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Subscribe to RSSWhen Vice President Joe Biden faces off against Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan, viewers might expect to see something like a reprise of silver-haired Sen. Lloyd Bentsen meeting (and by most accounts, conquering) GOP veep candidate Sen. Dan Quayle, 25 years his junior, in their 1988 debate.
Or they might expect another older vs. younger confrontation like the 2004 debate when a somber, intimidating Vice President Dick Cheney bested Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. John Edwards, 12 years his junior.
Like those past encounters, there will be a stark age contrast between the two candidates in Thursday’s debate.
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Vice President Joe Biden speaks in Council Bluffs, Iowa, Thursday, Oct. 4, 2012.
Biden, who will celebrate his 70th birthday next month, had his first big debate back in 1972 – he was then 29 years old – against Republican Sen. J. Caleb Boggs, who had been a fixture in Delaware politics for a quarter of a century. Ryan was two years old in 1972 when Biden defeated Boggs and launched his national political career.
Slideshow: Biden on the campaign trail
But despite the nearly 28-year gap between Biden and Ryan, the two are similar in important ways. Both are politicians who earned their electoral success at an early age and then settled themselves into long careers on Capitol Hill. Biden was elected to the Senate at age 29 and Ryan was elected to the House at 28.
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NBC's Chuck Todd explains that many viewers experience the presidential debates as a visual indicator of leadership ability rather than a way to dissect the candidates' policies, something that both Joe Biden and Paul Ryan will need to keep in mind during their preparations.
While Ryan has the reputation of being the consummate PowerPoint-loving policy nerd, Biden also enjoys regaling voters and reporters with details of the 1994 crime bill and his idea of federal money to help local government hire police or detailing the diplomatic parleys he’s engaged in with foreign leaders.
When he ran for the Democratic nomination in 2008, Biden told voters at Iowa campaign stops about his work to speed development of the Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle, the Marine vehicle able to withstand improvised explosive devices.
While often regarded as more of a voluble campaigner and backslapper than a scholar, when given a brief and a mission, Biden works to master it, as he did as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee when he helped defeat Ronald Reagan’s 1987 Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork.
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Vice President Joe Biden speaking in Charlotte, North Carolina September 6, 2012, and Republican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan, speaking in Tampa, Florida, August 29, 2012, are shown in this combination photo.
“Biden’s performance was remarkable not only as a combination of thoughtful questioning and self-restraint,” said Boston Globe reporter Ethan Bronner in his book about the Bork battle. Biden’s performance was also remarkable because his 1988 presidential bid was collapsing at the very moment the Bork hearings were taking place. (Biden was driven from the race because he’d lifted phrases from a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock.)
Biden’s command of the Bork battle illustrates a recurring phenomenon in his career: his penchant for gaffes and odd quips often makes people underestimate him.
Despite some similarities between Biden and Ryan, in one basic sense they’re opposites: Biden has spent his career working to expand the scope and reach of federal government – as he did with the 1994 crime bill. But Ryan has dedicated most of his congressional career to attempts to put limits to federal power and spending especially on the entitlement programs that Democrats such as Biden created and expanded.
First Thoughts: The pressure is on
Biden’s forte is putting a human face on those very same entitlement programs. Campaigning in Iowa in September, Biden said, referring to the Medicare redesign proposed by Ryan and Romney, “They're going to give your mom a voucher, a coupon, that's worth a certain amount of money … and they're going to say, 'Ma, go out into the insurance market and get the best deal you can get.'” The Romney-Ryan Medicare overhaul would apply only to people born in 1958 and later.
Biden seems more of a natural than Ryan at delivering clever attack lines, as in 2007 when he called former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani “probably the most unqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency.”
Slideshow: On the campaign trail with Ryan
But going back nearly 30 years, Biden’s friends have long known that his impulsive speaking sometimes put him in jeopardy. In 1986, when Biden was edging toward running for the Democratic presidential nomination, William Cohen, a Biden pal and then a Republican senator from Maine, told The National Journal, “Still inside of him is that boyish quality of wanting to say exactly what he wants to say. There's a lot of devil in Joe."
That remains true today – see for example the famous “this is a big f---ing deal” comment he made to President Barack Obama at the signing of the Affordable Care Act.
Since 2009 Biden has had to be the loyal lieutenant who must subordinate his ego and restrain his penchant for shoot-from-the-hip remarks.
''In the good old days when I was a senator, I was my own man,'' Mr. Biden said in 2011. ''But now whatever I say is attributed to the administration. I finally learned that.''
Obama aides were reported to be unhappy last May when Biden get ahead of the president on same-sex marriage, telling NBC’s David Gregory, “I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying one other, are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties.” The president gave his personal support to same-sex marriages just days after Biden’s comments.
On Meet the Press today, the vice president discussed the administration's position in the same-sex marriage debate.
In 2009, Obama assigned Biden the task of overseeing spending in the $830 billion stimulus and called on him to be his envoy and fact-finder on Afghanistan.
“The first thing the president asked me to do after we got elected, before we got sworn in, he said, Joe, I want you to go to Afghanistan, give me an independent assessment of what you think we should do, come back and report,” Biden told CNN’s Larry King in 2010, adding “I used to be Chairman of (the Senate) Foreign Relations (Committee).”
Biden emphasized that “I've known President Karzai for a long, long time.”
Since January 2009, Biden has held meetings with over 120 foreign leaders, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and Chinese President Hu Jintao. In addition, he has had over 100 phone calls with more than 50 foreign leaders.
And at home, Biden has served as Obama’s envoy to labor unions -- one of the Democrat’s crucial constituencies.
Campaigning in Ohio last year, Biden told a labor audience that in the face of legislation proposed by GOP governors to curb public employees right to collective bargaining, "You are the only folks keeping the barbarians from the gates," Biden said.
Biden has emphasized that one of his important roles since becoming vice president has been to serve as the final sounding board and counselor when Obama makes the fateful military and foreign policy decisions.
Vice President Joe Biden talks about bin Laden's death and details his own national security policies.
“I get to be the last guy to be with the president,” Biden told NBC’s David Gregory last May. Even though Biden opposed the raid to get Osama bin Laden, he said he told Obama, “Follow your instincts, Mr. President. Your instincts have been close to unerring.”
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Yeah. Like both are lifelong politicians. Neither one knows what it is like to have a real job. These guys need to get off the government dole and work for a living. How do we elect people that have absolutely no idea what it is like to struggle.
We'll see who is feeling what after the debate...........
Well, let's see: They are both male, they both like blue, they both like long walks on the beach......
Is this really where we have to go on the election?? I can't wait to see this debate!
Drinking game rules!!!!:
Joe Biden says "Lie, jobs created, anything about the economy they were left with, fair share, (help with ideas)" and you drink. Double shot for "patriotic duty".
Paul Ryan says "deficit, jobs lost, Medicaid, lack of leadership, Congressional budget, (add here)" and you drink. Double shot for "no federal budget in over 1,000 days".
JoeNY -- You've got to change those rules a little. I wouldn't last half an hour.
I hate to tell you this, but being a US Representative, Senator or Vice President IS a full-time job, at least when done by the Democratic party.
