2016 hopefuls find footing, test waters in Charlotte

 

CHARLOTTE, N.C. – The political world is firmly focused on this year’s elections, but several of President Barack Obama's would-be successors may well find their launching pad here at the Democratic National Convention, using high-profile speaking slots and delegate buzz to boost their fortunes for the 2016 campaign.

Win or lose in November, the president has long said that 2012 will be his last run for elective office, meaning that Democrats likely will have a wide-open playing field to battle for the nomination in four years – depending on the intentions of two party heavyweights, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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For now, some dark-horse candidates are looking to use their convention appearances as a platform to raise their profile for consideration four years from now. Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley had a speech in prime time on Tuesday evening, and Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, whom Democrats also suggest has potential interest in a 2016 bid, speaks Thursday evening (though before broadcast networks break into their coverage).

Those two would-be candidates, among others, have also laid the groundwork for a future run with their work this week away from the cameras.

“I think the trick is to not come off as too unseemly. A potential candidate wants to network as much as possible, but they don't want to step into the current candidate's spotlight, either,” said Phil Singer, the deputy communications director on Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.

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In this file photo, Brian Schweitzer, Governor of the State of Montana, takes part in a panel titled

 

For lesser-known candidates like O’Malley and Schweitzer, the convention is an opportunity to build relationships with key state activists and potential donors who might assist their fledgling candidacies in a few years.

Both O'Malley, who is more widely perceived to have further national ambition, and Schweitzer, are doing little to tamp down that speculation with their schedules this week. Speaking engagements with Iowa delegates (their state holds the first nominating contest each cycle) are on both agendas, and Schweitzer is also meeting with delegates from New Hampshire, the site of the nation’s first 2016 primary and the second overall nominating contest.

Addressing the Democratic convention, Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley says, "Facts are facts: No President since Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the Great Depression inherited a worse economy, bigger job losses, or deeper problems from his predecessor. But President Obama is moving America forward, not back."

“I'm really not thinking about anything but helping the president get re-elected. And that's what I'm focused on entirely,” O’Malley said at the Iowa breakfast this morning in reference to his recently-formed PAC, a step usually seen as a precursor to running for president.

But O'Malley and Schweitzer are mostly the exception this year than the rule. Many of the potential 2016 candidates are keeping a low profile, gladly taking a back seat to the fanfare on Obama's behalf this week, although Newark Mayor Cory Booker has also been busy making the rounds, whether aspiring for a state-wide race in New Jersey or perhaps something bigger.

Newark Mayor Cory Booker energetically outlines the new National Democratic Party platform.

Arguably the most formidable potential candidate in 2016, whose foray into the race would threaten to overshadow any other Democrat, is nowhere to be found this week in Charlotte. Instead, that potential candidate – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton – is literally halfway around the world on official business in Southeast Asia.

“If she wanted to do it, I think she'd have a very strong argument to make for why she should be the nominee and go onto the White House,” said Singer. “She's been pretty unequivocal in saying she doesn't want to run, so you have to take her at her word at this point.”

Delegates from Florida, a state in which Clinton beat Obama during the 2008 Democratic primary, gushed over the prospect of a second bid by the former first lady in 2016.

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“Who would I want to run in 2016? Hillary Clinton. That’s who I think would be great, if she wants to. I think she loves our country so much and she has so much experience and she would be a great president," said Elena McCullough, retired 24-year veteran of the Coast Guard from Wesley Chapel, Fla.

"Hillary has done such a fabulous job (as secretary of state); she is the best ever," added Beryle Buchman, a retired middle school public school English teacher from Plant City, Fla. "I think the fact that Obama appointed her shows that the party not only healed, but it’s stronger."

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Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton shake hands at the Ziguangge Pavilion in the Zhongnanhai leaders' compound in Beijing September 5, 2012.

Of course, Mrs. Clinton's most prominent advocate – her husband, former President Bill Clinton – will speak during Wednesday evening's prime-time session. But that speech is extremely unlikely to be used as a platform to pump up Hillary Clinton's 2016 credentials, especially since that speech will be the one to formally nominate the president for re-election.

Likewise, another high-profile potential candidate – Vice President Joe Biden – will largely use his high-profile speaking slot on Thursday night to serve as a “character witness” for Obama, according to senior campaign officials. But Biden will nonetheless enjoy a large spotlight that evening, broadcasting his brand of folksiness before a national audience of potential voters.

The vice president has strikingly refused to rule out his own run for president in 2016, though he told New York Magazine in a profile piece published this week that he doesn't know if he'll run in 2016, even if he could guarantee he'd be elected.

"I don’t know what the hell four years from now, three years from now, is gonna be like," said Biden, who would be 73-years-old by the time of the 2016 election. But he noted in the same interview that he has "no intention" of drifting easily into retirement if he feels as good as he does now.

Both Clinton (2008) and Biden (1988 and 2008) have previously sought the presidency, Biden with more mixed results than Clinton.

But there are other candidates with scant national experience whose names are lumped in with the crowd of potential 2016 candidates who are doing very little to further their prospects in Charlotte.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick tells the Democratic convention crowd it's time for Democrats to not let President Barack Obama to be "bullied out of office," saying, "we're Americans. We shape our own future."

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, for instance, will not deliver a speech at the convention, and is only set to make a brief daytrip to Charlotte. Other up-and-coming stars, like Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who delivered an impassioned speech on Tuesday, and Bay State Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren could also harbor higher aspirations.

NBC's Tom Curry and Andrew Rafferty contributed to this report.

David Goldman / AP

Democrats gather in Charlotte, N.C., to officially nominate President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden as the party's candidates for the 2012 presidential election.

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After last nights stellar line-up, I can't wait to see what tonight is going to bring to the momentum!

I have never been prouder to be a Democrat & showing America what values are important to us!

You can go ahead and collapse this comment, it won't change a damn thing!

  • 71 votes
#1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:38 PM EDT
Comment author avatarelliot-3020456Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If you slogged through last night's media coverage of the DNC convention, about two hours in you witnessed an upcoming media-narrative set into concrete through an uncanny flurry of coordination instituted by Obama's Media Palace Guards.

Within minutes and across all boundaries -- the networks, online and print media -- everyone was on the same page about how well done the Democratic convention was (CNN's David Gergen said, "One more night like this and Obama could blow the race wide open.") and how much more enthusiastic the convention crowd was compared to the RNC's last week.

Here's a short list of how this narrative was set even before I went to bed last night:

Politico's Dylan Byers: “So, frankly, there is more energy in Strickland’s speech than there was in the entire three days of Tampa…” His colleague Alexander Burns concurred: “Just a huge difference in energy between Tampa and Charlotte convention halls. Makes it easier for non-primetime speakers to sound strong.”

BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith: “This is exactly the convention people in this room wanted, unlike the RNC, which was aimed at a very specific TV audience.”

The Atlantic’s Garance Franke-Ruta: “There’s a kind of confidence to this convention I didn’t expect after all the hand-wringing in the lede-up. Tampa was a cool convention. This is going to be a hot one.”

CNN's Peter Hamby: “Republicans did a helluva job lowering expectations for this convention. Text from RNC delegate: ‘I’m officially jealous. The DNC looks way more exciting.’”

NBC’s Chuck Todd: “Passion so far at Dem convo is clearly FOR president. Last week, passion at the GOP convo was less FOR Romney and more AGAINST POTUS.”

Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart: “There is energy here.. Folks want to be here.”

But of course there's more excitement at Obama's convention than at Romney's. Whenyou have 15,000 Obama-worshipping journalists in an audience of only 5,000 delegates, how can you not explode the level of enthusiasm?

On the flipside, if you pack the same number of Obama-worshippers into a Republican convention, it's only going to have a dampening effect on enthusiasm, you know, especially among those there to report on enthusiasm levels.

Moreover, when you have the Washington Post's Dana Milbank writing about the corrupting influence of the Democrat convention on the media….

