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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – The choice of location for any political convention speaks volumes about election-year strategy, and the goal for Democrats in choosing North Carolina was, put simply, to stay on offense – expanding President Barack Obama’s path to a second term and building a permanent foothold in a southern state.
The battleground for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House in November encompasses a number of states but, for Obama, winning here in November might mean putting the presidency out of reach for Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., joins NBC's Andrea Mitchell to discuss the Democrats' reelection strategy.
“If Romney doesn't win North Carolina, he's not going to be the president,” said Dallas Woodhouse, the state director for Americans for Prosperity, the economically conservative group associated with billionaire brothers, David and Charles Koch.
The president won the Tar Heel State in 2008, making him the first Democratic presidential candidate to carry North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976. But Obama only won by 14,000 votes – a relatively thin margin out of 2.2 million total ballots cast – stressing the extent to which North Carolina still seems like more natural turf for Republicans in a presidential election.
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The 2008 election saw unprecedented voter turnout among African-Americans and students in the state’s “Research Triangle,” a geographic cluster in the northern part of North Carolina, anchored by several major universities. Part of the question in 2012 is whether Obama can recapture the enthusiasm of four years ago.
“We know that it’s going to be close, and it was last time,” said an Obama campaign official in North Carolina, who asked to speak on background in order to offer a better assessment of the race.
The most recent polling showed the race here close, with Romney holding a four-point lead in the latest Elon University/Charlotte Observer poll published Monday.
Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., talks about how the African American vote can play out in the 2012 election and how recent the economic outlook and Friday's job outlook may affect voter decisions.
As with Romney last week in Tampa, where Republicans had hoped their convention would have a pronounced and positive effect on voters in Florida, Democrats are looking to leave Charlotte in better shape for the fall.
Making matters more difficult for Obama are troubles within the state's Democratic Party. Allegations of sexual harassment against a state party official, a struggling economy, and Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue’s somewhat surprising decision against seeking a second term are among the factors that worsen matters for Democrats here. But Perdue was also far from popular, and her decision against seeking a second term arguably cleaned the slate for state Democrats.
“Voters are voting on the president and his record and Mitt Romney and his lack of a record,” the Obama official argued. “So the state party has had no impact on our organization.”
This state is nonetheless battleground turf. North Carolina is among the nine “toss up” states on the NBC News battleground map. The state ranks fourth in total ad spending, according to NBC’s ad-tracking sources, underscoring how competitive the battle for this state’s 15 electoral votes has become.
The Obama campaign and its supporters have spent $22 million in North Carolina so far this cycle, versus $34 million by the Romney campaign and outside groups and super PACs who back the Republican presidential candidate.
That number is only likely to grow thanks to additional advertising dollars being sent into the state to turn voters out to the polls, not just on Election Day, but during early voting periods, as well.
The turnout operation is especially important given the need for Obama to replicate the voter numbers that helped put him over the top in 2008.
Chuck takes a look at the gender gap in the 2012, and points out how women can play a very important role in the 2012 election.
“He had a level of excitement that was unprecedented, and I don't see it this time,” said Woodhouse. “When you only win by 14,000 votes, it only takes a small loss of enthusiasm for things to go the other way.”
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Putting the Democratic National Convention here in Charlotte is, in no small part, an effort to recapture and harness those passions from 2008, especially in North Carolina. George W. Bush actually won Mecklenburg County – home to Charlotte – in 2000, and Republicans won the Raleigh area from 1996 through 2004. Obama won those areas decisively in 2008, and he drove up his numbers with good turnout in Fayetteville and surrounding areas to the south.
The Obama campaign boasts of having an organizational advantage associated with keeping an "Organizing for America" office open in North Carolina for the span of the president’s first term, and they claim to have gotten a good response to a volunteering initiative that distributed tickets to the president’s speech on the final night of the convention.
And convention organizers are hopeful that they can use this week’s festivities – including Monday’s “Carolinafest,” an event open to the public featuring entertainers like James Taylor, and Thursday’s stadium acceptance speech by Obama – to both recruit volunteers and win over voters.
Mladen Antonov / AFP - Getty Images
Paintings of President Barack Obama are for sale at a street fair in Charlotte, North Carolina, September 3, 2012.
One convention planner argued that history shows a mixed record for candidates and the site of their conventions; the Obama team believes how they use their convention is just as important as where they place it.
"Where you plop down your convention really doesn't matter, unless you use it wisely,” said the convention planner.
Winning North Carolina – or even staying competitive here – would bode well for the president’s bid for a second term. Obama doesn’t need to win the state, and has plenty of other paths to victory without it. Romney’s math, his ability to secure the 270 necessary electoral votes to win the White House, would be far more difficult without North Carolina. The mere fact that North Carolina is even in the list of competitive states demonstrates the advantages Obama has and the hurdles Romney faces.
Moreover, if Obama is even threatening victory here by Election Day, it will have meant that Romney was forced to spend resources on winning a state President George W. Bush won easily in 2004 despite then-North Carolina Sen. John Edwards being on the Democratic ticket.
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I wish it wasn't a race in just a few battleground states. It seems like it negates the impact of the individual vote. My sister and I will both vote democratic, but my vote in New York and hers in Texas won't sway a thing...for exactly opposite reasons.
All of sudden every state is a battleground state. But the truth is that if Romney refuses to release his tax return, then I guess, how people can relate to Mitt the Vulture in this bad economy.
Well, Queen Ann mentioned in her praise of Mitt during the Convention that both of them did so many of their own things together - such as doing their own grocery shopping...and...
bagging their own gold...without any assistance from their maids
I didn't realize the Romneys were so self-reliant, so different from other rich folks.
When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, ending segregation, the President said, we have lost the south. It's amazing that LBJ has been correct - the South has become Republican. Every since LBJ, the only Democrats to occupy the White House were two southerners (Carter and Clinton) until Obama.
But things are changing, the Democrats can take over the south...with changing demographics, for example. More Latinos are in the South and they can vote Democratic in overwhelming numbers; and remember a large number African Americans are also in the South and can vote Democratic for a long time because it is the Democrats that put the first African American in the White House.
If LBJ tried to escalate Vietnam war for his own benefit, he failed, and did not even run for re-election in 1968. And we got stuck on tricky dick - I am not talking about Cheney who also started his political career during Nixon.
LBJ also saves grandma and grandpa with Medicare, which GOP is still mad with.
Thank you, LBJ
Trashy rednecks? You might have a point, Clinton from Arkansas and Carter from Georgia.
Hey, dmallett, did 'Trashy rednecks' talk about 'Clinton from Arkansas and Carter from Georgia' in his post above? Did you consult the fatchick...I mean...factcheck?
Rednecks is in reference to people from the South isn't it? Well, both are from the South and even Carter suggested putting his support behind Romney and we know that even Billy boy hates Obama and really wishes to see him defeated. :o) Remember, Obama pulled the "race card" on him, per his own words.
The Bush tax cuts for the "wealthy" cost 700B over 10 years. The Obama tax cuts for the Middle Class cost $3T over 10 years. They have been in place for 12 years now (Bush and Obama Administrations). Why do you think Obama strategy of growing the middle class out will work any better than trickle down?
Personally I just can't stand the Hypocrites on the Left who would have been Screaming Bloody Murder if Bush had pulled one quarter of the CRIMES that POMPUS Obama has gotten away with.
