Obama administration won't seek deportation of young illegal immigrants

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President Barack Obama makes remarks about the Department of Homeland Security's recent announcement about deportation of illegal immigrants in the Rose Garden at the White House June 15, 2012 in Washington, D.C.

 

Updated 4:18 p.m. ET - The Obama administration announced on Friday that it would no longer seek the deportation of most young illegal immigrants, and would instead allow them to apply for work permits, a significant policy shift with potentially major electoral implications.

The Department of Homeland Security said that, effective immediately, the government would no longer seek the deportation of illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, and would allow them to apply for work permits if they meet certain criteria.

The decision was intended to make America's immigration system "more fair, more efficient and more just," President Barack Obama said in an afternoon statement in the Rose Garden.

"They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants, and oftentimes had no idea they were undocumented until they applied for a job," the president said. "They are Americans in their hearts, in their minds ... in every single way but one: on paper."

President Obama announces that the Department of Homeland Security will no longer seek the deportation of many young illegal immigrants.

A senior administration official said in a conference call with reporters that as many as 800,000 undocumented immigrants stand to benefit from this change.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the shift represented neither immunity nor amnesty -- buzzwords for conservatives who oppose illegal immigration -- but instead represented an instance of "prosecutorial discretion" in which the government had re-evaluated its priorities in enforcing the law.

"This is not amnesty; this is not immunity; this is not a path to citizenship," Obama said, calling today's move a "temporary fix."

Obama interrupted by heckling at immigration announcement

The shift essentially accomplishes many of the legislative intentions of the DREAM Act, an immigration reform bill that had stalled in Congress due to Republican objections. President Barack Obama favors the legislation, while presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has said he would veto that law.

The new rule comes amid a bruising election year fight between Obama and Romney, in which the Latino vote could be decisive. Obama enjoys a strong advantage with Latino voters, winning 61 percent of Latinos vs. 27 percent for Romney in a mid-May NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Telemundo poll.

Romney, speaking to reporters in New Hampshire, said he thought that the status of children who were brought to the United States illegally is important to resolve, but only on a long-term basis.

"I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long term solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short term matter. It can be reversed by subsequent presidents," Romney said. He didn't say whether he would seek the new rule's reversal.

"If I'm president, we'll do our very best to have that kind of long term solution that provides certainty and clarity for the people who come into this country through no fault of their own by virtue of the actions of their parents," the former Massachusetts governor added.

The Hispanic vote is of particular importance in swing states like Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Florida, among others. Those states could swing the election toward Obama or Romney, elevating the importance of the margin between the two candidates with Latino voters.

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Immigration activists gather in front of the White House to celebrate the Obama Administration's announcement about deportation of illegal immigrants June 15, 2012 in Washington, D.C.

Obama's biggest challenge, though, has involved motivating Latino voters to turn out for him with the same strength they had in 2008. The president had faced lingering complaints stemming from his inability to advance the comprehensive immigration reform he had promised as a candidate in 2008.

Skepticism, joy among illegal immigrants over Obama decision

The president tweaked Republicans in Congress for blocking the legislation, saying that he continued to favor both the full DREAM Act as well as a broader comprehensive immigration reform package that would allow a pathway to citizenship.

"There's no reason that we can't come together and get this done. And as long as I'm president, I will not give up on this issue," Obama said.

In a memorandum to immigration enforcement officials, Napolitano wrote that immigrants who were illegally brought to the United States as children "lacked the intent to violate the law," and pose few national security risks.

The memo said the government would not pursue immigrants who met five criteria. Individuals must:

  • Have come to the United States under the age of 16,
  • Be no older than 30,
  • Be currently enrolled in school, have graduated high school or served in the military,
  • Have been in the country for five continuous years, and
  • Have a clean criminal record.

A senior administration official noted that the new rules were not permanent, though, and conceded that a different administration with a different policy could conceivably choose to withdraw this regulation.

"The executive can always change its mind about how to exercise discretion," said the official.

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer responds to President Obama's immigration policy announcement on Friday.

The policy shift presents a challenge for Romney, who ran to the right of some of his opponents on the issue of immigration during the Republican primary. He had opposed the DREAM Act, and explained during a debate that his immigration policy involved "self-deportation."

First Read: Obama leads big with Latinos

That hard-line stance prompted handwringing among Republicans who have long worried about the long-term political fallout associated with alienating Latino voters. Florda Gov. Jeb Bush suggested earlier this week that much of the Republican rhetoric surrounding immigration had been "insulting."

"Change the tone would be the first thing," he said of his advice to Republicans. "Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach."

Ironically, the Obama administration's new rule would accomplish many of the same goals of a limited version of the DREAM Act proposed by Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, which stops short of offering young illegal immigrants citizenship, but gives them a type of legal status. Romney said he was considering the proposal from Rubio, a popular choice of conservatives to round out the Republican ticket as a vice presidential nominee.

In a statement, Rubio straddled praise and criticism for the move.

"Today’s announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem," he said. "And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one."

Romney said of Rubio: "I'd like to see legislation that deals with this issue and I happen to agree with Marco Rubio as he considers this issue. He said that this is an important matter, we have to find a long term solution but the president's action makes reaching a long term solution more difficult."

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Thank you Mr. President for having the courage to finally end the kicking of the can!

Actions do indeed speak louder then words!

Something which has been long overdue!

You think the timing of this announcement will flatten the tires on bit on Willard's big bus? lol

  • 238 votes
#1 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

Living on a border state I'm not as excited as the rest of you. That being said why doesn't he make a truly remarkable yet controversial move and say...NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES.

Allowing illegals has been long agreed to by both parties in my opinion so I'm not awed. Do something really awesome like evoke executive privilege and start fixing the infrastructure while putting millions of people to work.

And I'm a Democrat....a very disappointed Democrat I might add.

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#1.1 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

Actions do speak louder than words,

Obama will sell out to any group to get re-elected.

NObama 2012!

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#1.2 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT
Comment author avatarProudWestVirginianExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yea, thank you mr president. As if the unemployment rate in America wasn't bad enough. Give some more jobs to illegal immigrants, just because you want the illegal vote. Call me a tea partier if you want. I'll just be clicking by the elephant this time around. Can't be any worse.

  • 564 votes
#1.3 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT
Comment author avatarCult of PersonalityExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I agree, something that is long overdue! However it comes across as political pandering. Democrat or Republican, they are all politicians in the end, and timing is everything!

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#1.4 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

Lame, a slap in the face for immigrants who came over legally through the proper channels, thanks for supporting a dumbdown america and all for political gain...fking traders

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#1.5 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarWatermoonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Makes sense to Redhead - who once again gets to lead off the posts. Such an obvious attempt by the editors who taint the pool with her Marxist comments as she leads off so many.

So at a time when we are at a real unemployment of near 15% with over 25% of young people unemployed, Obama is going to give work permits to 800,000 illegal aliens. Once again Obama sells out the country to boost his re-election chances - bribing the Hispanics for their votes! I guess he figures his Black youth who are well over 35% unemployed are too stupid to see what he is doing and will just vote for him anyway - since he is Black.

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#1.6 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJohn-2006106Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Thank you Fiesty Red Head:

For having the odd and amazing ability to have the VERY FIRST POST in so many of these political stories.

Can you please tell us all if are an MSBNC employee or simply someone working for the DNC who's given access to the MSBNC articles to make your first post before anyone else can. It's just remarkable that MSNBC has turned their Newsvine over to a pure professional political hack who masquerades as a member of the general public.

Stroke of the pen, law of the land. That's why Obama is such a despot and will be voted out of office in November.

*pass the popcorn

NOBAMA 2012!

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#1.7 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

This is nothing but a political stunt to try and salvage his flailing presidential campaign.

How about some jobs to go along with those work permits, huh?

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#1.8 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHal-2824511Restored

Isn't Mitt Romney an "anchor baby"?

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#1.9 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:34 AM EDT
Comment author avatarplsthink90Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Not a smart move on his part. I really don't think he must want a second term. This is by far the best headline yet!! Keep giving away those jobs, Americans don't need em I guess. What a JOKE!!

  • 275 votes
#1.11 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

Another ploy to influence votes. If he can fast track their naturilization, they'll be able to vote also. Obama is a shameless President. He'll do ANYTHING.

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#1.12 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 AM EDT
Comment author avatarSophie-472322-608038Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Well, they can't cote unless they are citizens, so he's not quite going for their illegal vote. I think we need to concentrate of immigration reform so we can make cases like this, tax paying citizens. We already paid for their education, why send them back home now? Let's concentrate our resources on deporting drug traffickers and gang members instead. We need reform now!

  • 73 votes
#1.13 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

I am so f^cking p!ssed, What a crock of $hit is this? Open the floodgates, kiss any jobs is construction good-bye, what a d!ck. No more out-sourcing of cheap labor...YAY, THEY WILL ALL BE HERE!!!!

  • 343 votes
#1.14 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBigBear62Restored

Another step in the direction of allowing non citizens to vote in this nation. Another step in not enforcing the laws that have been made by our Congress. Another step in the direction of being impeached for not upholding the Constitution. The President is not a king, and if keeps ignoring the Constitution, he should be impeached for these actions.

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#1.15 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarAngelicaSRestored

As a life-long Democrat, this pronouncement to be a despicable act of subversion of federal law, rank pandering, and a patent violation of executive authority. Rewards for immigration lawbreaking and special treatment that is granted (sans Congressional approval) incident to immigration lawbreaking will backfire stupendously in Election 2012!

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE! American citizens and LEGAL immigrants will overwhelmingly find the decision to reward and grant special treatment in exchange for immigration lawbreaking to be a deal-breaker and a breach of national sovereighnty!

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#1.16 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJohnny GeckoRestored

It doesn't matter if you live on a border state, I don't live on a border state and we are over run with immigrants. Polish/Russian, Asian and Middle Eastern. I don't see a effort to eliminate them out of the US. we only pick on the Mexican's Because it's easy, they are right next door. And besides the whole southwest belongs to native american/mexicans anyway. The problem with mexico is not so much the immigrants but the Drug Cartel's that Mexican/So. American immigrants are trying to get away from. We should be helping solve that issue.

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#1.17 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

I guess I should get a refund on all the cash I put out to get my wife here legally then.....???

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#1.18 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT
Comment author avatarThe GYPSY!Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Does your life suck so bad that you have absolutely nothing else left in life except to sit there vigilantly waiting to be the first to post on the MSNBC vine?

[no need to answer]

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#1.19 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

Ok Feisty today's the day you answer my question: How are you almost always the first poster on the political stories?

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#1.20 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRoger-542157Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bammy, you be thinking nthis be gittin you relected - you be rong - we wites pissed off.

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#1.21 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

PLSTHINK90 Talk about giving away jobs. Have you heard that Obama is allowing the Chinese to start building bridges , etc. here. They'll be sorry when the first one falls dow or road collapses.

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#1.22 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
Comment author avatarEliMaeRestored

I am very happy about this move. It is the perfect example of the values this country was founded upon. Thank you, Mr. Obama, for upholding the spirit of the nation and for making a decision that demonstrates human capability for compassion and understanding and for standing up for all the young people who some would punish for the crimes of others. A great many of us would not be here if punishing the son for the crimes of the father had always been the policy of this country, including myself. I was born and raised in this country, and did not speak another language until I was 22 years old. If I had been deported because my mother or my grandfather had broken the law, I would have had nowhere to go because Neither of them have contact with family "back home."

No matter what you think about the economy, try to remember that these are people, not policies. They are children, not criminals. Anyone who meets the criteria given are exactly the kind of people who will help our economy, so your cries about the unemploymet rate and tax dollars are irrelevant. No illegal immigrant nor their children have taken my job from me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

ProudWestVirginian, it was worse with the last elephant. Thanks to him, my son was born into a country at war and has lived in it his whole life. His grandfather and two uncles have both been sent into it. In case you've forgotten, that elephant was the whole reason we are in this mess to begin with (not to mention practically illiterate).

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#1.23 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:41 AM EDT
Comment author avatarplantlady99Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I just don't get it Mr. Obama. Don't you know that illegals can't vote so why in the hell are you hell bent on making the the illegals happy but kicking AMERICA in the face. The next "law" you will pass will " if an illegal has a work permit they will have the right to vote law. One and done, vote people!!!!!!!

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#1.24 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
Comment author avatarilikelobstertailsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No he just kicked it and made himself look good (to fools) doing it.

What if I start helping families from the village where I come from come to this country illegally next month? Oh we are bringing the kids, I know we won't qualify for this policy or Dream Act, but don't worry, I'll have them march in streets again, holding up the same exact signs "I am illegal and not affraid" and just demand for Dream Act II when they all grow up. You can't be telling me that it's not ok for my childhood best friend's family to come here illegally. His kid is just 3 month old, and I guarantee he'll grow up to be a brain surgeon. But hey thanks for your support in advance, he'll need it in about 18 - 20 years.

Why should anybody come here legally when you can do this? POTUS should just fire everyone in USCIS, cut cost right?

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#1.25 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHopeyChangeyFeelyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Does Feisty realize that 99% of her foaming-at-the-mouth ramblings get collapsed by the community?

Even the majority of liberals here don't want to listen to this garbage.

What's the point in commenting at all, at this point?

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#1.26 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:43 AM EDT
Comment author avatarinmissouriRestored

You can't really blame kids that were brought here illegally by their parents. They may not even be able to speak their parents' native language. Work visas sound like a reasonable idea to me. We do need to control our borders better, though.

  • 63 votes
#1.27 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
Comment author avataramikeRestored

Please explain how this POTUS has the power to nullify US Law. His arrogance is nothing short of astounding. It is bad policy, bad for our country (not that he cares), and is clearly pandering for hispanicvotes. I am sure that his next move (after they have their work permits) is to give them government jobs to boost the public sector workforce that he says is lagging behind in his "economic recovery". Do any of you libs have a plan that pays for any of this largesse? Oh yeah, your plan is to raise taxes on the "wealthy". Good plan, continue to penalize the people who already pay the majority of taxes. I hope all you libs are checking the box and sending in additional tax money with your returns.....you can never have too big of a government right?

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#1.28 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarEmanuel-0684Restored

As if the unemployment rate in America wasn't bad enough. Give some more jobs to illegal immigrants, just because you want the illegal vote

Where does it say they become citizens? Only citizens can vote, so what vote is he winning here?

  • 69 votes
#1.29 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBarMaggExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Excellent move Mr President! Why spend all that cash moving machinery and materials to other countries when you can just bring more workers here to do those same jobs at a fraction of the cost? I think the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing is almost complete now! Both sides of the aisle are now one and the same in their desire to ruin this country.

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#1.30 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

Thats nice but what does it have to do with this story?

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#1.31 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

So much for a Representative Democracy...

Can't wait till a Republican is in office so we can issue some Policies without debate between elected officials.

I'm thinking elimination of Planned Parenthood, a rework of Medicare and Medicaid, Immigration, Welfare, Tax Code....all sorts of good things.

Can't wait......

  • 106 votes
#1.32 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:49 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRobert-3739553Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Even though I semi-agree with the policy, he still should do it in a manner that is constitutional. This is the problem I have with odumbo, he's pulling all these "Sneaky" deals all over the world and makes me not to trust my own President. When will truth telling be the way of the world again. I guess we are asking the illegals to do it, maybe we could set better examples first. Especially coming from our top officials.

  • 51 votes
#1.33 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
Comment author avatardburton-2686409Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Because I, for one, always un collapse her comment so I can read it. Most of them are pretty spot on if you ask me.

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#1.34 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
Comment author avatarSweetAZExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Really? You all really think that this is going to take the jobs away from us "real Americans"? For your information...a "real American" is one that works hard and WANTS to be here. This is what we are founded on and this holier than thou approach makes me wanna chirp. Secondly, these kids are ALREADY working...some of them serving in a military role to protect the very ones that are talking smack about them. So the statements about taking away our jobs is completely unfounded....they are already here and working as an American, many coming over as small children and having no memory of another life.

This sanctimonious, self righteous approach is flat out disturbing. We are supposed to be nation of compassion, freedom and the American dream...yet all we do is bicker amongst ourselves, stand tall on the backs of others and talk sh^% to anyone that will listen. I am so proud. UGH.

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#1.35 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
Comment author avatarConcern Citizen-856329Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The Obama administration announced on Friday that it would no longer seek the deportation of most young illegal immigrants, and would instead allow them to apply for work permits, a significant policy shift with potentially major electoral implications.

Good news, more or less what the other side has done and what Rubio is trying to do in Florida. The key words are "most young illegal immigrants". I have to handed to this President, he speaks with fork tong. Just like he evolved on Gay marriage but it will be at the State Level.

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#1.36 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJo Ann-666954Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Napolitano wrote that immigrants who were illegally brought to the United States as children "lacked the intent to violate the law," and pose few national security risks.

As Janet Napolitano knows this how? I didn't realize she has a crystal ball.

Listen people, Obama cares about no one except his own family and getting re-elected.

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#1.37 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:52 AM EDT
Comment author avatarAmerica Today-AnthonyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

These are the acts of someone like Hugo Chavez. It reminds me of the morning I read that Obama released 45 million barrels of oil from our SPOR in a lame attempt to curb speculators.

All that did was give the speculators a lower buying point for oil futures.

When Bush was president it was rumored that he was thinking about releasing oil for the SPOR and Democrats were waiting to burn him in effigy. Obama just does what he wants.

Obama will continue to do things like this all the way up to the election.

Wait until he tries to run for a third term claiming war time privilege.

  • 76 votes
#1.38 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

Well, this should really get the get the right wing hate mongers started. Funny how they will bash the "illegals", the liberals, the Democrats, and this administration, but they never bash those good patriots called US business leaders, who are almost 100% Republican, yet it is those who hire the these "illegals". How about all you righties joining OCCUPY and help end the insanity of predatory capitalism, that's the real problem.

  • 12 votes
#1.39 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarLMarcTExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Maybe, just MAYBE, this is a long overdue announcement that improves the lot of Americans but is one of those "why not, we'll get blamed for it anyway" moves.

Make a positive decision long overdue, let the conversation shift to it's criticism, let the right show their true colors, and watch the votes migrate left... win, win, win, win.

Read the above posts and tell me I'm wrong. LOL

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#1.40 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

To hell with the country, he wants re-elected.

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#1.41 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarSpencer-399802Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Coming here illegally is the only crime you can commit, and legally hand down the benefits to your kids.

This is buying democrat votes, plane and simple.

"I will make special exceptions for you if you'll vote for me".

Obama is a crook. It's just that simple.

Supporters of laws like this are just insane. Not a single one has ever been able to answer this question. "Why should a person who is here illegally be granted privileges that someone who is working to come here legally doesn't have?"

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#1.42 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

This will certainly help many good people to stay in the country.

The draw back is that this not only doesn't change the current illegal alien problem, it may enhance it. This has happened before and apparently it will continue to happen in the future because of actions like President Obama and other presidents before have done.