While the GOP instituted the current more time off policy, Joe Biden as a Senator and as Vice President has worked hard each and every day for all Americans.
The policies Joe Biden has followed have always been, is it the right thing to do, whether or not the President is in the same party. Kind of the opposite of the current GOP.
Vote Obama if you are for endless wars and soldiers being killed and mutilated at quadruple the rate in Afghanistan.
Vote Obama for the destruction of, and high tariffs on businesses that provide us jobs.
Vote Obama if you hate the Boy Scouts and despise freedom of religion.
Vote Obama if you want the national debt to climb another 6 trillion dollars.
Vote Obama if you want thousands of criminal illegal aliens swarming across the border burning our flag demanding the right to vote without I.D’s
Vote Obama if you want to see our once great Union to finally fall apart !
Out of woods: you better go back in because you sound delusional. Endless wars and dead soldiers? That is what Romney wants, or didn't you listen to his "major foreign policy speach"? He wants wars on every front; and this from a draft dodging coward. As for your other claims they are even more ludicrous. Back to fox echo chamber. Next.
Vote Obama if you want to see trolls like "out of the woods" go away.
Vote Obama if you want to see Divisiveness, Lack of Leadership, Another "Apology Tour" and Deception Coated with a Huge Dollop of Wealth Redistribution, Jaw Dropping NATIONAL DEBT, and a Chicago Hustler yapping at you on TV 40-50 times a day.
Somalia
A U.S. drone aircraft strike in Somalia in late June wounded two senior leaders of the militant organization al-Shabab, which has links to al-Qaida, a senior military official told The Washington Post. The strike, carried out by the Joint Special Operations Command, appears to be one of the first in the country—though the U.S. has conducted air and special operations attacks on al-Qaida-linked militants in Somalia before.
Pakistan
The U.S. is engaged in a counterinsurgency campaign in Pakistan, with the Predator drone becoming the Obama administration’s weapon of choice for operations in the country. In April, Obama authorized the Navy SEALs operation that killed Osama bin Laden in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Pakistani officials complained that the operation was launched without their knowledge and warned that violations of sovereignty would be met with military retaliation.
Afghanistan
After nearly 10 years in Afghanistan, President Obama has ordered 33,000 U.S. troops out of the country in the next 14 months, with 10,000 to be withdrawn by the end of this year. The decision, announced in a televised address to the nation from the White House, will leave almost 70,000 American troops enmeshed in what has become the longest war in American history.
Yemen
The U.S. is significantly expanding its counterterrorism efforts in Yemen with the launch of a covert CIA program to root out al-Qaida in the country, The Wall Street Journal reported on June 12. In recent years, the U.S. military with CIA support has carried out counterterrorism attacks in Yemen by using cruise missiles and drones. The administration’s efforts are complicated by the bloody civil strife in the country, as President Ali Abdullah Saleh, recovering in Saudi Arabia after being badly wounded in an attack on his compound, faces mounting pressure to step down.
Iraq
The State Department is preparing to assume control of a civilian-led mission in Iraq as part of an October 1 transition that would bring the last 46,000 U.S troops there home by the end of the year. Obama has so far stood solidly behind his pledge to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011, as dictated by a U.S.-Iraqi security agreement signed more than three years ago. But the president may yet be forced to go back on his word, as Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki hasindicated a willingness to call for an extension of the U.S. military presence in the country beyond the deadline.
Libya
For the last three months, the U.S. has been participating in defensive operations for daily NATO “missions” in Libya, with the goal of protecting civilians from Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces. This includes U.S. jets in Libyan airspace watching for surface-to-air missiles and air-to-air refueling for NATO strike forces. The U.S. has also been supplying most of NATO’s intelligence-gathering, surveillance, and reconnaissance capability in Libya, although no U.S. soldiers are on the ground there.
Syria
Obama in now drafting a range of contingency planning for military action in Syria including Israel and Turkey. He expressed little confidence that the Syrian government could keep its weapons stockpile under lock and key, given the widespread strife in the country.
I noticed the writers of this article failed to quote Rudy Guiliani on what he thought of Joe Biden. If I recall correctly, it was something like moron or idiot or perhaps the village idiot.
I wonder if old Joe will be taking No-Doz to stay awake !
One big difference, Ryan could NEVER use "put ya'll back in chains," without devastating consequences. I actually think Ryan has more class than to say such a racist comment in the first place.
outof the woods ~ I'm gob-smacked by your list! Obama IS ending the wars and trying not to get us in anymore. Romney would arm the rebels in Syria and woe be to us and Turkey if they fall in the wrong hands. Obama has tried to push through jobs bills - only to be stuck by a recalcitrant House. Where do get that his supporters hate the BS? We support freedom of/from religion. The National debt has been on an upward trajectory for decades. It would have done the same under McCain. Illegal immigrant deportation has exceeded any other presidency. What illegals would risk voting?
Considering Biden lost his daughter and wife in a horrible accident, I'd say he has a firm grasp on struggling, which he was very clear about 4 years ago in the last debate. He's also FAR more likable than the last VP we had prior to him, and FAR more likable than the VP nominee for 2012, the guy who hates old people will have to debate an old person, go figure.
So I figure Romney's biggest struggles in life include the following: struggling to keep his tax returns secret, struggling to be accepted by his own party, struggling to win elections, and struggling with the morality of supporting a war that he himself used a pass to get out of.
Romney is a chicken hawk, lying, secretive piece of work, and Obama struggled because his father walked out of his life. He had NORMAL struggles that we can actually relate to. No matter how hard I try, I can't relate to a rich guy that hates the little people.
Not sure how Ryan has struggled, seeing as how he wants to completely kill medicaid, he must not have had much on his plate.
On another note, what deductions do you think Romney would like to get rid of? Student Loans? Home mortgage deduction? The child credit? What exactly would be able to make a big enough dent to give as much to the rich folks as he claims he's going to give? Isn't this a question he should have to thoroughly answer before America would vote for the devil it doesn't know???
Yes - they are similar. They are both males.
Oh come on Judy, he is not, and I didn't even mention Iran, Egypt.
OBAMA IS A WAR MONGER.
The only way the US will succeed in its economy is to have the US run by none lawyers professionals. It means if you want to run for administrative position your better have
a) public administration degree +
b) minimum of 4 years mathematics/statistics+plus min 9 credits in economics +
c) must have taken 2 years physics
That means a politician must have a 6 years college study and real practical hands on experience what is like to be the average man/woman in US.
The life of US public is real and administration has to be real. What many politicians luck, without regard to party line, is that they are good at talking without any substance. It is for that reason the US economy is where it is. What do we say about people who talk the talk...?
I think a better question is 'how do we elect people that have absolutely zero marketable skills whatsoever'?
I'm sorry, but law is not a skill. Majoring in Political Science and then spending 3 years in law school does not make you skilled in fixing anything. How come - of all of our politicians - there is not ONE scientist among any of them? Where are all the engineers? Where are mathematicians? Where are the business folks? WHERE IS SOMEONE THAT WAS TRAINED HOW TO SOLVE PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF BEING TRAINED TO BABBLE SOPHISTRY IN FRONT OF A JUDGE?