Bailout of Wall Street, Exonerating Goldman Sachs, Secret Support of Al-Qaeda in Syria & Libya, Indefinite Detention & Assassination of American Citizens, New Not Wars in Syria, Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Columbia, Mexico and now Guatemala and soon to be in Iran & America. Military Drones Spying on Americans, bin NOBODY, TSA roaming Our Highways, Bus Stations, Malls and Convention Centers, DHS buying Billions of Rounds of Jacketed Hollow Point Bullets, Foriegn Paramilitary Special Forces Training with American Military in America Against American Protesters etc etc etc......The list goes on & on!
Seriously folks at what Point Do These Left Wing Nuts Realize they have brought a Corporate Controlled Devil into the White House and Refuse To Continue To Support a Lying Wall Street Bankster Gangster like POMPUS Obama?
When is Enough Enough? Or are they all "Color Blind" and just can't see RED like the rest of US?
I can not and will not make ANY exceptions to these Same Party Different Wing Politicians for they have proven over and over they all work for WALL STREET and NOT FOR OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE!
America..... Make a REAL Choice For Once....Refuse To Re-Elect ANYONE....One Term & Out They Go Until Once Again ALL Incumbents Have PROVEN They Work For We The People!
NO EXCEPTIONS........
Gary Johnson 2012! Libertarian! Live Free!
Screw these Marxist Liberals and Neo Conservatives.
Democrats Plan for the Economy:
TAX Policy: Increase taxes on the Rich( aka small businesses)
Because the president wants to increase spending even faster than he wants to increase taxes. President Obama's proposed tax hike would raise roughly $65 billion in 2013. At the same time, the president proposes to increase spending next year by $202 billion. The tax hike would pay for only 32 percent of the proposed new spending. Or put it another way: Over ten years, the new taxes would cover roughly half of the $1.6 trillion in new subsidies and Medicaid spending under Obamacare.
Wage Policy: Increase minimum wage. Why? To make them look better. Unemployment is already high and what the Obama administration doesn't understand is that any wage increases would already put small businesses out of business.
Anyone who has studied economics knows this to be a fact. Minimum wage increases contribute to joblessness. If people are paying more for minimum wage, they will be expecting more education in return.
It will hurt the poor, whose job skills may not be up to par with someone who has a degree and can't find a job. If you were the employer, which would you choose?
Couple that with increased taxes on the "wealthy" and you will hurt small businesses. Rich people will always be rich no matter what. It is those who own the small businesses who will suffer.
Here's the proof that Democrats are better for EVERYBODY and the Republicans are better for the rich:
Income Growth Rates 1948-2005
Anyone who wants to hand big business this election is a fool.
What you're doing by cutting tax rates for the wealthy and corporations is putting the burden of building America's roads, sanitation systems, schools, public buildings and parks on the poor and middle class.
What the GOP says is that the working class has to hire all the teachers, firefighters, police, food inspectors, park staff, transit workers, etc. etc. etc.
The working class is already carrying 36% of the burden just through their payroll taxes, while millionaires and investment leeches like Mr. Romney pay NOTHING.
60% of American corporations pay no taxes, and they only contribute a total of 8% to federal revenues now. 8%!!
Pay up, leeches.
I like how the Dems and Liberals collapse every post they don't agree with.
At least this forum actually lets conservatives post, unlike New York Times forums: where they 'monitor' out every conservative post, so it looks like only liberals and their crazy ideologies exist.
Well, post and chat it up together in bliss! Pretend conservatives don't exist. But you can't take away their presence this November.
Oh, you mean this job report given by NBC news and not FOX!
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/17/13339975-jobless-rate-rose-in-44-states-last-month?lite
Jobless rate rose in 44 states in July
So I guess this is what the economy looks like under a Democratic President, Huh?
If the GOP is really so proud of the policies of George W. Bush that they want to inflict them on America a second time,
WHY are they hiding Bush?
You know, the mastermind, the Decider, Mr. Mission Accomplished?
Haven't seen hide nor hair of him or Dick all this time.
Unhappy:
This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:
Job loss: Worst in 34 years
Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.
Here was last month's number from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July.
There's your choice.
The only way the GOP can win is LIE!
For the young, the independents and the Democrats in North Carolina who put Obama over the top:
Even though you may be disappointed in Obama, please consider the alternative.
And please do not vote for a third party candidate, because that will hand the electoral votes to Romney/Ryan.
Give Obama another 4 years and a cooperative Congress, and keep up the pressure, letting him know what you want. Then we'll see.
If still dissatisfied, you can go for Jeb Bush in 2016....
And God help us all...
Real Americans First: So what you are saying is that Bush deserved to leave office, just like Obama?
Bush inherited some of that debt from Clinton in the same way that Obama inherited that debt from Bush.
The debt is now 20 Trillion. How much of that can you say comes from Bush? Obama debt has grown to 40%. Our country's rating has gone down. And the more he stays in office, the worse off we will be.
This is not a lie. As for you nonfarm payroll report, we all know they report something and then the following week, they realize it wasn't as high as expected. Here let me show you.
You said:
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July.
When in fact the article said this:
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/03/economy-adds-163000-jobs-in-july-unemployment-rate-rises-to-83-percent/#ixzz25RFAxxU4
EVERYONE KNOWS DEMOCRATS LIKE TO STRETCH THE TRUTH. THEY JUST DON'T REALIZE THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY CALL THEM ON IT.
Obama's social agenda do not find much ground in NC, gay marriage was his last debacle. Obama succeed using the race card to get the back votes from NC the only solid group that will vote for him, the capital of NASCAR will favor Romney this time. It was a mistake for Democrats thinking that the convention will get the votes to swing NC to his side. Obama success to divide the country will have a reverse, because more people believe that Obama is to blame also for not to cross party line and work with Republicans.
Unhappy,
You can't just make stuff up (the debt is approaching $16T, not $20T; Clinton had a projected surplus that Bush inherited). Well, I guess you can just make stuff up, but it makes everything you say unbelievable.
"Democrats stretch the truth" all in bold caps...., now that's funny coming from someone who just said the debt is $20T and Bush inherited a deficit.
Unhappy - If you can't figure out that 163,000 jobs ADDED is a hell of a lot better than 598,000 jobs LOST, no one here can help you.
Trickle-down economics has never worked.
If it did, we should have been swimming in jobs 10 years after Bush cut taxes.
We're not going back - we're going forward. With or without you.
Obama/Biden 2012
redvirginia -
Since the racial makeup of North Carolina is 70% White American, 21.3% African American, 1.2% American Indian, and 6.5% Hispanic or Latino (of any race), you're going to have to come up with a better theory than "the race card" for why Obama won the state in 2008.
Like the fact that a whole lot of white Americans believe that Bush and the GOP's policies are idiotic.
Real
Obama won with the white vote, who sough an opportunity ,to redeem their guilty sentiment voting for a black President. Obama was elected , no more guilt anymore, we already elect the first African American President, but from there to reelect him, is way too far.Obama did not deliver his promises and he spend 4 years blaming Bush, the Republicans, the European crisis, the tsunami in Japan and anything he got on hands to bring excuses to his failure. We don't need him 4 more years doing the same , looking for different result is just insane. We need to change the course a new leader that a understand that in order to make the economy work we need two key elements, capital and labor , Obama is in war with the capital that lead to a failure.
