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Mitt Romney's campaign is weathering increasing media scrutiny of the candidate's stubborn refusal to address major issues on anything but his own terms, threatening to transform a standoff with the media into an issue in itself in the campaign.
Charles Dharapak / AP
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney sidestepped the Supreme Court decision itself in an initial written statement.
The latest example: the presumptive Republican nominee's general refusal to opine directly on today's Supreme Court decision striking down many aspects of Arizona's tough immigration law, but upholding another controversial component.
Romney's statement sidestepped the decision itself in an initial written statement, and turned its scrutiny toward President Obama.
"Today's decision underscores the need for a president who will lead on this critical issue and work in a bipartisan fashion to pursue a national immigration strategy," Romney said. "I believe that each state has the duty -- and the right -- to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities."
Frustration between the Romney campaign and the traveling press pool reached a loggerhead on Monday during a gaggle with traveling press secretary Rick Gorka aboard the campaign's plane. Gorka doggedly refused to detail Romney's position in a 7-minute availability. A partial transcript, per NBC's Garrett Haake:
Q: Is it fair to say that he has no opinion on the Arizona law?
GORKA: Look, again, I'll say it again and again and again for you. The governor understands that states have their own right to craft policies to secure their own borders and to address illegal immigration.
Q: You're not answering -- what does he think about the policy in Arizona? Is it fair to say he has no opinion? You're refusing to give us an answer.
GORKA: Arizona, like many other states in this nation, take it upon themselves to craft policies for their own specific states. Governor has said repeatedly that states are a laboratory of democracy, what one state crafts may not work in others but ultimately this, again, goes back to the president failing to deliver on his campaign promises. As candidate Obama, he said he would address immigration in the first year and hasn’t and instead put in a stopgap measure four and a half months before the election.
It wasn't until an afternoon fundraiser in -- ironically -- Arizona that Romney addressed the decision more directly, and even still he did so in a circumspect manner.
"I would have preferred to see the supreme Court give more latitude to the states not less. And there are states now under this decision have less authority, less latitude to enforce immigration laws," Romney said before declaring the immigration system a "muddle" for which Obama is to blame. He did not address whether Arizona's particular remedy was one he favored.
The press has started to take note of Romney's availability. He routinely shuns questions on the ropeline after events about the issue du jour, and his press availabilities are few and far between. His interviews are generally scheduled with friendly outlets; the former Massachusetts governor has appeared on only one Sunday morning affairs show beside "Fox News Sunday."
The presmptive Republican challenger to Obama has doggedly refused to offer specifics about Romney's approach toward some of the most consequential issues this year. As we wrote Thursday, Romney is almost exclusively focused on economy, arguably to his political expense if questions about his stances continue to linger.
The Obama campaign is all too happy to encourage reporters' scrutiny of Romney, too. Senior campaign officials said Romney's singular quality is "evasiveness," and the president himself almost seemed to take a subtle shot at Romney on Monday in New Hampshire.
"I will always tell you where I stand. I will always tell you what I believe," he said at a rally.
Romney's previous political experience seems to inform his caution. He drew on his experience as a Senate candidate in 1994 in an interview with the conservative Weekly Standard, in which Romney said that going out on a limb and expressing his support for eliminating the Department of Education. Democrats subsequently turned that position against Romney.
But the countervailing pressures reflect the types of campaigns both Obama and Romney wish to run. Team Obama wishes to turn the election into a choice, and Romney limits that when he doesn't speak to extraneous issues. Alternatively, Obama, as an incumbent, has an ample record from which Romney can cherrypick items to target.
It's not as though the charge that Romney is somehow opaque is a new one; moreso, it can prove sometimes to be a smart electoral strategy. His opponents from the right and the left have been accusing Romney of being a political chameleon -- on abortion, gun rights, immigration, and so on -- for the better part of two decades. It's what made the Etch A Sketch flap this spring such a resonant attack: it played into a core vulnerability of Romney's that crosses party lines.
The question for Romney has become whether this is a strategy he can ride all the way to election. If he and his campaign team stay so singularly focused on the economy and avoid entanglements over outside controversies, can they shrug off the media's protests?
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How about some policy details from Obama? LOL
How about we get rid of all the Republicans who are obstructing the President's policies....
Just wait 'til Nov.!
Mitt Romney's campaign is weathering increasing media scrutiny of the candidate's stubborn refusal to address major issues.....
Its like the old cliche: Is it better to sit there quietly and look stupid, or to open your mouth and remove all doubt.....
Bye-Bye Mitten's
Obama/Biden 2012
A few examples of issues Mitt Romney is evading:
"1. Romney won’t say whether he would undo Obama’s decision to end deportations of DREAM-eligible immigrants.
2. Romney won’t say whether he’d support the Paycheck Fairness Act. Romney repeatedly dodged questions about whether he’d support the Paycheck Fairness Act, a bill to crack down on wage discrimination and close the wage gap between men and women. His campaign didn’t respond to five requests by the conservative Washington Times seeking his stance on the bill.
3. Romney won’t specify which tax loopholes he’d close. Asked yesterday which tax deductions he would eliminate to offset his massive proposed tax-cuts for the rich, Romney refused to offer any specifics on a plan that he has admitted is so vague it cannot even be scored...
4. Romney won’t say which federal agencies he’d eliminate. At a private fundraiser, Romney reportedly told donors he would eliminate or combine “a lot of departments in Washington,” but that he was “probably not going to lay out just exactly which ones are going to go.” Why? Because he feared telling the voters his plans before the election might hurt his political chances, just as it did in his 1994 Senate race.
5. Romney won’t say whether he supports the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Romney’s campaign refused to say whether he would have signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, a law that helps women hold employers accountable for discriminating in the pay practices based on gender.
6. Romney won’t say whether he’d support full reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. Offering only general support for renewal of the Violence Against Women Act, Romney would not specify whether he supported the bipartisan Senate version or the GOP House rolllback bill.
7. Romney won’t say whether say whether he’d eliminate the “carried interest” tax break for private equity partners. Romney’s campaign has refused to answer questions about whether he supports eliminating the “carried interest” tax break for private equity partners, even when asked directly....” (excerpts from ThinkProgress)"
Hey stupid... get rid of, as in how? Bring them all outside and mow them down with a machine gun? You really need to be more specific or people will question your motives.
It's quite obvious that Backhouse wants all the answers from Romney, but ran through 2008 with eyes closed. Define hope and change. Define yes we can. Show me the transcripts of Obama's college career. Explain to me why Obama and Michelle LOST their law licenses. They didn't surrender them, they lost them. Go after Romney for things he's not defining, but completely give Obama a pass on all issues... I can see why you want to vote for Obama... Liberals are blind.
A few examples of issues Mitt Romney is evading:
Backhouse - You could've re-worded your question as: A few examples of issues Mitt Romney "Hasn't" evaded. Then you could've just left your comment block blank, and saved yourself some time.....
The President gets flack because he takes clear positions and follows through with action. It's easy for Romney to stay vague and not commit - He won't say what he will do, and he won't talk about what he has done!
Gee Amy - I guess to you that makes absolutely no sense at all, eh? The media is best friends with Obama but is an enemy to Romney.
Talk about overlooking the obvious... if this is the way liberals think, I am thankful I am a conservative.
President and Mrs. Obama did NOT lose their law licenses.
Amy, you mean like 3.5 years of "evolving" on gay marriage?
BRIAN: What would you and the rest of the Right do if they couldn't blame "The Liberal Media" for all of our societies ills??? Get a new line, woud ya?
I guess that's why the only interviews Willardo does are on Faux News, where Sean Hannity lobs softballs for him, to hit out of the park.
Brianb, so Michelle and Obama both lost their law licenses? Do you have facts or sources to back that up?
pssst Brian...your ignorance is showing
snopes.com: Barack and Michelle Obama's Law Licenses
Yea, I've got a nanosecond to spare.
CITZEN: Have you ever bothered to check out Willardo's positions when he ran for office in Massachussetts???
He was pro gay marriage, pro gays serving openly in the military, not to mention pro choise, pro citizenship for undocumenteds, pro gun control and a litary of other contradicitions. This weasel has had more positions than a porn star.
