Obama's birther joke draws laughs in Florida

ORLANDO, Fla. - Birther jokes? Even President Barack Obama is cracking them.

Saturday during a campaign stop for beer and some politicking at a Florida sports bar and grill, the Gator's Dockside, Obama came to a table with lots of children.

Told that one blond-haired youngster, Andre Wupperman, was born in Hawaii, Obama grinned.


"Do you have a birth certificate?" Obama asked the boy, drawing laughter from the table. Wupperman, who lives in Orlando, turns 7 next week.

Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961, the son of a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas.

But he's had to repeatedly fend off conspiracy theorists -- the "birther movement" -- who say he wasn't born in this country and therefore can't be president under the Constitution.

Even the "Certificate of Live Birth" made available during the 2008 presidential campaign and attestations by Hawaii state officials have been insufficient for some folks.

So Obama released a long-form copy of his birth certificate last year in an effort to quell the rumors.

Last month, Obama's campaign lashed out at Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney when he said at a Michigan rally: "No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate."

Romney said his comment was meant as humor. The Obama campaign said it showed him enlisting himself with the conspiracy theorists.

NBC News' Shawna Thomas contributed to this report from Reuters.

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.The president has been vetted every way to Sunday by some of the best investigators on planet earth.

So it's time to stop with all the stupid birther nonsense.

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#1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatardjrashnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

President Obama is cool... Even with all the obstructionist traitors who call themselves TParty patriots, throwing America under the buss to bully him out of office. Even with all of the racist comments. Hypocrisy. The insults hurled at his wife. Doubting his patriotism. Doubting his birth certificate. Doubting his citizenship. GOP lies. Being called a Muslim, communist, fascist, socialist, racist, divider. The religious right has a problem with him showing any type of humility to foreign leaders. This list could go on forever.... He still manages to always keep his cool.

Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarOblame-OExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sorry knucklehead, HE SAID IT...... But see he is desperate for votes, so now he jokes about it hoping someone important will make a joke about it so HE CAN GET MORE VOTES!!! He is desperate...........

  • 56 votes
#1.2 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarConstitution DefendersExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It doesn't matter..who cares where he was born...it is important where he lives now that is the problem

  • 53 votes
#1.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

And he keeps his sense of humor which I imagine is CRITICAL in handling the job he has. I think my job is stressful but I know it is nothing compared to POTUS. He is simply a likeable guy with a long list of accomplishments who deserves 4 more years!!!

  • 180 votes
#1.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:00 AM EDT
Comment author avatardjrashnExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Huffington Post:

"Can you imagine where Mitt Romney would be right now if the economy were booming?" Altman said. "Not only would he be a laughing stock, but he would have no issue to run on."

By blocking Obama's jobs proposals, congressional Republicans are sabotaging the economy to win the 2012 election, said Daniel Altman, chief economist at Big Think and adjunct economics professor at New York University's Stern School of Business.

Altman pointed out that some congressional Republican leaders have admitted that infrastructure projects and reducing uncertainty would boost the economy, then turn around and create uncertainty and block infrastructure projects. For example, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has asked for high-speed rail in his own district, while pushing for deep government budget cuts, Altman said.

As a result of government job cuts, some jobless ex-government workers have lost their savings and homes. Laid off firefighters have had to watch blazes engulf homes without being able to help. Waits have been getting longer for public transportation. And larger school class sizes have hampered children's ability to learn.

Perhaps most importantly, economists said, the government has been withdrawing income instead of pumping it into the economy. Cutting off public-sector workers' livelihoods means less spending by those former workers, which hurts those in the private sector.

  • 149 votes
#1.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

More important than why "no one has ever asked to see" Romney's birth certificate is

WHY the GOP doesn't want to see his tax returns.

Where your President gets his money, where he keeps it and how much he pays in taxes is something that should concern every American citizen.

Otherwise, how do you KNOW he's not a foreign agent?

NOW, not when he was born,

  • 125 votes
#1.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:16 AM EDT
Comment author avatarCrystal-569996Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community
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#1.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:19 AM EDT
Comment author avatarneversurrenderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Odimwit will have a tough time carrying the Sunshine State, where so many people have been out of work for so long. Where so many have lost thier jobs, careers, homes, businesses, any chance of retirement, thier hopes and dreams. Many people who foolishly believed his lies and empty campaign promises last time will not be voting for him in this election. Left wing extremists won't have to worry anymore about others not worshiping thier one-term false messiah the way they demand. President Odumbo will be voted out this November. (And it's coming fast).

  • 40 votes
#1.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:27 AM EDT
Comment author avatarcirque1946Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Just answer the question: Why did obuma spend over a million dollars to try to keep his birth certificate a secret. Answer it and we will let it go.

  • 47 votes
#1.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMike Davis-433554Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It's only "conspiracy theorists"? Try the likes of Arizona Sheriff Joe Arapaio, Rep. Michelle Bachmann, Donald Trump, Gov. Mike Huckabee, and Rep. Newt Gingrich. And, by no means do I think this lays a shred of credibility to birther claims. It's just the perfect example of how Republicans have persistently lied about Obama throughout his presidency. If Obama loses and my kids ask me why, I'm telling them it's because the Republicans make lies like this one and there's a ton of Americans who are stupid enough to believe it.

  • 123 votes
#1.10 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:33 AM EDT

cirque1946 - That's a lie. Debunked many times by many sources.

If you continue to believe it, there's nothing we can do to help you.

So just let it go.

  • 93 votes
#1.11 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarkip360Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

And none of them have proven he was born in Hawaii, only that his momma filed with the state of Hawaii he was alive.... Nor did he go to Columbia U or how did he got into or payed for his time at Harvard. So how can you say he was "VETTED THREE WAYS FROM SUNDAY" The truth will only be known when Obama unlocks the door to his life.

  • 29 votes
#1.13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:39 AM EDT
Comment author avatardavid-475776Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Dear Honorable President Obama,

Please do not reopen this bag of worms.

During the 2008 Presidential Debate you stated as a Verbal Contract as your Solution to the repeated deployments of the 1% of US Citizens of the US Military that you would start the Selective Service and or Mandatory Compulsory Military Service (you said "Draft") to Force the 92% that have NEVER served in the US Military to do their Civic Duty, as "US Military Service is a Civic Duty" and "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement".

That "US Citizenship is not an Entitlement" (based on accident of where one was born) caused all these "Conspiracy Theorists" to start barking up the wrong tree, Birther thing.

You honestly do not want them looking into other matters.

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:45 AM EDT

Too right, dj. Back during the time of national Prohibition (1920-33) more than a few Senators voted "Dry" then would attend society parties and expect a drink. These Republicans in Congress want austerity and deficit reduction for everyone else's District.

You don't hear much these days about the quartering of troops in private homes yet it's in the Constitution. The birthplace of the President is just about as relevant in this day and age. That provision was included to make certain we didn't have a British-born President who might be more loyal the the Mother Country and let the new nation be re-colonized.

  • 18 votes
#1.15 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatardanny-1798355Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey old guy: you might want to think about what you say before you check your facts because your mr third world president has money in the same place MR. Romney has some and you can not be a tax cheat if you play by the rules I am sure you do all you can to save on your taxes oh my bag you don't pay taxes on your Welfare checks

  • 21 votes
#1.16 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarcirque1946Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

OMG why don't we just trash the whole Constitution. I would bet you liberals would just love that.

  • 21 votes
#1.17 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:50 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJoJo 2008Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

kip360...........do you have S*&% for brains?

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#1.18 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

danny - your mr third world president has money in the same place MR. Romney has some.

How do you know where Romney has his money?

YOU DON'T.

  • 50 votes
#1.19 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarAllen-2635884Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Oblame-O.....sounds more like YOU are desperate....and you should be..he will win hands down and you can stick it.

  • 23 votes
#1.20 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHopeful AmericanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@ RealAmericansFirst:

WHY the GOP doesn't want to see his tax returns.

Where your President gets his money, where he keeps it and how much he pays in taxes is something that should concern every American citizen.

WHY? I could care less how much Romney has made or how much he has or hasn't paid in taxes. If the IRS is good with his returns, I'm good. I would think all the Dems would be good to - so trusting in the big government bureaucracy and all!

So just let it go and stop being envious and jealous of a hugely successful person who has made a lot of money. At least he does pay income taxes, unlike 50% of the American population!

  • 17 votes
#1.21 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

Just answer the question: Why did obuma spend over a million dollars to try to keep his birth certificate a secret. Answer it and we will let it go.

Answer this question first. How does one spend any money to keep a public document secret? Where was this money spent? Who paid it, and where did it come from?

  • 55 votes
#1.22 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:02 AM EDT

OMG why don't we just trash the whole Constitution. I would bet you liberals would just love that.

Really? Liberals are the ones who declared wars or weakened the provisions of protection of the individual against the state? They are the ones who authorized torture?

And you call yourself a defender of the Constitution? Do you wonder that we think you are a hypocrite?

  • 58 votes
#1.23 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:05 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMisterWonderfulExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

according to the Bureau of Labor statistics, liberals lie. The unemployment rate among government workers is the lowest of any industry, at 5.1.

So for all you lying liars, this is yet another thing you are 100% wrong about, and another thing Obama has lied about.

The private sector is limping along, Obama policies have decimated some industries (coal) causing our energy costs to rise as Obama promised it would, while he broke bankruptcy law in transferring ownership from GM bond holders to the union, while GM now builds 70% of their cars outside of the US, using TAXPAYER dollars given to them by Obama in both the stimulus and the tax breaks he gave them, allowing GM to net $7.1 billion last year and pay NO TAXES.

Obama is a crook, a liar, and all libbies can do is lie along with him, because the truth is very ugly.

I don't care about Romney's tax returns, I care about Obama actually pilfering BILLIONS from all of us while running TRILLION dollar debts during which time he has failed to meet with the Budget Chairman for more than a year, has not met with his jobs council in 2012, has golfed more than 100 rounds, and has held more than 200 fundraisers for himself.

Seriously, would any Corporation on earth hire a guy to run their company with ZERO executive experience, ZERO economic education, and has a history for focusing on only himself and his hobby?