Who keeps their promises? And who just obstructs and then blames the other side?
From PolitiFact.com:
A scorecard on President Obama's campaign promises
Four years ago, Barack Obama made an extraordinary array of campaign promises -- 508 pledges on everything from taxing the rich to ending the Iraq war.
He vowed to get health coverage for the uninsured and to safeguard the environment by capping carbon emissions. He pledged to push for comprehensive immigration reform and help homeowners after the housing market crashed.
Above all, he would change the tenor of the debate in Washington.
"We have a chance to bring the country together in a new majority — to finally tackle problems that Washington has ignored for too long. And that is why the same old Washington textbook campaigns just won't do in this election," he said in Blueprint for Change, a campaign document that became his presidential to-do list.
PolitiFact has been tracking all 508 promises and keeping tally on the Obameter throughout his presidency.
Our scorecard shows Obama kept 37 percent of his promises. He brought the war in Iraq to a close and finally achieved the Democratic dream of a universal health care program. When the United States had Osama bin Laden in its sights, Obama issued the order to kill.
Sixteen percent are rated Broken, often because they hit a brick wall in Congress. Global warming legislation passed the House but died in the Senate. He didn't even push for comprehensive immigration reform. His program to help homeowners facing foreclosure didn't even meet its own benchmarks. (PolitiFact rates campaign promises based on outcomes, not intentions.)
With four months left in Obama's term, PolitiFact has rated Obama's remaining promises Compromise (14 percent), Stalled (10 percent) or In the Works (22 percent).
One stands out as not only his biggest broken promise, but as an explanation for many others that have fizzled or failed: his pledge to bring people together for a bipartisan agenda.
"That, it seems to me, is the most important promise that the president has not been able to keep," said William Galston, a former Clinton administration aide who now is a fellow at the Brookings Institution and studies political polarization. "It will long be debated by historians whether he tried and failed, or didn't really try at all."
This is an accounting of the promises Obama kept and failed to keep, and how bipartisanship eluded him at nearly every turn.
A scorecard on President Obama's campaign promises
PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.
We rate their status as Not Yet Rated, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken.
The report card provides an up-to-the-minute tally of all the promises.
The Obameter Scorecard
GOP Pledge-O-Meter: Tracking the promises of the GOP Leadership in Congress
PolitiFact has compiled promises that Republican congressional leaders made during the 2010 campaign and is tracking their progress on our GOP Pledge-O-Meter.
We rate their status as Not Yet Rated, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken. (See our About the Pledge-O-Meter page for definitions of the ratings.)
The report card provides an up-to-the-minute tally of all the promises.
GOP Pledge-O-Meter Scorecard
There's your choice, folks.
Who lies? Who tells the truth? You decide.
Not to mention, RealAmericans, the fact that 10% of Romney's statements are rated as "Pants of Fire," which puts them in the most heinous, blatant, flagrant, malicious, distorted, vicious, and damaging category of all lies. Obama's percentage of pants-of-fire statements? 2%. That's five times less than Romney.
Obama lies. Obama is running a campaign full of lies trying to stay away from his records, because his economic plan is a failure. We had the worst economy after the great depression , but the worst recovery in history. 14 % in real unemployment numbers, almost 6 trillions of dollars more in debt, negative economic growth 1.5 % compare with population growth, it means we have a lower average income. Record number of welfare recipients, record number living below poverty, No confidence. There is no energy policy other than give money away to crony capitalist and Chinese industries to produce batteries for electric cars, Obama is against oil industry, coal industry, nuclear industry but favor the GE wind turbines made in China. Foreign policy is a disaster, helping radicals to take down tyrants , taking down an evil to replace for a worst evil, and throwing under the bus our best ally Israel, demanding to go beck to their 1972 borders. Divide and conquer is the way Obama can win this election, we are more divided than ever in history . Obama call Republican his enemies, attack Congress all the time because they don't do things on his way, attack Supreme court all the time for the same reason, use the DOJ to pick and choose what laws to support, he prefer an absolutist kind of government rule by Executive powers because he do not believe in Democracy.
Sorry RedVirgin......nice try!
NO IS NOT A SOLUTION!!!! Get out and VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!!
4 more for 44!!!!!
Perhaps the Democrats would like to keep their jobs in November since they see the writing on the walls after the Republican landslide during the last congressional Election. It was really a shame too because a lot of good people became victims of the lies and flip flop politics in the white house. People are actually fearful with the wisywashy nature of Barry'O. His hypocrisy seems to not know any bounds. He says he supports Same sex marriage, while he visits and make deals with Muslims who are the most dangerous creatures on earth, unless you like to go swimming off the coast of Australia with a fresh cut porterhouse steak tied to your neck. However, you will not need to travel to Australia to swim with the sharks, they are in Dearborn MI and will be seen at the Democratic convention if the liberal media decides to tell the truth.
The Irony and misdirection of his nature is confounding to all even as the liberal media tap dances to entertain the mass public. I remember right after he was elected the people saying that they would now qualify for welfare that the Republicans denied them. Their interviews were on national TV, but I was a social worker and heard the protestations in person.
If any of you self important geniuses would like to learn the true nature of the welfare system, then become a social worker and see our society as it really is, deep in the dirt. The fact that welfare families are three and four generations dependent on this subsidized income and the associated drugs, prostitution, and so on go along with the sacrifice of the children and their children's children and so on. The rhetoric and high ideal morals the liberals are so good at portraying, smoothly covered the blood of unborn children killed because the irresponsible mothers can't or will not abstain from unprotected sex.
So they get pregnant by the bushels and you propose to either use taxpayers money to kill the children, or subsidized the welfare of the fatherless families. I guess if you look at the bright side, you could say they had fathers for a matter of minutes or even months. The cases I worked, by a great majority, the mothers could not say who the fathers were or even how many potential fathers were involved with her.
The fearful Liberals and Anarchist attack the Morals of Republicans when the Republicans are only asking for a form of integrity. But when you figure that most people cannot even recite the definition for the word, much less spell it. Even our cherished rights as a citizen are under attack at every turn. The vote is intended for one citizen and one vote. what is so difficult to understand about that? Criminals like illegal aliens, people with felonies, and dead people need not apply for the right to vote. I read where in california, the illegal aliens can now get a legal driver's license. Is this just a coincidence or is this another attack on the legal citizens of America? We seem to see Eric and his boss Barry'O working every day at ways to undermine our society.
One thing we can always rely on though is that the people who have no valid argument's will always be able to reach for a Survey of convoluted data to cloud the real issues between What is right or What is wrong.
Lazarus
Better headline:
"The Democratic National Convention finds itself smack dab in the middle of a HORNETS NEST"
BTW: Washington State has been "giving" out driver's licenses to Illegal Aliens (Immigrants). Last check, there were 800,000 more driver licenses issued than there are legal drivers in the State. Guess what....yeah....you got it.....to vote in the State you can show your driver's license.
RealAmericansFirst.....
Too lazy to type your comment instead of cutting and pasting the same information all the time ?
Typical Progressive.
Cranky Old Bigot....time for a name change....Cranky Old Racist.
Here's a great JOKE by AnaBanana-1782128
Special Guest Speaker at the DNC Convention: Betty White comes out on the floor to applause and someone brings a chair out to her.
