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Subscribe to RSSEven though all eyes are focused on the battle for the White House, there are 435 House members who’ll be elected next Tuesday. The House is likely to stay in Republican hands, giving Mitt Romney a helping hand if he wins the presidency, but presenting President Barack Obama with a legislative choke-point if he wins a second term, potentially limiting or blocking his agenda for at least two years.
Chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas, discusses seats Democrats would need to take control of the House, and the chances of the Republican Party gaining seats on Tuesday.
In the final days of the 2012 campaign, Democrats face a steep climb in their effort to retake control of the House, probably one that’s too steep.
Needing 25 seats to regain the majority they lost in 2010, the Democrats are fighting both against the power of incumbency and, in some states, against partisan lines drawn during last year’s re-mapping of congressional districts.
One forecasting model designed by political scientists Eric McGhee, John Sides, and Ben Highton predicts that the Democrats will gain one seat in the House. Analyst David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report said in an assessment Thursday, “the most likely outcome is no net change to a Democratic gain of five seats.”
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In an April interview on Fox News, House Speaker John Boehner said “there's a one in three chance that we could lose” the House and “we got a big challenge, and we've got work to do.” Although, that statement may have been more of a spur to motivate GOP donors then a genuinely fretful forecast of the risks to Boehner’s majority.
Karl B Deblaker / AP
House Speaker John Boehner speaks to supporters gathered at a rally in Raleigh, N.C., Saturday, Oct. 13, 2012.
But the speaker’s comment gave ammunition to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Rep. Steve Israel who flagged it for Democratic donors in an e-mail “BREAKING: He admitted it” – in other words Boehner had conceded that his majority was in jeopardy.
Even if Boehner was exaggerating for effect back in April, there are surely opportunities for Democratic gains, some of them obvious ones – such as the Democratic-leaning upstate New York district represented by conservative first-termer Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle – and others that the DCCC has worked hard to create and exploit in the last several months.
Israel “decided that we needed to expand the playing field and play offense in more Republican-held seats or else Republican outside groups would overtake us with their money. We’ve been aggressive and put them on defense in seats they never would have expected,” said DCCC communications director Jesse Ferguson.
Among the places Democrats say they have a good chance to make gains:
- California’s 36th Congressional District: Rep. Mary Bono Mack, first elected in 1998 after the death of her husband Rep. Sonny Bono, faces a genuine challenge. “Raul Ruiz, the Democrat, has clearly made this into a more competitive race than some initially anticipated it would be," said Andy Stone, spokesman for the House Majority PAC, an outside Democratic group that will have spent over $300,000 on ads in that race by Election Day.
- Florida’s 2nd Congressional District: Democrat Al Lawson is making a challenge to freshman Rep. Steve Southerland, with help from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, House Majority PAC, and a get-out-the-vote group called Fair Share Action, which is funded by AFSCME, by Denver gay rights activist and Democratic mega-donor Tim Gill, and others. The district had been represented for years by Blue Dog Democrat Allen Boyd before Southerland toppled him in 2010.
- Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District: Democrat John Ewing, the treasurer of Douglas County (Omaha), is trying to unseat Rep. Lee Terry, first elected in 1998. "We view it as a real possibility to expand the map here," said Stone. The House Majority PAC has invested $75,000 in late TV buys. The Omaha World Herald endorsed Ewing calling him “an extremely capable public servant” with “the ability to work across divides to find practical solutions.” The paper added, “After 14 years, it's time for a change.”
The New York Times' David Leonhardt talks about the jobs report and the country's fiscal future.
The DCCC “Red to Blue” list is the roster of challengers whom the party designates for financial, communications, grassroots, and strategic support. The “Red to Blue” label signals to Democratic donors that these are competitive candidates worth backing. Some on the “Red to Blue” list, like Manan Trivedi who is seeking to oust battle-hardened five-term survivor Rep. Jim Gerlach in the suburbs of Philadelphia, seem likely to fall short.
And one red-to-blue Democrat has already fallen by the wayside: Democrats had high hopes for Pete Aguilar in California’s 31st Congressional District, but he failed to win a place on the ballot, getting only 22 percent in the June open primary in which the top two finishers advance to the November ballot.
The GOP has suffered from its own unexpected events: in Tennessee, first-term Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a doctor, is under pressure after The Huffington Post reported that he had an affair 12 years ago with a patient while he was getting a divorce. The news site published a transcript of a telephone conversation in which DesJarlais allegedly counseled the woman to get an abortion.
For all the effort and money being invested in this year’s House races, in one sense, the outcome of the struggle next Tuesday was largely shaped in 2010, when conservative fervor and anger over “Obamacare” drove Republicans to the polls, resulting in catastrophic losses for the Democrats. The Republicans won 63 seats, the largest gain for either party since 1948.
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This year’s list of competitive races makes it clear once again how big a catastrophe 2010 was for the Democrats. They lost more than two dozen incumbents who’d represented Republican-leaning districts – including some long-serving members such as former House Armed Services Committee chairman Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri. The districts Democrats like Skelton once held, or the redrawn versions of them, are now mostly safe for Republicans.
“Our strategy in 2010 was to go to the seats that wanted to vote Republican,” said NRCC communications director Paul Lindsay. Democrats such as Skelton were in districts that had voted for Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain in 2008 and President George W. Bush in 2004. This year, Lindsay said, “We are competing in Republican territory; they (the Democrats) are competing in more swing territory.”
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But in 2010, Democrats also lost several districts, especially in the Northeast and Midwest, which had been Democratic turf, which they’ve had to spend money this year to try to reclaim.
To be sure, some of the first-term Republicans who are in Democratic-leaning districts seem unlikely to survive next Tuesday: Buerkle, for one, may be too conservative for her Syracuse-based district.
But in the irregular cycle of each party gaining, then losing, and then regaining the House majority, it now appears that the Democrats’ turn has not yet come.
Redistricting explains some of their challenge.
Not all redistricting has worked to the Republicans’ advantage: they’ll lose some races in Illinois and California due to re-mapping. But Republicans were able to play defense. Case in point: Pennsylvania.
Pollster and political scientist Terry Madonna at Franklin & Marshall College said Pennsylvania Republicans did “a masterful job” in gerrymandering the state’s congressional districts, calling it “the most skillful gerrymander any state has done.” The Republicans protected their incumbents, especially the four freshmen elected in 2010.
The only House seat now in play in the Keystone State is a Democratic one held by Rep. Mark Critz, Madonna said.
He added that the $5.4 million investment of Republican money on TV ads in the presidential race in Pennsylvania in the final ten days of the campaign might give a lift to Critz’s GOP opponent Keith Rothfus by boosting Republican turnout.
When all the votes are counted, it seems almost certain that House Democrats will have much more work to do in 2014.
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So we are going to see the status-quo in DC? Does not sound good for the country.
Yes, We can. People are fed up by John Boner...time for change.
While the Republicans have a cakewalk to take the Senate.
If the dems don't get the House (which is doesn't look like they will), they need to shame the republicans into rescinding their tax pledge and work with the Senate and Obama to get something done.
This tax pledge is almost treasonous. It keeps them from fulfilling their responsibility for doing what's best for the country. With this pledge, they cannot raise taxes anyway, anyhow. That means we are stuck with the rich paying a 15% tax rate and the middle class paying a 25% tax rate or more. How is this good for the country? The selfish-right calls themselves conservative, but their ideas are beyond radical.
The 15% is on capital gains which is already taxed as income before it is invested. It is called double taxation. The wealthy already pay more than the rest of the country and oh the Dems in the Senate are holding hostage the middle class tax cut because they want the rich to pay more. NO one should have to pay higher taxes. Cut spending, lessen regulation, balance the budget and watch the jobless numbers plummet and the economy grow. Pretty simple! The approach we are taking of higher spending, more regulation and more texas has gotten us stagnant GDP growth, pathetic job growth and an unemployment rate that is now the same as when Obama and the Dems took over. Yeah like we need 4 more years of that!!
DO YOU WANT MORE OF THE SAME IN WASHINGTON - NOTHING GETTING DONE?
Please read this:
"GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html
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YES, on "Day One" the ReThugLicans made a pact to HURT the American people, because they wanted power more than they wanted US to succeed. They even voted against bills they wrote themselves!
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There was a RECORD # of filibusters in the ReThugLican-controlled Congress - look at this chart-
"The history of the filibuster, in one graph"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-history-of-the-filibuster-in-one-graph/2012/05/15/gIQAVHf0RU_blog.html
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VOTE DEM, STRAIGHT TICKET . . . . for TRUE bi-partisanship in DC . . . . Then, after the election stay on top of your representatives - make them work for US!
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O & JOE! 4 more!
Hole122000: I agree...Grover Norquist is a traitor - he is one who has tried to destroy America with the tax pledge. As Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes says - taxes are what we pay for civilization. Who would want to drive on a bridge that breaks down...remember a bridge in Minnesota Twin city...tax dollars help improve those...but unfortunately there is no bridge to the future with GOP and Pee Potty
You know, the Democrats don't need to actually gain a majority in the House, just get rid of the Professional Obstructionists, Tea Partyers, Boehner, Ryan,Cantor etc. Then compromise becomes possible again and all's right with the world.
Trickle up poverty’
Is on the way.
If King Obama,
Gets his way.
Take from the rich,
Give to the poor.
We know for sure,
It doesn’t work any more.
Bring the rich down,
Is not the way.
For Obama and team,
Upon this day.
Lift the poor up,
One rung at a time.
With education and training,
It works just fine.
God blessed this great land,
Many moons ago.
But Obama’s plans,
Are not the way to go.
John D. 10/6/12 USN 71-77
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@blg95 . . . This has been thoroughly de-bunked - reducing taxes for the wealthy does not create jobs or help the economy grow:
"Tax Cuts For The Rich Do Little To Boost Economy, Job Market: Studies"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/bush-era-tax-cuts-economic-growth_n_1910344.html
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"Republicans Censor Government Report That Debunks 'Tax Cuts Create Jobs' Myth"
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/republicans-censor-government-report-debunks-tax-cuts-create-jobs-myth
VOTE DEM! vote out the party of "NO!"
The gridlock in Washington is due to a lack of leadership in the White House, plain and simple. You elect Obama again, you get the same results. Obama and Harry Reid will not work across the aisle.
With all the money that has been spent on shovel ready jobs, every American should have a job. But instead we have a dismal and stagnant report.
Capital Gains is double taxation? Many of the Plutocrats have never worked a day in their lives. Their trust funds have always made their money via capital gains. And do you know what they do with their tax breaks? They put them in their pockets. You know what the government does with tax income? It spends it on goods and services within the economy. That's why the economy has been better under democratic presidents (governments) than under republican.
The rich need to be taxed more. In the 50s, the top 1% were in a 90% tax bracket. In the 60's, it was in the 70%s. They did OK then and they would do OK now if they were taxed enough to get us out of this crisis. But they are too SELFISH. They feel ENTITLED. The wealth gap between the rich and middle class is sky-rocketing. And that is not good for the overall health of the economy, the health of the middle class, the health of our infrastrcture, nor the health of the future of this country.
Odd how they're not upset about Benghazi or the Rev that gave the benediction at BO's anaugeration now saying "all whites are going to hell" -- oh but he back tracked and said it was a joke. Don't see anyone calling Rev Lowry a bigot or racists. Hypocrites!
JERSY GIRL 1 - If you are from Jersey, I hope all is well with you.
I bought a 40.00 dollar bottle of Moet for Tuesday and I will drink it with my husband either win or loose. However, with the economy last report showing the economy stuck in parking, I will almost bet that Mitt will be the next President of the Country. It will be close and I will not behave that the wacko liberals on this site.
It is strange, I never listen to FOX news before because I always heard that they were bias, and yes they do have some commentators that are, but by God not as bias as you are NBC "National Barack Campaign" You and that Rachel Maddog and her pannel are worst than Glenn Beck by 4 trillion miles.
Below, is what I mean. You can link to it and also read that it benefits both candidates.
The final monthly jobs report before Election Day offered a mixed bag of economic evidence that quickly became political putty for the presidential candidates, with the unemployment rate ticking up to 7.9 percent but the economy adding a better-than-expected 171,000 jobs.
At the same time, the number of unemployed grew by 170,000, roughly the same amount -- to 12.3 million.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/unemployment-rate-rises-to-7-percent-economy-add-171000-jobs/#ixzz2B5SIC8FM
Righwingers: do you really think that reducing taxes and increasing defense spending will lower the deficit? Why did it fail when we tried it before?
As to the potential for more gridlock - is it really that bad? Deficit was down $100b this year, $100b the year before, and $200b the year before that. Not a bad trend. Meanwhile unemployment fell from 10.2% to 7.9%; the DJIA rose from 6600 to 13200; terrorism attacks are down globally; consumer confidence is the highest in 5 years; manufacturing added 5 million jobs in two years; retailers report increasing sales.
Heck, if we stick with those trends for another 4 years, we'll start to talk about Obama the way that we now talk about Clinton.
Do we really want to see if instead in 4 years, we talk about Romney the way that we now talk about Bush?
Aside to concernedditizen: calling Rachael Maddow "Maddog" exposes your nature. Rachael Maddow is actually extremely accurate, and willing to admit errors, and a thousand times more polite and reality-based than Glen ("the president is a racist" Beck). I'll bet you never watched Rachael for one full show, and if you did, you can't find a single statement that she made to be either incorrect or unfair.
We are in for at least a couple more years of congressional cock blocking no matter who wins the presidential race.
Repubs likely to retain control of the house, and will continue their status quo if Obama wins.
Dems likely to retain control of the senate, and would definitely institute shenanigans if Romney wins.
50% of us lose on Tuesday, and 100% (well maybe just 99%) will suffer as the ineffectiveness of our tainted political system drags these sham charades out.
The dems will not get the house back and if the worst happens and obama wins again, the last four years are going to look like child's play. We, the conservatives, are never going to sit back while those we elected sell us out to the liberal - let’s give it all away - crowd. If the dems want to see compromise, they should probably begin practicing voting yes to a balanced budget, deficit reduction, tax cuts, less regulation and smaller government because that is the only compromise that will be in their futures.
Dottiesgirl -
Where were you when Bush/Cheney's phony war killed thousands of soldiers or when Bush not heeding warning about terrorism left 3000+ Americans dead? 4 vs 5,000. You should have been worried 10-12 years ago!
Obama stays in the White House.
Dems will hold the Senate.
Pukes will hold the House, though Dems pick up some seats.
blg95 - Please enlighten me on how the sale of stocks is double taxed. When you buy stock and sell for a profit after a certain time, it is taxed at capital gains rate - 15%. There is no double taxation. If you buy an investment property and sell it for a 100,000 gain, there is no double taxation. Get your facts straight and quit misleading people. If you receive dividends from a corporation, they have been taxed at a rate of zero to 35 percent. Average being about 22%. So the average plus 15% would be 37% taxes on millions of dollars of income. Just slightly more than the top rate for people that have to actually work for a living. Plus if you lose money in the stock market, you can deduct it from your profits, which makes the gamble a little more sure.
justicenonexistent - I think you need to look up the word "compromise." It doesn't mean giving you everything you want.
