Obama, Romney bring their closing arguments to the Midwest

 

Updated 2:35 p.m. ET -- Four days before voters head to the polls, President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney sought to bring their different economic visions into sharp relief before throngs of Midwestern voters who could decide the election.

Romney, who delivered on Friday what he said was the “closing argument” of his campaign, said the economy was hopelessly mired in stagnation under Obama, and promised to deliver “real change” if elected.

Jim Young / Reuters

Supporters of Mitt Romney gesture at a campaign rally in West Allis, Wis., Nov. 2, 2012.

Obama pointed to green shoots of economic recovery while barnstorming battleground Ohio, accusing his Republican opponent of deception on the question of change, as well as the 2009 auto industry rescue that could swing the outcome of the election.

Romney started the day with a speech in the battleground state of Wisconsin, assailing Obama for having failed at his promise to change Washington; Romney said his experience in the private sector and as governor of Massachusetts has shown he can boost the economy and bridge partisan divides that have grinded lawmaking in the nation’s capital to a virtual halt.

“The question of this election comes down to this: do you want more of the same or do you want real change?” Romney asked. “President Obama promised change, but he could not deliver it. I promise change, and I have a record of achieving it.”

A robust campaign schedule for Obama and Romney, along with their running mates, brought the campaign back to its central issue -- jobs and the economy -- just as a key monthly employment report showed that the U.S. added more jobs than expected in October. The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimated that the economy added 171,000 jobs last month -- though the unemployment rate inched upward to 7.9 percent as the size of the American workforce grew.

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“This morning we learned that companies hired more workers in October than at any time in the last eight months,” Obama said at a Friday rally in Ohio. “We've made real progress, but we are here today because we know we've got more work to do. As long as there's a single American who wants a job but can't find one ... our fight goes on.”

The stasis in campaigning that set in following the landfall of Hurricane Sandy earlier this week had all but faded Friday, as both campaigns resumed their full-throated critiques of one another.

Romney sought to wrest the mantle of “change” away from Obama, continuing on a theme he has stressed in recent weeks, and going so far as warning on Friday that if the U.S. doesn't change course, it could risk slipping back into recession.

Obama has long blamed Republican obstructionism and special interests for impeding his agenda, and thereby, the pace of economic recovery.

GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney rallies in West Allis, Wisconsin criticizing President Obama failed policies.

Romney, who made his first stop in Wisconsin since naming Paul Ryan, a congressman from the state, as his running mate, suggested his experience as governor of Massachusetts and a former private equity executive would help him succeed where Obama had failed.

Jobs data unlikely to sway undecided voters

"I have watched over these last few months as our campaign has gathered the strength of a movement," Romney said. "I will reach out to both sides of the aisle. I will bring people together, doing big things for the common good. I won’t just represent one party, I’ll represent one nation. I’ll try to show the best of America, at a time when only our best will do."

Romney traveled next to Ohio, where he would join Obama in courting the vote of the Buckeye State -- a pivotal Midwestern battleground where the outcome could determine the winner of the Electoral College.

There, the president upbraided Romney on the notion that the Republican nominee could deliver change, ridiculing the GOP nominee’s proposals as little more than warmed-over leftovers from the Bush administration.

At a campaign event in Hilliard, Ohio, President Obama criticized Governor Romney's message of change, saying the GOP presidential candidate is "a very talented salesman."

“We know what the right choice is, but let's face it, Gov. Romney is a talented salesman,” he said, accusing his Republican opponent of repackaging tired GOP ideas. “We know what change looks like, and what the governor's offering ain't it.”

The Obama campaign has relied on Ohio to serve as a kind of “firewall” for the president, concentrating for months on building an advantage over Romney in hopes of impeding the GOP candidate’s path to 270 electoral votes. Obama has led Romney by a slim, but consistent, margin in most public polls, prompting the Republican ticket to ratchet up its attacks on the administration’s handling of the auto industry bailout.

Romney’s offensive includes a series of new ads taking aim at the president on the issue of the auto industry bailout, stoking (incorrect) fears that Jeep would move production and jobs from the U.S. to China.

First Thoughts: A status-quo election?

Those suggestions earned him a strong rebuke from both the president, as well as Vice President Biden, who campaigned in Wisconsin, a state that has reliably supported Democrats in recent presidential cycles.

With Election Day looming, the state of Ohio has become the game-changer with President Obama and Mitt Romney planning six visits in the last four days of the presidential race. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

"Everyone knows it’s not true. The car companies themselves have told Gov. Romney to knock it off," Obama said of the ads, accusing Romney of trying to scare the state’s autoworkers. "You don’t scare hardworking Americans just to scare up some votes. That’s not what being president is all about. That’s not leadership."

Biden, speaking in Beloit, went a step further: “In the last hours of this campaign, Romney and Ryan have become truly desperate. Romney will say anything to win.”

But Republicans returned to the issue of employment, arguing Friday that the employment situation had scarcely improved over the last four years, and hardly matched the White House’s projections upon selling its stimulus package in January of 2009. That, they said, justified Obama’s expulsion from office.

“In the president’s campaign for another term, he has offered nothing different and if he is re-elected, nothing different is exactly what we would get,” Ryan said at a rally in Colorado. “And we are not going to let him get away with that are we?”

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4 more years...

timing is everything in politics, and Mitt doesn't understand that.

Mitt is a copycat (or copyVulture) - a bad student immitating President Obama.

There is time when change was good (2008) and there is time when status quo is good (2012) after President Obama has moved the nation in the right direction without any cooperation from the GOP.

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Forward...

  • 186 votes
#1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

Yes, Romney does promise change. Change Americans want no part of. We do not want Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security changed. We do not want couponcare. We don't want our tax dollar to go to the wealthy. We don't want to go back to the days before Roe v Wade.

In short, we don't want Romney.

  • 209 votes
#1.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:26 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Israel absentee ballots Romney 84% Obama 16%. Bad omen for Obama with American Jews. Benghazi now being recognized as a scandalous cover-up and gross incompetence. The largest Las Vegas newspaper calls Obama "unworthy to be commander in chief." Unemployment goes up with real unemployment numbers at above 14%.

Deja Vu -- 1980 Incumbent Carter loses to upstart Reagan who was behind in polls but unemployment was at 7.5%. Sweet dreams libs.

  • 67 votes
#1.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

Who believes a word this guy says anymore? Wow.

Everyday he takes a different stand on an issue.

No thanks Romney, you can keep that change.

  • 167 votes
#1.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:30 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

“A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus.” Martin Luther King Jr. -- Not Obama.

"Leaders own the outcome, even when they may not be the one directly responsible for creating it. Blame never helps anything, and when we point a finger we have to remember that most of them point at us. Leaders are willing to take the blame and carry the responsibility for what happens." -- Not Obama

"Leaders may not always agree with the course being taken, but they know that a house divided cannot stand. They continually drive toward unity because they know a team united has far more power than one divided. They support the group direction putting their own wishes on the back burner." -- Not Obama

"One of the most powerful things a leader can do is be transparent with their failings and say ‘I’m sorry’ when they make a mistake. Everyone knows you are not perfect so it won’t be news to them. What will be news, and will gain you fans for life, is admitting it and asking those around you to help pick up the pieces and move forward." -- Not Obama

Making Excuses or Blaming Others for Failures: Since leaders set the tone for their organization, blaming others when failures occur is pointless. A leader must accept responsibility when projects fall short, identify the problem, and strategize how to prevent such issues from occurring again. -- Not Obama

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/7176176

  • 46 votes
#1.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Definitely want four more years of President Obama. Romney built his whole campaign on the economy not improving and guess what, the economy is improving. I believe President Obama will help the economy more than Romney and already has.

  • 160 votes
#1.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

Romney would change us all back to the dark ages. NO THANK YOU!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 151 votes
#1.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

Mitt's change is to go back to the same old Bush policies that got us in this mess in the first place.

Mitt Robme wants to rob the middle class - a change for the worse

Mitt wants to give more tax cut for the rich - worth $5 trillion that is to worsen the debt problem

Mitt wants to have Big Bird as his lunch

We can't afford 1 day of Mitt Administration

  • 132 votes
#1.8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

"I promise change."

Mitt, we know you're Mister EtchOSketch. We don't want your kind of change. :)

  • 128 votes
#1.9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:41 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJohn-2032532Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

  • 60 votes
#1.10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Despite what the Obama campaign wants you to believe, early voting results show President Obama doesn't have an advantage over Governor Romney.

In fact, Mitt currently leads Barack Obama 52% to 45% among voters who have already cast their ballots.

Poll after poll reports Mitt leading among independents -- and 2.5 million independents in battleground states have either voted or have ballots in hand.

  • 46 votes
#1.11 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

Gee, where have we heard that one before? But let's do it again and expect different results this time.

Help Gary Johnson get 5% of the popular vote this election, and we'll get a real choice in 2016. End the two party system.

  • 14 votes
#1.13 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

Mitt Romney "I Promise Change"....

Wait a minute. I thought that's what you have been doing for your whole campaign. I change my opinion every minute if it gets me more votes... or if the Kochs Brothers deposit a check in my account.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 114 votes
#1.14 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:45 PM EDT
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#1.15 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmike-2598123Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Trickle up poverty’
Is on the way.
If King Obama,
Gets his way.

Take from the rich,
Give to the poor.
We know for sure,
It doesn’t work any more.

Bring the rich down,
Is not the way.
For Obama and team,
Upon this day.

Lift the poor up,
One rung at a time.
With education and training,
It works just fine.

God blessed this great land,
Many moons ago.
But Obama’s plans,
Are not the way to go.

John D. 10/6/12 USN 71-77

Click like for R&R and have America survive !!

  • 34 votes
#1.16 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

Jeff,

I agree....The Simpson's episode hit it on the head. EVERYONE should watch your clip.

What's amazing is that Homer lives on a FOX channel!

  • 39 votes
#1.17 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDB AkronExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ben the update last night on early voting is Romny 50 Obama 45.

Reports are that Romney Rally Crowds are swelling and Obama's shrinking.

  • 32 votes
#1.18 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

For the first time, Romney ISN'T lying! Of COURSE he'll offer CHANGE ... he'll CHANGE his mind ... he'll CHANGE his position on any given subject ... and he'll let you keep a little bit of CHANGE out of your paycheck after you pay most of it to him and his 1%ers. All Romney DOES is CHANGE, saying whatever he thinks needs to be said to get him in the White House.

Romney doesn't want to be president of the United States ... he wants to be the CEO of the United States ... with congress & senate as his Board of Directors & the 1%ers as the stockholders. They'll take all the money, then he can screw all "THOSE" people that he doesn't care about ... you know ... the middle class, seniors, military, teachers, auto workers and working poor.

Romney for 1% of Americans ... Obama for ALL Americans.

Obama / Biden 2012

  • 109 votes
#1.19 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

Here is what Wrongme's promises are worth - zero.

"I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose, and I am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard."
– Televised debate while running for Massachusetts Governor in 2002.

Now, he only favors abortion in case of rape or incest - and his buddy Ryan, Akin and Mourdock don't even allow for those exceptions.

  • 88 votes
#1.20 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Rasmussen:

Wisconsin: Obama 49%, Romney 49%

Iowa: Romney 49%, Obama 48%

Colorado: Romney 50%, Obama 47%

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: Obama 48%, Romney 48%

Wisconsin Senate: Thompson (R) 48%, Baldwin (D) 48%

Montana Senate: Tester (D) 49%, Rehberg (R) 48%

48% Trust GOP More to Handle Economy, 44% Trust Democrats

Voters continue to regard the economy as the number one voting issue, and Republicans still have a slight edge in voter trust when it comes to the economy and six other major issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports.

New national telephone surveying finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters trust the Republicans more when it comes to the economy, while 44% have more faith in the Democrats.

Two national surveys of 1,000 Likely Voters each were conducted on October 21-22 and 23-24, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Fieldwork for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC.

  • 22 votes
#1.21 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMikeSoFloExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Undecided, View a 30sec. YouTube video.

Search for “AFF Promises”

The last 10sec. are the best. You can help Obama honor his own words.

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:53 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAm.VetsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Remove blood sucking illegal aliens the fumigate country.

  • 14 votes
#1.23 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

What is this "Real change" Robme keeps talking about?

Folks, any clues?

He's sure loosing his mind thinking we are gonna hand him the country so he could milk us all into oblivion and then run to the Cayman Isslands once it's all said and done....

I dont think so Mr. Shrewd businessman. This is the good ol USA, you aint firing no one anytime soon son...

Keep making profits somewhere else, not on the middle class' watch

  • 77 votes
#1.24 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

yeah, ben. i live in israel. its bizarre to me that jews would vote for romney. considering how racist mormons are and how much they hate jews, it would be like voting for hitler.

  • 70 votes
#1.25 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

Yeah, Romney 'promises' whatever he thinks you want to hear

  • 69 votes
#1.26 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

You mean

Romney's losing argument:

Obama 2012 - the only sane choice...

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  • 81 votes
#1.27 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:57 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Thanks DB for the update. Still good news!!!! What the dems also don't realize and won't know what hit them is the planned "get out the vote" strategy Romney's campaign has in place for election day.

@rockme -- Really??? LMAO. What a pathetic person you are. Invoking Godwin's Law and the race card in the same breath. Desperation doesn't look good on you.

  • 13 votes
#1.28 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

Unfortunately, in the polling industry Rasmussen is widely seen as having a flawed mechanism that inadvertently (?) tilts Republican by as many as 3% consistently. Some that compile "average" polling scores no longer will include Rasmussen polls because they think it is a flawed methodology.

If you look at the averages of many polls, not just at the poll you want to look at for comfort, you will find that most are now saying Obama is likely to exceed 300 electoral votes, and could go as high as the 320's or 330's.

  • 62 votes
#1.29 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

Haggisbingo - THANK YOU!!!!! I LOVE It!!!!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 55 votes
#1.30 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

Read the Bloomberg story on Romney's conflicting ads...the ad message is determined by what that state's abortion position is...in other words, he's telling different stories in different states, just like he has done to each audience throughout his six year run for this election.

  • 60 votes
#1.31 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

Even Newt Gingrich, you know the guy some of YOU supported till he was kicked to the curb, than you went to Rick Perry, until he was kicked to the curb, and you were left with Romney? Well Newt said Romney will lie and say anything to be elected.