Brianb, when Not Stupid said "get rid of all the Republicans who are obstructing the President's policies", I think any reasonable person would have assumed he meant by the normal way we have at our disposal, i.e., voting them out. Why di you jump to the assumption about "mowing them down"???
Why should Romney go on the Sunday shows when Republican surrogates out number Democratic guests about two to one. Last Sunday I got an in depth look at Rubio, before that Pawlenty, before that McCain got tp bloviate at me...and Democrats? Well, they did let that lady on who pointed out Ann Romney never worked a day in her life, outside the home.
YABECCO: Why don't you share with us what policy qustions you have with Obama's stances on various issues? What has he kept you in the dark about?
Intrepid1, Yep I have seen. How could I not have?
1. Why is it OK for president Obama to change his positions and not Romney?
2. I have seen Romney's EXCELLENT record and compare it to President Obama's poor record and it is a no brainier on whom to vote for.
I dare you to post that Romney was 47th out of 50 in job creation!
Don't ask Romney what his policies are.
He doesn't know.
Ask Rove and Norquist.
Like Shrub, Romney is a Raggedy Andy, flaccid puppet of the 1% and Teathuglicans.
BB
My dear, you must be missing me to spew such nonsense as you have been posting. Just because I am not well, doesn't mean I have stopped reading or using what is left of my brain and common sense. Sweetie, you just dislike liberals and Obama so much you have blocked out anything positive that could come from that side of the political aisle. I see the same thing from other posters on the opposite side. How about the old line walk a mile in another person shoes and learn something?
HUGS
BIG WAVE TO FEISTY!
*BIG HUG FOR PHINE*
You hang tough GF - we're all rooting for you!
Amy -
You think Obama is getting flack for for clear positions and following through on them? Holy Cow!!! How do you define following through?
Like what he's done to spur job growth and reduce unemployment? Or what he's done to close Gitmo? Or how about what he's done to penalize Wall Street?
Obama's big on words... small on results.
Screeminglib - Snopes is owned by Soros... but I can see why you believe them.
https://www.iardc.org/
Look it up.
Rather then continually attacking the source why don't you try to back up your claim for a change?
See Brian, no matter how much you wish it was so - you do not decide what is valid & what isn't...
You said the Obama's lost their law licenses & all we are asking is for you to PROVE it!
We can then let the readers decide who is telling the truth...
BitterBrian
Facts are facts ....deal with it
Ask Billo
Bill O'Reilly: Separating Fact From Myth Regarding President Obama - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News
As it should, Feisty. Since the reich wing grows tiresome- poor hate-filled delusional trogs...How ironic that those who most need their meds are the ones trying to stop Obama from helping them to recieve it.
. Why is it OK for president Obama to change his positions and not Romney?
Romney has about 5 positions on every issue every day.
but you didn't do your own research screeeminglib. You'd rather believe what other people tell you without looking it up for yourself. I gave you the official link... no snopes, no bill o'reilly... I gave you the state site where it recorded the event.
I understand, you'd much rather believe the lies people tell you... typical reaction from a liberal... too lazy to look it up to be shaken up by the truth. Imagine how broken up your world will end up if you ever learned the truth about Obama and how many lies he has spoken... I realize libs like you base your whole world on Obama... seeking government hand outs, looking for the rich people to pay for your lives while you can sit home and watch All my Children... and then switch to The Price is Right... no responsibilities, no worries... the government hands you everything you need... Liberal heaven.
Just because an attention seeking, controversy creating, ratings seeking, trying to get out of a dry spell reporter barks a question and doesn't get an answer ---- that doesn't mean Mitt Romney is hiding anything. Romney is running for President of the United States, and should be treated with such respect as the office demands.
He will tell the reporters what he wants to tell them ---- when he wants to tell it to them. Does the dog wag it's tail, or does the tail wag the dog?
Charlie-1915998
. Why is it OK for president Obama to change his positions and not Romney?
Romney has about 5 positions on every issue every day.
Obama's only position is for you to vote for him. Did you see his website where he's begging those about to be married to have the guests donate to his campaign instead of offering the bride and groom a wedding present... and those about to have a birthday.. don't be surprised if your grandmother donates to Obama's campaign instead of giving you a birthday gift.... say goodbye to the $50.00 checks.
Mittens doesn't have to say anything. He said it all during the Republican debates.
We have it all on video. He can run, but he can't hide.
BitterBrian
Rather than stamping your feet and whining when its been prove your wrong why dont YOU post your source?
In this instance ill buy what Bill Oreily and snoops has to say THE OBAMAS NEVER LOST THEIR LAW LICENSE
But now I can see why you lost your job....to dumb to believe your own eyes
Can't the libs understand that a person running for president doesn't have enough information to actually make policy statements. Look at President Obama, he promised to throw out so many Bush policies and we are still at GITMO, still have the Patriot Act, the Iraq war ended on Bush's terms (not Obama's), we escalated the war in Afghanistan. So please tell us how Mr. Romney could do any worse then the failure we currently have in the White House.
Mr. Romney has already laid out the entirety of his major policy plans to Bob Schieffer in a June 17 interview regarding immigration policy on CBS's Face the Nation:
"MITT ROMNEY: We'll-- we'll look at that-- we'll look at that setting as we-- as we reach that."
Thus far, that's all we've heard about anything Mr. Romney plans: Vague, nonspecific, vacuous emptiness.
Romney has morphed into the on-stage mannerisms of Johnny Carson during a bad monologue nite. "El Bomb-o"! No matter how he attempts, his lack of delivery and punch line (if on occasion he might have a punch line) is left dangling in the oxygen free bubble.
screeeeminglib... I gave you the source. It's there. Shall I spell it out for you, or are you too afraid to go take a look at the state website? It's there if you will slowly open your eyes... one peek at a time...
Your perception of bitter is typical liberal. You guys can't stand it that conservatives show you things... that you never look at... so you live in your little bubbles of falsehood and call us bitter... I laugh at your ignorance...
How's those polls going for your losing president? 5 months out and he's falling like a rock... watch us independents... we are slippery little gollies.
Let me know when you lose your job... I want to hear your experience of how it feels to wonder if the house note will be paid... but wait.. they can't foreclose on your rental... but they can kick you out... ROFL... I wouldn't be too arrogant if I were you... nothing is safe these days... Tell you what... I have a great big box in the back I can give you to live in... There's a bridge near by where you can stay under when the time comes....
There's nothing like arrogance to reach around and bite you right in the crotch.
A half an hour & two comments later and you still haven't proven your accusation...
Is this where I am supposed to be surprised?
Come on Brian... hit us with your best shot!
Okay Brian. I looked up your links. In both cases it says the following:
Voluntarily retired and not authorized to practice law
That's all it says. Which is perfectly consistant and appropriate for their circumstanses - meaning they are not likely to practice law while being president and first lady.
Shesh - what a tool.
Brianb-999431
It's quite obvious that Backhouse wants all the answers from Romney, but ran through 2008 with eyes closed. Define hope and change. Define yes we can. Show me the transcripts of Obama's college career. Explain to me why Obama and Michelle LOST their law licenses. They didn't surrender them, they lost them. Go after Romney for things he's not defining, but completely give Obama a pass on all issues... I can see why you want to vote for Obama... Liberals are blind.
Okay, Brian, so I went to your link you posted and it proved that you are wrong and guilty of telling lies just as well as any politician. Under both Barrack and Michelle Obama's record it says Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law. Do you not know what voluntary means? There is nothing there that says anything about their licenses being taken away. You should get a job at Fox News, you would fit nicely.
Unfortunately for you, Brianb, your source only shows whether or not they are currently authorized to practice law. It doesn't give the "why," which really obliterates any potential talking point you may want to make out of it. Any future defense on your part will just look pathetic.
Brianb-999431
Look it up.