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) voted to cut back on funds for embassy security. (AP Photo/J. Scott)
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.
On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."
"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,0000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we're talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you're in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things."
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
Once again the GOP/Teaparty=American Taliban have killed American Citizens overseas with there lack of knowledge about security
this debate will be predictible.... biden will say "i will save everything... I will just print the money and we'll screw the poor and middle class with inflation and slow our economy even more..." ryan will say " I will cut this and that and this, so it will be around for our kids.. Hey, it just sounds better to vote for the guy who will save everything !!!!
Yeh, Ryan is someone I can imagine kissing . . . yummy! Not so much Joe Biden . . . yukky!
What's on tap from the GOP/Teapublican VP candidate during the VP debate and for that matter the continuing saga of the GOP/Teapublican VP candidate ................. Backstabs, lies, inuendos, the selling of used cars, bullsh@t and other crapola that has become normal dialogue from the GOP/Teapublican party.
Nothing to help americans, just crapola to get themselves elected.
Why? Is Congressman Ryan going to be that boring?
Time,
Out of the woods is just stumping for Romney (get the pun?). It is a Rovian tactic, if you want to get away with something accuse the other side of it first.
OOTW:
Umm Afghanistan is over in 2014. This was Bush's exit date. You are going to blame something Bush did on Obama? That is a new one.
Actually no, a vote for either candidate will result in higher import fees. Both has said they would do more against China. Most recently Obama carried through with that claim by going to the WTO.
Again, a lie. Freedom of religion does not mean not following laws that regulate businesses. A Church that opens a business still is operating a business. They cannot carry their exempt status with them.
I will do the rest in a new post, the bloody time is running out
Pizza, Pizza! Is that you?
Obama 2012/Romney 1040
Travis from Soviet Occupied New England,
"I'm sorry, but law is not a skill. Majoring in Political Science and then spending 3 years in law school does not make you skilled in fixing anything."
But it makes you skilled at the law, and that is an important skill since we are a nation of law, are we not?
Cont. to OOTW:
Unsubstantiated conjecture. All signs point to the deficit shrinking each year under Obama for the next 4 years (2017 and forward projections had not yet been made by the CBO).
Again a baseless talking point. The only confirmed cases of Voter fraud are coming out of the GOP right now.
Positive Me,
"Yeh, Ryan is someone I can imagine kissing . . . yummy! Not so much Joe Biden . . . yukky!"
Do you usually let your genitalia make your voting decisions for you?
WHY IS LYING RYAN ALWAYS LYING?
IT IS CLEAR THE REPUBLICAN PLAN IS TO LIE TO CAPTURE THE MIDDLE GROUND VOTERS, KNOWING THE RT WINGERS WILL ALLOW THE LYING JUST TO GET THEM ELECTED.
Paul Ryan asked for stimulus money and got it. Bragged how it brought jobs to his constituents. When teabaggers asked if he took stimulus money he lied over and over saying he didn't. He finally admitted he did then tried to blame it on staffers saying they signed the documents not him. Really?///Staffers sign for millions of dollars that he is supposed to be signing for!!! Over and over on you tube videos, there he is lying about it. During the debate he will deny it again.....Flip flop jr.
Vote Obama/Biden 2012
The last of 17 letters declassified that were taken from Osama Bid Ladin's house revealed interesting information. In the letter, written by Bin Ladin, he says he wants to create a "hit squad" to kill Obama and Petraeus. But he specifically says not to kill Joe Biden, because Biden would be next in line and Bin Ladin wants Biden to assume power because he is completely unprepared.
Geowill
You have it backwards. To say that after 4 years of national debt spiraling under Obama that will change to a decreasing national debt under Obama the next 4 years is the baseless comment.
As to allowing illegals to vote, neither candidate will openly support that, but which candidate supports tighter controls over voter registration? Be honest now.
Lar,
I never said the debt would drop. Debt and deficit are two things. Our debt will continue to grow under their of these guys. What contributes to that growth will just change. With Obama it will be social programs that contribute the most. With Romney it will be military spending.
As for voter registration regulation. Our country's most distinguished feature is our right to vote. Should we really be restricting this beyond the scope of the Constitution? The Constitution states that only those who are citizens and are taxed can vote in elections. How are these not sufficient? We need to put into place a system where registrations are checked by an independent party with the SSA involved to check the validity of the restraints I will admit that much; however 3 months before an election is not an acceptable time to do this. Most of the time it takes at least a month to hear anything back fro the SSA on a simple request.
This would means potentially hundreds of thousands would be stuck in the system by election day. If Republicans were so worried about this why did they not act sooner? Why not last year or in 2010? Because they did not care then. Now that it looks like Mitt could lose they are scrambling to do something about this problem. It is a completely transparent attempt to try and influence the elections and not a move to protect the integrity of the vote. If it was about protecting the integrity they would have acted before now; plain and simple.
Goodwill
You are correct, debt and deficit two different things and you did say deficit. But I will substitute deficit for debt in my statement, he has operated under a deficit his term and that will not change for his next term. It could get worse.
I agree we should not restrict voting for Americans, but there is clearly a move by the Democrats to looses the registration standards which opens the door for illegals to vote. And illegals will vote for the guy who makes the borders porous and pays more benefits to the illegals.
Geowil,
"Our debt will continue to grow under their of these guys."
When has our debt ever not grown? I've been on this planet for almost 63 years now, and I don't remember a time when it has not grown, except possibly under Clinton.
I guess we will see another Democratic candidate have a senior moment! At least ol' Joe has a reason! Ryan will wipe the floor with Biden because he speaks truth and Biden only speaks what Obama wants him to say! People are sick and tired of hearing how horrible this country is and how anyone who has worked their a$$es off for their entire life are selfish and need to give more for the lazy in this country! I personally have no issue with helping those who cannot help themselves, but, I am sick and tired of paying for "free" healthcare, "free" housing, "free" food, and now "free" cell phones for many who just do not want to do for themselves! Welfare should be a hand up, not a hand out! After 6 months, if an individual does not try to improve their education, food stamps should be replaced with government cheese, powdered milk, and a weekly meat, vegetable and fruit distribution. I am sick and tired of seeing food stamp recipients buying steak, expensive seafood, and a whole bunch of junk food! Section 8 housing should not be better than the families of our military have to live in! Free cell phones.... PLEASE!
Romney/Ryan 2012 not NObama/Old Guy 2012
Florida election officials announced that by cross-referencing voter rolls with driver's licenses and other materials, they believed 2,600 registered voters were in fact not U.S. citizens, and that they were looking into the records of another 180,000 registered voters.
Suspected noncitizens were then sent letters requiring them to confirm their citizenship in order to retain their voter rights. Critics of the initiative said the measure was effectively a voting purge targeting black and Hispanic communities--87 percent of the 2,600 voters are minorities--which tend to vote Democratic.
The U.S. Department of Justice said it would take legal action to stop the voter purge, arguing Florida's actions were in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the National Voter Registration Act. State officials double downed on their efforts, with Scott announcing on Fox News Tuesday that his administration would be suing the federal government over the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's refusal to share its immigration database with election officials, which, he said, would help Florida have "fair, honest elections."
