Here we go again. This poll again. As usual the liberal trolls are gonna get on here and lie and say that the debate changed their position to Obama.
As of now 67% of respondents have changed their mind to Obama even though about 4% of the remaining voters are undecided.
Plus did anyone notice how irritable the president seemed tonight. I can hardly count the number of times he interrupted Romney. He must have taken lessons from Joe Biden. Either way he didn't look Presidential. Not to mention, he flat out lied about Romney's position on Iraq, and his own attempts to sign a SOFA. But irregardless, in no time flat his loyal followers will be on here exclaiming how "presidential" he looked, and how he has already won the election. He might have had an edge in this debate, but he will pay for his lies and interruptions in the form of votes on Nov. 6th.
A short list of things the President was wrong about in the debate (and this is just off the top of my head).
He lied about Romney wanting to send troops to Iraq. Romney wanted a SOFA to let some troops remain, a SOFA which the Obama administration tried to negotiate as well. Pres. Obama lied by claiming he never wanted a SOFA.
He flat out lied about Romney's position on the auto bailout, not to mention he interrupted Romney multiple times as Romney tried to calmly explain why the President was wrong.
He made up some nonsense about bayonet's and Air Craft Carriers. Romney even pointed out that the Navy has requested additional ships so they can fulfill their missions, but Pres. Obama keeps saying the military "doesn't even want extra funding."
He accused Romney of wanting to cut funding for research, even though Pres. Obama's idea of "research" is bailing out failed energy companies.
There is so much more. That was just off the top of my head.
Please John Doe, take a chill pill. You know your man did poorly and President out shone him. Talk about looking Presidential - Obama does, when what he says really makes sense. I honestly think Romney babbled at one point. Try listening for a change, John Doe.
President Obama showed us tonight why he has earned four more years in the White House.
Romney looked like he was sweating and nauseated. He can't handle himself in a debate, and he would be far less effective going nose to nose with America's enemies around the world.
Heck, Romney couldn't even make a decent showing with our allies!
Yes, lying is Presidential. He had an edge in the debate but he didn't shine that brightly. Even the poll by CNN says that only 48% think Pres. Obama won the debate. Hmmm, maybe I'm not the only one who recognized his childishness.
Jeff? Do you even know how to copy and paste a link?
I am very good at math, so I did it in my head, then on paper, and finally on a calculator just to confirm my numerical capabilities. Each time I got the same answer, and sure enough it IS my very favorite Show EVER! DO NOT cheat and scroll down to the movies. Do YOUR math, THEN compare the results to the list of movies at the bottom. You will be AMAZED at how scary true and accurate this test is.
1. Pick a number from 1-9.
2. Multiply that number by 3.
3. Add 3.
4. Multiply by 3 again.
5. Your total will be a two digit number. Add the first and second digits together to find your favorite show (of alltime) in the list of 17 movies below: . . .
Movie List:
1. Gone With the Wind 2. E.T. 3. Blazing Saddles 4. Star Wars 5. Forrest Gump 6. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly 7. Jaws 8. Grease 9. Obama Farewell Speech of 2012 10. Casablanca 11. Jurassic Park 12. Shrek 13. Pirates of the Caribbean 14. Titanic 15. Raiders of the Lost Ark 16. Home Alone 17. Mrs. Doubtfire
John Doe: Please join the Marines again. You certainly won't meet any of Romney's sons. They are not that stupid to serve as cannon fodder as many of the lower economic classes have to do in order to make sort of a living.
What have you done Juno? Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard? Peace Corps? If I were to venture a guess, I would say none of the above.
I'll tell you what Juno, I am the 47% and I still vote for Romney. I vote for Romney because I care more about the future of this nation then I do about free money. Although I am certain that under Romney my veteran benefits will be secure.
Little known fact, Pres. Obama actually cut veteran's benefits. You ever heard of conservation of benefits under the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill. Not likely. Well, I was using it, up until about 2 years ago when the President himself signed the legislation that cut that entire program out. I know because I got the letter. The letter said "President Obama has signed the bill..." that cut my benefits. So when he gets on TV and says he cares about veterans I know from personal experience that it is all B.S.
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
Yes we still use bayonet's, but there are not that many of us anymore, Ronald Reagan and the republican congress started downsizing the military in 1981.
OMG Sailr! They do not issue ceremonial swords in COMABT! They DO issue bayonets in combat.
Ceremonial swords are for dress uniforms ONLY. Plus they do not issue them, you have to get your own and it is optional. I would never wear a bayonet with my dress blues uniform. That is just plain retarded.
If you have no idea what your talking about please refrain from making comments about what Marines are or are not issued.
Not many independents are blogging here how this debate made up their mind. Or, Obama was clever because of a Zinger, counting ships, but then in the next sentence mentions The U.S. Aircraft carriers and submarines)
Or, someone will vote for Obama and not Romney because he mentioned binders of women in the 2nd debate? HOW DO YOU SUGGEST A GOVERNOR OR THE HEAD OF A LARGE CORP. 10 YEARS LOOK AT 10,000 RESUMES, TWITTER, before it existed, or E-MAIL, 10,000 RESUMES in a attachment 10 YEARS AGO???)
Romney and Obama did not agree on Iran, Israel, the military, the economy, the auto bailout, N. Korea, Russia.
College graduates underemployed working at Starbucks are not broadcasting here that they will NOT be voting for Obama.
Mitt Romney has still not defined how he will improve the US economy over what Obama has managed to accomplish since the economic crash. This is likely because the Republican ideology is that market forces will automatically correct whenever they outsource our jobs. It appears that they need to believe this so that they can clear their conscious in order that it doesn’t plague them when their outsourcing destroys someone else’s livelihood.
Even as the economy began slowing mid-year in 2007, the GOP resisted taking significant efforts to stimulate the economy until the 2008 Presidential election forced the issue. They had ignored a 1-1/2 year window of opportunity in which they could have taken the appropriate action to prevent the Great Recession. Instead, they stood idly by while banks began to fail in early 2008, failing to realize that this previously untested ideology of the Free Market economy was seriously flawed. Great leadership is proactive leadership like Obama is displaying, not an attitude that it is OK for a select few to get filthy rich, at the expense of hard working Americans, and then everything will somehow turn out OK.
When you cannot run on facts, run on superstition and conjecture. Invent yourself an enemy that does not exist. Otherwise, how else do we plan on voting President Blackie McBlackington out of office and restoring the "white" in White House?
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called for the banning of Instagram today, apparently under the misapprehension that the popular photo sharing app is used for measuring quantities of illegal street drugs.
The former Massachusetts governor was speaking at a retirement home in Florida, part of a last-minute campaign swing before Monday's presidential debate.
He used the opportunity to discuss crime and substance abuse - issues that have not featured prominently in the campaign thus far, but disproportionately worry older voters.
Fast Beautiful Highs
Romney took a tough no-tolerance stance, claiming Obama has overseen an unsettling relaxation of drug policy:
"This country is seeing an epidemic of drug use and drug related violence. Thousands of kids are dying every week from marijuana overdoses and heroin fueled mass shootings."
"And its not just in the bad neighborhoods. Kids from good backgrounds are getting caught up too."
"I've just heard about this application - a mobile application for your iPhone And what you do is place a small amount of cocaine, or marijuana, or PCP on top of your phone and the application instantly tells you how many grams you have."
"Its called Instagram. And do you know what the really scary thing is people? I'm told this instant drug measurement tool is the 9th most downloaded app for the iPhone." Filter Madness
"I visited the University of Florida recently. And everyone in the halls was talking about their Instagrams and how much they were sharing their 'dope pics' with their friends. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Under Obama dope has become an acceptable part of the culture."
Romney then tried to link this imaginary drug problem to Obama's economic policies, and suggested a Romney alternative:
"This is what the youth of Obama's America look like. Out of work. Up to their eyeballs in debt. And hopeless, they turn to their Instagrams to sell and consume drugs."
"Well when I am President we'll get our kids off their iPhones and into good paying jobs. And then we must ban this Instagram tomake it harder for our children to fall into the trap of illegal substances
See it as you would like Cocomoe, it doesn't change the fact that the President was unable, throughout the entire debate, to hold his tongue. How does a lack of impulse control = strong leadership?
Prior to spending 2 weeks being prepped by foreign policy experts Romney probably couldn't have found Libya on a map. His foreign policy when unscripted was his first over seas trip as a candidate where he forgot the name the leader of our closest ally and then insulted them leading to headlines of Mitt the Twit.
I served in the Army. I was honorably discharged as a lieutenant. However, I do not qualify for your veteran's benefits. And luckily I don't need them.
I came to this country 50 years ago and I made a good living.
I think I know what war is. In February of 1945 when the second world war was practically over, bombers came overhead and my home town was 95% destroyed. The town had 80000 inhabitants. In 20 minutes 17000 were dead. My mother and I were miraculously dug out from the rubble alive. My father was killed in that war.
So, if you did not guess it, I served in the West German Army, and that service inside NATO kept me from being drafted into the US Army. At that time legal immigrants could be drafted into the US Army without being US citizens.
However, I do wish we had the draft again, so that sons of the political and economic elite would have to do some service for this country. Sons like Romney's sons.
Most people consider a draft warmongering/evil. Especially liberals. What service has Pres. Obama ever done? He has served nobody but himself. His loyalty does not lie with the United States. His loyalties are elsewhere, and that is the number one reason he should not be President.
Holding his tongue? Y'all crucified the President in the first debate for doing just that. Remember that first debate where Romney babbled excruciatingly like a schoolgirl propositioning a date for the prom? He batted his eyes over and over again as he refused to obey rules or allow anybody else to get a word in. I swear I thought he even curtsied once or twice showing off his pretty pink panties to prove he was a cheap date.
Romney's performance tonight exemplified why we must re-elect the President. He reversed himself once again and embraced every foreign policy of the President. Romney IS that cheap date.