  • 24 votes
#1.24 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:11 AM EDT

Did you know that in the 2008 Presidential election that one of the candidates was not a NATURAL BORN UNITED STATES CITIZEN but a naturalized at birth citizen due to being born to two American citizens (one of which was active duty military) in a foriegn nation. That man at birth was both a naturalized U.S. and a Natural Born Panamanian Citizen. The man is not our current President "that" all these uninformed and uninformables are ranting about, He is the man that lost the election. Have any of you just once heard them question the Birth Certificate of this NON-NATURAL BORN CITIZEN? No? Could it be that it really is not an issue to them, in fact all it is is DOG WHISTLE for "he was born the wrong color." A dog is a dog and birth-er is dog whistle for just plain racist.

  • 45 votes
#1.25 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:17 AM EDT
Comment author avatardavid-475776Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

cirque1946- OMG why don't we just trash the whole Constitution.

Your wish is already done. How's that for speed in granting your wish.

President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural) already did that: "Expanded Presidential Powers", "US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens", "Monitoring and Cenorship of All US Communications", "Preemptive Dententions of US Citizens", "Material Support to Terrorist Organizations including "Expert Advise" (no legal representation) currently being fought by the ACLU, "US Military Tribunals" (no legal representation, "classified evidence and witnesses" not available to legal defense), lots more etc.. Inclusion of the previously defeated as Unconstitutional US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955 aka the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crime Laws including many definitions like "Anyone Stating a Radical Change to (US) Government is a Homegrown Domestic Terrorist". "Classified Sections".

President Obama shown during a Staged News Media Event January 22, 2009 signing into US Laws his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws) 04:38 minutes of 11:55 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE

I find it kind of ironic that the Russians know about this and the US Citizens don't. Uh duh, never mind forgot about the "Monitoring and Censorship of all US Communications" of President Obama's Patriot Acts.

cirque1946 - I would bet you liberals would just love that.

Second wish, Why not, the US Constitution was written for the Constitutional Republic of America; not the Democratic Nation of America.

Oath of Loyalty to the Republic of America by Legal Immigrants to become US Citizens aka the Pledge of Allegiance.

What is your third wish, cirque1946.

  • 10 votes
#1.26 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:22 AM EDT

Romney! Release your tax records!

  • 44 votes
#1.27 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:26 AM EDT

ALPHA-OMEGA,

There you go again, I already told you to read the Amended US Law Requirements to become the US President.

I also told you to research the International Reciprocal Citizenship Laws, Treaties, Agreements, etc..

Both of which covered McPains arse both Nationally (US Presidential Candidate) and Internationally.

Like the dumb arse Birthers you are barking up the WRONG Tree, dig into something else about McPain instead of wasting your time like the Birthers.

  • 11 votes
#1.28 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

For all you idiot Obama Supporters, Google Search "Dreams from my real father", it was a Book Written in 1995 by Barack Obama, he Admits he's a Marxist (Communist) and him and his Father's dream was to Destroy America.

He's doing a good job Destroying America.

Let's see what Obama has done:

Attacked Libya without Congressional Approval.

Signed the NDAA Bill into law allowing the Detention and Assassination of Any US Citizen without trial, a Federal Court blocked it in May but Obama is trying to Get that Unblocked.

Raised the National debt over $6 Trillion in His First 3 Years.

Killed HUNDREDS of Innocent people (Excluding the FEW Terrorists) including three American Citizens in Yemen and Pakistan using Drone strikes (Even more Drone strikes than Bush).

Tried to Ban guns with The UN Even though it's unconstitutional and Obama SWORE to Protect the Constitution.

Obama Claims he Supports Freedom of Speech even though he Hired Staff to Censor his YouTube channel.

He claims he Campaigned in 57 States.

And Mitt Romney is just another idiot who will sell Jobs over seas.

Vote for Gary Johnson.

  • 12 votes
#1.29 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:36 AM EDT

?

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:03 AM EDT

you tube when Romney came to town

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#1.31 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:10 AM EDT

MisterWonderful

according to the Bureau of Labor statistics, liberals lie. The unemployment rate among government workers is the lowest of any industry, at 5.1.

It would seem to me that the unemployment rate among government workers is the lowest of any industry, at 5.1 is not correct. Among government workers it is ZERO, and those who are no longer government workers it will fall into the stats given for their location or the nation as a whole.

Have you ever considered the concept of absolutely no government workers? The United States would immediately become nonexistent and that would also include states, counties, and cities. Yes something would still be there but we would not recognize it anymore.

The Neo Fascist think that government is the problem and Corporate America (Government) is the solution but the last Administration gave us a fleeting glimpse into that horror story.

We need government that is responsive to the people and not wealth, government that is concise and efficient and caring and the neo conservative brand has shown to posses none of these qualities.

  • 18 votes
#1.32 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:13 AM EDT

ALPHA-OMEGA

LOL. Clearly evident that you have no idea who President Obama's Buddy "Mr.Corporate America" is. "Mr. Corporate America" makes the Krotch Brothers seem like two cent wanna be ganstas.

Go do the Research, then post his name below on the next post.

Your Research into finding out who President Obama's Buddy "Mr. Corporate America" is more valuable to you than my spoonfeeding you then you starting the already anticipated name calling.

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:22 AM EDT

David, you must read the sources you listed then study them to find out what they really mean. Only the first few of our Presidents could have been non natural born by our constiturion and as it worked out every president we have had has been natural born with none being naturalized.

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:25 AM EDT

cirque1946 said:

Just answer the question: Why did obuma spend over a million dollars to try to keep his birth certificate a secret. Answer it and we will let it go.

I did not know the President had spent over a million dollars trying to keep his birth certificate a secret. But if true and even if someone did come up with a reasonable explanation of "why the money?," I somehow doubt you and your birther friends would "let it go."

If the Three Wisemen, themselves, somehow witnessed Obama's birth in Hawaii, it would not satisfy the birther crowd.

  • 26 votes
#1.35 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:28 AM EDT

Bill Clinton started the "birther" thing during the 2008 Democratic primary race, promoting Hillary as the best Democrat for President. Clinton should be "birther in chief". Obama likes to paint birthers as "crazies" because it amuses his base, and amusement distracts from his jobs record. Obama carefully omits pointing his finger at Clinton as "birther in chief" because he needs Clinton's star power.

  • 10 votes
#1.36 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:33 AM EDT

ALPHA-OMEGA - David, you must read the sources you listed then study them to find out what they really mean.

I don't want your interpretation. I already them myself as well as the interpretations of the Harvard International Review and the US Supreme Court.

  • 2 votes
#1.37 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:35 AM EDT

Obama tells a JOKE!

this is headline news?... Is the media that desperate to keep him in the news cycle?

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#1.38 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:45 AM EDT

david-475776

ALPHA-OMEGA - David, you must read the sources you listed then study them to find out what they really mean.

I don't want your interpretation. I already them myself as well as the interpretations of the Harvard International Review and the US Supreme Court.

Good then you agree with me or do you need to study them again?.

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:49 AM EDT

UnitedStates1776 ....."The president has been vetted every way to Sunday by some of the best investigators on planet earth. So it's time to stop with all the stupid birther nonsense."

This issue is being regenerated by the President of the United States, Mr. Barrack Hussein Obama himself. If it were anyone else, there would be no end by the Progressive criticism.

SO, it is time Mr. Barrack Hussein Obama KNOCKED IT OFF !!!

However, if he wants to continue with this issue, then apparently it is FAIR GAME.

BTW, it is time Mr. Barrack Hussein Obama produced copies of his college transcripts and STUDENT LOAN RECORDS.

  • 7 votes
#1.40 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:09 AM EDT

I'm an OBAMA supporter and Romney was joking but I think is was meant to the RIGHT, the joke was about the DOUBLE standards that is used, it was not meant to create that same doubt but it was to make fun of people that thought Obama was not a citizen. Thats the way I took it. School records LOL is that what you find important, important is where is Mitt's Tax documents, I think that is very important along with Million of Americans.

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:26 AM EDT

What would have Obama quipped if he had of been surrounded by anchor children?

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Is this the same guy that has to been to 57 states, and humiliated himself and the military calling them "Navy Corpse Men" - The same guy that talked about "Polish Death Camps"? Yea, he's a JOKER alright. The JOKE is HIM!!!

Romney - Ryan 2012 !!!

  • 10 votes
#1.43 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:57 AM EDT

Is the media that desperate to keep him in the news cycle?

You actually asked this question?

He's running for re election for POTUS. How is he NOT going to be in the news every day?

  • 19 votes
#1.44 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:05 AM EDT

This is just media hype so they do not have to deal with any serious issues. Look at all the responses it will get from the left wagging their pinky. Hilarious.

  • 3 votes
#1.45 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:07 AM EDT

I find it funny you guys so worried about someones tax returns. NO candidate is required by law to show their tax return. Tax return information is private information. I would like to see all you whiners post your returns for the last 7 years if you so worried about it.

I thought so...

  • 4 votes
#1.46 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:09 AM EDT

Romney gave his tax returns to McCain when he wanted to be VP. McCain picked Palin over Romney. Romney will not make that mistake again.

  • 19 votes
#1.47 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:01 AM EDT

It is simple. Birthers are idiots and everyone knows it.

  • 26 votes
#1.48 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:16 AM EDT

So where was the RepubliCon's Biggest Birther, Trump? He has been in hiding lately. Was he even at the Tampa Circus? Funny how polls affect the RepubliCons, uh?

  • 17 votes
#1.49 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:23 AM EDT

Yeah the jokes over Mr. Obama send out the real president, and to all that have an obama 2012 sticker on your car thanks for letting us know who the idiots are in this country. My daughter lives near the charlotte area and she said that the bs and stupidty was so thick in the air you could cut it with a knife, she said that wasn' t the dnc it was the wtc (white trash convention).

  • 5 votes
#1.50 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

cirque1946

Just answer the question: Why did obuma spend over a million dollars to try to keep his birth certificate a secret. Answer it and we will let it go.