Do not be deceived by all that talk of delegates and floor speeches: This is a convention of the media, by the media and for the media. There are some 15,000 representatives of the media here for the convention, and only about 5,000 delegates. This mathematical imbalance means most journalists spend their time with other journalists at events sponsored by corporations and hosted by media organizations for the purpose of entertaining advertisers and promoting themselves to each other.

…and Politico's Jim VandeHei openly declaring that the media is completely infatuated with Obama….

The mainstream media tends to be quite smitten with the Obamas so I don’t know if we should over interpret it but there’s no doubt that’s sort of how all the taste makers in media as we talk what it does have a way shaping certainly the coverage in the morning. So I think you can anticipate that tomorrow is going to be quite glowing.

…what you essentially have is a DNC convention-crowd stacked with partisan ringers who will naturally report on an increase in their own enthusiasm.

Something else our "enthusiastic" media overlords are refusing to report this morning is that the tone at the RNC was intentionally more serious. Not only were Republicans competing with a potentially devastating hurricane, butt Republicans are also aware that this country is in serious trouble and looking for serious people to solve those problems -- a reality last night's Democrat convention refused to acknowledge as they shamelessly partied like it was 1999.

The bubble I witnessed the media report from last night was breathtaking. These out-of-touch Obama-worshippers gushed and gushed and gushed over a convention that celebrated only government, paid tribute to a dead Kennedy responsible for the drowning death of a young woman (without ever mentioning this) and shared in the sacrament of abortion of and birth control.

Meanwhile, out here in the real world….

The Selfish Generation's bill to our children just hit $16 trillion, 23 million people are desperate for work, our economy is shrinking, Afghan casualties are mounting, unemployment is increasing, manufacturing is contracting, and food stamp enrollment has just broken another record. And yet…

What I witnessed last night were thousands of Democrats and even more media typescelebrating as though the country is in great shape and enjoying flushest of times.

What is there to celebrate in a country where middle class incomes have fallen and poverty is increasing?

But celebrate Democrats and their media minions did, without ever once acknowledging or facing the reality of the situation just outside the convention hall -- celebrate they did, without ever once offering concrete solutions to the awful circumstances tens of millions face day in and day out.

Last night in that hall and from the media, what we witnessed was a sickening display by ubelievably selfish people completely oblivious to anything outside of aggrandizing the government, the culture of death, and a failed president whose only solution for the next four years is more of the same.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/05/Dems-media-party-like-its-1999

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

Hillary/Chelsea 2016

Bubba for First Man/First Husband?

  • 22 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

We had to change the channel from MSNBC to CSPAN in order to actually listen to the speakers and not hear people talk about the speeches. last week, i had to change it from CSPN because i got sick of hearing the same rehashed lies coming out of different mouths. Everyone plays the primetime speeches, but the earlier in the day speeches are the ones that really highlight the platform for the party as a whole, and i prefer to hear those without bias. The Dem speakers yesterday were great with a few exceptions...

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

Trashy, I wish you were right.

But none of those groups you've listed actually votes as a bloc. I know people in most of those groups -- and they are as likely to support Romney as they are to support Obama.

Of course, I can't understand it. People who are part of all those groups have all kinds of good reasons to vote for Obama -- and good reasons not to vote for Romney. But there are a lot of single-issue voters out there. And there are a lot of people who have been convinced against all logic that somehow voting for Romney is in their best interest!

  • 16 votes
#1.7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
Comment author avatarKumar-889209Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

ROMNEY RYAN 2012!!!

  • 18 votes
#1.8 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

I'm glad to see the hopefuls for 2016 start to introduce themselves to us. Seems to me they were more tactful than the folks at the GOP convention---those people seem to have been assuming that there will be an opening for them in 2016 since Romney will lose this year. Shouldn't they have been thinking of 2020?

  • 25 votes
#1.9 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

And heavenly day, what a show it was.

R.T. Rybak, Ted Strickland, Martin O'Malley, Deval Patrick, and Julian Castro.

Be still my heart. Republicans, eat your hearts out.

  • 29 votes
#1.10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJoAnnaSmith1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The Democrats have a very weak bench, Hillary and Biden are looking (as many Libs around here say) pale and stale. Corey Booker? The same Corey Booker that said:

"I have to just say from a very personal level, I'm not about to sit here and indict private equity," Booker, a Democrat, said in an appearance on NBC's Meet The Proess on Sunday "To me, it's just we're getting to a ridiculous point in America. Especially that I know I live in a state where pension funds, unions and other people invest in companies like Bain Capital. If you look at the totality of Bain Capital's record, they've done a lot to support businesses, to grow businesses."

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/cory-booker-slams-obama-campaign-ad-attacking-romneys/story?id=16390606#.UEeI8KPjbcs

Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley? The same Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, that said:

Mr. O'Malley, a top Obama campaign surrogate and widely rumored 2016 presidential candidate, has spent the past two days furiously backtracking on comments he made Sunday during an interview on CBS "Face the Nation" in which he answered “no” when asked if Americans are doing better now than they were in 2008 before President Obama was elected.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/4/after-the-better-off-gaffe-omalley-seeking-to-make/

Truthful Democrats have no chance of winning.

Julian Castro and Lizzy "Cherokee" Warren? Two more phony far left wingers, the country has had enough of that with Obama, although Warren fits the liar role quite nicely.

  • 14 votes
#1.11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

Leave it to you, JoAnna, to pick out the runts of the litter.

You forgot Deval Patrick and Julian Castro.

Nothing derisive to say about them? I'm waiting.

  • 15 votes
#1.12 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:28 PM EDT
Comment author avatarNo-More-For-44Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Guess what? God’s name has been removed from the Democratic National Committee platform.

This is the paragraph that was in the 2008 platform:

“We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”

Now the words “God-given” have been removed. The paragraph has been restructured to say this:

“We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

Usually I don't respond to JAS's nonsense, but once again she knows nothing of any substance. I've met Cory Booker a number of times, and he's respected for saying what he thinks and doing what's best for his contituents. If he decides to run for governor next year he'll clean Christie's clock.

That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans must march in lockstep to the RWNJ ideology or they're drummed out of the party, no matter what they believe or how their masters' policies affect their constituents. That's why their congressional approval rating is 10%. Democrats discuss policy - not blind ideology - and how it affects people. The Democrats don't threaten to cut people off - like Cheney did when the NE Republicans wouldn't toe the line. We're the party of thinking individuals as opposed to brainwashed zombies spewing paranoia and canned talking points.

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

No More - so what? This is a political convention, not a tent revival. it encompasses the interests of all people, not just the religious.

  • 17 votes
#1.15 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmickymac-2942076Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I always look to Feisty Redhead to get a sense for how the lunatic Left is feeling about things. From her comments so far about the DNC, I am taking a lot of heart. The way I look at it, if this years DNC is getting her this excited, then it can't be appealing to moderates, independents and swing voters. And seeing as it will be them and not the Feisty's of the world who will determine this election, I'm greatly encouraged.

You can't please Feisty and moderates at the same time.

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:58 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSeekingSanityExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No-More - aren't you tired of all your lies? The rest of us are. You're just a pitiful little piece of trash!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBob-2711464Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Oh Feisty you're at it again. You're about as truthful as Michelle Obama telling people that she has had such a hard life; Give me a brake, that is a load of crap.

It must be fun Feisty to sit around all day In your low income housing (which are nicer than the average apartment) collecting your welfare check's well you try to find a "job" siting on you're a$$ commenting on the stories produced by extremely biased news "outlet" NBCNews (where I believe they pay you for these radical beliefs). It's funny that you have Dumb Fux as your profile picture when the dumb Fu*ks are the ones you seem to worship. I don't see how you can be "more proud than ever to be a democrats" when your democrats (Obama) have raised the unemployment to above 8% and the national debt has just passed 16 trillion dollars. And what has Obama been doing. Oh, he's been doing hardball interviews with People Magazine and playing more golf than Tiger Woods well Michelle tells people she is connected with the middle class well wearing a $4,000 shirt.

But Feisty, if you get hard watching the DNC speeches it must be one helluva night!

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:12 PM EDT
Comment author avatarlisa s-1749992Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This collapsing of posts is becoming ridiculous. Feisty didn't say anything to get collapsed and neither did Kumar.

