President Obama plans visit with victims of Colorado shooting

President Barack Obama will travel to Aurora, Colo., on Sunday to see victims of the movie theater shooting and families of victims, White House officials said.

Obama will not attend a vigil planned there for Sunday but will continue on to San Francisco, the officials said. He also will meet with local officials in Aurora.

In his weekly radio address, Obama called for prayer and reflection on the shooting rampage in Aurora, Colo., which claimed 12 lives. He urged Americans to embrace the families who lost loved ones in Aurora and to "let them know we will be there for them as a nation."

Twelve people were killed and 58 injured when a gunman opened fire early Friday at a midnight showing of "Batman: The Dark Knight Rises." James Eagan Holmes was arrested after the shooting and is being held in solitary confinement.

At a planned campaign event in Fort Myers, Fla. President Barack Obama steers away from politics and leads the nation in a moment of silence for the victims of the mass shooting in Colorado.

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Nice to see the president go to where the country mourns.

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#1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

This will only be appropriate if it is a private visit w/the victims and NOT a media event.

One venue is truly compassionate, the other self-serving and opportunistic.

Insincere motive would quickly turn Sunday into one of those "other days for politics" he spoke of.

  • 66 votes
#1.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:09 PM EDT
Comment author avatarleroy brownRestored

One party is truly "compassionate" and the other is "self-serving and opportunistic."

  • 35 votes
#1.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTonyinWyoRestored

tempusfugit1

This will only be appropriate if it is a private visit w/the victims and NOT a media event.

In that case it will be inappropriate. Nothing other than a campaign stop, geared to eroding second amendment rights.

  • 38 votes
#1.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:00 PM EDT
Comment author avatarGil-2872519Restored

Why not issue an "executive order" and give the 58 wounded survivors $50,000 each for their suffering from the US Treasury. That would buy 58 votes. Don't worry about the dead they can't vote. How about declaring the theater a disaster area and, through FEMA. Give every one in the theater a grand or two -- that will buy even more votes. BTW: Why did FEMA do such a lousy job with the tornado damage. Lack of oversight or indifference? Then again that was before the reelection campaign. Those people will not forget !!

  • 23 votes
#1.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:27 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSay What?-809562Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Gil....

Your post is asinine.....Where is your hero Mittens? He is going to the Olympics

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  • 53 votes
#1.5 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

What would be a wonderful gesture is to call the other candidate and go to see the families, as to avoid people accusing them of politicizing the crime. We're so far away from each other fighting if you are a liberal or a conservative, gay or straight, married or single... after all the bullets did not choose political side.

  • 19 votes
#1.6 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

What would be a wonderful gesture is to call the other candidate and go to see the families, as to avoid people accusing them of politicizing the crime

One candidate is simply that- a person who wants to be president- while the other IS the President of the United States. President Obama need not call Mittens for anything.

  • 44 votes
#1.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:01 AM EDT
Comment author avatarskor154Restored

Okay, now what is this president, shallow on substance, about as conscious as Bush, going to do about this? Okay, he's going to address stringent laws on gun control? Oh, gosh, what a laughing jolly. Okay, how did a psycho gain access to so many horrific human butchers, i.e., arsenals of human killers?

Shouldn't we begin to question, such easy access for a a psycho to gain such access to a human killing machine, arsenal? Is Obama going to pick up this torch and run into the end zone or is he going to simply utter simplistic words that apply to nothing... As usual. Exactly, what were his words in the aftermath of this human slaughter?

Whata leader; what a guy. Okay, what are his interpretations and suggestions for a greater and safer tomorrow? I'm totally lost!

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarGil-2872519Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Say What: Re mine at 1.4 (now collapsed) I don't respond to idiocy.

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:38 AM EDT

Mitt has planned to travel abroad now? Why not also go to Colorado to say something appropriate?

  • 21 votes
#1.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:39 AM EDT

That is the last thing the police need right now is the President coming into town... get a grip... they have enough on their plate without trying to protect him also... sorry... he should show his condolences BUT not be there to add to the media hype & make it a political showing! They are busy enough trying to gather evidence, etc. & deal with all of the families & tragedy... that just creates more chaos! Not a good idea right now!

  • 39 votes
#1.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

Pigotry: Where do you create your "facts" from. Don't you follow the news, if not don't comment, Romney's planned trip abroad had been widely publicized far before the shooting.

  • 22 votes
#1.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarPigotryRestored

Well, a good common-sensical pragmatic smart politician can always alter the foreign trip schedule, and show some compassion in Colorado.

so I guess Mitt is NOT GOOD, NOT COMMON-SENSICAL, NOT PRAGMATIC, NOT SMART, NOT COMPASSIONATE!

  • 22 votes
#1.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:00 AM EDT

mittens is leaving the country? :\

  • 7 votes
#1.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:01 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRepublicansForObama-6186389Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

God Bless you President Obama for protecting us People of Color, and watching out for the best interests of our Policemen, Firemen, Teachers, our brave Soldiers, Women, all the Children, the Poor, the Mexican and the Gay community, and of course all us Middle-class and the Undecided voters.

You understand us. You don't try Hide your Taxes from the public because of shady financial dealings, you don't Laundry your money in phony shell-companies in the Cayman Islands. and you definitely don't have hidden Swiss Bank accounts.

Looks like Mitt and the Republicans only have to watch out for the shady financial dealings of their "own kind", you know, Rich white Republicans.

Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012, you'll be glad you did.

And I'm a Republican, so there!

  • 32 votes
#1.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:15 AM EDT

President Obama is going to Colorado to mourn with his fellow citizens. It is the right thing for him to do. Mitt "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney can follow occasional televised news reports of the grieving families of the victims from his penthouse suite in England. He cares about the little people of this country in the same way he cares about his dog.

  • 30 votes
#1.16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarDarbobRestored

Can you imagine what some of these righties would say if Obama did not plan on visiting the victims? Wow..talk about Republicans taking their "Disgree with everyting hte President does" strategy.

As far as Mitt goes, he can go on his trip. Yes, it was planned before the shooting, so heaven forbid a rich man have to change his plans.

  • 25 votes
#1.17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:45 AM EDT

Mitt isn't even the GOP nominee yet, just the frontrunning candidate. Going to Aurora to visit with the victims and families would be extremely presumptuous on his part. Frankly, I'm surprised he's not going.

  • 15 votes
#1.18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:11 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFedupwithFedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Of course Barry is going....its a PHOTO OP!

Funny, why didn't he go to Chicago? How many of his own have been killed there? I guess the family of the 10 yr old girl dont matter as much as Trayvon?

Of course watch his THUG buddy Rham and his cronies at an antiviolence march

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/bill-kellys-truth-squad/2012/jul/17/Rahm-staff-assault-conservative-reporter-chicago/

  • 23 votes
#1.19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:26 AM EDT
Comment author avatarGrandpa-2986035Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

How can you be so hateful, also stupid?

  • 15 votes
#1.20 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:56 AM EDT
Comment author avatarNecieExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Who are "his own" Fed? You are an ignorant and stupid racist. So, I guess that out-of-touch robot-arse is "your kind", huh. Boy, you racist are the most ignorant and uneducated folks in the world. Just renewed your KKK membership, huh? Klansman from the bottom of your dirty, filthy little heart. By, the way, the last time I looked, the President was the leader of all the people, if I had to accept the fact that "the War Criminal & Co." was my president (puke) for eight years, you can accept this one for eight, and guess what, you don't have to see a 911 attack, a city of people drowning, or see your son or daughter sent off to another senseless war. You, by far, got the better end of the deal.

  • 18 votes
#1.21 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

Romney won't go - he might get asked what he intends to do about gun control. Neither candidate wants to answer that question before an election and the R's can't say anything other than REDUCE regulation. More likely, Romney will attend the NRA rally after this event.

President Obama is the Consoler-in-Chief for the country - I would be disappointed if he didn't go due to the extent of the tragedy.

Bush went to NY for 911 and stood on the debris pile for a tremendous photo op. Not to mention the "Mission Accomplished" debacle.

  • 12 votes
#1.22 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:18 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFedupwithFedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Grow up! Apparently YOU are the racist! That was Obama's community organizer TURF! Who said anything about race?

But now that you mention it.........what about the blacks pushing a white reporter out of the way and preventing him from doing his job???? The cops asking for his press credentials and none of the other reporters? Hmmmm

Peace....I dont think you can compare 9-11 to what happened in Colorado, sorry

  • 12 votes
#1.23 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

Ah, nothing like a non-stop deluge of hate and discontent between the mindless political masses to foster peace and goodwill after such a terrible tragedy.

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. Reading the hate filled comments of so many of you on both sides of the political aisle tends to do that to me. I guess it's asking too much of most of you to actually grow up and act like mature adults for a change.

God forbid you people actually act with sI ome thought, simple decency or even just a desire to NOT hate each other for once.

"You are an ignorant and stupid racist" "guess the family of the 10 yr old girl dont matter as much as Trayvon?" "And I'm a Republican, so there!" "He cares about the little people of this country in the same way he cares about his dog."

What a pathetic bunch of children.

  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

It will be a media event.. Remember when the dead came home from the Middle East - it was supposed to be a private event. Whitehouse milked it with photos everywhere - embarrassing.

  • 20 votes
#1.25 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:03 AM EDT
Comment author avatarflexmindRestored

I can see why Obama needs to visit the place where he paid good money to have Holmes kill those 12 and injure 58 right before the U.N. Small Arms Treaty signing. He needs to see his handy work. They have already killed 200 Mexicans and a couple of border agents. What is a few more killings to get your point across. You libs think you know @!$%#. This is fair warning!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.26 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:04 AM EDT

WHat a disgusting comment about the president. Just tell me what other president has done anything for gun laws?? ignorantant to continue to blame this president for what so many others haven't also done.

  • 12 votes
#1.27 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

If your child were murdered by a madman, would it make you feel any better if Obama knocked on your door to "console" you?

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarPigotryRestored

The reason Mitt will not go to Colorado to show compassion is that his compassion is with the National Rifle Ass. (NRA).

Mitt himself is a NRA (Nutty Rightwing Ass)

  • 11 votes
#1.29 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

yes jo1022joe it would mean the world to me.