I believe ole Newt has a point there, what's more interesting is the 47% Romney kool-aid drinkers who believe this man is for them......Anybody but Obama, huh, give YA'LL YOUR White House back.....LOL

Here where I live, in ignorant Mississippi, you can't even put up and Obama/Biden sign without some snaggle tooth red-neck knocking it down, or just outright destroying it, can't have an Obama/Biden bumper sticker without someone trying to destroy your property, yet when I walk my exercise route there are nothing but Romney/Ryan signs up all over, Romney/Ryan bumper stickers, anti-Obama bumper stickers on vehicles, untouched, please explain that? The hate is so venomous for President Obama that you can't even have a lawn sign for him, but Romney's signs are safe! In Mississippi, its racism, as it is mostly across America.

OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

  • 81 votes
#1.32 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:00 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCrystal-569996Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney will be the President of the United States, not like Obama who has been the president of the democrats. What a joke- Obama is a legend in his own mind and will soon be headed back to Chicago where he thrives on the culture of corruption. One and done!

  • 22 votes
#1.33 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

Romney said his experience in the private sector blah blah blah

So Willard, why are the CEO's of both Chrysler and GM calling you out for being a bald faced lair. Why did self made billionaire Michael Bloomberg, who knows a thing or two about business endorse your opponent? Maybe because you don't know jack about building something or job creating. All you know how to do is take over a company, strip the assets and leave it on the side of the road.

  • 75 votes
#1.34 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:02 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAm.VetsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

ROMNEY: All right, OBAMA... you called down the thunder, well now you've got it! You see that?
[pulls open his coat, revealing a badge]
ROMNEY: It says President of the United Statesl!
OBAMA: [terrified, pleading] Mitt, please, I...
ROMNEY: [referring to Biden, laying dead] Take a good look at him, Barach... 'cause that's how you're gonna end up!
[shoves Ike down roughly with his boot]
ROMNEY: The illegal aliens are finished, you understand? I see a tamale, I kill the man eatin' it!
[lets OBAMA up to run for his life]
ROMNEY: So run, you cur... RUN! Tell all the other curs the immigration law's comin'!
[shouts]
ROMNEY: You tell 'em I'M coming... and hell's coming with me, you hear?...
[louder]
Hell's coming with me!

    #1.35 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

    The voters need to dump the house GOP and really move this country forward.

    • 83 votes
    #1.36 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
    Comment author avatar4whatisrightExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Leave the meth alone. Makes one delusional!!!

    • 8 votes
    #1.37 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarDB AkronExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Let me clarify. The findings are that Democrats in most states still are voting in slightly larger numbers than republicans but democrats voting are down significantly from 2008. The exit polling shows that it is Romney is leading in most swing states and those that Obama is leading in are by a thin margin.

    • 6 votes
    #1.38 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

    "I will reach out to both sides of the aisle. I will bring people together, doing big things for the common good. I won’t just represent one party, I’ll represent one nation. I’ll try to show the best of America, at a time when only our best will do."

    But I'm NOT going to tell you how I'm going to pay for it, which tax deductions I'll do away with, or exactly what my plan is until you elect me. (he forgot that part)

    What a narcissistic PIG!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 67 votes
    #1.39 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

    The only change Mitt Romney would make as president is to rich peoples bottom line . . in favor of them of course. Mitt, you are shameful.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 69 votes
    #1.40 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

    HERE IS THE KIND OF CHANGE MYTH ROBME IS OFFERING YOU:

    Romney Says He Favors Abortion . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/10/romney-says-he-favors-abortion-in-cases-where-it-makes-people-vote-for-him.html#ixzz2AuibUcSA

    Now just fill in the blank:

    Romney Says He Favors letting women continue to have the 'right to choose' . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors prohibiting birth control . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors turning Medicare into a voucher system . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors cutting Social Security . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors bombing Iran . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors putting boots on the ground in Syria . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors attacking Russia . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him

    Romney Says He Favors cutting FEMA . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors keeping FEMA . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him

    Romney Says He Favors firing teachers & policemen . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors cutting taxes for the 1% . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors raising taxes on middle class families . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him

    Romney Says He Favors shipping jobs overseas . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors letting Detroit go bankrupt . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    Romney Says He Favors saving the auto industry . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him

    Romney Says He Favors dismissing 47% of Americans . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    .

    pick an issue and fill in the blank! at anytime during the past 8 years, while Myth Robme has been running for o9ffice, he has been for . . . and against . . . EVERY. SINGLE. ISSUE.

    .

    Romney Says He Favors ____— . . . in Cases Where It Makes People Vote for Him.

    .

    O & JOE - 4 MORE . . . .BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY STAND FOR, FOR SURE! :-)

    • 76 votes
    #1.41 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

    If the Republicans care so much about compromise and working together then why has their agenda from Day 1 of Obama's presidency been to make him a one term president? Because the Republicans are lying hypocrite scum!

    • 78 votes
    #1.42 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    WHAT Change? Why do we need change?? Things are going just fine from my point of view!!! More people back to work means MORE PEOPLE TO TAX FOR ME!!!!

    I was watching that Hungarian PETERFFY's Ad this week and I disagree with him just like Mr Romney. When I was in Hungary near the end of my military service right after WWII they LOOKED WEALTHY. NICE BUILDINGS, SHOPS ETC. WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT ALL THEN!!!!!!

    Then we wouldn't be in the situation we are in going broke here in the U.S. with Huge Deficits. We need to TAX OUR PEOPLE MORE and if that doesn't work maybe we can take another look at Hungary and those other formerly Socialist countries . . We could buy parts of them cheap and then resell them for More Money!

    OUR SOCIALIST COUNTRIES WORKING TOGETHER . . . YOU PAYING FOR ME!!! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

    • 13 votes
    #1.43 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    not like Obama who has been the president of the democrats.

    Or like the republican congress who has been a force for republicans and the 1%ers!!!!

    Open your other eye, that way you MIGHT see the complete picture, not just the one Romney is sticking in front your one eye.

    OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

    • 60 votes
    #1.44 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarBen-636050Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    @rightwingrick -- Sorry but Rasmussen has an incredible correct track record for many, many elections, not just the last one. Gotta believe Scott.

    @moshuluu -- Did you believe all those bad things Joe and Hillary said about Hussein during their primary??

    • 9 votes
    #1.45 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

    For once Romney has uttered the truth ... he has changed positions on so many major issues on a regular basis ... and would for sure offer more change (of positions) if elected ...

    And for you independent women ... wow ... would he offer you a change!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 46 votes
    #1.46 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:09 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarZMan2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Obama promised us "Change" in 2008. Only, no one knew he was talking about what he was going to leave in your pockets, and nothing more.

    When Romney talks of Change, he's talking about REAL change, REAL leadership, and a REAL economic recovery.

    I just looked at the headlines on MSN a few minutes ago, and here's what it says;

    Tempers flare, death toll rises after Sandy

    THAT is what the "status quo" will get you this time around. An incompetent "President" for whom the media "covers up."

    Come on main stream media. Stop showing the pictures of Obama trying to french-kiss Doug Christie, and show us the lack of response from FEMA in Manhattan, Staten Island, Long Island and Connecticut.

    People are suffering, just as they did with Katrina.

    But, the main stream media is covering up for Obama.

    Is THIS what we want for another four (4) years?

    HELL NO IT AINT!

    DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

    • 18 votes
    #1.47 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

    Bah. America is not so stupid as to fall for that line again so soon.

    Next he will be offering hope along with that change.

    • 19 votes
    #1.48 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

    Don't you just love it when people like DB Akron cite "reports" as evidence? "Reports'" is a synonym for FOX talking points or Limbaugh exaggerations.

    DB is a boiler room poster and simply has to be Ignored.

    • 49 votes
    #1.49 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

    That's CHRIS Christie, by the way.....

    • 4 votes
    #1.50 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

    Another week, another new flip flop campaign strategy. The welfare ads didn't work, let's try jobs; well, the jobs didn't work because President Obama has had 32 straight months of private sector job growth. Let's try telling voters Jeep is moving their jobs to China, or better yet--never mind both Chrysler and GM called Romney a liar. So the R/R team said, let's co-opt the Obama slogan since we aren't smart enough to think up one of our own.

    Mitt, Would that be the same "change" back to Reagan/Bush & Bush policies of trickle down to the peasants while adding trillions to the deficit and debt? How would anyone know what Mitt means by "change" because he hasn't had the same position or policy for more than a few days at a time, maybe even a few hours. The only "change" Mitt offers is the pennies he'll give the 99% while the dollars go to his 1% friends and himself.

    • 57 votes
    #1.51 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

    Ben-636050

    Did you believe all those bad things Joe and Hillary said about Hussein during their primary??

    I consider McCain unstable, and paranoid, he didn't get my vote, I consider Romney a flat out liar, and people like you who will do anything to get President Obama out of office, racist!

    OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

    • 47 votes
    #1.52 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

    Why in the world would we reward a party that has done nothing but stand in the way of this country's progress for the last 4 years for their own political gain?

    • 50 votes
    #1.53 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

    HandsOffMyMedicare!!

    .............Ahh... another RWNJ TROLL

    Bush/Romney Not Now/Never Again

    • 37 votes
    #1.54 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarGUESS HE CAN'TExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The things liberals write is so off. Most independent voters see a President who hasn't held up his end and a leader in Mitt Romney that has worked with the other side of the aisle.

    Obama doesn't know how to negotiate and even his own party leaders refer to his way of leading as lecturing.

    Vote in a Leader!!

    Romney/Ryan 2012

    • 13 votes
    #1.55 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

    Roger-785733

    The only change Mitt Romney would make as president is to rich peoples bottom line . . in favor of them of course. Mitt, you are shameful.

    In case you haven't noticed, the rich have been getting richer for decades, and the the real incomes (inflation adjusted) of the middle class have been declining for decades. Trying to pin something like that on one political party is extremely ignorant. They both are at fault. The compounded inflation rate (the reason for the decline in real incomes) is over 2000% since the early 1900's, with most of that coming since the 1970's when we completely abandoned the gold standard. You won't hear Romney or Obama say anything to disparage the Fed though.

    • 6 votes
    #1.56 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

    Am.Vets-ROMNEY: The illegal aliens are finished, you understand? I see a tamale, I kill the man eatin' it!

    So R-money wants to make mexican food illegal? What about tex-mex food, or taco bell (imitation mex food)? What about homemade tortillas? Would it be illegal for me to have chili powder in my home? Because I just couldn't make my family's favorite chili without chili powder...

    • 26 votes
    #1.57 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

    The economy is improving, the stock market is doing great, we are no longer facing complete economical collapse...and Mitt offers change. Change to what exactly? The road to another banking and Wall street bailout? No thanks. I don't have the money left to support their lavish lifestyle.

    • 47 votes
    #1.58 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

    President Romney?

    Welcome to the Corporate States of America.

    Brought to you by..... Citizens United.

    And the GOP-appointed members of the Supreme Court.

    Funding provided by.... ALEC and its supporting member corporations.

    Additional support provided by our GOP friends in Congress. "Working every day to further the goals of the corporations who pay them."

    • 44 votes
    #1.59 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

    Change...........

    from a guy who has not had a job in how many years.

    Outdated resume.

    And he is promising to do a Sh*T load of stuff on Day One.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 43 votes
    #1.60 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

    I just looked at the headlines on MSN a few minutes ago, and here's what it says;

    Tempers flare, death toll rises after Sandy

    THAT is what the "status quo" will get you this time around.

    Really? So the storm is all President Obama's fault?

    Must be because of those messianic superpowers that you all claim that his supporters are supposed to believe that he has.

    • 30 votes
    #1.61 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

    DB Akron

    "Ben the update last night on early voting is Romny 50 Obama 45."

    Is that another fact-free "fact" from Fox or a dream you had?

    "Reports are that Romney Rally Crowds are swelling and Obama's shrinking."

    Again, any proof?

    That's what I though.

    Bill Clinton came to Fargo in solidly Red state North Dakota where I live 3 days ago for a rally for Senate candidate Heidi Heitkamp. It was a last minute decision because of hurricane Sandy so no one knew about it until the morning of the event. There wasn't time to get a single ad in any paper or on the radio or television.

    The result?

    Overflowing crowd in the Fargo civic center with hundreds turned away because there just wasn't room for everyone.

    • 46 votes
    #1.62 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

    Best argument there is for not going back to the policies of the GOP:

    Private Sector Payroll Employment

    This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January

    Are we really going to vote for that again? Romney's tax plan was written by the same guy that wrote Bush's.

    Damn right I'm happy about the last 4 years. The real question is, do you want 4 more like the last 4? Or 4 like the 8 before Obama?

    The pace of creation of jobs in the private sector during the current administration is now greater than the pace in either of President George W. Bush’s terms in office.

    • 39 votes
    #1.63 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

    Dick Morris was a Guru when he worked for the Clinton administration, and now that he doesn't liberals don't believe a word he says. But you cannot deny his accuracy in predicting election outcomes, and he claims Romney will win going away. Morris claims Romney will pull in over 300 electoral votes, and win the popular vote by 3-5 points. Funny how none of the mainstream polling has Obama over 50%, which is significant because if he loses by 3-5 points that will fall within the margin of error. In the end all the mainstream polling that gets it wrong will blame voter turnout, which if absentee voting to date has proven anything, it has shown that enthusiasm is down. That will hurt Obama and not Romney, those that want a change are going to vote. Lets hope Morris has it right.

    • 13 votes
    #1.64 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

    "Plus ca change, Plus c'est la meme chose"

    The more things change, the more they stay the same...

    NP

    • 1 vote
    #1.65 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

    Hartvig: If the had held that event at the DOME, they would have filled it too. Amazing site, all those people turning out.

    • 21 votes
    #1.66 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

    HEY MITT...How's that Hope and CHANGE working for you now?...

    Given the transparent ineptitude of the Romney campaign, change seems an unlikely prognosis. Things are so bad that Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal columnist and conservative Queen of Reasonableness, freaked out and called for a campaign intervention, then decided to issue a correction days later: “This week I called [the Romney campaign] incompetent, but only because I was being polite. I really meant ‘rolling calamity.’” Rush Limbaugh has gone into full-on panic mode (his only other mode is “pharmaceutically indisposed”): “If Obama wins,” he cries, “It’s the end of the Republican Party. There’s going to be a third party that’s going to be orientated towards conservatism—or Rand Paul thinks libertarianism.” Liberals smell blood. “GOP Civil War Is Coming,” the Daily Beast’s Bob Shrum says, looking forward to a series of defeats for “the party of angry white men.”

