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Subscribe to RSSSeniors have become the most coveted voting bloc in the swing state of Florida and some Central Florida retirees shared their concerns with NBCNews.com
BOCA RATON, FL. – The Sunshine State has earned a permanent prominence in America’s presidential elections and this year is no different. Both presidential candidates see their path to victory either enhanced or hindered by the outcome here.
How important is Florida? Listen to Vice President Joe Biden’s comments to Democratic campaign workers in Orlando on Saturday: “If you guys produce, we win Florida. We win Florida, this is all history man."
He added, “If you guys push Florida over, this thing becomes, uh, not close.”
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In the key battleground state of Florida, divergent opinions separate voters with just over two weeks until the election.
A CNN poll released Friday showed a statistical tie in Florida, with Romney at 49 percent and Obama at 48 percent. Florida's dead heat between Romney and Obama reflects the state of the presidential race nationally: a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday finds that the two rivals each get 47 percent support among likely voters.
Times have changed. When Biden’s hero John F. Kennedy was elected president in 1960, Florida had just 10 electoral votes, making it one of the less important states in winning the presidency.
The Sunshine State's political leaning is hard to predict – just like the endless list of odd stories that keep popping up there. NBC News' Mark Potter reports from Orlando
But this year, Florida has nearly three times that number and the state has become indispensable to amassing the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, making it a fitting setting for the final debate between President Barack Obama and GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney Monday night in Boca Raton.
For Romney, the math is unmistakable. It is possible for him to amass the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency if he fails to carry Florida, but the he would have to sweep the rest of the battleground states or bring other states into his column that are currently holding steady for the president.
In contrast, Obama could win the presidency without Florida as long as he could hold on to Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire, all of which he won in 2004. That equation would hold true even if Obama were to lose Virginia, Ohio, and North Carolina, as well as Florida.
Will the race for the White House come down to Sunshine State? With the election tied, TODAY's Lester Holt reports from Florida to see how things are shaping up in the swing state.
Of course twelve years ago, Florida was the place where a mere 537 votes and a ruling by the United States Supreme Court decided the election for George W. Bush. The reason Florida keeps playing its recurring central role in presidential politics is that of the five states with the most electoral votes, it is now the only one that’s competitive in presidential elections.
In every presidential contest since 1980, there has been a strong correlation between each party’s share of the Florida vote and its national vote share. The only time since 1980 when Florida didn’t vote for the winner of the presidential election was in the tri-cornered 1992 race when George H.W. Bush narrowly won the state in his race against Bill Clinton, with third-party candidate Ross Perot getting 20 percent.
"One of the most terrifying things in the world is the idea that Florida would decide an election," said humorist, author and Florida resident Dave Barry. He suggested that Florida shouldn't be allowed to have electoral votes, and instead should give them to a responsible state, like Montana.
What’s often forgotten about Obama’s 2008 triumph is how close his margin of victory was in Florida. Obama won Florida by fewer votes (236,450) than George W. Bush had won the state four years earlier (380,978).
In 2008, Obama won nine states that Bush had carried in 2004. Of the states that shifted from Bush to Obama, Obama’s winning percentage was the smallest in Indiana (49.9 percent), North Carolina (49.7 percent) and Florida (51 percent).
The task for Romney in the next 15 days becomes clear when you compare the Bush’s Florida victory in 2004 with Republican John McCain’s loss in the state in 2008.
One obvious place to start the comparison: As has often been noted, between 2004 and 2008, exit polls showed a massive shift in Latino voters in Florida from Bush to Obama. In 2004, Bush’s Democratic opponent, Sen. John Kerry won 44 percent of self-identified Latino voters in Florida, according to the exit poll interviews. Obama won 57 percent of Florida Latinos in 2008.
Another key part of the Florida electorate: Military and retired military voters in Duval County, the site of Naval Station Mayport and the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville.
In his 2004 victory, Bush’s biggest plurality in any Florida county was in Duval, which he won by more than 60,000 votes, with a total vote of more than 220,000. Four years later McCain barely scraped by in Duval County, winning 9,600 fewer votes than Bush had four years earlier and carrying the county by fewer than 8,000 votes.
In Florida, Tampa is viewed as ground zero for predicting which candidate will win the state – there, the county has had a near perfect record of picking winners going back more than 50 years. NBC's Lester Holt reports.
“Duval County is a conservative part of the state, with a large military and military retiree presence, which you would have thought that would have helped McCain, but also a very conservative and religious part of the state,” University of South Florida political scientist Susan MacManus said.
Yet Duval County also has a sizeable black population which the Obama campaign mobilized, increasing the Democratic turnout in the county by nearly 30 percent over 2004.
What happened in 2008 in Duval County and elsewhere in Florida “is that lot of conservative women were simply not engaged by McCain. That was one of the reasons that there was lack of enthusiasm for him; there weren’t a lot of campaign visits up there. McCain’s wife didn’t necessarily appeal to those women whereas Ann Romney, she draws crowds wherever she goes,” MacManus said.
On the other side of the state, Hillsborough County (Tampa and environs) proved to be a small-scale version of Florida as a whole when you compare the 2008 election with 2004.
Bush carried Hillsborough County in 2004 with 53 percent and the state with 52 percent of the vote. In 2008, Obama carried Hillsborough County with 53 percent and the state with 51 percent.
The pivotal role of Hillsborough County helps explain why the Republicans chose to have their national convention in Tampa. Underscoring again the importance of the county, Obama will travel to Tampa for a rally Thursday.
“The race and ethnic mix in Hillsborough County is very much a microcosm of Florida at large when you talk about the three groups of Hispanics, African-Americans and Anglos,” MacManus said. “And you’ve got a diverse age makeup in the county, more of an even split between younger, middle-aged, and older…. The age makeup is like Florida at large which is far less of a senior vote than a lot of people have been casting it as.”
She said three key geographies in Hillsborough County are used to do micro-targeting and turnout:
- Conservative rural areas that are largely agricultural, like Ruskin and Wimauma, centers for tomato growing, and Plant City, a strawberry-producing area.
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., analyzes the state of the presidential race in the swing state of Florida.
- Suburban areas such New Tampa, home to many young professionals.
- The urban core in Tampa which is dominated by minority voters and is heavily Democratic.
“The big question mark in our state right now,” MacManus said, “is turnout among the groups that really launched Obama into the White House,” namely “younger voters, the most solidly Democratic voting group in Florida and the largest margin (for Obama) and also among Latinos. That’s what we're really watching here right now. And the suburban counties, with the glimmers of some recovery, whether they’re actually going to go back and be attracted to Obama, or still be concerned about the economy. I’m leaning toward the latter.”
In Florida’s economy, there are some signs of progress. The Commerce Department reported that in the second quarter of 2012, Florida personal income grew 1.2 percent, ranking Florida fifth among the states in growth. The state’s unemployment rate fell from 10.4 percent in September of 2011 to 8.7 percent in September of 2012.
But as of September, Florida ranked number one in foreclosures, a topic which Biden brought up Saturday at his stop in St. Augustine: “On housing, no state has been devastated more by housing than this state,” he said. “Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to continue to push for people to be able to modify and refinance their mortgages.”
Of course Democratic passion for Obama was at its peak on Election Day 2008 and one saw evidence of that in the traditional Democratic bastions of south Florida:
- Miami-Dade County: In 2008, Obama won nearly half a million votes, a 22 increase in the Democratic vote compared to Kerry in 2004.
- Palm Beach County: Obama increased Democratic turnout by 10 percent compared to 2004
- Broward County (Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood): This was the county where Obama had his biggest plurality – more than 250,000 votes. He increased Democratic turnout by 8 percent compared to 2004.
On Election Night, if Obama under-performs in these Democratic bastions, or fails to win Hillsborough County, they would be bad omens for the president and his party.
NBC's Carrie Dann contributed reporting
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GOP wants to steal Florida again?
According to sources, Gov. Rick Scott is like a bro for Romney, and Rick will be copycating Jebrish Bush and steal the election for his bro - Mitt who promises to pay Gov. Scott some women from his binders
Seniors, Beware, Vulture/Voucher is coming after your wallet and Medicare...be very scared - mediScared.
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Halloween is coming, Vulture is coming to town
Look, I'm a REPUBLICAN and I'm VOTING a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket.
If you're a FLORIDA RETIREE, or CLOSE to RETIREMENT, you'd be CRAZY to Vote for MITT ROMNEY.
If your a TEACHER, a POLICEMAN, a FIREMAN, a FEDERAL EMPLOYEE, a UNION WORKER, a WOMEN, a LATINO, a PERSON of COLOR, GAY, or an UNDECIDED VOTER,
you would be CRAZY to Vote for the cowardly MITT ROMNEY who RAIDS your PENSION FUNDS,
who DESTROYS AMERICAN businesses,
who HIDE your MONEY in hidden SWISS BANK accounts,
who LAUNDRIES your STOLEN MONEY in his phony CAYMAN ISLAND shell companies,
who does NOT pay his FAIR share of TAXWES.
Mitt Romney is wrong
The “Romney Tsunami” is surging through the heartland of America.
Gathering strength and building momentum daily.
Landfall in Washington, DC on November 6th
Join us for a complete wipe-out!
Romney/Ryan 2012
And what's this I hear all over the News that one of MITT ROMNEY's sons "threatened" the President.
Yes! One of MITT ROMNEY's sons said he wanted to "TAKE a SWING at the PRESIDENT".
Is that even LEGAL to want to HIT a standing PRESIDENT?
It definitely sounds very COWARDLY.
But it all makes Sense.
"Like FATHER like SON".
"The APPLE does NOT FALL FAR from the TREE".
But Most Important Tagg Romney "HAD a GOOD TEACHER"
Namely his DAD, who Not only is a proven LIAR, an Admitted TAX-CHEAT, and a probable FELON
who only AVOIDED those FELONLY CHARGES by cowardly "RETIRING RETRO-ACTIVELY" from BAIN CAPITAL,
but that MITT ROMNEY is ALSOa BULLY
who terrorized younger and weaker Kids during his PREP SCHOOL days,
according to many EYE WITNESSES.
we don't need a COWARD who hides behind BULLYING in the WHITE HOUSE.
We DON"T need or want MITT ROMNEY
Now do we?
Obama will be giving his concession speech in just 16 days! I can’t wait for Nov 6th!
Romney/Ryan 2012
In the end, it's whose economic plan do you trust.
Obama's policies have seen growth of the economy each and every quarter since he was elected. If you don't believe me google GDP chart and look for yourself.
Romney's plan sounds great, but he won't define the loopholes he would close to pay for it. Even with closing most of the loopholes, most economists say that he can't pay for the 20% tax decrease. Also, Romney wants to maintain military spending levels despite the fact that both wars are winding down, and hasn't said how he will pay for that.
Conservative Romney was clearly supporting the wealthy over the poor (47% comment). Moderate Mitt is all about the middle class, but how can you trust that when he's held so many changing positions.
So go with what you know that is working, or an experiment based on trickle down economics that we know from the Bush years was a failure.
Hey, Eric-913730:
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As you should know, the US - the largest economy in the world is too big...GOP's and thus Mitt's clear and 'incoherent' plan of laissez-faire ('leave the market alone') is the worst such plan in the global history - having done so much damages - from the recession of 1873 to the recession of 1893, to the recession of 1907, to the Great Depression (1929-45), to the recession of 1990, to the Asian Financial crisis of 1997, to this current recession. So this 'clear and incoherent' idea of market as perfect (laissez-faire) is lazy and unfair.
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The vision of an economic policy is often depending on improvising, the only important thing is to get Congress to go along with the President and work together for a better America...but GOP in congress only wants to humiliate the President, putting their partisan interest in front of the country's.
. Shame on you GOP.
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FORWARD...............
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Pigotry Etal, new voter scam emerging here in Florida, reported today in our local newspaper, New Press, Ft. Myers area, appears some seniors and minority groups are receiving phone calls telling them they could vote by phone, how many voters have been taken in on the scam is unknown, although one telephone number has been traced back to the RNC whom of course denies any knowledge of telephone calls. RNC spokesman says they are conducting calls to remind people to vote, really, like we are all dumb clucks and can't remember to vote.
Suppress the vote not working then suppress the vote through a scam. Check out the article, located in the Local section, and Tell Mel Column. Can't win a clean election and resorting to some very nasty tricks, our republican custodians are up on each and every method.
Obama 2012
Good God, the liberals still can't get over the fact that Gore LOST in Florida! The Pig needs to get a life.
I saw Rubio lying his a$$ off on 2 of this mornings political shows. I guess he's trying to fit in with RandR. What is troubling is the free pass on the lies that was given to him by Bob Scheiffer. 3/4 of the time was given to Republicans, and Bob is the moderator of the next (fixed) debate.
1funnyg
Gore didn't lose, Bush bought the supreme court to have the first blooddless coup in America's history.(Clarence Tomas' wife was hired by Bush for the transition). We live with the train wreck of Bush's Presidency today.
Hello folks, does it feel like the movie Ground Hog Day to you? We keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results. It looks and feels like we are gerbils on a treadmill wheel.
Folks, those playing the Democrat Republican blame game illustrates that they have you right where they want you, in fear, distracted and divided while their overlords are robbing us blind.
Who has always run this world? The blue bloods, right? Nearly every U.S. president has been related to each other and ultimately their lineage can be easily traced back to the British monarchy. So what is different about this election? Are Obama and Romney related? Your damn right they are!
Have you ever looked at the Bush, Romney, and Obama family tree, they are all related to each other! If you think this is conspiracy then Huffington Post, Reuters, ABCNews, Ancestry.com, Genealogy Bank, etc and many more news outlets are involved in a conspiracy. The argument by the disinformation trolls is that if you go back far enough in your own bloodline that we are all related to the Queen of England. That is unadulterated BS. The blue bloods have always run this country!
Obama & Romney Are Related! Genealogy Infographic
By Tom Kemp | Posted on October 12, 2012 by Tom Kemp
“In time for the 2012 election countdown, I recently did some genealogy research to learn more about the background of both President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney, and guess what—they’re related!
What’s more: they’re also related to several former U.S. presidents, English kings, outlaws and celebrities. This is really huge! So huge in fact that our team at GenealogyBank decided to create this Infographic to show many of these surprising genealogical findings.”
Why are you voting for either of these candidates? Because one or the other is the lesser of two evils? That still makes them evil, right? We have a one headed two party system that support the rich and could care less about you, zero, zilch!
For those who still value their individual critical thinking and decision making skills wake up and get off the treadmill.