Suzq, I bet those families of the 4 dead don't minimize them like you just did. Dead is dead, and if Obama is responsible or negligent, then he needs to be held accountable. Also, just for the record, I was worried 10 years ago, and I still am. Bush was not right, but that is no excuse for Obama's failures. We need a new path, and Obama's is over 30 years old.
The reason Romney can't get elected is because of the "scorched earth" policies of the Republican led House of Representatives. As a former Republican, I'll wait until the party shows it can reach across the isle before ever supporting them again. Imagine, supporting a political party that votes out of spite rather than doing what is best for the country.
The Dems will be lucky if they don't lose 60 more seats like 2010.
The reason Obama can't be re-elected is because he'a an assclown. He was elected by white guilt and will be throw out because he pissed off every color in the Crayola spectrum.
2010 was a low turnout year and the republicons did well.
2012 is a high turnout year and the Democrats are doing well. If the 47% remember that the republicons created exactly "0" jobs in the last 2 years the Democrats will do very well.
blg95,
Capital gains does not tax money that was taxed before. Capital gains is the difference between the price you paid for something and the price you sold it at. If more, it is gains, if less it is a capital loss, which can be deducted. The original investment does not figure into the tax owed in any way. to tax capital gains at a rate less than wages is immoral. It is saying that the government should tax income earned by the sweat of one's brow at a higher rate than income earned by having enough money to sit on your backside and live off the profits of buying and selling stock.
When children throw tantrums because they don't agree with what their parents decide, the parents have two choices: they can change their minds to placate their child in the short term, or they can insist on their decision and indicate that tantrums don't win the day.
When the House decided to throw a tantrum because they didn't like what the American people decided in the '08 election, they were directly challenging the authority of the public to make the decision we made. They essentially told the public that we were wrong, and they weren't going to stand for it.
This is why re-electing Obama is not a 'status-quo' action. It is, in fact, the first time in four years that the public has a chance to tell the extremists in the House, who have shut down our government, blocked our policy wishes and even tried to hurt us economically, that their tantrums have not changed our minds, that we meant it when we said we were not going back to the policies that destroyed the economy and hurt so many people, and that they need to straighten up and live with our decision.
We know who created problems in Washington, and it is time to put an end to it. As any responsible parent knows, appeasing our children when they throw a tantrum only encourages that kind of behavior in the future. It is time to let them know we will not be swayed by their red-faced threats. It is time to show resolve, and re-elect President Obama.
Thank you ir12.
And to blg95. You DO comprehend that Mitt Romney's entire income appears as capital gains. He didn't earn or invest his own money. He syphoned off profits from investments using OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY....made a killing and then hid the fortunes in all manner of financial instruments, then draws money from those investments as capital gains, thereby paying an obscenely lower tax rate. To those of us who actually work for a living, having our pensions gutted and our companies sold out from under us....then be forced to train our replacements in China is the ultimate slap in the face...
Some VERY shrewd finance guys (like Romney) figured out they can make money off other people's money, privatize the profits, push the risk back on the govenment and walk away with their gains, then pay little to NO taxes on their "earnings" and that is all good with YOU, right?
Concerned,
The foxnews article that included 171,000 jobs gained, 170,000 jobs lost, implied that no net jobs were created. WRONG.
the first number, 171,000 was the NET number, INCLUDING those lost--this means 341,000 were GAINED and 170,000 were LOST.
This is how FOX Bullsh!ts you into thinking what they want you to think. They IMPLIED that NO JOBS were GAINED. Which is obviously what you took away. That is WRONG. 170,000 MORE jobs exist.
Has anyone really paid any attention to so many of these "House" republicans up for re-election and/or running for election? About 15 of the sons-a-bitches are either "rapist's" incognito or "rapist's" wannabee's. While I'm not accusing the electorate of scrapping the bottom of the barrel, especially since these fools all appear to be "top floaters" I am accusing someone of knowingly planting these perverts into our political pool.For the sake of females, women and girls everywhere, we need to be responsible enough to drain and strain that filth from our process. Pack of slimy sons-a-bitches, and Paul Ryan is one of 'em!
The GOP, the party of liars and bullchitters.
Nothing has really changed since the 2010 mid-terms. The dems are still whining about the republicans blocking jobs and at the same time talking about how good Obama is doing with bringing jobs back. Kind of strange when you think about it. What changed? The republicans took back some control and jobs are coming back slowly yet the dems complain about the repubs blocking jobs bills? So I strongly believe that the shellacking of the 2010 elections is going to continue on Tuesday. The republicans take back the Senate, gain more in the House and Romney/Ryan head to the White House. What a great country we wil be again. Yes it will take time but you will see results much quicker than what we have seen in the last 4 years. This administration has been a failure. Our President is a failed leader.
1/20/2013 - the end of an error
bigdogg - nice comment, so much thought, is that you Barack?
SmBusOwnerinNY - Can you give a little credit to the republican controlled House for the job gains?
Remember when the dems promised to fix everything if we elected them in 2006? We did. Then we gave them total control by electing Obama. WTF did they do until 2011 when the repubs took back the House? Where were the jobs before 2011????
Watched Fox for a few hours today and rather than giving any attention to the jobs report, they decided to keep on pushing the Libya conspiracy. Then, they implied that our current government is the source of the East Coast's pain. I was waiting for them to blame Obama for somehow causing the hurricane.
All they are doing now is drumming up anger, rather than recognizing the extreme good-will and concern that communities are showing for each other. New Jersey has been devastated and people are still in trouble, but the response so far is unbelievable.
Its sick watching Fox politicize this and its sick knowing how many people are so entrenched in their views that they condone and defend this behavior.
Yet, Fox's detestable negativity/blame game cannot match the resilience that we are seeing across the coast. Should be considered an inspiration to the rest of the nation. God Bless the East Coast!
Concerned,
Classic example of Fox spin. Yes the "unemployed" grew. Do you know why?
Because half a million more people now started looking for jobs. That means the "workforce"grew by half a million people. These are people who previously had given up finding a job and weren't part of the calculation. The very fact that these people put themselves in the workforce again is because the job market has gotten a lot better. In many depressed parts of the country, people quit looking for jobs for the simple reason that they didn't exist in the region. But now those jobs are becoming available so people formerly blocked out of the economy are actively trying to get back in.
But you need to understand how the numbers get calculated. Fox capitalizes on the fact that most people don't have a clue how this works. Believe it or not, unemployment rising by a tenth on a point under these circumstances is actually a very positive sign. Unemployment didn't rise because more people lost jobs, it's because the workforce got bigger. Every sector gained jobs with the small exception of government that cut several thousand jobs. The job gains numbers from the previous two months were also updated to be further positive.
Romney also spins it today to saying that unemployment is higher today than when Obama came into office. In January 2009 it was a rate of 7.8%, but because the numbers are based on the full month the reality is that it was really more like 8.1- 8.2 % if you adjust for the calendar. In February 2009, the numbers came in at 8.3%. Inauguration was January 20th. In the purest sense, 2/3 of the month wasn't even on his watch. In reality we were operating under 100% Bush policies until about the end of April of 2009. At that point unemployment was 8.9%, with 13.7 million unemployed and still loosing ground. if you were going to draw a line in the sand, it would be more appropriate then.
We aren't out of the woods by any means but all the job trends are positive and are beating predictions.
JH, Yes jobs are slowly coming back but just think how much better this country would be today if the Republicans had not blocked every effort to help create jobs. The Republicans even blocked a bill that would have help veterans returning home to get jobs. They want our young men to go fight a war for them but don't want to support them when they get home. Go figure.
Updated as of 5:00pm EST on Friday, November 2 (Thank God It's Friday!):
Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With only 78 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report Obama leading in eight of their 11 toss-up states with Romney leading in three.
In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 5:00pm EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:
In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has jumped to 5.0%, up from 3.7% Thursday afternoon. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 91.2% chance of victory here, up by a significant 5.5% from Tuesday.
In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.6%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.2% chance of victory here, up by 2.0% from Tuesday.
In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 3.5%, up from 3.0% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up by a slight 0.5% from Tuesday.
In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% early Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 87.7% chance of victory here, up by an astonishing 8.0% from Tuesday.
In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has settled today at 2.4%, up from Thursday's 2.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.5% chance of victory here, up by a substantial 7.2% from Tuesday.
In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 78.8% chance of victory here, up by a significant 4.9% from Tuesday.
In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 77.8% chance of victory here, up by a substantial 7.5% from Tuesday.
In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 64.6% chance of victory here, up by an astonishing 9.2% from Tuesday.
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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 0.5%. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here, and NOT Romney's, to 66.4%, up by an astonishing 8.2% from Tuesday.
In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 1.2%. However, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 55.1% chance of victory here, surprisingly down by an astonishing 9.6% from Tuesday. It should be noted that RCP's average in this state has been inflated by a recent outlier finding in favor of Romney from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital.
In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney an 79.9% chance of victory here, down by a slight 0.3% from Wednesday.
So...
In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Michigan at 3.5%, Nevada at 2.7%, and Ohio at 2.4%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.
However, should Obama fail to hold Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:
Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but wins the remaining three states where he currently leads, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking New Hampshire, Iowa, OR Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.
Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:
Path #3: Obama comes from behind to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, and Michigan at 3.5%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in both Colorado where Obama's lead rose yesterday to 0.9% and in either Ohio (where Obama's lead has settled today at 2.4%, up from Thursday's 2.3%) or in Pennsylvania (where Romney's campaign suggested earlier this week that Obama's significant lead of 4.6% may be vulnerable). By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275 or 277, respectively.
Romney's Pennsylvania strategy, however, may be a highly-marketed feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida.
In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 2.0%, Iowa at 2.0%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.
FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 80.9% (up from Wednesday's 79.0%) and Romney 19.1% (down from Wednesday's 21.0%).
FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 303 (up by 4 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 235 (down by 4 from Wednesday's 239).
Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.5% (up from Wednesday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from yesterday's 48.6%).
With only 78 hours of campaigning left, and with this morning's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.
TGIF, America. Go have a drink.
Hillarious. Dems actually thinking they could pick up any seats anywhere in American government is laughable.
The removal of Dems from elected office that began in 2010 will continue in earnest this year, Americans are sick of them.
Active Army - Get back to us with the report after you watch MSNBC. Pathetic Madcow, horses ass Mr. Ed....
Larry - How many jobs bills have the House sent to Harry in the Senate that have been ignored? And drop the talking point of repubs not wanting GI's to have jobs. That is pure BS. That bill was just another money pit offered by the dems. The repubs BLOCKED another waste of tax dollars, plain and simple.
4 more days till Odumbo, POS POTUS, gets his walking papers. All the crybaby libs point at the republicans for not working with this $hit head, I believe it works both ways, the POS POTUS needs to work with congress, like your hero Bill Blowjob Clinton did. But instead, POS POTUSObama appointed himself dictator of the US, it was his way or the highway, thus 2 years of gridlock, which was actually an improvement over the prior 2 years of democrat control, that set the stage for this anemic recovery. Harry Reid, you better roll up your selves and be ready to go back to work in January, there's going to be a new sheriff in town.
With regard to capital gains taxed at 15%. The original investment was taxed as income when it was earned at whatever bracket the taxpayer fell into at that time. So yes, it more or less is double taxed. Why anyone wants to see this capital gains rate increased is beyond me, it will hurt everyone, and the middle class disproportionately more, and will do next to nothing to reduce the deficit.
So I suppose if we reduce defense spending and raise taxes the deficit is going to go away? What will keep the democrats from giving this money away for more government jobs and increase in the number on welfare? Do you think for one minute the democrats will ever stop entitlement spending? Up that percentage of people dependent on the government to over 50% and Obama can get elected to a 3rd term. He could be our President of lfe.
It will be 2014 when the most important 'shovel-ready job' in this great nation will be to shovel John Boehner out of Congress along with a lot of other privileged, self-serving, nose-to-the-trough, political trash.
Reporting to JH, whose defense of Fox's detestable presentation of Libya and the Hurricane goes, "but, but, erm MSNBC, Rachel Madcow, horses ass Ed."
Very good post, you scholar!
While watching Fox, I had to change the channel and stopped on MSNBC. Thanks for the suggestion, btw. Unlike Fox they weren't pushing the Libya conspiracy theory, they presented a fuller view of the jobs report, and decided against blaming Obama for the Hurricane.
In the debt ceiling stand-off, Obama started out offering the Republicans 80% of what they wanted. They spat in his face.
He ended up giving them 98% of what they wanted - John Boehner himself quoted that number. The Tea Party part of the Republicans in Congress STILL spat in his face.
When one party willingly offers up 98% of what the other party wants, in an effort to be bipartisan, and bipartisanship still fails, then no, it is NOT a two-way street, as hardtostarboard so dishonestly claims. There is only one party at fault for that kind of deadlock, and that is the party that spits in the other side's face rather than compromise.
Active Army - Of course MSNBC won't mention Libya. It wouldn't bode well for Obama.
Did I defend FOX about what you said? NO. Typical twisting from the left. I watch both FOX and MSNBC and I believe that FOX is less biased than MSNBC. Why don't you please tell us exactly who blamed Obama for the hurricane. Or was that just a little more twisting on your part?
Even Romney is not pushing the Libya story. He got his butt handed to him the one time he tried. Must have decided he would do better if he had actual facts.
amphiox..............and you believe this because???? And for those of us who don't drink the tea how do you expect us to take you seriously?
JH, your reply was clearly in defense of Fox. In response to a post on Fox's Libya conspiracy theory focus and anger drumming, you said:
Nice try! And, though I don't need to answer to you on this, for all that want to see Fox's sickening spin on our government and the hurricane, just turn on the TV and watch. It was Cavuto, who I was watching, but I would venture to guess that Cavuto was not the only one.
Libs are downright incredible. I mean, talking like Obama is a shoo-in for reelection, the Dems are a cinch to keep their Senate majority, and.....bwaahahaha....the Dems actually have a chance to regain a House majority. Were any of you paying attention during the 2010 landslide, and do you really think all of those folks who sent the Dems packing are now going to vote for an administration that accomplished absolutely nothing for 4 years. Geezus, get real!
@ Hole12200
Just curious. How much tax is too much? 90%, + 8% State, + SS Tax + Medicare Tax + Real estate taxes + sales tax?
What would you suggest is too much tax?
And since you are arguing that trust funds @ 15% tax are too low, why is Obama talking about raising Income taxes, which does nothing to the uber-rich, but does hit small business owners?
for all the right winger's discussing Libya.....
If that is all you have against Obama, then there is no reason not to re-elect him. Libya is a non-voting issue, and it's been proven that he did NOT send back the CIA special teams, and was NOT watching on video.
My prediction is that the Dems will lose ground in the house. Not that it really matters, Congress is bought or will be bought regardless.
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President Obama goes into his second term with no political gamble. All of the House Republicans go in with their jobs on the line. The President knows this, the Congressional Republicans know it, you and I know it. There will be no more political head games in racing to 2016 like we saw leading to 2012. The people's work will be done or Republican heads will roll in the midterms and 2016.