He will screw your sister and mine. Your mother and mine. Hell, he'll even screw you and me as well as our brothers and fathers if we only make him President. Send this cheap *hore back to Bain where he belongs.
Can you imagine how many ships that 1917 Navy would have traded for just two nuclear subs or two loaded aircraft carriers? Every one of them. What a very foolish comparison.
CBS poll says Romney lost the last debate as badly as Obama lost the first debate (-30% among independents). It was Romney's rope a dope, and he never came off the ropes in the eighth round. He just got pounded, and he looked kind of pathetic with no real punches and just trying to get in on the good stuff Obama has done. His big retort was something like, "Yeah, that was grand - but I would have done even more - uh - even better." And, don't you love, "No more Iraq's, we don't need that." Of course, he forgets that he ALWAYS supported the war in Iraq. But don't worry, that cabal of military contractors supporting him won't let him forget if he gets elected. When you are talking new theater capability for the Navy, you are talking ungodly sums of money. That's why all the blood and money merchants favor Romney.
Prior to spending 2 weeks being prepped by foreign policy experts Romney probably couldn't have found Libya on a map. His foreign policy when unscripted was his first over seas trip as a candidate where he forgot the name the leader of our closest ally and then insulted them leading to headlines of Mitt the Twit.
Provide some sources on what your saying. I call BS on your post.
Among many of JohnDoe's recent babbling, this was spotted:
Most people consider a draft warmongering/evil. Especially liberals. What service has Pres. Obama ever done? He has served nobody but himself. His loyalty does not lie with the United States. His loyalties are elsewhere, and that is the number one reason he should not be President.
You might want to look at Obama's financial disclosures. Ya see, unlike Mitt, Obama has up to 10 million dollars invested in US Treasury notes and bonds, earning a meager 1.7%. If that is not faith and loyalty in the U.S., JohnDoe is a blowhard.
You cannot say Romney changed positions when you have always paid more attention to what Obama says about Romney's positions.
Although Obama showed that he has a much greater understanding than in 2008, his positions are actually wrong. Here's why I say that.
His administration wants to give us the illusion that Al Qaeda is vanquished when it has taken large parts of at least three countries after we kicked them out of two.
His misdirections and misrepresentations in Bengazi. It does not matter that he said about terrorist attacks in his next day speach, he still presented only a video as a cause for 14 days before admitting it probably was an 911 style attack.
RE: Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
The best response is in the comments section of that very article.
Per Error404me
There are no points in this article that voters care about unless you have vast stock portfolios. Household income is down 7.2% since December 2007. Unemployment picture is horrible and looking to get worse as far as I can tell, especially with the Bush tax cuts about to expire and Obamacare taxes/regs to kick in January. God knows what these EPA regs are going to do as well. Just when the new president sorts this out, either in January or 2016 we will then have a serious debt problem. Which by 2019 debt service will be the governements #1 expense lol.
When Wrongme was not stuttering or trying to misinform, he was agreeing with the current and past policies of the President. He was very much out of his element. If this Wrongme guy somehow gets into office, the country is in serious trouble.
hs321....the reason you're voting for Romney has nothing to do with his ability to assume the office of president. You're like most Romney voters who didn't even wait a single day after the President took office to begin railroading him out. It's called hatred and bigotry. Most of the people who will vote for Romney are white men who think like you...with their SMALL head.
It is very obvious that a lot of people hate President Obama. As I have been saying all along, this president is damned if he does right, damned if he does wrong.
I have asked Romney supporters on the street, what has Mitt Romney done in the last 6 years to help solve the problems in this country? All I hear is a Ralph Cramden immitation of " humm ma na humm ma na humm ma na "
He wants the job of president, I believe it is a fair interview question ?
I can't believe anything that comes out of Romney's mouth. Flip flop on all issues, copies what our president says to appease real people. When in fact we know Romney is wolf in sheep's clothing.
Anyone that was undecided before the debate last night should not be allowed to vote. What I find hilarious are those individuals posting on here slamming Romney with the same chanting mantra I've heard for the past year. It's like being in an echo chamber. As if any of your posts will convince anyone to vote for Obama. Maybe it's therapeutic? Kinda like primal screaming? What I did notice, while accidentally landing on a channel that was carrying the debate, was the way their positions seemed juxtaposed. It was like Obama was the challenger and Romney was President.
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
Provide some sources on what your saying. I call BS on your post.
STC1993: Ok.
He'd already questioned the preparedness of Britain to host the Olympic Games and today Mitt Romney added to the gaffe-count of his UK visit by appearing to forget Ed Miliband's name during a press conference.
Speculation on the social networking site Twitter was centered on whether Mr Romney had forgotten the Labour leader's name - or didn't in fact know it in the first place.
At a press conference the possible-future-president of the United States referred to Ed Miliband as 'Mr Leader'.
And here:
WANNABE president Mitt Romney infuriated Prime Minister David Cameron yesterday by making a string of embarrassing blunders.
The US election hopeful, on a visit to London, questioned whether the Olympics will be a success.
Mr Romney said in a TV interview: “It’s hard to know just how well it will turn out. There are a few things that were disconcerting.”
The Republican candidate, who organised the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, also questioned whether the British people will “come together and celebrate” the Olympics.
There was further embarrassment when Mr Romney said he had looked out of “the backside of Number 10” to see the beach volleyball court.
And:
Senator John Kerry, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, issued a memo today expressing concern about Governor Mitt Romney’s foreign policy chops in which he listed 6 questions Romney must answer in Monday night’s debate. He wrote, “Romney, who once even said ‘a president is not a foreign policy expert,’ appears unprepared to be either.”
Kerry points out that the Romney Ryan ticket is devoid of foreign policy experience, at a time when we need a steady hand. “We live in a complicated world and need a leader who understands that complexity – and who has the right values to keep our country safe, promote our principles overseas, and confront the biggest challenges we face.”
Here we go again. This poll again. As usual the liberal trolls are gonna get on here and lie and say that the debate changed their position to Obama.
As of now 67% of respondents have changed their mind to Obama even though about 4% of the remaining voters are undecided.
Plus did anyone notice how irritable the president seemed tonight. I can hardly count the number of times he interrupted Romney. he must have tried to take some lessons from Joe Biden. Either way he didn't look Presidential. Not to mention, he flat out lied about Romney's position on Iraq, and his own attempts to sign a SOFA. But irregardless, in no time flat his loyal followers will be on here exclaiming how "presidential" he looked, and how he has already won the election. He might have had an edge in this debate, but he will pay for his lies and interruptions in the form of votes on Nov. 6th.
No, I didn't notice how irritable Obama was tonight. They were both well-mannered. Obama didn't let Romney get away with false claims and unchallenged flip-flops, however. That may "sound" like an interruption to a Romney supporter, but all were fair challenges, and the moderator kept the interruptions to a minimum on the parts of both. Good debate. Mitt sat back too much, Obama took charge (but he's got the experience and really knows what he's talking about on foreign issues). IMO, Obama clearly "won" the debate.
How much change did you see from what Obama campaigned on in 2008? I didn't see anything, he lied on every single thing he promised to change. With a leader like that he can keep his change I'll vote for anyone but Obama.
John Doe: The problem with your "liberal troll" theory is that it also applies to the Republican side of the poll in that there aren't that many undecided voters either, and I'm sure you were singing a different tune after the first debate when Romney's numbers were substantially higher on this exact same poll.
Can't dismiss something just because you disagree with it. :-)
John Doe-2241225, it appears from the short comments at the top that practically ALL the respondents to the poll whose opinions weren't effected either way by the debate were already decided on voting for Obama.
Larry, you need to look at the debate again if you think Obama was presidential in the 1st debate something is wrong with you. He looked like he knew he was getting his ass handed to him.
Obama was very Presidential in the first debate and likely thought that the press would have a field day with Mitt's replies and behavior. However it's now a world of WWF smack-down mentality, which placed Obama in the position of having to keep Mitt honest during the debate.
I've never been so proud and relieved during this election as I am tonight. President Obama called out the creepy, shape shifting vulture capitalist and soundly spanked him.
He exposed him for the fraud he really is. I am hoping undecideds will flock to Obama for safety.
Obama had to be shocked in the first debate at the Mitt Romney that showed up. We haven't seen that Mitt before. Like Ann Romney said on The View - Mitt ran as a moderate and pro choice for governor because that is what he had to do to win. But after the election, he went back to being severely conservative and pro life. That's the Mitt we are seeing now. The Mitt who will say anything to get elected.
So if President Obama lied in 2008 as you believe, you would accept being lied to by Governor Romney in 2012, for years down the road in 2016. After all, as you said, they are politicians, they all say anything to get elected.
How much change did you see from what Obama campaigned on in 2008? I didn't see anything, he lied on every single thing he promised to change. With a leader like that he can keep his change I'll vote for anyone but Obama.
Not much point in arguing with you because you seem to live in some warped transdimensional timespace.
But I do have one question:
What colour is the sky on your world? Would it be white?
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
Yeah, how stupid of a comment was that. There is no analogy between ships in the navy and horses. That's going to come back to bite Obama. What a moron.
Yea,, he asked the admirals how many ships of the line they needed and they said: We don't need 1400 four masted man of wars anymore, but we could use a aircraft carrier. DUH.
The tonnage of the U.S. Navy exceeds the combined tonnage of the next 17 largest. To think we drastically need to increase it despite military requests sounds absurd.
If one of our carries or one of our subs were a nation as far as might goes, they would be in the top 10 and we have more then one of each. F##k with them and your gone
GHX, the US committed an amphibious assault carrier and its escort during the Libyan intervention.
The Iraq Air War was conducted primarily from one aircraft carrier, along with long-range sorties by bombers.
Do you understand how freaking big and powerful aircraft carriers are? Why do you think so many ships are committed to escorting them? It's not because they don't have their own defenses, you know.
Yeah, how stupid of a comment was that. There is no analogy between ships in the navy and horses.
