CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- After nearly four years in office, President Barack Obama asked America on Thursday night to give him a second term, in a speech reaching back to the touchstone of "hope and change" that propelled him to the White House in 2008, while also acknowledging the unfinished work in achieving that promise.
President Barack Obama accepts the Democratic presidential nomination and addresses the DNC, Thursday, in Charlotte, N.C.
In his formal acceptance speech, the president embraced the contrast that his party had tried to draw between himself and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney throughout this week’s Democratic National Convention. Obama said the GOP only offered voters the “same prescription they’ve had for the last thirty years,” and laid out policies that he said would move America in the direction of Obama’s campaign theme: “Forward.”
"I recognize that times have changed since I first spoke to this convention. The times have changed ... I’m no longer just a candidate. I’m the president," Obama told the crowd at Charlotte's Time Warner Cable Arena, where his speech was moved after weather concerns disrupted plans for an outdoor event.
Slideshow: Democratic National Convention
“But as I stand here tonight, I have never been more hopeful about America,” the president added, in a line emblematic of his efforts to once again stir enthusiasm in his candidacy.
The speech capped a convention designed to reignite enthusiasm with Obama’s winning voting coalition from 2008, including dozens of speeches paying testament to the president’s character and condemning Romney in the same breath.

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President Barack Obama addresses the final session of the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina September 6, 2012.
On foreign policy, for instance, Obama ridiculed Romney as inexperienced and naïve.
“After all, you don’t call Russia our number one enemy – and not al Qaida – unless you’re still stuck in a Cold War time warp,” he said. “You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can’t visit the Olympics without insulting our closest ally.”
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The Democratic convention this week was constructed in part to rebut last week’s Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., during which Romney seized on disappointment in Obama after four years, and argued “the time has come to turn the page.”
Convention speeches have served as major milestones for Obama in his path to the White House. His 2004 keynote speech as a Senate candidate rocketed him to national stardom, and Obama’s 2008 speech as the Democratic presidential nominee helped propel him to victory.
On Thursday evening, Obama nodded toward the disillusionment of the high-soaring rhetoric of his last campaign, but said that he was still moved by the “hope” that animated his 2008 bid, and asked for more time to achieve his goals.
“You didn’t elect me to tell you what you wanted to hear. You elected me to tell you the truth,” he said. “And the truth is, it will take more than a few years for us to solve challenges that have built up over decades.”
Republicans, including Romney, have made issue of that tarnished sense of hope. The GOP nominee, who said he didn’t plan to watch Obama’s speech, nonetheless expected it to dwell on “forgotten promises.” Romney’s campaign manager said Obama’s speech had only made “the case for more of the same policies that haven't worked for the past four years.”
Republican-leaning super PACs and the state of the economy are two issues causing concern for President Obama's re-election campaign as the Democratic National Convention wraps up in Charlotte, North Carolina. NBC's Kristen Welker, Chuck Todd, and Tom Brokaw report.
But tonight’s acceptance speech was characteristic of a convention that devoted much of its energy to building up Obama and knocking down Romney.
Vice President Joe Biden's speech earlier in the evening was, in many ways, a warm-up act for the president, with Biden serving as the "character witness" for Obama.
The vice president hailed Obama's "gutsy" decisions, from rescuing the auto industry to ordering the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. And he made the case that the both of them had more work to do in a second term.
"We know we have more work to do. We know we’re not there yet. But not a day has gone by in the last four years when I haven’t been grateful that Barack Obama is our president," said Biden, “because he always has the courage to make the tough decisions.”
Biden also assumed the more traditional role for a vice president by going aggressively after Romney and his ticket-mate Paul Ryan -- keeping with the constant stream of scrutiny leveled toward the Republican duo at this week's convention.
"Folks, the 'Bain Way' may bring your firm the highest profits," said Biden, referring to the private equity firm Romney had co-founded, experience from which the GOP nominee cites as a chief credential. "But it’s not the way to lead our country from the highest office."
The notion of conviction was also a theme in Sen. John Kerry’s foreign policy-oriented speech earlier in the evening.
The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee said Romney “hasn’t learned the lessons of the past decade,” referring to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan initiated by President George W. Bush. Kerry also accused Romney of reversing himself and being inconsistent in criticizing Obama’s handling of Afghanistan and Libya.
“Talk about being for it before you were against it,” exclaimed Kerry, riffing on the infamous line from his 2004 campaign that fueled charges that Kerry – like Romney now – was a “flip-flopper.”
Obama’s speech – along with Romney’s last week – marked a turning point in the 2012 campaign, which now heads into its most intense leg leading up through Election Day. Convention speeches are regarded as some of the few opportunities for candidates to affect the trajectory of the race, though it will take days, if not more, to know whether the dueling powwows in Tampa and Charlotte will have moved the needle at all.
Both campaigns will hit the road on Friday to begin making their cases until a series of debates in October – the next major turning point in the campaign – one that could help determine the outcome of the election.
On Friday, Obama and Biden will campaign together in both Iowa and New Hampshire, two key swing states that their ticket won in 2008.
Romney, meanwhile, will campaign in New Hampshire while vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan campaigns in Nevada.



Wonderful speeches and so VERY blessed to be represented by two wonderful men!
Joe Biden -
“When things hung in the balance the President understood more about the auto industry, it was about American Pride and the President knew the world was watching! Conviction, Resolve, Barack!!”
“Courage in soul, compassion in heart, and a spine of steel!”
Barack Obama -
“Tax cuts will not help us compete with the scientists and engineers coming out of China.”
“You didn’t elect me to tell me what you wanted to hear, you elected me to tell the truth!”
“It’s time to do some nation-building right here at home!”
I didn’t document everything … but last but not least …
“I’m not the candidate anymore, I am the President!”
And he is my President and I will vote for him again!
Obama/Biden – where we actually speak truths and want to ove forward for ALL!
President Obama:
FORGET IT.
You told us you'd be a one-term President if you didn't fix the economic mess in three years, and you were EXACTLY right.
OMG! You people are NUTS!!!! ALL Obama has done is tell lies! He's niothin' but a suave talkin' Chicago lawyer who unfortunatly got elected president and has nearly run this country into the ground and divided us more than any other president! And I am NOT a Republican,either!
All his promises from tonight are already four years old and are unfulfilled. Why believe him this time?
He lied about cutting the deficit in half, slashing earmarks, ending no-bid contracts, keeping unemployment below 8%, limiting lobbyist influence in the White House, posting bills online five days before signing them, airing the healthcare debates on C-SPAN, his mandate being a tax, considering a VAT, the Iraq troop withdrawal rate, his associations with Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and Van Jones, his commitment to 'coal energy' and green cars, etc., etc., etc.
The list of lies is nearly endless, folks, and all he did tonight was make it LONGER.
Hey folks, I think what bothers me the most is how divided we are. It's very hateful the way we speak to each other. It hurts. I don't like it.
We are all Americans here. We are all passionate about our political beliefs. I respect that. We need checks and balances. I'm thankful for opposition. It's a choice at least. But why so dirty and personal? Damn, it's a tough time for America.
Everyone has simple one liners about what both sides have done or will do when we all know it's not that simple. It is government after all. Some politicians in both parties are crooks and saints. Some have good intentions and make bad decisions, some have personal agendas and make dumb decisions.
I can't even imagine working in high political office in this country. No wonder why we always end up with half ass choices. Real hard working individuals with honesty and integrity wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole, lol. Would you? Not me.
I don't understand why we are so hateful. I'm thankful that there are people still out there willing to put themselves through all of that crap to serve and take the job.
We watch when Pres after Pres through the years gets old and grey from the stress and lack of rest. Imagine what they know. It's way more than we ever will. They have to ingest and face real and serious problems that affect all of us, all day and everyday. It must be absolutely brutal.
The other thought I had is that there are no great Presidents. Some have done great things, no doubt. They all have had tough decisions and have made mistakes. They are human.
Personally, I would have liked to see a woman be President for a real change. Not Sarah or Hillary. Maybe Hillary but she is a bit of a career politician. I think a woman can be hard and decisive yet compassionate and understanding more than any man could. Just my opinion.
I guess to wrap up my thoughts here without going on and on, I want to remind people that we are one nation here. We can't forget that it's ok to agree to disagree, lol. Just because we don't see eye to eye doesn't mean we don't care about our country, our home. I love this place. I love our differences and diversity.
Repubs, I don't always agree with you, but, I have to say that I respect you and how you feel. I have said some crappy crap on these boards before and I'm sorry. The bottom line is, we are all in this together. We don't always agree but we all live with the results. We don't all have to like them, lol.
I had a strong dislike for for W. There were some things that I did like. Not a lot, lol. But, my point is I wanted him to be successful for all of us. I want Obama to be successful for ALL of us. If it's Romney's turn then so be it. I will stand behind him too. Whoever our President is, that's our guy. They get 4 yrs and if the people want him out then that's it. He is out. Let's just hope things get better for everyone regardless. That is all I honestly care about. I want us all to be great. Thanks for reading.
Good for you!
-- Clint Eastwood at the Republican National Convention on Aug. 30, 2012
He has proven to you that you cannot take his word. He said his only mistake during his first term was not "telling a story" to the American people. Oh, he told us stories, all right. He told us TONS of stories, and they were all as fictitious could be. Don't fall for the 'stories' this time, folks.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for an America with a future.
google: SCYTL It is a company in Spain that will tally our votes. Tallying votes has now been outsourced. It is an obama backer.
Too bad for you Layton that your mind is already closed. A true liberal will always keep their mind and hearts open until the very end. You are as closed off as those whose intentions you judge while refusing to uphold those in office to their misdeeds and actions.
'Neon heart day-glow eyes
A city lit by fireflies
They're advertising in the skies
For people like us
And I miss you when you're not around
I'm getting ready to leave the
ground
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights' U2
MAGIC LIGHT ~ U2 AMERICA ~ ROUND TWO
Mitt Romney was a one term governor, for some reason. He saw the 2008 GOP Financial Meltdown Coming!
I've been a daily investor through it all. Seeing Is Believing. The DOW chart does not lie! We Are Better Off!
While governor of MA, Willard Romney left that state 47 out of 50 in job creation.
Barack Hussein Obama
4 MORE YEARS 4 MORE YEARS 4 MORE YEARS
Cubs and Jeep .. and you seriously are endorsing "Trickle Down, I've no Plan Romney?"
Side note to Jeep ... the division has come from your wonderful Tea Party ... what they have done to this country in inexcusable ...
Obama/Biden 2012 - the party that addresses the issue
"The days of sweetheart deals to companies like Halliburton will be OVER when I'm in the White House."
That was a 2008 campaign promise. He then awarded a no-bid contract to C&C, only to cancel it amidst a scandal, another no-bidder to SEGA Tech, owned by a major Democratic donor, and ANOTHER no-bidder to (get ready) HALLIBURTON.
But we should believe his promises this time around?
OMG !!!!
I watched the President on CBS. At the end of the speech, the CBS anchor stated that Clinton's speech the previous night was better
Yes! Their fairy tales did put everyone to sleep, didn't they!LOL
This country cannot afford Vulture/Voucher and I am tired of the GOP telling me what my religion should be, WHO I can marry, and what women can and cannot do with their bodies.
Its up to you America... Our biggest threat is gone.. now its up to US to vote against our second biggest threat. ROMNEY.
The choice really is clear. Either vote to keep America a great country where every person has a chance and people behave like human beings who care about their neighbors and fellow countrymen, or vote to piss on the grave of every American soldier who fought and died for these very ideals and turn our country into a third-world pit bought out and run by corporate interests. Simple as that.
Romney was watching the President's speech tonight from BeckyBeckyBeckystan and thought it was so good, Romney is going to flip flop once more and Vote for President Obama /Biden and Team America 2012!
He promised to cut earmark spending to 1994 levels, but he RAISED earmark spending 100 billion dollars and signed a stimulus package containing 9,300 earmarks.
But we should believe him this time?
He promised to keep unemployment below 8% if we passed his bill, but it went over 10% and has stayed over the 8% promised barrier for 43 consecutive months.
But we should believe him THIS time, folks? GIMME A BREAK!
YAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Did Barrack Hussein just decide not to show up and they had a look-a-like repeat his 2008 speech?
Typical Liberal, symbolism over substance.
Where are the jobs Barrack?
Where is the 5% unemployment Barrack?
Where is the deficit cut in half Barrack?
Where is the FU**ING BUDGET Barrack?
4 years of failure can never deserve another 4 years to confirm it.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
The GOP reminds me of the bunch of little boys who found some fireworks, lit them and stuffed them into the local gas station's storage tank.
Then they ran away and watched it blow up from a hill.
As the cleanup crew picked up the pieces, they ran back down the hill and said, "Wow, you sure made a mess!"
"Can we have some of the leftover fireworks?"
When President Obama declared during his speech , that he is the president........Romney shouted back at the TV, " Oh yeah, well I am Rove's, Norquists, and Cheney's Strawman and you aren't!"
Obama/Biden and Team America 2012
Until people can prove that there are people who don't have a chance and demonstrate WHY they don't have such a chance, victimhood is lame.
you will think "blessed" if he gets in again. you will think a big club just hit you in the head! He is not telling you the truth, just what you want to hear! And you are falling for it. They led them to slaughter and they did not question and you are being duped again!
Here are the jobs, :
This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:
Job loss: Worst in 34 years
Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.
Here was last month's number from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July.
Tomorrow's numbers look like they'll be even better.
There's your choice.
The only way the GOP can win is LIE!
A Great Speech, right up there with some of the best in US history ...
For one, the President was talking about our soldiers and their sacrifices - thus those empty chairs in many American families' living rooms - in contrast GOP had an empty chair talked to by a delusional old Folly from Follywood (Clint).
In contrast again, Mitt didn't even mention our soldiers sacrificing in Afghanistan.
OeterK, you forgot to tell us WHICH candidate you think will keep us from the dismal picture you present.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for an America with a future!!
I love how Obama reinstated the Glass Steagall Act.... oh wait.
Who WROTE all those earmarks, CubsFan?
Wouldn't be Ryan's House of Representatives, would it?
And most of them went to RED STATES.
The weeping and gnashing of teeth could be heard all across the land when Obama tried to cut those earmarks.
Don't LIE!
President Obama can certainly "talk the talk". Problem is, he cannot "walk the walk". He hasn't done it the last four years.
Same BS, different day, from Obama. Sad.
$16 trillion in out-of-control debt, over $5 trillion of it in less than four years, and 8% unemployment for a record 43 months..... Two prime reasons to vote him out of office in November.
Disappointed - Well I certainly wouldn't vote for a party that wants to reverse women's rights, that wants to lower taxes on the wealthy. I think they should at least pay the same percentage of taxes that I do. What in the foggy blue morning are they thinking when they want to require women to submit to intravaginal ultrasound probes mandated by government? They say they want smaller government. Imagine the agency of the intravaginal probe. I wonder how many that would employ and what it would cost. The Democrats were really fired up and had plenty to say. I watched both the RNC and DNC. It looks like Obama is a shoo in.
Ryan and Romney still have not gotten together to compare notes point by point yet on their plans....what the hell? Well they are not the same but they are quite alike, but different..uh no we haven't compared them point by point yet.....DUHHH! Great plan........lie to get elected and just pass laws for Rove/Romney/Cheney the real presidential candidates!
Really, RealAmericans? Ryan wrote an earmark to build Rahm Emanuel a $900,000 planetarium? Ryan and the Republicans wrote an earmark to fund seal research and another to fund turtle research in Obama's 'home' state of Hawaii? Ryan and the Republicans wrote an earmark to fund 'weed removal' in the Democratic stronghold of Maryland?
As you said . . . DON'T LIE.
Glass (D, VA) - Steagall (D, AL)
REPEALED by Gramm (R, TX) - Leach (R, IA) - Bliley (R, VA)
Reinstatement REFUSED by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives
OBSTRUCT and LIE - that's all the GOP knows how to do.
JimSpence
Coming back...let's REPEAL the GOP plan to export jobs to other countries along with the tax credit they get
Coming back... Hard to UNDO what BUSH did in 8 years isn't it
Amazing that BUSH said the same THING and 5.3 TRILLION later...
Yeah, why won't the GOP support a budget? WHy do they have to add the restriction of marriage, what women can and cannot do with their own bodies, and RELIGION to their budget bill.
Exactly what America should be asking after they voted for BUSH
For those who want to continue the redistribution of wealth from the lower/middle class to the rich and corporations. Gotta keep that CORPORATE WELFARE flowing to OIL corporations already making record profits.
You berate Layton after having made the following rant....??
My "hope" is for the Obama's to leave Washington, D.C. permanently with them never returning as President, Senator or anything else.
The right loves to make the claim that Obama lied and kept none of his promises. Yet no one can dispute this record below (Yo Layton, you can take this one to the bank : ) )
Promises Kept 190 37%
Compromised 72 14%
Stalled 49 10%
In the Works 112 22%
Promise Broken 83 16%
No Yet Rated 2 0%
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
Now tell us all you Obama haters, is their a president with a better record, worse record, matching record? Tick, tock, tick, tock .. this question has been asked so many times without any sort of answer, I won't be holding my breath.
Considering Obama started his campaign under a sound economy that crashed shortly before the election, that he could keep one promise is truly astounding.
Layton-3733410
Hmmmmmm, do you mean Barrack Husseins trickle-down that poured $863 billion of stimulus into the top of our government and expected it to trickle-down to all those "shovel-ready" jobs?
Oh wait, silly me, there never were any "shovel-ready" jobs were there?
Remember, remember when Barrack Hussein laughed in your face along with our "Job Czar", Jeff Immelt about no such thing as shovel ready jobs?
Sure ya do.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Both parties work for the same bank. How can any of you think that is OK for banks to target the poor with their bank fees and usury interest? Does any christian here think that its cool to charge 30% to the poorest among us?
Usury used to be illegal. How can a so-called Christian nation allow the banking industry to ride rough shod over the most vulnerable US citizens? this country is a shameful disgrace imo, and the democrats are also shameful.
Not to mention the so called "war on drugs" also a war on consciousness. How can a black man support this effort? Its racist by the numbers. We have more blacks in prison than were slaves in 1850. Mostly due to prohibition laws. Shame on Obama. Yet, he doesn't seem to loose a wink of sleep. I don't get it.
Jupiter
When Romney was sworn in Massachusetts was #49 in jobs. Moving to 47th is an improvement despite the drain Massahusetts care added.
Unless Obama gains over 355,000 new jobs, he will be the first president in history to leave office with less jobs than when he began. Because of the ADP report today, he needs to average nearly 90,000 per month.
Tax cuts don't cost anybody ANYTHING. In case you didn't realize, paying taxes is giving up what's ALREADY YOURS to the govt.
If I hear the LIE that tax cuts are subsidized one more time.... It's only a subsidy when the govt actually cuts a check.
Whining about tax cuts are a bogeyman when people won't admit that govt offers and promises more than it has the money to pay. Then they have the audacity to say that they need more tax dollars when they really need to quit spending money they know they don't have.
OeterK:
I agree with you, its Romney and Ryan to save the USA from the Democrats.
kitty . . .
I will not think "blessed" if Mitt Romney and Lyin Ryan represent me! I am all for a decent opponent. But Mitt and his lying sidekick are nowhere near that.
JimSpence
You mean, the TRICKLE Down economics from BUSH for 8 years did so much to stop the rise of unemployment, higher gas prices, the housing bubble, and the exportation of american JOBS to other countries. The GOP economic plan is FAILURE.
Oh wait, silly me, I thought that the GOP told us that if we lowered corporate taxes, we would have more jobs... were are they?
Here ya go, CubsFan:
Red States Gobble Up Omnibus Earmarks
Mississippi Republican Sen. Thad Cochran led his colleagues by raking in more than $470 million in 204 earmarks. Mississippi's junior Republican, Roger Wicker, pulled in more than $390 million. The totals can't be added together because the figure includes earmarks each received solo and with others, so the same earmark could be in both senators' column. Cochran, on his own, pulled in roughly $76 million and Wicker brought home $4 million.