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

It's the compassionate thing to do. Plain and simple. Why do you on the right want to use it as an unneeded addition to the division in this country?

  • 13 votes
#1.31 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:20 AM EDT
Comment author avatarrushlessRestored

Why would the folks of Colorado want to see Romney, just so he could come over there and lie to them about how sorry he is. The President is a kind caring man, his visit would be much appreciated and appropriate.

Romney go overseas and show those folks what a pathalogical liar you are, they will know the minute you open your disgusting mouth.

Obama-2012

  • 20 votes
#1.32 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

*snickers and goes back for more popcorn*

Ah the entertainment value in this place never ends. You ideologues on both sides of the political aisle are always good for a laugh. Keep em coming.

Oh, and thanks for being a constant reminder of what mature adults DON'T look like. Play on children.

  • 1 vote
#1.33 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

Pigoty: Your collapsed at 1.13 and attack at 1.29. Romney is not going on vacation. He has a schedule to meet with foreign dignitaries which you can't change as easily as swimming in the Bahamas.

What evidence do you have that the NRA was involved in this anymore than the Democratic Party or the KKK.

I'll not respond to your idiocy again.

  • 8 votes
#1.34 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

Flexmine, you have been down in the bunker too long and drank too much Conspiracy Kool-Aid. It is sad that we have a minority of folks that think like you do. You should consider changing your handle to "mindless fool"

  • 7 votes
#1.35 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

I would like to see the president take bold action, but not while families mourn. How about an address to the nation in a few weeks: outlining plans to ban assault rifles (with 100 bullet mags,) and other weapons of mass destruction that have nothing to do with hunting or sporting? There must be a way to prevent nuts, wackos, drug dealers and other criminals from getting their hands on these vile weapons. There is nothing in the Constitution which would prohibit an effective national data base, required gun safety training courses, extensive background checks, and other sensible regulations that would hinder nuts from buying weapons at Bass Pro Shop to shoot up movie theaters. Mr. President, despite the rabble from close-minded NRA leaders, on this one...the masses would be with you.

  • 8 votes
#1.36 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

On Friday the 13th (April 13), Mitt the Nutty Rightwing Ass. (NRA) praised 'freedom' in his speech to the National Rifle Ass. (NRA).

Nothing against NRA, really. It's just that the good people (including the Colorado victims) have a right to life too, against the freedom of the shooter.

  • 11 votes
#1.37 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

Motz in KC,

Your ignorance is as amusing as it is pathetic. I am going to attempt to educate you, though I doubt you'll listen...but here are a few REAL facts to clue you in:

Fact: There is no such thing as a "100 bullet mag". I don't know what science fiction you're reading these days...but outside of a heavy machine gun, there is no assault weapon with that high a capacity...and certainly not one that can be legally purchased by Joe Citizen.

Fact: No law would have kept this person from owning purchasing a weapon. This person had NO criminal background which would have barred them from purchasing a firearm.

Fact: No law ever created will keep someone from killing someone else if they are determined to do so. Get that through your head. I'll say it again so you'll hear it. NO LAW WILL STOP A KILLER!!!

Fact: There are already background checks done on people who purchase firearms.

And despite what you erroneously think, "the masses" would not be behind more and more regulations that only punish law abiding citizens and do nothing to deter criminals and psychopaths. You can pass the toughest laws you want, but if someone is determined to get a gun and is even moderately intelligent, they will find a way to get a gun.

Do yourself a favor and get some critical thinking skills, because yours are a joke.

  • 8 votes
#1.38 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

"Fact: There is no such thing as a "100 bullet mag". I don't know what science fiction you're reading these days...but outside of a heavy machine gun, there is no assault weapon with that high a capacity...and certainly not one that can be legally purchased by Joe Citizen."

Here is a 100 round magazine to equip an AR-15 that is being offered for sale by a retailer through the mail. You are 100% wrong on that "fact" and the rest of your alleged facts are equally bogus. Fail.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/MAG-056

The Second Amendment does not exist merely to protect the pathetic fantasies of immature wannabe Rambos. Assault rifles, .50 cal sniper rifles, and "street sweeper" style shotguns must be banned for the protection of the public.

  • 12 votes
#1.39 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

Sailcat,

I stand corrected on that. Must be fairly new. I was under the impression that magazines like that weren't legal. Guess they are after all. Still, it's irrelevant since all the anti-gun fanatics want to ban the weapon itself and not the magazine. They don't have that right, fortunately.

As for "the protection of the public"...sorry but that argument lacks any logic. Using your logic, no one should allowed to drive an automobile, since so many people die in auto related accidents every year...therefore no one should drive so we can "protect the public".

It is a stupid argument for the simple fact that there will ALWAYS be risks to the public. Do you think banning these things will prevent psychopaths from causing death, misery and destruction? If you do, you're either naive or clueless, take your pick.

Come back when you actually have an intelligent argument and not one that is based on emotionally driven bullsh*t. Save the idiotic "wanna be Rambo" comments as well please. They only serve to lessen any argument you can make.

And by the way, no I don't think everyone should own an assault rifle, .50 cal or street sweeper. However, saying they can't because of what they "might" do is one of the dumbest arguments known to man and has been used to suppress freedoms since the dawn of time.

Go be a tyrant somewhere else.

  • 3 votes
#1.40 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:33 PM EDT

Sailcat,

By the way, while you may have been right about the 100 round mag, the rest of my "facts" were not "equally bogus" as you put it. Nice try though.

I'll tell you what though. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and see if you can prove my "facts" are wrong again. Good luck with that.

  • 1 vote
#1.41 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

If I remember correctly Obama was in Chicago when they had a shooting and instead of making a appearance when he was already there, he opted to go play golf! he caught some flack on that one so this time he plans on taking advantage of the situation and win some votes in Colorado, this shows me nothing, its all political.

If I was one of the Mourners and suffering from a loss the last thing I would want is to have to visit with Either politician while I am trying to come to terms with such a disaster, I don't think his visit is a sound decision in a election campaign, its tasteless to use this as a politicalbackdrop. and you all know that's all it is.

  • 7 votes
#1.42 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarrednawt1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I have yet to hear President Obama say ANYTHING about wanting to take ANYONES guns away or even to change gun laws. Now since I haven't heard that, doesn't make it so, so please show me in a reliable non-partisan place where I could be wrong. The NRA is flexing it's political muscle far more than advocating the preservation of the second amendment. Every four years they seem to expand their political agenda.

flexmind Comment collapsed by the community

I can see why Obama needs to visit the place where he paid good money to have Holmes kill those 12 and injure 58 right before the U.N. Small Arms Treaty signing. He needs to see his handy work. They have already killed 200 Mexicans and a couple of border agents. What is a few more killings to get your point across. You libs think you know @!$%#. This is fair warning!!!

Where in hell do you come up with this sh!t?? You don't like this president? Fine. Vote for who you want. Actually, please don't vote since you possess no intelligence at all to make such an important decision. You have a deranged mind and should be tailed by the FBI and CIA. My opinion that I have a 1st amendment right to. Now collapse me.

  • 4 votes
#1.43 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

Romney is on his way to mourn in BeckyBeckyBeckystan with Herman Cain.

  • 4 votes
#1.44 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste!" emanuel

  • 7 votes
#1.45 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

"Using your logic, no one should allowed to drive an automobile"

Using my logic, potential handgun owners should be given stringent training and pass a battery of tests to prove they completely understand how to properly handle, operate, and securely store their weapons. They should also be educated in the laws of their state that deal with firearms and their use. There should also be periodic checks to ensure people are maintaining a proper level of education and training concerning their weaponry. That is exactly how individuals are licensed to operate automobiles and that sort of training is lamentably absent when it comes to the ownership of guns.

So, following your fractured logic, there should be no testing or training for the operation of a motor vehicle. If we followed your insane logic, auto-related deaths would probably rise as high as the number of people who die every year in this country from firearm related causes.

  • 6 votes
#1.46 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

"I stand corrected on that. Must be fairly new."

The ban on these senseless 100 round magazines expired in 2004. They have been available to the civilian market for eight years. The reason you stand corrected is that you just don't know what you are talking about.

  • 7 votes
#1.47 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

Obama is always willing to comfort those in need if there's a camera nearby... Never miss a good photo op in an election year, right? His actions are hollow and meaningless.

  • 4 votes
#1.48 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

Obama doesn't miss a campaign opportunity. As written by a Chicago reporter;

A mass murder like Aurora, Colorado, naturally grabs the headlines and attention, as it should. A presidential recognition of the murders is appropriate.

Yet more than twice as many people have been murdered this month in the president's hometown of Chicago than were killed in the Aurora shooting. They are just statistics for whom there will be no presidential visits or flags flown at half staff.

There is little political mileage to be gained for Obama by visiting Chicago.

  • 2 votes
#1.49 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

A big difference there is it was a mass massacre in Aurora. All you on the "wrong right" should just sit back and watch as to what is to be an American, learn and become one.

  • 5 votes
#1.50 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

LOL Right Wingers will bitch and cry about ANYTHING!!

  • 7 votes
#1.51 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

It's a nice gesture that he wants to stop and speak to these families. He may make a statement when he speaks to the officials there, but I'm sure he won't turn expressing compassion to the families of the survivors into a political event. It would be nice if Romney did the same, but not because he's a candidate, but because he is a Christian man. While the families may not be supportive of Obama in November, I don't think he'd even ask them to at this point.

  • 3 votes
#1.52 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

I think if I were mourning and the President of the United States took the time to come and give me support through his words and the presence of a nation behind him, I would be very touched. It would mean that my loss is not inconsequential. It means my pain is shared in the hope of giving strength. It means the lives so cruelly taken away will not be forgotten. Obama lives his life with honesty, integrity and compassion. His desire to come to Colorado and offer a shoulder to lean and cry on, is genuine.

  • 6 votes
#1.53 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

oh brother

    #1.54 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

    damned if you do and damned if you don't. a lovely place to be.

    • 2 votes
    #1.55 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

    I dont have an issue with it.....but it should be personal...quiet and with minimal political agenda. In fact we should not even know he is there....only the people who lost family and the injured. Otherwise its a photo op. And no I would not want anyone from our government visiting me if a family member had been killed this way. I would want to be left alone with my remaining family members and friends.