Is it? Romney's main talking point was that our navy is smaller than it was in 1916. Consider the state of the art in 1916. Is there one battleship from that era that could stand up to our modern ships?
No, that comment was spot-on!
We have the most powerful navy (for that matter, any military arm) in the world. What we need are smarter leaders for it. The last Republican administration wasn't it! And neither is Mitt Romney!
You all have gotten too crazy and too extreme for me.
This is like being in a room full of children who just ate a giant sized chocolate bar and washed it down with a case of Monster. It's all shouting and screaming and very little understanding or listening.
For those Repoblicans that were really following the debate last night - Romney was try to justify his 2 Trillion dollar (Conservative, small government price tag) that he wanted to add to the National debt (without saying exactly how he is going to pay for it). He would spend the money building more naval ships because he thinks we should have 330 and we currently only have 285 - which he then compared to the same level as in 1916???
So - that is when he got his @$$ handed to him - it not about quantity Romney. It is about quality and high tech. Can anyone out there tell me how many nations can launch and recover simultaniously via aircraft carrier????
Yeah just like the liar in chief has been lying about Benghazi; and is unwilling to call the Ft Hood shooter a terrorist. Let's not mention the cover up on Fast and Furious, and pressuring companies to neglect the WARNact by not letting defense manufacturing employees know of impending cuts. You call that integrity?
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
If we build a new carrier but deactivate 50 obsolete PT boats Romney thinks our naval power is less. If you scrap 100 muskets but buy 50 M-16's it's still an upgrade.
Romney showed great depth in his foreign policy knowledge. Obama merely stuck to speaking points and superficial comments. Romney clearly won the debate on substance and will win the election.
RegularGuy40, C'mon Tagg. We know it's you. It's socially acceptable to write a flattering obituary before the guy actually dies. It is not acceptable to write a flattering opinion of a speaker before he speaks. President Obama did it again. Has sparring with Mom improved your right hook?
Mitt doesn't even know when he's lying anymore, its truly unbelievable. His depth of foreign policy is a step off the curb at best.
President Obama stuck to facts, and his track record with his administration. Maybe if the congressional republicans would get out of the way we could prosper as a nation together.
Romney looked like a kid up against a seasoned pro, are you kidding, Romney clearly is lost when it comes to foreign policy. He looks good on camera, he seems like-able, but he spews out lie after lie, he wants to help everyone, Bull@!$%# man, this guys a poster child for whats wrong with America today greed and more greed. He's going down and cheating with election counting devices is your only hope.
Fox news=Romney won
MSNBC News=Obama won
polls are a joke.
I go by the facts and track records, and Mitts track record is dismantling jobs to send companies overseas and layoff the workers to make a profit. he's for the rich upper classman, fact. yet he lies about wanting to help the middle class, get real Mitt, were not that stupid.
President Obama clearly won this debate too, on facts and actual hello descriptions of his course of action. Mitt knows how to fix everything, yet gives not one fk'n explanations as to how to achieve those goals.
rhetoric monkey man, etch a sketch, frikin' flip flopper, f'n chameleon if you ask me. who is Mitt Romney and what does he stand for, he's got me totally confused, lol I want him far far away from the nuclear codes and the whitehouse. We need real leadership in these critical times. We've dug our way out of their mess and we need to keep driving forward to fix this beautiful country once again. its a damn merry go round, what a joke.....
President Obama/Vice Biden 2012! Thank god. Maybe we can finally climb out of this recession caused by the republican party during, Reagan,George Bush Sr., George Bush Jr. Clinton got us a surplus and the republicans totally destroyed it, only to blame the democrats yet again, we're watching we're not stupid, and we vote!
Wow... You liberals need to look somewhere else than at the B.S. NBC shovels at you some time.
RegularGuy is 100% correct. Romney won AGAIN on everything of substance.
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
What are you saying? You say that like being black somehow lends credibility to the President. Guess what, voting for the President just because he is black is defined in one word. Prejudice, and as liberals are so anxious to point out, prejudice is dangerous.
sailr69 - Your inability to understand basic capilization or chose the correct words for a sentence, along with your pointless and empty stance, are reasons for NOT allowing Democrats in any office where they can buy votes.
Romney proves once again that he will say anything he thinks is necessary to close the deal -- makes no difference whether he agrees or disagrees with what he said yesterday.
Just the idea of possibly having a vice president that looks like Darrin Stephens gives me the creeps. Especially if by some misfortune he becomes the President.
Ah... voting based on looks... what a Liberal thing to do.
Perhaps a vice president that makes ridiculous statements and acts like a strung-out clown in a debate would be slightly more dangerous than your thought of someone looking like someone.
"the middle class has been buried the last 4 years"
And of course republicans never say anything foolish or said badly.
“Everything changes,” Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom famously said on CNN in March. “It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again.”
Mitt Romney has announced his election running mate – but blundered by introducing him as 'the next president of the United States'
"Corporations are people, my friend," Romney told a heckler
"And had he been born of Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this. But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. I mean, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino
he "likes being able to fire people,"
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said he thinks it is "fair" that he pays a lower tax rate on his investment income of $20 million last year than someone who made $50,000 annually.
How many jobs did he create with the 100 million stashed in Bermuda because of his low rates?
A short list of things the President was wrong about in the debate (and this is just off the top of my head).
He lied about Romney wanting to send troops to Iraq. Romney wanted a SOFA to let some troops remain, a SOFA which the Obama administration tried to negotiate as well. Pres. Obama lied by claiming he never wanted a SOFA.
He flat out lied about Romney's position on the bailout, not to mention he interrupted Romney multiple times as Romney tried to calmly explain why the President was wrong.
He made up some nonsense about bayonet's and Air Craft Carriers. Romney even pointed out that the Navy has requested additional ships so they can fulfill their missions, but Pres. Obama keeps saying the military "doesn't even want extra funding."
He accused Romney of wanting to cut funding for research, even though Pres. Obama's idea of "research" is bailing out failed energy companies.
Oh, and there is so much more. That was just off the top of my head.
Mitt's "Apology Tour" thing was rated a Pants On Fire on Politifact, but he stuck with that one again tonight. He also got a Pants On Fire for his comments about the size of the military.
The SOFA to leave no troops in Iraq was an agreement reached between Iraq and G.W. Bush prior to Obama ever taking office, and would take effect unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement. They weren't. Obama wanted to leave some troops there to train, but was not able to because the Iraqi government refused. Obama did not try to obtain a new SOFA to change that, which would have been against the desires of the Iraqis. See "Iraq's Government, Not Obama, Called Time on U.S. Troop Presence" by Time magazine Oct. 21, 2011.
So there you go. You posted this multiple times and were wrong each time you posted it.
my vote goes to mitt romney all the way. he is the one who sees the biggest problem of all and that is jobs... i feel terrible for all of the workers in the construction field. my friend was a general contractor here in florida and i just went to his funeral for shooting himself. left 4 kids behind. mitt.......you got my vote!
Single Mother-Maybe if the Republicans in Congress had bothered to vote on the "Jobs Bill" Obama put forth your friend would have had a construction job.
I'm sorry to hear of your loss but it is best to look deeper into the President's record to get America back to work than you see and hear on Fox News.
And listening to FOX news does not make you a racist. I listen to all of them and the Democrats on FOX news sound very factual and intelligent, rather than hostile, vicious and stupid.
The bayonet analogy was spot on. Out country isn't weaker because 50 PT boats are deactivated being obsolete and 1 new carrier built. Our Navy has been built for 40 years based on firepower, ability to project power and tonnage not quantity. A policy done at the request of naval leaders. Romney should know that.
Too bad he lost on everything that mattered and hurt his own likeability doing it:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
my vote goes to mitt romney all the way. he is the one who sees the biggest problem of all and that is jobs... i feel terrible for all of the workers in the construction field. my friend was a general contractor here in florida and i just went to his funeral for shooting himself. left 4 kids behind. mitt.......you got my vote!
A single mother: I'd venture to guess you have no idea of Romney's jobs idea's. I'd suggest reading his 59 point plan carefully. Google Romney 59 point.
Romney intends to allow 1.25 million high tech workers premanent worker status citing a shortage in those fields. Unemployment numbers in those fields are double what they were prior to the recession. This will merely flood the country with foreign workers willing to work for less than Americans even though millions are still unemployed in those fields. A vulture capitalists dream. Romney claims these new workers will create support jobs for Americans like selling them big macs and ringing up purchases at Wal Mart.
Romney intends to remove caps on H1B visa's and even mentioned in the second debate that he'd like to staple a green card on foreign students diploma's that achieved the top 20% of their class.. The net affect would be students for every high paying job in the country would then be not only competing with graduating Americans but most other countries. The effect of such a policy would gradually reduce wages for high paying jobs like doctors, surgeons. architects, engineers, dentists and most any profession you can think of. A policy designed to promote cheap labor for business. Romney promised to create 12 million jobs but didn't say they'd be filled by Americans.
A presentation was all it was. He said some of the same things four years ago and did nothing. He'll do nothing again...except take us further into the poor house.
Uhhhh, actually Layton......we have MORE bayonets. Most combat soldiers are issued one. President Obama's scripted one-line zinger missed it's mark. He was wrong.
As a navy vet, i can see what Gov. Romney is trying to do by saying that he is going to beef up our Defense budget and increase the number of ships in our fleet. What he is trying to do is to BUY the votes in Virginia! Virginia is home to several DoD bases and the largest naval station in america. Also, it is a swing state.
Sorry Romney, but in a democratic nation people cannot be bought - unless you work for congress of course...
Or Nathan Sproul. Romney has a better plan. Buying the voting machines in Ohio and many other key states.
The website claims that Romney owns an interest in Hart Intercivic voting machines which will be used to calculate votes in Hamilton County. If true, this raises serious questions as there were a number of red flags during the 2004 campaign that saw George Bush defeat John Kerry. Some politicos still call into question the 2004 election for strange calculations that Diebold voting machines, who had openly supported Bush, came up with that November.