Cochran's $76 million ranks him sixth among solo earmarkers. (Earmarks can be requested individually, with other members of Congress or along with the president.)
For solo earmarks, nobody beat out Sen. Bob Byrd (D-W.Va.), last year's appropriations committee chairman. The defender of earmarks took home $123 million. Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) came in second, with $114 million. Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.) rounded out the top three, bringing home $86 million by himself.
Republican leader Mitch McConnell is bringing $51 million back to Kentucky and Democratic leader Harry Reid earmarked $27 million for Nevada. They ranked tenth and seventeenth, respectively.
Louisiana did well, too. Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu took in the third-most joint and solo earmarks, bringing home $332 million for local projects. Her Republican colleague, Sen. David Vitter, pulled down the fifth-most at $249 million.
The Louisianans straddled Iowa Democrat Tom Harkin, the chairman of the agriculture committee, who brought back $292 million.
Rural and small-state voters were the big winners on an absolute and on a per capita basis, even though it was big states and urban areas that have delivered Congress and the White House to Democrats. Of the top ten earmarking senators, only Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.; $77 million solo; $235 combined), represents a large state and only three of the top ten are blue states. In the top 20, only six blue states are represented.
Cubsfan, if you honestly don't know which party is which, what are doing posting here?
ROMNEY GAVE UP TONIGHT ON HIS CHANCE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, HE HAS HIS FUTURE SET FOR SPENDING TIME IN THE BIG HOUSE!
BAIN BEING INVESTIGATED ON TAXES!
From Forbes.com 9/1/12
The New York Times is reporting that Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, is among a number of firms being investigated by New York Attorney General, Eric Schneiderman, for failing to pay taxes.
The New York AG's Taxpayer Protection Bureau has issued subpoenas to at least twelve financial firms, including Bain, looking into whether the companies converted management fees (taxed as ordinary income) paid by investors into fund investments which are taxed at a dramatically lower rate.
The controversial tax avoidance scheme came to light last month when Bain Capital internal financial information was published online by Gawker.com , however the investigation had reportedly commenced prior to the publication and is not believed to be tied to the document dump.
According to the Times
While Governor Romney has not been active at Bain Capital for quite some time, he does continue to receive profits from the company and held investments in some of the funds that utilized the tax avoidance strategy.
Wait a minute remember the wall between Church and state. The main reason we became a country at all. Freedom of religion. James Madison and Jefferson. Conservatives claim they want to stay true to the forefathers. Yet I ask why the issue with abortion. Is that not an issue between ones God and family.
Why is the republican party a Conservative Christian Party attempting to control the Rights of the state with Big government over religious views? Jesus would not be doing this. Any true believer of GOD would know that each Man woman and child has a personal connection with GOD that no Government should mess with.
I can see all the newly converted MORONS now. Leave your GOD out of MY STATE and my Government. I choose to believe that GOD is Bigger than the Republicant party.
RealAmericansFirst-
Why didn't you mention the fact that President Bill Clinton signed the repeal of the Glass Steagal Act?
JimSpence ..
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/paul-ryan-explains-why-he-didnt-recall-requesting-stimulus-funds/
Awesome speech! Was very proud of my President tonight. He will be my choice for a 2nd term!
Biden: Thanks Michelle for her wonderful speech last night (Wednesday) uh, on Monday. Michelle spoke on Tuesday.
Biden: My dad respected Obama, uh would have respected Obama
Obama: I an not the candidate anymore, I am the president.
Thanks for reminding us as you have done sooo many times, we know the disaster you really are.
That sham of a vote on the platform was simply a disaster and just shows how the democrats want to rule. Doesn't matter what the will of the people is, just what they want. There will be three election days in November. If on Nov 6 the dems don't get the answer they want, we will vote again on Nov 7 and if they don't get the answer they want, then we vote again on Nov 8. If that still doesn't get the answer they want, Nasty Pelosi will just "deem" Obama president. That's the democrat way.
All you need to know abut Billy Boy Clinton..."I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
They all lie...
but my liars won't appoint socialists with leftist agendas to the SCOTUS, won't continue to grow the entitlement class and make them more relevant than the middle class, won't take my guns, won't try to make this a godless or a Muslim society, won't treat success like it's a crime and won't try to be my nanny.
I'll bet the people of Charlotte will be glad when all of those weirdos and freaks have left town.
oy-vay!:
Every single federal income tax bracket reduction in the USA's (since 1913) history of national income taxes, has resulted in the highest brackets paying MORE than they did before the reductions. Why? They have more of their money to spend and/or invest. The Y2001 and Y2003 reductions saw the IRS collecting almost 85% more tax revenue from the top bracket. My source for that fact? The USA IRS.
Why don't you mention that the Rebublicans had a complete stranglehold on both houses of Congress when it was repealed?
Pres. Obama's plea:
"It wasn't my fault, I had no control, I was only the POTUS. What was I supposed to do, it was the other guy. Give me another chance guys, I'll get right this time. I promise... Just like I promised I'd fixed it the first time around..."
He gets my vote because the choices are very clear in the election and the GOP offers No hope or any path forward except a repeat of the same mindless greed that just about killed us. It was a great speech and a great convention and I'm proud that he will be serving 4 more years. For those on here who are calling him a liar - have you ever heard of a website called Politifact? I suggest you go check it and just see how wrong you are about the real facts.
Romney says...corporations are people.......Birthers should be all over this one....Protect the country from Citizens United allowing Foreigners to buy an American republican politician. ...Republicans allowing Foreigners to buy the republican candidate of their choice. Meanwhile, real Americans were dying and getting wounded In Iraq fake WMD war. Did a corporation get blown up by IED? Did a corporation get wounded, or serve 3 terms in Iraq? Did a corporation come home in a coffin?
Don't forget ever what Bush/Cheney/ repubs did to economy and to our soldiers. Romney wants to do it all over again.
Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! Vote President Obama/Biden 2012
If you research Glass Steagal, you will find that just about every Republican had tried to repeal the law for many years. Clinton signed the repeal that that the Republicans wanted repealed and many Democrats went along with also to appease the banks. Are you saying that Clinton should have vetoed what the Republicans pushed through? Here again, is a twisting of the truth by Republicans who care little about telling the truth. Clinton tried to get along with Republicans to his great chagrin.
Sutter,
you got 30% because of credit card reform
-made raising interest on credit cards pretty much illegal after it became law
-many fees, so interest went up to replace that revenue.
-because of the housing bubble burst, raising interest is a way to discourage the use of promised credit card limits at a time when credit lines were large and unused. By insuring the available balance was not used, banks lowered their debt to loan ratioes to acceptable levels. If your Bank wiped out your available balance, but that would hurt credit scores. Banks in the worst shape raise interest and cut the credit lines.
No, they'll appoint more of the same corporate hacks that gave us "Citizens United".
That's why we're not going to elect them.
Unemployment at start of Romney Mass Admin - - 8%
Unemployment when he left - - 4.7%
Deficit when he arrived - $3 billion
Surplus when he left -- $2 billion
Competency Matters
Romney/Ryan 2012 !!
It is a clear choice. Voters must decide and choose wisely, at this rate what will we be like if we have the same leadership four years from now?
Jan, 2009 (O's first day on the job)....now
Unemployment 7.8%...8.3%
Median Income (a.k.a. middle class) $54,983....$50,964
Gasoline/Gallon $1.84....$3.82
National Debt $10.6Trillion.....$16 Trillion
Source: BLS: Sentier Research; Dept of Energy; Dept of Treasury
RealAmericansFirst- You wrote "Why don't you mention that the Rebublicans had a complete stranglehold on both houses of Congress when it was repealed?"
Clinton, a beloved Democrat to you, signed the bill that destroyed the world's economy. YES, republicans and Citigroup spear-headed the effort BUT nevertheless, who was president? Clinton. A Democrat. If he didn't sign it we would not be in the same banking mess we are in today.
Brother, I'm not a Republican, I'm a humanist who opposes the banking industrial complex. Democrats are slightly better than republicans. I will give you that.
My question to you is, Why? Why has the Glass Steagall Act NOT been repealed by our Democrat congress and president? Why? They had a majority of ALL houses for a while even! ? Why??
RedDevPS ....
Biden has Obama's back, and you my wonderful friend, always have mine.
Story ... I met RedDevPS on the FR posts and after a lot of mutual comments, we found out that we went to the same school.
For all of the haters out there, sometimes life is just about that. LIFE. It is what our President believes in. Our common good and our lives. We have children that go to college, children that get pregnant before they would like to, and children that struggle with the day to day.
THAT is why I will vote for President Obama. . . He understands the day-to-day struggles that we all face.
Obama/Biden 2012 - They understand that asking your parents for tuition just isn't an option.
Notice how rt wingers hope for bad things to happen to America?
Notice how rt wingers cheer if there is bad news for America?
Notice how rt wingers try and pass laws that are bad for America?
You know like screaming how they love the constitution then create laws to prevent Americans from voting?
Ann screams "I love women." Repubs daily pass laws against women with their war on women's rights!
Yeah those kind of laws...rt winger laws that hate Americans!
Obama/Biden 2012
Mr. Obama's speech in a nut shell:
MORE SPENDING
INTERVENTION into private businesses to mirror the GM fiasco.
HAMMER Wall Street but hire more Ex-Wall Street "Fat Cats" to work in his administration to draft financial regulations.
CONVERT ObamaCare into a single payer system (the Federal Government).
Meanwhile, Mr. Obama is saying "I deserve to be re-elected to finish my transformation of America. I NEED your vote to do this."
Yep, dismal performance.
Ahh … God is dead! … but we've got The Messiah!
Sure, one born with an affirmative-action spoon in his mouth, coddled throughout his life with all the breaks white-man's guilt could provide from Liberals [you are kidding me right?: President of the Harvard Law Review without ONCE having published a single peer-review article?], and never, once, being on his own in the 'dreaded' private sector!
But we've got the Messiah! … and hunker down for the onslaught of racial guilt charges and threats to be socially shunned if you DARE to vote against him!!
God is dead, the Messiah is alive! … and a good chunk of us despair in self-imposed daily censorship while fearfully minding our daily steps from the numerous racial double-standards imposed by us all by liberals throughout the years.
Harley Chic - even if you didn't tell us you were a GNoP'er, we'd know by how badly you lie.
From Politifact:
"At the end of his term, Romney could claim a small net job gain and a lower unemployment rate, but the pace of job growth lagged the nation badly and only a huge outflow of Massachusetts workers to faster growing states kept the unemployment rate from climbing higher.
Repubs want to simplify and make people forget the damage they have caused and will cause. So they simply say are you better off then you were 4 years ago?
We all know the economy was crashing and losing over 700,000 jobs per month because of greedy rich. Dems and President Obama stopped it.
We all know repubs on the night Obama took office promised to obstruct every bill that would make President Obama look good in 2012, and they tried, even blocking health care for 911 responders. Record amount of blocking bills to take the economy down.
Repubs are waging social war against women on health care, equal pay, and control over their own bodies, with laws which will turn the clock back over a hundred years.
Repubs are creating voter suppression laws all over the country to prevent the elderly from voting to protect Social Security, Medicare, medicaid, ACA care, the Poast office, etc. Voter suppression laws to stop the young from same day registration to keep them from voting democratic party, voter suppression laws to keep the poor and middle class from voting...
Yes the repubs want you to forget how they want the greedy rich taking all of the rest of your money they didn't get when they crashed the economy.
Repubs don't want you to remember what Bush/Cheney did when they lied nation into war killing thousands of our troops and wounding and killing thousands more.
Repubs want to to forget the debt they caused with the two unfunded wars etc.
So they simply say are you better off?.......Why don't they ask... How good are repubs doing at obstructing recovery from the damage they caused? That is the question you should be asking!
Yes the repubs don't want you to remember how they obstruct you from recovering the economy crash.....
Remember what the repubs have done and what they will do to you if elected again. Destroy the nation even more.
Vote Obama/Biden and Democratic Party, and finish the recovery for the middle class.
@Layton-3733410#1.42: I'm with you. We can't allow these 2 Corporatist's to turn this country into "the worlds money changing hole" with the only wage earners toting their buckets at $2.00 a day. Romney is nothing but a thief and a liar. The little man running with him, while not yet accomplished, is well on His way to becoming an olympic grade liar.
Obama/Biden 2012!
Notacommie..... You sound like a communist, but at the very least socially paranoid about a reality only scared, under-educated, white males fear when they turn on the TV and see a black man exemplify real leadership values.
I am sorry but if President Obama did not keep ANY of his Promises Over The Last 3.5 Years except to his Wall Street Bankster Masters why of Earth Would ANY Rational Person think He Would Keep ANY Of His Promises Now?
He's Even Had Mr. Bill Out Making Excuses For Him instead of Admitting his FAILURES as he Promised US he'd do!
America Refuse To Reward FAILURE Refuse To Re-Elect ANY Wall Street Corrupted Incumbents not even Barack Obama!
America....Watch this just released PBS Documentary and then you will know what these WALL STREET CRIMINALS Are All About!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.”~ Abraham Lincoln
I'm really tired of repeating this, so please get it straight;
The Democrats had 60 votes in the Senate for a total of 24 days between 2008 and 2010.
The rest of the time, either Teddy Kennedy or Robert Byrd was out because they were ill or had died.
You really think everything that needed to be done to bring this nation back from its knees could have been accomplished in 24 days?
Or should the GOP have gotten off it's a$$ and helped?
Starsailing, put down the bong, stand away from the bong. Good boy (I think. More than likely goes either way). Now lie down and get some rest.
And OMG. I have to come back and tackle that list in your last post tomorrow. You may think it's late but that one cannot go unanswered.
You must have had some damned good buds in that weed.
Stating facts to the rightwing lemming base is like talking to a BRICKWALL or wind up talking toys. They just keep repeating the same LIES fed in their pea noggins by their Rethug overlords.
But the left must keep hammering the facts just the same! On Lyin' Ryan:
On August 16, CAP noted that “since 2001 [Ryan] has voted for at least 65 separate pieces of deficit and debt-increasing legislation, with the total tab for all those votes a whopping $6.8 trillion in cumulative deficits.”
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187865/no-bull@!$%#-paul-ryans-votes-created-6-8-trillion-in-deficits-under-bush/
Then the lying hypocrite DID THIS!!
Lyin’ Paul Ryan Applied For Obamacare Funds To Help A Family Planning Facility
The money Paul Ryan applied for was made available by Obamacare, and he wanted the funds to be used for the Kenosha Community Health Center’s expansion called the Belle City Neighborhood Health Center.
Here is the shocker. This community health center provides family planning. So not only is Paul Ryan hypocritically denouncing ObamaCare while dipping his hands trying to extract the benefits of it for his constituency, but he is also funding a family planning facility.
After speaking with the facility, they told me they do not perform abortion services, but they do provide birth control, like the pill and all other family planning services.
http://www.politicususa.com/paul-ryan-applied-obamacare-funds-family-planning-facility.html
Obama/Biden 2012!!
Jennifer244-
William Jefferson Clinton was the president of the United States. He signed the bill which eliminated the Glass-Steagall Act.
I don't understand how you can argue this fact? Are you saying the President Clinton has no free will?
GOP = Growth, Opportunity, Prosperity
Dems = Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie, Spend, Spend, Spend, Tax, Tax, Tax like there is no end.
Romney & Ryan: Business Success + Fiscal Responsibility = The winning combination Americans really need.
The right ticket for American unity, peace and prosperity: Romney-Ryan 2012!
The republicans pledge to america 4 years ago."1. To make this a one term President if we cannot find a way to impeach him in any way we can. 2. To bash all hope for americans so they will be more brain dead and willing to give up any and all rights to the religious right and eventually live under the flag of the ten so called commandments and trash that worthless piece of paper they call the constitution."
Well so far they have failed miserably and not succeeded in any of their endeavors but don't count them out yet. Patriotism tossed aside, they are already initiating the tealiban into their party which brings them a step further in bashing all hope and replacing our constitution with thier self written bible. Kind of like the Taliban has done with the muslims koran even.
The kindest remark I can make to that, MUW, is that you are "misinformed".
Who keeps their promises? And who just obstructs and then blames the other side?
From PolitiFact.com:
A scorecard on President Obama's campaign promises
Four years ago, Barack Obama made an extraordinary array of campaign promises -- 508 pledges on everything from taxing the rich to ending the Iraq war.
He vowed to get health coverage for the uninsured and to safeguard the environment by capping carbon emissions. He pledged to push for comprehensive immigration reform and help homeowners after the housing market crashed.
Above all, he would change the tenor of the debate in Washington.
"We have a chance to bring the country together in a new majority — to finally tackle problems that Washington has ignored for too long. And that is why the same old Washington textbook campaigns just won't do in this election," he said in Blueprint for Change, a campaign document that became his presidential to-do list.
PolitiFact has been tracking all 508 promises and keeping tally on the Obameter throughout his presidency.
Our scorecard shows Obama kept 37 percent of his promises. He brought the war in Iraq to a close and finally achieved the Democratic dream of a universal health care program. When the United States had Osama bin Laden in its sights, Obama issued the order to kill.
Sixteen percent are rated Broken, often because they hit a brick wall in Congress. Global warming legislation passed the House but died in the Senate. He didn't even push for comprehensive immigration reform. His program to help homeowners facing foreclosure didn't even meet its own benchmarks. (PolitiFact rates campaign promises based on outcomes, not intentions.)
With four months left in Obama's term, PolitiFact has rated Obama's remaining promises Compromise (14 percent), Stalled (10 percent) or In the Works (22 percent).
One stands out as not only his biggest broken promise, but as an explanation for many others that have fizzled or failed: his pledge to bring people together for a bipartisan agenda.
"That, it seems to me, is the most important promise that the president has not been able to keep," said William Galston, a former Clinton administration aide who now is a fellow at the Brookings Institution and studies political polarization. "It will long be debated by historians whether he tried and failed, or didn't really try at all."
This is an accounting of the promises Obama kept and failed to keep, and how bipartisanship eluded him at nearly every turn.
A scorecard on President Obama's campaign promises
PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.
We rate their status as Not Yet Rated, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken.
The report card provides an up-to-the-minute tally of all the promises.
The Obameter Scorecard
GOP Pledge-O-Meter: Tracking the promises of the GOP Leadership in Congress
PolitiFact has compiled promises that Republican congressional leaders made during the 2010 campaign and is tracking their progress on our GOP Pledge-O-Meter.
We rate their status as Not Yet Rated, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken. (See our About the Pledge-O-Meter page for definitions of the ratings.)
The report card provides an up-to-the-minute tally of all the promises.
GOP Pledge-O-Meter Scorecard
There's your choice, folks.
262 kept or compromised promises by Obama, 15 by the GOP.
Who lies? Who tells the truth? You decide.
Mr. President:
Good delivery. I look forward to the Debates. I am supporting W M Romney and not you. I give you the highest level of respect and honor your achievement of being elected the USA's president. I do not blame you for anything prior to you being elected in November 2008. Nor do I blame you for the current slow economy, low education level, 23 millions people out of work, the weather, increasing the national debt, or many other items.
I do fault you for NOT being a positive leader of the USA. This "divide and conquer" environment is your fault and yours alone. You have lowered the prestige of the presidential role in the world.
Good night and may you always be safe.
What have the Democrats done 2 years prior when they had the house? The answer is nothing.....that is why 53 of them disappeared during THE GREAT SHELLACKING occurring on 11/2/10!
That "gridlock" problem will be solved when the DEMS lose the Senate on 11/6/12 as well........ Yeah Baby!
President Obama and TEAM AMERICA KILLED BIN LADEN.
Bush quit trying.
Romney thought of corporate profits and said he would not go after Bin Laden because it was too expensive.
TEAM AMERICA AND PRESIDENT OBAMA .......PROTECTING AMERICA from the enemies and rt wingers.
James Taylor: "I'm an old white guy, and I love Barack Obama."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZmBJ3aWVg
Yep, all the greatest song writers ALLOWS the DNC to play their songs, if they aren't playing for Obama events!
As Tom Petty would say I won't back down! And played last night's convention. Tonight U2.
First let me say, Im a Republican...but I will be voting for Obama.
