Obama/Biden 2012!

The truth doesn't seem to make much difference.

The article talks about the numbers not really changing after Ryan's lie-a-thon.

Just the other day I was on a social media site, and I asked some folks some questions about their positions. I was straightforward and polite -- I really wanted to know what they thought.

Not only did they not answer my questions -- their replies were "People should not talk about politics here" and "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion."

Of course it is true that we are all entitled to our own opinion. (Not our own facts, however, Paul Ryan.) I suspect, however, that people who tenaciously cling to their own opinions may not be easily swayed by the truth...

Fox News had this to say about Paul Ryan's convention speech on August 29th, 2012

• On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz254a2euWo

• A NEW political Catch-Phrase has been invented!

Whenever we catch a GOP/Republican/Conservative/TeaBagger in a LIE we can post:

• LYIN' LIKE RYAN!!!

(This should become even more popular than "Bend it like Beckham", given how man more GOP/Republican/Conservative/TeaBagger LIARS there are versus soccer players world-wide. Can't throw a dead cat without hittin' a Lyin Ryan!)

Sadly, the truth doesn't seem to matter much to the American public. They seem more engrossed with talking points rather than discovering that what they are hearing are complete lies. I honor the office of President and respect the men that have been in it, whether I've agreed with their policies or not. For Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan to campaign and address the world with nothing but lies makes me sick for this country. President Obama is moving this country forward, slowly, but home sales are up, the DOW is up, and interest rates are low. I for one, do not want someone who flat out lies about his voting record in Congress to be anywhere near the office of President. And for those of you that do, shame on you.

4 more for 44

I agree, Layton. The new Republican party seems to be just fine with their nominees and their lies and deceptions. I really can't recall seeing anything like this in a long time. That party has been so taken over by an unethical and immoral bunch. We will all pay the price if Romney is elected.

O&Joe 2012

TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS!

"Don't Roof Rack Me, Bro!" American dogs who demand to ride inside.

The real intent and purpose of republicanism is, and always has been, "governmental and social thuggery". A tax evading President and a serial lying Vice President will not hinder this collective pursuit. Anyone who believes differently isn't a true republican. Any truth that cannot be rationalized to support a republican lie will be decreed itself a damn lie.

CLARIFICATION OF Bruce comment @ 1.3: (that he , uh, left out ) the "left" is good at that.

#1. THE FOX QUOTE YOU LEFT IS FROM one of Fox's LEFTIST CONTRIBUTORS...yes, the DO employ several Democrats on their staff, unlike MOST of the MSM, who employ far less conservatives...and they are kept quiet.

#2. RE: Closed plant... refer to Will@1.7 above for story about Obama's unkept campaign promise.

Three things I wanted to mention here:

1. Diversity: Republicans love to talk about diversity in their party and if you look at the audience make up in the convention and the make up of the grassroots, as someone said, "John Boehner is most colored guy you could find in the Convention." As for Condi Rice's infamous speech yesterday on how she escaped the poverty and lack of opportunity from Mobile, AL, she forgot to mention that Mobile, AL is still very much the same as it was in 1965 and not much progress for those poor African-Americans. Diversity in Republican party is all at the top and not at the grassroots level.
2. Ryan's lie about Janesville GM plant: When Brian Williams interviewed Paul Ryan, he didn't have the guts to call him as an outright liar on this Auto issue as well as the Medicare issue. Obama's auto bailout, conceptually - helping private companies with public money - whether you like that action itself or not, has indeed saved one million direct jobs (auto and auto-ancillary industries). That's a damn good call for a $110billion spend, in my mind and almost $80 billion has been repaid back to the government.
3. Education for America: Both Condi Rice and Jeb Bush touted republican credentials in bettering American Education system. But their actions and proposals don't match the rhetoric. Mitt Romney, in April of this year to a private business audience that if he became the President, he would abolish the Dept of Education, HUD and Commerce Dept. Jeb Bush wants to throw the public money on the voucher program for few people in poor school districts so that they can attend private school (using public money) and this to me sounds fishy...

The whole list of contradiction in what they say (what they want the public to hear) and what they actually do is mind boggling, whether it is promoting renewable energy, Science, education, fairness in taxes, enforcing environmental regulations, calling out the corporate criminals, etc. They are always on the side of the rich, wealthy folks who wants to have it all and all others to be subservient to them.

The Choice in this election couldn't be more clearer!!!

@Nash-Nari#1.11: You are spot on! They pull the wool over the eyes of the lesser minded then treat 'em like the trash they allow themselves to be. Damn shame. Best regards to you. Mac Forrester

What's amazing here is that the GOP seems to have just abandoned all pretense. They're openly saying that they want to push women back to the 1950s, they openly push for voter ID laws that will disenfranchise legitimate, registered voters because they know those particular people tend to vote Democratic, they don't care about facts ("I don't believe in evolution!" "Global warming is a worldwide hoax and conspiracy!" "We won't let this election be dictated by fact-checkers!"), and they will brazenly lie and know that it won't turn off their base at all. In fact, these people REVEL in it.

Simply breathtaking to behold and I cannot believe how toxic the political "process" has now become.

As for Ryan's speech of lies, honestly, how badly do you have to twist the truth to get basically the entire press corps down on you, including perennial GOP cheerleader Fox News?

Fox News: "Cow dung flowed from Ryan's mouth."

WP editorial: "Paul Ryan's breathtakingly dishonest speech"

Esquire Magazine: On RNC Opening Night, Republicans Dare to Build a Lie

Bloomberg: Paul Ryan’s Hypocritical Attack on Barack Obama

The New Yorker: The Paul Ryan Speech: Five Hypocrisies

As I've read, the Republicans don't have to win the election; they just have to get it close enough to steal. Watch closely, folks. These guys will stop at nothing to get back into power.

Truth be told, most opinions cast in comment sections such as these are largely issued by folks who won't take the time or trouble to go vote!

I wonder why they don't have a poll on that...

did you vote last election?

will you actually vote this election?

do you have legal documentation for proof of ID at your local voting poll site?

If elected, Romney/Ryan will run a highly secretive White House, more secretive that any other in anyone's memory. Mitt Romney is actually very uncomfortable around the news media when it comes to explaining anything he's asked about, so it's been suggested in a leak from all the private talk amongst his closest supporters, that its a pretty safe bet he will severely restrict the Freedom of the Press with the help of his hand-picked or appointed Advisers.

...And just my opinion, and I may be wrong, but I suspect they will vet their White House Spokesperson to insure he can tell nonstop, plausible lies and distortions to the Press, and convincingly mislead the public with a straight face.

So ...with Mitt in the Oval Office, conspiracy theorists may actually start having some real validity to their normally absurd-sounding, fearful claims.

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Mitt Romney To Donors: I Would Explain My Energy Plan, But Reporters Are Here

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney started to lay out his energy plan at a Tuesday event, but because there were reporters in the room, he decided against doing so.

During a Houston fundraiser, Romney told a room of about 125 donors that he planned to unveil his comprehensive energy plan this week. He said his proposal will specifically relate to fossil-based fuels. But then, he said no more.

"I know that we have members of the media here right now, so I'm not going to go through that in great detail," Romney said, according to a pool report from the event.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/mitt-romney-energy-plan_n_1819682.html

Truth be told, most opinions cast in comment sections such as these are largely issued by folks who won't take the time or trouble to go vote!

I wonder why they don't have a poll on that...

did you vote last election?

will you actually vote this election?

do you have legal documentation for proof of ID at your local voting poll site?

Can you back up your initial statement which you offered up as fact? I'm thinking you're just pulling it out of your butt, personally, but if you can provide even peripheral research that validates the assertion that "most" comments on news stories such as this are made by people who don't bother to vote, I'll certainly apologize.

I'm betting that won't be necessary, though. :)

I just love that a guy who has been on the House Budget committee and has been Chairman since 2011 has the gumption to talk about how bead the deficit has gotten, and how nothing is getting done in Washington. Now after failing to do his job for 5 years, he thinks he deserves getting a promotion to VP. Not this year! Little Lyin' Ryan!

I also think its hilarious that you see so many "Women Love Ann" signs at the RNC. No matter how many love Ann, none seem to love Willard.

lmao. Notice how the Tweets calling out Lyin' Ryan have more substance than the Tweets supporting Lyin' Ryan. I'm really not surprised that the GOP voters aren't swayed despite Ryan lying in his speech. After all: the GOP won't be affected by FACT CHECKERS.

Bunch of bumbling idiots. So glad RNCircus 2012 is over!!

Heres a little somthing I found on Foxes web site

Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words

By Sally Kohn

Published
August 30, 2012

FoxNews.com

1. Dazzling

At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul
Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him
view him favorably.

So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself
and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the
speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan
talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end
of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and
enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been
desperately lacking in this campaign.

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying
much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect
Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of
guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play
soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have
done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney
has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized
himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.

2. Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of
attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world
record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped
into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran
the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely
created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that
media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that
flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain
arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United
States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was
actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down
of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under
President George W. Bush. Ryan
actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has
criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to
prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to
give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what
the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking
$716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in
Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients
out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget
plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record
in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get
away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to
care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should
be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but
sadly, there were many.

3. Distracting

And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.

Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all
abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch
with 75% of American voters.

Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social
Security to Wall Street.

Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending
and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.

Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate
programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut
taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase
—the deficit.

These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to
say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and
explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan
airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.

At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used
to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem,
or you can be part of the solution."

Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability
problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic
facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a
much larger problem for himself and his running mate.

Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributor and writer.

Even Fox news called ryan a lier. wow

Voucher boy ryan is a psycopathic liar and a lapdog for those two corporate whore koch brothers. He seemed to leave out some important facts out of his speech like the one where he used a socialist program like SS to put himself through college. Wow voucher boy is a socialist??? And now that same hypocrite wants to end Social Security for anyone under the age of 55?? And wants to give all of the money saved from that to his one percenter "job creator - wink, wink" buddies as more wealthy welfare tax break entitlements so they can hide it in Swiss and foreign tax havens so they do not have to pay taxes????? vulture and voucher are flippin delusional if they think any rational American would even entertain such folly. These jackazzes are raping middle class America and not even attempting to hide it.....good luck with that plan!!!!!!

And ryan keeps lying about how he has always been a deficit hawk.....WHAT?????? He voted for every single budget busting unfunded bill the shrub and cheney could muster up from 2000 - 2008. EVERY ONE including two unfunded wars and Medicare part D that were all funded by borrowing money from the Chinese producing a 11 trillion dollar deficit at the end of the shrubs term. Now we have a Democratic president who has to clean up the disaster/depression the republicans left him and ryan has the audacity to suddenly claim he is a budget/deficit hawk????? The gop hypocrisy has no bounds........

1.9 collapsed for what reason? For using the word vile? Or for using the abbreviation BS? Or maybe this liberal site does not like the truth.

Poor poor Will. Our facts and truth outweigh yours. Simple as that. Obvious to a majority of reasonable thinking americans. You'll just have to live with it. Don't be so insecure. Just because the republican leadership is lame, doesn't mean you have to be.

Republican leadership sold the party out the first day of this administration. You need to replace them. ALL of them. They have not done a damned thing positive for this country in OVER a decade!

Ryan, whom many Americans were getting their first long look at as his party's vice presidential nominee, made several assertions Wednesday night that many nonpartisan watchdogs and news organizations called mostly false or misleading.

Wow. Another Republican LIAR. Color me surprised.

I agree, Layton. The new Republican party seems to be just fine with their nominees and their lies and deceptions. I really can't recall seeing anything like this in a long time. That party has been so taken over by an unethical and immoral bunch.

Well, this shouldn't surprise anyone. At the last election, the Mormon Cult was nothing more than a Laughingstock Cult to the GOP. Remember? It wasn't that long ago. The Republican Party said it couldn't have a mormon candidate becuase that just didn't square up with the fundamental values of most Americans and the GOP.

WHOOPS! What happened? What happened to their VALUES??

Suddenly, their leader is a Magic Underwear Mormon Cultist? A man who uses his cult to hide behind in order to avoid serving his country in the military. (There's a new one for Right Wingers -- this is the first presidential election in my lifetime that they weren't screeching and shrieking about military service being a KEY PART for presidential office... gee folks, what happened to THAT talking point??)

And -- nothing about VALUES. They sold theirs in order to have a cultist who believes in a god that he is convinced places critical value on people wearing Magic Underwear. Those who do are the Chosen Ones who will get a special place in heaven. Those who don't are less than, and won't have a seat at god's table. that is what every mormon, including Romney, thinks of every non-Mormon. Anything else is a complete fraud. Republican or not, he knows (in his mind) that every non-Mormon is a much lesser person than he is in god's eyes. And these right-wing idiots follow him around, mouth open, tongue hanging down, droll pouring out one side, and not a thought of their own -- and they don't want to know or acknowledge that this is exactly how Mittens views each one of them: LESS THAN.

The GOP has no strident, consistent values. They sell their values for a dime. Their main cause is actually their anti-gay, anti-female, pro-BuyBull social agendas. they could care less about the economy -- why else would they vote for a cultist whackadoo who hasn't given anyone even ONE PLAN for addressing the future of this country, our economy, jobs, the deficit... NOTHING!

What a HOUSE of CARDS.

FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!

Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz254c4EVOK

Ryan is too stupid and too arrogant to be VP. Didn't he know that the lies he told would be exposed? I guess he figured that it really didn't matter - all he had to do is get on stage, tell his lies and the right-wing lemmings in the audience - live and at home - would just swallow it hook line and sinker.

The Romney lies about welfare appear to be working, maybe Ryan figured, what the heck....

KimH - What surprises me about Paul Ryan's speech aside from the blatant lies and pandering - my husband who is a former Republican and did not want to watch this speech stood listening - and made the comment

"Wow - he sounds like a high school Class Valedictorian - strike that Class Valedictorian's are better"

Barbara - give your husband a high-five and/or hug from me. I've always thought that Mitt Romney's campaign seemed more aligned with running for Student Body President rather than the President of this great Nation. Ryan is just the side-liner to Mitt's incredible desire to win an office of which he has absolutely no qualifications for. He lied about Bain, stunk at Governor, and took federal monies to help with the Olympics and lied about that. Mitt has aligned himself with the Koch's and Sheldon Adelson who want a President they own. Mitt Romney is more than happy to be bought by his fellow millionaires to obtain his crown.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mitt-romney-is-lying-again-20120830

4 more for 44

The Republicans talk about entitlements. Romney feels that he is entitled to be president. He and his cronies are so mega rich that they can just say what they want and do what they want and essentially buy the presidency. What is ironic to me is that their base is buying into it, and the ironic part is that they are going to pay the price, too, if Romney gets anywhere near the WH.

4 more4 44!

Obama/Biden 2012 FORWARD!

"We've got your back, Mr. President!"

Dal,

Great link. I bet this particular bit stuck in the craw of many of FoxNews daily readers:

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

• 'Honey Boo Boo' ratings top Republican National Convention

By Michael O'Connell, The Hollywood Reporter

"Here Comes Honey Boo Boo," TLC's controversial reality show about a self-proclaimed "redneck" family and their "Toddlers and Tiaras" daughter, hit another ratings high on Wednesday night.

That's all you need to know about the Romney/Ryan Campaign!

DR JBA - You've probably been around as long as I - I heard the same crap from Sir Ronnie - who the RNC honored tonight who started our downward spiral

Maybe you weren't listening but I was - and I was running charts how money was being siphoned off from State Governments - how Unions were being busted - and how the War Hawks where taking control - plus emptying the insane asylums - because they were defunded

Did I live in a vacuum or did you?

I can't wait for the Presidential debates where Romney/Ryan lies will be exposed. If someone lies this blatantly either they think the people who they are lying to are ignorant or they just don't care, cause they will say anything to accomplished what they want and that's scary, but I'm not worried cause they don't have a change in hell of winning. Obama/Biden "2012"

no kiddin' lu.... Romney's gonna get slaaaaaaaammed. Obama is by far a better speaker and has more ammo. Romney lies, cheats, and has no plan for this country. He's the one supplying his enemy with firearms to shoot him down! Mittens/Lyin Ryan 2012 can't make achieving a 2nd term any easier for President Obama.

Obama/Biden 2012!

"I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you've made -- how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you're churning out," Obama said. "And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years."

If the above quotation is correct, then Mr Ryan's claim that he 'remembers Obama saying 'he'll keep that plant open,' seems to reflect the same type of memory that Rmoney has regarding what taxes he's paid; with memories like that, who needs Alzheimer's?

Well, pal, what you say i certainly true of the Repugs. But you have to choose and if you don't vote, you are handing our country over to people you probably don't like and will create even more problems ofr those of us who do actualy take the trouble to vote, butaren't in the "winning," "majority," meaning those who are allowed to vote when the Repugs come out with their voter suppresssion schemes to steal yet another election like they did in 2000 with the connivance of the ppolitical whores on the U.S. Supreme Court. Obama shold win because most Americns believe what he believes, but the Repugs will stop at no dirty trick to get their way. They are a renegate political party as bad as the KKK or the Communists and ought to be outlawed as un-American. If you cop out, shame on you. You're no better than one of those voters who want to hand our country over to these fascists.

FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!

Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz254c4EVOK

It's from the opinion page, dummy, written by a staunch liberal that works for FOX.

Well, does that mean you have to call people names? Nice..really classy!

LR Lucas: Why do you "detest" the president? Glad R&R scare you, but Obama is right of center politically, exactly where The GOP was in the 1990s. He's also with the only party standing for the middle class, which is dying.

What is it that makes you "detest" him--other than the color of his skin? This is a straight question. I really want to know why 48% of this nation despises a man who's smart, graceful, gracious, decent, and witty. Other than his color, what is it??

I voted for Barack Obama. We simply cannot AFFORD another 4 years of his policies. I like him.. I think all 4 of the gentlemen in this race are decent, nice guys who believe wholeheartedly that there policies are the best thing for this country.

What we the voters need to decide is, what do we want our country to look like in 10 years? Go see Obama 2016.. then answer that question and WHO is going to get us there?

I'd like to hear the answer to that to. Can people really be that blind that they can't see Grover and his gang in all the lie's?

Helmutbreaker, it's an opinion written by a staunch liberal working at Fox News??????? That's the funniest comment I've read here all year. So tell me Helmy, are the Muslim, communist, socialist liberals starting to infiltrate Faux News??? OMG, Roger Ailes is probably hiding in the bunker at his office wimpering while anticipating those Muslim commies attacking any minute. I do hope you were trying to be comical with that comment because it was comedic gold. A staunch liberal working for Faux News.....you crack me up.

Love these comments...the Male Palin lies his buns off while looking Americans right in the eye, and the Republican response is "He's a politician, he's supposed to lie." There was a time when a politician was chastised over being caught in an obvious fabrication - now, it's 'the more the merrier'!

The Republican political machine thinks they can 'lie and buy' their way into Office, I don't think so!

And your reason for detesting Barack Obama is?????

There is no liberal side to Fox news. They tell them what to say and how to say it.

They come in the form of an executive memo distributed electronically each morning, addressing what stories will be covered and, often, suggesting how they should be covered. To the newsroom personnel responsible for the channel's daytime programming, The Memo is the Bible. If, on any given day, you notice that the Fox anchors seem to be trying to drive a particular point home, you can bet The Memo is behind it."^[71][72]

Photocopied memos from John Moody instructed the network's on-air anchors and reporters to use positive language when discussing pro-life viewpoints, the Iraq war, and tax cuts, as well as requesting that the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal be put in context with the other violence in the area.^[73] Such memos were reproduced for the film Outfoxed, which included Moody quotes such as, "The soldiers [seen on Fox in Iraq] in the foreground should be identified as 'sharpshooters,' not 'snipers,' which carries a negative connotation."

Two days after the 2006 election, The Huffington Post reported they had acquired a copy of a leaked internal memo from Mr. Moody that recommended: "…[L]et's be on the lookout for any statements from the Iraqi insurgents, who must be thrilled at the prospect of a Dem-controlled congress." Within hours of the memo's publication, Fox News anchor Martha McCallum, went on-air on the program The Live Desk with reports of Iraqi insurgents cheering the firing of Donald Rumsfeld and the results of the 2006 congressional election.^[74][75]

[edit] Bill Sammon e-mails

In December 2010, Media Matters for America released a leaked October 2009 e-mail between Fox News Washington managing editor Bill Sammon and the network's senior producers, which seemed to issue directives slanting Fox News' coverage of President Barack Obama's health care reform efforts. In the e-mail, Sammon instructed producers to not use the phrase "public option" when discussing a key measure of President Obama's reform bill, and instead use the terms "government option" or "government-run health insurance", noting negative connotations; Sammon also suggested that the qualifier "so-called" be said before any proper mention of the public option. Another e-mail by Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente accepted Sammon's conditions. Critics claimed that Sammon took advice from Republican pollster Frank Luntz, who appeared on Hannity shortly before the e-mail was written and made the same suggestions in identifying the public option. Critics also noticed that reporters and panelists on Special Report with Bret Baier used the term "public option" before the e-mail was sent, but used the term "government option" immediately afterwards. Sammon, in an interview with Howard Kurtz for The Daily Beast, defended the directive and denied he was trying to skew Fox News' coverage.^[76]

Later that month, Media Matters released an e-mail by Sammon from December 2009, in which he pressured Fox News reporters to include the views of climate change skeptics in light of the Climategate controversy.^[77][78]

Not even close to the world record, Obama has a number than never be equaled. Too bad your source is an opinion page author who is totally far left. Try finding real sources!

Would you mind laying some of them out for us? WITH substantive FACTS please. You seem to be deriding the poster for their use of an opinion page as their reference (which I don't agree with either, but the facts in the opinion are dead on) so I would think that you will quite easily quantify your comments with "real sources", as you put it. Thanks and I know you'll have those for us immediately!

Dal-- You are blind to the truth. Number one a Fox News contributor wrote a letter. Number two Sally is the one who is telling half truths. At least Fox let her have her opinion which is more then all the other Media. To me the campaign speech Obama gave in Janesville was a promise even though the bias media says no. Obama knew the plant was scheduled for closure when he made this speech but made these comments. Now if I were and employee at that plant I would think Obama was going to save my job.

"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your president."

That's a statement of belief that, with government help, the Janesville plant could remain open -- but not a promise to keep it open.

Seifert also referred us to Brendan Buck, a spokesman for the Romney-Ryan campaign. Buck cited a Detroit News article on the same speech, saying the article made clear that "it was the takeaway from the event that (Obama) was pledging to keep the plant open if he got his bailout."

The Repubs. on here don't have real sources. Us democrats can pretty much just go and post the Republican bills on here, and post links to Republican speeches. They have no facts just propaganda. I like listening to Michael Steele talk, because he laughs every time he tries to defend a Republican. I think that the former chairman is going to vote for Obama, because he sees what has become of today's Republican party. The party of "No!".....to everything, even their own ideas, because Obama wanted to put them in his bills.

Fox news only reports opinions, so no one should have an issue with Dal posting an opinion article from Fox. Then again, when Fox's lawyers have to evoke their first amendment rights to justify why they forced an anchor woman to report a lie, maybe opinions are more credible than Fox.

Heres a little somthing I found on Foxes web site

Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words

By Sally Kohn

Published
August 30, 2012

FoxNews.com

1. Dazzling

At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul
Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him
view him favorably.

So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself
and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the
speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan
talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end
of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and
enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been
desperately lacking in this campaign.

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying
much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect
Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of
guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play
soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have
done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney
has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized
himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.

2. Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of
attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world
record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped
into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran
the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely
created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that
media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that
flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain
arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United
States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was
actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down
of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under
President George W. Bush. Ryan
actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has
criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to
prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to
give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what
the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking
$716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in
Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients
out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget
plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record
in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get
away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to
care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should
be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but
sadly, there were many.

3. Distracting

And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.

Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all
abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch
with 75% of American voters.

Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social
Security to Wall Street.

Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending
and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.

Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate
programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut
taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase
—the deficit.

These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to
say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and
explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan
airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.

At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used
to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem,
or you can be part of the solution."

Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability
problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic
facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a
much larger problem for himself and his running mate.

Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributor and writer.

Why?---You are a day late and a dollar short. that has been posted several time already and rebuttals written. Just like NBC she put a spin on the real truth but I guess it was read only in the light you required it to be.

Thanks Will - You kept me from going into a rant about how liberals can spin the truth until it is unrecognisable.

FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!

Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz254c4EVOK

Larry,

You detest PRESIDENT OBAMA so much, that you are willing to settle for pathalogical liers..Your hatred is ill placed

Funny how Romney and Ryan lies to Larry's face and he will smile and take it

dal you must have a smile on your face 24/7 with all the Obama campaign lies. I won't smile..I will vote to have new solutions rather than Obama's deficit for years till China cuts off the loans! But I really laugh at his new idea to cut healthcare costs, make gas prices high enough that people can't afford to drive to see a doctor!

Helmetbreaker~~Those lies have your brain fried! Keep listening to them at your own detriment.

Larry you're not too bright.

Heres a little somthing I found on Foxes web site

Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words

By Sally Kohn

Published
August 30, 2012

FoxNews.com

1. Dazzling

At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul
Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him
view him favorably.

So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself
and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the
speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan
talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end
of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and
enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been
desperately lacking in this campaign.

To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying
much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect
Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of
guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play
soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have
done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney
has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized
himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.

2. Deceiving

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of
attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world
record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped
into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran
the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely
created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that
media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that
flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain
arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United
States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was
actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down
of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under
President George W. Bush. Ryan
actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has
criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to
prevent other plants from closing.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to
give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what
the president said. Period.

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking
$716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in
Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients
out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget
plan.

Elections should be about competing based on your record
in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get
away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to
care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should
be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but
sadly, there were many.

3. Distracting

And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.

Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all
abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch
with 75% of American voters.

Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social
Security to Wall Street.

Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending
and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.

Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate
programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut
taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase
—the deficit.

These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to
say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and
explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan
airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.

At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used
to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem,
or you can be part of the solution."

Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability
problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic
facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a
much larger problem for himself and his running mate.

Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributor and writer.

What Republicans Say:

Chris Christie - On Aug 28, 2012 Tampa, used the word "Truth" 16 Times in his keynote speech at the RNC convention. And he specifically said this…

• We have a nominee who will tell us the truth and will lead with conviction. And now he has a running mate who will do the same.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/28/transcript-chris-christie-speech-at-republican-national-convention/#ixzz259Pc6lKX

What Republicans Do:

Romney pollster Neil Newhouse stated: "We're not going [to] let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers." ... on the same day as Christie's speech, during an ABC News/Yahoo! News event at the RNC Convention. ABCNews.com

Then Paul Ryan Spoke:

and Fox News contributor Sally Kohn had this to say about Paul Ryan's convention speech on August 29th, 2012

• … anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan's speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz254a2euWo

• Republicans SAY ONE THING and DO ANOTHER.
• How can anyone TRUST a Republican?

The Repugs are the pathological liars in the room. Trouble is, they can't spell pathological nor do they understand it. Think it has to do with biiology labs and petrie dishes.

Gas prices were higher under Bush. A man as dumb as you is too stupid to put on his own pants, so my question for you is, who puts on your pants? (Maybe you could get a job if you were actually informed - companies are looking for people, not sheep. Baah, baah, baah.)

Romney is OWNED BY KOCH BROTHERS oil barons. LOL. Gas prices will skyrocket

Jack, take your head out of the sand and get educated. You are making statements that only show your ignorance as to what is really going on in this country. The housing market is finally making a strong comeback, gas prices cannot be blamed on Obama, that is called speculation. Blame that crap on Wall St. They are like a bunch of bookies who make bets on what fuel prices will do in the near and distant future. And if you were really interested in being educated and informed you would actually read the article that you are so moronically commenting on.

Oh, seriously, jack and Helmet just need to go pick up their paychecks. You hit the talking points nicely...lol.

I guess the fact that the Republicans made a pact ON DAY ONE to go against ANYTHING that the President was for means nothing to you?! How could anyone make things happen with those type of Obstructionist. BUT, even with their obstructionism, he was still able to get a great deal done! Imagine how much better our Country would be if they hadn't! Please don't try to make us believe that you once were FOR Mr Obama, because if you WERE you would be incensed at the way the Republicans have stopped what YOU obviously wanted to happen happen! Also, you would have enough curiosity to find out the TRUTH! BTW-this is SOME of what the POTUS did, even WITH the Party of NO going against EVERYTHING he was for: Now don't just look at the different subjects, go a step further and look at the "REF" (references) that substantiate the claims. If you can go through even 1/3 of the categories and come back and STILL say that Obama is over his head, well...

For those who detest Obama because of GAS PRICES--NEWSFLASH! The American presidency has nothing to do with the price of gas. We import most of our gas. On the other hand, Obama has opened up more land to oil drilling than Bush did, so where are you really coming from?

Gas is a global commodity. We're competing with other nations to buy gas that's in finite supply. China now demands more and more gas, as its almost 4 billion people enter middle class. This is the law of supply and demand. In fact, our gas prices are artificially low because our government subsidizes Big Oil--they don't need it. We should be paying $14 per gallon.

If we were, we'd soon have far better batteries than lithium-ion for cars, and far better public transportation. The oil and gas way of life must fail--we all know supplies are dwindling.

Big Oil is buying all the patents on new, clean energy so nobody can use them. But you know what? If we don't plan like, yesterday, for the end of oil and gas, our entire civilization will shut down cold when it occurs--as it must.

So why are you all sticking your heads in the sand on this? We're supposed to be the innovators, the inventors--why are you stopping us and making us fall behind all other countries??

jack - one lie is enough - you never voted for Obama so just shut up

• Republicans Can't TRUST Republicans

Tampa, Aug 30, 2012: at a fundraiser during the Republican National Convention, GOP strategist Karl Rove said, "We should sink Todd Akin," and followed that by stating, "If he's found mysteriously murdered, don't look for my whereabouts!"

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/todd-akins-office-disturbed-by-karl-roves-joke/

Karl Rove, GOP/Republican strategist

Todd Akin, GOP/Republican Congressman, candidate for U.S. Senator of Missouri

• How can anyone TRUST a Republican, including a Republican?
• Watch your BACKS Republicans, there might be a Republican behind you!

Dee Turner

For those who detest Obama because of GAS PRICES--NEWSFLASH! The American presidency has nothing to do with the price of gas.

Will you do me a favor and explain that to Nancy Pelosi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFl6bxxDW3c

"I like many others were fooled".......yep there is today's modern GOP voter.

Last May, in a much-touted speech in Iowa, Romney used language that was literally inflammatory to describe America's federal borrowing. "A prairie fire of debt is sweeping across Iowa and our nation," he declared. "Every day we fail to act, that fire gets closer to the homes and children we love." Our collective debt is no ordinary problem: According to Mitt, it's going to burn our children alive.

And this is where we get to the hypocrisy at the heart of Mitt Romney. Everyone knows that he is fantastically rich, having scored great success, the legend goes, as a "turnaround specialist," a shrewd financial operator who revived moribund companies as a high-priced consultant for a storied Wall Street private equity firm. But what most voters don't know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America's top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.

By making debt the centerpiece of his campaign, Romney was making a calculated bluff of historic dimensions – placing a massive all-in bet on the rank incompetence of the American press corps. The result has been a brilliant comedy: A man makes a $250 million fortune loading up companies with debt and then extracting million-dollar fees from those same companies, in exchange for the generous service of telling them who needs to be fired in order to finance the debt payments he saddled them with in the first place. That same man then runs for president riding an image of children roasting on flames of debt, choosing as his running mate perhaps the only politician in America more pompous and self-righteous on the subject of the evils of borrowed money than the candidate himself. If Romney pulls off this whopper, you'll have to tip your hat to him: No one in history has ever successfully run for president riding this big of a lie. It's almost enough to make you think he really is qualified for the White House.

The unlikeliness of Romney's gambit isn't simply a reflection of his own artlessly unapologetic mindset – it stands as an emblem for the resiliency of the entire sociopathic Wall Street set he represents. Four years ago, the Mitt Romneys of the world nearly destroyed the global economy with their greed, shortsightedness and – most notably – wildly irresponsible use of debt in pursuit of personal profit. The sight was so disgusting that people everywhere were ready to drop an H-bomb on Lower Manhattan and bayonet the survivors. But today that same insane greed ethos, that same belief in the lunatic pursuit of instant borrowed millions – it's dusted itself off, it's had a shave and a shoeshine, and it's back out there running for president.

Mitt Romney, it turns out, is the perfect frontman for Wall Street's greed revolution. He's not a two-bit, shifty-eyed huckster like Lloyd Blankfein. He's not a sighing, eye-rolling, arrogant jerkwad like Jamie Dimon. But Mitt believes the same things those guys believe: He's been right with them on the front lines of the financialization revolution, a decades-long campaign in which the old, simple, let's-make-stuff-and-sell-it manufacturing economy was replaced with a new, highly complex, let's-take-stuff-and-trash-it financial economy. Instead of cars and airplanes, we built swaps, CDOs and other toxic financial products. Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note. The new borrow-and-conquer economy was morally sanctified by an almost religious faith in the grossly euphemistic concept of "creative destruction," and amounted to a total abdication of collective responsibility by America's rich, whose new thing was making assloads of money in ever-shorter campaigns of economic conquest, sending the proceeds offshore, and shrugging as the great towns and factories their parents and grandparents built were shuttered and boarded up, crushed by a true prairie fire of debt.

Mitt Romney – a man whose own father built cars and nurtured communities, and was one of the old-school industrial anachronisms pushed aside by the new generation's wealth grab – has emerged now to sell this make-nothing, take-everything, screw-everyone ethos to the world. He's Gordon Gekko, but a new and improved version, with better PR – and a bigger goal. A takeover artist all his life, Romney is now trying to take over America itself. And if his own history is any guide, we'll all end up paying for the acquisition.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829#ixzz25NYuDQYM

In 2002, Goldman Sachs, along with two private equity firms, TGP and ... hmmm ... Bain Capital, teamed up to buy Burger King. This is exactly the kind of situation private equity firms like to trumpet: taking over a downtrodden company and nursing it back to health. And to get them their due, Burger King’s new owners did some good, stabilizing both the company and the franchisees, many of whom were in worse shape than Burger King itself.

But the private equity investors also cut themselves an incredibly sweet deal. Their $1.5 billion purchase price included only $210 million of their own money; the rest was borrowed. They immediately began taking out tens of millions of dollars in fees. Four years later, they took Burger King public. But, first, they rewarded themselves with a $448 million dividend. In all, according to The Wall Street Journal, “the firms received $511 million in dividend, fees, expense reimbursements and interest” — while still retaining a 76 percent stake.

Does it need to be said that Burger King was soon back to its old struggling self? Or that the solution, once again, was to sell to another private equity firm? Of course not! In 2010, Bain, Goldman and TPG cashed out, selling Burger King to 3G Capital, for $3.3 billion. In sum, the original private equity troika reaped a fortune by selling a company that was in nearly as much trouble as it had been when they first bought it. Surely this represents the apotheosis of financial engineering.

What has 3G done? According to Howard Penney, the managing director at Hedgeye, it has prettied up the pig by laying off a large percentage of the staff in Burger King’s Miami headquarters. Burger King’s owners grew earnings, he said, “by cutting expenses. They have not improved the business one iota.” And, of course, 3G pulled out fees and dividends, too. In all, Penney wrote recently, private equity firms have taken for themselves “$1 billion or more in capital that could have been used to improve the company’s relative standing versus its competitors, many of whom Burger King struggles to keep up with.”

Dee: The first part of your statement is true the last is not. Tax breaks given to big oil doesn't lower the price of gas it only increases the bottom line.

Gas is a global commodity. We're competing with other nations to buy gas that's in finite supply. China now demands more and more gas, as its almost 4 billion people enter middle class. This is the law of supply and demand. In fact, our gas prices are artificially low because our government subsidizes Big Oil--they don't need it. We should be paying $14 per gallon.

He "clarified" more remarks today? These d-bag lying Republicans are always having to "clarify" things because they are scum, period. Keep swallowing all that GOP come, you pitiful, moronic little tool.

Rock it, Bruce!!! Awesome!

TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS!

O&Joe 2012

HelmetBreaker: Stupid moniker. Candidate Obama expressed hope the plant could survive. He didn't promise anything about that one plant.

You can't hear well or read English, so there's no difference for you, I get that.

Yet you have an entire political party hiding its platform and their actual agenda--and that's ok?

Dee, since you are so smart I know you won't have any problem explaining to Nancy Pelosi why presidents have no control over gas prices.

It's called " walking back" or taking back the LIE. They spout the BIG LIE , to a major audience and then take it back or " clarify" it when called on the lie, to a much smaller audience. So therefore the majority heard the lie and not the correction. For instance the RNC audience of millions, walking it back , audience of perhaps 1000's.

If he'd tell the truth to begin with he wouldn't need to clarify. His speech at the convention was probably seen by 50 times as many people as will read his clarification and that's the reason he made claims he knew wasn't true.

Amunaka

Why not tell us how much better off we are after 4 years of Obama. For 2 years he had the house and senate. He gave us the Obamacare TAX. Solendra, on and on are you better off. I see empty malls, high gas prices, closed stores. I woke up, I not voting for him again. I want to feel like an American again. Work hard and reap my rewards, not give them to the govt.

You know our country is screwed when its voters think federal-level governance works like Sim City.

Why won't Obama just lower the taxes and build more industrial zones? It's so simple!

Idiots.

To..jack""""

See what I mean...

Jack,

We are better off. Obama has created over 4 million NET PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS in his 3 1/2 years in office. Already he has created more than Bush. He did this despite the Right filibustering every job bills he has introduced.. We were losing 750,000 jobs per month when Obama took office..Yes, we are doing better..And this is also despite the Right cutting out support to the states which has cause us to lose over 600,000 public sector jobs..Every other Congress has helped States when face with a similiar situation..But, not these fools in the House..We certainly can't let Obama succeed can we? Who cares if the Country and it's people get screwed..We must win the next election, right? You detest me..

Go pick up your troll check, jack. I am better off and so are many people I know. I have a small business and we are better off there, too. You are full of it. And if you want blame shared for things not getting done, how about looking at Congress the Useless? Oh wait, you have an agenda that isn't related to facts.

When a republican said that you are an ignorant @!$%#.

Republicans, especially during this Obama administration, have been voting against their own bills and recommendations. If a democrat agrees with a Republican, then the Republican will vote against it. The Republican leaders made it quite clear that they would do whatever it takes to make Obama a one term president. So, if you Republicans have anyone to blame for where this country is it is your party leaders because they took the lead in screwing this country. They didn't do enough damage while Bush was in the WH, so why not go for broke.........literally. Why not? They are all multimillionaires and none of what the rest of us are going through makes any god damned difference to you people!

• Myth Romney / Lyin' Ryan
• ***** Campaign - 1220 *****
• We Will Bring Back Serfdom

The death gasp of a dying DEMO America Party. Word on the street is obama is finished, No record to run on. No idea how to change it except RAISE TAXES AGAIN.

except that taxes are at a historical low, that all americans have had tax cuts. but facts, we don't need no stinking facts...we are the GOP..party of do nothing, block everything, lead us off the cliff then say why didnt he fix it quick enough.

Still staring up at the fading Obama posters?

"Word on the street" What are you some kinda gangsta? Obama has a record to run on, people such as yourself don't want to see the record of accomplishment because then you would actually have to admit that with the sh!t storm he was given we are lucky that we all aren't being sold off into slavery and being off shored to work in sweat shops in China and elsewhere. Your dear Republican party, if given the chance, will ultimately do just that to us. Those people, and it would seem many on this thread, would sell their mother's soul to the devil. I am ashamed to be in the same country with people that would so easily take food out of a poor child's mouth. You people are disgusting.

Haha...word on the street? What a silly thing to say unless someone is paying you to spread lies and rumors. Are you wandering streets and hearing words? How funny...lol. Tax isn't a dirty word, anyway. It's called revenue and sometimes it's needed. Go try to scare people somewhere else or listen to Fox.

When are you people going to get your act together. First you say Fox is nothing but lies but then you quote an article posted on Fox and worship it like the wandering Jews in the wilderness worshipped the golden calf and then you call them liars.

You liberals don't know whether you are coming or going. Why should we give you any credibility?

I thought he had the answers at least that is what he campaigned on. Obama had no answers, except raise TAXES. We gave him the House and Senate and what did he do shoved Obamacare TAX down our throat. Pass it to find out whats in it, give me a break. No JOBS, NO Housing Market, Gas Prices, Empty Malls. I truely thought he could do it, I WAS WRONG.

You have earned your check, jack. You can go watch Fox again now;)

jack102~~You are now definitely wrong. Obamacare was Romneycare and is a very good needed care, 4.4 million jobs created in 3 years, (more than G Bushs' 8 years, Housing market is rising very nicely after being in freefall the last 2 years of the Bush admin, the president, (including Bush) has no control over gas prices, consumer spending just rose to a 5 month high, the stock market has more than doubled, in Obama admin, (the market was lower when Bush left office than when he started,) If you accept facts, and you really thought he could do it, then you were RIGHT! If you WANT to be WRONG, then just keep denying facts.

The rest of those are questionable but the democrats own the economy and the housing crash. There is no way out of that. I know it just tears you libbies up but it is the truth. But I forgot, libbies can't handle the truth.

Here's some facts for you. The job loss did not start until democrats took over congress. Unemployment is still higher that it was at anytime Bush was in office. Clinton did have a national debt of 5.8 trillion when he turned over the presidency to George W. Bush.

Here's some facts for you. The job loss did not start until democrats took over congress. Unemployment is still higher that it was at anytime Bush was in office. Clinton did have a national debt of 5.8 trillion when he turned over the presidency to George W. Bush.

And here's some facts for you. Revenue under Clinton exceeded expenses. We had zero deficit spending at the end of Clinton's term the remaining debt was carryover from Reagan. We had massive deficit spending under Bush. There's a difference between the deficit and debt. Who controlled congress had nothing to do with our massive spending. All of the increase was due to Bush's initiatives. 1.8 trillion for TARP and stimulus which included 400 billion every year for tax cuts, 300 billion every year for his drug plan and 2 unfunded wars. You can claim congress supported Bush's invasions but it was clearly Bushs wars and he who provided the proof they were justified. The only reason the unemployment rate under Bush didn't reach 10% is because he left office a few months too soon. It was his meltdown and the rate went from under 5% to 7.9% in 6 months and was increasing rapidly. As the economy was still operating on Bush's budget well into 2009 he was responsible.

Romney, pleads the fifth for not showing his taxes!

Obama/Biden when you want your elected leader to tell you to go F**** your self.

@GreatGran-Romney tax records are a red herring what I worry about is how Obama is wasting my tax money of failed green energy but its not really about green energy its about crony capitalism for campaign donations. Give a lot and get a little back is Obama funding plan for re-election.

I too, WAS an independent. However, I now say I will never again, in my entire lifetime, vote for any republican, teapartier, evangelical or conservative. They are all cut from the same cloth, selfish, greedy, liars, haters, and hypocrits

I'm going to check into this because as is common with haters of the Pres., lies are abundant and miss conceptions and turns and twist. You people will say anything but I'll check and get back to you, but I know I'm correct, and all you are acomplishing is what Democrats have know all along, Republicans lie and distort and will say anything to get what they want.

ozzy1957 - how easy it was to prove your statement a lie. Here's the trust. His response to why he didn't wear an American flag pin. "You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest. Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism." (Source: ABC News, Oct. 4, 2007.)

libtards? Hmmm. Why not just go for it Republicans. Step it up to Cootie Monsters.

Wow, a Bush defender. You must be so proud of yourself for defending a man who nearly destroyed this country. I guess you would call yourself a dyed in the wool Republican? I would call you a fool.

When you type "libtards" everything else you say is garbage. Just as calling Republicans names doesn't make Democrats look smarter, calling liberal silly names makes you look as if you have nothing else to say than a name.

AlaskaGirl-759554

Wow, a Bush defender. You must be so proud of yourself for defending a man who nearly destroyed this country. I guess you would call yourself a dyed in the wool Republican? I would call you a fool.

#19.2

It was the sub prime scandal and the unregulated derivaives market. Since you are such a genius why don't you explain how Bush put those policies in place. Bet you can't even if your life depended on it.

I am beginning to suspect all you so called liberals are right wing extremists from the 50s and 60s and want to force your form of "liberalism" down our throats.

AlaskaGirl-759554

It wasn't Bush dummy.

In numerous polls, the public has voiced their displeasure at the much maligned bank bailout, but most don't know which president signed the controversial act into law. Only a third of Americans (34%) correctly say the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted by the Bush administration. Nearly half (47%) incorrectly believe TARP was passed under President Obama. Another 19% admit they do not know which president signed the bank bailout into law. Notably, there is no partisan divide on the question. Just 36% of Republicans, 35% of independents and 34% of Democrats know that the government bailout of banks and financial institutions was signed into law by former President Bush. And Democrats (46%) are just as likely as Republicans (50%) to say TARP was passed under Obama

Wiki? You cannot be serious. Practically anyone can change information on there. Hell, Ryan probably changed the info himself!

@Media Bias2012

Question: What color are your rose colored glasses again? Someone just tried to tell me that they appear to be half feces and half thin air. In your defense, I reminded him that 'feces' is not a color!

AlaskaGirl-759554

Wiki? You cannot be serious. Practically anyone can change information on there. Hell, Ryan probably changed the info himself

#20.1

How about CNN? -

April 23, 2009: The plant's medium-duty assembly line, which produced an Isuzu line, closes, ending vehicle production at the plant and resulting in the loss of 57 production jobs, according to the Gazette.

BTW, CNN rated Ryan's statement Mostly true but incomplete.

Ryans intent was to mislead.

The damage was done by CRA, a Carter/Clinton program humm. The damage was done by Fannie and Freddie, unregulated and protected and to this DAY unregulated and protected by Democrats hummm. The damage was done by sub-prime, not only protected, but PUSHED by Democrats hummm.

Why don't you do a little history check instead of throwing out FILTH please?

Bush warned in 2003, that's two thousand three if there are too many numbers for you to put together, that there WOULD be a financial crisis in this country if Fannie and Freddie weren't regulated. Chris Dodd BLOCKED the legislation in the Senate (since it take sixty votes to pass legislation in the Senate and Republicans have NEVER had sixty votes).

Notice what sixty votes by the Democrats in the Senate resulted in hummm? A "mandate" where for the FIRST TIME in the history of this nation you are being told by the Federal Government to buy a product or be fined. A "health care" program that STOLE over 700 billion dollars from Medicare to pay for it. A program that is going to cost almost 2 TRILLION taxpayer dollars at the latest estimate, but you were told it would NOT cost anything and would actually pay down our debt. A program where the President and EVERY Democrat LIED to the nation and said it was NOT a tax but a fine, and then argued in front of the Supreme Court that it was actually a TAX.

Too bad that Republicans couldn't get any of the MORONS that "represent" the Democratic party to vote for regulation of Fannie and Freddie in 2003. There probably wouldn't NEVER have even been a financial crisis if they had acted then instead of just blaming Bush when they got caught in their own support of FRAUD.

To..Cheryl"""

Ahh No ...on everything...

http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/tag/countrywide/

@CherylLM#23.1: Can't give you a pass on this one. You Sir/Madam are a liar. Fact, you posted more than a bushel of lies in that rather lengthy scribble of claptrap.

Amunaka

To..Amunakal"""

Cheryl is 100 % correct and it can be proven.

@Rick-312779#23.5: You, like Cheryl are a liar.

You like all the Newsvine libbies are full of sheet.

To Cheryl"""

Hilarious...

Poor, misguided Cheryl.... She probably thinks the Repubs are looking out for her best interest. She probably even believes there is such a thing as "Legitimate Rape." Poor Cheryl....

Wow,Cheryl all that and a bag of chips !!

I agree, Randy. Poor, poor, Cheryl.

NOW! WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS, MITT?!!!!! THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 FORWARD!!!!!!

CherylLM

You've had four responses which did not challenge one thing that you said. Sad.

to Cheryl-In his own words: part of ' if the GOVERNMENT is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need", don't you understand? It's obvious that this didnt happen BEFORE he became President..The fact that it closed down a MONTH before he became President is relevant, whether it was a month or a DAY, it was BEFORE he became President. Not sure where you got the article tried to make it sound like it was a year, anyone with intelligence could calculate, Dec 2008 to Jan 2009 equals a month! is CBS an Obama shoe licker too because there are PLENTY more that can be referenced? House and Senate leaders promised to hold votes on the committee's recommendations for budget savings if 14 of the commission's members agreed to the plan. Only 11 members, however, voted in favor of the plan. Ryan was one of the seven who voted against the final report, which would have theoretically cut $4 trillion from the federal budget over a decade. Now if you can REFUTE these FACTS, just say you hate Obama and NOTHING ANYONE could prove to you would make you think any differently! So delusional! I'm sure you're not going to open any of the links, but maybe there is someone sensible that needs to be persuaded that they may help to make a more informed decision!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

None of my links posted! Maybe because I'm a new user and that's one of their restrictions. DARN!!! There was SO MUCH good info! smh

B.S.

@ MJ: If Cheryl is too ignorant or lazy to actually go on a true fact finding mission then that is her problem. I and many others have done our homework. If Cheryl wants to accept as gospel what is spewed out of her t.v. then, again, that is her right, but not my problem. What is sad is you feeling the need to leave your comment.

This from CNN:

April 23, 2009: The plant's medium-duty assembly line, which produced an Isuzu line, closes, ending vehicle production at the plant and resulting in the loss of 57 production jobs, according to the Gazette.

GM then put the plant on standby, meaning it could reactivate the facility if it decides it needs to ramp up production.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-08-30/politics/politics_pol-fact-check-ryan-gm_1_gm-plant-president-obama-barack-obama/2

Looks like even GM may have been led to believe that Obama would save that plant. I guess they should have known better since that plant was in the home town of a republican representative.

You seem to be suffering from a severe case of hoof and mouth disease. You can't keep your hoof out of your mouth. lol

Cheryl: If your quote is accurate and i assume it is Obama didn't promise the plant would remain for 100 years but would do so only if the government which was under Bush at the time offered the support it needed. Bush's failure to give the support it needed caused the loss of these jobs. Thanks for clarifying. I thought Obama offered a guarantee the plant would remain for 100 years and clearly he only said if government offered the support it needed. Your quote just clarifies another distortion from the right.

What Obama said was "I believe if the GOVERNMENT is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need.....this plant will be here for another hundred years. I want it to thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States. I want it to thrive RIGHT HERE IN WISCONSIN...And that's the future I'll fight for as YOUR President

Brent, you are right. We short changed Ryan. He's a Demon who lies.

He's an Ayn Rand disciple, what do you expect? He showed in his speech last night just how devout he is in his belief of her philosophy.

I love Mitt Romney. I wish he picked another V.P but he had to pick someone to please the conservative base. I will not be voting for Obama again because he turned out to be a total bust!

Yeah, I do believe that Romney would see to it that unemployment went down. He'd also make sure that all water supplies near Natural gas reserves are polluted, the air downwind of coal power plants would be unbreathable. Most of the endangered species would go extinct & all of the coastal cities on the planet would be submerged under 50' of water, but that's ok. At least we'd all have jobs - well at least those of us who don't need to breath. Anyway, all the really important people can just buy condo's in Antarctica...

OneVoice-664990

When did you and the rest of the liberals stop using electricity? When did you all park your cars? When did you stop farting methane into the air and breathing CO2 into the atmosphere?

Obamas tax pledge began, "under my plan" which clearly was referencing his tax plan. As he was campaigning on adding a $1 a pack cigarette tax and most smokers earn less clearly he was only talking about who would be affected by his income tax proposal. Just another right wing distortion.

Under his income tax plan only those making over 250K a year would see any increase. That's true.