Our global banking system has crashed and you will find this information out after the elections and neither candidate can save it. You can acknowledge our situation or remain asleep, the choice is yours but you can make a difference if you simply decide to. Peace!
When I was a child, my father said we should always thank God in our prayers that we lived in a great country like America.
Even with the big problems and controversy that exists here, I still agree. America is the land of the free. Just watch the nightly news. In so many foreign countries, people cannot speak their mind about their leaders or practice their own religion without fear of being persecuted, ostracized, or murdered.
As an American, it makes me proud to have a leader like President Obama.
As a Christian, it makes me proud to vote for another Christian like President Obama.
I have always had faith in America and faith in God. Neither has let me down yet.
OK, time for a quick unofficial survey:
Thumbs up this post if you vote Romney
Thumbs up this post if you vote Pres. obama
Romney/Ryan 2012!
Interesting article. The writer should have noted (as done in most other NBC articles) that the best poll to watch is the RCP poll - which is an accumulation of all polls. The great outcome of the RCP presentation is that the few high polls for both candidates are averaged with all the other polls.
Today, the RCP for Florida has Gov. Romney at 2.1 % over President Obama.
Still - a CLOSE election. Too bad the election will be decided by a few states. Sort of makes our vots in the other states seem less than important.
1funnygirl,
Gore didn't lose in Florida. Studies show that a statewide recount would have resulted in his victory (by about 100 votes) and thus awarded him all 25 electoral votes, thus making him the legitimate winner of the election (consistent with the nationwide popular vote — which should be all that matters, anyway) and the 43rd President of the United States. That's right: in a perfect world where every vote is counted, no matter the electoral system, Al Gore would have won and not Bush.
So, no, I'm not over it. Unlike you, I love our democracy. And our democracy was wronged when Bush was given Florida's electoral votes despite the fact that Gore received more votes in the state. I'm not over it because, I'm pretty sure that if Gore had been the 2000s president instead of Bush, we'd be vastly better off today.
Here's what you get when you vote Republican: NO Social Security; NO Medicare: NO Medicaid; NO public services; NO public schools; NO women and minority rights; NO regulations to keep you healthy and safe; NO taxes for infrastructure and other public projects; NO money for colleges; NO religious freedoms; NO trickle down economics; NO fair banks or Wall Street trading for the little guy; NO accurate history or civics for your children; NO fair media. Everything will be privatized for the profit for the 1%. Put aside your biases about a black president and realize that on November 7, if Republicans win, we have no chance to survive as a democracy; we become a full-blown plutocracy with the rest of us working for nothing with no benefits or retirement.
Gee, I never thought Gloria Allred would interject herself in the presidential election, but she is rumored to have an “October Surprise” that will probably call a press conference to slam Mitt Romney with some “epic” revelation. A disgruntled maid or handyman? Or a mistress? Allred is rumored to be preparing to reveal some secret or scandal to torpedo Mitt Romney’s chances at winning the election. You will recall Gloria Allred torpedoed Meg Whitman’s chances for winning the gubernatorial election in California when she represented a disgruntled former housekeeper, Nicky Diaz, who was an illegal immigrant. Needless to say, Whitman lost the election to Jerry Brown, a Democrat. Ms. Allred won’t confirm or deny the rumors involving Mitt Romney, nonetheless, some Republicans are scared. LOL.
The Republicans are going nuts over this rumor, starting with Matt Drudge, who tweeted on Thursday that this was coming:
Occam,
HuffPost has Romney ahead in FL by 0.7
They're not "lefty nutjobs" or anything any more than RCP is righty nutjobs. They do a poll of polls too, they just use more, different ones.
See: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map
They only have 4 tossup swing states. RCP still calls PA a tossup even though Obama's been ahead by 5+ forever.
Hmmmm...MittTaxPittanceRommel aka CountDracula and his servant EddiMunster are Lying Up A Storm in Ohio, Which was Traditionally iron and steel specific manufacturing country. BUT! Thanks to the Count and His Aristocrat/Sociopath Friends at the republicanCrimeCartel, The Fine Steel and Iron working Craftsmen and Women were fired and their jobs "outsourced" and so these Fine Americans are in the OutHouse. Read and listen as PhantomBeast is dedicating this communique to the our American Voting Men, as The Ladies Have a Large Working Brain up there in their skulls and see Through TheCount and EddiMunster's Lies. Now Men, even though You May not personally savor Prez O 'cause he threatens Our VERY Fragile Male Egos, this Guy is OUR ONLY FRIEND. It's like when you went to the dealership in GREAT Emotional need to get soothed by the Slick Salesman, Who, by the way, strangely resembles MittTaxPittanceRommel, and Both of You sat there and Sang out Anti-Prez O slogans in Unison and he finally got you to go into lifetime hock for one of those HUGE Phallic Trucks that gets 5Gallons to the Mile "But HELL, "I don't care", 'cause it makes up for something Pathetically small somewhere else; And "that Obammi guy!! Like Mitt said, I can't trust him!; there won't be any gas to power my KingDong Phallia Truck!!! An' I don't care if I gotta clean $H!TF!lled Public Toilets wth my tongue for a dollar a day, I don't want no n!gger in th' whitehouse!!" And for You "more educated" Men who feel "Well, I don't care if the Man is Harvard educated, I perceive that he won't be able to get me off of the unemployment line when my "mid managment position" was "inner corporate absorbed". This President does not know how to run a country". CORRECTION Mr.Snoot, Yes He does just as Rommel and the republicanAristocratParty KNOW How to RUIN a Country. So Fellow Men Voters, Let's keep Prez O in the WhiteHouse as he's the only one who knows what the hell he is doing in spite of republicanAristocratSoldier's attacks. Here is something of interest and importance:
For the Very Few NAIVE
American voters who are thinking of voting for Mitt Tax Pittance Rommel and
Lyin'Ryan out of desperation and hope that these two MONSTERS will rescue your
life, Better look AT THE FACTS. CountDracula and EdddiMunster are going to keep
the bush TAX EVASION BONUSES FOR THE EVIL RICH In Effect: with TheCount's Crappy excuse? "I won't
LOWER the taxes on the Rich!!!!" Well, Thanks Count, as you 1-10% and Corporate
rich already pay the Lowest taxes in American History and the taxes are REALLY on the
Backs of working people @37%. And! AND!! AND!!! Gas and Oil Prices???? What a
Sucker Punch at Voters. The Count and EddiMunster PERSONALLY Dreamed up the
$4.00p/g at the pump to blame it on Prez O. JUST WHO do you voters think sets
Gas& Oil prices, "Healthcare" policy prices, Hiring, Job/Career Outsourcing,
Burger Flipping pay for NET $4.50p/hr while TheCount and these
Aristocrat/Elitist republicanCrimecartel Soldiers are SUCKING YOU DRY for
$4.00p/gal gas and oil,
$1100.00p/m for "healthinsurance", while the ceo at united healthcare took home $128,000,000 CASH, Paid No taxes with capital Gains LoopHoles, Thanks to KingGeorge and the republicanCrimeCartel, who Perverted the tax laws leaving WE American TaxPayers to Pay HIS Taxes on that Tidy Sum.
Here Is a Very VERY Helpful Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage
Like father like son? Interesting, what's that say about Barry?
RepublicansForObama-6186389
Ya right you are a Republican, is this little Miss Wasserface? I suppose you voted for McCain too.
Pigotry The sky is falling mentality of the left is never surprising in fact it is getting quite old. You are supporting a guy who you lefties all but buried after the first debate. Your soft understanding tone that you praise is hardly ever as real as the anger underneath which is why I am a Republican.
Romney/Ryan?
Unemployment and new jobs creation
On average, unemployment rates were slightly worse in the rest of the nation than in Massachusetts for the first three years of Romney's term.[59][62] By his final year in office, the state was struggling to keep pace with the rate of falling unemployment nationwide.[59]
Massachusetts' national ranking leapt from the 29th highest in unemployment when Romney took office to the 18th by the end of his term.[59]Unemployment in Massachusetts rose during Romney's first year from a rate of 5.6 percent in January 2003, when he took office, to a peak of 6.0 percent in mid 2003.
[66] It then steadily declined over the remainder of his term, ending at 4.6 percent in January 2007,[66] his last month as governor, for a net improvement in unemployment of 1.0 percent.[59] Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney's first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,[62][67] many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period.[68][62] Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.
Analysis: By invoking the powers of Willard (Romnesia) Romney's "magic amulet"- it will work so long as the majority of US Citizens move to another country.
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Paul Ryan-Bow and Arrow Over-Taxation Repealed!
Ryan became the ranking Republican member of the House Budget Committee in 2007,[56] then chairman in 2011 after Republicans took control of the House. That same year he was selected to deliver the Republican response to the State of the Union address.[57]
Official U.S. Congress portrait of Ryan in 2011
During his 13 years in the House, he has sponsored some 71 bills or amendments,[58] of which two were ultimately enacted into law.[59] One, passed in July 2000, renamed a post office in Ryan's district; the other, passed in December 2008, lowered the excise tax on
arrow shafts.[60][61] Ryan has also co-sponsored 975 bills[59] of which 176 have passed.[62] 22 percent of these bills were originally sponsored by Democrats; the average for Republicans is 19 percent.[59] In 2010, Ryan was a member of the bipartisan National
Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (Bowles-Simpson Commission), which was tasked with developing a plan to reduce the federal deficit. He voted against the final report of the commission.[63]
Democrats do his work-but the Bow and Arrow win is all his. Captain Teabag does it again?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)
The GOP Organized Crime Syndicate is attempting to steal an election with "Discount Bow and Arrows" and a "Forced Relocation Plan"
1funnygirl - And you didn't think it was odd that Jeb Bush was the governor and he promised to deliver Florida to his brother? If Bush had been honorable, he would have conceeded to Gore. Smelled like monkey business to me. Despite that, I would never have wished for Pres. Bush to fail as a president since that would mean the U.S. is having problems, not the president personally as the many (not all) Repubs in Congress vote.
strange? let us not forget wests' campaign manager shouting aloud to people, "if ballots don't work, bullets will!" joyce caufman jan 2011 is this another form of compromise to the GOP? fear fear and nothing but fear. i fear if this delusional romney becomes the boss of our country, people of florida think again, your grandchildren will work to support the middle class of china.
hussein, it says a lot about President Obama. He was raised by his grandfather on his mothers side. He was a good man who didn't bully in prep school, who served his nation in the military, who didn't outsource any jobs to China, who doesn't lie about everything. President Obama was raised by a man who respected not only those in the top 2% of earnings, but the bottom 2% and everyone in between.
Republicans For Obama ?
ok 1st off nice try but how stupid do you think we are ? the Unions you listed never back a Republican so I highly doubt you are a Republican for Obama.
Silverton,
There is a lot more to being a Christian than a profession of faith, church membership and baptism.
That is why Graham pulled down the section of his website on cults.
It isn't the physical that you see, it is the Spirit that is important. In Obama you make your choice by what you see. In Christ, we walk by faith and not by sight.
DB
rednawt3, Obama ,who served his nation in the military?
when did Obama Serve in the military?
Because of America's inability to step outside of the two party system, China will write the history books.
you are an idiot if you believe the economy has gotten better with obama as president... personally i'd love to take a swing at the moron obama. the economy is worse than the day he took office .. he promised to cut debt in half and it has nearly doubled .. unemployment is exactly the same as the day he was elected .. more people are on food stamps that ever ... if this is economic growth to you ... then YES you are a true idiot!!!
obama will destroy medicare with his dumb obamacare plan ..not mitt Romney
Nobama 2012 .. Romney/Ryan 2012
muglitt, the military comment (and other descriptives) was about Obama's grandfather. The man who raised him.
silverton-2953905..(#1.14)..."As an American, it makes me proud to have a leader like President Obama.
As a Christian, it makes me proud to vote for another Christian like President Obama."
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Obama's Religion---Black Liberation Theology--- taught to him for 20+ years by Jeremiah Wright, teaches ---That in order for a white man to be truly repentant, he must give all he has to black folks----Founder, James Cone
Why hasn't he Found a Church to attend in DC....he's been there 4 years.....Said "Rev" Wright was his mentor, confidant, Married him and Michelle, Baptized his children....then threw him under the bus for political expediency.
P.Obama knew early on that he couldn't "keep" the Indonesian Muslim Faith he grew up with as a child and have any sort of political future....His Ghetto accent is pure fakery on the campaign trail, but when he quotes the Koran....It's perfect...it got into his DNA when he was a child.
Black Liberation Theology is Marxist anti-colonialist, redistributionist dogma cloaked in South American Catholicism (The kind Latin American Dictators allowed "The Church" to teach, in order to keep the masses thinking they didn't have their churches taken from them).....it was a matter of survival for the clergy there....
In his UN speech he just said....." The future does not belong to those who slander The Prophet"....You don't even have to read between the lines...Still blaming Benghazi-gate on the video....
Demcrats cant lose even if they do not win the election as then the right wingnuts and their ,illioaire friends have to produce and with their policies all they will get is another 40 years of no one paying attention to them just as we shouled now. They had two chance one in 29 and anothere in 2000 when they controlled everything and both times look what happened A DEPRESSION AND AN ALMST DEPRESSION. then they got control of the house and stalled evertyhting th president wanted to try and now they are blaming him for what they call not getting America going again when it really is.
Muglitt, Obama's grandfather. His mother's father. Obama's father left him when he was a small child and only met once after that. Of course, a no one in Romney's family ever served a day in their lives. This is relevant because of family discussions. Obama's grandfather would have told his grandson about war, whereas Romney's father could never of done that, or his father's father.
Irvmani-"Your soft understanding tone that you praise is hardly ever as real as the anger underneath which is why I am a Republican."
And that guys is the difference between the parties.The Republicans have sunk to being a party full of anger and hatred. Their base is made up of those people. People that are angry at science,angry that women want equality,angry that there is a man of color as our President,angry that minorities have equal rights,angry that their brand of religion can't be forced on everyone else,angry that gay people exist,angry at Americans,because most Americans don't accept their beliefs,angry at the poor because they know that while their own faith says to help them,they don't want too.Angry at life because it just doesn't go their way.So when someone like Romney comes along.Rich,a famous man,and panders to them.Telling them what they want to hear.They see him as their messiah,come to wave a magic wand and make all their troubles disappear.
The angry Republicans,as Joe said are always "betting against America".I want to vote FOR America instead.
Vote Obama/Biden Nov 6th,FOR AMERICA.
Floridians for, Romney Ryan 2012!
Romney 52%!
Obama 45%!