The Republican leadership will be forced to throw off the shackles of the evangelicals, the Tea Party and Grover Norquist. That is the best possible outcome for the Republican Party, our two party system and especially for the nation.
One big reason to vote for Obama is that I don't want to pair this Republican Congress with these Republican candidates. In case some have missed the "thrust" of the Republican campaign - they want to eliminate women's right to keep their personal/medical decision to abort a pregnancy (even from rape). This is virtually all the Republicans have been working on since they took Congress (they give lip service to 'trying' to do a couple other things). That, and holding firm on the Norquist Pledge on taxation. I think the Republicans will hold on to their Congressional majority and continue to be difficult to work with - but they'll need to look for some way to pass needed legislation too.
Active Amy,
Yep I noticed that too. They were the only MSM outlet that did not go into depth about the jobs numbers nor did they explain to their viewers how these numbers are gathered. No wonder Fox's viewers are less informed then all other outlets.
Geowil - Fox viewers are not capable of understanding how the numbers are computed. Most of them still confuse the weekly first time unemployment numbers with the unemployment rate.
ok tell me what is wrong with this pic? we are asking the the rick in congress to pass a law that will raise their taxes. hmmm and if Dems want to pass it like they say then why didn't they try to in the 1st two years Obama was in office ? they had it all they President, both side of congress but Obamacare was more important wasn't it?
No. 19: Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.
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No. 14: Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho
Personal wealth: $54.1 million
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No. 8: Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
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Personal wealth: $231.7 million
Kerry was his party's standard-bearer in the 2004 presidential election, losing to incumbent George W. Bush. Kerry's net worth has declined 16% in the wake of the Great Recession.
In 1995, the senator's wealth increased with his marriage to his second wife, Teresa, the widow of former U.S. Sen. John Heinz.
No. 2: Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas
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@Geowil,
Less informed or more informed considering the gross incompetence of Obama's white house with the libya fiasco. 4 Americans died, Obama lied, and the liberals say its no big deal.
The unemployment number increased, why is this news? Why do they need to break the numbers down to put some sort of spin to save Obama's face? The real news is why the american people were lied to for two weeks. Remember the media asking, what did the president know and when did he know it? how does that not apply to this situation?
Spider,
You do realize 2010 was a midterm don't you? Voter turn out was extremely low. A lot of people don't bother to vote in mid-terms unless it's also a gubernatorial election too. I might add that in more than a few places where some Tea Party idiot replaced a blue dog Democrat, you are going to see those elections reversed. All over America people are sick of the Tea Baggers. It is only in super red districts where they have nothing to worry about. Same thing will happen in some Senate seats too. Tea Party favorite Mr Richard Mourdoch, (Rape is God's gift to women), ousted long time beloved Republican Senator Lugar in the primaries. He's going to cost the Republicans a Senate seat. Even in a red state he is down by about 12% to his Democratic challenger.
I'm sure you probably live is some super red region and think it's like that all over the country. It's not. Democrats will pick up seats. Maybe not in your district, but elsewhere for sure. I'll agree that regaining the House has a pretty slim chance of coming to pass, but even just picking up a few seats will help. When Obama gets re-elected, don't be surprised to see some House Republicans siding with Democrats in an effort to kill the Tea Party.
It is going to be about saving a future for the Republican Party. If they continue on the obstructionist path they will destroy their future and they know it. Demographics are changing rapidly in America, soon "whites" in America, will be a minority group. There is no room for the Tea Party in the soon to be America and traditional Republicans know it because they see beyond the little district they represent. I saw a great post earlier today and it speaks to this. Soon Republicans will be replacing the elephant symbol of the party with a T-Rex because they're going the way of the dinosaur.
Muglitt,
Democrats did not "own" Congress for two years, they only had a filibuster proof majority for less than 60 days. And if you remember they needed a couple Republican votes to move forward on "Obamacare". And also, if you paid attention, they did try to roll back Bush tax cuts on the wealthy multiple times but were blocked.
It's easy to just say NO to the party of NO. Especially with Romney hoping to take his job exporting to China to another level as President. The 12,000,000 jobs he proposes will be in crating up and sending the last of our manufacturing equipment overseas along with a some Americans to train the dimwits in places like China who will receive equipment from our once great manufacturing centers which have been undermined by the modern day carpetbaggers like Romney.
Makes no difference what the House wants to do..its the Senate that makes the final call..or back to the House and then back to the Senate..It's CONGRESS people!
Plus after four years of BS..Obama will not put up with their BS again..will veto all.
Obama 2012
No, it's not, blg95. That's a lie being told to you by those getting away with murder in our tax system to keep you from knowing how they're screwing you.
Look up "carried interest".
Mitt took his income from Bain Capital as "carried interest", which is taxed at the capital gains tax rate, not personal income tax rates. AFTER all of his personal deductions, writeoffs and exemptions.
That would be like you or me getting our paycheck direct deposited to our bank account, using it to pay all our bills and then paying 15% to the government on whatever was left over.
Mitt also transferred $100 million of that "carried interest" to his sons' trust funds. TAX FREE.
Don't buy the BS - they're not paying and you are.
We completely understand where you are comming from Biden.....AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-theres-never-been-day-last-four-years-ive-been-proud-be-his-vice-president_660130.html
R/R 2012
The right wing fanatics in both houses of government represent the biggest problem the country faces. Anyone who does not understand this by now is hopeless and it's just futile to convince them otherwise. But the next generation does understand that tyranny often presents itself rapped in the flag, so it's only a matter of time before the Bachmans, Wilsons, Rogers, McConnell, etc are extinct. End of the road for the backward, blue skies for all.
The question isn't "do you want 4 more years like the last 4?"
Look at Romney's advisors and money men.
The real question is:
"Do you want 4 more years of the Bush administration?"
All I know if there is 40 more years of Trickle Down the U.S of A will be out of bussiness SOLD to CHINA!
Go Obama 2012
1newday:
you dont recall how Obama and Nancy Pelosi bragged about how they passed Obamacare without needing a single Republican vote on T.V. ?
Obama, Pelosi and Reid had a super majority in Congress for 2 years. Before that, Pelosi and Reid had a super majority under Bush for 2 years.
During those years of democrat domination, they failed to pass a budget for over 865 days, yet they blame it on Bush and the GOP.
Another observation
During the first two years of the Obama Administration, when the Democrats had a majority in Congress, they were not always a unified block and they lacked the 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation opposed by Republicans - unless they also got some Republican support. They were also trying to deal with a very serious economic situation, where there was substantial disagreement as to the best way to proceed. As a result, much legislation was was hard fought, requiring a long time to reach any version that could be passed.
Dems are Done! They'll be lucky to hold on to the senate...
We already know they're losing the White House! Hallelujah!
Only 4 more days...and America will find relief. NOBAMA!
Romney/Ryan 2012! Vote against the Big-Eared Bandit and his laughing sidekick like your life depends on it!
Just saw a full page ad in our local paper paid for by the Billy Graham Evangelical Association endorsing Romney (of course, they could not say Romney's name because of their tax-exempt status, but it was the same thing as endorsing Romney)
This sickens me to see a beloved man like Billy Graham used as a pawn by his own son, Franklin. Poor Billy is 94 years old and in ill health. I have followed his career for over half a century now and he would NEVER support someone he believed was a member of a cult like Mormonism. It goes against everything he ever believed and preached during his lifetime. He denounced these cults from the pulpit in his many crusades through the years and spoke out against their beliefs with no reservations.
Some may say that Billy Graham would be against gay marriage, too. Yes, he certainly is, but if he were able-bodied and in his right mind now, he would do the same thing he did to Nancy Reagan when she consulted astrologers while her husband was in office. Billy Graham called her personally and told her it was wrong. He would do the same thing to President Obama -- he would call him and tell him that he disagreed with him.
But Billy Graham would NEVER remove the language from his website that said Mormonism is a cult. It is a shame and disgrace that his son Franklin has sunk to such self-serving depths.
Billy Graham learned from his mistake of endorsing any President after his mistake with Nixon. He became the friend of ALL Presidents, not just the ones that his greedy, money-loving ("oh, I didn't know that $500,000 was put into my retirement plan as a bonus"), attention-seeking, wannabe son, Franklin endorses.
Well maybe by Monday, Obama's chance of winning Virginia will be more like 80%, since it will be up by an astonishing 15%, WITH ROMNEY IN THE LEAD HOLDING AT 0.5%.
So what's the message here, Romney voters? Even when your guy is in the lead, Obama has a greater chance of winning, so just stay home on election day.
Romney by 4 points on Tuesday. People don't like Obama anymore than they did in 2010.
Rickeroo...
I'll stay home on election day since I already cast my vote for the next POTUS...Mitt Romney!
Yea baby! 4 more days and NOBAMA!
Romney/Ryan 2012! No more 44!
blg95
The 15% is on capital gains which is already taxed as income before it is invested. It is called double taxation....... Dems in the Senate are holding hostage the middle class tax cut because they want the rich to pay more.
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Malarky! Typical GOP/TP bullc.r.a.p. People, the capital gains didn't exist before the investment, so how could it be taxed? These mouth breathers sure can twist things. If someone invests $1,000 in stocks, there is no tax on it. If that person laters sells those stocks after 1 year for $1,500, there is a capital gains tax on the 500 difference, never on the original $1,000 investment. It's no different than putting the $1,000 in a bank CD and after 1 year getting $1,500 back (a little bit unrealistinc these days, I know), only the $500 interest is taxed. God there is so much stupidity being blurted out all over these sites.
Actually, the DEMs wanted to keep the cuts for the MIddle Class and let the cuts expire for the Upper Class, but the GOP{/TP wouldn't agree unless the Upper Class also got the keep Bush's cuts, so in fact, it was your super elite GOP/TP who held the MIddle Class hostage, but go ahead, keep on spinning.
silverton -- I must agree with your sentiments on Billy Graham. He was a good friend of my family (grandparents on my father's side). Over the years I have been proud of how he was such a popular minister and yet didn't succumb to the lust for worldly possesions or the whoring around that, one by one, it seemed every other pastor fell to. I never knew Franklin, but I think you may be right in that it was not Billy's decision to endorse Mormonism.
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If the dems want to see compromise, they should probably begin practicing voting yes to a balanced budget, deficit reduction, tax cuts, less regulation and smaller government because that is the only compromise that will be in their futures.
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That's compromise???? You have a warped sense of reality, that's the whole ball of GOP/TP wax right there. It's like two people meeting for lunch, and one says, "Let's compromise, I'll select the food from the menu and YOU pay". How about spending cuts (including defense) along with some tax increases to reduce the deficit, now that's compromise....do you sell used cars?
muglitt, enlighten us. What part(s) of the ACA haven't you had the time to read yet?
REALLY Brandon ?? 3000 people were lost on BUSH's watch because of HIS incompetence and complicity and we're still being LIED to about it 11 yrs later. Shut yer piehole.
DonBo
The reason Romney can't get elected is because of the "scorched earth" policies of the Republican led House of Representatives. As a former Republican, I'll wait until the party shows it can reach across the isle before ever supporting them again. Imagine, supporting a political party that votes out of spite rather than doing what is best for the country..
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Amen to that.............I also am ex-GOP, having voted for Reagan (twice), Bush I, Dole and Bush II (but only in 2000). When I think of today's GOP having been infected, terrified and controlled by the schizoid TP, it reminds me of the former humans now turned to zombies on The Walking Dead.
Judging from the DNC junk emails I get on the subject, I guess they didnt get the memo. They keep telling me how close they are and begging for more money
I guess they dont read Newsweek either!
Newsweek cover to Obama "Hit the road Barack"
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They are and have been doing something. They have been working hard to prevent middle class Americans from paying more than $6/gallon for gasoline. They have been working hard to prevent Democrats from creating less safe working environments, to prevent the Democrats from endangering the environment, to prevent the Democrats from allowing people into positions of oversight even when there are conflicts of interest involved, and they are working to prevent higher deficit spending.
Many of the pieces of legislation they have been working to block do all the above and more under the guise of creating jobs. They are economy-damaging pieces of legislation that the Democrats are trying to force down Americans' throats. People should thank the Republicans in the House for saving their bacon these last few years.
If you don't believe it, you really, really need to read all this legislation and make sure you see and understand how it affects legislation already in effect. You need to look at the actual voting records and see what it is that they are doing and why. Several of the nay votes blocks were given because Democrats tried to invoke cloture to end debate and put the legislation to the floor for a vote.
There is much that has been debatable in the legislation the Dems have been trying to run through Congress. Much of it adds a lot of increased spending, raises the trigger affecting the debt ceiling, and actually threatens to harm the economy. How many in the middle class can afford to pay more than $6/gallon for gasoline? I think it would suck to work another job just to pay for your gasoline so you can work your other job, but that is just me, I suppose. :-)
blg95 #1.4~~You are calling for the exact same policies of George Bush, that got us into this mess. No thanks. We have been there, done that, not going back. Even the very wealthy and big corporations are beginning to face up to the fact, that President Obama is leading us in the right direction and the very wealthy needs to pay more taxes, to help build up our nation. All we need now, is for the gop to do their job of working for all of the people, in the best interest of all the people, and that includes the very wealthy, including Mitt Romney, to pay taxes on all of their earnings and stop evading paying taxes by offshore tax havens, and loopholes.
The House of Representatives will be essentially the same as now after the election, with Republicans in control with about 240 seats.
This means that a vote for Obama is a vote for several more years of 'GRIDLOCK', since Obama has demonstrated that he is either unwilling or unable to compromise with the Republicans.
Unlike Reagan and Clinton, who worked closely with an opposing Congress to get lots of good things done, Obama has made only one attempt to meet with the Republicans (on the Debt crisis), and even then he reneged on the 'deal' he made with Boehner.
With Romney as President, we will at least have some cooperation between the White House and Congress, and avoid more GRIDLOCK.
PS - My prediction is for the Democrats to retain the Senate by 53 (51 + 2 Ind) to 47.
1new day
in 2004, The Republicans peaked with a turnout at 40% of the vote and the democrats at 35.
In 2006, The democrats had 37% and the Republicans dropped to 36%.
In 2008 The democrats peaked at 39% and the Republicans had dropped to 32%
In 2010 The democrats dropped to 36% and the Republicans had risen to 37%
All poll internals continually have shown the Republicans to be more motivated than the Democrats.
The reason the polling companies are using 2008 as the model or a trend, "there are more democrats registered than republicans".
With the performance seen in the early voting and in the absentee ballot requests, there is no way the democrats are going to turn out in a +7 to +12 rate over republicans. The will do well to be between +2 & +4.
Democrats were depending upon the early voting to bury the republicans like they did in 2008. The late numbers show that the Republicans have covered the deficits to which they lost by except in Nevada and Iowa.
DB - So more Republicans are voting early this year... Big deal, what's your point? It just means there will be fewer left to vote on the 6th. You always manage to spin yourself into the ground.
