It's called FACTS and we are not going to let Willard get away with his lies! The Mittness protection program is over.

Without a doubt, Obama is clearly the best thing to hit our white house in decades. An educated rightous family man. The hope and change this country voted for and actually needs can and will be fulfilled by no one better. He has within him the truth of conviction to bring this country closer to what america means to working people better than anyone. The dysfunctional GOP and ol Missfit are not showing me the honorable fortitude that is required. The GOP has been daily proven to be shameful. They have wasted to much of our precious time and treasure in the last DECADE. Obama deserves a second term. The american people deserve a cleaning of congress of the new shame republicans have brought to it.

Realhope

More Obama lies!!! Just disgusting that the liberal media lets him get away without fact checking him.

Romney can always open his mouth, answer questions (that are not scripted by Fox News), and defend himself but he chooses not to. Why is that realhope? Something to hide?

So Barry's Job Czar didn't outsource jobs? Yea Right

Realdope, what lies? Proof is in Romneys job destroying record. Wake up!

Romney is a lying hypocrite. Romney is against women's right to choose but he is for making money by investing in Stericycle, a firm that, as part of its medical industry services, disposed of aborted fetuses.

Romney will do anything to make money - including shutting down factories, and sending people packing.

There is one thing that Santorum got right: Romney is the worst Republican that they could come up with, and on top of that I will add, he is not a good human being.

Romney continued the policy in Massachusetts of outsourcing call center jobs to India.

From politifact.com:

"The Democratic-controlled Massachusetts legislature in 2004 sent Romney a budget with an amendment that would prohibit state contracts with companies that outsource the work to other countries.

At the time, Massachusetts had a $160,000 contract with Citigroup to process debit cards for food stamps. Citigroup outsourced its customer service call center to India. Massachusetts was hardly unique; a 2005 study by the General Accounting Office found 43 states had contracts that outsourced work.

Romney vetoed the amendment, noting that outsourcing jobs saved the state money and even if those positions returned to the United States, they would not necessarily be located in Massachusetts, which did not have many call centers. The bottom line, he said, was that the bill would cost his state and provide little or no benefit."

Romney is all about profit and not about jobs. Hence, it is NOT an Obama lie.

You call our President a liar yet include no facts or statements to back this up and in doing so have done the same thing yourself that you accussed our President of. Typical right wing tactics, it would be funny if it were not so sad.

ContemptMe

Republicans and their "super PAC" allies will hold a substantial advantage this fall.

you got that right - money is pouring into Romney SuperPACs, and no one knows where some of that money is coming from.

You know what the difference is between Obama's Hollywood donors, and Romney's billionaire donors? Actors and comedians don't have much to gain from their support to Obama- actually they have something to lose since Obama is for taxing the rich.

Romney's billionaires will look for deregulation and tax breaks so they can keep even more. There is a reason why someone like Adelson has written checks worth $35 million and counting. He WILL expect something in return.

POTUS & his campaign= Los Desperados....

The ad, titled "Believe", says Obama believes in "insourcing" and favors tax cuts for companies that bring jobs back to the U.S.

Seriously?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40565987/ns/business-going_green/t/wind-their-backs-powerful-democrats-help-chinese-energy-firm-chase-stimulus-money/#.T_MIqvU2fNk

Top Democratic fundraisers and lobbyists with links to the White House are behind a proposed wind farm in Texas that stands to get $450 million in stimulus money, even though a Chinese company would operate the farm and its turbines would be built in China.

The farm’s backers also have close ties with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who, at the height of his hard-fought re-election bid this fall, helped blunt congressional criticism over stimulus dollars possibly going to create jobs in China by endorsing a proposal by the Chinese company to build a factory in his home state. Although his campaign received thousands of dollars in donations from the wind farm’s backers and Reid stood on stage with them at a campaign event they hosted, his office declined to answer any questions about the wind farm’s organizers or their plans for Nevada.

Just disgusting that the liberal media lets him get away without fact checking him.

The problem isn't the "liberal media" you cons love to whine about. The problem Romney is for/against/ for/against/ for everything and against everything at the same time.

"Willard Mitt Romney" is one of the most unaccomplished, yet, factual liars, ever to seek the office of President of the United States, and that is a fact.

Old Romney. Putting Americans last while licking their blood off his fingers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html

"4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad
The claim that Romney outsourced jobs as governor is equally overblown.

This concerns Romney’s veto of a bill that would have prohibited Massachusetts from contracting with companies that outsourced the state’s work to other countries. Lawmakers were especially concerned about a $160,000-a-month contract with Citigroup to operate a system of electronic food-stamp cards that included a customer phone service center in India.

Both the liberal editorial page of the Boston Globe and conservative editorial page of the Boston Herald urged Romney to veto the amendment, saying it would cost the state money. Romney agreed, saying the measure did not protect state jobs — the call center might have moved from India to another state — but “had the potential of costing our citizens a lot more money.” The Democratic-dominated Massachusetts legislature did not override his veto, even though it overturned 117 others, suggesting that there was little real support for the measure.

When the food-stamp contract expired, the Massachusetts Department of Transitional Assistance insisted that those jobs be returned to the United States. But they ended up in a call center based in Utah — just as Romney had predicted."

This is a lie, and the media is complicit. This is the pinnacle of yellow journalism.

Even the Washington Post had to backtrack the outsourcing claim. Someone tell MSNBC to stop lying for 0bama.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/07/03/Politico-to-Obama-keep-lying

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html

...

Regarding the outsourcing claims, we have frowned on these before. The Obama campaign rests its case on three examples of Bain-controlled companies sending jobs overseas. But only one of the examples — involving Holson Burns Group — took place when Romney was actively managing Bain Capital.

Regarding the other claims, concerning Canadian electronics maker SMTC Manufacturing and customer service firm Modus Media, the Obama campaign tries to take advantage of a gray area in which Romney had stepped down from Bain — to manage the Salt Lake City Olympics — but had not sold his shares in the firm. We had previously given the Obama campaign Three Pinocchios for such tactics.

The Modus Media case is also not an example of shipping jobs overseas. The company closed one plant in California and transferred the jobs to North Carolina, Washington and Utah. At the same time, it opened an unrelated plant in Mexico. The Obama campaign once trumpeted the fact that we had dinged a conservative Super PAC for making the same leap in logic.

...

The Pinocchio Test

The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of “corporate raider” to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.

Mitt, who's your favorite Nascar driver?? Uuhmm not sure, but I know this owner and that owner personally as I hang with only millionaires. Let's get out of this sweathog crowd and into out AC skybox seat so we can pretend to like this common man BS. Pass the Shrimp cocktail please, look at them eating hot dogs and guzzling beer, easy prey......

Mitt is a lie, you can see it in his face, walk, and talk.

Nice try David Noah.

Romney placed money over jobs in his veto.

His policy and loyalty are clear.

"Romney vetoed the amendment, noting that outsourcing jobs saved the state money and even if those positions returned to the United States, they would not necessarily be located in Massachusetts, which did not have many call centers. The bottom line, he said, was that the bill would cost his state and provide little or no benefit."

Nice try with the righty news links. It doesn't matter if the jobs went to another state, they weren't in Massachusetts.