She looks at it, and looks at the crowd, and looks at the chair again, and walks over to it and sits down.
Betty:
She asks the crowd while still sitting.
You have to ask your self or you better off now paying 3.79 or 4 years ago.
Oh oh....looks like the middle and lower classes thinks BO is LYING to them....
Among voters earning $40,000 to $60,000 a year, 67 percent said they were not satisfied with the president's handling of the economy and 62 percent said the country is in worse condition now than in 2008.
Similarly, 58 percent of people earning between $20,000 and $40,000 a year said the country is worse off now, and 66 percent are unhappy with his handling of the economy.
Nope to Dope & Chains 2012
GOD=7_4, 7/4=July 4th. G is the 7th letter, O is 15 or zerO, and D is 4. Our Founding Fathers used this Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74) with the key(74) of 'A-B-C becomes 1-2-3'(74). Mitt Romney used this Masonic(7,74) Code(4 letters) when he chose an iPod app at 7:04 pm to announce his VP and then announced Paul Ryan at 7:04 am.
The Democrats used the GOD=704 Code when they chose Charlotte for their Convention with its 704 area code.
Sorry RealAmericansFirst - Just because an organization has the word "fact" in their name doesn't mean that they deal in facts.
Truth of the matter is, Politifact has been exposed as haveing a significant left wing bias and a lot of their "facts" have been shown to be huge distortions or downright lies....better find another source...
"for Obama, winning here (N.C.) in November might mean putting the presidency out of reach for Republican challenger Mitt Romney."
And Romney winning in Pennsylvania might mean putting the presidency out of reach for Obama, but that is far more likely to happen than Obama winning North Carolina.
Romney is now ahead among Likely Voters in enough states to win more than the 270 Electoral Votes needed to win at this time - without PA or Ohio.
Brad Watson...
Wow you really are insane aren't you?
Seen Bigfoot lately, I hear he is hanging out with Elvis in Area 51 after having lunch on the Grassy Knoll
350 X 2 +2 + 704
Ohhhh...shudder
Ursula-279622 "I wish it wasn't a race in just a few battleground states."
Look on the bright side - You're being spared the super-saturation of TV ads by both sides.
During the Democratic Convention of 2008, Barack Obama, in his acceptance speech, said:
"If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE IS NOW DOING!!
In an interview a few months later he said:
"If I don’t have this (the economy) done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
IF THE MAN HAD ANY INTEGRITY AND DECENCY, HE WOULD HAVE ALREADY ABDICATED HIS OFFICE!!
What are democrats going to talk about at the convention? Are they going to attack and go negative everyday of the convention? Sooner or later you have to talk about what you have done and with Obamacare being disliked by the majority of Americans and the economy still in bad shape what are these speeches going to be about?
Another Deadbeat Texan "Unemployment was 3.8% before the Bush Tax-Cuts."
Actually, it was 6.3% just before the tax cuts were fully implemented because of 911. Bush got them down to 4.4% just 3 years after the tax cuts took effect. But then the Democrats took control of Congress and the legislative agenda - and the economy tanked almost immediately - the recession started just 11 months later.
If you check the record, you will find the following after the Bush Tax Cuts went into effect;
- The economy grew by 25.43% in 4 years (6.36% per year).
- Federal Revenues increased by 44.08% in 4 years - 10.02% per year - despite the lower RATES.
- 7,599,000 net new jobs were added in 4 years (1,899,750 jobs per year).
Some time ago there was a billboard of a smiling Bush saying "Miss me yet?" - for the majority of Americans, I suspect the answer is YES.
So we should believe you about "real unemployment numbers" because the Bureau of Labor Statistics, well they are just a bunch of liars, huh.
Bush left us with 14 trillion of debt - 10 trillion on the books, and 4 trillion for the wars and the unfunded mandate - 4 trillion that weren't on the books till after Obama got into office. Current debt stands at 16 trillion. So where does Obama's EXTRA 6 trillion come from?
The race is currently in a statistical dead heat, and blacks make up about 15-20% of the population. That means that, counting for the 5% that are Latinos and other minorties, about 30% of the remaining white population is voting for Obama. This is your idea of "most."
If you weren't so intent on being insulting, you might consider pausing a few seconds and paying attention to what you are saying.
So ironic how you were wishing for the hurricane to come ashore Pig, ..... remember how much you were laughing...?
I guess at the time you felt the" collateral damage" (non Republican/Conservative/Christian...) of any deaths and destruction in the Tampa area was going to be worth the "benefit" of having the convention cancelled.
Didn't quite work out like you were hoping for did it.
That alone makes anything you say completely worthless, why so much hate is hard to imagine, but you certainly are not capable of dealing with life. Your experience has twisted you brain.
It's o.k. Pig you can let go of the hate, alot of people have difficult things in their childhood it doesn't mean you have to carry that scar like a badge vomiting our malevolent emotions everywhere you go.
Just thinking what you live with inside your own skin, why would anyone need to insult you.
Wishing for death and destruction Mr party of ..... "TOLERANCE.....?" Really....?
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News today...obama is "struggling" with the question of ARE U BETTER OFF NOW OR 4 YR. AGO!!
That is a yes or no question!! How do you struggle with a yes or no question??
Clint Eastwood summed it all up in 10 minutes!! No One can afford another 4 years of this Craziness!!
BozoHussan==NBC=GE= Chicago MOBpolitics=lie,cheat, steal ,twist every crises to benefit your Pravda Press PROPAGANDA!!
RCP (Average of
polls) as of 8/30/2012 After Conventions
MO moves back
to Lean Romney
10 Tossup
States: Tied in two (VA=13, IA= 6), Obama leads in 7,
Romney leads in 1.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(30)+Lean(49) = 221 +Tossup(92) = 313*
Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(58)+Lean(57) = 191 +Tossup(15) = 206
Total Delegates: [313+206+19 = 538] Win = 270*
Let's try this again and see if will post properly
RCP (Average of polls) as of 8/30/2012 After the RNC Convention
MO moves back to Lean Romney
10 Tossup States: Tied in two (VA=13, IA= 6), Obama leads in 7, Romney leads in 1.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(30)+Lean(49) = 221 +Tossup(92) = 313*
Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(58)+Lean(57) = 191 +Tossup(15) = 206
Total Delegates: [313+206+19 = 538] Win = 270*
I fully expected Willard to have at least a 3 point lead at this point, with the convention and VP pick bounce and all. The fact that he is no better than tied is pretty weak. I think an empty chair could beat Willard at this point.
i guess it depends what poll you look at......obozo is a poison pill for our nation....
Two political science professors at the University of Colorado, Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, have a model that analyses two economic factors, unemployment and changes in real per capita income. The model has correctly predicted each presidential election since 1980.
In the state by state analysis they predict Romeny will win with 320 votes. Your math must be a little light somewhere.
Two political science professors at the University of Colorado, Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, have a model that analyses two economic factors, unemployment and changes in real per capita income. The model has correctly predicted each presidential election since 1980.
In the state by state analysis they predict Romeny will win with 320 electoral votes.
Romney and Ryan for Recovery
Near,
University of Colorado, Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry hedge their prediction …
“The economy has seen some improvement since President Obama took office. What remains to be seen is whether voters will consider the economy in relative or absolute terms. If it’s the former, the president may receive credit for the economy’s trajectory and win a second term.