Ryan grew up with a pretty normal family life, which came crashing down when at 16, he found his father dead of a heart attack. His ailing grandmother then moved in with the remaining family while Paul's mother commuted to Madison to attend college. He spent a good part of those early teen years "caring" for his grandmother.
Sounds like somebody that's had his share of struggles.
Dan M,
"Ryan will wipe the floor with Biden because he speaks truth and Biden only speaks what Obama wants him to say!"
No, Biden is going to hand Ryan his ass on a silver platter!
The "silver platter " may be kind of disgusting when Joes dentures fall out onto it.
Ryan is a stand up guy who cared for ailing relatives at the age of 16, just having lost his father made that doubly difficult. No human being can take that away from him.
I have noticed a few Dems that heckle him for having lost his father, and that is just plain sick.
Good point. That is what people are concerned about Lar.
That's funny, comparing Lloyd Bentson and Dan Quail to Biden and Ryan. First off, if the Democrats would have ran Bentson for President instead of Dukakis they would have stood a better chance of winning the election. He(Bentson) and George Bush Sr. were both Texans from wealthy families so the Democrat's ,"we're here for the working class bull$hit wouldn't have cut it"! But, I saw that debate,the "John Kennedy was a friend of mine,you're no John Kennedy", retort to Dan Quail's JFK quote by Bentson. However, Quail managed to shrug off Bentson's remark because the point was in Jack Kennedy's quote. So I don't really see the point to this, other than pointing out that," I heard Lloyd Bentson,and you Joe Biden are no Lloyd Bentson"! ROMNEY/RYAN ,'12, VOTE AMERICA!
You say that in nearly every post. To say it's getting old is a litote. How old are you ?
Geowil
The Boy Scouts does not operate at a profit. No one gets rich off of them, the organization is strictly for the benefit and betterment of Americas Christian young men. It's workforce is nearly 100% volunteer. At least all scoutmasters and assistant scoutmasters are. I was both an Eagle Scout, and an assistant Scoutmaster when I was 18-19-20.
Odd thing is, we were expected to adhere to Christian morals, but in my 10 years of involvement, we only prayed twice when people died. It is not church, just Christian.
out of the woods,
"Ryan is a stand up guy who cared for ailing relatives at the age of 16, just having lost his father made that doubly difficult."
I never said Ryan was not a decent person. I simply said Biden is going to hand him his ass on a silver platter, regardless of whether Ryan is a "stand up" person or not.
Biden will eat this twerp alive. Lyin' Ryan will most likely employ the Romney tactic. I just hope Ryan doesn't rile Uncle Joe to the point that Joe makes him run crying off the stage. Public spanking is ugly, no matter how much the brat deserves it. Don't make him cry, Joe. Just send him back to play at the children's table.
T.LibGirl
Ryan had to struggle through college by taking Social Security Survivors Benefits. It is tough to be a hypocrite.
A) You're confusing me with someone else. This is only the second time I've used it, and it's a reference to Little Caesar and his incessant, dumb@ss posts.
B) Why would you care? Are you working for a competitor? Dominos delivery, perhaps?
C) I'm old enough to know how to phrase a litote without being litotic; but, then again, I'm sure you're considered special.
D) Pizza, Pizza.
LMAO..they are both politicians..lie and don't give a crap about anything...ever see a politician that does??????
Mike277
While I am a Republican I realize that neither party has a monopoly on stupidity or malfeasance.
Middle class Joe has no need to prepare for the debate, he simply makes it up as he goes along. Liberals say he is just being Joe, and the mainstream media calls it gaffs. Most with some sense of what it means to lie see Biden differently. Biden-isms are nothing but lies, and after tonight's debate Obama will be asking himself if he could have found a bullet proof vest that had a brain. Romney mopped the floor with Obama, Ryan will do the same with Biden, and liberals should already be rehearsing their excuses. Even though blame and excuses have done nothing to help the country under Obama, liberals obviously realize it is all they have to run on.
What's at stake. Voter Suppression. Women's access to healthcare. Social Security. Medicare. Medicaid. Affordable Healthcare.
Be careful who you vote for. The Devil is in the details.
This is very important...
Romney and the CONS keep blaming Obama on the economy but they fail to mention which Obama policies are at fault.
Mr. Romney, let's do some ARITHMETIC...
First,
Name the "Obama" POLICIES and the AMOUNTS that you say added trillions to the debt.
Next,
ADD the total amounts and DEDUCT from the current $16 TRILLION.
The balance = GOP spending.
Remember the following…
Expenses to FIX the GOP failed policies like TARP and the stimulus are still GOP spending and NOT Obama's fault so DO NOT count those policies.
All expenses from the previous GOP administration's unfunded policies that Obama added to his budget is also Republican spending.
The INTEREST on the GOP TRILLIONS of debt is NOT for Obama to be responsible for either, it is GOP spending too.
The GOP owns that interest.
Also,
The Bailouts are LOANS to "repair" more GOP screwed up policies, the GOP wanted those to be FREE of charge, a "going away gift" to the Banks and Wall Street, from Bush.
Do not add policies before Reagan because there was NO DEBT PROBLEM before that, Reagan took office when the debt had ONE TRILLION and could have been tackled and fixed with comprehensive tax reform but he did not.
Entitlements are a tiny fraction of the debt and they always bring their own revenues through payroll deductions as premium payments. Entitlements are NOT free, it's paid into insurance.
Saying that the Democrats had a "majority" doesn't count either, because we all know the filibustering, obstructing, uncompromising, DO NOTHING GOP party of pledges to "NEVER bring revenues" has had the "CONTROL" and all those failed GOP policies were drafted by Republicans AND all those policies passed with GOP majorities of votes going back to Reagan.
The CONS will NEVER have policies or numbers to blame on the Democrats because they DO NOT exist.
Look them up, I tried.
Every single policy at fault are GOP owned, drafted and vigorously voted by them.
DO NOT get fooled into thinking it is Obama's or the Democrat's fault.
It is time to stop this Myth.
Get ready. All you will get from the Republican Fox-Rush-bots is going to be more diversions and ridicules to change the subject, so be prepared for those.
This is NOT blaming the GOP or BUSH, this is ARITHMETIC !!!!
I hope Biden pounces on Ryan's budget plan, and the ever changing positions of the Romney campaign.
Biden will pounce alright......first you have to wake him up....then tell him where he is.......then expect his "pounce" to be......in slow motion!
Romney/Ryan will win by a landslide on 11/6/12.............
Romney/Ryan will win by a landslide ... If you are voting for most dishonest politicians.
Ryan is a good debater unless he has to explain what he is talking about. Then he "doesn't have the time" because it is impossible to make chicken salad out of what he is shoveling.
Time for Truth is an unknown or novel characteristic which your Dear Leader (Obama) fails to even recognize much less incorporate into his shadowy LIFE.
Uhh, Time for Truth, since you are so BIG on truth.... and made reference to "shoveling it", I seem to recall Barack Obama SELLING all those "Shovel-Ready Jobs" ..... that he later admitted with a chuckle, were not so "Shovel Ready". Yeah ! Barry was SHOVELING IT FOR SURE and only libbie fools bought into it !
Where did that nearly $1 trillion go ? Where was the accountability for how the funds were wasted ??