    • 27 votes
    #1.67 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

    Ben-636050 ... don't you have enough sense to realize that the photo that you have plays to your ignorant white male base ... but does nothing for your cause ...

    Keep it up for a few more days ... please!!!!

    • 29 votes
    #1.68 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

    Thank's, but no thank's

    You can keep your change Mr Romney!

    I see this kind of personalities( LIKE ROMNEY, OR THE WAL-MARTS ) every single day in my line of business, and frankly I'm sick and tired of arguing with young, inexperienced, brain washed spoiled brats fresh out of college in the logistical and transportation sector, who cannot even ship a pallet of cashews across the street, over the phone every single day, as to why our company should lower our services rates, lanes satellite tracking system, SAFER DOT compliance ratings, and ever increasing energy prices.

    This personalities feel that they are entitled to our services( Transportation, logistics, warehousing, distribution, pharma, Hospitals, labor etc, etc) for pennies on the dollar, while they charge us back outrageous prices for food, energy, medical and pharmacy bills.

    Don't believe it?

    Take a look at your grocery bill, your gasoline bill, your power bill, etc etc.

    Absolutely everything has gone up, up-to 400% in the last 10 yrs, but our salaries and compensations.

    And Romney is supposed to reverse all that?

    What a joke!

    No one described monopoly and price control in America better than Newt Gingrich, when He ran against Romney: Vulture Capitalism, plain and simple!

    Once again, you can keep your change Mr Romney!

    The American economy has been hijacked to Vulture capitalists for the last 30 yrs.

    Can anyone see how important is the White House is for Wall Street in 2012, or do you still need a better explanation?

    • 30 votes
    #1.69 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

    Rick the historic problem with polling in general is turnout, what motivates an individual to actually go out and vote, Has absolutely nothing to do with saying you'll vote for a candidate, which is polling.

    Morris often bases his assumptions on total voters and not likely voters, which in turn I think works against his parties interest. By saying Romney will win hands down some supporters might think its OK to not vote, as if the candidate doesn't need it. The likely Voters dynamic is ever changing and is almost impossible to predict.

    • 3 votes
    #1.70 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

    ROFLMAO, MYTH all chameleons change!!!!!! They also give off a nasty gas.

    4 more 4 44

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 31 votes
    #1.71 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

    RE: RASMUSSEN POLLING:

    "Rasmussen: The GOP's cure for the common poll"

    Called "biased and inaccurate - does not poll cell-phone users,etc:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/17/rasmussen-the-gops-cure-for-the-common-poll/

    "While its track record was pretty good in the middle of last decade (2004 and 2006) and average in 2008, after the 2010 election the New York Times' Nate Silver labeled Rasmussen "biased and inaccurate." Silver calculated that Rasmussen missed the final margin of the races it polled in the 2010 midterms by an average of 5.8 percentage points."

    .

    'Rasmussen polls were biased and inaccurate'
    http://uppitywis.org/blogarticle/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate

    .

    "Fair and Balanced? Rasmussen Found Biased and Inaccurate"

    http://open.salon.com/blog/steven_j_gulitti/2010/11/08/fair_and_balanced_rasmussen_found_biased_and_inaccurate

    .

    "Gallup and Rasmussen: the polling outliers that lean Republican"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/25/gallup-rasmussen-polling-outliers-lean-republican

    .

    NATE SILVER'S 538 BLOG - MOST. ACCURATE. POLLING. DATA. EVER. Because it's not "a poll" - it's an aggregate of ALL the polls!

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

    .

    VOTE O & JOE! because they don't flip-flop . . . we KNOW what they stand for! :-)

    • 31 votes
    #1.72 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years
    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January

    Are we really going to vote for that again? Romney's tax plan was written by the same guy that wrote Bush's.

    How else will Willard fulfill his promise to lower gas prices?

    • 28 votes
    #1.73 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

    Mitt Romney: "I promise change...

    ...In my position on every issue"

    • 35 votes
    #1.74 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

    He knows very well about change, he changes on every issue, so yes he is experienced with change, NOT the kind of change we need!

    • 24 votes
    #1.75 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

    Not having to hear one more bull@!$%# lie drop out of his smug, pasty-faced arrogant 1% mouth will be all the change I need.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 31 votes
    #1.76 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

    Keep your change mitt - I'm still not buying what you are selling.

    • 29 votes
    #1.77 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

    Thanks KJNC,

    People like Ben are being fed by Loud Mouths on Fox News. Ben believes everything Sean Hannity and his likes says.

    Rick is so stupid, he believes Dick Morris. Really Dick Morris. Dick Morris said Mccain was going to Win FL by a wide margin. Dick Morris told Sean Hannity that PA was going for Mccain. Yeah Dick Morris really knows how people going to Vote. Freakin Idiot..

    • 22 votes
    #1.78 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

    As any American who does laundry knows, tea stains are the worst. Unfortunately for you, Tea Party, is that the stains you and your party have placed upon us will remain in the American psyche for decades to come.

    And if we are so very fortunate on Tuesday, November 6th, 2012, then I pray good riddance to you as well, Tea Party.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 25 votes
    #1.79 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

    Willard's change without hope? No thanks, you can keep the change. I'll vote for President Obama so I can keep the medicare I've paid for my entire working life - Willard can stick his stinking voucher where the sun don't shine.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 22 votes
    #1.80 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

    Romney's closing argument: 'I promise change'

    what change is Romney promising? That he will stop lying, flip flopping or having multi-positions?

    • 21 votes
    #1.82 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

    CantAffordNoMore

    We need the economy fixed people with jobs! Romney will do this with all Americans no matter party affiliation or what state elected them into house or senate.

    **********************************************

    IGNORANT FRIGGEN SHEEPLE

    ROMNEY DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT "WORK ACROSS THE ISLE"!!!!!

    Romney vetoed, 800 BILLS THE DEM CONTROLLED MA LEGISLATURE PASSED

    OVER 700 OF THEM WERE OVERRODE BECAUSE OF THE DEM SUPER MAJORITY

    How in the EFF can you say Romney works with all parties GIVEN THOSE FACTS?????

    you CANT

    • 19 votes
    #1.83 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

    moshuluu

    I consider McCain unstable, and paranoid

    add bitter to your list. McCain went from a Senator with credibility to a bitter, old man.

    • 19 votes
    #1.84 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

    I think the Mitt Robmey supporters know he's lying through his teeth BUT THEY DON"T CARE because they are generally:

    SCARED,RACIST,IGNORANT,OLD,WHITE FOLKS who just DO NOT want to see a black man in the oval office unless he's with the cleaning company.....

    • 24 votes
    #1.85 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

    I can say "I Promise Change" too, but you probably wouldn't like what I would do?

    He has yet to let me know exactly how he would propose to do all this changing aside from a snip, snip here and a snip, snip there>>>>TRUST ME I AM FROM KOLOB AND I AM HERE TO SAVE YOU!

    • 13 votes
    #1.86 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

    @Haggisbingo . . . Why you always talking' bout my President's race?? You RACIST J**K!!!

    You are a closet Racist just like that other fearmongering politician who said . . "NOONE GONNA PUT YOU BACK IN CHAINS"!!!

    4 MORE YEARS . . . KEEP THE DREAM (and ME) ALIVE . . YOU PAYING FOR ME!!!!.

    • 4 votes
    #1.87 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

    Harry Reid won't work with Romney if elected. Okay, I'm confused. Republicans accused of not working with Obama and the Democrats hammered them on it. Sen. Reid, WHAT? So if it's your guy, you'll work for the people, but if not, it's four more years of nothing getting done and the American people suffering the consequences of the inept congress to stop acting like grade school children! No wonder ratings for congress are low. We need term limits.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/nov/2/reid-says-he-cant-work-romney/

    • 7 votes
    #1.88 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

    Remove blood sucking illegal aliens the fumigate country.

    I agree. You know the Native Americans have been saying this for THE longest time!

    • 15 votes
    #1.89 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

    ((( PROMISE ))) Mitt Romney "I Bet You" Latter-Days

    We investors KNOW, that a new storm brewing, could make long gasoline lines, even worse. Real Change, would be the 'Road to Natural Gas' Second Edition. Americans an alternative to gasoline, like in the form of home fueling NGV.

    Clean Energy Releases Second Edition of "Road to Natural Gas"

    GLOBAL WARMING

    Mitt Romney advocates more coal, and gasoline. More Global Warming; that would be Change For The Worse...

    'Romney's Mormon Background May Shape His Anti-FEMA Stance' MOTHER JONES

    'Even in Utah, where Mormons have amply demonstrated their ability to respond to a crisis, the state has recognized that it can't rely solely on volunteer efforts to protect its residents. The current governor, Gary Herbert, a Republican, has requested federal disaster aid for several state crises.' Stephanie Mencimer, Reporting...

    Hurricane Sandy, The October Surprise, ushered in the Latter-Days of Mitt Romney's presidential BET.

    • 12 votes
    #1.90 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

    Romney's version of change is:

    Reverting back to the economic policies of GWB/Cheney
    Reverting back to the foreign policies of GWB/Cheney
    Changing his stance on FEMA
    Changing his stance on abortion
    Changing his stance on contraception
    Changing his stance on being a "severely conservative" candidate.

    Money/Wealth siphoned from the from the the middle and working classes to the TOP 1% is the ONLY change one can expect from Willard Mitt Romney.

    Mitt is a liar, tax-cheat and a pawn for Norquist, Koch brothers, neocons and their ilk.

    • 19 votes
    #1.91 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

    The numbers I see here following posts are wonderfully heartening--thanks to everyone here posting truth for our President Obama! The rest show who they are, 'nuff said.

    In the end, argue as you will over polls, it's not over 'til it's over.

    Obama/Biden and a Democratic House & Senate--moving forward for all

    • 20 votes
    #1.92 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

    The voters need to dump the house GOP and really move this country forward. - G. Bud

    The House is the only reason anything get done in Washington, unless you count Sen Reid stuffing legislation in his pocket as getting stuff done.

    • 1 vote
    #1.93 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

    GOP supporter and just voted for Obama and Tester. The reason was Romney's pandering for change. At least I know Obama spends lottin.

    • 8 votes
    #1.94 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

    Obama has been a failure on every level except empty rhetoric production, class warfare and trivial talk show participation. Its time for financially literate adults who can function in a two party system instead of some thin skinned narcissist Robin Hood idealogue. See Peggy Noonan's WSJ article today, scathing indictment of the Obama presidency.

    Romney Ryan 2012

    • 4 votes
    #1.95 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

    Promising is easy. Every politician is an expert at that.

    • 5 votes
    #1.96 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

    Does this mean Romney is about to sit down and shut up? Gwaddamn, I sure hope so. I've never been so tired of hearing the most outrageous lies, I mean lies about former lies, and lies about lies He forgot to yet tell. Romney is in critical need of a mental overhaul and several tongue massages. Hope the nutty sum-bitch is done with politics. The whole republican party needs to be soaked in salt and vinegar for a year or two, then returned to the manure pile from which it was molded.

    • 14 votes
    #1.97 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

    Romney, "Real Change" (2012)

    Obama, "Change" (2008)

    Romney, "I will bring people together. I won't just represent one party. I'll represent the nation." (2012)

    Obama, "We're not the red states & the blue states. We are the United States." (2008)

    Follow the leader....follow the leader......follow the leader.....follow the leader.

    Obama/ Biden 2012

    • 16 votes
    #1.98 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

    Never forget that when OBAMA first confronted Hugo Chavez in Latin America he cowered and sold the American people out as just another country in a world full of countries.

    Hillary Clinton, the Whore of Babylon said "The AMERICAN PEOPLE are to blame for all the violence in Mexico.

    Just how are the AMERICAN PEOPLE responsible for Mexicans QUADRUPLING their population in the last 50 years?

    • 3 votes
    #1.99 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

    "Mitt Romney's fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his 'severely conservative' agenda is laughable," Mr. Reid said in a statement on Friday, trying to puncture Mr. Romney's closing election argument that he'll be able to deliver on the bipartisanship President Obama promised in 2008 but has struggled to live up to."

    I am SICK AND TIRED of our "representatives" (AKA professional politicians) outright telling us that they are incapable of working together on issues that are breaking the back of the US. Harry Reid is a turd in an expensive suit. He's previously told us that it was unnecessary/pointless to attempt to formulate and pass a national budget (one of the mandates of Congress- aka his job), which he has held his word for over 3 years! He's thrown around accusations yet provided no evidence to his claims. If he wasn't a politician (in the real world) he'd be taken to court for slander and held to his words, but since he's a politician he gets away with slewing crap, doing crap, and taking it all the way to the bank.

    Look folks, I'm waaaay beyond political parties (I have very strong opinions about what is right and reasonable to do with our nation, but I don't care what party you are affiliated with if you are trying to do the right thing). I despise career politicians and political posturing BS. If we don't get our acts together (now) then this country will tank. Feel free to call me a fatilist, but I don't see how our country survives when we outspend our GDP, are selling bonds to ourselves to float our debt, and printing our way out of debt. A recent report noted that we spent over $60,000 on welfare programs per household receiving them! Am I a petty 1%er- no, I'm saying that there are plenty of families whom don't make $60,000 per year, yet our politicians are creating programs that are spending significantly more on those whom aren't working. So you make $50,000/yr and your next door neighbor gets more by not working- that's wrong! We are setting up ourselves for a dramatic crash so we've got to wake up, grow up, and get this country back together. We are not going to get that done if our politicians keep wetting their diapers and crying about the other guy. Demand more of your representatives!

    • 1 vote
    #1.100 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

    I am tired of having to be mad at everyone. When I meet someone, I have to ask them, "Am I suppose to be mad with you? Are you male or female, young or middle age or old, white or black or latino or other, wealthy or rich or poor, healthy or not, how many children, An 'A' student or a waste of time, what is your credit score, do you walk or do you waste gas when going to a destination, do you refuse 16 oz. drinks, do you whisper in your dreams that you are a US citizen,' ... the list goes on forever.!

    I am ready for a new POTUS! Vote ROMNEY!

    • 3 votes
    #1.101 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:07 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarAm.VetsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    llegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Throw then some pesos and they work so hard.

    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    I don’t even ask if they got green card.