Ok smart*ss, I'll answer it for you, and when I do, I don't want to hear another birth certificate comment come out of your mouth.

First off, show me ANYTHING that says Obama went to court and asked a judge to block the release of his BC.

2nd. When someone sues you, or files something against you in court, you are required to respond to that or you risk a judge declaring a summery judgement against you. Meaning that every time some retarded birther like Taitz went to court, a lawyer for Obama had to do the same. And last I checked, lawyers don't always work for free. Add in filing fees and the other legal bullsh*t that goes with it and the $$$ adds up over the years. It's pretty pathetic when you think about it. The idiots sue him over the claims he's not a citizen, then when he's forced to answer the claims via lawyers, they use the cost of doing that as proof he's spending money to hide it.

Pathetic? No, actually it's f*cking retarded. Move the f*ck on, please.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-donald-has-a-memory-lapse/2011/04/14/AFrme2MD_blog.html

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

Read please, then stfu.

  • 17 votes
#1.51 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

The President was born in Hawaii, an American state, thus a natural born US citizen...no doubt;

.

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the President was born to an American mother...no doubt...thus a natural born US citizen

.

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case closed...how dumb the birthers have to be...sometimes, I think a college education is required for common sense?

Or, at least, a basic reading comprehension is important to live a meaningful life.

otherwise, Donald Trump would make himself an arse, and also make others uncomfortable.

  • 14 votes
#1.52 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

the president was born to a Kenyan dad who did not be US citizen, ergo Obama has Kenyan citizenship and is !/2 immigrant to US, historical since the beginning of countries. (could interpret natural born as "not about geography" makes more sense.)

  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:54 AM EDT

A father from Kenya, a mother from Kansas, a name from the Middle East, born in Hawaii, and a senator from Illinois and the guy who is letting millions of Mexicans steal the resources of the American poor.

Is it a wonder why people are confused?

  • 2 votes
#1.54 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

Quite frankly I don't find Obama's comment as a joke but rather one of arrogance. Many people had legitimate concerns over his birth records and he couldn't or wouldn't produce them. To make fun of those Americans is a stap in thier faces. It also may indicate that he feels now the he has gotten away with it if he indeed is not eligible to be the President. I am still not 100% convinced he is but was not one of the birther crowd either.

On another note it amuses me how so many continue to harp about Romney's tax returns...lol. He himself probably doesn't know what all is in them. He most likely has a team of experts who know every possible loophole combination and spend months preparing his returns. I spend about 3 hours doing mine s mostof those complaining do. There is no doubt in my mind that there will not be anything in those tax returns that will cause anyone to change their minds about who they vote for. After all we did vote in a person to the highest office in the land without a birth certificate proving he could even run for the office. what are a few tax returns in comparison.

  • 1 vote
#1.55 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

Of course Obama gets laughs! He is the biggest joke ever!

I do not care where he was born! He is full of crap and a poison to the freedoms enjoyed by this nation! The only ones who think he is great is the ones enjoying a free ride on the back of the rest of us!

  • 2 votes
#1.56 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

It takes all kinds, Ive been employed my entire life in fact my whole family has sisters brothers cousins and uncles..I,we are middle class who would never vote republican, "they are" the desperate one's spewing their trash talk knowing we will lead in votes. They come from two mind sets, people that don't understand and the 1%ers.

  • 8 votes
#1.57 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

Easy people! its only 4 more years of bull$hit! (if he gets re......) if he don`t Mitt could start da blame game!!!! as it worked 4 this a hole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.58 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

Who cares where Obama was born.

It's where he lives now!!!

That's the problem.!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.59 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

neversurrender #1.8~~Everyone with a brain the size of a pea, never stoops to the level of school yard name calling and knows full well that the gop policies caused the job losses, by giving the "JOB CREATORS" more and more tax cuts, making it more profitable for them to place those profits in off shore banks, where they just set, TAX FREE and GAIN more TAX FREE dividends, without having to invest any of their wealth in employee wages and/or maintaining a company, HERE IN THIS NATION, that would benefit all of this nation, as has been through out the years of progress and prosperity for America, by Americans, in America. Now that so many have lost their JOBS, CAREERS, HOMES, BUSINESSES, PENSIONS, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, i.e. HEALTH INSURANCE AND SICK LEAVE PAY, RETIREMENT INSURANCE, 401K'S AND PERSONAL SAVINGS ACCOUNTS, I believe the American people have learned from history and will vote OUT all of these republicans, who have caused this mess and continue enforcing this mess upon the American people, by obstructing and saying NO to any and all advancements toward recovery. I do not believe the American people will want to continue LETTING REPUBLICANS TAKE THE FRUITS OF OUR HARD LABOR, i.e. MEDICARE, OBAMACARE, SOCIAL SECURITY, JOBS, and the safety nets for the poor, and give it to the very wealthy. Romney and Ryan have told us they will cut these rights and benefits and anyone who votes for Romney/Ryan are voting against their own best interest, and voting FOR, NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, NO MORE MEDICARE, NO MORE OBAMACARE, and NO MORE JOBS.

  • 6 votes
#1.60 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

If Obama is good enough for Bill Clinton he is good enough for me. That plus Robmehood/Ruin are not the kind of people I want to run the country. To rich, to out of touch and unable to understand the pain caused by their trickle down economics.

  • 10 votes
#1.61 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

Good enough for Bill Clinton, you mean the lying cheating President. How fast you forget Monica Lewinsky! It's just too bad that Obama was not vetted more BEFORE he was elected. The fact that Romney is rich is a testament to where he could bring out country - out of the HUGE HOLE THAT OBAMA DUG FOR US. Think about that!

  • 3 votes
#1.62 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

The last Presidents to pay down on the national debt were President Clinton and President Carter. Democrats by their record are better at running the economy than republicons.

The real national debt has actually started to go down now too under President Obama. There is still a very long way to go though. After all even with 9% growth rates under the New Deal it wasn't until 1954 that the average American was back to where he was in 1928.

And all the republicons want to talk about is birth certificates.............

Where are your tax returns Romneyhood? Did you take that amnesty for tax cheaters?

  • 7 votes
#1.63 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

"There you 'go' again!" All of us are birthers . . . we give birth to another Donald Trump every time we sit on that white porcelain throne in the washroom.

  • 2 votes
#1.64 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

It's typical Leftist hypocrisy that they get their panties in a wad over the "birthers", yet they seem to have no problem with the large number of "9/11 truthers" in the Democratic Party.

Not even when Obama appoints one as a "czar".

  • 1 vote
#1.65 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

Rumors that Romney is a "ANCHOR BABY" and Mitt's Grandfather was from the Mexican Drug Cartel, this is where all their wealth started from, Now we have Blood & Drug money buying Votes in America !!!!!!!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.66 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

GREATGRAN101

You couldn't be more WRONG.

Income earned inside the United States and subsequently placed into offshore accounts ARE taxed. There are income taxes paid and any dividends earned are also taxed as long as they are DECLARED to the IRS as Romney HAS done.

Only for CORPORATE income earned in FOREIGN countries can taxes be deferred until the funds are brought into the United States. Individual income received overseas IS taxable.

And it only makes sense to do so considering that the American corporate tax rate is the HIGHEST IN THE WORLD and that the United States is the ONLY industrialized country in the world that requires that FULL taxes be paid domestically in addition to the taxes already paid to the country in which the money is earned.

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

@Chris from Yucaipa,

Its funny how well applied facts and a spinning wheel kick (or Lunge) look alot alike :) Way to go all "literary" B.L. on his arse:)

I REALLY, REALLY enjoyed reading that one.

Regards

  • 2 votes
#1.68 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

Told that one blond-haired youngster, Andre Wupperman, was born in Hawaii, Obama grinned.

"Do you have a birth certificate?" Obama asked the boy, drawing laughter from the table.

LOL That was a good one Mr. President, BUT, if little Andre grew up and wanted to be President, they wouldn't have any problem with him being born in Hawaii, why, well, there's two "code words" in there...

BLOND-HAIRED!"

OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.69 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

donald trump has spent millions putting together a dossier;

certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate, you can be born on the moon, if any parent is a citizen of Hawaii, they can register your birth in Hawaii.

Grandmother says she was present at his birth in Kenya, ambassador to the U.S., from Kenya , who knew his father says he was born in Kenya, his college transcript application says he was born in Kenya, Harvard law review says born in Kenya, voter registration in Chicago, says born in Kenya, running for senate 2006, says born in Kenya, Fulbright scholarship application says born in Kenya; there is something very strange about this situation.

  • 3 votes
#1.70 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

saxon

donald trump has spent millions putting together a dossier;

LOL, yea, and any idiot, you included, would believe anything Trump says, after all, he's Trump!

So from all the agencies involved in investigating presidential candidates, including the Secret Service, they are all involved in a conspiracy....LOL!!

OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.71 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

moshuluu; at first I also laughed at the Birthers; however when the information he himself gave out on his college applications said he was born in Kenya, he does not have a valid social security number, it belonged to a Connecticut man who died 40 years ago, I can only come to two conclusions, one he was born in Kenya or two, he just made up a phony background,( by the way using someones Social Security number is a federal felony, that is why he had to resign from the Illinois bar, he forgot to put on his application, he traveled on a Indonesian passport, his real name is Barry Sorento,(he was legally adopted by his stepfather) and he did not have a valid social security number

  • 2 votes
#1.72 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

fool...........think you forgot to say...maybe....Highest tax rate in the world before the tax breaks and loopholes are factored...duh! After........not!

Romney has not proved he has paid all his taxes on offshore accounts...that is why he won't show them.........incompleto amundo 2010 and estimato..tomato 2011..only

Romney outsources American jobs offshore and it is the right thing to do? Offshore accounts...the right thing to do?....YA FOR GREEDY RICH PEOPLE WHO SKEW THE TAX LAWS TO AVOID PAYING TAXES LIKE ROMNEY! NOT FOR REAL AMERICANS!