Thanks for the correction Eric. I thought David's post was off

The Washington Post had to take back it's article on this because it simply isn't true. What is true is the Job Czar's company GE outsources ~60,000 jobs overseas. Wake up folks....with all that's transpiring your freedoms are going a little at a time and no one notices becasue the handouts keep growing and ~ 52% of the population get entitlement of some kind something for nothing. People that really need help should be able to get it, some provisions of the health care act are great... having the federal government keep growing is not. How many know this....when the government took over sutudent loans it put a whole industry out of work and took choice away. I just don't get it I guess..take away our choice..and nthat's ok because there are folks in need. For all of you really wealthy people out there that continually degrade making it in the US...here's a thought donate ALL your money to the poor...perhaps then my middle class funds can keep my head above water...oh wait we always pay..and please don't tell me how the administration is solving that....watch your tax bills coming folks...make no mistake you will be paying and the wealthy for the downrodden will not be giving up their wealth. It's Ok for Hollywood to throw lavish parties...how about they donate their money to the poor or at least quit criticizing those that worked hard and made it..that's what this country is all about.

Would you admit that the claims in the ad are false?

Or are you just going to swallow everything 0bama tells you even when it has been proven false time and time again.

the billionaires want Romney elected. that is all I need to know !!!!

George Sorros is a billionaire. Who does he want elected?

Eric-913730

Nice try David Noah.

Romney placed money over jobs in his veto.

What someone like David doesn't understand, is that every job that was eliminated due to Romney's veto, was a job that would have resulted in an income tax (federal and state) paying citizen, sales tax paying citizen, and a citizen that would definitely have not depended on unemployment insurance and/or health insurance funded by the taxpayer.

even though a Chinese company would operate the farm

Wind farm in Texas will employ Texas labor. I do not care who owns the company as long as we employ Americans.

David Noah

George Sorros is a billionaire. Who does he want elected?

Between 1979 and 2011, Soros gave away over $8 billion to human rights, public health, and education causes so I guess Soros wants to make sure that the person elected in November is the person who shares his values.

What Bayllie wont admit to, which is right in the article is that the Democrat controlled Legislation could have easily overturned Romney's Veto like they Did 117 other times.

If the Democrats were so concerned about Massachusetts jobs Being shipped oversees then why didn't the Democrat legislation overturn his veto like they did 117 times to other vetos?

David - I am afraid you are fighting a losing battle, though I applaud your appeal to reason. These people simply cannot take part in a rational debate. You present facts, they present uninformed and biased opinions.

And Eric - whether you realize it or not, you are actually supporting Romney with your inflammatory posts. Because when a leader makes a point to preserve jobs, but does so at a substantial cost to his state but with little or no material benefit to show for it, then the state eventually goes bankrupt, and pretty soon everyone is losing his or her job. There is a delicate balance between short term prosperity and long term sustainability, and in this case, Romney made the right decision.

Kragg you left off the part about the equipment being built in China.

even though a Chinese company would operate the farm and its turbines would be built in China.

Are you aware that we do have wind turbine manufacturers right here in the Good Old U.S.A.?

Do you honestly believe we don't have people in the U.S.A. that would be capable of managing a wind farm?

I thought the whole Point of spending $837 billion dollars of taxpayers money was to create jobs here in the U.S.A.?

Why did the Obama admin take $450 million dollars of American Taxpayers Money to Create Jobs in China when it was supposed to be used to create jobs here in the U.S.A.?

Here it is July of 2012 and after 3.6 years of Obama unemployment is still two tenths higher than when he took office. In Jan of 2009 Unemployment was 7.9% and now its at 8.1%.

At this rate Unemployment will return to normal levels in what 200 Years or so?

mt there is no reason to his remarks or yours. Veto? How give a hoot when Romney is outsourcing. Heck plenty of Repubs vetoed the bank bailout but token votes when many voted for it cancelled it out. Romney's state has the worst unemployment record IN OUR COUNTRY! Why? Outsourcing. Lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs to add to it. RomBush sucks.

David Noah --

A few whoppers from ROMNEY All rated 4 Pinnochios

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/romneys-whopper-claim-on-an-obama-health-care-pledge/2012/07/03/gJQAVhk3IW_blog.html?hpid=z4

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-obama-call-americans-lazy-and-soft/2011/11/18/gIQAO5hMZN_blog.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romneys-misfire-on-the-national-anthem/2012/02/05/gIQA5NLKsQ_blog.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romneys-claim-that-100000-auto-jobs-have-been-lost-under-obama/2012/05/17/gIQA9wYMXU_blog.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romneys-nonsensical-claim-about-obamacare/2012/06/11/gJQAdGtdVV_blog.html

I haven't seen one political ad ever that has influenced my vote. If you are so pliable that a left or right leaning ad will make you change your vote, you are soft in the head.

Romney has his faults and so does Obama, they're only human. Some of you post such vile things like one of them wants to eat your children. Let's face it, no matter who runs it's all about the money.

I know mt83. I certainly don't have any misguided fantasies about changing any of The Obama supporters minds.

It's also the realization that they are losing.

I just Keep posting to help the Left keep up the illusion in their own minds that they actually have a chance of re-electing Obama:)

In the off chance that Obama does get Re-elected its not going to matter anyways. Thanks to the Economic Conditions, Which is Obama's fault, and the SCOTUS ruling on A.C.A, Republicans, Tea Party, etc are fired up big time.

Can you say 2010 redo?

The local Elections are going to go bad for the Democrats just like they were in 2010. The House and Senate will be Republican and either Obama will be gone or he will be a lame duck.

The Obama campaign thinks if you say the same lie over and over eventually people will believe it to be true. Obama and the Democrats have conjured up the war on women, race wars, class warfare, and now a war on outsourcing. Most of which began after Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. One thing for sure, no jobs are coming home to a country in total disarray from taxes to spending to healthcare. So at least with Romney he understands why the jobs left in the first place, Obama simply doesn't have a clue. If Obama had a record to run on, he would. Yes we can is now why we couldn't.

Mittens and the lie machine are in full defense mode as more and more facts come out about this self centered bully. Mittens "Flipper" Romney didn't care whose job he destroys, whose pension money he steals, whose company he bankrupts and how many jobs he ships overseas so long as he got his multi millions!

I almost fell off my seat LMAO when I saw this article. Here's the reason why. Two big DEM powerhouse states, NY & CA, are in the process of conducting HUGE infrastructure projects..both are rebuilding bridges. 7.3B project in CA and 400M in NY....Unemployment in CA is approaching 11% and NY is approaching 9%...Both states have OUTSOURCED these projects to a CHINESE contractor. I live in CT, so don't give a rats butt what CA and NY do, however find it completely hilarious when the President can push this type of ad campaign.

Thanks to NAFTA signed by Bill Clinton America came into the world economy like it or not.

Yes Bain Capital helped business overseas. Yes Bain capital hired locally for those company's.

Yes when Romney was elected governor in Mass. there were calling workers already in place in INDIA. Romney returned many of those jobs back to the USA but not all.