    • 2 votes
    #1.56 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

    Sailcat,

    Once again your logic is a joke.

    You said

    "There should also be periodic checks to ensure people are maintaining a proper level of education and training concerning their weaponry. That is exactly how individuals are licensed to operate automobiles"

    That is not correct. People are not "periodically checked" in regards to their education and training when it comes to operating an automobile. You are tested ONCE and once you have your license, you are not tested again. Nice try though genius.

    Second falsehood on your part is that you now attempt to claim that your logic says

    Using my logic, potential handgun owners should be given stringent training and pass a battery of tests to prove they completely understand how to properly handle, operate, and securely store their weapons

    However, nowhere in your original statement did you make that assertion. Instead, you actually said

    Assault rifles, .50 cal sniper rifles, and "street sweeper" style shotguns must be banned for the protection of the public

    Funny, but I don't anything mentioned there about training, education or testing anywhere in that statement. All I see is a tyrant that says "Because these things "might" be used to hurt someone, they should be banned for the protection of the public".

    So, once again, using your REAL logic that you used in your initial comment, automobiles should be banned because they obviously pose a threat to the general public. After all, far more people are killed by automobiles than by guns every year. Yes, genius, you were wrong about that too. MORE PEOPLE DIE IN AUTOMOBILE RELATED INCIDENTS EVERY YEAR THAN BY GUN VIOLENCE!! That's a fact and you'd know that if you bothered to actually do some research instead of just hating guns because you hate guns.

    You're the one who obviously doesn't know what they're talking about.

    I also see you never were able to refute my other 2 facts. No real surprise there. Thanks for attempting to play though. It was good for a laugh. Come back anytime you want to be schooled again in logic and critical thinking.

    • 2 votes
    #1.57 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

    President Obama is everything Romney is not, a leader !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 7 votes
    #1.58 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

    He's going for one simple reason, publicity and hiping to garner votes. What a crock.

    • 7 votes
    #1.59 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

    Just follow the money trail, you will find Romney the Clown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 5 votes
    #1.60 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

    The night Katrina hit shore Bush flew to John McCain's birthday party. All the people dying and losing their homes and everthing thing they owned. Bush gave his most famous words that night.

    "Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday dear Johnnie. Happy Birthday to youoooo! Oh Boy cake and ice cream!"

    • 3 votes
    #1.61 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

    As opposed to Barry taking 9 days to visit the GULF Oil Spill???? Or worse, that he took MONTHS to stop it?

    • 4 votes
    #1.62 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

    Oh boy cake and ice cream.

      #1.63 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

      Hmmmm, kinda hard for Bush to have been helping McCain celebrate his birthday the night Katrina landed when it actually landed IN THE MORNING.

      Kinda helps to have your facts straight first...but that wouldn't fit in with your mindless rant as well huh?

      • 2 votes
      #1.64 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

      At least President Obama WENT to the Gulf. Bush flew over it during Katrina how many times before one of his dumb ass aids told him they ought to land and say "nice job Brownie"....

      • 4 votes
      #1.65 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

      Wizard....check your damn facts yourself....Bush went straight to McCains birthday. Flew straight to McCains party...........no command post, good ol Brownie had it UNDER control...NOT!

      • 1 vote
      #1.66 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

      Wiz.... From zfacts.com

      Videos and photos tell the story

      You can argue over the details, but the government videos and White House photos make one thing clear. Bush is not a take-charge President. He did nothing during the crucial two days. He's not even a "can I lend a hand" President. In the briefing the day before, he made not one suggestion—did not even ask a question.
      The day-ahead warnings were dramatically clear. Next morning, as Katrina hit New Orleans, Bush left his ranch for a drug-benefits, politicking tour starting with a birthday celebration for McCain, then a visit to "El Mirage Country Club", then on to Cucamonga, California. He missed that day's video conference on Katrina. Next day he continued his tour in California.
      His sole contribution was to “assure the folks at the state level that we are fully prepared” the day before.” That assurance flies in the face of everything he had just been told, and could not have proved more wrong.

      White House photos taken while Katrina destroyed New Oreans.
      McCain Birthday El Mirage Country Club Rancho Cucamonga

      Aug. 25, 6:30pm

      Katrina hits Florida (Cat 1).

      Aug. 28, 12:30pm

      Bush was warned "...whether the levees will be topped or not, that's obviously a very, very grave concern." Asked no questions.

      Aug. 28

      Mayor Nagin tells CNN "as soon as the levee systems are breached, there will be a tremendous amount of water, anywhere from 15 to 20 feet of water in some parts of New Orleans." Orders mandatory evacuation.

      Aug. 29, 6:10am

      Hurricane Katrina reaches New Orleans.

      Aug. 29, 8am

      Levees Overtopped.

      Aug. 29, 9:12am

      National weather service gets report of levee breach.

      Aug. 29, 11am

      After McCain birthday, Bush talks at El Mirage RV park, AZ.

      Aug. 29, 12pm

      Bush misses video briefing on Katrina.

      Aug. 29, 4:40

      Bush appears at Rancho Cucamonga, California.

      Aug. 30

      Bush continues speaking tour in California.

        #1.67 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

        "People are not "periodically checked" in regards to their education and training when it comes to operating an automobile."

        That may be how they do it in Arkansas, but most states require periodic testing, usually every five to seven years. That would be an appropriate testing period for the continued ownership of deadly weapons, too.

          #1.68 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 PM EDT

          Also, you should brush up on the definition of logic because you appear to be groping for a meaningful use of the word. While you're at it, look up integrity, moral courage, and character because those principles obviously have no meaning for you at all.

            #1.69 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

            Sail I have had a DL, in illinois, Montana, Texas , Ny York and Mass.

            None of them require retesting.

            Small wonder you Obamites have zero credibility.

              #1.70 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:01 AM EDT

              The same bunch of whiners and haters who are griping because the president went to Denver would be griping if he didn't go. This was true with the fires in Colorado Springs earlier this month. That's what some clowns in this nation do -- whine, cry, bitch, complain, moan and groan about ANYTHING this president does or doesn't do.

              • 3 votes
              #1.71 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:30 AM EDT

              You are an ignorant and stupid racist.

              Grow up! Apparently YOU are the racist!

              You have a deranged mind and should be tailed by the FBI and CIA. My opinion that I have a 1st amendment right to. Now collapse me.

              Necie, FedupwithFed, rednawt1, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

              Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

              • 1 vote
              #1.72 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

              wizard doesnt your head hurt from banging it on the wall. its an up hill battle

                #1.74 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:53 PM EDT
                Reply

                God bless our President as he tries to bring some solace to the surviving victims and the families of the deceased ones.

                • 64 votes
                Reply#2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:31 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarRocket DogRestored

                Well said. In these horrific times, he represents all of America and we weep for these families loss as they are forced to take hold of the present, dream of the past and ponder what might have been, their futures and those of their loved one forever changed.

                Indeed, God Bless our President as he steps forward with the weight of all America on his shoulders.

                • 38 votes
                #2.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:38 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarTiredTiredofBOExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                No disaster or heartbreak is too bad for him to use it as a photo op....remember this is Obama.

                • 17 votes
                #2.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

                Election year item probably will probably be a circus..in the news media!!!!!

                • 8 votes
                #2.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:25 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarTiredTiredofBOExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                3rdviewfromleft....This is a photo op for Obama.....nothing he does is heartfelt or real....sorry you trust and believe in him.

                • 22 votes
                #2.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:26 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarB.L. Frazer (NYC)Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Sorry that you don't.

                • 22 votes
                #2.5 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:40 PM EDT
                Comment author avatartdoc-3638233Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                3rdview.....God can not bless a muslim !!!

                • 10 votes
                #2.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:21 AM EDT

                after all the bullets did not choose political side.....Actually james holmes is a registered demoturd and voted for obama

                • 10 votes
                #2.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

                3rdview.....God can not bless a muslim !!!

                Spoken like a true man of god. I congratulate you on your tolerance and piety and the obvious love for all of God's creatures you must feel. You are a credit to your religion.

                • 6 votes
                #2.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

                tdoc - is it possible for God to bless a jew? Unsaved, refusing to accept Jesus as lord?

                  #2.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

                  TiredTiredofBO banned, rereg of spar2cuss.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:43 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Note to self: "Don't pass up on a political opportunity in an election year!"

                  God bless those in mourning...

                  • 32 votes
                  #3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:37 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarPhil_KRestored

                  Damn if he does, damn if he doesn't.

                  • 50 votes
                  #3.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:42 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarway2go!Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Disusted - please change your screen-name to the more appropriate "DisgustingConservative". COH be damned, I'm gonna' say it - It's a damn shame YOU weren't in the theater.

                  • 27 votes
                  #3.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:45 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarokihaditRestored

                  true, but darn, so sorry for those people, it has to be so darn hard. with that said, obuma will talk why we should have our guns taken away, but too bad someone didn't have a gun, they could of saved some lives.

                  • 13 votes
                  #3.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:45 PM EDT

                  okihadit, First Obama hasn't touched gun laws AT ALL despite all the empty rhetoric from the right. James Brady Center rates Obama an "F" in gun law. Second, Colorado is a very lax gun law state that allows concealed weapons. Obviously that didn't help, and the police was there in less than 2 minutes anyway. If another person had a gun, the police probably would have shot them for being an accomplice. Third, this guy was wearing SWAT level bullet proof clothing, threw out tear gas and used an assault weapon. Now, unless everyone wears bullet proof clothing and carry an assault weapon, I fail to see your point.

                  • 41 votes
                  #3.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                  Okihadit, if more guns would have been in that theater, more people would have died. Shots would have been fired in a smoky panic-filled theater. Everyone would have been a potential threat and more people would have been killed. This Matt Dillon mindset has got to change. You people think of things logically, in a situation were logic is out of the window. You are thinking a clear shot at this guy would have ended that all. Meanwhile, the truth is that there was smoke and coughing, panic and screaming, running and ducking. People pushing and slipping and falling on blood stained floors. Hot shell casings hitting those on the floor. It is easy to come up with a Monday morning quarterback rational, but the situation is much different than anyone could imagine.