    #1.73 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:05 AM EDT
    Reply

    Romney has been asked for his tax returns....NO

    His plans if were elected....NO

    The truth about when and for how long he was CEO of Bain....NO

    • 81 votes
    #2 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

    It is time that Romney show his tax returns. The American people needs to demand it.

    • 72 votes
    #2.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:46 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarConstitution DefendersExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    How about all the sealed records that OBAMA has maintained...no one knows a thing about him, yet you libs continue to back him...what is up with that?

    • 30 votes
    #2.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

    Actually at this point, everybody KNOWS that Romney is NOT proud of what is in his tax returns and he KNOWS it would hurt his ability to be elected... otherwise, he would have already produced the returns. Notice how he squirms when asked about them.... you can always read the body language of a liar and cheat.

    • 65 votes
    #2.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT
    Comment author avataroctopus9498Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    2 years is good enough for me. As long as he hasn't done anything illegal I don't really care what's on his tax returns.

    • 21 votes
    #2.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

    well octopus9498, IF he SHOWED us his tax returns, we could DETERMINE if he did anything illegal. And IF he SHOWED his tax returns, then we would all KNOW he pays practically NO taxes and yet wants to give himself another tax cut! When you have nothing to hide, you put up!!

    • 56 votes
    #2.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

    octopus.....U need to catch up on current events...Romney has NOT shown complete taxes from 2010 and 2011 is just an estimate.....

    • 33 votes
    #2.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:19 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarRetiredGAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Ten years of tax returns means Romney would need to provide his tax returns from 2001 through 2011. According to FactCheck.org, Romney was on leave from Bain from Feb. 1999 through March 2002, but he may have still drawn a full salary from Bain. From January 2003 through January 4, 2007, Romney was governor of Massachusetts, which I would guess he didn't earn as much as he did with Bain Capital, and didn't actively work for Bain after 1999. His income from his investments would have been capped at 15% from 2003 forward. So, unless he was employed in the private sector after his term as MA governor ended in 2007, which I doubt, the maximum rate that his income taxes could be is 15%. So, hearing that he paid 13% is reasonable for 2003 through 2011, given that he had deductions for his tithes, mortgages and any investment losses.

    • 6 votes
    #2.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

    Constitutional defender: I would like to know where you got your information about Obama's "sealed documents." My guess is you read it on the internet in some right wing blog. My further guess is that the people on the internet you got your information from also got theirs on the internet.

    • 36 votes
    #2.10 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:29 AM EDT

    No candidate for President in the last 30 years has released fewer than 5 years of tax records.

    Romney knew this when he started running and still refuses to release his.

    Something smells.

    • 54 votes
    #2.11 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:40 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarcirque1946Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Where are his college dissertations? Who paid for all the years he was in college? Where are his applications to college? Where is any information at all about obuma. Where are his friends from college? Who were they? Were there any former girlfriends? Who were they? How come Obuma did not join the service? Who supported him to become a senator? How did he become a senator in Illinois? Who supported him? Show me this info. Where is it? What do you really know about him? This pathetic individuals life has been maneuvered and manufactured by his handlers. When ANYONE else would produce a birth certificate this man spent over a million dollars to deny access to his. He has lived a make believe life whose true facts remain hidden.

    • 7 votes
    #2.12 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

    octopus9498 - 2 years is good enough for me.

    If you have seen 2 years of Romney's tax returns, can you share the second one with us?

    He hasn't released his 2011 return yet - just 2010.

    • 29 votes
    #2.13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

    cirque1946 - You have never had any of that for any President you ever elected. You don't have it for Romney. Have you asked for his?

    Who gives a crap what someone made in college when they were 20? Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, so he had at least a 3.5 GPA at that point.

    What I don't get it why Romney's tax returns aren't an issue but all this long-ago garbage of Obama's is supposedly SO important? Well, actually, I do get it, but it's pretty stupid.

    If you would like to become more informed, try this article at FactCheck.org:

    Nothing ‘Sealed’

    The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.

    In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.

    So as with earlier versions, this is little more than an attempt to raise suspicions by asking for records that aren’t ordinarily made public, without any evidence that those records contain anything derogatory. We’ll take the claims and questions in the order they appear.

    Note: Spreading falsehoods that you know are false is called "slander". Look it up.

    • 32 votes
    #2.14 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:47 AM EDT

    Oh my goodness!! Would I love to see George W's college dissertations!!! And when I was in college, I had no friends either! I studied my ass off... I didn't have time for friends!!! I could not tell you the name of one other student I went to college with and that's the truth!

    • 19 votes
    #2.15 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:54 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarcirque1946Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    It's not stupid. You all want Romney's tax returns. Why? What are you going to do with them. Will you understand them? Are you going to disect them to the nth degree. So the hell what if he makes millions and millions of dollars. Who gives a crap how much he makes? We feel the same way about all of obumas secrecy as you do about the taxes. Why then are we called birthers, teabaggers, neocons and etc. Why is it different that we request background papers the same as you? WHY? What is stupid to you is not stupid to us and I am sure you feel the same. I think everyone should totally stick to the FACTS and not the fiction fed to everyone by the media. Give us the FACTS. Nothing hidden. NOTHING on either side. Then we can make a true choice.

    • 6 votes
    #2.16 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

    Every American service member has to submit their financial records to prove they're not subject to "undue influences".

    Why should foot soldiers be held to a higher standard than the Commander in Chief?

    Who pays President should be your concern.

    • 25 votes
    #2.17 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:59 AM EDT

    Cirque
    If Mr Romney were nominated for a cabinet position he would have to submit his tax returns to the nomination committee. They would go over them with a fine tooth comb.

    Do you really think the men who want to govern the most powerful country in the world should be held to a lower standard than the Sec of Education?

    If the positions were reversed you would be screaming to high heaven.

    Btw from 'Why George Romney released his tax returns:

    There was, though, one exception to this pattern: "He balked when I badgered him for a copy of his latest Form 1040, the Federal Individual Income Tax Return," Harris wrote. "Release of the document, while it might serve a political purpose, would not prove very much, he argued. One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show, and what mattered in personal finance was how a man conducted himself over the long haul."

    The author was then surprised when Mr. Romney released 12 years.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/why-george-romney-released-his-tax-returns

    • 13 votes
    #2.18 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:11 AM EDT

    Yes, if Mitt's father were alive today Mitt would have been too ashamed to hide his tax returns.

    If he truly believes Dad is still watching over him, you'd think he'd release them, wouldn't you.

    • 20 votes
    #2.19 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:18 AM EDT

    cirque1946, Romney's tax records of the past 10 years are more pertinent than Obama's school records from 20+ years ago because not only are they far more recent, but because they relate much more directly to his position at Bain, his true tax rate, where he keeps his money (off shore accounts), etc.

    Furthermore, has ANY candidate released school records? seriously?

    • 20 votes
    #2.20 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:27 AM EDT

    RealAmericansFirst - FactCheck.org

    I told you before RealAmericansFirst FOLLOW THE MONEY as to who Funds FactCheck.org.

    STOP BEING LAZY.

    • 4 votes
    #2.21 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

    Mr. Binkie

    Romney! Release your tax records

    You might have your wish. There is a story that someone hacked into Mitts accountant and copied all his stuff. They supposedly sent encrypted flash drives to many locations and are demanding one million or they will send out the data in plain language form. I personally think that what is not in his taxes may be more interesting than what he has put down on paper. Like all the money stashed in various IRA's among his family member.

    • 6 votes
    #2.22 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:45 AM EDT

    Apparently you people talking about mits tax returns missed that article yesterday. It conveiently stated that on aug 28th mits tax returns were stolen and they were holding a 1 million dollar ransom for them. If the money was not paid they were going to go public with them.

    • 2 votes
    #2.23 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:36 AM EDT

    When Governor Romney was in Las Vegas with Trump & he showed his "birth certificate", I laughed so hard! It was a "Certificate of Live Birth"! Just like the very 1st document President Obama had. So what you accept as proof of birth in the state of Michigan for Romney is not accepted as proof of birth in the state of Hawaii for President Obama! I knew there were several states that issued such certificates when they received requests for birth certificates. Didn't know until that day that Michigan was one of them.

    So let me think about this. Certificate of Live Birth for Governor Romney is acceptable. Certificate of Live Birth for President Obama is not acceptable. Hmmmmmm.

    • 12 votes
    #2.24 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:07 AM EDT

    The President is the Joke , lets see his past records , his college records and the shadey restate deal he made the commies he hung out with, but no we are more worried about Romneys tax records than unemployment, high gas prices and food prices, you people need to get your heads out of your a&%es and come out and join the real world.

    • 1 vote
    #2.25 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

    Mitt accidently put his taxes in the doghouse on top of his care and the dog ate them.

    • 8 votes
    #2.26 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

    LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE TURNING UP THE HEAT ON MITTSTER! YA THINK MITT WILL DO TIME IN THE BIG HOUSE INSTEAD OF THE WHITE HOUSE?

    BAIN BEING INVESTIGATED ON TAXES!

    From Forbes.com 9/1/12

    The New York Times is reporting that Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, is among a number of firms being investigated by New York Attorney General, Eric Schneiderman, for failing to pay taxes.

    The New York AG's Taxpayer Protection Bureau has issued subpoenas to at least twelve financial firms, including Bain, looking into whether the companies converted management fees (taxed as ordinary income) paid by investors into fund investments which are taxed at a dramatically lower rate.

    The controversial tax avoidance scheme came to light last month when Bain Capital internal financial information was published online by Gawker.com , however the investigation had reportedly commenced prior to the publication and is not believed to be tied to the document dump.

    According to the Times

    The tax strategy — which is viewed as perfectly legal by some tax experts, aggressive by others and potentially illegal by some — came to light last month when hundreds of pages of Bain's internal financial documents were made available online. The financial statements show that at least $1 billion in accumulated fees that otherwise would have been taxed as ordinary income for Bain executives had been converted into investments producing capital gains, which are subject to a federal tax of 15 percent, versus a top rate of 35 percent for ordinary income. That means the Bain partners saved more than $200 million in federal income taxes and more than $20 million in Medicare taxes.