For my fellow Republicans, all is I can say is i hope you are all independantly wealthy and each of you own an underground bunker....and Im almost positive none of you are/do.
Romney will strip every dime from each one of you that he can, strip the rights that each one of us are guaranteed, and then he'll declare war so he can pilfer the funds while claiming its the patriotic thing to do. Didnt any of you learn a lesson from the Bush era ? (I'll answer for you...no you didnt because you are the very people who re-elected Bush after all his lies were exposed and then cried when everyone got screwed ) The Republican party isnt what it was 20 years ago...now its all about the $$$ while banging a patriotic drum so the masses will follow blindly because its the patriotic thing to do. Shame on each and every one of you for falling for the thinly vieled BS over and over again. They dont care about us...and havent for years.
Go ahead and hold you're breath on that. That will be one less vote for the kings of obstructionism.
talktothe hand is going to bed to...talk to his hand.....nity nite!
And not a drop of rain in Charlotte tonight.
President Obama knew exactly what Americans needed to hear tonight. We didn't need to hear more doom and gloom and cynicism and doubt and fear-mongering. We heard plenty of that during the RNC last week. What we needed was to feel empowered by a strong leader who not only believes in himself, but believes in us, the American people. Clinton and Obama's speeches were a perfect pairing. Clinton debunked many of the Republican myths, and then Obama uplifted and inspired us.
I can tell you that I've had a few supervisors in my lifetime, and the ones I have enjoyed working with the most were the ones who focused on the positive, who believed in me and who inspired me. The most difficult ones were the naysayers and those who focused on the negative.
For me, the choice is clear. President Obama is the man I want to work with to re-build America. President Obama is the man that I trust. President Obama has my vote.
Obama/Biden 2012
Ohio48, more power to you. Don't let the door hit your fake a** as you "walk out the door". Seriously, it's pretty insulting that you think everybody else is stupid enough to buy that story.
ItsAboutTime-3704531
Hmmmm, lemme see.
2007 unemployment rate 4.6%.
2008 gas price per gallon $1.83
Housing bubble, read this for the real cause of the bubble http://theaffordablemortgagedepression.com/2010/03/11/origin-of-the-housing-bubble-the-national-homeownership-strategy.aspx
Exportation of jobs from NAFTA by your boy-toy Billy “Blue Dress” Clinton. You remember, even Ross Perot told you Libbies about the “Giant Sucking Sound”. How accurate was he on both counts, jobs and Clinton.
Democrats had control of both Houses of Congress from January 2007 through January 2011. HEY!!!! Isn’t that when the economy and housing crashed? Isn’t that when gas started skyrocketing?
You betcha!
Nice try at deflection though.
Try to keep up Spanky.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
When the media arm of the Obama administration -- MSNBC -- is calling the speech "workman-like", it's wasn't exactly inspiring for anybody other than the most over-the-top Obama fanatics.
Here's the orginal story on Obama's brother & how poor he is and how our GREAT President hasnt even offered to help him have a better life..... Amazing how someone can talk about how much they want to help this nation and wont help their own family.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/
@oy-vay "Tax cuts don't cost anybody ANYTHING. In case you didn't realize, paying taxes is giving up what's ALREADY YOURS to the govt. If I hear the LIE that tax cuts are subsidized one more time.... It's only a subsidy when the govt actually cuts a check."
WHAT IF IT REDUCES THE SIZE OF THE CHECK THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO THE GOVENRMENT IN TAXES? HOW CAN YOU REDUCE THE SIZE OF THAT CHECK, AND THAT MONEY NOT COME FROM SOMEWHERE? SINCE I AM LYING PLEASE BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS WITH MATH.
Please explain to me how you can make and earn money in "America" and not owe the government anything? Did you actually print out the money or did the government? Did you attend public school, who paid for that, who taught you? Did you pave those roads? Did you lay the electric wire? How about the plumbing? Who paid the police to PROTECT your sorry a$$ from people beating you up as a kid or even as an adult? How about the military, firefighters, coast guard, etc.? Let me guess you do not owe those people ANYTHING?
Just like those 5 trillion in tax cuts you all want, that will not make our debt go up even more huh? I take it you cheated or failed at math class huh?
BTW good speech there Mr. President, raise those taxes. "Raise baby raise"
And republicans have been obstructing for 4 straight years. Not once have they offered anything to help repair their mess unless it had tax cuts, more deductions/incentives for the top tier and a line in the bill that would make those permanent while at the same time taking away deductions for the middle class and giving them tax hikes to pay for the cuts they said the near broke corporations they work for need in order to survive even though they absolutely do not plan on creating jobs in this country ever again, it surely will help their profit margins as they ship more machinery into third world nations and create 10s of millions of less than a dollar an hour wages with the only benefits being they won't slap your back with a wet towel if you keep your legs crossed and not expect bathroom breaks for the next eight hours.
I feel sorry for you Mike that youre so easily manipulated.....You didnt hear the Dems warmongering against China and Russia and IRAN the way Mitt and McCain did...Do you honesstly believe the Repubs wont start another war ? Theyre already planning it and haave stated it numerouss times on national TV...You must only watch Fox News....seriously
@RealAmericansFirst -
you omitted that the repeal of Glas-Stegall was signed into law by Bill Clinton.
The senate vote was 90-8 in favor, the house 362-57 in favor, so with Bill Clinton's signature apparently many Democrats were also in strong favor of repeal.
Isn't it funny that Bill Clinton's DNC speech blamed the republicans for removing financial controls when he was party to it, as he was the one who actually signed away those controls...
rt wingers whining that they didn't get their diaper changed by President Obama yet. You know how a baby cries with a mess it made in it's diaper, then when you want to change the baby they take off running and crawling away?...yeah.....well you may like sitting in your mess, but it stinks for the rest of us!
Obama/Biden 2012
Ohio48
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Oh yeah, you're a Republican, and I'm a supporter of Debbie Whatsername Slutz.
I love the Libbies who come on here and try to pretend they are a Republican or Independent but now they see the light with the European Socialist Barrack Hussein.
Tell it to the limp-wristed Libbies, they'll believe anything. We real Americans will vote for American exceptionalism not mediocrity.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Mike, they obstructed for 4 years??? How??? The Dems had complete control for 2 years of those years and could -- and did -- do whatever they wanted. Were that not true Obamacare could never have gotten passed out of Congress to Obama's desk.
Greedy government is the root of all our problems. High property taxes, high sales taxes, high corporate taxes, high resale taxes, captial gains taxes, luxury taxes, gas guzzler taxes, Obamacare taxes......government destroys innitiative, destroys our drive to invest. Democrats are the root of everything that is wrong with our country!
Sound and fury, signifying ......NOTHING! Mr. Obama , You were given the opportunity tonight to dazzle us with Your brilliance, to explain what You would do differently,to correct Your mistakes and failures , IF We were to decide to renew Your contract for four more years, and once again, You failed,....... miserably. Instead of laying out a plan, ANY PLAN!, You chose to insult Us by trying to baffle Us with Your rah, rah, BS,very disappointing ,but, Thank You for Your time, You will be notified of Our decision in November. (P.S. Have You ever considered going into used car sales? I think You and Willie demonstrate a real talent for that line of work).
Harley , MUW, CubFan and all the other knuckledraggers,,,,,,,,,your convention image was a senile bed-head has been celebrity speaking incoherently to an empty seat for an empty suit carrying an empty briefcase of ideas.
Your speakers were dull and spouting lies since proven as such. Your delegates and America at home were bored ,,,,,and no bounce, Your convention and your party were a failure last week
The DNC kicked your azz this week and we look forward to Romneys incessant whining and flip-flopping as he plays defense til November
Romney has No Core, Ryan is a liar and they have NO SOLUTIONS. All you have left is your hateful declinist base. Romney just lost the independent vote tonight. The right is going down in defeat AGAIN and the stench of their desperation and hate is turning off America
Your move Core-less Wonder
Obama/Biden 2012
This was basically the type of speech you hear at the State of the Union. A shopping list of wishes but no plan on how to get to the store or pay for anything once you get there. Mr. Obama chided the RNC for not setting out plans, but this speech contained absolutely no substance and no details. Not even the outlines of a road map. And for a guy that says he is so concerned about the poor, he didn't talk at all about getting people out of poverty and off of welfare and food stamps. And he didn't explain how legalizing millions of illegals will help Americans struggling to find jobs when they have to compete against millions of legalized illegals. As the nation has come to know, all too well, Obama is long on rhetoric and woefully short on substance.
Jim...I am a republican...Ive voted republican in every election since the 70s except the last 2.....The minute Bush 2 lied to our faces and the party defended him and covered up his mess, I voted against him. I would vote Repub again...and probably will at some point...But Romney is not the way to go...its the same story with a differnt player.
Ohio48, I've reviewed your past posts. All you do is offer support for Democratic policies and excoriate all things Republican. Like I said, the rest of the world is not as stupid as you think it is. You're arrogant to think we are.
BTW...multiple studies show that conservatives get their news and information from a much wider array of the political spectrum than liberals like you do, so you can save that tired "Fox News" dogma.
FORWARD! over the cliff you damn fools.....
If you believe what Obama is telling you then believe what he said 4 years ago and vote him out of office, after all that is what he told you to do.
If you believe Clinton then you know that Obama is still in the process of destroying the country. If you take off your party blinders you can see that he his purposely leading the country to ruin, thus fulfilling the dream of his father. Boiling it down to basics, what has he done to help the economy grow? Did his $800 billion keep the unemployment rate below 8% as he promised? Is our economy in better shape because he has increased the federal debt from under $10 trillion to over $16 trillion in less than 4 years? Is it putting 46% of Americans on some sort of the public dole? Is it increasing the rate at which our social security system is going bankrupt by reducing employee contributions by nearly 1/3? Did throwing over one-half billion dollars at Solyndra help our economy? Has making it more difficult to drill new wells in this country and putting on more onerous regulations on the coal industry, causing more of them to shut down and putting people out of work all the while funding oil exploration and drilling in other countries helped to secure our future?
These seem to be questions that I and others ask and no one seems to be willing to answer. The only logical conclusion is that libs have the same dream as Obama's dad, to destroy America and bring it to it's knees. It'd be a lot more palatable if we were fighting Muslims trying to blow us up. But, to watch Americans role over and let our President and Pelosi and Reid, etc. do this without firing a shot is, well, there are no words that can describe it. We can't afford 4 more years of Obama and we can't afford 4 more years of RINOs who are content to be playing the game and fail to see the severity of the crisis the US is facing. Of course, if you could allay my fears, then please feel free to do so.
JediPastorYoda . . . (I so hope you are a programmer to have such a name!)
Who are you to judge me and my mind? I welcome a civil discourse and you have already judged me so that isn't going to happen.
There is nothing "too bad" about me. I live my life, I post my thoughts and I don't call out others on their posts because they make me afraid. You, sir, have done just that. Own it.
The Federal Bailout That Saved Mitt Romney
Government documents prove the candidate's mythology is just that
Harley Chic
HC, we both know Barrack Hussein doesn't do anything unless it benefits him. Being with his poverty stricken brother wouldn't be much of a photo-op. And we all know that Conservatives are much more charitable and caring than Liberals.
But then again, Liberals are VERY good at walking around through life with their hands out. I was surprised that the mob at the DNC could stop long enough to applaud.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Nice to see JimSpencehas come over to the side of the rest of us Real Americans. :-)
Now he just needs to figure out which party stands on this side and which on the other.
Too bad they're not smart enough to understand what they're watching:
From the Christian Science Monitor
Im loving Harley as representative of the Teabagger 'Declinists'.
Sorry Harley, we won tonight. Your pessimism just isn't working anymore. We are moving forward. Pessimism is for cowards. Your a coward and a chronic malcontent. After awhile the Debby Downer routine gets old...your there. I find the Teabaggers cheering for bad job numbers even more evidence of this point.
If your candidate doesn't have any solutions besides tax breaks, then you will be a LOSER...throwing rocks at the quarterback...from the bench
Romney has NO CORE and NO SOLUTIONS. He cant even give respect to the military....not even mentioning Afhghanistan. Shame. The GOP has lost the national security mantle. Obama owns it.
Obama/Biden 2012
I see all the people shouting that "Obama has lied! Throw his butt out on the street" line, so I won't add any farther to that.
The fact here kids, is that whether it's Obama or Romney, they are professional politicians and therefore professional liers. You can throw some web site up there with that "Obama Promisses meter", but it's easy enough to juggle numbers around and make them come out the way you want them to. That's just propaganda. Want some truth? Try searching the last four years of Taxes. How much you as a working person (or non working person..doesn't matter) have been paying. The middle class? Our taxes have gone up at a steady rate. Not the rate mind you, the amount that you pay. 2008 filing single rate based on a salary of $36,000 to 57,657, 25% of the amount over $36,000 + 4481.25 (marginal). 2012 filing single rate based on a salary of $34,000 to 57,657, 25% of the amount over $34,000 +$4,867.50. How about you you Mister or Miss lower to lower middle class? Based on a salary range of $22,000 to $29,000 and range of $$29,001 to $36,000, 2006 single 15% of the amount over $22,00 or $29,000 (depending on your bracket)+$802.50 (that tax bracket has not changed since 2006...but wait) 2012 based on the same salary ranges, 15% of the amount over $22,000 or $34,000 +870. The Lower Middle class tax bracket did increase in 2009, The last time it changed was 2006. These are amounts that you should expect to pay. No, your rate did not change but your marginal did!
Oh, by the way...How about you Mister or Miss Upper class? Salary range $164,550 to $357,700, $40,052.25 of the amount over $164,550 + 33% in 2008 (Not too bad, but most of your income is capital gains and I really did not want to go there. This is for the working Upper Class slob). As opposed to (and get this kids, their bracket changed) $178,650 to $388,350, $43,482.50 + 33% of the amount over $178,650.
Where was the tax cut you spoke about in your speech? Was it for the Upper Class wage earner when you moved the tax bracket up? At least the ones on the top had to pay $3,430.25 while us middle class only went up $386.25 and the lower and lower middle went up $67.50...but there's more of us then there are of them, isn't there? Well, good on you (I suppose)
Did the Repubs have any real answers? No! They don't have any real plans except how to make us afraid of it and keep us blaming someone else for it (Iraq? Anyone?)
That's just one of many things that I saw in our President's speech. But again, professional politician...they lie. It's just the nature of the beast. Best advice I ever got and can give? Write in your vote for your favorite cab driver or wait staff. They're the people who should be running this country, not some lawyer.
What you call 'obstructing' is what they were elected to do. The stimulus failed and the reasons given were that it wasn't BIG enough. No mention of who and where that stimulus money went. Shoring up pensions for state public sector unions and failing green energy companies.
Neither man running for office has come up with a concrete and viable action plan. I'm not thrilled with Romney, I'm not thrilled with the republican stance on a lot of things. Were the economy and our financial house in order, I probably would write in Ron Paul, however, Obama has proven his ideology with his actions and we cannot allow him to 'practice' more with the nation.
I will vote for Romney, give him the chance that folks gave Obama in 08. Obama is an ideologue, he repeats himself and does the same things over and over and his primary activity seems to be increasing the scope and reach of government. Romney isn't my first choice by a long shot, however, I'm not one to fall for the cult of celebrity either. Obama is supported by those who are either seeking more government handouts, more government control and they are pushing agendas that are financially disastrous.
Republicans aren't much better, their social policies are beyond tiresome as are their stances and attitudes towards the environment. I was hoping for a real leader to step forward, but the corporate controlled media had their marching orders, the status quo must be kept and once again, the choice is two puppets. I know the Obama puppet, I hope the Romney puppet will make like JFK, however, look what happened to him.
Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study
Right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than left-wingers, and people with low childhood intelligence tend to grow up to have racist and anti-gay views, says a controversial new study.
Conservative politics work almost as a 'gateway' into prejudice against others, say the Canadian academics.
Crucially, people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics.
Social status also appears to play no part.
The study, published in Psychological Science, claims that right-wing ideology forms a 'pathway' for people with low reasoning ability to become prejudiced against groups such as other races and gay people.
Left-wingers tend to be more open-minded says the survey - Democrats voted in first black U.S. president Barack Obama. But right-wing ideology forms a pathway for prejudice - Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney, pictured right, was glitter-bombed yesterday by gay-rights activists because of his views
'Cognitive abilities are critical in forming impressions of other people and in being open minded,' say the researchers.
'Individuals with lower cognitive abilities may gravitate towards more socially conservative right-wing ideologies that maintain the status quo.
'It provides a sense of order.'
The study, by academics at Brock University in Ontario, Canada, used information from two UK studies from 1958 and 1970 , where several thousand children were assessed for intelligence at age 10 and 11, and then asked political questions aged 33.
The 1958 National Child Development involved 4,267 men and 4,537 women born in 1958.
The British Cohort Study involved 3,412 men and 3,658 women born in 1970.
The paper analysed large UK studies which compared childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood across more than 15,000 people.
The authors claim that people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html#ixzz25l1ECPQZ
Uh, no. In a democratic system, majority rule is the law of the land.
In other words, "elections have consequences".
The problem is that the GOP decided to co-opt the government for themselves, be damned to the consequences.
That's treason, not democracy.
@Maw
You might want to do more research on SCYTL before sounding like you know something big and mysterious. The states determine how votes are tallied. And while some states have contracts with SCYTL, it's not a federal deal. SCYTL's subsidiary that some jurisdictions use makes software that aids in vote counting. It's hardly outsourcing. Certainly no more than calling your driving outsourced because you drive a foreign brand of transportation.
Also please show the federal source that lists a SCYTL principal as a contributor to the Obama campaign.
I'd bet you became an expert on SCYTL through a bogus (hoax) email you received.
RealAmericansFirst, good thing I don't watch Fox then.
BTW, I took the sample test and got all 11 correct. I'll note though that it looked like it was written directly by an Obama administration official. I'm not surprised there were no questions like "The 2009 stimulus was sold as a shovel-ready infrastructure bill. What percentage of the money was spent on the nation's infrastructure: A) 70%, B) 40%, C) less than 15%." The results may have been a bit different if they had asked a more balanced set of questions.
Hate is not going to win the election. Neither is your desperate and impotent insults. The conservative 'Declinists' are turning off the political middle. The Debbie Downer Teabuggerers are upset that their core-less candidate has nothing but an empty chair, an empty suit and an empty briefcase of ideas.
I know it sucks that the DNC just kicked your ass this week. I know it sucks for you that your candidate is a flip-flopper and his running mate is a liar. I know it sucks that with NO SOLUTIONS, your party is relegated to lying buying the election,, birther banter and disenfranchising voters.
But that's YOUR problem .........my path is clear, I'm voting for Obama. I don't want to go back to the 1950s.
Or the 1860's!
Vote for America's future - not its past.
Obama/Biden 2012
RealAmericansFirst, funny that the findings in the old study you quote is in direct opposition to the newer studies showing the wider array of information sources for conservatives. After all, that would indicate less of a "clear path" mentality and more openness to new information for conservatives than liberals. Perhaps some things have changed over the past 40 years, huh?
What is our President's new plan to fix the economy? Why do we need a new plan? What about the old plan that our President promised would have worked by now? What about the more than 5 trillion dollars that the federal government has borrowed under Obama's administration? What is the plan for paying this money back and how much will it end up costing the tax payers?
@RealAmericansFirst
I have been waiting on that Rolling Stone article to gain some traction....
Romney was bailed out and told the FDIC (money owed to taxpayers BTW...) to go screw themselves is a story that needs to be told far and wide...