                  Panic erases logic and all people are trying to do is survive. The shooter was wearing kevlar and was prepared to deal with shots his way. If someone was able to get of a shot at the shooter without hitting an innocent, the kevlar would have hindered that rescue option. More than likely more innocents would have been shot with multiple guns being drawn in that type of situation.

                  • 40 votes
                  #3.5 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

                  First, prayers and sympathy to those killed, wounded, and their families.

                  okihadit - you mean to say that with the shooter in body armor and moving around in a dark theater with smoke and tear gas in the room and panicked people running around and screaming that "someone" would have been able take him out before the one and half minute response time for the police?

                  I seriously doubt that. Heck, I'll go further and say that if the room were full of people with guns that probably some would have simply fired in panic and more might be dead or wounded.

                  Now I am NOT saying President Obama should take away guns and I don't believe he plans to try. That's a 2nd Amendment right.

                  • 17 votes
                  #3.6 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

                  Not exactly d*mned if he does, d*mned if he doesn't....it needs to be private.

                  • 7 votes
                  #3.7 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:06 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarjimsepaRestored

                  The pettiness of the Right knows no boundaries. Despicable.

                  Here we are, in the middle of a tragedy, with a President going to show his support for the survivors and families, and he's criticized. Disgusting.

                  • 36 votes
                  #3.8 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

                  I'm sure the visits will be private, but the media follows him regardless, He is the President and this is a heavy media covered tragedy. The Media will absolutely report on his visit and you all will say, it was a photo op. But really, The only one's making this out to be political is the right who sees everything this president does as evil.

                  • 30 votes
                  #3.9 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:12 PM EDT

                  DisgustedConservative - comment #3 - I think you meant to say "Note to self - 'Don't pass up any opportunity to bash the President - even if it makes me appear to be a total imbecile'.".

                  Yeah, that works a lot better.

                  • 37 votes
                  #3.10 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:23 PM EDT

                  Mr. Obama met privately with the families and victims of the Fort Hood killing of 13 people and then spoke publicly to the nation. There is a precedent he set that is appropriate to follow.

                  • 34 votes
                  #3.11 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:23 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarRocket DogExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Disgusted....Note to self: " I am truly an opportunitistic, insensitive jerk...among other things."

                  What??...no comment from you that our President dared to mention the word 'prayer'....

                  Isn't it ironic...I'll be the one 'deleted' while your lousy comment will hold.

                  • 20 votes
                  #3.12 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:26 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarnenameldoRestored

                  As his administration has said in the past . . . never let a good crisis go to waste. It will end up being part of his political campaign, one way or the other. He doesn't have a sensitive bone in his body.

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.13 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

                  Phil-K

                  The Brady Center rates EVERYONE an "F" if they don't say "We need more gun control".

                  • 6 votes
                  #3.14 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                  So sad that the right has no compassion at this time of fear and sadness. Obama is our President and he should be in Aurora tomorrow. Perhaps you should consider the fact that he has no other motive than to express his sadness and offer his support. Maybe you're just pissed that Romney didn't think of it first.

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.15 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

                  The mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emmanuel said "never let a good crisis go to waste". Obama didn't say it. But of course you will attribute any and all to him. Just like you want him to apologize to Romney for things said by his supporters. Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn't.

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.16 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                  kimH - "Maybe you're just pissed that Romney didn't think of it first."

                  Romney is running for the office and is not afforded the title, therefore, has no place or standing at such an event. THAT would be a photo op...and I believe, being so utterly out of touch with middle class America, he is arrogant enough to attempt it.

                  • 6 votes
                  #3.17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

                  B.L....I like my odds on having a gun than not, and if you hadn't heard, he reloaded his AR and it took about 30 seconds (sounds like it jammed), enough time for a head-shot

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

                  philk,

                  remember the nuclear arms race with the russians? that's done.

                  now we've got one going with firearms here on the good ole usa.

                    #3.19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                    COH be damned, I'm gonna' say it - It's a damn shame YOU weren't in the theater.

                    way2go!, don't ever deathwish another Viner. You're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                    Disgusted....Note to self: " I am truly an opportunitistic, insensitive jerk...among other things."

                    PJ-547553, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                    Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.20 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    I am glad to see him going, sadly the wingnuts will condemn him for it.

                    • 51 votes
                    #4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:39 PM EDT

                    Pigotry.....maybe Mitt can do a fly over like GWB !

                    • 9 votes
                    #4.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

                    Mitt and Ann Romney are self serving self appointed royalty...why would they get mixed up in a simple community that has lost to this horrible degree? Remember, Ann Romney said, "WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU PEOPLE" any more info on their tazes...the snobbery is so obvious its disgusting. The 2 of them just look good, show off their wealth, do their thing with their rich and super wealthy theiving comrades. Ever think he's going to Europe to visit his money in Switzerland? Maybe his dollars now have the right to vote in absentee? Sounds like something the GOP would do.

                    How any reasonable, intelligent person could even entertain the thought of electing a president who flip flops, doesn't have a thing in common with the American public, flaunts their wealth and refuses to disclose their taxes strikes me as the studest thing I have ever heard...follow the news and hear Romney renege on everything he has ever said politically in his entuire career as a politican.

                    The presidency is just another rich man's sport Romney wants at like he wants a dancing horse, another multi million dollar house, another extravagant upgrade in his life style. This many has no heart or soul for the American people and what we deal with...he's a spoiled, nasty, empty, talking head who doesn't have a clue and doesn't want one...he just wants to be president like a 4 year old wants another match box car!

                    WILLARD, I hope Obama beats your pants off in the election soyou and your pompous wife can spend more time with your money and do not land up as a pox on the American people.

                    • 14 votes
                    #4.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                    I second all that you say Ametrina. You are 100% correct!

                    • 10 votes
                    #4.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:56 AM EDT
                    Comment author avatarJP-345944Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Ametrina - People like you demonstrate the total lack of intelligence in this country that is driving it to ruin. Romney is a living example of the American success story while Obama is a living example that people of ANY color can aspire to the highest office in the land. YOU, are a living example of air-head, radical opiners that have nothing better to do with your life than disparage people, or politicians with a different point of view. What the friggin hell to YOU know about Romney other than the crap that has been spoon-fed down your gullible throat by people that are even MORE dipsticks than you. Give me a break, grow up, and get a life. As far as as the POTUS going to Aurora, previous bloggers are right - we in Colorado do NOT need another entourage of 200+ decending on our city for a photo op, speeches, or subtle hints that if you "vote for me I'll fix the world" during this time of mourning - a simple call to each would have sufficed. If this had happened in California, a non-battle ground purple state, the phone call is all anyone would have gotten from a POTUS that has had more photo-ops, rose garden PR events, and TV talk-show time than any President in history. HIs visit is TOTALLY political, and anyone that thinks otherwise has been in a state of suspended animation for the last 3+ years.

                    • 7 votes
                    #4.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

                    Steven ~ and they would condemn him if he didn't.

                    • 9 votes
                    #4.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
                    Comment author avatarBlue-eyed LadyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Ametrina - the "royalty" you speak of, is indeed moochelle and our so called potus. moochelle spends so much of the taxpayers money on assistants and world class vacations it makes me sick. And she thinks she's 'entitled'. At least when they do this photo-op they will be staying in the states. The green monster of class and money envy rises again with you liberals. At least Mr. Romney's money is his own and hard earned.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

                    What is the difference in Bush coming to NY during 9/11 and the president going to Colorado. I Believe the families will welcome him and appreciate the fact that they are Americans and he is showing his support. Some people hate the president so much that they have the nerve to try and speak for other people. Sure reporters will be there to cover his visit. WHerever the president goes, the media will be there also and they are the ones who will make it seem like a political move. So complain to the media. You guys are so in favor of the first amendment so stop complaining. I think it is a great move on the president because if he didn't go, then there are folks who will call him indifferent and not concerned. It is a president's job to personally go where there has been a tragedy or disaster. Every president has done this. Just because you are a Mitt fan, doesn't mean everyone feels the same. These people need to know that their president feels their pain.

                    • 9 votes
                    #4.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

                    If you don't see any difference Between Colorado and 911 , then I won't even bother trying to tell you.

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                    Blue-eyed Lady, you sound more green-eyed than anything, espousing past the point of vapidness. Use facts instead of inuendos and fallacies to make a point, people in general will then be able to converse and argue points with you in a reasonable way without shaking their heads in a sad and 'move along, nothing to see here' way.

                    JP-345944, you wrote 'Romney is a living example of the American success story.' Care to explain how someone of privilege who has risked nothing his whole life is considered an 'American success story?' Tell me, what is the best thing about Romney's campaign to be President you can say, that is the truth?

                    • 10 votes
                    #4.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                    When in the world did bo ever do something from his heart? This is a prime example of how he and his boys do things...uh, Sharpton, Jackson, etc., off the backs of others..Maybe he can come in and organize the community.

                    This is another opportunity for another photo op.. He loves the sound of his own voice and can never get enough of it. If the man had any class, he would leave Colorado to morn their own. The Country needs to give them time and their space. He already spoke on National Television yesterday...oops, not enough.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                    @ Amatrina you say Mitt does a flip flop OK I can agree in fact at some time everyone does, but I don't understand why when Obama has a rotary cam in him causing him to do a continuous flip flop, you Liberals choose to ignore it. Obama has not stopped tumbling since his inauguration. that man is worse than a Elmo doll on EverReady's.

                    If I had Mitts money I would manufacture a bunch of Obama dolls that do continuous somersaults.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                    blue eye lady(?)

                    Your eyes maybe blue but your "heart" is Black. Wow are you from the south??

                    The teas are out in force....go back to church. (but after church get back to yer evil) WOW

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                    Obama shows to be everything Mitt the Clown is not, A "LEADER"

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                    Cantbelieve....the difference between Bush going to 911 and Obama going to Colorado isObama had nothing to do with the killing in Colorado. Bush and Condi Rice ignored the warning of 911 and people were killed because of it.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                    Like Obama and the FBI ignoring all of the warnings about the Muslim, that killed 13 at Ft Hood?

                      #4.15 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:05 AM EDT

                      YOU, are a living example of air-head, radical opiners that have nothing better to do with your life than disparage people

                      JP-345944, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                      Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.16 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:02 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      Comment author avatarMTNBUNRestored

                      He was just in Colorado for the wildfires, now for the shootings. Another photo op? Send the VP instead.

