Betteroff,

Do you work for the RNC?

Just wondering.

It was NOT a forward looking vision -- it was a backward looking vision -- a nostalgia trip back to Mayberry.

Mitt said that he was going to help our families by ignoring climate change.

Another president with a business background was Hoover (mining) and you know how that went.

You are crazy, this man (Romney) and his cronies are looking for another war. To insult leader of other countries is begging for trouble and to blatantly attack Putin is rude and crazy. In addition, it also sound like he is ready for war with Iran. This is scary.

he was going to help our families by ignoring climate change.

EXACTLY!!!! If you think that destroying the environment is the "cool" thing to do, YOU ARE DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF YOUR CHILDREN. DRILLING FOR OIL IS NOT THE SOLUTION...

That is only the solution of the people that are paying for his convention!!!!

One thing I do know from the speech is that Mitt loves coal. It will not only solve our energy problems but also our jobs problems.

And pollution? No matter; dam.n the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

I found Clint but I can't find Romney. NBC do you have a problem?

Mitten's was preaching to the choir. Now he's got 3 debates to get through, and if you think he's going to be able to push that nonsense he was spewing with O standing next to him on that stage, you people have another thought coming. Obama is going to chew him up and spit him all over the audience.!!!LOL!!!

O&Joe 2012

Doug-384925

Mitt said that he was going to help our families by ignoring climate change.

Yes, the grand-kids will be able to afford a shovel and bucket to clean up the mess. Drill baby drill, frack baby frack.

irespond, there will be a new face in the oval office. Get used to it.

RIGHT! I would hope that ANYBODY THAT believes in peace, that the earth is NOT FLAT, that believes that we MUST take care of the environment, and does not insult other dignataries like the Brtish, and Putin, and the people from Iran...WOULD THINK OTHERWISE

Romney did his home work.

The # of jobs he promised is the same number ALL ECONOMISTS have predicted no matter WHO is President.

Somehow...he managed to support President Obama!

What the hell was that "real American" stuff all about?

BTW:Post #1.22.... tch tch naughty.... COH

John Bolton, war-monger hawk neo-con sure gave Romney the word on his WAR WAR WAR plan for a Romney Presidency.

Parents...teach your kids to duck & cover.

"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt."

John Adams 1826

VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

Is Mitt through yet? I dozed off somewhere in the middle of his tenth or eleventh non-sequitur. Clint's empty chair had more charisma.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

After today, I am more impressed than ever at Mitt Romney's ability to be a great President and turn around this country.

Romney/Ryan 2012

Romney is going to run this country like a business. After his experience running Bain you know what that means right?

He going to take out huge loans,pay his cronies contributors associates huge commissions on the loan, then he'll bring in all the buyers he has lined up to part out the country.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

Mitt is unimpressive...his speech is full of lies or half-truth, and a bunch of bull.

Mitt should run for Baseball Commissioner, only position this Mitt is fit for.

We all wanted our President to succeed - Romney

I guess Mitch, Paul, Boehner, Cantor, and all the rest of the do nothing gang didn't tell Mitt about their plan to make Obama a one term President.

I would just like to note that Newsvine has a policy against using multiple accounts.

I found it odd with all that talk and speech and rhetoric, I STILL didn't hear what he plans on doing or how he plans on getting the debt under control. Just another speech with LARGE generalizations and he yet he wants my vote.........

...We all wanted our President to succeed?

really?? yet another lie!

Remember Republicant Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell told everyone to destroy the Obama presidency?

The Beast is upon you? Wait, aren't you supposed to be atheists and not believe in that stuff?

Romney is as charismatic as a department store dummy. He isn't glib, he isn't suave and he isn't polished, he is borderline boring. He isn't a celebrity who inspires a cult-like following, no one will be creating little action figure dolls of him or posters of him looking heroic and superior. There isn't an advertising campaign to create the Romney 'brand' that will be mass marketed, he won't inspire special songs, written by the advertising campaign and he won't be hailed as the saviour of mankind, imbued with special powers.

Who knows how good of a president he will be, he doesn't have the Madison Avenue machine creating the image and brand like Obama did, but...all the marketing in the world, all the wag-the-dog machinations will not create a real leader. These last four years should have shown us that a Manchurian candidate isn't a leader and no amount of marketing and brand creation will sell a product if that product isn't working, doesn't live up to its claims and causes harm to those exposed to it.

Ridiculous comment kumar. Even ol' Ryan gladly took stimulus money. Wait for the Independent voters to help Obama return to office. Can you really want an elite man like Romney? And tell me--what plan does he have for jumping outta the recession. This is a world crisis. Stop simplistically trying to blame it on our President!

Beverly-The true bigot...(referencing your insult last night to Gov. Christie about his weight while at the same time squealing if someone says something about Obama)

Romney is by far the best of the two candidates. Four years ago we were promised hope and change, today we have no hope and very little change in our pockets.

Yeah.....we all know what that "real Americans" phrase means. That's ok though, Robme/Ruin will have plenty of time to wipe the tears of those "real Americans" on election night and thereafter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/28/republican-national-convention-the-one-graph-you-need-to-see-before-watching/

After hearing Mitt Romney's speech, many of Ron Paul's (libertarians) were very uneasy. Saber-rattling with Iran, increase in defense spending, No-love for Russia, etc.

On the energy front, Mitt Romney keeps repeating coal, oil, natural, nuclear, and renewable. Renewable is a small footnote in his policy paper. He is going to outsource the job of regulating the drilling, lease allotments to the States and give them a free hand to mess up the environment.

No wonder Mitt is not worried about the raise of Sea levels. Perhaps he is waiting for next Ice Age (45,000 years+) to save us from raise in sea level.

Kumar-889209, Go back to your pigeon hole. Your friends Dinesh DeSouza and Ramesh Ponneru are waiting for you man!!

All you people must have been watching CNN coverage, where the group of liberal idiots were bashing the GOP left and right. What CNN seemed to forgot to show was the singing of AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL! But hey, you can't blame them, that song is "inflammatory" and "divides us" so why would they show it in the first place right? And, oh yeah, they forgot to show the closing ceremony's where the Cardinal led a PRAYER! But of course, Liberals hate freedom of religion and wouldn't want to show that nonsense on national t.v; they would rather talk over it, hating on Mitt and how his speech "didn't appeal enough to women," and "didn't reveal his real personality"

Four years ago, I listened to a speech that basically said nothing more than Hope & Change, with Yes We Can......and many of us as well as the media thought it was just wonderful. Now suddenly you want specifics and details and have nothing to say but critical things. While I voted for President Obama in 2008 I find myself today thinking........how could things possibly be any worse than they are today and does it really matter who wins this election? I can't say for certain that anything can change in Washington.....but I believe we all know one thing that has to change in order to save the country....and that is the person sitting in the White House!! I am not saying I am excited about Mitt Romney....but we simply can't afford 4 more years of President Obama. I can admit I made a mistake in 2008, but I won't be making that same mistake again this time around!!

Unbelievable - I can't believe some of the dopes on this site think climate is the critical issue --- WAKE UP or take another bong hit -. The current President is a disaster in every thing he touches. Oh yeah -we'll have nice clean air to breath while we're on line for food stamps. 16 Trillion in debt, no economic plan, but we'll be able to breath deep. Obama should just resign tonight.

Lots of fluff and no substance tonight. I'm no mind reader, but I can read between the lines. Romney would be a tragic mistake.

Who knows how good of a president he will be, he doesn't have the Madison Avenue machine creating the image and brand like Obama did, but...all the marketing in the world, all the wag-the-dog machinations will not create a real leader.

Mygirl1 - You're full of @!$%#. NitMitt will be spending $1 bil on Madison Ave image creating. And as far as O, you better check the real facts, and not pay so much attention to Rush Limpballs....

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O&Joe 2012(By a Landslide)

I respect the office of President and I acknowledge what this country wants and needs to represent them. However, I do not respect someone that builds their candidacy on nothing but lies and hate and is the spokesperson for the Koch bros and Sheldon Adelson. I do not think Mitt Romney "needs" to be president nor does Paul Ryan need to be the second in command. These two lie like thieves and if they want that "crown" then dangint it all ... they should tell the truth about what they have done to rape this country and account for their votes!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mitt-romney-is-lying-again-20120830

My girl,

That not beleiving in god stuff if just part of the republican lie machine, Just like the ones you are telling I'll be praying for you.

Democrats seem to be either protraying themselves as victims (not a winning strategy for a President) or lashing out with the "boring", "elitist" claims (also a losing strategy).

As far as a choice betwen the environment or putting food on the table (thats an easy choice for all but the most elite in the country).

The last time the economy this bad but the incumbent re-elected was FDR in 1936, the same problem of GOP-caused depression. The economy did not come back to life until after the end of WWII - and never forget the impact of the war on the economy - the ultimate stimulus. But, Bush's 2 wars did us in, instead of pulling us out.

Romney is totally wrong to blame this on Obama - maybe it's also out of fashion to blame Bush, after all, Bush is hiding in his home and not even invited to the GOP convention - you know why? Secretly, the GOP also believes that Bush is at fault for the whole mess.

It's time for a REAL change!

Under the Republican party (16yrs): two wars started, manufacturing jobs fled to other nations, airlines deregulated (now they can charge whatever they want), anyone that can print a name on paper could get an expensive house(since no one bother to supervise the banks), gas prices hit new highs, lots of CEO drove their companies to the ground then collected a ton of cash, and bonds that people trust around the world collapse. We need to protect world, not break it, there are no more earths around this solar system; therefore war and pollution is not the answer. Jobs can be created, for a lot people, it is all in space exploration. The president needs more time to correct 16yrs of republican leadership.

Nash Nari - What do you enjoy so much about Obama's welfare society? Or are you one of the 45% who pays no federal income tax and mooches off everyone else? Most everyone should be paying some federal income tax, even if it is just $100 so everyone will be contributing and "have skin in the game." Obama is buying votes by creating a welfare society!

President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.

President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…

President Obama: (reaching over and putting his hand on Mr. Medvedev’s knee): This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.

President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

OBAMA - BE HONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND STOP YOUR BACKDOOR DEALS WITH YOUR BUDDY PUTIN!!!

The Romney Vote is inconsequential.

You'll REALLY be voting for:

John Bolton,, war-monger neo conservative

Grover Norquist,...buddy of the 1% no tax pledge guy

Carl Rove & FOX & Co.

Common Sense Mike: common sense is uncommon with you, brother!! I will not go any further to convince you that Obama has achieved a lot (domestic policies, health care, financial regulation, environmental regulations, foreign and defense polices) in these 3 1/2 years. Plus although many (23+ millions) are unemployed or underemployed, if not for his policies and actions, you would be seeing 40 million unemployed and 15% unemployment.

Keep voting for Mitt Romney and he would throw you a rope when the sea level raise enough to swallow your coastal town.

What was wrong with Clint Eastwood? Do he suffer from some medical issue.

Huh? Did Romney say something? If you wanna see something good, turn to ESPN for the (Venus) Williams/Kerber match! Third set, close game!

Somehow, I think the top comment will be collapsed by the community because of the liberals... again.

F%CK!! I just realized that Eastwood wasn't Romney. Took a couple of replays though.

Mitt hit it out of the park and so did Marco. Clint is getting a little softer now but made some good points. We all know that barry has failed miserably and is not a leader and must go for the good of the country. Most libs will stick with barry anyway but you independents are the ones who should look at both and decide who is better. The choice is clear to me, of course, since I'm pro Romney but you are the ones who will make a difference so choose wisely, our future depends on it.

Top 12 Economic Data Romney don’t want voters to know:

1. When W. Bush left office, our GDP was at minus 9 and today is positive 2.

2. When Bush left office, Down Jones was at 7,949.09 point, minus 24%, and today is at 13,000 points, up 61% since Mr. Obama took office. Similarly, when Bush left office, my 401K was half value, and today is double.

3. When Bush left office, we had over 12 months jobs lost consecutively, 800K jobs lost per month, spiral to a depression. Mr. Obama stops the bleed, and he has produced 29 month jobs growth consecutively.

4. When Bush left office, corporation profits was down at 1 trillion dollars level, and today is up 1.7 Trillion dollars, which is 58 % increased.

5. When Bush left office, Export was down at minus 30%, and today is positive 7 percent. Both export and import are growing again.

6. When Bush left office, we have higher trade deficit, and today is a lot less.

7. When Bush left office, household income was down, and today much higher. In fact, it’s much higher than real GDP.

8. Manufactures employment has gone up since Bush left office.

9. When Bush left office, we had a depression in auto industry, and today GM is saved and the industry is profit again, thanks to Mr. Obama and his courage.

10. If GOP congress approves American job Act that produce 1-2 million jobs, instead of sitting on it since last summer, unemployment rate would down by 1% point or 7.2% overall according to WSJ.

11 During the 28 years of Democratic presidents, 57.5 million new jobs were created, an average of 2.05 million per year vs. During the 36 years of Republican presidents, 36.2 million new jobs were created, an average of 1.0 million per year.

12. Why do we need a Wall Street raider that created this financial crisis in 2008, and who provides no specific solution to address our concerns? Don't we have enough?

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/the-white-houses-economic-case-for-reelection-in-13-more-charts/256745/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/27/the-gdp-report-in-6-charts/

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/has-obama-made-the-job-situation-worse/?hp

http://social.dol.gov/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-07-121.jpg

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=82586&category_id=0

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?graph_id=82587&category_id=0

• Ahhhh the pleasure of scrolling past all of the hate, I Love it, it's like going for a walk on the beach in the morning.

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Mitt: "We all wanted our President to succeed"

liar liar, mitt on fire.

How many times the GOP in congress refused to help the President on many job creation bills.

Throw the GOP bums out from Congress, vote our Dem bums in when elections come on 11/6

Top 10 about Mitt Romney:

Romney Lies: He Did Not Start Staples--Romney didn't like the idea at all. He thought Staples was a bad investment and turned Bessemer down. Not once, not twice, but three times.

Romney did not save the Salt Lake City Olympics. He got a Republican Congress to give $1.3
billion of TAXPAYER money to the corrupt SLC Olympic committee. So, U.S. TAXPAYERS saved the SLC Olympics - you know, the games that are supposed to be privately sponsored, etc.

Romney gives large sums of money to a church that is largely an investment fund manager.

Tagg Romney on dinner: 'Dad always goes first in line.’ He doesn’t eat at dinner table with his family.

Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them

Mitt Romney has made Robert Bork a chairman of his Justice Advisory Committee. Romney picked Mr. Bork for his legal views, the choice is disturbing. Mr. Bork to be on the wrong side of many settled legal issues: he opposed to 1964 Civil Rights Act; he believes that women have no right to contraception; he wants to ban art and science; and he believes that government can criminalize sex, and he believes No Constitutional Protection for Women.

A Center for American Progress Action Fund analysis shows that, far from creating 12 million jobs, Romney’s economic plan would kill 360,000 jobs in 2013 alone. Romney job number, the math doesn’t add up.

Greg Mankiw and Glenn Hubbard, who both worked for former President George W. Bush — estimated that the Bush tax cuts would lead to massive job growth, but instead it was short by 8.9 million jobs, and they are currently advise Romney.

“On net, all of Romney economic policies would do more harm in the short term,” added Mark Hopkins, a senior adviser at Moody’s Analytics. “If we implemented all of his policies, it would push us deeper into recession and make the recovery slower.”

Source: think progress and wapo

Then the answer is to abolish taxes. At the Federal level, almost half of the country pays no taxes and gets money back in an interesting scenario termed a 'credit.' Poverty levels have indeed risen, interesting how much they have risen in the last almost four years under the 'leadership' of Obama. More people are getting food stamps and one third of the country is getting welfare and you STILL don't get it, do you? Is there a disconnect, some faulty wiring that causes the Obama supporters to pretend or ignore just how bad things truly are under the stewardship of their hero?

Sorry, when a nation has almost one third of it's citizens on welfare, something is seriously broken...and no, Bush is not in office and hasn't been for awhile now. This is the longest recession in American history, generally they bounce back in one and a half to two years, that is they do when the 'leader' isn't holding his boot against the neck of the people.

“Well, that's a term that's being used rather freely. I don't think it's that divisive of an issue. I think we have right now, we have dueling points of view strongly held by both sides. And the president is starting to go to the mattresses, just as the Republicans are going to go to the mattresses to try to win the election.

What could have been more divisive than when President Obama was inaugurated for a number of Republicans, friends of mine and a number of commentators to say, we are going to destroy him. We are going to destroy him. “ {Colin Powell}

Mitt Romney called for taxes on the poor & middle class, saying low-income Americans having no income tax liability is "a problem" that will "kill the country." He wants each family to pay 2K dollars according to Tax Policy Center.