    They’re going to pave up my driveway this Christmas.
    They’re going to clean all my cars this Christmas.
    They’re going to shovel all the snow this Christmas.
    Those illegals in my yard.

    They’re going to dig me a pool this Christmas.
    They’re going to landscape my law this Christmas.
    They’re going to cook me up some tacos this Christmas.
    Those illegals in my yard.

    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Sixteen arrive in a stolen car.

    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    When they’re not working, they sit at the bar.

    They’re going to drink some cervezas this Christmas.
    They’re going to shoot some tequila this Christmas.
    They’re going to get DUIs this Christmas.
    Those illegals in my yard.

    They’re getting free organ transplants this Christmas.
    They’re going to have anchor babies this Christmas.
    They’re going to scream “sí, se puede” this Christmas.
    Those illegals in my yard.

    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    One at a time run past those border guards.

    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Illegals in my yard.
    Hugo Chavez sends his kind regards.

    They’re going to tackle Pat Buchanan this Christmas.
    They’re going to chase down Lou Dobbs this Christmas.
    They’re going to join up with La Raza this Christmas.
    Those illegals in my yard.

    They’re going to spread bubonic plague this Christmas.
    They’re going to bring me lots of bed bugs this Christmas.
    They’re going to pass tuberculosis this Christmas.”
    Those illegals in my yard.

    • 4 votes
    #1.102 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

    moshuluu wrote:

    Here where I live, in ignorant Mississippi, you can't even put up and Obama/Biden sign without some snaggle tooth red-neck knocking it down, or just outright destroying it, can't have an Obama/Biden bumper sticker without someone trying to destroy your property, yet when I walk my exercise route there are nothing but Romney/Ryan signs up all over, Romney/Ryan bumper stickers, anti-Obama bumper stickers on vehicles, untouched, please explain that? The hate is so venomous for President Obama that you can't even have a lawn sign for him, but Romney's signs are safe!

    Moshuluu, it is the same where I live – in a rural Colorado county that is 90% Republican. It is said that I cannot put an Obama sign in my yard for fear of bricks being thrown in one of my windows, or an Obama bumper sticker on my car for fear of my car being keyed or the windows broken out. Not long ago, an Obama campaign office in Denver was attacked with gunshots when there were people inside. Why are Republicans so hateful? Our country is changing with the times and the Republicans don’t want any part of it. I look at the make-up of people in the Romney rallies on television, and the crowd is 98% white (and I am a white female myself). The Republicans on this vine and at Romney’s rallies hate the fact that the U.S. has a black President and they spew lies and hate. They never used to be that way. Today’s Republicans need to get with the program and change with the times instead of living in America’s bigoted past.

    • 14 votes
    #1.103 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

    I don't see how our country survives when we outspend our GDP, are selling bonds to ourselves to float our debt, and printing our way out of debt. A recent report noted that we spent over $60,000 on welfare programs per household receiving them!

    You are woefully misinformed, but then, most Americans are. I blame Fox and the corruption of money in politics. (a) We are not spending more than our GDP; our deficit is $1 trillion, the GDP is $15 trillion (greater than at any time in history, by the way. Even our per capita GDP is greater than at any time in history. The only reason times feel bad is that all the money is in the hands of only a few)

    (b) All of federal welfare spending (Temporary Assistance to Needy Families) is about $22b, or about 12 days of running the Pentagon. The average works out to about $14,000 per year if you stay on welfare for a year.

    (c) the vast majority of your tax dollars goes to wealthy people, like Jack Welch and the Koch Brothers and Mitt Romney himself. For example, all income taxes total $900b. Interest paid to those who own treasury bonds is $250b, or over 25 cents of every tax dollar goes right into the pocket of a rich guy

    (d) the wealthy billionaires who bankroll Romney do it to get more of our tax money, not less. Does anyone really think tax cuts and pentagon spending hikes will lower the deficit? Romney will do the same thing Bush did - which is greatly enlarge deficit spending for the benefit of the wealthy few at the top.

    • 17 votes
    #1.104 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

    noncoms... you lost the RWNJs when you used facts. They hate facts. Example of how the GOP operates when their ideology is proven false:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/business/questions-raised-on-withdrawal-of-congressional-research-services-report-on-tax-rates.html

    • 5 votes
    #1.105 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

    The problem is Romney doesn't stand for ANYTHING.

    • 13 votes
    #1.106 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

    "He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." ~George Orwell, 1984

    "Change" from Romney? Hahaha just like "Change" from Obama.....Change for the WORSE!

    What is REALLY insane is that ANYONE would actually believe this "Nonsense"!

    Sadly some of US will believe in anything Spewed from a Demo-Republo-Rat as if it meant something Real!

    Wall Street Oligarchs are Real....Romney and Obama are NOT!

    Obomney / Byan 2012......$1,000,000,000 Spent to maintain Wall Street Control....Nothing for US but Endless Corporate "Not Wars" for their Fun & Profit....Guaranteed!

    Don't believe? Watch PBS and learn....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

    Anyone who believes Romney (or Obama) stands for change should be ashamed of themselves!

    "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." ~George Orwell, 1984

      #1.107 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

      Trickle down economics does not work. It has severely damaged the healthy income distribution that helps our economy grow. Romney is a trickle down true believer. His solutions always seem to revolve around what the rich can do for us. He is mistaken.

      Top 1% get 24% of our nation's annual income ( up from 10% in 1980). The other 99% has shared a 15% reduction in their share of the nation's income. The rich sit on their vast sums of money waiting for consumer sales to rise before investing in the growth of their businesses. This imbalance was also present before the Great Depression.

      This is no coincidence, but rather a cause of financial system failure. Too much investment money compared to consumer spending results in too much production and sales capacity and too little demand for goods and services and results in recession.

      Too much investment money leads to investment in more risky markets such as mortgage securities. It leads to market bubbles. When the bubble bursts and the lenders end up with huge bad debt, you have a financial crisis as well.

      Too much investment money was a huge underlying cause of our recent financial collapse. Consumer debt was fueled by the increase of the wealth of the wealthiest among us. They paid us less and loaned us more. It's really that simple. Fairness in income distribution helps our economy grow at a steady pace. Production capacity expands as sales increase. Worker incomes fuel sales growth. Investment money flows into expanding business that experiences higher sales. And the cycle repeats itself. This is what makes an economy grow.

      Romney doesn't understand economic growth. He only understands how to make money from an expanding economy, not how to expand it.

      Obama understands economic growth. It really is from the middle out.

      OBAMA 2012

      • 13 votes
      #1.108 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

      Romney will change everything back to the way Bush set it up. He hired ex-Bush advisors to make it happen. That is change America cannot afford.

      Romney/Ryan, an avoidable disaster.

      • 9 votes
      #1.109 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

      @ Ben-636050 post 1.2

      Israeli's should not be voting in our elections! We have a problem in this country with people that don't live here being able to vote. We are allowing people to come here and have babies just so those babies can be Americans. After the birth of such babies they are taken back to their native country and raised. When those children grow up their children are automatically made American Citizens because one of their parents is American and there starts a chain of American Citizens that never live in America, each able to vote in our political system. Some one tell me if I'm wrong. Chinese women are doing just this along with women from all over the world, it a fact! It may not happen in this election although it could that people that don't live here decide who our President is. This is wrong! We need to stop it now before it gets our children killed in someone else's war!

      • 2 votes
      #1.110 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

      Teacher to Barack, "Cover up your test."

      Teacher to Mitt, "Keep your eyes on your own paper. I'm going to tell you only one more time. Stop using your eraser and changing your answers."

      Obama/ Biden 2012

      • 9 votes
      #1.111 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

      Romney telling us that he is different from Obama is like "the pot calling the kettle black." Folks, the pot and kettle parties are not working! Time for a "Real Change" in this country. Demand politicians that are beholden to you, not to their party. Take this country back to what our forefathers fought the revolution for. Outlaw parties and outlaw the lobbyists that feed them billions of dollars every year. Don't vent your rage on each other...vent it on the pots and kettles that play you like a drum.

      • 4 votes
      #1.112 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

      LMAO. What a pathetic person you are.

      Leave the meth alone. Makes one delusional!!!

      Ben-636050,4whatisright, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

      Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

      • 6 votes
      #1.113 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

      Shaak,

      In America, millionaires control 56% of the total wealth. 5.1 million people. In most of the rest of the G20 millionaires control about 20-25% of the wealth.

      • 9 votes
      #1.114 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

      I just looked at the headlines on MSN a few minutes ago, and here's what it says;

      Tempers flare, death toll rises after Sandy

      THAT is what the "status quo" will get you this time around. An incompetent "President" for whom the media "covers up."

      Tempers are flaring because the power is out. And, that's not the President's fault. The workers of my local utility are putting in 16 hr shifts. They're working as fast as they can (in many cases, they don't have power at home, either). Utilities have imported thousands of workers from other states (no easy task considering how many states were hit). What more do you think that Obama and FEMA can do about the situation? You don't bring in the National Guard to work on power lines!

      Of course, if Romney is elected, we won't have to worry about FEMA. He wants to send its money to states and private companies. Surely, as a businessman, he realizes that it is more efficient to have one central agency with massive resources than asking each state to try to duplicate the same capabilities, especially since, in any given year, relatively few states will need them.

      • 7 votes
      #1.115 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

      Oh, I just love Biden. He is speaking in Ohio but thinks he is in Florida. He is in Florida but thinks he is in Ohio. He thinks we are fighting in Iran instead of Afghanistan. This senile 70 year old is a heart beat from the presidency. Can we afford the risk?

      • 3 votes
      #1.116 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

      The President's efforts to solve our unemployment problem and to control the deficit have not worked. The President's economic plan for the next four years is devoid of detail and budget and is mathematically impossible.

      The Obama administration document on the stimulus stated what the stimulus was designed to do. According to that document if the stimulus were passed unemployment would not go above 8%. That did not happen. The Obama administration created and used this document to sell the stimulus spending bill as the solution to the nations unemployment problems. The stimulus did not solve our unemployment problem. According to that official administration document if the stimulus did its job as it was designed then unemployment should now be well below 6%. Furthermore, if the stimulus bill had done its job then the President would not have to propose a second stimulus. The numbers in that document were not presented as speculation, they were presented as specification. This official Obama administration document said what the stimulus was going to do. Clearly what the Obama administration said would happen did not happen.

      To me, reelecting the President means 4 more years of the same just hoping that things change. The President's new program to fix the the economy is just more of his same on going program to fix the economy. My biggest concern is all of the debt that has been building up. I estimate that an additional 5 trillion dollars of debt will end up costing the tax payers 50 trillion dollars to repay in 180 years. I agree with the President when he stated:

      And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

      Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

      Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

      ~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006

      • 4 votes
      #1.117 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

      ahhh mittens.. change and HOPE? lol.. okj buddy. you couldnt even make your OWN slogan?

      mittens has been on both sides of every issue and then some. i sure cant wait to see his smug face the day after he loses and realizes he spent ANOTHER 100 million of his own money to lose! lol

      • 12 votes
      #1.118 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

      Smlfry, Moshuluu,

      The answer to where the right wing hate comes from may be as simple as Fox news and right wing radio. Clear Channel owns more than 900 radio stations across the country. Bush 43 changed the rules so they could have many more stations in a single market than previously allowed. Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, and Sean Hanity present slightly different flavors of hatred and racism that Clear Channel pushes to indoctrinate the succeptable portion of the population. Clear channel is owned by...wait for it....Bain Capital, the company from which Mitt Romney gets millions every year. He used to be the boss.

      Kinda stinks don't it. But wait, there's more.

      Former Bain employees formed a new company HID. They, with Mitt's son Tagg, bought Hart intercivic, the voting machine company with their easily hackable machines in Ohio and Colorado. (other states too, they are the third largest.) For that matter, Partizan Republicans control all five electronic voting machine companies. These machines have been shown to be easily manipulated to change the vote count. They should be banned.

      • 6 votes
      #1.119 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

      As a middle class American who works in the private sector, I DO NOT want my taxes going up and my mortgage deduction disappearing, just so Romney can pay 0.82% in taxes.

      I do not believe in redistributing my wealth up to people who have more wealth.

      That is why I will vote for Obama.

      • 7 votes
      #1.120 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

      Barry NJ

      Sometimes people in desperate situations get angry. That they were angry yesterday surprised me.

      With millions in trouble in New Jersey, New York area, some will have to wait a little while for help to arrive. As I recall, we were all told that a minimum of a 3 day supply of necessities such as water and food should be kept on hand for emergency use, to allow time for help to arrive. The storm hit on Monday night, Tuesday morning and three days later, its Thursday night, Friday morning. All the advice from experts on storm disaster recovery said count on 3 days for help to arrive. Friday would be the day outside help should arrive and it did. This is no failure. This is what was considered the optimum for storm relief.

      That some received help on day 1 and day 2 and day 3 and day 4 illustrates that relief efforts were ongoing, but the number of people in need was in the millions. Those having to wait until day 4 should not have experienced any problem with a 3 day supply of provisions. Republicans like to preach about personal responsibility except when personal irresponsibility serves their purpose.

      You are wrong to label relief effort anything but a success, but what can I expect from a Romneyite just days before the election.

      • 6 votes
      #1.121 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

      Romney's actual disrespect for the American people is the main reason to vote against him:


      Mitt Romney’s campaign insults voters

      By , Updated: Friday, November 2, 11:34 AM

      THROUGH ALL THE flip-flops, there has been one consistency in the campaign of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney: a contempt for the electorate.

      How else to explain his refusal to disclose essential information? Defying recent bipartisan tradition, he failed to release the names of his bundlers — the high rollers who collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. He never provided sufficient tax returns to show voters how he became rich.

      How, other than an assumption that voters are too dim to remember what Mr. Romney has said across the years and months, to account for his breathtaking ideological shifts? He was a friend of immigrants, then a scourge of immigrants, then again a friend. He was a Kissingerian foreign policy realist, then a McCain-like hawk, then a purveyor of peace. He pioneered Obamacare, he detested Obamacare, then he found elements in it to cherish. Assault weapons were bad, then good. Abortion was okay, then bad. Climate change was an urgent problem; then, not so much. Hurricane cleanup was a job for the states, until it was once again a job for the feds.

      The same presumption of gullibility has infused his misleading commercials (see:Jeep jobs to China) and his refusal to lay out an agenda. Mr. Romney promised to replace the Affordable Care Act but never said with what. He promised an alternative to President Obama’s lifeline to young undocumented immigrants but never deigned to describe it.