                      • 16 votes
                      Reply#5 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

                      Yeah, and if he hadn't gone, you'd be complaining about that!

                      • 43 votes
                      #5.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:46 PM EDT

                      MTNBUN....how very small of you.

                      • 19 votes
                      #5.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:02 PM EDT
                      Comment author avatarBarbara Adams JacksonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      MTNBUN - You do realize President Obama's visit to the part-time firefighters in Colorado who didn't have

                      health insurance are now covered - just like the crazies you sent to Congress

                      We had a FEMA friend in Virginia - same situation not full time but called up in emergencies - had his appendix removed - cost $5,000 - took him 3 years to pay it off

                      All of these people should be covered

                      And our President - yes yours and mine - with a stroke of a pen now covers all of these valiant people

                      Where were the Republicans in this matter?

                      So my suggestion to you is shut up until you know the facts - PS you won't get it on Faux News

                      • 22 votes
                      #5.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:32 PM EDT

                      No Adams, not with a stroke of the pen, he did it with our tax money, just like the dems always do, when they do anyhting, use some ones else's money

                      • 3 votes
                      #5.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

                      Its not like they were not already covered by state industerial, and they are only allowed to work on the fire for 14 days at a time and then take 14 days off, that was just another attempt to buy votes for him using my money. when you earn $4-500.00 a day you can buy your own insurance just like the rest of us.

                      • 1 vote
                      #5.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:25 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      I agree, Steven.

                      • 19 votes
                      #6 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:45 PM EDT

                      I think the President has no motives other than to show compassion as a caring person. This is about loss of life and starting a healing process.

                      • 32 votes
                      #6.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                      I agree for heavens sake he is a very caring Man, Father, Husband and Leader. It is so sad that some making comments cannot see this .Making such rediculous remarks at a time we should all be coming together. Really too bad and I hate it.
                      I feel so sorry for these people who lost loved ones for absolutely no reason. This is not the time or place to make this
                      about politics so if you don't have something positive and sympathtic to say please refrain from the horrific attacks at this time.

                        #6.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:14 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarskor154Restored

                        He's as conscious as fleabane, about as aware as dubya; I'm voting Green Party in November. Obama is as conscious as Bush; therefore, I'm goin vote Green Party. After all, an idiot is still as stupid as it gets!

                        • 4 votes
                        #6.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:37 AM EDT

                        Obama is as conscious as Bush; therefore, I'm goin vote Green Party.

                        You mean you are going to vote for Mr Romney; because that's what a vote for the Green Party is. Or do you expect us to forget that it was your Green Party that gifted us with 8 years of President Bush? If it wasn't for Mr Nader taking away votes from Al Gore, Al Gore would have won handily.

                        • 8 votes
                        #6.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                        The president is a very compasionate man who truly cares about people and all the people in this country no matter their race or color. He has shown that many times. President Obama is a family man who loves his family and all of us no matter who we are who have children and loved ones can feel the pain of these Americans. These people are Americans and this is their president and they should feel honored to have a president who comes to support them in their hour of need. Every president has gone to the areas of tragedy and disasters. Just as Bush did after 9/11 and though he was late, to Katrina. Those who criticize the president for going to Aurora and saying this is a political move is a lie! And one other thing, speaking as a Black, not trying to make this a race issue, But we Blacks are very religious and spiritual people. We are greatly affected by these types of tragedies because we usually see them more often. Blacks are sincere people and we are not disassociated from the pains of others as some people. I heard Mitt's words but they were not with the feeling as the president who spoke from his heart.

                        • 7 votes
                        #6.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                        If hes so compassionate then explain the ndaa bill, are you completely mad? this guys a socialist who has done nothing in over 3 years, anything hes done has failed, yes failed, but you go on loving this pretender, yeah hes not even american it was proven in court, google new jersey vs obama birth certificate, his own lawyer says hes a fraud, so go poo poo this inept corrupt bumbling idiot elsewhere. The only thing gonna come out of this ol obammy is going to sign the u.n small arms treaty, and good bye 2nd amendment the blue hats are already here to confinscate our weapons, all you have to do is look at nazi germany, russia, or any other country they disarmed, tyrants rule and does genocide ring a bell?

                        • 3 votes
                        #6.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

                        AmericanVeteran1, ANYTHING President Obama has done has failed? Can you be any more vacuous with that nugacious rant? Put down that slurpee and back away slowly, your 8 year Bush brain freeze isn't coming back any time soon.

                        • 9 votes
                        #6.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

                        American ignorant, you are an idiot, the 2nd amendment didn't for sure cover assault rifles nor glocks. There is no way the framers could have imagined the carnage cost of the NRA.

                        • 5 votes
                        #6.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                        Syria is a good example of what can happen to a disarmed civilian population. I fear that when the Blue hats start crawling out of the woodwork to take our guns away there will most likely be trouble. and that's why there are so many of them here, personally I would like to see these foreign troops out of our country and take the UN with them.

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

                        Come here to Detroit.....there are a lot of Democratic voters with guns. Most of them not legal and being carried one the street. You wont be able to take their guns away....because you dont know they have them. Will they shoot you...hell yea they do and will every day. But they vote democratic because they give them support. There are plenty of good people in Detroit.....but they are cancelled out by the people with no conscience or morality! Check out the couple they found in the Detroit river this last week.....no heads no hands no feet! Some guy wanted to live in their home, so he killed them!

                        • 3 votes
                        #6.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                        dubuck you need to get a Bigger ti foil hat, maybe add a Wallmart suit to it.

                        • 2 votes
                        #6.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                        American vet...you explain why Romney supported the republicans blocking the bill 7-19-12 to remove tax breaks for companies that take AMERICAN VET JOBS overseas. You explain why Romney supported the republicans blocking the bill to give 20% tax breaks to comoines when they bring the jobs back to AMERICAN VETS! They have done this numerous times. WHY??????? Because repubs are bought and paid for by Romney and the Bain companies and the rich 1% greedy people.

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                        Jolly .........and just what have you done to stop the violence and while you are at it, prove your source for statement of they are democtrats killing and voting. Otherwise just tell everyone you just lied!

                          #6.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                          For years republicans were on tv every day wrapping themselves up in 911 flags and video of hugging first responders. At the samer time republicans were blocking health care for the same people year after year until John Stewart called them out on it on National TV. Repubs calling them heroes one day during photo ops, and the next day telling them to die! The very next day after John Stewart told them no more 911 flag and hero hugging and wrapping, repubs supported the bill and passed it. Some repubs STILL voted against it.!

                            #6.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                            Star.....Its Detroit! Who the hell do you think has been running Detroit for 40 years? Look Up Kwame Kilpatrick....No wait let me do it for you! Almost ALL of his administration is in prison or on their way!

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick

                            • 2 votes
                            #6.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                            Jolly....repeat! and just what have you done to stop the violence and while you are at it, prove your source for statement of they are democtrats killing and voting. Otherwise just tell everyone you just lied!

                              #6.16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                              lmao.....are you really that stupid. Look up everything you can about Detroit and the politics. 97% of Detroit is democratic. UAW SEIU! Do you think they are busing in Republicans to kill people. Wanted one evil Independent to murder 5 innocent people this week! I live here, Im not lying!

                              • 2 votes
                              #6.17 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                              Detroit is hell city no doubt. You did not prove ANY killers voted at any time. repub or Dem.

                                #6.18 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

                                jolly I want to know where you got the info that the two people that they found in the Detroit river were killed for their home? I have been following that story and I have not heard one peep about that being a motive. So it is either on the back pages or you are lying. Which is it?

                                As for all of the nut jobs out with the stupid comments. The President is not doing anything that any other President hasn't done in times of great tragedy. George the the first during hurricane Andrew, Clinton during Waco and Oklahoma City, Bush the second during 911 and hurricane Katrina. So what in the name of the ever loving Lord is the difference here? Really people, stop for a minute and think, how much of this kind of madness was the cause of this cunning and sly murderer. How much of his thinking was driven by wanting and trying to be right to the detriment of the public at large.

                                  #6.19 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

                                  9 deleted, B.L. Frazer (NYC) flaming 'You right winged bozos'. No way to start a thread.

                                  You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                                  Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

                                  ...

                                  lmao.....are you really that stupid.

                                  jollyoldsoul1, second suspension in a week means you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #6.20 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

                                  jollyoldsoul1 banned for registering another account on suspension.

                                  MrsJollyOldsoul banned.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #6.21 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                                  Tyler and Sally, is referring to them as "dumbass righties" acceptable?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #6.22 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:41 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Can't we have just one day of not bashing anyone and stand together for those who have lost loved ones and those that had to experience that terror? Of course the President should go just like past presidents have done when there is a crisis.

                                  • 37 votes
                                  Reply#8 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

                                  Well, Pamela, sadly it appears that we can't.

                                  • 23 votes
                                  #8.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:12 PM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarB.L. Frazer (NYC)Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  We try Pamela and Spankee, but the righties want to use this tragedy as a way to attack the President. I just can't read their rhetoric and not reply to their disgusting comments. I know this is really about the victims and their families mourning. I wish others would be more respectful and not make this political.

                                  • 16 votes
                                  #8.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

                                  Actually, I have no problem with obama talking to them privately and kudos to obama if he refuses to make any type of public media comment. However if obama makes it a public affair in colorado, then it becomes just another political motivated event.

                                  Obamas best course would be the private visits and just tell the media "no comment" on anything.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #8.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

                                  That is the point American, He is not attending the public ceremony. He is just meeting with the victim's families. But this is a heavily covered tragedy by the media and He is the President of the U.S. which in itself garners media attention like nothing else. People will automatically make this out to be a photo op when it is just the President trying to show support during a horrible situation.