______________________________
Brian -- I looked up your link to the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission. I am not here to call you names -- simply explain what you don't understand about law licenses and the practice of law. I am an attorney so have a tiny bit of knowledge in this area. When you do an attorney search on the site as I assume you did, you see the following for both the President and the First Lady:
Illinois Registration Status: Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law
Public Record of Discipline and Pending Proceedings: None
Many people choose to become voluntarily inactive when they no longer live or practice in a state for the duration of the sabbatical. While on inactive status you do not have to take the abundance of continuing legal education courses and you do not have to pay for the extremely expensive malpractice insurance. You cannot practice law during this time but at any time when you are ready to begin practicing again, you purchase your malpractice insurance, resume taking CLE courses, and pay a fee to be switched to Active. You, I am also sure, noticed that it says right on the pages that there is no record of discipline proceedings (i.e. there is not reason to pull their license). I sincerely hope this clarifies the ins and outs of law licenses. I realize it doesn't come from Fox News but it is factually based. If you need any further clarification feel free to post a comment...of course a mere "thank you and I was wrong to allow my hate to cloud reality in this instance" would suffice. Seriously, everyone, I am so tired of the hate on all sides.
Mitt has already given us his policy details. He's said, " I like to fire people!" As a former YR I can't believe how far to the crazy right the party has gone. Barry Goldwater would be considered a moderate today!
I know everyone else has already called Brian on this, but they're right. Try checking Factcheck.org, they call both sides on their BS.
The one thing politicians fear most: an informed voter.
Screaminglib: Thanks for posting a link about the Obamas law license situation. I posted one and it didn't make it for some reason. There's an article currently linked on the front page at factcheck.org.
Here's the money quote:
"'But James Grogan, deputy administrator and chief counsel for the ARDC, said that the Obamas were “never the subject of any public disciplinary proceedings.'”
JulieB-42
Thanks for your shout out. I believe after 6 months you will be able to add links.(Feisty will know for sure..she knows EVERYTHING).
I've been here for more than six months. Sometimes I've been able to post links, sometimes not.
And you know, it's Monday. Things go wrong. In abundance! ;-)
It said they lost their law licenses on the internet .... so.. it must be true. LOL!!!
Laughing me ass off! Anyone seen our good friend Brian?
Where OH where did he go?
Julie, all you have to do is to keep posting on a somewhat consistant basis & you will be out of the "green-house" in no time! ;o)
If you have been around longer then six months - you need to contact Newsvine via the report bug feature...
In the meantime, we got your back!
All you have to do is hollar & we come running...
ie; which way's the wind blowing. This guy is as phoney as a rubber nose. I can't believe this is the best the Repub's have to go up against Obama.
See...
Feisty does know everything.
Obama/Feisty 2012
[Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law.]
So, Brianb...you looked at the link you posted like you're looking for a job...
...you didn't, and you're not...
I mean, why would you? After all, collecting that fat Gubment unemployment check each week is a pretty good gig, according to you, right Brian?
And you actually took your foot out of your ass long enough to promptly place it into your mouth by stating Soros "owns" SNOPES?
I'd like to envoke Cheney here: SO?
LoL...but you've always loved a good "conspiracy theory", dontcha Brian...if only you loved looking for gainful employment as much as you love conspiracy theories...
...if only...
Every time Romney avoids answering direct questions from the media, the less voters will support him. But before we even get to policy details, how about some tax returns?
According to David Cay Johnston, Romney’s refusal to release his tax returns indicates that Romney has “been thinking about this since before Bain” but the American people deserve to learn:
Did Romney buy illegal, gray-market tax shelters?
Was Romney audited in a way that the government found serious problems?
Did Romney make use of offshore vehicles in order to defer or not pay taxes?
Did Romney take advantage of things that were not caught in audits by the IRS?
If Romney’s returns are clean, if there’s nothing to worry about, then why not just provide them?
JulieB-42
You registered/joined MSNBC/Newsvine on May 9, 2012. Keep posting. You can contact Newsvine and ask for permission to post links. Go to your Newsvine page and click "contact us".
How about his damn birth certificate!
I believe brianb must still be trying to find the information at that link he posted. Maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.
Well, Romney had better come up with some sort of opinions before the debates start or he'll be in trouble. I guess he's finally figured out how to stop flip-flopping, just don't have an opinion in the first place and you won't have to change it tomorrow.
and he's not concerned about poor people either. Kinda makes you all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it?
John Wesley Hardin: Fastest Gun in the West.
Willard Mitt Romney: Emptiest $3,000 Suit in the East.
Brian must think we're as gullible as the teanuts are. You know, you say something anti Obama and they all nod their heads in unison like a row of bobble heads.
Care to elaborate?
Why can't a candidate have knowledge of current events? Don't they watch the news and see how current policies are shaping the nation? Can't they from that state how they would do it differently? Saying just that you would do it differently isn't answering the questions at all.
It's a week from month seven of the year 2012. Only four months and a week from the election and we have no idea what Romney's plans are. If vague were a way of life, he would be living it.
Are we even going to find out before September who his VP pick is?
How can you cast an educated vote for someone when you have no idea how they intend to fix things as they see fit? Never mind if the ideas are good or bad, but rather that their are ideas to begin with.
This is it in a nutshell. Wikipedia, FactCheck, MediaMatters, along with mainstream media (expect FOX Noise--riiiight) cannot be trusted! And that goes for so-called experts, the CBO, economists, and most of all scientists. The good people of the United States can only rely on Hate Radio, conspiracy websites like WorldNetDaily, or better yet chain Emails from unknown origin for the truth!
Think about it. You hate the FDA. Would you prefer to take your chances against e. Coli? You hate the EPA. Would you prefer to take you chances and allow fracking near your water source? You hate the medical community. Snake oil salesmen, now that's much better.
This is what happens when the Fairness Doctrine is abolished and FOX Noise can pretend to be a news outlet. This is what happens when our education system is decimated and students no longer learn what a credible source is, or research methodology, or empirical methodology. The Flat Earth Society is leading the way.
The rightwing is taking our country off a cliff. Throw the Teapublicans out!
It is amusing that the Rep/T.P. consider N.Palosi's remark to check it out later unacceptable,yet the person whom they wish us to vote for as POtUs can assure us to vote for him and we will be content as he can do better. Lol
Brian 999---/You hate Liberals! Would you look up then tell me what you think of a Liberal conservative? Yes there are many of them.
Just remember all you flaming libs, if Obama gets re-elected, then steps on the gas continuing to push a 1.5 trillion plus deficit per year ---- then the Chinese stop lending to us and we start to print more money to get out of it ---- and hyperinflation sets in and overnight your money becomes toilet paper ---- don't come crying to me or anybody else who tried to warn you.
The only man who has a chance, and could very well get us out of this mess ---- Mitt Romney ---- you keep shunning and laughing at every day. Yes, you keep stomping on the man who could very well get us out of this huge mess. Where is your logic?
WOW... TASM shut down BrianB with REAL facts..... Brian just wants to be SO important and is so bitter that he obfuscates when given facts and just continues to rant and rave using Faux News or Koch Bro talking points. I can't stand Bill O, but figured gee, Brian MUST like him so why doesn't he listen to him on this point???? Cause Brian has a little man complex..... pure and simple.
Since I have so much time on my hands lately (hopefully more than the docs think), I have been trying to look at all parties and be as open minded as I can. If this is my last election, I want my vote to mean something. Sorry, GOP side, I can't figure out Mr. Romney's position on some issues. I do not just go to sources on left - I try and read all views. From all I gather from my reading, I keep seeing the fall of the Greek Empire (try reading history folks, may learn something). Best comment above the Dewey analogy.
SUPER BIG HUG, FEISTY, ME FAVORITE MOUTHY LASSIE!!!!! MAY MY GRANDDAUGHTERS HAVE YOUR PASSION FOR LIFE
Brian B
Drop it, you are making "A" out of yourself. They both voluntarily gave up their active status. There are no record of formal proceedings against them. Lawyers are lucky. Most other professions show more status information and record any disciplinary actions.
OFF THE SUBJECT - Tropical storm Debby is really kicking our ass down here. I didn't expect this from a storm named "Debby". Right now the power is going on and off, TV/internet going on and off, huge limbs and palm fronds are falling on the roof and leaves are hitting the windows and freaking my cats out. We have had days and days of heavy rain and wind gusts. If I never make it back on here again, you can find me in OZ.
Could we get another candidate please? I don't like either Tweedledee nor Tweedledum.
RedSoxRule "How about some policy details from Obama? LOL"
Yes - I don't recall any concern about the total lack of specifics from Obama when he first ran for office - nor even when he's been president now for 3.5 years.