Republicans who blame Democrats for all the countries ills really need to see for themselves how Romney and his slimy cronies work
RealAmericansFirst
The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press recently posted the results of a survey on political knowledge, broken out by age, education level, gender, and perhaps most intriguingly, political affiliation. Not only did "Republicans fare substantially better than Democrats on several questions in the survey," Pew says, but that's "typically the case in surveys about political knowledge."
http://www.people-press.org/2012/04/11/what-the-public-knows-about-the-political-parties/#partisan-differences-in-knowledge
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
I really enjoy reading some of these posts and the apparent memory loss or selective memory over the course of the last 20 years. I can't believe people twist, distort, or flat out have it wrong when it comes to dates and events. It makes today's problems all the more clear because politicians see the same misinformation as well and figure it into their plan to fool as many people as possible. They succeed in doing it. Now after RNC and the DNC I have to say the DNC seemed to touch more on looking forward and the RNC kept looking backwards, why? I don't have that answer. I do remember the past 4 yrs as being the worst performance from congress that I can recall and I can't hold the President responsible for Congres and the school ground antics that took place and I don't mean any one thing in particular, but the one thing that sticks out the most is holding the people who needed an unemployment check to eat, pay a utility bill, make a rent or mortgage payment hostage for a tax break extension. Like after 10 years of GWB tax breaks meant more than helping Americans who lost their job of no fault of their own. We really sunk to a new all time low in America. I will still wait till the very last day to make up my mind before I vote in Nov. but I will remember why we elected Obama and what has gone on in the past 4 yrs. and who did the most damage and who really wants the best for America.
Peace to all and God Bless America
He wants four more years to NOT do what he promised to do in the past four years? Time to move one and let someone else give it a shot. Not sure this country can take four more years of his back peddling, godlessness, throwing people under the bus so that he can have his agenda and take care of his own, abandonment of the promises he made the last time and never fulfilled, etc. he had his chance. He lied and screwed up. Time to move on.
Exactly.
Things are better than they were 4 years ago and are going to get even better in the future. I'm proud to be an American with a strong leader who is respected in the rest of the world.
As is typical of people who cannot think for themselves, you who support Obama are caught up in his polished speeches and forget to look at his record. And like I said in another post, most of you were in diapers when Clinton demolished the presidency and embarrassed us in front of the entire world with Watergate and his Lewinsky situation. Not to mention the impeachment attempt. Yet Clinton is now a big hero in your eyes because you do not know how it was when he was in office. And now you want to repeat the lies and broken promises Obama gave us for the past four years. Learn to think for yourselves. Look past the speeches and at his record. Better yet, listen closely and realize that he is truly saying ... that his agenda is for himself and he really doesn't care about the rest of us.
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it wont matter how much you dislike Republicans, or how much you love the annointed " o". If something is not done to stop the trillions of dollars (what- 16+ now) the idiot in charge NOW... promised 4 years ago to stop, middle, lower, or upper class won't matter, this whole country will be third world
..... you don't have to be a smart democrat to figure that out, just one without their head stuck up their A$$. thank you very little.
RealAmericansFirst
Hmmmm, funny isn't it how you Libbies keep insisting you are so "FOREWARD", yet you dwell on the past about what was “inherited” or what Reagan did.
We Conservatives could sit here and destroy the abysmal failures of Jimmy "Malaise" Carter and Billy "Mayonnaise on the Blue Dress" Clinton, but we'd rather focus on the future as all your sacrosanct entitlements and Progressive ideologies are collapsing our economy.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Lovely speeches, but what is our reality? A Hollywood movie makes me feel good too, but after it is over, i have to face the reality of my life unfortunately
I can watch Bambi get eaten by a lion, and then I may shed some tears...it is very sad. But I cant change the reality of the world
I just realized, republicans are intent on fighting the civil war all over again, wow
I noticed O'bama mentioned God an awful lot....interesting. Does he have his own God? One with differing views? Or is he just an actor on the political stage, grasping at your emotions like every other politician? Where the hell is Jerusalem anyway?
You better hope not...quite a few of them have guns! Maybe Holder can help you guys out a bit!
Samantha,
Talking about records. Just what kind of record are republicans running on, the wonderous Bush years ?
Two words! Responsibility!
Tell me libs, what did O'bama offer as a promise for his next 4 years?
Kornfed,
I think the ammo will be money this time, starving a man to death is just as effective as bullets, but a whole lot more degrading.
Specifics please....
I'm not an emotional guy...A beautifully delivered speech does not get me wet. I want results. Give me some examples so that i may hope for a better second term....
"Hopeful" = "Desperate"
Korn,
It seems that "God" only suits Obama when he is looking for votes. I mean what other reason would they have to change their platform to incorporate "God" in it weren't for their little pollsters telling them that they need every vote, so we better play it safe and pander to those that think the Dems believe in religion. It's no different than pandering to the Latino population with this executive order for amnesty. You can certainly tell it's an election year...
Vote Romney!
tap...
They think he is a made up cartoon,,,and he may very well be. None of us know. But they dont have the courage to officially say so, because it will cost them the election. People just love a good show. Stand by what you believe proudly, not to gain a political advantage.
'Hopeful' Obama asks for four more years
He can ask...but he ain't gettin' it!!!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012! Vote against Obama like your life depends on it!
Yeah, if you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan for 2012!
Give me a real scenario in which you think they will give the rich more money? This should be interesting. Spare me the emotional outburst.
Harley - higher taxes than where? Please, do tell. Higher than Somalia? Germany? Antarctica? Santa Clause in the North Pole. Antigua? Please explain how these crushing taxes are the root of your problems compared to any of these countries. Please tell us how these crushing taxes are making us less than any of these countries.
One has to love the GOP/TP outlook .. they want to be the most powerful country in the world, and then skip out on the payments to be there - right Harley? Oops, that question will go unanswered, that Biker Chic is out enjoying her Harley on the road ways WE payed for to build and maintain.
Kornfed...
Like you, I'm waiting...
BTW, I like your posts...seem to be independent/libertarian
Am I on the right track?
Kornfed-Are you an idiot or do you just play one on forums? Give you a scenario? Are you freakin' kidding me?
Here is something for you to think about. This is something you'll never hear a Republican say, "Well, trickle down didn't work. Lets try trickle up!"
Tax breaks to the wealthy. What is it you don't understand?
Again:
If you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan 2012! :)
Asimplicity1...
OK, I'll bite...yes, I think the rich need more money...LOL!
ABO 2012!
I'd like to share a few excerpts from an essay written for the Daily KOS called "A Voice from the 1%":
Gosh Korn - you wanted it .. here it is. Are you following your candidates platform? That is just one of many. Are you going to continue your dispute that Romney isn't giving tax cuts to the wealthy?
Cut the corporate rate to 25 percent
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/tax
-Well there you go :)
Vote Romney/Ryan for 2012!
ASimplicity1...
Boring! Try again...LOL!
BTW...
-Well there you go :)
Vote Romney/Ryan for 2012!
Thank you, I will. And I'll talk quite a few to as well...
Just remember...most important!
ABO 2012!
Unoriginal....try again
-That's it? That's all you got?
-Funny how this answer matches Romney's huh? LOL :)
-The real funny thing about that is, I don't think Romney can do much better.
Talk about boring. Ever watch him give a speech? It's like watching paint dry.
ty, and yes,,,if I am to have a label, that would fit me best hehe
I don't really care who wins the white house. That said, as a betting man, the odds need to be closer for any good wagering man to make a substantial profit. As of tonight Obama went well OVER the 2:1 favorite. Come on, GOP! DO SOMETHING!... LIE SOME MORE!... EVEN BIGGER ONES!
Your criteria is all wrong
Kornfed...
I like your approach...wish I had more patience with liberals!
Again, like your posts...they sure don't!
Roadkill...
Now, that's funny!
Your statement is true yet false. Inflation and population growth insures that in a few years revenues and taxes paid increase for all tax groups but revenue grows much slower for those on the top if they were left alone. There's a reason Reagan had to implement tax increases that recovered half of what his 70% to 50% top rate cost. Clearly if it increased revenue he wouldn't have needed to. If the 1% paid 20% more at the end of 8 years after the rate was cut from 50% to 28% the gullible like to pretend the tax cut caused it but without the cut they might have paid 35% to 40% or more.
This article pretty much says it all:
Asimplicity1...
Hahahahaha...coming from MSNBC...or maybe the Huffington Post??
You libbies just kill me...LOL!!
ABO 2012!
KornFed .. you ever going to answer my question? Or just walk on by? Must be another Harley Chic, using our paid for entitlements to ignore the obvious.
Yeah, if you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan for 2012!
I only read one or two sentences of drivel....Give me the cliff notes
Ever heard of lowering the tax rates while at the SAME time...removing tax loopholes??
NAh, libs only see one half of the equation!
ABO 2012!
Hey RedDev, why even care? Look at his and cantawhatever's posts. It's like trying to teach a rock to swim. They're not the sharpest knives in the drawer. They are more like spoons :)
Let them keep replying, if they can't turn people Democrat..nobody can :)
Damn Asimplicity...
Your name says it all!
Yes, the rich need to be richer...when they employ you, you should be grateful. But as a typical liberal, you want the same pay for 10% of the work and risk...pathetic!
ABO 2012!
Yeah, if you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan for 2012!
ASimplicity...
Hehehehe...I will, thank you
Conservative LANDSLIDE coming...just like 2010!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!
You are even unoriginal compared to yourself
Yeah, if you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan for 2012!
Hahahahaha.
Cant ake no More - what is the problem here? Do you find this funny?
Do you not get that high taxes during times of paying off debt were extolled by the rich, the middle class and everybody else? Or do you prefer the line that the rich never participated in paying off the debt. History tells us the truly wealthy, are willing to participate. It is the low-life almost rich that aren't willing to pay their fare share.
Red Devil PS...
Oh well, life's a b*tch...government shouldn't spend so damn much!
If ya ain't got it...don't put it on your plastic...
Oh, BTW, keep with the name calling...just shows your intelligence level...typical liberal, I tell ya! LOL
Haha, I'm telling you Red, they are just kids. Waste of time. They are going to vote the way their daddy told them to vote. Any real issues are beyond them:
Asimplicity: The problem with giving prolific tax cuts that mostly benefit the rich is the fact that the debt in which all Americans are responsible does not change during this change. Basically, if you cut the taxes on the rich the debt remains the same. The only place that money can come from is the middle-class. That is why Romney's proposal will raise taxes, on average Middle America, by two-thousand dollars.
Kornfed: Hey Asimplicity, I just farted. hahahahaha
Cantakenomore: Oh that was a good one Kornfed. I love your posts. Meet me after work down by the barn again?
Kornfed: Google smurk blatter-spanger!
Cantakenomore: Wow! Well said again!
See, let them talk for their party. I know I'm happy when they do :)
RedDevPS
Sorry, I missed your post. I am not represented as far as I am concerned. How do you think Romney will give tax cuts to the rich? Give me a plausible scenario.
Yeah, if you think the rich need more money vote:
Romney/Ryan for 2012!
Amusing, but not surprising Asimplicity. Now that is original!
Oh really .. where was that attitude when two wars and Medicare Part D was put on plastic. That was ok? But now, when we most need to rely on plastic, it isn't ok? Please explain. Would love to hear those medieval ideals on how to run a household budget vs. a government budget. Gosh, aren't they the same. Loves me some Monday morning quarter-backs that have no idea what they are talking about.
Asimplicity - agreed. I've had the enjoyment of knocking more that one of these idiots down the corporate ladder. Then they cry, they promise lawsuits, they promise disability claims, and then they are minimal inconsequential asses. It is such fun watching these tidbits participate in an empty goal. I've always thought peons deserve what peons get.
The President said that he would present a new plan for the economy. She speech included a lot of old platitudes that sound good but mean very little. The only plan that I heard was hoping that things get better. That is no plan. What is our President's new plan to fix the economy? Why do we need a new plan? What about the old plan that our President promised would have worked by now? What about the more than 5 trillion dollars that the federal government has borrowed under Obama's administration? What is the plan for paying this money back and how much will it end up costing the tax payers? The President said that when our troops come back home in 2014 that we will start paying down our debt which means that we will have to start running a surplus. The President promised that the 2012 federal deficit will not exceed 229.27 billion dollars but that is not even close to happening. The President needs of show us how we are going to start running a surplus in 2014.
Wow..the first 500 posts are from the same 18 people! Cubsfan and Jimspence, how many times are you gonna post your opinions? We got it the first 12 times, and Jim..learn to spell our Presidents name at least.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!!
OBAMA is fullfilling the DREAM of every Latino. One day, America will be a backward third world country run by drug cartels.
CANADA is next!
Give you four more years Mr. Obama? What for?
So you can finish destroying what little hope there is and keeping the rest of the American People's change?
Thanks, but no thanks.
Anyone want to explain why OBUMMER-Biden gave a Finnish Car firm $500,000,000 to build competing electric cars in Finland after they promised Biden to use a factory in his home state Delaware to build the cars and use American workers?
Can OBUMMER produce his high school, college and law school transcripts? If not why not? If he wants to be elected, we the people who pay his salary want to see what we are getting. Also we want to know who paid for all this education and we want to see his pre law school test scores.
If he got scholarships and and why did he get them?
Who paid him during his high school, college and law school breaks, summers and expenses.
We know Romney worked as a security guard at Chrysler. What did Obummer do during his breaks and did he file irs reports on his income?
How much money did he get and if it was over $10,000 did he file reports on that money as required by law? Lots of questions too about his Pastor Wright.
Why did Obummer sit in the front pew and allow Pastor Wright to blame America for the 9/11 attacks?
Why did Obummer allow Pastor Wright to Jew Bait?
Why did Obummer help finance a 1.2 million dollar mansion for Pastor Wright?
Why did Obummer give Pastor Wright a government job and refuse to reveal his salary and his duties and refuse to reveal if Pastor Wright ever show up for his specially made job?
Why did Obummer's wife in a public interview say that Obummer's mother was definitely single when Obummer was born?
Why was Obummer's birth specially publicized in all the Hawaiin newspapers?
Why did Obummer's mother immediately after Obummer's birth move to Washington State and never see or live with Obummer's father?
Why did Obummer's mother immediately move back to Hawaii after Obummer's father leave Hawaii?
Why was Obummer's father wanted by immigration before Obummer was born?
There are a thousand more questions that Obummer refuses to answer.
poodlefan007 These are similar to his 130 initiatives that were not passed when he was state senator a lot of words and no bite.
Ask Obummer why the federal budget has $3 billion dollars specially designed for unions.
Ask Obummer why $3.9 billion dollars have been wasted on federal renewable energy programs he helped and failed.
Ask Obummer why China, Japan, Norway and England are spending billions on the renewable cheap hydrogen fuel and Obummer has cut the research budget into hydrogen fuel 90%
Ask Obummer why Norway has hydrogen cars that do not pollute and has hydrogen service stations?
Ask Obummer why he is against clean burning, unlimited hydrogen as a fuel!
Ask Obummer why he did not in 2008 send advisers to the American and Canadian companies to work with them on the oil pipeline from Canada to the U.S. so that the final plan would be automatic for his signature?
Why did he wait until the last minute to cancel that plan to supply America with thousands of jobs?
Ask Obama why he threatened Boeing for their S.C. plant and 5000 jobs?
Ask Obama why he refuses to analysis the successful private schools that send 100% of graduating seniors to 4 year universities?
Ask Obama why he took a 17 day vacation and did spend one day answering a court summons in Georgia? Ask Obama if he believes himself above the law?
Ask Obummer why he toured Gila Bend Solar Energy plant and claim it as his own success when it was created and built before he became president.
Ask Obummer what he did for black males besides double their unemployment rate from 10% in December 2008 to 19.1 % in December 2011.
Ask Obummer what he has done to promote family unity in black families. Two parent black families have decreased from 75% to 45%.
Ask Obummer why 60% of black children live in a one parent home and what has he done about it.
Obummer talks and does nothing.
Ask Obummer why he has not asked congress to repeal the 20 special laws for unions that are basically illegal for any business or company?
And while you are at it, ask Obummer why he hasn't had his relatives who are in this country illegally deported?
From an avowed famous democrat, Andy Williams: "Don't like him at all. I think he wants to create a socialist country. The people he associates with are very Left-wing. One is registered as a Communist. Obama (Barack Obama) is following Marxist theory. He's taken over the banks and the car industry. He wants the country to fail."
I love how those on the right refuse to accept the fact that the republicans whole agenda since Obama took office was to put party before country and obstruct and distort the truth. I remember when they use to put aside their differences for the good of the country in order to get things done.
I love how those on the right refuse to accept the fact that trickle down economics DID NOT work the last 10 years and how the middle class has shrunk as well as our paychecks. I remember when the party use to be for the people and fought for everyone to achieve the "American Dream"
I love how those on the right can sit idly by and listen to the rhetoric that and tax increase will hurt small businesses and the "job creators". BUT instead of targeting those that DO create jobs with tax breaks (like Obama has) the want to extend those tax cuts to those in the 1% in which 95% DO NOT create jobs. What was the last job Romney, Ryan, Reid, McConnell, Norquist, etc....created? Yet they want and additional tax cut.
I love how those on the right love to say that we need less government in our lives YET advocate for government to create laws that tell women what kind of health care they can/can't get, who we can/can't marry, what can/can't be used to vote. Kind of ironic don't you think?
I love how those on the right claim that the current President is ruining our country but can't produce on fact/example to support their claim. The fact that we have had positive job growth in the private sector for the past 29 months(yes we are losing jobs in the public sector which are not really job losses but jobs that are phased out when someone quits or retires which saves the government money), the highest Dow level this country has ever seen, more people re-entering the job market(which is keeping unemployment at the level it currently is), kind of tells you his policies and regulations ARE working.
I love how those on the right are quick to say the President has failed us when in reality CONGRESS has failed us as they have refused to introduce ANY type of good legislation that would get this country moving forward again.(Remember Congress is the only body of government that can introduce and pass policy NOT the President.
I have more but I'm sure most of you get the point by now. Don't worry I have some for those on the left as well just the right is a little more extreme right now which scares me as an independent. Once those on the right can admit to the failed promises of the GOP instead of just saying Obama is a failure, THEN we can truly have an educated discussion and maybe, just MAYBE turn this country around.
Hey, at least there was symbolism. Romney didn't even have that, unless you count the magic underwear...
How can anyone trust Bill Clinton's words when he cheated on Hilary and lied about it. Clinton is pitiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it how the democrats can blame the republicans when the democrats had control of both houses in the first two years and still refused to introduce ANY type of GOOD legislation ( shovel ready jobs don't count) that would get this country moving forward again. You see the irony, don't you?
Exactly, which is why we needed to vote those democrats out, because even when the President had control of BOTH houses, he couldn't get anything done.
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/17/13339975-jobless-rate-rose-in-44-states-last-month?lite
Jobless rate rose in 44 states in July
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/28/13526393-consumer-confidence-lowest-in-nine-months#comments
Consumer confidence lowest in nine-months
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/30/13567396-economy-runs-neither-hot-nor-cold-but-not-just-right-either?lite
Economy is just so-so
http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/05/13682742-report-15-of-americans-on-food-stamps?lite
15% of Americans on food stamps
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/03/number-of-americans-on-snap_n_1074344.html
Number of Americans on snap
Good enough for you?
In this speech the President presented his new plan to fix the economy. What I heard were mostly worn out platitudes and some of the same old goals. He wants 100,000 math and science teachers. That's great, just give me a position in my local area so I do not expend to much fossil fuel. I have a masters in engineering, decades of experience and more than 30 publications in the open literature. I am willing to work over the Internet.
He talked about bold experimentation but so far none of it has paid off. The President said that when the troops come home in 2014 we will balance the budget and start paying down the debt. So in defence to White House predictions we should have a budget surplus by 2015. The White House needs to correct their projections and get the CBO on with this. The President plans to get this done through hope. In other words the President hopes that this will take place. That is his plan.
Yes, Dem Convention - a shining example of modern America with wonderful speeches! Obama accomplishments featuring "Osama bin Laden is dead, and General Motors is alive"
Republican Convention - freak show full of lies, missteps, and sideshows including robot women, 400 lb fat men, and an old geezer talking to an empty chair!!
Gee, I wonder which one is better?????????????????
Obama 2012 - the only sane choice!
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i didn't listen to The president or vice Presidents speaches. Why ? Because i heard them 4 years ago but with an additonal line.. "Oh it is gonna take me longer than I promised" Be patient it coming, wait for it wait for it wait for it. you know what it ain't coming under Obama's leadership IMO. I voted for him. Yep I did.I stand by that vote yet today. I made a choice and right or wrong I will admit to it. What i won't do however is vote for Obama again. This country can't afford to "wait" any longer. we can't afford the way Obama cuts the deficit.I think he has the graph upside down because the dbt has nearly doubled not been cut in half as he promised.