Florida always remember, Obama cancelled America's Space Program! Even today NASA, has no mission!
rednawt3
so your saying because his grand mother and father raised him that makes him a good person, wow if that was the case there would be no crime at all. just as you cant blame the son for the sins of the father you can give the son credit for the fathers good deeds as well. same goes for blaming a party for the actions of one man, you cant tell me the there have not been bad Presidents from both parties.
So Obama was raised by his White Grand parents , and has no history of salivary in his family, yet nearly all blacks in this country voted for him. kind of odd
republican4obama ; I'm a vegetarian that eats all meats across the board like beef, pork, chicken, fish, venison, etc.
AndresTM,
The legal process won in Florida. Get over it. Finished, the end.
Gore challenged and LOST!
As a person that lives in Florida, it may well be true that it's a toss up. This state is about half full of brain dead Religious Right, Teatards and Ignorant far right wing bigots that Mitt just might have a chance. It seems people in Florida have a very short memory. In the 30 years I've lived in this state the only really good times (unless you were a house flipper or banker) were during a time when we had a Democratic Governor. When Jeb Bush and the REPUBLICANS took office the state has been in a downward spiral since then. Heck Florida has had more state elected (REPUBLICAN) officials be brought up on corruption and ethics charges than anywhere else in the nation. And even the current Gov. Rick "Tricky" Scott was brought up on charges of stealing $2.3 Billion from Medicare. And this scum bag Governor is now claiming the unemployment rate has dropped in Florida. The only reason it may have dropped is because NOBODY IS ANSWERING THE PHONES IN TALLAHASSEE.
I really don't know why someone would be stupid enough to vote for a Republican...especially if they live in Florida!!!
Anyone know of a purple or blue state that is sane and fools aren't killing each other with guns???
I know, I know...I'm dreaming.
@Funnygirl
You must have been a glint in your daddy's eye to think Bush ever was elected without help.
Please explain the $100 Million of taxpayer money Jeb Bush spent on Diabold machines only to get rid of them AFTER they were used to put his idiot brother into the White House for a second time. And please explain where the hard drives went that were taken from Katherine Harris's computers never to be seen again.
Just answer those two questions without sounding stupid and I'll even vote for Mitt the pig if you can come close to giving me an answer. I'm not expecting much.
Muglitt in regard to #1.32, The Unions sure as hell back the Democrats. But as a Union member going on 35yrs, the members are sure as hell not on board with Barack Obama,not this time. The Union is in but it's members who are supposed to deliver the vote are f^^king out! Our members are out of work and cant be bought. The Democrat's tried that in Wisconsin and didn't have enough Union people on the payroll. Obama can count on the Union Stimulus workers not about to be getting knocked off the tax payers tit. But there are hundreds of thousands more unemployed voters that realize the President is incapable, and time is money, and his time is up! ROMNEY/RYAN '12 "F" FOREWARD, GET THIS ECONOMY MOVING AT BREAK NECK SPEED,NOW!!
@Risk
Wow, you're just about as good of a liar as Robme/Lyin. Bush is the reason that Florida's space coast is dying. NASA killed itself when it's budgets got so out of hand that Bush couldn't see enough benefit or way for him to skim "cash for cronies" more dough for his buddies.
colormepurple,
Set the record straight. The DieBold machines were purchased by the election commission, not by a single entity.
Do you actually believe a single individual could remove them? No, read, learn and go online to see the factual result. You will discover that the FL Election Commission rules, and if an individual acted on his own, the AG would have been investigating the action. Unless he was the current AG and the man in charge was an Obama hand-picked Csar.
Why do you liberals believe you are so self-ritious and everyone else is plane dumb? Is ther a pill you guys take every morning that gives you the air of superiority? Man, you're smoking the hemp too much.
Pigotry
GOP wants to steal Florida again?
We have to be very clear because Conservatives have said repeatedly this is the "most important election" of their lives and they can't lose it.
This is the guy the GOP "rehired" for the 2012 election fraud:
Nathan Sproul
During the 2004 election, it was alleged that Sproul's company had set up voter registration drives on their premises under the name "America Votes", a name already claimed by a large, progressive organization. In an interview, Mr. Sproul stated that his company sought to register Republicans, but that his employees were instructed to submit forms from anyone who asked to be registered, and that his company had submitted registrations from Democrats and Independents in other states. In Nevada, there were news reports that Sproul's employees had shredded Democratic registration forms and had been told to register only Republicans. Sproul in turn filed a defamation lawsuit against fired employee Eric Russell for the allegations, which Sproul claimed were untrue.
According to a 2005 Baltimore Chronicle article, the Republican Party had paid Nathan Sproul $8,359,161, and alleged this is far more than what had been reported to the FEC.
Liberal rules for the election:
1. If the opponent wins by just a very small margin, it really means that we won. We just have to do enough recounts to prove it.
2. If the recount shows we lost. Then we do another one. If that one shows we lost. We do another. Keep repeating the pattern until it shows we won. Because after all, we know that rule number 1 is never wrong.
3. When it is clear that all recounts will show we lost, we miraculously find uncounted ballots in the trunks of cars. Hey, it worked for Al Franken.
4. If all else fails and we can not steal the office, then we revert to our temper tantrums and stomping our foot for the next four years because as we all know, liberals never lose elections. The people are just too stupid to realize that.
@ConservativeNotRepublican
Sorry but your "Liberal rules" are geared to the Republican party instead and so are Conservative rules.
You see, there was already an intended election fraud a few weeks ago in the same state that caused the election fiasco we're all familiar with: FLORIDA.
Again, "For the benefit" of the GOP. And by the infamous Nathan Sproul...Coincidence, Again??
Nahh!!Unless you want to shine as naive.
@ funnygirl
Now I know that you know nothing about Florida or the Republican political machine in Florida.
LOL In Florida the election commission was all republicans and Harris was not only the secretary of state but was also co/chair of Bush's election effort. Don't try and bull@!$%# me, I've had to live through all the Republican bull@!$%#.
I think you need to go read up on Florida...Start with 1999 forward, no sense hashing over the Ray-Gun and H.W. years. Well that is unless you know nothing about the B.S. term "Trickle Down" since it was born then, probably way before your time.
Now, go read up on your wonderful Nazi Republicans and stop listening to Faux News. You do know they were sued and now they are NOT news but Entertainment so they never have to speak the truth again. Yeah, you can Google that also.
Sorry liberals. Not one recount showed Bush lost. Not one. Not one recount showed Gore won. Not one. Not one done by any mainstream media. Not one done by the state. Not one done by any private individual of any repute. Not one by any major newspaper. NOT ONE! Learn it. Once you've lost at least two recounts, and you STILL insist on continuing to recount, it only shows you have only one interest at heart, and that is stealing an election for your own ego and partisan purposes, not the good of the country. At that point the Supreme Court steps in and says enough. Too bad. You lost.
You lost Florida 12 years ago because more people voted for Bush. That's the bottom line, and liberals STILL don't believe it, and still haven't gotten over it 12 years later. Thus apply rule 1 from my post at 1.53.
They still can't get over the fact that Gore lost. Hell, Gore didn't even carry is own former congressional district, much less his own friggin state. I've lived in Tennessee for over 40 years. We know what a joke Gore is. Gore was, and still is today an arrogant liar.
Get a clue liberals. Forget Florida, all Gore had to do was win Tennessee and he's in. Gore lost, it's been 12 years. Get a life. Grow up. Gore is a loser.
colormepurple
Angry person - READ MY LIPS, GORE LOST! Take a break please and don't stand in your own bull@!$%.
Now you dislike a news outlet. Is there anything you do like other than the liberal stuff your spout?
Like my picture?
Dear Undecided Voter,
Have you simply forgotten what got us here in the first place? You've had 4 years to question the Republican Party and ask them why, with every opportunity they've been given, haven't they produced a piece of legislation that both Democrats and Republicans could be comfortable with that would move this country forward. It took 8 years for Bush's policies to get us where we were 4 years ago and you really expected President Obama to fix everything under 4 years with a "Do Nothing Congress?"
Now down to specifics. Please tell me what Obama policy has had an immediate & negative, impact on
you and how?
1. If you want to go with Obamacare...how has that affected you negatively? The law stops Medicare and Medicaid fraud, expands eligibility up to the age of 26 on your family plan, and expands coverage to those with pre-existing conditions; insurance companies must give you a rebate if you pay more into insurance than what it actually cost you in medical services.
2. The auto bailout - Congress gave money to the auto industry. The auto industry took it for what it was, an opportunity to reorganize and modernize, without having to put hundreds of thousands of people out of work, U.S. wide. The best part, the auto industry paid back the federal government with interest.
Under bankruptcy - you don't get interest paid. Today, the auto industry is stronger and the products are better. In fact, it was such a good deal that according to a report by Greg Palast of The Nation, "Romney and his wife, Ann, made at least $15.3 million -- and perhaps tens of millions more - as a result of bailout funds paid to General Motors."
There is more...the list can go on and on. But let's stops the lies now. They don't change the fact that Republicans are obstructionist
On the budget: President Obama has done an exceptional job under the circumstance's. The President's job is not to lead the Congress - there are three equal branches of government for a reason. His job is to set the agenda for directing this country and it's up to our Congress for getting us there. It is apparent that the many of you have a ridiculous set of expectations. On the subject of Romney being our Commander in Chief, I cannot bring myself to follow a fraud, who supported and protested in favor of the Vietnam War, and then requested a deferment and a trip to France. Romney does not rate to be our Commander in Chief.
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
RE: post #1.24
like father like son. What does that say about Obama. IT ought to scare the living daylights out of every single citizen in this country. It ought to scare people enough to vote for anybody BUT Obama!!!
rednawt 1.31-Obama worships and wants to emulate the actions and beliefs of his biological father. Read up on Obamas' worship of his fathers sick views!!!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!!
LATEST HEADLINES: Iranian regime rooting for Obama!
I can understand why that barbaric regime would support Obama. If I wanted to see America in decline, I guess I would support Obama too!
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OBAMA To Medvedev of Russia: "THIS IS MY LAST ELECTION. AFTER THE ELECTION I CAN BE MORE FLEXIBLE..."
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OBAMA HAS BEEN LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
IT'S TIME TO KICK HIM OUT!
And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China. Romney is the most ruthless and despicable type of business man in our country and the right wants him to be our president. I hope all you conservatives are willing to move to China if you still want your job.
On the day before an election that's supposed to hinge on jobs, taxes and the middle class, Bain Capital, the company Mitt Romney founded, will close the doors of a factory in Freeport, Illinois, and ship 170 good, high-tech jobs to China.
The employees of Sensata Technologies were forced to train their Chinese replacements, and the American flag that long flew over the factory was reportedly removed while the Chinese engineers were visiting the site. A group of workers have set up camp across from the factory -- calling it “Bainport” -- and some supporters have tried to block the trucks hauling equipment out of the plant. According to Dave Johnson, there have been several arrests.
Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.
The most important part of the story is that Sensata Technologies is profitable operating in Illinois. Net income last year was $355 million, up 16 percent from 2010. The company reported total revenues of $1.8 billion in 2011, up almost 19 percent from the year before. According to a company financial statement, “both 2011 net revenue and adjusted net income represent record levels for the company.”
So this has nothing to do with “making hard choices” in the process of turning around a failing business, which is how the Romney campaign describes Bain's corporate raiding. Bain's partners are looking for a modest boost in profits by locating the plant closer to the booming Asian automotive market (Sensata makes high-tech automotive parts). They'll get a small tax break for relocating the plant – the one Mitt Romney insisted did not exist during the first debate – and possibly defer taxes on some of the income the company generates.
I hope all undecided voters will keep in mind the secret meeting that the Republicans held on the day of President Obama's inauguration where they decided that they would block the President at every move and every decision. Paul Ryan was there, too.
The GOP loves their own selfish agenda and their own wealth/power more than they love America.
This is sad, but speaks volumes.
Can we just skip the debate on foreign affairs and have Barry read his concession speech from the teleprompter?
@colormepurple #1.55... you said 'Faux News. You do know they were sued and now they are NOT news but Entertainment so they never have to speak the truth again.'
Please, please, PLEASE seek medical attention as soon as possible. You're suffering from an overdose of ignorance brought on by drinking way too much kool-aid. Do yourself a favor and google it yourself so that you see this lie was disproven YEARS ago! This is the problem with both Dems and Reps during election season: they blindly pass along misinformation without doing their own research. It gives me great pleasure, as a South Florida Independent, to call bullshyt on both sides!
~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Color me Purple. What republican machine there was in Florida lost when Rubio obliterated Charlie Crist in not only the primary for Senate, but the general election for senate.
You know Fedup, Foreign policy debates are usually the debate a sitting President wins. Romney doesn't need to win it at this point. All he has to do is show competency.
Ohio may be in play, but Florida is a lost cause for Obama. Neither campaign is going to Florida as much because the result is already known, Romney wins Florida, the Obama campaign has decided it is too expensive to try and get Florida and are now just trying not to lose Ohio.
Romney/Ryan 2012
The secret to the foreign policy debate is that while the Obama campaign looks to focus on a response to the Libya question, the Romney camp has decide it will briefly mention that cluster but go after Obama on things like his "I will be more flexible after the election" comment to Russia. His poor treatment of Israel, the massacres in Syria, and the many, many other foreign policy gaffes that he probably has not prepared for as much as Libya. When Obama is caught off guard on questions he is awful.
The ROMNEY signs lining the streets in Florida far outnumber the Obama signs!
Will be out on the street in front of the debate with my sign!
16 TRILLION in Debt
23 MILLION Unemployed
Watching Obama leave the white house
PRICELESS!!!
Romney was a pro war Viet Nam demonstrator, then ran to France under the guise of a religious "mission". His "mission" was to avoid the draft and avoid the Viet Nam war.
That is enough for me, the man is a fake, a coward, a liar!
WILL ROMNEY EXPLAIN TONIGHT WHY HE DOES NOT LEAD THE REPUBLICANS TO HELP OUT OUR VETERANS?
WHY DID REPUBLICONS JUST VOTE AGAINST A JOBS BILL TO HELP VETERANS?
BUSH SENDS OUR SOLDIERS INTO IRAQ WAR ON A LIE OF wmd'S IN IRAQ, WHEN IT REALLY WAS FOR WAR PROFITS IN NO BID CONTRACTS FOR CHENEY'S COMPANY HALIBURTON.
Now our soldiers are returning, wounded, and dying from their wounds, their lives turned upside down because of multiple deployments, and what do the war profiteers do to them? They turn their backs on vets and vote against them. Our vets are committing suicide at a record rate, and repubs vote against our troops. With all the money the greedy rich made from war profits, you think that those Greedy rich would ask repubs to pass the jobs bill for vets.....Nope not a chance. Romney did not speak up, Ryan did not speak up for our vets.