The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin giving work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of a growing Latino electorate that has opposed administration deportation policies.

The administration's decision will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants. Two senior administration officials described the plan to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity ahead of its expected announcement Friday.

Illegal immigrants will avoid deportation and be eligible for work permits if they arrived in the U.S. before age 16, are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED, or served in the military.

If this is what the president and the administration wants fine if they take it one step further. If a person is here illegally and has meet those requirements and is under age 21, they probably are living with parents who are also here illegally. So, the person under 21 should have to disclose who they live with and if they are indeed illegal and they also meet all of the new requirements (lived here 5 years or more/no criminal record, they would then have 12 months from identification to pass a test that proves they can effectively read/write/speak English. If they are able to pass that test, have active employment and a desire to stay, they would become U.S. citizens.

I have thought for many years what would be a more practical solution to our problem that doesn't require more border patrols, new laws that encourage illegals from coming here under some new type of amnesty, unreasonable fences/walls or later problems with people coming across our borders illegally.

Make a change to the wording of the 14th amendment. Change the wording so that no one is granted U.S. citizenship simply by being born in this country unless: both parents of the child born in the U.S. are current U.S. citizens. That alone would prevent tens of thousands of people who cross our borders just in time to give birth so that not only does the child get to stay, but almost always the mother is allowed to stay to care for the child. A mother alone often isn't able to care for the child and work, so often times the father then comes here to support the family and we now have a minimum of 2 more illegals because of birth rights granted under the 14th amendment.

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#1.43 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:56 AM EDT
Comment author avatarhs321Restored

This is a slap in the face to every American looking for a job right now. It's a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant who followed the law and stood and line and a swift kick in the butt to every unemployed LEGAL immigrant who followed the law and stood and line.

It's incentive for millions more to enter the country illegally in anticipation of being rewarded for it.

And it's a violation of law to aid and abet illegal aliens.

I simply can't imagine anyone who calls themselves an American, of either party, that would vote for the pandering scum bag Obama.

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#1.44 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:57 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJohn-2006106Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Gingerbread Mama (Post 1.10)

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It's amazing that Gingerbread's comment was deleted in 12 minutes. This leads me to believe that MSNBC is closely monitoring this Newsvive, perhaps in an effort to gauge public opinion so they can report back to their Overlords in the White House. It sure seems that the Newsvine is not quite the benign public opinion forum that MSNBC portrays it to be. Here's more circumstantial evidence.

1) Fiesty Redhead is allowed to Post the FIRST comment in the majority of these political reports. 650 comments in 45 minutes, but SOMEHOW Fiesty is always the first post! Highly improbably without having special access to the MSNBC Newsvine system.

2) Fiesty Redhead is frequently "collapsed" but almost always rapidly restored, while other posts remain collapsed.

3) Firesy Redhead never seems to be "sanction" by Sally, Ted, Willie or any of the other MSNBC Newsvine Moderators despite her frequent violation of the "Code of Conduct"

4) Gingerbread Mama's comment was posted around 10:35 but as of 10:48 it was deleted, indicating that MNSBC has been closely monitoring comments.

After listening to Janet Napoliano's "conference call" announcing her "decision", it's clear this is nothing more than a crass political ploy. There's NO urgent compelling need to grant amnesty to illegal aliens right now, on June 15th, unless you're a narcissistic incompetent boob with lagging poll numbers who's desperate to do ANYTHING to help shore up your base.

Obama was hired to Support and Defend the Constitution, not to act like a Dictator. But thankfully his "reign of error" will end in January 2013!

NOBAMA 2012!

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#1.45 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:00 AM EDT
Comment author avatarToxicChemistRestored

If you can't get a majority of the (US) votes, import them for OTHER COUNTRIES.

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#1.46 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

GREAT!! The construction job that my husband lost over 2 years ago can now go to some non-tax paying, charity case while my 3 children continue to eat beans and mac-n' cheese. Thanks for NOT supporting your own country's out of work and homeless.

Hey, why not use that money we are STILL sending to Japan for WWII, or the money you pay for the local abortion clinic to be free for someone who can't keep their legs together or the bribes, I mean political dinner that is $1,000 per plate, as a start to help your own people here in the US. Mr. President, Mr. Congressman, Mr. Senator....YOU SUCK!!! Thanks for nothing

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#1.47 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:02 AM EDT
Comment author avatarLin NilRestored

Thank you Mr. President!

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#1.48 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

Wow, just like that, America will be over ran by Mexicans with kids in tow in 1 month. The only thing I pray for is REAL HOPE and CHANGE in AMERICA by REAL AMERICANS in November. Please vote in November.

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#1.49 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMidnightridrExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The red head is definitely a paid DNC troll.

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#1.50 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04 AM EDT
Comment author avatartoughluvExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Feistyfirebush has either got to be a a website administrator for msn or one big loser.

  • 65 votes
#1.51 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

I thought I understood our laws and what law meant. I guess I really don't.

How exactly does the president and his administration intend to go about this action without violating existing laws?

  • 110 votes
#1.52 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:09 AM EDT
Comment author avatarSpencer-399802Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The red head is definitely a paid DNC troll.

My guess was that she was just terminally unemployed, sucking the tax payer tit. She's the first one to post on just about every article. WE'RE paying her to sit on her fat butt, and try to convince people to continue supporting her.

  • 70 votes
#1.53 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

In other news......Mitt Romney has announced that, if he is elected President, the Executive Branch will pick and choose which laws passed by Congress will be enforced, and which laws will not be enforced.

The current President countered by asking Mitt what makes him believe that the Executive Branch will recognize the results of an election? Just because the law of land land calls for one on the first Tuesday of November? Har, har, har! Laws are meant to be enforced or ignored all at the sitting President's will!

Folks are wondering what is the point of having a Congress, and a Supreme Court, if the President can do anything he wants to?

  • 68 votes
#1.55 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

Sure, we understand, Mr President; f**k the law, you have an election to win.

  • 129 votes
#1.56 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

BHO is just pissing off the majority even more. Time for real change no BO 2012

  • 98 votes
#1.57 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:13 AM EDT
Comment author avatarToxicChemistExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I always thought that Feisty was a paid DNC Troll too. Either that or she's an "elite" that doesn't work and can sit on the computer with baited breath for the next MSNBC "pro-Obama" article to roll out -or- somebody on welfare that has nothing better to do with her life.

  • 80 votes
#1.58 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 AM EDT
Comment author avatarwje37fcsmExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

A good political move remains to be seen. A policy change that removes the noxious burden placed on immigration requiring the deportation of children who know no other country... good move and about time... plus it will drive the right-wing in this country nuts. Thank you Mr. President.

  • 26 votes
#1.59 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 AM EDT
Comment author avatarSweetAZRestored

wje37fcsm~

You are so right! I had not thought of it that way...I just figured the GOP had a national day off or something that brought them to this...but to your point, a move that is driving them nuts. LOVE it and thanks for the new perspective:)

  • 15 votes
#1.60 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

Well...I had been on the fence as far as whom I was going to vote for this November. While I am no fan of Romney, as everything he has claimed to do while in the White House will ultimately destroy the middle class in favor of the 1%'ers....I have been thoroughly disappointed in Obama these past 3 1/2 years as far as his lack of backbone in the fight with Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and the rest of Party of No who are hellbent on taking this country back 200 years.

But, this ruling, Mr. Obama....this may have been the last straw! The biggest "hot button" issue in my mind is illegal immigration, and this ruling pretty much tells every young person here illegally that even though they, or their parents, broke federal law by coming into this country, taking work from Americans, sending American money home where it buys so much more, getting into schools already overcrowded, on the taxpayers' dime, draining social resources not designed to care for them....they are NOT considered common criminals, not treated as thieves, no, instead they are given amnesty from any crimes and rewarded for their criminal behavior!!

I don't believe I'm alone in my disdain for this ruling. For every Latino vote this ruling may win for Obama in November, there will be five to ten votes he would lose by this ultimate "anti-America" policy being enacted. Obama needs to explain exactly how this is beneficial to Americans, not how it is beneficial for the illegals! I doubt his rationale will be persuasive enough to bring my vote back over to the Democratic side of the ballot.

Looks like I'll have to write in my own name for President.

  • 91 votes
#1.61 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

What a slap in the face of all the young and old people in our country that need jobs. What a hypocrite this so called president is, putting foreign nationals first. HE MUST BE IMPEACHED he is wrong for this country, or for that matter any country. This usurper in chief must go.

  • 97 votes
#1.62 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

I think this "Stunt" will kill any re-election bid our mis-guided, who I THOUGHT, semi intelligent President. One swipe of the pen and, "FLUSH" Hear that President Obama, That is your Presidency. Ya lost me!

  • 74 votes
#1.63 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

So at a time when we are at a real unemployment of near 15% with over 25% of young people unemployed, Obama is going to give work permits to 800,000 illegal aliens.

Amazing how "knee-jerk" reactions are based in very little knowledge. To address the most obvious complaint:

To get a "work visa," you have to already have a job... Your employer must be willing to sponsor you.... and it is for a limited duration and that specific job. (All of this can be found on the immigration website.) There will be no "aliens" taking jobs.

These are not "anchor babies" as the administration was very careful to exclude "amnesty" or even use this as a path to citizenship. These are people who, in some cases, didn't even know they were not Americans. They were brought here as young children by their parents. They do not speak any other language; they do not know any other way of life. They consider themselves Americans. Had their parents been sent home a decade or more ago, this would not be an issue. But immigration really was not a priority for the previous administration.

A work visa does not allow a person to vote. So, the claim that the administration is "importing voters" with this measure is patently ridiculous. Anyone who votes Democrat will certainly continue to do so if they are smart enough to at least find out what this measure actually means. Those who's battle-cry is "deport all brown people!" was never going to vote for him to begin with.

  • 32 votes
#1.64 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

I guess his next desperate move will be when he just eliminates the middlemen and makes it legal for all those from Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua,,North Korea,or who knows where, to vote here by absentee ballot, without the physical relocation, I mean, why not?,if Our President ignores the laws of the nation, laws that he swore an oath to uphold,and then,ignoring Congress and the will of the nation's actual citizens, moves by executive fiat to make his own law,and at the same time You have another radical racist in the "justice" Department, who believes Your laws do not really apply and sues your own Countrymen for trying to protect their state borders so that We can have no longer control own borders,then You are no longer a sovereign nation, just another lump of real estate being carved up and redistributed, to whomever those in power wishes.

  • 36 votes
#1.65 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

Where does it say they become citizens? Only citizens can vote, so what vote is he winning here?

And how do we verify citizens if states aren't allowed to aske for ID because apparently minorities lack to wherewithal to acquire photo IDs (so says the liberals). If you think only citizens are voting you're extremely naive. Kind of like how I used to think that only citizens could get tax returns.

  • 76 votes
#1.66 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

Why would he deport them, they vote, and it is election time, good move Mr. Obama, get those votes lined up, changes sides rather often doesn’t he, he was working hard to deport them last year.

  • 40 votes
#1.67 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

Americans please line up at unemployment benefits, while 800,000 illegals undercut you guys and take jobs away. Now watch for influx of illegals jumping the border!!!!

Americans: President we need to fix the economy, we need jobs.

President: Oh wait, illegals having trouble getting job because they don't have work permit.

He would do anything to get re-elected.

  • 66 votes
#1.68 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

This will give Obama the hispanic votes but, will that be enough to make up for all the democrats who won't vote for him because of this?

  • 63 votes
#1.69 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

What about our legal citizen children? When my 16 year old daughter applies for a job and qualifies to be hired, will she be competing with a 16 year old illegal immigrant that has been granted a work visa? Will the illegal immigrant, when denied the job in favor of my legal citizen daughter, be entitled to sue the employer for discrimination? I f*#@ing see that one coming a mile away! What is the draw for an employer to hire the illegal in favor of a citizen? The employer cannot get away with the sub-minimum wage pay for illegals anymore since the illegal will be a worker with a SSN and will pay taxes. And, if a sympathetic employer hires the illegal with a work visa in favor of our citizen children, are our children then right to sue for discrimination? If the illegal has not right to sue, why not discriminate and NOT hire the illegal. Hey, if actions speak louder than words, fine - don't give any jobs to these illegals with work visas! If we can't control what rules are enforced by our clearly vote-hungry politicians then we can speak with our actions. By the way, our actions should be to vote out the guy that is bypassing the system and choosing NOT to enforce the immigration laws on the books. I know that the alternative is not much better, however. F#@K!!!!! Why can't we get anyone good to run for office!!!!!

  • 69 votes
#1.70 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:39 AM EDT
Comment author avatarwillowbrookExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I think the best part of the "Feisty First" posting policy, it shows how high the % is that DO NOT agree with her opinions. It is great that there are a higher % of Americans who want to fix our problems than those who do not. (At least amongst those who own computers and can type.) Just because NewsVine gives preference to posters like Feisty doesn't mean we should stop posting. If anything, we should post MORE and get the word out. Liberals have long tried to snow the American Public. Case in point, Nancy Pelosi was on CBS this morning and her answers were one big Democratic talking point. She wasn't really telling the truth, and evading Charlie Rose's questions when he asked for an explanation of her talking point. Made me want to throw up, she is so out of touch with what is going on in this country. Much like our President.

Back to the article - this President will do ANYTHING if he thinks it will get him more votes come November.....all the more reason he need not be re-elected. If he would have had something to show for the last 4 years, it might have been different. He doesn't, thus why he is resorting to these underhanded tactics in an attempt to fatten up his voting base. But, as so many posters have already pointed out, this move further hurts the abilities of ACTUAL Americans to find new employment. I'm sure all those will be more than happy to vote NO for Obama since he, once again, stabbed them in the back. (And thinks it's a GOOD THING!)

NOBAMA 2012

  • 65 votes
#1.71 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:44 AM EDT
Comment author avatarhs321Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

~Me~, this will not give Obama all the Hispanics vote. Many Hispanics are people of honor.

  • 44 votes
#1.72 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

Ironically, the Obama administration's new rule would accomplish many of the same goals of a limited version of the DREAM Act proposed by Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio

Romney/Rubio 2012

  • 22 votes
#1.73 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

I cant believe how many people I see on here actually THANKING the president (and I use the term "President" VERY lightly) for this move.... I want whatever it is you people are smoking, because it apparently makes you numb, and dumb about the laws, and they way a leader SHOULD act... Everyone here is in some way an immigrant, my Great Grandparents name is on the books at Ellis Island, they came over LEGALLY, along with MILLIONS of others who have had to fill out the paperwork, and all the other countless requirements, and fees that it take to become a U.S. citizen. Its been that way for HUNDREDS of years!! And NOW ol' Barry thinks he can just sign his name on it, and anyone can come and stay.... oh yeah, as long as they promise to vote for him come Nov. well, here's a tidbit, he's digging his own grave.... I know ALOT of Dem's that won't be happy with this, and thay were already starting to pull away from him anyhow, I dont know if Romney will be any better than Pres Oblame-o.... but I know this, he SURELY CANT BE ANY WORSE!!

  • 58 votes
#1.74 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

Let me see, children who were forced to come to this country will not be deported, unless of course they have had a run in with the law. How about known gang associations? I agree, that those who excel in education, serve in the US Military(with proper documentation) should be allowed to be citizens. Out of the 23 million that should leave what 250K at most who will qualify?

When President Obama loses the election, will redhead go away mad or will she just go away.

ABO '12

  • 38 votes
#1.75 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBrian-NOBAMAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Fiestyredhead needs to get a job. What a stupid Bi!@h.

  • 36 votes
#1.76 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:48 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHOTTICKET-2304234Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Rewarding criminal aliens. That's the Feisty way. And evidently, Obama's way too.

Gotta love the "New and Improved" America, eh folks???

  • 56 votes
#1.77 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

Great timing "O". So how many favor visa's can you hand out in five months, 3-4 million? While the legal immigration process grinds on for years. Great move. And all the while hoping to get them registered to vote,,, for you of course. Didi it never occur to you that these "young Illegals" are the one's running the drug gangs for La Familia, MS-13 and Le eMe, and a myriad of smaller equally ruthless gangs? No?,,,,, perhaps you need to get out more, in THIS country. I think it was Lord Albert Fitzwater said it best during a parliament hearing on immigration in London discussing the rapid influx of Muslims into the country there, "Uncontrolled and unrestrained immigration has quickly become an invasion". Wake up Barry, we have already past that pint and you facilitate more of the same, for personal gain. Way to go.

  • 42 votes
#1.78 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

He does not have the authority to override the Immigration acts passed by Congress over the last 90 years; he is assuming dictatorial powers, detention without trial of American citizens, rewriting immigration laws, foreign assassinations, engagement in hostility's without congressional approval, using air-force one free of charge for family vacations, and campaigning, czars not answerable to any one but himself; wake up folks we are in big trouble.

  • 59 votes
#1.79 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

Sophie-472322-608038 Illegals can vote in most states. Unless states adopt a "valid ID" requirement at the polling stations, many illegals have been able to vote for many years now. Many states try to adopt the ID requirements but the Fed blocks them by the threat of reduced federal aid.

  • 41 votes
#1.80 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarDUANE-552524Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

INQUIRING MINDS want to know just how the Venomous Redhead gets the first post so often? We also want to know why she refuses to answer! Come on Feisty fill us in.

  • 35 votes
#1.81 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatar3thirty3Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I guess we can all see that Feisty Dumb Fux is on the MSLSD or Marxist Barry's payroll. She's almost always the first to post her completely biased and baseless rants or raves. In one post she claims that Obama is not desperate for votes. Now with his latest desperation edict she boldly announces "Thank you for your courage!" This latest revelation is merely a ploy to shore up his eroding Hispanic base. Hell even James Carville is criticizing Obama. I truly believe that if Obama told her to go out into the middle of Times Square, drop her pants, and take a dump she'd do it.

  • 28 votes
#1.82 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

Obama's circumventing of procedure regarding enforcement of the laws on the books is unconstitutional. He doesn't have the authority to authorize breaking the law. I do believe immigration laws need to be updated and amended to address the pressing issues of illegal immigration. The right way to do that is to work with congress to change the laws, not issue an executive authorization to violate the law. Despite the radical partisan divide in the country which has always been present to a degree, no president prior to Obama has failed so miserably to work with congress to effect needed change. We cannot survive another term of his divide and conquer tactics which are tearing the country apart.

  • 43 votes
#1.83 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:59 AM EDT

The day we can walk in other peoples shoes then we should be able to talk... Yes i believe illegal immigrants that have a criminal record should be deported, families that have alot of babies just to ask for wic foodstamps should be deported too because its not fair for us that pay taxes for every single little thing. Taking those benefits away from americans that do not work and sell them should apply also. But there are alot of illegal immigrants that work hard for a living and do report their taxes without a SSN and many students that have degrees but cannot work and that deserve to be here, and they should be given the opportunity to be here and be something in life!!