Obama does not bring hope to America only words. He is a very good speaker and can make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.If you look to the real results however you will see that his only real gift is the gift of gab. Actions speak louder than words. Half a million american auto workers LOST THEIR JOBS after Obama took office. Over 23 MILLION americans are still UNEMPLOYED 4 years after Obama took office. Our debt is near double over when he took over.Imigrants are able to come and go as they please under this president. He actually increased our presence in Afganistan rather than ending the wars over there as promised. Obama gave BILLIONS to wallstreet bankers to bail them out but left out the key reason for giving them the money. He failed to demand thay help peole stay in their homes. Obama still doesn't get why the auto industry and housing industry are suffering. he still blames the housing industry for it all. It started with unfair trade agreements that sent our good jobs offshore. With out good jobs we can't buy cars and we can't make mortgage payments. Sying the housing crash caused this mess is like trying to borrow your way out of debt. It doesn't add up.
Obama has proven to me he does not have the skills to overcome party gridlock and actually causes much of it with his finger pointing. He has proven to me he does not understand what is really wrong and has no clue how to fix it.
In 2008 I voted for hope and change. I do the same in 2012. I sure hope we change Presidents . Well written speaches will not fix this mess.
Someone should have told the president that the Eastwood skit doesn't work without Eastwood
To all you right wingers who have nothing good to say about anything: "take two tax cuts, roll back some regulations, and call me in the morning" lol.
That statement is one of the million reasons I will be voting for Obama/Biden 2012.
I don't think it's that people don't remember, I think on this board it's that may of these people weren't alive or perhaps aware. It's pretty clear from many of the comments we have quite a few kids shouting over and over for attention. I'd like to think adults would be a bit more measured in their responses and we would get less "I Know you are, but what am I" moments.
And I think people aren't always paying attention. Maybe during the Bush years they were in college working at a service job on campus that wasn't impacted by what went on with the economy. Maybe they had a new baby or two that kept them up and took all of their time.
And now, they wander by a television blaring some nonsense that is a flat out lie, they don't know. They weren't paying attention. Their family is conservative or liberal or Christian or Muslim and they believe whatever crazy thing their family has snapped together.
If you read what is written in many of these posts it's surprising we aren't worse off than we are. Logic doesn't play into most of them on both sides of the equation. The rhetoric is ridiculous. People cherry pick facts, out and out lie(they don't realize this of course), quote things years out of date and just pick things off sites like wikipedia which is great for stuff like what is that bird in my backyard but miserable for anything that actually involves a hot topic.
The idea of the Electoral College was to stop the great unwashed masses from doing anything dangerous to the Republic. It wasn't as many believe to help count the votes but to control the irrationality of the electorate.
Reading many of these comments, I think we should give people a sanity test before they can vote. It would be a simple one. If you can say the name of the party you oppose without screaming, ranting or foaming at the mouth you can vote.
I suspect it would be a much shorter election cycle.
If he wants a second term he should have done something with the first one.
Obama need 4 more years to destroy the American values. Obama want 4 more years to finish his war against religion, Obama need 4more years to destroy the Idea of American exeptionalism to replace for American anti-Colonialism, Obama need 4 more years to change our free market and capitalism for foreign ideologies that will destroy our country socialism/Marxism, Obama need 4 more years to destroy Americans corporations, Obama need 4 more years to unionize private sector, Obama need 4 more years of illegal immigration to increase their Latino base, Obama need 4 more years of more flexibility to give up to Russians our nuclear capabilities, Obama need 4 more years to make deep changes to our Constitution because he beleave is too old , unfair and crafted by whites slave owners. Stop Obama before he destroy the America we know , the America that our parents know, the America where our Ancestors choose to emigrate escaping from socialist and Communist regimes.
Romney Ryan 2012
I, like most other sane Americans, WILL NOT vote for ANY CANDIDATE who wants war with Iran or involvement in SYRIA or the Asian Pacific, or ANY OTHER asinine "spread democracy across the globe" missions.
Guess that X's out MITTENS, then, eh?? LOLOLOL!
RealAmericansFirst,
Sorry. Many posts to pick from, and you happen to be it.
#1.24 - Here are the jobs, :
This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:Job loss: Worst in 34 years
Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.
Here was last month's number from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July. Tomorrow's numbers look like they'll be even better.There's your choice.
The only way the GOP can win is LIE!
You left out the unemplyment rate. That 8.3% (or so) number? And the over 20,000,000 number.
#128 - Who WROTE all those earmarks, CubsFan?
Wouldn't be Ryan's House of Representatives, would it?
Ummm, Ryan's H of R didn't attain a majority until January of 2011. There just might have been a few Ds injecting earmarks.
#133 - Glass (D, VA) - Steagall (D, AL)
REPEALED by Gramm (R, TX) - Leach (R, IA) - Bliley (R, VA)
That occurred in 1999. The final vote for the repeal was 362-57 in the House and 90-8 in the Senate. Rather bi-partisan, I think.
Seems to me like you may have gone out for a pass, but came back incomplete.
Have a nice weekend.
F&B666
I pledge allegiance, to the Latinos of the United States of Mexico and to the dictator, who thinks he's god, Luis Gutierrez, one race known as LA RAZA, with tamales and burritos for all........if you're brown.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHoHoHoHo. Can you believe the POS mentioned Hope. HaHaHaHaHoHoHoHo. And then the moron said Change. HaHaHaHaHaHoHoHoHo. I thought I would fall of my chair. HaHaHaHaHaHoHoHoHoHaHaHaHaHaHGaHaHaHoHoHoHoHoHo
Forward? HHaHaHoHoHoHoHoHoHoHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHoHoHoHoHoHoHoHaHaHaHaHGaHaHaHaHoHoHoHoHoHoHoHo
What an idiot. Did he really believe anyone would fall for that crap again.
The POS is toast.
Jimmy Carter now comes in black.
NO MORE YEARS. END OF AN ERROR.
Sorry, you don't get a do-over. You blew it with your czars and vacations and golf- go back to Chicago where your buddies Rezko and Rahm buy your line of crap.
These conventions are nothing but pep rallies: They offer hype, smoke & mirrors, big promises, but no substance. Blah, blah, blah, sis boom bah!
All his firey-eyed speech did was to stir up a lot of nothing. Meanwhile, the national debt has rocketed up to $16 trillion and unemployment numbers are the worst with the fed ready to act. We're no better today than four years ago... no, worse.
And you want four more years of 'change you can count on"?
Seriously??? Those jobs numbers are like they are because every single Democrat since Roosevelt has saddled their Republican successor with an economy heading into a downturn. Look it up. Clinton...check. Carter...check. Johnson...check. Truman...check.
Meanwhile every Republican since Roosevelt -- except Bush -- has left their Democratic successor an economy headed into an upswing phase. Bush I....check. Ford...check. Eisenhower...check.
And who is cleaning up who's messes?
Some people find it easy to blame President Obama for a slowly-recovering economy, when we really should be blaming ourselves for letting all those Tea Party obstructionists into Congress in 2010. Those representatives we elected and/or failed to elect are the architects of the recovery.
The most important thing President Obama said in his speech last night, in my opinion:
"This election is not about me...it's about you."
He could not have been more right. The United States of America is a democracy. WE THE PEOPLE hold the reins! If we drop the reins, we have only OURSELVES to blame!
GET OFF YOUR BUTTS and VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN TO SAVE AMERICA!
"This election is not about me...it's about you."
This election is about ......me
This election us about my Marxist /Socialist ideology
This election is about my desire of create a big government
This election is about my desire to change our old Constitution
This election is about my desire to end with the Oil companies
This election is about to end the American Exeptionalism because I believe we are an Imperialist Country and I give my apology to the world ( Berlin 2008)
This election is about me , me me me not about you.
Wow...there is a lot of hate and negativity posted here. This is not the America where I grew up: a country where you could get a good education at your local public school, where no one threatened you with hell unless you said you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior, where you could be respected if you worked as a teacher, not reviled because you were in a teacher's union.
I grew up in a country where we spoke to each other and treated each other with respect, a country where the truth mattered, a country where our highest aspiration was to provide everyone with opportunity, not to be rich and famous, no matter what crime you committed to achieve that goal.
I grew up in a country where our elected officials were there to serve us, not themselves.
I will fight until my last breath to make sure all my fellow citizens, be they black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or whatever else are included in the greatest melting pot on earth, a country that has made a virtue of diversity, a country that is strong because we do what is right and just by our fellow man.
OBAMA/ BIDEN 2012
USA!!!!!
OfCourse1,
You make a excellent case in your post above and it ties exactly to my post as well. I can't belief so many people live life with blinders on and then hold one party to a higher standard than the party they support, have a cold and callous moral stand when the best faults they can quote are pointless. The debates will be the deal breaker as to who can best present the plan and "details" on how it can work for America as a whole or they will look no better than they do today. If I did my best to destroy programs I bet I could do a darn good job and have a high level of success like some in Congress and I'm not a career politician. I hold all of them to a much higher standard in Congress that we the taxpayers pay for. If I could I would hand out a fist full of pink slips. Have a wedding to prepare for God Bless All and have a great day.
It looks like more and more people are giving up HOPE. Thanks Mr. Obama
TeaTurds are the ruination of America. Take your Gestapo tactics and start some new country somewhere else Republicans... Somewhere where lies and dirty tricks are celebrated!!
The real America does things the honorable way!!!
TeaBaggers suck big time and lyin' Ryan/Romney are the biggest TeaBag suckers going...
"While governor of MA, Willard Romney left that state 47 out of 50 in job creation."
More myth-making by the Dems. MA averaged 47th during Romney's term as governor, but he brought them up to 30th by the end of his administration, not an insignificant feat, in light of MA's poor job-creation record in recent decades...
Barry sounds like every DEADBEAT boyfriend you see on TV.....
Come on Baby.... just give me another chance.... all I need is more time..... I can change.... it'll be better..... it wasn't my fault........
Cut the strings & RUN..... this one is NO GOOD..........
Wow... This is like the world's longest post...
Guys, it's just this simple.
Obama, did not honor every promise that he made. However, he did come through on a few things:
...and the list goes on... HE has been fulfilling a lot of his promises. He is working for the American people. What's everyone's beef? That we're all not employed with 100K a year jobs with houses we bought for 60K back to being worth 300K again? Do you really think that's coming back anytime soon.
I'll tell you what happened with Obama at the helm. We didn't sink into a great Depression where we had 25% unemployment and where the bottom fell out of the dollar.
What will we get with Romney in the office? We don't know. He won't say. All he gives is, "Just wait until we're in, THEN we'll tell you what we'll do for ya". I bet whatever it is will involve lots of Wall St. Perks, subsidies, and tax breaks for all his pals while they create the worlds largest corporate welfare state on this planet
Unhappy - So tell me what the republican's passed when they got control of the house after 2010?????
The debt debacle doesn't count....
So the President hopes that things will change. Change to what? The President has never said. There is no change in what the President told us four years ago except that the President seems less confident and is not offering up the promises he made 4 years ago.
Jobs, Mr. President jobs. That is suppose to be the Presdents number one prioriety. The speech was full of old goals and platitudes nothing about how to create jobs. The President would like the federal government to run a surplus by 2015 but apparently the President has no idea as to how that might be accomplished. The President promised that the 2012 federal deficit will not exceed 229.27 billion dollars but he has yet to tell the people how that is going to be accomplished.
For sure the President has enjoyed being our President and he would like to continue enjoying it for another 4 years at our expense.
I agree Layton, It would've been a Grand Slam, but there were no base runners because everbody was hitting home runs! I know the real deal, and these people were the real McCoy. I always feel like I'm watching something plastic when I watch Mitt. I was already decided, but this speech was meant to be inclusive and meant to get people out to VOTE.
He certainly swung the bat hard enough to hit a Grand Slam, but you have to actually hit the ball to get one of those, G-Dog.
He struck out. Hard.
"The Democrats say we should give President Obama time. I agree and think anywhere from twenty years to life would be appropriate."
~David Letterman
The President was right on regarding some of the major challenges we as a nation face.
In the speech, the President has demonstrated his good command of all the fundamentals that tends to win games, election or baseball.
TOUCH DOWN!!!!
Vice President Biden and President Obama, brought the house down!
Some of the best statements:
Biden:
"Romney says he is going to take a jobs tour. Since he's an outsourcer, he must be planning on making a foreign trip."
"Our service women and men should not have to fight a war, and when they return home fight for jobs, homes and medical care."
"The GOP says they will fix things, but they left out a lot of details about how they will do it."
Obama:
"My opponent will not promote the public sector, but he will promote the privileged sector."
"I will never turn Medicare into a voucher system forcing our seniors to pay thousands of dollars more for health care, so that millionaires can get more tax cuts."
"Climate change is not a joke, its not a hoax, its a real threat to our children's future."
"I will not let the oil companies dictate our energy policy."
"When the GOP sees regulations coming, their response is: take 2 TAX CUTS and call me in the morning."
"I need your help, I need your vote, Let's finish the job!"
Forward!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012!
I promise to have patience with the Republican posters here. Deep down they know the election is lost and will start the grieving process. This process has 5 steps:
1) Denial- seen in those posts of those who still predict a Romney victory.
2) Anger- many have never moved past this stage since 2008. Just remember their_hate is a testament to our strength!
3) Bargaining- that will show up in a little while. Show them compassion for they do not realize how pathetic they are.
4) Depression- that is when it will get very quiet in here.
5) Acceptance- few will come this far. Charlie Crist has shown them the way!
25walker...great posts....what a great speech!!!!!!
starsailing,
Thanks.
Yes, Biden and Obama gave great speeches!
After the election, no matter which corporate funded candidate wins, Romney or Obama, it's probably going to be war on the working class just like in Greece:
"….Yet starting with that April speech, Mr. Obama has come to adopt most of the major tenets supported by a majority of the commission's members, though his proposals do not go as far. He has called for cutting deficits more than $4 trillion over 10 years by shaving all spending, including for the military, Medicare and Social Security; overhauling the tax code to raise revenues and lower rates; and writing rules to lock in savings…"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/us/politics/obamas-unacknowledged-debt-to-bowles-simpson-plan.html?pagewanted=all
Take a look at what they are doing to Greece. They will do the same thing here, IF YOU LET THEM:
"…Moves to lengthen the workweek come after the release of an OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation) report revealing that the average Greek employee already works longer hours (2,017 hours per year) than in any other European country…"
EU, IMF demand lower wages, longer hours in Greece
By Stefan Steinberg
6 September 2012
Days before sending financial inspectors to Greece, the troika—the European Commission, European Central Bank, and International Monetary Fund—sent a letter to key ministries in Athens, demanding fundamental changes to Greek labour law.
The letter calls for frontal attacks on basic rights of the Greek working class and for drastic "reforms" in every aspect of working life. Amongst the proposals made in the letter are the following:
*Increased flexibility in work schedules, in particular an "increase in the number of maximum workdays to six days per week for all sectors".
*Decreasing the minimum period between work shifts to 11 hours and eliminating further restrictions on shift work.
*Slashing Greece's monthly minimum wage—already cut this year to €586, or US$736—and carrying out corresponding wage cuts in the private sector.
The letter cynically implies that these attacks, which entail new wage cuts and a drastic increase in working times, are necessary to create jobs: "Unemployment is too high, and policies are needed to prevent it from becoming structural."
In fact the current record level of 30 percent unemployment in Greece is a direct result of austerity measures imposed by the troika. Now the same bagmen for the international finance elite are demanding that the minimum wage be reduced further to a pittance. The aim is to force the army of unemployed in Greece to accept the most degrading of jobs paying poverty wages…
…This latest assault on the rights of the Greek working class is an integral part of plans to return across Europe to the working conditions that prevailed in capitalist countries in the nineteenth century. Last weekend the president of the European Parliament, Martin Schultz of Germany's Social Democratic Party, called for the setting up of special economic zones (SEZs) in Greece to attract investors with low or no taxes. The goal is to create conditions for the super-exploitation of workers that are common in Chinese and other East Asian SEZs….
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/sep2012/troi-s06.shtml
Ah screw being nice to the Republicans! They got owned, rode hard and put back in the barn sweaty. They didn't pack a lunch and they weren't taking notes. See you in 2016!
Al,
You are so kind and thoughtful.
Love your post. LOL
Losers are always the last to know it. Sorry Republicant party. You got served today. Really I have hoped that some of your party could actually hold to the ideals of the true Republican party. Separation between church and state. State rights over the patriot act. And Freedom for all citizens not a fascist state.
But now it seems the Dems have taken over that responsibility for you. LONG LIVE THE MIDDLE CLASS.
You know, Romney is right about one thing.
This election is like picking a football coach.
The old one got your team the death penalty by playing fast and loose with the rules.
Now you have a new one rebuilding your team.
And the old coach is running up and down the sidelines screaming, "Put me back in! I can win more games than he can!"
Your pick.
Every informed voter knows that Obama's primary goal is to bring about the destruction of our country via economic collapse and transform our great nation into a utopian welfare state. Here are some numbers that I thought voters should know...........
1 in 7 Americans are now on food stamps.........
1 million more Americans are now on disability under BO.........
the fastest growing component of federal spending is means tested welfare programs rather than SS or Medicare.........
the feds now operate 69 means tested welfare programs including 2 child care and 8 cash assistance programs..............
welfare spending under BO during his 1st 2 years is 2.5 times greater than any previous increase in federal welfare spending.........
in 2011, BO spent $694.3 billion on welfare spending ( the states spend 250 billion more)................
Obama's welfare spending is PERMANENT........and his budgets project 10.3 trillion spent on welfare over 10 years.........
each taxpaying household will have to pay 100,000 over 10 years to support BO's welfare plan................
in 2010...........taxpaying households paid $638/month in welfare costs......
the clincher..........under BO, more people are living in poverty in the US than in 50 years...........
Obama.................the welfare KING! ( BO creating more and more poverty each and every day)
That's what I call success!!!!!!
Women for Romney 2012 !!
Harley,
Your post is based on a false premise.
"Obama's primary goal is the destruction of the country..."
this is a wonderful country, you can vote and so can I .!!
this also includes all the 40,000 people who read this thread but do not post.
Numbers/Facts don't lie, Democrats do.
The GOP at their convention told lies that were very easily figured out....What numbers and what facts are you referring to??
HArley, hate loses. I know it must be hard coming to grips that libbies just kicked your ass. Now, perhaps you can tell us Romney's solutions for the economy,,,ready, GO! (crickets)
If your candidate has no solutions, then you dont have any cred on bashing President Obama.
If the GOP wants to retaliate against the Democrats for their highly successful convention, perhaps they can dredge up another ancient has-been actor to argue incoherently with some unoccupied furniture. I mean, that spectacle entertained the right wing lunatic fringe during their feeble candidate's dog-and-pony show and they may just find it an acceptable substitute for an actual presidential campaign, given the sad fact that Romney's chances of winning in November are swirling the drain.
President Obama in November! He is clearly our only rational choice!
Glad I checked back and caught those last couple of killer-diller comments, it soothes me!
Yesterdays speech affirmed my belief in Obama. He is the right guy.
He is an honest, decent good hearted man who is balanced, and has already accomplished almost impossible things. Here is his grade in my opinion:
Healthcare - A+
Avoiding Depression - A+
Foreign Policy - A+
Manufacturing Industry Revival - A+
Immigration - A
Education - B+
Jobs - B
Creating jobs while avoiding depression is almost impossible. That is what President Clinton said. I think Americans are smart enough to understand the almost apocalypse that Republicans had brought in 2008. Obama avoided that and will create jobs if given 4 more years.
somehow you seem to think if you keep saying this it will magically come true. I'm guessing you are bed ridden and never leave the house?
that is the only possible way you could miss the shovel ready jobs that are STILL going on today.
Either that or since you've never worked you don't understand what "shovel-ready" means.