Bo 2012,
"All expenses from the previous GOP administration's unfunded policies that Obama added to his budget is also Republican spending."
And that would include the unfunded cost of these two wars which have already cost us more than 2.6 trillion dollars. That a considerable chunk of the $16 trillion right there and continuing to rise.
you dems think you have all the answers to Romneys economic plans......where was you president durning the debate,when he had his chance to confront him?
"If you are voting for most dishonest politicians" Let's see, Biden has already been forced to drop out of one presidential primary for his plagiarism, Obama is still lying and blaming the 9/11 embassy attacks on a video. Looks like we have the winners!
Bo , Tell me do you dem leftys take pills to get that selective memory?
Obama had a shock proof majority until Brown from Mass, was elected, he couldn't be touched and even his party knew. that, what he was trying to do would get them, thrown out of office.
On the news today.....the debacle on the mortgage industry started with Clinton. Went on with Chris Dodd(D) and Barney Franks(D) in the Senate. Remember "every American deserves to own a home"........even tho' they can not afford it???? Even under Bush, he warned the Senate 5 times that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was getting too big. Ignored by the Democrat controlled Congress. As far as entitlements, they all were passed by a Democrat President. So don't tell me that it was a Republican problem!!!
Me too!, then "Ol' Stupid" Joe will open himself up to explain why not a single democrat member of congress voted in favor of Obama's budget proposals for the last 2 years ; why Harry Reid and the Democrat Senate won't bring the budget passed by the House to the floor for a vote; and why Senate Democrats have not passed a budget in 1,269 days.
I love hearing the libs call Romney a liar! It is so ridiculous that they do this because their own candidates wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit them on the a$$! Obama has not gotten a single budget through and has had to live on "continuing resolutions" to keep this country going! When Clinton was president when the Republicans were in power, he managed to get a budget through, but, when Obama had both the House and the Senate he could get nothing done! Then he blamed the Republicans even though they didn't have the numbers to stop ANYTHING that Obama and his cronies wanted to cram down the throats of the voters! Many of the democrats in the Senate and House realized that we would have total disaster if Obama had his way and they allowed NOTHING to happen. Actually, this was the best thing that the Democrats have done in the last 100 years! Now we just have to boot Obama before he really causes the total destruction of this country!
Dan M,
"I love hearing the libs call Romney a liar!"
Libs only call Romney a liar because he is one. Do you mean to tell me Republicans can't recognize that? Are you all deaf or what?
biden said today that he already won the debt??!!! Sounds like obama thinking he won the debate against Romney.....What a joke we have in the White House...!!!
border joe,
"Sounds like obama thinking he won the debate against Romney....."
Obama never claimed he won the debate against Romney.
ROmney is a IDIOT
Romney Doesn’t Understand Why You Can’t Roll Down Windows On A Plane
By Annie-Rose Strasser on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Fire fighters board Ann Romney's plane
On Monday, Mitt Romney offered a remedy to the problem that caused his wife’s airplane to land prematurely last week: Allow passengers to roll down the airplane windows.
Mr. Biden, Louisianians do not speak funny, most of us are bilingual, French and English. And yes, we wear shoes and vote!
Got to love liberal logic, it is always your responsibility to point out what Obama has done wrong. How ramming through healthcare or adding 6 trillion in debt could hurt the nation. The fact that the Obama campaign is running on Big Bird pretty much sums up the Obama record. Obama has called Romney a liar, a tax cheat, a felon, the person who started outsourcing, and all without one shred of proof. Obama never says anything about how successful he has been as president, only blame and excuses for why he has failed. Obama wants a second term because he loves the lifestyle of being president, and not because he has done a good job or earned a single vote.
The title of this article suggested that it was going to be about the similarities of the two. Instead, it was an article about Biden. Whoever wrote the headline should be fired.
Funny, I noticed exactly the same thing ! Coincidence ? No. This is a libbie website complete with pro-Obama advertisements to get out the vote for Barry. I wonder if the Dems will be visiting the graveyards to "get out the vote". LOL !
Why would you fire a member of Obama's "press team", or as I call them "liberal establishment mass media" or "lemmings"? They are just the propaganda organ of the Obamessiah and are preaching the "Truth" (as they see it)! The liberals have learned from the best propagandists, Goebbels, who believed that if you repeated a big lie often enough then it would be believed! They constantly repeat their talking points and, as shown in the first debate, are not good at telling the truth about what their true aims are!
The reason Obama has taken such a hit in the polls following his pathetic debate performance is really pretty simple. The nation got a chance to see a sitting president, who supposedly eats, drinks, and sleeps the job not able to defend any of his policies or proposals. Why would Obama need to rehearse what he has lived for almost 4 years 24 hours a day? The nation witnessed an Obama that was clueless about the job he has supposedly done. No amount of spin, blame, or excuses will ever erase that reality. When Biden goes down in flames the Obama campaign will be in shambles. Obama got elected because he talked a good game (I mean read a good game off the teleprompter), but talk hasn't done much good for anyone, and no amount of spin, blame, or excuses can change that fact.
President ROMNEY - Oh that has a real nice ring to it!
Stop hitting yourself with the ball-paean hammer, the ringing will stop.
Only with heavey drug addiction. Or you have gotten slapped upside your head with the huge tax increase Romney has planned for the middle class.
I think the ball pean hammer hit your spell checker.
Romney for peace and prosperity for the next 8 years.
There's a lot of back and forth sniping on these comment boards lately, but I like concise humorous statements like dirp's that make me laugh. I heard somewhere that trolls don't like laughter.
out of the woods -- "Romney for peace and prosperity..."? You've got to be kidding. Tell me, you do get paid by the word and you just say anything no matter how ridiculous, right?
OutWoods: please stop posting your claims about Romney. they are wrong and are making you look goofy
Outofthewoods- I think a ball "peen" hammer hit your spell checker. People who live in glass houses......
He meant prosperity for Romney and a handful of other criminals who do their dirty deeds together, such as at Bain Capital, where Romney has a record of intentionally looting and bankrupting companies, leaving the workers not only unemployed but with their worker contributed pensions stolen via "reallocating assets" that can take place legally via
vultureventure capitalism. Remember Kaybee Toys? Romney was responsible for bankrupting that chain. Mr. "Job creator" himself, who cares about "everyone". That's why he sees 47% as deadbeats, otherwise he couldn't sleep at night. Why not bankrupt a bunch of workers, they're all deadbeats who go on welfare eventually, right? Actually, it seems if they have Romney running things they WILL go on welfare, whether they like it or not. Romney will have the biggest fire sale in history if he takes over the US, bankrupts Medicare and Social Security, finding ways to siphon that money...well, you get the picture. Look at a man's history. His is vile and predatory.The peace comment is beyond absurd. This is the same Romney who's chomping at the bit to bomb Iran, thinks he should threaten Russia and China "to show who's boss", and wants to give the Pentagon 2 TRILLION MORE THAN THEY WANT! You don't think feeding the war machine isn't his top plan? This shows you how deluded and out of touch with reality his poorer supporters are (which is anyone who isn't a multimillionaire). The RNC and their propaganda machine must be doing something right to hoodwink millions of people and convince them "war is peace", "Romney's form of business is GOOD for America", etc. Watch an anti-Romney film made by Republicans during the primary. See what "a great guy" he is, NOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE
By the way, Outofthewoods, "paean" is a perfectly good word, not the correct one for this usage, but real. It means "a song or poem of triumph or thanksgiving," to quote Wikipedia.