  • 20 votes
#1.84 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

First of all, this is a matter of prosecutorial discretion. All laws require two main elements: an actus reas (the act) and a mens rea (intent to commit). The feds simply cannot prove mens rea under the criteria cited by the Department of Homeland Security in these cases. A child brought into this country by her parents does not hold the requisite intent to commit the crime. Therefore, she cannot be charged.

What the Obama Administration did here is completely and entirely legal and "constitutional." Anyone thinking otherwise has a lot of learning to do. The OPUS is the executive branch. The executive branch carries out the laws written by the legislative branch (congress). Part of that power involves choosing how best to carry out those laws. In this instance, the executive branch has found a way to better streamline the enforcement of immigration laws. This makes the process more efficient. You would think conservatives would understand and appreciate that. But they really don't seem to.

What I find most interesting about most conservatives is their sense of entitlement. What exactly entitles you to a job you were unable to hold down when someone who came to this country the same way our ancestors did IS capable of holding down that job?

These kids work hard. Is it that you want to be able to continue your lazy approach to your job? Are you afraid that the competition from kids willing to work harder than you is going to cause you to have to put more time and effort into your work? Suck it up. Maybe if you put a little more effort into your work you wouldn't lose your job to kids who come into this country the same way your ancestors did. I am just so sick and tired of you conservative cry babies. You can whine and moan but can't seem to suck it up and compete for jobs with these good, hard-working, clean-cut kids who just so happened to come into this country later than you and your ancestors did.

  • 33 votes
#1.85 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

As a life-long Democrat, this pronouncement to be a despicable act of subversion of federal law, rank pandering, and a patent violation of executive authority. Rewards for immigration lawbreaking and special treatment that is granted (sans Congressional approval) incident to immigration lawbreaking will backfire stupendously in Election 2012!

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE! American citizens and LEGAL immigrants will overwhelmingly find the decision to reward and grant special treatment in exchange for immigration lawbreaking to be a deal-breaker and a breach of national sovereignty!

Excellent post Angelica, even though I am neither a Democrat or a Republican, you pretty much nailed my sentiment on the head. I do definitly lean towrds the right of center, my only left leaning agenda is healthcare. But that is tainted by working out of this country for many years and seeing other healthcare vehicles utilized elsewhere.

  • 29 votes
#1.86 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:04 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDem in Texas-2291575Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

MT,
I totally agree with you, but Bush did the same thing to torture, wire tap and conduct an illegal war. I'll take giving people who work hard, came to the U.S. at a young age and have no criminal records a chance over war death and destruction any day.

And if your stupid, lazy fat a$$ can't compete with someone who speaks English as a second language then you deserve to be unemployed or working at McDonalds.

  • 15 votes
#1.87 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:05 PM EDT
Comment author avatarLosMan123Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What is the matter with all these Doom's day folks! These are children that barely speak Spanish as a whole, that view themselves as American regardless of what you think of them, these are kids that were or are being educated in this country and HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORDS!! This is the only country they view as their own. America needs these kids to come out into the open and continue to be productive members of this society. Americans did not have enough children to cover the expenses that will come from having 20% of today's working population that with in 10yrs will almost all be retired and living off of Social Security and Medicare. WE NEED THESE AMERICANS and your over reactions and prejudice towards these kids is just another example of how republicans and conservatives have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a new century of thinking and a new way of doing things... This is a common sense idea. Shame on you all who oppose!!

  • 21 votes
#1.88 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

For your information...a "real American" is one that works hard and WANTS to be here.

Uuuh, no. A "real American" is one whom signed the guest list and gladly went through the proper channels a la the proud European immigrants during the early 20th century; afterwards, working extremely hard to make a place for themselves and their families.

  • 50 votes
#1.89 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:08 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMike in DelrayExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama saw a 20% drop in support from Black voters just in NC when he came out of the closet on Gay Marriage....he has to replace them......

What gets me is that if your are black and voting for Obama because he's black (1/2 anyway) and think he's got your back, he just gave out 800,000 Work Permits to illegals giving them "the right" to go after jobs that might have otherwise gone to a black person.....These illegals aren't going to be competing for jobs in the "white communities".....but in the Minority Communities all across America....If you're Black, forget about getting a job at Taco Bell, Pollo Tropical, Chipotles, Chilli's, McDonalds...any entry level job.

If you're black in a "low-income" neighborhood and have a job in the corner Bodega...be prepared to be replaced....Obama needs to keep you on the Government Plantation Dole....And is sure you will vote for him anyway...

  • 42 votes
#1.90 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

Here is a point that they surely have not thought about...

When illegal immigrant with work visa decides to disappear to the motherland for 8 months, then returns to no job, what does the illegal immigrant do? File for unemployment!!!!!!

Who will pay for the unemployment? Not f#@King me!!! Have the unemployment fund pool for illegal immigrants with work visas funded by the unemployment taxes of illegal immigrants with work visas. Then, when the funds run out the funds run out.

Also, there are no other benefits that apply for these illegal immigrants with work visas. They have to pay for their Obamacare. They have to pay into their own Medicare and Medicad-type funds with the same scenario - when the funds run out, the funds run out. They are NOT ENTITLED to the same benefits as citizens and DEFINITELY not entitled to benefits FUNDED by citizens.

  • 36 votes
#1.91 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

So instead of 10 young people fighting for a job it will be 20 more fighting for the same job.

Word to Obama - fix our high unemployment FIRST please.

  • 36 votes
#1.92 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

and who will determine at what age young stops?

  • 16 votes
#1.93 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

a "real American" is one that works hard and WANTS to be here.

Uh.. What??

You need to go back and look that up.

I can't just make myself a "Real Surgeon" simply because I'm hard working and "declaring" that I want it. There is a process and set of guidelines you must follow... what in the HELL makes you think you can just make up the rules as you go along?

This man, "Dear Leader", took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution - Epic Fail.

______________________________________________________________

You think the timing of this announcement will flatten the tires on bit on Willard's big bus? lol

Actually, one can flatten tires, or make royal decrees.... or do anything else you darn well please once promoted from elected official to King.

  • 29 votes
#1.94 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatartylerRestored

1.10 deleted, Gingerbread Mamma posting a press release by NETWORK Lobby. Not on-topic and copyright infringement. You're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor.

Plagiarism and copyright infringement will not be tolerated. If you did not write something, do not portray it as your own (use the "blockquote" tag and cite your source by linking to the original content). If you do not have the right to republish the content in question, do not post it to Newsvine.

Lots of on-topic comments restored. Don't report based on disagreement, folks. These weren't restored, obviously:

It's just remarkable that MSNBC has turned their Newsvine over to a pure professional political hack

Feistyfirebush has either got to be a a website administrator for msn or one big loser.

I always thought that Feisty was a paid DNC Troll too.

Fiestyredhead needs to get a job. What a stupid Bi!@h.

John-2006106, toughluv, ToxicChemist, Brian-NOBAMA, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

...

Don't call other Viners shills - never leads to good discussion. If you think someone's violating #2 of the Code of Honor, you can report them using the Contact form under the subject 'Report Spam or Malicious User'.

  • 11 votes
#1.95 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:23 PM EDT
Comment author avatarKrestovRestored

Interesting people want to throw a group of people under the bus who were bought here as minors, who could nit understand teh concept of what was happening and many do no remmebr anyother home. I guess this means compassion is dead.

Also one last thing quit the "anchor baby" myth.

  • 12 votes
#1.96 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

I am a Democrat, and I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR OBAMA in November!!! This is outrageous!!! I will not be voting for Romney either as I don't know what he stands for other than growing the already overcrowded population by trying to do away with legal abortions and giving money to himself and all of his rich friends. I guess I won't be voting in November and take my chances with whatever happens in this country. My next move is to move abroad for awhile until we can remove ALL of the idiots from Washington.

I agree with everyone here who state that illegals need to go. I don't care if they were brought here as children. Let them go live in the homeland of their families where I'm sure their grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., etc. still reside. Too many people wait for a very long period of time to LEGALLY come to this country. Kick out ALL the ILLEGALS, no matter what age they are.

I am totally disgusted here in DC.

  • 42 votes
#1.97 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

I consider this a traitorous act on obama's part. The law is the law and Illegals are illegals..... they're here illegally.... noncitizens taking citizens jobs. Don't you understand those simple concepts obama? I hope to hell that you do not get reelected. What are you thinking? The laws are there for a reason and it's your job to enforce those laws rather than crap on them.

  • 41 votes
#1.98 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

I agree with Obama because realistically there is no way to stop illegal immigration. We can't have border patrols on every inch of the border. Obama is doing the most sensible thing on this issue. Our constitution allows those born here citizenship so we need to change our constitution so illegal immigrants who give birth in our country can't automatically become citizens. This is the best way to help resolve the issue for those kids who have been brought to our country when they were young. I know it doesn't resolve the issue of illegal immigration but at least it's a start. I know the corporate puppets on the right will have a lot to say but that's okay because even if Obama found a cure for cancer, those corporate puppets would blame him for trying to be God. Obama 2012.

  • 26 votes
#1.99 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

When illegal immigrant with work visa decides to disappear to the motherland for 8 months, then returns to no job, what does the illegal immigrant do? File for unemployment!!!!!!

They cannot come back without a job. <sigh> If ever you think you might have come up with an original thought, you should probably check to make sure that thought is "valid" before giving voice to it. A quick check of the INS page would have told you the answer to that fairly quickly.

  • 9 votes
#1.100 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

First he deports them at a rate never seen before now he has another "brain change", or "revelation", WTF! This is a dispicable Bill Daley spin for a re-election bid. And how do you ask it means votes for the President when they are in fact illegal and can't vote? The in-laws that are here legally will vote for Obama so they can keep thier nieces and nephews here. Plus in some states all it takes is a drivers liscense, so if they got immunity and are applying for citizenship they should be able to drive. Y'know drive to work, to Social Security, to the food pantry,etc.

  • 17 votes
#1.101 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Welcome to America, now speeak Spanish! Ya gotta love Democrats, anything for a vote!

  • 36 votes
#1.102 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

This move makes sense to me. We only have limited resources, like it or not, so why pick on babies when there are real bad guys out there? Kudos to the present administration for putting their efforts where they will have the best effect for a better America.

  • 19 votes
#1.103 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDom-462174Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

For all you liberal pukes who want to use the "they are innocent" approach. If my under age child throws a rock at a neighbors home and breaks a window, Aren't i responsible for the damage. If my pet gets out and bites a passer-by, am i not responsible for it's actions?. So, how can you not assign blame to the parents in this case who ILLLEGALLY Brought their ILLEGAL child into the USA and failed to register the proper and legal way. Why should the offspring get a pass for their parents illegal actions?. This is a political pander by the best pander-er in the business. If our government had done their jobs on enforcing immigration over the past decades there wouldn't be a Huge latino block to pander to. We allowed them illegal entry and now they are moving into positions of power, what a disgrace. And oh yeah, WHo is the DUDE sitting next to Obama in the photo?. Another Liberal puke spewer who is forsaking our own NATURALIZED citizens for the future votes of illegals.

  • 45 votes
#1.104 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmguy-478Restored

I dont know if Romney will be any better than Pres Oblame-o.... but I know this, he SURELY CANT BE ANY WORSE!!

Considering that Romney wants to start another war, with Iran this time... and both China and Russia back Iran... if he is successful, we will be thrown into WW3. Add to that the fact that China will call in our debt to them, basically destroying us financially, and you just might be alive to see the end of America.

So yes, it can get worse... MUCH, MUCH WORSE!

So your vote really comes down to: war, or no war.

  • 14 votes
#1.105 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

I would like to see the US use the same kind of immigration laws that are used all over the world. In most countries you must prove that you have an income and trade before you can immigrate. Please don't recite the poem on the base of The Statue of Liberty, when that was written it was a different world. In almost every other country, if you are an illegal you are deported no questions asked.

  • 37 votes
#1.106 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

Can someone explain to me the benefit to having paid for these kids education only to deport them? Let them use the education we gave them to work and pay taxes.

They did not break the law. Their parents did. Being carried over a border at age 3 does not make you a criminal. They have done nothing wrong.

The answer is to firm up the borders and develop a policy that makes sense and can be enforced in regards to people who are already here.

I do not understand the venom for these kids (other than racism.) Their parents broke the law and brought them here illegally. They had nothing to do with it. Even if you do not believe they should be allowed to stay, can you at least not have some compassion for a teenager who was brought here when he was a baby illegally and may have been sent back to a country he has not been to since he was a baby and knows no one. Even if you think this is how it should be, can you not appreciate that this stinks for them and is not their own fault? Calling them names implies that this has a lot more to do with racism than with poilcy.

As far as votes-they cannot vote-so how would this help Obama?

  • 16 votes
#1.107 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

sweetaz,

"This sanctimonious, self righteous approach is flat out disturbing. We are supposed to be nation of compassion, freedom and the American dream...yet all we do is bicker amongst ourselves, stand tall on the backs of others and talk sh^% to anyone that will listen. I am so proud. UGH."

Self righteous, compassion, freedom and the American dream?!!! The issue is NOT what your saying but about the stand of "screw the laws of this country". The laws state illegals are just that - illegal. I would love to see just how liberal your position would be someone stole everything you had or held you up at gun point or if you have children, got them hooked on drugs. I'm betting you wouldn't be so liberal about the laws governing those illegal acts now would you? (These examples are absolutely not equal except for the question of enforcing the law).

  • 10 votes
#1.108 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

When the Obama administration also makes a mandate that for every work permit they grant for an anchor child they will give one to another immigrant who has been on the waiting list for years, THEN I will believe he is trying to create productive American immigrants. Otherwise this is just a way for him to pander to a certain race for votes by abusing his power.

He should be rewarding the people that apply for citizenship the correct way. Instead he is showing these young people that they are entitled to have it handed to them because their parents broke the law. I have yet to hear the child of an illegal immigrant say that they feel fortunate to have been here long enough to have all of us pay for their education while their parents paid no taxes and stole SS#s just so they could get a job.

This isn't "sensible and firm", Barack! This is called letting it slide.... because you say so

  • 23 votes
#1.109 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

Just great- let them stay, let them all stay. While we're at it just drop the border patrol and Coast Guard and let anyone in

  • 20 votes
#1.110 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we wind up having another civil war in this country. God forbid, but decisions like this only fan the flame.

  • 35 votes
#1.111 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

In almost every other country, if you are an illegal you are deported no questions asked.

Other countries are not as dependent on illegal labor as we are. Other countries have not let this issue go for so long where there are now millions of children who are citizens to parents who are here illegally.

To me, there are 2 very different issues. How to stop people from coming here illegally and what to do with those who are already here. The second group poses far more problems.

I agree that we need a policy that can be enforced-but that policy needs to be practical. It needs to take into consideration the people who are already here and what benefit they offer in terms of labor (because they do offer a benefit as evidenced in places where illegal immigrants left and farms went to waste. ) It needs to take into consideration who will raise the children who are citizens if their parents are deported. It needs to take into consideration the money that has been spent educating these kids, and weigh that against the value of sending them back having not recooped one penny of tax income in exchange for that education. It then needs to make sure that no new people come here illegally, and if they do-are dealt with swiftly to end this cycle.

  • 11 votes
#1.112 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarsteve-605134Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So here it is, directly from the ass’s mouth! Come to the United States illegally, get on welfare, SSI. And all the rest of the free bees and vote Democrat!

There is no better way to say it than his party’s symbol. One big Jackass!

  • 36 votes
#1.114 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

uchusky99,

"I do not understand the venom for these kids (other than racism.) Their parents broke the law and brought them here illegally. They had nothing to do with it."

Racism?!! Ya sure. Venom?!! Ya sure. There is one and only one point in contention here - if the parents aren't here, their kids would be here either. That goes for "kids dragged kicking and screaming" across our borders AND anchor babies. The only way for these kids to get the benefits they deserve should be through legal immigration; the very same legal requirement that my ancestors met.

Steve-605,

Oh no - tell me that the democratic party isn't represented by a jackass; both in symbolic and actual terms.

  • 25 votes
#1.115 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

I could stop illegal immigration,the government has to have the will to do it first.

As to Trolls,i always wonder when people seem to show an unquestioning love and support for the president.

Ive been reading a new book,the amatuer,and basically all the people interviewed say Obama dosent have a clue.And is surrounded by other eggheads with no experience. I figured this out when he ran against Hillery.At least she had Bill to lean on.

  • 18 votes
#1.116 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

I guess the neocons really don't watch anything but fake news, or they would have seen some of the news reports and read some of the reports in journals that I have. These are children, who thought they were born here - not sure about you guys but I had very little control over where my parents took me when I was a kid, but heck, the 1% have nannies to make sure they get to the correct places, right? The neocons are just upset that the President addressed this issue (as he should many more very soon) due to the neocon's in the house lack of certain body parts to do it, before they actually did, and you all are coming to realize that rubio is not an hispanic/latino, Cuban's are better than that, don't you know? Realy want to clean up illegal immigration: 1. Do away with wet foot/dry foot - your foot is just as wet in Key West or Miami as it is in Texas, Arizona, or California; 2. Fine big time any employer who employes an illegal; 3. Fine even bigger the person who sells or rents an illegal any property (that includes all those from other countires besides Mexico, just because they are wealthy does not make them good guests!). However, we all know that the neocons would never go for any of that because secretly, they all love that gardner, nanny, cook, or maid. I seem to remember georgie doing something on this order because he said American's would not do the jobs those hispanic immigrants would do, now are you telling me he was wrong (again)? I'm shocked, I tell you, just shocked - NOT! If someone - regardless of where they were born, wants to fight these ugly wars then they sure do deserve to become citizens. This ruling does not guarantee these kids citizenship, not even a path towards it, however, when they are educated and return home then maybe they will be a better friend to us and help us fight those cartels since no one seems to realize the only real way to put the drug cartels out of business is to legalize and control the drug distribution ourselves - no I don't toke, smoke, snort, shoot up, or pop any pills, but I do have a business degree and I know we are spending way too much money on enforcing out of date laws, funding dirty police departments, and loosing the war on drugs when we could legalize, control, and tax it to the point of reducing taxes on the middle class. As for doing things to get votes - look at that new highway, bridge, or anyother bit of pork and tell me your congressman/senator does not do the same thing? Tell me georgie did not jump into the wrong war (Iraq) at the wrong time just to get votes, I'd think you were lying if you do. They all do things to get votes, because if they did not, then no one would vote for them. I sure would not vote for someone who did not do things I thought was the right thing to do - and that states pretty much my reason for never, ever since I was 19 years old and voted in my first election, have never voted for a repugnant - so proud to say, I never voted for tricky dick, arrogant reygun, or any very unintelligent shrub.

  • 18 votes
#1.117 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

I don't care about this as I have no intention of supporting them all with MY TAX DOLLARS ANYWAY.

I am going to quit working and LET OBAMA BUY MY VOTE WITH MORE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE TOO!!!

  • 27 votes
#1.118 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

Give them green cards and voter's registrations and he's got himself a new fan base. We've got enough LEGAL Americans without jobs, why add to the unemployment rolls? There are no words.