WHAT IS BEING TOLD IN THE OBAMA ADS ARE HALF TRUTHS. OR AS MY MOTHER ALWAYS CALLED IT

" LYING VIA OMISSION."

BUT ONLY IDIOTS LISTEN TO ADS FROM THE LEFT OR RIGHT AND BELIEVE THEM ANYWAYS.

ARE YOU THAT IDIOT????

@3rdpartyadvocate...It's interesting you brought up NAFTA, in 2008 I was working for a consulting firm and had a client in the Northwest Territories. I flew from NY to Canada and when I arrived in Vancouver was escorted to customs where they asked me the purpose of my trip which I responded as business. At that point, he began grilling me on what I do and what is it about my role that a Canadian cannot do. At that point, he brought forward a paper which he described as provisions from NAFTA. Bottom line, I needed to pay for a temp work visa or would not be allowed into the country. It's funny, all the crap and jokes Canada gets from the US and they are the only ones that have the balls to protect their citizens from outsourced labor.

Obummer and his supporters are destroying the country.....he will be booted out on his arse and America will begin the healing process and the climb back in November.

Okay, let's just say that this campaign is gonna be negative from BOTH sides, and there is gonna be a lot of lies from BOTH sides. Obama with the outsourcing, Romney with the "Obama apologized for America's greatness." Can we all agree on that???

Now, to those referring to the loss of jobs thanks to NAFTA, that didn't have to happen. For the past half-century, America has sought to embrace free trade to expand markets to US exporters. The problem is that most of the other countries that we conducted free trade agreements with either refused to open up their markets significantly and forced U.S. companies to release technology secrets etc, or that the other nations kept protective tariffs to shield important industries. We simply opened our markets and let the other nations feast on our "free lunch." Now, does this mean that we have to abandon free trade??? Not really. What we must do is aggressively open foreign markets to our exporters who we have opened our markets to, or slap high tariffs on their goods. Secondly, we must establish a "protective barrier" to key industries, notably high-tech and manufacturing industries, so that we can maintain a vibrant domestic manufacturing or high-tech base. Thirdly, we must ban any and all lobbyists representing foreign nations and/or foreign companies from Washington. Finally, we must start offering subsidies to grow emerging markets, like clean energy or medium to high-skilled manufacturing and technology.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

ctdad

I almost fell off my seat LMAO when I saw this article. Here's the reason why. Two big DEM powerhouse states, NY & CA, are in the process of conducting HUGE infrastructure projects..both are rebuilding bridges. 7.3B project in CA and 400M in NY....Unemployment in CA is approaching 11% and NY is approaching 9%...Both states have OUTSOURCED these projects to a CHINESE contractor. I live in CT, so don't give a rats butt what CA and NY do, however find it completely hilarious when the President can push this type of ad campaign.

If Gov. Brown or Gov. Cuomo ever run for President on a platform of job creation, then your comment may be relevant.

@VinneBagadonuts....Nice Spin...

David Noah

What Bayllie wont admit to, which is right in the article is that the Democrat controlled Legislation could have easily overturned Romney's Veto like they Did 117 other times.

1) Romney could have NOT vetoed it but chose to veto it so since his signature is on the veto, it's still Romney's veto.

2) let's see. it's ok for Romney to blame the opposition party when he couldn't pass something (even though he chose to VETO thus agreeing with it but when the Party of NO sabotages everything, it's Obama's fault?

The Republicans vowed on the day of Obama's inauguration to do EVERYTHING to make Obama fail, and they kept the promise. They made it totally uphill for Obama - including the comatose economy they handed over from the Bush Administration. Romney couldn't make it in 2003-2007 even though the economy was good. Romney has one of the worst track records out of 50 governors - 47th to be exact. That's like a D-, and again, this was while things were good.

Democrat controlled Legislation

When one of those Mass legislators runs for office , we will discuss their record. For now, we are discussing Romney's VETO.

those call centers for Mass. were already established before he came into office, Nice try hack.

As for the 47th BS thats because they had at or better than full employment during his term in Mass. It is kind of difficult to add jobs when there is full employment; but the clever measure created by the DNC is the only way they could sling mud. Unfortunately there are enough morons like you out there to parrot this BS to strike peoples emotions and scare them into voting for 0bama.

Everything you know and write is straight out of the DNC playbook of lies, unsubstantiated claims and lies of omission. The sad part is that the DNC has the national media eating from the palm of their hands, spreading fear with stories that are later found out to be complete BS.

Fear the truth.

Yay!! Obama strikes back!

Mac Forrester

"Willard Mitt Romney" is one of the most unaccomplished, yet, factual liars, ever to seek the office of President of the United States, and that is a fact.

No, I'm sorry....Barack Obama holds this title.

The idea of Obama pointing a finger at Romney for outsourcing is ridiculous. Look at all the stimulus money spent in China under Obama's watch. Look at his job czar and how many jobs GE has outsourced. Obama's superbuses he built for one carride from Iowa to Illinois were made in Canada. His appointee, Hilda Solis, the secretary of labor, drives a car built in Canada. Even Obama's campaign spent $4,600 with an outsourced telemarketing firm this year.

The idea that Democrats are blaming republicans for the rampant outsourcing of jobs is a complete joke. Clinton promoted and enacted NAFTA, and more damaging, supported admission of China to the World Trade Organization and agreed to all the WTO free trade treaties. That's what enabled the massive outsourcing of American jobs.

David Noah....bravo! Good job posting pertinant facts.

Mr. Obama: Did you include ALL the GE outsourced jobs in your ad ? Nah, that would be a slap in the face to your Jobs Czar (CEO GE).

How about yourself ? How many jobs were outsourced from your FAILED Stimulus package ?

Or, how about:

President Obama has of late criticized Mitt Romney, accusing him of “outsourcing” jobs while at the helm of Bain Capital. Vice Plagiarizer* Joe Biden even called Romney a “job creator in Singapore, India, China.” It’s a false charge, but coming from an administration that is putting our entire country deep in hock to the ChiComs, it’s more than a bit rich.

But the fact is, the Obama administration stands as rank hypocrites when it comes to outsourcing. Through an Air Force contract, the Obama regime has been trying its best to outsource important national security jobs to a foreign entity in Brazil that has ties to the Iranian government.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/06/27/why-is-obama-outsourcing-national-security-jobs/

How about California's Democrats giving the bridge building contract to China ?

Nah, "outsourcing" of jobs is another political agenda item. The more negative ads on the media, the more the Liberals will eat it up. Blame it on Romney but FAIL TO REPORT YOUR OWN ADMINISTRATION.

The electorate is smarter than what you think they are.

BTW, Mr. Obama.....

Where is the outrage from your Administration on those GM "imports" from foreign GM plants AFTER THEY RECEIVED A TAXPAYER BAILOUT, upgrading/building FOREIGN GM PLANTS, and closing plants in the U.S.A. ?