Republicans tell our vets that come home that they are the 47% they don't care about.
Soldiers and vets vote for President Obama/Biden and Team democratic America 2012, they have your backs when it is your turn to be protected!
BUSH IGNORED 911 , thousands died.
Bush LIED about Iraq, Thousand died and are wounded and more dying.
Bush quit looking for the killer Bin Laden.
Romney said he would not even look for him
President Obama and Team America killed Bin Laden.
Romney flip flops and says he would have made the same decision as President Obama.
Romney hires 17 of 24 of his advisers from BUSH/CHENEY. Why do you want the nation to suffer once again with his cast of perps who helped bring about the killing thousands of our Americans?
ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE SEND THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS TO AID CHINA!
ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE TAKE PROFITS FROM OVERSEAS AND HIDE THEM IN oFFSHORE ACCOUNTS TO AVOID BEING AN AMERICAN. REAL AMERICANS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICAN WORKERS?
Romney's company Bain is shipping more jobs to china as we speak. Those workers who lost their jobs contacted Romney's office. Romney refuses to do anything to save those America jobs. Romney will profit from this company sending those jobs to China.
Republicons block the vote on 7-19-12 that would end those tax breaks for Romney's company that is now taking those jobs to China. Republicons fully responsible for losing those American jobs once again.
Republicons block the vote to 7-19-12 to give tax breaks to those companies that would bring those jobs back to America. Republicons responsible for blocking jobs that could have come back to America!
CHINA SAYS VOTE FOR ROMNEY BECAUSE HE IS A JOB PROVIDER FOR CHINA!
Sal_C2006
As for colormepurple's remark, he/she might be referring to a law suit against Fox Broadcasting. As for Fox News not really being news and acutally being editorial, all you have to do is ask them:
Here’s the statement by Fox to CNN:
DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU DO SEARCH ON FOX NEWS DUMBER YOU SEE ACTUAL STUDIES THAT SHOW PEOPLE WHO WATCH FOX NEWS ARE ACTUALLY DUMBER FOR WATCHING FOX NEWS?
That's right, so do search on Fox News dumber... and read the actual studies that show people who watch Fox News are actually dumber after watching Fox news.
HERE IS A FACT STORY YOU WILL NEVER SEE ON FOX NEWS! ASK YOURSELF WHY NOT?
REPUBS CAUSE THE ECONOMY TO GROW SLOW, THEN WHINE THAT IT IS NOT GROWING!
RYAN SABOTAGES THE ECONOMY. REPUBS BLOCK BRINGING OFFSHORE JOBS BACK TO AMERICA.
REPUBS DO THEIR BEST TO MAKE AMERICA WORSE!
From dailykos.com 9/6/12 by keepemhonest Story : MAtt APPUZZO FACT CHECK THIS.2009 PAUL RYAN PLOTTED TO SABOTAGE THE ECONOMY.
So, allow me to educate Matt Apuzzo with real facts that really led to the Republican's plotted obstruction to guarantee legislative cluster-f@ck.
FACT 1. In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that on inauguration night, 2009, during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.
FACT 2: Draper wrote the guest list included:
FACT 3: Newt Gingrich confirms meeting took place in an interview with Al Sharpton's Politics Nation on June 12, 2012
FACT 4: Two months after Paul Ryan's covert meeting where they plotted to sabotage the US Economy, in March 2009, Rep. Pete Sessions said Republicans should follow the model of the Taliban in its battles against President Obama.
In the March 2009 interview with National Journal Rep Sessions said:
Rep Pete Sessions went on to say:
FACT 5: Also, at the January 20, 2009 meeting they plotted to suddenly stop supporting any Stimulus Legislation, even though, they all supported Bush/Cheney Stimulus legislation.
FACT 6: Remember, these same Republican members of Congress supported the very Bush/Cheney policies that caused America to teeter on the brink of the 2nd Great Depression and caused the 2007 US Economic Meltdown.
And these same Republican members of Congress:
Not only did these Senior members of Congress plot to destroy the American Economy more than it already was destroyed? They actually carried out their mission:
FACT 7: Last year, during the Debt Ceiling negotiations, Eric Cantor and Sen. Jon Kyl abruptly walked out of negotiations and refused to renew discussions with Democrats. As a result, America's credit rating was lowered which put a smile on Republican's faces.
FACT 8: Meanwhile, the 2009 Sabotage the U.S. Economy covert meeting members, Senators: Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl, Tom Coburn, John Ensign, and Bob Corker have:
FACT 9: The House members who attended the 2009 Sabotage America meeting have been busy rejecting legislation that helps victims of natural disaster.
FACT 10: Paul Ryan and these other same failed Congressmen have been on tv constantly chanting the lie that they were guilty of ... the lie that "President Obama's policies undermine the US Economy."
There are more facts listed...but I think you get the point. repubs obstruct for the greed of money and for their own party to benefit from the greedy rich!
Romney 2012! I'm tired of my money going to lazy people that Obama buys votes from. KMA libs! Buying cells phones?? 16 million? For free to lazy people??? COME ON!!!
OH! And bring the riots. All the lazy people are threatening riots if Romney wins.... Why? Because he is going to take away their food stamps :-P
This coming from a Guy who has Bill Clinton as his Avatar! What a joke.
The TRUTH about Mitt Romney!
Obama has given up on Florida, Virginia and North Carolina, and has put all of his hopes on Ohio and Wisconsin.
Desperation time for Obama - Rasmussen has Romney ahead by 4% in the all-important 'Swing States', and Gallup (who had a distinct pro-DEMOCRATIC bias in 2004 & 2008 averaging over 3%) has Romney ahead by 7% Nationally.
Speaking of foreign policy, did you know that the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ dot org) has declared Turkey led by the man Obama called his best friend among foreign leaders (Erdogan) THE WORST OFFENDER WHEN IT COMES TO FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. Worse than China, and Iran!
TURKEY IS THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE PROTECTION OF JOURNALISTS!
Obama's BEST FRIEND, Erdogan, has arrested more journalists than Iran or China!!!
And in other news: The Iranian regime is rooting for Obama!
And I can understand why that barbaric regime would support Obama. If I wanted to see America in decline, I guess I would support Obama too!
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OBAMA to Medvedev of Russia: "THIS IS MY LAST ELECTION. AFTER THE ELECTION I WILL HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY..."
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OBAMA HAS BEEN LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
IT'S TIME TO KICK HIM OUT!
Regarding those *ahem* cell phones....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/09/28/crazy-for-obama-phones-but-are-they-for-real/
@ LogicReguired: Awesome video! God blesses those that DO NOT show off their good works......
@ Hal-2824511 My fault, let me redo the numbers for ya. It has increased from 7.1 million to 12.5 million during Obama's only term:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp
5 million increase? 1 too many.........
starsailing "DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU DO SEARCH ON FOX NEWS DUMBER YOU SEE ACTUAL STUDIES THAT SHOW PEOPLE WHO WATCH FOX NEWS ARE ACTUALLY DUMBER"
Thanks for the laugh.
According to the NY Times exit polls for voters in 2008, high school dropouts voted for Obama by a 63% vs 35% margin for McCain.
And those who make $30,000 per year or less (who make up the majority of the 47% who pay no income taxes but gets lots of free government services) voted for Obama by a 64% to 33% margin - it appears that Romney was right about those who pay no income taxes but get lots of free services are far more likely to vote for Obama.
WASTED TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!!....THANKS OBUMBO!!!
*DENOTES COMPANIES THAT HAVE FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY
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''Here is what I will say, If four Americans get killed it is not optimal---Barack Obama''
''KARMA IS A REAL BIATCH ISN'T IT OBUMBO?''
"IT'S GONNA BE MONDAY NIGHT OBAMABOWL!!!"
Obumbo gonna get a major ass bbq on Monday night.
About 75 MILLION people gonna be watching obumbo go down in flames!!!!
BREAK OUT THE POPCORN FEISTY...HAAAHHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!
SAY BYE BYE OBUMBO!!!!
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'My son is NOT very optimal... he is very dead': Mother of U.S. diplomat killed in Libya attack slams 'insensitive' Obama's comment about security fiasco
During an interview shown on Comedy Central, Obama responded to a question about his administration's confused communication after the assault by saying: 'If four Americans get killed, it's not optimal.'
REAL CARING MR PRESIDENT!!!
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Asking Obama to explain why he kept mentioning a video for the attack even two weeks later when we now know everyone knew it was a coordinated terrorist attack the next day is in no way using her son as a political tool. Her son is not part of the conversation, Obama's lies are what is being questioned.
Romney won the second debate and the national polls are showing that, Candy Crowly the moderator has been out spinning her horrible performance and has been correcting the record ever since she made that dumb statement. Obama is a liar! He knew it was a terrorist attack but said it was apart of some video demonstration even when they had video evidence and intelligence reports within 24 hours that said nothing of a video, or protest, but several times mentioned terror attack.
I'm not sure Romney wants to be thought of as a natural disaster but I do tend to agree with you he is one. :D
Starsailing:
THAT DOES IT!! You've convinced me. I am NOT voting for George Bush on election day, and that's FINAL!!
Hey, ya gotta draw a line in the sand someplace ya know!
If R/R get into the White House and appoint conservative Supreme Court justices, women will be subjected to vaginal probes at all customs checkpoints. How else will they determine that a woman received an abortion outside of the country?
You'd like to be the one using the vaginal probes wouldn't you Mr. Pillar of the community....Bill " I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton?
Now there's a real icon!!!!
No objective comment on my comment ticked off?
You cannot argue against it because you know it is true.
I find the GOP must have a real sense of humor. They know that in order to win the Whitehouse, they must carry Florida and Ohio; yet they chose as their standard bearers Mitt "let GM go Bankrupt" Romney and Paul "vouchers for Medicare" Ryan.
Its kind of like Romney's 3 country world tour, where he proceeded to insult 2 out of the 3 countries he visited. Good thing he didn't visit 20 countries or we would probably be fighting WWIII already.
I find it very disheartening that the last four years so many GOP/TP members have shown such incredible disrespect for the Office of the President.
I voted for Bush twice and occasionally I would be irked by the Democrats saying something against him, but for the most part the Dem's respected Bush's position as President and tried to work for the better good of the nation and not just their own selfish interests. This time has been totally different with the most vile language and contempt I have ever witnessed in over forty years of following politics. And the worst part was the secret meeting the Republicans, including Newt Gingrich and Paul Ryan, held on Inauguration Day 2009 when they decided jointly they would not support anything President Obama tried to do during his term, even if it was something the Republicans had proposed in the first place!
I was always taught to respect my President even if I disagreed with his policies. It is a shame that so many citizens do not have honor anymore for themselves, their country, or their President anymore. President Obama has my respect even more now for facing such hatred with staunch dignity and amazing grace.
America, even with all her problems, is still a land of freedom and opportunity, but it will never be great again until more of its people can behave civilly.
We can disagree without destroying each other.
muglitt, Dont forget USS Cole, and the assassination attempt on Clinton in the Philippines. If Clinton worried about the top of his desk as he did to what was under it 911 may have been averted. Wonder what Sandy Berger wanted to hide Sooo Baaad?
CnR Why is it George Washington was the only President that didn't blame the nations problems on past administrations?
***SCAM ALERT ****** SCAM ALERT********SCAM FRAUD ALERT!!*********ROMMELSCAM ALERT!!!!!***
That IS Right, the republicanCrimeCartelSoldier MittTaxPittanceRommel and his side kick Lyin'Ryan are running a VOTING MACHINE CHEAT SCAM Which: DELETES Democrat Votes and Keeps republican Aristocrat Votes. These Aristocrats are the same Lineage as their relatives from The French Revolution; NO WONDER THEY WERE SENT TO THE GUILLOTINE. HERE IS SOLID EVIDENCE:
To everyone's amazement, we learn that two
members of the Hart Intercivic board of directors, Neil
Tuch and Jeff
Bohl, have made direct contributions to the Romney campaign. This,
despite the fact that they represent 40 percent of the full board of directors
of a company whose independent, disinterested and studiously non-partisan status
in any election taking place on their voting machines would seemingly be a 'no
brainer'.
To Mr. Bohl's credit, after giving a total
of $4,000 to "Romney For President", it must have occurred to him that it might
not look so good for a board member of a company whose voting machines are to be
a part of the presidential election to be playing favorites—so he gave $250 to
Barack Obama to sort
of balance the scales.
Mr. Tuch? Not so much.
Interestingly, Mr. Bohl lists himself as an
investor at H.I.G. Capital for his Romney contributions but his far smaller
donation to Obama was done as "Jeff Bohl, self-employed innkeeper".
And finally, we learn that H.I.G. is the
11th largest of all the contributors to the Romney effort.
Did I say "finally"? My bad...because there
is, indeed, more.
Can you guess who is reported to have a
financial relationship with H.I.G. Capital
Numerous media sources,
including Truthout,
are reporting that Solamere Capital—the investment firm run by Mitt Romney's
son, Tagg, and the home of money put into the closely held firm by Tagg's uncle
Scott, mother Anne and, of course, the dad who might just be the next President
of the United States—depending upon how the vote count turns out, in our little
tale, in the State of Ohio—have shared business interests with H.I.G. either
directly or via Solamere Advisors which is owned, in part, by Solamere Capital,
including a reported investment in H.I.G. by either Solamere Capital or Solamere
Advisors.
Lee Fang, in
his piece for The Nation exploring the government related activities of
various companies in which Solamere has an interest writes-
"Meanwhile, HIG Capital—one of the largest
Solamere partners, with nearly $10 billion of equity capital—owns a number of
other firms that are closely monitoring the federal government. "
While the Cincinnati scenario is —at this
point—fiction, the rest of this story is all too true, including the part where
the voting machines to be used in Hamilton County will be those provided by Hart
Intercivic.
And while I am not suggesting conspiracies
or that anyone would get involved in any foul play here, most
particularly the GOP candidate for President, how is it possible that so many
people could exercise so much bad judgment?
The sanctity of voting in America is
supposed to be one of our most important virtues. So concerned are we with a
'clean' process that James O'Keefe has made a career entrapping, video taping
and destroying those sympathetic to Democratic Party candidates and causes who
cross the line when it comes to the voting process. And that's just fine. If Mr.
O'Keefe can legitimately expose someone engaging in voter fraud, he most
certainly should call them out.
So, why would these individuals who serve
on the board of directors of Hart Intercivic go out of their way to make a
contribution to any political candidate given the critical importance
of their company remaining above reproach when it comes to the political
process? And why would those who run the company that owns Hart Intercivic be
giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to a political candidate? And why would
a political candidate and his family have a financial relationship with a
company that owns a chunk of the voting machine company that will be counting
the actual votes given to that political candidate or his opponent?