      And then there has been his chronic, baldly dishonest defense of mathematically impossible budget proposals. He promised to cut income tax rates without exploding the deficit or tilting the tax code toward the rich — but he refused to say how he could bring that off. When challenged, he cited “studies” that he maintained proved him right. But the studies were a mix of rhetoric, unrealistic growth projections and more serious economics that actually proved him wrong.

      This last is important — maybe the crux of the next four years. History has shown that it’s a lot easier to cut taxes than to reduce spending. Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush promised to do both, managed to do only the first and (with plenty of help from Congress) greatly increased the national debt.

      Now Mr. Romney promises to reduce income tax rates by one-fifth — for the rich, that means from 35 percent to 28 percent — and to raise defense spending while balancing the budget. To do so, he would reduce other spending — unspecified — and take away deductions — unspecified. One of the studies he cited, by Harvard economist Martin Feldstein, said Mr. Romney could make the tax math work by depriving every household earning $100,000 or more of all of its charitable deductions, mortgage-interest deductions and deductions for state and local income taxes.

      Does Mr. Romney favor ending those popular tax breaks? He won’t say. But he did take issue with Mr. Feldstein’s definition of the middle class: Mr. Romney said he would protect households earning $250,000 or less. In which case the Feldstein study did not vindicate the Romney arithmetic — it refuted it. Yet the candidate has continued to cite the study.

      Within limits, all candidates say and do what they have to say and do to win. Mr. Obama also has dodged serious interviews and news conferences. He has offered few specifics for a second-term agenda. He, too, aired commercials that distorted his opponent’s statements.

      But Mr. Obama has a record; voters know his priorities. His budget plan is inadequate, but it wouldn't make things worse.

      Mr. Romney, by contrast, seems to be betting that voters have no memories, poor arithmetic skills and a general inability to look behind the curtain. We hope the results Tuesday prove him wrong.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romneys-election-campaign-insults-voters/2012/11/02/69fcc1fc-2428-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story.html?tid=pm_pop

      • 3 votes
      #1.122 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 7:07 PM EDT
      • Thank God -- in just 4 days we will no longer have to listen to the Romney lying machine. I remember every presidential candidate since Ike/Stevenson in 1952 and this Romney clown is the most dishonest candidate of them all.
      • 7 votes
      #1.123 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

      "Israel absentee ballots Romney 84% Obama 16%."

      • Hey Ben -- this is The United States of AMERICA, not the United States if Israel.
      • 5 votes
      #1.124 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

      At this point it doesn't look too good for ol' Mitt. The latest chart I saw has Obama with 253 Electoral College votes (combination of Solid D, Likely D, and Lean D) and Romney with 191. So all Obama needs from there is Ohio, where he has led almost from the start. Obama could lose all the other toss-up states, but as long as he gets Ohio, and the D states remain the same, Obama gets 271...and we have a winner. So four more years of Barack Obama...followed by eight years of Hillary Clinton. Along with a few Republican suicides I'd imagine.

      I really don't want Romney as President. His policies take the country back 50 years, and having to look at his plastic, insincere smile for four years would mean four years of vomiting.

      • 8 votes
      #1.125 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

      The House of Representatives will be essentially the same as now after the election, with Republicans in control with about 240 seats.

      This means that a vote for Obama is a vote for several more years of 'GRIDLOCK', since Obama has demonstrated that he is either unwilling or unable to compromise with the Republicans.

      Unlike Reagan and Clinton, who worked closely with an opposing Congress to get lots of good things done, Obama has made only one attempt to meet with the Republicans (on the Debt crisis), and even then he reneged on the 'deal' he made with Boehner.

      With Romney as President, we will at least have some cooperation between the White House and Congress, and avoid more GRIDLOCK.

        #1.126 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

        DG you'd better look at the real numbers and get some buckets ready, you're going to need them. hahahahahahaha

          #1.127 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

          Roy Wilson, do you listen to anything republicans say or do you only hear what you want to hear?? Republicans said at the beginning of President Obama's term that to make him a one term president, we must all ban together and no matter how serious, no matter how important, we must all stick together and vote no on anything Obama tries to do. The gridlock you're talking about and what Romney is talking about was planned by republicans right from the beginning.

          Female senators voting no on equal pay for women, the auto industry is the backbone of the American economy but republicans were against the auto bailout, republicans told President Obama that they are willing to work with him only if he gave them control over everything, not just the president of the United States, but who would ever agree to those terms?? Don't work with the president and next election say the president won't work with us, and we don't have to worry about the voters because our voters believe everything we say, they actually said, OUR VOTERS WILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING WE SAY!! Romney is proof that statement is true, the man lies about everything and the only ones that believe him are republican voters, just like they said.

          Republicans said, if we can make it as hard as possible on the poor and middle class, all we have to do is blame Obama and our voters will believe us, just like now, you and others like you believe President Obama caused this gridlock.

          • 1 vote
          #1.128 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

          BAD SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT- MARXIST I TELL YOU! BROUGHT TO YOU BE THE LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

          Romney /Ryan same ole Republican BS different ticket - don't tell me your going to fall fot it again especally after Bush/Chaney almost took you out completly. After all you're still paying for their total destruction agendas of 2000/2004. I won't list the screw-ups, too many to mention and you already know what they were.

          CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR - AMERICAS TOO FRAGILE TO TAKE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PUNCH TO THE GUT.

            #1.129 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

            Just three more days of this.

            Three more days of this hate and lies that are 'reported' here. Just three more days of the vitriol and most obscene words to describe a decent person who wants what is good for the country above what is good for him or his party.

            The race is too close to call based on the polls but even on this thread which clearly leans democrat, you can feel the momentum that Romney has created.

            Every other post talks about Romney's lies and his flip flops. None of them actually list any and none of them talk about why their candidate is better. They ignore his lies and his failures. They call people who disagree racists because they have no other argument.

            I agree that this will be a landslide for Romney. Even some of the libs here will vote for him because the bullies can't go in the voting booth and because they want to be on the winning team (more than anything else the dems are fair weather fans).

            The libs are here giving their last ditch attempt to rally the base. The base should have been rallied months ago. The Republicans have moved on and getting ready for a kickass recovery that wasn't possible under Obama.

            Three more days.

            • 2 votes
            #1.130 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

            P.0bama went off-prompter again and finally said what the campaign is all
            about:

            Yesterday, in their "Closing Arguments"

            Obama at his Campaign Rallies----" Don't boo, Vote, Vote, Voting is the best
            REVENGE"

            Romney at his Campaign Rallies----" Vote for Love of Country"

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5urR_mTTcY

            And Axelrod did say 0bama was "Speaking from his loins"...

            • 2 votes
            #1.131 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

            Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma....

            “President Obama is refusing to comply with the law that requires him to publish forthcoming regulations because he doesn’t want the American public to know the terrible cost of the regulatory barrage he plans to unleash in a second term.”

            “So instead of being honest with the American people about what’s in store if he wins, he’s been trying to hide the fact that he intends to move forward with a slew of rules that will destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and dramatically raise the cost of energy on American families.”

            This is the person the left wants to re-elect.... a man that IGNORES the FEDERAL LAW..... at best, he's afraid of the facts...... at worst, he knows the contents & understands the devastation the new rules would have on our country.....

            Either way, Mr Obama is VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW..... his oath of office DEMANDS he uphold the Constitution.... while all Barry does is thumb his nose at the responsibility........

            Romney/Ryan Express.......... ALL ABOARD....... there's still time to SAVE the UNITED STATES...........

              #1.132 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:48 PM EDT

              Romney so proud of his campaign having the "gathered strength of a movement". lol. Maybe a bowel movement.

              Remember the Occupy movement. THAT movement had, and STILL has, more strength than your campaign ever had, or will ever see.

                #1.133 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:03 PM EDT

                With Romney as President, we will at least have some cooperation between the White House and Congress, and avoid more GRIDLOCK.

                Ummm...I don't think so! Mitt's big claim to fame on "reaching across the aisle" is his health care law...that the Democrats wanted all along! So it's not much of a reach when the other side wants it too.

                DG you'd better look at the real numbers and get some buckets ready, you're going to need them. hahahahahahaha

                Here are some "real numbers", from sources like Reuters, a place called Election Projection, SF Gate, and Real Clear Politics. The latter is particularly ominous for Romney, since Real Clear Politics' Nate Silver is eerily accurate in forecasting elections.

                Who's crying now? I provide evidence; you provide...nothing.

                • 1 vote
                #1.134 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:44 PM EST
                Reply

                OH... we will get change alright!

                Within 6 months of Willard & Queen Annie at the helm we will go from a democracy to a PLUTOCRACY!

                My dollars are on President Obama, Willard & Co. and keep their CHANGE!

                It's not the kind of change, America believes in...

                • 66 votes
                #2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:28 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJFK-2112Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                We now see how Feisty Skankhead tries to be the first to post. She see's a new article on First Read, immediately posts a "." to be first. Then spends 30 minutes reading the article trying to figure out what it means and then can't come up with anything intelligent to say. Truly laughable....

                • 14 votes
                #2.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                He'll take the bills and we'll keep the pennies, no DOUBT!

                Frickin' gremlins took a particularly tasty morsel of a post I made this morning. Man that ticks me off. Did I have a copy of it anywhere, nope.

                Will have to try and file it with TWA,...miss you all - Fly bys are all I've got!

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                To my Liberal Friends

                Remain Calm and Obama ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                • 33 votes
                #2.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:33 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJohn-2032532Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
                OH... we will get change alright!

                Within 6 months of Willard & Queen Annie at the helm we will go from a democracy to a PLUTOCRACY!

                My dollars are on President Obama, Willard & Co. and keep their CHANGE!

                It's not the kind of change, America believes in...

                At least you've sobered up and realized Obama's failed presidency has reached its inevitable end.

                • 10 votes
                #2.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                Feisty-

                Do you ever grow tired of all the attention?

                Romney: "I Promise Change" - if my poll numbers don't improve, I will change my positions again tomorrow.

                I challenge ANY Romney supporter to cite JUST ONE issue on which he has not completely reversed his position. JUST. ONE.

                I asked this over a week ago and I still have not seen a single response.

                • 40 votes
                #2.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJohnny92078Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                obama is a liar, cheat and murderer.

                Lies & Murders here:http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26/ac-130u-gunship-was-on-scene-in-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/

                Cheating here:http://patdollard.com/2012/10/poll-plurality-say-polls-cheat-for-obama/ & Here:http://www.cologop.org/democrats-caught-cheating-at-csu-polling-location/

                Americas future and those who dont vote the "o" man, here:http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/01/valerie-jarret-after-we-win-this-election-its-our-turn-payback-time-wsi/

                And finally my take on the "o" man:

                The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy
                works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

                He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

                What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans
                brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for
                centuries until the British ended it.

                Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

                It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophytecame out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. I think Hillary didn't win because of the garbage - I mean baggage - she was carrying with her back into the White House which he had sullied when
                he was in office.

                Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.

                Thus Obama has become thewhite liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being
                White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals toworship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.

                Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain
                Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.

                His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any
                thinking American.

                With God all things are possible Matthew 19:26


                As a Christian you Can Not vote for sin. obama promotes man on man sex, a sin, abortions(murder) also a sin.


                No vote for obama

                • 11 votes
                #2.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                I asked this over a week ago and I still have not seen a single response.

                You do realize you're asking for the impossible...

                Do you ever grow tired of all the attention?

                Nah!

                Keeps them too busy to spread their propaganda! ;o)

                • 34 votes
                #2.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:54 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarAm.VetsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                COMRADE OBAMA and his communist Mexicans are history!

                • 6 votes
                #2.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                you won't get any takers, TNSEVOL. He has flipflopped on coal, abortion, cap and trade, tax cuts, EVERYTHING.

                The only thing he has not flipflopped on is being a flipflopper.

                That's why all his republican primary challengers warned us. “He changed his position on virtually everything. I’m a moderate Republican, that’s what I am, so I’d be inclined to support someone like Mitt Romney. But all those changes give me pause.”
                ~Rudy Giuliani, February 2012

                • 29 votes
                #2.8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                Johnny92078 - you sir do not represent Christians. You post your half-truths and hatred for everyone to see and you think people will believe you actually believe in anything?

                What a vile, disgusting post!

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 34 votes
                #2.9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                'Johnny 99' -

                Ease off on the meds there big fella......

                As a Christian you Can Not vote for sin

                Last time I checked my Bible one of the 'Top Ten' Sins was LYING.

                9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

                Sorry, no way I can vote for Romney........it would be a sin!

                • 36 votes
                #2.10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                Feisty,

                Robme couldn't even change his shoes if they were on the wrong foot. Come to think of it, he walks like his shoes are on the wrong foot...ouch!!!

                • 17 votes
                #2.11 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJohnny92078Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                @SeekingSanity

                That darn truths drive you pepole mad, huh? "The truth shall set you free"
                You are being fooled by the great satan.

                Romans 13:1-14 ESV

                Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...

                obama does not believe in God. He thinks he is one.

                Romney/Ryan R & R like Ronald Reagan
                2012-2020

                http://countingdownto.com/countdown/106347

                • 4 votes
                #2.12 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

                Johnny has been banging the Libya drum so hard that his brain is as rattled as his nerves.

                • 19 votes
                #2.13 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                Johnny: you can believe in whatever perverse doctrine you care to believe in. Doesn't change the most important thing about the United States. It is not a Christian nation, and the Wall of Separation still stands.

                • 20 votes
                #2.14 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                'Johnny 99'-

                I would go easy on the Bible verses. There is not much Biblical support for the Republican approach to taking care of the sick, poor and elderly; or the superiority of the wealthy:

                “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

                I remember Jesus throwing money-changers out of the Temple, and saying how hard it would be for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven.

                I remember Jesus feeding the hungry, healing the sick, and curing the blind. I don't remember him complaining about their 'lack of personal responsiblity' for becoming hungry, sick or blind in the first place.

                I grew up Baptist going to church four times a week, I can do this all day!

                • 19 votes
                #2.15 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                JFK-2112 said:

                Quote.......She see's a new article on First Read, immediately posts a "." to be first.......EndQuote

                There are several things wrong with your theory JFK-2112:

                1. Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL did not post the initial comment in this thread.