Factors they said may affect their prediction include the timeframe of the economic data used in the study and close tallies in certain states. The current data was taken five months in advance of the Nov. 6 election and they plan to update it with more current economic data in September. A second factor is that states very close to a 50-50 split may fall an unexpected direction.
http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says
Near, that University of Colorado study has already been debunked. It is a new methodology falsely claiming to have predicted elections since 1980. WTF?? Talk about making the outcome fit your methodology by any means possible-unabashed B.S.! They should take the time machine back and predict the winning lottery numbers! Ha!I'll stick with Nate Silver. ;-)
Obama/Biden 2012
We should all trust to Bain Capital to make sure we get our pensions, right?
Riiiiggggghhhhtttt.
All Romney and his cronies know how to do is sniff out companies with some cash in their worker benefit accounts and cash it in for themselves.
Don't you ever wonder where Mitt Romney got $21.6 million last year without ever lifting a finger?
Bain Capital stole it for him.
Go to 538 Blog to see the toss-up states if you must, but these are the numbers.
. . .
Here's a more reliable Electoral College Model for YOU to consider...
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ projects
President Obama is still consistently being projected as the winner over
270 Electoral Votes are required to win, so something disastrous would need to happen for President Obama to lose this election.
All indications are that Obama has got this election wrapped up.
Something disastrous you say....the debates are coming, just wait for it 8)
Ronald(6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6): the "1st Beast whose actions were the opposite of the Christ's, he was ruler of the world, lied to all nations, and was wounded yet lived." Born on 2/6, see Matthew 2:6 KJV. Ronnie and Nancy acted together in only one movie: Hellcats of the Navy. The address of their California ranch was 666 St. Cloud when they bought it - they immediately had it changed to 668.
George Walker Bush Jr.: "the 2nd Beast who imitated the 1st Beast and made fire come down from the heavens with the 'destruction of Babylon' (War In Iraq)". Him & Nancy Reagan were born on 7/6, see Matthew 7:6. 7:06 am = 6:66. Bush Jr. was president on 6/6/06.
United(6) States(6) Dollar(6): "the mark of the Beast that everyone must have to buy and sell with" - The Revelation Chapter 13. (The US $1 bill on its back has the #13 encoded 13x.)
Give me a break Brad, anyone can grasp at straws to manipulate numerology. Its kinda like politics in general. A bunch of made up stories to cause FUD in a specified group.
@Thatguy121#2.13: Watch it pal. Numbers manipulation is the singular offering of all "Roy Wilsons" posts here. You are directly insulting Him with your realistic description of FUD in a specified group.
FDP
So I'm all for having Betty White introduce the President Thursday. I even have a skit prepared for her:
Betty White comes out on the floor to applause and someone bring a chair out to her. She looks at it and looks at the crowd and looks at the chair again and walks over to it and sits down.
Betty: "What did you expect. Did you want me to talk a chair?... Really?" She asks the crowd while still sitting. "I'm 90 . . not crazy!"
..... And then Betty will endorse the "empty" suit president.
Bob1905084, you are self reflecting again my friend. Counseling. Betty White will endorse four more years of success. Obama/Biden 2012. Her 90 years make her way to wise to let Romney lead us into a depression like W. did.
Ana - you libs contend that the recession started in 2007. Need I remind you who had 2/3 control of the government from 2007 to 2010? Nope. You libs seem to have selective meories.
.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!
Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!
…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!
..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE
…ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>
Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…
NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!
Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!
BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for crony ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!
Actually, if Obama is re-elected, Betty will unfortunately spend the later years of her life as she did her early years ... in a depression due to a progressive ideologue.
The facts are, the recession was caused by big government social engineering in the housing market ... began in December 2007, peaked in September 2008 and was officially over by July 2009. The last 3 years have been a non-recovery that rivals a depression in terms of "real" unemployment.
The middle class has lost 38% of its wealth UNDER OBAMA.
The median household income has dropped $4,000 a year every year UNDER OBAMA - MORE LOST IN OBAMA'S RECOVERY THAN IN THE ACTUAL RECESSION.
Why do you ignore the facts and defend the indefensible?
Talk to the hand -
Actually it is worse than that....
Dems have had the Senate 6 out of the last 6 years...
Dems have had the House 4 out of the last 6 years ...
Dems have had the presidency for the last 3 1/2 years ....
... but it is all Bush"s and those secret 15 pesky repubs' fault.
Bob and Border Joe,
blah blah blah blah blah!
And gallup proves Romney did nothing for his image last week. I love the waste of Adelson, Koch and Republican money as a whole on your empty suit.
Gallup?
Would that be the same Gallup that states Obama is THE MOST POLARIZING AND DIVISIVE PRESIDENT IN GALLUP HISTORY?
Two political science professors at the University of Colorado, Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, have a model that analyses two economic factors, unemployment and changes in real per capita income. The model has correctly predicted each presidential election since 1980.
In the state by state analysis they predict Romeny will win with 320 electoral votes.
Romney and Ryan for Recovery
Trashy -
Pretty clueless post.
Deficits don't matter?
Cheney was assuming sane people and policies, not an asinine clueless community organizer's understanding of economics.
Most people have debt in the form of a mortgage or car payments. No problem as long as they can handle it. The problem is when a family has asinine spending on a big house they can't afford, expensive cars they can't afford ... a yacht payment ... vacations around the world ...
Too bad people just can't print money like Obama, huh?
I know .... I know ... way offer your head right?
Bush's economics / tax policy ....
Revenue in 2001 was $1.991 trillion.
Revenue in 2002 was $1.853 trillion.
Revenue in 2003 was $1.782 trillion.
Tax cuts
Revenue in 2005 was $2.153 trillion – UP 17%
Revenue in 2006 was $2.406 trillion – UP 26%
Revenue in 2007 was $2.568 trillion – UP 31%
Revenue in 2008 was $2.524 trillion – UP 29%
Bush had revenue in 2007 of $2.568 trillion with spending of $2.728 trillion for a deficit of $160.7 billion.
Obama had revenue in 2011 of $2.173 trillion with spending of $3.818 trillion for a deficit of $1.645 trillion – 10 TIMES Bush's deficit!
Bush inherited a nation at peace?
Yea ... Clinton peacefully ignored the 6 terrorist attacks that killed Americans during his presidency ... bin Laden became convinced America was nothing but a "paper tiger" and he had his boys fly airliners into buildings killing almost 3,000 Americans,
You forget that part, or would you have prefered Bush proving America was paper tiger little b*tch for the terrorists to play with?
Btw - The total cost of those 2 wars under Bush was $760 billion .... about half what Obama overspends a year.
"george w bush inherited a strong economy a budget surplus and a nation at peace"
george bush came into the whitehouse in the recession that started in 1999 and ended in 2002....i guess to idiots this means "strong economy"
whatever budget surplus there was went away with all the terror attacks and natural disasters we had.....but idiots blame geoge bush for that.
"a nation at peace" lol, really ? we had 60,000 troops in the persian gulf "containing" sadaam for the WMDs that clinton and the democrats said he was making.....
we had an al qaeda cell that had been in america since 1998 learning to fly jets
we had been hit in 2000 with the uss cole
and this was the "nation at peace" ?
wow, you really are redneck trash....and you could use an education.