    While Governor Romney has not been active at Bain Capital for quite some time, he does continue to receive profits from the company and held investments in some of the funds that utilized the tax avoidance strategy.

    • 4 votes
    #2.27 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:54 AM EDT

    Years from now, when Latin America has colonized the US thanks to people like Obama, this will all be moot!

      #2.28 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

      @Constitution Defenders

      How about all the sealed records that OBAMA has maintained...no one knows a thing about him, yet you libs continue to back him...what is up with that?

      What sealed records? The ones retarded f*ckers claim are out there? Name one single record that's "sealed". Come on, I dare you. Just one little record.

      Show me a single court order that shows any of his personal information is sealed. Come on, one of you smart*sses should be able to do that, right? After all, you spent years puking out the same retarded f*cking rhetoric over and over, surely you can produce something to back up your claim. I really want you to because I'm going to enjoy making you look like a f*cking idiot in front of everyone here.

      I'm waiting.

      • 5 votes
      #2.29 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

      starsailing, you are a LOON.

      The part that your quote LEAVES OUT is that this New York Attorney General, Eric Schneiderman, is also an OBAMA APPOINTEE.

      Obama appointed him to his phony "Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force" whose mandate REALLY was to INVENT financial fraud and has NEVER released a REPORT.

      As the Huffington Post said about Obama's appointment of this guy: "It's a big move for PROGRESSIVES and for Schneiderman..."

      As for this PHONY investigation this guy is running NOW. It's just another left-wing SCAM.

      This has been a common strategy for DECADES.

      Your quote DISHONESTLY characterizes it as investment companies having "converted management fees (taxed as ordinary income) paid by investors into fund investments". That implies that the fund managers have actually RECEIVED these fees.

      The TRUTH is that the companies WAIVE the fees that they could have DEDUCTED from the fund. Since they never RECEIVE the fees, there is NO TAX LIABILITY.

      Instead, they leave the money in the fund where it is AT RISK of being lost. Thus, any profits that MIGHT be realized are taxed as CAPITAL GAINS.

      This "investigation" is just another plot by Democrats to deceive the public. Dems are always starting these phony "investigations" to give their media wh0res something to splash around.

      Of course, there is NO media coverage when these "investigations", like Obama's phony Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, are quietly abandoned. After all, they don't want the public to find out that they have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a POLITICAL RUSE.

      • 1 vote
      #2.30 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

      CHRIS from YUCAIPA

      If any body is a "retarded f*cker", it's YOU.

      Records CAN be sealed by a court order. But, they can ALSO be sealed by a STATUTE.

      You won't find court orders sealing a person's medical records or a minor's criminal record or someone's EDUCATIONAL records. But they are still sealed by the LAW.

      The only difference is that you can't violated a judge's order that a given record not be released, but the statutes allow the release of medical and educational records with the PERMISSION of the individual in question.

        #2.31 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

        foolishness abounds

        CHRIS from YUCAIPA

        If any body is a "retarded f*cker", it's YOU.

        Records CAN be sealed by a court order. But, they can ALSO be sealed by a STATUTE.

        You won't find court orders sealing a person's medical records or a minor's criminal record or someone's EDUCATIONAL records. But they are still sealed by the LAW.

        The only difference is that you can't violated a judge's order that a given record not be released, but the statutes allow the release of medical and educational records with the PERMISSION of the individual in question.

        Um what's your point beyond stating the obvious? Are you saying that since his medical, educational and any juvenile records are sealed by law, those are what he needs to release? If you'd actually read the prior comments, I was replying to the asshats making claims that Obama is having his records sealed to hide something. So again, show me a single record HE has had sealed (since you clearly missed that f*cking part), otherwise stfu please.

        We know what we need to know about Obama. Just because people like you want to know how long his d*ck is just to indulge your voyeuristic fantasies, doesn't mean he needs to produce them. I'd suggest moving on, but for some of you, the needle is stuck too deep into the groove and we'll continue being forced to listen to this record for another 4 years

        • 3 votes
        #2.32 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

        The Left has invented this meme that "presidential candidates have ALWAYS released their tax returns for X number of years".

        Of course, this is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. They are basing that on the number if tax returns that are released by PRESIDENTS.

        If you look at the years for which tax returns are released by CANDIDATES for the Presidency, you find that they almost always START with the year that they BEGIN their campaigns or are elected. The winners just continue to do so while in office.

        Jimmy Carter's tax releases started in 1977.

        Reagan's BEGAN in 1981

        Bush Senior's began in 1989

        Clinton's began in 1992

        Bushs Junior's began in 2000

        Of course, I don't expect the Dems on this forum to stop CLAIMING their meme just because it is demonstrably NOT TRUE.

          #2.33 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

          Obama was asked for his birth certifiicate and he produced it. Where are the tax returns, Mr. No-One-Ever-Asked-Me-For-My-Birth-Certificate.

          • 1 vote
          #2.34 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

          No, CHRIS from YUCAIPA, I'm not saying anything of the sort.

          YOU said, "What sealed records? The ones retarded f*ckers claim are out there? Name one single record that's "sealed". Come on, I dare you. Just one little record.Show me a single court order that shows any of his personal information is sealed."

          Your obvious implication is that a court order is REQUIRED for records to be sealed. Just like the tax records that Leftists are demanding that Romney release, Obama's educational records would require his permission to be released.

          BTW, the tenor of your comments expose you as a filthy piece of trash.

            #2.35 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

            ted patrick

            Apparently you people talking about mits tax returns missed that article yesterday. It conveiently stated that on aug 28th mits tax returns were stolen and they were holding a 1 million dollar ransom for them. If the money was not paid they were going to go public with them.

            If there's nothing in them, all Romney has to do is say, "fine, post them" to the blackmailer.

            Problem solved.

            • 1 vote
            #2.36 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:33 PM EDT

            Constitution Defenders

            How about all the sealed records that OBAMA has maintained...no one knows a thing about him

            Here, let me repeat this again, for those that are VERY slow:

            So, from all the agencies involved in investigating presidential candidates, including the Secret Service, to people like you, they are all involved in a conspiracy....LOL!!

            OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

            • 2 votes
            #2.37 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

            @foolishness abounds

            BTW, the tenor of your comments expose you as a filthy piece of trash.

            Then it's a good thing that my self esteem doesn't require your approval of my comments. Otherwise I'd just have to curl in the corner and cry. I put 13 years into the service. Has your mom even let you out of your room today?

            • 1 vote
            #2.38 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

            Foolish.....your foolishment spin...abounds......maybe you want Issa to investigate Bain huh? Romney show us your taxes...prove you are not a lying tax dodging cheat! We understand the money gets shoved in the capital gains territory.....but should they be? If Bain is not guilty, the truth will come out Where there is fire.....there is smokescreen. So President Obama should defer his appoinments to repubs? Get a clue! As if any repub would say...go ahead Democratic party, choose appointee for us.....The loon is our state bird, you are a lot like Michelle Bachman, our state loon!

              #2.39 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:55 AM EDT
              Reply

              One of the problems with the GOP is their lack of a sense of humor.

              You go President Obama, and keep smiling!

              Fired up ready to go!

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 58 votes
              Reply#3 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

              Exactly, fired up, ready to go!!

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 37 votes
              #3.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

              Yup keep smiling all the way to your 35 million dollar home in hawaii after January 23. We can't wait to see you go back to your so called home.

              • 3 votes
              #3.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:45 AM EDT

              answer me this, which candidate would you rather sit and drink a beer with? oops! sorry , that would be a sin

              • 8 votes
              #3.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

              Its a shame those on the left have to share a brain ,among so many, If I ever voted of a dumbocrat my dad would beat the stupid out of me......well I would have to be stupid to vote for one in the first place, I am sure glad I was not born into a family full of Dumba%% democrats , I would have a one track mind like so many millions of you, and that reminds me of what the shovel ready jobs Mr. O was talking about, its to scoop up the shI% he is always feeding you guys. Romney/Ryan 2012......help save America from the stupid ones.

                #3.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:51 AM EDT

                @wayne-3043511

                WOW! So your father would've "beat the stupid" out of you if you ever voted Democrat. Nice to know that you can't make your own, informed decision. Explains a lot about you.

                • 2 votes
                #3.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

                this what gets me, romney can say something about obama birth certificate and everyone gets mad. but when obama says something about it, its joking. you people make me sick.thats why im not voting for obama a vote for obama is a vote for hate.

                  #3.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                  Hey Wayne. When calling others stupid, it would be in your best interest to not use a comma for a period.

                  I guess your side doesn't have a brain to share at all?

                  I was not born into a family full of Dumba%% democrats

                  But you were born into some type of one as far as I can tell by looking at your inability to even form a proper sentence.

                  If I ever voted of a dumbocrat my dad would beat the stupid out of me

                  I don't think you could possibly live long enough to beat it all out of you. How about you work on 5th grade sentence structure before calling others stupid, OK?

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
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                  Comment author avatarScreamin' Eagle 70Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Obama didn't make a joke, he is a joke!

                  I would vote for Romney to give up his tax returns, If OBAMA would do the same with his college transcripts, and medical records. What a frikkin joke!

                  • 17 votes
                  #4 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

                  No Mitt for Brains is THE joke. He needs to take his magic underwear and go home. The job of POTUS is too far above him.

                  • 50 votes
                  #4.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

                  Be real!! no president presented school records. This is an excuse for the 1040. You know Romney needs to produce the tax returns. Americans do not like super rich people cheating and he will loose the election because of not being honesty.

                  • 39 votes
                  #4.2 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

                  Romney is a complete idiot with no real position on anything. President Obama's college transcript and medical records are irrelevant,and even if he did release them, then you birther morons would demand to see his kindergarten report card or the first coloring page that his mother stuck to the refridgerator with a magnet or how about his marriage license or his dog's shot record. You birther imbeciles are a joke. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 FIRED UP AND READY TO GO!!!!!

                  • 41 votes
                  #4.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:00 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarOblame-OExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Gosh you liberal limpwrist twinkies don't really want to talk about Obumbles record, huh? Why is that??? Oh, because he stinks as president.....