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
Comment author avatarORB 1943Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hillarity demonstrated back in 2008 that she is FAR TOO DEVISIVE to be an acceptable, let alone electable candidate. The Clinton sense of entitlement has to be flushed out into the Potomac.

  • 3 votes
#1.20 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmickymac-2942076Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Wait. Feisty's a dude??

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:22 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmickymac-2942076Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Enough with the comments collapsing people!!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:30 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbagdadjoe-1347766Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

does it matter? He/she/it is so far off the wall the point is moot.

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarArthur66Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

In this corner, we have Marco Rubio, Condi Rice, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal...

And in *this* corner, we have JOE BIDEN. BWAHAHAHA

  • 5 votes
#1.24 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

I really cant stand them Dems or their base but if Hillary was running in 2012 instead of Barry she would win. I think she has a good chance of winning in 2016 against Romney. But Biden? Seriously?

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

In the words of Barry "let me be clear" or "read my lips" I would not vote for Hillary but a lot of women would and that would help boost her up. I think the Dems need to focus on the now for the time being since this is not a clear slam dunk for Barry. Then again.......start focusing on 2016 dems. Just helps put a republican in office. Its easy to tell how nervous the dems are getting when you come on to FR and see all of the hate filled rants they are posting.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

Fisty will be in tears the night on November 6th. Can't wait til Romney wins in a landslide!

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

Feisty: "You can go ahead and collapse this comment, it won't change a damn thing!"

Oh, just like Obama hasn't changed a damn thing for the better!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

Just keep patting yourselves on your backs and telling yourselves everything's going to be OK, morons. You are the only people who are consistently stupid enough to keep believing the lies from The Obama and the rest of the Democrats. Bad weather, lie.. couldn't sell enough tickets to fill half the stadium. WTF is Biden's picture doing up there, looking at him reminds me of another great VP, Dan Quail, just way more dumb.

  • 2 votes
#1.29 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

"Wait. Feisty's a dude??"

No, "she/it" is actually several people who work for Media Matters/NBC

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

What party was in office during these wars:

World War One: DEMOCRATS

World War Two: DEMOCRATS

Korean War: DEMOCRATS

Vietnam: DEMOCRATS

We can all be proud of a party that got so many Americans killed so that Mexicans could have a country where they can just walk right in and take over.

  • 3 votes
#1.31 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

I called Fiesty out several weeks ago. She is definatly a plant. She is so excited about this convention.

Stalin held big parades to impress the people. So did Hitler. The Romans held all kinds of entertainment venues to impress and apease the people. That is what the Demo convention is all about.

The Dems belittled the Republicans for scanning the crowd for "token" blacks and hispanics. Anyone notice who the cameras were scanning last night?

  • 2 votes
#1.32 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

Personally, I was pretty darn impressed with Julian Castro.....I see a presidency in his future (or at least a vice presidency). He was an awesome speaker, and I enjoyed his speech very much. He's got big things coming up for him in the Democratic party, and I wish him all the luck!!!

  • 7 votes
#1.33 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

I couldn't agree with you more Feisty!!!

Pelosi/Reid 2016 ;o)

I couldn't agree with you more as well Didi. I was thinking the very same thing while watching/listening to him last night.

  • 6 votes
#1.34 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

There are certainly some angry folks on this post, not to mention, crude, classless and ill informed. What are they so afraid of? Intelligent discourse? Common sense? Especially you, Bob 2711..... You seem to have a real issue building there. Get some help; better yet turn off FOX and do some fact checking.

  • 7 votes
#1.35 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

Now if ROMNEY was too some how WIN that would be that 1,000 Years of darkness CHUCKY BOY was talking about!

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

No More 44 just gave me one more reason to keep voting democrat!

Give me the party with the least superstition any day. The repubs just need to roll over and die and let the Libertarians take the right side of the political party system. Maybe then, I can go back to not voting a straight ticket.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 7 votes
#1.37 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton/Warren 2016

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

I think the whole country's tired of slander and lies.

Bye bye, Tea Party!

  • 7 votes
#1.39 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

Crazy Uncle Joe Biden is 70 years old, avoided any military service, and will be 74 in 2016.

You think that the de-Pressed would not put his name in the ring when they kept telling us that McCain was to old to be President.

    #1.40 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

    It is so encouraging to see all the angry hate filled GUPpies on this blog. They are so jealous and so intimidated. It proves what a success the first night of the DNC was.

    • 5 votes
    #1.41 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

    Mike - Pelosi/Reid 2016? You are a true ahole. Those two are more morally bankrupt than the Clown in Chief we have now

    • 1 vote
    #1.42 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

    Yeah Didi - Juan, Julio or whatever the f his name is can speak with a teleprompter! That should get him some pres consideration right? Man you dems are a gullible lot

    • 2 votes
    #1.43 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

    Biden in 2016.....BIDEN???....Bwahahahaha!

      #1.44 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

      Tebow15

      Mike - Pelosi/Reid 2016? You are a true ahole. Those two are more morally bankrupt than the Clown in Chief we have now

      But far more trustworthy and much more truthful than you talibanian terrorists hiding within the republican party are by far. If Hillary doesn't run, then rest assured, I want someone even deeper to the left than the Clintons could ever be and Nancy Pelosi fits that bill perfect.

      • 2 votes
      #1.45 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

      @anna. Obviously you do not live here in Maryland. O'Malley is a horrible and mostly absent governor. Please save us from his being any possible Democratic Presidential candidate. If he cannot manage MD, imagine what he could do to ruin the country.

        #1.46 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

        God’s name has been removed from the Democratic National Committee platform.

        Good. Why just prop up one religion?

        This is just a baby step in the removal of the word God from so many things the religious right branded it with in the 50's during their fear mongering campaign.

        Tell me. What use does a God have with their name being put on currency? Especially when wealth flew in the face of their alleged son's teachings? Religion used a cold war to further their agenda and attempted to brand everything as their own.

        Pretty much like they did with the holiday tree in December.

        Pray to whomever you want, but stop trying to stamp your brand all over everything.

        The horrors of not having the word God stamped onto something as hateful and divisive as politics.

        • 2 votes
        #1.47 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

        If Pelosi does not get in rehab. she'll be dead of cirrhosis of the Liver. Must of taken a team to sober her up enough for a somewhat coherent speech. Valium to keep her from going into a DT fit.

        Probably was dead drunk an hour off the stage.

          #1.48 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:03 AM EDT

          Look for 2016....THE MOVIE by the Schindler's list guy....DNC bOOOOED GOD and Israel!!

          it is SOOOO sad that clinton's talk was not as SHORT and to the point as EASTWOOD's....
          WE hired you to do a job, you failed, now it is time to replace you!!!
          blame stupid Bush.. Clinton supported the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, a law dating back to the Great Depression that separated banking from high-risk financial speculation. Robert Rubin, who had been Clinton's first treasury secretary, helped broker the final deal on Capitol Hill that enabled the repeal legislation to pass. Some financial historians say the repeal of the law paved the way for banks to invest in risky investments like mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations that played a role in the 2008 financial meltdown.

            #1.49 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

            The Dems have a party and the NATIONAL DEBT hits $$$16 TRILLION..they can not even count all the zeros in that crazy number!!...talk about a National DISASTER!!! Have Jimmy Fallon explain how many somollians, claims, bucks, dough, bread, etc that is to our baby -minded obama!! THE BABY Obama DOES NOT WANT MORE JOBS, MORE ECONOMY GROWTH!!!

            obama says he would grade himself 'incomplete'...in my school that was an ..F !! You did not try, you Failed !! Again, twist the truth. Chicago MOBpolitics!!

            How many" black chidder-rhen "were murdered while Rahm spoke??!! Another great leader..NOT!!

            Like Eastwood said, We the people hired you, you have not done the job, now it is time to Fire you!!