What was it the CBO said about Obama's lack of 'specifics' in his State of the Union speech? Oh yes, it was "We can't score a speech". Rhetoric is all Obama knows.
Kim,
Here in NE FLA (St. Augustine). We are about to float away with all the rain. I imagine we will see the wind this weekend. So much for our beach renourishment that had been going on!
Good luck to you!
Lest we not forget the importance. Batten down the hatches and take care of yourself and your family.
Hey hungrymongoose. Post 1.30. "Romney is running for president and should be treated with such respect as the office demands." After what we have witnessed since Obama took office, your statement is completely absurd. Your party has brought COMPLETE DISHONOR to the office of president. After Bush's screw job and McConnell's stupidity, republicans lost any and all of their credibility. Simple math. You have allowed yourself to be polarized to a point of ignorant of the facts that are as plain as the nose on your face. Most americans see it, why don't you? This new GOP has not earned any respect and obviously is not trying to. Nor will it in the future if they do not get rightous AMERICAN leadership. Obviously there is NOT A SINGLE rightous republican left. Ask any old republican. Simpson from Wyoming comes to mind. He'll tellya.
Romneys actions speak for him..
Romneys latitude extends to illegals making pennies to work in his yard!
Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’
By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.
Can't you'alll give the guy a break...He is just employing the "Nancy Pelosi" philosophy..."You have to elect me, before you can find out what is in me"
And not that it really matters, what he claims to be for and against today, because once he is Office his views will "Evolve" back to where he has always been...Just another Big Government Liberal with and "R" on his Lapel
Hungrymoose
The deficit increased dramatically under Reagan. It continued to go up under Bush 1. It finally balanced out by the end of Clinton's term, but Bush 2 wasted no time at all raising it. Obama has raised it considerably, but it was necessary according to most economists (you can debate that if you like). Reagan raised it because of a bad economy, as did Bush 1. Bush 2 raised it to pay for tax cuts that he thought would be a good idea even though we were at war. What could possibly make you think Romney will be different?
Romney, the little we have gotten from him, plans to cut taxes even more. He plans to increase the budget for defense. And he says he will balance the budget. What does this mean?
It means he is either going to completely gut social programs, including social security and Medicare or there is absolutely no way he can possibly not raise the deficit considerably. Most likely, even with gutting social programs it won't balance the budget. You do the math. If there is another way let me know. I suppose you think with the taxes so low that the economy will jump so fast it will make up the difference. If so, where's the evidence? It hasn't worked in the past.
"Obama's only position is for you to vote for him."
Total bunk. Romney was for government health-care before he was against it. He was for gun control before he was against. He was for a woman's right to choose before he was against it. He's for/against/ for anything depending on who he's talking to.
@Charlie
Sadly we still keep falling for it (American Voters)...And for you to imply that Obama isn't doing the exact same thing...just shows that you are too
Romney absolutely thinks you should vote for him. Or maybe not. He'll get back to you on that one.
How can anyone honestly vote for someone who has no opinion on anything, and has changed positions on everything. Govenor Romney is like an empty shell, there is nothing at his core.
@Frank
exactly what are you trying to say...that no one should vote this year...you could not slide a piece of paper between these two candidate's character...
It seems that Mitt will only spell out anything smacking of details to those at his ultra-rich gatherings of donors, i.e. the one in FL where he was overheard giving much more specifics than he's ever given to the press, or his recent little invitation-only big bucks soiree in Deer Valley, UT.
He's more than willing to spill his gut to anyone with enough $$$ who will support him, i.e. Adelson, but not to the rank and file American voters who he wants votes from.
Sorry Mitt...you change your position on issues more often than a chameleon changes colors.
And I see that poor little ol' Brianb got his butt handed to him...yet again. Seems to happen with all-too-frequent regularity for that lad. But then, not knowing or understanding the premise of a link that you provide as the basis of an argument will always cause you to lose.
And News Corp., which owns Fox News, is owned by Murdoch, so by your own infantile standards, you have painted yourself. Once again Brian, you fail to make a point.
Yep...but for him, it's a career.
Can you liberals stop quoting Think Progress and start Thinking For Yourselves?
President Obama's immigration policy is to NOT enforce federal immigration laws, which violates his Constitutional responsibility. The White House web site says that "Under Article II of the Constitution, the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws created by Congress." It does not say the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws that he likes and will help him satify his base in order to get reelected. President Obama did this with Defense of Marriage Act, which was passed overwhelmingly on a bipartisian basis and signed by a Democrat, President Clinton.
Where are Romney's tax returns? The Obamas have released their tax returns every year he has been in office. Romney on the other hand doesn't want the American voter to know how much money he makes, where he hides it (offshore) and he definitely does NOT want you to know how much tax he pays on his income. He does not want you to know that the average tax payer pays a higher tax rate than Romney. He does not want you to know the number of deductions he takes and what he takes the deductions for ( 30,000 dollars a year for his dancing horse?). Romney has asked for and received an extension on the date he must file and you know he will ride that extension up to the election if he can. Demand that this slime ball release his tax returns as other candidates have done!!! Just what is he hiding?
The truth is, it takes work to be a liberal. There is no more undefined position in politics. No one really knows exactly what they stand for, big government, big spending, tax increases, free birth control, gay marriage, wind power, solar, and singing Kumbaya. Liberals take positions based upon the direction of the wind, which is exactly how Obama leads on any issue. So realistically when you stand for everything, you actually stand for nothing.
So lets see, Obama stands for jobs, just not the ones like the Keystone Pipeline. But Solyndra is fine, because he was able to pay off some of his cronies before they went belly up. Drilling for oil or natural gas is fine, just not on any federal land or jurisdiction. We are now going to stop deporting illegals that fit into the mold that we had not been deporting anyway. Laws are only guidelines to Obama, and those he doesn't like will not be enforced regardless of the oath he took.
I guess when liberals espouse hypocrisy, not only is there no mechanism for accountability, there is no hope for real change. Obama ran on an incoherent message, and his presidency can only be described as a temper tantrum. Never has there been someone that acts less presidential then Obama. The nation has been treated to an endless parade of excuses, blame, and lack of results. Leaders overcome the obstacles, they do not make excuses for not being able to get around them.
After Obama's last speech in Cleveland, even the liberal talking heads were saying, "Quit giving us rhetoric and tell us what you are planning to DO." He was dealt a hand and has played it terribly. His "divide and conquer" mentality (a la Saul Alinsky) hasn't worked very well to govern as president and now he has NO IDEA what to do, so he just doubles down on the hatred and condescension. I've never seen a president who has declared war on more groups than this one has. He is at war with the church, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, the republicans in congress, the wealthy, Wall Street, "big business", oil companies, insurance companies, taxpayers, the states who want to protect their borders, et al..... He really is "The Great Divider", and our country can never start to heal until he is gone from office.
Obama has been the great AWOL president, doing little but traveling around the country to criticize and blame others. Oh, and to play golf. Somehow, he's found the time to play over 100 rounds of golf in the last 3 years. It must be nice. Wish I had that kind of time.
Anyway, back to the original topic about lack of details in Romney's stump speeches. What changed since 2008? Offering hope and change was good enough then? Obama, worst president ever by 5X's.
I'm a Republican, so I can Quote RONALD REAGAN who once said: Mitt Romny "TEAR DOWN THAT WALL" of LIES and SECRECY and DECEIT of your HIDDEN SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS, also your Phony, OFF-SHORE, CAYMAN ISLAND, SHELL COMPANIES and you LOWER than the REST of Us 15% sweetheart, under the table, TAX RATES. Mitt, you can NOT HIDE FOREVER. The Associate Press, and Mainstream Media is SHINING their "SPOTLIGHT of TRUTH LAMP", on you!
My fellow Republicans, Ron Paul Supporters, and Undecided Independent Voters, I urge you to VOTE a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this NOVEMBER 2012. You'll be glad you did!
I also suggest to all Freedom Loving Americans to go see the 2 recent sci-fi Movies, "The Hunger Games" with Woody Harrelson, and "In Time" with Justin Timberlake. Both these Movies show Exactly what the Republicans and Mitt Romney have planned for the Working and Middle-Class, and it's Not a pretty-sight. Don't let the REPUBLICANS and MITT ROMNEY DESTROY the WORKING and MIDDLE-CLASS. Don't let them do it. VOTE a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this NOVEMER 2012. Thank-you.