".....between 2010-2014 GM's restructuring plan also calls for a 98% increase in the number of vehicles it will be importing into the United States from Mexico, Korea, Japan and China, with the number of imports from these countries increasing from 371,547 to 736,743. As a result, the share of GM’s sales in the U.S. market that will be imported from these countries will increase from 15.5% to 23.5%. The overall number of vehicles GM will be importing in 2014 represents the production of four assembly plants, the same number that GM plans to close in the United States."

http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/gm-offshore-outsourcing-us-jobs

Wow, such gall of the Obama NEGATIVE AD campaign. Leave it to Mr. Axelrod.....he will make sure Mr. Obama is going to lose his bid for re-election even though Mr. Obama THINKS what he said: "I deserve to be re-elected".

Why isn't Mitt's team running ads in PA? and so much in FL? Could it be Santorum for VP, and not Rubio for VP? Hmm... I am just thinking aloud... boy it hurts.

I don't think either Obama or Romney are going to do much good for anybody but the corporations and the rich because those are the entities that are bank rolling their campaigns.

Here's the way it really is:

http://www.dropshots.com/OldCrow2#date/2012-06-22/18:57:17

tturd - what a nightmare would that be Romney/Santorum. If that happens, this country can just bend over and kiss it's butt goodbye.

kimh, LOL. No kidding.

"May we see you're ID Miss?" "Oh! Nothing, just a routine check, for potentially fraudulent voters.""Yes, Miss, We're quite aware that it's sixteen years 'till the next election.Would you step in here, and could you empty your purse please."'The Roves are getting quite excited.""Yes, Miss, I do remember when the were called, well what you said, but say god backwards was deemed to be blasphemous. As I'm sure you're well aware.""I'm afraid i'll have to mention that to the Magistrate at you're Speedy Trial."'If you'll step up to the Bar, there this should all be over shortly."Yes, your worship, she had those in her purse. Contraceptives, your Worship."" Oh, of course, Your Worship. undoubtedly a witch.""Yes Your Worship, There's an unfilled set of shackles on the center stake."Oh, look, she fainted, i thought we'd need to gag this one for sure until the pyre took off." Yes, Your worship, HA, HA, all screamers then. That's a good one."" Bailiff, can you give me a hand here. I'd like to have this batch, fired up, before my break."

You know the Obama Reelection Team is worried when they have to begin telling lies this early. What is hard to believe is that they are so easily disproved. Of the five companies that the Washington Post and Obama Team used as proof of Bain Outsourcing two were acquired after Romney left Bain and the other three dramatically added US Jobs. This was provided to the Washington Post, who refused to retract the story.

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/06/120627_facts_on_wapo_story.html

Romney made money for himself and Bain. Where did he create jobs? Mexico and China. Apple is a giant company it also create jobs. 90% of Apple's employees are Chineese. That's a fact!

Hey obama supporters I hope you will enjoy all the new taxes he is putting on you starting in 2013, if not directly from your wallet, then indirectly thru price increases on products, some even hurt the disabled. But do not worry he is going to take care of you. Give you free housing, foodstamps, welfare, medical care, and all you have to do is vote for him, set on your a**es and enjoy the good life.

Six months from now, in January 2013, five major ObamaCare taxes will come into force:

1. The ObamaCare Medical Device Manufacturing Tax; This 2.3 percent tax on medical device makers will raise the price of (for example) every pacemaker, prosthetic limb, stent, and operating table. Can you remind us, Mr. President, how taxing medical devices will reduce the cost of health care? The tax is particularly destructive because it is levied on gross sales and even targets companies who haven’t turned a profit yet.These are often small, scrappy companies with less than 20 employees who pioneer the next generation of life-prolonging devices. In addition to raising the cost of health care, this $20 billion tax over the next ten years will not help the country’s jobs outlook, as the industry employs nearly 400,000 Americans. Several companies have already responded to the looming tax by cutting research and development budgets and laying off workers.

2. The ObamaCare High Medical Bills Tax; This onerous tax provision will hit Americans facing the highest out-of-pocket medical bills. Currently, Americans are allowed to deduct medical expenses on their 1040 form to the extent the costs exceed 7.5 percent of one’s adjusted gross income. The new ObamaCare provision will raise that threshold to 10 percent, subjecting patients to a higher tax bill. This tax will hit pre-retirement seniors the hardest. Over the next ten years, affected Americans will pony up a minimum total of $15 billion in taxes thanks to this provision.

3. The ObamaCare Flexible Spending Account Cap; The 24 million Americans who have Flexible Spending Accounts will face a new federally imposed $2,500 annual cap. These pre-tax accounts, which currently have no federal limit, are used to purchase everything from contact lenses to children’s braces. With the cost of braces being as high as $7,200, this tax provision will play an unwelcome role in everyday kitchen-table health care decisions. The cap will also affect families with special-needs children, whose tuition can be covered using FSA funds. Special-needs tuition can cost up to $14,000 per child per year. This cruel tax provision will limit the options available to such families, all so that the federal government can squeeze an additional $13 billion out of taxpayer pockets over the next ten years. The targeting of FSAs by President Obama and congressional Democrats is no accident. The progressive left has never been fond of the consumer-driven accounts, which serve as a small roadblock in their long-term drive for a one-size-fits-all government health care bureaucracy.For further proof, note the ObamaCare “medicine cabinet tax” which since 2011 has barred the 13.5 million Americans with Health Savings Accounts from purchasing over-the-counter medicines with pre-tax funds.

4. The ObamaCare Surtax on Investment Income;Under current law, the capital gains tax rate for all Americans rises from 15 to 20 percent in 2013, while the top dividend rate rises from 15 to 39.6 percent. The new ObamaCare surtax takes the top capital gains rate to 23.8 percent and top dividend rate to 43.4 percent. The tax will take a minimum of $123 billion out of taxpayer pockets over the next ten years.

And, last but not least...

5. The ObamaCare Medicare Payroll Tax increase; This tax soaks employers to the tune of $86 billion over the next ten years.As you can understand, there is a reason why the authors of ObamaCare wrote the law in such a way that the most brutal tax increases take effect conveniently after the 2012 election. It’s the same reason President Obama, congressional Democrats, and the mainstream media conveniently neglect to mention these taxes and prefer that you simply “move on” after the Supreme Court ruling.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/07/05/five-major-obamacare-taxes-that-will-hit-your-wallet-in-2013/#ixzz1zlSCEYVs

Sheesh! It doesn't matter what the subject is, someone has to make it political!!

Actually the President has a GREAT record to run on.

Obama - Biden 2012

sowrong, how about Bain...we paid 44 million to bailout Romneys fired employees pensions

GDP graph: http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm

Oh my !!! Look how the economy grew after Obama came to office.

The stock market has nearly doubled since Obama took office, corporate profits last quarter were the highest in U.S. history, companies created hundreds of thousands of new jobs and most of the leadership of Al Qaeda have been eliminated.

Most presidents would be extremely jealous of such a "dismal record."

az, great post. Obama got Bin Laden

elliot all those nonsense repeat posts will not make RomBush any better

Nice try Elliot, politifact.com fact checked it and this is the truth:

"Romney vetoed the amendment, noting that outsourcing jobs saved the state money and even if those positions returned to the United States, they would not necessarily be located in Massachusetts, which did not have many call centers. The bottom line, he said, was that the bill would cost his state and provide little or no benefit."