See it's those guys outside working on bridges and roads... that's shovel ready.
I know this is working for me. I'm going rush right out and see your point of view. Or perhaps you think the silicone knobs will sway me?
So we have 2 choices, Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan.
One has yet to tell us how he will fix the economy, he says elect him and then we'll find out. He says he will cut taxes across the board and the reduction in revenue will lower the national debt. I'm not sure how that works but it sounds like he's in a fantasy land.
The same one during his speech avoided anything to do with policies he would implement and avoided all the lies of his vice presidential candidate. Lies that even Fox called deception and lies that can be confirmed on politifact and factcheck.
The other one's policies have created 4.5 million private sector jobs in the last 29 months, saved the auto industry which in turn saved potentially millions of jobs, created over 1/2 million manufacturing jobs in the last 2 years alone, saw the stock market jump to record levels, and like it or not he reduced spending.
I think it's clear, We know what we're getting with Obama, but we know nothing about what Romney's plan is. Ryan lies whenever he talks and people ignore that fact.
I find it pretty ignorant to vote for someone who has not given any plans, and whose own state is not voting for him.
BTW all my facts were verified by factcheck and politifact, which I'm sure the conservatives will call "liberal biased" because it exposes the lies of the right.
It's time for change. It's time to let Mitt Romney have a shot. People, this is serious. Obama is a great speach giver, I'll give him that but we have to start thinking about OUR futures and OUR CHILDREN'S futures. I will NEVER reward a President of the United States with MY vote for a second term if the first term was'nt up to par. I won't go into the whole illegal immigrant thing, but I feel like America is being suckered by Washington. This country needs a DO-ER, not a SPEECH GIVER. I don't care if I like Romney or not, I care about him doing his job for the AMERICAN PEOPLE, LEGAL ONES. If he's elected and in 4 years he has not lived up to MY STANDARDS, he won't receive a second vote from me either. He is getting my vote this time. I'm an American, and I want a President that cares about my value's and my family. I will NEVER reward a President will a second vote if I don't believe in their policies. Obama said at the end of his speach, it was'nt about him, it was about us, the American people. He's right about that. What ever happens in November, I'd like to see all this hate deminish from the US. I love my country. Romney for President/2012.
"saved the auto industry" yeah sure he did. That's a BIG FAT LIE! GM owes "US" the taxpayers of this country, which means half of us, 41 billion dollars that we will never see back. We own stock that is currently at $21 a share, which must get to $54 a share to get GM's 24 BILLION they owe us. When do you think that will happen? How about NEVER!
GMAC owes us 17 billion, and it will be a cold day in hell when we get that back. The GM deal was a "deal for the UAW", and a bend over for you and me. 4 more years, no thanks.
@JCB-1236504
As Mitt Cries no help for GM and you cry foul about the debt service afforded them.... You might want to take a look at your candidates hypocritical stance. Mitt raped the American taxpayer himself!!!!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829
Nice little story, backed up with actual documents as proof.......... So, keep bending over pal.....
Romney was absolutely correct in asking for a "structured bankruptcy" in which they would have survived just like thousands of businesses have. Just like the city of Stockton, Calif. is going through. The were given "special treatment" by Obama, which screwed over the taxpayers, and gave a pass to the Unions. "Saved the auto industry" is just a flat out lie. Bailouts are one thing when they get paid back, like all the banks did, but not like GM, who will NEVER pay back it's loan, despite them saying "we already have". Check factcheck.org for a "pants on fire" rebuke of GM"s LIES! And your Rolling Stone joke is pants on fire too buffoon.
"debt service afforded them" / lol / yeah, you mean government handout don't you? and one that won't be paid back.
Not that Bain's restructuring was in any way shaped by the way he extorted the 30 cents on the dollar "payment arrangements" by threatening to give him and his partners all the leftover available business capital in the form of wall street bonuses and go bankrupt before paying it back to the American People....... That's just heinous, legal or not, and you know it....
BTW, I really don't want a businessperson who has had to go through this kind of bankruptcy with his own company, leading America's economy.....
So much for that "Must be in business to be President" Amendment.... His failing bankruptcy would have been grounds for a dq.
Obama & Co are full of BUMPER STICKERS..... great quotes, but won't fill the tank...........
We need a CHANGE.......
We need some Hope.......
All Barry gives us is slogans.............
@ 25Walker
25Walker!?!?! You crazy old Fundamentalist Christian Loon... You mean to tell me that we actually agree on our choice of Presidential Candidates? Incredible, makes me almost (almost) believe in the second coming of Christ.
Obama/Biden 2012
One thing for sure Layton-3733410 you still like being hosed by Obama!
Obama nailed it and he's going to kick Romey's ass in the debates! Can't wait to watch smug arrogant Romney squirm!
If only he could, but Mr. Obama lacks the integrity and finesse that Mr. Romney carries. Therefore, I will say, so long and good-bye to Mr. Obama.
Arrogant??? HA! Obama is the opitimy of arrrogance! How brainwashed Dems and Libs are, oh my!
The motto for voters this year should be the old adage:
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
It's epitome. LOL Classic republican intelligence!
I AM not a Republican, not a lib either, yes, my spellin' aint the best tonight, but you all know what I meant!
Freedom
Yes he did nail it and we all must get out the vote so we, who actually care about the middle class, do not have to live through four years of those who only want to screw over the middle class to give more to the few. Great speech and a great Convention. Loved Gabby Giffords and all the wonderful speeches from the Dems.
Jeepgal66
Sour grapes.
I hope his TelePrompTer writer is fast enough to stay on topic!
False hope-No change-Thanks Obama
Jedi - Romney used to be pro choice and now he is opposed to abortion. That's a flip flop. He has changed his position on health care. Obamacare was patterned upon Romneycare. Now he vows to overturn it if elected. He avoids taxes by stashing money in the Cayman Islands and Swiss banks. None of the above speaks of integrity to me. He's never wanted for anything and is out of tune with the average American. He is a person of privilege and always has been. How can he possibly relate to the rest of us.
Er, um, finesse and integrity are not qualities of THE flip-flop candidate.
Romney is bought and paid for period
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
...did'nt George W attempt that line?...and now it's on a blooper reel?
President Obama gave an excellent speech. He has my vote. He is a man with a heart not stone like Romney.
Can't wait for the debates either.
Romney must be squirming.
Jeepgal66,
What is "arrogance?"
A Black man with pride?
...How typically conservative you are.
FOUR things Obama needs to get the ron paul votes and win the election:
1. Audit the Federal Reserve.
2. Reduce the number of foreign military bases.
3. Regulate marijuana like wine and tobacco.
4. Bring back the Glass-Steagall Act.
If he IS ALLOWED to adopt these positions he will win easily.
Sorry he already has the Ron Paul vote. I know I am one of the ones who may have Voted for Ron. Smaller Government is one idea and a great one. Larger Government by proxy and military might. Plus blindly serving Corporate interests with our youths lives. is the Republican way. NOT INTERESTED
Screw Romney he could not even face our current Military and thank them for their service. What an A-hole
jeepgal- WTF is opitimy?!?! Since libs are smart we will guess at your attempt to say 'EPITOME' which means A person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type. Well, you are exactly the type of person the Democrats are trying to help to get AN EDUCATION!!! like the 3 R's: readin' writin' and 'rethmitic!!
It's obvious and anyone with an ounce of sense can see you hate the president and will vote for the pathological lying hypocrites Romney/Ryan AGAINST YOUR BEST INTEREST!! And that goes for all your ilk here AKA the teabaggers!
Why don't you practice reading with this article - maybe you'll LEARN something! And for everyone, more FACTS~!
Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tells-533-lies-in-30-weeks-steve-benen-documents-them/
I wanted our President Obama to speak about new possibilities to solve the present problems---His speech was excellent, but he should not have made personal attacks on the other man running for President.
Most Americans do not want personal attacks by Name in important Campaign speeches, but to find out future plans in the making to get this economy/jobs going again. The negativity isn't good.
Obama/Biden for 2012--Get out there and vote for our President---we need to WIN!
ron paul.......looooooooser.
I agree Marchant but with the vicious attacks by the GOP most of them lies, he has to counterpunch them
Hey Joey you have it backwards. It was Obama who couldn't thank the military for their service. For Gods sake he won't even salute the fine men and women who serve this country! Or our flag for that matter. What happened to first thing I'll do is bring the troops home. Four years later he we are still over seas. Good one Odumb-dumb
Obama's speech was average at best, nothing memorable and certainly not convincing. Democrats are screaming that we cannot return to the failed policies of the past, but that we should continue with the failed policies of the present. Obama has simply made the mess far worse, and there is nothing to suggest another four years would be any different. Obama went to Washington believing he could simply force his will on congress, and as such he failed to lead. Thus began all that defines Obama, blame, excuses, and division.
“But as I stand here tonight, I have never been more hopeful about America,”
Well, I hope I'll win the Powerball but no Unicorns are magically appearing with money falling out their arses so, odds are I'm going broke trying to support my family in this economy.. We gave you a chance Mr. President and you blew it!
Apparently the Presidents new plan to fix the economy is that he hopes things change and he wants 4 more years to hope things change. Obama really likes being President.
My "hope" is for the Obama's to leave Washington, D.C. permanently with them never returning as President, Senator or anything else. The "change" is all I have left in my pocket after his first 3-1/2 years in office so I am demanding change from those in political office at nearly every major level.
BTW, I supported O before but I'll support him no more.
If all you have is change in your pocket then you haven't managed your money very well.
Change is all I have because of a weak economy that has driven me to the unemployment lines twice since Mr. Obama has been in office. It's also caused me to do things that I wouldn't normally do. It's not about the ability to manage money, I have managed multi-million dollar accounts successfully and with great finesse. It's about not being hired in an extremely competitive job market where employers literally hand-pick those whom they want and shuffle everyone else out the door. Next time before you speak (or type) something so tripe "tristyJ" maybe you ought to stop and think first. Perhaps you should remember what Thumper's mother told him (in the movie Bambi) "if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." My hope is that you never have to get this far down in life when you've been so far up.
Hard to do when Obama and the Dim's are giving it all away to illegals and the lazy asses sitting all day sucking on their 40 ounce beers or crack pipes cranking out more "monies" as they call them down to the welfare office!
Employers hand pick the best workers. We've survived a multitude of company lay offs, both my husband and myself. We work our asses off. Time to step up your game! Mittens isn't going to help you unless you're willing to relocate to China!
You can not manage money if there is nothing to manage!!! Thank you Obama for leaving us with nothing!!!
Hate to tell you, but that train left the station long before Obama assumed the presidency. Name one Obama policy that left you penniless. Please, just one.
RedDev: I agree. How is it Obama's fault that you don't have the skills to hold a job, almighty Yoda? Was it Obama who fired you?
He's in the wind up, and the PITCH is on the way...... LOW and in the DIRT- BALL 4!! The winning run walks in and the ball game is over!! Republicans win! wait a minute The manager, Harry Reid and coach Nancy are on the field arguing ball 4.... they are saying the batter swung at the ball but its clear from the instant replay that the ball was 10 feet out of the strike zone and the batter never moved....
Now they are arguing the replay is wrong and the fans are all mistaken, everyone is leaving the stadium, but the Democrats are still on the field... the umpires have left, but their still convinced somehow they are right...
.....its a sad day in obamaville.
Fifty millions American Citizens are on food stamps?
Democrats care? Seriously? Why haven't we repealed the Glass Steagall act?
Really you all Blame OBAMA for your lack of Business sense. Lack of desire to build your own Business. And are waiting for Him to Create a JOB for you.
Yet complain that an illegal is working? A drug addict has the wits to support a habit? Who is worse? You for not doing or the dope fiend for getting it done?
Your pathetic!!! Don't Blame the president for your lack of desire or will to get off your duff. Blame yourself!! Aint that the REPUBLICAN WAY fricken losers
You cant have it both ways either the Pres is right or you are a loser. Ask not what your country can do for you, But what you can do for your country.
Jedi
You say you supported Obama which is doubtful but how do you justify all the lies, the flip flops and bad policy for the working class and the retirees that Romney/Ryan have put forward? I really doubt you were ever an Obama supporter.
A really sorry, but oft used comparison, that of sports and politics. Guess what folks, they are NOT the same. Sports are entertainment. Politics, while entertaining, are the bread and butter of life. My rights, liberties, freedoms, do not revolve around Tiger Woods making a hole-in-one.
Crowbar7 ...thinks a crowbar is where birds go to drink!
Are you kidding. Democrats would repeal this legislation if they could. Name one prominent Republican, being the regulation haters they are, that would support this move. Hint - Ryan, McConnell, Cantor, Boehner, would rather commit hari-kari before they would ever support this move. Quit blaming Democrats for Republican/TP obstructionism.
Rt wingers whine about illegal immigrants, but forget how Romney the rich multimillionaire was caught TWICE hiring illegals from Guatemala to do his lawn and his son's lawn, that he found through the Mormon church! When caught did he turn them over to ICE? Nope, he did the ol catch and release. When reporters asked him about it, Mitts answer was ...Oh Geez and walked away.
Mitt went to Great Britain during the OlymPigs, angering one of our most important allies, making himself look more like an 'Ugly American' - clueless about the outside world.
The President pointed that out in his speech; so foreign policy-wise, Mitt is unwise and still not there yet.
Jedi: And yet you'd vote for a president who would limit or take away any of the safe guards for people like you down on their luck. All you have to do is read the right wing comments on these boards to get an idea of what a Ryan/Romney administration would impose. No matter how well you've done in life or how many taxes you've paid you're no longer welcome when you need help. Don't buy into any change is better than no change at all. It can get worse.
I'm a partner in a heating and a/c business (with my dad & bro). I've watched my dad go from working on a farm to working for a propane company to starting this business from scratch. Starting out he didn't have many tools, only one service rig, two young boys at the time (late 90's), and a helpful wife (who also had a full time job). Now this is a man who doesn't have a business degree who turned our business from nothing to very successful. Sometimes the work isn't fun - attic crawling in 90 to 100 degree weather, getting into a crawlspace with snakes, spiders, and who knows what, digging trenches, lifting heavy furnaces and boilers.
My point is Obama comes out and says that "if you own a business, you didn't build that" that the government is to thank for it and he "clarified" that comment by stating that it's because of the roads and highways funded by the government that helps you. Does the government come help do anything is just mentioned? No. Did my business (like any legit business) help pay for those roads and highways? Yes! Did I help pay for them? Yes!
I don't know if Romney is any better than Obama at thinking before he speaks but I have to hope he is. Obama needs to go!
Starsailing all you do on this blog is spew liberal garbage and hate against
Romney, Ryan, the GOP, hell just the right side in general but when someone says Obama sucks their comments are just baseless rants. Anyways it looks like your welfare check keeps your computer and internet going since your on here 24/7.
You have to love liberals with their endless hypocrisy. Complain about jobs going to China, but ignore the fact it was Bill Clinton that made it happen. The North American Free Trade Agreement sucked millions of jobs from this country that have never returned, and you all have a Democratic president to thank for it.
coloradoane..........glad to make you whine....I just attended the grand opening of a new National Park that I created starting 26 years ago. Thousands of hrs, thousands of dollars of my own.....1.5 million plus spent on it the last year preparing it...I am a job Creator....You come on and start your rant as if your family built your business alone. Wrong, public school, public transportation, public courts, police, fire, inspectors........you didn't build jack w/out the government, we the people......
Obama / Biden 2012
I'm really amazed at all the people who are saying, "I gave Obama a chance, and now 3 and a half years later, he hasn't fixed everything and given me my gold-plated job and 100% pension at 55 years old".
C'mon folks. This is the worst economic recession we've seen since the Great Depression that started in 1929. The only thing that fixed the economy then, was some pretty serious socialistic measures by FDR and a World War II that started for us in 1941.
Y'all realized the S**t hit the fan in 2008, don't ya? The stock market is back up to 13,000 again. Housing is finally starting to creep back upwards. Jobs are trickling back. A vote for Obama will continue this trend.
However... Corporate profits are way up. CEO pay is coming back to it's pre-2008 levels. People are working harder for less to ensure the corporations are as profitable as they are, and the American worker is under more stress and assumes more productivity than any other industrialized worker in the world. If your primary concern is for the executive pay, in all the corporations retaining their bonus' and oversized salaries while paying less in taxes than most Americans do, then please go ahead and vote for Romney.
A vote for Romney will ensure that most Americans will eventually live like serfs, dependent upon the goodwill and occasional hand-outs from the 1% who live in their rich enclaves and continue to store the bulk of their wealth in offshore accounts.
Trickle down economics is right. They'll take a river of money into their personal finances and throw us a bone or a tip every now and then.
I'm not "angry-mobbing" it here, I'm merely stating the obvious. In 1970, average CEO pay was about 25 times the average American worker. It is now anywhere from 300 to 750 times the average American worker's wages. Meanwhile, average worker wages have only really grown by 5.5% since 1978.
The system is rigged. The politicians are bought. People like Romney are running on an internal mantra of "MORE". They want more for themselves and for the corporate elite who give them their running orders, and less for us. Everything costs more, and the protections that were once in place to protect workers are weakening and starting to crumble. Romeny would hasten that.
Look at it this way. When Bush was in office from 2000-2008, he operated on the same principals as Romeny: Give Corporations more tax breaks, increase subsidies to encourage corporations to hire more people, regulations should be softened to increase competitiveness, etc... It resulted in an unregulated Wall Street that gambled heavily with everyone's money and resulted in the Crash that we saw. Romney wants to go back to that.
It didn't work then. What makes him think it's going to work now? Oh, that's right. There's still some money to be squeezed from this crushed turnip. To my Republican friends who make 100K or less... If you guys put Romney in the White House and he fails you as he surely will, please don't whine to us about your poor choices because you had some personal issue with a president who was actually trying to help us.
The only person Romney wants to help is Romney.
sailing it took you 26 years to bulid a park? hope you don't work by the hour. your a job creator? haha good one.
Public transportation? - I live in a small town no buses or taxis, yeah the government keeps the roads up but I PAY FOR THAT
Public school? - Yes I attended public school but through taxes I PAY FOR THAT
Fire? - It's a volunteer fire department that with the help of fundraisers (that I usually attend) and a strong community allows it's continued operation
But really fire department, police, public courts, public schools, public transportation - Yeah all of those played a vital role in my businesses development? Get real I appreciate the protection and the laws and freedoms they create but they don't put money in my pocket. My hard work is what makes me successful.
Again 26 years? Ever heard of "time is money"?
What fantasy world do you live in. Let's think. On September 11, 2001 Terrorists came onto American soil and killed thousands of our citizens. Then, President Bush created a whole new department of Government known as Homeland Security, started two wars, made every single one of us who fly for a living deal with unreasonable security, and yet...
...He never got around to securing our borders... It's all Obama's fault for letting in the Illegal Immigrants and giving them all our goodies...
That's quite the logic you have there Crowbar.
The Choice has never been so clear. Continue moving forward, continue fighting for the middle class, continue fighting for all our rights as citizens of this great country, or NOT.
Obama/Biden 2012
Can you believe how many people are mesmerized by promises to the middle class? The middle class is OK.
For those who aren't, there are lawyers and govt agencies.
If liberals don't have someone to save or a bogeyman to fight, they have nothing to do. They exist for victims. Why not live as a victor who cheers others on to do the same?!
Obama is with the guys who are eliminating the middle class. Romney has plans, not just a lot of lofty rhetoric. Obama is finished, thank God!!
The elimination of the middle class started long before Obama became president. In case you hadn't noticed, income levels of the non-wealthy have been dropping off steadily ever since Bush took over leadership of the country.
The choise is clear - Obama 2012. I am not voting for someone who only wants to help his rich millionaire buddies. I can not see any working class person voting for a republican - are they stupid?
oy-vay, "The middle class is OK"
Have you actually seen the earnings ratio's over the last few decades?
Jim Kosty, "Romney has plans"
I can't wait to hear what those plans are. Still waiting.
Jim Kosty, how do you know that? Romney hasn't said one word about what his "plan" is... talk about lofty rhetoric!
The middle class still makes an average of $50k a year. That's pretty darn good.