                  • 13 votes
                  #4.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

                  You @!$%#s cried about his birth certificate and he showed you that and you are still not happy with your racist asses.. His college transcripts?? For what?? What do they have to do with anything??? Why don't you ask him to show you his dick @!$%#, that is probably what you want to see anyways, just so he can show you how "inadequate" you really are with your dumb ass...

                  • 28 votes
                  #4.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:05 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarCrystal-569996Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Take your meds- what does he have to hide? Anti American thesis perhaps?

                  • 6 votes
                  #4.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:18 AM EDT

                  Bush Romney and Ryan walk into a bar...and the bartender says, "What is this, a joke?"

                  • 20 votes
                  #4.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:21 AM EDT

                  Romney now shops at COSTCO...uh huh sure!

                  Ann says....Romney did the ironing the other day...uh huh!

                  Ann says ...Romney did the laundry the other day...uh huh!

                  Romney says....COSTCO shirts come 3 in a pack!!!! revalation!...uh huh!

                  Ann says Romney wears the COStCO shirts...everyday...NOW! (meaning he never wore them before but to look like a common man he is now)...uh huh!

                  Romney the strawman...Ann shaping him to be who ever is is supposed to be for whoever , whenever, for whatever the reason.

                  • 22 votes
                  #4.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:26 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarCrystal-569996Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  A puppet, a black guy, an illegal alien, a Muslim and a
                  Communist walk into a bar.

                  Bartender
                  asks ....

                  "What'll it be, Mr. President?"

                  • 7 votes
                  #4.10 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

                  The founder and former CEO of Costco was a speaker at the DNC convention in support of Obama/Biden.

                  That whole Costco shirt BS is insulting and condesending to individuals that shop at Costco for clothing because it is what they can afford. If anyone believes Willard purchased or wears Costco shirts, you are nuts.

                  My old boss, worth $60 million, used to shop at Costco for bulk items like water, soda, etc. but he never bought an article of clothing at Costco and nor would he. He shopped for clothing, shoes and accessories at Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Avenue, Nordstrom, Brooks Bothers, etc. Those are the stores at which wealthy people shop for apparel. Not Costco.

                  • 25 votes
                  #4.11 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:41 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarwyodrifterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  you are a phucking loser!

                    #4.12 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

                    Absolutely. Give up the records.

                      #4.13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                      babina - Those are the stores at which wealthy people shop for apparel. Not Costco.

                      Really. A little secret, the real rich (not the new rich) are rich because they are scrooges.

                      • 4 votes
                      #4.14 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:59 AM EDT

                      Romney is a successfull businessman, which means he made great profits for his investors, and doesn't know how create a single job. He just made great profits! That's ALL!!

                      Obama was the editor of the "Harvard Law Review", which means he likely had a 3.5+ GPA (google it Tea Partiers), and likely has 10 IQ points on anybody here, (and 25 points on right wingers)!

                      Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison would weep, if they could see the average comment here, and thought this was what the common man was like today! What a pathetic bunch, we Americans have become (judging by the comments here)!!

                      • 14 votes
                      #4.15 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

                      If the party is anything like Star Sailing I am casting a vote for who ever she is not. She scares me almost as much as Obama and his agenda.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.16 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:05 AM EDT

                      @Crystal:

                      what does he have to hide? Anti American thesis perhaps?

                      And who decides the criteria of what an "Anti American thesis" is - some secret committee of right wing bigots? I'm fairly certain that the architects of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States would be appalled by your statement.

                      Perhaps you should commission the "Loon of the North" - Michelle Bachmann; currently a finalist for Grand Imperial Poobah of the Flat Earth Society - to do a penetrating expose into this matter.

                      If you want to engage in debate and express displeasure with Obama's policies or record; nobody will have a problem with that - in fact, it's encouraged in the US. But people (like you) coming up with these ridiculous, childish litmus tests to diminish another Americans' rights are disgusting.

                      I'll let you go now; we're probably keeping you from your duties as chairman of your local moon hoax conspiracy chapter.

                      • 11 votes
                      #4.17 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:07 AM EDT

                      This Costco thing is about the stupidest arguement ever.

                      Think about it. If you were, as is Romney, on the road and in a different town every day, wouldn't it make sense to buy a whole box full of shirts in order to have a clean one every day?

                      I'm guessing one of his junior staffers makes regular runs to Costco and he's leaving a trail of white shirts at Salvation Army stores across the country.

                        #4.18 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
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                        Soetoro/Biden 2012

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#5 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

                        It's ridiculous that the Republicans are still talking about this. I'm glad the President isn't letting it affect him...like it does the American people who voted him in. It's not up to the GOP to decide which Presidnet they have to work with, we voted him in once, we'll vote him in again!

                        • 39 votes
                        Reply#6 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

                        I agree, it is not up to the GOP on who becomes president. I also say vote democratic for the Senators and Congressmen and women as well.

                        • 36 votes
                        #6.1 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

                        @ BoJap, it is not the Republicans still talking about this, it is the news media. I am no Obama fan, but I got tired of the "birther" BS long ago.

                        • 7 votes
                        #6.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:19 AM EDT

                        Actually, Romney was talking about it just last week.

                        And last time I checked, he was still a Republican.

                        Unless he's flopped again. Or would that be a flip?

                        • 19 votes
                        #6.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:03 AM EDT

                        Suppose John McCain had won the Presidency in 2008. Things would be as bad or worse because he would never have put any restrictions on Wall Street, he would have cut taxes on the rich even more, we would still be in Iraq spending $2 Billion a day there as well, etc etc. We would be in a depression with unemployment over 12%. Suppose Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama were running again against McCain or Romney or any Republican .... Either one would be 15 to 20 points ahead.

                        I say this as if Romney/Ryan are elected their Trickle Down, Voodoo Economics is going to sink this country into a Depression, and explode tyhe deficit even morewhen they give Millionaires ansd Billionaires a tax break from 35% to 25% and reduce Capital Gains to 0% ....

                        Thus in 2016 Either Obama will run again, or Hillary Clinton will, and they will be 15 or 20 points ahead, and America will have finally had enough of Republican Voodoo, Trickle Down Economics once and for all.

                        As Bill Clinton said ....."It's Arithmetic" .... The Romney / Ryan plan doesn't add up to anyting but the rich getting richer, probably the middle class with higher taxes, and the deficit even more through the roof.

                        • 10 votes
                        #6.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:26 AM EDT
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                        Conspiracy theorists hate being laughed at.

                        • 23 votes
                        Reply#8 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

                        Yes, it's very mean of Obama to make a joke about them

                        • 10 votes
                        #8.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT
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                        Screaming Eagle- OK I'll bite what will his college transcripts tell you? The Glenn Beck and faux noise consperisy theory's?

                        I myself am worried more about cayman accounts, and Switzerland accounts, hiding money off shore to avoid tax's! Was any of this money taxed in the first place?.

                        Get over it, president Obama already has the job, Romney is only interviewing for it, so far he's not really answering any real questions, or told us his plans!

                        • 40 votes
                        Reply#9 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:52 PM EDT

                        Glenn Beck is an idiot moron.

                        • 28 votes
                        #9.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:06 AM EDT

                        I am more worried about what Obama is doing with my money than what Romney does with his!

                        Romney/Ryan the end of an error

                        • 6 votes
                        #9.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:25 AM EDT

                        Crystal - That was an original thought - never heard that before. You guys need to go back to the drawing board and come up something new. Yawn....

                        • 15 votes
                        #9.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:48 AM EDT

                        Yeah, especially since "end of an error" was the running joke in 2008.

                        Since that's how Bush said "era".

                        Get some new material, boys!

                        • 15 votes
                        #9.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:05 AM EDT

                        Romney/Ryan the end of an error

                        Once Obama is re-elected we can refer to the final defeat of the Republican party that way, yeah. Good point.

                        • 8 votes
                        #9.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:20 AM EDT
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                        The 'birthers' can't stand or swallow the FACT that Pres. Obama IS a natural born U.S. citizen so they come up with all kinds of other nonsense about college transcripts, medical records, blah blah blah, ad infinitum (ad nauseum). Face it, weirdos, Pres. Obama is completely legitimate. The only people who can't make jokes about the birther crap is the birthers themselves. And they're the ones who are the true jokes. What's next coming down the pike from that corner of that galaxy far, far away?

                        • 28 votes
                        Reply#10 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                        Arizona Sheriff Joe Arapaio has an on going investigation into Obama's birth.

                        He claims it's fake, but gives NOTHING more than his word.

                        My question: WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM???? This investigation isn't free. Though we are never told, my guess is from the Az. tax payer.

                        Shameful,

                        Da Pup

                        • 8 votes
                        #10.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:45 AM EDT
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                        Romney's co outsourced our jobs AND had people train the Chinese that were taking their jobs. How low can you be. Romney bankrupted co's then took the money. He is a scumbag. He wanted GM to fail. All repubs voted NO to end tax breaks for companies that outsource OUR jobs. Obama tried. Their NO 1 priority (not helping the people) to make sure Obama had 1 term THAT is IT. LOSERS = GOP

                        • 33 votes
                        Reply#11 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                        Not just losers. Traitors. The GOP's admitted obstructionism against Obama is treasonous.

                        • 11 votes
                        #11.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:28 AM EDT
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                        Comment author avatarNoladude-2763286Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Good joke for a Kenyan

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#12 - Sat Sep 8, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                        Where is the Real birth certificate, because you say that he was born in Hawaii. But the only facts that was a COPY, not REAL. I want to see the real live certificate with the seals. Other than that HE IS a Illegitimate president. On by the way when he went to the Philippines for over 8 YEARS, that also made him illegitimate to be the president. So if I am wrong then prove it by showing the REAL, NOT COPY..........................

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

                        I laugh at your feeble arguments.

                        • 24 votes
                        #13.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

                        ^^What he said.

                        • 8 votes
                        #13.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                        You are a @!$%#ing IDIOT. He didn't go to the Philippines, he went to Indonesia as a child with his Mother & her second Husband. You're so stupid, you cannot even tell the story correctly... It is a shame that America has @!$%#s like you walking around and spouting BS...