                2. Pigotry, who did post the initial comment, did not post a "."

                3. Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL rarely posts a comment consisting solely of ".".

                4. Your theory does not (even attempt to) explain HOW Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL becomes (so quickly) aware of a newly posted article. Thus, the essence of your ignorance remains.

                It is amusing that you GOPeaParty Newsvine posters are so fazed, fascinated, and confounded by Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL's MYSTERIOUS ABILITY to frequently post the initial (particularly before YOUR) comment.

                Here's a clue: Most GOPeaParty folk are technologically challenged. But, you folks think anything you don't understand is some sort of conspiracy.

                Perhaps, you should (e.g. Wile Coyote) strap on an ACME rocket in an attempt to be first.

                beep....beep......ZZZZzzzzooooommmm

                • 16 votes
                #2.16 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                Johnny: .

                You have judged President Obama's faith.

                "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED." is still in my Bible.

                • 21 votes
                #2.17 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

                Johnny ...

                Thus Obama has become thewhite liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being
                White.

                Bring it on little man. I'm a born-again Christian white woman who solidly believes in the Bible and has voted for Barack Obama twice now. I vote for him because he's the better man for the job. If you're so indoctrinated by voting with your Bible in one hand and ballot in the other, why pray tell are you voting for someone who puts the teachings of man above those of God?

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 26 votes
                #2.18 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                About time we put a business man in the white house ... not some stupid lawyer

                • 6 votes
                #2.19 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                Johnny, why is it then you post as if you are the "authority"? The Bible also says something like judge not, lest ye be judged. President Obama is a man of the Christian faith, you have no proof to state otherwise yet you have taken it upon yourself, just as does Mitt Romney, to make false accusations against another--also a sin according to the Bible. Perhaps you need to head to church and ask forgiveness of the God you claim to fear and love.

                • 21 votes
                #2.20 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                Obama is running on scare tactics and the same promises he made in 2008. Then if re-elected Obama can break all those promises again, so the next Democratic candidate in 2016 can run on them. None of the polls have Obama over 50%, and absentee voting is way down compared to 2008. Both signs that do not bode well for Obama.

                • 5 votes
                #2.21 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                Romney is running on lies.

                There is no way a man who as not had a job in years, outdated resume

                can do that SH*T load of day one promises.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 13 votes
                #2.22 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                sandy-1851937, you said:

                Quote......As a Christian I can not vote for a Mormon......EndQuote

                Even many Mormons can't endorse Romney.

                http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/romney-obama-state-president.html.csp

                Tribune (Obama) endorsement: Too Many Mitts --- Obama has earned another term

                Some say Romney is a "good and righteous man". There is much evidence (i.e. the high school assault, animal abuse, endorsement of Mourdock, psychopathic business choices, etc.) to the contrary.

                This is (only) one reason folks should deny Romney our presidency. There are MANY others.

                • 14 votes
                #2.23 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                Perhaps, you should (e.g. Wile Coyote) strap on an ACME rocket in an attempt to be first.

                beep....beep......ZZZZzzzzooooommmm

                Ian Emdee

                BOOM! lmao!

                PS: Haven't you heard the latest conspiracy theory? I'm actually Jen Psaki.... ;o)

                I can keep them mesmerized!

                • 15 votes
                #2.24 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                Johnny:

                Are you Christian or Jewish? For someone who claims to be a Christian, you sure seem to have overlooked the teachings of the New Testament and Christ and are living in the Old Testament. You do nothing but promote lies and prejudice. Can you imagine the sorrow of Christ if he read your posts? All his teachings on compassion, fairness and justice ... shot down by someone like you who chooses to hide behind the word religion, using it as a mask to hide your face while screaming your prejudice and hatred at the top of your lungs.

                Christ taught that anyone who boasted about their "faith" actually lacked it ... and that is what I see in you. Just a scared, prejudiced narrow-minded bigot who uses religion as a weapon to expound your close-minded views.

                Crawl back under your rock and hide ... because President Obama will be in the White House for another 4 years!

                Obama / Biden 2012

                • 17 votes
                #2.25 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                Ah, nothing ruins a good Tea Party faster than a little too much misplaced saltwater and another plutocratic stuffed shirt rubber stamp presidential candidate to remind us of George W. Bush's sorrowful mishandling of hurricane Katrina. Where's George W. Bush this weekend? In the Cayman Islands visiting Mitt Romney's money and teaching investors how to create tax-free shelters thereby avoiding the U.S. tax system. Classy, and so well-timed.

                You're doing a heckuva job, Bushy.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 17 votes
                #2.26 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                Clint8U......you said:

                Quote....not some stupid lawyer....EndQuote

                Mitt Romney --- IS --- a lawyer**.

                BTW---Are you (at all) concerned that democrats (apparently) know more about your candidate than you?

                **Romney holds a joint Juris Doctor/Master of Business Administration from Harvard.

                • 16 votes
                #2.27 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                Sandy-1851937... As compared to a man who has NEVER held a job and hides his college transcripts, fast and furious docs, passports, and now is shredding Libya docs so fast the 350 Chevy engine on the shredder is overheating.. Sounds like you've picked a great man for the job.

                Romney/Ryan 2012 It's all but in the bag.

                • 3 votes
                #2.28 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                @Clint8U -

                Romney has a JD (law degree), so I assume you mean you cannot vote for him?

                A businessman? Well, a good businessperson (company owner, CEO, etc.) is in business to make money. They have a Board of Dierctors from whom they take advice and they have stockholders that pony up money to operate the company in the hopes that it will do well and they will get a return larger than they invested.

                We are a NATION ... not a CORPORATION. If the United States were to be run as a corporation the president would be the CEO ... the House & Congress would be the Board of Directors and the Stockholders would be the 1% - 2% in the top income bracket. The job of the CEO is to make money for him/herself, the Board members and the Stockholders ... the other 98% - 99% of the "citizens" don't matter. They are just something to be used.

                We do NOT need to have our country run as a Corporation ... we need it to be run as a nation ... where ther president is responsive to and cares about 100% of the citizens. We know all too well where Romney stands regarding the people of our country ... he said he didn't care about half of us.

                Omaba represents the best interests of ALL Americans and is working hard for equality for ALL Americans, not just the 1%ers.

                Obama / Biden 2012

                • 15 votes
                #2.29 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                No change from you Willard you lying piece of poop. By the way, make sure you have a ride the morning of November 7, 2012, when your Secret Service Detail leaves you for good.

                • 14 votes
                #2.30 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                Do you ever grow tired of all the attention?

                Nah!

                Keeps them too busy to spread their propaganda! ;o)

                LMAO!! FIESTY I LOVE YOU!!!

                • 12 votes
                #2.31 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

                Johnny92078

                That darn truths drive you pepole mad, huh? "The truth shall set you free"
                You are being fooled by the great satan.

                I'm tired of charlatans who thump Bibles at me, calling my President Hitler, Stalin, Satan. It annoys me.

                From the inside of my twisted and special brain, I have a slightly different perspective, Johnny92087. Allow me to share, starting with a question:

                What is on this Earth that has been here from the beginning, creating mountains and the valleys; rivers, lakes, streams, oceans; unveiling vast plains and prairies, expansive forests? Who caused the great flood, and rain to fall for forty days and nights, flooding the entire surface of the earth? I can't say God for sure, but I can most definitely say water was the #1 player in the game.

                And while God promised never to do that again, what if He changed His mind? There would be no witnesses left to testify against Him... and who would hold "Him" in judgement for such a crime? Catholicism? Mormonism? Judaism? Islam? Please. Sometimes it's simply easier to just Etch-a-Sketch the whole planet.

                Which brings me to my theory, which is much more simple. Water is, for all intents and purposes, God; and when God wants change, lo and behold, notice how quickly and efficiently water gets busy reshaping everything with the greatest of ease, without compassion or mercy, without ideological, religious or socio-economic or most any other boundries not mountain-sized and solid as granite. Even in the latter case, history shows us that water has patience and will reduce any mountain to sand in time. Seems to me there's even something about that in the Bible.

                Ironically, flooding this planet would do more in the end to cause life to flourish on Earth, not actually end it. Life would just be moved below the surface of the waters, where we all started, each and every one of us.

                Water has always been here, never asleep, never disconnected from itself. It takes on various forms to serve so many purposes; and when we look for evidence of life elsewhere, DNA is not the first thing we look for. We search for what we know with 75% certainty is in every living body, the majority stockholder in our very mass: the eternal entity that is water; and all the evidence we need to know once and for all that we need to take care of our planet's fresh and salt water supplies.

                Because unlike Mitt Romney, I believe Earth is heaven; and we are in the process of living an eternal life through the flow of Life, God, of Water, of Spirit, all interchangeably; Birds can fly, fish can swim; we become whatever we can dream through evolution. Everlasting life can know no timekeeper, so then consider that about 75% of our body, at all times, is inseparable from that everlasting life flow. 75% of our mass has been in, on, under or around Earth for 4.54 billion years or so. If you're a Christian and believe it's only been a few thousand years, so be it. Regardless of the timeframe, water flows right through us and we simply, dispassionately, flush it down the toilet three or four times a day. Sometimes it is unexpectedly released through a rapid blood flow, causing the entire form to fail.

                The ultimate destroyer of this world above the shoreline is, was, and always will be water. Therefore, Water best be the God you begin to worship, in any form you choose to recognize it. And we best choose a leader for President who has that kind of respect for ultimate power. I think New York's Mayor Bloomberg and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie have a much better idea of what I'm talking about today than they did two weeks ago when they were publicly bashing our President at every opportunity; the same way clueless Mitt is still doing today. It would have cost him fewer points to have just gone into total seclusion for the remainder of the campaign.

                You can't save the planet if you don't think it's broken.

                Obama / Biden 2012

                • 15 votes
                #2.32 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                Even many Mormons can't endorse Romney. - Ian Emdee

                You are under the mistaken belief that residents of Utah are Mormon. In fact the majority of Salt Lake City residents are not Mormon.

                • 5 votes
                #2.33 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                Comrade OBAMA will help Mexicans defeat America. He has already deferred millions of Americans jobs to foreign speaking illegal aliens in your own neighborhoods.

                • 3 votes
                #2.34 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                What I really don't understand is that you've got bible thumpers like Johnny here who support Romney, who is not only a pastor but a bishop in the Mormon religion.

                Johnny - don't you know that Mormons consider the Bible most Christians use as perverted and corrupted? If the Bible is the source of your life view, why do you support a man who went on missions to teacher that your life view is that of Satan?

                I'd really like to understand that. And I'd like to understand how people like Pat Robertson and the Billy Graham people throw their theology under the bus to support Romney. It's like their religious beliefs are less important than their political beliefs or (and I think this is true) most evangelical preachers do not believe the stuff that they say. I think the Pat Robertsons of the world view their flocks as suckers to be looted.

                But as to Johnny and his ilk, I can only excuse it with remarkable ignorance about the very things that they claim ar most important to them.

                • 14 votes
                #2.35 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

                Johnny92078

                stop citing some useless blogs as your sources...we all know that Romney cites blogs as his "TAX STUDIES" but come on don't be Romney ignorant.

                • 13 votes
                #2.36 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

                Johnnie 99: Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain
                Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.

                If you are a true Christian you would follow the teachings of that rabbi in the New Testament. Oh, the Teabaggers of the day had him nailed to a cross.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 14 votes
                #2.37 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

                I can keep them mesmerized!

                Feisty: That goes for liberals too. ☺

                4 more 4 44

                • 10 votes
                #2.38 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                I'm going to miss all the paid GOP posters on here after election day...

                • 9 votes
                #2.39 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                truthinsarcasm - well you have the sarcasm down pat but no truth. President Obama is NOT hiding anything - everyone's college transcripts are confidential and cannot be released without permission. We have not seen Mitt's college transcripts; passport; or the traditional minimum of 5 years of tax returns that ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES IN MODERN TIME HAVE RELEASED. Clearly, it Mitt who is hiding his deceit and fraud.

                Our President is not hiding anything. And, the shredder nonsense - total nonsense. However I do understand Mitt had all documents shredded when the left the Governor's office in Mass. Hmmmmm,

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 13 votes
                #2.40 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                Bill-2910238.......you said:

                Quote......You are under the mistaken belief that residents of Utah are Mormon........EndQuote

                Ironically, your (false) statement (above) actually contains (a kernel of) truth. That is, "residents of Utah are Mormon", is a factual phrase. Now, if someone said (and....none did) that "ALL residents of Utah are Mormon", you would have a point. But, sadly, you don't.

                For your edification, consult: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/map_of_the_week/2012/02/mormon_population_in_the_u_s_an_interactive_map.html

                As you can see, the state of Utah has one of the highest densities of Mormons in our nation. You might also want to review the HISTORY of Utah. Mormonism is fairly significant in it.

                Do you think, in view of these demographic and historical facts, the Salt Lake City Tribune might be (at least) more sensitive to the concerns and opinions of MORMONS than a newspaper in (say) North Dakota?

                That's the point (you missed). Thanks for the opportunity to provide clarity.

                Hey bayllie........Wouldn't that be "Romnignorant" ? It's a co-morbidity of "Romnesia".

                • 6 votes
                #2.41 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

                We now see how Feisty Skankhead

                Username insults are really bad contributions, folks. JFK-2112 banned, multiple of JFK2112, also banned. Don't register multiple accounts.

                • 10 votes
                #2.42 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                Ian Emdee,

                Hey bayllie......Wouldn't that be "Romnignorant"?

                YES! That is much more appropriate!

                • 4 votes
                #2.43 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                how hysterical.. a rmoney republican voter who doesnt know he IS a lawyer!

                PRICELESS!!!!

                • 6 votes
                #2.44 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                OBAMA 2008.......MEXICO's First Black Presidential Puppet.

                • 2 votes
                #2.45 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
                Reply

                Did he just say *gasp* hope and change?

                • 14 votes
                Reply#3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                no, he promised change. we already knew he was all about changing though with as many times his view on different issues has completely changed.

                • 13 votes
                #3.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

                Obama’s Electoral College ‘Firewall’ Holding in Polls

                NATE SILVER - THE. BEST. POLLING. DATA. EVER.! ***UPDATED LAST NIGHT***

                Nate predicts on Nov. 6,
                President Obama is 80.9% likely to win 303+ Electoral College votes!
                .
                President Obama chances of winning: the popular vote - 78.5%
                .