Keith Olbermann was suspended from his job
at MSNBC for donating a couple hundred bucks to a local candidate that was a
friend of his. Why? Because his employer required that journalists at the
network stay free of having given such contributions to any candidate
for all the obvious reasons.
Is it really too much to ask that those who
control the voting machines that record and count the votes of our elections be
held to at least the same standard?
Hopefully, everything will go swimmingly in
Cincinnati on Election Day. And, if it doesn't, it will no doubt be the result
of honest error.
Yet, because of this uncomfortable chain of
ownership, we now find ourselves with one more headache among the many headaches
that accompany the important work of choosing an American president and
believing that the process was a fair one—particularly when such an election
comes down to a very few votes as may well be the case on Election Day,
2012.
Really, guys. You couldn't find anything
else to invest in? You couldn't donate all those hundreds of thousands to
charity rather than put it into political contributions so that your fellow
countrymen would have no reason to ever doubt or question the results of so
important an election—or any election for that matter, even if it's the choice
of a county dogcatcher?
I truly wonder sometimes just what these
allegedly smart people have inside their heads—or, more importantly, their
hearts. And Fellow and Sister Americans, WE KNOW Rommel and EddiMunster are gonna rig the voting machines as they intend to rig Medicare and Social Security AND NEW WARS...And Some NAIVE Voters STILL want to vote for THESE CROOKS????
PhantomBeast makes it easy for you and lessons your suffering: Vote to keep Prez O in the Whitehouse as We need the guy; Hear That Fellow Men Voters????
How much money did Obama receive from UAW? Same ones that received Millions from Bail Out.
I'm glad the President saved all those auto worker jobs.
It will go down as one of the wisest decisions in Presidential history.
Ask the Auto workers that watched their factories close After bail Out only to see their production move to Mexico and China.
DEMOCRATS Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud-
7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots.
12 Democrats have been Charged in Georgia for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
8 Arrested for Absentee Voter Fraud in Madison County, Florida
NAACP Executive Sentence to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
4 Wake County, North Carolina Democrats have Admitted to Voting for Obama TWICE Each in 2008
2 Daytona Beach City Democrat Commissioner and his Campaign Manager arrested for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
newnet14.com
Three Arkansas Democrats and a police officer pleaded guilty to absentee voter fraud on Wednesday as Democrats across the country insist Voter ID laws are not necessary.
freerepublic.com
Wendy Rosen a Maryland Democrat has dropped out of a congressional race after the state party said she cast ballots there and in Florida in the 2006 and 2008 elections.
Those were the FEW that were caught!
roc: lol....Washington didn't have that luxury. But, unlike so many politicians of today, Washington also took personal responsibility for the events that took place under his leadership, even though there were other people he could have blamed at the time when things were going badly during the war, prior to becoming president, even if not an entire past administration. At the time, there were no term limits on the president. He was urged to serve a third term, and turned it down. Washington was wise beyond his years.
Unfortunately, the latest scandal of GOP voter fraud in Virginia is reminiscent of the Watergate/Nixon scandal when Republican hoodlums broke into Democratic headquarters.
This is a desperate, sad event that replays itself with the GOP every election.
a few weeks ago, news broke that GOP-affiliated consultant groups intended to commit voter fraud to steal the electio. ACORN was never real, and GOP is the real thief - remember Bush v. Gore?
In the end, it's whose economic plan do you trust.
Obama's policies have seen growth of the economy each and every quarter since he was elected. If you don't believe me google GDP chart and look for yourself.
Romney's plan sounds great, but he won't define the loopholes he would close to pay for it. Even with closing most of the loopholes, most economists say that he can't pay for the 20% tax decrease. Also, Romney wants to maintain military spending levels despite the fact that both wars are winding down, and hasn't said how he will pay for that.
Conservative Romney was clearly supporting the wealthy over the poor (47% comment). Moderate Mitt is all about the middle class, but how can you trust that when he's held so many changing positions.
So go with what you know that is working, or an experiment based on trickle down economics that we know from the Bush years was a failure.
It would seem that a prior Republican governor for Florida is supporting Obama in this election.
Yes, Charlie Crist, the popular former GOP Governor of Florida supports President Obama and spoke at the Democratic National Convention saying that he would never forget how the Obama Administration helped out his state during the economic Bush/Cheney disaster, and also during the Gulf oil spill. He had nothing but praise for the President, even though he said he did not agree with the President on everything.
He also said that he had not left the Republican Party, but that the Republican Party had left him.
Romney/Ryan?
Unemployment and new jobs creation
On average, unemployment rates were slightly worse in the rest of the nation than in Massachusetts for the first three years of Romney's term.[59][62] By his final year in office, the state was struggling to keep pace with the rate of falling unemployment nationwide.[59]
Massachusetts' national ranking leapt from the 29th highest in unemployment when Romney took office to the 18th by the end of his term.[59]Unemployment in Massachusetts rose during Romney's first year from a rate of 5.6 percent in January 2003, when he took office, to a peak of 6.0 percent in mid 2003.
[66] It then steadily declined over the remainder of his term, ending at 4.6 percent in January 2007,[66] his last month as governor, for a net improvement in unemployment of 1.0 percent.[59] Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney's first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,[62][67] many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period.[68][62] Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.
Analysis: By invoking the powers of Willard (Romnesia) Romney's "magic amulet"- it will work so long as the majority of US Citizens move to another country.
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Paul Ryan-Bow and Arrow Over-Taxation Repealed!
Ryan became the ranking Republican member of the House Budget Committee in 2007,[56] then chairman in 2011 after Republicans took control of the House. That same year he was selected to deliver the Republican response to the State of the Union address.[57]
Official U.S. Congress portrait of Ryan in 2011
During his 13 years in the House, he has sponsored some 71 bills or amendments,[58] of which two were ultimately enacted into law.[59] One, passed in July 2000, renamed a post office in Ryan's district; the other, passed in December 2008, lowered the excise tax on arrow shafts.[60][61] Ryan has also co-sponsored 975 bills[59] of which 176 have passed.[62] 22 percent of these bills were originally sponsored by Democrats; the average for Republicans is 19 percent.[59] In 2010, Ryan was a member of the bipartisan National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (Bowles-Simpson Commission), which was tasked with developing a plan to reduce the federal deficit. He voted against the final report of the commission.[63]
Democrats do his work-but the Bow and Arrow win is all his. Captain Teabag does it again?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)
The GOP Organized Crime Syndicate is attempting to steal an election with "Discount Bow and Arrows" and a "Forced Relocation Plan"
I don't suppose you can back up your typical delusional rant with any REAL facts? This is just a rhetorical question so there's no real pressure for a dingle-berry like you to respond!
BTW, I you heard the news report about how liberal dems whined to the ACLU about a vast conservative plot (hahahaha) to interfere with minorities, at the voting polls, who were going to vote for your messiah, obama. The ACLU inspired the UN to bring in 44 international vote monitors to cover various voting areas for any violations? Question: will these monitors also be checking to be sure there is no voter fraud being committed, also? You leftists are very paranoid - I can guarantee that when Romney beats obama you all will be crying foul and demanding all sorts of foolishness and make wild claims meant only to prolong and disrupt the inevitable.
Pigotry Yes I remember Bush / Gore. And even the liberial media had to admit Bush won, they finally state it in this article. It is funny how liberials never can handle the truth. America can not handle anther four years of desaster. Obama's policys have failed terribly. All he promotes is spending and division.
Mason, it is about time we get a president that will promote job growth instead of lip service. Even with total control of the government he did nothing to even help create jobs. Obama is a great Snake Oil Salesman, but nothing else. His word means nothing.
Remember Florida with hanging chad's. The palm beach seniors should had brought their reading glasses.
Thanks to the supervisors of elections,"A Republican Stooge" the election went bad. Florida played dirges in the dark. We got a wrong way president and trillions in debt. His friends got richer and banking sunk to the toilet. We are still fighting wars in places that only cost us billions. Thank you GWB for all this, but most of all,thank you for blaming the black man. That was truly a miracle.
Silverton, good post. Let me admit I don't agree with President Obama about everything as well. I have been a moderate democrat my whole life but have been known to vote republican for president on at least two occasions. I voted for Nixon his first time and then Reagan his first term. Both times I had "buyer's remorse". I have also voted republican for Michigan's governor once. Governor Engler. Again "buyer's remorse". President Obama has done a great job considering the gop pledging to make him a one term president no matter how much it hurts the US economy.
Obama/Biden 2012
silverton
Crist was barely identifiable as part of the Republican party. When put up against a strong conservative, the party chose the more conservative. Then instead of supporting Rubia he ran an independent campaign and finished worse than in the primary. No, Charlie left the farm a long time ago.
you are an idiot if you believe the economy has gotten better with obama as president... personally i'd love to take a swing at the moron obama
And you are also if you believe any of that hype you bought into. Here is some advice two things 1 do some research and you will find that what you posted is a buch of ca ca and second enjoy your visit with the secret service for the threat!
Giantego, I don't usually post on poor grammer and typing, but you will be an exception.
Please give back that GED. You cheated on your exams.
Pigo you have the correct name. Acorn was not real???!!! Go count your food stamps and leave these discussions to tax paying member of our society. Maybe some pigs feet for din din!1
What do we know about Romney and his plans for America? Well one truism I've learned in life is that to know a politician,you look at their past and who supports them.Here are a few articles that will do that.
1.Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital
How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829#ixzz29yuUE8bl
2.Right-Wing Billionaires Behind Mitt Romney
They're trying to buy a presidency - and they expect a big payoff on their investment.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/right-wing-billionaires-behind-mitt-romney-20120524#ixzz29yv866ff
3.Employees of Romney Family's Secret Bank Tied to Fraud, Money Laundering and Drug Cartels
http://truth-out.org/news/item/12231-employees-of-romney-familys-secret-bank-tied-to-fraud-money-laundering-and-drug-cartels
Romney Ryan, 2012, and Beyond!
Wow how stupid it gets. God does not even like people like Romney
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Wanna see some of the proposed legistlation you are in for if you elect the republicans? Google ALEC and browse. This is the site wher busnesses send ideas (slanted of course) so right wingers can pass them into law. Make your stomach turn but hey it happened right under the noses of the germas a few years back
Giantego you really need to read the bible. God loves us one and all He is though disappointed in a lot of us. He gave us a reason to love Him back and most have forgotten what it is. And to be honest the democratic party did their best not to include GOD in the parties platform so maybe you should have another talk with God and see what He really means.
Romney wasn't a businessman. Bain, brought up again, wasn't a business that helped companies grow. Romney is a liar and a thief.
Do you really know the role of an investment capital company? A lot of the successes of Bain are still flourishing making profits in a down-economy.
Where do you guys go to make this stuff up and actually believe it? And we who disagree are the ones with limited intelligence?
It must be getting hard to defend Obama for you guys.
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
Was reading an article yesterday that lead to some links to youtube. Was truly amazed at the large number of black individuals and groups that are against Obama! It taught me that there are a few misconceptions about ALL balcks being pro-Obama jsut because of color. Very refreshing to see that MANY see past the swagger of Obama to the real arrogance, the real hate he has for Americans, and the real things that he values that are NOT American values.
@gianatego-- Sorry bub, God is not pleased by people that think they can say what it is he does and doesn't like. Your no kind of christian if you think its' OK to take a swipe at peole who's opinions differ for yours then attempt to justify it by ridiculously attempting to show that is what god believes. YOU FAIL!!!! The dems have doing everything in their power to keep God out of everything. Think God really likes that???? I'd kinda doubt it!!!!!!
Risk1 - start praying - you're gonna get 4 more years of Obama and then 8 years of Hillary. How's them apples?
I have been meeting more and more so called christian conservatives who said they are not even going to vote in this election. They claim they don't like Obama because they think he is Muslim and they won't vote for Romney because he is Mormon and they think that mormonism is some secret evil cult. Go figure, I guess ignorance is bliss with these people.............................
Pigotry "ACORN was never real,"
I guess it must have been a 'phantom' that got convicted of voter fraud in several States then.
LOL
Alex2212 "Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:"
Who's better at running Congress?
Since it's Congress that sets the spending Budgets, sets the Deficits, and passes legislation affecting jobs and the economy (The President cannot spend one penny that has not been authorized by Congress), let's look at the record of Congresses over the last 30 years (Through 2010);
JOBS (39,346,000 Net New Jobs)
Jobs created when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = 8,605,000 net new jobs.
Jobs created when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = 23,239,000 net new jobs.
Jobs created when Congress was split (8 years) = 7,502,000 net new jobs.
DEFICITS (a) ($7.304 Trillion)
Total Deficits when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $5.022 Trillion.
Total Deficits when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $1.219 Trillion.
Total Deficits when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.063 Trillion.
NATIONAL DEBT ($12.878 Trillion = 93% of all the Debt in our History)
Total New Debt when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $7.859 Trillion.
Total New Debt when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $3.238 Trillion.
Total New Debt when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.781 Trillion.
ECONOMIC GROWTH ($11.784 Trillion of GDP growth)
Total Growth (GDP) when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $3.856 Trillion. Total Growth (GDP) when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $5.525 Tillion.
Total growth (GDP) when Congress was split (8 years) = $2.403 Trillion.
Draw your own conclusions, but these are undisputed facts from government sources.
(a) Deficits do not equal the increase in the Debt because of the government's 'funny accounting'.
Sources - Democrats controlled Congress from 1987 – 1994, and from 2007 – 2010. Republicans controlled Congress from 1995 – 2000, and from 2003 – 2006. There was a split Congress from 1980 – 1986 and for 2001 & 2002. Links to government data sites are as follows;
Jobs - ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
Deficits - http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals See Table 1.3
National Debt - http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals See Table 7.1
1funnygirl - why is it you Rep trolls use good looking women as their avatars? is it so people pay attention to your unfounded, mindless drivel?
All of your posts are non-facts backed up by nothing. Defending Bain? good luck with that, since people are lining up with testimonials about how they were used and tossed aside after their company was bought and flipped. do you even know how a company like Bain operates? it sure isn't by creating jobs and profit for those underlings who were pawns in the vulture capitalist game...
And as for Bush and Gore and election fraud - get ready for Voter Fraud 2.0, which is happening at a district near you. I live in Florida, so I don't have very far to look...