PoliticolNews.com writes:
As Lee Fang points out in his detailed analysis of the Romney investments
“Many of these private equity–owned companies rely on federal and state contracts, from HIG Capital’s Hart Intercivic, a voting machine company, to EnviroFoam Technologies, a biological and chemical decontamination firm that does business with the US military and is owned by Peterson Partners, a private equity firm listed in the Solamere prospectus.”
Solarmere’s tangled web of investments now includes Hart Intercivic voting machines which will be used in Cincinnati Ohio says Truth Out which could guarantee Mitt Romney the White House.
The State of Ohio is Ground Zero for the White House, in particular Hamilton County a repeat of the George Bush election in 2004
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
Anyone with a brain can see Obama performed like a 5 year old. He didn't have any answers to the real problem and Mitt outlined everything. The "apologizer" is going down!
Ali, how would you act if your presidential opponent who you've been running against for months turned out to be - you. How can the president say anything of significance if after every question Mr. Romney agreed and said that it was, in fact, what he has been trying to say all along.
The funny thing though is that on MSNBC.COM they showed a clip of the republican primaries where Romney, standing along side his fellow republicans, was asked his opinion about foreign affairs, and answered opposite to most of the ideals that he seems to have learned today...
It is time for a man with morals, a Christian leader with a spine who is not starstruck and trivializing. Obama can still vacation 24/7 and he will have a handsome pension, so not to worry. He wasn't going to keep his lying promises to you again anyway.
Sharon please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, a lying mormon, that's what he is , dig deep, do your research honey, know what these people(mormons), really believe, stop just looking at he's white, because over half of these replublican did not want him the first time around because of that fact (mormon), but now they just want a white face, and a lying one at that. Christian with morals, GIRL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, they are politicians.
my heart is in this thing we need our potus to continue for four more years Mitt does not have our best interest ,we all need to be aware of what he will do if elected . let us all be vigilate of our life , hell what mitt willard plans to do ,not only just for his boys to take over the white house but what he plans to eliminate from us and everything we have survived through. My goodness to repeal the affordable care act how many of us can go to the doctor without going to the E.R. Please think about it and what ever you decide we need our President to resume his duty and bring us simply said forward to where we can go and where we need to be . When keeping it real goes wrong OH YES we will have a problem......
And hopefully we'll fill up Congress and the Senate with a majority of Democrats and Obama will be able to get done what needs to be w/o having Republicans filibuster.
Everyone needs to fact check and decide wisely when voting as this may be the most important election you ever vote in.
And hopefully we'll fill up Congress and the Senate with a majority of Democrats and Obama will be able to get done what needs to be w/o having Republicans filibuster.
Everyone needs to fact check and decide wisely when voting as this may be the most important election you ever vote in.
Obama wasted his first two years when he could have passed anything he wanted. Obamacare down our throats when no one wanted it. ALL his energy when no one had even read the foot tall stack of paper. A Chicago thug with no heart. Jeremiah Wright, no transparency, and turning back the clock to the 60's in race relations nationwide. I am ashamed he could have made an impact and proved something we all wanted. Instead he was lazy and hate-mongering and now has the blind, loyal vote although he will repeat the same incompetency. The dumbing down of America.
I like Romney's Monday position, hate his Tuesday position, not sure how I feel about his Wednesday position, don't understand his Thursday position, am frightened about his Friday position, and am hiding out all weekend! Will he start all over again next week? No core, no depth, no substance, no consistency, no President.
his positions are so crazy that we all need to be running to the voting booth to make sure that we are secure .if he disrespect our President on t.v. just think what he will do behind White House doors
Ask yourself this, is the world a safer place to live than it was 4 years ago? If you answer yes, then you need to pull your head out of the ground. Having traveled much, I feel less safe, and find foreigners have far less respect for us as Americans. Now ask yourself this, are you better off today than 4 years ago. We cannot afford another 4 years. But we will get what we ask for. Give the new guys a chance. At least his track record is positive. If he can make billions for himself, why can't he make trillions for America.
I travel weekly out of the country. Plus, I was a near-miss 9-11 (they hit an aircraft near my own at Dulles).
Think I'm qualified to say it is way safer now, than four years ago? It is, believe me. We were widely ridiculed in the world, back then. Not so much, now. Statistics will support me on that one (for one, terrorists haven't dove airplanes into buildings, that I know of).
I feel safer too and more respected. On recent travels to Europe and Africa, everybody we encountered wanted Obama re-elected and think Romney doesn't have a clue.
Frank Lowell... r u serious ? The gov't is NOT a business. The only way RMoney knows how to make a profit is by DESTROYING businesses and leaving the owners and shareholders holding the bag while he robs them blind. ,
"Give the new guys a chance"... LMFAO !! These are not "new" guys. They're the same OLD guys that got us into this mess to begin with. They have NO vision for the future and want to drag us back into another century... the 1800s.
Continued from last post...... They would be perfectly happy to take us back to the days of Robber Barons and women who should be seen but not heard and have absolutely ZERO rights. NO THANK YOU. I will NEVER vote for a party that wants to turn this country into a THEOCRATIC FASCIST OLIGARCHY. The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves as it is knowing the TEAPUBLICANS are destroying their beautiful SECULAR REPUBLIC which is supposed to be governed FOR THE COMMON GOOD of the people. Something the RW is VEHEMENTLY against.
I voted for Obama in 2008, but there is no way I can vote for this president again. This president has proven to be the extremist the right has repeatedly claimed he is. I ignored all of this rhetoric in 2008 thinking they were full of it and that there is no way that the American people would elect a president that extreme, but they were right. This president has repeatedly bashed the private sector-"you didn't build that" is one good example. He also talks of taxing the rich into poverty in hopes of helping the poor he claims to care about(nevermind that the right holds the monopoly on private charitable giving), he has intruded on our religious freedom, he is a narcissist, he takes credit for stuff he didn't do, he lies, he cheats, etc. I am also sick of hearing the race card be played everytime someone disagrees with this president. Most importantly, our defecit is more than $6 trillion higher than before Obama took office, gas prices are also much higher than before Obama took office, food prices are much higher, there is more people out of work and underemployed, our credit rating is lower, our standing in the world is much lower, the majority of Americans don't support Obama's failed, high taxing healthcare law. Romney does have a plan if you liberals would actually go and read his campaign page instead of listening to liberal spin. He also has private business experience which the economy needs, not someone who wants to tell hard working business owners that they "didn't build that" and try to socialize their business.
In the first debate there was feisty Mitt, the second debate there was the stumbling Mitt, in the third debate there was the invisible Mitt who had no clue as to what his positions were or are or to be. He sounded like a winy namby-pamby tea bagger pantywaist that lost his way and couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
I was waiting for the men in the white coats with the big net to tackle romney. this guy is a loony toon. he needs help
"We can't kill ourselves out this mess.."
Two minutes later ....
"My strategy is to kill them, to go after the bad guys and take them out of the picture."
So goes Mr. Flip and Flop!
Obama/Biden 2012
Pres. Obama wins by a knockout against Mitt.
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The only INTERNATIONAL experience Mitt has ever had is that he once had a dinner at the INTERNATIONAL House of Packakes.
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At IHOP, he was trying to experience what the bottom 47% eat, and he didn't like it - remember?? - he has come out against the 47%.
Here we go again. This poll again. As usual the liberal trolls are gonna get on here and lie and say that the debate changed their position to Obama.
As of now 67% of respondents have changed their mind to Obama even though about 4% of the remaining voters are undecided.
Plus did anyone notice how irritable the president seemed tonight. I can hardly count the number of times he interrupted Romney. He must have taken lessons from Joe Biden. Either way he didn't look Presidential. Not to mention, he flat out lied about Romney's position on Iraq, and his own attempts to sign a SOFA. But irregardless, in no time flat his loyal followers will be on here exclaiming how "presidential" he looked, and how he has already won the election. He might have had an edge in this debate, but he will pay for his lies and interruptions in the form of votes on Nov. 6th.
A short list of things the President was wrong about in the debate (and this is just off the top of my head).
He lied about Romney wanting to send troops to Iraq. Romney wanted a SOFA to let some troops remain, a SOFA which the Obama administration tried to negotiate as well. Pres. Obama lied by claiming he never wanted a SOFA.
He flat out lied about Romney's position on the auto bailout, not to mention he interrupted Romney multiple times as Romney tried to calmly explain why the President was wrong.
He made up some nonsense about bayonet's and Air Craft Carriers. Romney even pointed out that the Navy has requested additional ships so they can fulfill their missions, but Pres. Obama keeps saying the military "doesn't even want extra funding."
He accused Romney of wanting to cut funding for research, even though Pres. Obama's idea of "research" is bailing out failed energy companies.
There is so much more. That was just off the top of my head.
Barack O'Romney just debated with Barack Obama.
Obama and the rest of the United States went collectively, "WTF?"
So Romney's tactic in defeating Obama is to agree with his policies? WTF?
*rubs eyes, pinches self*
Damn, I am awake!
Oh you KNOW the Republican base will be questioning. That's a for-sure...
Please John Doe, take a chill pill. You know your man did poorly and President out shone him. Talk about looking Presidential - Obama does, when what he says really makes sense. I honestly think Romney babbled at one point. Try listening for a change, John Doe.
Sorry Obama
The Marines still use bayonets .
It is now OFFICIAL!
Mitt Romney's Campaign Theme
www.//youtu.be/l-lJZiqZaGA
They're coming to take me away
Hahaaa!
President Obama showed us tonight why he has earned four more years in the White House.
Romney looked like he was sweating and nauseated. He can't handle himself in a debate, and he would be far less effective going nose to nose with America's enemies around the world.
Heck, Romney couldn't even make a decent showing with our allies!
VOTE OBAMA/ BIDEN
FOUR MORE YEARS!!