Unfortunatley, the Repugs will probably keep control of the House, albiet with diminished numbers. However, the GOOD NEWS is that President Barack Obama WILL be reelected and the Democrats WILL retain control of the Senate. The Tea Klux Klan will continue to have a voice, BUT they will be on high alert that the American people do NOT support their agenda and their days in Washington, D.C., ARE limited.
So, Barrack Hussein has added over $5.6 trillion dollars to our National Debt in 4 years.
Now, what did he say when Bush only added 4 trillion in 8 years? Wasn't it something like "irresponsible and unpatriotic"?
So what does that make Barrack Hussein?
Incompetent.
He promised you Libbies the Health Care Redistribution of Wealth Hoax would "only" cost an additional $940 billion, to make it appear like he was keeping his promise of not adding $1 trillion to the cost, but the CBO has reported it will actually cost over $1.76 trillion, so far.
Barrack Hussein lied to you, and you don't care.
We wasted $863 billion on a useless $timulu$ program.
Oh wait, it "created" 5 million jobs. So it only costs the government over $200,000 to create each job.
Let's see, is that "irresponsible and unpatriotic" too?
But wait! If we look at the quality of jobs created, Barrack Husseins record gets even worse.
Although six in 10 jobs lost during the Great Recession paid mid-level wages, the majority of new jobs created in the recovery -- positions such as store clerks, laborers and home healthcare aides -- pay much less, according to a new study by the National Employment Law Project.
The study covered jobs created from the first quarter of 2010 through the first quarter of 2012.
Lower-paying jobs, with median hourly wages from $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for just 21% of the job losses during the recession. But they've made up about 58% of the job growth from the end of the recession in late 2009 through early 2012.
Those jobs have been concentrated in three industries: food services, retail and employment services, such as office clerks and customer service representatives, the study found.
In contrast, mid-wage occupations with median hourly wages from $13.84 to $21.13 -- jobs such as construction workers, real estate brokers, and data entry clerks -- have accounted for just 22% of the new jobs in the recovery after making up 60% of the job losses in the recession.
So, we're paying $200,000 to create jobs making $25,000 a year. I'm not an economist but it would seem like our return on investment isn't very good.
THESE ARE THE "GREEN SHOOTS", THE "RECOVERY SUMMER" AND WHAT "FOCUSED LIKE A LASER" GIVES US.
No matter how you Libbies try to cover for your boy-toy, Barrack Hussein is a failure. If you think he has a solution to any of this mess he created I challenge you to tell me what it is.
His tax hike on your favorite bogeyman, the rich, is nothing but pandering to your ignorance. The alleged $850 billion his increased tax will create means it will generate $85 billion in revenue a year. This will pay for 8.5 days of spending, as we spend $10 billion every day.
So tell me, what is Barrack Husseins plan for the other 356.5 days?
More debt?
Remember, we have already burned through $2 trillion of the $2.4 trillion we just raised last August during the debt ceiling debacle.
More jobs that cost $200,000 to create that pay $25,000?
More health care reform that will never work. Even if you think the exchanges will make up the money, businesses have shown you how easy it is to avoid that by just changing their employees to part-time.
So, as you Libbies worship at the altar of Big-Government and keep sniffing the chairs Barrack Hussein just sat on, this is the Hopey Changey you asked for.
You deserve it.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©
NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.
Really, ya don't need to tax the rich. Taking away the incentives and most deductions they now enjoy is simply not taxing them. It's forcing them to pay their fair share. The want to actually use their incentives to create jobs here in the U.S. then great, give them the incentives. They move businesses out, tax the hell out of them and make sure it costs them more instead of being profitable. If they do not show they have added to their wokforce, then take the incentives away as well.
As far as their influence on politicians go, that right to profit off insider trading the congress and senate now enjoy needs to be taking away from them and mandatory ten years sentences at the very least if caught as well as huge fines that break their banks. The rich use these incentives to bribe and buy the politicians and make break the consumers their number one money maker. Without this incentive in itself, the majority of all the epa laws wouldn't exist. At least the ones that actually hurt small businesses to take out the competition for the larger companies that can afford to upgrade to nw epa standards they paid off law makers and up to get passed in order to squeeze out the small business owners.
We can thank our lucky stars there was a Republican majority in congress the last 2 plus years. If there wasn't the national debt would already be approching $20 TRILLION. Every time the white house or Democrats introduced a job bill or spending bill it was un-funded or at best only partially funded. The Republicans took their jobs seriously to hold down the deficit spending. Democrats on the other hand just want o spend money we don't have and let the next president suffer from it like they did when Clinton left office. Clintons policies ( NAFTA, GAFT and the mortgage restructuring ) caused the meltdown that began later in Bushes term. 9-11 was also caused by the lack of leadership ( like Obama) whenBin Laden was in custody. I keep hearing the Obama add where he asked " do we want to go back to the same failed policies of the paast ?" I say heck no but I am looking at the real cause of the problems we face not who had to bear the burden. Just so you all understand. When Obamacare begins to full impliment and the true effects are felt from the increase in the cost of medical care,increase in insurance rates and increase in job loss,. It will only start to happen late in the next term of whoever is elected and hit hard in the term after that. Yes go ahead and clim on the Obama train wreck if you like . I will remind you of it in a few years. Not that you will accept it then any more than you accept Clinton and the Democrats are responsible for the great recession either.
Awwww. Too Bad. Soooo Sad. Even if the Barak, the lib Messiah, can steal the election, Obama won't be able to implement his anti-American, socialist takeover agenda because we will have a responsible Congress that just won't fund his destruction of America.
If Romney wins, Reid has already vowed to use that bastion of liberal no compromise, the Senate, to block his agenda. As if, that would be a change from anything he has done over the last four years.
I for one am thrilled at the certainty of a split government.
AMERICA WORKS BEST WHEN GOVERNMENT CAN"T WORK AT ALL.
And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China. Romney is the most ruthless and despicable type of business man in our country and the right wants him to be our president. I hope all you conservatives are willing to move to China if you still want your job.
On the day before an election that's supposed to hinge on jobs, taxes and the middle class, Bain Capital, the company Mitt Romney founded, will close the doors of a factory in Freeport, Illinois, and ship 170 good, high-tech jobs to China.
The employees of Sensata Technologies were forced to train their Chinese replacements, and the American flag that long flew over the factory was reportedly removed while the Chinese engineers were visiting the site. A group of workers have set up camp across from the factory -- calling it “Bainport” -- and some supporters have tried to block the trucks hauling equipment out of the plant. According to Dave Johnson, there have been several arrests.
Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.
The most important part of the story is that Sensata Technologies is profitable operating in Illinois. Net income last year was $355 million, up 16 percent from 2010. The company reported total revenues of $1.8 billion in 2011, up almost 19 percent from the year before. According to a company financial statement, “both 2011 net revenue and adjusted net income represent record levels for the company.”
So this has nothing to do with “making hard choices” in the process of turning around a failing business, which is how the Romney campaign describes Bain's corporate raiding. Bain's partners are looking for a modest boost in profits by locating the plant closer to the booming Asian automotive market (Sensata makes high-tech automotive parts). They'll get a small tax break for relocating the plant – the one Mitt Romney insisted did not exist during the first debate – and possibly defer taxes on some of the income the company generates.
We need to vote more millionaires into Congress, because they promised a fair tax rate for the middle class and promised more jobs for their statespeople. I've never understood how individually intelligent people can become a group or mob and turn into the dumbest bunch of A$$HOLES who can't do anything even remotely close to what I would construe as actual "Working for America". How did we get hypnotized into sending the rich to decide what is best for a normal "Money Maker" in America? The sad reality is here in my East Tennessee section of the state, a Democrat has a chance in hell of getting elected. They say zombies do not exist and I believed it, until I started asking people about issues and how it impacts us locally, and I'm sorry but there is a massive army of the voting undead. Don't know sh!t about what the issues are about, just going to pull that lever because their preachers and parents would want them to vote that way.
When you start mixing religion and politics, you lose respect. For in my eyes, you are no better than the fanatics we are fighting in the Middle East. Your crazy rant just has a different accent.
Romney /Ryan same ole Republican BS different ticket - don't tell me your going to fall fot it again especally after Bush/Chaney almost took you out completly. After all you're still paying for their total destruction agendas of 2000/2004. I won't list the screw-ups, too many to mention and you already know what they were.
CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR - AMERICAS TOO FRAGILE TO TAKE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PUNCH TO THE GUT.
Vote the blockers of progress out.
Looking through all these comments reminds me of the old Chris Rock skit regarding black history, where the only thing anyone is taught about is Martin Luther King. The answer to all questions is Martin Luther King. The republicans over the last weeks are just like that......Talking about unemployment.....Benghazi... Seats in the house? What about Benghazi? Gridlock in the house and senate??? You mean Benghazi? I for one will wait until the actual investigation is complete before I question it... You know? That benefit of the doubt that you all ALWAYS gave GWB even once the facts were out (insert No WMD found here)? Are you all still beating him up over that lie? oh no, wait... never mind. My bad, it's just the "other" who is currently in the white house and doesn't belong who gets that scrutiny.
Your kidding right?! God, I hope and pray your not a professional educator.
What's best for the country? That would be forcing Congress to act with fiscal responsibility--cutting unnecessary spending, eliminating loopholes and lowering tax rates to stimulate growth and encourage individual saving/investing, while making sure that EVERYONE pays something (that's called "paying one's fair share"). Raising taxes simply robs the individual taxpayer of their money to feed Congress' insatiable appetite for unnecessary spending chasing after votes--when they've already repeatedly proven that they can't be trusted to act responsibly with the money you've already given them, what could possibly make you think that they'd be responsible if given even MORE of your money? Completely illogical.
The 15% rate that you're citing is for capital gains, and that applies to ALL taxpayers reporting income from investments--including the IRA, 401k, etc. investment gains income upon which many senior citizens depend. Furthermore, that 15% is on top of the money already having been taxed once (at least in the case of dividends, which corporations are taxed on before the money is given to shareholders)! As for the "25%" claim, you're talking about the MARGINAL tax rate on EARNED (salary) income, not the EFFECTIVE rate (and yes, there IS a big difference between the two). Most "middle class" don't pay anything close to a 25% EFFECTIVE tax rate, due to various deductions, etc. Try more like 10-15% as an effective rate for the typical middle class taxpayer. If you use TurboTax when you file your taxes, it does identify the two rates for you if you read the printouts. If you use a CPA or accountant to do your taxes, then they should certainly be able to do so too (since they essentially use the equivalent of TurboTax software anyway). Your comments suggest that you do not understand the difference between EARNED and INVESTMENT income, nor between the MARGINAL and EFFECTIVE tax rates on earned income, nor do you recognize the need for a low tax rate on investments. If you're trying to save for your future and build up a retirement nest egg, then you definitely don't want the capital gains tax rate to go up. Please do everyone a favor and go educate yourself on taxation and finances before spouting off.
You think the idea that you should be able to keep what you earn instead of handing it over to the government to waste is selfish and radical? I hate to burst your bubble, but the Founding Fathers didn't share your viewpoint on that. But then, I suppose they were considered "radical" too at the time. If holding the views of the Founding Fathers is once again considered "radical," then what does that say about those people who do not?
I'd love nothing better than for the dems to take back the house, but it just isn't going to happen. They will likely reduce the republican majority a bit, but to call it a "steep climb" to reach majority status is putting it a bit too optimistically. The math in the HoR just doesn't work for the dems this time around, and they might even have a hard time just hanging on to the senate...but that's really only because so many dem Senators are up for re-election. Next time, it will be the other way around, with more GOP seats at risk. I predict Obama wins, an evenly-split senate or nearly so, with the potential tiebreaker going to the dems, and a house that will look a lot more balanced but will still be under GOP control. I guess I'm not really going out on a limb with those predictions, but that's still how I see it going down.
The "founding fathers" didn't expect us to be idiots. I'm sure the brightest of them would have expected us to change with the times. The economy, and the pressures it is under, are very different than anything they could have imagined. The founders didn't expect us to worry about what they might think of us, but they would likely expect us to act in our own best interest.
G-Man, check your facts, Romney was still a primary shareholder. However he was not a dicession maker at the time all the overseas deals were made. At that time he was occupied with saving the olympics. No worries, you'll spin it your own way, even though those records from Bain has been made public and verified by the democrats!
Yeah, verified by the Democrats--like the forged Bush AWOL memos. Good one! :-)
Time to throw Republican Bums out, vote our Dem bums in.
That being the case..... any bets on when impeachment proceedings start if Obama wins? As I understand, Harry Reid can't ride to the rescue on that agenda.
I agree with you because Reid has had a traffic accident...a Republican intentionally crashed into Reid's car recently - thus Reid can't ride to his rescue. But everything will be fine...Reid is not damaged goods.
VOTE OUT THE PARTY OF "NO!"
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The ReThugLicans want POWER for themselves more than they want jobs for US!
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VOTE DEM!
. . . . so the JOBS BILL will get passed! so the bill for help for VETERANS will get passed! for a more cooperative Congress . . .
VOTE against The Norquist Pledge!
Vote against Ciotizen's United!
O & JOE! & a Congress that works for US! :-)
sdpaulson - Impeachment for what? Even Republicans don't want to look THAT dumb!
Obama/Biden 2012
They looked dumb enough when they tried to impeach Clinton. Every body laughed at them.
also throw out some Demos who are equally bad!
the problem is not one party's fault, but both. you cannot blame everything on just one.
It will Benghazi that takes Obama down. When the truth comes out that he was the one who refused to send help, and the blood of four Americans is on his hands, if he gets elected, he will be impeached. Also Holder will be out because of Fast and Furious and all his lies. Some transparent administration, you Liberals have there.
Jersey Girl 1 - the lastest news report showed evidence that CIA sent in report 25 minutes after receiving call for help at US Consulate in Benghazi. Byt the situation is volatile,..out of anybody's control - just like 1983 Beirut Lebanon Marine barracks terrorist attack that killed 240 US marines - no fault of Reagan who was overwhelmingly re-elected in 1984 -
so Jersey Girl - be better informed.
I meant...CIA sent in
report/support 25 minutes after receiving call for help at US Consulate in Benghazi.Pigotry - Jersy Girl doesn't want facts - that doesn't fit her agenda. She is so filled with hate facts have no room.
Obama/Biden 2012
BengaziGATE will rear its ugly head regardless of who wins the election. The adminstration is clearly hiding something....could be worse than Watergate
Obama was involved in some type of coverup regarding benghazi....and if the left won't admit it so be it...Obama said he was going to have a transparent administration and between the healthcare fiasco, Fast and Furious and now benghazi he is a proven liar. I can see Liberals defending him if he had a decent record of the last 4 years but his records suck! I think Obama will win the electoral vote and Romney will win the popular vote.. I also think Republicans will keep the house and take majority of the senate and I can live with that.
It ain't going to happen>>>Mitt in a landslide. We will wait and see what youhave to say Wednesday. You need to look at some unbiased polls.
The republicon economic policy is to export American jobs to China. They are doing it right now in Illinois at Sensata.