Nearthesea,
. . . you forgot to mention everything in their calculation. They even stated that their model may not work because we had a depression like recession. They also stated their calculation will probably change in September. So stay tuned.
keck,
. . . and George W. failed to keep us safe by being asleep on the job from day one. 911 was avoidable. . . and George W. failed miserably with Afghanistan because Cheney wanted a war for Halliburton so his supply side economics would become true. Didn't care about the countless lives that were lost so his pocket book would fatten."Deficits don't matter!" if you give away money to the rich rather than the poor who need it. The only thing I am upset about with my President is not allowing the two war criminals to be prosecuted for their war crimes.
anabanana is a dope!
They even stated that their model may not work because we had a depression like recession. They also stated their calculation will probably change in September.
Did they even realize that the recession ended in July 2009 ..... was over before September?
Btw - Is there any evidence Obama has ever even had an Economics 101 class?
wack is a wack job
ended in 2009 hahahahaha
you want to charge bush with warcrimes ?
..sure right after we give bill clinton to the iraqis for his genicide trial.
and then we will charge clinton with his rendition program that he started in 1997....kidnapping, torture, false imprisonment.....crimes against humanity.
but the iraqis will get their chance for revenge on bill clinton first....clinton killed 1 million iraqis with sanctions and bombing suspected WMD sites from 1993-2000
war crimes ?....you bet.
AnaBanana - That is a damn lie that 911 was avoidable, maybe you should read the 911 Commission Report. I will admit he took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan and should not have gone into Iraq until Afghanistan had been completed. But President Bush did sign the SOFA that ended the American troops presence in Iraq, not President Obama. President Obama wanted to keep 3 to 5 thousand American military personnel in Iraq, but could not negotiate an agreement with the Iraqi Government, so Obama had no choice but to comply with the Bush SOFA which was ratified in Nov 2008.
BTW, why didn't Clinton do something about Osama Bin Laden when he had a chance after Sudan kicked him out of the country? Clinton allowed OBL to go to Afghanistan.
keck,
Wow! You are one he$$ of a conspiracy theorist. Counseling my friend.
Why did our founding fathers set up the electoral college??? Because they knew there were a lot of stupid/ignorant voters who would vote Democrat Paarty without questioning the fools like Biden .
Damn I am tired of my posts being collapsed because some liberals can't stand the truth. Will post it again and see how long it stays up.
AnaBanana - That is a damn lie that 911 was avoidable, maybe you should read the 911 Commission Report. I will admit he took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan and should not have gone into Iraq until Afghanistan had been completed. But President Bush did sign the SOFA that ended the American troops presence in Iraq, not President Obama. President Obama wanted to keep 3 to 5 thousand American military personnel in Iraq, but could not negotiate an agreement with the Iraqi Government, so Obama had no choice but to comply with the Bush SOFA which was ratified in Nov 2008.
BTW, why didn't Clinton do something about Osama Bin Laden when he had a chance after Sudan kicked him out of the country? Clinton allowed OBL to go to Afghanistan.
Clinton was too busy getting blowjobs. He dropped the ball on Bin Laden and 9/11 was the result.
Are you better off today than you were 4yrs ago? HELL NO and Obozocare is only going to make it worse. If it lasts it will cost the average taxpayer plenty. Obama says that he will charge the insurance companies and corporations taxes to help pay for it. And who do you think will end up paying? WE WILL.
A good 50% of the Uninsured are the 18-35yr old singles and marrieds with no kids. Traditionally the healthiest age group. According to the ruling they will be fined (Taxed) if they don't get health insurance, but if they are fined, they will not have to pay it. So tell me, if they aren't really going to have to pay for it, do you honestly think they will? Of course not. So who will be paying for it? WE WILL.
For a long time now I've been reading posts that people think that smokers and overweight people should pay a higher premium for health insurance. Of those "Uninsurable" which will be covered under this new plan how many of them are ill because of smoking or weight? And who is going to pay for them? WE WILL.
Now I do believe that anyone who wants health insurance should be able to get it, regardless of pre-existing conditions. That part of the plan I agree with. But they should be paying for it.
Taxpayers can't afford to bring on 40Mil odd new welfare recipients.
Romney/Ryan 2012
AnaBanana, I didn't see you were here when I re-posted your Betty White joke above. It's GREAT!!! Hope you won't mind if I post it again on other blogs from time to time. Great work!
In case you're interested I have a few jokes, songs and other stuff posted on my Newsvine Column, You might enjoy this one, it seems to be the favorite of most folks.
http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/01/13611167-dr-seuss-this-romney-guy
Speaking of jokes...
Clint Eastwood at the RNC Convention...
And that's called "Eastwooding"!
(This 2012 political joke was written for you by Bruce-1628250)
BTW: To see Articles I have posted to the Newsvine, click on either of these links below,
September 2012 or August 2012
Janine,
You mean Clinton was distracted with a silly impeachment by the RepubliCONs that cost $1 billion. George Bush Sr. was close to the Saudi Royal family and the Bin Laden family.
9/4/12 is your Judgment Day: you FAIL. Sentence: 'bad luck' for the rest of your life and then a long time before you are reincarnated as human.
Keck
The Clinton recession actually started in June 2000 and ended in 2002. There have been some revisionist claiming that the recession happened at 911. Actually we 911 made the recession last longer, because numbers that appeared ready to turn around instead moved further south. True resessions are noted by 3 consecutive quarters of drop in GNP. One of the secondary occurrances is unemployment starting to increase. in the third quarter of decrease. Unemployment started increasing in January 2001, 6 months after the first decline in economic growth.
Don't wear yourselves out too much now, it takes a lot of energy to excrete that much hate.
Plus it makes you a complete hypocrite, since your party is the party of..... "tolerance.....?"
aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaaaa : P
this convention will be a hoot...what is obozo gonna say?...."look i know i effed up my first term but if you re-elect me, i promise to do better"......what a piece of shiat obozo is.....a vote for obozo is a vote for national suicide!!
We will have Video Tape evidence(not taken out of context like the GOP do), We will have Charts, Graphs, and a PLAN IN WRITING for the world to see. Can you say that for the GOP? H$ll No. All the GOP have are worn out "bumper sticker slogans, Divide and Conquer Rhetoric and a ton of OUTRIGHT LIES to defend. Good luck with that one.
tell me why should obozo be re-elected?
Look at all those faces of pig snot in this article. Obum one and done. :o)
Democrats will kick off their convention tomorrow at The Bank of America Arena with North Carolina in their cross-hairs.
should be hilarious to hear obozo ask for four more years...what the hell is he gonna say???,....."look give more four years and i promise to do better"??????????.......
You can have the Muslim.............I'm voting for an American!
Birther alert
where was obozo born?
after 4 years...wh the hell cares where he was born?......its whre he lives now that conserns me...............
Are we better off than 4 years ago? Heck No.
Should we return to the policies that got us into this mess in the first place? Oddly, half the country feels that is the intelligent thing to do. God help us
should we keep the policies that won't get us out of it? we do need help.
Then nobody has a plan whatsoever? Then whether we get OB or Mitt, we're screwed royally. It's really just a matter of who gets screwed more, upper or lower classes. That's where the philosophical line today has been drawn. Go ahead, take your pick.
