I would never vote for Obama as he is a traitor to the American people. He will say anything to get a vote. He took an oath to follow the laws of the USA and can not follow them, he just over rides them to suit himself. He has put the country in debt that we may never get out of. He has told other countries that he is sorry for American beliefs. What kind of American is that? He is a socialist. do not destroy America, no more Obama. Vote for an American not a socialist.

In other words because he's black. This can be the only conclusion since not one single thing you stated is true.... ironically, just like Mitt Romney tonight.

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

Why does it always come down to race with you people? It's insulting that you think educated voters can't just disagree with a politician's policies without being called a racist! DesertGranny was right about Obama breaking laws, putting the country in debt, apologizing for America, and having a socialist agenda. The only thing you can take umbrage to is her closing with 'vote for an American'. Disprove any of the above, and then we'll work on what you think Romney lied about.

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

I just checked CNN, they had a fact checker say Obama was correct, he called it an act of terror and they had the video to prove it. Candy was wrong only in insomuch as she shouldn't have called Romney out on it, that was Obama and the fact checkers job, which they both did. My guess would be she doesn't care for liars.

Transcript:

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Reading comprehension 101

And how about the GOP cutting Obama's funding requests for diplomatic security. For 2013 they proposed cutting it 216 million, they tried to cut it by 331 million in 2012, but democrats got 88 million back in negotiations, and again, republicans cut it in 2011 by 128 million. Paul Ryans budget calls for it to be slashed again in 2014 by 20%.

Google "Secretary Clinton: House Republican budget cuts will endanger national security"

Switching my vote ... without question ... I am voting Romney!

Romney definitely more in command of the issues and, more importantly, has a more successful record than Obama.

(... not that it influenced my vote but Crowley was a disgrace! ... so obviously tilted in injecting her political nuance (not her job as moderator), allowing the President more time, interrupting more Romney and she should never had been in charge - due to her obvious liberal leanings - in selecting the questions, where some where so obvious rhetorical questions against Romney. After the debate she very much had to admit that Romney was right after all regarding Benghazi, where she made herself part of the debate on the side with the President by saying the record supported the President when after all it did not!)

Your a fool desert granny. And Jose how was Romney in command of the issues? He didn't explain ANY solutions just gave us statistics. At least Obama was confident in his answers and is rational.

Jose V- You are a idiot . You have been posting your Republican lies for a while.

desertgranny

I would never vote for Obama as he is a traitor to the American people. He will say anything to get a vote. He took an oath to follow the laws of the USA and can not follow them, he just over rides them to suit himself. He has put the country in debt that we may never get out of. He has told other countries that he is sorry for American beliefs. What kind of American is that? He is a socialist. do not destroy America, no more Obama. Vote for an American not a socialist.

I'm rather curious, precisely what has President Obama done that is treasonous? Has he sworn an allegiance to another nation? Has he declared war against the US? What laws has he not followed? Regarding the debt, only the congress has the power to spend. Would you have preferred President Obama to veto the various spending bills that crossed his desk? And when, precisely, has President Obama told other countries (although I think you really mean people who live in other countries) that "he is sorry for American beliefs?"

It probably isn't much of a leap to surmise that you supported former President Bush and, therefore, the stimulus bill he signed, the spending bills that created $5 trillion in debt, two unfunded wars, the prescription drug benefit, etc.

As President Obama said, Romney is a nice guy. Romney's entire career is based on selling and making certain he comes out a winner no matter what the cost to others, no matter what he has to say or do to win.

Romney sold a bill of goods to the MA voters - they fell for his manipulated rhetoric and outright lies. Tho he didn't increase taxes, he used "fees" up the gazooks. He also tried to pull a fast one on Women, with the morning after pill, tsk, tsk, and was caught.

MA voters are pulling for Prez Obama by a very wide margin; evidence of Romney's governorship. They don't want him in MA; we don't want him in our White House.

OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 and a Strong Democratic Congress to continue the move FORWARD.

hey, hey, this second FACEOFF clearly still puts Romney in the lead. the moderator for the debate was one of Obama's galpals so we should have seen how the debate would proceed. leading up to the televised event, commentators and other moderators said Obama would come out fighting and attacking Romney any way he could. the result was Obama looked foolish (like he always has) in front of the American people. get wise folks, these past four years Obama has done his best to hurt this country and the American people with revised health care, retirement, military, morals and specifically abortion, our senior citizens, employment and don't forget religion. how much more can we take from this anti-christ? how much more should we take from this betrayer? his track record speaks for itself, he is not for America, never was never will be! and POTUS, not even a cookout in your back yard will make me change my mind about you, and no, not even a beer will. i don't know what really got you elected to be the top man, leader of this country, but we cannot let this happen again. if you need cardboard boxes to help you pack, these i can give at no charge. you need to step down and let us air out the white house with a new President who is for the people.

I would never vote for Obama as he is a traitor to the American people. He will say anything to get a vote. He took an oath to follow the laws of the USA and can not follow them, he just over rides them to suit himself. He has put the country in debt that we may never get out of.