Romney Ignores Bainport While Trying to Take Back 47% Comments
miklkit,
Not sure if you are aware, but Romney is not POTUS yet. Obama is and it seems those jobs in Illinois you are referencing have moved overseas on Obama's watch and under his policies. Not sure the logic of you blaming that on Romney who has not been in government for the last four years. Obama is encouraging those jobs to move overseas.
Sorry, but those are the facts. This is happening on his watch. I get a kick out of you guys trying to blame someone who has nothing to do with the real facts.
BTW, Illinois is in a shambles largely due to their dem policies...almost as bad, if not worse than the idiots that run California.
I am with you guys on Libya. You go to Walmart and get some tin foil and I will meet you at the barn. We will make the hats so they cant steal our brains. We will have a meeting every third thursday and talk about what fox says that day. we will be heard.
hahahahahahahahahaha You a55clown repubes crack me up.
robi...it's very creative - the 'you a55clown repubes' part..hahahahahaha..thanks for a good laugh. The republicans are repugnant.
keep your dirty liberal hands out of my wallet, thanks.
"Pollsters exist to make astrologers look accurate". Obama will go down big time next Tuesday because spin, BS, and blaming others only go so far to mask obvious failure and ineptitude. There are whole lot of people who don't answer the phone when the pollsters call and who quietly sit back and digest what is going on and most of them understand this presdent is just full of it and himself and does not represent what this country needs. The only poll that matters is next Tuesday and then mercifully this seemingly endless negative and expensive election will be over.
Romney/Ryan 2012 (Your only hope for a change for the better)
Truth Conveyor
Romney may not be president now & I hope he never is, but he started this back in 1984. Buying companies & eventually either bankrupting them or sending jobs to China all for the price of getting more money in his pocket & those of the investors. While getting rid of american jobs & in some cases getting rid of the american workers pensions. Below is a article from PRWatch.org. regarding Romney, Bain Capital & Sensata in Freeport, IL & Bainport. There is a reason that Romney is known as the Outsource King.
As CMD's Mary Bottari has previously reported: "In 1984, Romney co-founded Bain Capital, a spin-off from Bain & Company, a global management consulting firm. A new accounting details Bain Capital's history in shipping some 15,865 manufacturing jobs overseas. Using a conservative multiplier, which takes into account other jobs in the supply chain or community dependent on those manufacturing jobs, Bain is responsible for some 31,730 lost jobs."
Bain Capital bought Sensata in 2006, acquiring the plant in Freeport, Illinois, which has employed some 170 workers. The plant is high-tech, highly profitable, and efficient. It makes sophisticated sensors needed for vehicles, such as US-made General Motors and Ford cars. In 2011, the company had a net revenue of $1.8 billion and adjusted net income of $355 million. This represents "record levels for the company," Sensata said in a financial report. But, despite this profitability, Bain Capital decided to move the plant to China. Piece by piece, Sensata's equipment is being dismantled, crated, and shipped to Jiangsu Province, where the Chinese government has built a new plant.
Sensata workers who are living in tents in Bainport are very aware of how their predicament is linked to the presidential election. All around the campgrounds are signs that say things like "Sensata is the Romney Economy" and "Welcome to Bainport: A Taste of the Romney Economy."
Bonnie Borman, a Sensata worker who is losing her job on November 5, told CMD: "We tried to reach out to Mitt Romney, because of his ties with Bain Capital, and because he created the model that they still use today. Being a presidential candidate, he's got the power to do so much. I think this would have been a big help to him if he would have stepped in and said, 'hey, I don't want these jobs shipped to China', but he didn't. He didn't even say he was sorry that we were losing our jobs."
Truth conveyer: You are spinning so hard you spun out.
Romney's Bain Capital is exporting that factory and its jobs. Bain Capital is getting a big tax cut for doing it to. The Democrats have tried twice now to close that loophole and you patriotic republicons have filibustered them twice. First in 2010 and again just last July. This is a matter of public record.
Why do you republicons hate America so much?
Anti-outsourcing bill fails in Senate
M54,
But this is happening on Obama's watch. Why can't he create an environment here in the US to keep those jobs here. He has had four years to do it and company's are still leaving the US in droves. Why cant't he figure it out.
Don't blame Romney. He is not the POTUS. This is Obama's economy. Elections have consequences (to quote Obama) and one of the consequences is illustrated here. Businesses have had enough of his act. You may wish to think it different, but clearly company's are voting with their feet.....as in outta here!
They are done with his antics. If Obama wins you can count on four more years of this garbage and the middle class will be crushed even worse than it already has been these last four years. And to be clear: THIS IS ON OBAMA's WATCH. I find it interesting that the article references Romney, being a presidential candidate has so much power he could do something about it. I guess that poor person forgot that Obama is the ACTUAL POTUS now. Maybe she should be contacting and blaming him. After all, he gave a bunch of taxpayer money to tow screwed up companies in the form of GM and Chrysler that that
Referencing Bain back to 1984? Really? That is weak sauce and you need to grow up.
Purturbatice,
You left out that Clinton was not only impeached, but he was dis-barred as well. Clearly he views and treats women as objects only. The guy did some good things for the country, but he get's the runner up award as biggest slimeball (second place only to John Edwards and barely beating out Jessie Jackson who comes in third).
M54... I have a way more interesting story for you .
HOW MORMONISM WILL AFFECT A ROMNEY PRESIDENCY and YOU.
This is a LENGTHY read but if you know a REPUBLICAN or ANYONE who is contemplating voting for Mitt Romney ... this is something they MUST BE AWARE OF. Because if you don't think that his religion is going to have a HUGE impact on his decision making.... you're fooling yourselves. This man is NOT a "Christian"... MORMONS , no matter how loud
ly they profess it... ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. This is a very HUGE HUGE HUGE propaganda campaign they have been planning for the last 20 yrs in order for this day....hoping that ROMNEY will win the Presidency and fulfill the WHITE HORSE PROPHESY...retribution for the murder of Joseph Smith. They HAD to secure the mainstream Christian vote... and YOU'VE ALL FALLEN For IT. Oh... and I AM AN EX-MORMON so I know what I'm talking about.
http://www.december212012.com/articles/religion/2012-%20White-Horse%20-Prophecy.htm
THIS is what MORMONS REALLY BELIEVE.
In all the extensive media coverage of Mitt Romney, much of it discussing his religion, not a word have I seen about the secrets of Mormonism, the secrets of Romney's life-long beliefs and practices. The reason, of course, is obvious: nobody can talk about a secret unless they are in on the secret. And few journalists or Christian ministers or anti-Mitt politicians are in on the secret. Only Mormons know the secrets, and they're not going to tell. And former Mormons, like myself, who were initiated into those same secrets, and afterwards left Mormonism - we know the secrets. Should we tell?
Journalist Frank Rich, in his January 29 article "Who in God's Name Is Mitt Romney?" in New York Magazine, subtitled it: "His greatest passion is something he's determined to keep secret." And that secret is the details of his beliefs and practices as a faithful, life-long Mormon, the same secrets that all good Mormons have vowed to keep secret, even though their life depended on it.
And why does Romney (and his church) want to keep people from knowing those secrets? Most Mormons will claim that they are not "secret," but merely so "sacred" that they cannot be discussed. That is a quibble, since Mormons hold any number of other aspects of their religion to be "sacred," and yet they don't hesitate to discuss them (for example: baptism, conferring the gift of the Holy Ghost, ordination to the priesthood, etc.). In my day, when Mitt and I were initiated into the secrets, we were specifically instructed that we were under "the greatest obligations of secrecy." Nowadays, the Mormons simply take a solemn oath that they will "never reveal" anything about the rituals. That sounds like a secret to any ordinary person, doesn't it?
All right. I am going reveal those secrets, since nobody else seems willing and able to do so.
The biggest secrets involve the special lengthy rituals (the Mormons call them "ordinances") that take place outside of public view in the Mormon temples. The most important of these rituals is called the "endowment" - lasting several hours and taking the Mormon through symbolic washings and anointings (in my day they were actual washings and anointings on the entire naked body), then clothing the Mormon in special clothing and robes (including the notorious "magic underwear," which Mormons call "the garment"). The Mormon then watches and participates in long dramatizations of key events in the coming of the gospel, beginning with the creation of the world, showing Adam's fall, the coming of the Christian gospel (but not the crucifixion and resurrection), and ultimately the Mormon's being admitted into heaven, represented by "passing through the veil (of the temple)." When Romney and I first went through this ceremony, it was a ritualized dramatization with live temple personnel. Nowadays it's a movie.
Yes, the most sacred worship service in Mormonism involves watching a movie.
Why is that so secret? you may ask. What aren't the Mormons supposed to reveal? What do they hold so sacred that it's secret? Quite a lot.
Part of the endowment ritual instructs the Mormons in the four "signs" and "tokens" of the Mormon priesthood. Each also has a "name" (or password). The Mormon must make an oath that he (or she) will never reveal these, outside the temple. The purpose of the signs and tokens, according to Mormon Prophet Brigham Young, is that they will be needed to pass the angels guarding the gates of heaven. The tokens are various handshakes, copied largely from the Masonic initiation rites of the 1830s, when church founder Joseph Smith was initiated into Freemasonry. The signs are various positions of the arms and hands (right arm to the square, for example, is the "first sign of the Aaronic priesthood").
Before 1990, when Romney and I first went through this ceremony, we were taught that each of the first three signs and tokens also had a "penalty" associated with each one, and we had to mime various ways of taking life to represent the penalty to us if we were to reveal the secret signs and tokens: slitting one's own throat, ripping open one's chest, disemboweling oneself. Yes, folks, this was part of the most sacred ritual in Mormonism: pantomiming your own bloody death.
So Mitt Romney, and all other righteous Mormons, can be confident that they know the secret passwords and secret handshakes to get into heaven. Do you see why Romney and his church are reluctant for "unworthy" people (the rest of us, including Mrs. Romney's parents) to know about this? As Deborah Laake put it in her autobiographical book Secret Ceremonies , (New York 1993):
The actions that were going to guarantee my entrance at the gates [of heaven] would have nothing to do with love or charity or the other teachings of Christ that I'd been raised to believe God valued. In fact, I hadn't heard a single one of those words spoken today, the most primary day of religious instruction in my entire life. No, I was going to burst into heaven on the basis of mumbo-jumbo. ... The mysteries of life were fraternity rituals. ... Did all the white-suited glorifiers in the room unquestioningly accept a ritual of nutty gestures from the pseudo-occult as a sacrament? Those were the first moments when I viewed Mormonism with suspicion.
Or as summarized by a young Mormon missionary:"If we told investigators [prospective converts] about that, they wouldn't join, because it's too weird!"
But wait! you are saying. You haven't revealed anything. You've just told us that there is stuff to reveal. So reveal it!
Right. The four secret passwords that will get you into heaven:
The first one is the "new name" that you get with your garment. Mine is "Enoch" and you can borrow it when the time comes. The angel won't know. If you're female, you can use my ex-wife's new name: "Mary." (She would kill me if she knew I gave her sacred new name away!)
The second password is easy: your own given first name.
The third password: "The Son," meaning "the Son of God."
The fourth one is so sacred that you don't get it until the very last moment in the ceremony, at the veil, from God Himself (or an old guy standing behind the curtain who is pretending to be God). And it's very long, but you have to memorize it or you don't get in:
Health in the navel, marrow in the bones, strength in the loins and in the sinews. Power in the priesthood be upon me and upon my posterity through all generations of time and throughout all eternity.
(If you watched "Big Love" faithfully, one episode showed this part of the ceremony.)
And what about the secret (oops! that should be "sacred") handshakes? Rather than describe them, I will suggest you simply do an Internet search for "mormon handshake" images. They'll be right at the top.
Anything else? Yes, there are more secrets.
During the endowment, Mormons are required to take secret oaths that they will obey various "laws." The "law of obedience" requires them to obey "the law of God and keep his commandments." They don't specify what the "law of God" is, but Mormons understand that the Mormon church is the only true source of God's law and commandments. So they are taking an oath to obey their church.
The "law of sacrifice" requires them to "covenant to sacrifice all that we possess, even our own lives if necessary, in sustaining and defending the Kingdom of God." Mormons understand "the kingdom of God" to be the Mormon church.
The "law of the gospel" is accompanied by a charge to avoid "evil speaking of the Lord's anointed [church leaders]" as well as avoiding "light-mindedness, loud laughter, taking the Lord's name in vain" and every "unholy and impure practice" (not specified).
The "law of chastity" is to abstain from sexual relations except with one's lawful spouse. That one does make sense. That's one of the Ten Commandments, after all.
The last law is the "law of consecration." It requires the Mormons to
...consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.
A couple of terms need explanation. The "Kingdom of God on the earth" and "Zion" mean, to Mormons, not just their church, but ultimately the theocracy that will replace the non-religious civil government. They believe, of course, that Christ will come to run this government, using faithful Mormons as administrators.
The pressing question for Mitt Romney, and for the Mormons who are supporting his candidacy, is: Would Romney consider the Presidency to be something that God had "blessed" him with, and which, pursuant to his secret oath, he should "consecrate" to his church for establishing a theocracy? If he is elected, will he kneel down and thank his God for blessing him with the presidency? And what is he supposed to do, according to his secret oath, with "everything" God has blessed him with? That's right: he is to use it for the benefit of the Mormon church.
Now wait a minute, you may be thinking. It doesn't really mean that! The Mormon church doesn't expect that from its members, does it? Oh, yes, it does! Remember California's Proposition 8? The Mormon church pulled out all the stops to pass that proposition, which would forbid same-sex marriage, and it called upon all Mormons to cough up and donate, even those who were not California voters. Those who were hesitant to do so (often the amounts demanded were thousands of dollars per family) were simply and subtly reminded of their "temple covenants." And they all understood that the church was calling in the chits on the oaths to obey, to sacrifice, and to consecrate whatever the church demanded of them.
How would a President who was also a good Mormon obey those secret oaths?
It wouldn't even take a phone call from church headquarters to the White House. Mitt, being a well-trained Mormon, knows "in his heart" what God would want (which is the same thing that the church wants, of course) and doesn't need to be told. That's the way it works already in the only American theocracy in existence today (Utah). The Mormon politicians who run that state - the judiciary, the legislature, the executive branch - don't have to ask church leaders for direction. They know what they should do, without asking specifically (usually).
The question for American voters is: knowing that Romney has taken this secret oath, that he is a faithful Mormon, do you want him to answer the question "Would you feel bound by your sacred oath to obey the law of consecration that you made in the endowment ceremony and use the power of the presidency to benefit the Mormon church?"
Should it make a difference to you, the voter?
Impeached but not convicted in a republican majority senate. And left office with a high job approval rating.
Those two bills are bad for America. Want proof? Read them. Read what they would have done to America had they passed. That Veteran's bill creates another government office at a cost of a lot of money to decide which five states get the aid. That jobs bill in addition to the so-called veteran's bill increases the cost of gasoline and creates less safe working environments, as well as removal of environmental safeties and also allows people with conflicts of interest to hold oversight positions. All of this is bad for the economy and is bad for American workers and the environment.