                President Obama chances of winning: OH - 80.5%

                President Obama chances of winning: PA - 96.2%

                President Obama chances of winning: VA - 66.4%

                President Obama chances of winning: NH - 77.8%

                President Obama chances of winning: WISC - 91.2%

                President Obama chances of winning: NV - 87.7%

                President Obama chances of winning: CO - 64.6%

                President Obama chances of winning: IOWA - 78.8%

                .

                4 MORE DAYS TIL THE CHUBBY LADY SINGS, and Myth Robme & Lyin' Ryan go home . . . . to states that didn't vote for them!

                .

                O & JOE - FORWARD! (Myth Robme - 1040's, because you LIED to Mass voters about your state taxes, and are probably lying about your Fed taxes!)

                • 18 votes
                #3.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                Blatina here.

                Very Busy this couple of days holding two jobs, one that pays and the other to fire our current President.

                In a thought to get some laughter in all this madness, I'm putting a link to something that my son says is playing all over the college that he attends. I'm sure it will make both sides laugh.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE0M9R1YXH0

                • 3 votes
                #3.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                Obama has no plan- therein lies the problem. His hope and change was just tax and spend. He turned the reins over to Pelousy and Reid so he could party like a rockstar in the Whitehouse, and then when Pelousy went away, he was neutered. He has divided the country like no other and should be fired immediately. Hillary would have been a better choice.

                • 1 vote
                #3.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

                mitt has no plan or else he would know the specifics of it and give them.

                • 10 votes
                #3.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                Yes, what's Mitt's plan for anything? "TRUST ME"

                • 8 votes
                #3.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                With the relatively strong October numbers, and the upward revisions to August and September, the economy has now created an average of 157,000 jobs per month so far this year. This may be a slight underestimate, in fact. The government has announced, but not yet officially incorporated into the numbers, its estimates of annual benchmark revisions, which would add to the jobs numbers in January through March.

                Those revisions would bring average jobs growth throughout the year to about 165,000 jobs per month.

                Game over.

                • 2 votes
                #3.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

                real america, even IF your numbers were accurate, they're not even keeping pace with the kids coming out of high school, college and the birth rate. Look up the word stagnant in the dictionary.

                  #3.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 12:36 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  The change Romney promises is a further erosion of job protections for workers, dismantling Roe v Wade, making contraceptives harder and harder to get, and a rape of the Federal Treasury for his rich buddies.

                  This election is crucial, probably more crucial than we know. Romney wants the 1% to rule firmly over everyone else, and if you vote for him, you vote for that to happen.

                  Protect yourself and your country. Vote Obama/Biden, your future and the future of your children depends on it.

                  • 35 votes
                  Reply#4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:33 PM EDT

                  Speaking of the Treasury:

                  A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist
                  until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public
                  treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates
                  promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a
                  democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a
                  dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200
                  years.

                  Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth,
                  to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from
                  abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to
                  apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

                  If obama wins, We Lose.

                  • 10 votes
                  #4.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                  'Johnny 99'-

                  Here's a few quotes for you:

                  “We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.” –Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court Justice (1856-1941)

                  “The man of great wealth owes a peculiar obligation to the state because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government.” - –Theodore Roosevelt, U.S. President (1858-1919)

                  “I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” - Abraham Lincoln

                  • 22 votes
                  #4.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:10 PM EDT
                  • 2 votes
                  #4.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                  Johnny, I was with you right up to your last sentence, "if obama wins. We Lose" Of course President Obama will win this election because the uber conservatives who hijacked my Republican party have no NEW ideas. If your opposing candidate had a workable "PLAN" and folks rallied around that plan...this election would be a slam dunk for him. He doesn't, and the "cut taxes/slash socail programs/increase military spending" hasn't worked... People aren't buyin' what Romney is selling.

                  Handing the Nation to Mitt Romney's cronies is another step toward Oligarchy. Is that REALLY what you want?

                  • 16 votes
                  #4.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                  Mitt is honest here. He is promising "change"... he is referring to his positions. All he is saying is that he will keep changing his positions. I admire his honesty.

                  • 10 votes
                  #4.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                  Johnny:

                  If you quote someone like Alexander Tytler you should give him the credit. To steal someone else's words and offer them as your own makes you a thief. What does your scripture say about that?

                  Obama / Biden 2012

                  • 7 votes
                  #4.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                  If OBAMA wins in 2012, Mexico promises to put his face on the new pesos.

                  • 3 votes
                  #4.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                  Joe Biden knows about using other people's words, he has been convicted of plagerism.

                  Get rid of the crooks in 2012- vote Romney/Ryan

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                  How did he end up getting convicted of something you can't even spell Crystal?... Your second sentence isn't in your own interest either.

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                  How does one get convicted of plagiarism?

                  • 3 votes
                  #4.10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

                  Right, newday,

                  The only change Romney/Ryan offer is a return to a mid-evil times culture where all the wealth and power are reserved to the Lords and Barons, a time when a days pay was a pound of rice and women were stoned to death for being seen in public without a family member or husband.

                  The days of the Puritans or American Taliban must remain buried in the history books.

                  • 7 votes
                  #4.11 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                  Romney is a liar! He can't be trusted as the most powerful leader in the free world, His character as a leader in America will create a moral decline for America and the world. Being a leader is serious business! He is worse than ex-Pres. Bush!!!

                  It’s your choice, folk’s, so choose wisely, because your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren are depending on you to make the right decision!

                    #4.12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 12:06 AM EDT
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                    I have no doubt there will be change but I think it will be bad change. Always forward....

                    • 20 votes
                    Reply#5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                    Rmoney and "change."

                    Reminds me of the line from the Depression: "Buddy can you spare a dime?"

                    • 20 votes
                    Reply#6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

                    Stop...I'm about to bust a couple of ribs, laughing so hard!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
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                    Yeah, "change" back to the policies that ruined our economy and the middle class in the first place. NO THANKS, MITT.

                    • 28 votes
                    Reply#7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                    That's been my #1 complaint against Obama for a while now -- his domestic diplomacy fail. He just.can't.work with this congress. The pairing is toxic. While the president and his republican congress teach each other a lesson, we suffer. Republicans have more of their fair share of the blame here, but Obama did not help the situation. He made it worse by trying to cram policy down the throats of those across the aisle, instead of craft policy with those on the other side.

                    Romney can do this. He can be bipartisan. He has a record of working -- and working well -- with democrats.

                    Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

                    • 17 votes
                    #8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

                    NorCal, what are your thoughts on Mitch McConnell saying that his only agenda was to make sure that President Obama was a one term president? What are your thoughts on the House voting against what they had originally been in favor of if Obama compromised with them. Sorry to rain on your parade, but Obama has done a tremendous job with no hep and nothing but obstruction from the GOP.

                    • 25 votes
                    #8.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

                    And of course, the mountains of praise heaped upon the President by Governor Christie, Colin Powell and Mayor Bloomberg demonstrate what a failure he is at creating bipartisan support.

                    Romney is a shapeshifter, a man with no ideology of his own, who steals creative ideas from others in a pathetic effort to scrounge up every last vote. He has the integrity of a toaster and the intellect of a turnip. Is this really the guy America needs to move her forward into the future? Sure, if you consider 1955 the future!

                    "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything!" Obama/Biden in 2012

                    • 23 votes
                    #8.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                    your nuts. Obama gave Republicans their own ideas that they created and they voted against them. Is that what you mean by working across the aisle?

                    • 19 votes
                    #8.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                    NorCal Moderate,

                    Two things:

                    First, why in the world would you think that Democrats would acede to working across the aisle with a Romney presidency? My guess is that 'obstructionist payback' would be a bitch.

                    Second, why would Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquist, and the Tea Party EVER allow Mitt to follow his PHONY and PRE-APPROVED move toward the center with an ACTUAL move toward the center?

                    Romney will be prevented from working across the aisle by BOTH sides.

                    Sorry, but I think that you must be politically very naive.

                    • 17 votes
                    #8.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                    You all miss the point. The point is, Obama absolutely can NOT work with this congress.

                    Period.

                    I can't stand another four years of Obama and his congress trying to teach each other a lesson.

                    • 7 votes
                    #8.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                    charemor, what are your thoughts on Hussein telling the Republicans to shut up and get out of the way? What are your thoughts on Hussein ranting that "I won" in regards to how he doesn't need anything from the Republicans? And how about your thoughts about all the closed-door meetings that Husseing had with Democrats only when crafting the PPACA and Cap and Trade???? If you're claiming that Hussein had no help from the GOP, then that was his own doing.

                    • 4 votes
                    #8.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                    "Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope"

                    LOL!! So he's Luke Skywalker now?

                    Seriously, how can you even type that without falling out of your chair laughing? What a bunch of robots.

                    • 15 votes
                    #8.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                    NorCalModerate: Sounds like you are getting your information from the Faux News talking heads. Remember the big meeting of the Republican "minds" shortly after Obama was elected...in which they made it their number one priority to make Obama a one-term POTUS??? Remember how many jobs bills the House put forward - 0 - and how many anti-abortion bills they put forward - hundreds - ? Obstructionist Repubs in the House & Senate will pay for their actions in this election. When Obama is re-elected, they will have no choice but to meet him half-way in his second term in order to stop the bleeding of seats in both chambers in the next election cycle. Maybe - just maybe - they will actually start working FOR the people and not simply AGAINST Obama.

                    As for Romney's ability to "work with Democrats" - give me a break. If that's the case, why wasn't he re-elected to a second term as Governor. Also, why were 90% of his vetos overturned by the Massachusetts legislature during his term? Doesn't sound bipartisan to me at all.

                    • 13 votes
                    #8.8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                    President Obama has reached his hand across the aisle again and again, And every time the Republicans spit on it.

                    You can't blame Obama for dems and repubs not working together. He is trying. Republicans are the one refusing, even going so far as to vote against their own ideas just to oppose the President.

                    • 17 votes
                    #8.9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                    Norcal---No - think again. Romney was known as the Imperial Governor. He talks a good line, but he was a veto king. He had his space roped off and tape on the floor telling people where to stand. Very hard for people to get to know him. So, if you think he is going to be able to work with the Democrats --think again.

                    I will stick with President Obama, and hopefully with this election we will say good-bye to the Tea Party!

                    • 14 votes
                    #8.10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                    Yeah, sure, Obama has NO fault in this. None at all. Nope. Couldn't have contributed to the problem, right?

                    Wrong.

                    From our very own First Read:

                    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13234565-obama-gets-his-target-with-pick-of-ryan?lite

                    • 3 votes
                    #8.11 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

                    really? Look at Obama and Christie-- that is bipartisan for the country. Republicans have no interest in bipartisanship-- they are juvenile bullies. If there is a Republican winner long term, it will be someone like Christie.. not Romney who has no principles whatsoever -- someone who lies non-stop rather than standing up for something. Hopefully, the images of Obama and Christie working together for the COUNTRY will start putting people like Romney back where they belong-- in a dark corner of American history.

                    • 12 votes
                    #8.12 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

                    Romney's 'Day One' agenda:

                    1) Repeal or defund Obamacare

                    2) Push for a 20% Tax Cut

                    3) Approve the Keystone Pipeline

                    How much bipartisan 'Goodwill' do you think would be left after that first day in office?

                    • 13 votes
                    #8.13 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

                    I already have hard proof that Obama can't soften congressional republicans. I'm absolutely willing to take a shot with someone else. If there were another democrat running, I'd be willing to give that candidate a shot! But as it is, Obama is a definite no.

                    • 4 votes
                    #8.14 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                    and you are about as stupid as a box of rocks if you think Romney can work with others a common affliction of the current republican party middle aged white men with tiny penises that are scared to death of strong intelligent women and anybody who doesn't look like them. Never been out of the country but knows so much about Europe etc. women republicans usually so stupid that if they didn't have a vagina there would be a bounty on their heads, then the gutless white trailer trash that calls itself the "tea party' it sounds better than the Klan right. 55 year old white man here, make 6 figures I will come back to the GOP when they kick the trash out, think of it, intellectual pilars of the party Santorum, Palin, Bachman a joke, nominate a guy who will do or say anything, take any side of any issue, depending on the audience little puppets of your masters

                    • 11 votes
                    #8.15 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

                    you are about as stupid as a box of rocks

                    Thanks for that, Dan. Sure makes me want to vote for your candidate when you start your response off with an insult!

                    • 5 votes
                    #8.16 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                    NorCalModerate-

                    So you would reward Republican obstructionism with voting for their candidate for President, which was their goal all along?

                    Doesn't that set a dangerous precedent for future Congress' actions? If they fail to work towards bi-partisan compromise and obstruct it will result in political reward? That the Tea Party 'take no prisoners' approach is the right way to do things?

                    If my son doesn't cooperate at school I don't blame the teacher or his classmates, I discipline him.

                    • 12 votes
                    #8.17 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                    Tnsevol, I can't stand another 4 years of teaching each other a lesson. I just want to get stuff done, get this recovery working faster, and THEN we can waste valuable time and money firing those who need to be fired.

                    This, what's going on now between the President and congress, just isn't working. And I'm not willing to jeopardize the recovery to set it right. Let's get the country fully recovered, then we can weed out the idiots.

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.18 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                    And did you see that Sen. Reid basically said that Democrats are going to be the new Republican obstructionists if Romney wins? Sigh. I guess we're screwed, either way.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.19 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                    Might want to boost your meds then, NorCal. President Obama will be re-elected and we'll also be getting rid of Dan Lungren and his ilk. My Republican party has been taken over by extremist, fringe right loonies. There was a time when the Republican party had a more centrist, balanced approach. When the Republican party comes back from the fringe, they will become relevant again, but for TODAY....no.

                    • 10 votes
                    #8.20 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                    Nor Cal, I understand & respect your concerns . . . . BUT, There is NO CHANCE of an economic recovery under Myth Robme & Lyin Ryan! do some research - read some stuff - anyone who knows economics will tell you - look for articles by Robert Reich, & Paul Krugman (NY Times).

                    His proposed policies CAN'T work - not mathematically possible.

                    And he has NO HISTORY of bi-partisanship:

                    http://www.thenation.com/blog/170637/romneys-false-claims-bipartisanship-massachusetts

                    .

                    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/06/us/politics/romney-claims-of-bipartisanship-as-governor-face-challenge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

                    .

                    After this election, the Republican's will realize how angry the voters are, because of their pledge to oppose everything Obama has tried to do . . . if we voters speak up, they will have to "work across the aisle" IF VOTERS DEMAND IT.