Romney picked money over jobs.....we know where his loyalties lie and its not with the American worker.

azdad48

The stock market has nearly doubled since Obama took office, corporate profits last quarter were the highest in U.S. history, companies created hundreds of thousands of new jobs and most of the leadership of Al Qaeda have been eliminated.

Most presidents would be extremely jealous of such a "dismal record."

But it is still something like 1500 points below where it was when the democrats took over congress in 2007.

Rick-312779

But it is still something like 1500 points below where it was when the democrats took over congress in 2007.

2006

Nasdaq - 2,155.29

Dow - 11,331.34

January 3, 2007

Nasdaq - 2423.16

Dow - 12,474.52

Today

Nasdaq - 2,973.53

Dow - 12,944.38

Somehow your figures don't add up to 1500 points below....unless you think a HIGHER number is BAD...hahahaha

@Eric-913730#2.3: Grew hell! We were in "economic freefall". The man has negotiated the country back up the republican cliff without allowing the gwaddamn right wing tea bagging crazies to cut the rope, even though, yet today, they continue to steal knives.

Look how the economy improved after Bush took office:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/usgs_line.php?title=US%20Gross%20Domestic%20Product%20GDP%20History&year=1993_2012&sname=US&units=b&bar=0&stack=1&size=m&col=c&spending0=6667.4_7085.2_7414.7_7838.5_8332.4_8793.5_9353.5_9951.5_10286.2_10642.3_11142.2_11853.3_12623_13377.2_14028.7_14369.1_13939_14526.5_15094_15601.5

Rick-312779

Look how the economy improved after Bush took office:

Rick, thanks for providing a nice visual that shows everyone how President Obama is doing better than President Bush did.

Nice job and I thought you were on the Republican side, hahahhahahahhaha

BTW, any comments on your stock market claim?

This is the Dow Jones in October just after Bush's last budget year without a democrat congress.
Dow - October 5, 2007 14,066.01

Looks like you are grasping at straws Baylie. hahahaha

BTW, I cut and pasted your haha's since I believe that is in bad taste but in this case it is your bad taste.

Rick-312779

But it is still something like 1500 points below where it was when the democrats took over congress in 2007.

2006

Nasdaq - 2,155.29

Dow - 11,331.34

January 3, 2007

Nasdaq - 2423.16

Dow - 12,474.52

Today

Nasdaq - 2,973.53

Dow - 12,944.38

Somehow your figures don't add up to 1500 points below....unless you think a HIGHER number is BAD...hahahaha

great post bayline some people can not see reason. Like Rick...no cited sources and pure RomBush spiin

elliot . . .

Are you intentionally lying or are you just stupid?

I've noticed that pretty much whenever you post and are confronted with facts that dispute your posts, you resort to name calling. Just an observation ... but it really does seal the deal that you don't know what you're talking about.

@Eric: My post #2.12 may appear hostile to you, or, at least stupid. Wasn't meant that way. There were 2 sentences prior to the first appearing sentence, however when I posted they simply disappeared. Damn thing wouldn't allow me to pull it back and edit. I like your posts and generally agree with all of them. Again, sorry about the error. Regards

I haven't seen any facts yet, Layton. All i see is a bunch of idiots trying to deflect the discussion away from the lies in 0bama's ad.

but carry on.

All these Red Neck Republicans POST Really Dumb A@s.

So very articulate, black.

Soforked: Sorry you're backing a loser there pal. All the wing nuts can do is try to shift blame from Romney to President Obama. Facts don't allow for that so the wing nuts just stick their heads in the sand and hope no one has a brain.

Rick-312779

This is the Dow Jones in October just after Bush's last budget year without a democrat congress.
Dow - October 5, 2007 14,066.01

so ricky, your claim was BEFORE the Dems took over not after. All you are proving to me is that this Oct. 2007 was DURING the DEM Congress.

But it is still something like 1500 points below where it was when the democrats took over congress in 2007.

Dems took over on JANUARY 5, 2007. You are citing October, thus disproving your own cliam.

Thanks for playing but read what you cite before you cite it.

hahhaha, you make my life so much easier...hahahahhahah

Rick-312779

BTW, I cut and pasted your haha's since I believe that is in bad taste but in this case it is your bad taste.

ooohhh, did I hurt your feelings by laughing at you?

Historically, stocks have done better under Democratic administrations than under Republican administrations, so the market's outstanding recovery under Obama should be no surprise to anyone.

Obama will continue to drive us farther and farther into debt. He intends to lower the welfare roles by reducing their numbers using birth control and abortion and will probably add mandatory sterilization. He intends to reduce the social security roles by the use of the Obamacare death panels. He intends to control the number of those that suffer from disabling illness by use of genetic screening.

bayllie

What part of Bush did better than Obama do you not understand.

Three years after Clinton left Bush with a sabotaged economy , rising unemployment and a 5.8 trillion dollar national debt not to mention a largely ignored national threat from Osama bin Laden, Bush had a growing economy and unemployment of 5.4%.

Obama has excuses.

You must be kidding or insane. The Dow Jones was 11,283 on the 1/20/2001, the 1st day of the bush regime. When the traitor shrub left the Dow was at 7,949. Those are facts that even you should be smart enough to be able to Google.

The bushies wiped out 30% of stock market value.

Since Obama replaced bushie, the stock market is now at 12,943, a 63% gain since his term started.

Are you dumb enough to prefer a 30% loss over a 63% gain? And that gain is in less than 4 years. Once Obama is re-elected he may come close to providing the 236% gain realized under Clinton.

Try personal responsibility

You must be kidding or insane. The Dow Jones was 11,283 on the 1/20/2001, the 1st day of the bush regime.

But Rick say, it was because Clinton sbotaged it for Bush....so it's not Bush's fault (Clinton made him do it).

Rick-312779

bayllie

What part of Bush did better than Obama do you not understand.

where???? show me one thing that Bush did better than Obama and I will disprove you...

Three years after Clinton left Bush with a sabotaged economy ,

wtf, are you talking about?????

rising unemployment and a 5.8 trillion dollar national debt

you are comparing what Bush inherited (low debt, low unemployment, smaller government, no wars, balanced budget) to what Obama inherited (2 unpaid wars, Bush debt + Bush debt interest, bigger government, deficit, finished off social security fund, growing unemployment, financial crisis, housing bubble bursting, etc) as Bush had it worse???????

who do you think racked up our high interest credit card? George W. Bush, and after GWB left the office we are still paying the interest on Bush loans and for the wars so yes, that adds to our spending.

not to mention a largely ignored national threat from Osama bin Laden, Bush had a growing economy and unemployment of 5.4%.

Bush had many warnings about Bin Laden but he decided to play a landscape boy at his ranch instead. He didn't give a flyin' f*ck about Bin Laden.

When you start at a 4% unemployment, 5.7% is actually increasing it especially since it was about 8% by the time he left office.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/feb/wk2/art02.htm

here is my visual for you of the last year unemployment growth during the Bush Administration

Bush was the worst president EVER

bayllie - Rick is one of those crazy right wing nut jobs who think they have all the answers and only they possess the truth. If you don't agree with him, it is never merely a difference of opinion - you are not only wrong but stupid. His comments above about mandatory sterilization and death panels lead me to believe he has lost his grip on reality, as well. Of course, he could always post a valid source for the mandatory sterilization and death panel stuff but he won't/can't.