                                  • 13 votes
                                  #8.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

                                  I would have zero interest in the president or any other politician meeting with me, had I just lost a friend or relative.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #8.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                                  That's your opinion. Let's leave it to the people in Aurora to either show up or not show up. I believe more will show up and truly appreciate the president's concern and know it for the sincere concern that it really is. In no way do I believe this president is making this a political move. The media will. President Obama is a very honest sincere man with a warm heart who does the best he can and has done the best he could up against the hate in congress and this country for a Black intelligent president.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #8.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                                  American, you don't think the rest of America don't need some condolence from the president in this horrible episode that effects every American? You are just another republican hater trying to mask your sheet.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #8.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                                  and just to add a side note: it would be very inappropriate for romney to show up and he knows it. this is NOT a political venue and he is NOT yet been officially designated as the candidate. it would be in very bad taste for him to go there right now. so, although i don't intend on voting for him, i think we should stop bashing both men. they are both doing what is right and for the best of everyone.

                                  and for those of you who say this can't be compared to 9/11, well the scale may be smaller, but to the loved on mourning this tragedy this is no less horrific to them and they are as deserving as anyone to gain some compassion from the president. he is the leader of our country whether you like him or not and it is his duty to be come when these things happen. too bad....so sad. i just can't understand what makes people do these things. it just doesn't make sense. we need to stop all this hate mongering. just look at what is going on right here on this website! so much hate...can't you put your fists down for even one moment? is it that important to you to spew your hatred that you can't let it rest for even a day? an hour? one minute? what is wrong with you? really. what is wrong with you? you should all be ashamed.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #8.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:32 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  This is a horrific attack. It is so unfortunate that a person can feel there is no other solution than this.

                                  As for the president, character is how one behaves at all times not at opportune times.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:54 PM EDT

                                  Yes, franz, and aren't we fortunate to have a President who behaves well at all times? It's a refreshing change after the previous 8 years, isn't it? I'm glad he has your support.

                                  • 36 votes
                                  #9.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

                                  Why would anyone consider this horrible event an opportune time? You really need to re-evaluate why you hate so much.

                                  • 25 votes
                                  #9.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:02 PM EDT

                                  The stupidity of the comments from the Left and their hate is as stupid as the loss of life in Colorado. I do not think the President flying to Colorado to see the families is wrong. It may help a little with the healing. I know if G.W. was to visit when he was president you idiots would say he was a opportunist.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #9.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                                  AWWW, let's just let the assault weapons ban expire. Oh, someone did!

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #9.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:43 PM EDT

                                  Bradley - As I recall Bush did fly overs on Katrina on his way to McCain's Birthday Party

                                  • 16 votes
                                  #9.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:30 AM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarB.L. Frazer (NYC)Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Bradley Perkins, You idiots still believe in George Bush's Mission Accomplished and WMD's

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #9.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:20 AM EDT

                                  I know if G.W. was to visit when he was president you idiots would say he was a opportunist.

                                  Uh huh. How many liberals said that G.W. was posturing or criticized him for visiting the 9/11 site?

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #9.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                                  The ONLY hate I have seen in this country has come from the right. I have never seen any democrat in public making the types of hateful comments toward our elected officials and this president as I have from the right wing. Starting with the sarah palin of rednecks onto Mitch McConnel and all the other republicans who were so hurt that they did not win again. The remarks from all of them including Mitt has been the most hateful remarks toward any president in this country. As for President Obama, I have not heard ONE hateful remark from him toward anyone! Nor does he allow his administration to come out with extreme hate remarks toward Mitt other than what is true.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #9.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

                                  Raum, very few, after 9/11 Bushwacker enjoyed a 90% approval rating, it was his later move to Iraq and his lies to get our country involved with his quest for the price of oil that he became the lowest rated president ever. This includes some horrific republican president like Hoover and Reagan.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #9.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                                  lmao.....horrific like Reagan! very funny! You have good material, but keep your day job! IT must kill you to watch a real State Government run a state the way it should be. I watched Jenny "from the block" Granholm's Cable show ......she is still god awful!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #9.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                  franz you are so right...Bush did Not go to see Katrina, didn't even send supplies. But he Did use 911 as his Vote for me mantra. (after all It Did Happen on His Watch) Only way that numb nut could get re-elected...FEAR.

                                  Have you ever watch a rat when it is cornered with no way out.....the Repbs/Teas are in that strike mode..they know they are toast. LOL

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #9.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:14 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  WHERE is the main story in the aftermath? Has anyone else been deeply disturbed by the sheer number of "parents" who brought their young children ( 3-month, 6-month, 6 years, 7years...etc ) to this VIOLENT midnight ADULT movie?

                                  1) Why did these movie theaters allow CHILDREN under the age of 18-year-olds in at midnight?

                                  Something is DEFINITEY WRONG here that we have laws that permit these nitwit "parents" to bring babies to adult movies in the middle of the night.

                                  Seriously, what is WRONG with these so-called "parents" that bringing these babies to adult violent, loud, movies when these babies should be home sleeping in their own beds?

                                  Really – be free. Do, say , view whatever you choose. But, when you subject children to this, I have to strenuously object. AS WE ALL SHOULD.

                                  WHY hasn't ANY media AT ALL picked up and ran with this???

                                  Perhaps the "media" are all 20 year old nitwits who think that it might be just fine for babies, toddlers, and elementary kids to view violent movies at mid til 2 am.

                                  REALLY - am I alone in DEMANDING some type of accounting here?

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #10 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                  This was a major EVENT of the summer. Thus, as a special treat, some parents chose to bring children. Very likely, most had nice long naps before they got there & would have been back in bed within a couple hours. (No, it shouldn't be routine.) And babies can sleep as well in a theater as at home.

                                  The movie would have been just as violent for them at a 2 p.m. matinee. Thus, the issue is not the time but whether the movie itself is appropriate.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #10.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:04 PM EDT

                                  Yeah, I'm still questioning that parenting option myself. Baring what happened with the pyscho, who needs to see Batman that badly as to bring infants and toddlers to the theater? A 6 year old was among the victims. I pray for them all.

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #10.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

                                  I asked the same question as soon as I saw the story yesterday morning. WHY was any child under the age of 16 in a theater at midnight, for ANY movie? I don't care if they had a "nap" before hand. There is NO excuse for ANY parent taking a child to a movie at that time of the night, and that goes for the 19 y/o who was there with his younger sibling. Where were the parents? Why wasn't the younger sibling at home? The parents of the 6 y/o will have to live with that mistake for the rest of their lives emotionally, but maybe they should also be charged with child neglect?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #10.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

                                  The movie is rated pg-13...
                                  That means Parents can choose to go if with kids, and that is the kind of movie that can appeal to a kid with parents there.... over 13 can go alone... It's not a rated R. So technically it's considered a minor age movie going for a teen demographic. If a partent with a child goes it's usually sitters are costly and kids that small tend to sleep through movies.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #10.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                                  Anti:

                                  The mother of that 6 yr old is fighting for her life; shot in the throat and somewhere else and she is paralyzed at this moment.

                                  I can only assume that for whatever reason, Mom felt safe and comfortable taking her daughter to the movie at that time. If she works swing-shift or graveyard; her daughter is going to be on that schedule, regardless.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #10.5 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

                                  Now i though this was a free country and you could still take your kids to see a pg13 movie.

                                  Don't bring in parenting skills of other people into this tragedy. And don't make a dumb comment especially if you are not a parent.

                                  Im still going to take my six year old to see this movie, because im not going to let some i@#ot with a gun take my right to choose.

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #10.6 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                                  B.L. frazer...

                                  I never have understood the fascination of many to have to be the first to participate in an event, especially one only oriented for entertainment. Are bragging rights really that important?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #10.7 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                                  All of you questioning bringing children - we no longer live in communities with extended families - haven't for a long time

                                  Most of my grandchildren and children live a thousand miles away - plus baby sitters are not cheap

                                  Wish we had Grandma or Pop living next door like they do in Italy, Germany or France - but we don't

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #10.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:36 AM EDT

                                  I guess your point would be valid if the President were attending the vigil and taking pictures with a big smile and his thumbs up. Come to think of it, that seems more like his competitor, but I digress. Anyway, the President is not attending the vigil and will see the Family of the victims privately. So much for entertainment and bragging rights. But facts don't matter to you and the republican party as evidenced over the past 11 years.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #10.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:45 AM EDT

                                  I can see it now, head bowed, showing some sort of fake compassion as he hops on a plane to S.F to further push his anti=American campaign

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #10.10 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

                                  i agree but with a little more compassion. i don't agree with bringing little children out in the middle of the night especially to see a movie that is ultra violent. but, i'll bet most of them did it because they couldn't find a babysitter. i have to admit i did it a few times myself when my oldest son was a baby, but! it was never at midnight and he always slept through the movies. if i knew then what i know now, i would never have done it. we may not agree with these parents but, we can't hold them responsible for the actions of this murderer. they have not deserved the tragedy of losing their child because of this, BECAUSE, you should be able to take your children anywhere, anytime without having to worry about them getting murdered. and they have paid the ultimate price. condemning them would not help.

                                    #10.11 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

                                    no we do Not have laws saying The state knows better than the parents. It Called MYOB. It Was THE GUNS not the parents.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #10.12 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                                    Hollywood and media have been glorifying villains in movies as heroes. The more crazy they are the more they put them on pedistals. Video games came out with non stop rape/killing of women, hookers, every kind of person and idiot parents bought these types of games for them. Yeah parents are idiots for bringing kids to these types of movies. parents are idiots for buying non stop killing video games. Shut off the crap and let you kid go outside and learn how to ride a bike or play with a stick.........get off my lawn while you're at it!(Sarcasm on last line as I am sure some of you won't get it)

                                      #10.13 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                      Starsailing, sending kids out to play USED to be a good thing to do. I grew up in an era of being out long after the street lights came on and my friends parents sitting out on the porch to make sure we stayed out of trouble. But we can't do that anymore, children go missing or are abused and killed by the guy that lives down the street that no one knew had been released from jail for pedophilia. The world has never really been a "safe" place for kids, but in the last 30 yrs or so it has gotten so scary. So parents would rather their children stayed inside and played those games because then they know where they are. And that to me is a DAMN SHAME!! Because they just need to be kids, play in the sprinkler, jump rope, play tag all of the things that kids should be doing.