            Mouchweelll talked about a rusty beat -up car that Barry Soetoro drove while they were dating, and tried to make it sound OK that with high gas prices and no jobs , Americans can not drive at all!!..Her dad made the equivalent of $$300K in the 70’s and they let their daughter get in such a rust heap??.DOES NOT EQUATE!!!..Danger, /Danger Will Robinson!!!

            obama had shoes too small??? He was working for a law firm in Chicago..SaY WHAT?!!! Why are both obamas disbarred?!! Lavish vacations at tax payer expense and $$500 tennis shoes!!!??talk about her big beer arms and nothing about her LARGE french-fry rear!!

            She did not say what conversations she 'valued' from Barry's father, Frank M. Davis, the Marxist pornographer in Hawaii. Dreams of my father....or of Barry's brother George still living in a hut in Kenya!!

            Dems take GOD out of their platform, of course, obama is the messiah, why look to a faith-filled God??

            they read letters from the peasants while they feast at the tax funded, Chief prepared expensive meals..regular Americans could not afford one of those meals a year, much less nightly!! talk about how bad We the PEOPLE have it, REALLY!!.. Let them EAT cake, right?!! where does Mr. Prez get his news?? On the golf course while drinking with Biden?!! If they were to tell the truth, it should have been, people are writing to the Prez. about how he has dismantled the Middle-Class, ruined the economy, people a losing homes and jobs, HE needs to STOP what he is doing!!

              #1.50 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 9:07 PM EDT
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              Comment author avatarJerry-450822Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              What proof have we that Wallstreet and Detroit were
              in danger of collapse, in 2009? Merely the word of
              beggars.

              Upon the first breath of 2009, from board room to
              board room, from bank to mortgage house to credit
              company to dealership, the murmurs were spoke that
              the Most Junior of Senators, newly promoted, with
              the Most Junior of Auditors and Accountants, newly
              appointed, were afoot in Washington, with soft hands
              at the helm and a soft touch on the purse. All, so
              easily moved by a quavering voice, a sad song of woe
              and a teary eye, that any CEO so daring, could open
              the hand on the purse and be lent moneys by the
              buckets full. The word of the fools in the House so
              White spread far and wide until the rush on the
              treasury, became a stampede.

              Now, to defend their treachery, the Keepers of the
              Loose Purse parade before us as if heroes who stared
              down the wolf at the door, rather than rubes who
              fell for the carney at the vault. And where of the
              moneys they so readily lent? So desperate were the
              beggars of Wallstreet and Detroit that the first
              billions paid were not to the wolves at the door,
              nor the creditor at the window, but to the manager
              on the bonus, and the CEO on the yacht. Our money by
              the trillions, cast upon the wind, to no account,
              save those of braggerts, eager for another hand in
              the till.

              Why would the wolves of Wallstreet and Detroit
              defend the fools in the Whitehouse? If you had a
              Soft Touch in the Oval Office, wouldn't you want him
              re-elected?

              And of the Most Junior Senator and his most Junior
              Accountants, who trumpet themselves the heroes of
              Wallstreet and Detroit? They parade before us,
              wearing their deceit like medals won on an actual
              field of battle! They wave their ignorance like
              ribbons before an adoring throng of fools.

              Still, I got to give credit where credit is due.
              Democrats, and none better than Barack Obama, sell
              sh!t for chocolate better than anyone alive. They
              can wrap it like candy, but I wouldn't touch it,
              and I damn sure wouldn't eat it.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

              Nice cut and paste...perhaps you'd be so kind as to give credit to that ACTUAL writer.

              • 4 votes
              #3.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

              hopefuls look at 2016 !!!! Surely they are talking about the MOVIE 2016!!!

                #3.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                Desperate attempt at coming up with another Christie or Rubio- fail! Castro is a dink

                  #3.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:43 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  Comment author avatarDa NoidRestored

                  Who will be the nominee in 2016 for the Democrats?

                  The simplest answer will be to wait and see who the conservative fish-wrap National Journal names as it's "Most Liberal __________" for 2015. It's an honor that they traditionally reserve for the eventual nominee so that the minions can point and say, "Oh, look! Oh, look!"

                  You've listed the usual suspects but National Journal named Senator Kirsten Gillibrand "Most Liberal Senator" for 2011...which is remarkable since Senator Bernie Sanders is a self-described Socialist.

                  • 22 votes
                  Reply#4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                  Julian Castro may well be nominated for VP or get a cabinet post. The kid made a stellar showing at the convention.

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

                  It's a s simple as A B C - anybody but Clinton.

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

                  Win or lose in November, the president has long said that 2012 will be his last run for elective office, meaning that Democrats likely will have a wide-open playing field to battle for the nomination in four years – depending on the intentions of two party heavyweights, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

                  This is just so ridiculous that it even made it into the article....If he wins he will not be eligible to run for President again and any other national office would be beneath him. When he looses the DNC would certainly not consider him four years later. As for Joe Biden...weren't the on the left complaining that McCain was too old to be President during the last election? I know Biden is getting more and more childlike as the days go by but honestly it isn't because he is getting younger. As for Hillary...she missed her opportunity and her time as Secretary of State has just damaged her global credibility moving forward.

                  I'm thinking Michael O'Brian is kissing up in hopes of being a press secretary some day.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                  Da Noid... regarding your comment on Bernie Sanders -- a socialist is not a liberal. A liberal recoils at the ideas of socialism. Socialism elevates the state above the individual. That is contrary to liberalism. Socialism is NOT merely an extreme form of liberalism any more than fascism is an extreme form of conservatism.

                  The association of socialism with liberalism (and conservatism with fascism) was foisted upon us by unfortunate persons who, having no reasoned response to an idea, can only resort to name-calling, and either "socialist" or "fascist" are ugly names to call anyone who believes in human dignity and freedom.

                  • 4 votes
                  #4.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                  I would take Bill Clinton over Obama anyday.

                  At least Bill knew when to give under pressure for the greater good of the people.

                  Obama isn't that smart.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:45 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarborder joeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  The Dems have a party and the NATIONAL DEBT hits $$$16 TRILLION..they can not even count all the zeros in that crazy number!!...talk about a National DISASTER!!! Have Jimmy Fallon explain how many somollians, claims, bucks, dough, bread, etc that is to our baby -minded obama!! THE BABY Obama DOES NOT WANT MORE JOBS, MORE ECONOMY GROWTH!!!

                  obama says he would grade himself 'incomplete'...in my school that was an ..F !! You did not try, you Failed !! Again, twist the truth. Chicago MOBpolitics!!

                  How many" black chidder-rhen "were murdered while Rahm spoke??!! Another great leader..NOT!!

                  Like Eastwood said, We the people hired you, you have not done the job, now it is time to Fire you!!

                  Mouchweelll talked about a rusty beat -up car that Barry Soetoro drove while they were dating, and tried to make it sound OK that with high gas prices and no jobs , Americans can not drive at all!!..Her dad made the equivalent of $$300K in the 70’s and they let their daughter get in such a rust heap??.DOES NOT EQUATE!!!..Danger, /Danger Will Robinson!!!

                  obama had shoes too small??? He was working for a law firm in Chicago..SaY WHAT?!!! Why are both obamas disbarred?!! Lavish vacations at tax payer expense and $$500 tennis shoes!!!??talk about her big beer arms and nothing about her LARGE french-fry rear!!

                  She did not say what conversations she 'valued' from Barry's father, Frank M. Davis, the Marxist pornographer in Hawaii. Dreams of my father....or of Barry's brother George still living in a hut in Kenya!!