Small Business Owners,
Check out the link below. For those of you looking for a job...working for a small business that's trying to grow may be the way to go.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/factsheet/supporting-small-businesses-and-creating-jobs
Uncle Bob, that is a FANTASTIC suggestion...why dont we do just that. But we play the full 60 minutes around here Uncle Bob....both sides get equal footing....fair is fair, remember that. You took care of Romney, so whaddya say I handle the Obama supporters.
Lets start with some 'advisors and confidants' David Ayers; personal friend of both Clinton and Obama, known domestic terrorist. Frank Davis; Member, Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama. Jeremiah Wright, Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor, Tony Rezko, Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing. Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam Leader, racist. Raila Ordinga Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama's Cousin.
I dont know about anyone else, but I think I would rather have Romney's "skeletons" than President Obama's.
Why vote for the straight-laced workaholic, successful, responsible businessman, when you can vote for a cool, beer-drinking, cigarette-smoking, drug-using, golf and basketball playing, finger-pointing Community Organizer?
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!
In the end, it's whose economic plan do you trust.
Obama's policies have seen growth of the economy each and every quarter since he was elected. If you don't believe me google GDP chart and look for yourself.
Romney's plan sounds great, but he won't define the loopholes he would close to pay for it. Even with closing most of the loopholes, most economists say that he can't pay for the 20% tax decrease. Also, Romney wants to maintain military spending levels despite the fact that both wars are winding down, and hasn't said how he will pay for that.
Conservative Romney was clearly supporting the wealthy over the poor (47% comment). Moderate Mitt is all about the middle class, but how can you trust that when he's held so many changing positions.
So go with what you know that is working, or an experiment based on trickle down economics that we know from the Bush years was a failure.
Do you want to vote for a non-working, bon bon eating, car elevator driving out of touch political chameleon, or a consistent, middle class supporting, foreign policy champion, that has kept the economy growing each and every quarter since he's been elected.
Jody, I supposed an ex-drug using, drunk was a terrific president? Just ask the Families of the nearly 5,000 Americans fitted in body bags, which he is directly responsible for, how they feel.
Attorney, Senator and Community Organizer as opposed to tax avoider and out-sourcer and spineless straight laced hypocrite. I'd rather have a community organizer any day of the week, at least the President knows what the real people are like and they bleed red instead of blue.
So Jody the name calling an attempts at character assassination make you look like the perfect Elephant on Parade.
Obama 2012
well said sky
Jody+numbers, only a person like you would want a person who could screw you and take it for how you want, what has Romney given you that you want him in so bad. You call the President a communist, how in the hell would you know if he was a communist or not - are you privy to information that we don't know about. At least he is a normal person who does what all normal people do - Romney is such a phony, lies, puts money in off shore accounts, builds elevators for his cars, etc - would you consider this normal, I don't think so. You live in a dream world, if you think Romney really cares about you think again, all he wants is your vote. You are probably one of the people who voted for the Republicans in 2010 because they promised the people jobs, "what jobs did they produce" not one.
Jody, workaholic??? Bain is an LBO that destroys companies by plundering the assets and turning a quick profit on the liquidation. I don't know if mittens has ever worked a day in his life. sitting at a desk twisting numbers around so you can screw people out of their jobs is not what most people would call work.
Mitt Romney is nothing more than "Chainsaw" Al Dunlap if Al could have outsourced to China. Every business school for the past 30 years has used Al Dunalp as the example of how to get rich quick by destroying companies. Business schools will now be using Mitt "Vain" Romney as the best example of outsourcing jobs to China while destroying the American middle class.
Larue Lindsay MBA
Lake Forest Graduate School of Management class of 1998
Jody, I would take someone with experience helping others than one that helps himself profit by sending jobs overseas.
Yes why support a business man that's made hundreds of millions at others expense and offshore's over 100 million to avoid taxes. That doesn't make a very good American much less a very good president. He claims it was invested off shore through his blind trust but fails to note his, "blind trust" is ran by his personal attorney, friend and man he appointed president of his caymans shell company. Are even republicans that stupid?
Larry... very good point and also very true. Unfortunately, the answer to your question is YES, there's a good portion of the country who will vote against their best interest, just to get that black man out of their White House. That's really what it's all about
IN your imagination can you see Rommey try to shoot a hoop?? That would be so funny I would fall down struggling to keep from heaving. He couldn't hit a baseball thrown by an 8 year old. BTW, does he have any sort of a "normal" type hobby?? Nope, doesn't believe in wasting his precious time away from finding another company to make a 300% invesment return while people look for an $8.00 and hour job. Give me a break, he is not what America needs. His lack of basic knowledge of how things work would leave him in a lurch in any discussion with normal people.
miami -
Then I guess you won't be voting for Obama then, will you? With his bailout of GM and Chrysler, thousands of jobs went overseas. When he basically shut down drilling in the gulf, thousands more went overseas.
The most that Romney can be held accountable for is 879.
So, who has sent more jobs overseas?
Jody, why u be a playa hater?
Romney/Ryan?
Unemployment and new jobs creation
On average, unemployment rates were slightly worse in the rest of the nation than in Massachusetts for the first three years of Romney's term.[59][62] By his final year in office, the state was struggling to keep pace with the rate of falling unemployment nationwide.[59]
Massachusetts' national ranking leapt from the 29th highest in unemployment when Romney took office to the 18th by the end of his term.[59]Unemployment in Massachusetts rose during Romney's first year from a rate of 5.6 percent in January 2003, when he took office, to a peak of 6.0 percent in mid 2003.
[66] It then steadily declined over the remainder of his term, ending at 4.6 percent in January 2007,[66] his last month as governor, for a net improvement in unemployment of 1.0 percent.[59] Much of the improvement in unemployment during Romney's first three years in office reflected the loss of working-age adults from the labor force,[62][67] many of them having left Massachusetts for other states during the period.[68][62] Massachusetts experienced one of the highest levels of net out-migration of any state during Romney's term.
Analysis: By invoking the powers of Willard (Romnesia) Romney's "magic amulet"- it will work so long as the majority of US Citizens move to another country.
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Paul Ryan-Bow and Arrow Over-Taxation Repealed!
Ryan became the ranking Republican member of the House Budget Committee in 2007,[56] then chairman in 2011 after Republicans took control of the House. That same year he was selected to deliver the Republican response to the State of the Union address.[57]
Official U.S. Congress portrait of Ryan in 2011
During his 13 years in the House, he has sponsored some 71 bills or amendments,[58] of which two were ultimately enacted into law.[59] One, passed in July 2000, renamed a post office in Ryan's district; the other, passed in December 2008, lowered the excise tax on arrow shafts.[60][61] Ryan has also co-sponsored 975 bills[59] of which 176 have passed.[62] 22 percent of these bills were originally sponsored by Democrats; the average for Republicans is 19 percent.[59] In 2010, Ryan was a member of the bipartisan National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (Bowles-Simpson Commission), which was tasked with developing a plan to reduce the federal deficit. He voted against the final report of the commission.[63]
Democrats do his work-but the Bow and Arrow win is all his. Captain Teabag does it again?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan_(politician)
The GOP Organized Crime Syndicate is attempting to steal an election with "Discount Bow and Arrows" and a "Forced Relocation Plan"
Tammy,
Cite your resource of Romney's outsourcing numbers. BTW have you seen what is going on in Freeport Illinois with Sensata? So if 51% of Romney's 8 million dollar investment is in Sensata stock and the factory is now outsourced, how much money does Romney get?
170 families devastated by BAIN and Romney will not even go and talk to them. They are nothing to Romney so why do you think he is in it for all of us? This is Romney's world pure and simple.
Its like Batman and Robin. This duo of shape shifters have more baggage than a 747 going to PR.
Chameleons making a extreme conservative into a moderate. He has to payoff all those heavy weight supporters. Who do you think will pay for that!
LooLoo,
Do you ever read all the posts here? There is just as many distasteful remarks about President Obama as there is Ex-Gov Romney. The difference is the remarks about Romney from the dems are mostly true. You can take one thing out of context and we are to believe you?
Pigotry your so full of it!
Obama already took $750 billion from the seniors. He also wants the military vets to pay their own healthcare. He has ignored the Latinos, Blacks and Gays and the middle class.
January 2013 the new Obamacare tax begins. It will add $1,700 dollars per year to the middle class tax burden.
Obamas last jobs bill cost taxpayers $1 million dollars per job created and most of them have been laid off already.
4 more years of this??
Your insane!
Why vote for the straight-laced workaholic, successful, responsible businessman
If there were one running I may have considered him but all you have running is a blood sucking lying phony who was a loser as governor of a small state that practically runs itself
miamiriver
Then you must also dislike Microsoft, Nike, any computer manufacturer, PC board manufacturer and, oh, Obama. Obama has outsourced jobs to China with US taxpayer money.
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
rednawt3-post #3.18 "the difference in the remarks about Romney from the dems are mostly true." ARe your eyes brown???? Cause bub you are certainly full up past your eyes with something and that something sure ain't truth, honesty or respect for a person right to have opinions that differ from your own. In fact much like that attitude of your liar-in-chief, Obama.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
skrewdworld,
Do you have something of substance to write about? That's what I thought. Better yet, without repeating the usual Republican talking points, that are almost always unsupported by any facts, I challenge you to talk about Obama's record in terms of how they have had a negative impact on you personally. Thing's like, ahh well, I don't know, maybe ahh - Obamacare; deficit; the auto, financial market, housing bailouts; stimulus etc. You see, Republicans have run the gambit on personal attacks against the President. Before you go there about the attacks on Romney, don't, because none of the attacks against Romney have been as personal and as cruel as what I've heard: The references of the President being a ni*ger, or being from Kenya, a terrorist, a liar, etc. Why? Because you can't attack him on his record.
I challenge you to look at the voting records of your Republican Senators and Representatives over the last 4 years. You'll see the same exact thing I did and the picture is very clear and very ugly...Republican Congressman were antagonists and obstructed every measure that would move this country forward. Your Republican Congressman thwarted every attempt to pass legislation that would make life easier for you, me and every other American. Why? Because there are a few in your Party, in Public Office, that are closet racists and sexists. Their tone, actions, and votes support the facts. They don't like the idea of a black man in office and believe women should be in the kitchen - barefoot and pregnant. Pure and simple. When are you and people like you, finally going to take a step back and look at the bigger picture? Do answer...because we all know that it will never happen.
Homorules, Prober and Swallow, all Liberal posters on here. Is there a pattern here? LOL.
Well said Double Jeopardy. I will keep checking back fo see if anyone can answer to you.
The numbers of Bain and Romney's outsourcing from what I have seen is 15,000+ jobs directly. They have also built a business consulting others how to do it with an outsourcing model developed by Bain.
Obama will be giving his concession speech in just 16 days! I can’t wait for Nov 6th!
Romney/Ryan 2012
NO, that'll be Romney. He'll blame the media, all of the debate monitors, and the lack of support from his own party.
We'll also find out that Romney took advantage of the tax holiday given by the IRS to Americans holding their money overseas.
Keep thinking that Jody and you will experience a huge let down on election day. Im a right of center Independent voting a straight democratic ticket this year. I voted for Bush & McCain but I will never and i say never vote for Romney. The man is unfit to hold office.
I don't see any liberal posts on the embassy in Libya. Have you watched the videos today? Have you heard the cables read? 14 days AFTER Obama KNEW that was a terrorist attack he lied to the UN 6 times saying it was an 11 minute video. Obama and Clinton are still lying today about why they pulled the security. The head of security said it was not about money, there was plenty of money, it was a white house decision. Obama and Candy lied at the last debate. She had to lead him into his answers 4 times??? This is the man you are touting as a Christian and trust? You better see 1016.
When the elections over be sure no sharp objects are lying around.
CoCo,
That is because it was the consulate that was attacked, not the embassy.
Romney won't be giving a concession speech. He will just let his people put out a press release. OBAMA stole my office. Now I have to get to work before he closes my tax benefits to outsource even more jobs. A$$hole 47%ers, see? I told ya so.
Obama/Biden 2012
Try using what little grey matter you have. Unless you earn 2 million or more yearly,he doesn't give a rats ass for you. You are only pawns. If you hate Obama,vote of Goode from Virgina.
CoCo, go watch the rose garden press conference. I dare you.
A week ago Biden shows up in an Iowa Shopping plaza. 500 People
Yesterday Ryan showes up in the same shopping plaza to 1200.
Still think Iowa is in Obama's hands. 16 days until we really know.
BTW; Obama is running out of money. He just borrowed $15 million from B o A.
CoCo don't waste time expecting Obama, his administration or his supporters to EVER be honest about the murders of our 4 Americans!!!!
Rednawt you should not waste time with your rose garden spew. Obama did NOT say thatt it was a terrorist attack, he called it acts of terror, ANY act of horrific violence is terror. Every new report, written or televised has Obama and his adminstartion BLAMING IT ALL ON THE VIDEO long after the fact!!!!!! No matter how you and Oblunder butt attempt to spin it THOSE FACTS WON'T CHANGE!!!
I will be voting Romney this election.
Lost all hope, and now only left with little change.. Obama can move forward... Towards the door out of the White House.
“It is easier to do a job right than to explain why you didn’t.” ~ Millard Filmore
Well Bubba, herer in Florida, early voting starts on Oct. 27th, all three in our household will be voting for the President, my husband, my 93 year old Daddy, retired USAF/ArmyAirCorp.Vet and myself, all of us are 47%'ers, file taxes and we get refunds because......? Sorry such moochers and parasites. Will drive any Soul to the Poll that needs it.
Obama 2012
Skyparrot, I live in Florida also. And i am glad that you and your family are getting out to vote. In my opinion Obama is not the one for me, That being said i would rather see people get out and vote even if their view is different than mine. As this is what makes America great. Everyone has a voice to help decide who the President is going to be.
And if our candidate wins or lose at the end of the day we all are in this together. It really is about We the people, not just a political party.
That all being said i hope you the best.
too bad baba badass and looloo.ser, if romney gets in, tea party will get rid of minimum wage, and we'll compete with china with laborers making $1.00 an hour. your grandkids will have no hope or future. mitt's out to protect the 1% and spend two trillion in defense contracts to his buddies to help. at any cost. a vote for romney is a vote for the end of the middle class. he does NOT care about you, about helping the middle class, it's all lies. romney/ryan is bush/cheney on steroids.
why do republicans believe anything they're told and don't depend on history and facts? in the past 58 years, democrat presidents have created more than twice the amount of jobs than republican presidents. all republicans do at election time is yell, scream and bully their way into office. where's the dignity in that?
if you liked how our economy and jobs were going when bush left office, is what president obama inherited and spent to get us going in the right direction, he literally built the floor to stop the crash, then you're going to love four years of romney. no future for your kids or grandkids. he'll spend spend spend on cutting education resources, privatizing your social security so it's spun to nothing by wall street theives, having NO insurance, for the rich and those who are working, once you're old enough, they want you to die, no more use for you. you simply cost them money. only pensions for salaried management, nothing for workers. you don't deserve it, you make their billions, but only deserve to die. they'll reward entrepenurials to an extent, acknowledge you and then hit you with a leveraged buyout. all big business is brutal and crooked, facebook was no exception.
err, entrepeneurial.