I live in NC. You wanna know why Obama won here last time? He got almost all the Black vote. But this year a lot of black people are either not going to vote or vote for Romney. You can walk in a grocery store now and make a joke about Obama with black people and they will laugh. I don't think Obama will win this stae but it will be close.
someone please explain to me why blacks vote for obozo......he surely hasn't done shiat to help blacks in detroit, chicago, etc, etc........i guess they vote for him because of his skin color.......what a bunch of losers.....a vote for obozo is a vote for national suicide!!
Obama is ahead by 10 points. You want to try again?
Where? Show me. I am an inquiring mind. last count. obama and romney in a dead heat. 46.7% oh btw you didn't mention, (i know a typing mistake) that obama is losing in "going in the right direction by 62% not and 31.6% as, And job approval 49% disapprove and 47.2% aproval rate. These two factors are going for romney. all; the other polls. bogus.
Blacks vote for MR. OBAMA cause he is black to some of them. he is not really black only half black. but he is the first dark-skinned president. but now the hype is over.
Admit you're DESPERATE.
Nobody loves Barry like Barry loves Barry and yep, the thrill up Matthews leg is even gone.
The blacks in my area, especially the educated and working, are not sold on Obama. They know better.
But, welfare America and other socialists, want Obama another 4 yrs.
Give us FACTS , not FEELINGS
Awww, desperate liberals collapsing my brilliant posts. Boo hoo.
Deleting lies, misinformation and hate. Thank You Moderator
Lol, you don't even read the lies posted by the hate filled liberals.
If I see one, I will call my side out.
Sure you will. Wink wink.
You tell me how Obama has fixed the economy. he has added 6 trillion dollars to national debt. you have no idea how much money that is. He has raised unemployment. won't cut spending. TELL ME HOW he has helped at all.
Oh and I got my first comment collapsed guess that means I am a radical:) I am with u dmallet
A good start would be to get your facts straight FIRST.
That was a hate filled racist comment, watch the liberals collapse it. :o)
Every Obama bashing comment is collapsed. never seen such a liberal mod, must be Valerie Jarrett helping out MSNBC.
His other half is Communist
Barack Hussein Obama ll is not an American, but an Islamic socialist. Born from a Communist mother and socialist father. Raised in Indonesia by his step-father Lolo Soetoro, then later, sent to Hawaii to live with his Communist grandparents. There, Barry Soetoro (only 10 yrs. old) was mentored by a known Communist, Frank Marshall Davis and Barry’s grandparents, until he graduated from high school.
Barry entered Occidental College as Barry Soetoro, an exchange student from Indonesia. Two years later, he enrolled @ Columbia University where Obama networks with Marxist professors/followers, black radicals and Pakistani students.
After graduating from Harvard Law School, Obama meets Bill Ayers, known terrorist and co-founder of the Underground Weather. Obama is inspired by Ayers to run for public office and is supported by the “New Party”, an organization that was originally called the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
Barack Obama’s 20 yr. association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright had left Obama with many political scars and enhanced Obama’s desire for social order in government.
Today, Barack Obama still claims his devotion to Islam, while mocking Christianity. President Barack Obama plans to cut military spending in half, eliminating 80% of our defense weapons, including nuclear weapons and make the US dependent of energy, especially from petroleum oil. The economy is sliding back into recession, with a good chance to hit rock bottom. If this happens, the free world, as we know it, will be devastated. It will be then when the Islamic nations take over, with the help of Russia, ending democracy.
There is a dark side of Barack Obama that separates his ideals from those who live and believe in “We the People………….”. Form your own opinion, if you like, but mine rests heavily on the future of our great nation.
May God bless America.
Let me guess, you cut and pasted that from Rush's web page. BRILLIANT!!!
No, I wrote this months ago, after some research. It's all there in black and white. Look it up yourself!
It's all B.S. LOL
Guess again
everyone go see the movie its called Y2k..the end of the world..as we know it .the year 2000..oh my bad...go see the movie 2016 Obama's America..because the same dimwits don't know s-it about the future..tell them Pat Robertson sent you you will get half off the ticket at the box office???????????..oh you tea nuts you still have food left over from the year 2000..that's OK you can save it and eat it in 2016..topdrum was it in the movie????
TopDrum
Bill Ayers, wow. You do know of course that he and Breitbart dined together in Bill's house and planned to take a road trip together. Andrew Breitbart a commie, who would have guessed?
i love how the coward libs are collapsing comments here.......they can't handle reality....obozo is a liar, a distorter, and a divider....a vote for obozo is a vote for national suicide...
everyone go see the movie its called Y2k..the end of the world..as we know it .the year 2000..oh my bad...go see the movie 2016 Obama's America..because the same dimwits don't know s-it about the future..tell them Pat Robertson sent you you will get half off the ticket at the box office???????????..oh you tea nuts you still have food left over from the year 2000..that's OK you can save it and eat it in 2016
FAUX NOISE let's me post one comment and bans me. Talk about keeping their LEMMINGS in the dark.
CNN did the same.
hahahahaha
paddywhack,sounds like you have been whacking your paddy a little to much,it's affecting your brain.
everyone go see the movie its called Y2k..the end of the world..as we know it .the year 2000..oh my bad...go see the movie 2016 Obama's America..because the same dimwits don't know s-it about the future..tell them Pat Robertson sent you you will get half off the ticket at the box office???????????..oh you tea nuts you still have food left over from the year 2000..that's OK you can save it and eat it in 2016
yo elvis....tell me why obozo should be re-elected?...more empty promises???..more lies......more division???....please
..
no more tax breaks and wars
Anybody who thinks you can cut taxes on the rich and run around playing the world's policeman and starting two new wars at the same time without wrecking your country's economy is an idiot.
Of course, we always knew Bush wasn't too bright.
Guess the rest of the GOP isn't either, since they want to do the same thing all over again.
no the idiot is in the wh now
Hlfscfaoyff
Sure is a lot of truth being collapsed today.
Truth? LOL, Tissues?
obozo and his lib sheep can't even spell truth let alone accept reality.........
MR. MOD send me an email explaing why u collapse my comments. they were not offensive and they did not cuss. I think you might just be the single most biased person on MSNBC and that is saying A LOT. too controversial for u?
So much for free speech
This one was collapsed as well. Simply because they do not want to face opposition.
Two political science professors at the University of Colorado, Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, have a model that analyses two economic factors, unemployment and changes in real per capita income. The model has correctly predicted each presidential election since 1980.
In the state by state analysis they predict Romeny will win with 320 electoral votes.
Romney and Ryan for Recovery
libs don't believe in free speech....they don't believe in reality....they are saying they will vote for obozo again as he rides in on his unicorn or magic carpet....it is probably more likely that a muslim would ride in on a magic carpet....libs are cowards and intellectual liars....obozo is a born liar.....a vote for obozo is a vote for national suicide....
If you don't like it LEAVE. This is Progressive Territory.
more like retarded territory...my apologies to the mentally handicapped...
If it wasn't for NBC, all the liberal bloggers would be on welfare.
The top 16 out of 20 WELFARE States are RED. Want to try again?
not my state.................LOL
what state..top..
Barack Hussein Obama ll is not an American, but an Islamic socialist. Born from a Communist mother and socialist father. Raised in Indonesia by his step-father Lolo Soetoro, then later, sent to Hawaii to live with his Communist grandparents. There, Barry Soetoro (only 10 yrs. old) was mentored by a known Communist, Frank Marshall Davis and Barry’s grandparents, until he graduated from high school.
