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Mitt Romney, holds a baby as he greets attendees at the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials conference in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 21, 2012.
Is it possible that Mitt Romney, in his campaign for the presidency, has been too focused on the economy?
The presumptive GOP presidential nominee has focused intently on turning the election into a referendum on President Barack Obama, rarely veering from making the case that the Democratic incumbent has failed to manage the economy.
Most every issue but the economy is viewed as a distraction by Romney’s high-command in Boston; it dismisses hand-wringing over issues like Donald Trump, Democrats’ claims of a “war on women,” or the president’s recent order on young illegal immigrants as a distraction. When Romney reacts to those topics, he quickly works to reframe them in terms of jobs and the economy.
But the “economy-colored” prism through which every issue is refocused by the Romney campaign could risk votes at the margins of some key constituencies. Moreover, by leaving questions about his approach to other issues unanswered, Romney gives Democrats an opening to fill the void in describing his alternatives.
Romney supporters praise the campaign’s focus as the mark of a discipline that’s characteristic of a winning campaign.
A panel discusses President Barack Obama's and Mitt Romney's speeches this week before the NALEO conference and what they could mean for the candidates.
“When you ask voters what the most important issue is they say the economy and jobs, and you've got a president who is very vulnerable on that number one issue,” said Charlie Black, an outside adviser to the Romney campaign. “Why would you ever talk about anything else?”
Detractors, though, worry whether Romney has let some issues linger at his own expense.
“The campaign basically looks at anything that distracts from the economy as unfortunate,” said another outside Romney adviser, who requested anonymity so as to avoid offending the campaign’s leadership. “That's not a sustainable position -- you have to be prepared to discuss all issues.”
Romney still doesn't answer if he'd overturn Obama's immigration action
Conservative pundit Ramesh Ponnuru also wrote Wednesday that Romney should broaden his scope. “I think this way of thinking about the campaign is mistaken. Yes, the economy is the top concern of voters and should be the main focus of the campaign. But I think voters expect presidents to be able to deal with a wide range of issues,” Ponnuru wrote on National Review’s “The Corner” blog.
A prime example comes as Romney wrestles with responding to the Obama administration’s order last week halting deportations of illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, allowing them instead to apply for work permits.
At a speech on Thursday before elected Latino officials, Romney again sidestepped open questions about whether he would reverse the president’s order. He repeated his preference for a “long-term” plan that would “supersede” Obama’s order, and laid out several other piecemeal solutions.
But Romney declined to delve into how he would address the 12 million immigrants living in the United States unlawfully, and he didn’t describe his vision for his long-term reform.
He instead -- true to form -- reframed his pitch to Latinos in terms of the economy.
“Is the America of 11 percent Hispanic unemployment the America of our dreams? We can do better,” Romney told the NALEO conference.
Author Nicolle Wallace talks about the vetting process for Mitt Romney and who might be his best pick.
Romney’s been loath to provide specifics even for some of his more comfortable policy areas. In his interview with CBS last weekend, the former Massachusetts governor refused to specify the tax loopholes he would eliminate to finance his tax or entitlement reform plans.
Romney had avoided giving the Obama campaign any length of rope they could use to hang him, either on immigration or the budget.
“Give the president credit on immigration: It was a great trick play,” said Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole, a veteran Republican campaigner.
Cole said that Romney would be well-advised to avoid entanglements on extraneous issues, and focus instead on hammering away his message about the economy.
“The president is an extremely gifted politician with a very fine political team. Playing politics against him is probably not the way to beat him,” Cole said.
Jonathan Ernst / Getty Images
From governor's son to presidential contender, a look at the life of Republican Mitt Romney.
But Romney is facing mounting pressure from the Obama campaign, which is conscious of its opponent’s evasiveness, to specify his positions.
The Romney Team, though, maintains tight control over the candidate and the message. It tends to opt for interviews with friendly media, and Romney himself can be a portrait of discipline on the trail; he’s scarcely made any of the missteps he had in the primary that threw his campaign off-message.
But with months still until the election, any number of issues and incidents could creep into the campaign narrative. The presidency, if nothing else, is about managing the matrix of unexpected crises that cross the Resolute Desk.
“On balance, I don't have any complaints. This is a good campaign,” said the outside Romney adviser. “But there is concern about lack of agility in message.”
In many ways, Romney as a candidate hearkens back to the statuesque, pocket passers in football. He’s good at delivering a crisp economic message downfield, though Romney can sometimes struggle as a freelancer, or when the pocket is collapsing.
Not all teams favor the pocket passer in contemporary football, which has shifted in favor of scrambling quarterbacks who are adept at freelancing.
Which do Republicans prefer? Do they want Romney, a proverbial political pocket passer?
“If the other side's biggest weakness is the secondary, you might,” said Black.
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Romney is focused? Did I miss something? Did the wind stop blowing?
Romney is focused? Did I miss something? Did the wind stop blowing?
"LOL"
Oh my - did some 'reporter' really ask that question?
Let's see gang - today's jobs numbers were 'lower' than last week;s. But last weeks were revised up. In fact they always seem to get revised up.
So we know that today's numbers will also be revised up.
See how that works.
But I know, we are not in a recession.
Oh and I just got a REFI rate of 3.66% cause the economy is rocking.
You have got to be kidding me with this headline.
Somebody needs to get focused on the economy.
Obama has been about as focused as a puppy in a pet store.
Ideo.......great questions. LOL Mr. Empty Suit, Mr No Core, who knows what he thinks.
How focused has Obama been from being nothing but a complete disaster ....
Willard focused? Right.
Oh look, it's the Spanky-BCA circle-jerk; a "counselor" and an emo bitch that desperately needs one.
Hey I wonder if the next article will be:
Is the Obama campaign's ad spending deficit a sign of times to come?
Dude can't even run his campaign in a solvent manner.
But hey, at least he's consistent.
Oh and look, poor Ruken is already reduces to name calling.
Awesome.
And hey Ruken - remember you libbies are also way smarter than us conservatives too.
Yea, because your "law[l] school" gave you such a great education. It properly prepared you for a life reminiscent of BCA's.
We should all be so jealous.
The funniest part is
The suspense is killing me.
Hey Spanky, I just got a REFI rate of 3.66, as well... BUT guess what, while the feds lowered the interest rate they raised the rate of the MPI effectively killing any of my savings attained in the REFI... SOB's... I knew there was some salt in that eye candy somewhere...
we are in a depression; how the hell can anybody be ' TO FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMY ', in the words of Bill Clinton "it's the economy stupid '
Romney should just give Grover a call and ask him how he should handle these issues. Romney is just a puppet!
Obama/Biden 2012
What could Mitten's be focused on? Eveything that comes out of his mouth is a pure contradiction of his previous contradiction. How's he going to last during a debate. Any question asked, no matter how he answers will be a contradiction of previous statements. As far as the economy, he's has nothing to say other than using a broad brush to descibe it. I mean, the Repubes could run "Joe the Plummer" and get the same results.
All O needs to do is re-run old Newt and Santorum ads and wait for the debates.
Sorry Pubes, but you got a real loser here. I think your strategy of ABO has come back to bite in the ass!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 (In a Landslide)
Has Obama looked at or focused on his own unstoppable debt and deficit lately .... ??
WTF?
FR Gremlins haven't had lunch yet I see...
Good to see Willard is still blowing in the wind...
The dude is slimier then an eel!
Think the people of Greece care about illegal immigrants? Think the Spaniard's wonder about gay marriage? Think the Italians care about any contrived "War on Women"? Think Ireland's media worries much about what one of their politicians did while in high school? No, not so much they don't. You see being broke, they worry instead about having a job, putting food on their tables, and having a roof over their heads.
But gay marriage, and "War on Women" and amnesty to illegals, and 50 year old stories are what is important to liberals in the USofA these days. It has to be, because when you talk about jobs, the economy, GDP, debt/deficits and government spending, Obama fails on every item. Obama losses if Americans, just like their friends in Europe, are worried about their jobs, putting food on their table, and a having a roof over their heads.
At least someone is focused on what is important instead of wasting time giving work permits and with them American jobs away to a bunch of illegals. Maybe is Obama paid more attention to the needs of the legal American worker he would not be despised by so many people as a worthless, out of touch president.
You know Ireland's problems were caused by the same economics Romney supports, right?
JoAnnaSmith1
Think the people of Greece care about illegal immigrants? Think the Spaniard's wonder about gay marriage? Think the Italians care about any contrived "War on Women"? Think Ireland's media worries much about what one of their politicians did while in high school?
So that's where you've been the last few days JAS ... doin' some hooves on the ground research. That was a short stay ... got booted from Euroland?
Being focused on the economy worked for Clinton in 92, and I suspect it can work for Romney in 2012.
LOL Romney focused on the economy? Seems to me is very good at pointing the finger of blame only. Where is his economic plan? Oh wait, it must be on that etch-a-sketch, and he erases it everyday so he can change his mind on it. Romney focused on the economy.. What A Joke.
Soon to be seen headlines at First Read:
"Is Obama really that incompetent?"
"What exactly is Eric Holder hiding?"
"What laws will Obama decide not to enforce this week?"
"Is the private sector really doing as well as Obama says it is?
"So the Obama administrations leaking of classified information is okay while providing subpoenaed documents to Congress is not okay?
"Where did Ruken learn to make such good coffee at the office?"
At leat somebodys focussed on the economy...Obamas been focussed on nothing but creating a complete mess
ok, so is being "too" focused on the economy a bad thing?? What a stupid headline.
"How low will JoAnnaSmith1's bosoms sag?"
Willard The Suit is focused on NOTHING except becoming president. He was in the same Harvard Bus School class as Dubya--if we didn't learn our lesson from that circle-jerk, we deserve all the really stupid sh!t Romney and his merry band of wingnuts are offering.
Well perhaps SOMEONE should be focused on the economy. I suspect we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today if Obama hadn't focused on everything BUT the economy for the last 4 years!
"Is Romney too focused on the economy?"
Well somebody should be! Because our current Communist president isn't. He could have done something about the economy in his first 3 years in office instead of shoving his government healthcare program down our throats which most Americans didn't want. Or running guns down to Mexico in his Fast and Furious debacle. Obama is obtuse, oblivious and totally clueless.
Well the Democrats aren't that worried! I do not want my kids working for minimum wage as a result of the last 3 1/2 years of not being worried about the economy. I want a better future for my kids. I do not want them to go to college and graduate to find out that no one seemed concerned over the economy and they have to work for minimum wage to pay off their loans.
Romney is no dummy he knows the Republicans control the economy and with congress in his corner holding the purse string this is where he can stick it to Obama, the only problem is most people understand who has control over our economy and has decided to use the American citizens as pawns in this disaster, come election day people will either pick one or the other, a Man who thinks FIRING someone is fun, or someone that is not afraid to go against the grain no matter what if he believes it's right for the people. Obama has my vote I liked Romney until he said he enjoyed firing someone, that turned me off as I'm sure many others were also. There should never be joy to hurt a person in that manor.
What else can he talk about, Obama getting us out of the wars the Republican's started? The fact that he killed Bin Laden who Bush couldn't find in 8 years? The Bush Tax Cut for the Wealthy? Even talking about the recovery is dicey since it was the Republicans that got us into this mess and the obstructionist Republican Congress that has tried to block Obama's efforts to help the country recover even to the point of trying to force us into default.
Sure he is....too focused for the comfort of the economically clueless Obama and his miserable economic record. "Too focused, indeed". I mean, it wasn't a Republican who coined the famous "It's the economy , stupid"!
Nice try, Mr libby "journalist".
Funny- either people complain that Pres Obama isn't doing enough (when it's congress fighting and stalling that keeps things from getting done), or they complain that he's overstepping when he circumvents congress.
JoAnnaSmith1
Are you from Europe? Do you know all the social issues that are facing those nations in the EU? Do you know those nations are also concerned about the impact of immigration on their own economies? Mmm.. Seems to me you know nothing about Europe, if you did, you would realize those nations are facing the SAME issues we are in this country and its not just on the economy.