If Romneycare or his wife prefers to set the record straight and show all these accusations to be false, he is free to present his facts.

The bad part is, these are all provable assertions. Romneycare has never created jobs, and in fact, has been providing support and assistance to those that destroy American jobs. He has had success when it comes to creating jobs in China and India, however, but I don't live there.

kimH-1330542

bayllie - Rick is one of those crazy right wing nut jobs who think they have all the answers and only they possess the truth.

actually, everything that Rick posts as HIS proof, disproves everything he claims. It's actually quite comical. Even though it's pointless, I like to argue with someone like Rick because it's entertaining to see what else he can come up with that will disprove his claims.

His end argument? ....Three years after Clinton left Bush with a sabotaged economy....(?!?!?), and him pointing out thamy "hahahaha" were in poor taste. Kinda sad...

RomBush is terriable

Gee, ContemptMe,

Maybe Bush shouldn't have gone to war twice and lowered taxes.

Maybe Bush should have paid for Medicare Part D, which is more expensive than Obamacare.

I love how Republicans pushed the economy off the cliff and try and saddle Obama with it.

Polls are very clear that Americans know which party got us into this mess.

Romney has yet to articulate how he would fix the economy, jobs, or the European situation.

He has yet to say what he would do with immigration and health care.

Romney is playing it safe and so far just presents as the "rubber stamp" for the Rove/Koch agenda.

ContemptMe

dal - Let's see now.....unemployment rose to 10.2% last month

while Bush benefitted from increase of public sector's jobs, Obama's numbers are affected by the DECREASING public sector jobs.

And the number was 8.2%

and every incumbent President that had an unemployment figure above 7 to 8% was bounced by the voters going all the way back to World War 2

unfortunately for us, Bush2 couldn't be bounced since it was his second term - and he did increase our unemployment from 4% to almost 8%, and growing.

By the way, did the unemployment stop increasing at a record pace just because Bush left the office or did it continue????

and now we have U.S. manufacturing which shrank in June for the first time in nearly three years, adding to signs that economic growth is weakening.

Coward Republicans could have voted on a bill that would have eliminated tax breaks for companies that offshore. But the coward Republicans filibustered the bill.

Production and exports declined, and the number of new orders plunged, according to a monthly report released Monday by the Institute for Supply Management.

Dude, have you heard of Europe - OUR #1 TRADING PARTNER????????Have you heard of global economy??? Have you heard of the fact that the U.S. is dependent on what is going on in the world?????

Europe faces a recession and manufacturing has slowed in big countries like China."

how is this Obama's fault????????? Is he the president of Europe and China, too?????

Contempt, uuhhhhhh Romney gave unemployment lots of help. 40,000 manufacturing jobs lost in his state. hmmmmmmmm

Contempt his point is under Repub Bush unemployment was worse that ever and going down. RomBush has the same record in his state

ContemptMe

Bayllie.............Soooooooooooo.....what's your point?

that's your rebuttal? "soooooo"?

Now you sound like Romney: ahhh, ehhhhh, ohhhh ...what? I'll get back to you on that....

Thanks for playing but next time, when you make statements, please have something, ANYTHING, to support them!

Comtempt Obama got Bin Laden

bayllie ...

Obama's numbers are affected by the DECREASING public sector jobs.

Finally someone posted this! Not that people like Contempt Me will get it! Jeeeezzz! Totally funny comments above Contempt! Stomping your foot on the playground this morning????

Romney raised nearly $5 million bucks in on-line campaign contributions within 24 hours after the SCOTUS's decision on Obamacare

And that qualifies him for president???????? Just laughing . . . .

Job1

[The] are new reports that show and give some more details of Willard's business dealings.

With a paid circulation of 200,000, Mother Jones magazine is among the most widely read liberal publications in the United States

Well if people are frustrated and angry now, just elect Romney. Boy you haven't seen anything yet. To have Romney elected President would be a bigger disaster to the United States than the Great Depression. Let’s face the facts that he doesn’t have a record to run on, unless you want to count out-sourced/off-shored. Plus the fact that the man want reveal any of his for policy details.

This country has rarely elected a business man that was successful as President, and it doesn't look like we have a winner in Romney.

Obama is constantly blaming anything
and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck;
I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so
willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with
his own incompetence.

But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been
responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act
responsibly?

In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with
neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job.

When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will
the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could
not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.

Hey Job1 how many jobs has Obama's people shipped to China?

Romney gave government jobs to India....he sucks

GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, The Head Of Obama’s Jobs Council, Is Moving Jobs And
Economic Infrastructure To China At A Blistering Pace

Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama's highly touted "Jobs Council", is
moving even more GE infrastructure to China. GE makes more medical-imaging
machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it "is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to
Beijing". Apparently, this is all part of a "plan to invest about $2
billion across China" over the next few years. But moving core pieces of its
business overseas is nothing new for GE. Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States.
Perhaps GE should change its slogan to "Imagination At Work (In China)". If the
very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are
shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to
turn around any time soon?

I think you mean Bush's mess...so funny how you right wingers blame our current president for the econmomic mess like everything was smelling like roses when he was elected. Do you all have amnesia or are you just liars? I know which I would bet on. Did we slip into another great depression? No! Did the Republicans do all they could to block job growth and the recovery for nothing but political gain? Yes! But you say President Obama is the worst? Wow dont you look foolish!!!!!

great post Dan

Realhope said "I wish people could put the partison view asside and do whats best for the country."

And who decides what's best, you? The stock market has nearly doubled since Obama took office, corporate profits last quarter were the highest in U.S. history, companies created hundreds of thousands of new jobs and most of the leadership of Al Qaeda have been eliminated. The housing market has bottomed out and home values are climbing again.

Still, there are blind partisans who refer to the last 3 years as "failure" and who think a corporate raider who outsourced American jobs to Asia can do even better. Romney can't even acknowledge his most successful accomplishment as governor -- health care reform. Since 2006, health insurance premiums in Massachusetts have gone down by 50%, while premiums went up for the rest of the country. The number of uninsured in Massachusetts went down by 2/3, while the number of uninsured increased in the rest of the country. And yet, the guy who wears magic underwear and believes in millions of gods has the audacity to say that his biggest political achievement was "immoral."

Realhope, no one is arguing that Romney wasn't a successful money grubbing businessman that would do anything to make a buck. More to the point people are arguing is that that is all he is.

A Harvard graduate....summa cum laude....only black to head the prestigious Harvard review........elected to the U.S. Senate four times from the state of Illinois. You call this nothing? Then you are the fool. Romney was a one time gov. of Mass. He didn't run for re-election because polls showed he would have been crushed. Mass. doesn't like him, the Republican party doesn't like him ....he had the most lukewarm endorsements I ever heard FROM HIS OWN PARTY! Mitt is just not presidential material. It's an elected office....not a toy company to loot and kill hundreds of jobs.