                    THAT IS HOW TO GET WASHINGTON WORKING AGAIN!

                    .

                    O & JOE - FORWARD! Fire the Obstructionists! :-)

                    • 14 votes
                    #8.21 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                    If this election is as close as it looks there may not be any more cooperation between the President and congress than what you see now. Republicans will start campaigning for the bi- election right away and won't be in a compromising mood any more than they ever have have been.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.22 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

                    The sad thing about all of this is, if we can't even be diplomatic at home, how do we expect to get good diplomatic outcomes abroad?

                    Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.23 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

                    A new hope for what? They haven;t told you anything about how they will make American better.

                    • 3 votes
                    #8.24 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                    Charemor, the relationship went south when Obummer told the the repubs in the stimulus debate "I won" and shut them down. Bipartisanship works both ways and this president has never understood what the term means.

                      #8.25 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 12:49 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Chuck Todd emphasized last week that by the Thursday night before the election, the electorate usually 'sets' and very little changes after that. I believe the popular vote has set in favor of the President by just a little bit. However, the electoral map has set by a much larger margin in favor of President Obama and the politicking that will be done over the weekend won't affect this.

                      Just a re-stated thought...

                      • 16 votes
                      Reply#9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                      From your computer to God's ear, Fancy :-)

                      • 6 votes
                      #9.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                      Looks like a huge win for Mitt Romney. Sorry Mr. President : you want to cut veteran health benefits and not cut unionized civilian defense workers health benefits. Sorry Mr. President you have failed us veterans and our Libyan Ambassador and its time to give you your pink slip. We wont be fooled again.

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 10:31 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Romney is full of himself. He will lose.

                      • 20 votes
                      Reply#10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                      Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma....

                      “President Obama is refusing to comply with the law that requires him to publish forthcoming regulations because he doesn’t want the American public to know the terrible cost of the regulatory barrage he plans to unleash in a second term.”

                      “So instead of being honest with the American people about what’s in store if he wins, he’s been trying to hide the fact that he intends to move forward with a slew of rules that will destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs and dramatically raise the cost of energy on American families.”

                      This is the person the left wants to re-elect.... a man that IGNORES the FEDERAL LAW..... at best, he's afraid of the facts...... at worst, he knows the contents & understands the devastation the new rules would have on our country.....

                      Either way, Mr Obama is VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW..... his oath of office DEMANDS he uphold the Constitution.... while all Barry does is thumb his nose at the responsibility........

                      Romney/Ryan Express.......... ALL ABOARD....... there's still time to SAVE the UNITED STATES...........

                        #10.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:49 PM EDT
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                        Nice slogan, Governor. At least it was in 2008, when the President coined it! 

                        If this blatant thievery is an example of the type of integrity we can expect of you as President, then the only change America needs is for you to change from candidate to unemployed former candidate!

                        • 16 votes
                        Reply#11 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                        Romney also stole Pres. Obama's foreign policy, and more recently his stance on the auto bailout.

                        Well, Romney was against the auto bailout...then he was for it, claiming it was 'exactly' what he proposed...now apparently he is against it again, claiming it sent jobs to China.

                        Sure is hard to keep track of Romney's positions. Do they write his latest positions in chalk or pencil?

                        • 18 votes
                        #11.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

                        As Jon Stewart said, "I'm thinking Romney is leaning Obama!"

                        I have to admit, abandoning everything he campaigned on for a year in the first debate was bold, even though overtly disingenious. Obama looked shocked. I imagine he thought everyone would see the absolute reversal on tax cuts, Medicare, dismantling Social Security, etc. and turn on the flip flopper. Instead, everyone thought it was great! Romney won!!!!

                        Or lost. Or won big time. I promise. No, I don't. I didn't say that.

                        This guy Wrongme is the sleaziest professional career campaigner the U.S. has ever seen, and that's saying a lot.

                        • 16 votes
                        #11.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                        And his own slaughtered company (Delphi that he and Bain murdered then sent to China) was Obama moving jobs to China???

                        • 8 votes
                        #11.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
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                        Republican kool aid, The only change we will see is everyone changing their underwear. We will need to because we can only allow so much crap.Romney experience as a job creator is to alter a company to make sure that the stock holders get a bang for their buck. Do people really think that he is going to give working people a break. If so, keep drinking the kool aid

                        • 17 votes
                        Reply#12 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

                        Here is Queen Lipstick on the job creation myth:

                        “Gov. Romney has claimed to have created 100,000 jobs at Bain and people are wanting to know, is there proof of that claim? And was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens?”
                        ~Sarah Palin, Hannity, January 2012

                        To answer the question, nobody has any proof or evidence of Romney as a job creator. He applied that label to himself. That's all it took. Just like his invention of the 'Apology Tour'. It never happened, but Willard said it did, so that is good enough for the baggers.

                        If being a businessman equals using inherited wealth to buy up companies, loot them and lay off the workers, then yes, Romney is one hell of a businessman.

                        • 11 votes
                        #12.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                        And he had all of his administration records in MA destroyed as he left office so that there would be no trail to his misdeeds there, according to so many people from MA. That is why he has very little support from MA or his "home state" (only his place of birth, not his home state) of MI.

                        • 8 votes
                        #12.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:11 PM EDT
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                        Romney wants change, he wants to change things back to Bush.

                        • 19 votes
                        Reply#13 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                        We don't want you Romney in Kansas or any other state!

                        • 14 votes
                        Reply#14 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                        Kansas will be won by Romney ! Perhaps, you should go to the store and get loaded up with Kaopectate or Lomotil early ... because we know you will "soil" your undies !

                        • 1 vote
                        #14.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:24 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        That's the first true thing Romney has said this whole campaign. He is about change...about changing his mind more often than Madonna changes bras.

                        • 19 votes
                        Reply#15 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                        Yes, and we don't even get to enjoy the mental imagery.

                        • 6 votes
                        #15.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Romney by a landslide. Romney/Ryan 2012.

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#16 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                        Just me: Have you been reading or listening to the news? Neither candidate will win by a "landslide".

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                        The Wrongme supporters seem to have picked up the 'wildly enthusiastic' banner dropped by Ron Paul supporters.

                        RON PAUL 2016

                        I wouldn't be surprised if he runs again.

                        • 4 votes
                        #16.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                        Go find a Rehabilitation Center that will help you with your meth usage...so delusional!!!

                        • 2 votes
                        #16.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

                        Just me, I don't know if it will be a landslide, but I do hope he wins.

                        And it amuses me to no end that people who WANT you to vote for their candidate do so by slinging insults. I'm sorry, my liberal friends posting on this thread, but insulting a person doesn't make that person think "oh, gee, maybe 4whatisright is right after all and I should vote for Obama!" What do the insults and name-calling get you? Does it make you feel better? Because it sure doesn't make anyone want to take your political advice!!

                        Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

                        • 4 votes
                        #16.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                        Just me - Now I'm not crazy about Romney but I don't even want him hurt in a landslide. I just want him to go away!

                        Obama/Biden 2012

                        • 8 votes
                        #16.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                        NorCalModerate, good morning. I don't agree with you politically, but I do agree with your point on name calling. I don't get it either. Someone calling me a libtard will certainly change my mind ! I think you can make your point without all the nastiness. I have called Mitt Romney and empty suit and liar. I have never called another poster a bad name. FYI...I am also from NorCal and wish you the best. I know President Obama would ask you to vote for him....without name calling !

                        God Bless America....vote !

                        • 9 votes
                        #16.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                        Patricia, right on. I wish there was more civility in political discourse. The thing that I don't like about the aggressive name-calling approach is that it makes people respond emotionally instead of logically. No good discussion comes from that. Do any of us even finish reading a post that starts out with a personal insult? Sigh. It's nice to meet another civil debater here on FR. There seems to be a growing number of us that want to discuss things logically.

                        Here's hoping for some nice weather for us on Tuesday!

                        • 4 votes
                        #16.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

                        NorCal...when the comment starts with an insult I stop reading. If the poster keeps it up, I put them on ignore. I think some of them are just here to insult each other. Others are intelligent and just passionate about their candidate/beliefs. I appreciate that.I really enjoy Jody Iowa, Frank Grimes, David Walker, Independent Redneck, Feisty ( yes I do enjoy reading her and love her passion !), Tomas Grande. Have you read Skip Nicholson Okla? Even if you don't agree with him, his writing is great. Weather is supposed to be good in Norcal Tuesday. My husband and I already voted absentee. Have a great weekend Norcal.

                        God Bless America...vote !

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.8 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                        thanks Patricia - I appreciate your positive attitude, too!

                        I don't put "the haters" on ignore, though - I mark them "inflammatory" & hope they get suspended. I am happy to listen to anyone's well-reasoned post, whether I agree with their position or not.

                        But like you, I am totally put off by the nastiness & name-calling.

                        wishing you a pleasant weekend :-)

                        • 3 votes
                        #16.9 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                        Thanks for the feedback KJNC. I don't mind reading posts that I disagree with. Those that I have on ignore are just usually offensive. I have taken 2 off of ignore recently...kind of like a test drive! I may take my politics to seriously sometime! I always enjoy your comments. You have a good weekend also :)

                        • 5 votes
                        #16.10 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:21 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Trickle Down Economics is change?

                        • 14 votes
                        Reply#17 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                        Well, maybe now we can stop hearing the question, "How ya'll liking that hopey-changey thing?" from the RWNJs since the Mittster has started parroting "hope" and "change". I may not totally agree with Obama on everything he has done in the past 4 years, but I do believe the country is better off than we were at the end of the Bush era. Mitt & Paul just want us to "change" BACK to the Bush era. Not the kind of change this country can afford. Yes, this election will be close - comparable to Bush/Gore in 2004. But, Obama/Biden will prevail. Even IF, by some chance, Romney were to win...the country's going nowhere during his term. He'll most likely have to face a Democratic majority in the Senate. Repubs will still be the majority in the House, but lose more than a few seats. Of course, MY Christmas present would be to be rid of Boehner/McConnell/Cantor...but, we know Santa Claus is not real.

                        • 15 votes
                        Reply#18 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                        I see Hussein is recycling the same old talking points from his last campaign and is STILL running against "the previous administration." Will someone please tell him that Bush is not on the ballots?

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#19 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                        Bush policies are on the ballot. Get a clue.

                        • 12 votes
                        #19.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                        Oscar -

                        Will someone please tell him that Bush is not on the ballots?

                        True, but his policies and advisors are.....

                        • 13 votes
                        #19.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                        Mr. Obama might not have to bring up the previous administration if Bush III weren't running against him this election. Romney clearly wants to run the country in the same manner that GW Bush ran it. His faux move to the "middle" is just that - fake. Romney will get us into a war with Iran, condone torture, be a puppet to Rove/Cheney/Norquist/Koch Brothers/Adelson, try to privatize Soc Security and Medicare, balloon up a military "the likes of which no other nation will challenge", etc., etc. Sound like anyone you know?

                        • 6 votes
                        #19.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                        That's true, Ed. Hussein has kept A LOT of Bush policies in place.

                        • 2 votes
                        #19.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                        I believe change is what The Mitt would give us and that is also what scares me to death. He is for the kind of change this Nation does not need. Set us back years! When he yells I will give you change...run to hills and hide.

                        Obama/Biden 2012

                        • 8 votes
                        #19.5 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                        75+% of Myth Robme's advisers are leftovers from the Bush admin . . . many of them neo-cons. That is ONE reasons why legitimately, "Bush is on the ballot"

                        On the other hand, Dubya is a paid speaker this weekend at an event in the Cayman Islands, teaching other 1%-ers how to off-shore their wealth and not pay their fair share of taxes . . . .

                        .

                        Bush's top-secret Cayman Islands speech: 'You're welcome, America'

                        http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/bushs-top-secret-cayman-islands-speech-youre-welcome-america.html/
                        .

                        YES, the last DEM president: on the campaign trail helping our President get re-elected.

                        and YES, the last REPUB president, in the Cyman Islands helping the wealthy get more wealthy, at the expense of the middle class . . . the 47% they don't care about.

                        .

                        O & JOE, 2012, Myth Robme, 1040's (because we KNOW he lied on his Mass taxes . . . so where are the tax returns, Myth?) :-)

                        • 7 votes
                        #19.6 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                        Yea, cause Bush is in the Caymans guarding Mitt's millions.

                        • 4 votes
                        #19.7 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:29 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        A blank check for military spending is change?

                        • 18 votes
                        Reply#20 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                        Who said blank check? One example is many of the MILSATCOM programs that the president is cutting back on pentagon requests.

                          #20.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:57 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          Change every five minutes, no doubt.

                          Romney: Believe in Nothing

                          • 20 votes
                          Reply#21 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                          The rich getting rich and the poor getting poorer is change?

                          • 15 votes
                          Reply#22 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                          I absolutely believe him when he says he promises change. I just don't want that kind of change.

                          • 17 votes
                          Reply#23 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                          LOL

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#24 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                          Maybe it is that "his adminstration will transparent" or "his adminstration will post every bill on line for 5 days" or his adminstraton will shut down Gitmo" or "his administration will not allow lobbyists to have access to the white house" or........................................................?

                          • 3 votes
                          #24.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:28 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          I think we can all agree that Mitt Romney can promise and deliver on change. He's changed his positions on so many issues in the last six months, I can't keep up with the change! I have NO IDEA what this guy really stands for or what he would do.

                          • 18 votes
                          Reply#25 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                          Kind of like I am with Obama after 4 years but Obama is a known while Romney isn't....just like
                          Obama was an unknown 4 years ago.

                          • 2 votes
                          #25.1 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                          Next week we will prove Corporate $$ can't buy the Presidency!!!!

                          • 12 votes
                          #25.2 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                          1) I would opt for the unknown, knowing what Barak have been doing in this country for the past 4 years.

                          2) Obama unknown is totally different... You don't know who he is... you don't know his past.

                          In that case people know Romney ALOT better.

                          Once you look into Obama's past, and what has happened in this country in the last 4 years, a person that wants us to suceed would change their vote to ...

                          Romney/Ryan 2012

                          • 4 votes
                          #25.3 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                          Real change Romney? Jah! Unsere letze hoffnung, Romney! Nobody really knew the guy with the funny moustache in 1935 either.

                          • 2 votes
                          #25.4 - Fri Nov 2, 2012 7:19 PM EDT
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