The battle field may be expanding to Michigan, again.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/
The problem with Romney is he flips flop on every issue. So what is his real plan?? One minute he says he will give 5 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy, now he says no he won't. He said he did not care about 47% and now he cares about 100%, he said he would do away with plan parenthood, now he won't, he said he is pro life and would reverse roe vs wade, now he won't, he said he would crack down on China, but how can he when he owns 51% of Bain, while Bain sold a company from Freeport, IL to China and outsourcing those jobs, even though the company made record profits, it was all about greed, do you really think he cares about jobs in this country, while allowing Bain to continue to outsource American jobs and our technology to China, personally I think Bain is a trader to this country and all they care about is how much money they make, who cares what happens to those families, obvious not Bain/Romney. What about the last debate when a woman asked Romney about what he thinks about equal pay for women, he just spinned it about women in binders, never answered the questions, why, because he doesn't think women deserve equal pay. Look how he talks about Iran, Libya, Iraq, do you think he is really ready to lead this country, he shoots his mouth off before getting the facts, I truly believe this guy will get us into another war(big business for Cheney & friends), and who do you think is going to have to pay for that, not the rich. Voters need to really look at this guy and see who he really is, he is just saying what he thinks people want to hear, but if he wins, watch he will flip flop again.
Gore did not lose the election in FL, he lost it in his home state of Tennessee. Had he won his home state, FL would have been a moot point. Has anyone ever been elected president but lost their home state? I don't think so.
Interesting, because Romney is expected to lose in all of his home states, except Utah.
Or the Caymans, that's were his money lives.
Obama 2012
HNL, the FACT remains that Bush stole the election in Florida with the help of his brother and the Secretary of State, who by coincidence was the GOP campaign manager, by fradulent counts, stopping people, with the police, from getting to the polling places.
And then, when no other recourse left, his right wing Sumpreme Court APPOINTED him to the White House. Two wars and a million dead in Irak after, he left a country at the edge of the abyss. He should be behind bars, with Cheney, for war crimes.
Romney is 20 points behind in Mass. where he was Governor. Why? Because those people know Romney best!!!
Romney on creating jobs? 47th in the country when he was governor. I don't doubt that Romney would create jobs but just not in this country.
The same document said that there was little Mitt Romney could do about jobs because the problems resided outside of his state.
Regardless of outside interference, job numbers were increasing as his term as Govornor ended.
Bepatient: When Obama took office jobs were bleeding at a rate of 800,000 a month that he had to overcome before he began to grow the number of jobs. You are so forgiving of Romney's record yet blind to Obama's. You either accept both are responsible despite conditions or neither is. Which person had to deal with the worst starting position, Romney with a mild downturn or Obama with the worst recession sice 1929?
Let's not forget Romney could lose in Wisconsin too. Has any president and vice president team ever lost in both their states and go on to win the Whitehouse?
Rasputin,
Even scarier is the fact that Tagg Romney owns a majority share in an electronic voting machine company, HART Intercivic. These machines leave no paper trail and cannot be monitored since the design is "proprietary" to the company. Also, in 2004 these machines were recorded switching Kerry votes to Bush in Ohio. Enough to produce a 5 point swing. The 5 point swing happened at midnite, and I'm doubtful anyone was voting at that time.....
Tagg Romney's promised to take "a more active role" in his father's campaign. Guess that means helping him cheat to win.
http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/Tagg-Romney-Invested-in-Oh-in-Best_Web_OpEds-121020-557.html
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13221476-romney-family-buys-voting-machines-through-bain-capital-investment
Google it to find more.
Are the deaths of Mexicans and border patrol agents due to the illegal gun sales by the Obama administrations considered foreign policy?
Mer..., the guns were already sold to the Drug Cartels before Obama and Holder were in office.
WRONG
I would like to hear someone say they were going to secure the border, but it won't be Obama. question raised today..why has Obama only campaigned for himself and NONE of the Democrat Senators or Reps? Not even when he is in their states? Hint of being a narcisisst?
Bubba...not we are not all in this together. After the last election when the republicans offerd job/budget solutions at the first meeting he simply said "I won". He would not work with any of them and did not know what they had to offer.
The only time the Republicans care about federal workers or Mexicans is if they are dead. The ones that are living they could care less about. As an example, Mitt Romney on the day his 47% comment came out said his first step in cutting the budget would be to get 500 billion out of federal employee pay and benefits. He won't go after more taxes for high income earners of which federal employees are not but instead go after middle class federal employees as he made a pledge himself to unelected ruler of the unites states Grover Norquist. Also 100% of the Repuglicans in the House voted twice in one month to cut federal pay and benefits to first finance student loans and secondly to avoid the sequester process that they previously agreed to. In summary the only federal employees (border guards) or Mexicans the Repuglicans care about are the dead ones that they can use for political purposes. Retired Federal Nuclear GS-840-12 Engineer.
Nope, Fratboy, he's right. You don't get to just make facts up on your say-so like Romney does.
You have to cautious about anything related to voting in Florida. No one State is as rampant with Voter Fraud and Voter Suppression as that state. Florida is the No. 2 state when it comes to "Hate Groups", Bank Failures, and No. 1 in Mortgage Fraud and Medicare Fraud. I don't know if Money Laundering is ranked but it must be at the top of list for that too.
Milo9 - This is mostly a Great State... But, yeah we get that from the ton of Northerner's moving down to escape the broken families, high taxes and crappy winters up North. Many are scam artists who have moved South to prey on the old people. Most of the criminals moved here from Michigan /Massachusetts to Tennessee. (I-75/I-95 corridor) When their arrested, we should send them back up North to serve their sentences. Shame on the bottom of the barrel club... ~(:>)
Romney/Ryan 2012
Mag..., parts of Florida are good, lived in a few counties that were more or less respectable. For the most part I think of Florida as the meeting place for the worst of the North (carpetbaggers) and the worst of the South (racists and drug runners). Too bad these are ones who get elected. Same thing happened in California so wherever there is a paradise there will be those who will try to ruin it for a profit.
Their governor Rick Scott is a convicted felon due to hundreds of millions in Medicare fraud. Who elects a person like that? Regardless of party affiliation? The guy's a total criminal and it wouldn't be shocking at all if he works to help steal the vote with bogus machines and "hanging chads".
Not like it hasn't happened in Florida before.....
If the people won't elect you then buy the election. If you can't buy it, steal it.
Magnivox, don't know about broken families but you are right. Many do go down there to avoid "crappy winters" up here. They then come back up north to be with their broken families and to avoid the hot humid crappy summers down there. Here is an interesting point though, many who own homes here also owns homes down there. They must have worked hard in the No Right To Work States to be able to own two homes, huh?
Florida should be careful of what they wish for. They are a tourist and gov't spending dependent economy. When a Romney/Ryan budget tanks the economy again then those tourist dollars will dry up. I know I won`t go down there again. And I`ll start writing my congressmen and senators to say that the medicare voucher system they would immediately put in place should apply to everyone....even those already on medicare. Let the ones voting for such a program get to reap the benefits of such a program. And if they can`t afford the insurance to get the health care to keep themselves alive.....well, you reap what you sow.
Rick Scott has already reduced the State's budget for Medicade, wait until Ryan/Romney get finished decimating health care, seniors here dependent on Medicade for Nursing Homes and Rehab. centers, with proposed further cuts I shudder at what will happen to the very most vulnerable in our society.
Obama 2012
Kelcy -
So, you would prefer that the economy stays tanked by Obama? I don't know about you, but when Bush was in office everybody in the family who wanted a job, had one. Now, none of us do - and all because of less military spending - we worked in a shipyard, the largest private employer in the state. It is slated to be closed next year due to lack of work (and political reasons).
Tammy I worked in a shipyard that Bush senior had put on the closure list costing 10,000 workers their jobs as he was a Repuglican and Repuglicans hated California. It was good to see Obama deny Texas a space shuttle and good to see California get it.
Tammy, why don't all you in your household get off your lazy a$$ and get a job? I own a rooming house and all 6 of my tenants have jobs. It isn't that hard to find something, even a dish washing job.
Turn about is fair play.
Obama/Biden 2012
red -
Actually, we have. We are starting our own business building custom trailers. You see, some of us are willing to stand on our own two feet, unlike people like you who depend on government to take care of you.
By the way, none of us have claimed unemployment in this situation, so I am practicing what I'm preaching.
So keep your snide comments to yourself.
You can even look it up on facebook and on the Louisiana Secretary of State website - provided you aren't too lazy to do it.
Tony's Custom Trailers & Repair, LLC
Because, you are typical of most liberals, you are actually too lazy to check out facts.
Can you say the same?
Maybe you should have changed your business plan to build affordable storage bins for those who lost jobs and homes because of Mitt's outsourcing model. Who needs custom trailers? Oh, custom trailers to move factory equipment to a shipping port...got ya.
The Romney campaign is keeping their distance from Florida governor Rick Scott. There's a big big reason for that. They know Scott is doing every possible cheat scenario in the book to throw FL towards Romney. Romney doesn't want to be associated with that although he and his campaign know full well what is going on. THe Obama admin, FBI, Justice Dept and all those hundreds of campaign staffers have to be involved in seeing that Scott doesn't prevail. It's a sad day when a candidate for President allows voter cheating and disenfranchisement in America. Of course, it didn't bother George Bush.
Rick Scott, CEO of Columbia Hospital Group, skated felony charges when his Corporation fined big bucks for Medicare Fraud, go figure and he gets elected Governor by the same people dependent on Medicare, can't figure that one out.
Obama 2012
Well over $1 billion too! The Obama administration is cracking down on medicare fraud.
No doubt about it, those electoral votes are huge and the state is a virtual dead heat politically. I hope Floridians will vote Obama/Biden, or at least NOT vote for Stench/Munster. Florida can pretty much push the re-elect button.
At least the last repub to run for POTUS (John McCain) had a very strong and good Charater, When a woman at one of his campaign stops called the POTUS a Muslim and and Arab, McCain stood up to her and told her that it was not true. That he knows Mr. Obama and that he is a Christian and a good man. He was not willing to let hate be his campaign. He put his country above his personal gain. What is Romeny's Character? He says at a campaign stop "Well no one asks for my birth certificate." Romney has proven that he is willing to spread hate, fear, and lies. He has proven he is willing to divide the entire country by any means neccessary to win the election. Does 47% come to mind? How about voter surppression? How about the Plutocrates sending letters to their employees threatening that they will lose their jobs if they don't vote for Romney? Do you want your boss to tell you how you must use one of your most "sacred rights?" Do you think the Romney campain is not responsible for this? Romney's Character? Have as much money, power, and control as I can no matter the cost to the country or any part of humanity. Sociopath!
The only reason Gore lost is because even his HOME STATE didn't vote for him. Otherwise, we could have had that fat, sweaty, screaming loon running our country.
Devine intervention that he lost.
Just like 2012. Obama will lose nationally by at least 7 points.
Our national nightmare comes to an end. The Obama's will move to the multi million dollar Hawaiian mansion yet another of their crook-crony friends bought for them.
Can't happen soon enough.
And you are one of those scared sheep who buys everything your masters spew about Obama, the nation, Lybia, socialism, communism, etc.
Your ignorance, and that of many others, will probably elect Mitt to the White House, that's how much faith I have about you lunatics knowing anything about this election. Your small brains cannot absorbe reality, so you live off your paranoias and fears.
When you see the above, you know it is from the bottom end of the right wing crazies.
obama lies...that $40,000,000.00 estate in Hawaii will never see Lyin Joe Biden if they lose. Joe will be dumped in the gutter by the O people. YES, Obama has certainly lied about Libya and there is more to come. Too bad it was not out before the early voting. Wonder if the lies told by O and Candy at the last debate in front of 67,000,000 people will be corrected by Obama at the beginning of the debate. Only fair if he is not really a liar.
CoCo -
The foreign policy debate is a lose-lose situation for Obama. If he continues the lie about Libya he loses because he is caught in the lie. If he admits that it was a terrorist act, he loses because he is incompetent.
Tammy -tell us about the Carlye group that the Repubs belong too--war for profit--how many young people have died or become disabled becaue your group wants to make money? Romney with his idoicy has already set the tone for more wars for profit--I just wish him and his lazy kids would sign up for active military service--hmm the dip wit might think a second time about sending poor innocent people to war--but then again he considers all military people part of the 47% who are worthless to him--wow, and you guys want to vote for a souless person?
CoCo, have you reviewed the Rose Garden press conference yet? Didn't think so. Also Candy did throw Romney a bone in her remark but I guess you saw too much red to hear it. Go back and review that too.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch. You Republicans are good at that.
only -
Deflect, deflect, deflect!
What does the 'Carlye' group have to do with the debate?
Oh, and check out who gives to democrats too, while you are at it. You will find that a good number of democrats are 'warmongers' as well. After all, they voted for Iraq and Afghanistan also - and based on the same evidence that Bush had. So stop lying to yourself.
By the way, have you served in the military and do you realize that it is now an entirely voluntary service?
The issue is foreign policy, something that Obama has failed at as evidenced by the murder of Ambassador Stevens and called a 'bump in the road' by Obama.
In spite of being a raving liberal, I have the feeling that the uninformed, scared, and ignorant American populace, will vote empty suit Romney to the White House.
We are a nation of sheep, and the re-election of Bush is one example, he put the fear of God into people with his lies about him keeping us safe from terrorists, except on 9/11, of course.
Why not, these same people voted the current empty suit into office.
Rasputin, you are correct. And let's not forget that after multiple warnings from the Clinton administration and Condi Rice, Bush ignored the warnings. Don't you find it odd that of the 19 hi-jackers, they had photos of 18 of them in a matter of hours, not days? Someone knew something was going to happen and by whom.
A Florida West Coast Voter voting for Romney/Ryan 2012...
Because 4 more years is unthinkable to have endure all over again... Save our Country and our Children's future, vote the spender in Chief out folk's!!!
~(:>)
Back to 2008? Is that the future you want for your children?