Romney created jobs then destroyed them making wealth. This is his CEO record. He could care less about Americans

Dan-629304

I think you mean Bush's mess...so funny how you right wingers blame our current president for the econmomic mess like everything was smelling like roses when he was elected. Do you all have amnesia or are you just liars? I know which I would bet on. Did we slip into another great depression? No! Did the Republicans do all they could to block job growth and the recovery for nothing but political gain? Yes! But you say President Obama is the worst? Wow dont you look foolish!!!!!

#5.6

dal

great post Dan

#5.7

Looks like the two of you have your heads firmly planted up each others a... Experts agree that the unregulated derivatives market is responsible for the severity and tenacity of the recession. Read the following for why it was not regulated:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html

David - A Harvard graduate....summa cum laude....only black to head the prestigious Harvard review........elected to the U.S. Senate four times from the state of Illinois. You call this nothing?

First of all he was only elected to the US Senate once, and he never completed that term. He started his US Senate term in January of 2005 and announced his bid for President on February 10, 2007. He was elected to the Illinois Senate after the Democrats regained the senate through redistricting, and Obama had his opponents kicked off the ballots by objecting to signatures. You can look all that up yourself. He was only elected to the Illinois Senate 3 times.

david-3891268 - "elected to the U.S. Senate four times from the state of Illinois"

I wouldn't try and ride this pony for too far. Illinois is broke and desperate. The Chicago machine will elect any corrupt politician that will give them free stuff. Just take a look at our record - gubernatorial retirement plan - 3 squares and a cot at the state penn.

Realhope

OMG, Give it up!! No matter if you like it or not, Mitt was a succesful businessman. Obama has never been successful at anything, exept deceiving and lieing. Mitt is what we need to clean up Obamas mess. I wish people could put the partison view asside and do whats best for the country.

So in your world, a government should be run like a business? Does that include outsourcing, divestment and bankruptcy? As to doing what's right for the country, we did nearly 4 years ago and we will do it again. You say Romney will clean up Obama's mess...riddle me this:

1. What is Romney's plan to stimulate job growth beyond hyper trickle down economics?

2. What is Romney's plan to reform immigration?

3. What is Romney's plan to prevent Iran from obtaining "the bomb"?

4. Since he no longer likes his Massachusetts plan, what is Romney's plan if he succeeds in repealing the Affordable Healthcare Act?

5. In fact, beyond giving tax breaks to corporations and his wealthy friends...what plan does he have?

Let me modify your post a bit and see what kind of answers you can give.

1. What isObama's plan to stimulate job growth beyond hyper trickle down economics?

2. What isObama's plan to reform immigration?

3. What is Obama's plan to prevent Iran from obtaining "the bomb"?

4. Since he no longer likes his Massachusetts plan, what is Romney's plan if he succeeds in repealing the Affordable Healthcare Act?....I guess I have to give you this one.

5. In fact, beyond giving tax breaks to corporations and his wealthy friends...what plan does he have?

Rick - What is Romney's plan?

And now the Christian Taliban is trying to regain the White House here in the US - what's your point?

Romney knows religion

The Mormon Church has bragged the Book of Mormon is “the most correct book on the face of the earth”. Those words were uttered for the first time by none other than Joseph Smith himself on Sunday, October 28, 1841.

“I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”

Romney knows that as long as he keeps wearing that magic underwear, he too will become a god in the afterlife and have his own planet to rule, just like all those devout Mormons who came before him.

dal

Romney knows religion

The Mormon Church has bragged the Book of Mormon is “the most correct book on the face of the earth”. Those words were uttered for the first time by none other than Joseph Smith himself on Sunday, October 28, 1841.

“I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”

#6.2

dal

great post bayline some people can not see reason. Like Rick...no cited sources and pure RomBush spiin

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#2.1

So where are your references, you lying sack of feces.

I could not agree more. I think more and more people are finally seeing him this way.

All4Spin...sounds like you work for Romney

Looks like you have your nose stuck pretty far up Obama's tush dal.

A Romney Presidenery would be a BANE for America!!!!!!!!!!

Bane

1. a person or thing that ruins or spoils: Gambling was the bane of his existence.

2. a deadly poison (often used in combination, as in the names of poisonous plants): wolfsbane; henbane.

3. death; destruction; ruin.

4. Obsolete . that which causes death or destroys life: entrapped and drowned beneath the watery bane.

Can the message be any clearer?

yeah Palin....

The tighty whitey crowd can still dream about having a real candidate, but Romneycare has already bought and paid for the nomination. You're stuck with Magic Underpants. LOL

The fact is, Romney has a dismal record of creating jobs. He himself has had two. Bain, which he helped found with his dad's money, and the Governor of Massachusetts, where he came in #47 out of 50. Yeah, he is a job creation machine, all right!

Right on Job1

Go take a dip in the cement pond, Jethro.

What? Wonder where you get you ideas...Book of Mormon

1 Nephi 12:23 And it came to pass that I beheld, after they had dwindled in unbelief they became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations. (Joe Smith, Mormon Founder, calls dark skinned people ugly, filthy, lazy, and perverts.)

The libs are going to be frothing like wild dogs, with your comments attacking the "Incompetent One".

LOL bill nice poor me retort

Nah...We're done attacking Bush...

That's why Fox viewers STILL think were attacked by Iraq on 9/11

Obama Lied heath care died!!! and wether you like it or not, its the largest tax on the middle class in history. Just because you dont want Obama to have lied , you like to pretend its not true. I think sometime that many libs have a mental disorder.

Let us hear what RomBush really said

ABC News' Michael Falcone pulls up video from a January 2008 Republican presidential primary debate in which Romney seems to think such a tax is pretty great. When the debate moderator asks, "Governor … you imposed tax penalties in Massachusetts?" Romney defends the mandate by framing it terms of personal responsibility. "Yes, we said, look, if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way," he said. "Don’t be free-riders."

RealhopeObama

Lied heath care died!!! and wether you like it or not, its the largest tax on the middle class in history.

Without repeating FOX talking points, please explain how its the largest tax on the middle class in history.

pure BS! Romney sent OUR JOBS TO INDIA

proudamericanveteran#13: You are either misinformed, or an out and out liar. Fact is, more previously outsourced jobs are back, and coming back to the US than during all administrations combined.

Obama sent our jobs and our money to China.

What happened? You couldn't keep the Faux News actors straight? Jeffery Imelt is from GE. George Soros is from elsewhere..

too true

amen Terry!

The obama legacy is the highest deficit in History - the highest unemployment in History - the highest number of people on welfare in History - the healthcare debacle and amnesty for the new breed of democratic welfare recipients.

obama sucks worse in 2012

Denuts, what? Nice spin. Romneys record in his state...unemployment worst in the country

You know retard, I could give 2 $hits about romney. I am not campaigning for romney but against that skunk you support. The one that doesn't have a political or business clue. The one without a history of being successful.

obama sucking at record pace in 2012

Denuts so under your motto "Vote for Romney because he is not Obama" LOL. Forget RomBushs terriable record

You're not even an American DAL - if you are you are illiterate. Go %uck yourself.

Denuts, your mom taught me to read in bed every night. Sleep well.

nice rant

That's what your mom said.

LOL Denuts

@Deport

So many words, so little to say.