As long as there are minivans, SUVs, unlimited data plans, smart phones, tablets and internet service in our homes, we are just fine.
I think Romney is waiting for the gold plates to appear in the desert and "reveal" to him what his plan is.
oy-vay,
Absolutely our average 'quality of life', which could be measured by wealth (or data plans, etc) has increased dramatically over my generation. Even our 'poor' people are very well-off compared to other country's middle class. Nevertheless, the disparity between the top and middle is increasing and is very detrimental to our economy.
No No Wait Romney has Already had John Smith Come to him and Assured him. He would lead the Americans to Heaven on earth. Ask Any Mormon. He is the new Prophet of GOD. The NEW jesus the second coming.
The deliverance from the mystical SATAN that does not exist.
Anita: You have it backwards. The middleclass has suffered more under President Obama and the rich are richer. Romney is a good person and will get people back to work which is the biggest crisis facing this nation. Try to look beyond your own backyard. There are millions of Americans STILL unemployed/underemployed and our food stamp and welfare recepients are at record levels. President Obama has not been able to get the job done. Romney will. So what if he's rich. The question is will he get the job done.
Jim K - Willard has plans?! Where the hell have you been?! We watch the RNC and all they said are pure B.S. and lies! There was NOT one single plan of how they are going to bring this 12 milllion jobs to being!! They have no friggin' plans but to reinstate Reagonomics which will ONLY DEEPEN us farther in deficit! You need to google BEYOND FAUX and the brainwashing rightwing sites.
Here's a good article to get you started.
And for everyone, more FACTS~!
Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tells-533-lies-in-30-weeks-steve-benen-documents-them/
UN Real UN American FULL Of POMPOUS DemoRAT Nonsense.....
Why Should ANYONE be Stupid Enough to Believe ANYTHING a WALL STREET OWNED PROFESSIONAL LIAR Like Barack Obama Says?
It is NOT like We The People Can Trust Bailout Barry After All Of His NOT Hope & NOT Change"...Well Maybe That's UN Kind....We've Had A Lot Of Hopelessness & Change For The Worse....But Really...Does That Count?
Forget About Re-Election Let US send Barry Bush-Wacker To The Hague For NOT War Crimes in 2013 (and don't forget Bush & Cheney) for Freedoms Sake!
Believe'nAmerica trouble is i believe in AMERICA more than cheap Chinese labor. Offshoring of jobs to save CORPORATE dollars when they get loopholes we middle class do not. Romney's record shows he loves the china man and his cheap Commie labor. And you all fall in line. Why? Where are the TAX Records Where is the Actual PLAN!!!!
RealAmericanFirst: I think Romney is waiting for the gold plates to appear in the desert and "reveal" to him what his plan is.
LOL!!! This is really good!!! I have an ex Mormon friend turned strong Democrat, and maaan, the stories she tells me. I've been researching this cult and reading an ex Mormon's website that is extremely insightful. The Mormon church is the MOST secretive organize religion out there, and UBER extremely wealthy. Guess that is where Romney get this super secretive attitude that he has. And yes, they are into brainwashing and Taliban mentality.
You should read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer.
A real eye-opener!
Thanks RAF! I will look into this book. :D
Back in the 70's the average CEO made 24 times the average workers wages. Today with stock options, retirement packages, wages and other benefits it's nearly 500 to 1. Romney made a fortune bankrupting and firing which he loves doing and never paid over 14% in taxes yet wants to cut his rate 10%. Will he be happy at 4%?
Oy-Vay: Most surveys indicate the majority of the middle class disagree.
I find it funny how the Obama campaign lays it out as Romney is just for the rich, I'm for the middle class, Michelle and I came from nothing. I don't believe Mitt is just for the 1%. Remember people it's the rich people who help create jobs. Obama just wants class warfare. This is the same man who wanted to create a civilian national army. Who else in history did that...oh yeah HITLER and that turned out rather swell didn't it. Obama's a small man with NO spine. If you make a mistake own up to it like a real man don't just pass the blame. But that is what he is best at.
The middle class has been on a steady decline since Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law and millions of jobs left this country. Obama has caused far more damage to the country then just the skyrocketing debt and deficits. Obama has espoused hatred, division, blame, and excuses. Hardly the qualities of any successful leader, which is why Obama has failed.
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Um... Hello...? Mitt Romney used a pretty unconstitutional arrangement between the Mormon Church and the Selective Service Administration to get himself what should have been a 2-year deferment from the draft after he graduated high school in 1965 to go on a mission to France. Between his mission to France and college, Mitt managed to turn that 2-year deferment into a 8-year deferment when the draft was finally abolished in 1973.
Mitt also has 5 sons (ages 42 - 31) none of whom have ever served in the Armed Forces. When asked why none of his boys ever joined the military, Romney had the brass-cojones to say, "My boys are serving their country by helping me become the next President of the United States".
This draft dodging, spineless man when asked about foreign intervention; however, is quick to say how much tougher he'd be on Iran, how Russia remains our biggest rival, and how he'd support Israel even more than the current level of support we're giving.
There's nothing worse than hearing a ChickenHawk proclaiming how tough he is even while he evades military service and encourages his children to not serve their country as well.
Same old, same old. Same promises as four years ago - even to cut the deficit. He's destroying the middle class as the health care tax is the biggest ever on the middle class. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Jerry...really has he had ANY help to fix anything? Really look at the big picture...and btw yes he has fixed something's...not all, but he is not god, he is our President!
He had lots of help- he just refused it. If Pres Obama can refuse other people's ideas, his ideas can be refused too.
He is for sure not God!! God would never allow him or anyone like him that has no morals to lead the country that God made!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see Rush Limbaugh sheeple are plentiful. Which health care taxes are destroying the middle class? Gwasshooper wants to know.
dot
Jerry is right and you are still walking around with the wool pulled over your eyes. Obama is a VERY evil person with an evil agenda, he is determined to completely destroy our country.
Pull your head out of his azz and look around. The only people that are better off than they were in 2007 are the ones that are on welfare or have taken their futures into their own hands and have worked their butts off 16 hours a day/7 days a week to keep their heads above water.
Obama has done nothing positive for our country. He has been too busy playing golf, basketball, vacationing, or wheeling and dealing with foreign leaders things we won't know about until he is out of office but you can bet it it is for his own personal gain and not ours.
Wake up and smell the stink coming from the outhouse, it's Obama and the garbage he is trying to push off on us and our country.
Jerry apparently you have never been sick and have your insurance company drop you because of your illness. You don't know what you are talking about. The health care program is needed badly. Imagine how you would feel if you could not get coverage. Put yourself in other peoples shoes. It is all about greed. Vote Obama.
Obama has worked his tail off, taking much less vacation than W. Are you running around moving your money trying to guess which bank is going to fail? Are you still resigned to the idea that Buicks, Cadillacs, Jeeps, and Chryslers are things of the past? Are people still talking about the probability of another GREAT DEPRESSION? No, no, and no. Did the stock market just go up 2% today to reach a new high for the year? Will the jobs report be good tomorrow? Yes and likely! Obama loves you. You ain't heavy to him! Peace is coming! Open your eyes! Do we have to go back to greed and war? I don't think so!
Shelly Fryer Forgey I tend to disagree GOD has let people of lesser morals than Obama LEAD this country. Do you think MASS GENOCIDE in Jesus's name is ok?
Do you think Slavery is ok? God tends to let us make up our own minds. Its called FREE WILL. Without it. How would you even choose salvation by Christ.
I know this and am Beyond being a Christian. I happen to believe that GOD knows no religion over another SHE is Bigger than that. God holds no bounds. We as Humans do and that's our problem. That is what Jesus tried to show us. But we failed to heed the lesson.
God is the Father or Mother and we are a PART of god rather than apart from GOD. I Could go on but its not the place for it.
Jerry and Rangewolf, you both need to get off the teahad kool-aid and chill out man. That is the stupidest crap I have read on here yet. Check for "commies" under your beds at night too or just the all the evil "socialists"coming to get you? According to you paranoid "conservatives", unless we're rich, white, male and CHRISTIAN, we could just about anybody in this country so look out you freaks and keep watching over your shoulders, I just might have my Beretta in YOUR back to "rob you of all your hard earned conservative money since us bum libs don't work and all"-LMAO!!!!! Run,, run, RUN!!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 and stop the paranoia crappola!!!
The Democratic Party has been rolling out the same playbook of promises for the past 60 years. Then they tuck it back in the closet the day after the election to wait for the next. Democrats have yet to realize that actually delivering on their endless promises would make for a better campaign strategy then just continually running on them.
Boy, am I sick of hearing this! A few facts for ya!
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Aug 31, 2012 13090
Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
Romney should pack now for the Cayman Islands. He's DONE!
You are an idiot,
Obama* and his false claims of the Truth. haha " it is not a tax" and then send a top us attorney to argue For The Tax. and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, "It would ALL be Unconstitutional if not for the tax". And then insult every buisinness owner in america by telling us, 'If you have a buisiness, you did not do that, Someone Else Made That Happen". How many more times will they "just pass tha law and fix it later"? No more Obama* No more Biden. No more Lies.!!
Do you realise Romney declared his mandate on his very similar health care plan to be a penalty and not a tax? I'm sure it doesn't matter to you.
And like lyan ryan you misquote what Obama said about not doing it alone. I guess you agreed when Romney told Olympians they didn't do it alone. That they stood on the shoulders of parents, coaches and communities that built venues for them.
If you're against lying why do you continue to post them?
If either of the current idiots running for office wins WE'RE all done
layton... how do you always get the first post? :)
He and Feisty are probably part of the multi-million dollar bureau of online bloggers that Eric Holder put together in order to "correct misinformation on the web."
In other words, to spread Obama propaganda.
Intelligence - as in one smart cookie.
Perhaps you could get Issa to investigate this massive conspiracy theory. Rumor has it, he loves conspiracy theories involving fast cars, furious republicans, and guns.
RedDev,
I have not had so much fun since Vegas in August.
It has been a great night!!
Feisty I want in on the secret so I can also make loot off of telling the truth. It is so easy. AKA EASY MONEY.
Northstar - the difference between Obama and Romney.
Obama - Hope, Faith, Opportunity, Pursuit
Romney - Privilege, Obstruction, Fear, Hate
Follow the capitals, play the lexicons, watch the meaning, and yes, enjoy!! Few see it : )
RedDev,
got it !!!
OMG that is cool.
hope....still isnt working. Who was responsible for the "fast and Furious" operation again?? oh yeah, we STILL don't know. BUT we know who was given Presidential Priviledge.....funny what happens when the shiite gets to close to home.
One Border Patrol agent dead because of a political agenda that went south...no justice done, just sweep it under the rug. That right there should be more than enough grounds for impeachment.... unless you like not knowing the truth.
When it comes out, it will make a great movie, ecspecially if the truth is told.
Keep believing the same crap cooked up by the same SS collecting nut who put out the "break their windows" on his nutty blog after HCR passed as if crook Issa has a leg to stand on. Pot, meet kettle. Same creep who cost American taxpayers almost a billion with his shutting down of rural airports with his union busting efforts against FAA workers that resulted in the complete shutdown of these airports and ALL the people working from maintenance workers to construction crews came to a standstill so Issa could have his "war on union workers".
Your kind are the sickest, most UnAmerican anti-worker people in this country as only YOU take delight in people losing their jobs and then blame The President for it. WHO started the witch hunt saying Chevy Volts all catch on fire because they HATE and don't want electric cars or ANY fuel efficent cars to ever make it in the USA? Conservatives and the gop since oil, oil, oil is the only energy source they believe in and when that GM plant shut down production for FIVE weeks you rats were dancing in the aisles those "greedy workers were out of a job and those rotten cars were not being built".
The whole auto industry would have went belly up so long as OBAMA was President and if over 100,000 USPS workers lose their jobs because of the gop controlled House continue to bankrupt them with those insane payments of billions per year? You'll be cheering. Nobody and I mean NOBODY could be so vicious when it comes to wanting their own people to e thrown out of work so filthy rich oligarchs can rake in more BILLIONS. Move to China and be wage slaves THERE so we can reelect our President and not keep letting corporate raiders take, take, and take from us some more while the people who work for them cannot even make a wage that they can live on.
Obama* and his false claims of the Truth. haha " it is not a tax" and then send a top us attorney to argue For The Tax. and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, "It would ALL be Unconstitutional if not for the tax". And then insult every buisinness owner in america by telling us, 'If you have a buisiness, you did not do that, Someone Else Made That Happen". How many more times will they "just pass tha law and fix it later"? No more Obama* No more Biden. No more Lies..!!
Obama is a snake oil salesman.
Positive - that's an insult to a snake oil salesman. Obama is lower than that.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012-2016
RedDevPS - thanks! And LOVED 8.6!!!!
Cubs, sorry punkin, it's just luck of the draw and by the way, I'm female.
He promised you everything he promised four years ago and didn't deliver.
I would again have to say he did deliver on some things...not all but some and I am thankful for them...Obama Biden 2012
WHAT did he deliver on? He failed to deliver on the deficit, on earmarks, on no-bid contracts, on lobbyists, ETC!
Tell me how you're better off than you were four years ago. Food stamp recipients are doubled, as are gas prices. The debt has gone up over 50%. The deficit is now 104% of our GDP.
What is so great about this picture?
Read it and weep, read it and weep.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
....Hell, he delivered us 5 trillion more debt...now how do y'all Democrats spend money you don't have?? y'all gonna git a loan from yer neighba, cuz yous too stoopid to add, ors maybe yous just gonna lie about what yer needin the money fo.
Give me a break, he's a clown, and your all lining up to get your free bicycle helmet at the expense of national demise....how good for you.
It helps to have a party across the aisle that doesn't abuse the filibuster more then any other in history and say NO to everything you want to do. And don't give me the "super-majorities in BOTH Houses BS" because he did not have it for the first SIX months in the Senate and it doesn't help when so many of yor own party are the flippin Blue Dogs who are R's with D's after their names. They're so bloody conservative, might as well just be Rebups anyway-Manchin,Lieberman who claimed to go Independent but voted with the R's 90% of the time anyway, Ted Kennedy too sick to vote and was not present to vote on most bills, Franken's seat could not be filled for 6 months because a whiny a** repub kept demanding recounts and suing so noit even 60 dems to begin with-57.....then let's see, by the time we HAD 60, recess and nothing got voted on and then back to the BS and McConnell's wall of obstriuctionists and never could get a filibuster proof majority....HCR c/n be passed w/o amendements galore and reconcilation to get it done. Spare me you lying trolls and your constant tired old lies. I'm FED UP with it.
Man, if Bin Laden had been killed on the TX idiot's watch, his face would already be carved out on Mt. Rushmore by now and a day of the month named after him!!!
I could use some help on the following words:
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No president ever delivers on everything promised but it's ok when a republican fails to deliver right? Below are a small fraction of Bush's but Reagan and Bush senior had as many and none of these 3 had as divisive an opposition in congress as Obama..
Bush Promise:
Bush fact:
Bush promise:
Bush fact:
Bush promise:
Bush fact:
Bush promise:
Bush fact:
They bash Obama for not achieving employment or deficit goals but not for failing to implement middle class programs. As the above post illustrates none of the promises Bush made that would appeal to students, poor or middle class did he even attempt to implement.
Larry, Bush is not running for President. He is no longer in office.
I seriously wouldn't be surprised for the first time in our history that Mitt Romney might just concede the election.
He is a con artist and a total rookie...and totally outclassed.
Blah....blah...blah....same crap as 4 years ago!!! Funny, I need four more years to get it right! POS!
1SG: Yes, convention speeches often are crap, but for some reason voters take them to heart now & again. I just feel that the DNC's crap is considerably less deep ( and less well-aged ) than the RNC's crap. Another advantage for the DNC is that a kernal of truth surfaces occasionally, seemingly more or less at random.
ISG1973 Actually your so Right SAME old CRAP as four YEARS ago. Just different names
Last time it was Palin Mcain and now its ROmney? RYAN And true they all are A POS. Republicant.
5 trillion dollars later and some free bicycle helmets....The letter "D" does start the word STUPID.
D starts the word Stupid? Well, when you can't figure out the difference btwn D and S, YOU s/n be telling people how to spell STUPID typical conservative nimrod who of course is totally behind slashing funding for EDUCATION while handing over your SS and MC to Wall St and insurance companies. Man oh man. Robme and Ruin LOVE your dumb, clueless behinds as you'd rather sit in church before you'd spend one more MINUTE in SCHOOL or have your kids in SCHOOL either. BOINK!!!
Obama* and his false claims of the Truth. haha " it is not a tax" and then send a top us attorney to argue For The Tax. and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, "It would ALL be Unconstitutional if not for the tax". And then insult every buisinness owner in america by telling us, 'If you have a buisiness, you did not do that, Someone Else Made That Happen". How many more times will they "just pass tha law and fix it later"? No more Obama* No more Biden. No more Lies..!!
There was Michelle with the phony "Poor" stories, when they met they were working at the same law firm getting a combined total of $300,000.00 a year.
The hole in the car was just in case Obama* had to throw his Cocaine out when the cops stop him. Obama* was so Stoned that he bought $400.00 shoes 1/2 size too small.
Read his book and see the man for who he is.
Harvard is in the middle of a Cheater Scandal that goes back to before 1990. Why Obama* refuses to show his transcripts and refuses to say why he was Disbarred.
May god help us...
Republicans need a course in arithmetic. Watch President Clinton's speech and then watch it again.
Ohe GOD is regardless of political affiliation. SEE THATS THE DIFFERENCE. Republicans< YOU HAVE TO BELeIVE LIKE ME
Dems > GOD IS SO GREAT WE CAN ALL BELIEVE AS WE WISH FREEDOM OF RELIGION. James Madison and T. JEFFERSON
Anita: Bill Clinton is the who lied to the American people in front of the whole world on TV. Bill Clinton is the man who was unfaithful to his wife. Bill Clinton is the one who sold us out to China. He said the Chinese Trade Agreement would create millions of jobs for Americans. I can't even begin to imagine anyone trusting anything Clinton says.
I am moved by President Obama speech tonight. He spoke of citizenship. Each and everyone of us are the hope and change for this country. It was the votes of miilions that brought heathcare to more and more people this year and next. It was our votes that provided jobs to a automobie industry that was on the ropes. It was our votes that brought more consumer protection, investments in education, alternative energy, and keeping college loans interest rates at a reasonable level.
It is truly ,we the people,not isolated individuals, but we the people of the United States of America that will determine the course for our country when we go to the polls in November.
Northstar, I so agree! His speech was about "us" ... the people of this great Nation. And we the people of this Nation need to decide which road we want to travel ...
Northstar, what planet are you living on? Sure ain't earth!
In the end, its just a speech.
Layton,
Yes, we the people do have the power. It is part and parcel of our countries roots.
We are the citizens who will determine who will be on on school boards, our city and county, state legislative bodies, and who will be in Congress, Senate and President of the United States. It is not the superpacs, the pundits, the MSM, it is us.
Layton,
I am fired up and ready to move forward and vote.
and keeping college loans interest rates at a reasonable level.
It was also those votes that decided that only the government could give loans.
all of you rightwing people blaming obama for no jobs, should blame that rightwing corp/wall street bought congressman you voted for...stupid idoit
Here, here Northstar. The ingratitude of those that seem to think they made it on their own is almost vomit inducing. Society helps levels the playing field - making it something we all get to play and either succeed or fail. Americans seem to forget this is why people moved here - to gain an equal footing. Europeans and others around the world would never have moved here if their wasn't opportunity available to all. I sure do wonder why Romney's family moved back here after denouncing the country - did his family find Mexico a bit to stifling?
Maybe Romney could move Back to Mexico and Get a Refresher course. One can wish. He honestly has enough MONEY
northstar I to was moved by his speech. So moved I went to the bathroom and cloned him.
I was "moved" also, then I pulled the handle and flushed it down!
Yea northstar it moved me too, right to the bathroom to hurl.
Northstar
You said he spoke of citizenship. How come no one has ever seen his long form birth certificate with the doctor who delivered him? How come John McCain had to show his but Obama was never vetted like all Presidential candidates? How come President Obamas Aunt was ordered deported in 2004 but broke the law and continued to hide in Boston as an illegal alien?