It is amazing how the libs seem to think that only their vision is the right one! Tax more, spend more, and when the economy is falling apart blame those who actually produce something more than hot air, red tape, and future bankruptcy! This country needs a huge dose of reality and I do not believe that Obama and the Democrats are willing to do anything that might hurt their grip on power! Remember... Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! Obama has tried to become Emperor by his non-stop presidential edicts which often circumvent law! The liberals also have called the Constitution a "living document" which they can use or ignore at their whim! They have complete freedom of speech (even if lying) but, the gun owners are SOL if they want to keep their weapons. (If banning guns would save just one life wouldn't it be worth it? ANSWER, NO!!!!!!!)
Obama is an unapologetic socialist who has a grudge against this country! We need change before he gets his will! He has a religious model who believes that this country deserves to suffer. He has a political model who tried to blow up the Pentagon! We need change and I hope we get it this November!
ROmney is AN IDIOT
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Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’
By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.
Unfortunately....being on the upside of that 28 year age difference also makes you more prone to dementia.....
EDC -- Romney is only 5 years younger than Biden, and he's 14 years older than President Obama. And if you ask me, Romney is demented already.
I think Romney has had a severe head injury. He can't remember his positions from one day - or one sentence - to the next. Maybe he's really not the biggest liar to come along in years. Maybe he is brain damaged. In either case there is no way this man should be near the oval office except if he's taking the tour.
Is that why even MSNBC had to admit that he was such a smashing success at the first debate.....before they blamed it on the altitude ? lol
Ask Chris "Obama gives me a tingle up my leg" Matthews who he thinks has a "severe head injury" after Obama's debate last week......then ask Bill Maher why he thought Obama looked "Dazed and Confused" and now wants his million dollars back!
Our: better go back to the woods. Romney was pushy, bossy and constantly lying. You know, himself. A lot of people are also saying that he was high on something. Cocaine? Meth? Amphetemines? Couldn't have been coffee since his mormonism won't allow it. But he was definitly high on some mind altering substance and it sure wasn't the truth.
You are a typical libbie loser.... making up excuses for Obama's failures in the debate. Lie, distract, distort the truth... all of this fills your mind since reality left it long ago.
Obama got "shellacked" ! Now where have I heard that before ? Oh yes, Obama himself after the Nov. elections 2 years ago !! LOL !!!
Hey biden....explain why BOZOhussen went all over telling everyone that a youtube video killed the USA embassy people in the Middle-East??...Even Over-the-Hill'ry says it was Muslim-Terrorists!!
Even the Prez. of Libya says it was not the video!! .. Jimmy Carter did nOT have the embassy people murdered!! but then they had Marines...The cables from the embassy asking for security are being hidden with the rest of obama's records!!
What a liar and incompetent leader we have..OMG===ObamaMustGOooo!!
He even stood before the UN and belittled our Constitution and 1 st Amendment rights!!
Deceiving
On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.
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FOX NEWS CALLS RYAN A LIAR
Romney probably imbibed in some Mormon Tea. It's made from a wild plant that grows in the southwest. Google it.
It has properties similiar to methamphetamine
Sounds like you are drinking it right now............
The main difference is:
Biden - Intelligent and honest
Ryan - Stupid and lying
Time for Truth - Delusional
Oh out, so sorry, but those are facts. Better go back to the woods.
Next
Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!.....you left out....Biden.....sharp as a razor too.....Ha!Ha!Ha!
Election: so nice to see you are coming around and are becoming aware of just how dull and stupid Ryan is.
Not so much alike -- Ryan's net worth $4.9 million (married a little rich girl so he could play politics); Biden's < $1 million. Ryan - ever serve in the military? I didn't think so. Biden - son served in the Middle East, an unjust and unjustified war.
Wait a minute...what the hell does Bidens' son's record in Military Service have to do with him?? Nothing....Just as Romneys' sons' never served..they were granted Religious deferments. Yeah, and now all of you "Peace Loving" liberal azzholes who hate the military can take shots at that....
Libbies are humorous, they magically elevate their OPINIONS, no matter how ill-founded, to the status of "FACTS" and then slap themselves on the backs for their own, self-appointed "intellectual superiority". LOL !
Most of them have no clue about a BUDGET ... which is okay with them, because Obama has NO BUDGET, NO PLAN and NO CLUE as well ! Financial ineptitude seems to be what libs brag about as their best quality !
Time
Is that your definition of plagiarism?
Moderate? -- So Mitt and all his five sons got religious deferments? and let other peoples sons fight the wars. Talk about cowards.
Gee, the Republicans were lying and that is why Obama had his proverbial a$$ handed to him! What's next, "The sun got in my eyes", or "It was the altitude", (sorry, Al Gore for stealing your line)! What the hell are you guys going to say when Biden gets whipped, "How mean Ryan was to beat up on a senior citizen", or "Maybe we should have a mercy rule after a debater loses five points in a row and that would stop the slaughter". Then the libs will call the Republicans "heartless" and take their ball and go home, refusing to debate again!
Joe Biden, man of the people, will be debating Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand disciple.
Actually Timeout for truth, it will be a virtually recognized Genius, Ryan, debating a BRICK, aka VP Joe Birdbrain. Maybe Paul will be polite and let the old fool tell us about all his idiotic statements...Like "the Middle Class has been buried for the last 4 years"....yeh, right Joe... THEY HAVE . Under YOU and that Imbecile in the Oval Office / golf Course / Vacation / Whorelywood / Star Studded Show at WH / Hiding under his Desk / Whispering "sweet nothings" to Medvedev...well, you get the picture.
And the last debate was Romney, man of ALL the people, debating Barrack Obama, Saul Alinsky disciple! (Who wrote that millions of Americans needed to be rounded up and shot in the back of the head so that the "Great Revolution" could be successful. (Rules For Radicals)!
Time for truth......why do I get the impression that you think that "denial" is a river in Egypt? You are bucking the tide......read a current poll.....any current poll.......then read another one tomorrow after Ryan explains what a budget is (amongst a plethora or cornucpia of other issues) to Biden tonight...
VP Biden dug his own grave with that "Gotcha Gaffe" when he said the Middle Class has been buried in the
past four years. And the smart money is not on his Resurrection Thursday night.
The middle class has been buried by the Bush tax cuts that the Republicans insisted by continued, by the Obstructionism of the Repulbicans that has held up a jobs bill for over a year and the Anti-Americanism of the Republicans that killed a jobs bill for veterans. It is fitting that Paul Ryan, the disciple of an athiestic self centered moron Ayn Rand, should be a symbol of the Republicans in the coming debate. Lie, Ryan, LIE!!
Logic really escapes your brain, doesn't it ?
The Bush tax cuts LOWERED taxes on the middle class helping them to survive financially.
How were the middle class "buried" by TAX CUTS! The only people complaining about TAX CUTS are government lackeys and their benefactors!