One at a time:

Traitor to the American people? That would be George W. Bush! Getting us into a war based on false premises. Just where are those pesky WMDs?

He will say anything to get a vote? That would Mitt Romney, who never made a comment he couldn't deny and contradict.

He took an oath to follow the laws of the USA and can not follow them, he just over rides them to suit himself? Again, that would be George W. Bush. On more than 750 occasions, far more than all previous presidents combined, President Bush attached a "signing statement" to legislation he signed, declaring that he is not bound by provisions he regards as unconstitutional.

He has put the country in debt that we may never get out of? Once again that would be George W. Bush, aided and abetted by Republican majorities in both houses of Congress for 6 out of 8 years. Despite their new-found fiscal responsibility, Republicans started in 2000 with a $5.7T debt and ran it up to $11.9T in 8 years. That's right, they started with a debt that took 200 years to accumulate and doubled it in only 8 years! Mitt Romney wants to continue that fine tradition.

If all that you said truly bothers you, you should be voting Democratic this fall!

Ray in Jax

Before you slam others for not using spell check why don't you use it yourself. You mis-spelled your own candidates name.

Obam? Classic...

Funny how all you kool aid drinking libs only quote liberal polls and liberal t.v. stations for your facts. Well here's a fact for you! You are idiots if you think for one minute that you are going to see it any better from Obama than what he has already given you. You will see higher food prices, you will see higher wholesale prices and you will see higher retail prices. So i ask all you kool aid drinking libs to tell me when i get to see that tax break he said i got and when he is really going to care about the working class. Because i have not seen one bit of this relief he keeps saying he has given the American people, but i sure see him giving Soldier killing PAKISTAN the aid they want and giving American killing Libya the aid they want, so where the hell is the aid for the Americans who are still without jobs and still losing there homes and still paying higher and higher and higher prices, even after Obama said we wouldn't. If you can answer all that honestly (no hypocrisy allowed) then i will vote for the America killing Obama that you all love.

Taa71: Under Harp 2.0 I am paying the same payments for my mortgage and because of the lower rate and same PMI, I am paying down an extra $500 a month to principle, saving at least $150,000 and will pay off my house in half the time. Now follow through and vote for Obama.

Why does Romney REFUSE to give a single detail of which deductions he will eliminate to pay for his tax plan. JUST ONE!

I can't vote for the "Just Trust Me" candidate. If his plan is so good, he should give us details.

taa,

If I had your insight for predicting the future I would buy a lottery ticket.

To get that insight you must peruse everything. Much like sarah palin! Check out those tomes and learn to emulate their syntax and god knows how far you can go in the party.

Sal and Granny,

Rather than just spew nonsense give us some examples! Please, enlighten us! Show us where President Obama has "broken" laws! Show us some of his Socialist programs! Please show us!

Yup Indeed. He kicked and slaughtered.

If debates were decided on who lies the most, Mittens the clear winner. its pretty bad when the moderator calls you out as a liar.

The President is back and stronger than ever.....Romney still did not say anything about how he was going to do anything and he even got caught in a lie by Candy (the moderator) lol. The President gave it to Romney good right at the end when he brought up about what he said behind close doors at the dinner about the 47% of the people that he does not care about. Yahoooooooooooooooo President Obama good going. I want to know how do they expect President Obama to fix the United States and its economy in 4yrs when it took baby Bush 8yrs to get us into all of this mess and yes it was baby Bush who did it to us because when Bush took office we were working in the black from President Clinton.

Really, you call the POTUS a liar and then the moderator says oh, your are so wrong!

Barry is an arrogant child.......... can't stand not getting his way.... bet he throws a tantrum on Nov 6th

i thought romney came off the other way

Obama rocks. He spoke volumes to Romney's avoidance of facts. I know less about what Romney stands for after listening to him in the last debates than I ever did. Obama at least tells us his plan.

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

stop lying!!!

Transcript:

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Reading comprehension 101

I voted for McCain in 2008, regretted it ever since. My wife and i are voting for Obama in 2012.

Loved the moment Crowley called Romney on his Lie. It was hilarious to watch the President tell Romney to proceed to dig his own grave in this election.

OMG = Obama Must Go!

CPAUL, there have been 3 trolls at last count that have posted the same LIE WORD FOR WORD. Carl Rove 101, same as Goebbels. Male of Female, these Trolls WISH they were in Mittens "Binders of Women" L.O.L.

I liked MSNBC showing the actual video from the Rose Garden, confirming President Obama called the Benghazi incident, a terrorist attack. Good to see Willard squirm.

Sal_C2006

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

Precisely where on the CNN site does Ms. Crowley say this? I just checked and I see no mention of this. CNN, however, does conclude that former Governor Romney was misleading/inaccurate/deceptive about his claim.

From CNN:

The conclusion: Romney's comment was false. Obama did describe the killings in Benghazi as an act of terror twice within two days, though -- in an interview two weeks after the attack -- he appeared to reserve judgment. Two days later, his spokesman clarified his position.

Full article here:

Under obama a greater divide in
AMERICA under obama a new tax that will hurt middle class citizens the most
(obama care) under obam a total lack of transparency. ...Under obama the division
of races has tripled. obama 1st president to win because of his race obama...
causes 1st presidential candidate to lose because of his race(mccain) possibly
second candidate to lose because of his race

You can't say Obama has tripled or radicalize race relation. please explain your criteria.

What President Obama has done - is ignore racist attacks. The more Neo-Conservatives, Neo-Nazi... push The President to define his campaign and his Presidency - in the light of race, the more he ignores the stupidity. He does not deend his race - because it is not relevant to his position as President of the "United States".

As Mr. Obama, a father and husband, there is no doubt that there are moments when he would enjoy popping a few of you idiots upside the head with Loiusville slugger... but as president that is not an avenue he is allowed to take.

So keep taking you cheap shots .. What you need to understand, is the President is too busy Fixing this country for the Future (yes - even your future). He is Man enough to ignore your crap - when there is a Bigger job to get done. When he finishes setting the direction of the recovery, mapping path we need to tack to get out muck and mire the previous administration allowed us to fall into. He can walk away knowhe did his job the best he could.

You - on the other hand, - can satisfy yourself by telling your grand kids and great grand Kids - the PawPaw called the President the United States a N&%%#r ... they will be so proud.

It makes me laugh when I hear that Obama cares about women. 780,000 more women are unemployed today then when Obama took office. If you count putting them on welfare and food stamps instead stimulating jobs then I guess he cares. One of 6 Americans are now living in poverty (46.2% of Americans) Women have been hit the hardest so SAYING he cares means nothing.

If you would rather have you and your children live in poverty for free birth control, a promise of equal pay, and whatever else he is dishing out then vote for Obama!

Under obama 6 trillion more

More and more lies! Bush's last budget left the country with $11.9T in debt. It is now $16T. That's only $4T under Obama's watch. George W. Bush, however, aided and abetted by Republican majorities in Congress for the majority of his two terms, doubled our national debt in only 8 years!! AND they trashed the American economy in the process!

No matter what they say now, history proves we cannot afford another Republican president!

Eengineer: Very truthfully stated with facts and without drama and hate. Thank you!

More and more lies! Bush's last budget left the country with $11.9T in debt. It is now $16T. That's only $4T under Obama's watch. George W. Bush, however, aided and abetted by Republican majorities in Congress for the majority of his two terms, doubled our national debt in only 8 years!! AND they trashed the American economy in the process...

And that's only the money we know about - It is possible that much more will be found and attributed to the previous administration as the audit, started days after President Obama came into office - this audit, freely admitted by the Pentagon is the first request for a true comprehensive audit since the days of Regan.

When he came into office - already alarmed by the lack of accountability during the transition, President Obama charged all departments to submit a true accounting. Much of the debt - attributed to the Obama administration is the result of expenditures which were not accounted for during the administration which spent the money.

Its like buying a house.You get a loan, purchase the house - only to find out there are unlisted, unpublished Liens on the property. Obama asked for a title search and found out the true cost of the house. hose bills were never disclosed in the mortgage. Since we can't default on America, we now are getting an idea of how much is owed on "the full faith and credit, which is America".

Bottom line: some of the debt was exposed under the Obama administration ... but it predates his "watch". this is the first many of us are hearing about that hidden debt... but it definitely was not incurred in the one (1) or two months, after Obama took office, when it was first reported to the public scrutiny

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

Really, I believe she said that Obama was right. I believe that you should first read the transcript from last night's debate and then the transcript and watch the video or the Rose Garden speech. I took the opportunity of attaching the links, in the respective order, for your convenience.

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/full-transcript-of-2nd-presidential-debate

http://www.forextv.com/forex-news-story/full-transcript-of-obama-s-rose-garden-speech-after-sept-11-benghazi-attack

You're joking, right?

all the small things made obama the winner i mean just look at the poll on this page

Sandy, both Obama and the Moderator spanked Willard tonight. You just can't lie and make stuff up.

The polls on this page? Please. Anyone undecided by this time has either been in a coma or else is lying through their teeth. You love Obama you gonna vote for him, regardless of how bad he is. Them's the facts.

Obama spanked him tonight. I am starting to think the first debate was a rope a dope ruse.

I think you may have something there. He came out on top all around.

Not true, there are still some undecideds out there. There could even be those who were leaning toward Obama who find Mitt has overcome his creep factor during these debates. He is becoming more personable with each outing.

The only thing Mitt is personable with is his money he hides off shore. That is not an american. He is smug, arrogant, and has no respect for anything or anyone.

Obama spanked him tonight.

Are you kidding me? Mitt took it to him in every single category. You must not have watched the same debate I watched. By the way, this NBC web site, is mostly Democrat, so don’t let that poll fool you..

Mitt connected with voters and Obama was on the offensive all night. It was Mitt all the way!!

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

Romney reminds me of the bully who can't take a punch. Obama gave him a stiff right jab with the "That is offensive," reply to Romney, who never recovered and wobbled for the rest of the debate.

Oh and Sandy, you might want to watch the debate or read the transcript. Crowley call Romney out on the Libya gaff, not vice-verse.

Sheila-846240 "He is becoming more personable with each outing". He'd be more personable if Ryan "Outed" himself and Mitt said he still loved him! L.O.L.

Obama's record of failure stinks, and recently, what stinks the most is how he and his sad case of an administration handled the Libyan bombing of our embassy and the killing of an ambassador and three other Americans. Shame on him! He lied about it again tonight in front of 70 million Americans!! Incredible!

So you are holding the President responsible, Personally Responsible for the Libya bombing? Do you hold the previous administration Personally responsible for what happened on their watch?

.... what stinks the most is how he and his sad case of an administration handled the Libyan bombing of our embassy and the killing of an ambassador and three other Americans. Shame on him! He lied about it ...

Think carefully of what you are saying, there are some historical issues you are bringing up - issues which this whole country morned over and gave that President a free pass.

RR123,

What about the part when the moderator called Romney out on making stuff up about the Presidents statements in the Rose Garden. Did Romney "..take (sic) him.." in that category too?

What about the part where the moderator on CNN admits Romney was right?

#!

Charley, et al. You all have to learn to trust this President to do the right thing. After that Dec 2010, where Democratics were screaming about the Prez caving in to the repub/tparty - where they were holding hostage unemployment relief, WE came out the winners, tho it took a few days to figure that one.

There were a few more incidences, the most recent with Natanyahu's deceitful ploy in the UN, and his asking for time with the President -- all staged to force the President's hand on Israel. (Adelson? Adelman? was the big money bags behind Netanyahu's campaign for prime minister, just as he is now contributing over 100 million to Romney - get the connection?) Prez Obama won that round too. Makes for good reading, a thriller, and also shows what he's up against. I wonder if that'll come up next debate. An embarrassment for Netan, Adel?, Israel, Romney and the repub/tparty and their money bags.

Our Prez is wise, patient and moral. He is also no one's fool. Your statement, "I am starting to think the first debate was a rope a dope ruse" appears to be in line with the Prez, another high political risk - he trusted us to know better, and we do.

OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 and a Strong Democratic Congress to continue the FORWARD movement.

I didnt watch the debate, nothing said can change me, but I can tell you who "won" by the wine and cheese from the responders.

Score cards please.

Dems say cheese. (2)

Repubs whine. (1)

Same old @!$%#e, different day.

Sal_

I was OUTraged with G. Bush and what he did to our country and I will be OUTraged if Mitt is elected because he will take us back to it. Obama didn't have a chance with getting a lot done since the republicons were adamant about making him a 1 term president. The party of NO were in force so people like you could complain about our president not doing anything!! Anyone paying attention knew this except for the closet racists and far-right extremists. Which one are you???

It's about time Obama called Romney down on the lies he keeps repeating.

Yea, bad when the moderator calls you a liar

Skeeterberry,

The video of the president on the day after the Libya attack most definitely shows him calling it an act of terror. But thanks for once again exposing Republicans as chronic liars.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act.

Candy was honest and called Romney on his friggin' lie. Guess news reel footage is irrefutable and Candy knew the facts and Obama said - Gov. proceed (dig your friggin' hole as deep as you want!) LMAO

jayinflorida,

What the hell do you think he was talking about, 9-11? That was the press statement the next morning. You know, the one called about the attack? I've quoted it before on the vine and the right wingers just denied it ever happened. You guys are just unbelievable!

Skeeterberry, perhaps YOU outta read the manuscript.

According to FACTCHECKER www.politifact.com, Obama remains FOUR (4!) times as truthful as Romney.

- Obama has a truth-score of 408/435 = 94 % and
- Romney has a truth-score of 50/186 = 27 %
Which means that Obama is about FOUR times as truthful as Romney. Politifact puts statements in six categories: on

True 6,30% more Obama
Mostly True 9,88% more Obama
Half True -1,22% more Romney
Mostly False 5,60% more Obama
False 2,49% more Obama
Pants on Fire 6,88% more Obama

If we weigh all statements with True +3 points, Mostly True +2 points, Half True + 1 point, Mostly False -1 point, False -2 points, Pants on Fire -3, the WEIGHTED scoring of their statements shows that:

Out of 435 Obama statements
97 were True for 291 points
101 were Mostly True for 202 points
114 were Half True for 114 points
54 were Mostly False for -54 points
62 were False for -124 points
7 were Pants on Fire for -21 points

total 408 points

Out of 186 Romney statements
30 were True for 90 points
25 were Mostly True for 50 points
52 were Half True for 52 points
32 were Mostly False for -32 points
31 were False for -62 points
16 were Pants on Fire for -48 points

total 50 points

True
6,30%

Mostly True
9,88%

Half True
-1,22%

Mostly False
-5,60%

False
-2,49%

Pants on Fire
-6,88%

to make myself more clear:

Obama had 6.30% more True statements

Obama had 9,88% more Mostly True statements

Romney had -1,22%more Half True statements

Romney had 5,60% more Mostly False statements

Romney had 2,49% more False statements

Romney had 6,88% more Pants on Fire statements

So, Obama is more truthful, AND Romney LIES MORE

Transcript:

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Reading comprehension 101

Sal-C2006: Repeating the same post over & over again doesn't make it more impressive--just more desperate. FYI

He was referring to 9/11/01 when he said that. Learn to comprehend what you're reading! And he was STILL blaming the video 14 days later. Take your heads out of your azzes!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

Obama did not call it a terrorist attack when it happened, It took day's for him to say it. He did not say it until he was called out. Get your facts somewhere else so you can get them straight.

He was referring to 9/11/01 when he said that. Learn to comprehend what you're reading! And he was STILL blaming the video 14 days later. Take your heads out of your azzes!

So hours after, we determined the facts, you are claiming that the President had gathered together the elements of News conference to go over 9/11 - and only mentioedn the 4 who died (the number of dipomats in the Libya attack); not the 3,000 plus who died during the 9/11 attack?

what anniversary of the Twin Towers trechery was being memorilized which took precedent over the newest attack?

President Obama is no cowboy, since he has been in charge - we get a notice about the incedent. then later, after the real culprits are identified - the evidence is presented, naming the villians. Shotting from the lip is not good trait when tensions are high, especially in the small portion of the world.

Obama, unlike Mitt - does not run to the Limelight to get the first word out. Mitt Rmney was roundly chastized when he rush to get his face on TV, thinking that President Oboma Had called a Press conference about the Libya attack - only thing is, Obama had already noted the attack and stated our forces were looking into it and would offer further reports as news evolved.

Mitt Romney had to have his facts corrected by the moderator during the second US presidential election debate.Read more

The Republican candidate accused President Barack Obama of taking two weeks to call the attacks on the US embassy in Libya, in which four Americans died, an act of terror.

Mr Romney said the President had put fundraising first, claiming he had flown to Las Vegas and Colorado for political events. He said: "I think these actions taken by a President and a leader have symbolic significance and, perhaps, even material significance."

Even republican leaders called Mitt out on the big mistake he made. We do not need any more "Cowboys in the White House". GW never went to dover to great the coffins come home.

Your logic is flawed and the timetable is out of sequence. Mitt screwed the pooch - and no amount of filibuster can relive him of his misguided butting into Presidential and diplomatic issues.

No More Cowboys for President.

Candy Crowley Stands By Her Debate Fact Check

Right-Wing Media Falsely Claim Candy Crowley Walked Back Her Fact Check Of Romney

tinyurl.com/8n6jsan

I totally agree. Throw Ryan into that lying mess as well.

There it is, thanks Jen.

Mitt was fact checked hard by the moderator, boom, the 47% at the end boom, women's rights boom, tax policy boom. Romney pleas that he "was someone who ran businesses" for twenty five years...and I am reminded of Scrooge praising Jacob Marley - "You were always a good man of business Jacob!"

The trouble is, Mitt is a terrible politician. Really, really bad. Two faces, no real spine.

No matter how many times you post this baloney doesn't make it true. Quit taking lessons from R&R&fox

Just changed my "Undecided" meaning undecided whether to bother to vote or not, to supporting Romney. Was I watching the same debate as the political pundants were. Yes, Obama came out swinging but I did care for what he was slinging.

What you mean Ryan did not run a marathon in under 3 hours like he said on national TV. Gee.If he lies about little stuff like that God only knows what else he lies about.

Maryanne, I guess like lies, in which case Willard is your man.

Soooooo tired of people NOT seeing the lies that President Obama spoke. He certainly DID NOT call the attacks on the Embassy acts of terror. I took him at his suggestion, and I read the transcripts. Candy Crawley made it clear almost from the beginning who she will be voting for, and I think that it speaks exactly to just how much people want to take the lazy way out of being responsible voters by taking TV personalities and news journalists and politicians words of the moment as verifiable truths instead of FACT -CHECKING ON THEIR OWN!!!! Fact check President Obama's claims on natural energy. Fact check President Obama's statistics on employment. Fact Check President Obama's record on the Fast and the Furious. And by all means, Fact Check everything Governor Romney says. And then make an educated decision. But for gosh sakes, please make it your own opinion and not just what you see on TV. President Obama spent the entire debate attacking Governor Romney's plans, and not defending his own. If his tactics are so great that he deserves four more years, then maybe he needs to spend some more time defending those tactics and less time with the negativity.

Please read it yourself....

Full press release transcript:

Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya

Rose Garden

10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

END
10:48 A.M. EDT

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

This is a case of saying enough time until you buy it. So just to make sure everyone see what poor old gordonw12 is selling I had to show it again may just maybe you could find more bs to sell. I do hope this helps you out because if this is all you got I can understand posting over and over. Along with you and the other snake oil medicine sellers. You are just wasting your time and energy by keeping up the lies. He was caught so suck it up. Oh the 6trillion dept is because your party placed everything on the credit card and President Obama, was stuck with the bill. I would not make a diff, who was in office they would have to deal with the bottom dropping out. One reason for the price of gas was down to $1.61 nat. was because of the bottom dropping out, no one could buy gas and the price came down. Now that the economic is up so are the prices DAUH! Oh and to answer your question would be "absolutely", main reason is I trust the President. Rommey stands on the fence and what ever way he is facing is what he will tell you. Remember here is a man that follow the doctorate of Joesph Smith. Who was able to read Egyptian Hieroglyphic, and interrupted a small page of text into this long book of Abraham. Only problem is he didn't have a clue. You follow a lie it is easy to continue the lie. You figure it out.

Treason from some Republican on the day of President Obama being sworn into office. and Ryan was one of them. And now to a intelligent person earlier post: gordo please read Mary in Ohio. and learn.

Mary in Ohio

Thought President Obama did a great job - standing up for his ideals and the truth - not the Romney 'truth'.

Romney wants to blame the president for not doing everything he promised in the first 2 years when there was a majority of Democrats in the house and congress. He (conveniently) forgets the tea-party extremists and how they acted like they would bomb the white house if the tried to do too much too fast. And also, of course, how he would now be entirely to blame for anything that did not work perfectly. Government is supposed to be a combination of talented minds coming up with the best options to choose from. When one side decides to obstruct no matter the cost to the country it is not possible to get everything (anything) done.

gordonw12

seriously

Under obama 6 trillion more
in debt middle east in a turmoil border guards killed by one of his projects
ambassador killed from lack of proper security Under obama a greater divide in
AMERICA under obama a new tax that will hurt middle class citizens the most
(obama care) under obam a total lack of transparency. Under obama the division
of races has tripled. obama 1st president to win because of his race obama
causes 1st presidential candidate to lose because of his race(mccain) possibly
second candidate to lose because of his race. That is the true picture of the
lawyer in the white house DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS AGAIN

I believe my eye and ears, if you have not seen the speech then youtube it. Why do you think we have our head in the sand? This just adds to everyone's opinion about you tea party folks. Lie, lie some more and keep up the lie until everyone believe:

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. OMG=Obama Must Go!

Oh once again eye, ears, listen, and comprehension these are skill you all have lost. OMG you must go! And a transcript also damn some dumb, dumb folk here or should they hear? I guess some need it tattooed on there heads. If the fact are a problem for some of you just leave. We understand how to get our own facts, you know F A C T S.

First of all, I am an Independent; so I get the right to call bullshyt on both sides! Secondly, if you read the transcript, and COMPREHEND it, when he mentioned 'acts of terror' it was immediately following him talking about 'yesterday was already a day of mourning'. He was talking about 9/11/01. When talking about 9/11/12, he said 'Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.' Susan Rice then went on 5 shows and blamed the video; Obama went on the view and blamed the video; Obama addressed the UN and blamed the video. Please stop insulting the teachers who tried so hard to instill comprehension in you.

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

Coachdan - Apparently, the person you quoted couldn't tell what Crawford was saying. She was correcting Romney and saying that Obama did call Libya attack an act of terrorism the day after the event when he spoke in the Rose Garden.

Drew, you obviously don't understand.

Small businesses grow jobs and large businesses sustain them...not the government.

Yea, tell all the people who use the internet that government doesnt create jobs.

Perhaps if Obama ever gets an actual job he will understand.

He meant government jobs like military, postal workers, and other government agencies. Romney doesn't want to pay for more jobs through government taxes but instead facilitate small business growth and expand the private sector.

Its scary that people like you who have no idea what they are talking about, yet have strong opinions, will be voting in one month.

Then help me understand Sandy since you seem to feel superior. Please tell me how I don't understand with my degree in Business. Please explain his statement then.

And Karen, yes they do. Congratulations that you understand that. So why not support someone who actually supports small businesses here in THIS country, not China?? You don't think Government has the ability to affect that?? And if so, then how does that not help job growth. And if not, then why are you blaming Obama?? You don't get to have it both ways.

I am a small business and he has said I will finally get some relief from over burdening government.

GET IT

Goverment backing off small business HELPS me create jobs

The government doesn't create jobs. What the government does is create an environment for Americans to create jobs.

Boy do they have you fooled. Romney isn't going to help your small business. How you have been successful in business is beyond me if you don't understand that customers are what drive your small business. If you keep letting these crooks run the show and create a repeat of 2008 then you won't have a small business to worry about because there won't be any one left in the middle class to be your customer. Get a clue.

Government is not a burden on your business. But don't worry, I am sure Bain and company will come help you out when you need it...LOL.

Yea Romeny is for creating more jobs - so he can have more people to fire while he gets paid handsomely for it. You gotta love his flair for having the employees; about to have the rug ripped out from under them - build the stage for him to stand on and announce it -- What a guy!

I find it funny how all of you are defending the notion that Government doesn't create jobs. You do realize that even with your arguments, you are essentially saying that Government can impact job creation...essentially creating jobs. The question is do you just have Government get completely out of the way and have no regulation, which is what lead to this mess in 2008, and have a FREE FOR ALL for everyone involved so that the rich and powerful puts all you small businesses out of competition (i.e. Wal-mart)? Or do you think some Government regulation is necessary to make sure we all play by the same rules and act socially responsible for the citizens of this country that ALLOW YOU TO MAKE YOUR PROFITS! Spin it as you like, but those are the facts and the issue at hand.

Define 'some regulation' and please explain it clearly. When you have a president taking over a company (GM), removing the CEO and replacing him with someone of his choosing, you have a wee bit more than 'some regulation.' When you have a president supporting legislation that essentially allows Geithner to pluck private banks and hand the leavings over to mega-banks, you have a wee mite more regulation that is no longer regulation, but rather, government control.

When you have a president who places a man in control of a Consumer Credit Bureau, despite not being authorized by congress, and said individual essentially determines rules and regulations which affect the industry, you don't have regulation, you have an oligarchy.

stop trying to make more of it than it really is meant to be. A kindergardner would be able to understand what Romney was trying to say. Geesh!

I think these numbers came from the same outfit that miraculously found the unemployment rate was lower!

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I think these numbers came from the same outfit that miraculously found the unemployment rate was lower!

Well, then, let's pick a source you probably favor - say, Fox news?

Oh, lordy, they show a poll that says Obama won over Romney 70% to 30%!!!

Here is exactly what was said in the Rose Garden the DAY AFTER the attack, which is wht both Mitt and Ms Crowley were referring to: (confirmed by Candy Crowley) "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done"

Mike, YOU twisted the timeline to get the answer to the question NOT asked.

Bull sh*t Read the transcript! Obama did say in the rose garden that it could be a terrorist attack!

OBAMA: “Well, we're still doing an investigation, and there are going to be different circumstances in different countries. And so I don’t want to speak to something until we have all the information. What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests.”

Where on earth is the lie in that? At that point in time, Obama said exactly what he should have said (in stark contrast to what Romney said at the time).

Also, in review of the original article by the New York Times - it was the terrorists whom mentioned the insulting video. They had seen the video and were upset about it.

It will be good to find out the results of the investigation - but of course it will not be any time soon.

No one wanted this to happen - they are learning from this tradgety that is all that can be done now.

President Obama's measured response to the crisis is being turned against him as some kind of conspiracy or cover-up. I would much rather have President who gets his info straight and THEN comments carefully, than a president who in the middle of a crisis, feels the need to call a press conference and spew some poorly considered comments to make political hay. Romney is an idiot and those who vote for him are acting like idiots.

VoMitt RobUsBlind

Hasn't a clue as to what he is talking about

He just shoots from the hip trying to capitalise on a TRAGEDY

And it was Mittins who said Before Osama bin Laden’s death, Romney said it was “not worth moving heaven and earth” to find Bin Laden. [Source: TIME]

He hasn't a clue as to what he is talking about

Candy Crowley has already come out and said that Romney was RIGHT about Libya and Obama's reaction the next day in the Rose Garden. But for you sheeple who only watch and listen to MSDNC, you have to go to the CNN site to find that information. He was talking about 9/11/01 in that statement. THAT'S where he mentioned 'no act of terror', etc. go read the full transcript..........OMG=Obama Must Go!

~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~

Not true Sal.......read the transcript for yourself. It is all there.

So you are basing your entire vote on Libya? What exactly did Mittens do about Libya that you like? You are not real are you? Or shall I say, dumb?

To you libs that have trouble with the english language and comprehending it... Obama said "acts of terrror" he did not say "terrorist acts" or "acts of terrorists". There is a big f***ing difference ... he was still blaming the video 14 days later for god's sake! Obama is the one that lied, got caught, and then got bailed out by the moderator... over the next few days that will be the story... wait for it!

For the people who like Mitt Romney's ideas, I present the Romney tax plan. See the below link:

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

A press release later distributed by the Whitehouse that includes the word "terror" used in the generic sense, not referring to "terrorism" or "terrorist act".

Read the transcript.

Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya

Rose
Garden

Sept. 12, 2012 10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world,
American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and
values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they
brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in
an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our
Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We
are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the
American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in
our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this
outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to
secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our
security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will
work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked
our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that
respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs
of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless
violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these
brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this
attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan
security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans.
Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador
Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi
because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution,
Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage,
and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them
as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end,
Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked
tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton
and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He
was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who
aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still
striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these
four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt
that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our
shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as
we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families
who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate
sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington
Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our
wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of
this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only
sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up
for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as
strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian
and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great
nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand
for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the
United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that
justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be
done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in
stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for
freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the
country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people
around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory,
and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world
for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God
bless the United States of America.

END

10:48 A.M. EDT

Source:

I sympathize totally, Kay. Occasionally my vote counts in local elections because the county is the dem holdout in a rep state. In the national election, though, the Idaho constitution makes the electoral votes be all or nothing, so my vote doesn't ever count. It's quite frustrating.

He didn't do well, just better than last time.

Notice I said well, not fantastic. Its a nice improvement though.

And just as important, he did better than Mitt.

Obama could not do any better without calling out Congess and their total obstruction of any efforts on Obama's part to make progress with the economy.

He did not stoop to their level, which must have been extremely difficult. Extra credit to him for resisting.

That said, Obama could turn water into oil, and Romney would accuse him of depleting the water supply. Romney is nothing more than a wealthy empty suit who has nothing more to offer than an offense as his defense.
If he did tell all his true plans, his supporters who are not among the one percent would run screaming for the hills.

Face it folks...you've been duped.

You wish.

I know!

Oh my.... Do you even know who you are talking about? Obama HAS LIED HIS WHOLE LIFE TO EVERYONE.

Even Fox News shows that Obama won...

Obama 70%

Romney 30%

Just like Obama, you speak lies and believe them. Romney runs circles around Obama as far as leadership.

This is true irenermiscione-1. I thought that Mitt would knock the pres out of the box. Instead Mitt was acting like a drunken sailor and that is not who I want my life and kids lives to be in the hands of..Even if I couldn't hear and could only see. Mitt was ready to fight and this is not a good look for America

It changed my mind, I'm voting for Obama.

Still with Romney, I don't like liers like Obama, everything he says is a lie.

Yep, got to go with a flip-flopping etch-a-sketcher like Mitt to get the truth, right?

The only thing I agree with you about is that Romney's mind runs in circles! Romney wasted 90 minutes of our time with hot air and the ramblings of a Daddy Warbucks who doesn't have the foggiest idea of what the world of non-Billionaires is all about!

Romney has changed his positions on almost every issue. That is the sign of a shapeshifting liar. He is like a sponge, he fits in anywhere because he has no defined shape or position. He will say anything to anyone to get a vote. Add to that the fact that he has made almost HALF A BILLION dollars destroying companies and sending jobs to CHINA, and you see why it would be a crime to elect him President. His wife was heard telling a group of supporters that "it is our turn!"(can you say entitled?) and Mr. Romney told a bunch of supporters that he doesnt give a @!$%# about half our nations citizens. Any American who votes for this dangerous clown is being a complete moron.

Obama lost the first date but dominated a rather confused looking Romney, who seemed kind of wooden and defensive. Romney was exposeed as the master at twisting the truth and changing positions to try to atisfy everyone. I think his herky jerky movements and his overly eager attitude was a real turn off, I can't imagine this guy being President. Also you could see in his body language at the end that he knew he lost the debate.

Just like Obama, you speak lies and believe them.

Sandy if you believe what you are saying while it might be untrue it is not a lie.

I really feel sorry for this counhtry and the people in it. So many people are sheep and Obama their shepherd. But what they don't realize is he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He tells a little truth with his lies to get his followers to believe in him..and like lemmings, they will follow him to their end, they will defend him and his lies because they, themselves believe and become as he is. The only problem is, it's not just their end but the end of those who saw Obama for what he really is. A deceiver of the most clever. I received a text from a 19 year old boy that watched the debate and saw right through Obama...If Obama wins, that 19 year old boys future is gone, as are 10s of thousands of kids his age and coming up as well as the elderly. I don't need to recite why or what policies Obama has implemented or is trying to implement that will be the downfall of the great nation... that time is come and gone. Those that are blinded by him will not see the truth of Obama's treachery and secret degrees of planning and deceit. Those that can... will only be able to shake their heads and cry for this country and their families. This nation is the scorn and laughing stock of other nations. Even they see and realize the downfall of this country. Read their comments. "You Americans no great country no more. You have Obama. Open eyes and see what he does." Please vote for Romeny....and I would say that if anyone else was running against Obama. At least it's a change. It will take time to clean up the messes the last several presidents have put us in and it's no small task... but Obama has proven that he has only created much more of a mess and hasn't been able to clean up much of anything. He's destructive to this country. He should be president... I don't say this out of anger or disrespect for the 'man' Obama. Just a reality check.

Editing.. He shouldn't be president.

Romney runs circles around Obama as far as leadership.

Yep! He's leading in sending jobs to China! We don't need any more of that!

I don't need to recite why or what policies Obama has implemented or is trying to implement that will be the downfall of the great nation...

Aw, c'mon! Inquiring minds want to know! Or could it be there just aren't any facts to back this up?

"You Americans no great country no more. You have Obama. Open eyes and see what he does." Please vote for Romeny....

Obviously a Chinese post. China is hoping and praying for Romney to get elected. Their economy is faltering and they really need the boost that Romney will give them if elected.

Sandy,

Do you really want a leader the runs around in circles????

That's all Romney does!!!

"I'll fix the economy, I'll fix the economy, I'll fix the economy.... the Government cant fix the economy.... I'll create jobs, I'll create jobs, I'll create jobs... the government can't create jobs, the government can't create jobs..."

HE TALKS IN CIRCLES!!!

the truth is neither of them give any specifics. i see both sides foaming at the mouth in support for their candidiate but neither give real details. this country is falling apart. we are in debt and we talk about silly stuff.