                  Dems take GOD out of their platform, of course, obama is the messiah, why look to a faith-filled God??

                  they read letters from the peasants while they feast at the tax funded, Chief prepared expensive meals..regular Americans could not afford one of those meals a year, much less nightly!! talk about how bad We the PEOPLE have it, REALLY!!.. Let them EAT cake, right?!! where does Mr. Prez get his news?? On the golf course while drinking with Biden?!! If they were to tell the truth, it should have been, people are writing to the Prez. about how he has dismantled the Middle-Class, ruined the economy, people a losing homes and jobs, HE needs to STOP what he is doing!!

                  it looked like the podium was a wash tub for all their dirty undies/socks/stained blue dresses, but with SWIMMING Ted Kennedy ,they made it clear that it represents the ill-gotten money the progressive-marxists are famous for looting----bootlegging, tax evasion, ballot- box stuffing (LBJ&JFK),gun running, Treasury looting, drug cartels, prostitution( ala Clinton&JFK) Mob connected jimmy Hoffa unions,the true 1%ers of the USA!!!! SOBER UP!!!

                  if libs care about our troops , why are they put in jail for voicing their dislike of this presidency?? why are they still in Arab countries being murdered by those they are protecting, why are more deployed every day?? Why were they not home for Christmas as obama promised!!??.Why is Defense funding being cut?!! ……why was NASA destroyed!!??

                  It just does NOT matter how well you give the teleprompter speech...the glaring fact is she knows it is a lie and we know it is lie...

                  IT IS THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!..and BozoHussan has done nothing to fix it in 4 years!!! ONLY made it much WORSE!!!

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

                  Hillary 2016

                  • 7 votes
                  #4.8 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                  Hello America!

                  I woke up this morning to find that at the DNC they are saying that "we all belong to the government". I guess they invented a new form of slavery.

                  Its incredible that that is exactly the way the liberal democrats think and they are DEAD WRONG here.

                  The citizens of the United States own this country, as Clint Eastwood said so well. He said, "We own this country. Politicians are employees of ours".

                  The democrats need to be kicked out of office with their type of thinking, starting with Obama, Biden, Reid, and Pelosi. Its sad that such an unqualified man could become President. Now our debt is over $16 trillion, unemployment is over 8% for a record number of months, and the economy is anemic. Now they think we belong to the government or the government owns us. I say, no thanks.

                  Please vote for Romney and Ryan this November.

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.9 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                  Might as well start the vetting process now since Mr. Obama has lost all hope for re-election with his "Forward" theme to spend more money and implement his agenda without Congressional approval.

                  We can start with Hillary Clinton's Chief of Staff, Whitewater, Bollywood campaign contributor thrown under the HillaryWagon, and the ties between Haiti donations and Mr. Clinton's Global Initiative group.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

                  I would take Bill Clinton over Obama anyday.

                  I agree completely! Bill Clinton was willing to work with the Republicans and I believe Hillary would too! Obama refuses to work with anyone, even those who helped get him where he is today!

                  THE AMATEUR, by Edward Klein.... get it! A great source of information...!!

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                  WTF is Biden's mug doing in that class of 2016 photo?!?!? You can't be serious- he's the personification of Jeff Dunham's puppet, not a viable candidate for President.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.12 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                  Agree with the Clinton deal. I would take Bill over Barry any day and I was no fan of Clinton. And I think deep down most of the dems today would take Bill over Barry.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.13 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:53 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  Comment author avatarZMan2012Restored

                  I notice that Obama, rather "coincidentally," sent Hillary to China while the Democratic Convention is underway. Can't have her standing in the limelight too much for fear people will start thinking "if only we selected her as our candidate instead of him."

                  My only hope for the Democratic party is that they run someone who isn't an extremest/leftist like this guy, in 2016.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                  ZMan, I hear Wal-Mart has a sale on tinfoil. Maybe it is time for a new hat!

                  • 5 votes
                  #5.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                  As Secretary of State, she is duty bound to stay out of the politics of the administration. That's why no sitting SOS speaks at these things, or participates in his/her boss's re-election campaigns.

                  • 9 votes
                  #5.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I've said that if Willard didn't have a lead going into last night, it was game over. Well, last night showed why I kept saying that.

                  I also want to comment on the right wing hatefest on First Read immediately after Michelle Obama's speech. Let me say that the wingnut right is feeling this election slip away and they are now going through the various stages of grief. The first one is denial, the second stage is anger so hate away righties. Your hate makes us that much stronger.

                  • 31 votes
                  Reply#6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:47 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarin the middle-2260511Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  It's ironic that you refer to them as hateful while in the same breath calling them names twice.

                  • 7 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                  The democrats couldn't fill the stadium, so they're pulling the big party inside.

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                  Hatefest?. You must be talking about all of the hate spewed forth from the Left during the Republican Cenvention. Why is it those on the Left are blind to their own hatred? Just mention Palin, Bachmann, or G. W. Bush , and watch all of the hateful comments. Palin was Gov. of Alaska, and has never held a national position. But one mention of her name, and the Left goes apoplectic.

                  On another note, I hope O'Malley does run. Being from MD, I can tell you this guy is an empty suit. He has done for the state, except raise taxes, fees and tolls. 24 times in his six years as Gov. to be exact. All he ever does is spew out meaningless platitudes. He is a joke, a bad joke. Unfortunately, I along with other people in MD who did not vote for him have to suffer the consequences.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

                  Hillary Clinton: America's thurst for drugs is why Mexicans are being killed by drug cartels.

                  Honey, Mexicans are being killed by Mexicans because Mexicans OVERPOPULATED Mexico.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                  @ Al in Visalia CA. Personally I think Michelle Obama was fantastic, but she always is and has been. But she's not running for President anymore than Ann Romney is. So, basically they both are irrelevant when it comes to picking a President.

                  As for the Election slipping away from the RNC, I wouldn't jump on your ban wagon just yet. Obama didn't have really good news yesterday. 1st Stock Market goes down due to report that construction spending decline, the worst in a year. Also US Manufacturing new orders, production and employment all fell in August. Based on this, bet that Friday's Job report is going to look miserable for Obama.

                  2nd Gas prices heading back up again, which means everything else is going to go up.

                  Last but not least, a poll showing 52% believe Obama does not deserve re-election. Now, that doesn't seem like a really good sign he's a shoe in by any mean.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

                  Right wing hatred? If you are saying Mittwit is right wing you are stupid enough to also think there is a difference between Romney and Obama.

                    #6.6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:44 PM EDT
                    Red_CloudDeleted
                    Red_CloudDeleted

                    The Dems have a party and the NATIONAL DEBT hits $$$16 TRILLION..they can not even count all the zeros in that crazy number!!...talk about a National DISASTER!!! Have Jimmy Fallon explain how many somollians, claims, bucks, dough, bread, etc that is to our baby -minded obama!! THE BABY Obama DOES NOT WANT MORE JOBS, MORE ECONOMY GROWTH!!!

                    obama says he would grade himself 'incomplete'...in my school that was an ..F !! You did not try, you Failed !! Again, twist the truth. Chicago MOBpolitics!!

                    How many" black chidder-rhen "were murdered while Rahm spoke??!! Another great leader..NOT!!

                    Like Eastwood said, We the people hired you, you have not done the job, now it is time to Fire you!!

                    Mouchweelll talked about a rusty beat -up car that Barry Soetoro drove while they were dating, and tried to make it sound OK that with high gas prices and no jobs , Americans can not drive at all!!..Her dad made the equivalent of $$300K in the 70’s and they let their daughter get in such a rust heap??.DOES NOT EQUATE!!!..Danger, /Danger Will Robinson!!!

                    obama had shoes too small??? He was working for a law firm in Chicago..SaY WHAT?!!! Why are both obamas disbarred?!! Lavish vacations at tax payer expense and $$500 tennis shoes!!!??talk about her big beer arms and nothing about her LARGE french-fry rear!!

                    She did not say what conversations she 'valued' from Barry's father, Frank M. Davis, the Marxist pornographer in Hawaii. Dreams of my father....or of Barry's brother George still living in a hut in Kenya!!