When will Americans actually read what the Republicans have saved this country from time and again? Give Congress back to the Democrats and these pieces of legislation that can harm America will pass without removing the garbage that makes what could have been good legislation into bad legislation. They will invoke cloture and run it through without the Republicans being able to stop them. Is that what you really want? Maybe the leaders among the Democrats are right in their belief that the public are too stupid to govern themselves. Perish the thought!
@ Jersy Girl 1- Holder has already been exonerated about Fast and Furious. Don't you keep up with the news? As far as Benghazi- the evidence already shows the CIA, who had agreed to provide security assistance to the compound in Benghazi (it's not an embassy) was on scene within 25 to 30 minutes of the start. The were no orders to "not engage", the Americans had ammo for their weapons and they weren't abandoned no matter how much Faux News puts out false information.
What is really disturbing is Romney and the Republicans saying that if we don't elect him as president, the Republicans in the House will tank the economy. They are using blackmail to try to get Romney in office. I don't like being threatened and that is the surest way to have me working against those who make threats. I hope many Americans feel that way and vote for the Democrats on their ballots.
Nope. The Constitution of the United States has no religious litmus test for the office of the President of the United States. It never should. Anyone who thinks so needs to move to a country where there is a religious litmus test for public office. Perhaps, say, Iran?
And, you are utterly clueless about a great many things Mormon. For instance, if you knew what you claimed you knew, you would know that the official stance of the Mormon Church on the so-called "White Horse Prophecy" is that it is garbage and not authentic.
If you knew what you claimed you knew, you would know that the Mormons do not believe that you have to go to one of their temples to enter into their celestial kingdom. You do have to be baptized into their Church to get there but you don't have to go to a temple to get there. And, in their beliefs heaven is of more than one kingdom and that many of the world's inhabitants would enter into a kingdom of heaven, being Mormon or not.
If you knew what you claimed you knew, you would know that the official position of the Mormon Church is that they have no control over any office of the United States and the official stance is complete political neutrality, except in cases of morality that could affect them in future.
If you knew what you claimed you knew, you also would have known that Mormon involvement in Prop 8 is nowhere near what you claim. In fact, the majority of people involved in that were Catholic. Check the stats. I doubt you will, though.
If you knew what you claimed you knew, you also would know that Utah is anything but a theocracy. I've seen better, more theocratic "theocracies" in the Middle East.
Romney will no more run the country to benefit Mormons and the Mormon Church than did John F. Kennedy for the Roman Catholic Church or even the Pope of Rome. Stop the propagandistic, political nonsense. I'd also stop wearing that tinfoil hat. You need no more reason to do that than to know the meaning of the term Faraday Cage.
And Mormons believe that Joseph Smith (after failing to find the buried treasure of Capt. Kidd), suddenly was given some golden plates by an angel named Moroni who told him to start this new religion.
And they believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers.
And they believe that you can have an eternal marriage ceremony done here on earth and be married to that same person forever in heaven, which of course, is in direction opposition to the holy scriptures where Jesus said people are not married in heaven.
Many more differences too numerous to mention.
That is why Billy Graham always said Mormonism is a cult.
Here is one quote from Billy Graham about what he thinks about cults like Mormonism:
"One of the ways some people seek to fill the empty place in their souls is with false religion—and when a cult leader persuades them that he has all the answers, they will sacrifice almost anything to follow him."
How true, Mr. Graham.
Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma....
“President Obama is refusing to comply with the law that requires him to publish forthcoming regulations because he doesn’t want the American public to know the terrible cost of the regulatory barrage he plans to unleash in a second term.”
“So instead of being honest with the American people about what’s in store if he wins, he’s been trying to hide the fact that he intends to move forward with a slew of rules that will destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and dramatically raise the cost of energy on American families.”
This is the person the left wants to re-elect.... a man that IGNORES the FEDERAL LAW..... at best, he's afraid of the facts...... at worst, he knows the contents & understands the devastation the new rules would have on our country.....
Either way, Mr Obama is VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW..... his oath of office DEMANDS he uphold the Constitution.... while all Barry does is thumb his nose at the responsibility........
Romney/Ryan Express.......... ALL ABOARD....... there's still time to SAVE the UNITED STATES...........
silverton,
Your religious bigotry aside, there is no religious litmus test for the Office of the President of the United States in the Constitution. So, what you wrote is pretty much irrelevant to that question. There are many Evangelicals who have pledged to support Romney, and even Mike Huckabee and Billy Graham have openly endorsed Romney in spite of what they think about Mormons and their religion.
But, now to your comments.
They don't believe that he was suddenly given the plates of the Book of Mormon. Their own text states that it was a period of several years before he could get them after being told about them. Joseph Smith had already seen his first vision in 1820. The treasure business came afterward because of his reputation of being able to find lost things. He also demonstrated that he could read a book with his back to it and his head buried in a hat. So, he got supporters who hired him to look for treasure. He needed the money so he worked for a fellow. He tried to tell the guy he was wasting his time looking for the treasure.
Some years later, he got the plates and showed them to 11 people using two methodologies. Three were shown them in vision; eight others saw the plates and handled them. And, according to Mormon beliefs it was not Moroni who told him to start a new religion. Their texts state that it was Jesus Christ himself who instructed him to do so.
You are taking this belief out of context. They believe that Jesus, Lucifer, and the spirits of all mankind are children of God who are brothers and sisters. The Bible does, after all, speak of the Father as the "Father of spirits" or "Father of our spirits" and that "we are the offspring of God." The Mormons take that literally.
Yes they do believe that families can be together forever. And, it is only interpretation of the passages in the Bible that is the opposite direction of Mormon beliefs on this subject. A careful reading reveals another interpretation that does not conflict with their beliefs on that subject. Read the Matthew version of the passage very carefully. Mark's is in close agreement with Matthew. Luke's version is third-hand at best and contains several theological quandaries of its own.
A literal reading of that Matthew passage from the Greek shows that Jesus was addressing a specific group of people (the seven brothers and the wife who were with the askants of the question) and that there will be no wedding ceremonies and festivities in the resurrection. The Mormons don't see that as a problem because they believe all their eternal marriage ceremonies have to be done before the resurrection. If you don't do it before the resurrection, according to their beliefs, you are out of luck.
But, the moral of the story is: Maybe you should learn a little more about their beliefs and what they based them upon before pontificating about them.
And, you also should consider that religion has nothing to do with whether or not Romney will be a good president. That is the American way. Billy Graham supports Romney and has taken Mormons off the cult list. Try to keep up.
Dems won't win the house. They will the Senate and the Presidency is all.
Only if the Republitards won't work with Obama, again...
I could see republicans winning the Senate and Obama remaining president. Doesn't matter America loses either way.
Harry Reid has stonewalled on every single bill that came to him from the House. He is just as guilty causing the gridlock as the Republicans. But it takes leadership to get both sides to work together and Obama has no ability in that department.
I have a feeling that if the republicans in Congress do not work for the good of the country, they will be cutting their own throat. Two years isn't that long to the next election. If the country doesn't see the republicans and the Democrats working together to help fix what the republicans did to this country, I hope they get bulldozed into the ground so deep that they can't get out of it for 20-30 years. It'd be nice to keep the republicans out of power for that long. We Democrats would have the country back to where it's supposed to be without republican interference. Maybe then they would appreciate this country and it's people more. I'm talking ALL the people not just the privileged few. So if the republicans do retain control of Congress, they are forewarned. Do your job or face the anger of the people. The people can only be fooled for so long and then they will revolt. I'm looking forward to 2014.
If Obama wins we have four more years of crap. He will not work with Congress...he made that choice and he will not change. If the 2010 election did not convince him, nothing else will. The guy wants the US to be a mediocre country.
School's out Truth Conveyer is here.
Jeff, Have you no clue that the repeated name calling makes you appear immature and uneducated? People like you are why there are independents in this country.
The republicons have had their tax cuts for a decade now. Where are the jobs?????
Oh yeah, they exported the jobs to China.
Romney Ignores Bainport While Trying to Take Back 47% Comments
Remember all the crying Democrats the morning after the 2010 midterms? This year is going to be just as sad/funny.
The Republicans got the House in the first place because the Democrats botched our finances so badly, and since then they've gone from bad to worse. Deficits that boggle the mind, no budget in how long now?, and no plan to bring spending in line with revenues. I wouldn't send another Democrat to the House if you paid me.
But I'm not sending a Republican either.
If Obama wins, perish the thought, the only ones willing to work with him after all of his lies and divisive rhetoric will be Putin and Chavez. Obama - Forward to the bottom.
Your emotional feeling is wrong. Use your brain and read the legislation the Democrats have been trying to push through Congress that the Republicans have worked to stop. Read it carefully and see the harm it will do to the economy. See what it would do to the debt ceiling and the allowances for more spending that this legislation makes. See how the environment would be hurt as well as worsening of worker safety. See how it will raise the cost of gasoline to higher than $6/gallon. Many Republicans love money. Hurting the economy as well as the middle class is not in their best financial interests, either. Think about it.
What the dem supporters aren't smart enough to understand is political gamesmanship. the dems put forth this great sounding bill, put in all the emotional pulls and never, ever let on about the stinkbomb buried in the bill, said stinkbomb making it unpassable. Then, when the republicans refuse to pass the bill because of the stinkbomb, the dems wring their hands and point fingers and name call, all the while realizing that the bill was unpassable, and, had a republican put forth such a bill the dems would have killed it from the get go.
it's an old game, the democrats play well. Kind of like lobbing a hot potato at someone and when they drop it, they're called clumsy, stupid and anti-potato.
Exactly right! They do it with an underlying agenda. If they get Americans pissed off enough at Republicans, it makes it so that Democrats get more control of government. Each time they get control they send America down the tubes in a tailspin. They lay legislation all over the place to make for bigger government, and to bring down the economy at times opportune enough to move closer to the goal of their leadership. And, the people have fallen for it each and every time.
The sad thing is that they never left behind their ideal society of aristocrats and enslaved. It is illegal to enslave a single race but they have stumbled on a way to enslave half the country. Each time they get power it moves them closer to that idea. In order to accomplish it fully, however, they must bankrupt the country. That part of their agenda will be accomplished if Americans allow them to take control of all three branches of government. Most Americans don't even realize it is happening under their noses because it just sounds too outlandish and conspiracist.
But, look at each and every piece of legislation they have ever enacted up to now, and careful readers will see the pattern. It took their leaders several presidencies from Carter to Obama to accomplish this much of their agenda but they are very patient. Continued deficit spending of the kind Obama and clan engages in will bring America to its knees, and the foreign powers to whom we owe considerable debt will give the order: "They cannot pay us. Come! Let us divide up the lands of the United States and exact payment in kind." Only, then, we will be too weak to defend ourselves.
Sounds like a conspiracy novel? We'll see. Time will tell.
It sounds like the Media, is going for Romney. They are suppose to keep there private views to themselves, but it shows who is the Republicans in the crowd. I think they are in for a big surprise, OBAMA 2012, I live in NC, I know alot of people voting OBAMA way, and so Romney is going to be disappointed.
ROMNEY IS UNFIT AS AN AMERICAN, UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS TO INEMPT TO WORK FOR THIS COUNTRY, EVERYONE OF THE REPUBLICANS NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE, FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOB. REPUBLICANS PARTY OF HATE
if Romney is unfit, then Obama is even more so, just following his past 4-year records.
you can shout whatever you want to, it doesn't make it true.
As a small business owner, I feel Obama is unfit to deal with the economy and since Benghazi, I now feel he is unfit to deal with foreign affairs as well.
Or JerseyGirl1, you can take responsibility for your own life, like you repugs like to throw out there about everyone, and realize maybe you are just a really bad small business owner. Stop blaming other people for what you don't have -- isn't that what you repugs love to say????
Lady Jag please wait until after the election to pull your head out of your a s s, the vacuum created may cause another storm.
Idiot just plain idiot. Obama is without a doubt the worst president this country will ever have.
The media going for Romney? Wow, that's a first. Fox News? Sure, they appear to be. But the rest? Come on. Did you just come out from under a rock???
Well said, KimV! The small manufacturing company for which I work is busier than ever; we just went to 6 / 10s. During the last year of W and the aftermath of his failed administration (for almost a year) we struggled, but we tightened our belts and rode out the storm. I think the attitude of the business owner and employees have a hell of a lot to do with whether a business fails or suceeds.
Those businesses b*tching and complaining about how bad things are send that message to their customers and their business suffers accordingly. President Obama's policies have helped us ... such as Obama's policy that the government (including the military) "buy American" whenever possible. Orders for the equipment we manufacture that had, under previous administrations, been purchased from Canada, Mexico, China, etc. by our government came knocking on our door.
For more than 10 years the owners have been trying to find reasonably priced health care insurance for the employees without much success. With "Obamacare" we are currently negotiating for plans that offer good coverage for a reasonable price. We all feel the same way - we pay for the healthcare for the "elected representatives" with our tax dollars, why shouldn't our tax dollars help pay for our own health care?
I think too many of these nay-sayers spend WAY too much time allowing themselves to be brainwashed by FAUX Entertainment.
Romney for 1% of Americans, Obama for ALL Americans!
Obama 2012
LADY JAG You are absolutely right. How can the republicans think that they will retain the house, when their approval rating got as low as 9%. We the People have to send these people home for not doing their job. I am outraged that they think that they will retain the house. When they did zero for the american people. If they are voted back in then, there are a lot of ignorant voters in this country. This goes for the democrates also. There job is a two way street. They are suppose to come together and work together to solve problems. so far since 2008 this hasn't happened.
ted - "How can the republicans think that they will retain the house"
Easy, their opponents are Democrats. Didn't you learn anything from the 2010 midterms?
Not only do we need to send the Republicans home, we also need to take away their government pensions. What's good for the goose is .... well, you know.
Here is a bi-partisan idea of how to deal with the house, kick THEM ALL out and replace them with the opposite party!
Hey, when it comes to crafting legislation to destroy civil rights (NDAA) seems both parties can come together. Interesting how that happens, no?
It's all about turnout-go out and vote-the only way to get change is for EVERYONE who is eligible to vote. Every vote does count. The politicians will take us much more seriously if they know all of us are voting. They take the lack of full turnout as permission to do as they please, especially the GOP, because they have no fear of an indifferent electorate.
Vote the GOP out to a man-that will stop the voter suppression. The dirty tricks need to stop. Our right to vote is so important that any party trying to interfere with that right needs to be taught a major lesson.
Remember, it may be minorities today, but tomorrow, it could be you.
I'd make the old joke, "Vote early and often," but then I'd sound like a Republican from Florida.
okie, that comment has actually been made several times in the past week by Democratic leaders. Do you not get any other news where you're at?
All of the election fraud so far has been committed by republicons. Also the voter suppression that has been stopped by the courts.
What do you think of the thousands True the Vote is sending out to intimidate voters?
True The Vote, Tea Party Voting Group, Targeted By Congressional Inquiry
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
Links, please! Or, go back under your rock!
I don't care about the thousands of "True the Vote" intimidators that the Republicans are sending out. All I care about is the one "True the Vote" goon that tries to get in my face.
Edit: I do care about the thousands. If there's a goon at my polling place on Tuesday I'm sure he would avoid me and go after the little old lady.