  • 22 votes
#1.119 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

This announcement just may be the demise of the Obama campaign. I am a very disappointed Democrat. When will the flow of illegal aliens from the southern border ever stop? We can't let everyone live here and we need to do what we can to help out-of-work AMERICANS get jobs. Letting illegal aliens stay won't help! If Obama loses my vote, it will be solely because of this.

  • 31 votes
#1.120 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

benefits they deserve

??????

  • 11 votes
#1.121 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

OK, Tyler. I won't say bad things about the foul-mouthed, ill-tempered thing.

But how often have you seen that vile woman kick things off with some inflammatory statement, then partake with glee in all sorts of grade-school namecalling and insults?

She gets what she deserves. Yes, she's verbally mistreated regularly, but she brings it on herself by being annoying, infantile, and agressive. She and her counterparts on the right are just two sides of a very filthy coin. And in my opinion, you're a lousy moderator not to take her out to the woodshed for being an instigator. She ruins any chance of actually witnessing a political discussion here on the vine, don't you think?

Oh, and on-topic, despite the political motives for the President's move, I think it is a just and even-handed approach to an issue nobody wants to address. Took a lot of guts. He won't get my vote, but he has my admiration.

Now go ahead and ban me for as long as you like, I'm sure I just violated a number of COH rules.

  • 12 votes
#1.122 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

This is just another outrageous Obama act which Pelosi and Reid applaud. Meanwhile his EPA tightening it's choking grip on more industry with new and improved soot regulations. More regulation without representation.

The symbol of the Democratic party should changed to a python. Its leadership is no longer even slightly representative of who or what America is.

  • 28 votes
#1.123 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

"I AM THE LAW" NO BAMA 2012

  • 39 votes
#1.124 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

To those who remind us that the US is a nation of immigrants, lt me remind you that this country had a native population prior to the "immigration". Where are those native populations now? You are next if this continues.

  • 13 votes
#1.125 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

'Prosecutorial Discretion' is just a fancy phrase for 'The President gets to decide which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore'. Why does this sound a lot like pandering for the Hispanic vote?

'A senior administration official noted that the new rules were not permanent, though, and conceded that a different administration with a different policy could conceivably choose to withdraw this regulation.'

It sounds like a pretty good reason to get a different administration - one that will enforce ALL of our laws.

  • 36 votes
#1.126 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

I've been a Democrat my entire life. I'm damn proud of that.

I have never been more ashamed of a politician from my party. Ever.

I don't care if you're here and you've done absolutely nothing wrong. I don't care if you're here and you're living a productive life. I don't care if you were born here and are getting an education here.

The law is the law. I live in a state where wearing a seat belt is mandatory. My grandparents were killed in a car accident (hit broadside by an ambulance that was speeding, ignoring traffic safety laws and all to get a person with a broken arm - not life threatening injury in the least - to a hospital five minutes faster). My grandmother was wearing her seat belt - my grandfather was not. My grandmother was basically sheared in half because her seat belt offered her no where to go when the force of the ambulance pushed her door over her seat. My grandfather would have survived - he was thrown clear of the car when it was hit - had it not been for the large oak tree that he hit as he was thrown clear.

I won't wear a seat belt. A seat belt is not safe in a side collision - period. The fact that the government has legislated that I wear a "safety" device that is useful in 80% of accidents and a total f-ing hazard in 20% of accidents just torques me off like you wouldn't believe.

When I'm pulled over by a police officer and they hand me a ticket for failing to wear a seat belt - I pay it and never argue the ticket. See... while I don't agree with the law, I recognize that it is the law.

Illegal immigrants are exactly that. Illegal. Their presence in this country is an abomination to every immigrant who came to this country and followed the proper channels to get here. There's no such thing as "slightly illegal". It is - or it isn't. Our laws say that if you're here illegally and you're caught - you get deported back to your country of origin. Arizona has it right.

I agree that the Latino vote is important (every bit as important as the African American vote - or the Asian vote - or the Caucasian vote... you name it). But if Latinos truly are Americans, then they should work to improve the law - not cheer a man on for circumventing it.

I can't stand Mitt Romney or his political belief system - and after this crap, Obama just lost my vote.

  • 46 votes
#1.127 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:01 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBob-1136191Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Fisting Redhead in Roselle, nice to see we finally got you to disappear now that everyone is on to you...Hey, now you can have your cleaning lady out in public!

  • 19 votes
#1.128 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

what most dont know is that non citizens completing of a tour of 4 years become US citizens this has been on the books for a long time. that part of the statement is not really a new change. myself i feel that those who have done service to our country deserve this. the rest of them can be deported IMO.

one more reason for me not to vote for obama come election time and no i am not a republican i am a very liberal independent. he has not done anything he has said he would while in office. he has failed with health care making it a scam so insurance companies can get richer instead of offering a single payer govt system that would really help with the burden of costs. he lied about bringing the troops home as soon he would get into office. he is just a schill for the 1% look at his actions people not his words!

  • 20 votes
#1.129 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

Stateatty, when one takes your job we'll see if you think the same way. What part of illegal don't you get, or is it your intent to open the borders? Entitlements are a conservative thing? Look around brother, I believe what you are seeing are Liberals.

  • 16 votes
#1.130 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

Totally appropriate.

It is not a 9 month old immigrants fault that he/she was brought to America and the family stayed illegally. It is the Fed's fault for keeping the floodgates open and not adequately enforcing US immigration laws, until it was too late. To deport innocent victims to their country, which they have little familiarity, is cruel.

If our government was held accountable and penalized for not performing their duties,this matter may not have gotten out of control.

This is an act of compassion for people who are educated and law abiding. They will pay their taxes and create jobs, not take them away.

  • 15 votes
#1.131 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

For someone who is an "constitutional lawyer," Barry the Vote Buyer doesn't seem to know much about the Constitution of the United States. Executive privilege only goes so far and he passed that limit a long time ago.

The Panderer-in-chief is definitely trying to buy votes. This dramatic FLIP-FLOP on immigration by his paid lapdog Napolitano is trying to buy the vote of every registered, legal voter of Hispanic descent in the country. And notice which states will benefit the most from this policy change: the swing states that have very high percentages of Hispanic voters.

Bless his heart, the Panderer-in-chief must really be getting desparate now. Why doesn't he offer to buy my vote? I'll go cheap: the only I want from him is a guarantee that he will announce that he is dropping off the face of the earth sometime later today. Tomorrow will NOT be soon enough.

If all you folks want to continue to watch what used to be our great nation sold out and flushed down the toilet some more, go ahead and vote for him in November. I plan on making my vote count for something, though, and that is making him another one-term, tax-and-spend, lying, cheating Democratic president.

  • 26 votes
#1.132 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:10 PM EDT
craig1955Deleted

wlee

when one takes your job we'll see if you think the same way

If you lose your job to an illegal then YOU are a complete failure. I refuse to have any sympathy for a worthless, pathetic American whose only value is swinging a hammer. They have failed in life, they have no value, and I will not feel sorry when someone takes away their pathetic job. Go get an education and make yourself a valuable member of society... otherwise you deserve what you get.

  • 5 votes
#1.134 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

Our president obviously had a brainstorming session with his advisors. Their political world is falling apart and this 'really good idea' to get votes came up.

First it was bowing and apologizing. Now it's groveling...

  • 17 votes
#1.135 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

No one's thinking about the good things to come of this. ONE- taxes to be paid by those who haven't been paying taxes. TWO-the farmers who have lost entire crops because they had no one left to take care of them. THREE- there are some VERY smart and motivated teens and young adults who were raised in this country who could contribute a great deal to this country if they had the chance. This isn't about "opening the gates" it's about dealing with those who are already here. Who knows how long this will last, but someone had to do something for those kids lingering in limbo and it was a responsible move.

  • 13 votes
#1.136 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

but someone had to do something for those kids lingering in limbo and it was a responsible move.

Precisely!

  • 10 votes
#1.137 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

I guess all of you fools that keep the spouting "these are children" talking points didn't notice that it only applies to those that came to this country BEFORE the age of 16 and are younger than 30? I don't consider somebody between the ages of 16 and 30 to be a "child."

  • 17 votes
#1.138 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

Sue-weeet! Way to go Mr. President!

Bwahahahahahahahaha (diabolical laugh) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's the way to energize the Latino vote! You are smarter than the average bear, to quote Yogi (Bear).

BWAHAHAHAHAAHA!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 5 votes
#1.139 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

Dom, this is strickly for you. The reason you can't or shouldn't hold the children responsible for their parents sin is because they are separate human beings that had no control over the actions of their parents. Would you recommend putting children in prison when their fathers break the law. Same difference, if you hold immigrant children responsible for their parents mis-deeds, then the children of American drug dealers should go to jail also???

  • 10 votes
#1.140 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Young illegal immigrants = New Obama Voters

  • 18 votes
#1.141 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

Good lord. I have a cousin who's wanted to come to the US since forever. She's been taking a ton of english classes and doing her visa research. The problem is, if she gets denied, she'll probably never get in. And now Obama is handing out work visas "if they get in when they're young"?

Agreed with the person early on who said this sucks for people going through the proper channel.

  • 27 votes
#1.142 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

Napolitano wrote that immigrants who were illegally brought to the United States as children "lacked the intent to violate the law," and pose few national security risks.

Lacked the intent? REALLY? So if I didn't intend to break a law I can't be prosecuted for breaking it... even if I really did break it? THAT IS BS!

"I didn't INTEND to break the speed limit officer... really. So you can't ticket me!"

"I didn't INTEND to run that stop sign... really. So you can't ticket me!"

"I didn't INTEND to murder that person... really. So you cant execute me!"

HAhahahah! Try any one of those and see how far it gets you! You would be ticketed and sitting in the electric chair before you know it.

INTENT! Indeed!

THE LAW IS THE LAW! IF YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL ALIEN... YOU ARE ILLEGAL! GET IT MR. (eh hum) PRESIDENT?

  • 32 votes
#1.143 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

Spencer-399802

Coming here illegally is the only crime you can commit, and legally hand down the benefits to your kids.

This is buying democrat votes, plane and simple.

This is not buying THIS Democrat's vote! I am a life-long Democrat and Obama LOST my vote because of this decision! I'm so mad about it that I am red in the face!

  • 21 votes
#1.144 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

The only way for these kids to get the benefits they deserve should be through legal immigration; the very same legal requirement that my ancestors met.

I don't disagree that it is unfair for people to come here illegally and get the same benefits as people who did so legally. I am questioning how to implement this in a practical system.

"Anchor babbies" as you called them are American citizens. Nothing you can do about them unless the law changes-and even then, all that are here will still be here. They cannot be denied rights as they, like it or not, were born American Citizens.

These kids did nothing wrong. Their parents did. They have broken no laws. We have paid to educate them. In reality, being as we are not so good at deporting people who are here illegally anyway-we have 2 choices...

Let them work legally-meaning they will not be paid under the table and will pay taxes. Or, have them stay here illegally until they have a baby who is a citizen and then we look the other way. They may be caught and deported before that happens, which is unlikley, but still will then require a trial (paid for by the tax payers.)

Option 1 makes the most sense from a practical standpoint to me-followed by a swift changing of laws to deal with how to approach those who are already here and prevent, for real, more from coming in.

Again, the hatred shown on here for these kids is nothing but racism-as they did nothing wrong. Their parents did. Perhaps you feel they should not be allowed to stay-fine. But at least appreciate that they are in a bad situation of their parent's, and not their own, making. Have a little compassion for what they are going through even if you don't believe they should stay.

  • 9 votes
#1.145 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

In an effort to demonstrate that he is a "job creator" President Obama announced on Friday that the DHS would no longer seek the deportation of most young illegal immigrants, and would instead allow them to apply for work permits. This raises the number of work permits made availabe to illegal alien, through DHS policy shifts in the last year to 1.1 million. When asked how this action would help America's unemployed the President responded "I already bought the votes of America's unemployed when I signed legislation to increase unemployement benefits in February. This policy shift is to placate and pander to hispanic voters who called me out earlier for breaking my 2008 promise to them regarding immigration reform."

  • 12 votes
#1.146 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

Call Pres. Obama NOW at 202-456-1111 and tell him that you are outraged that he announced an Executive Amensty for millions of illegal aliens against the will of Congress!

Constitutionally-Challenged Administration Unleashes Amnesty Fraud Machine

SHAME ON BARRACK KARDASHIAN OBAMA! SHAME! This is illegal. We do not live in a dictatorship. Immigration policy is only made by Congress.

  • 21 votes
#1.147 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

A senior administration official said in a conference call with reporters that as many as 800,000 undocumented immigrants stand to benefit from this change.

I sure hope Obama intends on paying for all of this out of HIS pocket. Not only taking Jobs from REAL americans, and giving them to illegals, now were going to have to pay for these guys welfare as well.

I wish there was still new land to discover, and new America that was like ours of the past.

  • 13 votes
#1.148 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

"I didn't INTEND to break the speed limit officer... really. So you can't ticket me!"

Can you not see the difference between this and a baby or child being brought over the border by their parents? Really?

These kids are not here because they chose to be. They are here because their parents brought them here illegally. Can you not see the HUGE difference?

  • 8 votes
#1.149 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

Feisty: First, you are so being paid by the Dems. They forced her response through first because they wanted it to look positive in his favor.

Copper: Research work visas and also anchor babies. Better yet get an education.

If anybody votes for Obama because of this then YOU are an IDIOT! See through this farce of his! He deported more Hispanics than any other president and all of a sudden he is making an about-face??? He doesn't care about you! He wants to be reelected and that is it! Caring about Gays??? Get real!! Use some intelligence and get the ploy already! I will now vote Romney all because I want a firmer stance on ILLEGAL immigration not rewards for parents bringing their kids over (AND trust me, IT WILL BE WORSE NOW). It will give families more reason to bring them over YES, Illegally! I don't blame the kids but how about only passing it on to current HS illegals because YOU have NO clue if a 30 yr old was here as a child. No more Anchor babies and give ALL illegals LESS incentives to come here, NOT MORE! You are not helping our country. I'm for SELF-Deportation!! No reason to be here, no freebies, no schooling, NOTHING and they will leave! Come here legally and I welcome you. Not until then.

  • 17 votes
#1.150 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

You weren't going to vote for Obama anyway, give me a break.

Obama just rallied his base, and polarized the Republican base. The Latino vote is now firmly in the hands of Obama.

Independents will love this !!!!!

It's work permits for kids brought over here through no fault of their own. About time there is some justice in this.

If Republicans want immigration reform then get it through the Congress.

  • 11 votes
#1.151 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

The republicans and racists on this vine would prefer people become citizens like Rupert Murdoch did, by buying it. Is that what it means to be American for you? It's not about someone who wants to be American, has been here for years with no way of establishing residency outside of a major life decision like marriage or having a child. No, for the republicans it's about buying citizenship so you can own a media outlet. That's what American citizenship is, a piece of paper you can buy, or at least that is what the republicans would like it to be.

  • 10 votes
#1.152 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

Well since Obama is already ignoring a good portion of the INS laws what makes you think that any illegal is going to obey any of the laws?

With all of the young American citizens without jobs and him claiming that he has been working on improving the job situation for American citizens this does nothing to make me believe that he cares about our young citizens. That is 800,000 jobs that could go to our young citizens. I don't care if these illegals already have jobs, they have them illegally if they don't have a work visa. It is time that we worried about Americans first. Let them leave and apply to come here the legal way.

As for these kids having come here the same way as my ancestors have, you are 100% wrong. My ancestors came here legally. They had to have a job, have a place to live and they had to have a sponsor. They came through Ellis Island as was required. They had to assimilate to the English language. No-one requested that everything must not only be in English, but it must be in their native language too. Our forefathers chose English (over others) as the language of the United States of America, learn it, just like our ancestors had to. They are nothing like my ancestors, these people feel that they are entitled to just walk right in and do whatever they want and that we are supposed to sit back and let them do it. It is against the law and if they get caught they should pay the price. I am sick of listening to people that excuse illegals state that speeding is against the law but most people do it. If I am speeding I know that I am breaking the law and I also know that if I get caught I will pay the price and that is the way that it should be.

  • 16 votes
#1.153 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

Nothing about our Constitution has gotten in the way of Obama, why should anyone expect any other law would matter to him as well? Obama is just making it up as he goes along, too bad he wasn't doing it on a video game like Minecraft or Simms. It is funny that no congressional obstacle can stand in his way for something like amnesty, but when it comes to fixing the economy he can't get around those Republicans in the House. Seems as if Obama can find a way to get anything done he feels benefits his re-election, so you might assume he hasn't actually proposed anything he wants to pass since using it as blame appears to be his intent.

  • 17 votes
#1.154 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

Feisty, and all you Feisty Followers, you are so off the mark. Your admiration for the marxist POTUS should be an embarrassment to you as you endorse any political move he makes as a step toward "progress"... but that's his, and your agenda, is it not? Progress toward income and wealth distribution; progress toward a world currency; progress toward open borders; progress toward a nation mired so deeply in debt that our future generations are already bankrupt....
Maybe you could express and explain some of those progressive goals instead of posting snarky slaps at your perceived 'enemies'... let's see you do some intelligent analysis of why illegal kids should reap the benefits of citizenship simply because they were transported across the border by their parents. Tell us why the workers and taxpayers of this country should support the efforts of illegal immigrants of any nationality. Tell us why they should receive unemployment benefits, free health care, a free education.... Tell us how we're going to pay for your progressive agenda! Tell us, Feisty, if you can do so without smearing your comments with fecal matter. Please DO tell us!

  • 14 votes
#1.155 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

nomoresameo said:

If this is what the president and the administration wants fine if they take it one step further. If a person is here illegally and has meet those requirements and is under age 21, they probably are living with parents who are also here illegally. So, the person under 21 should have to disclose who they live with and if they are indeed illegal and they also meet all of the new requirements (lived here 5 years or more/no criminal record, they would then have 12 months from identification to pass a test that proves they can effectively read/write/speak English. If they are able to pass that test, have active employment and a desire to stay, they would become U.S. citizens.

Okay, and by that definition, where would I have been in that equation?

I was adopted internationally as an infant by a Vietnam vet and his wife who died suddenly in a car accident before telling me I'd been adopted. 18 years after my adoption, USCIS does a routine record search and finds they have lost/misplaced my adoption paper. When they come to me asking for my papers, I had no idea what they were talking about and so I was detained as 'illegal'.

Under the criteria you mentioned, at the time ICE came looking for me:

I was living alone, both parents having died in a car accident ten months ago

I had no idea I was 'illegal' because my birth certificate had both my parents names on it--it is customary one a child has been adopted that the adoptive parents get a legal birth certificate for the adopted child with them listed as the child's parents, and the judge will only grant that if they have seen a legal adoption decree. When my parents obtained this paperwork they submitted both the adoption decree, my BC, and my SS number. The adoption paper was the only missing item.