                    Dems take GOD out of their platform, of course, obama is the messiah, why look to a faith-filled God??

                    they read letters from the peasants while they feast at the tax funded, Chief prepared expensive meals..regular Americans could not afford one of those meals a year, much less nightly!! talk about how bad We the PEOPLE have it, REALLY!!.. Let them EAT cake, right?!! where does Mr. Prez get his news?? On the golf course while drinking with Biden?!! If they were to tell the truth, it should have been, people are writing to the Prez. about how he has dismantled the Middle-Class, ruined the economy, people a losing homes and jobs, HE needs to STOP what he is doing!!

                    it looked like the podium was a wash tub for all their dirty undies/socks/stained blue dresses, but with SWIMMING Ted Kennedy ,they made it clear that it represents the ill-gotten money the progressive-marxists are famous for looting----bootlegging, tax evasion, ballot- box stuffing (LBJ&JFK),gun running, Treasury looting, drug cartels, prostitution( ala Clinton&JFK) Mob connected jimmy Hoffa unions,the true 1%ers of the USA!!!! SOBER UP!!!

                    if libs care about our troops , why are they put in jail for voicing their dislike of this presidency?? why are they still in Arab countries being murdered by those they are protecting, why are more deployed every day?? Why were they not home for Christmas as obama promised!!??.Why is Defense funding being cut?!! ……why was NASA destroyed!!??

                    It just does NOT matter how well you give the teleprompter speech...the glaring fact is she knows it is a lie and we know it is lie...

                    IT IS THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!..and BozoHussan has done nothing to fix it in 4 years!!! ONLY made it much WORSE!!!

                      #6.9 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 5:56 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      After all, "the government is the only thing that we all belong to."

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                      Very true. Community unites us all. Make sure everyone votes.

                      • 4 votes
                      #7.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                      In the old America, government was only a neccessary evil, not to be trusted, and not to belong too.

                      • 8 votes
                      #7.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

                      Perhaps the government in England was considered "evil" by the founders of our nation, but I doubt any of them, since they were setting up this government, considered ours as "evil" - this is a fantasy invented by the "tea party" right. And it behooves us to participate in our government, not to constantly denigrate it. It would appear that folks like you prefer anarchy.

                      Please, join the rest of us in the 21st century.

                      • 6 votes
                      #7.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

                      I now understand the liberals problem. They have it exactly backwards. We DO NOT belong to the government, the government belongs to US.

                      ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!

                      • 5 votes
                      #7.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                      I hate to differ but we don't belong to the government. THE GOVERNMENT BELONGS TO US

                      • 4 votes
                      #7.6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                      Now I understand the right-wing's problem - they are only able to grasp talking points. Anybody that heard the words in the video IN CONTEXT understands what it means. If you can't, that is your problem. This is an example of the hypocrites on the right that whine about Obama trying to divide our country, then using something as inane as this in an attempt to do exactly that. It would be a perfect example of paranoia if it weren't so obviously fake.

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                      LWNJ, you should have paid more attention in school! The founders distrusted any government that got too powerful, even the one they were setting up. That's why they put in all those safeguards that you lefties like to ignore!

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.8 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                      Left Wing Nut Job is a good name for you. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and not say you are completely stupid, but just uneducated in the ways of your left wing party. Run a search on Alabama and Agenda 21 and see what comes up. I doubt you will actually do it since your mind seems to be completely closed, judging from your post. But if you run the search on Bing the first return will tell you all you need to know about the secret agenda of Bill Clinton, his wife, Obama and all the Democrats. They are pushing a one world government on the US and most people have no idea it is even happening.

                      Clinton signed Executive Order Number 12852 on June 29, 1993 that circumvented the Senate and the Congress and was foisted upon the American people in secret. Most still don't know about it. But anytime you hear "green", "Sustainable", "intelligent development", "smart growth" etc. you are hearing about UN Agenda 21. It was designed to steal the US from the people. It changes the fact that government derives its authority from the people and makes the government the supreme authority over the people. Kinda like Obama's idea that we all belong to the government! Only his definition of that is not the same as how most Democrats take it to mean. We are all being sold a bill of goods that we don't want, that is unless you want to get rid of private property ownership, have all of America belong to the international countries i.e. UN. But don't listen to me, look it up and read it for yourself....

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.9 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                      Yeah, it is obviously ME that is stupid...

                        #7.10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                        A one-world democracy would be awesome. It'd be just what we need.

                          #7.11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

                          jmo, you don't seem to be what is called a "deep thinker", or are you? Did that just roll off your fingers without giving it any thought at all or what? First off a one world government would not be a democracy, it would be a dictatorship. It would have to be to keep countries like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and many others "in line".

                          We have enough problems with a democracy here in America, especially when it comes to elections. If you throw in all the other people from all over the world there would be no way they could agree on anything, so a stalemate would be of almost Biblical proportions. Only a dictatorship would work....and guess what? It would be those nasty rich corporation types in charge....You know, those that front for the ultra rich of the world, the same as they do now....

                            #7.12 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                            it is SOOOO sad that clinton's talk was not as SHORT and to the point as EASTWOOD's....
                            WE hired you to do a job, you failed, now it is time to replace you!!!
                            blame stupid Bush.. Clinton supported the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, a law dating back to the Great Depression that separated banking from high-risk financial speculation. Robert Rubin, who had been Clinton's first treasury secretary, helped broker the final deal on Capitol Hill that enabled the repeal legislation to pass. Some financial historians say the repeal of the law paved the way for banks to invest in risky investments like mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations that played a role in the 2008 financial meltdown.

                              #7.13 - Sun Sep 9, 2012 6:04 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Andrew Cuomo, hands down, would be the best person to beat whoever the pukes put up in 2016 (it won't be Romney, unless he's a sado-maschist and wants to lose again). Cuomo has governed NY as a centrist - he's worked well in a very bi-partisian way with the Republican controlled State Senate, he's reformed and cut taxes, he balanced the budget with the assistance of public workers, he's trying to get the most out of fracking without killing the environment, and yes, he's the champion of marriage equality here, but aside from that liberal point, he is not a tax and spend liberal in any manner whatsoever. He's reformed the way NY gov't deals with private businesses, and put in place reforms which are attracting business back to NY. He ushered in the real property tax cap. He's put in place meaningful education reforms. Oh, and his approval ratings in NY (well above the 60s, closer to 70%), are way higher than Crispy Cream's in NJ. Put another way, WE NEED A NEW YORKER IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#8 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                              Thanks for the report from NY, pat. Why do you think Cuomo is keeping a low profile at the convention this week and not speaking? Does he get along with Gillibrand?

                              • 9 votes
                              #8.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
                              Comment author avatarAlan, NJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                              I agree that Cuomo is the only serious contender on the list assuming Biden and Clinton do not run.

                              Biden will never be President.

                              Elizabeth Warren for President...ROFLMA.

                              Patrick is too liberal. I think its too early for Booker. He may run against Christie in 2013 but on current form I think he will lose. If he runs in 2016/17 I think he will be the next Governor of NJ. However, if Lautenburg retires then he would be a strong bet for Senator.

                              The Democratic bench is kind of bare right now but 4 years is a long time.

                              • 5 votes
                              #8.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
                              Comment author avatarAlan, NJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                              Collapsed for that post? (8.2)

                              Too funny. Go on Make My Day.

                              Still having your little meetings in the DDI? Well watch out, the hackers are about and you guys are pretty dumb.

                                #8.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:46 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarCaesar Augustus-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                DDI = KuKluxKlan

                                Alan I never see you post anything collapse worthy. You seem to be civil. Good luck

                                • 1 vote
                                #8.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                                Alan: Of all the conservatives this liberal feels they are the least likely to deserve to be collapsed. I wish you could see the light.

                                Obama/Biden 2012 The Hill in16

                                • 4 votes
                                #8.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:05 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarAlan, NJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                @Tea Tards and Liars

                                You are a good little Koch sucker aren't you Alan??

                                Are you claiming I am gay in some way? If you called me a house n....r would you be called out as a racist? But using a gay slur is acceptable? Seems to me you are debasing gay men by attempting to insult me with your juvenile pun.

                                Maybe the Democratic Party and progressives are not as inclusive as they like to think. You seem to be harboring some homophobic feelings and psychologically that usually means your are probably repressing your homosexual instincts. Or maybe you're pissed that right wingers stole the term tea-bagging from you?

                                • 3 votes
                                #8.8 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:27 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarnycguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                .....really.......I have never seen such a pathetic string of lightweights in one place.....the Dumbocrats really have nothing to say and nowhere to run...Cuomo caved in to the unions already and they squashed his attempt at reform........enjoy the next four years under the leadership of Romney/Ryan!

                                • 1 vote
                                #8.10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:41 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarin the middle-2260511Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                No New Yorkers belong in the White House. They'll take our soft drinks in the name of good health!!! Snobbish nuts already (and incorrectly) think they set the standard for the whole world, we don't need them in a position where they can actually do it.

                                  #8.11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                                  Sounds like flawless Tea Wacko conservative logic to me.

                                  It would because a moron would beat you in a battle of wits.

                                    #8.12 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                                    Tea Tards are Liars banned, rereg of Hugh Class=. Multiple Crabby Taddy also banned.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.13 - Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:45 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    If/when the President is re-elected and the Republican Congress no longer has to worry about making him a one-term President will they start to compromise on issues they were able to have bipartisan support for in the past? If they continue to play the obstructionist game if the President is re-elected people will flat out say No More and vote them out in droves including the state houses. If they start compromising especially on issues that traditionally had bipartisan support the country gets better faster and the people will still vote them out in droves because it would be clear they kept the country from moving forward costing us job after job after job. Derned if you do Derned if you don't assuming the President wins re-election. Peace, Love, Chicken Wings and remember Republican, Democrat, Independent or something else we are all citizens of the great nation!!

                                    • 19 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                                    It could be a lot like Clinton's second term. Remember how Republicans shut down Congress in 1995, in an effort to make Clinton a one-term President. After he won re-election, he accomplished a lot his second term. Republicans didn't have the same political will to blindly oppose him anymore, and he balanced the budget, reformed welfare, created more than 22 million jobs, signed the Brady bill (gun safety legislation), etc.

                                    Obama's second term might be extremely effective, if Republicans repeat their 1990s behavior. They may decide to focus on improving the country to help them with 2016 elections.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #9.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                                    They will compromise just as much as the current admin has for the last 4 years. This is not a one sided issue, and ignorant people trying to blame only one side is exactly what has perpetuated the issue.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #9.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                                    in the middle...yeah, not so much the middle, huh?

                                    Obama has attempted compromise, far more than the right has, and it led to the right being able to claim he didn't do as much as he could have, since they spent all their time blocking his attempts at compromise. Try using Google...look up filibuster. Or just watch the video of Yertl the Turtle basically saying that the good of the country wasn't the issue...that what was important was making Obama a one-term president. Look up all the bills that were put forth that were originally penned by Republicans but, once Obama backed them, even the Republican authors voted against them. Yeah, let's hear all about compromise.

                                    You can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #9.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

                                    Obama compromised.

                                    Gitmo is still open

                                    He kept our troops in Iraq like GWB wanted

                                    He increased troop size in afganistan like bush wanted

                                    He continued the bush stimulous

                                    He bailed out the banks like bush wanted

                                    He signed the patriot act like bush wanted

                                    He signed the NDAA like republicans wanted.

                                    He compromised alright.

                                      #9.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                                      I did not watch it, I did have "Mentalist" reruns to watch after all. However, I did see the pictures and noticed that Michelle actually had on a decent pair of shows. I was glad to see that. However, I did have lunch with my financial adviser today and he said we can't do much until after the election because if Obama is re elected the market will tank and and we need to sell before then.

                                        #9.6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                                        Yeah, mary, because the market has done so poorly under Obama so far. Except that it hasn't. Geez...reality is such a pain, isn't it?

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #9.7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:25 PM EDT
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                                        Comment author avatarNice-2149067Restored

                                        The DNC was pitiful.

                                        Essentially, "ask not what you can do for your country, but what you can get from other peoples taxes"

                                        Eddie Kennedy's Big Brother would be a Republican in this day & age.

                                        Pitiful attempt to purchase votes with government freebies.

                                        • 7 votes
                                        Reply#10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                                        Talk of 2016 should not be allowed. We have had enough of 2012 already. How about a single term 7 or 8 year presidency? Enough of this marry-go-round

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                                        Impeachment rates would go up and lame VPs would be Pres.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #11.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                                        Change - I have beeen saying for a few years now we need the following consitutional changes:

                                        1) a single 6 year term for the pres and vice pres.

                                        2) any federally elected or executive appointed position can not continue to hold office and run for a DIFFERENT office at the same time - ex. the VP could not run for Pres while still serving as the VP or a Senator could not run for pres (including primaries) while still serving in the senate. The taxpayers should not be paying for a person to be seeking higher office.

                                        3) THe run for Pres/VP should be publicly financed - get all private money out of the game.

                                        4) ANyone can run ads in support of a candidate - but they can not do it annonymously and they have to be people not businesses or pacs.

                                        5) Public airwaves (network TV) must give all candidates a certain amount of airtime during the campaign season (labor day to election day) - candidates can use or waste the time as they see fit, but would be nice if they assumed we all had brains and gave us facts not platitudes.

                                        6) Do away with the inane conventions.

                                        7) Primaries have 4 - one in each time zone - and rotate which goes first. None of this "tradition' of Iowa and NH having to go first often times great candidates are eliminated in these primaries that do not truly reflect the nation.

                                        • 9 votes
                                        #11.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                                        holly - you're brilliant

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                                        Rank order voting. Choose your first pick second pick third pick however many you want so if your first choice loses your choice goes to the second and so on until you either have no further picks or someone wins with 50%+

                                        Not making third parties work harder to get on the ballot.

                                        Give more credit to states. When 11 states are only needed to win the election there is something wrong when 39 states refuse to vote for a man and he becomes president.

                                        That's just to name a few.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #11.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                                        Hollykb ~ I like most of your proposals. Not sure about #2. Maybe if campaigns weren't allowed to start before June, with primaries in August and conventions in September, this would have the same effect as preventing officials from spending their entire term campaigning instead of governing. As far as #6, I like being able to see a national forum for up and coming politicians, to hear the platforms. They don't need to go on for 3 days, though.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

                                        6 tops.

                                          #11.6 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                          Holly...maybe some sense would come back to the process with your ideas and all that crazy money spent could be used for something useful.

                                            #11.7 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

                                            Judy - I alos like to hear the up and commers - if a party wants a convention fine but not at taxpayers expense ( something like $36 million for both), and Ted while I dont like rank order voting it sue beats what we have now, I would be real happy to eliminate the Electoral College.

                                              #11.8 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 12:26 PM EDT
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                                              Comment author avatarNice-2149067Restored

                                              SO the message is that everyone should get the same opportunity? Is that the next great cause of the democrats?

                                              I assume that your plan to accomplish this noble goal is the same as every other plan that the democrats have.... something like this?...

                                              Step 1: Collect more taxes from citizens and inefficiently distribute it to the people who vote for you.

                                              Step 2: oh, all done.

                                              Well thats quite an opportunity you have created. Well done.

                                              • 5 votes
                                              Reply#12 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                              Democrats are not for equal opportunity. Remember when Reagan was runing and the Democrats went ape s h i t when ever one of his old movies ran on local TV?

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #12.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                              They aren't for equal opportunity. They would shut down FOX News if they could find a legal way to do it. They would put everyone on welfare if they could find a way to support no one working. Why? Because they want you to think that if you're on welfare you have to vote for them or you will lose all your money and die. I lived in Denmark, super socialist country, for two years. The people there have become lazy and dependent on their government. It is not a good thing, and the production (hence the real wealth of the people) goes down. We DO NOT want this for our country.

                                              Republicans are not against women. Half of them are women. Republicans are not against minorities - we think they are capable of getting the same jobs and education by sheer ability rather than just because they are a minority.

                                              VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!

                                                #12.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:51 PM EDT
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                                                DNC convention was like watching a Comedy Central rerun on Tuesdays.....the DNC also spent another 5 million to have images of debbie wasserman schultz put on delayed broadcast so staff could photoshop her face to make her look somewhat human..thank goodness for bucket fill and brush filter.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                Reply#13 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                                she is sexy in my eyes

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #13.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

                                                Old Grumpy Radio, If President Obama gets re-elected without a majority in the congress and Senate the last four years will have been picnic compared to the next four years.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #13.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                                                she makes hillary look attractive. that is one ugly woman dear lord.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #13.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:01 PM EDT
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                                                Republicans the left behind movie

                                                • 12 votes
                                                Reply#14 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

                                                oh i mean left behind..for good

                                                • 11 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:28 PM EDT
                                                Comment author avatarNice-2149067Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                How is it possible for all the comments from the right get collapsed? Ohhh thats right.... communists don't like free speech.

                                                I am sorry... about my other posts, please forgive me. I won't say anything negative about liberals anymore. OBAMA is the greatest President EVER. I won't question him again I promise.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#16 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                                nice try

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #16.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                                                what did you say Obama was a nice negro when they callaped you..please tell me

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #16.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                                                no elvis. its true. I want to grow up and be a liberal just like you. When does the "free stuff van" come to my house? is there a route schedule? I want an equal opportunity to take someone elses tax money.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #16.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                                                Elvis, just open the collapsed comments to see what I said. Also please stop using racist language its not called for anywhere (even in the race baiting, racism creating world of liberals & NBC).

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #16.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                                                Perhaps things like your post in 16.4 are why you get collapsed? You think it is OK for you to call everybody else racist, but if anybody calls you racist you throw a tantrum? Seriously?

                                                Oh, and I know facts are difficult to deal with, but plenty of comments from people NOT on the right have been collapsed as well, including a TON of rather innocuous posts.

                                                  #16.5 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:15 PM EDT
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                                                  did yall see last weeks event with R/R ..they put Romney's grand children sons next to him watching TV...look on there face was like what the FUUUUUUUUUUU......

                                                  • 12 votes
                                                  Reply#17 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:30 PM EDT
                                                  Comment author avatarNice-2149067Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                  mmmmmmmmmm Debbie Blabbermouth-Shultz sexy.....

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  Reply#18 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                                                  why yes

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #18.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                                                  Nice im not a homo..you thought i said you were?????

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #18.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                                                  Elvis??? wow. you just used the word "homo"? thats the most intollerant thing I have ever heard in my life. Is this what the liberals are? racist homophobes? wow!

                                                  I don't know if the screeners are watching but you Elvis, are a bad person.

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                                                  #18.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                                                  wow no????

                                                    #18.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:41 PM EDT
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                                                    Comment author avatarelvis payneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                    go see the left behind series..its about a army of Negros..that take over America..Obama America 2016...the director was the one who made the year 2000 the year the world would end and and Pat Robertson would get rich off people who are dumb azzezzzof the Y2K .2000 ERA ........like the tea party..oh sorry the same people different name..do yall still have food left over from 2000..don't worry you can save it and it it in 2016..when the negro finish destroying America..sounds good

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    Reply#19 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:40 PM EDT
                                                    Comment author avatarNice-2149067Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                    The DNC was pitiful.

                                                    Essentially, "ask not what you can do for your country, but what you can get from other peoples taxes"

                                                    Eddie Kennedy's Big Brother would be a Republican in this day & age.

                                                    Pitiful attempt to purchase votes with government freebies.

                                                      Reply#20 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                                                      sorry say by by to your 12 years of rich tax breaks..then i will start calling you an American.again

                                                      • 4 votes
                                                      #20.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                                                      I don't want anyone to pay any taxes. why do you want to steal peoples money so badly?

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #20.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                                                      When Romney shows 10 or more years of tax returns we can talk about other people's taxes and how they are spent or not spent until then there is nothing but rhetoric and pure elephant poo regarding freebees and spending the meager taxes poor little you pays.

                                                        #20.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:15 PM EDT
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                                                        go see the left behind series..its about a army of Negros..that take over America..Obama America 2016...the director was the one who made the year 2000 the year the world would end and and Pat Robertson would get rich off people who are dumb azzezzzof the Y2K .2000 ERA ........like the tea party..oh sorry the same people different name..do yall still have food left over from 2000..don't worry you can save it and it it in 2016..when the negro finish destroying America..sounds good

                                                        • 7 votes
                                                        Reply#21 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                                                        Was Kirk Cameron in those? I think I've seen bits and pieces.

                                                          #21.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                                                          elvis needs to put the pipe down.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #21.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:48 PM EDT
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                                                          Comment author avatarNice-2149067Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                          Elvis ... do all the keys on your keyboard work? are you holding it upsidedown? Were you taught that every incomplete sentence should end with a series of question marks?????????????

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          Reply#22 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:47 PM EDT
                                                          Comment author avatarbh-455602Restored

                                                          Biden..............Kill me please. LMAO too much to type anything else.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          Reply#23 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                                          Dont sweat Biden - we learned our lesson with REgan - there is a point where a candidate is too old.

                                                            #23.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                                                            And Ron Paul. Way too old.

                                                              #23.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                                                              Ron Paul is too old. Newt Gingrich is too slimy for the rebublican party. Santorum was okay but had a hot temper. VOTE ROMNEY!

                                                              Oh, yeah, there's still Obama, but he shouldn't even be considered.

                                                                #23.3 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:46 PM EDT
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                                                                Comment author avatarJoe66Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                                I hope Romney gets elected the next eight years....Romney--Ryan--2012....Romney --Ryan ---2016 as bad as the economy is now lets go ..Romney--Ryan --2020

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                Reply#24 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:52 PM EDT
                                                                Comment author avatarBob-2711464Restored

                                                                In regards to Michelle's speech, what a load of crap! She told stories of how Barack and her went through such hard times. Well Ms. Obama you went to Whitney Young, the public magnet school for Chicago’s upper class, while Barack attended Punahou, the private prep school for the top stratum of Hawaiian society. Also you both went to Ivy-League schools. Then you bought a $277,500 two-bedroom condo in 1993--a high price even by today’s standards. Several years later, they moved into their $1.65 million mansion in Hyde Park--with the help of fraudster Tony Rezko. That's strange, you try to tell people you're connected to the middle class, when almost your whole life you've been upper class.

                                                                • 6 votes
                                                                Reply#25 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                                                                Bob - idiot - they worked hard for what they have. They didn't "inherit" any of it. And, they have a mortgage on their home - like most Americans. Get a clue - you don't have a clue!

                                                                Obama/Biden 2012

                                                                • 4 votes
                                                                #25.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                                                                Well when you tell people you had to drive around in rusted cars and go dumpster diving for furniture, you should at least add that you are extremely privileged going to such nice high schools and going to Ivy-League schools.

                                                                Then Seeking, you try and tell me that Romney hasn't worked hard? Ok, he might have gotten money from his father, but still running a company like Bain Capitol is hard and you're crazy if you believe he isn't just as hard of a worker as Obama.

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                #25.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                                                                This is correct, Mitt did donate all his inheritance to charity. Plus, Mitt has given a lot more taxes than anyone here most likely. PLUS, he continues to donate I think it's about 13% to charity each year? When he releases his tax forms people will see that - but he's got to donate at least 10% to have been a mormon preacher.

                                                                People should read Young Fu of the Upper Yangtze. It was written in 1932, but the voices of the redistributionists today sound exactly like the communist agitators in that book.

                                                                So if you want to be a commy, vote for Obama! If you want to be free, vote for Romney!

                                                                  #25.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:45 PM EDT
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                                                                  Comment author avatarMatt-1145746Restored

                                                                  Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick tells the Democratic convention crowd it's time for Democrats to not let President Barack Obama to be "bullied out of office

                                                                  Since when was losing an election in which millions of people vote considered "bullying"? This is just another example of Democrats not just vilifying the opposing candidates (which is fine and fair), but indirectly attacking approximately 50% of the entire country. This rhetoric is exactly why Democrat leadership is failing.

                                                                  • 5 votes
                                                                  Reply#26 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                                                                  Matt, I don't think it's correct to call anything in todays Democratic party "leadership."

                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                  #26.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                                                                  I wish Hilary had run again this year. She might have been able to pull of the DNC win. Then we'd at least have two decent options for president. I sure hope the fools who believe all Obama's lies will wake up and smell the collapse of the values and economy of this country.

                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                  #26.2 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:40 PM EDT
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