No one in their right mind will vote for a Democrat in November.
BTW: Did you see the jobs report today? Another example of failed policies. Sorry, not going to do another 4 years of failed policies.
Extremely disappointing speech by Obama....no plan.....no solutions....
Why didn't he just get up on stage and shrug?
Oh and Mittwit gave us everything we need to know
NOT
Hope...sorry but you were watching a rerun of repub convention on fox tonight.
Sounds like rob has had too much chicago-style koolaid
I thought he went into some great details into what his plan is. But, judging by your login name, you weren't expecting any answers to begin with, right?
Why don't you see if you can run a country, all you Repubs do is sit on your a//, and complain. You are all full of it, no one complained while Bush almost ran this whole country in a ditch, and I just know that you voted for him. If you don't like the president, don't vote for him. And if Mittens does win, I know how to survive, and I ain't complaining. You're so lazy and always want a hand out. instead of complaining, get up off of your lazy backsides and help the country. Kennedy said, ask not what your country can do for you,, but what can you do for your country. It's not just you, you, you, there are millions of people in America and thats inclusive, get up and stop blaming the PRESIDENT, you voted for Bush but you're not blaming him for this mess???AND I GUESS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A HARD JOB THAT A PRESIDENT HAS, SINCE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT. You're another Sarah Palin..I can see Russia from my back yard...
Americanpeasant: What plan did you hear President Obama talk about? Just curious.
LionFIXH
your funny, Republicans sitting on their ass.....well, we are too busy working and paying taxes so people with no identification can vote Democrat and suck the American dream dry.....
try again you sick pig.
Obama* and his false claims of the Truth. haha " it is not a tax" and then send a top us attorney to argue For The Tax. and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, "It would ALL be Unconstitutional if not for the tax". And then insult every buisinness owner in america by telling us, 'If you have a buisiness, you did not do that, Someone Else Made That Happen". How many more times will they "just pass tha law and fix it later"? No more Obama* No more Biden. No more Lies..!!
There was Michelle with the phony "Poor" stories, when they met they were working at the same law firm getting a combined total of $300,000.00 a year.
The hole in the car was just in case Obama* had to throw his Cocaine out when the cops stop him. Obama* was so Stoned that he bought $400.00 shoes 1/2 size too small.
Read his book and see the man for who he is.
Harvard is in the middle of a Cheater Scandal that goes back to before 1990. Why Obama* refuses to show his transcripts and refuses to say why he was Disbarred.
May god help us...
He sure didn't help us when George Bush was around.
From Republicans and the Tea Party
The only thing the republicans have proven to be good at is destroying the economy. Trickle down economics has failed time and again. Republicans keep selling the same old BS and some people, totally ignorant of history, buy it.
And trickle up crony capitalism isn't to blame with Obama?
There is NO middle class in socialism.
Wake up.
God is not part of the Democratic platform. Thank you President Obama for letting all these illegal aliens stay in America to include your Aunt who was ordered deported in 2004 and continued to break the law by staying in Boston. Mr President the American people can only hope we can undo the damage you have done to this country in the time you have been in office. I am sure the Republicans will have ICE do their job.
BTW: Mr President have you seen the jobs report that was released today. Another failure of your administration. And to have a former President who was impeached for perjury speak in favor of you tells us you have taken the low road.
Romney/Ryan 2012- Take America back
DNC = Wins
RNC = Loses
Rob= fantasy land lol
President Obama rocks the house!
4 more for 44!
in the lakeland ledger newspaper this morning,11,000 polk county residents on universal health care advantage and medicaid plans have lost their insurance coverage for admission to lakeland regional madical center.
Where ever Mitt Romney was tonight... I'm sure he feels like he was kicked squarely in the balls.
doubt that
I doubt that, there's a sucker born every minute I'm seeing a whole bunch of them right here!
Maybe if Romney can pry that silver spoon out of his mouth he can think of something to say. Like, what's his plan for starters.
Romney left the Country, he's in the Caymans....
at least he hasnt handed them to Hugo Chavez..........(balls that is).
poor performance by Obama......I always thought he was a better politician and a better speaker than that? Maybe he didn't mention any solutions nor plan because he doesn't have one?
You nailed it hope, his speech sounded exactly what we heard 4 years ago with the exact same problems with the same solutions
He didnt meantion any plans??? You deaf and willfully blind? Tell me what plans Romney mentioned?
Maybe we were watching different speeches. In the one I watched Obama laid out the same plan that he's been trying to get passed for the past two years. It is a very detailed plan that doesn't leave much to the imagination, unlike certain Ryan authored budget plans- which claim to reduce the deficit even though the math doesn't add up.
KD212: President Obama has been our president now for almost 4 years. Surely he would know what his plan is. Maybe he didn't talk about his plans because he doesn't have a clue what to do, in reality.
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And the Republicans had the same plan for the last 40 years.
The republican plan every 4 years, trickle down. The rich get richer the poor get poorer and more in the middle class are moved to the poor. Elect Romney drop his 13% rate to 3% as he's clearly paying too much.
Biden's speach was much better , Obama's was pretty hollow with no real plan just a vision and with his track record he won't get a second chance from me.
Plan: Allow the middle class to better prosper
Why is this so hard for you to accept??
ah rob, is the middle class prospering now? don't think so, so why would we give another 4 years to bring is back to exactly where we were in 08?
jay,
so allowing for "trickle down" will make them better??
Jealousy...LOL
Jay I'd really like for you to explain to me how cutting taxes on millionaires while raising them on middle class earners is going to help the middle class. I'd also like for you to explain to me how cutting Pell grants and putting banks back in charge of student loans, raising the interest rates on them is going to help the middle class. I'd also like for you to explain how continuing subsidies for big oil while getting rid of any subsidization of alternative energies is going to help America. Defense spending is a sunk cost and yet the GOP wants to keep raising it to rates well above what the DoD requires making it a perfect opportunity for waste, fraud and abuse by defense companies. How does this help the US? Romney's advisors have referred to his 'economic' plan as "modernizing the Bush policies"...last I checked Bush left the door with the weakest job creation record of any president since Hoover. I'd like to know how ANY of this fixes the economy, cuts into the wealth disparity (which is going to create the final giant crater when the people who fuel the economy as consumers are completely unable to do so), invests in the future or ensures the US will do anything aside from repeat the lost decade of the 00's. Oh, and privatizing social security...yeah, not a good idea because there is something called "market volatility" which wiped out trillions in 401k's from 2007-2009 during the Bush collapse...the only saving grace was social security and Republicans WANT to put social security into the same situation as IRA's and 401k's? Also, voucherizing Medicare for those of us 55 and under is only going to ensure that in Paul Ryan's America that when Wallstreet absconds with our IRA's that we cannot afford the gap between the Medicare voucher and private insurance which will render many Americans to live like they did before social security: old ladies eating cat food and before Medicare: old men dying of treatable illnesses. Of course the upside to this is you're stinking rich you can live literally like a lord after they privatize the national parks and sell those off as private preserves...very similar to Europe during the Dark Ages. Life really, really sucked during the Dark Ages and Republicans actually pine away for such a reality...
Obama* and his false claims of the Truth. haha " it is not a tax" and then send a top us attorney to argue For The Tax. and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, "It would ALL be Unconstitutional if not for the tax". And then insult every buisinness owner in america by telling us, 'If you have a buisiness, you did not do that, Someone Else Made That Happen". How many more times will they "just pass tha law and fix it later"? No more Obama* No more Biden. No more Lies..!!
There was Michelle with the phony "Poor" stories, when they met they were working at the same law firm getting a combined total of $300,000.00 a year.
The hole in the car was just in case Obama* had to throw his Cocaine out when the cops stop him. Obama* was so Stoned that he bought $400.00 shoes 1/2 size too small.
Read his book and see the man for who he is.
Harvard is in the middle of a Cheater Scandal that goes back to before 1990. Why Obama* refuses to show his transcripts and refuses to say why he was Disbarred.
You'll never see any republican on any of these blogs defend what Romney proposes as most don't know. All they know is he isn't Obama, they could care less who he is or what he proposes.
He knows how to read a message on the teleprompter! Talk, talk and more talk! I am sick of listening someone keep talking, but followed by no action!
What are you talking about? Have you been paying attention to the legislative branch? Obama had 72 days of an actual fillibuster-proof majority, the rest of the time he's had to watch everything he wants to do get blocked by Republicans blatently abusing the filibuster. They've broken their own records for obstruction and continue to do so...and Obama has had to deal with an opposition much more motivated to crash this economy (source: "Don't ask what good we do") then to do anything productive. What Obama can do by executive order he has done...but seriously, if you want to attack anyone for inaction, check out Yurtle the turtle Mitch McConnel and the weeping Tangerine John Boehner. You can also look at the teabaggers who don't just object to Obama as a politician but as a human being (mostly because he's black). You tell me how he's supposed to get anything done with the near sedition coming out of the briny swamp that is the right wing...yes, he's made moves that I consider to be major mistakes. But if you think this gridlock and inaction is his fault or even close to a majority of his blame...you need to seriously do some reading...
Unfortunately democrats don't sign a pledge to a corporate lobbyist like Norquist vowing to vote in lock step they actually vote what they believe. There's seldom a time 100% of democrats or left leaning independents will support any bill. Democrats vote their conscience, republicans don't have one. A super majority by 1 or 2 doesn't insure passage of anything. Being a republican that consists of clones that all vote alike must be nice. Of course why bother to elect people that vote the party line 100% of the time. Just look at the republican platform and enter a yes or no for each. Save tax dollars.
Astounding that Obama had the unmitigated gall to use this line tonight: "They want your vote, but they don't want you to know their plan."
The Romney rebuttal, aside from the fact it is simply not true, should be clear: NANCY PELOSI!
Pelosi gaffed, stating that Congress "[has] to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it, away from the fog of controversy."
For Obama to repeat this gaffe is mind-boggling!
Ryan Romney plan...screw the middleclass and tax breaks for the rich....not much detail, but it is at least a promise...!
....do you lick up your own vomit?? you must, you seem to eat regurgitated BS by the shovel, if that dark hole your head is in smells funny, well, you might want to pull it out......
I'm sure you can get some free government help to assist you.
Vote for Obama if you don't want Medicare when you get old and need it.
Vote against Obama if you want Medicare fixed. Obama and the Demo-dummies are incapable of fixing the problem because they have spent so many years attacking republicans on that subject.
Romney's plan is to cut taxes mostly on the wealthiest by 5 trillion dollars but refuses to say what he'll cut to pay for it. Will it be mainly at the expense of the niddle class as Ryan suggested eliminating the tax exemption for employer health plans or home mortgage deductions? If Ryans ideas are used it'd raise a middle class families taxes that had employer health care and a mortgage $3,000 a year or more but they refuse to say. I'd say Obama's statement Romney won't say what his plans are is spot on.
What mindless non sense. Romney's original plan was to offer a voucher only until the CBO analyzed it and stated by the time it was implemented the average voucher would fail to cover the insurance premium by $6400 a year and take half the average social security check just to cover health care. Romney back tracked after senior outrage knowing this alone could cost him the election. He then changed his plan to include a medicare option but then it saved nothing.
Obama has extended medicare solvency from 12 years to 20 simply by Obama care and with a 1.45% medicare tax simply raising it to 1.75% would extend it beyond the baby boom generation when rates could fall. The gloom and doom is simply a republican scare tactic that doesn't make sense. Even the CBO says the new Romney plan would cost an additional 200 billion+ over Obama's, hardly the way to save it.
Everyone knows that President Obamas class warfare tactic is not working. Under the current President our economy is the worst its been in 90 years. The President wants to keep illegal aliens in America using benefits that belong to legal citizens and immigrants so I'm sorry Mr. President you failed and need to be given a pink slip in November.
amazing speech. i have never heard so many lies and BS scrammed into such a short time. love the part about he stands for individual freedom and chose.. crack up speech.
After watching both conventions one thing is very clear the Democrats party has more diversity. I came to the conclusion they are the party for all Americans. I think their message was very clear unlike the Republicans. As an independent I will vote Obama Biden.
Stop with the nonsense that you are an independent rather than the Obama operative we know you to be. Please, give us some credit for brains!
All I hear from Republicans is hate, hate and more hate. Please don't go away mad.......just go away!!! Your boy Rmoney and company have been out classed and you know it but don't either have the balls or intelligence to realize it.
Wait... you tell someone to go away - after accusing them of being hateful.
Let me tell you, if you smelt it, you dealt it. Progressives tend to be emotional people moved by strong emotions, including and especially hatred.
Everything is about how they FEEL and their FEELINGS on things and about people. That's why they are quicker to emote at you than support their positions with facts.
Hence the Democrats reliance on emotional appeals and touchy-feely abstract ideals. Lots of fluff, no real stuff.
I was electrified by his speech I did not voted for him in 2008 but will in 2012 he help more americans that needed to be help in a time of economic crisis he has my vote I want a president that will not sell USA to the corporation/banks that has placed us in this mess.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
I haven't wasted one minute of my time listening to any of Obama's speeches because I know that anything he says is just lies to get reelected. He has had four years to prove that he is capable of leading our country and has failed at everything.
The guy needs to get a job that he is qualified for, like going back to his birthplace, Kenya, and picking garbage up.
Just looking at his ugly face and huge ears turns my stomach. His mouth looks like it belongs on the rear end of an ape and every time he opens it I just wait for all the sh*t to spew out, which is exactly what happens.
No more time Obama, your time has run out. You don't deserve a pension or security guards that we the taxpayers have to pay. The only thing you deserve is a prison sentence for impersonating an American citizen, which we both know you are NOT.
rangerwolf,
A closed mind is such a waste.
a closed mind full of hate is self destructive.
..IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE AMERICA.
....I guess 5 TRILLION dollars debt in 4 years would electrify anyone. First thing I do when I fall behind on bills is go to the casino and spend money to get out of debt.....
wait a minute, I dont, I guess that makes me (...not a democrat). Silly me, I'm glad I thought about that for a second.
Would you blame yourself as you do Obama if a new wife had a $600 a month car payment and $1,000 a month consumer debt which is basically what Obama faced with all the spending Bush did that's never ending. As foir spending would you do as Romney wants to do and cut your income? Explain how Romneys 5 trillion tax cut ios responsible?
Obama is saddled with a 300 billion a year Bush unfunded drug plan that's added 1.2 trillion to his total. A 400 billion a year tax cut that republicans won't allow to expire adds 1.6 trillion. Add in 2 unfunded wars and you're talking real money. Bush's operating his entire presidency on credit forces every president yet to come with having to figure out how to pay for programs they had nothing to do with.
Larry,
Sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me. Barry didn't walk into the Oval Office with eyes wide shut. He and his staff, as I understood it, started getting briefed vitrtually the day after the '08 election day was over. He opened his mouth, spoke, and here we are, four years later.
When B41 got nailed for reading his lips, the precedent was set. But then, that's just my opinion.
Isn't everyone sick to death of the 'one liners' both parties are spouting? These conventions were just one recurring campaign slogan after another. One lame advertisement. They're trying to sell us a couple of products without letting us know what the products actually do.
This is how lame they sound --
"I'm the best. I don't have any problems. I fix everything. That other product sucks. It is the worst product. If you buy it it will ruin your life. I love you. I care about you. See look at all these "stats" that show that I care about you. That other product doesn't care. It hates you. It will steal everything you have. It wants you to suffer. It will hurt your wife and your children. Don't by that other product. It is bad bad bad. It is evil. I am good. I am the best. Buy me."
Seriously that's how nauseating and stupid they've started to sound. Do they think we're really that dumb?
As an independent I will vote Romny/Ryan because the economy is on its deathbed with our current President who doesn't have a clue how to fix it.
I've talked to people from Mass. who told me things were great when Romney was their Governor.
Also I am sure President Romney will make sure immigration does their job unlike now where ICE turned a blind eye to President Obamas Aunt staying in Boston illegally after being ordered to be deported in 2004.
Sorry, but the law applies to everyone. Thats why I will vote Republican.
Layton, I agree completely.
I think that Obama defined the difference between a plan that includes all of us and the plan for the country that Romney and Ryan want for the elite few. Excellent speech where Obama directly went after Romney and defined what is important to the majority of us. We who care about the middle class and the retirees need to get out the vote. The money interests are going to pour more in to try to defeat him but they cannot defeat registered voters who get out and vote.
It was almost the exact same plan from 2008, only instead of promising to do certain things he set "goals" to do them. No one believes a word of it. He failed the first 4 years but wants 4 more to get it right? No one in their right mind (see liberals) would buy that!
Obama clearly defined the progressive definitions of citizenship, which is more in keeping with collectivism rather than community based on the initiative of individuals.
Notice how progressives use "community" and "government" interchangeably?" Many of them don't know the difference between the two.
Oy-Vay!
there ya go again.... no really, way to go. Yes the truth hurts, and lies are soooo much easier to believe when you really want to. It would be one thing if Obama actually DID something. But, spending money, you dont have to begin with....well, where do these silly Democrats think it comes from???
....The "HOPE and CHANGE" ferry I guess....(was that politically incorrect?).
How stupid are the Democrats? All those in favor say "I", all those opposed say "No". They can't even agree. Do you really expect America to vote for the Democratic party? They can't even vote correctly. What the heck? Obama is going down. You Democrats have been drinking to much Kool Aid. You can't even fill up the out door stadium. That is why they changed it to indoors. You don't think they would want the public to see a half empty stadium now do you?
Jim,....."spending money you don't have ?"....
Hey, the past is the past, this is no time to chastise the republican Congress for borrowing money from China to give Bush blank check after blank check to pay for his two wars, big oil welfare and Medicare part-D
@Ellis - how quickly liberal fools forget 9/11. "Bush's two wars..." you're a complete moron
Boo-yah Ellis, I always like your comments!
Chris: The biggest war was Iraq looking for imaginary WMD. In any case we've had many wars yet never in our history have we initiated an unpaid one. Being attacked doesn't mean we have to leave the cost for the next generation does it?
Bush is the only president in history to not only not raise taxes but actually lower them in time of war by 400 billion a year and simply running the wars off the books. Being off the books doesn't make them free it's simply borrowing to fight them and was totally irresponsible. Add in an unfunded new drug plan costing 300 billion a year simply made it worse. Even if you accept both wars as necessary it's hard to claim not paying for them as they were fought was responsible especially those who claim to be fiscally responsible.
Jennifer,
I did not listen to any speeches last night, but on this morning's commute, I did hear NPR's Mara Liasson, hardly a staunch conservative, make some comment about Obama not offerring much in the way of details. The sitting president? Sure, you can't get into excruciating details on everything, but when Liasson makes such an observation, well, NPR reported, you decide.
F&B666
Jennifer
I agree middle class and retirees need to get out and vote and also active and retired military whom President is planning to screw by increasing their Tricare costs and increasing the retirement age for active duty military. You know who the majority of Military is voting for.....I'll give you a hint........his last name does not start with an O.
Steel ... I have a son who is a Major in the military...... the majority of men/women in the military are NOT repeat NOT voting for Obama......
disgusted
Amen Brother. I talk to the military almost daily and all the soldiers I've talked to are voting straight Republican because they have heard what President Obama wants to do with benefits they have earned. I don't fault the President for not serving in the military........but how he wants to screw the military there is no way I could pull the lever for him. Sorry, Mr President: Our military deserves their health benefits unchanged. They have earned it by their sacrifices.
Romney/Ryan 2012
Concur. They want to put more of a burden on our military and vets by raising fees for Tricare Prime, Standard, and Tricare For Life. They told us these were going to always be there for us, however, when the BS starts flowing those who put in on the line with life and limbs end up getting the royal screwing.
Of course you can bet your rearend that Congress with continue to get their large pay, bennies, and 5 week vacations! Take a look at what we have in Congress today, a bunch of lawyers and only a few who have served.
This is why TREA, DAV, VFW, and other military organizations need to continue they will not tolerate their lies and false promises.
Go Ask the Vets, Dummy.