I had school records since Pre-K and my parents tax records for the last five years prior to their deaths that could prove I was their dependent.

I had no criminal record, had just graduated private high school on the honor roll and had a scholarship to an art college to become police sketch artist;

Would have passed the English test easily since no other languages were spoken in the house, though I had tutoring in both French and Spanish

Did not have active employment, having just graduated high school not yet gotten a job

Did want to stay.

So since I didn't fulfill all those criteria you mentioned above, I should not be considered a candidate for citizenship? Even considering that Id been considered a citizen for 18 years of my life nd the only reason I was declared 'illegal' was because USCIS lost a piece of paper?

Make a change to the wording of the 14th amendment. Change the wording so that no one is granted U.S. citizenship simply by being born in this country unless: both parents of the child born in the U.S. are current U.S. citizens.

Okay, what about a child born overseas to a member of the military on deployment or stationed at an overseas base? The serviceman applies for a visa for a woman he met and married overseas, brings her here, and while she's waiting for her paperwork to be processed she gives birth. The child is born here, father is military, mother is visa/green card/permanent resident. So that child should NOT be considered a US citizen and not eligible for it ever even if the mother becomes naturalized later?

Or what if the serviceman met and married a woman overseas, married her overseas, she dies and leaves him her child? The child would then not be a citizen because the mother was not a citizen, and could never be considered for citizenship because the mother is dead?

And what about adopted children? Or foundlings--infants abandoned at churches, hospitals, orphanages under the Safe Harbor law whose biological parents didn't bother to leave a birth certificate, or the birth was not documented? You don't know if the parents were citizens or not. What would you like to do with those children?

Did you think about case like these when you came up with your plan?

  • 9 votes
#1.156 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

Hey kids Still think Obama is "cool"?

Remember that when your high school is overcrowded with non-English speakers, when you are trying to get into college, when you are trying to get a job, when you are renting a crappy apartment in a run-down neighborhood... 1 million of you just got displaced and signal has been sent o the world load and clear "The Floodgates are Open!!!" American Democrats are giving the country away.

  • 23 votes
#1.157 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

NO MAS "JUS SOLI".

  • 1 vote
#1.158 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

To Micheal O'Brien...the author of this article

Go back to school and try and get a degree in something like journalism or english you moron!

Obama administration won't seek deportation of young illegal immigrants

For one thing, they aren't necessarily young. That cavaet wasn't put into Obama's amnesty plan. Next, they aren't "illegal immigrants". they are either immigrants (who came here legally) or criminal illegal aliens.

They are not "undocumented workers"...they are criminals, law breakers and not entitled to the same rights as the citizens of this country.

Why are you even employed Mr. Obrien? MSN can't find a single person that can write better than this drivel?

  • 10 votes
#1.159 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

An illegal alien who receives this "amnesty" will never be respectable.

They don't earn respect this way......this illegal way.

ONLY CONGRESS can legally make immigration policy.

  • 11 votes
#1.160 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

This is not vote pandering.

Can someone please explain how illegal immigrants will be able to vote for Obama?

In four months, there will be a federal election. That is not enough time for these exempted immigrants to gain citizenship and the privilege to vote.

  • 7 votes
#1.161 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

@ rico-3714896,

I agree it's not just Mexican's coming here to have children there are plenty of other countries also. STOP the Anchor Babies. They can apply for citizenship just like our relatives before us did or we did. Another thing what is to stop parents from using their kids SSN or their child’s Work Visa from abusing the system still? Why make it less than 30 years old, that's a little excessive if you ask me?

  • 4 votes
#1.162 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

This is nothing but trying to build some type of base that might get the jerk re-elected. Oh he made me illegal-no-more....even though he trounced the hell out of the Constitution. Heck I bet he will hand me money for doing nothing and have everyone pay for me to get an education. Dang think I will vote for him. So blatently apparent and so sad that our democracy and country has been degraded to this level - that a sitting President has to stoop to the tricks and bull that this one has. It is an embarassment to watch him bow to leaders of other countries and to run over the Constitution. If I sat through one of his Constitutional law classes I think I would be getting a refresher - because he apparently fits into the category of not understanding the subject matter that he was teaching. In fact I think I would ask for a refund on the class no matter how long ago.

  • 4 votes
#1.163 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

I truly believe that if Obama told her to go out into the middle of Times Square, drop her pants, and take a dump she'd do it.

3thirty3, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. You know the rules.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

  • 4 votes
#1.164 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

@Dem in Texas

If you bring in at least $500,000 and create at least 20(?) jobs in the US economy, you are automatically granted citizenship.

  • 1 vote
#1.165 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

@ uchusky - We are not that dependent on Illegal labor, in contrast, the vast majority of them we could do without. Other than seasonal migrant workers, (since American kids are too lazy to do that job anymore,) we don't need any of them. Our unemployment %'s would be much better if they went home. Even a minimum wage job would ease the burden of worker's comp benefits being paid, let alone for those who've lost their benefits because they've been unemployed too long. The dynamics of the American economy have changed, we need all of our jobs for Americans FIRST!

@ Everyone else, this is only the first step. After Obama lets all the Illegal young adults stay, then they will stop deporting their parents, "because they can't break up a family." Yea right! Any way you look at this, it is wrong. It is wrong for those who went to the effort to apply for citizenship through LEGAL channels. It is wrong for all those sitting on the unemployment line, who would like to have their job. It is wrong for the rest of us, as we have paid for their welfare and schooling, while the parents didn't pay taxes. We are not a charity. And I think the saying "Charity starts at home" applies here. Stop giving Illegals anything.... they are costing the US govt. billions each year, and are also sending billions out of the country to their relatives, money that could have helped our economy and could have been used by Americans.

  • 9 votes
#1.166 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

So Mr. President,

If I who was born here break the law you would put me in jail, but if a person breaks the law and trespasses into this country illegally then you will not only press charges but you will reward them. It is beginning to look more and more like being an illegal is a great thing because they get deported if they commit another crime, and for the crime of trespassing they get a path to citizenship. Great message you are sending our children, break the law and if it is politically expedient for me then I will reward you, but if you are not then screw you. You just lost my vote along with the whole democratic party, and if a republican supports this then they will lose my vote too. It is time we shut our boarders, tell the people they have thirty days to leave or be forced to leave, if we catch you crossing illegally we will shot. If you want to come here, my grandparents were immigrants, my wife came here at three months old, but they all came here legally and so should everyone else. To grant any type of amnesty to anyone for breaking the law sends the wrong message.

  • 13 votes
#1.167 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:02 PM EDT
Comment author avatarCarol Emoryvia Facebook

Amanda proves my point. We cannot come up with a blanket solution to this problem, and Obama is reckless for making this announcement. This has been and should always be a case by case basis. Not everyone is here illegally for a hand out or to find easy tax free work. Some are here because they are escaping torture, illegal imprisonment or being killed. The idea of "send everyone back and let God sort it out" may make you seem like a loyal American, but it also makes you look like an ignorant human being.

  • 2 votes
#1.168 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

Tbenton:

To grant any type of amnesty to anyone for breaking the law sends the wrong message.

What law did an infant break?

  • 5 votes
#1.169 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

More human bodies, more problems, more taxes for the middle class, more crime and less and less quality of life for all. More crowding, more pollution and at a time when, each day, we lose more of our share of the natural Earth in this nation. More houses, more roads, more freeways and more pressures on our only life-support systems or our natural and wild ecosystems, all the reasons mankind breathes.

While many in the middle class are not having children because they can't afford them, we transport breeders into our nation that, with tax support, will breed excessively. This isn't a race issue. This is a basic common sense issue. This nation doesn't need more and more hordes of humans and more deterioration of quality of life for every American.

The more and more equate to the less and less for all! This nation should not be the golden door.

  • 9 votes
#1.170 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

Great post Tony (1.154) You have asked some questions that deserve an answer. It has been my experience however that "Feisty and Friends" are not interested in civil discourse but would rather name call as to why you don't agree with them. I asked several simple questions myself the other day of Feisty, Seeking Sanity, GT and was accused of running and hiding when challenged. Don't expect too much.

  • 9 votes
#1.171 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

Nancy's red Diaper Doper Baby said:

And how do we verify citizens if states aren't allowed to aske for ID because apparently minorities lack to wherewithal to acquire photo IDs (so says the liberals). If you think only citizens are voting you're extremely naive. Kind of like how I used to think that only citizens could get tax returns.

At the recent DOJ hearing into the 'Papers, please' last proposed by AZ and similar states, a representative from Homeland Security stood up and said that there is no way for Homeland Security to verify that you are indeed a citizen except through the passport registration system.

If you have to be a citizen to vote, and citizenship can only be proved by having a passport,how many US citizens have a passport?

The State Dept says 117 million people the US have US passports. That's 38% of the US population of 312 million. What happens to the other 64%?

  • 5 votes
#1.172 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

They are here among us, and have been. They are often exploited and abused by employers, and especially law enforcement and court systems. The president has committed Himself to the right first step of the right thing to do. Contrary to those who use them as a convenient basis of support in their expressions of wrong headed self rightousness, these people mostly are among America's best. They most assuredly give much more to the country than they require from it. I welcome this news, and with a joyous heart, I welcome these good people.

  • 6 votes
#1.173 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

Obama is a traitor of our country and should be impeached! He clearly hates America and everything it has and does stand for. Leave it to a South Chicago thug to embrace the criminal!

He's a complete failure as President and an American (if he even is one!)

averon1 said:

Ok Feisty today's the day you answer my question: How are you almost always the first poster on the political stories?

Because she has absolutely no life or anything to do (probably on the dole) or she works for MSNBC or the DNC as she clearly spouts nothing but leftie talking points and twisted "facts". Either, they are one in the same.

So she may be the first, but nobody with half a brain should or does pay any attention to her but her leftie comrades as she only spouts the crap and twisted commentary that is put our on MSNBC, CNN, NPR and all other broadcast and print main stream media.

If everyone just ignores her, she would go away! I mean, she may still get the first post off, but the only one's she'll be chatting with are other "takers"!

  • 12 votes
#1.174 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

mguy, it's nice to know you have your fellow Americans back! BTW if you are implying my being a hammer pounding worthless American, the same people who built your house, the stores you shop at I'd be proud to be a member. Although I have pounded nails at one time, I currently have a degree in electronics and work at a University, but do feel superior to talk down to your fellow Americans. There's a word for people like you ,but the Honor Code prevents me from using it.

  • 7 votes
#1.175 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

Hello i am the child of legal immigrants!!!!!

I am Hispanic

Obama is wrong!

If my parents can do it so can others!

Obama is also making his own laws and disregarding the constitutional checks and balances!

i am 1 of 40% of Latinos that do not support this would be tinpot dictator

  • 21 votes
#1.176 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

mguy-478

wlee

when one takes your job we'll see if you think the same way

If you lose your job to an illegal then YOU are a complete failure. I refuse to have any sympathy for a worthless, pathetic American whose only value is swinging a hammer. They have failed in life, they have no value, and I will not feel sorry when someone takes away their pathetic job. Go get an education and make yourself a valuable member of society... otherwise you deserve what you get.

Better watch out, my friend....someone with an H1-B visa might be waiting in the wings to take YOUR "valuable" job - for half the pay

I sincerely hope that happens to you...we'll all have a big laugh when it does

  • 7 votes
#1.177 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

tyler @ 1.63: I love it. You suspend someone for one nasty comment and yet the person their talking about can constantly make horrible statements about anyone that disagrees. Give me a break, you are nothing but the liberal Gestapo.

  • 14 votes
#1.178 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

wow!!! whats next tax-breaks for hiring illegals

  • 19 votes
#1.179 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

LONG overdue move! Waiting for the Republicans in Congress to stop kowtowing to the extremists who now dominate the party, and who constantly embarrass and make a mockery of what this country stands for, has been a wasted effort. Well done Mr. President! No one but the haters wants these kids deported back to countries they don't even remember and had no say in leaving. It sends EXACTLY the right message.

  • 6 votes
#1.180 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

Boy the censors at MSNBC are working in overdrive to clean up after their furor to day aren't they?

I've never seen so many comments and entire threads removed just for pointing out the patheticness of Obamas actions.

  • 18 votes
#1.181 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

Considering that Romney wants to start another war, with Iran this time... and both China and Russia back Iran... if he is successful, we will be thrown into WW3. Add to that the fact that China will call in our debt to them, basically destroying us financially, and you just might be alive to see the end of America.

*cough*fear-mongering*cough* Realy, you dont need war to kill them all, send send a couple hundred drones in LMAO... But realy, you have got to be kidding me... Both Russia and China are scared to death of us, they would not be able to stop us from turning Iran into glass(cluster/napalm, not nukes)...

ANYWAY, this 'new' policy is just stupidity, learn how to not trust your political advisors and you may just win... NOT, you've already gone too far...

  • 4 votes
#1.182 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

This is facetious. President Obama is at the same time, using the Justice Department's authority to make certain that no voter registration law is used to prohibit illegal aliens from voting in the Presidential elections, and the 'firm and sensible enforcement' President Obama has practiced for the last 2 years is a 'firm and inane' resolution to refuse to enforce immigration laws and a 'firm and inane' declaration to INS to cease all enforcement actions. He no longer has US citizens to vote for him, so now he's pandering to the illegal vote he expects from illegal aliens. E.g., “Absent extraordinary circumstances or the requirements of mandatory detention, field office directors should not expend detention resources on aliens who are known to be suffering from serious physical or mental illness, or who are disabled, elderly, pregnant, or nursing, or demonstrate that they are primary caretakers of children or an infirm person, or whose detention is otherwise not in the public interest.” Morton, Assistant Secretary U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Jun 30, 2010) MEMORANDUM Policy Number: 10072.1, FEA Number: 601-14 ¶ C
at p. 3

  • 3 votes
#1.183 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

At first glance, this sounds like a good idea from Obama. I would like to compare this plan with Rubio's to see how similar they are.

I do think the Republicans have their head in the sands about illegal immigration. The current system is broken and changes are needed. Just saying people should obey the law isn't good enough when it can take over 10 years to get into the US legally.

After all, almost all of our ancestors were immigrants.

  • 3 votes
#1.184 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

John 2006106 re: post #1.44

I totally agree with you.

  • 1 vote
#1.185 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPigotryExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Why have the Republicans tried very hard to show that they are such pigots ...at every turn?

  • 5 votes
#1.186 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

I have often tried to point out in my comments that President Obama is not a king, nor a dictator, emperor, despot, autocrat, monarch or potentate. Considering President Obama's apparent ability to consistently circumvent the Legislative Branch of the United States, I only have one thing to say...

I stand corrected.

What's happening to America? If you're not scared yet, you should be.

  • 13 votes
#1.187 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

It is a shame that President Obama having relatives illegal immigrants , push for law that is going to help his non-Law Abiding relatives. Where is his example rewarding the wrong pople. 35 % of unemployment in the young African American group, and Obama for political gain, just before the hispanic conference, make Dictatorial desitions. Shame on him, shame on the people that support this aberration, This is an insult to all the legal immigrants like my relatives , who came here using the proper channels and observing the law not jumping the fence like criminals in the middle of the night.

  • 4 votes
#1.188 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

Didn't hear anyone complain when Bush, McCain, Rubio, Baber all wanted pretty much the same and more!

Pants on fire and your pants on the ground......

Still waiting for repubs to show us birth certificates for corporations.....Mitt and repubs say corporations are people too. Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers, tell that to wounded and dying soldiers and their families....Soldiers bleed red blood, corporations can only bleed red ink when destroyed by Mistter!

  • 4 votes
#1.189 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

And we wonder why red blooded Americans can't find jobs.
Too funny....except it's very sad.

Let's just give our country away.

  • 5 votes
#1.190 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

Is this the right thing to do for American workers?!?
NO!
NO!

Call Pres. Obama NOW at 202-456-1111 and tell him that you are outraged that he announced an Executive Amensty for millions of illegal aliens against the will of Congress! (If the comment line is not working, please call the White House switchboard at 202-456-1414.)

  • 6 votes
#1.191 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

All Honesty this is US getting some of our TAX dollars back. If one would think past Mexican on this issue. They would see that WE helped pay for these kids education. Some are in College. Some have Graduated college. Some will become Doctors And Nurses. And you all just want to send them home now. Talk about not getting a return on investment.

This is the same as letting Visa holders work for Places like INTEL and taking our Technology secrets back to China and INDIA. The people the President is talking about are the ones who will benefit our society. I don't see the FEAR you all see. Yes deport the Drug dealers. Yes convict those who are breaking the law.

Remember Reagan gave Amnesty. November 6th 1986 was the date. Wolves come in sheep's clothing. Like the republicans are. They are no threat out in the open.

  • 4 votes
#1.192 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

Borders - Enforce immigration law, or change it, don't pick and choose which laws you want to follow.

Language - Make English the National Language, all official government documents must be in English

Culture - Our Constitution and Bill of rights.

Don't agree with those three things? Pretty simple if you ask me.

  • 6 votes
#1.193 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

Other than seasonal migrant workers, (since American kids are too lazy to do that job anymore,) we don't need any of them.

But you agree that they have a value to seasonal migrant labor. Would you agree to a visa that allowed them to work here legally to do these jobs? The greater benefit of doing so is that we will now be able to collect tax money from them.

The reason every administration-republican and democrat- has turned a blind eye to this (other than politics) is that solutions bring up more questions.

If we were to deport everyone who is here illegally, who would raise the children who are American Citizens? We don't want to have all of these kids in foster care, so we let the parents stay-but we can't make that an official rule because then everyone would do it. So, we turn a blind eye instead.

If we deport everyone who is here illegally, who will perform migrant farm labor? Our economy needs this, and even is very hard times-Americans have not been willing to do it for wages farmers can afford to pay. If farmers have to pay Americans, the price for their goods would go up so much, they could not sell anything when competing against other countries' produce.

If we deport everyone who is here illegally, we have wasted a lot of money educating kids who will never pay taxes. So many people are talking about the 800,000 jobs. It would also be 800,000 new taxayers. 800,000 people spending money to create new jobs. If we send them back, we get nothing on our investment.

I agree that we need stricter policies moving forward, but the people who are here pose a lot of problems that the "kick them all out" believers do not have practical solutions for. I do not believe that pretending that this is not a problem is the answer, but we need to recognize that different answers are needed for future immigrants and those who are already here illegally.

Perhaps a pathway to legality could involve service to the country. Either in the military or other service. If these young men and women who came here because their parents brought them as children entered the military for a year, would people feel they "earned" the right to be here legally?

What if their wages were docked more for taxes on the pathway.

There are answers, but we need to stop the "kick them all out" rhetoric to find the practical solutions.

  • 4 votes
#1.194 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

Fiesty 1st? This column has been updated this afternoon but:

Fiesty #1 at 10:15 am.