Q.)How does a party of milllionaires and billlionaires get the guy with a $10@hour job to vote against his interests?
THrough force feeeding him a disgusting gruel of anti-gay marrriage, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant, anti-intelllectual, anti everything except anti 'Em and repeatring the whole forumular until it seeems plausible.
BTW It takes a good saleman to pitch that kind of mess; I doubt if ROmney is going to be able to do it.
Obama's policy on any topic:
"What do I need to say to get the most votes?"
Romney's policy on any topic:
"What would you like to hear? I can say that!
According to the article, President Obama said, "I will always tell you where I stand. I will also tell you what I believe."
The problem is that he won't tell the American people what he and his administration are doing. The self-proclaimed "most open and transparent" administration in history is aggressively fighting Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests at the agency level and in court on many different issues and is going after whistle blowers. That's a fact...
and with regard to the recent Fast and Furious scandal, the American people deserve to see the missing papers, just like the American people deserved to hear the "18 and a half minute gap" in the tapes 40 years ago.
To Repubs for Oboma! You are a Republican just like I am a jet airplane pilot. Not!
Sorry folks. When I look at Romney, all I see is a turd.
Romney is clearly having a BIG problem with moving to center for the General. Apparently, Republicans have dared Romney to do anything other than move further to the Reicht, so Romney can't hardly open his mouth to say anything other than the usual Republican Mantras and talking points.
If Romney attempts to move even one inch to the center, he'll lose his base and all those Teagaggers, but he won't get any Obama Voters to fill the gap, and the further Romney moves to the Reicht the more he loses traditional Republicans.
Yippie!
Obama/Biden 2012
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Never saw that coming! lol
Instead of the MSM media moaning over the fact Willard won't answer any questions on the blog's - it should be the lead story on every networks nightly news!
Those who live outside of the political world of punditry should be made aware Willard is hiding out in the Mittless protection program again & the MSM are his enablers!
You can run Willard... but YOU cannot hide forever!
Mittless protection program
Feisty, That's a good one...LOL
Romney has no policies nor principles for that matter. His entire platform is "I am not Obama", which, sadly, seems to be enough for some people.
Republicans consider war to be shovel ready jobs.
But this president certainly hasn't ended the horror in Afghanistan. When it was Obama that proclaimed this statement, maybe his hope and change program included extending the war as far as he could. Obama doesn't seem to be shy of killing people in other nations.
Don't ask Romney what his policies are.
He doesn't know.
Ask Rove and Norquist.
Like Shrub, Romney is a Raggedy Andy, flaccid puppet of the 1% and Teathuglicans.
Remember, Emporer Grover said all they needed was a candidate with enough 'digit's' on one hand to sign the legislation put before him!
Since, Willard has some serious issues when it comes to values, I would think he would be the perfect person for the J-O-B!
Romney is acting like Tom Dewey did in 1948 -- playing not to lose. And like 1948 a not so popular Democrat is going to win by running against a do nothing Congress and the big money interest. If we can learn anything from the NFL it’s that a “prevent defense” prevents you from wining.
Expose for all to see how Obama has completely neglected the borders of this nation.
That's a load of crap. The vast influx of illegals happened under George W. Bush. President Obama has deported more illegals in 3 years than Bush did in 8.
Lo & Behold, Americas Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM)have been Reduced by the RepublicanRightWingBibleThumpin Crowd, to makeing excuses for themselves, as to Why they(the Carnival Barkers)can't Coax Malibu Mitt to come Clean with ANY Policy Details, on ANY Subject !
Americas Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM), have become such a PATHETIC Bunch, that the Back of the Bus, in which they sit, Reeks of the Stench of a stopped Up SEWER Line.
Must be nice to have a Payed Position in which your Only JOB requirement, is to make EXCUSES as to Why you can't Convince a Presidential Candidate(or Any Candidate) to Answer your Questions!
UnReal !
You Betcha!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
That's a load of crap. The vast influx of illegals happened under George W. Bush. President Obama has deported more illegals in 3 years than Bush did in 8.
Prove it. I'm still waiting for a liberal to prove this as fact. Let's make sure we use all the statistics like where the illegals were turned back from... how many came across versus how many were returned... How many went unnoticed, how many didn't kill border patrol agents with US guns offered by the Justice Department.
Liberals can say anything they want and not have to prove it... but until one of you come up with the real numbers from real sources... I feel you are all full of shi+ and shills for Obama.
brianb, why don't you look it up. If you find otherwise, you can post the link just like you did the link that proved so clearly that the Obamas lost their law licenses.
try this one:
usgovernmentbenefits.org/hd/index.php?t=deportations+under+obama...
but I don't imagine you would believe any of the many links we could supply.
[I feel you are all full of shi+ and shills for Obama.]
WAH!
He also said he wanted to build a wall. Some kind of a wall, as he put it. My first thought on that was, who's gonna pay for it? Does this guy think we're all stupid? Guess so. He'll see how stupid we are in November when he loses.
Hi there Mickey, my love! What's up buttercup? ;-)
I don't usually find you on an NBC article.. heads up, my friends!
[Hi there Mickey, my love! What's up buttercup? ;-)]
Cyn, how you doing dollface? Good I hope! What's shakin'?
Not too much going on here...the CSA takes most of my time, but the farm is doing great this year! It should help out loads of people who wouldn't normally have fresh veggies on the table...
[I don't usually find you on an NBC article.. heads up, my friends!]
Yea, gotta remember to keep myself in check while I'm here...I already got a "day off for poor behavior" earlier this month...but I feel priviliged...kinda like joining the Mile High Club! ;)
ROMNEY COULD BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT????? Bush was a doofus but Romney scares the crap out of me. This man has no business running anything except the elevator from one car to another.
KimH: and all in the way of the storm, stay safe!
NewDay
Got any sandbags handy? Cats are not happy that the patio is flooded. If I could stop the water from coming in there, they would stop stealing my pillows! My herb garden is VERY happy right about now. I can eat the herbs - not my pussy cats! LOL
"Prove it."
Brianb -- prove all the crap you put out. But here's 5 links for you. Take a look. You just may actually LEARN something rather REAL rather than the lies and propaganda put out by Limbaugh the junkie and Fox propaganda.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-21/politics/30183509_1_immigrants-with-criminal-records-unauthorized-immigrant-illegal-immigrants
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/immigration-deportations-under-obama-on-pace-to-far-exceed-those-under-bush-administration/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/07/26/128772646/deportations-higher-under-obama-than-bush
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/09/06/illegal-immigrant-deportations-by-the-numbers
brianb you are not very credible...you repeat the lies you hear on faux news and bimbaugh entertainment shows and expect thinking people to react the way you do to this BS...not.
mittens and his band of American haters will not win. The American People will!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
You guys know that you're wasting your time with Brian, right? He stopped listening long ago. Even when he does listen he only hears what he wants to hear. In fact reading Brian is like listening to " I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?" ad nauseum...
Hey Flip Flop....., you forgot to mention YOUR fearless leader's (Odumbo)propensity to vote "present" while a member of the Senate. Guess he was rather averse to taking a principled stand on issues that were controversial. AND IT SHOWS.
Hey starboard, with that "YOUR fearless leader" comment are you implying that Obama is NOT your president? Then GTFO of my country and my politics, because as a foreigner your opinions don't matter in this discussion. Or are you an American citizen? Then show some respect, because your grade school name-calling only makes you come across as an unpatriotic, immature jerk. I didn't like Bush but I respected the office and like it or not he was still my president.
Most, if not all senators simply vote "present" on items that come up at different times during their tenure. Unless you can somehow demonstrate that Obama markedly did so more than his peers, you've got nothing but an empty right-wing talking point, AND IT SHOWS.
Great response Mitt. Keep the focus on Obama's inability to correctly govern this nation. Expose for all to see how Obama has completely neglected the borders of this nation.
I will wait for the catcalls from the liberals... they seem to want our borders porous because of the poor underprivileged non-citizens that want to come here to take our jobs, live off the government, send their children to our already overcrowded schools and occupy our emergency rooms for free medical care.