Yes, lying is Presidential. He had an edge in the debate but he didn't shine that brightly. Even the poll by CNN says that only 48% think Pres. Obama won the debate. Hmmm, maybe I'm not the only one who recognized his childishness.
Jeff? Do you even know how to copy and paste a link?
Superb! Excellent! Masterful!
Mitt, you were so Presidential. I can't wait to call you "Mr. President!"
Hooray for the USA!!
Ontor: Bayonets ???? Are you or the Marines still in the middle ages ???
A math quiz for all you obama supporters
Reveals your favorite Movie!
I am very good at math, so I did it in my head, then on paper, and finally on a calculator just to confirm my numerical capabilities.
Each time I got the same answer, and sure enough it IS my very favorite Show EVER!
DO NOT cheat and scroll down to the movies. Do YOUR math, THEN compare the results to the list of movies at the bottom. You will be AMAZED at how scary true and accurate this test is.
1. Pick a number from 1-9.
2. Multiply that number by 3.
3. Add 3.
4. Multiply by 3 again.
5. Your total will be a two digit number. Add the first and second digits together to find your favorite show (of alltime) in the list of 17 movies below:
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Movie List:
1. Gone With the Wind
2. E.T.
3. Blazing Saddles
4. Star Wars
5. Forrest Gump
6. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
7. Jaws
8. Grease
9. Obama Farewell Speech of 2012
10. Casablanca
11. Jurassic Park
12. Shrek
13. Pirates of the Caribbean
14. Titanic
15. Raiders of the Lost Ark
16. Home Alone
17. Mrs. Doubtfire
Isn't this amazing?!!!
123juno,
Marines still use Bayonets. I was issued one when I went to Iraq and Afghanistan. And there were incidents where Marines had to use them.
Seriously Juno, liberals don't need your helping looking stupid.
John Doe: you are just as dumb as Jeff
CODE FOR: "Romney got his a$$ handed to him but I will come up with a lame insult to deflect."
:)
It has to maddening to try to have a conversation/debate with someone who has Romnesia.
When you start talking about the poll then you know your a loser. 58% on CBS and only 23% thought Romney won this debate. See you in 4 years.
Your the one who has no clue what your talking about Juno, calling me stupid doesn't change that.
John Doe: Please join the Marines again. You certainly won't meet any of Romney's sons. They are not that stupid to serve as cannon fodder as many of the lower economic classes have to do in order to make sort of a living.
What have you done Juno? Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard? Peace Corps? If I were to venture a guess, I would say none of the above.
I'll tell you what Juno, I am the 47% and I still vote for Romney. I vote for Romney because I care more about the future of this nation then I do about free money. Although I am certain that under Romney my veteran benefits will be secure.
Little known fact, Pres. Obama actually cut veteran's benefits. You ever heard of conservation of benefits under the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill. Not likely. Well, I was using it, up until about 2 years ago when the President himself signed the legislation that cut that entire program out. I know because I got the letter. The letter said "President Obama has signed the bill..." that cut my benefits. So when he gets on TV and says he cares about veterans I know from personal experience that it is all B.S.
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
@ONTOR,
Yes we still use bayonet's, but there are not that many of us anymore, Ronald Reagan and the republican congress started downsizing the military in 1981.
Msgt USMC Retired
marines, bayonnets? come on, they also give them cerimonial swords. I am sure they need them as well.
Not only are we issued bayonets but we know how to use them.They are very useful tools in the hands of Marines.
OMG Sailr! They do not issue ceremonial swords in COMABT! They DO issue bayonets in combat.
Ceremonial swords are for dress uniforms ONLY. Plus they do not issue them, you have to get your own and it is optional. I would never wear a bayonet with my dress blues uniform. That is just plain retarded.
If you have no idea what your talking about please refrain from making comments about what Marines are or are not issued.
$8.00 a gallon gasoline
$23,000,000,000,000 national debt in 2016
25% unemployment in 2016
Obama 2012!
Not many independents are blogging here how this debate made up their mind. Or, Obama was clever because of a Zinger, counting ships, but then in the next sentence mentions The U.S. Aircraft carriers and submarines)
Or, someone will vote for Obama and not Romney because he mentioned binders of women in the 2nd debate? HOW DO YOU SUGGEST A GOVERNOR OR THE HEAD OF A LARGE CORP. 10 YEARS LOOK AT 10,000 RESUMES, TWITTER, before it existed, or E-MAIL, 10,000 RESUMES in a attachment 10 YEARS AGO???)
Romney and Obama did not agree on Iran, Israel, the military, the economy, the auto bailout, N. Korea, Russia.
College graduates underemployed working at Starbucks are not broadcasting here that they will NOT be voting for Obama.
Mitt Romney has still not defined how he will improve the US economy over what Obama has managed to accomplish since the economic crash. This is likely because the Republican ideology is that market forces will automatically correct whenever they outsource our jobs. It appears that they need to believe this so that they can clear their conscious in order that it doesn’t plague them when their outsourcing destroys someone else’s livelihood.
Even as the economy began slowing mid-year in 2007, the GOP resisted taking significant efforts to stimulate the economy until the 2008 Presidential election forced the issue. They had ignored a 1-1/2 year window of opportunity
in which they could have taken the appropriate action to prevent the Great
Recession. Instead, they stood idly by while banks began to fail in early 2008, failing to realize that this previously untested ideology of the Free Market economy was seriously flawed. Great leadership is proactive leadership like Obama is displaying, not an attitude that it is OK for a select few to get filthy rich, at the expense of hard working Americans, and then everything will somehow turn out OK.
When you cannot run on facts, run on superstition and conjecture. Invent yourself an enemy that does not exist. Otherwise, how else do we plan on voting President Blackie McBlackington out of office and restoring the "white" in White House?
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
Mitt The Twitt Opens his Mouth Again.
Romney: Instagram ‘Must Be Banned’
Oct. 22, 2012
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called
for the banning of Instagram today, apparently under the misapprehension that
the popular photo sharing app is used for measuring quantities of illegal
street drugs.
The former Massachusetts
governor was speaking at a retirement home in Florida,
part of a last-minute campaign swing before Monday's presidential debate.
He used the opportunity to discuss crime and substance abuse
- issues that have not featured prominently in the campaign thus far, but
disproportionately worry older voters.
Fast Beautiful Highs
Romney took a tough no-tolerance stance, claiming Obama has
overseen an unsettling relaxation of drug policy:
"This country is seeing an epidemic of drug use and
drug related violence. Thousands of kids are dying every week from marijuana
overdoses and heroin fueled mass shootings."
"And its not just in the bad neighborhoods. Kids from
good backgrounds are getting caught up too."
"I've just heard about this application - a mobile application
for your iPhone And what you do is place
a small amount of cocaine, or marijuana, or PCP on top of your phone and the
application instantly tells you how many grams you have."
"Its called Instagram. And do you know what the really
scary thing is people? I'm told this instant drug measurement tool is the 9th
most downloaded app for the iPhone." Filter Madness
"I visited the University
of Florida recently. And everyone
in the halls was talking about their Instagrams and how much they were sharing
their 'dope pics' with their friends. They don't even try to hide it anymore.
Under Obama dope has become an acceptable part of the culture."
Romney then tried to link this imaginary drug problem to
Obama's economic policies, and suggested a Romney alternative:
"This is what the youth of Obama's America
look like. Out of work. Up to their eyeballs in debt. And hopeless, they turn
to their Instagrams to sell and consume drugs."
"Well when I am President we'll get our kids off
their iPhones and into good paying jobs. And then we must ban this Instagram tomake it harder for our children to fall into the trap of illegal substances
Romney CALMLY EXPLAINING? Romney was chittering and jabbering away like an upset chipmunk.
See it as you would like Cocomoe, it doesn't change the fact that the President was unable, throughout the entire debate, to hold his tongue. How does a lack of impulse control = strong leadership?
Prior to spending 2 weeks being prepped by foreign policy experts Romney probably couldn't have found Libya on a map. His foreign policy when unscripted was his first over seas trip as a candidate where he forgot the name the leader of our closest ally and then insulted them leading to headlines of Mitt the Twit.
John Doe:
I served in the Army. I was honorably discharged as a lieutenant. However, I do not qualify for your veteran's benefits. And luckily I don't need them.
I came to this country 50 years ago and I made a good living.
I think I know what war is. In February of 1945 when the second world war was practically over, bombers came overhead and my home town was 95% destroyed. The town had 80000 inhabitants. In 20 minutes 17000 were dead. My mother and I were miraculously dug out from the rubble alive. My father was killed in that war.
So, if you did not guess it, I served in the West German Army, and that service inside NATO kept me from being drafted into the US Army. At that time legal immigrants could be drafted into the US Army without being US citizens.
However, I do wish we had the draft again, so that sons of the political and economic elite would have to do some service for this country. Sons like Romney's sons.
To all of the vets posting here....Thank you for your service to our great country.
My husband and son (he was a paratrooper) served in the Army. My daughter served in the Navy during the gulf war.
Yesterday I cast my vote for Barack Obama.
Most people consider a draft warmongering/evil. Especially liberals. What service has Pres. Obama ever done? He has served nobody but himself. His loyalty does not lie with the United States. His loyalties are elsewhere, and that is the number one reason he should not be President.
Holding his tongue? Y'all crucified the President in the first debate for doing just that. Remember that first debate where Romney babbled excruciatingly like a schoolgirl propositioning a date for the prom? He batted his eyes over and over again as he refused to obey rules or allow anybody else to get a word in. I swear I thought he even curtsied once or twice showing off his pretty pink panties to prove he was a cheap date.
Romney's performance tonight exemplified why we must re-elect the President. He reversed himself once again and embraced every foreign policy of the President. Romney IS that cheap date.
He will screw your sister and mine. Your mother and mine. Hell, he'll even screw you and me as well as our brothers and fathers if we only make him President. Send this cheap *hore back to Bain where he belongs.