Free Market Fx #2 at 10:15am

Job1 #3 at 10:18am

NoJoe, No bo... 2.1 #4 at 10:19 am

Rico... 1.1 #5 at 10:31 am

Dick-227... 3.1 #6 at 10:33 am

To those wondering how Fiesty comes in first, how come I only count 6 comment in the first 15 minutes. Kinda makes the collapsing crowd a little slow out of the gate. Kudos to Fiesty.

  • 2 votes
#1.195 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Try telling a cop that you didn't see that stop sign. And the old "But if you deport them it will break up families" or "But they obeyed the law fine since they've been here" excuse doesn't wash either. Hey,If I break the law and get locked up, should I expect the courts to give a s**t about my family? No! Tough cookies! I shouldn't have broken the law! Illegal is illegal. Not much left to interpret here. Its a simple word. Illegal. Look it up.

There is an even more obvious and forgotten issue here. The president and other lawmakers are seeming to forget that we are really actually a nation of laws. And when they were elected or hired to their jobs,they stood there with their right hand raised and the other hand on a bible and swore to and before God and the citizens of this country to protect and defend the constitution and the laws of this country! Therefore,any action that any of them partake in that violates or promotes violation of any of our laws or our constitution should be deemed a breach of public trust and a violation and dereliction of their offical duty. Weather they be a president,senator,congressman,attorney general,or a cop on patrol. Whatever. When they ignore the laws that they were trusted and sworn to enforce, they should be automatically be thrown out of office. They took an oath. They made a promise to the people of this country. If they break it,they go. No debate. No vote. They took an oath and they broke it. They are fired! Period! Let's see how much political pandering these idiots do if that rule is ever enforced!

  • 5 votes
#1.196 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

This president just proved what a low life scum bag MF he is and that he will do anything for some illegal votes.

Shame on you, America, to allow garbage like this to run the show.

What are you people let him get away with next???

  • 3 votes
#1.197 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

I'm on the border, too. Arizona! This is not good news for us considering we are constantly chasing down illegals who bring their offspring here. How do you prevent this? How will you know whose been here or who just crawled out from under the rocks? I don't want to dislike this group of people but the politicians are throwing in our faces that they are favoring them above all others...above those whose ancestors helped create and shape this country or those who come here, follow the rules, pay money and stand proudly in front of a flag to join forces with us tooth and nail because it took that much to become a citizen. There were things our own parents did that may not be the fault of the child but do you think there was any leniency if that happened? No!!!!!!!! If you went to another country, namely Mexico, will you get the same treatment? Now people from all over the world has seen how a person, who is supposed to be our leader kowtow to a bunch of people who have blatantly invaded our land. All this did was make the American people even more angry and thinking the people in Syria may have had the right idea because your GOVERNMENT DOESN'T LISTEN!

  • 9 votes
#1.198 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

So 700,000+ illegals will now be allowed to take the jobs of recent legal high school and college graduates. What a farce and a phony this guy is. The Anti Christ! He's going to take this country down. Problem is, I don't think Mitt is the answer either.

  • 7 votes
#1.199 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

So a new President takes office on January 21, 2013 and revokes this 'Executive Order', and then what happens to those illegal immigrants that have been given work permits to compete with legal American workers for the few jobs available? That's why a truly bipartisan immigration bill needs to be passed by Congress. Interestingly, the only 'Immigration Reform' bill that has passed in recent memory was crafted by a Republican President (Reagan) working with a Democratic Congress - in 1985.

Nothing but chaos - and just to pander for the Hispanic vote.

If the Hispanics want a TRUE immigration reform bill, they might want to consider voting for Romney - then they might get a PERMANENT fix, not this nonsense which will likely be rescinded in 7 months.

  • 5 votes
#1.200 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

Feisty...if your trolling extremely-left-biased head was any farther up the President's backside, you could kiss Michelle on the lips.

  • 6 votes
#1.201 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

I'll probably get suspended too but here goes.

"I am Barrack Hussein Obama your beloved king and dictator, today I am declaring that illegals can legally vote for me." "Who said something about congress, I don't need congress, I am the king."

  • 8 votes
#1.202 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

Actually If the Republicans would get off their duffs and. Start writing some legislation that would fix Immigration, create jobs here at home (infrastructure). And the like maybe the President would not feel the need to just get stuff done. I think it is about time he fights back. This standstill put on by a Republican controlled congress. Is killing us in the global Marketplace.

The Republicans are still thinking we can shut ourselves off. To compete. That idea is outdated and is failing. Even the Corporations they pander too know this. And have went global while the republican party lets them evade responsibility to their workers here in the USA.

Remember REAGAN GAVE AMNESTY in NOV 1986

The reason the Oval office Has the power of an Executive order is just for reasons like what Congress is doing. Leading us nowhere for political GAIN. They need to actually work for their living. And help the economy and our Nation.

  • 2 votes
#1.203 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

@uchusky - actually, the migrant workers are, for the most part, here on legally obtained papers. Second, if the kids realized what the workers were making, they might change their minds...($10/hr is not uncommon)

Obama was talking about children brought into the country, not anchor babies. There is a difference.

It is time for the US to stop rewarding criminals, or their children, for that matter.

  • 6 votes
#1.204 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

Do Not Mess With Texas said:

"A great many of us would not be here if punishing the son for the crimes of the father had always been the policy of this country, including myself." (1) It is not my concern where non-American citizens go or what happens to them.

Really? I think from your post it is of great concern to you or you would't be posting here. And it IS your concern--it is OUR taxpayer dollars that go to detain these UAMs--unaccompanied minors--in deportation camps.

(2) The end of your sentence is unclear, and seems to imply that punishing the son for the crimes of the father is the policy of this country, and your policy as well. I think what you meant to say was, "A great many of us, myself included, would not be here if punishing the son for the crimes of the father had always been the policy of this country." (3) Nobody is being "punished" per se by being deported, they are simply being deported. If they were being "punished," they would be thrown in jail for a while, perhaps forced to work on a chain-gang, andthen deported. Or maybe just taken out and shot, and their corpses launched over the border via catapault. (Now THAT's "punishment"!)

Punishment? You haven't seen conditions inside the deportation camps, or you've ignored what you saw, or you didn't care. I spent three years in one when immigration lost my paperwork. Want to hear what that's like?

The lights are never turned off, so it's hard to get sleep. Food served on several occaisons was crawling with maggots and we were told there was no money in the budget to make more for a camp of 1500, we had to do without. They 'ran out' of eating utensils and we were told to eat with our hands. Underwear assigned to me after the once-weekly 15 minute shower was still crusted with blood from another woman's period because it wasn't washed before being reassigned.

The camp I was in consisted of five tents on concrete pads in TX. Willacy Family Processing Center--also called 'Ritmo' by human rights people who saw the place because they said it reminded them of Guantanamo Bay. Each tent was separated into four 'pods' and there were 50-60 people in each pod, five toilets, and there was no partition between the toilets or the living spaces or the doors. Since only lactating women were given bras, going to the bathroom pretty much involved stripping out of the one piece jumpsuits, and guards would watch us pee and get their rocks off. Strip searches happened on a daily basis anywhere the guard felt like it, and body cavity searches that left us bleeding also happened on a regular basis--and you couldn't ask that the guard performing the strip search/body cavity search be female--any guard at any time for any reason. Guards had their 'favorites'.

The camp chaplain raped my pregnant 17 year old neighbor--pregnant because she was trafficked in at 12 years old for a USC to make child porn, got her pregnant, turned her out. She was picked up as an illegal, but she couldn't get protected status for human trafficking victims because she didn't have a police report documenting the abuse so she was put in the deportation camp until she gave birth, then her baby was taken away and given to the biological father since there was no evidence that he had sexually abused the mother. She committed suicide after they took the baby girl away.

And the only thing I did wrong to deserve being in there was NOTHING. I did NOTHING wrong.USCIS lost my adoption paper and my parents never told me I was adopted before they died in a car accident. I wasn't even here illegally. I had a BC, DL and SS card. I was punished because the government lost their paperwork. I spent three years in the camp writing letters to every courthouse in every state we'd ever lived in trying to find that paper, because ICE is not required to prove you are legal. You are guilty until you prove you are innocent.

"If I had been deported because my mother or my grandfather had broken the law, I would have had nowhere to go" So? There are literally billions of non-U.S. citizens in the world, each with their own personal problems.

I had nowhere to go--I was abandoned as an infant at an international orphanage with no paperwork. When ICE tied to deport me they realized I was 'stateless', or undocumented--there is no birth certificate showing where I was born, who I was born to, or even when--I have no idea exactly how old I really am and I don't celebrate birthdays.

Why should I give a rat's rectum about yours, just because you are here illegally?

Because it's OUR MONEY that's going to detain them. Homeland Security asks Congress for $141 per person per night per year to detain illegal immigrants. That comes out to about $51,000 a year per person. A for-profit prison says 'hey, we'll hold these people for you for $98 a night.' That's about $35,000 a year. Homeland Security adds the leftover $15,000 a year to their budget along with the houses, cars, personal possessions and bank accounts of the people being detained/deported. They took my high school ring when I was detained and 'lost' it--I never got it back. That's why Homeland Security went from a starting budget of $49 million in 2002 to last year's $98 billion.

The private prison meantime hires people who have little chance of getting hired anywhere else (one of the guards who pegged me as his 'favorite' had a history of domestic abuse and another had a record for rape.) They spend the absolute least amount of money on the detainees while pouring tons of money into lobbyists who work to keep them supplied with a constant stream of immigration detainees, like:

children adopted internationally through crooked adoption agencies--the agency pocketed the $5k meant to pay for the child's papers and gave the parents fake documents instead;

the true illegal who hopped the border to deal drugs and shot a cop,

the undocumented/stateless like me,

and the refugees from the Haitian earthquake like the six year old boy orphaned when a house collapsed on his family, processed by the embassy as having an aunt in Miami who was willing to take him in, was waved onto a military transport by the Marines who evacuated the hospital after an aftershock leveled it. Instead he went to a deportation camp, there to remain indefinitely because deportations to Haiti were suspended after the quake, ICE ignoring the hysterical USC aunt who begged to be able to take her nephew in.

Think about all of that before saying 'it's not my problem'.

  • 3 votes
#1.205 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

YAY!

The Obama wants to give more free stuff to the Mexican invaders at the taxpayers expense.

Since 99.9% of Latinos will vote for him anyway, it seems an expensive cost per vote especially when the citizens who pay for this won't be happy.

  • 5 votes
#1.206 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

"Gee, I'm falling back in the polls, and reliable demographic groups are losing interest in voting for me. Quick! Pander!"

This seems to be about the best that the president can do in terms of leadership these days. Does it matter that the president's new policy violates the laws passed by Congress? Not as long as Harry Reid remains majority leader.

  • 9 votes
#1.207 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

Here's the flaw in the President's logic. If they have obeyed the laws they can stay - well excuse me being here is breaking the law - hence the term "illegal". So you must go... D'oh

Actions of a truly desperate man... He will shift any stance to get a vote...no moral fiber in his body...

BTW can't wait to see how the Judicial & Congressional Branches feel about the President selectively ignoring laws... Didn't he swear to uphold the Constitution and laws of this land? Just sayin'

  • 8 votes
#1.208 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

EliMae ProudWestVirginian, it was worse with the last elephant. Thanks to him, my son was born into a country at war and has lived in it his whole life. His grandfather and two uncles have both been sent into it. In case you've forgotten, that elephant was the whole reason we are in this mess to begin with (not to mention practically illiterate).

Fortunately for your son he's still living. I am sure the 3000 individuals families that died on 9/11 wish they were all living. But thanks to someone attacking our country they aren't as fortunate as your son to be enjoying father's day with their families.

His grandfather & two uncles (doubt this to be true, but) were not sent into it any war. They VOLUNTEERED for it the second they signed their name to join the military/reserves. That is what you do when you decide to join the Military, you swear to defend your country. If you want to know what its like to go into war with no choice, ask a Vietnam Vet, the majority didn't volunteer they had no choice. So please don't whine for your grandfather & uncles, they chose to do it. And we thank them for their service. More than what the Vietnam Vet got from the jacka**

Blame Bush game is old. This is Obama's mess that he has no eartly idea how to fix. At least the elephant didn't take three years to get us out of our 2000 recession like the jacka** who can't get us out because he has no earthly idea what he is doing!!! He's just digging a deeper hole.

Obama is heading to the unemployment line and its the only person I won't feel sorry for that is/will be unemployed. I hope he continues to talk every day, open mouth insert foot and pull stunts like this.

  • 2 votes
#1.209 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

I thought about it Amanda - the US is not a charity...

  • 8 votes
#1.210 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

Can you believe Obama actually said,

"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally."

What a socialist thing to say! What an anti-american...what?

Ronald Regan is actually the one who said that in October 1984? St. Regan, icon of all Republicans said the words "amnesty" and "illegally" in the same sentence?

Go ahead everyone-spin that!

  • 5 votes
#1.211 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

Lady cat said:

if you are an illegal you are deported no questions asked.

If you don't ask questions how do you know they're illegal?

Mark Lyttle, a U.S. citizen of Puerto Rican descent with mental disabilities who was wrongfully deported to Mexico in 2008. Lyttle’s entanglement with immigration authorities began when he was about to be released from a North Carolina jail where he was serving a short sentence for inappropriately touching a worker's backside in a halfway house that serves individuals with mental disorders. Despite having ample evidence that Lyttle was a U.S. citizen – including his social security number, the names of his parents, his sworn statements that he was born in the United States and criminal record checks – officials from the North Carolina Department of Correction referred him to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as an undocumented immigrant whose country of birth was Mexico. Lyttle had never been to Mexico, shared no Mexican heritage, spoke no Spanish and did not claim to be from Mexico.

Here's a diplomat who served in our military;

Hans Joachim Keil was arrested in Dutton in September and accused of being an illegal alien. He was an official representative of Samoa, a current Member of Parliament and a prominent businessman with many family links. He had diverted to Missouri on the way home from trade talks in Brussels where he represented Samoa. “They were going to lock me up for five years plus five years. Five years for impersonating a US citizen and five years for using an illegal US passport. On the day of my arrest when I brought to their attention, that I served in the US military … they threw that out the window and said that I’m an illegal alien and I have no right to be in the United States. They knew I was a Samoan diplomat but they had no regard for my diplomatic passport.”

And the problem is that even after you prove you're legal ICE can still continue to detain you.

Mr. George Ibarra, 46, was born in Mexico but was raised since infancy in Arizona. In his late 20s he enlisted in the Marines and served three years on active duty, including time in Iraq, before being honorably discharged. On February 23, 2011 Department of Justice adjudicator Richard Phelps ruled in Eloy, Arizona that George Ibarra had by a preponderance of the evidence proven that he is indeed a citizen of the United States. Rather than apologize to Mr. Ibarra for previously wrongfully detaining him, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is holding Mr. Ibarra in solitary confinement at the Eloy Detention Center, in clear violation of the U.S. Constitution and a memorandum requiring Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to release anyone with "probative evidence" of U.S. citizenship.

And here's some who was clearly a citizen but the ICE official 'wasn't trained right'.

Lack of proper training of immigration inspectors resulted in their mistaken conclusion that Sharon McKnight’s passport was fraudulent. McKnight spent eight days in Jamaica before returning to New York. While there, her luggage, containing all her money, was stolen. Airport workers contributed money so she could reach family members. Once there, her mother flew to Jamaica from New York to take her case to the US consulate in Kingston. With the help of Rep. Michael Forbes (D-NY), consulate officials determined that the passport and birth certificate, which immigration officials had declared fraudulent, were in fact real, and established McKnight’s US citizenship.

And here's someone who just had a different regional acent. Remember the movie 'My Cousin Vinny', the judge having trouble understanding Vinny because of the New York accent?

Houston chef Leonard Robert Parrish, 52, ran afoul of a law intended for illegal immigrants. The Brooklyn-born Parrish went down to the Harris County Sheriff's Office in September to clear up a problem over a couple of bounced checks. He wound up in jail on immigration charges. He was strip-searched and spent 12 hours in custody. "The deputy told me I had a foreign accent," Parrish recalled. "I told him I had an East Coast accent. He said, 'It sounds like a foreign accent to me.'" A 2008 Texas law required a person's citizenship status be linked to his driver's license. A sheriff's deputy told Parrish he was detained because when they ran his driver's license information through their computer, it said that his citizenship status was 'unknown.' "I served on a murder jury in Texas and they can't find out I'm a citizen?" asked Parrish.

  • 2 votes
#1.212 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

For years the administration had said it didn't have the authority to make such a move, saying it couldn't decide to stop deporting wide categories of people on its own without legal approval from Congress.

ONLY CONGRESS CAN LEGALLY MAKE IMMIGRATION POLICY. Obama acknowledged that fact prior.

FLASHBACK: 'The notion that somehow, by myself, I can do these things, it's just not true'...

  • 5 votes
#1.213 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

Great move Obama. It only makes good sense.

Mittens of course, refuses to even talk about immigration. He's avoiding discussion of everything except dissing Obama. That takes real intelligence right? The only jerk in history I can think of who thinks he can run for President and refuse to discuss anything. I can't wait to see how he answers to this. Dis the Hispanics? Go ahead RAinman Romney. I hope he does.

  • 3 votes
#1.214 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

Yup and Reagan also signed an Amnesty Bill back in November 1986. The Great Conservative Hero of the Republican Party Believed in Immigrants From Mexico. He proved it by signing that legislation.

Maybe we all should have impeached him. Republicans talk tough on immigration. But when the lobbyists want cheap field workers and labor. To bust Unions and the middle class. They fall in line well. Behind the money.

  • 4 votes
#1.215 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

So let me get this straight; if my father robs a bank and gives me the money, I get to keep it? That's what this sound like to me. I say no jail time for them, as they had no say in coming here, but they still have to go home. Yes, I said it, home! This is not their legal home, and why are those people on the other side of this argument always acting like it's a punishment worse than death to go south of the border, is it that bad?

  • 4 votes
#1.216 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:14 PM EDT
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The louder racist righties/Teabbagers whine and pout the more they drive the independent/moderate voter to Pres Obama. Right Wingnut Extremism and seething racist rhetoric has never been a winning formula in politics, except in fascist nations.

Keep up the pace righties.

  • 2 votes
#1.217 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

Today Barrack Kardashian Obama announced a very controversial ( and illegal) policy and does not want to answer tough questions about it.

Courts will REVERSE...and by then we will have all the personal information we need about these illegal aliens to locate them quickly for deportation!

So go ahead illegal alien; give us all your info when you sign-up. Catch ya later. Literally.

  • 5 votes
#1.218 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

Will some American please throw a shoe at Obama!!

  • 6 votes
#1.219 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

As someone who has seen the issue from both sides, once as an undocumented detainee and now s a naturalized US citizen, here is my solution to the immigration issue:

1. Refine the definition of 'illegal'. Illegal should mean those who hopped the border to do drugs and shot a cop on the way. No amnesty no matter how long ago the incident occurred. 'Illegal' should NOT mean those who came here legally but ICE took 16 years to process their applications. 'Illegal' should not mean those for whom ICE lost paperwork a decade after the fact. 'Illegal' should NOT mean those who were trafficked in as children, either through international adoption by crooked adoption agencies, by legal American citizen pedophiles for child sex, by their illegal parents, or are refugees. Yes, I am advocating amnesty--for anyone under 18 or who was under 18 at the time the offence was committed.