Gov. Romney promised to repeal "Legitimate Rape" on day 1..............
................sound like Mitt fail to plan.....or plan to fail.................
MR 47%........Free-Loaders
OBAMA/BIDEN
You make no sense.
GodBless...you are adisgusting s**T eating Troll.
Temper, temper.
Both are seasoned politicians now and will find a way to get rich and carry on.
Democrats or Republicans - It does not matter who is in Washington DC. They both milk the system and get rich. Fastest way to become RICH in this country is to pursue politics and get elected. This is absolutely the case in many democracies around the world. In the name of freedom and democracy - the elected officials and law makers are looking the country for the last thirty year (16 trillion debt) and the rich got super-rich.
In USA it is called lobbying, ear marks, pork -what ever...
In India it is corruption, nepotism, bribe, land deals (no auction, no competition)
Is democracy working?
I swear, it's coming to me, it's like the media wants to see Obama win. Here they are saying Biden and Ryan are equal and their first link is "Biden on the trail". It's like diversionary tactics. Why are the so invested in Obama? Why can't we go back to the days of impartial reporting? We could use a guy like Walter Cronkite again.
MILLER: Obama is even losing Hollywood
Enthusiasm for president fades in his most liberal base
By Emily Miller
The Washington Times
Tuesday, October 9, 2012
President Obama's star is fading, even in Hollywood. With less than four weeks until the election, polls are moving in Mitt Romney's direction. So Mr. Obama has had to spend valuable time courting a part of his base that he hasn't had to worry about before: rich celebrities.
After a disastrous showing in the debate, Mr. Obama saw the need to swing through Tinseltown to buck up his supporters. The first stop Sunday was an unusual closed-door, off-the-record meeting for a dozen donors who had maxed out their contributions. Joined by celebrity President Clinton, Mr. Obama spent two hours soothing jagged nerves at DreamWorks CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg's house.
Mr. Obama repeated his second-term pitch to 150 people, who paid $25,000 to eat at a chi-chi Wolfgang Puck restaurant with movie star George Clooney, film studio honcho Harvey Weinstein and Oscar host Seth MacFarlane.
The president then apologized for last week's performance at a star-filled fundraising concert for 6,000 supporters who paid $250 a ticket to see performances by singers Katy Perry, Jennifer Hudson, Stevie Wonder and Jon Bon Jovi. Mr. Obama said the rock stars "are such great friends, and they just perform flawlessly night after night. I can't always say the same."
The next day in San Francisco, he changed his excuse to being just too genuine and decent: "After the debate, I had a bunch of folks come to me — 'Don't be so polite, don't be so nice,'" Mr. Obama said at a $200-per-ticket concert where John Legend and Michael Franti sang.
While the president granted a White House interview to the Nickelodeon show "Kids Pick the President," which airs Oct. 15, Mr. Romney declined, citing a scheduling conflict. The Obama campaign seems to think it's a dereliction of duty for the GOP candidate to turn down a television show in which children ask the candidates questions and then pick their winner.
Obama for America spokesman Adam Fetcher told the entertainment site TMZ that Mr. Romney was playing "hookey" to avoid taking detailed questions from kids, adding, "'The dog ate my homework' just doesn't cut it when you're running for president." It's not likely Mr. Romney, grandfather of 18, is afraid to face youngsters. His time is better spent with voters who are of legal age.
A few celebrities have come out to back the Republican. Actress Stacey Dash made her endorsement Monday by tweeting, "Vote for Romney. The only choice for your future," to her 284,000 followers. The left went berserk, sending her an onslaught of hate on Twitter, attacking her race, career and intelligence. The star of "Clueless," was undeterred, as was "Full House" actress Candace Cameron Bure, who backed Mr. Romney on Tuesday.
This late in the race, wasting time courting celebrities in a solid blue state demonstrates the lack of enthusiasm for Mr. Obama's candidacy. Perhaps he should have asked for a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame to cement his place in La-La Land.
Emily Miller is a senior editor for the Opinion pages at The Washington Times.
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KUHNER: Why Obama will lose
President has met his match in Romney
The Washington Times
Thursday, October 4, 2012
Mitt Romney won Round 1 decisively. Wednesday's presidential debate marked the beginning of the end for President Obama. His Republican challenger was articulate, polished, substantive and on the offensive. More importantly, Mr. Romney achieved the one goal he needed to: He looked presidential. In fact, as the night wore on, it was Mr. Obama who appeared diminished, demoralized and defeated. In contrast to the president, Mr. Romney came across as a competent, experienced chief executive who is capable of governing. It was the teacher versus the student, the adult versus the adolescent, the capitalist versus the socialist.
Mr. Obama's drubbing should come as no surprise. For four years, he has been propped up by his media allies. Without a teleprompter, he looked amateurish and — at times — lost. The debate revealed Mr. Obama's central weakness: He's out of his depth. Leaving ideology aside, Mr. Obama is the least-qualified person to occupy the White House in living memory. He spent years as a "community organizer" — essentially, a glorified activist. His stints as an Illinois state senator and U.S. senator were brief and unimpressive. His record was thin. Regardless, the media establishment sold him as the most brilliant leader since President Franklin D. Roosevelt. They dissembled.
That giant fib was finally exposed at the debate. As Mr. Obama mumbled and stumbled, Mr. Romney exuded confidence and demonstrated a command of the facts. He articulated a pro-growth, tax-cutting agenda. On almost every issue — Obamacare, the Dodd-Frank financial reform and deficit spending — Mr. Romney was right and Mr. Obama wrong. The former Massachusetts governor showed that Mr. Obama's statist policies have not only failed but are suffocating the private sector. Obamacare is a multitrillion-dollar entitlement monstrosity America cannot afford, which imposes massive costs on businesses. Dodd-Frank is squeezing many regional and small banks, preventing entrepreneurs from borrowing and drying up much-needed investment capital. Mr. Obama's skyrocketing deficits threaten our very economic security.
Mr. Romney demolished the Obama team's seminal campaign narrative: class warfare. At its heart is the repeated — and false — claim that Mr. Romney will raise taxes on middle-class families by more than $2,000 to pay for "huge tax cuts" for "the wealthy." Mr. Obama's strategy has been simple and crude: Paint Mr. Romney as a ruthless, greedy tycoon — the second coming of Gordon Gekko. This caricature has come back to haunt the Obama campaign. Instead, voters saw a GOP candidate who champions sweeping tax reform that lowers rates for everyone, but will get rid of most deductions and carve-outs — the very items frequently exploited by corporations and upper-income earners. Revamping the tax code will unleash growth, make America more competitive and jump-start job creation. Rather than being a Bain Capital corporate raider, Mr. Romney showed himself to be a brainy economic manager who understands that free-market capitalism is the greatest anti-poverty program ever invented.
In the face of Mr. Obama's poor performance, liberals are blaming the debate's moderator, Public Broadcast Service host Jim Lehrer. MSNBC's Chris Matthews says Mr. Lehrer should have challenged Mr. Romney more — in other words, deliberately aid and abet the president. On his own network, Current TV, former Vice President Al Gore — I could not make this up — said Denver's high "altitude" was responsible for Mr. Obama's lethargic responses. Apparently, the thin air did the president in. The left is doing what it always does: Blame everything — and everyone — but itself for liberalism's failures.