I will wait for the catcalls from the liberals... they seem to want our borders porous because of the poor underprivileged non-citizens that want to come here to take our jobs,
No Brian, It would be big business that wants porous borders and have them take our jobs. It's called "cheap labor" And when big business hears the word cheap labor, their eyes light up and,they get a big boner!!!
Obama/Biden 2012
So your president is in cahoots with big business? If he allows the borders to be porous for the reasons you state, then the president is to blame for hobknobbing with big business... Now I see what you mean...
Every election year the GOP/Tea Bangers brings up Border Security when they are desperate for votes. This and abortion shows the republicans are very desperate again.
Inarticulate statement. Republican citizens are always concerned about our porous borders. It's the democrats that could give a rats ass about the problem.
Talk about how democrats are so against fighting illegal immigration, it wasn't 10 minutes after the ruling this afternoon that Janet Napolitano issued a directive to FBI agents in Arizona to not assist local law enforcement in any suspected immigration finding. I could hear Obama in the background going WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAAAA!
So your president is in cahoots with big business? If he allows the borders to be porous for the reasons you state, then the president is to blame for hobknobbing with big business... Now I see what you mean...
Brian - O has deported more illegals in 3 years, than W has in 8....
GT - prove it! One rule - you cannot use a liberal source. ThinkProgress is off limits.
Romney says he can fix the economy because of his business background. Well -- over the last 80 years we've had 2 businessmen in the white House. One was Herbert Hoover and the other was George W. Bush. What kind of shape was the economy in when those two left office??
The only ideas Romney has are tax cuts for the richest of the rich and more deregulation -- the same things that caused our economic crash on the first place.
Here is who wants our borders "porous".
Surprise....
http://www.uschamber.com/press/releases/2010/september/us-chamber-urges-high-court-strike-down-2007-arizona-immigration-law
GT - prove it! One rule - you cannot use a liberal source. ThinkProgress is off limits.
Brian - Check the "Bureau of Naturalizatin and Immigration"......
Brianb-999431 Per the Pew Research Center...hardly a hotbed of liberal thought...deportations are running 30% higher under Obaman then there were under Bush. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/12/28/as-deportations-rise-to-record-levels-most-latinos-oppose-obamas-policy/
Also, Snopes.org is owned by Barbara and David Mikkelson. Soros has nothing to do with it, and they've repeatedly disproved left leaning misinformation as well as that from the right.
Sad to say, that hasn't happened in the past. On that, nothing will change. But the first thing every cop i've been pulled over by (and that's more than a couple) has asked me is for identification. And i'm definitely not brown, short or speak Spanish. So that part of it is not a victory for the right.
I think we would need many more police if they were not to do some form of profiling.A pale skin and american accent doesn't mean that you are native born but they do ask if you have proof of citizenship if you have a foreign accent when speaking.
BB,
No flaming liberal here. But since I love cats, here is a "here, kitty, kitty" for ya. And a big MEOW. Just to fire you up.
QUOTE from RONALD REAGAN: Mitt Romney "TEAR DOWN THAT WALL" of Secrecy of your HIDDEN SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS, PHONY CAYMAN ISLAND OFF-SHORE ACCOUNTS where you HIDE your ILL-GOTTEN GAIN, and Your BOGUS 15% TAX-RATE when the Rest of us Working and Middle Class folk pay a Higher Rate.
MITT ROMNEY your a SHAM and a SHILL for the GOP Party. Your STONE WALLING isn't going to cut-it this time.
VOTE a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this NOVEMBER 2012. You'll be Glad you did.
During the 15 years that Romney was actively invovled in running Bain, Romney's firms were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the United States to overseas call centers and factories. Shameful and sinful.
My Republican friends, Ron Paul Supporters and undecided Independents, don't Let MITT ROMNEY DESTROY the MIDDLE-CLASS. VOTE a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket, come this NOVEMBER 2012. You'll be Gad you did!
vote democrat this fall and you'll get to cry with the rest of the losers this fall...
stay at home save your $$$ for weed...
Gov. Romney must be taking lessons from Sharron Angle on how to avoid the media.
Thanks so much for reminding me of that Angle twit. :(
Does this diminish or chances of getting a peek at what Mitt the barber has got hidden in his tax returns?
WHERE ARE THOSE TAX RETURNS? What is Willard trying to hide besides his policy details that the American people will reject, and Willard knows it.
Anne Romney "It's our turn!"
The Tax return thing will come to bite Romney in the ass; he will have to release them to the public before the election or his chances are toast.
The longer he waits the fressher it is in the minds of the American public.
So go ahead and wait please.
Where are those college records???O blame A couldn't have been elected without suppressing his record...
Too bad he has one now....
Nope, just until the debates so the whole country can hear first hand what Romney believes without the great filter of the MSM and the Obama campaign. Great strategy Mitt.
Mitt 2012!!!!!!
....ummmm. Didn't we already hear it "first hand" during the GOP debates?
Mittens didn't tell us "what he believes" during the GOP debates? Whose "beliefs" were THOSE?
We've got it all on tape. It better be the same.
Best be careful on what you wish for. The debates may be Mitt's Waterloo. Remember the primary debates, right? He kind of looked undecided on many issues and was pushed around by some lightweights. Although you may hate President Obama more than the devil himself, he is certainly not a lightweight at the game and can very well destroy this man in front of the nation. I personally welcome them.
No, it's the only strategy, if you must call it something. An untethered Mitt might have already self-destructed. You forget his bumbling in the primaries just a few short months ago, don't you? His handlers haven't, and are not about to let him go around shooting his big gob off at every opportunity. But, as the saying goes, you can run but can't hide.
I have said this before and I will continue to keep saying it until the Conservatives understand completely. Romney is a YES MAN. He will say what the "establishment" wants him to say while at the same time throwing pieces of bread at the far right just to keep them interested. As an independent, I have watched him closely, looking for ANYTHING that I can believe and yet he hasn't said ANYTHING remotely resembling policy or even a HINT of where he stands on any subject. All I've heard is it's the economy and Obama has failed as a President. NEWS FLASH, There is more to the Presidency that just the economy. If that's all he knows(or claims to know) then he as already failed as a candidate.
Conservatives take note of your so called "Savior". If you are not rich or part of the 1%, you will be gutted just like the rest of the 99%. Mitt is talking the same "I have a plan" talk that most republicans talk just to get in office only to do what they are told by the establishment. The reason they don't give specifics is because there ARE no specifics. It can be said for both Candidates, be careful who you vote for. In this case, you know what you're getting with Obama, Romney, not so much. In my opinion, I would vote for Ron Paul before Romney and I can't stomach his Rhetoric.
Mitt is about as Real as a Plastic Bananna!
Is it Mitt ____________Romney?
“Country Club”
“Middle Class Warfare”
“Not To Much..Out of Touch”
“Profits Over People”
“Corporations are People Too”
“F da Poor”
“Let Detroit go Bankrupt”
“Pray da Gay Away”
Mitt Romney’s Solution to all Problems…….Prayer and a Moment of Silence.
Don't forget "War on Women"
Hey Jstdafacts, You got it ALL right! Mitt doesn't have any ideas on policy, just vacuous comments that hold no weight. Bain was just a $$$ making mill, buy company, on the cheap, strip it down to the parts, sell those parts, make mucho dinero and shut said comp DOWN. Vicious businessman!
Folks all ya Heard from da TeaBilly’s for the past few years is:
We want our Country Back.
We Cleaned up or Rally really Nice.
Now all ya hear is:
Anybody but Obama.
It Shows ya how they have no Leadership, Direction, Solutions or Substance and have Lowered all Expectations and Standards.
You Bet Cha….Fer Sure.
Maybe someone bought them a Rand/McNally atlas and showed them the country never moved. It stayed in North America
Isn’t it Amazing, you always hear the Republicans and TeaBilly Politicians Threatening to Reduce or Stop Payment on Unemployment, Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps, Military Pay and Benefits , Etc. But have you ever heard of them Threatening to Reduce or Stop any of Their Pay, Healthcare and all the other Special Perks they receive (Paid for by our Tax $$$$$$$).
Lets break this down in simple terms. Republican TeaBilly Conservative = Self Righteous Hypocrite.