2. Close the borders. Use the returning troops from the war to secure our northern and southern borders if necessary. Send out advance notice to the world a year in advance that we will be closing our borders. This will give everyone who wants to immigrate to the US time to get their applications in prior to the closure date. Stress to the world that we are NOT closing our borders forever, we are NOT going to become isolationists; we just need to get caught up on the paperwork backlog. Keep the borders closed for 2 years so ICE catches up. Business travelers of course are excepted.

3. Use the time the borders are closed to catch up on the enormous backlog of applications waiting to be processed. In 2010, ICE was just getting to applications filed by Mexicans in 1994, China in 2001.

4. For those already in detention: prioritize the cases. Deport the truly 'illegal' first (see above definitions) then address cases for minor children, elderly/infirm, and terminally ill. Don't make those children wait for years in detention, it's inhumane. Offer them basic English language and civics classes while they are in detention so they will learn about our country; instead of penalizing them for their ignorance, offer them a chance to learn.

5. If you have a case of someone who came here legally but ICE has not gotten to their paperwork and time expired (undocumented), release them on electronic monitoring once they have not been deemed a flight risk. This will ease the overcrowding in deportation camps and make room for more of the truly illegal, higher-priority cases--ICE's own stats say electronic monitoring has a 98% compliance rate--98&% of people released on electronic monitoring do show up in court for their immigration hearing. A 2009 Associated Press article said an examination of ICE records showed that ICE currently asks Congress for $1.7 billion to detain 33,000 people per year ($141 per night) and 18,000 of those people were simply undocumented and had not committed any crimes. Do the math:

18,0000 people x $141 per night x 365 day a year=$926,370,000

Releasing those 18,000 undocumented, non-flight-risk elderly, terminally ill, and minor children on electronic monitoring would free up $926 million. That should be enough to hire more pencil pushers to get caught up on the backlogged paperwork and detain and deport more of the truly illegal in the 2 yr deadline above. Also add in the funds from the 'seized civil assets' the government takes from those who are detained and deported as illegal, that's a lot of money, definitely enough to get caught up on the paperwork backlog.

6. Improve conditions for those in detention. I'm not saying they should have bingo night and TVs in every cell. I'm talking about adequate food; no meals with maggots, please give us eating utensils, and please give us clean underclothes and jumpsuits; NO ONE should have to wear underclothes still crusted by another woman’s period. And adequate medical care; if someone is having a seizure don't tell them to fill out form for an aspirin. If someone is on medication for something please allow them to continue taking those meds. Look up 'Victoria Arellano' for an example.

7. Allow non-violent ICE detainees out on a day-labor program. You do it for nonviolent offenders, why should we be treated any different? Sitting for 24 hours a day in a deportation camp does no one any good whatsoever. The detainee has nothing to do but go crazy; let us out to work while we wait for the judge to throw us out.

8. If the judge says they have proved they are a citizen RELEASE THEM. There is absolutely no excuse for keeping someone after a judge has ruled they should be released. Look up George Ibarra.

9. If someone says they have proof that they are indeed a US citizen or a diplomat from another country, INVESTIGATE. The law of the US is 'innocent until proven guilty', not 'guilty until YOU prove you're innocent.' Don't automatically assume that because the person looks Latino or foreign that they MUST be here illegally. Look at Hans Keil of American Samoa.

10. ACCOUNTABILTY. If one of us dies in ICE custody our legal US citizen relatives have a right to know if we have died, don't just cremate our bodies and throw the ashes in a landfill. It won't matter to us, we're dead, but our relatives outside the deportation camp have a right to know we have died so they can claim our bodies and take care of us according to our respective beliefs. Even if you believe the 'illegal' doesn't have a right to Last Rites, not everyone believes so and if there are relatives willing to claim the body, they as legal citizens have the right to do so.

  • 3 votes
#1.220 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

Americans.....Fight back......

Remove your children from school until ALL ILLEGALS are removed from the United States.

Obama won't be able to handle that message of disgust at his actions.

  • 6 votes
#1.221 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

It has nothing to do with immigration per se. So the President is ignoring the laws that congress has created and is making up his own laws. He is hence becoming a dictator. Maybe next he will declare himself, "Supreme Dictator for Life", and do away with the constitution and the other branches of government altogether. All hail the chief! We are but slaves to his whim.

  • 9 votes
#1.222 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

Amanda-2017567

1. Refine the definition of 'illegal'. Illegal should mean those who hopped the border to do drugs and shot a cop on the way

I think NOT. ILLEGAL means BREAKING a LAW... ANY LAW. A rose by any other name is still a rose.

Illegal:

adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.:

  • 4 votes
#1.223 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

ROY WILSON-336103 ...(#1.199).."So a new President takes office on January 21, 2013 and revokes this 'Executive Order', and then what happens to those illegal immigrants that have been given work permits"

.....Easy, we know who and where they are now....scoop them up, rescind their work permit, ask them where their parents are....then they can all get deported as a family....

______________________________

To all the "It's not their fault crowd" :

If I'm in the back of the van when my mom and dad sneak into your house while
you're on vacation and take all your stuff.....Do I get to keep all your
stuff.....It wasn't my fault....I really like your kids X-Box...

These kids dragged across the border by their parents get all kinds of stuff
from me, the taxpayer, against my will....

  • 5 votes
#1.224 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

"Ok Feisty today's the day you answer my question: How are you almost always the first poster on the political stories?"

I have the answer: She's a paid Oblamer plant and she has to start work on time or no paycheck!

  • 5 votes
#1.225 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

Obama proves he is not a leader but a DICTATOR! It is time to remove him from office by impeachment, if possible, or vote him out in november.

Please ask yourself: Can this country survive another 4 years with this TYRANT?

  • 6 votes
#1.226 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

Interesting how this "feisty" person has in her icon the word "dumb Fux" is that not an example of intolerance, name calling, profanity, stereotyping, bigotry, intolerance etc etc.....

She should be reprimanded and suspended just like those from the right who are constantly berated and punished here. It is even more interesting when one sees that she is so often the first to comment.

Tyler, you should be so very ashamed of yourself....

Why, instead of living up to the true values of the liberal movement, you support hate, intolerance bigotry, unfairness, prejudice and stereotyping... All of the "evils" you and your minions revel in pointing your hypocritical fingers at.

You, above all of these individuals who claim the moral and intellectual high ground while having your hate parties are guilty of everything you accuse the objects of your hate to be culpable of.

For it is YOU who uses the abhorrent tool of CENSORSHIP like a sculptor to shape and define the underlying message and popular point of view in these cyber-stoning circles.

We know, you sit there with a smirk on your face, playing God, snidely mocking those whom you believe to be so far beneath you as you delete their content, selectively applying "the rules"

It is now my great opportunity to congratulate you!!!! Welcome to the demographic of those who became the "evil" they wished to stamp out.

Is "pigotry" your twin and "feisty" your sister? or are they all you...?

Keep up the censorship you're doing a great job, Goebbels would be very proud of you.

Oh yes, you can ban this profile for life too , for asking thought provoking questions, however, the beauty of it is, cyber-reincarnation means I can come back any time I please.

Don't forget to wipe the hate-froth from your mouth before you leave your cubicle, it's unseemly and besides, other left wing extremists might see you and think you're a right wing example of the stereotype they hold so close to their hearts and attack YOU on the street.

Now wouldn't that be ironic...?

Have a Pleasant Day

  • 6 votes
#1.227 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

Yes, kids! If you apply yourself as an illegal alien, you and your whole race will be granted immunity from all crimes committed in the United States.

Obama the Coward.

  • 3 votes
#1.228 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

All hail Obama, supreme dictator of the United States. We are all but slaves to his will.

  • 4 votes
#1.229 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

Get Real said:

I thought about it Amanda - the US is not a charity...

No we are not. I agree with that. So why are we paying to detain those who are absolutely no threat to us, who have no criminal record and who have done nothing ring/ Why is Homeland Security continuing to hold detainees even AFTER they have proved they are a citizen? Why are they not following Congress's law that says they have 6 months to do something with a detainee they are holding? Stop holding people for one year, three years, five years? Decide what to do with them in six months like they are supposed to!

I pay taxes here and it disgusts me to think that my tax dollars are being used to detain someone like I was. I did nothing wrong, I broke no laws, why detain someone for three years because USCIS lost a piece of paper? I didn't want to sit in a deportation camp staring at food crawling with maggots on taxpayer dime!

If they really thought that missing my adoption paper made me a national security threat and wanted to keep tabs on me, ICE has an immigrant monitoring division--they could have released me with an ankle monitoring bracelet. I would not have been able to take my scholarship and go to college, but I could have found a job, worked, and had the cost of the bracelet and the monitoring personnel taken out of my paycheck because I WAS legal to work--had a valid SS number, birth certificate acceptable to everyone except ICE, and a brand new DL, it wouldn't have cost the taxpayers $51,000 for each year I was detained, and I would have found my adoption paper a whole lot faster--it took a week of work at the deportation camp to earn enough to send out one letter to one courthouse asking if they had my adoption paper!

  • 2 votes
#1.230 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

Lots to discuss, not a simple issue.

History. The Legal Immigrants to the Americas aka "Colonists". Usually, Involuntarily (or remain in Prison) sent on One Way Boat Rides to the American Colonies from the European Debtor Prisons, "Undesirables" (extreme British hatred of the Irish), or as Political Prisoners (and Religious). Upon arrival those that were not the "Rich" attempting to make money, became "Indentured Servants" (aka Slaves) before the Africans were brought to the US as sold to the Slave Traders by the Fundamentalist Islamic Arabic Omani Muslims that captured them. The Africans also sent Involuntarily to the Americas on One Way Boat Rides.

It was much later that US Laws were created that made the children of the Irish Legal Immirgrants, Africans, etc. US Citizens, according to the US Supreme Court these children of Legal Immigrants were NOT US Citizens until these US Laws were created.

The US Laws and Immigration. The Legal Precedents. Purpose. It was required for the Legal Immigrants to immigrate thru preestablish quarantine due to previous outbreaks and pandemics that wiped out entire Settlements, being "sick" was a reason to be returned back to the Nation of Origin. This is what other Nations did during the H1N1 Outbreak and this did work to slow down the spread so that there was enough time to create and test a vaccine. This was also previously done to stop the spread of Typhoid, the "Pox" (Small Pox), Spanish Flu, etc. at the US that previously decimated (wiped out) the populations at Asia, Europe and Africa.

The Current US Policy. During the start of theOutbreak of the H1N1 President Obama stated his April 2009 Policy, "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders". As to why the US Military currently cannot be used to secure the US Borders and will be thrown on Unemployment instead (already happening) during President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of the US Military.

Legal Precedent Against President Obama's Policy. Long ago during the building of the East West Railroad by the Chinese (and Japanese "they all look the same") after being built most Chinese (and Japanese) settled in either the West (Southern California Deserts) or the East (Chinatowns). The Japanese using Japanese intensive farming turned the Southern California Deserts (similar to the Baja Desert) into Farmland, this was confiscated and sold to Caucasians under Executive Order 9066. As far as their children born at the US, they were NOT US Citizens as Ruled by the US Supreme Court. Much later after the East West Railroad US Laws, made the children of the Chinese and Japanese born at the US, US Citizens.

Previous Successful Solution. Legal Precedent against "Anchor Babies". Based on previous US Supreme Court Rulings and US Laws President Eisenhower starts his "Operation Wetback" as the Illegal Aliens are a National Security Threat. Included in the apprehensions and deportations are "those little Frauds" aka Anchor Babies. As being Minors (underage of consent) it is the Illegal Alien Parents that receive the US Taxpayer Funded Benefits, that usually end up as the Illegal Alien Parent's Benefits and not the child, this is known by the Illegal Alien Parents (Legal Guardians of the minor) and Fraudulently used against US Citizens (US Taxpayers) by the Illegal Alien Parents as condoned and even advised to do by Illegal Alien Advocacy Groups like La Raza, M.E.Ch.A., etc., that also state their Goal of the Overthrows of States to form Aztlan, and using increasing Latino Populations while the Causasian Population decreases to passively gain Political Control (Majority Population). Many of the Illegal Alien Advocacy Groups start to protest to end President Eisenhower's Operation Wetback.

Legal Precedent for Illegal Aliens to receive US Taxpayer Paid Public Assistance. Later on the Legal US Citizens of California state to realize what is happening and by Popular Votes demand Proposition 187 making it necessary to be a Legal US Citizen to obtain Public Assistance. The expensive Lawyers (entire Law Firms paid for with US Taxpayer Money) of La Raza versus State Funded Lawyers (like Public Defenders) defeat the "Will of the US Citizens (US Voters)" by having the 9th Circuit Court Rule California Proposition 187 Unconstitutional to ask US Citizenship Status to obtain US Taxpayer Funded Public Assistance.

Illegal Aliens do NOT Pay Taxes. And the Cost of Illegal Aliens. Most of the Legal US Citizens of California start to realize that the Illegal Aliens do NOT pay State and Federal Income Taxes as they Work for Cash Only and do not Fill out Employer Paperwork (State and Federal Income Tax Withholding, Deductions for Medical, Dental, Vision, Social Security, Disability Insurance, etc.) to avoid apprehensions and deportations. The Legal US Citizens of California start paying over $10 Billion on Illegal Aliens, $7.7 Billion Education for Illegal Aliens, $1.4 Billion for Health Care of Illegal Aliens, $1.4 Billion for the imprisonment of Illegal Aliens for Violent Crimes of Murder, Rape, etc.; this money then becomes Unavailable for Projects/Programs for Legal US Citizens of California. The total amount of Sales Taxes at the time was $17 Million, $17 Million does not pay for the over $10 Billion spent on Illegal Aliens, NOT including the even higher costs for the Public Assistance for Illegal Aliens (required US Taxpayer paid Public Assistance for Illegal Aliens since the Federal 9th Circuit Court Ruling); this then requires the implementations of Cuts to Programs/Projects for Legal US Citizens of California.

Recent Facts (2010 to current). President Obama states his Policy to the US Census Bureau to include Illegal Aliens in the US Census by prohibiting the US Census Bureau from using the "Long Form" inquiring as to US Citizenship Status. The State of California based the California Revenue on the US Census, that included the Illegal Aliens. Based on this California projected a State Revenue of over $100 Billion and then based the California State Government Budget on this. Because the Illegal Aliens do NOT pay Taxes, the actual Revenue collected was only $85 Billion, and due to the other States Enforcing Anti Illegal Alien Laws, more Illegal Aliens fled to California, with the State of California then spending over $25 Billion on Illegal Aliens (Education, Health Care, Imprisonment for Violent Crimes (Murder, Rape, etc.), not including the US Taxpayer paid Public Assistance. The State of California now faces a State Budget Deficit of over $16 Billion, requiring the US Citizens to pay even more for the Illegal Aliens in the form of Tax Increases and drastic Cuts to US Citizens previously Budgeted for Programs and Projects.

Previous Attempts to Stop Illegal Aliens. President Bush realizes that Illegal Aliens are a National Security Threat and are placed on his Executive Intelligence Agency's, the CIA, National Security Threat List. President Bush issues a Presidential Proposal to US Congress for US Congress to write a Anti Illegal Alien US Law. US Congress writes the Illegal Immigration Crisis Response Act, this is reviewed by the US Supreme Court as 100% Legal. In 2006 US Congress is to vote on making the Illegal Immigration Crisis Response Act a US Law as the Illegal Immigration Crisis Response Act of 2006, Illegal Alien Advocacy Groups at the US incite the over 23 Million Illegal Aliens at the US to Demonstrate Nationwide, threatening violence (Riots), fearing for their lives (definition of terrorism) US Congress does not pass the Illegal Immigration Crisis Response Act of 2006 into US Law (if they did most of the current problems with Illegal Aliens would not exist today). The National Security Threat of Illegal Aliens is as stated in the 2004 US Congressional 9/11 Committee Findings, Investigations, Recommendations.

President Obama's Actions to Legalize Illegal Aliens. In August 2009 President Obama states what his plan is for Illegal Aliens to the Associated Press and International News Media twice, Meeting at Mexico and G Meeting at Canada:

And immigration remained a sore spot. While Obama has said he'd like to start crafting an overhaul that legalizes millions of Mexican immigrants, there's little chance of Congress acting this year, since even top administration priorities like health care and climate policy are moving slowly amid heated partisan debate.

As the legalization (amnesty) of over 23 Million Illegal Aliens after stating this to the International News Media, the numbers of Illegal Aliens increased to over 25 Million; so regardless of President Obama's "Deporting More Illegal Aliens" there are much more to apprehend and deport.

To initiate his Legalization of Illegal Aliens and circumvent US Congress "Will of the People (US Citizens)" President Obama states his Presidential Policy of, "Only Criminal Undocumented Immigrants will be Deported". Without realizing that they are Felony Criminal Tax Evaders, when this is told to President Obama he demands the US Laws be changed to exclude the Illegal Aliens from Felony Criminal Tax Evasion (to do this would be to Overturn the previous Felony Criminal Tax Evasion against "Italian Organized Crime" for the US Government to currently imprison "Italian Organized Crime" of the "Family" and the US Government Seizure of Las Vegas, and Reno).

Voting by Illegal Aliens, at all States there are agreements to accept a State's Driver's License as a Valid form of Identification, that can be exchanged for another State's Driver's License. This Driver's License is used as positive identification for Voter Registration. At State's like New Mexico all that is required to obtain a New Mexico State Driver's License is a Utility Bill, as the State of New Mexico believed that by allowing Illegal Aliens to obtain New Mexico State Driver's Licenses more Illegal Aliens would purchase Vehicle Insurance, which did NOT occur.

Unemployment of Children of US Citizens. The current numbers of Children (Teenagers) of US Citizens Unemployed is over 52% (2011, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics). These were the "Low paid", "Entry Level", "No Benefits", "Menial", "No Benefits", "Hard work" types of jobs previously done by the Children of US Citizens and now occupied by the Illegal Aliens and the Children of Illegal Aliens, that are now displacing the US Labor Union Construction Workers. As these positions became unavailable to the Children (Teenagers) of US Citizens these Children then must look elsewhere for a Job, including holding many part time jobs to make the same amount of money as one full time job, the only other Jobs then displace the older US Citizens.

Myths. The concept of the Illegal Aliens providing the workforce for the US Vegetables and Fruit for the US went away as soon as most of these started coming from South and Central Americas.