True the Vote: You may think you're watching me, but I'll really be watching you.
EEJAY
I get it, I live under a rock because you don't like the facts.
I suggest you goggle any name in that list and do your own research.
It seems to me your the uninformed one.
Interesting how the dems on this site ignore the busloads of Somolians being trucked in by the dems and told how to vote, or how a democrat had to step down because he was caught telling people how to vote fraudulently.
Then there are the voting machines in Ohio that vote for Obama even though Romney was selected. The Obama Media isn't going to cover THOSE stories real seriously, can't have attention pointed in that direction, don'cha know.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/video-captures-dem-campaign-cheat-plotting-vote-fraud/
Wow, that's a dark place you live in. I hope you don't drink heavily. Or if you do, that you don't have assault weapons in the closet.
I know it's useless, but just a feeble attempt to inject some sense of reality into the world you live in: even if "the media" were engaged in some overt conspiracy to elect Obama, there is no way that a verified (i.e. true) occurrence of 'voting machines in Ohio that vote for Obama even though Romney was selected' would not be shouted from the rooftops by every Republican in Washington.
Are they doing that? Let's tune in: nope, they're busy being offended that Obama used the word 'revenge'. Are the republicans involved in the conspiracy too?
Your hero Ronald Reagan said 'trust and verify'. You got the first part down, need a little work on the second.
And your hero said "Transparency". Well, that just ain't so. He also said he would cut the deficit in half. Again; not so.
Maybe you need to keep up with the crap your own "Hero" spews instead of being concerned with other people. And.......... did you even check out the link? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Electronic-Voting-Machines-In-Battleground-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama
I know it's useless, but really; all you have to do is click on the underlined writing.
Ahhh, but I did click the link. That was what my post was all about. WND is one of those dark conspiracy sites, where Glenn Beck and Donald Trump are prophets, Obama has a secret plan to destroy the US for his Muslim overlords, and nothing is as it seems. I am always amazed that people buy that stuff, but then, the National Enquirer is still publishing, so what can I say? Barnum said you can fool some people all of the time. Guess I have to agree.
Just for giggles I also clicked your link, which interestingly enough explained why mygirl's dark conspiracy theory is not a republican talking point. Everyone with an iPhone touchscreen is familiar with the frustration of trying to type a letter and getting a different one, and even Breitbart isn't dishonest enough to suggest that such errors favor one candidate over another.
BTW, I've never been a fan of touchscreens, especially when doing something important like voting, because they are sloppy and prone to error. But this is what we're getting these days, so be careful.
And the conspiracy theorists that were erroneously speaking about the black panther suppression of voters who were conservatives............. don't forget how bizarre that was, right?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
If the REPUBLICANS, GET IN, women need to look out, for some reason they seem to want us in the back corner. If the REPUBLICANS, win we will lose our right to vote probably. They want women underpaid, no Welness benefit, and they really are messed up over rape Like I said the REPUBLICANS are the party of HATE.
scare tactics?
So why are the women working in the white house paid less the men for the same work? I also remember The democrat women in congress on this rant until it was shown THEY where some of the worst offenders on equal pay. So I guess both side are guilty of using women on this issue
Oh yeah, sure. I saw that in their platform. Lower taxes, get people employeed, don't let women vote. Are you freaking delusional?
The republicon War on Women is real. They have voted against women already.
Reason Number 203 That The GOP War On Women Is Very Real | MoveOn.Org
The 31 Republican Senators Who Voted ‘NO’ On The Violence Against Women Act | MoveOn.Org
Which 47 People Just Proved There Is A Damn War On Women? | MoveOn.Org
Lady JAG? Not so much HATE as FEAR. FEAR of change, FEAR of the future. FEAR of anyone taking advantage of them, FEAR of facts that don't align to their preconceived notions, FEAR of concepts that are outside their comfort zone....
I see the new conservatives selling FEAR! They wield FEAR as a weapon, and scare the BEEGEEBERS out-ah folks who should know better.
And no, I don't believe the new conservative, ultra-right, tea bagger loonies are Republican either. I don't know WHAT Michelle Bachman is, but in my Republican Party, she would have been laughed out of the House and censured for blind stupidity.
Lady Jag - Did you not see what was done to Hillary?
"Hey Hillary, you're going to do me a favor so I can attempt to keep my office... get out there and take responsibility for this Benghazi thing.... thanks dollface."
For any woman to say that if Romney gets elected "we may lose our right to vote" is so stupid that to call it stupid is an insult to stupid people.
This must be a republican poster imitating a democrat. Lose the right to vote? Seriously?
Aw, that's too bad. If you're Democratic, you can vote all your life;
as many times as you can- and even after you're dead, as well!!!!Go after all the Teabag scum, getting rid of them would be a major improvement. They are obstructionist and nothing else
President Romney. All of you libtards are going to freak out!
If Romney gets elected I will refer to him as President Azzhole.
Joe, I agree, but we need to add to your list ignorant liberals who think they can tax their way to a solution. Then, we will have cleaned house as you suggest we should. The list of obstructionist needs to include Reid and Pelosi.
Bigdog----you should really look in the mirror.....Clinton by the way gave ICBM tech to the chicoms, great pres he was huh?!?!?
in the middle? How about some common sense for a change? How about....if we EVER send our military to fight another war....that we ALL pitch in to support the effort and EVERYONE has to sacrifice a bit for the common good. How about clean bills through congress with NO riders and NO "pork". Sentaor McCain was calling for that back when he was true a maveric. How about passing a Constitutional ammendment "Congress shall pass NO LAW for which they are exempt" Why not have elections built on a vision and a clear plan for success? Or am I too ignorant a liberal for you?
Go after the left wing socialist faculty lounge liberals that seek to reduce this country to third world status with political correctness and mediocrity for all.
Brutal- ....and Reagan armed and trained OSAMA BIN LADEN great pres. he was huh??
JT, If that is your true opinion, then you are not one of those ignorant ones that I referenced. I agree completely with your post, except for the implication that some don't do their part. I take this to mean that you want more taxes for the wealthy?
Otherwise, yes, a vote should be a vote for a single and specific topic. Too often we attack the other side for voting down a bill, when they were actually voting against some stupid rider to the bill. Want to vote on a womens health issue? Well, don't add pet construction projects to it. It really is that simple, but these nuts we elect don't get it.
Surprised that PA was cited as the most successfully GOP gerrymandered state because the GOP really did a number on Ohio too.
Because 2010 SWEPT everyone into office to STOP Obama....DUH. Obama will not triumph in Ohio, and his record is proof of it. No passion, no flare, just an empty slogan.....again.....Forward.....like the "great leap FORWARD" that did China soooooo much good.
WAKE UP AND VOTE OBAMA OUT!
Obama is leading in Ohio by 5 points right now...
Most polls already have put PA, MI, and NV into the Obama column.
Obama gets OH, WI
Game, set, match!
IA, VA, NH, CO, NC, FL is merely icing on the cake.
The only way for us to be heard is get off that couch, get to polls and vote, VOTE DEMOCRATIC, if you want a better AMERICA, vote DEMOCRATIC. The REPUBLICANS have lost their way., and common sense.
We been wanting a better America for 4 years and what have you got..a broke America with no jobs and gas 4 bucks a gal ..surely you don't want that 4 more years. Vote Republican like the smarter Democrats will.
Joe66 - Smart Democrats and Independents will be or have been voting for Obama. Only the demented will vote for Mitt the nitwit!
Obama/Biden 2012
why? Dems are not better than Repubs.
real independents won't buy either one, but would vote for a replacement rather than stick to a known evil.
THIS INDEPENDENT for Obama/Biden - didn't you see the choice?
Romney is LIAR, a phony and NOT good for the US!
Cell, I agree with the sentiment, but I think the peasants will go more with "the devil they know", Obama, than the relatively unknown evil, Romney.
Then why is it that the states Obama likes to point to as his successes all elected Republican governors and legislators?
Cellisis, while I agree, I also think we have a responsibility to protect the country from the worst case, if one exists. I preferred Hillary in the last election, but switched to McCain because Obama is just dangerous. This election...nothing but Romney. Until a third party puts up a legitimate candidate, I will vote for the least dangerous of the electable candidates.
So, in the middle, you will vote for the person who lies to you, tells you what you want to hear?
Birds of a feather stick together.
So the liars are voting for Robme.
Yes, bigdog, if I think they can do a better job. But also keep in mind, many people feel that Obama has lied too. I know, shocking, right?
No taxes on poor people? Well, smoking disproportionately impacts low income people. Obama raised federal taxes on cigarettes within a month of becoming president.
And my favorite, will he enforce DOMA? He said he would. And, how does he define marriage? That sure has changed in the past four years.
They all lie. They're human. Are you proposing that Obama never lies? That would be rediculous. Also, keep in mind that one persons lie is anothers perspective. You may think they are all lies, but full context, which we usually don't get, may just open your eyes to the reality.
In short, if all you have is "Mitt Lies" then you might as well not vote at all, because so does Obama.
Northern Mi,
Because they are conservatives in name only. They know that the governors will take every dime from the feds they can and cut services along with giving big business tax cuts. Makes them look good until they step on the peoples throats with bills like the Emergency Manager Act or cutting public service unions throats. Vote no on 1, 5 and 6. Yes on 2,3 and 4.
on the middle, Mitt doesn't lie. He just etch-a-sketches. He will tell you one thing, then tell the next group he is talking to the complete opposite. Obama's lies are consistent. That would then look like perspective.
if people are poor how can they afford cigarettes? if they are selling their food stamps so they can buy cigarettes, then I have zero sympathy for them.
if people smoke they are stupid.
stupid is as stupid does, that's what my mama always says!
The article left out Teabagger Joe Walsh in Indiana who is going down.
J. Willard Marriott - sadly Joe Walsh is in Illinois but gladly he IS going down!
Obama/Biden/Duckworth (to take out Walsh)
Walsh will lose and Tammy will beat Tommy in Wisconsin.
Maquette poll, which is right leaning, has Obama leading 51% to 43% by likely voters. The Marquette poll was very accurate during the Walker recall.
Marguette poll
Looks like most of the smarter Democrats are voting for Romney and why not?
NO, Joe66 . . . THEY ARE NOT . . . . OBAMA is winning, because smart & educated people - Dems AND REpub's - have seen through Myth Robme's lies . . . .
Obama’s Electoral College ‘Firewall’ Holding in Polls
NATE SILVER - THE. BEST. POLLING. DATA. EVER.! ***UPDATED LAST NIGHT***
Nate predicts on Nov. 6,
President Obama is 80.9% likely to win 303+ Electoral College votes!
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President Obama chances of winning: the popular vote - 78.5%
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President Obama chances of winning: OH - 80.5%
President Obama chances of winning: PA - 96.2%
President Obama chances of winning: VA - 66.4%
President Obama chances of winning: NH - 77.8%
President Obama chances of winning: WISC - 91.2%
President Obama chances of winning: NV - 87.7%
President Obama chances of winning: CO - 64.6%
President Obama chances of winning: IOWA - 78.8%
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nov-1-the-simple-case-for-saying-obama-is-the-favorite/#more-37035
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4 MORE DAYS TIL THE CHUBBY LADY SINGS, and Myth Robme & Lyin' Ryan go home . . . . to states that didn't vote for them!
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O & JOE - FORWARD! (Myth Robme - 1040's, because you LIED to Mass voters about your state taxes, and are probably lying about your Fed taxes!)
who cares?
Please come back next Wed. morning and tell us all what happened to Dumbo losing....
You do apparently....
Whatever. Romney will win in a landslide!!!! You better get used to saying President Romney!! It is coming libtards!!!
G Man, I'm with you, but don't sink to their level with the name calling. Yes, they do seem to be impaired, but the name you chose is inappropriate. They can't help it.
sorry middleman libtard is not only appropriate, but accurate. I have had it with their ignorance. A mental disorder is the only thing that can explain such blind ignorance.
Wow. In this #12 section I find 4 new people to put on ignore: Howdid, Gman, middle (you had it coming for a while), and Steve Travis. I'm going to stop reading these posts now, because if I don't I'll have no one to poke fun at on Wednesday.
Obama-Biden
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From Personal Knowledge: Mitt Romney while at BAIN, put two of my uncles out of work, they had worked for 35 years and 42 years on their job, and ROMNEY, took their RETIREMENT, one uncle lost his home because not being able to find a job that paid what he was making, he worked two jobs after MITT gone through with him. He moved in with his sister, but he never got over losing his job. He was a great person. He was the very best relatives you could ask for, and if ROMNEY would that to my family, in my opinion, he does not deserve to be PRESIDENT, because, he would out source AMERICA, the man is not fit to be an AMERICAN, much less PRESIDENT. I know the devastation he cause in so many lives of relatives and friends. NO REPUBLICAN will get my vote this year. If you don't believe me, fine, I know, so that is all that matters. But I can tell you this, if there is any way to put the AMERICAN US Treasury in his pocket ROMENY will find a way.
Well I guess you are going to be diapointed next week. L.O.L.
Lady, Do you have any clue how many jobs Clinton's policies sent out of our country? And don't give me this "he had a surplus" garbage. A surplus in the governments budget meant tax payers were charged to much. That's not a good thing.
Romney was a business man, responsible for making the best decisions given his role. I have absolute faith that as the president he will make the same quality of decisions for the entire country. The question is this, when he is successful and Americans are back to work, will you be "man enough" to admit you were wrong?
Bain Capital is closing a factory in Illinois right now. They have been doing this for years. Are they coming for your job next?
Romney Ignores Bainport While Trying to Take Back 47% Comments
LadyJag ... Yup, and this is the man who would be king ... er ... CEO ... er ... lord and master ... whatever, of the United States! You know; SAINT ROMNEY! He Likes to fire people who work for him. He doesn't care for half of the citizens he claims to want to represent, we are just not willing to take responsibility for ourselves and we think we are victims. See, that's how he consoled himself when he did all those rotten things to American workers ... he told himself that it was the WORKERS fault, that if they had been saints, like him, and taken responsibility for their lives, those bad things wouldn't have happened to them.
Americans, for the most part are pretty smart people and they see through Romney's corporate veil. He is a snarky, lying frat boy who cares ONLY for himself and those in his same socio-economic circle.
Romney for 1% of Americans. Obama for ALL Americans!
Obama 2012
Appel,
Just so you know, every time Obama attacks Republicans he is against nearly 40% of Americans. It sounds like he is not qualified either by your standards. You sound mad at Romney. Did he do something mean to you?
In the middle How can you believe anything mitt says he has lied consistently thruout his campaign and beyond. The man has no credibility. Look at his record in Mass. He did not honor his campaign promises at all. In fact he ignored them. What makes you think he will be any different as president? Use your common sense Man!
You REPUBs sound just like Myth Romney - just keep repeating the same old lies over and over and hope someone believes you. It won't work here dudes!
I am so glad we are coming to the end of this election. It will be close, but as we say, Let the best men win. So O & Joe prevail.