As for a smaller navy If one of our air craft carriers or sub was a nation it might would be in the top 10 and we have a bunch of them
Can you imagine how many ships that 1917 Navy would have traded for just two nuclear subs or two loaded aircraft carriers? Every one of them. What a very foolish comparison.
The headline tonight:
"Romney admits defeat, embraces all Obama foreign policy positions"
Even to the point of contradicting positions Romney took just in the last week or two.
Mr. Romney, Etch-a-Sketch is not leadership, it is the equivacation that you say is dangerous.
CBS poll says Romney lost the last debate as badly as Obama lost the first debate (-30% among independents). It was Romney's rope a dope, and he never came off the ropes in the eighth round. He just got pounded, and he looked kind of pathetic with no real punches and just trying to get in on the good stuff Obama has done. His big retort was something like, "Yeah, that was grand - but I would have done even more - uh - even better." And, don't you love, "No more Iraq's, we don't need that." Of course, he forgets that he ALWAYS supported the war in Iraq. But don't worry, that cabal of military contractors supporting him won't let him forget if he gets elected. When you are talking new theater capability for the Navy, you are talking ungodly sums of money. That's why all the blood and money merchants favor Romney.
So, 4 debates later and we still have no idea what Barrack Husseins plan for the economy is.
No economic, domestic or foreign policy after 4 years.
I think the decision is easy.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©
Provide some sources on what your saying. I call BS on your post.
A contender for commander in chief trying to compare the number of ships in 1916 to today? That was idiotic and Obama's response was right on time.
Among many of JohnDoe's recent babbling, this was spotted:
Most people consider a draft warmongering/evil. Especially liberals. What service has Pres. Obama ever done? He has served nobody but himself. His loyalty does not lie with the United States. His loyalties are elsewhere, and that is the number one reason he should not be President.
You might want to look at Obama's financial disclosures. Ya see, unlike Mitt, Obama has up to 10 million dollars invested in US Treasury notes and bonds, earning a meager 1.7%. If that is not faith and loyalty in the U.S., JohnDoe is a blowhard.
You cannot say Romney changed positions when you have always paid more attention to what Obama says about Romney's positions.
Although Obama showed that he has a much greater understanding than in 2008, his positions are actually wrong. Here's why I say that.
His administration wants to give us the illusion that Al Qaeda is vanquished when it has taken large parts of at least three countries after we kicked them out of two.
His misdirections and misrepresentations in Bengazi. It does not matter that he said about terrorist attacks in his next day speach, he still presented only a video as a cause for 14 days before admitting it probably was an 911 style attack.
I think politics is more important than reality.
@Alex2212
RE: Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
The best response is in the comments section of that very article.
Per Error404me
There are no points in this article that voters care about unless you have vast stock portfolios. Household income is down 7.2% since December 2007. Unemployment picture is horrible and looking to get worse as far as I can tell, especially with the Bush tax cuts about to expire and Obamacare taxes/regs to kick in January. God knows what these EPA regs are going to do as well. Just when the new president sorts this out, either in January or 2016 we will then have a serious debt problem. Which by 2019 debt service will be the governements #1 expense lol.
I didn't waste my time watching the debate. I made my mind up along time ago to vote for the least of two evils.
Unless Romney comes out and admits to murder or being a pedophile, he has my vote. That's how much I dislike Obama.
When Wrongme was not stuttering or trying to misinform, he was agreeing with the current and past policies of the President. He was very much out of his element. If this Wrongme guy somehow gets into office, the country is in serious trouble.
hs321....the reason you're voting for Romney has nothing to do with his ability to assume the office of president. You're like most Romney voters who didn't even wait a single day after the President took office to begin railroading him out. It's called hatred and bigotry. Most of the people who will vote for Romney are white men who think like you...with their SMALL head.
Looking for a source - is this truly a Romney quote?
Hahahahahahaha! Can any politician really be that clueless?
Source, Please!
It is very obvious that a lot of people hate President Obama. As I have been saying all along, this president is damned if he does right, damned if he does wrong.
I have asked Romney supporters on the street, what has Mitt Romney done in the last 6 years to help solve the problems in this country? All I hear is a Ralph Cramden immitation of " humm ma na humm ma na humm ma na "
He wants the job of president, I believe it is a fair interview question ?
I can't believe anything that comes out of Romney's mouth. Flip flop on all issues, copies what our president says to appease real people. When in fact we know Romney is wolf in sheep's clothing.
Anyone that was undecided before the debate last night should not be allowed to vote. What I find hilarious are those individuals posting on here slamming Romney with the same chanting mantra I've heard for the past year. It's like being in an echo chamber. As if any of your posts will convince anyone to vote for Obama. Maybe it's therapeutic? Kinda like primal screaming? What I did notice, while accidentally landing on a channel that was carrying the debate, was the way their positions seemed juxtaposed. It was like Obama was the challenger and Romney was President.
ah the Bush/Cheney years...
I love it, arguing we still use bayonet's. Sorry, I would rather have the drone equipped with Hellfire Missiles.
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
STC1993: Ok.
And here:
And:
Here we go again. This poll again. As usual the liberal trolls are gonna get on here and lie and say that the debate changed their position to Obama.
As of now 67% of respondents have changed their mind to Obama even though about 4% of the remaining voters are undecided.
Plus did anyone notice how irritable the president seemed tonight. I can hardly count the number of times he interrupted Romney. he must have tried to take some lessons from Joe Biden. Either way he didn't look Presidential. Not to mention, he flat out lied about Romney's position on Iraq, and his own attempts to sign a SOFA. But irregardless, in no time flat his loyal followers will be on here exclaiming how "presidential" he looked, and how he has already won the election. He might have had an edge in this debate, but he will pay for his lies and interruptions in the form of votes on Nov. 6th.
It is impossible to lie about Romney's position on anything because at one time or another, he's taken every position on everything.
No, I didn't notice how irritable Obama was tonight. They were both well-mannered. Obama didn't let Romney get away with false claims and unchallenged flip-flops, however. That may "sound" like an interruption to a Romney supporter, but all were fair challenges, and the moderator kept the interruptions to a minimum on the parts of both. Good debate. Mitt sat back too much, Obama took charge (but he's got the experience and really knows what he's talking about on foreign issues). IMO, Obama clearly "won" the debate.
Dave - Romoney thinks we need change. But the only thing he's seems capable of is changing his mind.
How much change did you see from what Obama campaigned on in 2008? I didn't see anything, he lied on every single thing he promised to change. With a leader like that he can keep his change I'll vote for anyone but Obama.
$8.00 a gallon gasoline
$23,000,000,000,000 national debt in 2016
25% unemployment in 2016
Obama 2012!
John Doe: The problem with your "liberal troll" theory is that it also applies to the Republican side of the poll in that there aren't that many undecided voters either, and I'm sure you were singing a different tune after the first debate when Romney's numbers were substantially higher on this exact same poll.
Can't dismiss something just because you disagree with it. :-)
The latest poll I read had each canidate at 47% +/- 3% that only leaves 12% undecided at the most. This is a BS poll at the extreme, to be polite.
John Doe-2241225, it appears from the short comments at the top that practically ALL the respondents to the poll whose opinions weren't effected either way by the debate were already decided on voting for Obama.
Obama tried being presidential and respectful in the first debate. Romney was aggressive and rude and won the debate.
Larry, you need to look at the debate again if you think Obama was presidential in the 1st debate something is wrong with you. He looked like he knew he was getting his ass handed to him.
GHX
FYI, The stock market is higher than when Bush W left office. Obama has succeeded in only 4 years.
Obama was very Presidential in the first debate and likely thought that the press would have a field day with Mitt's replies and behavior. However it's now a world of WWF smack-down mentality, which placed Obama in the position of having to keep Mitt honest during the debate.
I've never been so proud and relieved during this election as I am tonight. President Obama called out the creepy, shape shifting vulture capitalist and soundly spanked him.
He exposed him for the fraud he really is. I am hoping undecideds will flock to Obama for safety.
Thank god for Romney if Obama wins we are in for some rough times ahead that will make Hoover days a picnic.
Obama had to be shocked in the first debate at the Mitt Romney that showed up. We haven't seen that Mitt before. Like Ann Romney said on The View - Mitt ran as a moderate and pro choice for governor because that is what he had to do to win. But after the election, he went back to being severely conservative and pro life. That's the Mitt we are seeing now. The Mitt who will say anything to get elected.
Jim they are politicians, they all say anything to get elected look back at what Obama promised in 08 he lied on everything he said.
stc1993.. from your post #2.16
So if President Obama lied in 2008 as you believe, you would accept being lied to by Governor Romney in 2012, for years down the road in 2016. After all, as you said, they are politicians, they all say anything to get elected.
Not much point in arguing with you because you seem to live in some warped transdimensional timespace.
But I do have one question:
What colour is the sky on your world? Would it be white?
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
We have fewer horses and bayonets ..... Catch up Mittens!
Obama/Biden 2012
Yeah, how stupid of a comment was that. There is no analogy between ships in the navy and horses. That's going to come back to bite Obama. What a moron.
Yeah, right Regular Guy ... when China now has an aircraft carrier that can't launch planes???
Keep on keeping on with Smittens as your beloved ...
Obama/Biden 2012
I like kittens more, I absolutely cannot stand mittens. Meow? Oink?
Yea,, he asked the admirals how many ships of the line they needed and they said: We don't need 1400 four masted man of wars anymore, but we could use a aircraft carrier. DUH.
Aircraft carriers? That is Obama's hope and change for the military?
We have been 'SHORT CHANGED'
The tonnage of the U.S. Navy exceeds the combined tonnage of the next 17 largest. To think we drastically need to increase it despite military requests sounds absurd.
If one of our carries or one of our subs were a nation as far as might goes, they would be in the top 10 and we have more then one of each. F##k with them and your gone
GHX, the US committed an amphibious assault carrier and its escort during the Libyan intervention.