I have a suggestion - Lets all stop payment on our mortages if they reduce our safety nets.
Open an account at a credit union screw the banks out of I'm guessing about 10-12 months of payments sound right.
We'd bankrupt them before the forth month.....their cash flow would be crap after the first two.
The best part....There is nothing they could do to stop us.
The foreclosures would tie up the courts for 7-10 years!
They'd be begging us for a deal.
Yeah cause stealing stuff and breaking stuff is what we do...
let's not work for what we get and PAY for it...
Do you live in OAKLAND???
He cannot provide details becuse he has none, and if he did he would lose all voters that have an IQ above 110.
DUmbing of America continues.
The lib mentallity is that they are the smartest people in the room....too bad that if there are only libs in their room...no work would get done...
Yo Republicans and TeaBilly’s.
How about Sandusky / Snookie 2012
You BetCha….Fer Sure.
Love Sarah
Hey Dumbass, how about adding something to the conversation instead of insults.
He cannot provide details becuse he has none, and if he did he would lose all voters that have an IQ above 110.
Ed,
I don't think it would make much of a difference, since he doesn't have any voters with an IQ over 110, to lose in the first place......
Obama/Biden 2012
Don’t worry Folks, the Republicans Tea Billy Conservatives are going to Focus on the Economy and Job Issues, just as soon as they solve those really Important Social Issues like Gay Marriage, Babies, and Gawd . You Bet Cha….Fer Sure
You forgot flag burning. Huge problem in America. Flags being burnt all over the place.
You forgot flag burning. Huge problem in America. Flags being burnt all over the place.
????
GT, that was just snark by sam. You know, how the GOP/TP has been working so hard passing real important issues like naming post offices, etc. You have to consider how many days they actually work before they get a vacation. I believe it's something like 3 days a week for 2 weeks and then off a week. Ha! ;-)
Obama/Biden 2012
Dead Men Voting.
All Politicians are nothing more than Political Puppets. Every move they make is controlled by the Lobbyist, Special Interest, and the Self Righteous.
Half of all money raised by Politicians (Including Super PAC’S) should go towards the National Debt and Charity. Why don't we "Tax" the Millions of dollars that they collect for their Campaigns?
They should also pay for their own Security out of these Campaign Funds.
Sure, I wish the electorate was adult enough to let politicians lay it all out, but how many politicians are going to get elected by telling us the truth - the U.S. is overspending, has over spent, has over promised and now we must cut back spending and raise more revenue (taxes)? VOTE FOR ME! Fat chance in the U.S. where 47% don't even pay taxes - they just take.
Obama got elected by promising hope and change with no details. My guess is that Mitt's best bet is to stay the course with no details - expecially when the mainstream media has their knives sharpened to slice and dice.
POSTER: Yes, that awful "Lamestream Media" are demanding some specifics and facts. How awful of them, don't you think??? Mittens is going to carry on with this farce for as long as he can but the day will come when he's going to have to submit to an interview by a REAL journalist, not the "news actors" on Faux Noise, and then he's going to find himself in a real bind.
IF I was the Republican nominee I would be skeptical of give too much detail. Most of the media will pull things out of context, exaggerate, leave out relevant details. make false implications , distort things so I really don't blame him.
" My guess is that Mitt's best bet is to stay the course with no details -"
Too late. Did you forget the GOP debates? You do realize that those were recorded, don't you?
????? Uh, he had plenty of details. That's why we elected him. And get off of the "hope and change" wagon. That left town awhile ago. And it's much better than the "taking back America" bs you guys spew.
@Poster:
I would love to know where you are getting your info regarding 47% not paying taxes as that is sounds very far fetched:
If you work, you pay taxes(unless of course you get paid under the table). IF at the end of the year you get a return back, then you've paid more than you had too in taxes. NOW if you rephrase your comment to state that 47% don't pay taxes AFTER their deductions when they file, then it could be believable.
@Sense - 47% paid no federal income tax in 2009. It was 46.4% in 2011.
You can even print the graphs in color. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/federal-taxes-households.cfm
Common Sense 23 ... and lets not forget that at least 10,000 1%ers didn't pay any taxes either... it's not only the low income people...
Why would he give the MSM any detail when they'll just make up their own?
YAB: I think you have them confused with Faux News. You know that fine organization owned by moderate Rupert Murdoch and run by that neutral Roger Ailes, a former hatchet man for the late and not so lamented Dick Nixon. No, they don't have an axe to grind, they're "Fair & Balanced" right??? LOL
Here's a tip for you. NBC is a REAL & GENUINE news organization. It is no secret that they lean left but unlike Murdoch's joke of a "news" organization, they don't make their own "facts" up. If you and Willardo think he can go month after month without giving straight answers to the press, you've got another thing coming. I'm curious, have you ever checked out Willardo's past history in Massachussetts??? There's not a topic under the sun that this weasel has not changed positions on.
But they do edit video and make up documents to make conservatives look bad.
Sorry, NBC has NO leg to stand on. That leaves ABC, CBS and CNN for credible news sources.
I never watch FOX. So don't even start.
why not??? seriously your "allies" are entitled to know why!
I don't have cable.
That's because Romney's political stance on issues, JUST LIKE the details of what happens in his cult temple, are "sacred, not secret." It simply will not do to cast his pearls before swine.
Tolerance? Only if they're liberal.
Obama is not open about his past either. His people offered money to his pastor not to preach when Obama announced he was a candidate for president according to Rev Wright,
BAIN: You ain't kidding Citizen Bain, Willardo "The man of the people". LMFAO
How about as tolerant as his religion has been towards people with skin darker than Willardo's???
Intrepid1: Go to lds.org and look up "declaration #2". Read it then tell me they were intolerant.
CitizenBain...Okay, I'll tell you. They were intolerant. Up until 1978 "The curse of Cain" was official doctrine of the LDS church. Simply stated, people of color bore "The curse of Cain", and could not hold the position of priesthood within the church. The LDS church has a long, established history of changing position...racism, polygamy, etc., and then saying "Oh, that was just folklore, not doctrine" when mountains of evidence exist proving otherwise. Gosh...now that I think about it, that whole "changing positions and denying you ever thought otherwise" actually explains Mitt!
INTREPID 1, brian-2361724,
Romney is not running on his religion, so making an issue of it serves no purpose other than to exhibit spite and intolerance. It makes you no better than the frothing righties who still spout the "Obama's a seekrit Mooslim!" line. Be better than that.
PS: That "curse" stuff is NOT particular to LDS, either -- that's from the Bible, so ALL Christian faiths are on the hook for that one. Seems to me I'd rather have a religion that changes for the better with the times and adopts positive social developments than one that refuses to change at all. Oh, and last but not least, it was Ham, not Cain. I mean this in all sincerety with no snark intended: you should avoid touting opinions as facts, particularly on subjects in which you're not well-versed; all you end up doing is giving the other side ammunition to make you look like a fool.
Bitch, gripe, piss and moan, bitch, gripe, piss and moan....God, can you stand this endless whining? I would give anything, and I mean it, for one, just one good left hook directly into that prissy rich kid's nose. I'm 76 and I have never in my entire life seen a more pathetic whining lying phony running for office.
And I don't like being lied to like I'm some moron. And no, I'm not a Democrat. I'm registered as an independent and I'm just calling 'em like I see 'em. As a matter of fact if Chris Christie were running I'd vote for him. But Romney? Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe him.
Romney is a pathological liar. He won't tell you what he believes. He just wants to get elected at any cost. His wife is also not much better with their tax breaks for their Olympics horse.
Folks have analyzed Obama's autobiography and found most of it made up. I realize that may be partly to sell the book, but the lying during Obama care debate was far worse.
DON: Exactly where do you get your "facts" from???
Just saying "Folks have analyized his biography" does not not cut it. What folks? Lard Ass LImbaugh? Or perhaps that purveyor of the truth, Glenn Beck??? These are desperately sick people who have made careers out of spewing hatred and lies.
I read extensively, not just Fox. Read up on Obama yourself. I could write a book about his lies.
Michael - How is Romney a "pathological liar"? Those are strong words. Talk is cheap. And the shot at his wife seems like a cheap one?????
@DON9876543
"You could write a book about his lies", BUT.....what?