No facts....no policy addressed. Half of your statement attacks Obama on his oratory skills. Really, that's what you're going with. Good luck in November.

Your words are blind hatred and rage in search of justification.

Jumbled thoughts and verbal photo copies of irrelevant minor league talking points.

I've seen better in chain emails written by a hillbilly in the deep fog of conspiracy theories and forwarded to me by my miserable and lonely uncle.

You receive the "Less Than Meaningless" award for your "contribution" to this thread.

Well said

You Enjoy ..... Perfect! That made my morning!

Thanks to NAFTA signed by Bill Clinton America came into the world economy like it or not.

Yes Bain Capital helped business overseas. Yes Bain capital hired locally for those companys.

Yes when Romney was elected governor in Mass. there were calling workers already in place in INDIA. Romney returned many of those jobs back to the USA but not all.

WHAT IS BEING TOLD IN THE OBAMA ADS ARE HALF TRUTHS.

BUT ONLY IDIOTS LISTEN TO ADS FROM THE LEFT OR RIGHT AND BELIEVE THEM ANYWAYS.

ARE YOU THAT IDIOT????

nice rant

Deport-Watch out, liberals don't like facts. They cheat the system, lie to their "followers" and lay down for Democrats because they think, in the end, they'll get something out of it. They remind me of the guy on the corner but their sign reads "I want a handout, not a hand up".

luke, nice try with the Romney koolaid

Actually Lukewarm, liberals like facts... It's just that people like Deport don't have any..

I have seen this list posted so many times here, it's pathetic. It's a right-wing chain e-mail that has been circulating around the internet.

Anyone with an iota of intelligence would stop after number 2 on the list:

First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

Next time, Instead of cut -n- pasting somthing that your idiot brother in law sent you via e-mail, develope those critical thinking skills and you wont look like such a moron.

But every word is the truth. You can't refute any of it.

Vote for Mitt if you want to outsource America.

Vote for Romney if you want tied to the roof of your car for 12 hours

Brain dead liberals. Do you ever, even once, think for yourselves or do you just follow the left like zombies. Mitt Romney is exactly what our country needs, someone who can go in and fix our Federal government, strengthen our economy and get rid of waste, fraud and abuse.

lukeweiner, whatever

Yea lukewarm...and I have a great piece of ocean front property in central NC I would love to sell you!

Mitt is a walking death panel...

LOL we spent 44 MILLION OF OUR MONEY to bailout Bain pensions. That sucks

dal-Idiot, Obama spend $500 million on Solyndra and just today, another Solar company went bankrupt costing tax payers $68 million. Open your freaking eyes!

Hey dummy - obama has us $16 trillion in debt and it's getting worse. He has not done a SINGLE thing for the betterment of our financial situation. He is a scumbag, inexperienced, loser with a voting base of welfare recipients, al sharpton, rev wright and you. Sounds like a great team doesn't it???

obama sucking worse in 2012

I guess according to Deport and luke Romney can outsource American....good luck to ya all.

16 trillion? Aren't we off by a couple trillion? I guess when you are pulling numbers out of your nether region there's no need for accuracy.

The Washington Post today: “Mitt Romney’s financial company, Bain Capital, invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India. During the nearly 15 years that Romney was actively involved in running Bain, a private equity firm that he founded, it owned companies that were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the United States to overseas call centers and factories making computer components, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.”

Nice article.

“Technology companies, in particular, have increasingly sought to outsource the business processes involved in their supply chains,” the filing said. “. . . We offer a range of services that provide our clients with a one-stop shop for their outsource requirements.”

It isnt Bain that is doing the outsourcing its companies like Microsoft, IBM, etc. Bain just provided the services. Those companies were going to outsource anyways whether it was Bain or some other company they used to help them do it.

Modus Media grew rapidly. In December 1997, it announced it had contracted with Microsoft to produce software and training products at a center in Australia. Modus Media said it was already serving Microsoft from Asian locations in Singapore, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan and in Europe and the United States.

Two years later, Modus Media told the SEC it was performing outsource packaging and hardware assembly for IBM, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Computer Corp. The filing disclosed that Modus had operations on four continents, including Asian facilities in Singapore, Taiwan, China and South Korea, and European facilities in Ireland and France, and a center in Australia.

the facts stand not matter the spin. Romney outsourced jobs...been in the news for years

ABC News' Michael Falcone pulls up video from a January 2008 Republican presidential primary debate in which Romney seems to think such a tax is pretty great. When the debate moderator asks, "Governor … you imposed tax penalties in Massachusetts?" Romney defends the mandate by framing it terms of personal responsibility. "Yes, we said, look, if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way," he said. "Don’t be free-riders."

At least He called it what it is a TAX. He didn't lie to the people of Massachusetts did he?

Obama and the Democrats spent Two years telling the American people the Individual mandate was a "Penalty" and not a "TAX". That the Individual mandate was constitutional under the "Commerce Clause".

The SCOTUS ruled that the "Commerce Clause" Does not apply to the individual mandate because the federal government can not force individuals to buy anything, but the Individual mandate was upheld as constitutional because it is a TAX people who don't have insurance would have to pay.

Even now they are still trying to sell it to the American people as a "penalty" and not a "TAX" because the Dems and Obama wont admit they Lied to the American People and have been for Two Years..

David you lie AGAIN

ABC News' Michael Falcone pulls up video from a January 2008 Republican presidential primary debate in which Romney seems to think such a tax is pretty great. When the debate moderator asks, "Governor … you imposed tax penalties in Massachusetts?" Romney defends the mandate by framing it terms of personal responsibility. "Yes, we said, look, if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way," he said. "Don’t be free-riders."

Dal, here's the title of the story you linked in;

"FLASHBACK: Romney Acknowledged His Massachusetts Healthcare Plan Imposed A Tax"

Isn't that what I said that at least Romney admits its a Tax instead of trying to perpetuate a lie?

This is only a tax increase on free loader parasites that want to wait until they get sick and then use the emergency rooms to steal so called free care from decent taxpayers.

A tax? I guess technically. If I owe more in taxes because I can't write off dependents does that mean I'm being taxed for not having children? I guess technically I am if I look at it through right-wing glasses.

The fact is our for profit health care system is broken. We pay around 17 percent of our GDP for less service. Compare that around the world and see that there is a huge problem that needs to be addressed.

And sorry, a republican health voucher program is ridiculous.

nice rant

@dal: I disagree my friend. These "rants" were anything but nice. At best they were hollow, stupid, and generally indicative of severe mental illness. Regards

Are you better off now than when Obama took office? He11 yes, by a long shot! My 401k has more than doubled, my company stopped laying people off and actually started hiring again because business conditions improved, my young adult children still have health insurance and the value of my home has finally started increasing.

Tell me, why would I even think about voting for a guy who says everything this president has done was wrong and that he, Romney, would completely change direction? Really? Life is good, business is up, stocks are up, and I'm supposed to take a gamble that Romney's new direction can make things even better than they already are?

No thanks, I'll pass on the empty Romney promises and give my support to 4 more years of policies that took us from the edge of global economic depression to a pretty comfortable position.

Nice try lukewarm. You disgruntled, 2008, McCain/Palin voters are funny...