The Iraq Air War was conducted primarily from one aircraft carrier, along with long-range sorties by bombers.
Do you understand how freaking big and powerful aircraft carriers are? Why do you think so many ships are committed to escorting them? It's not because they don't have their own defenses, you know.
Is it? Romney's main talking point was that our navy is smaller than it was in 1916. Consider the state of the art in 1916. Is there one battleship from that era that could stand up to our modern ships?
No, that comment was spot-on!
We have the most powerful navy (for that matter, any military arm) in the world. What we need are smarter leaders for it. The last Republican administration wasn't it! And neither is Mitt Romney!
Congratulations.
You all have gotten too crazy and too extreme for me.
This is like being in a room full of children who just ate a giant sized chocolate bar and washed it down with a case of Monster. It's all shouting and screaming and very little understanding or listening.
bye bye.
Wow. Are Obama and the Dimocrats really dumb enough to harp on a meaningless play on words like a sore-loser again? Apparently so.
For those Repoblicans that were really following the debate last night - Romney was try to justify his 2 Trillion dollar (Conservative, small government price tag) that he wanted to add to the National debt (without saying exactly how he is going to pay for it). He would spend the money building more naval ships because he thinks we should have 330 and we currently only have 285 - which he then compared to the same level as in 1916???
So - that is when he got his @$$ handed to him - it not about quantity Romney. It is about quality and high tech. Can anyone out there tell me how many nations can launch and recover simultaniously via aircraft carrier????
president obama is more conservative,calm and speaks nothing but the truth we need four more years of truth obama/biden 2013-
Yeah just like the liar in chief has been lying about Benghazi; and is unwilling to call the Ft Hood shooter a terrorist. Let's not mention the cover up on Fast and Furious, and pressuring companies to neglect the WARNact by not letting defense manufacturing employees know of impending cuts. You call that integrity?
fast and furious? wasn't that a bush program? ft' hood shooter? no it is what' s called a criminal act. stupid. remember that term?
Why didn't Romney try to use Benghazi against the President tonight?
Maybe because Romney knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on?
$8.00 a gallon gasoline
$23,000,000,000,000 national debt in 2016
25% unemployment in 2016
Obama 2012!
Everyone of Obama's staff are crooks look at Eric Holder. He's a disgrace to America.
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
If we build a new carrier but deactivate 50 obsolete PT boats Romney thinks our naval power is less. If you scrap 100 muskets but buy 50 M-16's it's still an upgrade.
Obama won. Romney is dangerous.
$8.00 a gallon gasoline
$23,000,000,000,000 national debt in 2016
25% unemployment in 2016
Obama 2012!
Gas prices could soon drop 50 cents a gallon
The News Journal - 59 minutes ago
AnalyzeTheFacts, you are sadly mistaken Obama is much more dangerous for this country than Romney ever thought about being.
analyze - "Obama won. Romney is dangerous."
and his handle is "Analyze the facts"... hillarious. Keep it up Liberals, you have nobody to blame but yourselves.
Romney showed great depth in his foreign policy knowledge. Obama merely stuck to speaking points and superficial comments. Romney clearly won the debate on substance and will win the election.
???????
regularguy40 -
Whaaat? Did you actually have your tv turned ON with the sound UP? ... to THIS debate?
-or-
were just gazing at a photo of the Mitts?
What debate was you watching, or what had you been drinking?
@Regular guy,
Quoting Pigotry. "The only INTERNATIONAL experience Mitt has ever had is that he once had a dinner at the INTERNATIONAL House of Pancakes.
RegularGuy40, C'mon Tagg. We know it's you. It's socially acceptable to write a flattering obituary before the guy actually dies. It is not acceptable to write a flattering opinion of a speaker before he speaks. President Obama did it again. Has sparring with Mom improved your right hook?
@RegularGuy40
Mitt doesn't even know when he's lying anymore, its truly unbelievable. His depth of foreign policy is a step off the curb at best.
President Obama stuck to facts, and his track record with his administration. Maybe if the congressional republicans would get out of the way we could prosper as a nation together.
Romney looked like a kid up against a seasoned pro, are you kidding, Romney clearly is lost when it comes to foreign policy. He looks good on camera, he seems like-able, but he spews out lie after lie, he wants to help everyone, Bull@!$%# man, this guys a poster child for whats wrong with America today greed and more greed. He's going down and cheating with election counting devices is your only hope.
Fox news=Romney won
MSNBC News=Obama won
polls are a joke.
I go by the facts and track records, and Mitts track record is dismantling jobs to send companies overseas and layoff the workers to make a profit. he's for the rich upper classman, fact. yet he lies about wanting to help the middle class, get real Mitt, were not that stupid.
President Obama clearly won this debate too, on facts and actual hello descriptions of his course of action. Mitt knows how to fix everything, yet gives not one fk'n explanations as to how to achieve those goals.
rhetoric monkey man, etch a sketch, frikin' flip flopper, f'n chameleon if you ask me. who is Mitt Romney and what does he stand for, he's got me totally confused, lol I want him far far away from the nuclear codes and the whitehouse. We need real leadership in these critical times. We've dug our way out of their mess and we need to keep driving forward to fix this beautiful country once again. its a damn merry go round, what a joke.....
President Obama/Vice Biden 2012! Thank god. Maybe we can finally climb out of this recession caused by the republican party during, Reagan,George Bush Sr., George Bush Jr. Clinton got us a surplus and the republicans totally destroyed it, only to blame the democrats yet again, we're watching we're not stupid, and we vote!
Wow... You liberals need to look somewhere else than at the B.S. NBC shovels at you some time.
RegularGuy is 100% correct. Romney won AGAIN on everything of substance.
The CNN poll offer some good and far-less biased(though still skewed towards Democrats) insight into the debate:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
this guy( Romney) is a good reason for not having a democracy. help us please! half of the voters rather have him then the black guy??
What are you saying? You say that like being black somehow lends credibility to the President. Guess what, voting for the President just because he is black is defined in one word. Prejudice, and as liberals are so anxious to point out, prejudice is dangerous.
are you on the same planet?
No wonder your name is John Doe. With a name like that sounds very deceiving.
sailr69 - Your inability to understand basic capilization or chose the correct words for a sentence, along with your pointless and empty stance, are reasons for NOT allowing Democrats in any office where they can buy votes.
P.S.
Learn the meaning of "then" and "than".
Romney proves once again that he will say anything he thinks is necessary to close the deal -- makes no difference whether he agrees or disagrees with what he said yesterday.
dave proves once again that Democrat sheep are clueless with nothing to offer but empty claims.
Just the idea of possibly having a vice president that looks like Darrin Stephens gives me the creeps. Especially if by some misfortune he becomes the President.
lol
Ah... voting based on looks... what a Liberal thing to do.
Perhaps a vice president that makes ridiculous statements and acts like a strung-out clown in a debate would be slightly more dangerous than your thought of someone looking like someone.
"the middle class has been buried the last 4 years"
"he'll have ya'll back in chains"
"its a big f*ing deal"
Democrat presidential material indeed.
And of course republicans never say anything foolish or said badly.
How many jobs did he create with the 100 million stashed in Bermuda because of his low rates?
A short list of things the President was wrong about in the debate (and this is just off the top of my head).
He lied about Romney wanting to send troops to Iraq. Romney wanted a SOFA to let some troops remain, a SOFA which the Obama administration tried to negotiate as well. Pres. Obama lied by claiming he never wanted a SOFA.
He flat out lied about Romney's position on the bailout, not to mention he interrupted Romney multiple times as Romney tried to calmly explain why the President was wrong.
He made up some nonsense about bayonet's and Air Craft Carriers. Romney even pointed out that the Navy has requested additional ships so they can fulfill their missions, but Pres. Obama keeps saying the military "doesn't even want extra funding."
He accused Romney of wanting to cut funding for research, even though Pres. Obama's idea of "research" is bailing out failed energy companies.
Oh, and there is so much more. That was just off the top of my head.
Sorry John that the President interrupted Gov Romney. The President stood strong and Mitt simply agreed with him.
your head??
John Doe: You are only talking way above your head. Get off the air waves and go to sleep.
Mitt's "Apology Tour" thing was rated a Pants On Fire on Politifact, but he stuck with that one again tonight. He also got a Pants On Fire for his comments about the size of the military.
The SOFA to leave no troops in Iraq was an agreement reached between Iraq and G.W. Bush prior to Obama ever taking office, and would take effect unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement. They weren't. Obama wanted to leave some troops there to train, but was not able to because the Iraqi government refused. Obama did not try to obtain a new SOFA to change that, which would have been against the desires of the Iraqis. See "Iraq's Government, Not Obama, Called Time on U.S. Troop Presence" by Time magazine Oct. 21, 2011.
So there you go. You posted this multiple times and were wrong each time you posted it.
my vote goes to mitt romney all the way. he is the one who sees the biggest problem of all and that is jobs... i feel terrible for all of the workers in the construction field. my friend was a general contractor here in florida and i just went to his funeral for shooting himself. left 4 kids behind. mitt.......you got my vote!
Single Mother-Maybe if the Republicans in Congress had bothered to vote on the "Jobs Bill" Obama put forth your friend would have had a construction job.
I'm sorry to hear of your loss but it is best to look deeper into the President's record to get America back to work than you see and hear on Fox News.
You've really got your nerve don't you? You should be ashamed. And you are incorrect at that. R.I.P. to her friend.
And listening to FOX news does not make you a racist. I listen to all of them and the Democrats on FOX news sound very factual and intelligent, rather than hostile, vicious and stupid.
The bayonet analogy was spot on. Out country isn't weaker because 50 PT boats are deactivated being obsolete and 1 new carrier built. Our Navy has been built for 40 years based on firepower, ability to project power and tonnage not quantity. A policy done at the request of naval leaders. Romney should know that.
Obama was clear, concise and determined. He made the strong case for re-election.