Are you afraid that little green men from another planet will retaliate? Or is it just that your tin foil hat is in need of a tune up??? LMAO
You right-wing NUTJOBS are SOOOO entertaining. Perhaps you should consider turning your TV off on occasion, or at least change the channel every now and then. I fear that you might be about to overdose on the Kool-Aid they are serving over at Faux News.
let's see...
I'll Close Guantanamo. I'll CSPAN healthcare debates. My father was arrested and tortured by the british because he was an activist. I'll cut the deficit in half. I didn't know what Reverend Wright was saying in church. I don't know Bill Aires.
Blah blah.....
Perhaps Mittens doesn't HAVE any "policy details."
Lower taxes for me and my rich cronies.
That IS his "policy".
Judging from the feeble attempts posted here at defending Mitt Romney, it appears he won't have much of a chance come November... thankfully...
JERRY: Do not underestimate the power of BIG MONEY that this bastard has behind him. They are going to flood the airwaves with hit jobs on Democrats like you've never seen. Romney is bought and paid for by these people who have a vested interest in him. He is nothing more than their lackey and he is there to do their bidding.
Couple that with voter suppression laws throughout the country and it's going to be a close run thing thought I still think we can prevail.
I assume that was in sarcasm because an MSNBC discussion forum is hardly a place to get a read on the pulse of the electorate. From the polls that I see, I'd call it close today with nothing to move it any direction but away from Obama. Just sayin'.
Rational, you are right. It seems to be dead even with Obama rapidly losing support at the moment, the more details that come out about Obama.
Right, the smart ones of us are voting for another recession with Romney.
All for the rich and nothing for America.
Then the rich are spending millions and millions to convince you to vote against yourself. The rich republicans can't pay a small surcharge to create jobs, but they sure do have the hundred of millions to give to republicans to lie to you.
Then you want to pretend republicans bankrupting Ameirca for more and permanent tax cuts for Romney are the smart ones.
AF - To summarize what I think is behind your post, you want to take money from some Americans and give it to other Americans. Many of us disagree with that type of Robinhoodism.
As for a recession, regardless if Romney is elected or if Obama is re-elected, the next POTUS is dealing with a very sluggish economy.
That just proves how brainwashed you are. No one is taking anything away from anyone. It's called taxation and has been a part of this country since it's inception. In recent years, the disparity between what wealthier people actually pay is shrinking. The Bush tax cuts were supposed to encourage those people to invest more in this country, which in turn would create jobs. Well guess what, that hasn't happened. These folks decided to keep the money or invest it somewhere else. They've gotten richer than ever and the middle class has taken a real bath because of it. Now, you want us to elect someone who is one of them? Who are you trying to kid? And what do you think is in it for you? You've been manipulated by people that wouldn't spit on you. You know that, don't you? And btw, the Robin Hood legend has been proven wrong. He did not steal from the rich and give to the poor. He stole from the rich and kept it for himself and his merry men. Oh, i'm sure maid Marion got a little of it too, iykwim ;-)
Rational poster, but I guess you are ok with the Ryan plan that takes from the poor to give to the rich. Nice post Tonybeeerm.
Tonybeerm - I am glad to have a rational discussion with you without namecalling or sniping.
No, it really has not.
According to the History of the Income Tax, the federal income tax was first enacted in 1862 to support the Union's Civil War effort. It was eliminated in 1872, revived in 1894, then declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court the following year. In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system.
So in reality, federal income tax has just been with us about 100 - not 200+ years!
The top 10% of tax payers pay between 60 - 70% of the federal income tax depending on which of the last ten years you look at. That seems like a lot to me. How much more do you want them to pay? Tax DOES take money from someone - money that is theirs.
Finally, you speak with such apparent certainty about how the so-called Bush tax cuts were used. Let's be rational. You and I have no way of knowing in this huge economy how or where that money flowed or the magnitude of the impact that it did or did not have. Who knows, without it, maybe we would have gone into a depression earlier and still be there. We can never know what actually happens to that money. The policy is based upon economic theory. We can disagree on whose theory we believe in.
Intrepid.
I predict it's going to be a bloodbath of hit jobs on the Democrats.
If I were president Obama I'd personally critique the ads with factual based info on everyone of them.
Then sign off each commercial with
"Is this who you want to vote for?"
Could be a very effective campaign
Obama has no plans either except claim the peanuts from taxing rich will solve things .
I would prefer a candidate not say much rather than make promises he can't deliver on as OBAMA did.
Sure DON, you do that. You go vote for Richy Rich Boy, the man of the people.
A guy who tells today's collge kids, "just go to your parents and borrow money from them to start up your own business". LOL Or how about his charming wife who said "when we were in college, Mitt was so broke, he had to sell off part of his stock portfolio!!! You can't make this stuff up folks.
Before you make judgement on Romney, read up about the folks Obama associated with in Chicago politics.
I notice many on here all concerned about Romney, but could care less about Obama's character. You may find the public perception created by his PR is not all that accurate.
I have read about Barry's past also.
"read up about the folks Obama associated with in Chicago politics."
hahah. I think you're worried about the wrong election. You already lost that one. He's already president.
Don, like the 10 things Mittens says he will do on day 1, knowing that most of it cant be done in a day? But I guess you believe him.
Perhaps Mittens is waiting for Faux News to tell him what his policy details are.
Ideology,
Thinking of you and miss you. Get feeling better. Don't make my poor sick self have to come up there and kick your a$$.
Your buddy,
phinephancy
Romney is coming across as dumb. Maybe he should just think about it as a business plan, put it out there for people to see and think about over the next few months. The more the press reports his evasiveness, the more public distrust he is going to earn.
Obama is evasive too, even though the liberal press covers for him.
No, he isn't evasive. He has put forth several ideas. Take jobs, for one. He wants to create tax breaks for businesses that hire employees as against a unilateral tax break for all businesses, some of which just hoard the money and don't put anything back into the economy. What has Romney said he will do for jobs?
He usually loads up his proposals with partisan politics to reduce any chance of them passing Congress.
And how much did Whorebama's shovel-ready jobs cost us per job and in total without producing any jobs that lasted more than a few weeks? ALL of the few jobs that were "created" by the big O in Kansas were parttime and lasted just a few weeks at the most. Once the pathetic jobs were done, the "employed" were back on unemployment, food stamps, etc.
As if repeating the republicans lies creates job.
In Europe they chose the republicans austerity plan. Are you surprised their policies have created double-dipped recessions?
President Obama pushed a stimulus and as much as the republicans like to pretend it did not do anything, America is not in a double-dipped recession like we would be if we had followed the republicans policies.
Republicans never let the truth get in the way of a good lie.
Is your goal to destroy America for tax breaks for Romney and his rich friends?
If you vote for a republican it is.
I couldn't agree more Americans First! The republican party has gone so far to the right I cannot for the life of me understand why ANYONE would vote for Willard or ANY OTHER republican. I mean think about it:
While I could go on and on citing groups of people who would be CRAZY to vote for Romney & the repubs, that really isn't necessary because the few examples I listed would encompass a vast majority of the electorate. Basically, the only demographic group that benefits from republican policies is old white guys, aka the GOP (Greedy Old People). If voters truly educated themselves before the election in November, NO republican would win an election at ANY LEVEL! Regrettably, most voters will continue to believe the republican talking points, outright lies and wacky conspiracy theories propagated by right-wing talk radio and Faux News, and many of them will vote for Romney (who hasn't said anything they disagree with because he HASN'T SAID ANYTHING). As my father used to say, they will "cut off their noses to spite their faces".
The same can be said for all Republicans. The only way left, to keep big money fanatics from buying America at the ballet box, is to refuse to vote for any and all Republicans. Republican dogma is: It does not matter what they do against the American people for the benefit of the one percent. To get elected, it only matters what they say during the election.
i get the biggest laugh @ them thinking people won't be tuned in until after labor day.... people are more than tuned in right now..... this is the INTERNET age.... running to be the LEADER of the U.S and NOT answering questions about POLICY is more than IDIOTIC.....
Beats the hell out of some Kenyan running around screaming hope and change.
Beats the hell out of some Kenyan running around screaming hope and change.
Commie - Those screaming Kenyan's are annoying little buggers. But what is your point?