Hmm... Yes, Gay Marriage.. The GOP feels so threatened by it that they had to pass DOMA. The GOP feels threatend by allowing WOMEN to choose what happens to their own bodies, that year after year they have to introduce more abortion bills.. including ones that restrict WOMEN from getting assitance in the military if they are raped. Yeah, that GOP.
Please list out exactly what Congress has done in the last 4 years to stop deficit spending. Oh wait, that's right.. NOTHING.... but that's all Obama's fault isn't it. LOL.
Whiners and Complainers..... crack me up.
The wind that you feel is Obama blowing smoke up your...well you know where.
JoAnnaSmith1: (Comment 1.18)
I can't believe you're that stupid. All the Republicans are focused on has nothing to do with the economy. All they've done in the past 18 months is try destroy women's rights (and help the Religious Right Nuts to gain more control of the country), keep the CEO's and the filthy rich wealthy, not give a damn about the middle class and poor people's economic situation (unemployment), help big corporations pollute the environment, and so on. If Obama fails, it's because the Republican-controlled Congress has refused to work with him. They've come up with NO solutions. They want things to remain the same and think that's an improvement.
And OH, YES! How exactly does Romney plan to "fix" the economy???? Do what GWB did--sink it further???
Well we have had 3.5 years of Obama forgetting their was an economy, so having a president make that his priority is long overdue. But then again Obama has said the private sector is going fine, so maybe it is the rest of us that don't get it. It is time for the Obama White House party to come to an end, after all he has spent all the money plus another 5 trillion or so, and this country has nothing to show for it. But hey it is our fault, we screwed up, we trusted Obama.
I'm glad somebody understands that this whole election focuses around those four simple words: "It's the economy, stupid!"
Barry has been focused on everything BUT the economy and totally focused on keeping his biggest contributors happy. Do you notice how many Democrats that are facing tough election battles to keep their seats are begging him to come help them? LOL, LOL, LOL
Romney/? in 2012
Oh my goodness, you republicans are nuts! It's really quite humurous how misinformed and idiotic you are. So we have eight years of complete and utter mismanagement and failure when Republicans were in charge, because remember our economy was doing fine under the last democrat. Those eight years culminated into the deepest recession in our history, almost rivaling the great depression. Then you give the guy 3 1/2 years, and then you turn around and say, "You've failed us!!! You haven't turned things completely around!!". You say this, despite 28 months of straight job creation, and over 4 million jobs created. I've never been the president, but I can tell you turning around the largest economy in the world is easier said than done. Then here comes along your rag-tag leader, Mitt Romney. He campaigns on 1.) Making Jobs, and 2.) Controlling the debt, when the fact is, when he was the executive of his state, his state had an above average unemployment rate in booming times, and the HIGHEST Debt per capita IN THE COUNTRY. Yet you think he is somehow going to bring this country back to prosperity through the exact same policies that culminated into the worst recession this country has seen since the Great Depression. Like I said, you people are idiots.
The Terry family," Carney said after ABC's Jake Tapper reminded him of the name.
Wow -- look at what we have running this country! What a friggin disgrace.
But rest assured the name Trayvon rolls right off their tongues!
Romeny is focused on it, that's all you need to know. The rest is secret.
Sam2468 you must be listening to only part of Romney's quote about firing people. Here's what he said: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me," Romney said at a Monday breakfast in New Hampshire, when talking about health care. "You know, if someone doesn't give me a good service that I need, I want to say, 'I'm going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.'"
He wasn't talking about firing an employee, he was talking about someone who gives him poor service. If he gets poor service he fires them by taking his business elsewhere, wouldn't you? Why would you make a decision about a partial quote?
Obama can't run on his record, it's a complete disaster. Even his stimulus was nothing more than a payoff to bail out wall street's biggest firms, or a payment to states to shore up the unions. Saving GM was all about saving the unions, if saving the unions mean't saving GM, then it had to be done.
He rammed a severely flawed healthcare bill in the most underhanded way possible, then gave every crony a waiver. Hell, he let the big pharma write the damn thing.
Since he can't possibly run on his record, he must TRY to destroy Mitt, and he's even failing at that.
Fisting Redhead in Rosele..boy, it sure was a coincidence that you and blowbag Beverely and Seeking Insanity went silent yesterday over the contempt issue. Tell us again how Holder has Issa in a corner and how Issa will need to backdown. Your groups analysis is about as good as Hussein's in trying to add jobs to the economy...non-existent. You could have at least blamed it on Bush chubby.
Diamond60:
I think we have our hypocrite of the year everyone. Are you seriously complaining about misusing a partial quote. As if Republicans have never done that.
My post is restored? Did I miss something? Did I cause someone to fart?
Ruken, you're suspended for a month for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. You know the rules.
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JoAnnaSmith1, Jean321, genius12, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
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Bob-1136191, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Second suspension this month.
Be passionate. Not personal.
Really?...Really? We're going to criticize Romney for being too focused on the economy?? In the midst of the worst economic downturn since the great depression it is a negative for a potential US leader to be focused on the economy?
tip toe thru the tulips ... ruken ... this is a NBC thread, not FR
Yeah Tyler. Feisty's moniker is "Dumb Fux" is that not offensive?
What about the poster with the donkey doing "unspeakable things" to that elephant?
Romney too focused on the economy?...............that's is funny, he has no plan other than supporting the Ryan Plan and his statement "corprations are people." So what have we learned from Romney? He wants to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and replace the Post Office all with his rich friends corporations so they can make a bigger profit after they raise prices on everything and give worse service or none. Ryan plan gives Romney ove $700,000 tax break while you get a 20% hike and pay the taxes the rich would have been paying but won't. Cuts to food stamps and programs for the midlle class while paying for the 1% tax breaks. Why does he not have a plan for jobs? Because he is a job killer and his past work shows it. Repubs need to be investigated for tryingf to kill the economy so they can regain the whitehouse.
So lets start with the first day of President Obama's term when 14-15 repub politicians secretly met and pledged to vote against every bill to take the economy down all to make President Obama a one term president. Pledging to vote against all bills that would help the economy by saying they needed to act like the Taliban, to act like the insurgents do. This is the same plan that Bin Laden wrote to use as his master plan to take the country down and destroy our nation. Ryan, Cantor, DeMint, Gingrich to name a few. Gingrich is quoted as saying that meeting was sowing the seeds of the 2012 election. Ref: Richard Draper new book.
So repubs, you need to go after traitors who use the same plan Bin Laden did!
Going after Holder because the voter suppresion laws are illegal and he is not letting voters lose their voting rights......this is what the fake investigation is all about. Nothing more...nothing less.
If Romney is focused on the economy, I would like one question answered:
How will starting ANOTHER war, with Iran this time, help our economy? How will paying for ANOTHER war, on top of the tax cuts he wants to give, help the economy? Given that China and Russia back Iran, and a war would easily lead to China calling in our debt, how will that help the economy?
Ok... technically that is more than one question. But the central theme is how Romney's plan for a war with Iran will be beneficial, in any way, to our economy? Has everyone lost their mind and forgotten what happened the last time we started a war and gave tax cuts at the same time?
... is not a ToxicChemist offensive to future generations?
mguy-478
If Romney is focused on the economy, I would like one question answered:
How will starting ANOTHER war, with Iran this time, help our economy?
Republicans consider war to be shovel ready jobs.
Romeny does not know his ass from a hole in the ground.
I have Romney's answer to any question that the President asks him, and I quote. Any thing you can do I can do better,I can do anything better than you . No you can't .Yes I can. No you can't. Yes I Can . Sung along with Bob Hope, and Bing Crosby!
When you see the video from Romney's earlier campaigns, and see that he repeats the same old sh!t, no, there's no way you can vote for this empty suit.
Ideology, say what you want about me, but I will have left the world a better place (through my work) for those unfortunate people stricken with serious diseases such as Epilepsy, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's & Cancer. For what will you have been remembered when you are gone? Being a friend of Feisty Red Head?
TruePatriot, Same for Obama...., do you honestly think they are going to write a new stump speach for every town they visit???
Toxic, I view Feisty's avatar as political satire and satire is meant to skewer self-righteousness.
Thanx for the good work you are doing, however, I will refrain from tooting my own horn.
If Romney start another war? He would need to become the President, and I just don't see that happening now or in the near future, but if he did some how pull it off sure he will create jobs starting another war only problem is you would have to be one of his buddies that make Weapons or Ammunition's. But looking at the enjoyment he feels when he fires people he should have a lot of enjoyment with that big government he can fire thousands every day for quite some time, he'll really get a kick out of that one. And as far as the economy have anyone heard anything from him other than how he thinks Obama screwed it all up, I'd really like to hear his plan if he even has one.
Feisty wasn't first. WTF, she must of got tired of hitting the refresh button and took a 5 min cofee break.
^BAHAHAHA
Romney will do more than just fock us on the economy. America's fate is sealed thanks to Obama and Bush.
This whole arguement Romney this, Obama that, is obsurd and it goes on and on. The whole irony of this is you people are argueing about two candidates that more similar than different.Neither one will be good for the country, yet you still argue.What a waste of time. Oh and by the way, When a candidate is to vague or evasive, or we will wait and see. That means that they don't have clue of what they would do. The result can't be good.
MSNBC has gone full retard...Everyone knows that you never go full retard...
Gee, this is a difficult election. A candidate "too focused on the economy" vs. one too focused on destroying our Constitution, our economy and our nation. Which one should I vote for? Hmm.... really tough decision. Heck, even for conservatives who aren't all that thrilled with Romney it's a no brainer. Do you take a chance with Romney, who has shown signs of understand the concerns of the people or do you vote for the one you know will continue to destroy the Constitution, the economy and our nation. Again, another really tough decision.
Romeny is not part of the solution...he IS THE PROBLEM! Corporations have bought and sold most of this Country off to foreign Investors. Deregulation for over 40 years = no accountability on the part of Corporations to make our Country go bankrupt and sell off our "toxic assets" to European Banks who now hate their greed. You all seem to think that the Obama Presidency is at fault for "not creating jobs" for anyone. Whose responsibility is it to pass a "Jobs Bill?" Last I checked it was "CONGRESS" and the "SENATE." Most of you really need to go back and study hard. Apparently you only know what is "trending" in the moment. You think our economy can be resolved overnight? Do ANY of you know how long it took this Country to recover from "THE DEPRESSION" of the 1930's following the Midwestern Dustbowl from introducing cattle to an under watered land mass? Man Made Disaster followed by Wall Street Greed Mongering...Can't fix STUPID can ya?
Uh oh, better be careful what you say, Tyler's on the prowl.
This headline is exhibit 875,655 of MSNBC's pathetic attempt to unduly influence the election.
Too focused? Nearly every economic indicator shows that the Obama administration, and the Reid/Pelosi economy is a worldwide disaster. Their complete failure of leadership, their vapid ideas, and their partisan attacks show them to be utterly incompetent.
So no, Romney is not too focused on the economy.
The AIPAC Congress want us to focus on Romney, Obama and Paul. Not them and their fake economy, elitist agenda.
Whitefeather, have you given up on blaming Bush? Romney isn't going to be our President until after the election, and you are already blaming Romney for Obama's incompetence. WOW! How unique!
"But Romney is facing mounting pressure from the Obama campaign, which is conscious of its opponent’s evasiveness, to specify his positions."
Coming from the Obama campaign, that's COMICAL. I seem to remember that he NEVER gave any specifics when he ran in 2008 - in fact, he still doesn't - all we get from him are vague generalities and platitudes.
Cases in point - Instead of telling the Democratic Congress what he wanted in Obamacare, he had Nancy Pelosi write the bill - so he could disclaim any part that didn't work. I guess that's 'leading from behind'
And when he was 'negotiating' with the Republicans for an increase in the debt ceiling, it was always 'everythings on the table', but when he was asked to make some specific proposals, it was always 'tell me what you want to cut, and I'll let you know' - after I talk to Reid and Pelosi.
And everyone recognizes that 'entitlements' are the biggest problem with future budget deficits, but if you look at Obama's 2012 and 2013 Budget projections through 2021, there is not a single hint of how he would address this problem - all he shows is a huge problem getting much worse - and the National Debt increasing to over $26 Trillion within 8 years.
For Obama to demand specifics when he can't give them himself is hypocritical.
He is focused on keeping the trickle down scam going for the 1%.
Where was the outrage over amnesty for illegal immigrants when the right's messiah Reagan did it? So it is okay if your party does something, and when the other one does the same thing, then it is outrageous? Maybe you should look up the word, hypocrisy and Bullsh!t, because you are knee deep in it. And as a citizen who owns no allegiance to either party, I was offended then, just as much as today. But I also know that deep down the Republican party doesn't mind it, because it was their policies that allowed all the "Cheap Labor" into our borders to save millions for all those "Job Creators".
I agree both candidates are wrong for this country. But one thing for sure is Romney does not need to say anything more. He should just sit back and let Obama keep doing what he's doing...alienating Americans.
To bad people couldnt pull theyre heads out and see that Ron Paul is the best choice. Romney and Obama wont chase the debt like Paul,or keep us out of wars.Romney is better than Obama.
Awesome - I have not laughed that hard in this forum in quite some time. Thanks!
pmsnbc... Great bunch, eh?
Economy... what economy?
When elites are held in check, typically by effective legal mechanisms, everyone else in society does much better and sustained economic growth becomes possible. But powerful people - kings, barons, industrialists, bankers - work long and hard to relax the constraints on their actions. And when they succeed, the effects are not just redistribution toward themselves but also an undermining of economic growth and often a tearing at the fabric of society.
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It'll just take a minute!
Cuz that worked so well for Sarah Palin.
whitefeather: It's nice to throw around all the corporations are evil stuff, but have you ever thought of where you'd be if they didn't exist? No internet, no computers, no posting silly things on MSNBC, no air conditioning, no refrigerators, no food without hunting and farming, well... you get the point, the list goes on and on and..... Anyway, I'm glad you raised the Great Depression issue. You might want to dig a littler further into that. The only reason it lasted so long was precisely because Roosevelt and the dems in Congress kept passing all those "stimulus" bills. Government became so bloated doing make-work jobs that there wasn't any money left for producing real jobs that create wealth. No one is realistically complaining that Obama isn't creating jobs. What they are complaining about is that he is doing everything he can to create an environment that discourages companies from hiring people. All you have to do is listen to him to understand that. So far, I don't think there is one segment of the private sector that he hasn't criticized and put roadblocks in front of them creating jobs. Taxing people to give the money to hire more public employees that don't create wealth isn't creating jobs. You have to have a vibrant private sector before anything in the economy will move forward. Nobody can make you buy a car, or anything else (well...except for health insurance). Only the government has the authority to make you do something you don't want to do.
Unfortunately, the President and the dems in Congress are clueless about how the economy works. And, they are willfully ignorant at that because it doesn't make any difference to them. All they want is the power over the individuals. And, they have to ignore the Constitution to do that.
Do you really think the US became the wealthiest nation on earth because of the government? Well, maybe you do.
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Where was the outrage over amnesty for illegal immigrants when the right's messiah Reagan did it? So it is okay if your party does something, and when the other one does the same thing, then it is outrageous? Maybe you should look up the word, hypocrisy and Bullsh!t, because you are knee deep in it. And as a citizen who owns no allegiance to either party, I was offended then, just as much as today. But I also know that deep down the Republican party doesn't mind it, because it was their policies that allowed all the "Cheap Labor" into our borders to save millions for all those "Job Creators".
did you just bring that up? First of all I was too young, and second and more importantly your party was supposed to help fix the border. Agreed Reps didn't do such a good job either, but your party is nthe biggest offender because they didn't do to what they agreed to do, and secondly when Reps tried to do something, your party tried to do and succeeded at legal manuevering to get it repealed. (See anything the dept of injustice has done to Arizona the last two years. )
If you are really passionate on this subject, you should be screaming at your party for the dirty tricks they use so we can never fix that problem. (And this double speak your God in the white house uses "Ive deported more illegal aliens than anyone.." no you haven't!!)
Oh by the way, I work for one of The unemployment centers.. just to break it to you, job creation by your God aint going up.. in fact it's going down, they just don't count the people who don't have benefits anymore and have no jobs.. but what do i know, I only take claims all day long...
Romney has a long term plan alright...and that plan is not to have a plan, and to not talk about his plan of not having a plan, because every plan that Romney planned, was not the plan, that he previously had planned. The plans he did have were also the plans he did not have before he said they are his plans. The plans he didn't have were the plans he said he had when he needed to have plans because he had no plans.
Prresident Obama/Biden 2012....you can plan on that!
Our state government here in AZ needs an enema. It was taken over by Gov. (CryptKeepersMother) Brewer, a certifiable nutcase. She wasn't elected.
what is funny is this story, lets side track the prez, nancy and the crew lying bold face to Americans, literally holding the smoking gun of a border patrol officers death.......while giving amnesty, anything for a f'n vote. hang' em high.......every single one, starting with holter......theres your ENEMA Sane central
To quote the author of this article:
And I say that you might want to add on to that with, “The Proverbial Political Flip-Flopper”.
The Romney is as unfocused as can be and will always be as such. He has not even picked a VEEP yet. Not even a true contender for that matter . He has nothing because hes afraid like the rest of the goper's. Afraid of this fearful of that scared of this terrified of that. Most of them are afraid that YOUR not as fearful as they are. That is why they are prone to conspiracy theories and lies. Because they are to afraid of the truth in this world on any subject.
It is far more prudent for them to feel safe in a made up conspiracy theory they can hate to acknowledge the fear they have of anything and everything. ; ]
Cant even pick a VEEP yet, but hes got idea?? Hmm Indeed.
Cheers
Romney has no idea what he s even talking about. In his appeal to the latino crowd yesterday he compared the recovery we have had to the Reagan recovery??/ Well the reagan recovery was not what we got in the last 3.5 years. reagan got cooperatio from the Democrats and the left of center republicans that still existed back then and was fueled by the stabilizing oil price run up. Obama faced all the leftovers from a republican fiasco and hidden debt because the wars junior started were not in any budget he submitted. Romney does not tell anyone what his main item is and that is an across the board 15% tax decrease on top of the present decrese that should expire if the democrats stay in control fot the top 1% which amounts to 146,000$ for every million earned. His tax decrese for the middle class making say 100,000 is 2500 dollars. The Bush tax cuts were supposed to create jobs and they did not. Right now jobs are around 7% in the private sector but because we were stupid enough to elect governors like the Wisconsin idiot who are firing government employees as fast as they cna the national average is still over 8%. A manufactured number to say the least. He also does not mention the fact that our economy is the best at recovering in the world today. His plan is trickle down failed economic smoe and mirrors. The economy of the State with his imput was 47Th in job creation and that huge tax cut for the wealthy will stall any debt reduction. All just more Republican garbage for the less informed. Ask yourself this when was the last time a Republican administration ever had an economic expansion? You are dreaming if you think the nut cases in the house who have done notheing since regaining the house but manufacture a crisis after crisis when we needed cooperation. A vote for any republican in this next election is a waste.
It's actually nice to see someone focused on the economy...I guess the real question should be why isn't Obama focused on the economy? Oh, yeah, his record is horrible and he has no idea....out of ideas, out of touch, out of time. How can someone be too focused on the number one problem (as defined by the people) facint this nation?
Is that possible given the terrible state of the economy? LOL! I'm sure the President and MSNBC would love for him to take his focus off of the economy. Keep wishing losers.
ItsAboutTime-3704531
Romney playing the blame game??? OMG, I passed coffee thru my nose laughing at that one.... good one... that gave us all a laugh... The Blamer-in-Chief is as useless as teats on a boar... we have a "who's Obama going to blame next" pool here at work.....
I seriously have to wonder... after driving the economy into the ground and spending three and a half years fighting any form of legislation that would help tow the economy back up the cliff they drove it over, what makes anyone actually believe the republican party plans on doing anything to repair the damage they have done to the economy other than spew more garbage in their bid to win the support they need to do all the things they have been threatening america with over the past three years? Are women ready to vote away their rights? Are latinos ready for legalized profiling? Are the hard working americans ready to lose all their worker protection laws and submit to lower wages and a higher tax bracket while giving the upper class even more tax breaks? Are we ready to do what we did for Iraq and give trillions of more dollars away to other countries and defense corporations we use to attack and destroy and then rebuild for another 10 plus years? I hear the republicans that helped destroy the american dream constantly scream about a deficit they themselves helped create when they started the wars that led to the deficit and I hear them scream about the tax dollars we gave to american corporations in order to prevent their collapse but I have yet to hear them whine about the trillions of dollars they gave away to other nations with no repay caption period and most of it hidden from the tax payers until after the new administration found the costs hidden from the tax payers. Are americans ready to give up their childrens rights to public education? I think there is a great many things the republicans have threatened the average american with over the past three years that need to be brought to term with the republican party before the next election because if the voters don't hold them accountable and they vote blind for these party of no rights for the average american republicans, they will be well into the next generation undoing the havoc these extremist plan for us if they are given the opportunity.
any way we look at the overall picture for AMERICA, we are in a world of hurt. our enemies know it, we know it. our economy is collapsing, our unemployment is rising and cannot be fixed. our president is giving this country away and doesn't care. thinks he's doing a terrific job as POTUS, but he's blind, very ignorant and unsympathetic towards the people. his administration is transparent just like him. the health care is also broken, the POTUS has a inner circle of friends who he listen's to instead of his supporting governmental staff.
if we the people of the united states of America can survive until November this year we can vote him out and put Romney in. Mitt Romney has a vision of what is needed for this country, his platform is stable and steadfast. we need to stand behind him, support him as he cleans up the mess BANANA left. sure, the clean up will take some time, but Mitt Romney is up to the challenge. we need to give him a chance and know that Mitt Romney's administration may cause us to adjust alittle, but when he's done, we will be better off for it.
JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA, SAY YES TO ROMNEY IN NOVEMBER!
For anyone complaining that Obama hasn't focused enough on the economy, many of the President's initial bills were focused on stimulating the economy, many of the GOP's actions have been focused on stymying the economy. Why would anyone vote for a political party that puts their own best interests ahead of the voters?
As far as Rmoney goes, there is a big difference between campaigning and governing. It's easier to try and control the message when you're on the campaign trail, to answer only the questions you want, to speak with only the people you want, but once you are elected you no long have that luxury. You have to actually take care of the problems at hand, all of them, and not just cherry pick the ones you want or outsource that responsibility to someone else.
Why doesn't the media focus more on third party candidates instead of wasting time on politicians hand picked by corporate sponsors ?
It would be nice illumination if that were to happen. The problem being that they do not campaign nor politicize their beliefs other than to say which party they agree/disagree with. In most cases people believe themselves to be Independants based entirely on their swing votes and not so much that they actually have their own political viewpoints or remedies that are any differant than that of which is being offered up by the democrats or republicans.
The Bush Administration was a failed administration, that is fact.
Now the Pukes want to blame Obama because he what, has not been able to resurrect the economy with an obstructionist House led by John, Crybaby, Boner?
Obama submitted The American Jobs Act to Congress in October of 2011. It passed the Senate and has not been brought up for vote by Boner. Please explain that one Pukes!
Romney is indeed focused on the economy because that's what the people are focused on. Obama, on the other hand, wants to focus on anything but the economy.
Rod Father-
Well, lets take a look at this...First this economy that Obama supposedly inherited was produced by Republicans? If we look at spending in the US, the highest spending came in the last two years of
Bush's term. This portion were the years that Congress had control over both houses, and wrote all of the spending bills. Also I would be curious if you can tell me one spending bill that Obama did not vote for during his term as Senator...I will help you with this one, the answer is ZERO.
As for resurrecting the economy, Reagan had added 10 million new jobs by this point, and increased GDP overall for the country, so I think Obama's 4 million speak for itself. As for the state of the economy, it was a much worse situation that Reagan had to deal with!
Obama's economy has been dragged down by the loss of public sector jobs. Otherwise he would have cut close to 1 % point off of the unemployment percentage. The reason for the drag is obstructionism by Boner and Turtleneck McConnell. McConnell should do America a favor and phucking retire, the old fart.
Better that Romney is focused on the economy.
Obama is focused on his golf game, and hiding evidence in F&F
Obama said it, and he's a lying dirtbag:
“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”.
-Barak Hussein Obama
“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”
-Barak Hussein Obama
Failed POTUS
If your solutions for the economy suck, then yes, you CAN focus too much on the economy. That's Romney's problem. Solutions that focus solely on tax consequences miss the mark altogether. Incentives are meaningless without demand. People see their states, their counties, and their cities making big cuts and it kills any consumer confidence that might have been generated.
So what is killing consumer confidence?
Europe
House shenanigans (debt ceiling, U.S. credit rating, women's health, etc,)
3 1/2 years of 24/7 all media false negativity brought to us by the GOP.
Romney's threat of austerity and cuts to Medicare and Social Security.
The loss of 30+% net worth of the lower 90% of Americans while watching the top 10% actually gain net worth through this recession.
Paul Ryan's budget.
All this crap instills no confidence in the future.
The only focus RMoney* has is to "say" that Obama has failed. He has yet to say anything to anyone on how he would revive the economy if elected POTUS. That is not focusing in on the economy, or anything for that matter, he is just pandering to the masses!
*Typo is intentional :-)
President Obama put a $4T deficit reduction deal on the table, including a mix of spending cuts and tax increases on the wealthiest Americans, and Republicans walked away.
As a result of inaction, the US Military is facing mandatory spending cuts and the Republicans are trying to weasel their way out of those, too.
Republicans are incapable of compromise unless it means they get everything they want.
If Republicans put as much effort into Governing for the Middle Class as they do protecting the interests of the Wealthiest 1%, then I'd be more than willing to vote Republican.
Why waste your vote on helping other people get richer at your expense?
Unfortunately, it is obvious to anyone with 1/2 a brain that if you are not in the upper echelon of society, then the Republicans have nothing to offer to you except more government restrictions on personal choices.
Obama/Biden 2012
@ Toastee, Did you just call me a Republican? I have kicked people's @sses for less. My voting record has very, very few "R"'s in it. I vote on substance from candidates, like I said, I am not a member of either party. I've voted for Ross Perot, Clinton, Kerry, and Obama. I think Obama sucks, he has yet too prove too me he isn't actually a Republican in sheeps clothing. Still in wars overseas, still losing freedoms in the name of security, still sucking bankers wankers AND still won't hold anyone accountable in his administration. On the same token, Republicans are still raping the planet, like in my area with mountain top removal for coal. But I did vote for Phil Roe a Republican, because I thought he was best suited for the job. (Plus in Tennessee, a Democrat doesn't have a chance in hell of winning anything. They would vote against Jesus Christ if he claimed to be a Demo). I'm sick of the bullsh!t from both sides, and I will call out B/S when I see and smell it, and both sides wear it like cologne.
It's the big issue certainly, but the economy's not the only issue. Even so, Romney hasn't given specifics of how he'd fix his signature issue anyway. It seems if you're going to focus on the economy, you should have an agenda that would give voters something to consider.
So now the economy isn't so important because Romney's focused on it .... "LOL"
You'll see it soon enough Urs. Romney knows Obama is clueless and will steal any proposal he puts out like he stole Rubio's immigration plan.
Someone should stay focused on the economy, Obama's administration will not touch it with a two-foot stilleto.. As that old Republican, James Carville said "Its the economy, Stupid!"
He's focused on it all right - just not giving us any particulars! But I understand a lot of conservatives are religious, so perhaps it's their faith that keeps them positive:
Because that's Romney's economic agenda to the penny!
Romney's got plenty of "Shovel Ready" jobs just waiting to boost the economy!!
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bigbenalaska
LOL what focus? You mean pointing the finger of blame. He has no economic plan. If he does, why don't you show me what is his plan will be. How is he going to get congress to cut the deficit. Yeah, Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution tell us "who spends the $".
MSNBC is just attempting to help Obama change the narritive away from the economy with this article.
Yes the economy is the #1, 2 and 3 issues in Americans minds. It is not EVERY issue, but the most important by FAR.
This is just trying to help divert attention to other things like Obama's "evolution" on gay marriage, which was no change at all, and his disregarding the laws he swore to uphold in immigration.
Desperate times call for desperate measures indeed.... And it is only June. Just wait to see the 3 ring circus in October.
Romney had better be involved with the economy because the idiot in the white house sure as hell isn't. He is too busy covering up the information that he knew about the weapons sent to Mexico that killed two DEA agents.
He just keeps spending money, and jobs still are not forth coming. Gas is dropping a little now, but by August or Sept. it will start to rise again. And the debt just gets deeper and deeper.
The economy is important, the most important issue at this time. However, it is not the only issue that concerns most americans. Romney doesnt want to talk about anything else but the economy and then he really doesnt talk about that but to say its Obama's fault and he would be better. Personally I would like to know how he would be better. I guess we can wait and see, after these billionaires buy him the white house. I guess we can see how great he is when he has to deal with democrats that I am sure are ready to become the party of "no" on the day he takes his oath. Personally I wont vote for someone that refuses to tell me what he plans to do to fix things. And giving more welfare to billionaires wont get my vote either.
Ursula, that was funny!!!!! Excellent "religious" summarization of Mitt's campaign!
There are 30 bills that have been passed by Congress sitting at Harry Reid's door, to which he refuses to bring up for debate in the Senate OR up for a straight up and down vote!!!! The Dems control 2/3 of Government, the ball is in their court....The President is supposed to put forth a buget, but in over three years the Dems have not passed a budget......since 2009!!!! If I have not balanced my checkbook since 2009, I would be out on the street, my credit card would be maxed out, and I'd be one of the 48% of people on the dole in this country...anything Obama puts forth gets voted down 100 to a big fat ZERO, because his budgets are so laughable with DEBT....his own party votes them down and NEVER offer up solutions, only criticizing Paul Ryan and lying about pushing Grandma off a Cliff.....
I really want to vote for Romney, but so far he gives NOTHING at all.
I'll vow to work with Congress, to create a long term benefits that will help each and every legal American. See, I can do it too.
What is his plan? How is he going to do it? How long will it takes? What will he do that will be better than Obama? NOTHING, nada, zero mention of anything.
So far, if Romney hasn't done anything then his policies are matching Obama's right to the dotting of the eye and the crossing of the t's.
This article is what the public should have expected from MSNBC - the official boot licking media beholden to and controlled by Obama.
If you were Obama, wouldn't you be attempting to direct the public's eyes to somewhere else, other than the economy?
Is that what you believed when Clinton focused on nothing but the economy when he ran against Bush Sr?
Go to Mitt Romney.com ...his policies are all there. Very well laid out.
@ DonW-1210834
And Faux news is unbiased?
Again, what makes Romney better than Obama except continue tax cut for the rich, which failed misery under Bush.
You people say Romney will be better than Obama, but he shows nothing, do nothing. How is he better? That's a valid question and I have yet to see anyone answer that.
I know that jobs is#1 and that when we tax payers are working we pay the taxes,but I still don't understand how we I repeat We are indebted to Asia.I would rather buy American made,but it is hard to find objects that are made here,never the less,when I buy goods that are made abroad I buy off an American co. and even if it is owned by a foreign country I still pay for it,so how can I be indebted to a foreign country? I pay all of my taxes on time to local,state and federal ,and have no debt,so how on earth can I owe anything to another country? The only foreign countries to which I vacation.and that's rarely,is Europe. I have never signed a commitment to a foreign power. So I repeat , indebted,how.
Well, blackknight2, Can you get your lips off Romneys' butt long enough to read this. You should really watch that show on Sunday Morning w/ George S. You would learn that Romney wants to cut property taxes that the wealthy pay That is 1 Trill annually. That is money that goes to the Govt.and he wants income tax cuts for the rich. My guess being the one that they enjoy from GWB that ends jan 2013 will continue. He hasn't answered as to where the funds were going to be transfered from to make up the 1 trill difference.
When people on his team are saying answers to questions that he should be answering himself. Yeh I have a problem. I don't think that anybody that was a 1 term governor, got voted out the 2nd round to be worth a crap. He screwed up Mass. and raised their state sales tax. if you can't run a state where does anybody includung Romney think he run the United States Government.
To me the Econmy is a simple and not so simple thing. It's Cause and Effect. Like it or not we are in the World Economy. If you work making a product item some sold, here some sold China and Japan, Lots sold in Europe. Something happens to the economy in Europe and sales drop to less than a trickle. You now have enough product to take care of her and far east for 2 years you must let workers go. After a while Europe seams to have fixed it's problem and jobs make a slow come back. In this World Market now if you are working today you must pay attention to whats going on else where to see if you are going to be working next month.
Before I go Romney never created 1 job in Mass. but he did cost jobs. we are still in a recession and will be til 2014. This recession statred in2007 and they run an average of 7 years til they end.
In 2003 Romney increased fees on gas by two cents a gallon to pay for environmental clean ups of leaking underground gas station fuel tanks. The fee increased the clean-up tax on drivers by 400% and hit consumers directly at the pump. The fund, which was originally only half-a-cent, was created in 1992 to aid gas station owners with clean-ups.
Two weeks after raising that tax, Romney eliminated the fund for gas station clean-ups entirely but kept the two cent increase. The money raised by Romney's tax increase now goes directly into Commonwealth's coffers for legislators to spend as they please.
The result of Romney's decision was about $60 million more every year in tax revenue and a huge backlog in clean-ups. Of all the money collected by Romney's tax increase, only $13 million annually reportedly goes to clean up gas leaks.
Harley Chic, I've been to mittromney.com and there are bullet points there but nothing that you could say is an actual plan.
There is one more BIG item that none of you Obama haters realize, because you are just so hateful. Vote for a repuklican and see where you'll be at in the next 4 years. I know if Willard does become president, we will see a democrat in the White House again. I venture to say that this is purely a racial thing and you people will regret it, and you deserve everything you get, mark my words. Now back to the big issue...how many of you have done research on the Mormon faith? That is where the danger is coming from. Romney will not make a decission without asking his living prophet, that is what their religion is based on. Or maybe I should call it what it really is....their cult. Take the time and read and see how much Romey cares about this country. His priority are 1) church 2) church 3 church.......499) family 500) country. You think I am kidding? DO the research about Mormons.
Romney the millionaire master planner needed to make a decision a few years back. Drive the family from point A to point B. He has to get the dog there also..........MUTI MILLIONAIRE mind you. So his plan, ...Put the dog house on top of the car and drive for hrs with the dog in the dog house, while dog is scared and craps all over the car.....This is the decision of a man who is a multimillionaire........inhumane......and no clue. If you had a million...wouldn't you take the dog in a second car? Or how about transport the dog through a proper dog kennel company?
You want the Mittster who can't transfer a dog from point A to B...to have his finger on the button that could blow up the world?............NOT ME!!!
Harley Chic: It's funny you mention the 43% of people "on the dole." I recently read an article in that stated "35,000 wealthy households paid NO 2009 taxes." In fact, it stated, ""the percentage of U.S. taxpayers reporting adjusted gross income exceeding $200,000 who paid NO U.S. income taxes increased in 2009 to 0.53% from 0.51%, meaning that one in 189 high earners avoided taxation, an Internal Revenue Service study found."
So, 43% of the people who didn't pay taxes because they were too poor, didn't have jobs, or were retired and living on a fixed budget vs. 35,000 wealthy households that COULD afford to pay but didn't.....amazing! You need to get your priorities straight.
As for the deficit that someone mentioned earlier....our deficit would be a whole lot better if a bunch of Republicans hadn't gone against their oath of office and signed a pledge not to raise taxes. If our president could raise taxes just a pittance on ALL of us, including the most wealthy, our deficit would be a whole lot better! However, the Republicans decided to listen to Grover Norquist rather than do the right thing! They should all be tried for treason....that's not what they agreed to when they took the oath of office......
What most people don't understand is that it is costing us MORE taxpayer money to lay off people, both public and private! We pay a fortune in unemployment taxes, welfare, food stamps, and other assistance programs to people who have been laid off their jobs and can't find other jobs.
I took a look at Romney site and what do I get?
Nothing specific, mostly about get rid of unions, drill more, less regulation for corporation.
Where did I read all this? Oh, that's right, China. How is it work out in China? Dirt pay, major environmental impact and cheap labor.
If anything, his plans would turn the US into 3rd world countries.
Romney's economic plan is nothing more than a bunch of worthless bullets without anything behind them. Those who support ROMNEY also forget that Congress is the one who really controls the purse strings. You think Romney is going to get Congress to go along with everything he wants? If so, good luck with that.
Yeah Didi, many of those were working in the Obama administration......or are prominant democrats:
Tim Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury), Kathleen Sebelius (HHS Secretary), Tom Dashle (HHS Secretary nominee), Ron Kirk (US Trade Rep), Hilda Solis (Labor Secretary)....not to mention Max Baucus (Senate Finance comittee chair), Nancy Killefer (CIA Chief performance officer)....or....Charley Rangel and John Kerry....just to name a few.
Yes, Didi, why is it that you site a rise in rich tax cheats during the Obama presidency....shouldn't he have done something about it when his party had the majority in Washington?
ToxicChemist
Can we also 'do something' about the GOP that cheats on their taxes? I didn't realize that Obama was responsible to ensure every single democrat never cheated on their taxes. Get real, he is president, not a baby sitter
cuong "If anything, his plans would turn the US into 3rd world countries"
That is exactly what Romney plans to do with the country. Then he can sell off all the us's assets and take social security funds and end the program. Then the jobs that he did create will be only minimum wage or a little higher certainly not livable wages. All of the good paying jobs will outsourced as they are doing now.
Boy those Republican Pranksters are sure at it tonight. Their a real hoot aren't they.
I wonder if they will ever like us again those silly Republicans.
Hows that Tyler
and those trillions of dollars spent.....what plan was that? What did it fix?? And Romney Has no plan? If having no plan, is better than shooting yourself in the head....I'll stick with no plan, thank you.
So far nothing liberals have posted would want me to vote for Obama. Obama has collected a long list of negatives so far and is fast and furiously accumulating more.
VOTE ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT STOP OBAMAS ECONOMIC INSANITY
Ursla, instead of looking like someone who is uninformed and spouting talking points, try googling Romney's 56 Point Plan...all the details you need will be found there...whoever fed you that information about not detailing his plan to fix the economy did so knowing that you have no desire to think for yourself.
Obama's only got three pitiful things he knows how to do.... blame somebody else, stir up class envy BS, and play the race card.... All three of which the American public (minus the Progressive koolaid drinkers) have seen through like Saran wrap. His economic policy is tax, tax, tax, and spend uncontrollably, even if he has to borrow $.40 on the dollar to do it. And it's evident by now that he's learning disabled, or he'd see like everyone else, that his policies have made things worse.... It's going to be refreshing to hear Romney say, "I take accountability for this economy and this executive branch's actions RIGHT NOW", right after he's sworn in. Something the Affirmative Action guy has yet to do.
Sure "bouttime", If I have to pay taxes, everybody else should. Rich (GOP & DEM) AND poor. Everybody should have some "skin in the game."
Well, He should have vetted his administrative appointments sufficiently to at least see that they aren't tax cheats. I say this because ANY leader is responsible for those they lead. If for example, one of my reports f's up, I can't say to MY boss that "they did it, not me." You know what he will say? It is my responsibility for EVERYTHING that happens in my department regardless of who did what.
Gentlemen, start your engines!
http://www.dropshots.com/OldCrow2#date/2012-06-22/18:57:17
Thank god we are keeping the new Gallup daily quiet.
Are you by chance related to Bigbenalaska? He likes to include Rasmussen in all of his posts, but the conventional wisdom is that you look at the average of several polls to get a good picture. Otherwise, you'd have a lot of liberals out here shouting about Bloomberg. A polling average defrays those outliers.
Here it is for you ....
But I know how much it bothers you that Romney is beating Obama in the polls for weeks now ....
Thursday, June 21, 2012
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns 43%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and another five percent (5%) are undecided ....
"LOL"
Go to Real Clear Politics it takes the major polls and averages them.
That is a very good site for the poll averages. Also, Nate Silver at 538 is very good.
Ah Ben...true to form as always!
As you are .... "LOL"
Try to cheer up some ....
I think we need to see this race as neck in neck. Now, Romney, grab yourself an intelligent and obvious Hispanic VP, come up with a reasonable and effective plan for integrating young Hispanics who have lived their entire life in the USA other than "massive amnesty", and move forward with a plan for economic growth which needs to include minimizing billions of $$$$ a year in aid to countries that hate us.
Obama has never been an executive of anything. He had NO experience when he ran for President. None. Nada. Zero. He has 1/2 term as Senator and before that he only got elected by David Axelrod making public the divorce records of his oponents....David Axelrod is going to have to do better than that with Romney, who has a clean past and never a divorce.....Obama was nothing but an agitator before he became Senator, and he didn't become Senator because of his experience. He only got to where he is by others clearing the way for him....and the stupid people buying into a marketing scheme last time around.
If producing the WORST overall economic results of ANY newly elected president in the past 60 years proves that Obama is a BAD president, then consider it proved. And, if anyone expects different results from simply doing more of the same things (a weak, unstable dollar, more “stimulus,” more regulations), they should look up Einstein’s definition of “insanity.”
Obama = Epic Fail!
Newest Gallop Pollshows that 68% of all Americans blame bush for the economy and not President Obama. THAT'S 68 % ........OF ALL AMERICANS Even 50% of all REPUBLICANS blame Bush for the economy and not President OBAMA.......Harley Chicster....just doing the usual negative name calling spin.
REPEAT 68% of all Americans Blame BUSH for the economy! Gallop June 14 2012
President Obama/Biden 2012
Harley Chic: And you think a one-term Governor that took his state into a depression is a better choice? My God, where is your brain?
Harley Chic
What exactly are Romney's qualifications for President. Can you spell those out for me.
He was a successful businessman in the private sector. He did a swell job with the Olympics when put to the task, and in 2008 before the economic crash hit the entire country, Massachusetts was in pretty good shape according to CNN.......
.....And what was Obama's qualifications????
Oh yes....Voted Present 129 times as the senator from Illinois, Friend of Bill Ayers (Weather Underground), and went to a church for 20 yrs that taught Black Liberation Theology. Has various communist associates, and knows nothing about economics.
Massachusetts: Best 'New Economy' state - Nov. 18, 2008
money.cnn.com/2008/11/.../state_economy_index.smb/?...20081118...
ToxicChemist
If you consider a successful business man, one that buys an already successful company with no debt, saddles it with debt then, fires all the workers, files bankruptcy, and the American Taxpayer pays for it a success.... then we are certainly not on the same page. Try "Bain"
If you consider romneycare supported us tax dollars to pay for abortions and health care for illegal immigrants a success, when he opposed obama care that does virtually the same thing (minus abortions and health care for illegals) a success, then we are not on the same page.
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/230609-mass-gov-patrick-romney-record-on-jobs-was-not-good-enough
more on romney's record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlnaYOv0DZY
Why didn't Romney run for relection:
http://www.redstate.com/brookhaven/2012/02/14/why-didnt-mitt-romney-run-for-reelection-as-governor/
Do I need to continue?
Romney lost to McCain who lost to President Obama with the same message Romney spins now. Like the repub said when his party nomintated Romney this year, ....Everybody should like Romney, he's been on both side of every issue!
Well I guess it sucks that I am not one of the 68% sheep starsailing. This Idiot has spent trillions of dollars to fix something and made it worse... and yet you will sit by, endorsing it, while turning a blind eye to the fact this article is drawing attention away from a scene played out in "clear and present danger". way to go sheep boy.........BAAAaa BAAAAaa!. I have no use for you, or Nancy or Harry, or any other POS you claim allegiance to, you are worthless.
Jim,
Made it worse? Do you know anything about which you speak? The economy is in MUCH better shape than it was on January 19th, 2009. Check your facts before you spout off ignorance. Sheesh.
So, you want to reference what Deval Patrick says in defence of his friend Obama? Patrick is an awful governor. You do realize that Massachusetts is a heavily Liberal leaning state? I work in Mass, I know Romney and I know Patrick. I also am aware of why they tried the healthcare plan. Because the Liberal electorate and the Liberal state legislators wanted it. Romney realized that he had to be able to work with the democratic legislators on Beacon Hill to be an effective governor. Same for his predicessors, Weld, Cellucci and Swift. You gotta love the Mass dynamic. They elect liberal legislators who love to spend money like there's no tomorrow and then they elect a conservative governor to keep the legislators in check...until Deval, of course. Now, how is Mass doing financially??????
I will be supporting Romney dispite his support for statewide healthcare...I realize I will not find a candidate that I will agree with 100% of the time.
Feisty Redhead Rose11e, IL banned, gimmick impersonation account.
"The President is an extremely gifted politician" Seriously? Too funny, if anything he should be called an amateur.
He's a great politician, but a lousy leader.
Obama can't fool the masses again ....
Adios , Obamos ....
He is a Charismatic speaker, other than that I don't think he's good at anything.
There's that good looking girl ....
Always a vote for you Srich ....
Thanks Ben how are you today? The tracking polls are looking good ; )
After 100 rounds in 3.5 years, he MAY be good at golf.......
;-)
I feel the need to correct the above statement. He is a charismatic reader. lol
Obama is all talk! I bet Michelle is as tired of his failure to perform as we are.
bigbenalaska:
WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!! Did you just seriously say that? Obama can't fool the masses. Yet, I'm willing to bet that you are going to take your ignorant, oblivious, plain old stupid a$$ and vote for Romney. I mean he's not even trying to fool the masses. He has basically said, "I'm going to give massive tax breaks to rich people, and gut social security and medicare, which are relied on most by poor people, and elderly people. Yet, you say Obama is trying to fool the masses. Wow. You're ignorance is completely beyond me.
genius12
Applause from Texas. Romney is all "TALK" and nothing more than a whiner and complainer. His economic plan is the best kept secret since the ABomB.
Hope and Change arriving "momentarily!" Oh Snap!
Well, it's like this. IF Romney becomes president you will be cheering. That won't last long and you ALL will be right here really letting off some steam! No, I'm not going to stoop to the pointless statements and idiotic adjetives that you like to use. I GUARENTEE you this. I will be LOL at you all complaining and saying I didn't vote for Romney.
That especially goes for you Harley Chic
6dogs you have a point- If Romney is a terrible president you bet I'll want him to go too- we are allowed to have expectations and standards.
Srich: Yes, but he'll go after taking this country down and doing away with all the small increases we've made to date.....but, apparently, you don't think about that. Sure, let's give him 4 years to doom this country....why not? Come on....
I don't see it that way.......no, you come on.
Well, the good news is that we'll never really know what Romney would do as president, mostly because he'll never be president. The media likes to portray this as a close election because that makes for better ratings, however, in reality, it's far from close. President Obama has a MASSIVE lead on the electoral map that is insurmountable.
The Electoral College is the sole means by which we elect presidents, and if we go by current polling in the individual states, the electoral totals look something like this;
In the "Solid R, Likely R and Leans R" categories we have the following states; ID-4, UT-6, AZ-11, AK-3, MT-3, WY-3, ND-3, SD-3, NE-5, KS-6, OK-7, TX-38, MO-10, AR-6, LA-8, IN-11, KY-8, TN-11, MS-6, AL-9, GA-16, WV-5 & SC-9 =191 electoral votes
In the "Solid D, Likely D and Leans D" categories are; HI-4, WA-12, OR-7, CA-55, NV-6, CO-9, NM-5, MN-10, IA-6, IL-20, MI-16, ME-4, NH-4, RI-4, VT-3, MA-11, NY-29, CT-7, NJ-14, DE-3, PA-20, MD-10 & DC-3 = 262 electoral votes
That leaves 85 votes still up for grabs (VA-13, OH-18, FL-29, WI-10 & NC-15.) Romney must win 79 of the remaining 85, Obama needs 8. Most pollsters are on the verge of putting Virginia in the "Leans D" category since every poll, except the biased Evangelical "Christian" Roanoke College (who predicted McCain would win VA by 8% in 2008, actual result: Obama won by 7%), shows Obama winning the Commonwealth by a percentage outside of the margin for error.
So that brings Obama's total to 275 electoral votes, and thus earns him a second term.
It's awesome that Romney can win Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin and North Carolina and still lose the election having earned only 263 electoral votes. That's still very generous to Romney because President Obama is well ahead in both Wisconsin and Ohio. Florida looks to be going for Romney. North Carolina is still tied as well, so it really could be either man's state.
It's all right there, folks, you can't argue with the math. Mitt Romney has no viable path to 270, the best he can do is close, but no cigar. He'll do a lot better than McCain did, but that's not saying much.
Well Didi, $6 Trillion in new debt isn't such a small increase.... it's quite the nut. But when we stop those Liberal payoffs and let our industry thrive without crushing taxes and regulation, the economic picture will surely improve. And Oblamo will be writing another "fact challenged" autobiography.
Fed up /I am a Liberal. I would like you to answer my post2-19 and tell me what pay offs you are talking about? As far as letting industry thrive without crushing taxes and regulations,you are 180 degrees off. It is because of the lack of regulations that we are in our present condition. Even some of the banking and real estate companies are now conceding that they probably needed tighter oversight. Many of the Labour unions have been pleading with Government to do something about the excessive outsourcing of jobs,to no avail. This President has advocated bribing Co. executives to be a bit more patriotic and discontinue this disastrous practice, but with no results. My personal opinion is that the treasonous ba---- should never be bribed ,but punished.The cost of living has continued to rise,ensuring that the working people can't afford to purchase enough to move this economy forward and your choice as our future leader can only come up with a plan that he will do better. Good luck!
Gee, when his political strategy is to post a bulleted 59-pointless economic plan and nothing else, then yes, he has certainly missed the boat. Their are other issues a President should consider, like oh, I don't know, foreign policy (hint Romney, nuking non-existent enemies like the USSR isn't a very good policy). How about social policy on things like immigration. Notice his website is eerily silent on women's rights, LGBT rights, why not even a peep on his stance on abortion. For all we know, he plans to criminalize condom use and fall back on the aspirin-between-the-knees technique.
Yep - like foreign policy.
Like our policy of giving guns to Mexican cartels so thousands of Mexicans and Americans can be killed.
It seems the Mexican government is none to please with that little policy.
Hey Spanky -
You want to get in on foreign policy huh? You mean like alienating every country outside of the US by starting a war based on lies (4000+ dead vs. one border agent)? I'm not downplaying the agent's death and my heart goes out to the family but get real!
Obama has done more in half his term to repair what The Boy Blunder did to our allies!
Thank Bush for getting the ball rolling against the terrorist that Obama wants credit for now .... "LOL"
The real foreign policy of Obama is his policy on the economy. He has no clue
I suppose that's why Anti-American sentiment across the world is at an all-time high.
RJ17
Source? LOL. Anti American sentiment is at is highest only in the middle east. Why? Because Obama's administration continued the Bush Administration Policies and TOOK OBL out. The world approval rate is HIGHER on Obama than on Bush. "try google" and post your sources to say otherwise.
Everyone is very afraid that Obama will win. Afraid for their jobs, afraid for their houses, afraid for their children. Obama has no chance.
Fear is the greatest motivator and Obama has created a nation of it.
^ what she said ; )
You must be talking about "Operation Wide Receiver" under the Bush administration, where over 600 guns were 'walked' into Mexico. You are right, Mexico officials aren't too happy about that.
Ummm no, everyone is afraid of what will happen if ROMNEY wins.
Studies show that when certain stimuli are presented to republican/conservatives brains, the part of the brain that reacts is the part of the brain presenting fear.....While same stimuli presented to brains of Demacratic/liberal brains, the part of brain that reacts is the part that presents logic and reasoning.
So reubs like Harley chickster.........preach...fear........oooohhhhhh booga boooga.......making repub brains go off fearing...............Danger Will Robinson......... like Pavlov ringinging the dinner saliva bell.
Conservaterds are afraid of Obama's economic policy "Srich and Harleychic"? It is the same policy of Bush!!! Nothing has changed. We are still using trickle down set up during Reagan's debacle and made worse by Bush's tax cuts. So actually you are afraid of Republican economic policy!!!.
MR said nothing about nuking the USSR. He actually is correct that we need to be concerned about Russia. They have provided arms to the Syrian government which are used to prevent its citizens from obtaining freedom. They have sold the technology to Iran to help them go nuclear. They have opposed a missile shield in Eastern Europe that would protect against Iranian missiles carrying said nukes.
BHO wants to decrease the number of nukes that we have to 300 which would put us at parity with Pakistan. MR is right about not giving in to the Russians on every issue.
It is about the economy and the consistent abuse of Constitutional law by both sides of the aisle.
Everyone is gonna play to their strengths, and it's obvious that an updated world view in matters of sex, guns, drugs, immigration, etc will be shared by both parties...once the current batch of old people die, and the new batch of old people, the Baby Boomers, are who they have to pander to; the only question is whether we'll be able to keep the social programs going when the demographics are even worse than they are currently.
Well, the private sector is doing fine you know.
Turns out when Obama said that he was talking about his old friend who joined the Army. His name is Sector and he is a Private and he now has a job................so in fact Private Sector is doing fine.
I am the private sector and our company has been thriving for the last year (and we're based in Michigan!)
Maybe if MITT had his way and let 3-5 million people lose their auto-based jobs we'd be better off, right?
So your the WHOLE private sector by yourself..........I guess it's a good job if you can get it.
Funny how many have no clue what a managed bankruptcy is .... "LOL"
Funny.... American Corporations have returned to their pre-recession profit margins, but yet their are no jobs. The GOP sold us on a tax cut for american corporations and said it would produce jobs... hmmmm...
Yep, gotta love it.
Obama/Biden 2012.
"So your the WHOLE private sector by yourself..........I guess it's a good job if you can get it"
Haven't you heard? Lemonade stands are rocking in Michigan
Funny the tax rates for corporations hasn't been cut but Obama wants to lower them. So what are you talking about ItsAboutTime?
Thanks...............going to invest in lemons.
Obama wanted to cut the taxes for corporations, but it also required 'closing' tax loopholes... the GOP said "No". Which means, the GOP doesn't want corporations to pay their fair share of anything.
February 23, 2012
President Obama's plan to overhaul the nation's corporate tax system would sharply cut the taxes that U.S. companies pay. But it would also eliminate many of the loopholes that help them pare down what they owe.
http://www.npr.org/2012/02/23/147276846/obamas-corporate-tax-cut-plan-faces-uphill-battle
Itsabouttime - Correct, no matter who turns the economy around it will be a slow process. Obama's going in the right direction. Romney wants to go back to Bush tactics and we all know where that went. Right down the sh!tter.
Can any Republican please tell us what Romney would do for the economy?? He has said nothing of value or anything that makes economic sense so far. Every economist out there says none of it adds up. Besides doing what Bush did for the economy, and by that I mean giving tax breaks to the Rich (that did not create jobs/they saved their money) before starting two unfunded wars: What will Romney actually do?
Anyone?
Disney's Goofy could be more fiscally responsible than Obama ....
Hillary says "Stop drinking the Obama Kool-Aid!"
bigben up there in Alaska who receives more federal dollars than what the state puts into the coffers? That makes you a welfare state!
I asked for an idea of what Romney would do but what do we expect from the Party of NO Ideas? Nothing!
All I can say is at least McCain and Nailin' Palin weren't elected. You think things are bad now?! Psht, if they'd been elected this country wouldn't even exist now!
Well it has been clearly unfortunate now that Obama got elected .... "LOL"
You will notice that you have received no real answer, except that they want Pres. Obama out.
Most of america doesn't care what Romney will do if he gets in office.
Ahhh the sound of crickets..... when it comes time for whiners and complainers to tell us what Romney's plan is.... nothing............
Read the following it applys to you also.
All laid out??? Yeah keep telling yourself that. Bullets do not equal a plan.
bigbenalaska - time for bed, kindergarten comes early.
he'll just undo what obam has done and walla 75% improvement.
He would lower the corporate tax rate to 25%; which, would allow more money to be spent on expansion and jobs. Do not forget that corporations do not pay taxes, only those who use their goods and services pay the embedded taxes,
He will expand domestic energy production which will help create jobs. This job creation will help lower the deficit and will help expand the economy. A move to energy independence by 2022 will help us eliminate much if not all of the trade deficit in 10 years.
This wonderful Buffet plan BHO had would have lowered the deficit by a whopping $6 billion per year. The plan to fund hiring of 600,000 public sector employees through grants will cost over $26 billion and when the program ends the local/state governments will lay them off again. These are jobs that the feds are not responsible for.
His "saving Detroit" had only slightly different outcome than going through Chapter 11. The debt would have still been restructured; however, the bondholders (mostly IRA's, 401K's and pension funds) would have retained about 80% of their equity. The vendors would have received about 80% of the monies owed and renegotiated their contracts. The 100,000 laid off at dealerships that closed due to Obama saying they must sacrifice out fairness (according to GM's CEO these closures didn't save a $#&% dime) would still be working.
You see some things that Romney would so differently would make a difference. I can discuss his plan to decrease growth in government spending to eventually balance the budget as revenues grow. This will satisfy the rating agencies without damaging the economy.
Considering President Obama has not been focused on the economy, and considers "the private sector is doing fine" someone needs to be focused on the economy.
If Romney gets elected and does no better than President Obama in 4 years, I will vote him out too.
Romney\whoever 2012
That's correct wolfpack- I will happily vote against any ineffective moron elected president, left or right.
So is an effective moron (someone who is good at being a moron) better than an ineffective moron..........that's an interesting question you got me thinking Srich.
Fair enough, but I think you get my point ; )
I think your point if right on. I gave it a check.
I think your point if right on. I gave it a check.
The "Private Sector" is doing just fine. Corporate profits are at or near record highs. The "Private Sector" just isn't employing new people.
Is Romney too concerned over the economy? Well, it would be nice if Obama thought about helping the economy vs shoving is political agenda on us all.
Romney is so concerned about the economy that he has gone into detail on what steps he will take to improve it.
Oh wait.
Everyone knows that Obama couldn't fiscally manage a wiener and potato chip cart ....
Similar to know everyone knows that you couldn't post anything remotely intellectual if your life depended on it.
Big Ben comes from the same area as Putin...uh uh uh uh I mean Palin; they're a different breed of unintellectual up there.
Does Obama's almost $16 trillion dollar debt look small to you .... ??
It looks pretty big from here .... "LOL"
Obama didn't solely accrue $16T in debt. Like others have stated before, you're just a moron.
Obama's so concerned about the economy that he's made his party deliver some kind of budget every year since he's been in office.
Oh wait....
Well, at least he's so focused on the economy that he's willing to have his party work with the various economic plans and budgets that the Republicans have put forth, certainly not saying "We've got no plan, but we don't like yours."
Oh wait....
Obama has been so bad in the leadership column that I'm not sure he could lead a dog to fresh bone.
What is Romney plan then? I ask a simple question, stop dodging it.
You guys don't know either except tax cut for the rich.
Man your lazy wanting someone else to do your work.......go to Romney's website it is all laid out you can check out by Tax, Spending, Regulation, Energy, Labor, Human Capital and Trade. Way to much to put in here.
@ gtouch
And you are really gullible to believe on that. You want to see how it works out, look no further than China.
Most of his points just dangle around with no specific focus. I can type much better plans than he did. I am not even sure that those are his points.
Again, if he has such great plan, why not talk about it? Again, how is he better than Obama?
If you want, I can point out several websites that shows much better plan than his.
bigbenalaska
That's because everything looks bigger when you can see Russia from your front porch. Umm.. 11 trillion of the debt came before Obama. Funny how whiners and complainers forget about that. What is Romney's plan to pay off the deficit? Hmmmm.... oh wait.. there isn't one.
The latest ive heard is Obama is going to have the chinese pay off our debt and save the country.Now what do they get in return?
Romney is so much better than Obama,come election time people well vote with theyre wallets.Anyone that has a pulse would vote for anyone but Obama.
gtouch:
Read the Romney theory on the economy. Cut taxes for the millionaires raise taxes for the working class, decrease regulations, union busting, cut spending. Private sector good, public sector bad.
Looks very similar if not exactly like the same supply side economic voodoo Pubs have been practising for 32 years.
A vote for Romney will be just another vote for GW's third term.
Repubs will return jobs from oversees only when American wages < Foreign wages + the cost of additional freight charges.
You're going to trust the guy who has been on every side of every issue and his campaign is being funded by arguably Chinese money to the tune of 100 million. (see Sheldon Adelson and his Chinese casino's.)
Why would anyone vote for anyone whose main objective is to transfer the tax burden from the millionaires to the working class Starve the government of funds until it is ineffective then step back and say look the government can't do anything right.
Romney focused too much on the economy? He's not focused on the economy at all. He runs away from every question about his plans for the economy because of his miserable record as Governor of MA. He has no details except for the draconian measures of the Ryan budget which will in all likelihood stop the recovery we've had for the past 3 years. He's tied himself to the radical right and must continually cater to their social and moral grievances on a daily bases.
His stump speech is devoid of any plans and consists of only a few buzz words like great, freedom, strong, patriotic, guns, God, flag.
He run to the left of Kennedy in MA. He ran to the right of every Republican candidate during the primaries. Now he wants to etch-a-sketch his way out of everything he previously said. His one and only core principle is that he is entitled to the presidency and why not? His whole life has been one of privilege and entitlement.
So true, Crazy. Romney is that way on ALL subjects. Imagine this conversation on the topic of health care and it well encapsulates his approach;
Media: You say you'd repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. What you put in place as a replacement?
Romney: Effective solutions that would improve health care while reducing costs.
M: What solutions?
R: Good ones that would make the system better.
M: Do you have specifics?
R: Specifically I'd unleash the power of the market to improve health care.
M: But how? How would you improve it?
R: By putting in place effective solutions that would improve the system while reducing costs.
If Disney's Goofy was running against Obama ....
Goofy would win ....
I mean Disney's Goofy would win .... "LOL"
no worries.. the jobs president said this summer, not the previous ones... is the summer of recovery.
shovels ready?
Yes, shovel jobs (i.e., another war) are the GOP's way of attempting to fix the economy.
Jason - Did you see Romenys latest fundraiser at the podium.. he has a 'teleprompter'
Gee if he has a teleprompter I wonder if questions have to be submitted prior to being asked or if his panties get in a bunch if you ask without being acknowledged, especially if it's a subject you can't blame on Bush or give a legitimate answer to?
Economy is not that big of deal, if I start losing my rights which is basically what conservatives are trying to do.
Well that puts you in a small minority.
Funny! im not sure but there must be some kind of brain washing thing happening,like when germans voted for Hitler. The list of bad choices and thinking is almost limitless with Obama.When you cant do your job you get replaced.
Sooner or later the GOP will come to the realization that the Tea Baggers have NO CLUE how to fix the economy and neither does MITT. Cut taxes, cut regulation and the jobs will just explode in the USA. Ain't going to happen guys. To grow jobs, you have to put money in people's pockets so they spend (the GOP cannot explain why companies have Trillions of dollars in cash but will not spend it other than "too many unknows... trust me... if they saw a way to make a profit they would spend the money"). When you have a middle class who makes less money now than they did when Ronnie came in... you can see where it all went!
there's no need to.
Obama has a plan... Greece
And the plans Romney supports (since he has none of his own) .... Ireland.
How's that Obama and Socialism definition going?
The U.S. is clearly developed into a semi-socialistic country. Welfare, Social Security, Public Education, government controls over personal property and personal behavior are all examples of socialism by our government already.
The list of America's tendency towards socialism is easy to see:
1) universal health care (obama)
2) income redistribution (obama)
3) strict controls of business (obama)
4) increase in gov't controlled entities called GSE (yes, the same ones that brought us down in 08)
5) highest level of citizens on welfare and food stamps. (why would you work if you don't have to) (obama)
6) increased tax burden on very few. (50% of the populace in the US pays 0 taxes) (obama)
Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money. Marget Thatcher
Details Jason, you need to back up your points and elaborate on how they were instituted first and foremost by the Obama administration and not previous ones.
Try again.
rukooie,
no i don't, any tool can make some simple deductions... well... almost any tool
Yet it's up to the person making the assertions to provide detail. You're extensive education surely taught you that.
Kevin- I will not be voting for Obama and I hardly associate myself with the GOP or the Tea Party. But I always tend to assume when a person begins to use terms like "teabagger" Rupublitard" "Libtard" or other childish name calling I tend to think one- they are out of facts, and two, they have limited vocabulary skills. Try to sound intelligent if you have a case to make.
Ruken = (lunchroom moniter lady) LMAO!!
Oh my!! The government has a part in my life!!! Oh the humanity!!!
Did you ever realize that universal healthcare can include private health plans??? And Obamacare isn't even socialist. The individual mandate was an idea conceived by conservatives in the early 90s as an alternative to the more government-centered healthcare plan offered by Bill Clinton. As recent as 2007, the individual mandate was seen as a practical compromise between progressives who wanted government healthcare and conservatives who opposed government intervention, with the inclusion of a public option. Because Obamacare lacks that public option, technically it is a centrist solution to healthcare, even after factoring the additional beneficiaries under expanded Medicaid programs. Even Switzerland, the famed European nation for being a bulwark against "European socialism," has an individual mandate. Last time I checked, I don't see any any Republicans calling Switzerland a "socialist bastion," have you???
Oh please; there has been income redistribution in this country for much of its history. During the Gilded Age robber barons made millions off of the works of underpaid laborers, among them children and poor immigrants. If you became disabled or too old, you were doomed to be a pauper if not endowed with sufficient money. After the progressive tax came into play, the rich pay more in taxes to fund benefits for everyone. Not to mention how the past 30 years have been one great Christmas holiday for the 1%, as they gained more income and wealth from the middle and lower classes thanks to supply-side economics. I think its time that the rich stop controlling so much of this country and that they pay their fair share.
You do realize that our recession was caused in part by the lack of regulations on the banking industry??? It is natural for the government to add regulations every few years or so, to keep the supposedly "free and fair market" in check from becoming too powerful. Last time I checked, Obama was dictating food prices, is he??? Or the price on a new Ford or Chrysler car???
Where is thy proof??? And btw, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not take us down. They had a minority of the subprime mortgages that led to the housing crash; it was the private banks and brokers that brought us down (hard to believe for you free market purists, but true nonetheless).
You do realize that that is NATURAL after a recession, right??? Add that to the severity and causes of this recession and the lack of jobs bills passed because of the gridlock in Congress (thank you Tea Party bastards), and this was inevitable. Then again, welfare and food stamps keep families afloat and help the economy; would you like to see those people flooding your streets, begging for spare change??? Stop denigrating these people; they simply fell down on their luck. You want them to be "independent" and "self-serving???" Then tell them to beg for money and deny any unemployment checks if you get fired.
Actually, the vast majority of Americans pay taxes. According to the Tax Policy center, only 0.9% of Americans making more than $20,000 don't pay taxes. Of the alleged 47% who don't pay income taxes (not any taxes), only 18.1% of all taxable units don't pay federal taxes. And of those 18.1%, 10.3% are seniors, 6.9% are people who make under $20,000, and 0.9% are non-elderly people who make over $20,000. So technically, only 18% of Americans don't pay taxes, and only 0.9% who are eligible to pay taxes don't. So that argument is flawed. And technically, the wealthy should pay more in taxes, not only to help with the deficit but also to lower income inequality so the economy can recover in a more balanced way for EVERYONE, not just the 1%.
Wasn't this the same woman who said that there was no such thing as society and who claimed to be "...extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end????" And here's another quote that you should consider: "Capitalism and the market are presented as synonymous, but they are not. Capitalism is both the enemy of the market and democracy." David Korten.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Good grief writing a novel today?
Maybe...
If you read my earlier post....you'll see that although 43% of people don't pay taxes (because they are poor, retired, out of work, etc.), there are .53% of wealthy households that paid NO taxes in 2009. And, this percentage went up from .51%! So, don't start blaming the 43% for not paying taxes.....they didn't have money to do so. What is the excuse for the 35,000 wealthy households making over $200,000 and paid nothing in taxes?
@Didi-376564
Their excuses is the top 1% can do it, they can do it too. Thousands of millionaire have off-shores accounts and avoided tax in 2009. The IRS even give a lenient way to pay back all the taxes.
Oh my, they have too much money outside of US, they can't possibly pay now.
So........good grief is all they have after a smackdown of reality facts. Let us not forget it was Bush and his banksters, wallstreeters and repubs trickling down who caused the people to lose their jobs, their life savings, their homes, etc. Now after they have taken all their money they whine that the poor aren't paying the taxes they are supposed to be paying. Gallop poll 6/14/2012...68% of all Americans blame Bush for the economy mess.
Freshieee CuongDNguyen and Didi...always a tip of the hat to all your posts. Reality and facts are so hard for the rt wing to comprehend.
out of facts and limited vocabulary there Srich?
you couldnt debate richieee because he has too big a vocabulary?
Srich is a classic example of a hypocrite.
Seeing as how most every poll that asks the question "What's the biggest issue for you?" the resounding answer of "The Economy!" gets the highest percentage of votes, I'd say staying focused on the economy is what people WANT from their candidates.
I mean seriously...at this point our economy is so bad that there's a rather large flow of illegal immigrants LEAVING the US because they can now officially find better jobs in Mexico.
I want to be 100% clear about the following statement, this is nothing but me using the expression that best fits the scenario: "Rats abandoning a sinking ship." We're going down and even the illegals can see it, as such there's no reason for them to stay here. According to the linked article, we've seen the largest drop in the illegal immigrant population - due to people leaving the country on their own - "in modern history".
The short version: you know your economy is F'ed in the A when the illegal migrant workers decide that the grass is greener back where they came from.
Seriously.........when reality starts mimicking a South Park episode, that's a sign that you've got SERIOUS problems.
Umm, because the economy is not the ONLY issue facing the country. You know, things like education, healthcare, the budget, etc???? Obama is vulnerable about the economy, but he has a lot of accomplishments on that front, like the economy-saving stimulus, the 4.3 million jobs created in the private sector, and the fact that the country has created more jobs in the private sector under 4 years of Obama then during the entire Bush administration. Romney is merely Bush 2.0; if we elect him, we will have to brace with a new war with Iran and an economic collapse, along with future credit downgrades...
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really?
that's not what the statistics say.
education: worst ever
universal health care - socialism in progress.
budget - i like do like Obama's budget?
So most Americans don't know about education, healthcare, and the budget deficit???
That's why we need more federal control and oversight.
No, but if it is it's much better than letting thousands of people dying because they aren't insured or can't afford procedures, eh??? There are some things that the private sector CANNOT do, and healthcare is one of them.
Chances are you don't, but I doubt it's any worse than Romney's social Darwinist plans...
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Easy to see where you stand....more federal control and oversight?!?!?!?!? Really???
I want the government out of my life, and business!!! We THE PEOPLE can do things better than the government....
When will you understand that the government fails at everything it does when it tries to take it over, so why would ANYONE want more regulations....move to a country that does!
Tyranny ends in NOVEMBER!!
Yes, really.
You do realize that the government is the people, at least it was before Citizens United???? And by the way, if you want the government out of your life and business, stop driving on government-built highways; using federally-insured bank accounts; or sending your kids to public schools. Also, if you happen to be laid off, don't take an unemployment check. Sound like a deal???
Sooo, it was the GOVERNMENT that made risky financial bets that tanked the financial industry, instead of the big banks???? It was the GOVERNMENT that laid off millions of people, not the businesses that collapsed due to the recession???? It was the GOVERNMENT that ruined healthcare, instead of our obsolete healthcare system???? Yeah right. Government got us out of the Great Depression, won World War II, helped spur the largest economic expansion in US history, and led to great advances in education and infrastructure, NOT the private sector. Not to mention that the Internet that you and I are using was created by the government for the military during the Cold War....
Hell yea. Teapublicans out 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA BIDEN and the Democrats 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Freshieee,
Make this perfectly straight. You want the Federal Government to have complete control of our lives, our businesses, our educations, and everything in between? Because reading your comments, that is all I am taking away from it.
Oh, and,
WW1 ended the Great Depression. Soldiers won WW2. Private entrepreneurs spur the economy (when gov.s get out of the way.) Education and infrastructure? Where exactly are we ranked in education? Our infrastructure is falling apart.
You're a gov. worker aren't you?
More whining.........keep gumberment out of our libes.......don't touch our social security, medicare, post office, fix the potholes, keep the water safe to drink, my house is on fire put it out, call the police I am being robbed, does this chicken taste funny to you and why is it green?
The list is endless, you want it all for you and no one else and everyone else is supposed to pay for it but you. So what do repubs do, create more jobs? Oh hell no, they create voter suppression laws causing millions not being able to vote because of a made up problem from ALEC, More anti gay laws, more healthcare laws against women's health, laws to out law birth control and more tax breaks for rich while making laws to make you pay for their tax breaks.......you want the government out of your life? Try another country.
And yet the Republican-controlled Congress and Republican-controlled states have been obsessed with passing laws that grant more power to the government to regulate your personal life.
No, I am not a fan of totalitarianism or Big Brother-style government. But I do think that the government has a big role to play in the economy and in society. That, my friend, is not socialism.
World War I occurred BEFORE the Great Depression. World War II was won by soldiers, but you have to laud commanders like Patton and MacArthur, who by the way were GOVERNMENT WORKERS. Private entrepreneurs spur the economy, but they would be squashed by big business if it weren't for government regulation. And how well did the private sector work in 2008 when government got out of the damn way??? We USED to be leaders in education and infrastructure, until we began to cut budgets and neglect infrastructure in favor of stupid foreign adventures and regressive tax cuts. Now we need to spend our way out of this recovery, reform and partially centralize education, and rebuild our roads and bridges. And guess what: it'll need more taxes.
Nope. My father is, though. Tell me, what's your beef with government workers??? You got a grudge against them??? Are prejudiced against them??? You Teapublicans need to realize that the teachers who taught you, the police and firefighters who protect you, and the soldiers who serve and die for you are GOVERNMENT WORKERS. So was George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and guess what, RONALD REAGAN.
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Is Romney too focused on the economy? No.
It's the overriding topic of the election.
The GOP is going to stand pat all summer, pounding the economy message, and let Obama hang himself.
It's already working.
Everyday is another disaster under Obama ....
agent214:
I didn't think I would have to say this but, if they are shouting the same things that got us into the worst economic downturn in our lives, then it doesn't really matter does it. They can shout, "Obama isn't giving money to the rich. We need to finish ruining the economy." But that really doesn't matter.
bigben,
I have to ask your thoughts on the outcome of the Cox trial. You know who Cox is, the loony toon who is looking at life, plus 70 years for threatening a Federal Judge and thinking he could mount a revolution in Alaska, lololololol.
The question asked is Romney too focused on the economy, should really be stated as: does Mittens have the brain to try and address more than one issue at a time? His handlers say no, it takes too long to train him on what to say on another topic other than, 'when I'm elected I'll let you know what my plan is' or 'we'll get back to you on that issue' Mittens is a brainless thinkless machine manipulated by the big money boys.
As the Democraps resident Degenerate Hero "Slick Willy" Clinton so often pronounced, "It's The Economy STUPID!"With Hussein Zero, "It's Anything The Pathetic Failure Touches."Good Riddance to little barry.
bear in mind Alan... most of the crowd here are publicly educated
Yea, because your education clearly worked wonders.
And hello to Romney's "Shovel Ready" jobs!!
In China?
No no no, you're looking at it wrong. They'll be in China so we can spy on the Chinese and discover their secrets. Which ironically is the bulk of his foreign policy more than likely.
@Alan
Uhm, wasnt slick Willie the last president to balance the budget
I don't think Romney is as focused as Bam Bam...I mean the he said he is focused like a laser beam....he said it...it must be true...right? But right now I think he's focused on keeping himself from being impeached and his AG out of jail..
On top of the issues concerning Greece, Spain, and Europe we still have monopolistic banks and corporations controlling access to stimulus capital. Small business is being squeezed out of the picture by these monopolies. This eliminates jobs as well as competition for business which in turn lets corporations set the price on goods and services. As jobs from competitors are eliminated people become dependent on these corporations for their source of income and commodities. The ability to earn a decent wage through the demand for your skills is eliminated or limited to what the corporation is willing to pay as they become the only game in town. This is akin to the days of old when people could only find work at the mine and were payed by company currency which could only be spent at the company store. As these large companies force smaller businesses out and destroy jobs they destroy the economy and as their profit margin dwindles they close up and liquidate assets leaving people with no place to turn for work and creating a virtual ghost town in their wake. Competition between many small businesses is what helps to keep prices in check and promotes job creation. Monopolies were once illegal in this country for good reason. Congress needs to stop cock blocking programs related to repair of infrastructure such as roads and bridges and instead of stimulus money going to big corporations who are reaping large profits and banks that are using stimulus and clients cash in risky stock ventures the money should be invested in small businesses that can create jobs and help drive the economy into recovery.
To focused on the Economy? WFT are you insane. Just because Team Obama ignores the economy, does not mean that Romney should ignor it. ITS THE DISMAL ECONOMY STUPID!
it's bizarre.
talk about one dumb azz article.
"It's the economy, stupid!"
It's refreshing to see someone is concerned about the economy for a change. Obama sure isn't...
he should start worrying about those F & F documents he never saw
Only MSNBC would write a stupid headline and article like this in our economic times.
someone has to be worrying about the economy, maybe in contrast with who we have in office now you could consider romney focused like a laser. in general he is talking about it because we all know the economy effects us all and with obama leading (chuckle) the economy sucks
Got news for you. The economy is going to suck for the next 4 years. Doesn't matter who you choose.
To Fred, BMan, etc,
Being President, being the head of the Executive Branch which means to execute Laws, to execute Foreign Policy, to lead in War, does not mean that Any President can wave a magic wand and make the US economy tied in to the World Economy, particularly without the help of The Republican Congress, rapidly Improve. But guess what, it has improved, slowly, but much better than Europe. And for those of us who have a longer than average memory, this has been a remarkable thing.
Think about it,if you can get over blind partisanship, in the 1930s, there was a World recession/Depression, the magnitude of which was not much worse than that that resulting from Bush Administration policies, the depth of misery was far worse. And what subsequently occured was that Government spending and intervention was instituted and eventually saved the economy, but took years.
The US economy has been saved. it may limp along in the face of international headwinds, but it is improving. And that is remarkable and a testimony to American resolve, the FED and the few Businesses that are hiring , not holding back to keep interest rates low and abolish Corporate taxes, as well as CEO security and salaries high, the Business Agenda.
It's time we stop bowing at the throne of Business and work to make Businesses realize that the source of their product as well as consumers who use or buy them, is the work ethic and creativity of its employees, not just the CEO captain of the Ship.
@Fred: The simple mindedness and the gullibility of the Republicans never ceases to amaze me. Our economy sucks because we have spent the last forty years borrowing from the future - which means that every President including the beloved Reagan deserves some blame. It sucks because President Bush essentially sold out on the American worker in order to protect American corporations in 2001 when bringing China into the WTO. It sucks because Bush wasted trillions on a couple pointless wars, enjoyed the benefits of the housing money party he allowed happen, and then tried to make it all better with his very Keynsian tax handout that was never paid for. When you put this all together, why anyone would still be a Republican is beyond me. And why on Earth would we want to return the the utter and total incompetence of Republican ideology? Huh?
GCV, you claim that we are in this condition because of borrowing for the last 40 years and say that the Republicans are crazy for being Republicans. You have to be kidding! What has your beloved Democratic president done for the first three years of his term? Then the old Liberal cry that it's Bush's fault. Obama knew the situation when he was running for President and still made claims that he would fix it all. He lied, he failed and you claim that it was everybody's fault except the one is who truly responsible for the last three years. Obama has had 3 1/2 years to do something about China. What has he done? WTO stands for World Trade Organization, but you claim that Bush single handedly brought China into a world organization. Nice try, but you lose. For his entire term, Obama has concentrated on everything but the economy. He chooses to worry about Gays, illegal immigrants and a farce he calls health care reform. I do understand why Democrats remain Democrats though, they just want to ensure their place at the government teat.
Both partys suck.The congress sucks to. My answer,president Ron Paul! then elections to replace every single person in both houses.And term limits! Its a nice dream anyhow.
May I add getting rid of all lobbyists to your dream list?
Realist, I understand you conservatives got nothing, except your feeble attempts to convince the rest of us that somehow President Obama has "done nothing" or no record to run on or has accomplished nothing or those accomplishments are somehow insignificant or somehow being ham-stringed by a do-nothing congress determined to see him fail has no bearing whatsoever on his ability to accomplish anything. Too bad for you that the facts tell otherwise.
Under President Obama the economy is improving, the unemployment rate is dropping, we're paying the lowest taxes in 65 years, private sector jobs are consistently being added each month, he saved or created millions of jobs with the Recovery Act and the auto loan bailout, the stock market has doubled and at its highest in 13 years, regulations have been passed that will prevent another casino on Wall Street and economic meltdown, more oil leases have been opened up than by previous administrations and oil production and active wells in the U.S. are at the highest level in nearly a decade, we're exiting wars we should have never engaged in, we're earning back the respect of the rest of the world, major landmark legislation has been passed that benefits millions of middle and working class Americans, e.g., Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, major landmark legislation has been passed that expands federal hate crime laws which is known as the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, young people brought to the US illegally as children through no fault of their own can now apply for a work permit if they meet tough standards which creates a beginning to congress finally passing the Dream Act resulting in a path to citizenship for these young people, a draconian discriminatory policy, DADT, within our military was repealed, several leaders of al-Qaeda have been captured or killed, and the most wanted, Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind 9/11, was hunted down and killed, etc., etc., etc.
All this and so much more despite being handed the worst economic catastrophe in 65 years caused by proven failed republican policies and then being ham-stringed by a do nothing obstructionist republican congress who's only goal is to defeat him and see him fail no matter the cost to this nation.
President Obama's economic and foreign policies are working and he has accomplished a great deal. Those are the facts.
You're obviously describing some parallel universe in which you live. Have a nice life there. Hard working, productive, taxpaying Americans who reside in the here and now are HOPING a CHANGE has been effected when they awaken on the morning of November 7th.
social, I stated facts. Where are yours?