Barry entered Occidental College as Barry Soetoro, an exchange student from Indonesia. Two years later, he enrolled @ Columbia University where Obama networks with Marxist professors/followers, black radicals and Pakistani students.
After graduating from Harvard Law School, Obama meets Bill Ayers, known terrorist and co-founder of the Underground Weather. Obama is inspired by Ayers to run for public office and is supported by the “New Party”, an organization that was originally called the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
Barack Obama’s 20 yr. association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright had left Obama with many political scars and enhanced Obama’s desire for social order in government.
Today, Barack Obama still claims his devotion to Islam, while mocking Christianity. President Barack Obama plans to cut military spending in half, eliminating 80% of our defense weapons, including nuclear weapons and make the US dependent of energy, especially from petroleum oil. The economy is sliding back into recession, with a good chance to hit rock bottom. If this happens, the free world, as we know it, will be devastated. It will be then when the Islamic nations take over, with the help of Russia, ending democracy.
There is a dark side of Barack Obama that separates his ideals from those who live and believe in “We the People………….”. Form your own opinion, if you like, but mine rests heavily on the future of our great nation.
May God bless America.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, over and over and over and over AGAIN.
everyone go see the movie its called Y2k..the end of the world..as we know it .the year 2000..oh my bad...go see the movie 2016 Obama's America..because the same dimwits don't know s-it about the future..tell them Pat Robertson sent you you will get half off the ticket at the box office???????????..oh you tea nuts you still have food left over from the year 2000..that's OK you can save it and eat it in 2016
no one is reading all of that...its the same tripe from 2008...no one cares.
This is true...That is why you were "collapsed" by the liberal "community".
why does fox news b-tch about Americans wanting to see Romney's taxes that's not news
Romney has 5 lazy sons who have never served in the military in a time of war...or work a day in there lives...talk about a handout of just of one family..like father like sons
Ronmey has 5 lazy sons? They never served? They are kids. Has Obama served? No! As far as Tax records, has Obama released any records? NO!!!!! He and Michelle were both disbarred as well. He still has not proved he was born here. He is the furthest for a transparent president we have ever had. He has done nothing good in office yet. He has constantly had his goons playing the race card trying to reignite a civil war. A little clue for all of you. He is not Black, he is mixed race. He is just as White as Black. He doesn't care about women or life at all. He doesn't care about America at ALL. He doesn't care about the Constitution at ALL. He should not be in the race at ALL!
Mike - you're deluded.
All quotes are from FactCheck.org:
Obama has released 11 years of tax returns.
(He has since release four additional years).
He was not "disbarred".
And the birther thing is for imbeciles.
Have you seen Romney's birth certificate? His dad was Mexican, you know.
I thought that we are attacking only political candidates...Libs are now attacking families of candidates?
Sure, spesetfides, because the Republicans never make derogatory comments about Michelle and the kids now, do they?
Lush Limballs, YOU LIE!!! Just like your namesake! President Obama released 7 yrs. of tax records. Every presidential candidate in recent history, including Sarah (airhead) Palin has released their tax records!!! I guess because Mitt the Twit is a multi-millionaire, he thinks he is above the rules and so does he snooty, fake plastic wife "Why are they picking on us"!! And President Obama and Michelle have not been disbarred, they put their practice on "hold" because, oh lets see, they are the President and First Lady and have been the last 4 years! Romneys sons are all adults and could have served in Iraq or Afghanistan. Obama was only a kid during Vietnam and in the 90s he would have been to old and was a civil rights lawyer in Chicago and then served as an Illinois Senator from 97-2004. He was a US Senator from 2005-2008 (who voted against the war) prior to becoming President! As far as his college transripts, they are irrelavant and nobody is asking to see Mitt's either. What we want to see is his tax returns because we think he is a tax evader and possibly has comitted a felony (lying to the SEC) which would disqualify him from running. I think this is why he is stalling! Something in those tax records is illegal or would turn voters off! Why would someone want to vote for a guy who is a tax cheater to the very country he wants to be president of? He does not care about the little people (99%) in this country, just the rich he is so beholden to as they have poured billlions into his campaign so he can be their little token puppet President and do their bidding. If Robme gets in, he will turn America into "Corporate Run America" run by the Koch Bros. (big oil), Grover Norquist (big @!$%#) Donald Trump (another big @!$%#) big insurance, big pharma, who will take us back 30 yrs. and privatize ss, slash medicare, medicaid and foodstamps and throw the middle, poor and elderly under the bus!! Say "no" to Olgarchy in November and vote straight Democrate! Obama 2012
Elvis pyane: . your big yap sure doesn't mention your service to the country.hummmm! Oh, and get off the crapper saying, I'm not running for president. So again my question, what branch? And don't come back and ask me. I served in vietNam. that answers that question. Now, what branch?
Elvis pyane: Your big bazoo doesn't mention what you do for a living. So tell me. and don't ask me what I do. I am retired.
You being a doctor, you should well know that the human digestive system was not evolved for the purpose of sexual gratification.
Ironic how you tell a Republican to get of the crapper when in reality, it's the other way around.
Nothing morally wrong with your lifestyle ,but it does have side-effects.
Bigot
Obama was ignorant enough to promise a 50% reduction in the national debt. His math is just a little off. More like double the national debt. Explain why..............libbers?
Start with true facts and we'll join in.
when did he say that so i can look it up..i do remember he said my goal is to cut the deficit in half???
You wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit you in the a$$.
He didn't Elvis, just more LYING PROPAGANDA
Say what you can before they collapse you top drum. Even you libs should be upset that they collapse every alternative viewpoint.
I should not respond cause the mod likes collapsing anything he does not like. Why don't you try and be fair here at MSNBC. at least let us make legitimate arguments instead of closing every post u don't like. Can I have your name MR. MOD I want to report you.
Bye
you people have tried to get rid of me..for over 3 years now ..now what did you say
Don't say anything against Obama, or they will "Comment collapsed by the Community." So much for free speech...Free speech for libs.
free speech? I didn't realize collapsing comments meant you were being PUNISHED BY THE LAW. Idiot.
why does Romney have 5 lazy sons ..who want government health care when there daddy becomes President...I don't want to take care of 5 lazy sons on my dime..meaning tax money
Why not? You don't have a problem taking care of half the country that pays no federal tax.
Boy is that not the truth. Seems everyone is scrambling for a piece of free pie on here. We do not turn this country around now we will head towards another civil war. We at some point have to agree that everything is not free and the government works for us. They are not our Momma'a and Daddy's Hold them accountable and lets get an administration in there that can get something done. No matter who it is.No more failed promises by these politicians if you fail you are out.
How long can we continue to do nothing. Ok back to work it is "Labor Day" after all. Chop chop.
Headed for a civil war! Thats what a Texas judge has predicted if Obama wins thew election ! Guess the tea party won't accept an election defeat so will try to over throw the free elections that we are suppose to have. Guess I better go by some assault rifles to defend myself against my Tea party sons.
I'm not quite as old as Betty White but almost and I was homeless when Hoover was in office thanks to FDR that I now have social security as my only so-called hand-out and they think I should pay tax on it since I am one of the fifty percent that doesn't pay Tax.