The unfortunate thing is that these Republicans will still hate, lie, misrepresent and obstruct. Some of the posters seem so proud of the 2010 elections. And lets face it, they have a deep bullpen. They have so much talent to draw on. Bachman, Perry, Santorium, Cain, Akin, McDonough, O'Donnell, Engel, Gingrich, Trump, the list goes on. Skilled and intelligent Politicians one and all.
So we have our work cut out for us. So come 2014 we need to come up with more Warrens and Duckworths. Kick these tea bagging, american taliban fools out of the House and Senate, Take back our Country and move foward.
signed,
Blue Balls in a Red State
Maybe they just weren't worth a @!$%#. Your uncles, that is.
Mitt Romney said: On day one, I will outsource the call center for food stamps (bridge card) to China. We will save 99% in wages right there and so many won't be able to understand Mandarin, they won't be able to keep the card. My day one is going to be so full I had to move building 300 ships to day two. Please don't tell anyone those ships are either on the drawing board or being built right now...
in the middle, are you for, or are you not for paying down the national debt? If there was a surplus, it doesn't mean we are paying too much. It means Clinton's AND the republicans policies were working. That surplus was going to pay down the debt as well as pay for some much needed infrastructure business need to do business efficiently, like road repairs, bridges, water systems and power grids. Only after the debt was paid down should tax cuts have happened. Paying the debt isn't/wasn't as simple as just going to the note holder and hand them money for the note back, they had to expire first.
Voting for ANY goper is pure insanity.
These people have been out to destroy this country for decades. Why? The United States society was built by Democrats, Liberals and Progressives. By definition conservatives don't build anything. They destroy.
if you knew any history you would know that the democrats was the conservative party back then.
Then call me crazy. But, out of curiosity, what definition are you referencing? You make bold (and historically inaccurate) statements, then don't back them up with specifics or details (because they don't exist). This tells me you're probably just a hot head.....just a guess though.
"By definition conservatives don't build anything. They destroy"
Clearly he is a prisoner in more than ways than just politically... but that is to be expected from an Obama supporter.
the dems. will make some progress towards gaining control of the house.when the pres. gets re-elected the remaining repubs. in the house will be forced to work with him if they don't they will be voted out in 2014.
Remember that feeling you had the morning after the 2010 midterms? get ready to feel it again. How you can be that far out of touch with reality again is mind-boggling.
I like Chuck Lorre's Vanity Card from last night "Ask yourself if you are better off than the sh*t storm we were in 4 years ago"
They already did a poll on that, most Americans aren't.
Do you have sources for that info?
Americans voting for their Representative could mean that the 7% approval rating for Congress is too high.
Allowing Americans to vote seems more and more like giving up the practice of having running children carry open scissors, but instead have them play a new game of wrist slashing with straight razors.
This should reduce the Congress's approval even further but maybe the 7% approval rating for Congress was really wasn't meant to describe Congress at all. It is possible that the 7% rating was for American Voter themselves a clear sign of a low status condition. This makes more sense than expecting Congress to actually be the best and brightest choice to Represent all the Voters. The voter is in effect disapproving of their self and is just so honest about their shortcomings that they are willing to vote for the first class loser that most closely represents their self. This explains the lack of any constructive being done in Congress because the fearful voter would not want the responsibility to actually do anything either. (Do nothing Congress genuinely represent the Do Nothing Voter.)
Since the voters have so little respect for themselves we cannot expect them to make straight forward rational choice at the poll, but is playing different game entirely.
This is just 'fear of responsibility' by the voter, who in fearing a responsibility that could cause the voter harm if he actually made an informed choice, to throw the 7% Congress out; fearing that additional decisions might be need to guide a new congress person being one result. (Don't blame me Blame the other guy, combined with don't ask me either.)
The Voter in this election is probably selecting the worst possible candidate, knowing full well that the Voter will need someone else to blame when things don't work out. Americans indeed make a life out of avoiding responsibility.
This is a self-condemning exercise, if the voter from a district were forced into a line for say the executioner, then their choice to be at the head of the line would be their chosen representative. The voter would want to move back further back in the line, to avoid blame.
Now that we have been told this we can and will vote for the least qualified candidate in the least qualified party.
NOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS WE CAN AND WILL VOTE FOR THE LEAST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE IN THE LEAST QUALIFIED PARTY.
Americans are just not very good a facing problem down before it occurs, always preferring to wait until they really get clobbered. The fear strategy used to retain power in Congress always works; fear is one item that preserves the status quo.
Returning this Congress to Again to power will be living proof that Americans just don't know what they are doing.
unless this 2-party system is replaced, nothing will change.
Obama's hope and change have been replaced by status quo he promised to destroy 4 years ago. what an irony! it's too bad that some still believe him, and rather to give him 4 more years and expect a different result from him. how ignorant people can be really?
Cellisis, the problem is not that Obama didn't change enough, but that Romney won't even try.
That makes no sense, Romney is not the President yet! Obama is running on his record of the past 4 years, not Romney!
Yes Robme is running on his record.
He will not release his taxes because they will show that he took that amnesty for tax cheaters.
He had 707 of his vetoes overturned when he was governor. So much for bipartisanship.
He was known as the pioneer of outsourcing while running Bain Capital, which is shipping a factory to China right now.
That is Romney's record.
Obama did not change enough?!?!?! No, he did plenty. In fact, since he got so much done in the last four years, maybe he should take the next four off.
What will happen is President Obama will ask Reid to go ahead and let the bills come up for a vote. If any passes with the poison pills in them, he will veto them. The republicans won't have the 2/3rds needed to over-ride them. He will also write
signingveto statements describing why he vetoed them.Oh, and the other possibility could be President Obama agreeing with the republican house on everything. They will then do a 180 and pass exactly what the president wants.
Getting rid of harry Reid will do wonders for Congress. The gridlock in DC is the fault of the voters in Nevada. Shame on you!
There's not even a 1% chance of the Democrats taking the House.
This Election is Only About How Much the Democrats Are Going to Lose. The Presidency? 1 senate seat? 2? 3? Majority control of the Senate?
Obama stays in the White House.
Dems pick up 2 Senate seats.
Dems pick up 10 to 12 House seats.
A) Possible
B) Very Unlikely
C) Almost Impossible.
But, the idea of "taking the House" is not even worth discussing.
Not only do I agree with Chesty, I'm entertained by the name as well.
A) is gonna happen
B) probably pick up 1 seat
C) there was not discussion about picking up the House, but they will gain some seats there. unfortunately we will be stuck with John "Crybaby" Boner as House Majority Leader for at least 2 more years.
Great, another four years of the idiot repugs doing everything they can to move this country forward. They have no desire whatsoever to help the American people -- it's all about power and control to them. They are a disgrace to this country and to our political system. I have no respect for repugs or anyone who votes for them.
The feeling is mutual, I'm sure.
SERIOUSLY??
You MIGHT want to talk about GOP prospects for taking the Senate; far more likely than this piece of fantasy.
The obstructionist Republicans in Congress are traitors, plain and simple. They should all be voted out. When Bush was pres he got everything he wanted and millions died and our nation was bankrupted (hell, the world!).
Obama gets in an inherits Bush's financial quagmire and Obama gets NOTHING.
TRAITORS, LIARS, and CORPORATE SHILLS = Republican Congress.
Millions died....because of Bush? Millions may have died during those years, but I think most of them were going to die regardless of who the POTUS was at the time. You're giving Bush way too much credit.
Also, just for the record, Obama had a Democrat controlled house and senate for 2 years. Stop complaining. He failed because he failed....plain and simple.
DUMP all teabaggers! They are what's wrong with the country! They are the party of NO.
The GOPers will have to change if they expect to get mainstream people back into their party and get rid of Grover Norquist the unelected mouth of that party.
This INDEPENDENT proudly voted for Obama/Biden!!!
LOL, this democrat woman in Nevada voted today...(straight republican ticket)
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
Lol Suz "independent" hahahahahhahahahah. Nice Women for Obama picture, Ms. Independent, hahahahaha.
At least this means Democrats are retrenching closer to their final defense line...in past months they lied that they were Republicans now voting Democrat, today, with most polls showing Obama losing independents by 10 pts or more, they're trying to invent faux-mentum amongst that group and claim they're independents for Obama.
Yeah, suzq....that's a real hard sell you're trying. I'm not sure anyone will buy you being independent. You may try it next time without screaming and name calling. Just a thought.
Don't care what you fools believe!
I used to be a Republican but became an INDEPENDENT during GHWBush's presidency. I vote for the man/woman NEVER the party.
Again, I just don't buy it. You say you vote for the person, but yet you attacked an entire party. You can't have it both ways. Change your name to suzD.
THIS GOP is not the old party I used to be part of. This GOP is full of whackadoodle teabaggers with no sense. You can call me SuzD or whateve you want - I know who I'm voting for and WHY! All DEMS for me and I'm not alone!
I'm voting for the democrats, but only because I believe in their ideas. Last time Democrats had control over congress they were a serious disappointment. Too many of them would not support the democratic agenda and then tried to throw President Obama under the bus for not getting things done. Well, they were the problem, and he's still mopping up their mess.
Both sides are at fault, this supposed 2 party system is really 1 with 2 heads.
Well, your screen name explains why you would make such a vote. We understand.
"The gridlock in Washington is due to a lack of leadership in the White House, plain and simple. You elect Obama again, you get the same results. Obama and Harry Reid will not work across the aisle."
Yikes! And people with these thoughts vote! The meaning of this statement is that Obama did not capitulate to the Tea Party.
Obama not only didn't capitulate to the Tea Party, he didn't capitulate to John Boehner, He didn't capitulate to his own Simpson-Bowles commission, he didn't capitulate to any serious cuts in his massive federal government expenditure or any serious reductions in his huge deficits.
And the Tea Party did not capitulate to the democrats, including President Obama. But the Tea Party did influence the 2010 election and they will have their say again on Tuesday.
Bottom line is that Republicans want a smaller, leaner government. Democrats believe government should take care of most our needs.
We can't keep spending and think we can pay for it by more taxes on the rich. Everybody will eventually have to pay with higher taxes or reduced services. Pick your poison.
"Bottom line is that Republicans want a smaller, leaner, government."
Prove it. I submit the following rebuttal.
Department of Homeland Security
Transportation Safety Administration
But the republicons want to eliminate FEMA!
Funny thing is, just a few short years ago many Democrats wanted to get rid of it because it was a waste of government resources. How soon people forget.
Try to keep up. Mitt Romney does not want to eliminate FEMA. That is a Democrat propaganda piece. What he wants to do is to put more responsibility for disaster relief on the States for faster response times and more accountability.
Here is the latest from Romney:
So much for his desire to get rid of FEMA entirely...
The past 4 years, GOP has spent more time and money to repeal the Obama healthcare reform than passing the bills for creating more jobs to help the unemployed and to stimulate the economy.
GOP's reluctant care about the people is so obvious that evidently showing on the record of the passed bills in which they are reluctant to pass bill than any Congress in any decade; the GOP-controlled Congress has delayed either to pass bill or to discuss the bill.
Please vote for Democrats and re-elect President Obama/Biden 2012.
You are only fooling yourself if you think the democrats will not lose across the board. Obama will be defeated, and he will go down in history as the worse defeat ever!!!
VOTE ROMNEY RYAN 2012!!!!!
DesertKing...sorry, but after the Republicans did nothing the past four years to help President Obama or even cooperate a little with him for the good of the USA - and the country is still slowly regaining what it lost solely because of President Obama's efforts - I'm voting for him, and anyone else who was with the president.
VOTE OBAMA - BIDEN 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Romney is running on CHANGE, but it will be nothing but "loose change" for working Americans!
The USA needs to re-elect President Obama and VP Joe Biden!
Romney is running on CHANGE, but it will be nothing but "loose change" for working Americans!........what do we have now master of ignorance after 4 yrs of nobama? What does france have after 10 yrs of war on the rich and business? what does greece, spain, france, etc have in common? and finally, who was in power the first two yrs of nobama? I guess the dems didnt like his budget either but you keep that head in the sand buddy, it is pretty scary.
Joseph, He did not need their help for the first two and he still failed. Try to get this, O b a m a f a i l e d b e c a u s e h e i s a b a d p r e s i d e n t.
Elections 101 If you want to see the Country become a Government liken to Iran, Syria, China, Iraq (Saddam Hussein), then vote for Obama, he believes in big government rule. If not then Vote for Romney, he believes in your rule No more need for any more debates, this is the main front and center fact of this campaign. No need for talking points, the people in China are not Paranoid, they are living in it.
Trying to sabotage the American economy is TREASON, why aren't these anti-American house Republicans facing a firing squad?
They signed a contract with the representative of a few Billionaires to not raise taxes on their masters and instead destroy the country while making sure Obama is a one term presisdent. That is Terrorisim, the Republicans are anti-American Terrorists.
You haven't read the legislation the Dems are upset about being blocked, have you? If anyone is trying to sabotage the American economy, it is the Dems for running the economy into the ground with high deficit spending. You should take a good, close and hard look at each piece of legislation that the Dems have been trying to push through. Are you ready to pay more than $6/gallon for gasoline? If the recent legislation had been allowed to pass, that is what you and all Americans would end up paying. Have you any idea what that will do to the economy in its fragile state? The prices of everything would go up in addition, further burying Middle Class America.
Were you aware that the Dems were trying to push through legislation that would make it possible for people to hold oversight positions even in cases of conflicts of interest? That they were trying to push through legislation that would make gasoline more expensive? That they were trying to use jobs legislation to repeal laws that deal with worker and environmental safety? That they were trying to use jobs legislation to raise the debt ceiling, increase spending even further and change the trigger amounts in association from $1,500,000,000,000 to $1,950,000,000,000? That they were trying to create new government bureaucracy just to decide which five states out of fifty would be eligible for aid in veteran's affairs and jobs? That the Dems were trying to stop debate and pass bills that are harmful to the economy by invoking cloture, and that that is what really have been blocked were the cloture motions?
They don't want debate on the legislation they try to pass. They don't want Americans to understand what it is that they are trying to do to America. The Republicans in office do understand what is going on and they are trying to prevent passage of any bill that will increase spending or hurt America's economy further.
Read all the legislation and voting records and see for yourself! Make sure you understand it all. Once you do, you will turn around and thank the Republicans for what they are doing. The Dems are trying to sabotage the economy by raising the cost of living for the middle and lower classes, and they are doing it disguised as jobs and veterans legislation. Reid needs to be deposed from office. He has already stated in public fora that he will refuse to work with anybody to accomplish anything for the next two or more years if Obama does not get elected to a second term. He has stated that he will obstruct the workings in Congress. And, it will not be to protect anyone. It is his plan for petty revenge that he could not get his agenda passed and legislated, and nothing more.
You are the epitome of the (R)USH ubli CON wetdream HEEL HOUND LOYAL and as dumb as a door knob-Great for a Fox News(heh-heh) Fan but not part of fixing "OUR" problems. The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
You wish! I don't watch Fox News. I don't listen to talk radio. But, I do read legislation very carefully. You very obviously haven't. So, do the smart thing and go read all the latest legislation and get educated. You may also want to sue the education system where you attended. They failed you miserably.