                        • 23 votes
                        #13.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                        That would mean that ANY bills he signed would be Null and Void..correct?

                        • 5 votes
                        #13.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                        Guess what twit??? My husband and I lived in Asia for 9 years and our daughter went to international schools from 4th grade thru 12th grades. GUESS WHAT???? We are ALL still Americans!!! You people really are dumb!

                        • 32 votes
                        #13.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:09 AM EDT

                        My grandson's father is Australian and my daughter is American. My grandson was born in the U.S.A. so guess where he enjoys his citizenship??? YEP... the good old U.S.A. President Obama's mother was born in Kansas and was American. President Obama has shown you his long for birth certificate from Hawaii and the Hawaiian government has authenticated it. If he has an American mother and is born in the U.S.A., he is American. What is so difficult to understand about that???

                        As for college transcripts? Why do you want to see them? Is it to see if he got student loans? Is it to see his grades? Why exactly do you want to see them? It is very obvious the President is a brilliant man and was President of the Harvard Law Review. He certainly didn't get into that position by being dumb!!!

                        • 28 votes
                        #13.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:18 AM EDT

                        what is a "real live certificate"? Birth certificates apparently like birther "facts" now have lives of their own?

                        • 10 votes
                        #13.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

                        I would call these birthers retarded, but I don't want to insult the mentally challenged.

                        • 14 votes
                        #13.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:32 AM EDT
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                        Let's see--President Obama's father was born in Kenya and the repukes say he was born there too! Okay, so Pitt Romney's father was born in Mexico so the Mittster was born in Mexico also. Fabrications can go both ways!

                        • 30 votes
                        Reply#14 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

                        Why all the 8th grade name calling? Let's debate the issues concerning this country as adults.

                        • 12 votes
                        #14.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

                        The Tea Party is running rabid, and NOW you want to talk like adults?

                        Fine, let's ALL be adults for a while.

                        • 20 votes
                        #14.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:07 AM EDT
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                        To kill democracy and build a dictatorship bought, paid for and governed by the richest 1%, vote Romney...........

                        • 31 votes
                        Reply#15 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

                        What are the conspiricist weirdos gonna think when Romney starts taking orders from his church's Elders out in Salt Lake City? Have you lunatics thought about that one? Are you ready for the effective capital of the US to be transferred to Salt Lake City, Utah? Are you SURE you want Romney as President? Think about that awhile.

                        • 27 votes
                        Reply#16 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

                        Did Kennedy ever take orders from the Vatican? Did Johnson ever take orders from the Southern Baptists? Not that you would ever admit to it. Is Obama taking orders from the Mullahs in the mid-east? NAH, never happen in a million years, so how can you ask that about Romney? Easy, your one of them liberal wing nuts.....Next you will make a few threats.

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:54 AM EDT

                        Fine, kip.

                        Just go read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer before the election and see if you still feel that way.

                        • 12 votes
                        #16.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:08 AM EDT

                        Fine, RealAmericansFirst

                        Just go read "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" by President Barack Obama before the election and see if you still feel that way.

                        • 2 votes
                        #16.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:16 AM EDT
                        NiggsDeleted

                        Niggs, if you weren't being sarcastic, then, I think you just became the poster child as to why we should NOT elect Mittens.

                        Love n Blessings,

                        Da Pup

                        >:o):

                        • 18 votes
                        #16.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:55 AM EDT

                        Niggs: How many bigoted lies can you put in one sentence?

                        Well it's no surprise. According to your religion, Obama carries the "mark of Cain".

                        "Joseph Smith lead the way, and the council of the Elders will give Mitt Romney the guidance he needs to conduct his Presidency according to the Prophet. Amen."...

                        And that ladies and gents, pretty much sums it up. Mittens needs guidance from his elders following Joseph Smith's way, because he is completely lost on his own.

                        Yeah, that sounds like a real good plan for our country.

                        God, for the million and 21st time, please, please answer my prayer and save us ALL from your "followers"

                        • 10 votes
                        #16.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:19 AM EDT

                        Wow Niggs,

                        I'm voting Romney, but there is still no reason to be so hateful of what Race or religion Obama is. He is the President at the moment, and just being hateful out of spite does not prove anything. It just makes you seem more of a hypocrite.

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 4:16 AM EDT

                        Is Joseph Smith his real name? Sounds more like the name you give to a hotel clerk when you don’t want to check in under your real name.

                        • 6 votes
                        #16.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:19 AM EDT

                        As a Mormon and Salt Lake City resident,

                        Niggs, you are neither of those things but a provocateur trying to discredit the Romney candidacy with inflammatory statements.

                          #16.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 11:59 AM EDT
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                          Repubs know they made a huge mistake in Romney's nomination and not Ron Paul. This will be OH so evident when the debates come along and Obama makes Romney look dumber than a wet sock. I spent some time on YouTube watching clips of Paul during the primary debates and he made the other candidates AND the moderators look stupid on all the issues. Paul would have been pretty formidable at verbal sparring with the president in the debates. He probably couldn't have won the election anyway but I wouldn't have bet against him. Romney is a dangerous know nothing and is going down. Obama/Biden 2012

                          • 22 votes
                          Reply#17 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

                          Some people just cannot stand that a black man is our President --- which makes me want to vote for him even more! :)

                          It goes against the soft and sometimes direct racism that many people in this country still pass on to their children, so to then have a black man running around and living, loving, eating as THE PRESIDENT in the WHITE house that goes against everything they are teaching their children.

                          • 29 votes
                          Reply#18 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

                          Right On George... We all know what this about, the hatred, the racial jokes, the disrespect... But like Deval Patrick said: "We are not going to stand by and let you bully him out of office...."

                          • 22 votes
                          #18.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

                          The President is not a black man. It is extremely racist to ignore his white heritage as well as his black heritage.

                          • 11 votes
                          #18.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:25 AM EDT

                          Eddie in Seattle

                          the ignorance of you Liberals is golden. You make America's decision easy in Nov. 2012.

                          Keep up the hate, race, war on women and class warfare.

                          Obama has already been rejected by America. Just waiting ofr Nov. 2012.

                          • 1 vote
                          #18.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:07 AM EDT

                          See the not so famous quotes from President Obama below. The media must have missed these inspirational quotes that were taken right from BOB's books. Such an endearing eloquence can not be found in any of our Founding Fathers writings or quotes. Now we know why Barak Obama ( AKA BARRY SOETORRO) is so loved and respected by so many.

                          From Dreams From My Father:

                          "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13,
                          when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to
                          whites."

                          "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and
                          animosity against my mother's race.."

                          "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of
                          herself, maybe and white."

                          "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
                          to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

                          "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my
                          own. t was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa,
                          that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself:
                          the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

                          And FINALLY .......... From Audacity of Hope:

                          "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an
                          ugly direction."

                          • 2 votes
                          #18.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:16 AM EDT

                          Pathfinder: These "quotes" are either out of context, altered, or not even in those books. For an example, here's the fix for your last quote in Audacity of Hope, corrected and given in context:

                          "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

                          • 10 votes
                          #18.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:05 AM EDT
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                          Show your college transcripts and show your taxes, why not? Either both are hiding something or both are hiding nothing. The Righties or the Lefties will not decide the election hopefully.... the middle will. Obama hasn't performed so far and who knows if Romney could. The only thing true at this point is the country is not where it should be.

                          • 6 votes
                          #19 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

                          Tell me why you need to see his college transcripts???!!!! Have WE EVER asked to see a President's college transcripts???? If I wanted to see a President's college transcripts, I would REALLY have loved to see George W. Bush's transcripts! Now THAT would be a joke!!! I'm sure he probably didn't do very well in the English area at all!!! lol!!!

                          • 23 votes
                          #19.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

                          Come to think of it, George probably didn't do too well in A R I T H M E T I C either!!! lol!

                          • 18 votes
                          #19.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:27 AM EDT

                          I'm sure Bush would be happy to show his college transcripts, along with all the other Presidents. I don't think anyone who graduated from college has ever tried to hide there college transcripts, not sure why you would. You should be proud that you graduated college, not hide the history of it. Most jobs even REQUIRE you to supply them....

                          • 3 votes
                          #19.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:31 AM EDT

                          Show us a birth certificate for a corporation...Romney says corporations are people too!

                          • 22 votes
                          #19.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:36 AM EDT

                          Really, that is your argument??? To what? In order to be a corporation, you have to go through the government legal system to be incorporated... I guess that is their "birth certificate".

                          • 3 votes
                          #19.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:45 AM EDT

                          If Bush would be so happy to show us his college transcripts, why didn't the GOP ask for the when he was running?

                          Since they seem to feel they're very, very important - can't believe they'd let that slide!

                          I mean, Bush could have beat Gore just by showing his college grades, right?

                          • 15 votes
                          #19.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                          descrs - the reason some of us wanted to see his college transcripts is that he had no meaningful job history that would qualify him for any executive position, let alone the Presidency. If he had a strong executive and economic education, that would have provided some helpful insight.

                          This isn't difficult to understand. If an NFL team hires a new coach, and the coach has ZERO coaching experience, well first off they would never hire a coach with ZERO coaching experience, but Democrats didn't seem to care. And now we have $6 trillion in new debt, a failed stimulus, an American car company owned by the Italians, 50% more Americans now on food stamps, none of the results Obama offered when he had no executive experience and told us this would be fixed in 3 years or it would be a 1-term proposition.

                          You see, we that did not vote for him got what we thought we were getting - a narcissistic blow hard with zero idea how to fix the economy, and a spendthrift that was bent on leading us into a socialized medical system (he said he wanted single payer, but they had to sneak it in with Obamacare, and that it could take 10-20 years to screw the system up bad enough that government would be "forced" to take over the entire industry).

                          • 3 votes
                          #19.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:18 AM EDT

                          There is no specific background required to be President of the United States.

                          Lincoln was a blacksmith and postmaster before becoming a U.S. Congressman.

                          Lyndon Johnson was a school teacher for one year before he got into politics.

                          Nixon was a lawyer and the owner of a failed business before joining the Navy.