Jim - No, Romney is not Bush you fool... A future without the biggest spender in American History, the Biggest Divider in our Country in recent history. The Socialist average community organizer, part time Senator turned President by fools... Our forefathers left Europe to escape Liberal Elitist's I know better than the majority of citizens attitude like our current President, and I fully appreciate their sacrifices which made this country Great. Romney will reach across the aisle to pass Bi-Partisan legislation like he has already done, Obama not so much... There's your answer Jim!!!
~(:>)
A Florida voter for Romney/Ryan 2012
No, Romney is Bush on steroids. And I see you bought the reach across the aisle lie. Romney vetoed 800 bills and 750 of them were overridden by a 2/3 vote. As Ann Romney said on the View, Mitt ran for governor as a moderate and pro choice because he had to. But after he was elected, he went back to being severely conservative and pro life. Romney is a businessman and a good businessman will tell people what they want to hear to close the deal. The question is – are you stupid enough to believe him.
No Jim, The Question should be am I Stupid enough to vote for 4 more years of the same to a failed Divider in Chief and the answer is a resounding NO!!! Obama is pretty much for everything I stand against so I will never support him Period...
Romney/Ryan 2012 and more than half Floridians and the Country support him... So watch who you call stupid could be your brother or dad... ~(:>)
Our forefathers were forced out of England due to religious persecution, not because of liberal elitist. Remember they were called Pilgrims.
Also, the reason most of the debt we carry now is because of 2 wars that were left unfunded by the previous administration.
If basic economics serve me right, you can not decrease government spending if you do not take in revenue. Since the wealthy are not paying their fair share for the American economy, the revenue is not there. Romney has not shown how he will reduce the deficit by not taking in revenue.
Romney is in it for the wealthy. That is shown in what he and his BAIN friends are doing to Sensata right now.
doesn't surprise me one bit... after all we're talking about the same state that supports stalking and shooting unarmed black kids
Odd that Bush, who all dems swear was just shy of being retarded, was able to do so much, while the great Messiah can't find his a$$ with both hands. Funny that.
but when we as floridians who are sick and tiered of being looked at at after an election like some kind of backwoods state, when we try to take question out of the legitemcy of the election, Are sued by the DNC because it would mean that people with out IDs would be disenfranchised. Lets see, last time I had to renew my Drivers license in Florida I had to have an actual long form birth certificate certified by the state county I was born in. I obtained this form in less than 48 hrs, I also had to provide my SS Card as well. So I would say that would pretty much verify who I was. These are the same documents I had to provide to join the Military. By the way the Military took my fingerprints, and they are tied into any Military Id to verify identity. I would love to see this level of integrity being applied to all states before a person is allowed to cast a vote. This would insure a elections integrity. But I guess that some would not like that. Maybe it was more because that would ruin the DNC voting program in WPB, Dade, Duval, and Hillsborough counties? It doesnt matter RNC or DNC it would mean no more election BS the vote would be what the vote came out.
miami -
The Pilgrims may have come to America for religious freedon, but the US declared independence because of financial hardship due to taxes and lack of representation in Parliament.
You seem to be fuzzy on your history.
You're kidding right? Bush did so much? Like start 2 unfunded wars, doubled our debt and a drug plan costing several hundred billion a year also unfunded. Few share your idea of greatness.
miamiriver, I hate to jump on you too, but the wars WERE funded. With Chinese loans. But now we have to get "tough" with them...LOL
Obama/Biden because we can't afford anymore wars paid for with borrowed money.
Voice of Logic, I will agree that everyone should have IDs to vote. That is not the problem. The problem is changing the law and having it applied so close to the election. Why didn't they pass these new laws 4 years ago? The issue is they have to give time for the populace to comply. In several of these states the government even admits to the court that they couldn't process all the ids in time. Let's not forget what the Sec of State in Pennsylvania said. "Voter ID law, check. This will give the State of Pennsylvania to Romney". That doesn't look like it will happen.
Now Larry, I wouldn't expect you to know how to read, why don't you go back and find greatness in the original post. Did you find it? Hmmm, must be like Barry, his a$$, and two hands. GFYS
You should of thought of that when you gave four more years to George Bush Jr. where were your concerns about your children then.
www.usatoday.com/story/ondeadline/2012/09/28/florida-voter-registration-fraud-republican/1601809/
Tells you everything you need to know about how the election will turn out in Florida. Just another repeat of 2000 and 2004, when the GOP stole the state.
Voters shot themselves in the foot in 2000, 2004 and 2010. Will they do it again. I guess eventually, they will run out of bullets or run out of feet.
"In contrast, Obama could win the presidency without Florida as long as he could hold on to Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire, all of which he won in 2004." That is an incorrect published statement since Obama did not run for the presidency til 2008. Go Romney/Ryan 2012.
Ohio is the decisive battleground for Romney. Unfortunately, there are many tactical disadvantages for Romney:
1. Romney has been against clean energy. At least one hundred thousand clean energy jobs are in Ohio.
2. Ohio has a low unemployment rate - 7%.
3. Obama currently leads in the Ohio poll.
10/09/green-energy-ohio-tour-2012-horticulture-business-relies-on-solar-wind-energy-for-year-round-food-production/
Revised
Ohio is the decisive battleground for Romney. Unfortunately, there are many tactical disadvantages for Romney:
1. Romney has been against clean energy. At least one hundred thousand clean energy jobs are in Ohio.
2. Ohio has a low unemployment rate - 7%.
3. Obama currently leads in the Ohio poll.
4. Romney has been against auto bailout in Ohio. The fact is Obama's auto bailout has been successful in Ohio
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Nice to hear that Ohio made out in bail out, Wis Auto workers got screwed only to see their production go to Mexico and China. Oh Well Go buy a nice South Korean made Chevy Spark.
What really looms large is the deceit, lies if you will, of the Dems to play off the backs of Americans during worldy crisis, see the four murdered in Iraq. These Iranian talks have been propoed, as long as the terrorists took to planning the Benghazi murderous mission. So the O team pulled this outta their butts now and they think we are tricked? What a bunch of duds.
Yeah the Bush team cost us over 2000 American lives right here on our own soil during their watch, and they had all kinds of advanced warnings. But 4 Americans die on the other side of the world and Obama is completely at fault.
Yeah that's GOP logic at its finest!!!!
If I understood this poorly written post.....you got it all backwards!
No, GOP logic at it's finest is to reduce your income and increase your expenses as a way to get out of debt.
I hope you protested as vociferously when Ronald Raygun got a couple of hundred servicemen killed in the Beirut bombing of the Marine Barracks or even when Raygun shot down the Iranian Commercial airliner killing women and children.
Michael, I believe that was more than 3000 dead on 9/11 with hundreds more after.
Jim, lets not forget the logic of outsourcing 100,000's of thousand jobs and closing 10,000s of thousands of factories too. Or moving phone centers to India for both debt collections and government services. I believe it was in Minnesota they outsourced phone banks to take calls for social services instead of training and hiring those people off the rolls.
It could never be like the lies told to get us into Irag and the thousands of life's lost there.
maggie -
Then explain why Obama has twice the casualties Bush had in half the time.
Clinton dropped the ball on 911, if he payed as much attention to the top of his desk instead of what was going on under it 911 may have been averted. Just ask Sandy Berger.
I'm in another swing state - VA -- brother lives in FL -- he is a school teacher there -- not 100% sure how he will vote - I have not asked him, but I recently retired from the military and I beleive I sit in the 5-10% of earners these days.
I do not see how Romney - tax cuts and other economic plans will help most people and can see it hurting and making the deficiet even worse. His "warhawk" talk scares me after the last 10 years. Not one whiff of get out of these wars and lowering defense spending some after the 137% (more than double and boy was a lot wasted) increase in spending for the wars since 2003... reduce spending that could be refocuse to deficiet or infrastructure here in the US.
I will be a first time voter for Obama this time around
Folks really need to look at 30 years of tax cutting, wars and other spending, special interest corporation tax breaks, etc etc to see trickle down does not work
not so keen on either choice, but can see the mostly likely choice for the least harm. congress and extreme no compromise is the real problem.
we need a balance - a balance in increase revenue and spending cuts in nearly all areas to get things back in order -- all will have to give a bit....
personally, I will be fine no matter who wins, but I think the country and most people will be worst off with Romney. We cratered into a very deep hole when things crashed in 2008 and lots of things led up to the crash
It will be a slow climb out, but things are improving
You sir have the most intelligent post on the blog today.
what is the date on your DD 214?
Bears repeating. I'm voting for Obama for the same reason. I just hope I get to vote FOR a candidate one day. I'm tired of voting AGAINST them. Obama's not the greatest choice, but Romney/Ryan are pure poison.
Great post. That is exactly how I feel. I voted republican for local candidates, including Cantor in 2004 and regretted that. Republicans, through ALEC and other organizations are manipulating state legislators and state courts for their agenda. I might have voted for Huntsman, but moderate republicans have no home anymore. I also agree on what you said about balance. Republicans can't seem to compromise any longer. Like it or not, that is what has made our political system work.
So it's Florida to the rescue for the GOP again. Only this time they are even telling us up front. You gotta love it!!!!
Mitt Romney is doing quite well in Florida.
There were a lot of people who wanted Mitt Romney rather than John McCain in 2008 so it stands to reason why he's doing so good.
Mitt Romney is not good enough to kiss John McCains feet. Get real. John McCain stands far above Mitt Romney in integrity and I'am a democrat.
Yeah the Bush team cost us over 2000 American lives right here on our own soil during their watch, and they had all kinds of advanced warnings. But 4 Americans die on the other side of the world and Obama is completely at fault.
Yeah that's GOP logic at its finest!!!!
Clinton did nothing when the Twin Towers were attacked the first time.
Janet Reno and Bill Clinton are more responsible for 9/11 than Bush is.
Of course we also know it was Bill and Janet that did Wacko Texas.
it is obama's fault because being at a party in vegas was more important than give the guards live bullets, POS
bepatient...remember Clinton had 2 (TWO) chances to get Bin Ladin and he chickened out. Had Clinton manned up and killed Bin Ladin there would have NOT HAVE BEEN A 9/11. So many have conveniently forgot that piece of information. Now Bubba is campaigning for O thinking his wife is going to be the Democrat nominee in 2016...sorry fella...her lies about Libya just shut that down.
Live bullets? I lost a cousin in Beirut during a Reagan term due to no live rounds in the guns. We lost over 200 servicemen/women. Could this have been prevented? They saw the truck coming.
So was this Reagan's fault?
Bepatient: Nice try. Flight schools informed the FBI that men of middle eastern descent were paying to train to fly commercial airliners but weren't concerned with how to land. They were never investigated and went on to infamy on 9-11. You'd never let Obama slide on such a failure.
Be Patient
The people responsible for bombing the WTC during Clinton's watch were in custody within 2 weeks.
Sorry I forgot you are GOP, you are entitled to your own bull#### facts.
Clinton should have paid Attention to the Top of his desk not under it. I forget, how many killed on USS Cole and by Whom? Or should I ask Sandy Berger?
They will try to steal the elections, there is no question on that, but these Repo-Nazis are going down.
Joe.....You will end up being another sore loser with all the other libtards
trilliondollar - is the term "Libtards" an attempt to equate liberals as retards? Last time I checked, most PHDs and people like myself who have advanced graduate degrees, all tend to lean liberal. While down home in the backwoods of the deep conservative south, the GED crowd tends to lean Republican. But in all fairness, I must disclose that I too was a staunch conservative before I graduated from High School. Earning 3 degrees destroyed my dogmatic opinions and left me leaning toward the left. When my party nominated a true retard in 2000, I gave up all connections to the GOP and became an independant. I did not think the republicans could get any more retarded, but once again, they chose an idiot over a true patriot like they did in 2000
Ron Paul 2012.
Laure.......I see I got your attention....Good!!!!!!....Mission accomplished. When your comrades stop with the name calling then so will I, otherwise I will not capitulate to you or your kind....Let me clarify something for you...I agree that most people with advanced degrees in humanities and non-techincal degrees are libtards. Your generalizations and "holier than thou" attitude has exposed you for what you truly are...Just plain stupid. There are many people that are book smart without any common sense. Giving answers on your professors exam to get a "A" doesn't mean you have to believe the crap they fed you. You should have been able to sort out the BS and think for yourself.
I don't think trillion dollar has any kind of degree at all. I am a liberal and am a technical graduate with a B.S. (not and advanced degree) in Metallurgical Engineering Nuclear Engineering option. When I went to college I had a Dr. Kaare Nygaard come up to me in the hallway and hug me telling me how proud he was of me as the class average on the physics test was a 27 and I got a 93 as well as being only one of 3 students out of 400 to get one of the problems correct. When I went back to school years later I had a future Doctor put a bunch of students to pushing their desks in towards mine as if they were going to copy off of me after the second test was passed out because after one biochemistry test I had a 40 point lead over everyone including the doctor. Obama/Biden in 2012. Give them hell Barry.
Trilliondollar: Intelligence is questioning when a presidential candidate tells you he'll pay for a 5 trillion dollar tax cut and 2 trillion dollar military build up by cutting deductions only on those making over 250K when eliminating all deductions solely on those people would only account for 1.7 trillion. As he say's he'll allow them to deduct 20K to 25K each that brings it back to around 1 trillion. Where will he get the other 6 trillion? Common sense is to question the illogical. A party that claims they ignore fact checkers and simply say trust me can't be trusted. I guess if you accept trust me as an answer you don't need a degree.
If they gave a degree in common sense very few people be graduating, including you. If you can't see that Obama is anti-American and wants to bring American down, then you have no common sense. A lot of book smart people don't have sense enough to get out of the rain.
Larry-36707
Tax cuts by Bush and Reagan raised tax revenues and under Bush the largest in history. If people go back to work more taxes will be collected.
Dee Stringer, you are an idiot. Some good advice, keep your mouth shut, you'll look better.
Can't stand the truth can you? Elatt, you are the idiot, look up the facts. Romney will put most of those 47% to work and off the government take.
Larry-36707
Tax cuts by Bush and Reagan raised tax revenues and under Bush the largest in history. If people go back to work more taxes will be collected.
We know trickle down theory, we also know it never worked. Reagan tripled our debt and Bush doubled it. If trickle down worked our debt wouldn't explode.
Dee, care to tell us where these mythical jobs are in numbers great enough to make an immediate difference?
In China you say? Ok
Keep dreamin' Dee. Romney's type doesn't even have most of their money in this country. He is more concerned with the Global economy, of which the US is only a part. He will compromise America's power in the interest of he and his peers investments. He has more in common with wealthy foreign bankers than he does with the average American.
Probably why Romney accepted all the foreign campaign donations. It's illegal, of course, but his supporters don't seem to care.