                                        #10.14 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

                                        I said this on an opinion piece earlier ... but kids ARE NOT COOKIES. They are not all the same. Some 6 year olds can handle the violence better than some 15 year olds. Some people (babies and kids included) are "Owls" and up late by their biology/nature. I personally was an owl from BIRTH and was up all night and slept during the day. As soon as Summer vacation started and I no longer had to get up for school, I went back to being up late. Since they weren't YOUR kids - MYOB. I'm sure that everybody has a particular child-raising habit or has made a child-raising decision that others would be horrified at. For me - I can't understand forcing a child into a religion before they're a teenager and can make their own decisions about what they believe. But parents who make that choice are just as free to make it as I am to raise mine with exposure to more than one religion.

                                          #10.15 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                                          Tired...oh yeah...I was the dad that took all the neighbor kids with my kids on hikes, swimming, fishing, coached them in sports, picnics, vacations, races etc. It takes a lot of work...but parents just have to be more active with their kids.

                                          When my mom was on her death bed my brothers and me finally could tell mom all the places we went to on river bottoms etc, when we said we were up to park. Mom could not get up to chase us down......

                                          I created a small national park the last 26 years and currently working on making it people friendly and safe. Hopefully school kids will be bussed in to learn the history as I have helped to make programs like that for other Interp centers I got built. Everyone just has to do as much as they can to make life safe for all. It starts with one person.

                                            #10.16 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:27 PM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            The story says that he is meeting with the victims (which would be private) but not going to the vigil (which would be public). Thus, he is skipping the part that would be the photo op.

                                            Seems like a good way to offer support without making it political.

                                            • 30 votes
                                            Reply#11 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                            It depends if he actually follows through with that .

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #11.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                                            Tammy....you have him mixed up with Mittins..you know the one who can not tell the truth ...

                                              #11.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:24 PM EDT
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                                              Comment author avatarkkwilsonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              Has anyone noticed that our commander in chief is careful to make sure he's doing all the right things lately in hopes that he can be reelected. It's shameful and sad that he waits until the election to do the things he should have been doing all along. His efforts will be fruitless.

                                              • 10 votes
                                              Reply#12 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:02 PM EDT
                                              Comment author avataropen my eyesExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                              What's even sadder is your pathetic comment. Get help.

                                              • 25 votes
                                              #12.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:05 PM EDT

                                              What? You think he scheduled the shooting & the fires & whatever so that he could "do all the right things" and make appearances?

                                              He often does the right thing. Pay attention.

                                              • 20 votes
                                              #12.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

                                              His effort is about showing support to the families of the victims. You condemnation of his visit will be fruitless along with your shame.

                                              • 17 votes
                                              #12.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

                                              The last thing I would want would be any politician hanging around, had I just lost a friend or relative.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #12.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:13 AM EDT
                                              Reply

                                              As for the president, character is how one behaves at all times not at opportune times.

                                              Question for the libs, Show me the article where Obama visited the injured and the families of the dead Chicago kids who continually gun each other down and in bigger numbers. You can't because he doesn't and you think that he isn't politicizing this event. Moxie and open your eyes, explain?

                                              • 6 votes
                                              Reply#13 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

                                              That is an ongoing situation that the Chicago Police and elected Officials must solve. He would be going to Chicago every week, with the uptick in violence in the Chicago area, wouldn't he?

                                              • 18 votes
                                              #13.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                                              B.L. Frazer (NYC)

                                              That is an ongoing situation that the Chicago Police and elected Officials must solve. He would be going to Chicago every week, with the uptick in violence in the Chicago area, wouldn't he?

                                              Yep. You're doing a heckuva job Rahm!

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #13.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                                              So now you want to blame Obama, because of Rahm's mayoral capabilities? You're doing a heckuva job TonyinWyo!

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #13.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:52 PM EDT

                                              So Jan - Your saying the President of the United States should visit LA - New Orleans - Chicago - and every other urban center when two or three people are shot or wounded?

                                              Does your statement make sense to you? Because it sure as heck doesn't make sense to me

                                              Maybe he should give up his meetings on the world's problems

                                              Put on his fire fighter hat - put on his police uniform - (OH wait Romney already played a police trooper)

                                              then in his spare time become a neuro surgeon

                                              Am I reading you right? I hope not

                                              He is one man - not Superman to cure all ills

                                              • 8 votes
                                              #13.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:44 AM EDT

                                              With the liberal government here in Detroit the view from 8 mile is very entertaining. The city is cutting all employees in an effort to get the public union costs under control. The Unions are uhappy and threatening demonstrations. Mr Shabaz (NBP) says they will burn the city to the ground before they will let "whitey" take over the city. All the while people with sense in Lansing are trying to save Detroit.! Oh yea all this and 6 to 8 people murdered every week in horrific ways....no heads no feet no hands!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #13.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                              Jolly.....repubs just blocked bill to cut tax breaks for companies that took job overseas. Repubs just blocked bill to give 20% tax break to bring jobs back to America.......Don't blame Democrats or Unions. Blame Romney Bain and repubs and the Citizens United repub plan. Romney wanted to let auto related jobs and G. M. go dead. Geez I wonder why people are so pissed about not having jobs in Detroit. Repubs are trying to make a profit off the middle class and poor at every turn. President Obama made G.M. reorganize and they turned it around. Repubs plan every day to take the economy down and Detroit suffers for it.

                                                #13.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                                                lmao....you are delusional! Mr. Romney wanted they to go through normal Bankruptcy procedure. They would be in the same position they are now... Psssst I work for one of them! The only thing Mr. Obama did was give the Unions enough of the company to save their pensions. The retirees and investors got screwed being stuck with the worthless old Stock. And really are the republicans driving into Detroit and killing people. Here is just a small part of what you dont get...from a source you may accept.

                                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/2-bodies-found-detroit-river-torsos-dismembered_n_1680455.html

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #13.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:47 PM EDT
                                                Reply

                                                More reason, for gun restriction laws. I know Obama isn't after the 2nd amendment, but I sure wish he or someone in power was. The NRA has everyone over a barrel (pardon the pun)

                                                • 13 votes
                                                Reply#14 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                                                And while you're at it... let's get some restrictions on speech. News services should be required to post sources & offer alternate opinions, as well as, delay any new stories for 48 hours to verify the facts. And what about religion? Let's get that straightened out too. Let's regulate how many churches per square mile, number of hours they can be open & maximum number of members in any single church.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #14.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

                                                Can we start the speech restrictions with you? I'm sure it would go along way to alter the noise pollution problem from the right.

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #14.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

                                                And while you're at it... let's get some restrictions on speech.

                                                Sure, as soon as someone learns how to walk into a crowded theater and talks everyone to death.

                                                Seriously, what an idiotic comparison.

                                                We have a gun problem in the U.S. A gun problem - not an enforcement problem because things like this happen on a regular basis where no laws were broken, right up to the moment when someone pulled the trigger. It's a gun problem. It's time we dealt with it.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #14.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:03 AM EDT

                                                B.L you do know the shooter had a clean record right?He would have been able to obtain a gun just about anywhere.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #14.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:35 AM EDT

                                                I cannot argue against that statement Angrywhitemale. (what a name)

                                                You are right. THe shooter would have qualified anywhere with a clean record, to obtain a weapon. My opinion is not to ban guns, I own one myself. But I own a handgun, not an automatic assault rifle. My soldier days are behind me. My opinion is there needs to be more restriction put in place on those types of weapons. This was a tragedy and the NRA will not allow any tragedy to infringe on them or the 2nd amendment. I personally don't give a damn about the 2nd amendment. I don't see anyone trying to take my gun from me and so I don't worry about it like the right seems to. Life is precious man. I'm sure the victim's families feel the same tonight. GOD BLESS THEM and you!

                                                • 7 votes
                                                #14.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:04 AM EDT

                                                We don't have a gun problem. We have an idiot problem. Ban all the guns you want. It just takes them away from the law abiding citizens. These guns are already on the streets. Do you really think Joe the crack dealer gives a sh*t if his gun has been banned?

                                                  #14.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

                                                  You cant ban one type of gun over another, its just like saying you can eat broccoli but not carrots. like saying that gun pulled its own trigger, its some of the idiots that own them is where the problem lies

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #14.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                                                  18 deleted, gcooper8 requesting 'a World of Warcraft spell that will send the Conservative trolls on this vine back under their bridges'. Off-topic, and grenade-trolling.

                                                  You're suspended for a day for violating #1 and #4 of the Code of Honor.

                                                  Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

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                                                  #14.8 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:04 AM EDT
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                                                  gcooper8Deleted

                                                  I think Obama and Romney both gave fine addresses and did the honorable thing by calling off their ads in CO.

                                                  I do pray for the wounded and for the families of the dead.

                                                  • 16 votes
                                                  Reply#16 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:24 PM EDT

                                                  I wonder if Obama would bother visiting the victims if it weren't an election year. Just gotta keep you name and face out there....

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  Reply#17 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

                                                  I imagine you wonder a lot of things. Like "Gee, I wonder where I should put the stamp on this envelope? Oh, wow, look - here's a little box that says 'Place Stamp Here'! I'm sure glad that's on there."

                                                  • 15 votes
                                                  #17.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                                                  I believe he would. Same as he visited the Ft Hood victims. And that was NOT an election year.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  #17.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:57 PM EDT
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                                                  What a great photo op.

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                                                  Reply#18 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                                                  And, exactly what would you be saying if he chose not to go? Hmmm? You must be squealing, like a pig in mud, with your win/win situation you have on your hands because, no matter what he does, you can criticize him for it. Since this appears to be your lucky day, you might want to buy some lottery tickets while you're on a roll!

                                                  • 19 votes
                                                  #18.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

                                                  The biggest photo op in the history of this modern country belongs to a republican BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                  Going to a military ship and declaring mission accomplished 2 years into the war that after 11 years its still being fought.

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                                                  #18.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:21 PM EDT
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                                                  Comment author avatardrs-676864Restored

                                                  This idiot in Chief should just leave the families alone and quit trying to make this a media event, for his faultering campaign...what a jerk.

                                                  DS

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                                                  Reply#19 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:28 PM EDT

                                                  B.L. Frazer (NYC)

                                                  That is an ongoing situation that the Chicago Police and elected Officials must solve. He would be going to Chicago every week, with the uptick in violence in the Chicago area, wouldn't he?

                                                  Very true but he hasn't gone once, why? What's the difference between Aurora and Chicago and you still believe this is not politcally motivated?