Too bad he lost on everything that mattered and hurt his own likeability doing it:
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
A single mother: I'd venture to guess you have no idea of Romney's jobs idea's. I'd suggest reading his 59 point plan carefully. Google Romney 59 point.
Romney intends to allow 1.25 million high tech workers premanent worker status citing a shortage in those fields. Unemployment numbers in those fields are double what they were prior to the recession. This will merely flood the country with foreign workers willing to work for less than Americans even though millions are still unemployed in those fields. A vulture capitalists dream. Romney claims these new workers will create support jobs for Americans like selling them big macs and ringing up purchases at Wal Mart.
Romney intends to remove caps on H1B visa's and even mentioned in the second debate that he'd like to staple a green card on foreign students diploma's that achieved the top 20% of their class.. The net affect would be students for every high paying job in the country would then be not only competing with graduating Americans but most other countries. The effect of such a policy would gradually reduce wages for high paying jobs like doctors, surgeons. architects, engineers, dentists and most any profession you can think of. A policy designed to promote cheap labor for business. Romney promised to create 12 million jobs but didn't say they'd be filled by Americans.
I was already going to vote for Obama and this debate only strongly confirmed that. An excellent presentation on his part.
A presentation was all it was. He said some of the same things four years ago and did nothing. He'll do nothing again...except take us further into the poor house.
Uhhhh, actually Layton......we have MORE bayonets. Most combat soldiers are issued one. President Obama's scripted one-line zinger missed it's mark. He was wrong.
laugh, M16's do not have bayonet mounts
The knights of the middle ages with bayonets do not decide wars anymore.
I had an M16 in the early 1960s. Are they still using those? I think I had a bayonet but not sure. Maybe not. I know for sure I didn't have a horse.
Actually I think they use M16A2 ,M16A4, and M4 depending on the unit.
I agree with Maddow "Romney's shifting positions: It's a character issue. And I think it's disqualifying"
As a navy vet, i can see what Gov. Romney is trying to do by saying that he is going to beef up our Defense budget and increase the number of ships in our fleet. What he is trying to do is to BUY the votes in Virginia! Virginia is home to several DoD bases and the largest naval station in america. Also, it is a swing state.
Sorry Romney, but in a democratic nation people cannot be bought - unless you work for congress of course...
Brian, You mean unless you work for ACORN.
Or Nathan Sproul. Romney has a better plan. Buying the voting machines in Ohio and many other key states.
PoliticolNews.com writes:
ROMNEY WAS ON SLEEPING PILLS or was on his Second Act of his Romnesea! Obama won hands down!!!
Apparently you were on sleeping pills, or meth.
"on the question of likeability, the two candidates are essentially tied on a trait that has generally been an advantage for Obama. That's probably due to the fact that two-thirds of debate watchers felt that Obama spent more time than Mitt Romney on the attack."
Obama just weakened his likeability by attempting to hide his lack of anything substantial to offer by making continuous attacks on his successor.
"Half of those questioned say that the debate did not affect how they would vote, with 25% saying they are more likely to vote for Romney and 24% saying they are more likely to cast a ballot for Obama.
The sample of debate-watchers in the poll was 34% Democratic and 30% Republican."
Even with 4% more Democrats being sampled more people say the debate made them more likely to vot for Romney.
3 debates and Romney swept them all on matters of leadership; Obama swept them all on attacks, pandering, and soundbites.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/22/cnn-poll-who-won-the-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
Many times, noticed the poor Romney looking at Obama wishing the debate to be over soon...
Anyone with a brain can see Obama performed like a 5 year old. He didn't have any answers to the real problem and Mitt outlined everything. The "apologizer" is going down!
Ali, how would you act if your presidential opponent who you've been running against for months turned out to be - you. How can the president say anything of significance if after every question Mr. Romney agreed and said that it was, in fact, what he has been trying to say all along.
The funny thing though is that on MSNBC.COM they showed a clip of the republican primaries where Romney, standing along side his fellow republicans, was asked his opinion about foreign affairs, and answered opposite to most of the ideals that he seems to have learned today...
It is time for a man with morals, a Christian leader with a spine who is not starstruck and trivializing. Obama can still vacation 24/7 and he will have a handsome pension, so not to worry. He wasn't going to keep his lying promises to you again anyway.
Sharon please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, a lying mormon, that's what he is , dig deep, do your research honey, know what these people(mormons), really believe, stop just looking at he's white, because over half of these replublican did not want him the first time around because of that fact (mormon), but now they just want a white face, and a lying one at that. Christian with morals, GIRL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, they are politicians.
my heart is in this thing we need our potus to continue for four more years Mitt does not have our best interest ,we all need to be aware of what he will do if elected . let us all be vigilate of our life , hell what mitt willard plans to do ,not only just for his boys to take over the white house but what he plans to eliminate from us and everything we have survived through. My goodness to repeal the affordable care act how many of us can go to the doctor without going to the E.R. Please think about it and what ever you decide we need our President to resume his duty and bring us simply said forward to where we can go and where we need to be . When keeping it real goes wrong OH YES we will have a problem......
And hopefully we'll fill up Congress and the Senate with a majority of Democrats and Obama will be able to get done what needs to be w/o having Republicans filibuster.
Everyone needs to fact check and decide wisely when voting as this may be the most important election you ever vote in.
Romney/Biden's Battleship sunk!
Obama/Biden 2012 - Democrat All The Way!
CORRECTION!!
And hopefully we'll fill up Congress and the Senate with a majority of Democrats and Obama will be able to get done what needs to be w/o having Republicans filibuster.
Everyone needs to fact check and decide wisely when voting as this may be the most important election you ever vote in.
Romney/Ryan - Obama just sunk your Battleship!
Obama/Biden 2012 - Democrat All The Way!
Obama wasted his first two years when he could have passed anything he wanted. Obamacare down our throats when no one wanted it. ALL his energy when no one had even read the foot tall stack of paper. A Chicago thug with no heart. Jeremiah Wright, no transparency, and turning back the clock to the 60's in race relations nationwide. I am ashamed he could have made an impact and proved something we all wanted. Instead he was lazy and hate-mongering and now has the blind, loyal vote although he will repeat the same incompetency. The dumbing down of America.
I like Romney's Monday position, hate his Tuesday position, not sure how I feel about his Wednesday position, don't understand his Thursday position, am frightened about his Friday position, and am hiding out all weekend! Will he start all over again next week? No core, no depth, no substance, no consistency, no President.
his positions are so crazy that we all need to be running to the voting booth to make sure that we are secure .if he disrespect our President on t.v. just think what he will do behind White House doors
but, he is a Mormon! that must be something, right? I think, maybe, or maybe not, oh I don't know. what the hell!
I read that the Mormon teachings say that if a Mormon lies, he will go to HELL.
Ask yourself this, is the world a safer place to live than it was 4 years ago? If you answer yes, then you need to pull your head out of the ground. Having traveled much, I feel less safe, and find foreigners have far less respect for us as Americans. Now ask yourself this, are you better off today than 4 years ago. We cannot afford another 4 years. But we will get what we ask for. Give the new guys a chance. At least his track record is positive. If he can make billions for himself, why can't he make trillions for America.
I travel weekly out of the country. Plus, I was a near-miss 9-11 (they hit an aircraft near my own at Dulles).
Think I'm qualified to say it is way safer now, than four years ago? It is, believe me. We were widely ridiculed in the world, back then. Not so much, now. Statistics will support me on that one (for one, terrorists haven't dove airplanes into buildings, that I know of).
I feel safer too and more respected. On recent travels to Europe and Africa, everybody we encountered wanted Obama re-elected and think Romney doesn't have a clue.
Frank Lowell... r u serious ? The gov't is NOT a business. The only way RMoney knows how to make a profit is by DESTROYING businesses and leaving the owners and shareholders holding the bag while he robs them blind. ,
"Give the new guys a chance"... LMFAO !! These are not "new" guys. They're the same OLD guys that got us into this mess to begin with. They have NO vision for the future and want to drag us back into another century... the 1800s.
Continued from last post...... They would be perfectly happy to take us back to the days of Robber Barons and women who should be seen but not heard and have absolutely ZERO rights. NO THANK YOU.
I will NEVER vote for a party that wants to turn this country into a THEOCRATIC FASCIST OLIGARCHY. The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves as it is knowing the TEAPUBLICANS are destroying their beautiful SECULAR REPUBLIC which is supposed to be governed FOR THE COMMON GOOD of the people. Something the RW is VEHEMENTLY against.
Some mean people post on here.
I voted for Obama in 2008, but there is no way I can vote for this president again. This president has proven to be the extremist the right has repeatedly claimed he is. I ignored all of this rhetoric in 2008 thinking they were full of it and that there is no way that the American people would elect a president that extreme, but they were right. This president has repeatedly bashed the private sector-"you didn't build that" is one good example. He also talks of taxing the rich into poverty in hopes of helping the poor he claims to care about(nevermind that the right holds the monopoly on private charitable giving), he has intruded on our religious freedom, he is a narcissist, he takes credit for stuff he didn't do, he lies, he cheats, etc. I am also sick of hearing the race card be played everytime someone disagrees with this president.
Most importantly, our defecit is more than $6 trillion higher than before Obama took office, gas prices are also much higher than before Obama took office, food prices are much higher, there is more people out of work and underemployed, our credit rating is lower, our standing in the world is much lower, the majority of Americans don't support Obama's failed, high taxing healthcare law. Romney does have a plan if you liberals would actually go and read his campaign page instead of listening to liberal spin. He also has private business experience which the economy needs, not someone who wants to tell hard working business owners that they "didn't build that" and try to socialize their business.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!
In the first debate there was feisty Mitt, the second debate there was the stumbling Mitt, in the third debate there was the invisible Mitt who had no clue as to what his positions were or are or to be. He sounded like a winy namby-pamby tea bagger pantywaist that lost his way and couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.