Tension between Romney and conservative stalwarts resurfaces

 

Latent conservative trepidation toward Mitt Romney has resurfaced to a degree in recent days as it relates to the presumptive GOP nominee's search for a running mate and renewed defense of health reform in Massachusetts.

Prominent voices on the right have begun urging Romney to settle on a "bold" choice as his running mate, specifically Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan, the author of an ambitious budget proposal that has made him a darling among conservatives.

Jessica Rinaldi / Reuters

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney waves to people gathered across the street as he leaves a finance event Aug. 9 in New York.

Separately, the campaign is weathering a minor conservative uproar associated with a spokeswoman's response to a critical ad from a pro-Obama super PAC that suggested Romney was indirectly responsible for a woman's cancer death because her husband lost his insurance after his Bain-owned employer laid him off.

The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd and Charlie Cook join a Morning Joe panel to discuss who Mitt Romney will pick as his running mate.

"To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care," the spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, said Wednesday on Fox News in reference to the health reform law Massachusetts enacted while Romney was governor.

The comment earned an immediate rebuke from activist conservatives who had expressed concern about Romney's ability to argue the case against President Obama's health care law because of its similarities to the Massachusetts reforms.

RedState's Erick Erickson said it was "the moment all the doubts about Romney resurfaced on the right," while conservative columnist Ann Coulter called for the spokeswoman's firing.

"It takes a Republican candidate who's willing to put the fists out there and fight back hard. The response, for example, to this lying, smearing super PAC ad accusing Romney of a murder is not to talk about Romneycare," Michelle Malkin said Wednesday evening on Fox News. "It's to talk about the Obama jobs death toll and the Beltway jobs massacre and the thousands of real workers out there who have had their pensions and health care stripped."

It underscored the tenuous relationship Romney has had with his party's stalwarts, whom he struggled to charm throughout the Republican primary earlier this year.

While Republicans have largely rallied around Romney, his relationship with the right seems to be mostly a marriage of convenience -- one in which Romney represents the best, if imperfect, chance to defeat President Barack Obama in November.

To that end, the June NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll contained a telling statistic: 58 percent of registered voters who said they planned to vote for Romney said their vote was more about voting against Obama. Thirty-five percent said their vote was mostly in favor of Romney.

It's also emblematic of the current split within the GOP between activists who favor a more strongly ideological approach and those who wish to wed political strategy with policy goals. Romney, to many conservatives, firmly represents the latter approach.

 

That sentiment has manifested itself in some conservatives' demand that Romney put forth a more digestible jobs plan, or use more aggressive rhetoric toward Obama. It's also contributed to a growing drumbeat in favor of putting Ryan on the GOP ticket.

 

"Romney has to carry the argument to President Barack Obama. The state of the economy alone isn’t enough to convince people that Romney has better ideas to create jobs. Neither is his résumé," National Review editor Rich Lowry wrote Wednesday in Politico. "Romney needs to make the case for his program, and perhaps no one is better suited to contribute to this effort than Ryan."

 

Agitation in favor of someone like New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie points toward the same sentiment, too. Some conservatives are looking for a pick that would plainly and forcefully make the case for an alternative conservative vision to Obama's.

 

It's one of the reasons that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker emerged as such a hero to Republicans. His collective-bargaining reforms in Wisconsin were nothing short of audacious, but he survived a recall effort with even more political capital. And now Walker, and other policy gurus like Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, have in recent months pressed Romney to offer a more affirmative policy agenda.

 

Whether Romney can quell this eternal tension on the right is a question that might never have an answer. He has shown the capacity, though, to rally the GOP behind his candidacy in certain instances. It might just be that the most unifying element on the right stems from attacks from Obama or negative media coverage.

 

The original Priorities USA ad, for instance, has done almost as much to unite appalled conservatives as anything else the former Massachusetts governor's campaign has done.

 

Look no further for evidence than this morning's Republican National Committee conference call in which Romney's primary campaign nemesis, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, declined to relitigate his primary campaign criticism of Romney as the worst possible candidate to take on Obama on the issue of health care.

 

"You talk about contempt? That was a contemptible ad. The facts clearly do not support what that ad was all about," Santorum said.

 

"All I can say is Gov. Romney is going to be a far superior candidate on the issue of health care than Barack Obama," Santorum added. "The differences between Gov. Romney and me in the primary really fall to the wayside when it comes to differences between the Republican nominee, Gov. Romney, and Barack Obama."

 

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Willard's own base doesn't even trust him?

Why should we?

I thought Ann Coulters head was going to do a 360 degree spin last night! lmao!

Herman & Eddie Munster 2012!!

Woofie for Secretary of State!

  • 118 votes
#1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

Ann Coulter – If Chris Christy doesn't run we'll nominate Romney and we'll lose

  • 74 votes
#1.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

Well, Dennis, a clock IS RIGHT twice a day! LOL

  • 42 votes
#1.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

Willard & Crispy Cream. Free NJ

Obama 2012

  • 68 votes
#1.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

Dennis, watching Ann Coulter last night, I believe she knows her prophetic statement is more than hubris.

You're right on Feisty, her head was spinning and she was apoplectic......shades of Linda Blair!!!

  • 84 votes
#1.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

phinephancy-4252115

Hi Phine

Hope you are doing well and beating your health issues to a pulp!!

Always enjoy your comments. Keep them coming!!

  • 18 votes
#1.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

Mitt Romney has promised the tea party that he will "dismantle" the health care reform of President Obama, while at the same time his campaign manager is telling everybody that people would not have died if they lived in Mass., where he created the health care reform.

The man is at odds with himself. Mitt Romney is Mit Romney's worst enemy.

  • 79 votes
#1.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarUAW PleeeeeeeeaseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No matter what Romney says or does he is going to get 99.9% of the conservative vote just like Obama will get 99.9% of the black vote. Obamacare is just one reason we need a better president. The rest of the country knows we need better leadership in Washington for a host of other reasons. Romney will appeal to anyone voting who has commonsense. ROMNEY 2012!

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

The entire GOP needs to get its house in order.

They either need to chase all the extremists out of the party.

Or just cede control over to the extremists and go form another more moderate conservative party.

.

  • 61 votes
#1.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

Reb,

A little disappointed today. Found out the chemo isn't working. :(

  • 20 votes
#1.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:38 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbayllieExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Willard's own base doesn't even trust him?

does that surprise you???

here is an awsome video of the Holy-Flip-Flop King:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

This is why "his" base don't trust him!

  • 42 votes
#1.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

No matter what Romney says or does he is going to get 99.9% of the conservative vote

Mitt Romney is the WORST possible choice. Nobody knows what he stands for, and he is interested in working only for the rich. All the other people that vote for him and are not rich are cutting their own legs.

  • 58 votes
#1.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

Phine....sorry to hear the chemo is not doing its job, I hope they can find something else to help. Hang in there it is good to see you post and with a sense of humor....hold on to it.

Best wishes!

  • 46 votes
#1.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

shades of Linda Blair!!!

I believe they had to do some major editing to take out those multiple 360s her head was doing. That being said, it is rather funny to see Romney take it from all sides. The extreme right conservatives are beating him to a pulp, demanding he take on the tea party darjeeling sweetheart Ryan, since Romney doesn't even come close to their values. Then you have the moderate republicans wanting T-Paw, because Romney doesn't come close to their values. Then we have leading republican politicans begging Romney to just release his tax returns, so the issue can be taken off the table. And now we have Coulter, Ericson, and Limbaugh demanding he fire his campaign staff for yet another major gaffe. And that is just the internal attacks.

Must suck to be a Romneybot these days with his many, messy, RomneyShamble scandals.

  • 50 votes
#1.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

Seriously, when Coulter did her thing, I was concerned that she would have a seizure. Long term amphetamine use looks exactly like Coulter- underweight, extreme agitation, pressured, paranod angry rants.

When she told Hannity that his show only exists to elect Republicans, and he agreed, I was impressed- she's so far gone, she has short circuited her "Faux news is balanced" chip.

Speaking of bizarre, "Prettybot" Andrea Saul's performance was like watching a ScFi show where the robots finally revolt against the masters- her programming has failed, and she now goes "rogue", speaking truth as a sentient being.

I think Sauls' Repub career is over.

  • 50 votes
#1.14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

UnitedStates1776

The entire GOP needs to get its house in order.

They either need to chase all the extremists out of the party.

Or just cede control over to the extremists and go form another more moderate conservative party

They already have. The extremists now call themselves Tea Party and Republicans; the moderates call themselves Independents.

  • 27 votes
#1.15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAtticusRulesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The conservatives do it every time. They bicker among themselves instead of standing behind their candidate and helping him get elected. Are they really so ignorant as to think that Obama is going to align himself better with their ultraconservative ideology than the Republican candidate?

Those of you who accuse Romney of flip-flopping should take a good look at Obama's policies as stated during the 2008 campaign and as actually put into effect after he was elected. He promised to have a transparent government, but started claiming executive privilege on nearly everything within months of his inauguration. He promise to end the wars in the Middle East, but they are still humming along nearly four years later. The list goes on and on.

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

This is why "his" base don't trust him!

OMG Bayllie!

Thanks for sharing!

How appropriate! lol

  • 27 votes
#1.17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

The rest of the country is finding out what many in the GOP have been saying from day one, Romney is not really an ultraconservative. He may be a RWNJ, but he truly isn't that conservative.

Once he has the votes in hand and has the parties nomination, the mask can come off.

Mitt Romney, as the party nominee, will automatically get all of the votes of every die hard Teavangelical Republican. His problem is, he needs to get the votes of the moderates, the independents and the fiscally conservative, socially liberal and any democrats. The current GOP is chasing away the moderates and the socially liberal. The GOP really think that you can't believe someone should have the right to good health care and believe in a balanced budget at the same time. To them, the concepts of social justice and fiscal responsibility can't exist in the same government.

  • 26 votes
#1.18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

OMG Bayllie!

Thanks for sharing!

How appropriate! lol

I know huh? and what's sad is that back in 1994, Romney actually looked and talked like a human being! Fast forward to 2012, and Romney looks and talks like a cyborg.

  • 32 votes
#1.19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

Romney looks and talks like a cyborg.

Pull the sting on his back and he'll spew whatever you want to hear! ☺

  • 33 votes
#1.20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

WCA -

No matter what Romney says or does he is going to get 99.9% of the conservative vote just like Obama will get 99.9% of the black vote.

WOW. How can you defend that statement? Do you really take such a simplistic view of "black voters" that you think they will vote for President Obama only because he is "black"?

I think that although his race increases enthusiasm and voter turnout among black voters, they will still only vote for a candidate if they agree with a majority of his positions.

I personally think there are more people who will NOT vote for President Obama because of his race than there are those who will vote for him ONLY because of his race.

  • 26 votes
#1.21 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

LoL -- Paul Ryan as the "bold choice."

Lordy, lordy.

http://www.wpri.org/WIInterest/Vol19No2/Schneider19.2.html

How bold is it for conservatives to present a VP candidate who wants to replace Medicare with inadequate vouchers, while his own grandmother needed social services -- i.e., Medicare, Medicaid -- to treat her Alzheimer's disease.

Just how much Alzheimers care do you suppose you can buy with a voucher, when there is no promise that pre-existing conditions will be covered? And without Obamacare, what will stop insurers from dropping coverage for customers who develop expensive and debilitating diseases like Alzheimers?

And when is someone in the media going to ask this little weasel about that?

How bold is it for conservatives to present a VP candidate who wants to cut Pell grants for college students, but who financed his own college education with his father's Social Security?

Or have we at last come to the true Republican agenda of "exceptionalism" -- no longer will every person who qualifies be able to get a college degree, like Ryan did, with government help, if necessary?

And when is someone in the media going to ask this little weasel about THAT?

Chuck Todd, what the heck are you doing? This kind of information is not that hard to find.

Ryan is a one-note candidate, who has absolutely no knowledge of or experience in foreign policy, education, climate change, or any of the larger substantive issues of our time. Picture Ryan leading this country in a crisis like September 11.

Yeah, I know. Been there, done that.

Ryan is nothing but a third-rate number cruncher who proposes to destroy everything we hold dear and STILL can't balance the budget for another 30 years or so.

What else does he have to offer that we would even think of considering him for the office of Vice President? I guess his main qualification is that he is NOT Sarah Palin.

And when is someone in the media going to ask the little weasel about THAT?

And by the way, being from Wisconsin, just one Congressional district to the north and west of Ryan's, I really hope Romney takes him.

  • 38 votes
#1.22 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

YES YES YES, Paul Ryan, Yes! Not as much fun as Palin, but just as deadly to the ticket.

You wanna see some heads spin? Just wait until the AARP hears that Ryan is going to be the VP nominee. Wooooeeeee.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 40 votes
#1.23 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

Phinephancy, Best of luck to you.

  • 23 votes
#1.24 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:49 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Pat Buchanan could not be more right. His words below.....

This week, the friends of Barack Obama introduced into the political battle of 2012 the moral equivalent of poison gas.

In an ad produced by the super PAC Priorities USA, Mitt Romney is charged with moral, if not material, complicity in the cancer death of the wife of a Missouri steelworker.

Speaking straight into the camera, Joe Soptic, 62, charges Romney with coldly shutting down the plant where he worked and cutting off his health insurance. This, says Soptic, left his wife without insurance to pay for her care, until, falling ill, she went to a doctor, who discovered stage 4 cancer, which killed her in 22 days.

Soptic implies a causal connection between Romney’s decision to shut the plant and his wife’s death. The ad is a premeditated attempt to murder the reputation of Mitt Romney. And from start to finish, it is a deception.

The truth.

Mitt Romney gave up leadership of Bain Capital in 1999. The steel plant was closed in 2001. Soptic lost his health insurance, but his wife was still working and had hers. She lost her job and insurance in 2003. Her illness and cancer were discovered in 2006, when Romney was ending his fourth year as governor of Massachusetts.

Was this ad the work of a rogue super PAC over which the Obama campaign had no control? Did the White House denounce the ad as unethical and malicious and wash its hands of it?

By no means. The White House, through its cynical silence, has been complicit in this moral atrocity as it reaps the benefits of it.

As for Soptic, he has been a collaborator of the Obama campaign itself, featured in a campaign ad and a conference call with reporters last May. What this smells like is a secret handoff from the Obama campaign to the Obama super PAC, which would be a violation of law.

While many journalists have denounced the ad as duplicitous and slanderous, some have hailed it. Unconcerned with its falsity, they love its message. For it mirrors what they themselves think of Mitt.

One wonders: Has the president given any thought to how he is to unite and lead the country should he win, given the character of the campaign he and his team have waged?

For a year now, the daily picture of Barack Obama most of us see is of a president heading for his helicopter for yet another rally to denounce Republicans as tea-party obstructionists and Mitt Romney as an outsourcer and a tax dodger.

A week ago, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that a confidant had informed him that Romney paid no income taxes for 10 years. Harry repeated this accusation on the floor.

Instead of denouncing this sleazy tactic – a charge with no substance and without an identifiable source – the Obama chorus echoed Harry: Show us the last 10 years of your tax returns.

Are these not the same politicians and media who denounced as vicious wackos any who dared to ask to see Obama’s birth certificate or the transcript from his college days at Columbia?

Assume, for the sake of argument, that these tactics work, that Obama wins re-election and that he and Harry hold the Senate.

How do they govern?

Mr. Hope and Change, the figure who once inspired millions, died a long time ago. In his stead stands a Chicago pol who barnstorms the country calling Republicans political lap dogs of millionaires and billionaires who refuse to pay their fair share of taxes.

In this campaign, Obama has steadily diminished both himself and the office he holds. Remarkable what a fear of defeat and a loss of power can do to a man.

How – after you stand cynically silent while your super PAC mongrels accused Romney of throwing the Soptic family out on the street, stripping them of health care and then letting the wife die of cancer – do you then reach out to your defeated rival?

The presidency is uniquely a place of moral leadership, said Harry Truman, a “bully pulpit,” said Theodore Roosevelt.

How, after the long, low and miserable campaign he and his crowd have conducted, does Obama ascend that pulpit again without being laughed at and hooted at until he stands down?

How does he resolve the fiscal crisis looming at year’s end?

Obama says he rather would not extend any of the Bush tax cuts than extend all of them. The Republican House will give him all or nothing. Yet if Obama wins and lets all of the tax cuts expire, he will need the cooperation of a Republican House and perhaps a Republican Senate to restore the cuts for those earning less than $200,000.

Obama will have to have the cooperation of a Republican House and perhaps a Republican Senate for any budget compromise to bring an end to his debilitating string of five straight trillion-dollar deficits.

Having accomplished nothing in the past two years, how would Obama accomplish anything in the next four after such a campaign?

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

If he picks Ryan it's all over, he is close now but he will fall apart due to the Ryan plan, there are a hell of a lot of old folks out there that will kick Romney to the curb in a heart beat if he selects Ryan, us Democrats would love that selection it would be a walk in the park for Obama. <<<< OBAMA 2012 >>>>

  • 23 votes
#1.26 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

Brockton Barlow

Mitt Romney gave up leadership of Bain Capital in 1999.

I don't know many CEOs/Presidents that abandon their companies for 3 years...

Even a former Bain Capital partner, Edward Conard, acknowledged that Mitt Romney "legally" remained the head of the private equity firm until 2002, contradicting Romney's claims that he left the company in February 1999.

“Mitt’s names were on the documents as the chief executive and sole owner of the company," Conard said. Conard served as managing director of the firm from 1993 to 2007.

A corporate document filed with the state of Massachusetts in December 2002 -- a month after Romney was elected governor -- lists him as one of two managing members of Bain Capital Investors, LLC "authorized to execute, acknowledge, deliver and record any recordable instrument purporting to affect an interest in real property, whether to be recorded with a Registry of Deeds or with a District Office of the Land Court."

so who is lying Brockton????

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Bain2002.pdf

  • 26 votes
#1.27 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

The Tea Party is not one centralized organization, with many offshoots that have been further hijacked by religious fundamentalists (Teavangerlicals), however in listening to Matt Kibbe of Freedomworks, I thought he was more sane than leaders in the House like Batcrap Bachmann.

Obviously Teabagger obstructionism and even anarchy, or what they call a Hostile Takeover is unacceptable on any level within a constitutional democracy. And Kibbe still seems to derive pleasure from anarchy, however he does not believe trust fund entitlements like Social Security and Medicare should be cut. Rather he believes these programs need to be reformed.

That's far better than Paul Ryan who wants to end these programs over time, starting with vouchers for Medicare. The "reforms" Kibbe supports would need a closer look, but at least he does not favor ending these programs or even cutting the funds. And he favors looking at everything in the budget including defense spending.

Everyone agrees the current system is not sustainable in the long-term when one looks at the budget (with defense at about 20%), and especially with tax revenue in the US way lower than other industrialized countries. The point is there are other ways to get deficits and trust fund entitlements under control WITHOUT resorting to Paul Ryan's immoral extremism.

If more rightwingers like Kibbe can start a conversation that isn't insane like Paul Ryan's plan, the Teapublicans might save their arses and still be around in the future. But this "Race to the Bottom" with every man, woman, and child for his/herself, or worse "eating the corn seed" austerity to avoid paying taxes has got to stop.

  • 18 votes
#1.28 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

Feisty... I must confess my sins... I voted for the Mitt when he ran for Governor after the Salt Lake Olympics. The Democrats of Massachusetts had no one and were doing a lot of bickering, and Mitt was being heralded as the savior of the Winter Olympics. Then 8 years, I think it was 8 years, it was a long time, I drove on rutted roads while Mr. Romney dabbled with State finances and finally pushed through his finest achievement, Romneycare which he now disavows.

It is so sad that a man with such obvious talents surrounds himself with right-wing hacks and gets his moral support from fellow oligarchs. What a waste. But true happiness sprang forth when Ann Coulter went apoplectic over a true statement about benefits of universal health care. Why do these people walk backward?

  • 21 votes
#1.29 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

it's 3 a.m. where is Mittens? Under the bed, packing his Ralph Lauren shirts and Tommy Hilfiger pants.

  • 17 votes
#1.30 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

Pshhhh. Obama/Biden 2012!!!!

  • 15 votes
#1.31 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

AtticusRules -- Yeh, whatever.

dirp -- I get what you're saying and agree to a point. Here is what I think would happen if Romney was able to squeak out a victory with voter suppression, etc. --

Romney is proud of himself for what ever he has done in his life, including Romneycare, and this is why he feels entitled to rule the world -- But don't confuse pride of achievements with sincere concern for other people. Romney does not have empathy, which must be developed during childhood, and this did not happen for him.

Romney also lacks his own convictions (common in the Mormon culture), practicing a religion because that's what his parents did, and their parents before them. Being influenced by his mother about a woman's right to choose, but lacking the personal conviction to oppose positions held by the Mormon church or peer pressure in his Party. Romney is weak and lacks the curiosity or critical thinking to question authority, and failed to resolve conflicts in his young adulthood the way the president did. This is why he often says he won't change current law--that would mean having real conviction about something, being an activist, and having the fire in the belly about what he stands for.

The only determination Romney has had is success with money, and now wants success with power. He will do or say anything, and likewise if he managed to be elected, would pander even more to be reelected to a second term. If folks think the flip flop is bad now, a Romney presidency would be schizophrenic and far worse than just having digits to sign what ever Norquist hands him, or the Tea Party demands of him, or if/when there may ever be conflict with his own belief and having the courage to act on it.

This is the first time, except maybe Ross Perot, when we've seen someone persistently pursue the presidency for the title. Fire in the belly means that person is driven by ideals, not just a office because that's the only thing he doesn't already own.

Romney has no depth, no compass, and not even a personality. Haunting.

  • 23 votes
#1.32 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

Phinephancy - I'm sorry to hear your chemo isn't working. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers and hope something else begins to do the trick!

  • 15 votes
#1.33 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

Phinephancy,

I don't know you, nor do I know your political side on this blog, but may I offer you my best wishes for your recovery.

Cancer can be beaten - be positive.

  • 20 votes
#1.34 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

Ditto, Phinephancy. I always love your charm and your wit.

  • 11 votes
#1.35 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Didn't Grover Nordquist say that all the Republican Party needed was a stooge who would sign his name to everything the Republicans have prepared?

They're just running Romney into the ground with super conservative positions that will only make Romney lose more votes.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 17 votes
#1.36 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

Prominent voices on the right have begun urging Romney to settle on a "bold" choice as his running mate, specifically Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan, the author of an ambitious budget proposal that has made him a darling among conservatives.

Of course the ultraconservatives love Paul Ryan and his red-meat "budget;" it accomplishes the goal that they have been trying to accomplish for 80 years: destroy every last remnant of FDR's New Deal. When Roosevelt came out with the New Deal in the Depression-rattled 30s, conservatives accused him of socialism. In 1948, after the Republicans tried and failed to destroy the New Deal by taking out Roosevelt's successor, Harry Truman, the party shifted to the center, starting a 40 year reign of bipartisanship in Washington. In the 1970s, conservatism returned thanks to the stagflation of the time, leading to the election of Reagan and the shift of the Republican Party to the far right. By the 1990s, they went into hyperspeed, leading to the Tea Party Revolution. A whole generation emerged after Reagan, buying into the conservative bull@!$%# and creating a whole infrastructure for right-wingers. The Heritage Foundation and Fox News show that. Believe me, if the Republicans win in 2012, they win it all; Senate, House, everything. And if they do win everything, they will literally take this country back to the Dark Ages. No Medicare, no Medicaid, no Social Security. They privatize the whole damn thing. Education gets slashed; taxes for high earners plummet, and regulations on the environment and the financial industry are done away with. Income inequality surges, along with the deficit, and the Romney tax cuts become the new Bush tax cuts; in order to fix the deficit, assuming that Democrats win in 2016, we will have to contend with a party that will not only demand for the Bush tax cuts, but also for the Romney tax cuts, limiting deficit-reduction options. If the GOP wins, America loses.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

  • 13 votes
#1.37 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

Romney's possible argument: Leave it up to the states.

Obama's rebuttal: Then why is there a federal DOMA act? Why not leave that up to the states.

The election is slipping from Mitt (I'm not complaining.)

  • 8 votes
#1.38 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

This is very bad news for Romneycare.

"To that end, the June NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll contained a telling statistic: 58 percent of registered voters who said they planned to vote for Romney said their vote was more about voting against Obama. Thirty-five percent said their vote was mostly in favor of Romney."

More than half of those voting for Romney are actually voting against the other guy - like anybody else could just jump in and do a great job regardless of their lack of qualifications.
You Republicans could have dug up something better. It is not our fault. You will have one more, brief bubble, and that is when Romneycare announces his VP. Then, after that pops, Obama will thoroughly thrash him in the debates, and the show's over.

  • 3 votes
#1.39 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

As a real Republican I am sick of the Teaparty trashing other Republicans. If they are so "right" and have so much support why don't they go out and form their own party?

  • 3 votes
#1.40 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

I am deeply concerned for this country. Obama is to the RIGHT of Reagan and the GOP calls him a SOCIALIST. If the GOP wins control of both houses and the POTUS, we are doomed. Anarchy and revolution are in out future. AND THAT will seem better than the SLAVERY and SERFDOM the Tea Bagger's overlords have planned for us.

Call me a crazy liberal but I used to be just to the left of Reagan - barely a progressive back them. Now I am so far left that I seem terribly extreme in this conversation.

The bad part? I HAVEN'T MOVED!

  • 6 votes
#1.41 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

Pat Buchanan could not be more right. His words below...

Thanks, Brockton Barlow, for posting Pat Buchanan's letter. I don't usually agree with you, but I respect your freedom to express your thoughts, and I do not believe your post deserved to be collapsed.

Pat Buchanan's letter was basically correct in its questioning of the potential consequences of negativity and falsehoods in political discourse. I believe that the President, any President, should be held to a higher standard. What Pat omits is that such a standard must also apply to anyone who wants to occupy the Oval Office as well.

That said, I offer the following response:

Dear Pat Buchanan,

Cram it with a frozen pinecone you hackneyed partisan hypocrite.

Where was your moral compass when your right-wing colleagues slung feces like apes at President Obama during his election campaign and nearly every day of his Presidency?

Where was your indignation when one of your Republican congressmen had the audacity to shriek "You lie!" like an accuser at a Salem witch trial during a State of the Union address?

Where was your demand for respect when your attention-whoring Arizona governor pubicly disrespected the highest office in our nation?

Where was your sense of fairness and decency when, for the umpteenth time, crackpot "Sheriff" Joe Arpaio, champion beater of the deadest of horses, made another public accusation questioning the President's citizenship?

I'll tell you where it was--up your backside with your prejudiced head, Mr. Buchanan. Now sit down and shut up. Your (lack of) credibility's no good here.

Sincerely,

Me and everyone else here with a functioning conscience.

  • 5 votes
#1.42 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

Democrats LIKE and RESPECT President Obama

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Republicans just tolerate Romney

While Republicans have largely rallied around Romney, his relationship with the right seems to be mostly a marriage of convenience -- one in which Romney represents the best, if imperfect, chance to defeat President Barack Obama in November.

  • 1 vote
#1.43 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

IRESPOND-2315268

No matter what Romney says or does he is going to get 99.9% of the conservative vote.

Even with 99.9% of the conservative vote, it's not likely to be enough. Keep in mind that in the latest polls, President Obama has a widening lead among likely voters, and that only 3% of voters considers themselves as "undecided". That does not bode well for Rmoney.

Barring a contested convention, or September or October surprise, the Republicans best chances for victory at this point are:

1) Turn-out is much greater for republicans than the democrats
2) Voter Intimidation/Election fraud is carried out by the Republicans

Frankly, even with #1, Obama still has a better chance of winning the electoral college; but it's the Voter ID and other suppression laws in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania that should have most Democrats nervous.

  • 2 votes
#1.44 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

Romney was the least objectionable turd in the turd punch that was the GOP primary season. He is flaying in the deep end of the pool and the last thing he needs is "Kill Medicare" Ryan or "Bush Budget Director" Portman to 50lbs anvil him to the bottom. He has so little control even over his own party that when his spokesperson used Romneycare as a defense the wicked witch of Washington had a sh!t fit and demanded the woman's head on Fox News. If the convention goes badly (a distinct possibility) he'll lose by 10 points. Obama is just waiting conserving his cash for the knockout blows.

  • 3 votes
#1.45 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

Brockton Barlow:

The steel plant was closed in 2001. Soptic lost his health insurance, but his wife was still working and had hers. She lost her job and insurance in 2003. Her illness and cancer were discovered in 2006, when Romney was ending his fourth year as governor of Massachusetts.

Source?

  • 1 vote
#1.46 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

Please nominate Ryan for Veep.The DNC fully endorses this catastrophe

  • 3 votes
#1.47 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

Paul Ryan is the very conservative choice, he is not a choice that will bode well for the election, he will be the Palin of 2012. Romney needs to attract independents not more tea party. He is now losing massively because of his inability to attract the middle. Oh well, they can pick losers like Ryan or Walker, it will just guarantee the democrats four more years. The very right will never understand that we independents think they are bible thumping sociopaths.

    #1.48 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:21 PM EDT
    Reply

    John McCain made a "bold" choice; we know how well that worked. Why should Rolmney listen to the naybobs in his party who are throwing hissy fits? Better yet, why are the naybobs throwing hissy fits? They chose Mitt Romney by voting for him in the primaries and by giving him millions to fight off his challengers. They allowed him to become their presumptive nominee. They knew what they were getting. Now Mitt should pick whomever he prefers and thumb his nose at them.

    I saw a clip of Ann Coulter last night. Always thought the expression "heads exploding" was an odd one but watching Coulter, I know exactly why that expression came to be. Even Hannity seemed taken back by her angry rant. If Romney fires Andrea Saul because of people like Coulter, the Time Magazine cover of Mitt and the Wimp Factor will seem even more appropriate.

    4 more for 44!

    • 67 votes
    #2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

    I guess Mitt must be concerned that they won't show up and vote for him. We know the conservatives would never vote for the President but they could just stay home. They must value ideological purity over their hatred of the President.

    • 33 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

    It's an interesting question about ideological purity. If they hate Obama so much, what guarantee is there that Romney is going to be willing to do whatever they want? He's supported RomneyCare in the past. For four years, he's not going to be answerable to anyone.

    The simple problem that the Conservatives have is that all the solutions to fix the country's problems are liberal ideas - reducing the deficit, investing money in infrastructure, a cheaper healthcare system without unlimited profit off the back of patients.

    With Romney, what guarantee do they have that they won't get Obama-lite?

    • 19 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

    For all the hatred directed at the president, the GOP could only field a collection of 8 clowns. And out of them, they picked a moderate, trying to pander to the right wing lunatic fringe. Mitt the Twit. It's almost as if the GOP wants to lose the presidential race.

    • 57 votes
    #2.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:13 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarTruePatriot-445959Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Jody -- Agreed. It keeps coming back to the same fundamental problem with Romney. A lack of conviction about anything, and always being a Poser for the crowd at that given moment.

    Romney is a one-trick pony who was running on *business experience,* which was first damaged by Bain Inequity Vulture Capitalism and NOT being a job creator. Then after Romney's trip overseas, more people realized his *business experience* did not automatically translate to statesman, president, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world. In fact, his gaffe in the UK about the Olympics was precisely because Romney spoke like a CEO with a big ego.

    Add to that Romney's inability to be transparent let alone accessible, whether interacting with the press, or providing tax returns, or revealing his bundlers, or even talking like a normal person about his grocery or hardware purchases -- His obsession with privacy, to the point of neurotic secrecy and Olympic documents and hard drives and even his schedule is NOT in keeping with living under a magnifying glass of the White House. It's more on par with the missing Watergate tapes during Nixon.

    Ann Coulter said they needed to pick Christie otherwise Romney would be nominated and they would lose. While I question whether Christie is much better of a pick, her head has been ready to explode for some time now. It's not just Teavangelicals who don't like Romney, or anti-Obamacare Teabaggers angry now, no one likes Romney -- Especially anyone who has run against him, or even many who have worked with him such as Olympic volunteers. The man feels entitled to rule the world and will do and say anything to do so.

    Romney -- No more shyster excuses. Release at least 8 years tax returns (specifically 2008 and 2009). Voters have a right to know how you would use your economic/tax policy to game the system at their expense.

    • 37 votes
    #2.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:14 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The only way to save the GOP is to get rid of the Crazy Tea Bag (Like Bachmann-Palin) types, and welcome the sane Moderates back. At the same time they can return some respect back to the Republican Party.

    • 44 votes
    #2.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:18 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarDiverdown1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Blah, blah, blah...everything that comes out of Romney's mouth is blah. Ann Coulter is the most disgusting, hateful woman I have ever witnessed. Not sure why the first comments were deleted...I read them and couldn't agree more.

    • 31 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

    Willard really doesn't have a good record to run on. However, Romney care he should be proud of.

    Just ask Andrea Saul, who said, following a former steelworker whose plant was closed by Bain Capital and blaming Willard Romney, who co-founded the firm, for his family's loss of health insurance and his wife's subsequent death from cancer."To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney's health-care plan, they would have had health care."

    • 38 votes
    #2.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

    It bears repeating:

    "To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care," the spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, said Wednesday on Fox News in reference to the health reform law Massachusetts enacted while Romney was governor.

    • 34 votes
    #2.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

    And one more time for the righties.

    "To that point, you know, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Governor Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care," the spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, said Wednesday on Fox News in reference to the health reform law Massachusetts enacted while Romney was governor.

    • 35 votes
    #2.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

    Michelle Malkin spoke of "the thousands of real workers out there who have had their pensions and health care stripped."

    Michelle, are you implying that it is Obama who stripped away the pensions and health care of these people? Look again. That is a result of Republican governors' and legislatures' anti union policies. Again, Republicans are such masters of projection, and so totally unaware.

    • 36 votes
    #2.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

    McCain tried to appease the GOP's Taliban wing and it drove away the moderate and independent voters. Romney shouldn't make the same mistake. How about selecting someone who complements his weaknesses ... for instance, someone with strong foreign policy credentials, especially someone who isn't likely to alienate the British.

    • 14 votes
    #2.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

    wah wah boo hoo... the reps are all over the news complaining about the bad ad created by a PAC (NOT Obama).. yet they don't have anything to say about their blantant lie regarding the commercial saying Obama wants to change the work requirement of welfare... Totally disgusting when they KNOW it is a lie. The memo clearly states the only way a state could get a waiver is if they replace it with a program that is even better at making welfare people work for their check. The money flowing into this campaign should make everyone sick to their stomach. We no longer elect the best candidate, we elect the one with the most money or PACs.

    • 30 votes
    #2.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

    when will it surface that harry reid's informant re: romney's lack of paying taxes for the past 10 years will come from a member of the us senate. John Mcain

    • 24 votes
    #2.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

    Selecting Paul Ryan as the VP would be a great idea......if you want Obama re-elected. The far right always seems to meddle and screw things up for the GOP at this point in the election cycle. If they could remain somewhat moderate (by kicking out all the lunatic fundamental Christians) the GOP would win most elections, but for some stupid reason, they bow to these loonies. What a joke, religion has no role in our political process and for that matter the youth of this country is showing us that religion won't even be relevant in 20 years. Want proof of lunacy, just google david barton.

    • 11 votes
    #2.14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

    Prominent voices on the right have begun urging Romney to settle on a "bold" choice as his running mate, specifically Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan, the author of an ambitious budget proposal that has made him a darling among conservatives.

    He may be a darling among conservatives, but he's an enemy of the middle class and a sure fire way to insure an Obama victory. I applaud it.

    • 29 votes
    #2.15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

    If he picks Ryan it's all over, he is close now but he will fall apart due to the Ryan plan, there are a hell of a lot of old folks out there that will kick Romney to the curb in a heart beat if he selects Ryan, us Democrats would love that selection it would be a walk in the park for Obama. <<<< OBAMA 2012 >>>>

    • 22 votes
    #2.16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:07 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarE. DebooExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Feisty....do you even have a job? Reading your profile, you blame "W" for losing your job...that was 4 years ago. Based on the amount of time and crap you spew on this site, I can't imagine how productive you could possibly be at work. You are always the first person to comment on every political article and have so much hate inside you its actually funny reading your comments...you truly believe all that leftist crap. Not every republican is a rich, white male. Some of us are racially mixed and have small business and may even have both liberal and conservative views, but tend to lean just a little more to the right of middle...some of us crate jobs for others....keeping spewing the crap from your mouth...the more you say it...the more you actually believe it to be true. A little tip....spend less time trolling the internet and more time working and you are likely to keep a job.

    • 5 votes
    #2.17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

    The problems of campaign finance influencing elections must be reduced. Multiple bills have been proposed to deal with these issues: H. R. 137, the Fairness in Political Advertising Act and H.R. 139, the Ethics in Foreign Lobbying Act.

    • 11 votes
    #2.18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

    Heartlight3

    Michelle Malkin

    Agreed, Fox and Friends are a hoot too. But Maulkin makes Ann Coulter look sane.

    • 20 votes
    #2.19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

    E.Deboo (2.17) " ..some of us crate jobs for others..." and ship them overseas?? okay, so i know it's a typo, but LOL

    • 14 votes
    #2.20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

    Lots of money is being pumped into Florida to support conservative candidates. This will go more to support crazy tea baggers in Congressional and Senatorial campaigns than to Romney although I am sure he will get his share. Below is an article from our local paper today.

    Billionaire industrialist William Koch and two companies he controls have pumped at least $3 million into conservative campaigns, making him the largest political donor in Florida, according to an analysis by the Herald-Tribune.

    • 11 votes
    #2.21 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

    It does not matter what Conservatives say, they are all going to still vote for Mitt.

    A can of orange juice would make a better president than the one who occupies the job now. (Notice I didn't say does the job.)

    • 3 votes
    #2.22 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:24 PM EDT
    • It's funny to watch anorexic Ann Coulter, Rush the junkie, the clowns on Fox and the rest of the rest of the right wing noise machine go crazy. Sorry right wingers -- Romney is not a tea bagger. The guy has no spine, no backbone, no core. He will say anything to get elected. If he's talking to a group who likes Romney-care --- he's all for it. If he talking to a group who doesn't like Romney-care -- he's against it. He's for/against/for/against/against/for anything depending on the time of day. I remember every presidential election since 1952 and Romney is the phoniest candidate either major party has ever nominated in those 60 years.
    • 31 votes
    #2.23 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

    Re-post due to collapse:

    It keeps coming back to the same fundamental problem with Romney. A lack of conviction about anything, and always being a Poser for the crowd at that given moment.

    Romney is a one-trick pony who was running on *business experience,* which was first damaged by Bain Inequity Vulture Capitalism and NOT being a job creator. Then after Romney's trip overseas, more people realized his *business experience* did not automatically translate to statesman, president, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world. In fact, his gaffe in the UK about the Olympics was precisely because Romney spoke like a CEO with a big ego.

    Add to that Romney's inability to be transparent let alone accessible, whether interacting with the press, or providing tax returns, or revealing his bundlers, or even talking like a normal person about his grocery or hardware purchases -- His obsession with privacy, to the point of neurotic secrecy and Olympic documents and hard drives and even his schedule is NOT in keeping with living under a magnifying glass of the White House. It's more on par with the missing Watergate tapes during Nixon.

    Ann Coulter said they needed to pick Christie otherwise Romney would be nominated and they would lose. While I question whether Christie is much better of a pick, her head has been ready to explode for some time now. It's not just Teavangelicals who don't like Romney, or anti-Obamacare Teabaggers angry now, no one likes Romney -- Especially anyone who has run against him, or even many who have worked with him such as Olympic volunteers. The man feels entitled to rule the world and will do and say anything to do so.

    Romney -- No more shyster excuses. Release at least 8 years tax returns (specifically 2008 and 2009). Voters have a right to know how you would use your economic/tax policy to game the system at their expense.

    • 24 votes
    #2.24 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

    Charlie - the sad thing is, the teabaggers are too stupid to remember any of this tomorrow, so Romney knows he can get away with it.

    Romney actually RAN on romneycare in the primaries leading up to '08.

    I am curious to know why McCain thought the screaching idiot Palin was a better choice than Romney for a running mate.

    • 16 votes
    #2.25 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

    "Willard really doesn't have a good record to run on. However, Romney care he should be proud of."

    • Romney runs away from his entire life. He never talks about his time as governor as Massachusetts, never talks about his religion, runs away from his time at Bain and seldom talks about the 2002 Olympics. Again -- he's a phony. He wants people to believe he's something he's not.
    • 17 votes
    #2.26 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

    Job1

    The only way to save the GOP is to get rid of the Crazy Tea Bag (Like Bachmann-Palin) types, and welcome the sane Moderates back. At the same time they can return some respect back to the Republican Party.

    Unfortunately Job, this is one of the few times I will have to disagree with you. The ONLY way to save the GOP is to destroy them; destroy them in 2012, and again in 2014 and 2016. The Tea Party is merely the public embodiment of the movement conservatives. For 30 years, we have lived in a supply-side hell, where the gap between rich and poor expands and the government caters to the 1%. If we defeat them soundly in 2012, the Tea Party might be done for, but we will still have the Bush/Cheney Republicans to deal with. If we eliminate them in 2016, we will have a GOP stripped to the bare bones, devoid of neocons and supply-siders alike. Then we will have a chance at getting them back to the center.

    Ohio-Independent

    The problems of campaign finance influencing elections must be reduced. Multiple bills have been proposed to deal with these issues: H. R. 137, the Fairness in Political Advertising Act and H.R. 139, the Ethics in Foreign Lobbying Act.

    Simply solved: ban all campaign contributions that are above $250 per person, root out "social welfare" organizations that are actually political powerhouses, end the reign of PACs and Super PACs, and institute public funding. Each presidential candidate will be given $200 million in public funds and it will be indexed to inflation. Every other federal candidate will get the 2008 average of campaign contributions, also indexed to inflation.

    • 16 votes
    #2.27 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:25 PM EDT

    Freshieee -- Agreed. The Republican Party needs to wander in the desert for enough generations that the Teabagger anarchists die out.

    • 14 votes
    #2.28 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

    Please, please, PLEASE run Ryan as VP! What better way to guarantee Obama as the next president!

    • 13 votes
    #2.29 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

    Romney's ship is already sinking. The latest FOX Poll has him down by 9% which is a 5% drop in support from last month alone. You can only pull the wool over the eyes of the middle and lower class so long and they wise up. Send Romney and the teabuggers to a hot dark place. Down below!

    It couldn't happen to a nastier guy and group than Romney and the Conservatives. Imagine what they would do to this country if they can't work together now!

    • 12 votes
    #2.30 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

    Ryan is just another rich millionaire like Romney and with the same bloated head. We in the Janesville area want him gone.

    • 9 votes
    #2.31 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

    Gov Romney must take control of this campaign. He must become aggressive and refrain from his constant defensive position. Until he does this, it's a "piece of cake" for Obama and his failed presidency. So sad.

    • 1 vote
    #2.32 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:05 PM EDT

    Ah the TP/GOP. The party that want's a smaller government so it will fit up your vagina.

    • 10 votes
    #2.33 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

    kkwilson,

    I love cake and hate republicans. Especially, the teabuggers. After being a republican most of my life I wonder how I was so ignorant and couldn't think for myself. Actually, it was watching the lies on FOX that started me thinking and now it is hilarious every time I try to watch it.

    • 8 votes
    #2.34 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

    TruePatriot and Jody

    In reading your comments, the same question always comes to mind. In terms of Obama's past, why are you not fascinated by Obama's 'lock and key'? You never ask. His school. His college grades. His college thesis. His friends. You know ... HIM.

      #2.35 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

      Ramenie/Doritos 2012!! Bold and spicy!

        #2.36 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:52 PM EDT

        WheresCongress -- Where to begin, maybe with his book The Audacity of Hope and books written by others about the president. You have to have good grades or lots of money to get into Harvard, but to become president of the Harvard Law Review, the selection is blind (they don't know the name, race, etc., only performance) and then of course since President Obama graduated magna cum laude we know he graduated at the top of his class.

        What do YOU know about Bob McDonnell's thesis -- Now there's some scary Christian Sharia Law to read about.

        • 7 votes
        #2.37 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:07 AM EDT

        Tony Soprano Explains Bain Capital

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reiq4lEvnEw

          #2.38 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:11 AM EDT

          If they hate Obama so much, what guarantee is there that Romney is going to be willing to do whatever they want? He's supported RomneyCare in the past. For four years, he's not going to be answerable to anyone.

          Remember, if Romney's elected he'll be running for his second term before he's even sworn in. So he will be answerable to the people who could vote him into a second term. So we can be pretty sure he'll toe the conservitive line.

          • 1 vote
          #2.39 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:41 AM EDT
          Reply

          "That sentiment has manifested itself in some conservatives' demand that Romney put forth a more digestible jobs plan..."

          As opposed to absolutely no jobs plan at all ... or tax plan ... or health plan ...

          • 46 votes
          Reply#3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

          Last I checked, Obama was not the hiring chief of the US. When companies stuff away profits and don't hire, how is that Obama fault? Plus, there are hundreds of thousands of workers that will NEVER get rehired mainly due to age and ability to get re trained. Also, conservatives have been crying about the size of Gov on all levels (ever since GWB massively expanded the fed Gov) and now that all levels have purged jobs, its Obama fault that every american cannot find a job. I heard Bain was hiring.............oh wait, you need not apply unless you have been a life long member of the Good Ole Boys club. How sad!

          • 23 votes
          #3.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

          readbetweenthelines - I was referring to Romney's lack of any sort of plan - jobs, taxes or otherwise. He talks about reversing everything President Obama has done but he's not offered anything concrete for how he'd turn things around. Read the lines (not between).

          • 18 votes
          #3.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

          Re-post due to collapse above: Here is what I think would happen if Romney was able to squeak out a victory with voter suppression, etc. --

          Romney is proud of himself for what ever he has done in his life, including Romneycare, and this is why he feels entitled to rule the world -- But don't confuse pride of achievements with sincere concern for other people. Romney does not have empathy, which must be developed during childhood, and this did not happen for him.

          Romney also lacks his own convictions (common in the Mormon culture), practicing a religion because that's what his parents did, and their parents before them. Being influenced by his mother about a woman's right to choose, but lacking the personal conviction to oppose positions held by the Mormon church or peer pressure in his Party. Romney is weak and lacks the curiosity or critical thinking to question authority, and failed to resolve conflicts in his young adulthood the way the president did. This is why he often says he won't change current law--that would mean having real conviction about something, being an activist, and having the fire in the belly about what he stands for.

          The only determination Romney has had is success with money, and now wants success with power. He will do or say anything, and likewise if he managed to be elected, would pander even more to be reelected to a second term. If folks think the flip flop is bad now, a Romney presidency would be schizophrenic and far worse than just having digits to sign what ever Norquist hands him, or the Tea Party demands of him, or if/when there may ever be conflict with his own belief and having the courage to act on it.

          This is the first time, except maybe Ross Perot, when we've seen someone persistently pursue the presidency for the title. Fire in the belly means that person is driven by ideals, not just an office because that's the only thing he doesn't already own.

          Romney has no depth, no compass, and not even a personality. Haunting.

          • 20 votes
          #3.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

          "That sentiment has manifested itself in some conservatives' demand that Romney put forth a more digestible jobs plan..."

          And what plan has he put forth so far? Why, no plan at all! Where is the plan, Romney?

          • 6 votes
          #3.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

          Where is Ramenie's PLAN to prove he didn't cheat on his taxes?

          • 5 votes
          #3.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

          Charlie (if that is your real name) Obama (if that is his real name) has no legitimate past to 'run away from'.

          His past is all in his head. The paper trail every honest person leaves is available for all to see in just a few inquiries with the right folks.

          Can you find Obama’s PAST? Of course to find out his past one needs to know what his real name is.

          It is so hypocritical and very noticeable that this fraud stinking up the Oval Office and now AF 1 has no past.

          He is a made up person bought and paid for by the anti-American crowd who have longed for the day a crude and evil person could come on the scene and con the American people with his BS.

          Who is to blame? There is always someone to blame. I blame the republicats for abdicating leadership if that is what they call it to Norquist, McConnell, McCain, Graham and the fat asses who sit on the RNC.

          I blame the democats whose anger, whose hatred has been boiling over for twenty years. They are not Americans, indeed they are ANTI AMERICANS.

          Look at Pelosi, McCain, Snow, Schumer, Levin, Durbin, Kerry, Liebermann, Schumer and of course that well known failure and liar Harry Reid.

          There are more whose names should be paraded before the American People and those named should be expelled from Congress, and most of them imprisoned.

          And TERM LIMITS need to be in place, drug tests, IQ tests, financial reporting and of course an oath that means something... not just an irritant on the way to stealing form the National Treasure.


          • 3 votes
          #3.6 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:14 AM EDT

          I guess you didn't read "Dreams from my Father", else you would know.

          • 3 votes
          #3.7 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:37 AM EDT

          He talks about reversing everything President Obama has done

          That's why he doesn't need plans to appease his followers. All he has to say is that he'll undo everything Obama's done, and they'll cheer wildly and vote for him.

            #3.8 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

            WTF!!!

            Romney as Audit Chair Saw Marriott Son of BOSS Shelter Defy IRS

            By Jesse Drucker - Feb 23, 2012

            Mitt Romney has long had close ties to hotel operator Marriott International Inc. (MAR) The candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, whose full name is Willard Mitt Romney, was named after the chain’s founder, J. Willard Marriott, a friend of his father. He joined the company’s board in 1993, and has served on it for 11 of the past 19 years, including six as chairman of the audit committee.

            During Romney’s tenure as a Marriott director, the company repeatedly utilized complex tax-avoidance maneuvers, prompting at least two tangles with the Internal Revenue Service, records show. In 1994, while he headed the audit committee, Marriott used a tax shelter known to attorneys by its nickname: “Son of BOSS.”

            A federal appeals court invalidated the maneuver in a 2009 ruling, siding with the U.S. Department of Justice, which called Marriott’s transaction and attempted tax benefits “fictitious,” “artificial,” “spectral,” an “illusion” and a “scheme.” Marriott had argued the plan predated government efforts to close such shelters.

            Employing another strategy, Marriott legally avoided hundreds of millions of dollars in income taxes thanks to a federal tax-credit program criticized and allowed to expire by Congress. Marriott has also shifted profits to a Luxembourg shell company. During Romney’s years on the board, Marriott’s effective tax rate dipped as low as 6.8 percent, compared with the federal corporate statutory rate of 35 percent.

            I REALLY DISLIKE THIS GUY!!! He's so damned slippery and so damned UN-American. He's sneaky and secretive and he really does hate the American system!!

            NOT a good example of American fair play and justice!!

            • 1 vote
            #3.9 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

            Obama has put forth 100+ bills to help the economy and the middle class. They have all been stalled, shelved, and never brought up to a vote....by the republicans. They will abandon the middle class to make sure Obama loses. (Which is not going to happen). The repubs can't stand Romney....talk about a poor choice...can't believe they put up this empty suit as a candidate.

              #3.10 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:51 PM EDT
              Reply

              Will the real Mitt Romney, please stand up.

              Romney agrees with Everything and Nothing.
              -------------------------
              Abortion:
              “abortion should be safe and legal”
              “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose”
              FLIP-FLOP
              ”I am pro-life"
              ------------------------
              Health care law with personal mandates:
              “If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation. I Like mandates”
              FLIP-FLOP
              “I will repeal Obamacare."
              ------------------------
              Minimum wage:
              “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.”
              FLIP-FLOP
              “There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.”
              -------------------------
              Campaign finance limits:
              “I would like to have campaign spending limits.”
              FLIP-FLOP
              “The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without burdensome limitations.”
              ----------------------
              Auto industry bailout:
              “I’m going to take burdens off the back of the auto industry.”
              FLIP-FLOP
              ”Let Detroit go bankrupt. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.”
              -------------------
              The bank bailout:
              “The TARP program… was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.”
              FLIP-FLOP
              “When government is… bailing out banks… we have every good reason to be alarmed.”
              -------------------
              Gingrich on Romney: Why nominate the 'guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?'

              • 59 votes
              Reply#4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

              Mitt Romney's campaign platform has more flips and flops than a McKayla Maroney gymnastics routine.

              • 31 votes
              #4.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

              Myth Flip Omney Bane two face is Batman's worse enemy.

              • 15 votes
              #4.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

              And the GOP and Karl Rove slaughtered John Kerry over what, 1-3 changes in policy that he stated reasons for. Romney is painfully, blatantly, without questioningly changing his position for the political audience/climate that serves him best at any given moment. If John Kerry was a "flip-flopper," Karl, then what does that make him? Revolving, Roll-Over Romney?

              • 24 votes
              #4.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

              If you don't like Romney's position on something, just wait a bit.

              Romney's slogan: You have to elect him to find out what he's for.

              • 28 votes
              #4.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

              right on cameron! i'll have to use that one!

              the "romney floor routine." lol!

              • 7 votes
              #4.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

              Mitt Romney's campaign platform has more flips and flops than a McKayla Maroney gymnastics routine.

              Not to mention, Willard's dismount SUCKS!

              • 19 votes
              #4.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

              Former Michigan congressman and one time Republican presidential hopeful Thaddeus McCotter is in big trouble.

              http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/09/former-mccotter-staffers-charged-with-faking-nominating-signatures/comment-page-1/

              Shows just how clean the Republicons are, lmao.

              • 17 votes
              #4.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

              CAMERON: that post was funny but dangerous. I was assaulted by this revolting visual: Romneybot backflipping in a leotard........not good.

              • 6 votes
              #4.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

              I think Miss Mittsy's strength is in the uneven bars. He only does the "vault" when he's in Switzerland...and if it involves the floor, he pays illegals to do it for him.

              • 7 votes
              #4.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

              You are right on target

              • 2 votes
              #4.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

              And what plan has he put forth so far? Why, no plan at all! Where is the plan, Romney?

              • 5 votes
              #4.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

              Thanks Tonybeeerm, that's one less GOP on the ballot.

              • 6 votes
              #4.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:31 PM EDT
              Reply

              Is it my imagination, or are things getting a bit testy in GOP land?

              • 43 votes
              #5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

              That mirror you are looking in isn't one of this circus ones...it really is twice as bad on your side.

              • 3 votes
              #5.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

              gmk,

              Between chemo and radiation - and being bald as a cue ball, I stay FAR away from mirrors! LOL

              • 29 votes
              #5.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:41 PM EDT
              Comment author avatareric in oregon.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              @gmk-numbers HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa and... a HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

              What a bunch of sorry a$$ clowns your GOP have ... I can't stand it! HaHaHaHaHa

              • 16 votes
              #5.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

              Oh, it's entertaining alright. I can't wait for the debates. Phinephancy I do not know you but my heart goes out to you and your battle. I wish you well, my friend.

              • 27 votes
              #5.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

              phine: I am so sorry to hear that. Prayers to you, my friend.

              • 29 votes
              #5.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

              Save the pink flamingos! Keep posting, phine, you make our blog so much prettier.

              • 28 votes
              #5.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

              nothing can be twice as bad as romney, not even close.

              when the democrats launch the full ad assault in the fall, showing him speaking out of both sides of his mouth...too many conservatives are going to sit home in november.

              and sadly, im pretty confident that was the republicans game plan...because there's really no fixing our economy when MOST people are broke as a joke, and it takes MOST PEOPLE to spur an economy again.

              rich people just dont spend enough to spur it...businesses hire because they have customers, not tax breaks. no customers, no growth. no middle class with spending power, no customers.

              it really IS that simple.

              • 32 votes
              #5.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

              We need to start a Flamingo Party

              • 26 votes
              #5.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

              Phine--I have flamingo wallpaper in my powder room (much to my husband's chagrin!) and, of course, the appropriate accessories! Also 2 plastic ones in my front yard (the neighbors love those!).

              • 23 votes
              #5.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

              phine,

              I admire your strength, keep up the fight.

              • 22 votes
              #5.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

              Hope you get well, phine... Let's focus on short-term, achievable goals first... Get better, because you're not going to want to miss the freakin' debates! Well, assuming Willard agrees to be in any. You've always got at least the vote on the horizon.

              • 27 votes
              #5.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

              I confess, I tried collecting flamingos at one time, because I was obsessed, but not many opportunities considering I never leave Maine : )

              And I try to stay off Ebay!

              • 17 votes
              #5.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

              Two Flamingos in my Littleton backyard.

              • 15 votes
              #5.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:15 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarwitchrunnerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              "A bit testy in GOP land?" Actually, not! Of course that ad was a total lie anyway. And, if this had been 2014 then the woman would have been fined for not having health insurance. Oh, and she did receive health care anyway. There wasn't one thing in that ad that was the truth. Yet that is the kind of stuff the libs tout. It is emblematic of their integrity and their politics. They can't tell the truth because no one would vote for them. There's a reason that Alinsky wrote the manual for libs. Honesty and integrity don't work and are alien to libs. Also, there's a reason that Obama uses a teleprompter, he needs it to remind him what he believes. Ever notice that when he doesn't have one he just stutters and comes across a bit drunk?

              The fact is that Romney is now the only choice to prevent Obama from further destroying the country. Conservs know that. Indies know that. Even those in the middle know it. So, the only ones who don't know it are either Obama cheerleaders rooting for the destruction of the US or they are just plain too ignorant and lazy to educate themselves. Maybe there's another option there, but I'm not aware of it.

              • 5 votes
              #5.14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

              Well, your idea of "destruction" is "being turned into a country that is not 100% run by the elites." Guess what? We are perfectly happy with your definition of "destruction." It's our definition of "progress." We want the US to be for ALL of the people, not just the ones who think they should be in charge because they were once the dominant majority.

              • 19 votes
              #5.15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

              phinephancy -

              We have an old concrete pink flamingo in our flower bed that used to belong to my wife's grandmother. It would be one of the first things we would see when we went to vist her, that pink flamingo standing guard out front.

              I will add thoughts of you to the pleasant thoughts I have when I look at it in the future.

              I would gladly join your Flamingo Party!

              • 21 votes
              #5.16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

              Pink Flamingo Party?

              I'll join up in a heartbeat, phinephancy.

              I'm a two-time survivor, myself, though never a bald one, and pink plastic flamingos are a folklore staple in this part of the world.

              http://malkah.tumblr.com/post/178269502/about-the-flamingos-i-thought-it-might-be-nice

              In fact, the pink plastic flamingo is our official city bird.

              http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/article_e4c74006-905e-5c82-ad11-1ee368c900fc.html

              So we understand completely. Godspeed with your fight. I know you're strong and you obviously have a wonderful support network.

              • 18 votes
              #5.17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

              I am ALMOST ashamed to admit I have 69 Flamingo! Please note I said "Almost"

              • 21 votes
              #5.18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

              You go, girl.

              I have my fingers and toes crossed for you. What next, after chemo?

              • 17 votes
              #5.19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

              wichrunner what are you smoking? The GOP can't stand itself! Jon Hunstman won't attend your convention (he should have been your candidate), McCain would like to take Bachmann and toss her on her rightfully deserving can .. but all's well????

              • 18 votes
              #5.20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

              phine--I will join too! Great idea--maybe we could get a real third party going.

              My healing thoughts and prayers to and for you.

              • 15 votes
              #5.21 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

              I'm with you Phine on the Flamingo party.

              • 12 votes
              #5.22 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

              Flamingo party.

              Wouldn't miss it for the world, GF!

              You keep your chin up, we'll see you in June all decked out pretty in pink! ;o)

              • 13 votes
              #5.23 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

              no phinephancy...they're getting teste.

              that is , they're all nuts.

              • 8 votes
              #5.24 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

              phine -

              Thinking back to yesterday's conversation - I think we'd all be a little less testy if we'd just say "spiffy pink flamingo swizzle sticks" at least once a day!

              My brother once "won" a pink plastic flamingo at an office Christmas gift exchange - I forget what they call it, but you're supposed to contribute something somebody gave you that you want to get rid of, like fruitcakes or ugly ties or Michael Bolton CD's or whatever. Anyway, it mysteriously appeared on my lawn that Christmas Eve and has since made its way across state lines and to at least six other lawns. I'm expecting it back again this year.

              But in the meantime, I have pink flamingo earrings - will always think of you when I wear them!

              • 12 votes
              #5.25 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

              Phine - I think you might qualify for the "Flamingo Hoarding" reality show coming to a Florida station near you. ;) Oh, no - then they will find us all at our Flamingo Party! Count me in - can it be at the beach? It's damn hot here although not as bad as other states.

              • 9 votes
              #5.26 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

              Phine - my sister has two Christmas trees - one is traditional. The other she puts in her Florida room (in VA) and is all decorated in pink flamingos. I honestly don't know how it started but now it's a tradition for her!

              • 7 votes
              #5.27 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

              PHINE,

              Another future member of the 'PFP'. Picture it: a very large, redneck progressive sporting a pink flamingo hat. BTW, nothing sexier than a funny, smart bald chick!

              • 7 votes
              #5.28 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

              Is it my imagination, or are things getting a bit testy in GOP land?

              Nope, not your imagination... Where is the plan, Romney?

              • 3 votes
              #5.29 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

              The plan? Get Faux News to keep up the lies then get voter ID to suppress the vote. Pretty simple.

              Lets hope the courts are not too stuffed with Republican Shills or that the ones that are (I am looking at YOU, Supremes) actually have a little shame. There is NO WAY voter ID is constitutional.

              • 1 vote
              #5.30 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

              witchrunner:

              Oh, and she did receive health care anyway.

              Source?

              • 1 vote
              #5.31 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
              Reply

              Romney's only choice in this situation is to nominate a far right wing Vice Presidential candidate.

              Hope he picks Ryan, though Bachmann would be loads of fun too.

              • 29 votes
              Reply#6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

              NDD

              Please, not Ryan. There is the sweetest little old lady in my chemo group who almost strokes out whenever someone mentions Ryan!

              • 23 votes
              #6.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

              phine, should she read what I said, tell her "NDD has tongue firmly planted in cheek."

              • 15 votes
              #6.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

              Please, please, please, let it be Ryan. Between typical senior-citizen high turnouts, and Ryan wanting to kill Social Security... FIESTA!!!

              • 15 votes
              #6.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

              phinephancy, though we are opposites when it comes to politics, I wish you the very best and a quick recovery. May God bless you and keep you safe. Stand strong and defeat the illness you are fighting.

              • 19 votes
              #6.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

              Thanks Tony. If everyone always agreed on everything, the world would be a very boring place

              • 16 votes
              #6.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

              phinephancy I wish you nothing but Highest Good for this day and everyday there after. I was lucky and I beat it. I know will to.

              • 15 votes
              #6.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

              I think he should pick Christine O'Donnell...wouldn't that make the greatest commercial?

              "I really am a Christian" "I am not a witch" "I really am a Christian" "I am not a witch"...

              Running a cult member and a former satan worshiper would sum up the new GOP to a "tea".

              Best of luck to you, phinephancy!! My Grandmother was actually a bit sad when her hair came back...she was having WAY too much fun with the wigs! Would send you a pink flamingo one if I could!!

              • 4 votes
              #6.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

              ...though Bachmann would be loads of fun too.

              Please, please, PLEASE pick Bachman to run as VP! What better way to guarantee Obama's success!

              "I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter."

              "Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands."

              "I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?"

              "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence."

              "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

              "But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.

              Yep, I want this bitch as VP! What an idiot!

              • 2 votes
              #6.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

              Ramenie/Wasilla Hillbilly/ManOnDog Boy/Moon Bat/Gnute/Crappy999Pizza Guy/TheDonald 2012!!!

              • 3 votes
              #6.9 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:06 AM EDT

              Phine, let me add my voice to the chorus of well wishers. And bald as a cue ball isnt so bad... I've been that way for 25 years! As for the Flamingoes... There are two in my courtyard... they just got new names 'Phine" and "Phancy"

              May you get the strength and determination to beat this... Just like we will beat Willard in November!

              • 3 votes
              #6.10 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 AM EDT

              Charlie (if that is your real name) Obama (if that is his real name) has no legitimate past to 'run away from'.

              His past is all in his head. The paper trail every honest person leaves is available for all to see in just a few inquiries with the right folks.

              Can you find Obama’s PAST? Of course to find out his past one needs to know what his real name is.

              It is so hypocritical and very noticeable that this fraud stinking up the Oval Office and now AF 1 has no past.

              He is a made up person bought and paid for by the anti-American crowd who have longed for the day a crude and evil person could come on the scene and con the American people with his BS.

              Who is to blame? There is always someone to blame. I blame the republicats for abdicating leadership if that is what they call it to Norquist, McConnell, McCain, Graham and the fat asses who sit on the RNC.

              I blame the democats whose anger, whose hatred has been boiling over for twenty years. They are not Americans, indeed they are ANTI AMERICNAS.

              Look at Pelosi, McCain, Snow, Schumer, Levin, Durbin, Kerry, Liebermann, Schumer and of course that well known failure and liar Harry Reid.

              There are more whose names should be paraded before the American People and those named should be expelled from Congress, and most of them imprisoned.

              And TERM LIMITS need to be in place, drug tests, IQ tests, financial reporting and of course an oath that means something... not just an irritant on the way to stealing form the National Treasure.

                #6.11 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:16 AM EDT
                Reply

                Aw, c'mon, doesn't everybody love Mitt?

                • 22 votes
                Reply#7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                nope.

                • 25 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                No No No No No No...........gag!

                • 23 votes
                #7.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                Me neither. Hes' a talking head.

                • 17 votes
                #7.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                Aw, c'mon, doesn't everybody love Mitt?

                The only person that people dislike even more is his future VP: Paul Ryan. The two of them are probably some of the most arrogant, pompous and self-serving SOB's

                • 27 votes
                #7.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
                No-one you see, is smarter than he,
                And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
                Flying there-under, under the sea!

                • 15 votes
                #7.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                ChitownMatt! You made me truly laugh out loud! I used to LOVE Flipper!

                • 8 votes
                #7.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                Mitt's another empty suit. We can't afford four years with a president like him. We have to dig ourselves out of the hole we're in from 8 years of 2 unfunded wars as it is. There's no way he can create a strategy to get us out of the fix we're in other than what we're already doing.

                Romney wants to take us back to the era of cowboy diplomacy. That doesn't work. Bush 2nd failed at it. It's expensive and it costs lives. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. Albert Einstein said that decades ago. Seems like some people haven't learned that lesson yet.

                • 12 votes
                #7.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

                Chitown,

                coffee through nose, onto screen. Lordy, if the romneybot somehow wins, that song should replace 'hail to the chief'

                • 5 votes
                #7.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

                doesn't everybody love Mitt?

                The only one that could ever love him is his dog....oops...nope...nevermind...

                • 6 votes
                #7.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                Nobody wants Mitt! Even the Republicans have to hold their nose to vote for Mitt!

                But we all know he is better than that darkie who currently occupies the White House, don't we?

                But, in the meantime, why won't Mitt release his tax returns?

                • 2 votes
                #7.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

                Aw, c'mon, doesn't everybody love Mitt?

                • Which one???
                • 2 votes
                #7.11 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

                Nope! He is a dog no...that's not right I love dogs too much. I think a billionaire should not run for president. What does he want it for? His ads lie. the amount of money he's putting into lies and taking everything out of context is despicable.

                The American people are his boss. I want more than 2 year tax returns. Who does he think he is.....to good for that? Every single president I remember certainly gave up more than that. And why didn't John McCain select him as VP? John at least got 10 years of his tax returns...what was in there that he went with Palin instead?

                He's a billionaire nobody call him a philanthropist. I say billionaire because we don't know how much money he has in all the offshore accounts.

                • 1 vote
                #7.12 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:39 AM EDT
                Reply

                Notice the press has nothing to say about President Obama's campaign? No inner tension between competing factions, no disgruntled staffers with an ax to grind, no shadowy insiders meeting journalists in a parking garage.

                We finally have a functional presidency, an effective foreign policy, a likeable crew and Republicans are asking us to "throw the competent ones out?" Throw them out and replace them with rightwing nut jobs who don't even like each other?

                • 41 votes
                Reply#8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

                Amy, great point. Can't imagine people voting for an unknown entity like Romney let alone one who thinks he doesn't have to follow the same precedent setting rules of other candidates. What is Mitt Romney hiding? Why does he refuse to release his taxes?

                It isn't just the left asking what Mitt's policies really are and doesn't trust him. The right has placed their money on a guy whose own previous positions are in opposition to theirs. I do not understand the GOP which more often than not chooses candidates they don't like to run for president. Guess it is true, democrats fall in love with their candidates while republicans fall in line.

                • 35 votes
                #8.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

                Excellent points Amy & Jody ... best line of the day ..

                democrats fall in love with their candidates while republicans fall in line.

                So very true!

                • 33 votes
                #8.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                Amy, you can't be serious.

                Please, and I mean please, check any other website and take a look at the turmoil in Obama's campaign. That silly Steelworker Ad has them twisting in knots.

                Lots of people don't like Biden for the VP.

                You don't know it because you only get your news from the lefty sites.

                If nothing else, at least I am here getting the other sides story. Agree or not, I know what they are reporting.

                So the Feisty's of the world can call me all the names she wants. At least I have the guts to check out the rest of the story.

                • 11 votes
                #8.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

                Layton, thanks.

                WCA, the only turmoil on the Obama side is the turmoil imagined in the right-wing minds. Only GOPers are throwing fits over Obama and Obama's SuperPAC ads and that's because the Obama ads are great and the right knows it. It's why they're throwing hissy fits every day.

                • 28 votes
                #8.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

                Four years ago, people were saying we couldn't elect then-Senator Obama because he had never run anything. Well---except for successful campaigns for state office and for the Senate and then he ran a flawless Presidential campaign. Romney, the business genius, can't seem to run an effective campaign and can't rally his party around him. With friends like Mitt's (except for the 1%), he doesn't need enemies. Perhaps their goal is to take the talk away from Mitt's taxes.

                • 25 votes
                #8.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

                If Romney is so bad, why is the race so tight? What does it say about Obama?

                • 3 votes
                #8.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                So, White Collar, I did just visit FOX, to be"fair"and I read the article about Stephanie Cutter denying she knew details about the steelworker's wife dying of cancer. So, Republicans are attacking her, what has that got to do with "tensions in the Obama campaign?"

                PS Interesting article about the doctor extracting the lego that was in the kid's nose for three years : )

                • 14 votes
                #8.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                If Romney is so bad, why is the race so tight? What does it say about Obama?

                The newest research from Nate has it as:
                Today

                “Obama chance of winning 72.5% Romney 27.5%”

                Projected Winner Obama 302.3

                Projected Loser Romney 235.7

                • 18 votes
                #8.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                Throw them out and replace them with rightwing nut jobs who don't even like each other?

                I would suggest that it's even worse than that. They not only don't like each other. They don't even like themselves.

                Think what the core of the Republican platform is - more money to the rich so that they can decide who to trickle it down to. Whereas, if you raise taxes on the rich people and use it to pay down the deficit, it benefits everyone financially, including the rich. The drawback? The middle class can give the finger to the rich because they can get another job. It is the rich who have to compete for the middle class, whereas in a slow economy or a recession, it is the other way around.

                They don't want more money. What they want is more power and they are willing to take less money, a slower economy, and a greater national deficit to achieve it.

                • 11 votes
                #8.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

                MSNBC is alternately accused of being Liberal and Conservative. Whenever I see such accusations I laugh. They show the bias in the poster.

                • 4 votes
                #8.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                AMY,

                Well done. That was a 'checkmate' in record time. White collar wildly digging for more pseudo facts from Fox fairytales

                • 6 votes
                #8.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

                thetotas

                If Romney is so bad, why is the race so tight? What does it say about Obama?

                Mittens is spending far more money then Obama, Mittens is taking in far more money then Obama, yet Obama is not behind, Obama is in fact leading the way, Why is that?

                its because no matter how much money mittwit spends, the people are able to discern the truth. the people are not stupid, poor yes, stupid no. We know a changeling when we see one. We know that mittens is not a man of the people. He trys to come off like a regular person but inside he's squirming to get away from the unwashed masses. We sense that. We know. You wont win mittens and you're just making the whole long affair painful for everyone. Go home already.

                • 6 votes
                #8.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

                Well, the fact of the matter is, Romney is Bush III, and we have already seen where that went! Come up with something new, Romney, or suffer the same fate in history that Bush will!

                • 2 votes
                #8.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:29 PM EDT
                Reply

                MSNBC loves to try to find trouble among the republicans when it doesn't exist. They should be considered a PAC.

                • 3 votes
                #9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

                gmk, your post has to be one of the funniest ones I've read in a LONG time! No trouble amongst the Republicans? Did you READ the article above??????

                • 31 votes
                #9.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                gmk.........oh the trouble is there alright and it was in full bloom on Hannity, Ann Coulter has Mitt the Twit on her s**t list and with good reason, and that's not a place he wants to be.

                MSNBC is just reporting the facts as they happen, tapes and all, which seems to be a blind spot for the right, they forget that everything is taped today.

                • 31 votes
                #9.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                gmk-numbers, De-nile, it's not just a river in Egypt. :)

                • 23 votes
                #9.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

                As opposed to Fairy Tales and Unbalanced news from FIXED news?

                • 12 votes
                #9.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                MSNBC a pac? And what do you call Fox News?

                • 20 votes
                #9.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                How about you all go over to Fox and see how the Democrat Party is doing today?

                You might be in for a surprise.

                • 6 votes
                #9.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                Were you not paying attention during the Primaries?

                ...and suddenly now you expect everything to be copacetic???

                • 14 votes
                #9.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                Why? so we can be lied to, lied about and lied on? Funny.

                • 9 votes
                #9.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                And you WCA, come in with the second funniest comment of the day . . . .

                How about you all go over to Fox and see how the Democrat Party is doing today

                We all know how truthful Fox is (although I may have to wander over to watch Ann's head explosion . . )

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/the-ten-most-egregious-fo_n_327140.html

                • 14 votes
                #9.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

                Layton,

                Ann Coulter's head is always exploding, what's the big deal?

                • 8 votes
                #9.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                the totas,

                from reading some of the comments above, this one was bigger than usual.

                • 9 votes
                #9.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                To Fox's credit, they did quote the Obama spokesman in the article on Cutter:

                Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt stressed Wednesday, in response to the criticism, that "we can't coordinate with super PACs and didn't produce" the ad.

                Joe Soptic suffered when he lost his job in the aftermath of the GST Steel plant closing, and no one is denying that he discussed that when he appeared in a campaign advertisement and on a conference call. The important point here is that Mitt Romney's campaign is based solely on his experience as a corporate buyout specialist, and while he has been quick to claim he created jobs, he refuses to accept responsibility for the jobs that were lost and workers that were impacted

                Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/romney-asks-where-hope-and-change-went-amid-furor-over-ad-obama-aides-response/#ixzz235EFaS2z

                • 7 votes
                #9.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                Layton,

                Yea, I saw it last night, she wouldn't let it go.

                • 5 votes
                #9.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                How about you all go over to Fox and see how the Democrat Party is doing today?

                This is why:

                STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

                Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5#ixzz235H9OnV1

                Here's an excerpt from the article:

                On average, people correctly answered 1.6 of 5 questions about domestic affairs.

                They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all. Those watching only "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" answered 1.42 questions correctly and people who only listened to NPR or only watched Sunday morning political talk shows answered 1.51 questions correctly.

                That's one study you won't find at Fox News.

                • 15 votes
                #9.14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                Thanks for the link Amy. I read the article as well and found it very straight forward. I couldn't find the article about the kid with the lego in his nose! :(

                • 3 votes
                #9.15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                imagine waking up with ann.

                • 2 votes
                #9.16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

                Layton -

                Here it is. And amazingly enough, they don't even claim it was all Obama's fault!

                http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/08/09/doctors-remove-lego-wheel-from-boys-nose-after-3-years/print

                • 6 votes
                #9.17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                Clearly it was. ;-p

                • 3 votes
                #9.18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

                Question , is Fox News banned [still] in Canada due to it's lack of integrity ?

                • 4 votes
                #9.19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                MSNBC loves to try to find trouble among the republicans when it doesn't exist.

                Nope! Face it! Even Republicans can't vote for Romney without hol;ding their noses! Why won't the Republican party offer a popular candidate?

                • 3 votes
                #9.20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:32 PM EDT
                Reply

                Etch-a-sketch.

                • 17 votes
                Reply#10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                Trouble in paradise.

                Time to activate the magic underwear.

                Magic underwear activated.

                Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

                zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

                Nothings happening, sorry Mitt I guess the Mormon cult is just a bunch of bull@!$%# too.

                • 22 votes
                Reply#11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                Maybe he has a secret elevator in his pants like his garage.

                • 14 votes
                #11.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

                John,

                It didn't work because he put on Anne's and the Buzzing you heard.........well that was for a different reason.

                • 9 votes
                #11.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                You're right Ann's comes equipped with Joni's Butterfly.

                • 6 votes
                #11.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                Nope, not picking on Ann. She can't help it if "pitiful" is one of her husband requirements.

                • 5 votes
                #11.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                John,

                Not being Morman, what the heck is this magic underwear stuff?

                • 2 votes
                #11.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                Here ya go, russian1. This should help

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment

                • 2 votes
                #11.6 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:39 AM EDT
                Reply

                Lets not end up with another Bush wanna be democrat.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                Nobody likes Romney.

                Still, he's not Obama so he has my vote. That's how terrible Obama is.

                • 10 votes
                #13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                You mean that's how much you hate black people while listening to The Fix Lie Noise Channel

                • 19 votes
                #13.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                You watch too much Faux news, you have a brain think for youself

                • 11 votes
                #13.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                Totally agree ct

                • 3 votes
                #13.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

                Joyce - If a brain makes me think like you - I don't one

                  #13.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                  Just another brain-washed right-winger. Now you toe that party line son. Don't want you to make an educated judgement call. Just vote who the party tells you to vote for, think what the party wants you to think, don't ask questions and God forbid please don't think for yourself!

                  • 14 votes
                  #13.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                  Clyde - you are an idiot - just another lefty that thinks we should all be like them. My brain works just fine and I don't watch FOX.

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                  Change your own Diaper, Change Needed.

                  Another I don't watch Faux news liar.

                  • 6 votes
                  #13.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                  How sad that so many are enamored with this utterly incompetent President merely because they think he's "cool" that they think anyone voting against him must either be not thinking for himself or racist.

                  • 5 votes
                  #13.8 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

                  Are you kidding?? Romney over Obama??? Dont be one of those that don't stand for something so you fall for anything type people. A closed mind is lost soul. In order to get something you've never had, you have to do something you've never done. Go vote and stop complaining.

                  • 7 votes
                  #13.9 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                  It has nothing to do with race. He just has failed at everything he promised to change. Fast & Furious was the last straw for me. I'm voting Romney

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.10 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                  Failed at everything he promised?? Like affordable heathcare? I see you didn't get that memo. Catching Osama? Helping people keep their jobs (auto industry) or extend the unemployment payments so people can at least eat? Or was it when he promised to start job growth? Good golly Ms Molly....So far all I've see him do is accomplish most of what he set out to accomplish. So again, what is it that he failed at? And...please don't say he failed at gun control because we all know that's a decade in the making or never if the NRA continues to have politicians in their pockets. And that my friend was way before Obama even thought about running for president.

                  • 10 votes
                  #13.11 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                  Been there, please list a few things that he said he'd change and was unable to.

                  Don't mention closing Gitmo because he tried, also don't just make up bull@!$%# or use someone Else's bull@!$%#.

                  Also the Blueprint for Fast and Furious was developed under the previous administration.

                  • 8 votes
                  #13.12 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                  BeenThere

                  Bush failed to get Osama bin Laden after 9/11, and you voted to re-elect him. I think we all know what your "standards" are. You vote for the Republican, whoever it is.

                  • 9 votes
                  #13.13 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                  Fast & Furious is Obama's idea of "transparency in Gvt". Out of Afghanistan iby his second year. Wanted to leave some troops, 60,000 in Iraq - but Iraq kicked out butts out. F&F was not to sell thousands of weapons to the Cartel. Just like our debt - it's ballooned out of control. You think it's bad now but he wants to add more debt on us, we a worse than broke.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                  Bush was horrible President racked up lots of debt, got us in a war, etc.

                  Obama is Bush on steroids.

                  - Create more 5 TRILLION more in debt,
                  - Unemployment still 8.3 and rising at the time
                  - Lost net number of jobs since he took office
                  - Split the country further in Race
                  - Kept us in Wars
                  - Lack of Transparency (i.e. have to pass the bill so we can read what's in it)
                  - Raised taxes on lower and middle class - health-care new tax just to name
                  one
                  - Raised health insurance premiums on lower and middle class by this new
                  tax and law
                  - Hasn't address REAL tax reform
                  - has more people on public assistance programs
                  - Nationalized the Car industry which is in the toilet again and won't be able to
                  pay its debt owned to all of us, should have went through bankruptcy court
                  just like the airline industry has multiple times

                  The list keeps on going.

                  I DON"T Like Republicans or Democrats... They both are liars and cheaters
                  Right now they are the only ones (the real 1%ers) getting rich off of all of us.

                  But Bush is at least gone

                  • 2 votes
                  #13.15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                  ctviking...according to your statement, you would be dumb enough to vote for Charles Manson. That does not make you a very good person in most human's perspective.

                  People wonder how Hitler rose to power? It was because of thoughtless people like ctviking.

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

                  Oh...and, for the record, ct"viking"...All of the Scandanavian countries have become beautiful examples of functional socialism. When do you plan to evolve from "rape and pillage" into something functional?

                  • 4 votes
                  #13.17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                  Bob,

                  Too bad you don't actually look at what you post. Stick with pushing crap down a pipe:

                  - Create more 5 TRILLION more in debt - A direct result of the previous Admin's policies and the economy collapsing
                  - Unemployment still 8.3 and rising at the time - A direct result of the previous Admin's policies and the economy collapsing
                  - Lost net number of jobs since he took office - A direct result of the previous Admin's policies and the economy collapsing
                  - Split the country further in Race - Purely GOP, the left tried to work with the right but the right gave us the bird.
                  - Kept us in Wars - 1 is over, the 2nd is winding down pretty quickly.
                  - Lack of Transparency (i.e. have to pass the bill so we can read what's in it)
                  - Raised taxes on lower and middle class - health-care new tax just to name
                  one - More lies, taxes are the lowest ever. I am middle class and my taxes went down.
                  - Raised health insurance premiums on lower and middle class by this new
                  tax and law- More lies, my premiums haven't moved.
                  - Hasn't address REAL tax reform - Done by congress, not the president.
                  - has more people on public assistance programs - - A direct result of the previous Admin's policies and the economy collapsing
                  - Nationalized the Car industry which is in the toilet again and won't be able to pay its debt owned to all of us, should have went through bankruptcy court just like the airline industry has multiple times. - It recovered because of the bailout which was enacted under Bush and continued by Obama.

                  The list keeps on going. - And non of it is legit.

                    #13.18 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                    missed one:

                    - Lack of Transparency (i.e. have to pass the bill so we can read what's in it) - No presidency has ever been this transparent, ever.

                      #13.19 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

                      Shockedanddisgusted:

                      EXACTLY! The GOP mimic the rise of the National Socialists in Germany to a "T".

                      Goebbels would be TO ENVIOUS of the FOX Propaganda machine. Bush allowed 9/11 to happen to MIMIC the Reichstag fire. The GOP is working from the SAME PLAYBOOK.

                      It SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME!

                      • 2 votes
                      #13.20 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:00 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      The so-called "religious right," the republicans who forever have thought they had exclusive rights on Christianity, are now faced with a difficult decision: Do they support the Christian Democrat, or the non-Christian (Mormon) Republican? It's a reality and a decision that they are neither used to nor comfortable with.

                      • 24 votes
                      Reply#14 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

                      What to do what to do.............Let's ask Jessie Jackson, Sr.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                      The GOP is NOT CHRISTIAN. They have gone anti-choice and anti-gay to pander to them, but NO CHRISTIAN would EVER espouse the principles of greed and avarice that are the stock in trade of the GOP.

                      • 2 votes
                      #14.2 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:02 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      No tension...Willard will do his famous weather vane spin and get it all under control..ha..ha..ha...we need another clown car..this one is full and it looks more like a Fred Flintstone car....feet are all movin'..ain't goin..anywhere..Keep me laughing Mittens!!!

                      • 17 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                      I don't know about Ryan, but they are welcome to Gov. Walker.

                      • 14 votes
                      Reply#16 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                      Catherine,

                      We, here in Florida, have a twofer special, Rubio or Scott.

                      • 16 votes
                      #16.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                      Take our Tea Party Governor...please!

                      • 12 votes
                      #16.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                      PhinePhancy, we're both in Florida. I'm in Jacksonville, where are you? I'm a 3.5 year survivor of ovarian cancer. I'm praying for you, honey.

                      • 9 votes
                      #16.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                      Phine

                      Think you're a couple of laps behind. It's your bedtime.

                        #16.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

                        Ryan is Walker on Steroids. Really. A FIXED VOUCHER in place of MEDICARE?

                        Add "you elderly go die now" to "you poor go die now".

                        Ryan is SATAN!

                          #16.5 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          All you voting for Romney because he isn't Obama, just remember the last time that happenned, we ended up with Jimmy Carter.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#17 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT
                          Comment author avatarCommon Man-3493893Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Ole Jimmy Carter looks pretty good when compared to what we got in the White House now.

                          • 9 votes
                          #17.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                          See, the GOP and fans just will never learn. See ya in November, Peanut Man.

                          • 6 votes
                          #17.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                          You mean that's how much you hate black people while listening to The Fix Lie Noise Channel

                          • 9 votes
                          #17.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                          @solution

                          Pull the f**kin black card, how cowardly. Don't care what color the skin is, want someone in the Whitehouse that can do the job and it sure isn't Obummer.

                          • 4 votes
                          #17.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

                          ROMNEY 2012

                          • 4 votes
                          #17.5 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

                          Here's the thing. I'm voting for Obama. I've seen Mitt, and his positions have changed enough that I really don't know what he will do in office. But I don't hate him. I'm not pleased about some of Obama's actions, but I think that overall he did the best he could with what was going on when he was elected. And I don't think he did ANYTHING that warrant's the amount of hate filled speech that I've heard from conservatives. He has done nothing that has changed our society greatly or put us in imminent danger. Oh, and I am from Massachusetts, so I don't count the Affordable Care Act as a huge societal change. (and before you flame me, I have voted for Republicans, both state wide and in national elections).

                          • 11 votes
                          #17.6 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

                          IndyDem

                          You have just confessed that you have "lost your mind." What a shame.

                            #17.7 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:10 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            gmk-2013680.....you said:

                            Quote.....They should be considered a PAC......EndQuote

                            Well, at least NBC is an American corporation, which is more than can be said with certainty about some of those contributing to Romney.

                            It took us a while to figure out that most of you folks could not care less about Christianity. Now, we are realizing you also don't hold democracy in the high regard you would have others believe. No, it's "capitalism" to which you kneel.

                            Benito Mussolini Quote....
                            "il corporativismo è la pietra angolare dello Stato fascista, anzi lo Stato fascista o è corporativo o non è fascista"
                            Translation:
                            "corporatism is the corner stone of the Fascist nation, or better still, the Fascist nation is corporative or it is not fascist".....EndQuote

                            Mitt Romney Quote......Corporations are people my friend.....EndQuote

                            • 21 votes
                            Reply#18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

                            Corporations are people? That's because he's been using his corps as family members poising as deductions on his taxes. Show those taxes Mitt.

                            • 9 votes
                            #18.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:47 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            Fox news reads Evil. I don't understand how so many people's thinking can be so easily co-opted.

                            • 11 votes
                            Reply#19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                            To me this talk is all fodder. Romney has already chosen Tim Pawlenty and it will be the biggest mistake he ever makes. Put a fork in this campaign its done like a burnt piece of toast.

                            Romney is deathly afraid of someone with bold ideas and bold personality. It will overshadow his meakness and he and his wife can't have that. Only leaves one guy, Pawlenty.

                            I would wager if one could have seen his short list, Christie, Rubio, Rice, Santorum and a few others were not even on it.

                            • 11 votes
                            Reply#20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                            So the VP will be a bigger Pu$$ then Mutt? Yup, makes sense. If you can make any sense of out the GOP campaign.

                            • 9 votes
                            #20.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                            Suds in Denver

                            Don't get the "big head." There's more to come and you will not like it. Obama is history come November.

                              #20.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:40 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              One of these moments, Romney may evolve a spine and tell Rove and his devil's disciples that they actually taught him ethics and morality in all those rich kid's schools once in a while, and he really wants to go to heaven so ---off! Repub party is pulling apart due to conscience/soul telling brain, there is a right and wrong and we need to stop this random thought generator.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#21 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                              Don't hold your breath.

                              There are those of us who still want to know who generated those lying Swift Boat ads in 2004. Politics are too dirty now. President Obama rose above that in his last campaign, but I'm glad to see he's fighting just as dirty as the other side this time.

                              4 more for 44!

                              • 7 votes
                              #21.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:11 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              What the GOP seems to want these days is someone exactly like Dick Cheney but 20 years younger and in good health.

                              • 12 votes
                              Reply#22 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

                              Sorry, Steve, a younger Dick Cheney wouldn't fit the bill either - gay marriage.

                              • 3 votes
                              #22.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                              OMG - I just threw up in my mouth. The man is evil and probably has a 666 on his transplanted heart.

                              • 6 votes
                              #22.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                              OMG - you just reminded me! Now I know why my insurance premiums went up. All his pace-makers and heart attacks and transplant meds....

                              • 2 votes
                              #22.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:45 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              I have a friend in Jersey at a sign company that has already began printing Romney/Portman signs,buttons and other assorted paraphernalia.....it's a done deal.....they should also print out two copies of his concession speech...one for him and an extra in case they find somebody who cares...

                              • 13 votes
                              Reply#23 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                              Ohhhhh....that is toooooo funny, Cowboy!!!! If it is Portman, the Dems will kill him as he was involved with George W. and his budget team....8 years that didn't go well for all of us. What was the deficit GW left us??

                              • 8 votes
                              #23.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                              He had a $9 trillion when he came in and went out on a $14 trillion dollar deficit, IIRC. Portman is a poison pill for Romney. What a stupid choice! Go, you stupid Mittens, go!

                              • 5 votes
                              #23.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                              That's because the Bush administration gave the hand outs before Obama came into office.The money used after Obama came into office was to Give the Republican banks money, so they didn't go down the toilet and take our country with them. Also giving states money to help pay their public servants. Oh yes the little tax break we got, yes a democratic tax break.He save the country the crooks try to destroy

                                #23.3 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:30 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                The LIES and vacillating not working for Mitt. Stop following Karl Rove he will drive you down the dirty lane of politics and leave you in the sewer Stand up like a man Mitt show some backbone and campaign like a true politician . I wouldnt vote for you though you are too shifty, etchy sketch dont beckon vote, show plans

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#24 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                                How's that hope and change working for you Joyce? It's not working for me, but I work for a living, I don't sit on my butt collecting Obama's handouts.

                                • 3 votes
                                #24.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                                Change needed---I work for a living and proudly support President Obama's re-election. I am better off than I was 4 years ago and our country is as well. GM is alive and Osama bin Laden is dead. While the Republicans have tried their hardest to stomp on hope and change, I believe that both take time and won't be achieved by going backward to the policies that got us into a mess in the first place.

                                • 20 votes
                                #24.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                                I see you soiled your diaper again Change Needed.

                                How's that do nothing Congress working for the Country, I guess it's all about you.

                                It's not working for me, but I work for a living, I don't sit on my butt collecting Obama's handouts.

                                You have a Job and things aren't working out for you. WTF

                                Sounds more like a bigotry issue for you.

                                • 12 votes
                                #24.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                                It's working for me, retired 2 years ago.

                                • 7 votes
                                #24.4 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                Change Needed-6255376

                                It's working MUCH better now than 4 years agao when we were hemoraging 900,000 jobs a quarter and the stock market was at 6500 (half of what it is now). Actually quite amazing progress in the face of a congress that has done less than any in history... (no wonder that have an approval rating of 12%)

                                You must have been working for Bain 4 years ago?

                                • 4 votes
                                #24.5 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:47 AM EDT

                                President Obama's policies have stabilized the market and ultimately have increased our companies dollar volumes of business from a low of $310 million back to pre 2005 levels of $740 million.

                                The across the board 20% wage cuts everyone in our company took to stay in business has been returned and with nominal 2% last year, 4% 2012.....everyone is making more money.

                                Overtime is back to the norm for the hourly employees who want it.

                                We are on the right track.

                                I will be voting for President Obama - he stands for what I believe in that America should be Righteous, True and Strong and we have a very clear chaoice to make.

                                This election is a choice between two visions for the future of America: One vision is for continuation of the progressive vision of a balance between equality and freedom as the moral foundation of justice, and a more recent conservative vision of an entitlement due the wealthy and the equivalence of corporations to the rights and protections of natural persons under the Constitution.

                                A progressive future is one in which government is a custodian of the public trust and advocates for justice; where justice is a balance between equality and freedom. Government as a custodian of the public trust means that everyone plays by the same rules and that everyone is equal before the law. Public trust means the rights of the people to preserve and protect the common property of the United States is not severable to the interests of privatization. Public trust means that a corporation has no rights except those given to it by law and does not have equal standing with a natural born person under the Constitution.

                                The conservative future is one of a hostile corporate takeover with privatization of government functions. The corporate takeover means that having wealth is an effective barrier to others participating in the process of government. It means that government would no longer serve the interests of the community but collaborate with the wealthy corporate owners to establish a separate set of laws that entitle them to preferential treatment while creating barriers to competition by eliminating opportunities for others.

                                The free market is a myth: if it isn't regulated by government to prevent fraud, it is regulated by the corporate oligarchy to prevent competition. Free means not having to go to jail for fraud and theft.

                                Freedom of speech for corporations is a political myth: the right to free speech is a right of the natural born person, not an artifact of legal convention.

                                The conservative options for health care are no birth control, no abortion and no health insurance unapproved by a corporate CEO. The progressive option is universal health care and the right of women to make their own health decisions.

                                This election is a moral choice between affiliation or aggression, empathy or egotism, service or selfishness, cooperation or competitiveness.

                                The tale of two visions is the difference between a government of the people, by the people and for the people, and a government run by a plutocracy of corporate power.

                                President Obama

                                  #24.6 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:36 AM EDT
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                                  I think they are gonna give Mitty a blanket party at the convention.....at least it's one party where he's welcome.....it's a start....

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                                  Reply#25 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                                  Can you use a plastic bag instead?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #25.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                                  Plastic bags at $.10 a piece, are you crazy?

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                                  #25.2 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                  No, only the one that counts. I have a lot of Republican friends and we all agree to disagree and keep politics off limits for discussion. I am passionate about what I believe but I do not take my politics so far to rule my life.

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                                  #25.3 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 6:26 PM EDT
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