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  Reply#20 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

                                                  No, I don't believe it is politically motivated. I believe this is a national tragedy that has shocked the Nation (again). Like the wildfires, and Katrina, and even 9-11. There are certain times when tragedy strikes and our elected leader has to show his support. If you want to make it political, I can't fight you on it. It is your opinion, but I'm sure when George Bush flew over Louisiana and went to NYC, he wasn't looking for a photo op. He was just being Presidential. Give Obama the same benefit of the doubt and the same respect.

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                                                  #20.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:40 PM EDT
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                                                  It is a good move for him an I hope he is doing it from the heart not as a photo op for election. The bad part is it will disrupt medical care through out the hospital and snarl traffic through town. If this is a for real I CARE I applaud him if its a political maneuver he is sick

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                                                  Reply#21 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:31 PM EDT
                                                  aungie2012Deleted

                                                  The reason I question President Obama's motives is that in his own home town, Chicago, there have been several "Massacres" among the Black population in 2012. Nearly 300 have been killed this year in Chicago, mostly Blacks killing Blacks. If the Romney campaign had any brains, they'd be heading straight to 79th and Racine expressing the outrage and consoling the victims on a daily basis, perhaps explaining how Mr. Romney would curtail the massacre of these innocents. BTW Chicago has some of the toughest gun control laws in this country. And it ain't working. A plague on both your houses! My sympathies go out to all victims, whether in Aurora, CO or Chicago, IL

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#23 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                                                  First, prayers and well wishes to those shot, wounded, and their families.

                                                  There are no gun shops in Chicago. The guns go into Chicago from other places. Per the ATF, the largest source state for the guns seized at crime scenes is Indiana which has weaker gun sales laws than Illinois.

                                                  Trying to say that Chicago gun laws don't work ignores that straw purchases are made elsewhere. People take advantage of weaker laws in other places. Weapons are then transported and sold to the gang bangers. Kind of makes you wonder how many more guns would be there if they had stores.

                                                  Frankly, I think the situation might be worse.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #23.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

                                                  You see this has already turned in to a gun control line... Guns do not kill the person that pullls the trigger does just like this guy he wants his name to go down in history.. And maybe the movie rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                  #23.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

                                                  All of which he could accomplish because he could obtain all of his guns, ammo, and gear LEGALLY! A true win for the 2nd Amendment. Maybe the next king of England was in that damned theater but I doubt it.

                                                    #23.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:43 PM EDT

                                                    Please have respect; it is President Obama, not Mr. Obama. This is part of his job when there is a big tragedy that has affected the nation.

                                                    God is Love!

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #23.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:59 PM EDT

                                                    Dan - This is not a gun control issue - but an assault weapon issue - which the ban expired in 2004 and was not renewed under GWB's watch

                                                    Nobody needs an assault gun - also 6,000 rounds of ammunitition, tear gas canisters or explosives

                                                    Should be made a little harder to get - with alarms going off for somebody ordering them

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #23.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:50 AM EDT

                                                    Barbara,

                                                    Of course it's a gun control issue. What do you think an 'assault weapon' is?

                                                    It's time we did something serious about gun control - just about anything would be an improvement over what little control we have now. Either that or we're going to have to get used to this kind of thing happening every few months.

                                                    Somebody explain to the families of the dead how the precious 2nd Amendment is more important than their lost loved ones. I nominate the NRA.

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #23.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:10 AM EDT

                                                    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
                                                    Thomas Jefferson

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #23.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

                                                    "an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                                                    This is so true. No explanation needed. It says it all.

                                                      #23.8 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                                                      Penny saved is a penny earned.

                                                      Beware of the dog with a crooked hind leg.

                                                      Tippicanoe and Tyler too!

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                                                      #23.9 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

                                                      As I said, little question why dem leftys are without credibility.

                                                        #23.10 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:12 AM EDT
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                                                        It drives the righties nuts that the president is an authentic human being and truly compassionate.

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                                                        Reply#24 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                                                        Leroy, there is NOTHING AUTHENTIC about this President. He is as phony as they come, make no mistake about that. I am waiting to see if he meets with the families in private or if he does try and turn it into another photo-op. And here's a bit of advice. Anyone who votes for Obama twice would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.

                                                        • 10 votes
                                                        #24.1 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

                                                        amerigal,

                                                        Go peddle your hatred elsewhere

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                                                        #24.2 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                                        Amerigirl is right on. This President is a total phony and the best con man ever. He's going to Colorado for votes only. He could care less about white folk shooting white folks....When are some of you going to wake up America. He's a phony and anything he can do to divert attention from this economy in shambles is now his game and has been for the last two years. He is making a fool out of some of you.

                                                        • 8 votes
                                                        #24.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

                                                        Nope, you're making a fool out of yourself.

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                                                        #24.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

                                                        sticks & stones

                                                        No he's not. This is Obama's SOP in his campaign strategy. He always manages to get in a photo op when its a large news story that goes nation wide no matter what the story is about.

                                                        He can't gather support on his record, because Obama's own words condemn his as irresponsible and a fail leader, so Obama has to divert attention away from them.

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #24.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                                                        I can't wait for November. the heads that are going to explode!!! It is going to be soooooooo much fun.

                                                        So how much are you folks that are ranting about the President going to do to help these people when the idiots from westboro baptist show up to protest at the youngest victims funeral? How many of YOU!!!! HUH!!! Wanna talk about photo op, there ya go, the hateful nasty preacher and his gangbangers are going to that small town and are going to pour more acid into that wound.

                                                          #24.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

                                                          Ho hum, yep the lefty freebie artist continue to demonstrate, why they have zero credibility.

                                                            #24.7 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:14 AM EDT
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                                                            Those who think someone else in the theater having a gun would have helped save lives is nuts......could you imagine three or four other people shooting along with the killer. In a dark theater with people runing everywhere. Those who think guns on everyone would help need to come back to reality. Yes I am a hunter and have many guns.....

                                                            Second, the President has to go....it would be nice if other also showed up.....in harmony....Reps or Dems.....there are times when politics should be in second place.

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                                                            Reply#25 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

                                                            The last thing I want around , if I have just lot a friend or relative, is a greasy politician.

                                                              #25.1 - Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:15 AM EDT
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                                                              aungie2012Deleted

                                                              I see Obama isn`t wasting anytime trying to pick up
                                                              political points off of someone else’s misery. Dam shame he has to stick his
                                                              head in there .Maybe one of them well tell him where to go.

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                                                              Reply#27 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

                                                              and if he didn't go, your post would read, He's the President, he should be there. It must be nice to be able to condemn no matter what. It is sad that you can only see your fringed-out political ideology at a time like this.

                                                              • 7 votes
                                                              #27.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                                                              Rebel - You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm ashamed of you.

                                                              • 8 votes
                                                              #27.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

                                                              rebel1864..... *sigh*

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                                                              #27.3 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                                                              President Obama announced this evening that he will go to Aurora, Colorado tomorrow in support of the people of the city.

                                                              Romney is going to the Olympic Games.

                                                              • ----WAKE UP AMERICA-----
                                                              • --VOTE DEMOCRATIC 2012---
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                                                              #27.4 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

                                                              President Obama announced this evening that he will go to Aurora, Colorado tomorrow under the pretense of supporting the people of the city but really as a blatant attempt to campaign at taxpayer expense. He didn't after all go to any red state that was devastated by tornadoes but this is twice in less than a month to Colorado - taking advantage of the fire and now this tragedy.

                                                              Romney is going to Europe to visit American voters there and to assure Israel that he, unlike Obama, will not abandon them. He is not a fraud that takes advantage of people's misery to win votes.

                                                              • ----WAKE UP AMERICA-----
                                                              • ----Vote Republican in 2012 ------
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                                                              #27.5 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:10 AM EDT

                                                              BL, and of course, as always, his commentary was brilliant and so conscious. A black man in a suit worn by Dubyha. What a hoot.

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                                                              #27.6 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:43 AM EDT

                                                              Going to call big BULLSH!T on you watermoon. YES he did go and tour states and yes even some in the south after the tornadoes. Damn you can't even tell a lie right. Does your mommy know that you are playing on her computer?

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                                                              #27.7 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:09 PM EDT
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                                                              Why does it take Obama until now to go to the scene of the tradegy? Simple, he wanted to test the waters to see which way the attitude of the American Public was going. After all, he is an Illinoise pollitician isn't he? Obama and his inner group carefully plan on which tradgegy to attend, at expense of all of us.

                                                              He cares little for the deceased. Jay

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                                                              Reply#28 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                                                              Wow, you came up with that theory all by yourself huh? You're little tax dollars are footing the bill for his visit, huh? With your theory in tow, some of the victims families may be republican and think like you. But I'm sure they will have the option of either agreeing to meet with the President or not. I'm sure if they do, they won't question is motive of being there. You people are ridiculous.

                                                              • 7 votes
                                                              #28.1 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                                                              President Obama announced this evening that he will go to Aurora, Colorado tomorrow in support of the people of the city.

                                                              Romney is going to the Olympic Games.

                                                              • ----WAKE UP AMERICA-----
                                                              • --VOTE DEMOCRATIC 2012---
                                                              • 3 votes
                                                              #28.2 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

                                                              President Obama announced this evening that he will go to Aurora, Colorado tomorrow under the pretense of supporting the people of the city but really as a blatant attempt to campaign at taxpayer expense. He didn't after all go to any red state that was devastated by tornadoes but this is twice in less than a month to Colorado - taking advantage of the fire and now this tragedy.

                                                              Romney is going to Europe to visit American voters there and to assure Israel that he, unlike Obama, will not abandon them. He is not a fraud that takes advantage of people's misery to win votes.

                                                              • ----WAKE UP AMERICA-----
                                                              • ----Vote Republican in 2012 ------
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                                                              #28.3 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:10 AM EDT

                                                              Jay -I'm an ex Chicagoan - and Illinois is spelled without an (e) at the end

                                                              And you are saying we Democrats wait for a tragedy like this? Are you out of your fricking mind?

                                                              Sorry little boy - go back to the hole you crawled out of

                                                              As for me SHAME ON YOU!

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                                                              #28.4 - Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:10 AM EDT
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                                                              Comment author avatarTonyinWyoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                              Talk about adding INSULT to injury!

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                                                              Reply#29 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:58 PM EDT
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