Mitt Romney has proposed tax cuts for the rich and corporations that would cost $7.8 trillion over 10 years

Mitt Romney's top economic adviser Greg Mankiw said the "offshoring" of American jobs was a good thing.

Mitt Romney called the auto bailout "tragic." After it succeeded his campaign claimed he "had the idea first." BTW, Romney did not mind government bailout Bain Capital for $10 million dollars in 1991 when he was a CEO.

Mitt Romney supports privatizing Social Security and Medicare.

Mitt Romney said he wants to "get the federal government out of education."

As governor, Mitt Romney vetoed a minimum wage increase to $8 an hour.

Mitt Romney's advice on the foreclosure crisis: "Don't try and stop the foreclosure process."

The former Bain Capital managing director said of Mitt Romney's tenure: "We had a scheme where the rich got richer."

Mitt Romney had converted management fees (ordinary income) into capital gains, which would be taxed at 15 percent, instead of 30-40 %. I guess 23 offshore accounts overseas in Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Swiss Banks, etc. is not enough.

Mitt Romney called the auto bailout "tragic." After it succeeded his campaign claimed he "had the idea first."

Mitt Romney, who lambasts the "failures" of government-backed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, profits from investments in the firms.

Mitt Romney opposes troop withdrawal from Iraq.

Mitt Romney said that catching bin Laden would be "insignificant" and it's "not worth moving heaven and earth."

Mitt Romney wanted "bombardment" of Iran.

Mitt Romney advocated doubling the size of Guantanamo.

Mitt Romney criticized President Obama for a nearly identical green energy program Romney set up in his state. Three of the six companies the Massachusetts fund invested in are now defunct or struggling.

Mitt Romney wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned.

source: think progress

OK sharriannie- Wrote this saying vote for Romney?

"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt."

John Adams 1826.

Tonight I heard Mitt Say F Putin F IRAN And he will have a Backbone. Meaning lets get that WAR machine going again. Yesterday Mccain was touting the same crap.

Now just a modern day history and not so history lesson for those who have already forgot. The previous Administrations. 8 YEARS we have been at war for over 10 years.

ONE IS BY SWORD = IRAQ WAR + Afghanistan WAR Started by who? A republican President named Bush. Afghanistan oh hell yeah We killed Osama. But IRAQ? Haliburton!!!!

TWO the other is by Debt. = Tax breaks during two wars and taking on the banking industries DEBT. Right before he left office and through his last four years A Republican PRESIDENT. We were at the brink of a GREAT DEPRESSION.

In the real World you have to pay for spending even for WARS.

Obama = 3 1/2+ years in office one WAR over and the Guy we were looking for in Afghanistan is DEAD. Now one war to end. Lets not start another war. Lets have them start one and we can Quickly finish it. Whomever THEY ARE.

Romney is a Puppet just like GW same dumb look on his face when he is reading. From the words on the screen. It is all laid out for him and he cant get that right. And you all want him running a country?

I will not go any further to convince you that Obama has achieved a lot (domestic policies, health care, financial regulation, environmental regulations, foreign and defense polices) in these 3 1/2 years. Plus although many (23+ millions) are really unemployed or underemployed, if not for his policies and actions, you would be seeing 40 million unemployed and 15% unemployment.

Wait a minute here. I thought Republicans obstructed Obama from doing anything, now you are telling me they didn't? Which is it? All I've heard is how everything is Bush's fault and Republicans won't let Obama do anything.....but now I hear I should be proud of all of his accomplishments? Can Democrats be any more hypocritical? I love hearing how things could have been so much worse, but explain......do you have a crystal ball or something? I could just as easily say that Republicans have saved or created 10 million jobs since 2010. If it hadn't been for the Republican House, none of us would have a job today. Can you see how that sounds? Stop apologizing and making excuses for this President. He is fully capable of doing that for himself as we have seen.

I don't think Romney can win because not a lot of people like him, not even in the republican party. Most of the votes from republicans will come from who are saying "Anybody but Obama", not "Romney is a good candidate". I'm an Independent and am truly undecided what to do, but I know I just don't have any faith in Romney/Ryan and don't care for them much. I like Obama a little more, but he hasn't gotten much done. So....I don't really care much who wins this time, I just don't think Romney will pull it off.

gotta admit that I got a boot out of the article saying that Romney used "a traditional attack line against an incumbent president, Romney said, “This president can tell us that the next four years he’ll get it right. But this president cannot tell us that you are better off today than when he took office.” Just because it is traditional doesn't mean it's not true! Heck, even the Obama media that wrote the article doesn't dispute it. Even now, there is no one in the media that can tell you what Obama has done that is right for you and the country. All they can do is make fun of anyone who isn't a socialist Obama lover. Nearly $6 trillion in additional debt under Obama has produced what? Certainly not jobs. Certainly not prosperity. Certainly not increases in family income. The fact is that no one actually believes what comes out of the WH these days. Just take the July unemployment figures. 1,300,000 million less people employed at that end of the month than at the beginning of the month. Unemployment goes up, and yet Obama claims to have created 163,000 jobs. Heck, that even fails every derivative of "new math" that can be fathomed.

As for Romney, imagine, his idea of energy independence is to produce enough energy to support ourselves. Obama's idea is cut production of the energy we use and to raise prices so that energy that isn't affordable becomes the cheapest alternative. That sure sounds like a winner. I also have a bridge to sell you that is sure to make you millions!

Did you see that? What a piece of garbage. Is this joker even American? Zieg Heil! lets go to war!

Disgusting.

My eyes hurt from all the white faces. News flash, not America in 2012.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Still waiting for Romney to explain:

1. Why he won't release more than a year of tax returns. Didn't he provide
something like 23 years of tax returns to McCain as part of the VP
candidate vetting process in '08?

2. Why he put his money in overseas tax shelters, like the Cayman Islands?

3. Why he feels the need to have a Swiss bank account worth millions of
dollars. Why not hold the money in an American bank? Does Romney not
believe in America?

4. Why he transferred ownership of a shell company in Bermuda to his wife the day before he was sworn in as Governor of MA?

5. Why he bought the computers used in the Governor's office when he left
MA, thereby eliminating emails and other official documents from the
public record?

6. Why he felt the need to lie about his tenure as leader of Bain Capital, which ended in 2002, three years after he claims he left Bain. Or, are his filings with the SEC fraudulent? What is Romney hiding? Why hasn't he come clean on these and so many other questions?

Source: Paula from Boston wrote

OneOfTheSane - I had a glass of wine during his speech and it didn't help. Pretty much had enough when he said "It takes an American to accomplish great things."

Kumar - Pretty easy after reading "Ask Not What Good We Do". I mean I knew what Liabaugh had said and I knew what I was seeing in the Congress. After hearing Gingrich's response in an interview about the book and then reading it, actually, very easy! Going to read "The New New Deal" next which I uderstand is more about Mitch McConnell, et al.

Bob - No, I don't hate freedom of religion. I don't like the extreme religious right deciding that women's lives, health care, and freedoms should be controled and dictated by their beliefs. They talk about small govenment. Well, putting their govenment into everyone's bedrooms, and trying to control decisions on whether or not to have another child by preventing the availability of birth control, and putting themselves smack dab in the middle of every doctor-patient pregnancy is not SMALL GOVERNMENT. Or the Kansas bill passed by the newly elected Tea-party folks, titled something like 'protection of religious freedom rights' which is primarily about being able to force a business to fire a gay person and preventing people or business from renting a room or appartment to a gay person.

Did you hear about the "charming" delagates who decided to throw nuts at a CNN black camerawoman while shouthing "This is how we feed the animals"?

Let break down Mitt Romney’s foreign trip:

a/ His campaign lied about Anglo-Saxon

b/ Mitt Romney gaffes or just straight talk

1. London Olympic is "disconcerting" and their people would not be enthusiastic about it.

2. He referred Ed Miliband as Mr. Leader.

3. He bragged about MI16 that supposed to be Top Secrete

Let be honest, Mitt Romney has no foreign policy experience, and he's NOT COMPETENT.

Really...you think Romney needs the headache of the role of President (like he needs the money) ... Obama is a nice guy ... with no real experience to lead the USA ... he is not a bad guy he is just not getting the job done. Romney is a smart business man and that is what the USA needs ... Obama is a good talker ... charismatic but it is clear he can not get the job done....we need positive change.

“What could have been more divisive than when President Obama was inaugurated for a number of Republicans, friends of mine and a number of commentators to say, we are going to destroy him. We are going to destroy him. “ {Colin Powell}

Ten of Romney’s foreign policy failures

Two hundred and ninety-one days after his last foreign policy speech, Mitt Romney stood up once more to deliver a major foreign policy plan and—once again—failed to offer any new or even credible policy ideas.

Romney has long displayed a significant lack of knowledge and experience over the years when it comes to foreign policy. But the commander-in-chief only has one chance to make the right decision. Here’s a look at ten times Romney and his campaign got it wrong:

1. Romney “has been especially vague about how many U.S. forces he would keep in Afghanistan” and has no detailed plan for our engagement in the country.
2. Romney’s campaign said “real Americans” don’t care what Romney’s Afghanistan policy is.
3. Before Osama bin Laden’s death, Romney said he wouldn’t go into Pakistan if we had bin Laden in our sights and that it was “not worth moving heaven and earth” to find bin Laden.
4. Romney pledged “to do the opposite” of what President Obama has done for Israel, which includes record-level security funding.
5. Romney called Russia, a strategic partner of the United States on vital issues, America’s “number one geopolitical foe.”
6. When asked how he’d approach going to war with Iran, Romney has said he’d defer to his lawyers: “You sit down with your attorneys” so they can “tell you what you have to do.”
7. Romney has said that bringing all our troops home from Iraq was “tragic” and that it was a “naked political calculation.”
8. Romney “fled down a hallway and escaped up an escalator” to avoid answering a reporter about his position on the NATO mission in Libya.
9. Romney called the fading power of Venezeula’s leader Hugo Chavez a serious threat to our national security.
10. Romney’s campaign said President Obama was not doing enough to protect Czechoslovakia—a country that no longer exists—from “the Soviets.”

For all the empty headed brain washed weak minded people who are stuck on Hope and Change thing.

During Obama’s 2008 campaign, many of my conservative colleagues were harshly critical of the then-senator’s campaign message of “hope and change,” demonizing it as lofty but empty rhetoric. Four years later, I think it’s time we acknowledge some of the areas where Obama has actually delivered on these promises.

Here are just a few examples:

● With America struggling amid massive unemployment, a languishing economy, and skyrocketing debt, President Obama went straight to the heart of the problem and tackled it head on — by raising taxes, imposing more regulations, and ensuring that independent business owners were no longer operating under the false belief that their smarts and hard work are responsible for the success they’ve achieved or hope to one day achieve. Change we can all — collectively! — believe in.

● Amid the weakest economic recovery in the postwar period, with another recession appearing increasingly likely and uncertainty about taxes and health care costs preventing companies from hiring, President Obama stepped up to introduce the stability that America so gravely needed: not for our private sector — which, of course, is doing fine — but for 30-something students like Sandra Fluke, who are forced to wake up each morning not knowing whether the government will pay for their birth control.

● Most of all, I had confidence that President Obama would deliver on his promise of running the most transparent administration ever. And I’m proud to say that the president has kept his word on that, too. Sure, he may have refused to release records about his Department of Justice’s illegal gun-walking operation in Mexico, which has resulted in more than 300 murders, but on the issues that really matter to Americans — like Mitt Romney’s tax returns — there has been no greater warrior on behalf of transparency than President Obama.

● Finally, with Americans terrified that programs like Medicare and Social Security are headed for bankruptcy, President Obama has proven to be a beacon of hope. By raiding $716 billion from the Medicare system to start a new open-ended entitlement program and creating a new bureaucratic board to slash the program even further, he has ensured that Americans won’t have to lose any sleep over the stability of this program. Seniors now have the clarity that comes with knowing Medicare will be steeply cut by their bureaucratic superiors. They can peacefully plan for their last years without worrying that Medicare might be there for them.

Now our great leader is getting into the full swing of his re-election campaign, and is again focused on the big, inspirational issues that unite us as Americans — issues like the war on women, how Mitt Romney made his money, how Mitt Romney might somehow be responsible for the death of a woman with cancer, and how to force religious employers to pay for abortion-inducing drugs. Obama won’t be sidetracked or distracted by divisive issues like jobs and the economy.

The bottom line is Obama promised hope and change, and he delivered — big time. He has moved us sharply away from those nasty free markets and into the arms of benevolent central planners. We have “invested” trillions of dollars! What could be better? Who wouldn’t want four more years of this?

"One of the few management details that is known is that that Romney tried to steer Olympic business from Office Depot to Staples, a company he sat on the board of while running the Games. Perhaps there are more links between Romney’s finances, Bain and the Olympics." Have you wonder how many more companies like Office Depot that Romney steer to Bain while he was running Utah Olympic?

"Romney continually says he is proud of his record in Massachusetts, proud of his record at the Olympics and proud of his record of Bain. We're supposed to take him at his word. He will not share with American voters any of the details.

"He destroyed documents that reveal what he did in Massachusetts and at the Olympics.

Why he won't release more than a year of tax returns. Didn't he provide something like 23 years of tax returns to McCain as part of the VP candidate vetting process in '08?

When he ran for Governor in M.A, he asked his opponents for their tax returns, but he never release his own records?

Why he transferred ownership of a shell company in Bermuda to his wife the day before he was sworn in as Governor of MA?

"He won’t disclose details of his tenure at Bain Capital.

"He won’t disclose who is bundling money for his campaign.

He won't disclose detail of his policy, because there are not popular and he would lose.

He will not tell us how he managed to get $100 million dollars in his IRA or what is in his 23 offshore accounts in Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Swiss Banks, etc.

"With each passing week, the list gets longer.

It makes you wonder: what is Willard Mitt Romney hiding? “

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/#48684212

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/what-is-mitt-romney-hiding/

If elected president Mitt Romney the multimillionaire white guy from Harvard would fight for all millionairs. Raise taxes on the middle class and put the poor and elderly on the street. Romney will fix Social Security by taking Security out of it.

This is a pathetic joke. Whomever wins in November is going to be the President that will be known as the one who was in office when the country went down the drain. In 2015 around half of our national debt comes due and I don't think either candidate is going to be able to cough up $7 trillion even with totally cutting out SS, Medicare, the Pentagon, etc down to the nothing, along with taxing the 1% folks %100. The election season is nothing more than a farce. Both these schucks have Goldman Sachs as their largest campaign contributors. That righ there has to tell you something. Didn't Obama get elected over reversing the stupid wars? And he has kept it up and even expanded it? Now we have Romney bringing in W's foreign policy people again just in time to bomb Iran and finsh off poor Syria. I do not see any difference between Romney and if we got W in office again, and folks of the GOP are all excited over this? Wake the @!$%# up people!!!!!!!! Fundamentally, there really hasn't been much change in either economic policy or foreign policy since I have been alive(Nixon baby here). Dumb wars, creeping inflation, and stagnant and now falling living standards. The list of nations we have bombed, invaded, or overthrown their legit governemnts since the end of WW II is staggering. I don't think the USSR could touch us!!!!!!! Over the last 100 years our dollar has lost 95% of its value, and we accuse China of currency manipulation. They might be screwing us over in trade, but we are screwing them over being our number one creditors and having them being paid back in ever more worthless dollars. Go ahead get all excited over Mitt and Ryan. More war and debt coming our way, but they will privatize SS, which means you will go from a govt lcok box to gambling your retirement all on Wall St and lose it all when the next bubble crashes.

Heart warming knowing millions of americans are actually witnessing the dysfunction exposed. Feel bad for the man. Feel bad for the party. We have ALL suffered because of the last ENTIRE decade. What a waste. BTW, thanks republicans for being such great "american" team players on the hope and change thing.

Well, the mess is finally over. Oddest political convention I ever witnessed. Romney and Ryan are now allowed loose to prowl the cities and towns of the nation. Why?, though, is an unanswered question. These 2 couldn't beat "Simon Legree teamed with Freddie Krueger" even if the total electorate were to go on a 3 month drunk. What the hell were the GOP hierarchy thinking? Doesn't matter now. The old rich men like Adelson and Perry can't spend enough money to buy them even a close race. Romney has been sent forth toting more baggage than Delta airlines carries in a year, paired with an amateur who has less regard for factuality than a whore has discretion among willing payers. This may indeed be the death of the republican party, provided the democrats are really paying attention. Surely they won't allow this unlikely gift to slip away. Now, I hope these republicans will all slip out of town quietly. Sleep well Tampa.

Romney is going to run this country like a business. He will lower unemployment by sending our unemployed oversea to fight and be killed in foreign countries. Lower unemployment at home!

The last four years of disappointment that we need to put behind us is the way the republicans have been acting.

You can't turn the clocks back and live in the past. The world has change a least three times since he was a child. The sixties, the end of the Cold War and 9-11.

"I wish President Obama had succeeded because I want America to succeed. But his promises gave way to disappointment and division," Romney said.

Who in America does not what America to succeed? Oh yea the Republicans. They are the ones who's top priority for the last almost four year is to oust our President. They have stonewalled every attempt to get this country going again. And who has been dividing this country? The republicans! They said over and over again they won't compromise on anything even though they are the root of our troubles.

What will Pres. Obama have to say about all his accomplishments at the DNC? when he is re nominated for President for a Second Term.

What are Americans to expect the next 4 years?--We're still waiting.

Mygirl - I'm sorry we always have this "disconnect" as I truly believe you have a natural love for this country.

First: I agree with you that things are truly bad right now. Even the president has said time and time again that this is a tough time and people are hurting, HOWEVER, Instead of just looking at the President, look at Congress as well. Look at those that have actively came out and said PUBLICLY they will not approve or even consider ANYTHING Obama proposes BUT you want to label Obama "the great divider". Yet you want to to pin the whole economy on the President when he has tried time and time again to get the economy back on track in spite of all the obstruction from the republicans in congress. He even went as far as angering his own party by offering deep cuts to programs they love the most in order to get the deficit under control as he was thinking of the country over party. Nevermind the fact that we have had 29 straight months of "Private sector" jobs growth (like 4.2 million i believe and yes I know about the 40 straight months of unemployment over 8%) and the highest Dow level on wall street in history THANKS to the regulations currently in place to prevent the corruption and severely penalize those that make "risky" investments.

Now about this "recession" thing. If we were in a recession, there would be no growth in the private or public sector, Wall street would continue to be flat or struggling and the GDP would be flat or in the negative and unemployment would still be rising. The fact that none of that is true proves otherwise and I haven't seen any recession including the one under Clinton that bounced back in less that 3 years. Prove me wrong PLEASE!

As far as welfare is concerned. Some are on welfare because the choose to(and I personally don't appreciate it for one minute), some because they have no choice in order to survive while they look for a job(these are the ones that don't want to be and personally they deserve all the help they can get UNTIL they get on their feet), and some are just because they want a free hand out(these are the ones that need to be weeded out the system).

Finally, To agree that the President does not "dictate" or "implement" policy and law simply on his own is to agree that he is not FULLY responsible for the state of the country right now. Are you willing to concede this fact or stick by your guns and say that this is all solely his fault?

Yes, sleep well, secure in the knowledge that Obama will take care of you. He has shown his care and concern and while many of you are currently sleeping in tents, Obama still cares enough to give free birth control to needy women like Sandra Fluke, and we all know that free birth control is an extremely important thing to have while your head is resting peacefully in your tent.

Obama has no baggage, he emerged fully formed, like Athena from the forehead of Zeus. His background is almost mythological, especially as he recounts his 'memoirs' written when he was a mere lad. No, Obama is our most interesting 'creation,' our mythological and supernatural president, a man of television late nights and home brewed beer and drone attacks and kill lists, a man who does indeed roam free and unencumbered by rule of law, the Constitution and the Congress.

We should count our blessing that we have a leader who is so capable that one third of the country is on welfare. He is most generous with the welfare, perhaps because he understands our needs and realizes that 'radically transforming' America into his vision of the future will require lots of welfare be made availble to tide people over until his task of completely bankrupting the nation is completed. Then we will rejoice in the knowledge that Sandra Fluke has free birth control because extra mouths will be difficult to feed in the New America.

Common Sense: You posted after I did so now I will give you my heartfelt response. I do indeed place responsibility on Obama for the state of affairs we currently are experiencing. In his overwhelming urge to tackle our financial crisis he reached across the aisles and pushed for a national healthcare, one that will greatly enrich big pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies and for-profit hospital consortiums while depleting Medicare to the tune of almost a trillion dollars, in order to bolster a program that will control one sixth of the economic via government appointed bureaucrats.

Unlike those who worship at his fount, I have read his books, and realize who he admires and what he admires. Those people are not exactly liberal, they are beyond liberal, coasting into the realm of Marxist ideologies. Rubio said it best this evening, Obama is looking to create the kind of America that most people had hoped to escape from when leaving their countries of origin.

You don't believe in American exceptionalism, I do. We are the only country in history that never had a totalitarian regime like a monarchy ruling us. We are the first country to try the 'of the people, for the people and by the people concept' as a means of governing. Some how that got lost in the shuffle and it is time to regain that belief and to act on it. Government is not the all-knowing, all-caring, Creator. Statism is not religion, the state is not God and all benefits do not come from the all-powerful government. When Obama pulled the page from Warren's little playbook he said what is anathema to me, 'you didn't build that.' I understand that people want that to mean that it essentially took a village to get that business going, but no one seems to remember that when he made that statement he was looking to get taxes increased to justify an even larger and more powerful government, a bigger bureacracy that the peons should joyfully and eternally pay into.

It's quite pathetic to see die-hard Democrats (not Obama supporters, but Democrats that will support ANY loser in office with the title) attempt to make the last 4 years successful.

Common,

As Mike said earlier...which is it?? Liberals like to talk out of both sides of their mouth. Did it ever occur to you that when you talk of Obama's "Job Plan", it was just another bailout? It was just more spending?? Of course Republicans don't want to spend more money (god knows...Obama has spent enough in the scant 3 1/2 years he has been in office), so while you like to use words to describe Republicans as obstructionists, I use words like vigilant and stalwart...big difference...

Here's RoMONEY's take on Gun Control; he said, "We need a president who will enforce "current" laws not create new ones that only serve to "burden" lawful gun owners." "We need a president who will stand up for hunters and sportsmen and those who seek to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not."

These are the words of your Repub's presidential "wannabe". Gee, Nit-Wit Mitt, last time I looked, I was still in possession of my firearms. What a "Bonehead"!

So Rich Mitt RoMONEY doesn't want "new" laws that will only burden gun owners? I wonder what the families who've lost loved ones at the Colorado shooting and others across the U.S. think about not creating tighter gun control measures. Romney's only experience is his Bain Capital taking over smaller businesses and putting people out of work.

I don't know about you people, but... I CANNOT RESPECT A "MAN" WHO SMACKS HIS LIPS AT THE END OF EVERY PHRASE HE UTTERS... I don't respect him enough to vote him in for the Orifice of President. Rodney's handlers need to tell him to quit smacking his lipps while talking.

Jmagnum,

Romney posts an 80% success rate with turning companies around. Exactly what is the success rate with Obama? Oh, that's right...he isn't successful. As for gun control laws, none of the new proposed laws would have stopped the slaughter in Colorado. You want to regulate people into extinction.

My Girl - First off let me address that I take great exception that you don't think I believe in American Exceptionalism. I supported and defended this great country of ours for 20 years. I had not problem obeying the orders of those appointed over me INCLUDING several "Commanders in Chief" that ordered us into war without themselves serving our country but rather ducking and (draft) dodging to keep from serving and I'm mean ALL of them.

I believe you grow a country from the bottom up and NOT top down. You see you must have a foundation to build upon before you can do anything else. Then make sure your center or "middle" is strong enough to support the weight of the top. If it is not, then it crumbles or comes crashing down. Kind of like our economy did under the Former president. Yet I find it very disturbing that no one on the right or right center would conclude that his policies put us in this position in the first place BUT want to blame the current President, but i digress. I'll let you fill in the rest as I "assume" it is self explanatory.

I do not profess nor believe that government is all knowing and therefore should run our lives but rather how the founding fathers saw government as a way to support the states and create the laws that are "designed" to keep the people safe and from harm. I do also believe that government should indeed step in when there is a situation that can not be controlled or contained by state governments. Having said that, let me interject some points here.

If you were to (and I mean this in the most respectful way) remove the blinders you currently have on, you would be able to see that the President genuinely does care, in my opinion about this country. EVERY PIECE of legislation he has introduced had a plan to pay for it so that it was not included in the debt including the AHCA(aka Obamacare). You also get no complaints from me regarding this issue as this is the main reason my daughter still has insurance as she is a full time student while working a part-time job. Without this bill, my daughter would be at the mercy of some money hungry insurance company that preys on our college students. And the money they claim he "stole" from medicare is actually being used to shore up medicare for another 8 years by preventing the "fraudulent" claims that have ravage the program for the past 8-9 years. TRUE this will not solve the medicare issue but to be honest and fair what other ideas are out there besides making it a voucher program for folks like me when I get to the ripe young age of 55? That means all the money I've paid into the program is gone and I get a check to pay for insurance that will not even cover 15% of the cost. To also believe that the ones trying to replace Obama are not for big government is also a fallacy. The only difference is they want bigger government geared toward military and tax cuts for the wealthy instead of who they should really go to and that's the REAL job creators(I.E. those that actually hire people). It is also my understanding given the rhetoric and bills introduced and voted on that they want to do away with some women's rights. I pray this is not true.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a big fan of Obama as I feel he could have done more but I honestly can't see myself right now, voting for someone that has made his millions off the backs of those he "promised" to protect with his company, only to load them with debt and close down the business and make off with not only their pensions but livelihoods has well. It's still early and he has an opportunity to change my mind but time is running out.

Get ready to go back to work people the FREE fride is OVER!!!!

Wow, there apparently were a lot of you on this thread who didn't listen to the speech. Some of you may, but have not taken it as it was presented, instead inserting whatever ax you may have to grind instead of listening to what Mitt actually said.

1. This country used to be better and stronger, there is nothing wrong with regaining those.

2. No where did Mitt talk about going to war with anyone.

3. There is also nothing wrong with American exceptionalism or religion. These are also 2 traits that were primary in developing this country. I notice none of you took ORubio to task when he talked about it. He is a prime example of what makes America great. Not seeing where his family came to America to live off our entitlement system.

4. In no way should Mitt give specifics on how he is going to create jobs, etc. Obama made a HUGE mistake in 2008, making promises that were all pipe dreams, basically because he didn't understand what it would take to achieve his goals. Mitt needs to wait until he knows the makeup of Congress, then custom tailor his plans based on the make up of the parties. Face it, that alone can mean a big difference in how something will be presented. (Like Obamacare)

5. Romney is right, jobs and the economy are NUMBER 1 on the list of things to fix.

6. No one intelligent give a d**n about Mitt's tax returns. Stop living in envy of the man. There are famous Democrats with far more money than Mitt, yet you don't ask for 10 years of their returns...(Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, for example) Fact is, the IRS is not going to let a rich person slip by for 10 years not paying taxes.

7. From the beginning, it was obvious Obama had little in common with the average American. That problem has been a primary reason Obama's policy and actions have so divided the country. It is not the President's responsibility to divide or undermine America. He should be putting America and it's citizens 1st. We need someone who will reunite our country, not drive the wedge between us deeper.

Overall, no matter what you think, we need someone else than Obama. He played millions of Americans with his words and the color of his skin. In 2008, I know many who voted for Obama to prove they weren't racist. That is a poor reason to elect anyone in any office. The color of one's skin does not make policy or support your country. The intellect and attitude of the person are the characteristics you should be looking at when choosing a candidate. So are you going to vote in 2012 to prove you are not stupid? The great experiment was an abject failure. We need a more qualified candidate, period.

Romney/Ryan 2012, for the good of America.

5. Romney is right, jobs and the economy are NUMBER 1 on the list of things to fix.

It amazes me that republicans complain about the unemployment rate, when Obama has brought forward a number of solutions, and the only reason they we haven't been implemented is because of rejection by the republicans in the house! If anyone should be complaining, it would be the president! The republicans have supported infrastructure improvements in the past - especially during a recession. However, even though investment in our transportation system would create new jobs, jump start the economy, increase productivity, all while addressing some critical transportation issues, the republicans have rejected these - ONLY TO INTENTIONALLY STALL THE ECONOMY in hopes of unseating the president.

republicans have always supported them in the past,

bill - the Democrats didn't support many of his "solutions" either. Mainly because they either didn't create jobs, or was more payoff to the Unions, who by the way, do not make jobs either.

I am very happy for Mitt Romney. I know he wanted this very badly. So badly in fact, he was willing to say or do anything to get the nomination and a chance to be President of the United States.

He completely re-invented himself in order to court the new, far right, GOP. Reversing himself on many things including health care, abortion rights, gays and other progressive ideas he espoused as Governor of Massachusetts.

Or, is this the real Mitt Romney? Was that guy who ran for Governor of Massachusetts as a progressive a fraud? That paints a rather disturbing picture doesn't it?

Well, I'm happy for him. I'm sorry he will be disappointed in November. But, at least he had his shot.

Kind of like McCain in 2008.

Obama/Biden 2012

Willowbrook - I disagree. The reason the President's job bills didn't pass is because Republicans blocked them.

Romney's "lower sea levels" comment isn't about global warming. Its about Obama's alleged messianic complex where by he perhaps thinks he can lower the sea levels by willing it to happen.

I can't say if Obama really thinks that, but his follows sure seemed to.

Think back to the President's Nobel Prize awarded for the hope of things he was "going to do".

When in your life have you heard of such a thing.

So Romney is tapping into the disillusionment of people who thought Obama was more than just a man. The political theatre class will vote for their parties or wings. But Obama raised hope in many that Politics was more than it really is. So he has a tougher time keeping those people because they realize they were wrong - and maybe even feel a little foolish at having been so naive. Romney wants to draw those people to his camp, or at least remind them of their disappointment so they stay home election day.

We have to get past the failure of this president and move on to a better economy and more jobs.

It was blatantly obvious who is poised to lead this country for the next 8 years...The GOP looked strong, united, and ready to take our country back from the brink of Obama's epic failures!

...and what about Eastwood? He was great! Rubio was awesome as well...hope you liberals get used to the new faces!

Romney/Ryan 2012!

Skip -

So when Obama decided he does support gay marriage after all, what was that? Does that mean he was a fraud 4 years ago?

Upset -

Willowbrook - I disagree. The reason the President's job bills didn't pass is because Republicans blocked them.

Did you actually read or even glance over any of his proposed "job bills"?

EXACTLY!!!! If you think that destroying the environment is the "cool" thing to do, YOU ARE DESTROYING THE FUTURE OF YOUR CHILDREN. DRILLING FOR OIL IS NOT THE SOLUTION...

And how did you get to work today (assuming you do work)? I'll bet you drove a gas guzzling SUV. If you want to stop the oil drilling, quit driving PERIOD! Obama has not helped the environment one bit. His environmental policy is to let oil prices get so high that the economy crashes and then nobody drives to work because they don't have jobs.

Until the CONSUMER forces auto makers to build envrionmentally friendly cars, it will not happen, so don't wait for a president to get us there.

Romney/Ryan- 4 more wars

@nash Nari -- "I will not go any further to convince you that Obama has achieved a lot (domestic policies, health care, financial regulation, environmental regulations, foreign and defense polices) in these 3 1/2 years. Plus although many (23+ millions) are unemployed or underemployed, if not for his policies and actions, you would be seeing 40 million unemployed and 15% unemployment."

You are 100% correct on each of those points accept for the unemployment one and the sad thing is that you state all of those things he did as if they were positive change. It may appear that way on the surface but if you would dig a little deeper into the life of Mr. Barrak Obama Jr. the (man, not president) you would very cleary see and understand his hidden agenda and how exactly each of those things play into it perfectly. Yes, he is certainly dispersing American wealth but amonst our nation, he is dispersing it around the world thus decreasing the value of America and while he is doing this he is spending literaly TRILLIONS of dollars that we CANNOT PAY BACK. He alone has spent 5 times more money in the past four years than all other presidents combined (up to Clinton). All that debt has caused America to default on their loans for the first time in history and dropped our credit rating. All that debt is giving other countries such as Communist China claim to American soil. And when these countries come for what is rightfully theirs when we are unable to pay it back we will be defenseless because Obama has already reduced our nuke missile from 5000 to 1500 and it is in his four year plan to further reduce it to 300 and eventually ZERO. AND it is his wish to abolish the Second Amendment to the American Bill of Rights: he wants to steal away America's guns from the public so we are unable to defend ourselves when we have no Military because he has already cut $716 billion from its budget and hs it in his four year plan to cut another $500 billion. His healthcare plan has done NOTHING POSITIVE; it has ONLY created a welfare state. 46% of Americans are currently on welfare making them slaves to the government and it is only expanding ever more rapidly. For the first time in American history we are in serious jeapardy of half the country being ruled by Socialist welfare. Rather than creating jobs in America and reducing the cost of fuel which is the best way to give the middle class a break, Obama has haulted American oil production on the Keystone Pipeline and sent a million jobs that should belong in the heartland of America to Brazil along with $500 billion dollars.

Keep voting for Mitt Romney and he would throw you a rope when the sea level raise enough to swallow your coastal town.

@nash Nari -- "I will not go any further to convince you that Obama has achieved a lot (domestic policies, health care, financial regulation, environmental regulations, foreign and defense polices) in these 3 1/2 years. Plus although many (23+ millions) are unemployed or underemployed, if not for his policies and actions, you would be seeing 40 million unemployed and 15% unemployment."

You are 100% correct on each of those points accept for the unemployment one and the sad thing is that you state all of those things he did as if they were positive change. It may appear that way on the surface but if you would dig a little deeper into the life of Mr. Barak Obama Jr. the (man, not president) you would very clearly see and understand his hidden agenda and how exactly each of those things play into it perfectly. Yes, he is certainly dispersing American wealth but not amongst our nation, he is dispersing it around the world thus decreasing the value of America and while he is doing this he is spending literally TRILLIONS of dollars that we CANNOT PAY BACK. He alone has spent 5 times more money in the past four years than all other presidents combined (up to Clinton). All that debt has caused America to default on their loans for the first time in history and dropped our credit rating. All that debt is giving other countries such as Communist China claim to American soil. And when these countries come for what is rightfully theirs when we are unable to pay it back we will be defenseless because Obama has already reduced our nuke missile from 5000 to 1500 and it is in his four year plan to further reduce it to 300 and eventually ZERO. AND it is his wish to abolish the Second Amendment to the American Bill of Rights: he wants to steal away America's guns from the public so we are unable to defend ourselves when we have no Military because he has already cut $716 billion from its budget and has it in his four year plan to cut another $500 billion. His healthcare plan has done NOTHING POSITIVE; it has ONLY created a welfare state. 46% of Americans are currently on welfare making them slaves to the government and it is only expanding ever more rapidly. For the first time in American history we are in serious jeopardy of half the country being ruled by Socialist welfare. Rather than creating jobs in America and reducing the cost of fuel which is the best way to give the middle class a break, Obama has halted American oil production on the Keystone Pipeline and sent a million jobs that should belong in the heartland of America to Brazil along with $500 billion dollars.

Keep voting for Mitt Romney and he would throw you a rope when the sea level raise enough to swallow your coastal town.

Sir, it seems to me that you are only concerned about yourself and the environment. Yourself regarding the welfare check that Obama hands you every week; if he handed one of those to me every month for sitting on my ass I would want to blow him too (actually I wouldn't but I can see how you would and do). Regarding the environment, that will be the last thing ANYONE will be concerned with by 2014 if Obama is re-elected; we will all have much more serious problems when we go back to the dark ages of lawlessness and anarchy, Americans killing Americans. I am a huge supporter of preserving the environment; I donate to "Ducks Unlimited", "Field and Stream", "Pheasants Forever" all of whom are VERY active national organizations who work extremely hard for environmental protection. I volunteer my free time to the County Parks System where I live working to restore native prairie land and exterminate invasive species such as wild parsnips, buckthorn, Siberian elm, etc. 99% of the time I am not at work or sleeping I am outdoors in the wilderness hunting, hiking, camping, canoeing, 4-whelling, fishing, and anything else that has to do with the great outdoors; I guarantee you here and now that you will never find another person who enjoys the outdoors MORE than I do. You sir, are only concerned about a rising see level which means you more than likely live in one of three states: Florida, New York, or California. GET AWAY FROM THE OCEAN IF YOU'RE SCARED OF IT!! Ca. is sliding into the Pacific anyway so there's no point in trying to save that one. If you are so concerned about the environment why don't you get off your fat lazy jobless welfare-collecting ass and do something about it like me and everyone else who actually cares?!?! You're just hiding behind that and using as a shield trying to get Obama back in office so you won't have to get a job. You're pathetic, a loser, a cheat, and a thief, absolutely pathetic!

@ upset - the bills didn't pass because they weren't jobs bills. Just like I said before. And while we're at it, lets talk about all the money Obama spent for jobs NOT in America! And you wonder why Congress said no......

Nice to see how many people on this thread still support Obama. Masochism comes to mind or else the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Obama's 'on-the-job-training" should have happened elsewhere, or else he should have acquired more education prior to taking on the job. The supporters point out their problems with Romney, never ever admitting that they never, ever required the same level of scrutiny or experience from Obama.

Celebrity is great in movie stars and atheletes, they just show up, they don't have responsibility for the lives of others. They rise and fall, they are popular until the next, newer model comes along and to regard the president in that same celebrity/popularity illusion is deadly dangerous. A person's looks are more important that their morals, character, experience and integrity? If Romney is your nightmare, is Obama your w*tdream?

Paul
Ryan’s speech in 3 words

By Sally Kohn

Published
August 30, 2012

FoxNews.com

1. Dazzling

At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul
Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him
view him favorably.

So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself
and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the
speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan
talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end
of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and
enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been
desperately lacking in this campaign.

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying
much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect
Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of
guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play
soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have
done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney
has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized
himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.

2. Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of
attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world
record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped
into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran
the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely
created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that
media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that
flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain
arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United
States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was
actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down
of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under
President George W. Bush. Ryan
actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has
criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to
prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to
give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what
the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking
$716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in
Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients
out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget
plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record
in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get
away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to
care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should
be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but
sadly, there were many.

3. Distracting

And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.

Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all
abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch
with 75% of American voters.

Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social
Security to Wall Street.

Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending
and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.

Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate
programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut
taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase
—the deficit.

These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to
say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and
explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan
airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.

At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used
to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem,
or you can be part of the solution."

Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability
problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic
facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a
much larger problem for himself and his running mate.

Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributor and writer. You can
find her online at or
on Twitter at

Willowbrook,

His jobs bill passed the senate. And yes they would create jobs - unlike President Bush's $300 checks he gave away for nothing.

What exactly is it you are referring to that "went overseas"?

Ebeneser Howard, you are seriously uninformed. I didn't read through all that babble, but every line I read was outrageous and/or disturbing. Obama has made no attempt whatsoever to do away with the 2nd amendment or take anyone's guns. That is complete nonsense.

As for defense, we spend more on defense that the entire rest of the world combined, so I doubt anyone is going to be coming over to take over our land any time soon.

And if you're more worried about lawlessness and anarchy than the environment - a) has there been lawlessness in the first four years? b) even if there was, it won't matter if you're underwater.

Get a grip!

If the Truth in Advertising laws applied to political campaigns, this would be Mr. Romney's new slogan:

"Mitt Romney: A wealth of principal; a dearth of principle."

workingpoor-2370498

Maybe you need to actually do some RESEARCH on Bain - see what companies are now successful because of them and the companies that they weren't able to save - research them and see what their problems were and how bad they really were then maybe you'll understand. Unfortunately, I don't think you want to understand - you don't care. You just want to bash this man - no matter what the truth is. By the way - guess what Warren Buffett and his companies do - bingo - same thing as Bain. Buy up companies - fix them or get rid of them or if they are in too bad of shape, they don't even buy them (waste of money) - they just let them fail. And there are lots of businessmen that do this in this country - read up on it and do some research - learn something.

Common Sense 23

I bet you voted for Obama in 2008 - you didn't seem to have a problem with him not being specific with how he was going to do all the things he said he was going to do. Why the double standard now with Romney?

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After today, I am more impressed with Mitt Romney and what he can do for this country than ever before.

Romney/Ryan 2012!!

Why? He didn't really SAY anything. Like HOW he intends to 'save us'. The only details I've seen so far is the Republican platform, and Ryan's budget (which Romney says he likes). That budget would be so disastrous it's not even funny.

Everything else I've seen is nothing more than social issues, none of which I agree with?

But I'm interested in what you saw, because I surely missed it. Tell me HOW.

Romney made a big mistake choosing Ryan. He should have picked Honey Bo Bo, her ratings were higher than the RNC. And besides that she is alot smarter than S. Palen.

Republicans are all bigoted, racists,homophobic, zenophobic, anti woman, anti-poor and liars. Give the rich a 40% cut in taxes to cut the deficit makes no sense, but then neither do republicans. Oh, but then cut all the programs to help the middle class, poor, college students, elderly those in need.

The GOP TeaReTards are so desperate they accept a Draft Dodger as their Nomination for their party, this is so sad to see them pick a Coward to run for President of the United States of America !!!

The GOP is going down the Toilet for the TeaWackos !!!!!!!!!!!!

Debby-2169615,

Obama was FAR more specific about how he intended to accomplish his goals than Romney has been.

No way I would be able to sit through Romney's speech. My bullcrap detector would've shattered in seconds. ROMNEY 2012! Because together, we can destroy America and restore the Aryan nation. Wait a second...

Debby - To answer your question, I did vote for Obama in 08 but I wasn't for him in the beginning. I have always like McCain as he always portrayed himself as a "Maverick" and didn't have a problem going against the party for the good of the country. That all changed once Palin was picked and with all due respect, she opened her mouth. Then he fell into the "establishment" mentality and my respect for him was lost. If he would have kept his "edge" and did things "his" way, I do believe McCain would have been President in 08 instead of Obama.

And Obama WAS far more specific during the debates than McCain was with respect to policy and the direction he wanted to take the country.

How is it possible for a man to speak as long as Romney had and say nothing.

The man has money but no substance. No answers. He just rambles on and the GOP eats is up.

Did anyone see those older people in the audience? They looked very disappointed and bored out of their minds. One women with glasses on even closed her eyes for a second, realized the camera was on her - they quickly cut to another camera.

Where are your tax returns Romney? What are you hiding? Did you take the 2009 tax evasion amnesty?

didn't stop you from voting for obama on a hopes and dreams message. Hope all your dreams come true when you wake up for breakfast in your parents house.

Joy-- how many jobs do think would open up if we drilled for oil, dug for coal or used the wind for turbines?

That is what man was talking about.If we have our own oil,gas would be cheaper.The keystone pipe line even more jobs.Can you really think about things like that or is to hard for you? Ray-

What's worse is that many people who heard his speech THINK HE SAID SOMETHING! I am truly scared for the future of this country because people seem to have less and less ability to think critically. Case in point: President Obama gave a speech about how government infrastructure provided a foundation upon which people could build their success. His statement "you didn't build it" was taken out of context, played ad nauseum, and deliberately twisted into a meaning the President didn't intend. This has been explained repeatedly and the FULL speech has been played, but the GOP based their entire theme on "We built it" as if their twisted bastardization of what the President said was what he said. Anyone who is outraged by the out-of-context phrase is missing grey matter -- pure and simple.

Not one mention of men and women who are serving in the military and those folks who have sacrificed for us in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Listening to the speech in total, Mitt Romney, before you dream of becoming the next President, you should fire your Campaign Manager, Speech Writer, and perhaps you too.

This has not been about bad policies or any of that b*llsh!t; it has been about how whitey has not gotten over the fact that a black dude is president....

Are you serious? Without "whitey" voting for him, he would have never been elected in the first place. I get so sick of people using race as an excuse. Your post is one of the most racist things I've read in a long time! So sad to see people sit around and blame race for their problems. Life is what you make it.

The government is only as good as its people. Don't blame government, you have to look at yourself, if you are Tea Potty, then...you know the answer.

I agree. Their entire campaign is based on lies and misrepresentation. Romney added nothing tonight. We still do not know what or how he is going to improve anything. I feel this country will go further down hill. I believe if we give this president another four years things will improve. The majority of people that are screaming for Romney surprisingly have had a very good life during Obama. They still have jobs, have retired early because they wanted to, have gone on vacations, bought new cars, remodeled their homes and lived the american dream. But it is all under a democrat OH MY. The ones that lost their jobs because their company closed or their jobs were sent overseas and yes. all the CEOs walked away with billions, lost their homes while the banks made millions, paying more for gas while the oil companies make billions and lost medical insurance and no one wants to help them. These people aren't screaming for Romney because they are scared @!$%#less of this liar. They know that he has nothing to offer them. The only jobs Romeny will create are minimun wage jobs selling Chinese goods. And Mr Romney working 2 jobs at $9.00 doesn't make up for the one job you had at $18.00 an hour. It is still a $9.00 an hour job. Do your math moron. I was hoping for some hope from this convention but all I received was more bull, hatred and phony people trying to be sincere. I even lost respect for Clint Eastwood who by the way looked drunk as did some other speakers during this past week. God help us all if this is what we have to look forward to in the next four years.

Nash I agree with you post %100 percent. And then the mention of Putin and Iran. Like putting our Service Members in harms way would be a thing of ease.

All he had to say about our troops was. HE would make us the worlds strongest Military? WTF we already are MITTENS. Mitt is a draft dodger. Who wants to be the LEADER of our Military and run it like a Business? Don't forget folks the Presidents 1st. responsibility is Commander and Chief

Nash=== Liar! You were so busy sitting on the edge of your seat sipping your koolaid trying to catch something the Gov. said wrong that you were not even listening to the speech just like so many of the other parrot talk liberals posting here. Some of the Left here are voicing their opinions as they see it but you are just slinging crap about something you didn't hear. Go find your mother and have her change your diaper, you are stinking up the room.

Has anyone noticed that, when Mr. Romney speaks, he really doesn't say much of anything?

FACT....Paul Ryan lied so many times last night, even Fox news said he lied.

Ryan and Romney have a plan....they can change it....from a fact to a lie. Doen't matter that they lie about everything, all that matters is winning.

Obama 2012

Just like strnz in above post repubs caught lying by nation. FOX NEWS CALL RYAN A LIAR!

From Huffington post 8-30-12

According to Fox News columnist Sally Kohn, vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan's speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday "was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech."

"On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold," Kohn wrote.

In a surprising move, Fox News joined CNN, The Huffington Post, the Washington Post's Wonkblog, and ThinkProgress in publishing a fact-check of the Republican vice presidential nominee's speech, finding that the speech was full of lies and misleading assertions.

Kohn, who describes herself as a "progressive voice on Fox News," wrote in her Thursday column that though Ryan came off as likable during his speech, his misrepresentations and omissions "caused a much larger problem for himself and his running mate."

In contrast, several Fox News commentators praised Ryan's speech on air after the event, without mentioning his misleading claims, according to Media Matters.

In her column, Kohn called out four lies in Ryan's speech. She critcized Ryan for blaming President Obama for the shutdown of a General Motors plant in Janesville, Wis., that actually was closed during the Bush administration. She also knocked Ryan for pinning the blame for S&P's downgrade of U.S. debt on Obama, when Republicans in Congress helped precipitate the downgrade by threatening to refuse to raise the debt ceiling.

"The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth," Kohn wrote.

Romney/Ryan's Plan takes more from the poor to give to the wealthy people and Corporate Elite. (Is that what they think Jesus did during his short life on Earth? And they call themselves Christians?!?) Republicans DISTORT, LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL as evidenced at this RNC. Ryan voted against the Stimulus Bill, but then flip-flopped 180 degrees to ask for it. Hypocrisy to say the least !!

BMette:

Has anyone noticed that, when Mr. Romney speaks, he really doesn't say much of anything?

You do NOT listen - that will help...

ROMNEY THE LIAR< NEWT CALLS ROMNEY A LIAR< CONSERVATIVES CALL ROMNEY A LIAR.

From usnews.com Jan 2012

Mitt Romney's Lies

From '100,000 new jobs' to Obama's jobs record to his first name, Mitt Romney has a truth problem

By Robert Schlesinger

January 12, 2012 RSS Feed Print

As his briefly front-running campaign sunk in the polls under relentless punishment from Mitt Romney's "super PAC" allies in the days before the Iowa caucuses, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich caused a brief stir by matter-of-factly telling a TV interviewer that Romney is a "liar."

"Why are you saying he's a liar?" his apparently shocked interlocutor pressed. The notion that Mitt Romney routinely makes statements lacking a factual basis should not come as a surprise to anyone who has followed the campaign. On the left, Paul Krugman has marveled that no other candidate has ever "lied so freely, with so little compunction." On the right, The American Conservative's Daniel Larison wondered about why he lies, concluding that the former Massachusetts governor is "so contemptuous of the people he tells lies to that he never thinks he will be found out."

An Independent Thinker:

Romney/Ryan's Plan takes more from the poor to give to the wealthy people and Corporate Elite.

Please explain how they would do that.

Homer....have a big bowl of current events tonight and sleep on it.

Below from www.patheos.com

Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
August 29, 2012 By Fred Clark 63 Comments

I’ve written about or linked to a great deal here “chronicling Mitt’s mendacity” — to borrow Steven Benen’s phrase.

Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter.

Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration.

This is documented. Proven. Validated, verified, demonstrated, catalogued and quantified. Mitt Romney lies.

Here are 30 — 30! — of Benen’s weekly “chronicling” posts. These are all backed up and sourced. These are not assertions, interpretations or allegations. These are facts, actual instances.

Over the past 30 weeks, Mitt Romney has told lie after lie after lie: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, XXX.

• 'Honey Boo Boo' ratings top Republican National Convention

By Michael O'Connell, The Hollywood Reporter

"Here Comes Honey Boo Boo," TLC's controversial reality show about a self-proclaimed "redneck" family and their "Toddlers and Tiaras" daughter, hit another ratings high on Wednesday night.

That's all you need to know about the Romney/Ryan Campaign!

Ok, you want me to say Romney is a "Rat"?

All the money coming from the elite shows how desperate they are to gain control of the majority and rule as they so wish without any regards to the Constituents falling under the 2% wealthy. What a terrible waste of money that they could have used to CREATE NEW JOBS, or PAY DOWN THE DEFICIT ( which they plan to let the middle class, poor, and elderly pay off their share of the deficit).

Rome fell because of the greedy elite. There's an old quote, "What goes around, comes back around." Europe is experiencing this as well with their suffocation, suppression, and wasting of money on the the elite life style before even considering the economy's needs. And to the GOP, an old quote says: "There are none so blind as those, who won't see. "

While Romney says he wanted Obama to succeed, Rush Limbaugh said before the new president was inaugurated in January, 2009, "I hope Obama fails." Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said on behalf of the president's legislative partners: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

Paul Ryan saw to it: rallying opposition to a stimulus that was designed to jumpstart the economy, opposing health-care reforms that mirrored those Romney implemented as the governor of Massachusetts, and refusing even the most minimal compromises as the nation's credit-rating was threatened during a absurd fight over whether to raise borrowing limits that Democratic and Republican presidents had raised in the past.
Even in the rare instances where Obama put the needs of the nation, and the moment, above politics, other members of "the loyal opposition" merely opposed. One of them even argued against providing the support that was needed to preserve the American auto industry, writing an article that declared: "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt."

Who was that guy?

Oh, right, Mitt Romney.

Nuch was made of the web of deception that Paul Ryan wove with his acceptance speech on Wednesday night,. But Romney actually tried to one-up his running-mate.

The man who stood before the convention of his party and declared that he wanted Barack Obama to succeed campaigned against Obama's election in 2008 -- attacking the Democratic nominee and his supporters for proposing "timid, liberal empty gestures."

Throughout Obama's first-term, Romney was a steady critic -- not just of auto bailouts but of virtually all of the policies of the new administration. He never demanded, as Wendell Willkie did after the 1940 elections, that Republicans recognize the necessity of working with a Democratic president. Like Ryan, Romney abandoned the traditional "one nation" Republicanism of Dwight Eisenhower and a former Michigan governor named George Romney, which argued that Republicans could and should work with Democrats, especially in tough times.

On a night that was all about telling Mitt Romney's story, with reflections on his humane service with his church, on his not so humane service with Bain Capital and of his moderate Republican service as governor of Massachusetts (well, except for the Romneycare part), Romney and his enthusiasts had plenty to say about Obama's failings. Even in speeches that were ostensibly about Romney's business acumen, there were sharp, at times unrelenting "they just don't get it" attacks on the president.

Then, Romney went for the jugular with lines like: "President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet. My promise is to help you and your family."

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme, scornful of compromise, unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition, When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.

The party that Mitt Romney now leads moved so far that it was, indeed, "nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges."

From www.salon.com

Wednesday, Aug 29, 2012 09:35 AM CST

Romney’s brazen welfare lie

His claims about Obama removing the work requirement have been thoroughly discredited, so how can he keep this up?

By Robert Reich, ROBERTREICH.org

Topics: Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Republican Party, RobertReich.org, Rush Limbaugh

Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney addresses supporters during a campaign stop in Charlotte, N.C., Wednesday, April 18, 2012. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong) (Credit: AP)

This originally appeared on Robert Reich's blog.

“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” says Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster.

A half dozen fact-checking organizations and websites have refuted Romney’s claims that Obama removed the work requirement from the welfare law and will cut Medicare benefits by $216 billion.

Last Sunday’s New York Times even reported on its front page that Romney has been “falsely charging” President Obama with removing the work requirement. Those are strong words from the venerable Times. Yet Romney is still making the false charge. Ads containing it continue to be aired.

Presumably the Romney campaign continues its false claims because they’re effective. But this raises a more basic question: How can they remain effective when they’ve been so overwhelmingly discredited by the media?

The answer is the Republican Party has developed three means of bypassing the mainstream media and its fact-checkers.

The first is by repeating big lies so often in TV spots – financed by a mountain of campaign money – that the public can no longer recall (if it ever knew) that the mainstream media and its fact-checkers have found them to be lies.

The second is by discrediting the mainstream media – asserting it’s run by “liberal elites” that can’t be trusted to tell the truth. “I am tired of the elite media protecting Barack Obama by attacking Republicans,” Newt Gingrich charged at a Republican debate last January, in what’s become a standard GOP attack line.

The third is by using its own misinformation outlets – led by Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and his yell-radio imitators, book publisher Regnery, and the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, along with a right-wing blogosphere – to spread the lies, or at least spread doubt about what’s true.

Together, these three mechanisms are creating a parallel Republican universe of Orwellian dimension – where anything can be asserted, where pollsters and political advisers are free to create whatever concoction of lies will help elect their candidate, and where “fact-checkers” are as irrelevant and intrusive as is the truth.

Democracy cannot thrive in such a place. To the contrary, history teaches that this is where demagogues take root.

The Romney campaign has decided it won’t be dictated by fact-checkers. But a society without trusted arbiters of what is true and what is false is vulnerable to every lie imaginable.

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Obama campaign spokesperson Stepanie Cutter, appearing on MSNBC earlier this week, claimed that "over the past, you know, 27 months we've created 4.5 million private-sector jobs. That's more jobs than in the Bush recovery (or) in the Reagan recovery."

A Thursday Investor's Business Daily editorial plaintively asked: "Where are those allegedly unbiased fact-checkers when you need them?" As will be seen shortly, the answer is "AWOL."

First, to debunk Cutter's lie (source: Bureau of Labor Statistics):

For those who crave some numbers -- In its first 37 post-recession months, the economy under Reagan added more than 9.8 million nonfarm payroll (NFP) jobs, over 7 million more than the 2.7 million added under Obama. To replicate the Reagan-era performance, the economy under Obama would have needed to add over 14 million jobs since the recession's end; it has really added less than 20% of that. The Reagan-era private sector margin is over 5.7 million jobs.

And of course, there's an obvious point to be made about the unemployment rate, as IBD noted:

What's more, after 29 months of allegedly stellar job growth under Obama, the jobless rate is still 8.3%. By this point in the Reagan and Bush jobs recoveries, the unemployment rate was 7.2% and 4.9%, respectively.

If we were one of those fact-checking organizations, we'd give Stephanie Cutter the "Lying Liar from Liersburg" award.

A Google News search done this morning on "Stephanie Cutter Reagan" (past week, not in quotes, sorted by date with duplicates) returned six items (the final result listed pre-dates Cutter's lie). The results are from American Thinker, Real Clear Politics (2), National Review, Washington Examiner, and United Liberty.

The same search at the Associated Press's main site returned nothing.

AP's "Presidential Campaign Fact Check" appears to be limited to what the presidential and vice-presidential candidates say. The wire service is currently carrying its interview with President Obama, naturally headlined "AP INTERVIEW: OBAMA CALLS ROMNEY'S IDEAS 'EXTREME'," on its "Top Story" page. Zheesh.

As to "fact-checkers" like PolitiFact and others, nothing demonstrates that they have turned themselves into just another tool of leftist bias than the "fact" that they haven't called out Stephanie Cutter's lie for four days and counting while trying and failing to nitpick the Romney campaign over its true statement about women's job losses during the recession several months ago. PolitiFact falsely claimed it was "Mostly False."

Oh, by the way, as James Pethoukouis noted in his second crucifixion of Cutter's comment (his original post relating to Reagan is here), "both the Reagan and Bush recoveries were stronger than the current recovery under President Obama."

ROMNEY AND HIS LIES >>>>BUSTED!

Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity, Vol. XXX

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Mitt Romney gave a speech Beallsville, Ohio, this week, and presented an unfortunate attack against President Obama. "How can you go out there and tell people things that just aren't true?" he asked rhetorically. He added, "This is a time for truths."

In context, Romney was referring to Obama's claim that "we're adding jobs in the coal industry." In reality, the nation really is adding jobs in the coal industry -- Romney was looking for an example of the president saying something that "just isn't true," and he pointed to an Obama quote that happened to be accurate, though he told his audience the opposite.

It's hard not to appreciate the ironic circle -- the president said something true, Romney lied when he said the accurate claim is false, and then he complained about falsehoods in the campaign.

I don't know the Republican candidate personally, but from a distance, it appears there's a part of his brain that allows him to create some kind of deliberate blind-spot. It's actually a little scary to think of a leader -- a man who'd be given enormous power and influence, literally making life and death decisions on a regular basis -- who can convince himself that his falsehoods are true, and that others' truths are falsehoods.

But here we are. If this is, as Romney claims, a "time for truths," I can only hope the Republican candidate will take a few moments to consider the 30th installment of my weekly series, chronicling Mitt's mendacity. (This is the biggest list I've ever done.)

1. At an impromptu event in South Carolina yesterday, Romney said on Medicare policy, "Our plan [has] no change for current seniors and those 55 and older."

That's plainly false. Romney's plan eliminates all new benefits for seniors under the Affordable Care Act, which necessarily means higher prescription drug costs for seniors, and more expensive preventive care.

2. At the same event, Romney argued, "Under the president's plan, [Medicare] goes bankrupt... Under the plan I propose, it is solvent."

That's the exact opposite of reality. Obama's policy strengthens Medicare's finances, and under Romney's plan, the system would be closer to insolvency faster.

3. In Chillicothe, Ohio, Romney said that under Obama, "We've got lower economic growth."

Actually, we got higher economic growth.

4. In the same speech, Romney said that under Obama, "We've got higher unemployment."

Actually, we got lower unemployment.

5. He went on to say the annual budget deficit has hit the $1 trillion mark under Obama for the "first time the history of our country."

Not true. The first time in the history of our country that the deficit hit $1 trillion was George W. Bush's last year in office, when the annual shortfall was $1.3 trillion.

6. Romney added that Obama promised "he'd get the unemployment down to under 5.6 percent today if we pass that $1 trillion stimulus package."

That's actually two falsehoods wrapped as one. For one thing, the stimulus wasn't $1 trillion (Romney's off by over $200 billion, and that's real money). For another, that's not what Obama promised.

7. Romney added, "You see unlike President Obama, I won't raise taxes on small business."

Obama has repeatedly cut taxes on small businesses -- by some counts, 18 times -- and if given a second term, his tax plan would have no effect on 97% of small businesses.

8. In an interview with Fortune magazine, Romney said the president's stimulus measures "have not put Americans back to work."

Yes they have.

9. In the same interview, Romney said he would create jobs by "taking advantage of America's energy resources, particularly natural gas, as well as coal, oil, nuclear, solar, and wind."

Much of this is contradicted by Romney's own agenda. He opposes the wind production tax credit, no matter how many jobs it costs the nation, and has vowed to cut off investments in renewable energy programs (Romney has said wind and solar do not constitute "real energy.")

10. Romney went on to say, "A nation which is a highly productive nation as we are benefits by trade with others... The Obama administration has negotiated no new [trade] agreements."

Did Romney not hear about the trade agreements with Panama, Colombia, and South Korea?

11. Romney added, "We have to cut the deficit and get America on track to a balanced budget in order to convince investors that America is a good place to invest long term.... The president has done virtually nothing other than to propose a series of tax increases."

Actually, Obama proposed a massive, $4 trillion "grand bargain," most of which was made up of spending cuts. Congressional Republicans turned it down anyway.

12. Romney also said, "We're at a 30-year low in new business startups."

Still not true.

13. Romney went on to say, "I indicated as I announced my tax plan that the key principles included the following. First, that high-income people would continue to pay the same share of the tax burden that they do today."

At a minimum, this is ridiculously misleading. Under Romney's plan, high-income people would get an enormous tax break.

14. Romney added, "Obamacare is a tax. It's been so determined by the Supreme Court, and it falls predominantly on the middle class."

He's referring to an individual mandate that would apply to 1% of the population. And if President Obama's health care policy "raised taxes on the middle class," then Mitt Romney raised taxes on the middle class.

15. Romney also said, "President Obama raises taxes on the middle class. I will under no circumstances raise taxes on the middle class."

There's overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

16. Romney went on to say, "I will follow a model similar to Simpson-Bowles."

No he won't.

17. Romney also said, "I believe infrastructure is going to see very substantial investments over the coming decade."

He may believe that, but he's also endorsed a budget plan that drastically curtails infrastructure investments.

18. Romney argued, "I believe that you're going to see us having created 12 million new jobs."

If we do nothing, we're on track to create 12 million new American jobs over the next four years anyway.

19. In a televised ad, Romney said Obama "cut $716 billion dollars from Medicare ... to pay for Obamacare."

Oh, please.

20. The ad goes on to say, in reference to seniors, "So now the money you paid for your guaranteed healthcare is going to a massive new government program that's not for you."

That's plainly false. Under the Affordable Care Act, seniors pay less for prescription medication and preventive care -- meaning the policy is "for" them, too.

21. At a campaign stop in Ohio, Romney said under Obama we're not "adding jobs in the coal industry" and not "producing more coal."

Romney's lying. In reality, we're adding jobs in the coal industry and producing more coal.

22. Romney said this week that Paul Ryan reached out to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) to "co-lead a piece of legislation that makes sure we can save Medicare."

According to Ron Wyden, that's ridiculously untrue.

23. In another attack ad this week, Romney once again accused Obama of "quietly ending work requirements" in the welfare law."

He's still blatantly lying.

24. In Beallsville, Ohio, Romney argued, "President said he'd cut the deficit in half. He's doubled it."

Maybe Romney doesn't know what "double" means. The deficit on Obama's first day was $1.3 trillion. Last year, it was also $1.3 trillion. This year, it's projected to be $1.1 trillion. When he says the president "more than doubled" the deficit, as he has many times, Romney's lying.

25. In the same speech, Romney added that Obama has "raided that [Medicare] trust fund."

Obama has strengthened the Medicare trust fund.

26. Romney went on to call the Affordable Care Act an "unproven federal government takeover to health care."

There is no universe in which this makes sense -- "Obamacare" relies on private insurers, not a government takeover. (Also, it's not "unproven" -- the policy works quite well in, ahem, Massachusetts.)

27. Romney also said, "My number four [goal] is to stop spending massively more than we take in to get America on track to have a balanced budget. And I'll do it."

No you won't.

Romney says his plan "can't be scored," but independent budget analysts have found his agenda would make the deficit bigger, not smaller, and add trillions to the national debt.

28. Romney went on to say, "Seventy-five percent of small businesses in this country surveyed by the Chamber of Commerce said that Obamacare makes it less likely for them to hire people."

The "survey" is a joke. The Chamber, a pro-Republican lobbying institution heavily invested in helping Romney, put up an unscientific online survey. Treating this as a legitimate poll of businesses is fundamentally dishonest.

29. Romney also said, "I'm going to put work back into welfare."

Work hasn't been taken out of welfare.

30. Romney went on to say, "[Obama] said if you have a business, you didn't build that. Someone else did that."

That's not even close to what the president said.

31. At an event in St. Augustine, Florida, Romney said the president "won't want to remind people of Greece because that's where he's taking our country if we don't get off the road we're on."

That's painfully untrue.

32. In the same speech Romney said of the president, "He said he'd measure progress also by whether people were able to have a good job that kept them in their home and paid their mortgage. Well, 8.5 million homes foreclosed, a record level, is not success, Mr. President."

Putting aside how dishonest it is for Romney to blame the housing crash on the president, let's also not forget that Romney intends to deliberately avoid any efforts to curtail foreclosures.

33. Romney added, "I'm going to take every government program and apply this test: Is this program so critical it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it? And if it's not, we'll get rid of it."

This continues to be misleading. The implication here is that U.S. debt is financed by the Chinese, but this isn't true -- China only holds about 8% of the nation's debt.

Previous editions of Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity: Vol. I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII,XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX

Being a Mormon i wonder if he will have the same plan for Russia and iran that Brigham Young had for the settlers passing through. Dress up a bunch of murdering nuts to attack and pass them off as Indians? It worked that time.

i see you.

FACTS YOU WON'T FIND ON FAUX NEWS:

STOCK MARKET, Bush closed the DOW at around 8000. We're now around 13000! Obama saved YOUR retirements with the stock market recovery! Thank You Mr. Obama.

JOBS -- Obama adds 3.5 Million in just the past 2 years (this after Bush losing 750K per month) Thank You Mr. Obama. GOP WIL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP YOU FROM KNOWING THIS!!!

ECONOMY GROWTH, Postitive Growth AFTER BEING HANDED Negative Growth by Bush. Thank You Mr. Obama.

TARP (700B), Got TARP paid back w/ interest treat of greater regulation! Thank You Mr. Obama.

IRAQ, We're OUT of the mess Bush created! Thank You Mr. Obama.

TAXES, lower for all but the richest, despite GOP obstruction! Thank You Mr. Obama.

OBAMACARE: Nixon, McCain, Romney and Gangrich, all FOR mandate before they were against it! Hell, Romney drafted the ORIGINAL Obamacare! Thank You Mr. Obama.

Obama got Bin!!! Thank You Mr. Obama.

Obama was on the RIGHT side in Egypt and Libya uprising - NO AMERICAN DEATHS!!! Thank You Mr. Obama.

Obama Got Bin! Thank You. Mr. Obama!

*** All the things I've listed with NOTHING but GOP Obstruction!

GOP - IT TAKES A FAILED HUMAN BEING TO CALL OBAMA A FAILURE.

Homer Adams (Post #2.22)

Do you know how to read and research the truth for own yourself? It sure doesn't sound like it. Try signing up for a Reading 101 course.

An Independent Thinker

You made the foolish statement. Research the truth on your own? What truth? You make up chit and tell someone else to research it?

NO MORE YEARS

NObama, NO Nanny state.

B.O. has got to go!

Yes ! It is time to turn the page and take back our Government from the wealthy, Corporate Elite, and the twisted, manipulative, lying GOP.

ROMNEY / RYAN 2012. Lets get it right this time!

I can't believe the posts here tonight. You call Romney a liar and act like Obama has never lied. Are you that naive? Regardless of liberal or conservative if you are being totally honest, you know there are lies told by both men, whether purposely or not - they are still lies. Do all of you honestly think everyone that votes for Romney is wealthy? You keep shoving that wealthy stuff down everyone's throat every chance you get. I don't remember that happening when John Kerry was running (and he didn't earn his money AND he had more than Romney) - another double standard. This is why I and so many others hate politics and this nasty, hateful process. It's lies on both sides and turns human beings into racists and class warfarists and very ugly people. It's a disgrace to who we should be.

Starsailing

I've read the first 5 of your arguments and you're off the mark as well.

#1. Romney/Ryan plan doesn't kick in until 2023 and nothing changes for current seniors. At that time, 65 year old seniors can choose the traditional plan or opt for a private plan. A subsidy payment would be sent to the plan of their choice and if the private plan costs more, the senior would have to pay the difference out of pocket. Medicare eligibility would slowly be raised to 67 by 2034. There are other stipulations, too many to list here, but the idea of this plan is save Medicare, not destroy it.

#2. If nothing is done with the current system, and even implementing Obamacare, both will be bankrupt by 2022.

#3. This probably is true, but what you are calling growth, coming up from the bottom rung to rung three on a 30 rung ladder is not much growth and not sustainable for the masses.

#4. It's the same scenario as #3, unemployment has come up somewhat but remains over 8%, still too high to grow the economy. This point remains a heavy millstone around Obama's neck, you're trying to put a good spin on a dismal situation, nice try but it won't fly.

#5. A tremendous deficit number no matter what, your defense of this is ludicrous, you're still on a sinking ship, how does this help you.

I don't need to read any further. You're doing to us what you claim Romney is doing to Obama, see ya.

didn't stop you from voting for obama on a hopes and dreams message. Hope all your dreams come true when you wake up for breakfast in your parents house.

Better to have breakfast in my parents house than to have no house at all which is going to happen to many if voMITT and Eddie Munster get in office. Hope all your dreams diminish when you realize the one you supported shakes their little etch a sketch and stabs you in the back and rob you of your hard earn money only to make him and his cronies richer than ever.

An oligarchy in the works.

I find that even though I am less then excited about Romney, I would rather vote for him then vote for President someone who wishes to sign away our sovereignty with the 'Sovereignty of the Seas Treaty' with the U.N., his wishing to strip away our constitutional right to bear arms by signing the U.N. Automatic Weapons treaty (I have a hard time understanding why a leader of this country would think it's OK to make U.S. citizens have to register their weapons with the U.N.), he has shown our subservience to Arab Kings by bowing to the Saudi Arabian King (something never done previously by a leader of our country), he openly told the Russians that he would be happy to make our Missile Defense more in line with what their leader wants if he is reelected (this was recorded on open mike for all to hear). He has sent budget bills that were so horrible that he could not even get one vote from his own party, instead of working on the economy and our dismal employment problem he used his political capital instead to pass a health care bill that the majority of Americans were against, and has during his term put us more into debt then every president proceeding him (if you count the two trillion that he asked for and was given the day he went into office).

If Obama thinks he has done well and is just getting started then I truly fear what he would do the next four years. I think it is better to give someone a chance who has not screwed up this country, then to tell someone that has caused all the above stated problems, not to mention he and his administration along with liberals have done more to tear down racial relations in the last 3 1/2 years then what has been sacrificed for with blood and life's over the last 70 years.

So tell me, does anyone truly think we are better off then we were 4 years ago?

Where is crazy Alan that he thought Romney didn't use a Teleptompter as every person on a podium didn't use - a teleprompter since teleprompters were invented

What is with the Republicans that hate teleprompters - Sorry Alan - we are in the age of computers, blackberries, i-pods - and face book - get over it

Scribbled notes on a podium is gone

geez - is this all Alan has is a teleprompter? Talk about Republicans still in the age before science

┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ MITT ROMNEY AND RYAN !!

So now all the conservatives of America can relax and vote for the guy that none of them really wanted. Obama didn't cure aids so vote for aids, he didn't solve global warming so vote for pollution, he didn't get a public option through so vote for insurance companies, he didn't solve the economy in 4 years so vote for the people who took 30 years destroying it. You hate the solution so vote for the problem. All I really wish to say to conservatives at this point... Shame on you! Instead of reaching across the isle to congratulate the first black man elected to the office of the presidency and to attempt to mend wounds that were centuries in the making, to try to work together to make a positive difference for the present and future citizens of this great nation, and to put us back on the path to to being the greatest nation on earth, you instead called him a foreigner, a divider, a Nazi, a communist, a socialist, attempted to embarrass him, obstructed his every move, held the nations economic and emotional well being hostage for your selfish ideology, blamed him for all of your faults and short comings and the proof is in the pudding. You would rather vote for a magic underpants wearing, tax evading, thief that none of you like and why? Because you want the white house to be white again. You spew cookie cutter comments and don't have minds of your own and you think you know what is best for everyone and you don't even know what is best for yourselves. I shake my head in utter disgust at your lack of class and true patriotism. (Look it up)! Now tell me your usual rebuttals about truth and facts and how I should do my research because that's what politics is all about right, you know the desperate claims that fly out of clueless wretches who use words like patriot and liberty and freedom to get their way and are reflecting their own lack of character as they insult fellow citizens and embarrass the USA abroad... Maybe when you can come to the middle we can heal as a nation but as long as you are so far right that your right elbow is a far left liberal, I can only wish you well in your quest for supremacy and urge you to now go ask Foxnews, Rush and the Koch brothers what you should do next. You are sheeple, and you should be drowning in shame. You will never admit your shortcomings though because you think that makes you weak and that delusion is precisely what makes you the weakest party of people in the history of the world. You are not worthy of my hatred, my disgust or my contempt. You are barely worth my pity but you have it. I voted proudly for Barrack Obama and I will do so again, not for hope and change, that's campaign rubbish designed to get votes like no new taxes, read my lips, less government, reform. Etc... I will cast my vote in hopes he will be elected to finish what he has started and to help people who need it that you kick when they are down and to give the middle class a chance to regain some dignity and feel proud of their country again. Good luck to my brethren liberals and good luck to my opposition as well. My vile, pitiful opposition.

"I wish President Obama had succeeded because I want America to succeed.

How can you want America to succeed when you keep taking your money out of America and hiding it overseas? Mitt, action speaks louder than words.

'The time has come to turn the page'

So the twit doesn't even know how to use his etch-a-sketch. IT'S SHAKEN NOT TURNED YOU DUMBA$$!

Get ready to go back to work people THE FREE Ride is OVER !!!

After mocking Ann Romney's battle with cancer and ms and Romney's religion. And after failing to gain ground accusing Romney of committing a felony and complicit in killing a wife of a laid off worker... what tricks will obama now resort to!?

Hannity was right when he said Obama's campaign has hurt the nation by dividing Americans among racial and class lines, adding that the tenor of his (obama's)re-election bid "is beneath the dignity of that office"!

How very true! Obama's campaign thus far has been in the gutter... how lower can the ba$tard still go? Guess we'll soon find out... coming attraction: the comedy act of BO and sleepy joe, live from NC, lol!

I wonder how may sheeple have been paid to attend that snore fest? Can we expect to see the same Styrofoam Greek Columns of 2008? Will we hear about the successes of obama's administration? Will we see videos of barry killing osama bin laden? What surprises will the Bungler in Chief have for his acolytes?

If you want America to succeed then stop dividing America and waging war on women, the middle class, the poor and the needy while proposing huge 40% cuts in taxes to balance a deficit that you only propose cuts in programs to help the group I mentioned and then rewarding the rich, corporations and big business.

Investing your millions in off-shore accounts and outside the country you say you want to help isn't helping it succeed! the hypocrite reins int he republican party and leadership. Like the idiot said above, "Back to Work!" What about those that can't, not those that don't?????? The republican party has lost touch with America, except for the rich, corporate and business part of it with rewards and cuts in taxes. 40% proposed by Ryan's plan!

Which is the problem in the Romney/Ryan budget plan.

No matter how much they cut in spending, they are also cutting revenue.

Then, to snooker the public, they pick a distant future date the budget will be magically balanced, without consideration of potential intervening events, like the cost of a war with Iran. Either wars are free, or "off budget" and don't count as debt? Go figure.....

So, in the short term they have a free pass to run up the debt, because, after all, they have promised that, at a future date they pulled out of the derriere's, everything will be smelling of roses. A date that is well past the 8 year Presidential term cycle.

That way, when the magic doesn't happen, they can point to the next President and say it was his fault.

The Romney/Ryan budget doesn't balance, the numbers don't add up, and it does nothing but increase debt.

There is no "plan" to create jobs, without a plan to return return jobs outsourced to China, India, Vietnam, and Indonesia. That's why neither Obama nor Romney can discuss job creation, because the damage that has already been done cannot be reversed. Those jobs ain't comming back.

The energy plan of "drill, baby, drill" provides abundant energy to the expanding third world economies of China and India, allowing them to compete across a broader spectrum with the United States. US consumption is stable, increased availability will be exported, trading a long term natural resource for short term profits.

The only thing that will come from this election is we either continue with Obama's failed economic plans, or we switch to Romney's failed economic plans.

You people are getting your panties in a bunch arguing over which is better, cancer or polio.

Either way, we lose.

Romney wants to be Commander in Chief and doesn't even mention Iraq and Afghanistan? This guy is a joke.

This is a conundrum.

1. Mitt Romney is a draft-dodger. He ran off to France in order to avoid serving with our troops.

How could he be Commander-in –Chief of US forces?

2. His record shows that he outsourced millions of jobs to India, Mexico, China, etc.

How could he draft a plan to build the economy when he helped to destroy it?

3. Romney belongs to a secretive cult. For example, if you are not a Mormon, you cannot witness a Mormon wedding ceremony in their “church”.

How could a cult member function as leader of a liberal society?

4. Romney’s great-grandfather and the rest of his kin broke the law, jumped bail and ran to Mexico in order to upkeep their illegal lifestyle. His father was born in Mexico.

Why isn’t Romney running as a candidate in the Mexican or French Presidential elections? How could a law-breaking, polygamous, polytheistic cult member swear to uphold the laws of the United States as President?

5. Mitt Romney is the Anti-Christ. The Mormon book, The Pearl of Great Price, claims that all other Christian groups are "corrupt" and are an "abomination" in God's sight (Joseph Smith, 2:19).

If given another chance, the Republicans led by this Anti-Christ will begin yet another war as they did
in Iraq and Afghanistan which has resulted in the loss of thousands of young American lives. Armageddon will begin. America will be destroyed by the combined forces of Russia, China and Iran. If you vote
for the Republicans your children will be drafted for yet another Republican-inspired war with Syria and Iran. No Mormon will serve in the war for it is against their religious principles. Your children will. Obama fights wars intelligently and from a distance. As shown with Libya, he would not put our troops on the ground and risk lives. Yet Obama accomplishes his aims.

Why would we allow the Republicans to put more young, American lives at risk? Our children are still being slaughtered in Afghanistan every day. How could a member of this divisive cult serve all of the people with fairness? Though Paul Ryan has a Black sister-in-law (nieces/nephews?) and had a Black girlfriend during his college days until she dumped him, this does not confirm that these two would serve the American people fairly.

6. Draft-dodging Romney is hiding his tax returns.

How could he force compliance as head of government when his hands are not clean?

It amazes me that republicans complain about the unemployment rate, when Obama has brought forward a number of solutions, and the only reason they we haven't been implemented is because of rejection by the republicans in the house! If anyone should be complaining, it should be the president!

The republicans have supported infrastructure improvements in the past - especially during a recession. However, even though investment in our transportation system would create new jobs, jump start the economy, increase productivity, all while addressing some critical transportation issues, the republicans have rejected these - ONLY TO INTENTIONALLY STALL THE ECONOMY in hopes of unseating the president.

In all previous republican administrations, when the economy was in a recession, spending increased, government jobs increased, etc., until things stabilized. Yet republicans in congress now insist on cutting the budget now to address the burgeoning deficit THEY created with the Bush tax cuts and the Iraq war.

Republicans created just about every major problem we face today, yet they continue to blame them on Obama.

It is too funny how you have liberals complaining about the lack of an explicit plan from Romney, and at the same time you have liberals espousing exactly what Romney plans to do. Facts just get in the way of liberals, when making stuff up is so much easier. The only candidate we know for a fact has no plan is Obama, as his administration has been a ship with no direction. Obama is a hardcore leftwing lliberal, no middle road with him. Romney is not the typical conservative Republican, stances both moderate and conservative. Maybe the simple difference is that Romney is a proven leader, and Obama is not. A leader is what the country needs.

When a republican or democrat accuses the other side of lies and distortion it is the height of hypocrisy.

The economy has been circling the toilet drain under obama for almost 4 years now! Once we get rid of the neighborhood organizer I see corporations releasing their cash reserves, creating jobs, creating opportunities. Banks will relax their onerous credit policies, people will go back to work creating revenue once again to help reduce barry's debt... the economy will be soon turbo-charged under a new administration who doesn't hate America, but one that loves America!

I am so sick of listening to the lies of the closet socialist who occupies the White House!

Romney/Ryan 2012 AND 2016!

Rick.....

What are you mindlessly blathering on about Obama having no plan?

We have seen Obama's plan, spend on an expanded "safety net" when Americans want jobs, give them health care rather than jobs, then 3 years, and trillions of dollars, later realize that jobs is an issue.

Unfortunately, Romney doesn't have a clue how to create jobs either.

BOTH candidates are adrift in deep space without even a pin point of light from a star to show them the way back to earth.

NEITHER one of these men is qualified to be POTUS.

Okay, now I'll let all of you try to convince me that these two are the best our nation has.......

EDIT: Mike, Corporations will not start spending and manufacturing until they see a demand from consumers for their products. No demand, no hiring, no production increases. It takes more than a change of Presidents to create demand, it takes jobs. It's a circle, what comes first, the chicken or the egg?

I see starsailing, the cut and paster, is back again! Will someone tell the little boy how to delete facebook, twitter, and othe links before pasting his drivel here!

For all his bluster the boy doesn't have an original thought, I bet he'll get lost on the way to the polling booth in November too!

Things are looking good for Mitt with detractors like starsailing and dumbfux around. LMAO!

Great Convention RNC! It exceeded our expectations.... no way can the democrats top your show! I understand they're paying folks to fill empty seats! What a joke!

• Mitt lies bigtime!! And at the expense of the poor and middle class to enrich the 1%. Ah, ROmneyHood...

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How can a man, who hides his money overseas, sends jobs to China, loots companies in the USA and bleeds them dry, come to us with a straight face and say "I want America to succeed?"

Oh, he is throwing the election. That's right. America will succeed if we don't elect MittWit.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 if you really want America to succeed.

Romney 1040

Vince.....Your post is B.S. from the get go! Repub plan is nothing but greedy privatization for profit! There is no cost savings, and it destroys health care.

Ryan plan/repub plan....divide and conquer. Take the senior group and split them away saying you won't put them on voucher crap system .If elected, repubs will go after seniors not on voucher so fast it will make your head spin. Seniors know better. If the crap voucher system is so good why not have it for all asap?. Because it is nothing but greed for the privatization. Even Newt Gingrich says it kills Medicare when dividing the two groups. Medicare will whither and die on the vine.

Repub goal is to take down Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, for privatization. REPUB PLAN MAKES ALL COSTS TO HEATH CARE HIGHER! FACT! Repub plans is to get the Social security money invested into Wallstreet and we know how we can trust wall street! You like that crash? We didn't. Bush tried his hardest to privatize Social security and was sound told NO! WE WERE RIGHT! NO TO PRIVATIZATION!

Debbys comment: I can't believe the posts here tonight. You call Romney a liar and act like Obama has never lied.

Most of the lies you attribute to Obama were promises he was unable to achieve. Romneys lies are so blatant that anyone with a 30 second search would know are untrue. You can accuse Obama of being unrealistic in his hopes but Romneys a flat out liar. Sling enough crap and hope enough people believe enough to make a difference. Your comment seems to be it's ok to lie as much as you want because the other guy lied once. Do you work for Fox news? The station that sued and won the right to lie.

haggisbingo...

Looks just like MLK Jr...good work!

Romney/Ryan 2012!

As a former Young Republican, many years ago, I have grown to despise the party of my past and the protection of the rich, corporations and businesses continues to go on. I guess the fact that these three bought the republican party years ago is of no surprise to me!

clwyd...

...you need to stop the "cut-n-paste"...that same post is getting very old. Trust me, you'll become wiser with a little more age!

Romney/Ryan 2012!

Free market whiner....When I posted, post stuck and I could not clean up as usual....

Glad to see it bothers you when I post some Romney and Ryan pooper lires. Your boys Mittster and Ryan leave quite a pooper trail to see. When your dogs crap on our lawns with lies, you OWN IT and need to clean it up.

Repub plan is to use the plan of Hitlers propaganda tour....Lie often enough and people will start to believe it. Even Fox news is complaining about Nit Wit lying. That is as low as it gets! Newt calls Mitt a liar!

Free market....your rant took up valuable space. Next time try a little substance like....the sky turned light after sunrise, the sky got dark after sunset...!

Obama/Biden 2012

As a former young Democrat and very liberal (aren't we all liberal and dumb at 18?) I saw the world through rose colored glasses. Now I'm older and wiser and definitely right of center. From McGovern and Carter to Clinton (he was the best of the worst) I've seen that liberals are all about talk and dreams, but rarely do they see the whole picture!

This is especially true of today's liberals and especially true of obama who hasn't grasped reality but he's also a ego centric narcissitic. ..... a dangerous combination! He rarely seeks advice from those who could have guided him and he has abandoned Everyone who helped him get where he is now.

The guy's a danger to the country and we should be very fortunate he had only 4 years to screw things up so bad. We simplly can't afford his 'dream' anymore! Romney/Ryan will help clear the smoke away!

Great lines from the convention.

Eastwood "Mr President maybe you should ask the Russians how their ten years in Afghanistan went."

Romney "Obama wants to stop the oceans from rising. He wants to heal the planet. i want to help your families."

My there are falsehoods a plenty posted here today

Just Picking on one, a supposed Obama accomplishment.

TARP (700B), Got TARP paid back w/ interest treat of greater regulation! Thank You Mr. Obama.

From the TARP TRACKING Website. Just over $470 billion was ever lent, And the estimated loss is currently expected to be $70 Billion. IT IS NOT PAID BACK AND NEVER WILL BE. Billions have been written off already as gone.

http://www.investorplace.com/2012/05/2008-tarp-funds-where-are-they-now/

I've looked at a good number of these repeat posters assertions, and continually find they are using material from people who personally vested in Obama. As witnessed by many of these charges, most of the major media will not accept the assertions/charges as true, because they know the sources to be suspect and have been forces to slap some of these claims down.

I don't know about other people, but I'm about to the point of believing anything said or written bad about Romney is exaggerated, manufactured facts, and just outright hate.

I would say Mutthead and Clint's speeches were real abortions.

Mr. Plasticman Mutthead comes across like the rain man on acid. Clint needs to check into a nursing home.

Victor.......you do know that Bush started the war in Afghanistan.......You do know that Bush failed to capture/kill Bin Laden while he was in Afghanistan...You do know the Bush Cheney lied about WMD's in Iraq to start a war for war profiteering for Cheney's company Haliburton and that Bush specifically said, "He wanted to be known as a war president , because war presidents are remembered."

Victor...you do know that Bush abandoned those troops and bases in Afghanistan and took out the troops and supplies from there to support his fake war in Iraq where Bush killed thousands of our troops and others wounded and still dying. REPEAT BUSH ABANDONED TROOPS IN AFGANISTAN TO START FAKE WMD WAR IN IRAQ!

AFGANISTAN IS ANOTHER PILE OF BUSH, THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND TEAM AMERICA ARE SORTING OUT AND ENDING! EASTWOOD SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION TO BUSH !

Obama/Biden and Team America 2012....CLEANING UP THE PILES OF BUSH ALL OVER THE PLANET!

Dear starsailing, instead of just making extreme and negative comments, is there something positive that you can say ? especially about Obama and how happy you are with how things are ? What you feel that he has accomplished in his 4 years in office and what another 4 years under him would mean ?

I watched and then rewatched the speeches last night. Sadly Mr Romney didn't say anything much different as he continued to put some falsehoods. Yeah he tried to sell himself yet relied on his Daddy more than himself. Sad. And he is a draft dodger---wow what an unamerican act yet he wants to the Commander in Chief!

Well Mr. Romeny I have 2 questions directly for you:

1. Will the tax payers in this country be paying the Healthcare for your whole family, grand children included?

2. As a Morman do you support Polygamy and did you support Warren Jeffs and his actions?

I shall look forward to your responses!

I see obama's lies have spread to the posters here! I also see that the master plagerizer STARSAILING, is starting to attribute his cut and pastes to the true author, but in such a fashion people might think he is the author. The young boy has learned well from others.

Great Job RNC! What a magnificent show!

CW Blanchett,

Obama has accomplished more than Bu$hit/Cheney acccomplished in 8 years. Obama's accomplishments are positive accomplishments. Bu$hit/Cheney accomplished the destruction of our country.

Tell me different.

I'm all in favor of campaigns being based on facts. I like to learn something new about the problems we are facing and the proposed solutions our rival parties have.

Lying and distortions are not a way to solve our problems. Facts and comparisons provide a way to understand what is going on around us. It prepares all of us to make better quality decisions about our future.

I have never known anyone who was successful at convincing someone else that what he or she was saying was true when they called that person they were trying to influence a name or insulted them. Insults and angry words will not win anyone over to your side.

And isn't that what this election is all about, convincing the undecided that what one says is true.

Starsailer

Based on your response it's obvious it's not possible to have a sensible conversation with you. You are a zealot for the left, your disdain for Romney and the Republicans blinds your ability to be objective.

You're entitled to your opinions but they are so skewed it's impossible to reason with you, like so many others on this site you're so entrenched in your mindset there's no getting through.

My sympathies.

CW and Vince and leftyfuzzy left...I post my source... if you can't comprehend...tough.....CW...I am happy....to see facts posted bother you.

I can post President Obama accomplishments all day, you wouldn't read them. When I post the facts how Romney and Ryan lie, and how repubs are blocking bills as they pledged, then you read....you read when repubs are caught lying over and over. Bush lied and killed thousands of our troops...our friends, our relatives....Well no more! Again...glad to be happy....knowing I bother you. I will post more now!

Obama/Biden and Team America 2012

Starsailing,

Barry lies every time he speaks. Deal with it. I also love how all the libs are talking about Romney saying getting people to work so they can provide for their families is not important but "climate change" is. Voting for a guy because he seems cool is what got us into this mess almost 4 years ago. Not saying Romney is the answer to all of our problems but he is much better than what we currently have.

"Like so many others on this site you're so entrenched in your mindset there's no getting through."

That's funny, I was just going to say the same thing to you.

Can't take no more,

You're a little mixed up! I'm now older and wiser. I was a Young republican when I was foolish and couldn't think for myself. Now I'm a wise 67. My work for Goldwater, Reagan and Nixon was for people the party would now call liberals it has moved so far to the right! Sieg Heil!

starsailing, great job, those who dis-agree with you have shown not substantive facts, only their own opinion.

Yes, it is true and a fact about the progress Obama has made even with the never before seen obstruction of the Republicans both in the House and the Senate.. The words ring true and I remember them well, spoken by Mitch McConnell as he gathered his group of followers, and right after the inauguration of Obama, to make sure that they do everything in their power to make sure Obama was a "one-term" president... they have used every dirty tricks, every effort, taking the filibuster to the highest ever record of use, to make sure that no bills would pass allowing for jobs and the betterment of the "middle class" it has been "class warfare" for the past Bush Administration and it continues with the Republican convention.

Lies, lies, and more lies, and without a shread of shame for the twisting of facts, the out-right lies, etc, etc....

Keep up the work, truth will win out.... I hope! Although many have secumbed to lies through the ages, and the Republican party now is not the one I once belonged to for some 31 years.

Robin Hot in NM,

How ? Where is his plan? He said he would lay it out? All it is so far is empty words that give more tax breaks for the rich which will not help cut the deficit $5,000,000,000,000 of which comes from bush's wars that Obama is bringing to an end. Lost war I might add with 7,200 wasted lives for nothing so far!

run537

didn't stop you from voting for obama on a hopes and dreams message. Hope all your dreams come true when you wake up for breakfast in your parents house.

At least if Obama's re-elected your parents may still have a home. If it's romney, you can all share an underpass. But at least we'll protect the wealthy!

Badger1,

You are correct in identifying Stephanie Cutter's erroneous comparison to the Reagan recovery from the 82-83 recession. I will point out though that an aggressive stimulus was carried out there with massive tax cutting and large increases in defense spending. In fact, the national debt nearly tripled under Reagan despite tax increases after the recession had ended. But, the stimulus worked in shortening the recession which peaked at over 11% unemployment and was mainly cause by gas price hikes and the Fed's high interest rate actions to stop runaway inflation. The underlying economy then was sound unlike our current recession where housing and banking sustained severe damage.

I don't know what Cutter was thinking when she made the comparison, but I will point out that it was not a remark that was turned into a TV ad and used to deceive voters. I will give her the benefit of the doubt this time, but if she continues repeating this falsehood, then I would also call her a liar. However, at this time I will call it an erroneous statement that has damaged the Obama campaign's credibility.

The same cannot be said for the oft repeated claim about the $716 billion "raiding of Medicare" that was contained in both Ryan's and Romney's speeches as well as a national advertising buy. The CBO states that this money represents cost savings in Medicare over 10 years and it will not affect Medicare recipient's health insurance coverages.

Nice artwork Haggi.

Hope to see you here more often.

Larry-367607

No I don't work for Fox Larry. But I work and have for 41 years - ever since I was 18, got married later, had kids even later and worked full time while my kids were growing up, never been on welfare, never needed it but I have lived from paycheck to paycheck my whole life. I don't hate Romney's wealth - I wish it were me. I'm a smart woman that knows all politicians lie - most people do - except you. You seem to be making excuses for your guy again and because of all the things I wrote about myself above - I just don't have the patience for someone in denial. If I can admit my guy lies (because he's a politician) - suck it up and be honest about yours. Geez!

Ray & Barbara Schaffer
Joy-- how many jobs do think would open up if we drilled for oil, dug for coal or used the wind for turbines?

That is what man was talking about.If we have our own oil,gas would be cheaper.The keystone pipe line even more jobs.Can you really think about things like that or is to hard for you? Ray-

My husband is a petroleum engineer. Has been for 35+ years. No more jobs would be created if we 'drill more'. There aren't enough people applying for the jobs in the oil field now. It's very hard work, dangerous, long hours, and takes training. Sorry, not enough people are willing to get their hands dirty these days.

Then you add in the fact that rigs are in short supply....also, most acreage with reserves are now being drilled, or waiting for higher prices, rigs or workers.

As for the Keystone pipeline, what jobs would have been created would have been temporary. Plus the fact that the Republican governor's of the states were the ones who requested the extra study time. The President just obliged. That area is, in fact over a very important aquifer (the Ogallala) and deserves a good study. And don't for a minute think that the oil transported in the Keystone would be used here in the US. It would be sold on the open market, just like all the oil produced now.

Having been involved in the oil and gas industry for 26+ years (I was involved in regulatory before I met my husband) I know it can be produced, transported, and refined with minimal pollution as long as we have good strong regulations. But touting that more drilling will create jobs and lead to energy independence is a pipe dream

Energy independence will only come from new alternative energy sources, that's where we should be focusing while continuing to drill and produce. The oil and gas industry doesn't need any more subsidies from the government. But clean energy does and THAT'S where the new jobs will be.

Actually it will lead to more jobs. The drilling itself as well a building pipelines and refineries will all lead to thousands of jobs each. Opening up the lands where most of the 1.7 trillion bbls. of recoverable oil lie, will make America energy independent. Of course the price probably will have a floor of about $70 per bbl. If we can expand to producing 30 million bbls. per day, 20 million for our domestic use and 10 million exported, we will be producing at a level that influences world prices. We also will be eliminating most of the trade deficit. About $255 billion in oil exports and $255 billion in imports not needed.

Oil production will probably not require fracking since we can use antenna to generate radio waves that heat oil and allow it to flow and be pumped to the surface. This eliminates the need for steam and the resultant use of water that has better uses. Fracking is still required for natural gas production.

The real creation of jobs is the industries that are not still held back by a lack of oil. Feedstocks are available to produce chemicals,plastics and even Graphene. Solar and wind both have serious drawbacks, the energy they produce is much more expensive than either nuclear or coal power.

Under Romney/Ryan the US can become the number one energy producing/exporting nation in the world.

Dirty Harry said the GOP Convention was loaded with Perverts, dirtbags and losers !!!!!!!!!!!

.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!

…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE

…ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>

Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!

Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!

BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for crony ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!

You must have been talking about chris matthews right?

See what I mean? Nothing real to say. Just vitriol.

Who's the moron? You, Jean321.

Nothing but Puff in Stuff from Corporate Raider Willard "Tax Cheating Moron" Romney. No solid ideas no goals just name calling.

next

Magnum, Pot meet kettle

If you really want to change our Country for the better, vote out the obstructionist Tea Party and ultra conservative right wingers who want to take our country back to pre Civil War times as well as the extreme left wingers who only seem to care about abortions and gay marriages. We can move forward as a nation by working together.

THE UPDATED LIST OF ROMNEY LIES

Pretty much the list of lies the lying liar lied about....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1126094/-YES-Once-Again-ALL-OF-ROMNEY-S-LIES-IN-ONE-PLACE-UPDATED

Who in their right mind would vote for a person that is already biased, ROMNEY took a pledge to a private ORGANIZATION (NORQIST) along with most if not all the REPUBLICANS, when will you people wake the hell up, look how our REPUBLICAN Congress can't do their jobs, sabotaging everything to keep Obama from succeeding, is this the people you want in your government?

Unemployment lines, gas prices skyrocketing, the price of food skyrocketing, almost 200 dollars of my paycheck EVERY WEEK in taxes GONE.. Where is this supposed recovery.. So, when is the magic pink unicorn going to come out and in a cloud of sparkles change this situation? Another four years for Obama to do what exactly? Kill another foreigner to push up his "ratings" at the polls.. Romney may not be the best candidate, but you people make Obama sound like he is the Messiah or something.. This man didn't save anything.. We are in horrible debt, in the TRILLIONS.. There was a post about Fox News.. Please, that is nothing but a biased Democrat rag.. So yeh, if your a "give me something for nothing type, at the cost of EVERY working American", then keep voting for Obama.. That bleeding heart already gives away government cell phones.. CELL PHONES, really????? We don't have room for ANY more freebies.. Get your arses of your couches, put down the playstation/xbox remotes and get a effin job, since according to Obama there are so many out there.. I know the cry babies are going to bash my post, but, unlike most of the internet "pixel-heroes", I really don't care..

• Herman Munster/Eddie Munster = Romney/Ryan = monstrously bad results for America!!

Liberal hypocrisy abounds. When Bush was in office everything was his fault. Now that Obama is in office everything is the fault of Republicans in the House. When Bush was in office Obama blamed him for rising gas prices. With Obama in office there is nothing that can be done to control gas prices. Democrats have been in control of the House for 46 or the past 60 years, and 40 of the past 60 in the Senate, and yet nothing about the condition of the country sticks to them. It is really sad to think that an entire voting bloc can be that naive. There is quite simply more then enough blame to go around Washington, but people are too stupid to realize that division works in a politicians favor.

Bush's energy policy included letting fuel mileage standards for cars to expire. What was needed was to extend fuel mileage standards to SUV's built on light truck frames.

We know that if we conserve gasoline, supplies increase and prices go down. We consumed 25% of the world's oil production then with only 5% of the world's population. Now we consume 24% of the world's oil and all those old SUV's are still guzzling gasoline causing smaller supplies and higher prices even today.

Having more fuel efficient vehicles does reduce gas prices by reducing our consumption of gasoline. But we are in a world market.

Ran out of time on the edit.

Supplies in the world oil market are controlled by oil companies and OPEC. We can produce more oil, but OPEC can reduce supplies to maintain a desired price. They have often done this, but turmoil in the middle east has eroded their ability to control it the way they once did.

We can reduce our demand by moving towards better fuel economy vehicles. The fuel mileage standards we now have again require auto companies to increase the efficiency of the cars they produce. This lowers demand for gas and lowers the price, but these gains can be somewhat cancelled out by the world markets and by oil producers lowering their output to try to maintain the price and their profit margins.

Rick-3416939

Liberal hypocrisy abounds. When Bush was in office everything was his fault. Now that Obama is in office everything is the fault of Republicans in the House.

Some people have very short memories but are very long in hypocrisy at the same time. Seems to me I remember Bush blaming both Clinton and Carter (of all people). Dude it's traditional but I guess if your not old enough you have nothing to compare today's politics to.

• Has Mitt Romney been Set Up to LOSE by the GOP?

http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/01/13610205-romney-set-up-to-lose

Yes, God Bless America. I hope people go to the polls and vote for Obama. Romney wants war with Iran and Russia. Please give me a break, that is the last thing America needs. To take on Putin (Russia) and make threats is crazy.

Obama / Biden 2012

You mean CRAZY like the open mike comment by President Obama. Everybody better wake up, it's pretty serious when our president is making deals with the Russians. Putin is not our friend.

@ HelloDock:

What a sophomoric comment. The implied fact is that a strong military avoids conflict - listen to / read his comments again. To IGNORE Iran and Russia puts us in peril. To watch them closely and keep ourselves strong is what is needed. This has been American policy for decades and it has been mostly successful.

Sheesh!

Romney/Ryan's Plan takes more from the poor to give to the wealthy people and Corporate Elite. (Is that what they think Jesus did during his short life on Earth? And they call themselves Christians?!?) Republicans DISTORT, LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL as evidenced at this R.N.C. Ryan voted against the Stimulus Bill, but then flip-flopped 180 degrees to ask for it. Hypocrisy to say the least !!

All the money coming from the elite shows how desperate they are to gain control of the majority and rule as they so wish without any regards to the Constituents falling under the 2% wealthy. What a terrible waste of money that they could have used to CREATE NEW JOBS, or PAY DOWN THE DEFICIT ( which they plan to let the middle class, poor, and elderly pay off their share of the deficit).

To Quote LP.org (Post # 4.9):

“MSNBC and CNN didn't cover the prayer made by the Catholic Priest just after Romney finished his speach. I flipped back and forth from Fox, MSNBC, and CNN to see who was covering what. Only Fox had the respect to honor the filming of the prayer, with Silence. Meanwhile, Chris Mathews and CNN were flapping their gums. At this point, I don't think CNN or MSNBC cared or in fact were intentionally trying to keep the democatic catholic voters from seeing this kind of respect, showed by the NRC tonite.”

How many young children did the Catholic Priest rape as legitimate rape according to Akin's new definition? Ann they call themselves, "Hypocritical Christians"? !? There is an old saying that fits those like you: "There are none so blind as those, who won't see." Take off your "rose colored glasses" before this Country falls away as other great countries did in the past. Greed, lies, and bigotry can only last for so long. And we are sick and tired of hearing this from the GOP.

Rome fell because of the greedy elite. There's an old quote, "What goes around, comes back around." Europe is experiencing this as well with their suffocation, suppression, and wasting of money on the the elite life style before even considering the economy's needs. And to the GOP, an old quote says: "There are none so blind as those, who won't see."

I honestly don't think you're much of an "Independent Thinker". You sound like every other liberal on here - just exactly like them in fact - not an independent thought in there. So if I were a registered Republican, according to you, I "DISTORT, LIE, CHEAT, and STEAL" - that's what you said. You don't know me. That's a pretty broad and ignorant statement to make - especially for someone who calls themself an "Independent Thinker" - you are nothing of the sort and quit labeling people you don't know. That would be like me saying all liberals are stupid idiots. Some of my best friends and some of the people I respect most are liberals and I would never ever label them that way. Do I think some are - after reading some comments on here tonight - yes - but never all. Just be careful how you say things.

Republicans love wars. Every republican administrations has a war, attack a country. They destroy the economy and can't fix it. What they do? Create a war to deviate the focus. Forget about the economy the war is an excuse for everything and if you are against the war you are anti American. They create wars and use it at a shield. Cowards! The Bush administration spent 8 years using 9-11 as excuses for their failure. It's legitimate that the Obama administration keep blaming the Bush administration for the situation of the economy. It's a fact. 3.5 years it's not enough to fix what it takes 10 years to things to improve. President Obama should not be shy about that it should be said every day just show the numbers. I wonder how can someone vote for a republican. The American people is known to be very stupid. Thank god 50% are very smart reelect Obama. What's wrong with the undecided? are they so narrow minded. What it take so long to decide what is going on in both sides. By the way why Bush was not invited to make a big speech? oh they brought the sold soul Condi Rice! The yes sir madam. Some idiots are loving her speech. I think she is an arrogant person who did not accomplish anything when she was secretary of State. She went around the world to tell the other nations what to do. Of course she never got nothing from Russia and China. She had the nerve to say the Bush administration should be credited for Bin Laden elimination. How disgusting is that?

┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ MITT ROMNEY AND RYAN !!

Who in their right mind would vote for a person that is already biased, ROMNEY took a pledge to a private ORGANIZATION (NORQIST) along with most if not all the REPUBLICANS, when will you people wake the hell up, look how our REPUBLICAN Congress can't do their jobs, sabotaging everything to keep Obama from succeeding, is this the people you want in your government?

Go ahead Romney, turn that page. If you take office it will read: "The End of a Nation."

its ok to say God bless America... it means good things whether or not you are religious. It's people wishing you well. Take the complement and move on.

What Republicans Say:

Chris Christie - On Aug 28, 2012 Tampa, used the word "Truth" 16 Times in his keynote speech at the RNC convention. And he specifically said this…

• We have a nominee who will tell us the truth and will lead with conviction. And now he has a running mate who will do the same.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/28/transcript-chris-christie-speech-at-republican-national-convention/#ixzz259Pc6lKX

What Republicans Do:

Romney pollster Neil Newhouse stated: "We're not going [to] let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers." ... on the same day as Christie's speech, during an ABC News/Yahoo! News event at the RNC Convention. ABCNews.com

Then Paul Ryan Spoke:

and Fox News contributor Sally Kohn had this to say about Paul Ryan's convention speech on August 29th, 2012

• … anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz254a2euWo

• Republicans SAY ONE THING and DO ANOTHER.
• How can anyone TRUST a Republican?

A Vote for Romney is another War with Iran, the GOP killing field, the War Mongers, When are they going to stop Killing people for their 1% buddies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New IranPAC Campaign Ad

• Don't Vote For Romney
• He wants to Bomb Me!
• (I'm Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and I approved this ad.)

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I notice all that religous tolerance from posts by dems.

What is that got to do with his skills? The man is a born leader, son of a leader and the next President of this Great Country

daisy06,

You misspelled MORON....

OK Daisy, so Mormons are out. Which religions would Democrats like you allow to be President.

and what is obuma? lol

Obama is a Christian. Thank you!

It's spelled: "MORMON" ya dumb A$$. It appears this country is still a bunch of
biggots. Why would Mitt care about drilling oil if he wasn't interested in
saving America's financial backbone? The guy's got more self-made money than
Obummer has blown. Well, almost.

American Patriot: I would really question whether President Obama is a Christian. Christian's don't believe in abortion otherwise you're not a Christian.

ew daisy06. She's intolerant and prejudiced.

┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ MITT ROMNEY AND RYAN !!

Who in their right mind would vote for a person that is already biased, ROMNEY took a pledge to a private ORGANIZATION (NORQIST) along with most if not all the REPUBLICANS, when will you people wake the hell up, look how our REPUBLICAN Congress can't do their jobs, sabotaging everything to keep Obama from succeeding, is this the people you want in your government?

Believe'nAmerica: I would really question whether President Obama is a Christian. Christian's don't believe in abortion otherwise you're not a Christian.

If you really believe in America you'd believe in the constitution which is founded on the principle of separation of church and state. Most Christians believe the welfare of the mother comes before that of an unborn child or fertilized egg and have no desire to see Taliban style Christian laws that would charge a woman with murder for aborting a 3 week old fetus or simply taking the morning after pill as it would kill a fertilized egg. Your argument that only those who interpret Christian values as you do are true Christians. Hmm, Sounds like the different Muslim factions that kill each other because the others aren't "true Muslims".

Abortions are OVERUTILIZED if you ask me.. It's called a condom, use it.. If a woman is raped, or incest, or the baby will be born terminally ill, or mentally sick, well, that may be a somewhat valid excuse.. It's not like there aren't PLENTY of barren mothers that would appreciate what these women don't.. A baby.. No matter which way you try and excuse it, it's a life.. Abortion is NOT birth control.. So many people use it as such.. Oooops I got pregnant, lets go get an abortion.. UGH.. I also feel like if you can't sustain your family size, you shouldn't be permitted to continue procreating on the backs of the rest of us.. If your on public assistance, STOP procreating, you can't afford anymore.. The taxpayers are sick of paying for your kids..

Believe'nAmerica

American Patriot: I would really question whether President Obama is a Christian. Christian's don't believe in abortion otherwise you're not a Christian.

That is your definition of what a Christian believes. You don't speak for every Christian on the face of this earth.

See, this is a prime example of the kind of intolerance that is pushed forth under the guise of religious belief. If you personally don't believe in abortion then don't have one. What any other person believes in or not is no concern of any other individual. How does any one woman having an abortion affect another woman? How does it affect any other man.

If you are truly a believer in the existence of a "GOD" then you should have the reverence and faith to believe that each and every individual on the face of this planet will stand alone in judgement before GOD on their day of reckoning. What I or any other person believes, thinks, supports or attacks in someone else life doesn't matter one single bit at the end of the day. What matters is how will GOD judge you in the end.

And Larry-367607, well said!

LaulausAbortions are OVERUTILIZED if you ask me..

You have proof of your statement or is that just your opinion?

The republican platform opposes abortion under any circumstance including rape and abortion. The rest of the country doesn't have to abide by what people like Laulaus believe. Republicans want to prevent women from taking birth control, force poor women to have children they can't afford and then deny the end result access to medicaid, food stamps or school nutrition programs. You bitch about paying for unwanted children though you demand they be born. Well I'll bitch about paying taxes to support the republican war machine. It's time we spent a little more on our people to create jobs and a little less on our 800 foreign bases. Defending our country doesn't require defending every country claiming to be a friend.

fracking nuts...

Cool...like to know how you did that!

Also like to know how your brain can be so twisted? LOL

Romney/Ryan 2012! Vote against Obama like your life depends on it!

Malignancy

It's spelled: "MORMON" ya dumb A$$. It appears this country is still a bunch of
biggots.

bigots*

Irony.

Hooray for Mitt Romney! He put it all very sucinctly last night when he said "Obama promised to quell the rising waters, I promise to help you and your families."

We have had four years without leadership while the extremist-race baiting-leftist-guerrilla wing of this country tries to shout down, and drown out everyone else who stands up and says what all of us can plainly see with our own eyes.

Obama hasn't done a damned thing.

Period.

The economy is still in the toilet, the national deficit is more than triple what it was when he took office, unemployment is near 8%, and our military is being downsized at a time when we should be increasing our vigilance to keep our country and its people safe.

Yeah sure, he gave the order to go in and get Bin Laden. But, guess what? My CAT could have and would have given that order. It was a no-brainer,. The real story behind that mission is the manner in which the intelligence was gathered, over a 7 year period, that led to Bin Laden's capture. They got him with information that was obtained from detainees at Gitmo. So, I guess the waterboarding worked after all, no?

But, beyond that there is no value to this Presidency. Obama promised to be different. He promised change.

That isn't what we got. Instead, we got a President who tells you to your face that he won't allow lobbyists access to the White House. Then he turns around behind your back, and gives millions of dollars worth of federally guaranteed loans to two of his biggest campaign contributors.

We also got a President who refuses to explain the relationships he has with racist-cult religious leaders, violent criminals who participated in the bombing of federal buildings and people's homes, and federally-convicted, influence-peddling, political-racketeers (the last of whom helped Obama broker thefinancing and purchase of his Kenwood estate).

Come on folks. It's time for us to be adults, and to do the right thing. We need to get out and vote for Mitt Romney as if our lives depended on it.

Because someday in the not too distant future, it just might!

DEMOCRATS for ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!!!!

ZMan, your argument sounds nice-ish, but your use of the phrases "racist-cult religious leaders" and"extremist-race baiting-leftist-guerrilla wing" just...You make it sound like you lump the entire left into one big group, place a label on them, then burn them all at the stake.

Also, Democrats for Romney/Ryan 2012? Allow me to show you something.

Larry367607

Apparently reading isn't one of your strong points.. I never said I was opposed to birth control.. Condoms, pills.. I am all for it.. Killing babies, sorry I draw the line there..If you READ what I wrote which apparently (like most libs) you take what you want out of the statement I made and twisted it to fit your own agenda..

Sayitisntso..

Statistics prove that.. Do YOUR research.. Research abortion statistics over the last 10 years.. The abortion rate is climbing.. You're not going to tell me that ALL or even HALF were products of rape, incest, deformity.. So, please use your brain.. Women are out there spreading their legs and getting knocked-up, and going to get abortions.. If you want to sleep around, go for it, but please use a condom.. It's not like their unavailable.. Most planned parenthood clinics, and clinics alike GIVE them away for free.. To even have an unplanned pregnancy is ridiculous in this day and age with all of the information and resources available..

Blah to you, html formatting! I have not yet mastered you!

Anyways, apologies for the cutoff in my previous post.

www.republicansforobama.org/

Just add the http:// and off you go.

Larry

The Republicans want Women to be responsible and use common sense. When the egg is fertilized within 21 days it will have a heartbeat, at that point it is a human life. An abortion should be the absolute last line of defense in protecting the Mother if it comes to that.

To use abortion as contraception is irresponsible and in my view morally wrong, why? Women claim they have certain rights regarding their bodies that no one should override, and I agree. But when a woman allows the opposite sex to deposit his dna into her resulting in a third party, a fetus, she now must acknowledge the rights of the new entity if it survives past the point where it has a heartbeat. The fetus is now a human, a very tiny human, but no less a human. Her decision to share her body with another expands her responsibility to the other parties, she's no longer is going it alone.

With the wide array of contraception on the market the number of abortions should be greatly reduced.

2006 stats show that year there were 6 million pregnancies, 1.3 million resulting in abortion. 1% were caused by rape and incest. There is a holocaust happening in this country that is viewed as a "right". Shockingly, the majority of abortions are performed by Christian Protestants and Catholics.

Today's culture doesn't seem to have a problem with this, by and large they are open to this practice. The Republican party is trying to restrain this mentality and is getting a lot of flack, they are said to be out of touch. There are certain things in this life that are "right"(the sanctity of life) at any time in our history and this is one of them.

Lance, I agree with you 100%..

*Vince

• Republicans Can't TRUST Republicans

Tampa, Aug 30, 2012: at a fundraiser during the Republican National Convention, GOP strategist Karl Rove said, "We should sink Todd Akin," and followed that by stating, "If he's found mysteriously murdered, don't look for my whereabouts!"

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/todd-akins-office-disturbed-by-karl-roves-joke/

Karl Rove, GOP/Republican strategist

Todd Akin, GOP/Republican Congressman, candidate for U.S. Senator of Missouri

• How can anyone TRUST a Republican, including a Republican?
• Watch your BACKS Republicans, there might be a Republican behind you!

Romney victory by a landslide.

It will happen when the sea levels drop by 2 feet (next Ice Age perhaps).

Okay GBOB2, and if America is at war with Iran and Russia you go and be on the front line.

in your dreams...lol

Nash-Nari:

Romney victory by a landslide.

It will happen when the sea levels drop by 2 feet (next Ice Age perhaps).

The Earth is due for another Ice Age event. They come about every 15,000 years and it has been about that now. FYI, the Earth has seen more years with the Polar Caps green then white.

Yes ! It is time to turn the page and take back our Government from the wealthy, Corporate Elite, and the twisted, manipulative, lying GOP.