                          Bush "worked" in his family's oil business and co-owned a baseball team.

                          I think being a community organizer at a nonprofit and a Constitutional law professor at Columbia University fits the bill.

                          • 16 votes
                          #19.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:25 AM EDT

                          Mister Wonderful: I don't buy your argument. Historically there's been no interest in investigating a presidential candidate's school records. This is really about trying to suggest that there is some kind of equivalency between withholding tax records and witholding school records. The problem with that argument is that tax records can give an indication of how far a candidate will go to minimize their taxes and provides insight into how he or she might govern with respect to the economy and taxes. School records don't provide that kind of insight.

                          • 11 votes
                          #19.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:19 AM EDT
                          K.HarsonDeleted

                          He was also a crook lets not omit that.

                          • 7 votes
                          #19.11 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

                          Harson, not really sure what your point was, but it seems like you might have left off a couple of items as well...particularly at the end. Big Nixon fan, huh?

                          • 4 votes
                          #19.12 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:50 AM EDT

                          Nixon was also a McCarthyite. When Joe McCarthy finally went down in flames he almost took Nixon down with him. Only Nixon's infamous "Checkers" speech saved his career.

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                          Well, Obama was also a Senator before becoming President.

                          What you idjits are harping on is experience before getting into politics.

                          As usual, when called on your BS, you change the subject.

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                          #19.14 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                          Come to think of it, I have never seen Romney's birth certificate. Sometimes he claims to be from Michigan. Sometimes he claims to be from Massachusetts. I think he has even claimed to be from Utah? Anyway, we really don't know where he is from at all! He might be from Mexico? I know he has relatives there! That's it, I demand to see Romney's birth certificate!

                            #19.15 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:16 PM EDT
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                            I'd like to see Obama's transcripts from preschool, and how about kindergarden. When was he potty trained? Did he breast feed or use a bottle?

                            • 17 votes
                            Reply#20 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                            he used his right thumb because they didn't have bottles in Kenya that is why he is left-handed.

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                            #20.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:07 AM EDT

                            Your despicable comments are a glaring evidence of your own stupidity, shallowness of character and bigotry.

                            • 1 vote
                            #20.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 9:02 AM EDT
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                            Both Obama and Romney are a joke, but the real joke is on us. We have to elect one of these clowns as our president this November. Good luck my friends in trying to pick the lessor of two evils. Obama will go down as the worst president in our history, but never fear, for if Romney wins, Obama will probably only hold the title until 2016. My biggest fear is that our 45th president may be our last one!

                              Reply#21 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:09 AM EDT

                              You seriously think Obama is worse than Bush? What are you like 5 years old and can't remember how our country got into this mess.

                              • 16 votes
                              #21.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:25 AM EDT

                              Anybody that feels that Obama could come remotely close to being the worst president in our nation's history obviously knows nothing about said history. Enough with the hyperbole.

                              • 6 votes
                              #21.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:53 AM EDT
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                              Read the Godmakers. It's an expose on the Mormon Church. It's written by a former Mormon priest. It is extremely interesting & truly necessary reading being Mitt the cultist wants to be president of the United States. I guarantee it is hard to put down, a real page-turner. It can be purchased over the internet or at a Christian book store where it can be found in the cult section! Enough said!

                              • 14 votes
                              Reply#22 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:09 AM EDT

                              Read The Amateur-(Clinton's name for Obama)- it is eye opening and truely necessary unless you are a mindless obamazombie. Also read Hollywood Hypocrites- another good read.

                              • 4 votes
                              #22.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:39 AM EDT
                              NiggsDeleted

                              Once again, The Poster Child Strikes

                              >:o): Hehehehehehe

                              • 10 votes
                              #22.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:06 AM EDT

                              Because he is a mormon he makes a bad president? An islam guy could not do it.

                                #22.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

                                Henry, any possibility you could rephrase that post? It makes little sense.

                                Oh, and if you are trying to say that Obama is a Muslim, well then, don't bother. Obama is not a Muslim and anybody that has any sense can see that; however, I suppose those that try to find anything they can in feeble attempts to denigrate Obama will use any grade-school tactic they can come up with.

                                • 5 votes
                                #22.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 7:57 AM EDT
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                                Does God have a birth certificate? Has he ever had to produce it to prove he exists?

                                • 9 votes
                                Reply#23 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:10 AM EDT

                                Unlike many peoples opinions...Obama is not God!

                                Obama thinks he is...God knows he is.

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                                #23.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:18 AM EDT
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                                Well, when he asked the kid if he had a birth certificate, I am sure the answer could have been "Yes" and the kid's parents could have produced a legitimate one if asked to. Guess Obama was envious of that.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#24 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:10 AM EDT

                                O ya most people bring their kids birth certs out to a restaurant!

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                                #24.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

                                Yeah, 'cause Obama can't, huh? Except that he has. Don't you birthers feel the least bit silly for going on and on about something that has been so obviously settled for so long? Nah, probably not - never let facts get in the way of hysteria.

                                • 7 votes
                                #24.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                Let's see. Romney cracks a joke about his birth certificate and he's labeled a "conspiracy theorist." When Obama jokes about it, why isn't he considered the same?

                                  #24.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:34 AM EDT
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                                  The Republicans are so determined that Obama is the Manchurian Candidate that nothing will ever satisfy them in terms of birth certificates--not the fact that his certificate number corresponds to other children born the same day (and those mothers as witnesses), not the fact that the nurse who was there (a Republican and anti-Obama person herself!) states that his birth was in Hawaii, not the doctor's wife... madness.

                                  They still have the 1950s hangover and want Communism to be the evil of this country, so they'll latch on to any rumor about Obama (saying he's a Socialist, Marxist, etc.) to maintain an atmosphere of fear. Meanwhile, here's a wake-up call: AMERICA HAS BEEN SOCIALIST FOR OVER 100 YEARS. Look at Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, VA services... these are SOCIALIST programs that are active in our society and have been for some time. They didn't just pop up as part of Obama's conspiracy to corrupt America.

                                  • 27 votes
                                  Reply#25 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

                                  Standupjokeoff: Well stated;kudos. The only problem anti-Obamas have has nothing whatsoever to do with where he was born. Their one and only problem is the undeniable fact Mr. Obama was born Black. Had he been born Caucasian there would not be an election this year for the voters of this nation would overwhelmingly declare him our next President by acclaimation. Those who dispute his birthplace are saying in essence that his parents knew at his conception that he would one day become a US President so they feigned his Hawii birthplace so as to offset his future doubters. Wow, I just saw a news bulletin the Brooklyn Bridge is up for sale also.

                                  • 20 votes
                                  #25.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                                  Shhhh... don't insinuate racism to the Republicans! Why, they love everybody! (Except for the Muslims and other "towel-heads," even if those in headwear aren't Muslims.)

                                  Oh, okay, sure--during the 1940s, the Republicans arranged for legal Japanese Americans citizens to have their land, houses and businesses taken away from then, and they forced J-A's to live in sub-standard housing and work slavery jobs building everything from their own living quarters to dams, but that was to protect America! Why, those "Japs" might have been spies! But that wasn't racist. Heavens, no. Even though German and Italian citizens weren't rounded up in the same way.

                                  Such racist thoughts CERTAINLY don't exist today, either! Shhhh...

                                  • 14 votes
                                  #25.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

                                  Standup
                                  Sorry, can't let it go. The Japanese were put into internment camps because the FBI was afraid of the yakuza. They thought there were spies among the Japanese.

                                  Was it wrong? Hindsight is 20/20. Many of those documents are still classified. But before we completely condemn them, we must look at the world through their eyes and the atmosphere of the day.

                                  Oh, and President Roosevelt was a Democrat.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.3 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 1:33 AM EDT

                                  Obama a Communist?

                                  Obamas political mentor was Frank Marshall Davis. Do you know who he is?

                                  Suggest you find out about Davis's background and what he stands for before you

                                  disparage Republican's. The truth is non-partisan.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #25.4 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 2:48 AM EDT

                                  born confuse! go see Dr. Phill.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.5 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 3:49 AM EDT

                                  dsbL It's not about hindsight, it's about maintaining American values. The government knew what they were doing was moraly wrong, but chose to do it anyway out of fear. It was a simple case of cowardice.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.6 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:27 AM EDT

                                  StandUpJokeOff

                                  You are right America has been socialist for years. To your list of social program we need to add public education, emergency management services (police, fire and medical), the public library, and our transportation infrastructure. These are all services created for our common good.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #25.7 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

                                  News flash for Hazen 44: Obama's mother was Caucasian. Don't you think we need to eliminate racial identification as Black by one drop of Black blood? To be accurate, he is half Black and half Caucasian. But if you're politically correct, he's Black. Make sense? I didn't think so.

                                    #25.8 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                                    Tom, why do you use "caucasian"? Is white a dirty word? You use black in racial context readily enough.

                                    In my experience only blacks refer to white people as "caucasian" out of some inexplicable desire to tiptoe around the term white. But unlike once polite terms like "negro" or "colored" which now are regarded as insulting, it is the correct term to call a white person white.

                                    People who say "caucasian" generally don't even know what it refers to: a mountain range east of Turkey.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #25.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                                    Obama is not the first black president.

                                    He is the first bi racial president.

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                                    #25.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                                    All you knuckle heads got to admit this President does have a sense of humor and he can take it on the chin when someone gives him a bad time, I guess you might say this President is down to earth just a regular guy.

                                      #25.11 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:16 AM EDT
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                                      I have a 48 star flag and Hawaii aint 1one of them.

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                                      Reply#26 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

                                      joey - Last Looked We Have 50 States in the United States - Did they just let you out of the Insane Asylum?

                                      • 7 votes
                                      #26.1 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

                                      Joey lives in the 1940s--the prime period of denial when Communists were under every bed, and the war in Europe had nothing to do with us.

                                      And I guess Alaska doesn't count as a state in his book, either. Too many of them "damned native North American Indian-folk" occuping the place, probably.

                                      • 8 votes
                                      #26.2 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 12:31 AM EDT
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