The problem is not the moderator, the format or the altitude. It's the president, especially his disastrous socialist policies. He lost because he has no record to run on. For more than three years, unemployment has remained at more than 8 percent. Inflation is rising. Gas prices have soared. He has amassed trillion-dollar-plus deficits every year — and still the economy remains anemic. In fact, growth is slowing to a meager 1.5 percent. We are on the verge of a major double-dip recession. His administration has accumulated nearly $6 trillion in debt. The national debt stands at $16 trillion. We are now the most indebted nation in history. Under his budget proposals, the administration plans to add at least another $6 trillion to the debt. By his own future spending projections, Mr. Obama will push America off the fiscal cliff. We are heading toward Greece or Spain — a European-style basket case. Mr. Obama's legacy is one of economic ruin and looming national bankruptcy. All Mr. Romney had to do was point out the obvious. This is why he won — and won big.
Mr. Obama's team believes there is still time to turn the momentum around. The media is spinning that the foreign policy debate will showcase the president's strengths. They are deluding themselves. Libyagate, the murder of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, the rise of the Muslim Brothers, Iran, Syria, the failed "reset" with Russia — other than the killing of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama has presided over a series of foreign policy debacles. Mr. Romney will rightly paint him as the second coming of Jimmy Carter.
The Obama regime is imploding — it is crumbling under the crushing weight of its own incompetence. The president has been unmasked. After Wednesday night's debate, he even looked defeated — pale, tired and shaken. He is exiting the political stage not with a bang but a whimper. It is dawning on him: He will lose in November. He has met his match in Mr. Romney.
Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and host of "The Kuhner Report" on AM-680 WRKO (www.wrko.com) in Boston.
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Romney is a LEECH
Mitt Romney's Bain Capital Bailout: GOP Candidate's Firm Profited From Company That Required $44 Million Federal Bailout
First Posted: 01/06/2012 9:20 am Updated: 01/06/2012 9:31 am
Republicans are not the Solution, They are the Problem, they created the problem and hindered the cure, just ask George W. Bush the Home-wrecker and Mitch McConnell the Obstructionist.
Mitch McConnell says, Bush Broke it and if we don't lift a finger to help Obama fix it for four years, America will be dumb enough to believe that it was all Obamas fault all along and they will reelect us in 2012!
But Americans will get hurt, won't they?
Who cares, we'll get our Jobs Back!
dems:
obama
biden
frank
pelosi
reid
shumer
etc etc etc
seems to me that the dems are the problem...
let's see...biden is stupid.....ryan is smart....
bite him will get mad and let the cat out of the bag , he puts his foot in mouth when he talks
"Despite age gap, some similarities between Biden and Ryan"
Slight difference Biden is a idiot.
To me, Biden always appears to be a boisterous blowhard - maybe its the only clips that are reported on. Ryan always seems to have his head on straight and what he says makes sense. Just a personal observation from an independent voter
yes indeed....there is not a lot of intellectual depth with biden or obama for that matter.......obama is living proof that a person with an allegedly high IQ can be a total moron and idiot....
Republicans are not the Solution, They are the Problem!
Bush Broke it and Mitch McConnell wouldn't help Obama fix it.
You keep right on believing what Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi tell you to believe , Ted. Yeh, that's right..let those 2 POS tell you what to believe and think....ROFLMFAO.
back to the subject at hand: Biden will embarass both himself and the DimoCrap Party in the debate with the NEXT VP , Mr. Paul Ryan. Ryan will be bitch-slapping the old coot all night long. With a vengeance I hope. Put that old plick back on the road to retirement where he can look after his favorite charities...which it appears there are, let's see....NONE. Hope the old fart doesn't collapse from apoplexy!!!!
Republicans are not the Solution, They are the Problem!
Bush Broke it and Mitch McConnell wouldn't help Obama fix it.
Strong indications that Ryan knows what he is speaking of regarding the 2 most important subjects to Seniors......Social Security and Medicare. Research comments from former President Bill Clinton to Paul Ryan.
Ayn Rand Ryan paid his way though College with his Dads Social Security Death Benefits and now he wants to take them away for everyone else just to make a name for himself?
Not so fast young Punk!
Liar. Simply Liar.
Republicans are not the Solution, They are the Problem!
Nah both parties are the problem, along with the corporations and big banks that control them. We need a third party or a total revamp of our political system. Enough with the back and forth BS talking points. Wake up guys.
Of course they're alike, they're both corporate-controlled puppets who won't say even ONE specific thing that they would do once in office. These "debates" are such a joke. Slinging talking points and one-liners back and forth does not constitute a debate.
The BIG, BIG, BIG difference between Romney and President Obama IS: EVERY OTHER WORD spoken by Obama is not a MISREPRESENTATION, a LIE!
Thank you President Obama and your Administration for your superb actions that saved the United States of America from the EXTREME REPUBLICAN FAILURE the Great Recession of 2008. Without any assistance from the Republicans in Congress, including Representative Ryan, you stabilized our ECONOMY and turned our ECONOMY on a path toward growth and ECONOMIC RECOVERY.
Our ECONOMIC RECOVERY could have been considerably improved if the Republicans in Congress had represented the financial interests of their CONSTITUENTS and not the IMMORAL INTEREST of the Republican Cartel.
And he did that how? Lessee heah; he gave billions of $ in 'relief money' to 'green energy developers', many of whom spent that $ and then went bankrupt. He ram rodded a socialist health care plan through congress. He's gonna take multiple millions of $ OUT OF Medicare to pay for it. He's going to fine you if you dont have health insurance. He's bringing us into a 'big brother' government model where we are expected to rubber stamp his every whim on our life decisions without so much as a whimper about personal rights. Suuuuure, he's been a real gem....til November, that is. Just another voice.....
If Biden is to have a prayer in this debate, he has to distance himself from socialist health care. He has to say he will use his influence with the presedent to get him to use the abundant fuel developing options we have in THIS country that are NOT being tapped into, to get us off dependance on OPEC countries for our fuel. He can really make some strides if he wii embrace the idea that government isnt the 'final answer' relative to our life decisions. Whats that? He aint gonna? Well, I KNOW that, silly person. And he aint got a prayer in this debate neither....just another voice......
You clearly don't understand socialism, because ACA actually privatized a sector of medicare. All that's been done is forcing all people to pay for a minimum policy. Then, if you need/want more, go buy it. That's 200 pages compressed into a sentence. Now memorize the sentence.
Republicans are not the Solution, They are the Problem!
How so? It was Harry Reid and Nancey Peilocy that got us into the Housing Bubble, and crash, with the help of Obama through court actions. Obama is the one that hasn't had a budget since he took office. it was his administration that ran up the national debt to over 16 Trillion Dollars. If Democrats are the solution then they must be the solution to destroy the country as we know it.
DemoCraps are not the Solution, They are the Problem!
Obama SPENT it and Harry Reid CAN'T help Obama fix it. $6 Trillion and Counting!!!!
Obama Term in Office = FUBAR (F**KED UP BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION)