    Kristan We have more than two parties but they do not get the monetary backing to run a campaign like the Dems. and Repubs.I would also like more choices and don't vote across party lines.I voted for Romney because I felt that Obama had his chance and did not do what he promised therefore I felt that he should have been fired.With a population as big as America and all of these candidates for Congerss,Senate and President cannot possibly be the best that this country can do.

                      #6.14 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:42 PM EST
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                      Thank you Tea Party for the gift in Indiana.

                      Now watch as the GOP and Tea Party implode with the infighting and finger pointing that is about to come.

                      • 22 votes
                      Reply#7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:07 AM EST

                      GOP - I guess Women Can Vote; this ain't Saudi Arabia, even though the Republicans & The Bush Family wish it were.

                      • 23 votes
                      Reply#8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:07 AM EST

                      Bush was so 4 years ago are you really going to spend the next 4 years blaming?

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:20 AM EST

                      1SGFitzsWifw4ID,

                      libertarians should understand economic cycles better than that question (which sounds more tea partyish) suggests. Of course the effect of the BushCheney lobal nuclear winter will be felt for many, many years to come. That's why it has been taking so long just to get to where we are. It would be like that even without the treason espoused by mitch mcconnell and the others who are specifically bent on America's failure.

                      • 11 votes
                      #8.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 3:49 AM EST

                      Bush was so 4 years ago are you really going to spend the next 4 years blaming?

                      I know four years seems like a very long time to young people, but we will be paying for Bush's insanity for decades.

                      • 18 votes
                      #8.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 6:31 AM EST

                      All I'm saying is they're blaming Bush still for things that President Obama has not only continued to do but has added on to also

                      patriot ac

                      ndaa

                      "bush" tax cuts

                      by continuing Bush policies he now owns them, they are now Obama policies.

                      • 1 vote
                      #8.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST

                      Didn't President Obama spend more in 4 years than President Bush did in 8?

                      So by Singletermlimits logic, our great grand kids will be paying for President Obama's shopping spree for years to come.

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:54 PM EST
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                      I am the economy of this county. I have never voted straight democrat and have been a republican for 20 years. But if I don't stand up now - when? What is scary is these individuals in the republican party think they know what is best for me. I am old enough to know what the binders of women represented and was grateful I was one in the binder but that was three or four elections ago. We are way past the binder era. The republican party has been so focused on their own moral agenda they have left use hanging off the cliff. It was more important to control women on choice than to do their job they were elected to to. Do you hear me now!

                      And I wont be leaving the republican party but I won't stand by and let the nut run the place. You don't represent me and what I believe is a republican.

                      • 22 votes
                      Reply#9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:08 AM EST

                      "Do you hear me now"? Time will tell. The question was asked a few minutes ago to a Republican stalwart, "who's in control of the GOP tomorrow morning?"

                      Is it Boehner? Ryan? Santorum? Whoever it is will not sleep well tonight.

                      Self-inflicted.

                      • 23 votes
                      #9.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:17 AM EST

                      LKNRaging, Of course, if it were to become the nut, santorum, it will fully, finally, and forever, kill the once grand old party.

                      • 10 votes
                      #9.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 3:54 AM EST

                      I am one of the 39% of white males that voted for the President, 55 and make 6 figures. I don't think a bunch of white middle aged men should have the right to tell a woman what she should do with her body. The grand old party has become the party of hate. They don't like anybody of color which is the tea party part of the Republicans, they are not fooling anybody they are just the ugly head of the Klan raising its head once again, women and gays are hated by the religious taliban part of the party and that is why they lose national elections. Virginia and Florida will be more and more blue every year and just wait until AZ and then Texas goes. The GOP will be the rich pulling the strings on the white trailer trash in the south.

                      • 3 votes
                      #9.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:33 AM EST

                      Dan, please! While I agree with most of your posting, could you leave us trailer folk alone? LOL! I have a BA in political science, voted straight Dem to balance out the upstate NY business as usual Republican vote (Rep Hanna said women in this country should vote Dem as the Repubs aren't going to do anything for women), and I'm fairly liberal. The only thing I'm particularly conservative about is money. And the waste thereof. So have mercy, sir!

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                      Dan? re: "grand old party has become the party of hate"

                      I have a slightly different perspective there. It's more the politics of FEAR...there has to be an ENEMY, a boogey man....some big, scary thing to rally around and get folks fired up over. And the leaders of the conservative movement are masters of manipulation.

                      What we NEED in the Republican party is new leaders with new ideas and a fresh perspective, without demonizing their fellow Americans. Wouldn't that be a pleasant change (from BOTH sides)

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:07 PM EST

                      Most of the hate I see posted in this forum is coming from the left. I'm just sayin..

                        #9.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:57 PM EST
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                        God intended Mourdock to be fired and it was a legitimate firing for Akin

                        • 46 votes
                        Reply#10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:13 AM EST

                        Thank y'all for voting for Obama it's much easier to get rid of him in 2016 then it would be to try and get rid of the other side of the same coin in 8 more years.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:22 AM EST

                        1SGFitzWife4ID-Kind of like how you got rid of him last night? But don't worry, the country has spoken and picked the best man for the job. Good luck with the Libertarians next time........by the way, who was your candidate this time? Any body besides Fitz know? Paul Ron wasn't it? or was it Patron?

                        • 1 vote
                        #11.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST

                        Ummmm, he can't run again in four years. Constitution say so.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST

                        I wasn't trying to get rid of him last night, I knew my candidate didn't stand a chance but I still voted my conscience and can look at myself in the mirror.

                        I preferred President Obama winning to Romney, if you re-read my statement you'll see that. Republicans and Democrats make no difference to me two sides of the same coin.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:03 PM EST

                        @1SGFitzsWife4ID

                        Well said! Someone with open eyes! People are too divided and bias to the see the real truth.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:21 PM EST
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                        1SGFitzsWife4ID go to bed, no one care about the drivel you post.

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:25 AM EST

                        Hey as long as Obama won right! I mean who cares that the country is split 50/50 on every major issue because of bias attitudes and a cult following to one of the two only major parties to choose from. You can't see past the tip of your nose Big Trouble.

                        • 2 votes
                        #12.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:24 PM EST

                        We could have all voted for Roseanne Barr.She said she is for socialism and she does own a nut farm.She doesn't sing the Star Spangled Banner very well but she is outspoken to a fault.Her big mouth would have started World War III and we could have gotten it over with. Seriously though,every year I get so disgusted at what both parties have to offer but I feel that everybody should exercise their right to vote.

                        • 1 vote
                        #12.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:49 PM EST
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                        The GOP...grand ole dead party..is just that..if it does not change its ways begining tonight and become less fanatic and rigid...it will be all over for them....

                        • 20 votes
                        Reply#13 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:28 AM EST

                        Tea Party extremism cost Indiana a GOP Senate seat. Lugar would have destroyed Donnelly in this election.

                        • 15 votes
                        Reply#14 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:29 AM EST

                        Let the backbiting, throwing under the bus Republican campaign begin! Scorched earth policy soon in effect. Just watch how they blame everything on Cristy, Sandy, Latino voters and every other falsehood they can find. But the most visible fact to what is wrong is their Neo-Con, far right wing nuts of a party.

                        • 21 votes
                        Reply#15 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:32 AM EST

                        You're right, Outzider. And as long as they blame others, their own problems will never be corrected. I hope their attitude doesn't destroy the GOP. I want my party back.

                        • 2 votes
                        #15.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 5:11 AM EST
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                        Don't mess with American women!

                        • 22 votes
                        Reply#16 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:35 AM EST

                        wow i cant believe Romney lost..must be wrong hahahahahaha

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#17 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:35 AM EST

                        I think Florida is still hand counting ballots. LOL

                        • 2 votes
                        #17.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:29 AM EST

                        That's only because we have the stupidest Governor in history! He did everything in his power to try and suppress the vote (did you see the lines in Miami at 10:00 pm?), but even his money and sucking-up power didn't help either. I don't believe you heard much from Mittens about Ricky Scotty endorsing him (kinda like "W"), as he is the plague to the GOP and almost everyone else. This is what you get when a rich bitch like Rick Scott buys his Governorship! Oh well, I'm guessing the momentum will help elect a Democrat next go round, as Skeletor has to go!

                        • 2 votes
                        #17.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST

                        Gov Scott definitely must go for sure and is totally responsible for the vote turning out like it has. This is even worse than what happened in 2008. What an embarrassment for the State of Florida. In fact, he's a total embarrassment and has been ever since he got voted into office. I still can't figure out why people voted for that criminally insane idiot.

                          #17.3 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 9:15 AM EST
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                          pay up tea nuts i bank at fivepointcu.in port Arthur TX.

                          • 7 votes
                          Reply#18 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:36 AM EST

                          oh where oh where are the tea nuts tonight .who thought would win by a land slide tonight..oh where oh where can they be...sing along folks

                          • 9 votes
                          Reply#19 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:38 AM EST

                          You do realize that although you won by a large margin, almost 50% of the votes still went to Romney... How can you ignore that number?! I mean the country is still pretty much divided 50/50 and you still happy with that.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:32 PM EST

                          It works for me.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:33 PM EST
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                          hey hannity...you were wrong hahahahahaha..again..remember his first election

                          • 13 votes
                          Reply#20 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:39 AM EST

                          remember folks this is not over..2 years vote the rest of the tea nuts out of office

                          • 19 votes
                          Reply#21 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:41 AM EST

                          My congratulations to Obama/Biden! Now we need to work to get rid of the tea party.

                          • 9 votes
                          #21.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 7:16 AM EST

                          Yeah the economy, education, international affairs, healthcare..... should put a back seat to the ultimate threat, the tea party. Is that really your priority? Or you just got your head shoved so far up your ass you stopped making sense...

                            #21.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:30 PM EST
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                            Its very positive that these too men who have such a low opinion of women got defeated.

                            • 16 votes
                            Reply#22 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:47 AM EST

                            I just love that he said his comment on rape pregnancy was "ill conceived."

                            The best puns are the unintentional ones... :D

                            • 26 votes
                            Reply#23 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:49 AM EST

                            I guess the GOP didn't believe that women are 54 percent of the electorate. They probably still don't. 'Dang, there can't be that many broads that vote, could there?'

                            • 15 votes
                            Reply#24 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:52 AM EST

                            Rape is so 47%

                            • 1 vote
                            #24.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:18 PM EST
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                            You know who will be saddened by Akin and Mourdock losing? Late night comedians. Those two candidates have provided so many jokes.

                            Oh, who am I kidding. Bachman of MN and Allen West of FL are currently a few hundred votes ahead. If they pull it off, there will still be plenty of fodder for the satirists.

                            • 12 votes
                            Reply#25 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 2:02 AM EST

                            Tom, I live in a tourist area. A few years ago a couple came into where I was working. As I always did, I asked them where they were from. The woman replied, "We're from Minnesota and NO we do not know how or why Bachmann got elected". I, of course, started laughing and so did she and her husband. Guess they must have been asked about Bachmann a lot.

                            • 13 votes
                            #25.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:50 AM EST

                            Allie- being from Texas we've learned to say the same thing about Governor Perry when we travel lol.

                            • 1 vote
                            #25.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 1:05 PM EST
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