The belief that Illegal Aliens originally came to the US with the intent of becoming US Citizens, is dispelled by the BBC Documentary interviews of Illegal Aliens, that came to the US to make as much money as possible, then return to the Nation of their Origin with a lower Cost of Living so like what their "relatives, friends" and neighbors" previously successfully did is what they are currently doing. Their statements to the BBC Interviewers indicated they had no intent of staying at the US as the Cost of Living, Taxes, etc. are too "expensive" (high), to decrease their cost of living they brought their families with them for the US Taxpayer Funded Education, Health Care, and Public Assistance as assisted in obtaining thru the Illegal Alien Advocacy Groups Funded Lawyers.

What really gets confusing is that most of the Newsvine Posters claim "Hispanic" is Caucasian pertaining to the Zimmerman case, and the same Newsvine Posters pertaining to this say Discrimination against Hispanics as non Caucasians.

As far as "Compassion", etc. before apprehending and deporting these "young Illegal Aliens" give them a Briefing and require them to sign a Legal Document stating they received the Briefing that indicates who was Responsible for their Situation, Their Illegal Alien Parents. The US Government, US Citizens, Legal Immigrants, etc. are not Responsible nor to Blame.

For those that want the Illegal Aliens to remain in the US, YOU pay for them yourselves, do not require all US Citizens to pay. This is like you having one jar of peanut butter to feed 10 people for a week, and now all of you want to add 10 more people, so that your own children must go hungry to feed the other 10.

AppeasersFate - Remove your children from school until ALL ILLEGALS are removed from the United States.

That does nothing, as you will still be required or go to Prison to pay Income Taxes and Property Taxes that pay for the Education, Health Care, Public Assistance, etc. for children of Illegal Aliens.

  • 3 votes
#1.231 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

All you naysayers are pretty pathetic. Unless you are a Native American we all came from immigrants. And how could he possibly be pandering when they still can not vote.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 4 votes
#1.232 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

The war on illegal immigration is being fought on the wrong front. We have wrongly went after those who are being exploited by the system rather than the exploiters themselves.

The laws should be changed to make individuals and corporations face total loss of property and assets to fairly reprimand them for their part in this reprehensible system of preying on human beings.

  • 3 votes
#1.233 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

Elise, SF

All you naysayers are pretty pathetic. Unless you are a Native American we all came from immigrants. And how could he possibly be pandering when they still can not vote.

Perhaps you should read what we are against? I and others have nothing against LEGAL immigrants. 660,000 manage to do that every year. If 660,000 can manage why can't those who come here illegally do the same?

The pandering is that those who ARE legal will see it as an "olive branch" to get their relatives here. "see what I can do for your people....." "If I had a son....." ALL politicians play the game... We are simply calling attention to the specifics on this one.

Romney 2013- 2017.

  • 2 votes
#1.234 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

Hey Obama take care of your own citizens first, stop trying to buy votes and look at what the consequences would be. " this is coming from a Mexican American who voted for Obama but wont anymore.

  • 6 votes
#1.235 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Obama's plan is pretty much the same plan that Rubio endorses. Romney better not protest too much if it is his plan to pick Rubio for VP. Hypocrisy has never stopped Romney before so I guess it won't matter much to him.

  • 3 votes
#1.236 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

Obama's plan is pretty much the same plan that Rubio endorses

Hey Kim!

I have been remiss in not responding to your thoughtful comments!

I'm glad business is booming for you... but... we still miss ya! *hugs*

  • 4 votes
#1.237 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

Why on other posts that has do do with a Romney speech the Dems are on there name calling and talking trash. On this post most Dems are ashamed and changing their vote. Just an observation.

  • 2 votes
#1.238 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILL,

Really Laughing at you based on your derrogatory avatar.

You cannot even figure out that: Registered Democrat and main supporter of President Obama; Bill Gates, owns Microsoft, Microsoft owns NBC as MSNBC. MSNBC hosts Fox News.

MSNBC owns Newsvine. You are posting on a Newsvine Forum. So basically you are saying that Tyler, et al are what your avatar indicates by association (working for MSNBC aka Newsvine or posting on Newsvine). You are lucky they have not figured that out yet and you ,Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILL, getting suspended indefinitely.

Dan-2287140 post #2.118

First, Two Wrongs do not make it Right.

Second, so what did you hire President Obama for, to be President Bush III?????

"Repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different Result".

President Obama's Executive Orders. note: keep clicking "next" at bottom of page.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

Third it is extremely easy to blame the person that is no longer US President, ask yourself what has President Obama actually done: "It's the Economy Stupid" - President Clinton.

  • 5 votes
#1.239 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

Hey Feisty - I try to get on when I get home after 8-10 hours at the office. Yes - much to the chagrin of most Republicans the economy doesnt suck everywhere. Home sales in my area and the economy in general are much improved. I am in banking/mortgages - not exactly a haven for left-wing, liberal democrats but there are a few of us. Glad you are still giving them hell - hugs to you, too.

  • 4 votes
#1.240 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

Feisty - You have drawn the wrath of David-475776 I see. This guy considers himself the self-appointed educator to us all and world's foremost authority on everything. He even sources himself as proof of his statements. Read some of his pedantic previous posts and, if you can stay awake, you will be witness to someone about to abandon sanity.

  • 1 vote
#1.241 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

Yes - much to the chagrin of most Republicans the economy doesnt suck everywhere

Kim,

You just keep on with the fight!

Obama/Biden 2012 - the only hope for what is left of the middle class!

You have drawn the wrath of David-475776 I see

David WHO?

I don't waste my time on people like David...

  • 3 votes
#1.242 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

This President is a LIBERAL HACK CRETIN unworthy of the office he holds and he just cemented his dubious reputation as a pandering fool !

  • 5 votes
#1.243 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:07 PM EDT

Mark-390 . . .

I have often tried to point out in my comments that President Obama is not a king, nor a dictator, emperor, despot, autocrat, monarch or potentate. Considering President Obama's apparent ability to consistently circumvent the Legislative Branch of the United States, I only have one thing to say...

I stand corrected.

What's happening to America? If you're not scared yet, you should be.

You probably got berated and collapsed for it, frequently.

We still are a pretty strong country. I am confident we can rebound from this crew, especially the more unhinged they become, the more it turns the the 80 - 85% of the country that still has a sense of decency.

In a sense, the more unhinged they become, the better. Not only will more reasonable people will replace some of the most foul, but the longer it will take for the unhinged to calm down enough to mount a serious counter offensive aka the Gov Walker recall effort.

Romney is not the most conservative candidate in the world, but he clearly grasps the situtation. He has been masterful in maintaining the right pressure, squarely placed, and correctly used.

You must remember. With the radicals that have taken over the Democratic party leadership, if it was known Mary Poppins was a registered republican, you would swear she was a poltergeist when they were through with her.

  • 2 votes
#1.244 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

Tony,

Let's leave it this way

Republicans and Independents should wait until the next election. Let the democrats foolishly be the ones using Impeachment that takes too long, a circus and rarely is very effective. Let the democrats be the one's that fail on weak grounds for recall elections.

No if feels awful to wait and waiting is going to mean more damage, but it if means they are exposed for what they have become, and be tossed in large numbers, so be it. If there are too many left in the house and senate recovery will not get the full treatment it needs, just like 2001 - 2005. Those kinds of compromises really hurt.

  • 1 vote
#1.245 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

Damn this is the longest vine i have seen yet.Have those teabagger's panties in a bunch!

  • 1 vote
#1.246 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

The Republicans are just upset because they will have to start paying their slaves minimum wage.

  • 4 votes
#1.247 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 PM EDT

Can you feel betrayal by a President?

  • 4 votes
#1.248 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

Wow, another Mr. Obama "shadow" government Cabinet member putting out regulations to bolster Mr. Obama's chances to get the Latino [and every other Illegal Alien (Immigrant)] vote. These folks are sure being used as a POLITICAL football by this administration.

Meanwhile:

  • Russia is deploying troops to a Syrian port.
  • Holder is still refusing to answer Congressional questions of Fast and Furious.
  • Holder continues to sue States, Corporations, and Individuals on his "case by case" basis.
  • Leaks on Israel's plan to use an airfield for a possible Iranian attack, on the Doctor who provided info on Bin Laden's whereabouts resulting in him going to prison for 33 years, and on the Iranian computer virus continues to point towards White House "Senior" officials.
  • Iran continues to defy anything this administration and the U.N. announces.
  • North Korea continues their sabre rattling.
  • "Arab Spring" in Egypt is going to turn out to be an "Arab Holocaust".
  • Pakistan, an ally, is charging the U.S. to use a road for transporting supplies.
  • Somalia is becoming the next Pakistan in harboring terrorists.
  • Gitmo remains open with terrorists still not taken to court and sentenced.
  • The National Debt ceiling is about to be reached requiring ANOTHER debt increase.
  • SCOTUS will soon announce Mr. Obama's "Trophy" Mandated Universal Health Care Reform legislation as unconstitutional.
  • The unemployment rates continue to stink.
  • The housing market is seeing another hiccup in foreclosures.
  • Americans have lost about 40% of their wealth during the Obama reign (no, he is not a King).
  • 41 Obama White House staffers, and some of their aides, have failed to pay their BACK IRS TAXES.
  • The IRS continues to give $ 4,200,000,000 annually to Illegal Aliens (Immigrants) claiming the Additional Child Tax Credit for children, NOT theirs, living in Mexico.

And here Mr. Obama is doing what he always does.....PANDERING TO SPECIFIC GROUPS for VOTES instead of being a Leader and President of the United States responsible to ALL of the people.

working for america.....My post pretty well explains why EVERYONE should be "UPSET" with Mr. Obama. Next issue will be IMPEACHMENT.

  • 2 votes
#1.249 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

According to more than a few Regressive Righties (I strongly suspect are fraudulently posing as Democrats and ex-Obama supporters), posting up their opinions on NewsVine, they're saying that law-abiding, taxpaying children of naturalized American citizens are illegal and should be punished.

Really?

Do you really take us centrists and left-leaning news readers over the age of 30 as being that politically naive?

I'm really beginning to think that my friend in Wisconsin that's majoring in Law is correct, that the Regressive Right lives to promote lies and distortions with each other, to feed their pitiful egos, and that they're "highly allergic" to any fact-checking of whatever maliciously distorted messages they emotionally want to sell everyone to unquestioningly believe.

  • 3 votes
#1.250 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:07 AM EDT

...And consider this: We are all human beings living on ONE PLANET; therefore, there is NO SUCH THING AS AN, "ILLEGAL" IMMIGRANT.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

  • 3 votes
#1.251 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:15 AM EDT

lehutbut they never bash those good patriots called US business leaders, who are almost 100% Republican,

Really? 100%. Let's see, business leaders:

Soros = Liberal

Buffet = Liberal

Gates = Liberal

Schmidt = Liberal

Immelt = Liberal

Musk = Liberal

Blankfein = Liberal

Dimon = Liberal

Brotman = Liberal

and the list goes on... The facts are Business leader's percentages that support one or the other party are not much different then the population as a whole.

  • 3 votes
#1.252 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

@clb-462357:

You only named the smart ones...

    #1.253 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

    Both Romney and Rubio support the dream act and both are hypocrites. The dream act is needed legislation the GOP has blocked to hurt O'bama's reelection. I say that Romney and Rubio are hypocrites because Romney opposed the Dream act, Rubio supported it, and they both say O'bama's actions will make the dream act harder to pass. That claim is a steaming pile of bull sh-t. The GOP would not even be considering the dream act AT ALL, without this broadside from the president.

    • 2 votes
    #1.254 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

    To every poster who claimed to be a democrat, yet is opposed to the dream act, go join the party of the elephants, the democratic party is better off without your attitude.

    • 3 votes
    #1.255 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

    This move by Obama Discriminates Based on age and Disability.

    Are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States.

    And

    Are not above the age of thirty.

    This move by Obama could possibly be a version of - Fast and Furious -

    A federal operation dubbed Fast and Furious allowed weapons from the U.S. to
    pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so the arms could be traced to
    the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels.

    This order requires

    Only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action. Individuals will not be eligible if they are not currently in the United States and cannot prove that they have been physically present in the United States for a period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding today’s date.

    So when these people verify they will give up details about the people who brought them here. IE>Mom and Dad They Feds then can stake out - round them up and deport them.

    After all The Obama administration deported a record number of illegal immigrants for the third straight year, according to figures released Tuesday by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    • 2 votes
    #1.256 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

    It may have been a desperate move by Obama, but I suspect it was not a politically savvy one.

    NBC normally has about a 70% Liberal slant, but based on a quick survey of comments, about 90% of the posters disagree with Obama on this one. I think the comment above about losing more Democratic votes than the Hispanic votes he might gain with this move is accurate.

    What's really sad is that these young people who actually believe Obama's rhetoric will step forward and self-identify themselves as illegal immigrants and give the authorities their addresses and other personal information that will facilitate their deportation when this 'Executive Order' is reversed - perhaps in as little as 7 months.

    Obama says that the illegals will get permits to work for 2 years, but they will likely become invalid in about 7 months when a new President gets sworn in.

    This is a cruel and cynical joke to play on these young people.

    • 1 vote
    #1.257 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

    Hey bobyoung,bush,s wide reciever?

      #1.258 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

      Wade, Tampa Florida. "Both Romney and Rubio support the dream act and both are hypocrites................ I say that Romney and Rubio are hypocrites because Romney opposed the Dream act"

      There are different 'versions' of the so-called 'Dream Act'. The Democratic version opens it up to virtually everyone - even if they flunked out of high school and can't speak English, and allows a dozen or so of their 'relatives' to emigrate here.

      The Republican version is much more restrictive in who qualifies, requiring that they actually graduate from high school, enter college or the armed forces and speak English.

      • 1 vote
      #1.259 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

      Obama's immigration plan really doesn't help the Latino population. When you consider less than 40% of Latinos graduate high school, then over 60% of the Latino children population won't qualify for a work permit. Also, those children that do qualify run the risk of having their parents deported. Parents that actually worked hard to teach their children good morals/ethics and to work hard which gave them the tools to graduate in the first place. I guess Obama doesn't have a problem in breaking up good Latino families.

        #1.260 - Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:27 AM EDT
        • 1 vote
        #1.261 - Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
        Reply

        Nice political move Barry! Getting worried?

        • 198 votes
        #2 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

        The old saw about desperate times and desperate measures comes to mind. .

        • 159 votes
        #2.1 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        It never fails that the right wing side show carnival barkers pop up!

        • 37 votes
        #2.2 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

        So if you look like you're not going to get re-elected just change our countries laws to buy votes? Don't we have a process in this country when we want to change our laws or does any elected official have the right to declare what he wants to do?

        Job1 - This move is unconstitional. But our President doesn't care about our constitution.

        • 246 votes
        #2.3 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:26 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarJohnNY-3623017Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Yeah, 'cause it's pandering when the President does what his base wants but patriotism when the GnOP does what their base wants.

        • 39 votes
        #2.4 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

        Of course he won't deport them. They are his guarantee for another 4yrs. I want to know where they will work. For his campaign most likely.

        John, this "base" you are talking about are ILLEGALS. What about these people being ciminals doesn't register with you? They do not belong here.

        • 156 votes
        #2.5 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

        Our nation’s immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner, said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

        The shift essentially accomplishes many of the legislative intentions of the DREAM Act, an immigration reform bill that had stalled in Congress due to Republican objections.

        Whether you agree or disagree with this policy does anybody see the contradiction in the above two statements? The Dream Act is not the law of the land and the Administration has basically done an end run around Congress. Similar to his parsing of the War Powers act, this Administration has just increased Executive Power yet again.

        It really is becoming an Imperial Presidency. If Congress wants to re-assert itself it will have start de-funding Presidential initiatives.

        • 163 votes
        #2.6 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

        Yet another reason I wont vote for Obama!

        Guess he is planning on a lot of illegals voting for him again.

        • 172 votes
        #2.7 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

        As a life-long Democrat, this pronouncement to be a despicable act of subversion of federal law, rank pandering, and a patent violation of executive authority. Rewards for immigration lawbreaking and special treatment that is granted (sans Congressional approval) incident to immigration lawbreaking will backfire stupendously in Election 2012!

        • 166 votes
        #2.8 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

        Thats it, I am done with Obama !

        • 159 votes
        #2.9 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

        You're right Alan

        "Our nation's immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner", except when the progressives don't agree with our laws.

        So, will this administration continue to fight states that want to insure that illegals don't vote? Now that this adminstration has changed our immigration laws they will fight harder to allow illegals to vote. These clowns have to go.

        1/20/2013 - the end of an error

        • 138 votes
        #2.10 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarThe Dude SpeaksExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        If Obama thinks this is a clever maneuver to capture the Hispanic vote he’d better think again. It’s more likely to motivate some extremists to such a point, that he will never see election day.

        • 68 votes
        #2.11 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

        President Obama Illegal is illegal, if legal American citizens do something illegally they get arrested. But in your administration, I guess illegal is the norm. Fast and Furious, intelligence leaks, lying to the taxpayers, and soon to be Obamacare. But when you need votes anything goes.

        Btw if an American did this in Mexico they would be thrown in jail, no questions asked. Poor leadership, poor management of our laws. Poor all the way around. Time for you to go.

        • 138 votes
        #2.12 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

        Can't get "Card Check" legislation passed by Congress....Implement it by regulation through NLRB

        Can't Get "Dream Act" legislation passed by Congress....Implement it by "policy change" at DHS

        Not defending DOMA.....

        Executive Branch out of control , doing end runs around Congress....All to pander for votes

        • 124 votes
        #2.13 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarcyrusdavirusExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Be careful how you comment to these Rightwingers they will report you for commenting in the same manner they do. They can dish it out, they just can't take it back in return.

        Rightwing=Hypocrites.

        If Narco Lubio, Cantor, McConnAll, Romney propsed this they be all over claiming how patriotic they are.

        How many of you Rightwingers are actually Native Americans?

        • 17 votes
        #2.14 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

        Don't worry, he just hung himself. People are pissed about this!!

        • 111 votes
        #2.15 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

        I'm very glad President Obama has his priorities straight by helping non-US citizens finding jobs, rather than legal citizens!

        "Is there any way I can revoke my citizenship? I could sure use the benefits!"

        • 133 votes
        #2.16 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

        This is a GIFT! OHIO and PA should be SOLID RED in NO TIME!

        • 77 votes
        #2.17 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:40 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarNorthstarDFLRestored

        Thank you Mr. President

        The criteria that will be used for issueing a work permit makes sense to me. These young people will not have to live in fear but continue with with their work, education and serving in the military.

        • 27 votes
        #2.18 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:41 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarJH-479998Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        cyrus - I just reported that I found your comment "NO VALUE". Does that make me a hypocrite?

        • 18 votes
        #2.19 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

        If the US had immigration laws that were half as strict as the ones Mexico has we wouldn't be in this mess.

        • 96 votes
        #2.20 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:43 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarCarl WeRestored

        This is a good policy. Young kids didn't choose to sneek into the USA--they were brought by their parents.

        We don't punish children for their parents' crimes. If a kid was brought here when he was 1 or 2 years old, grew up here, went to school here, has friends and family here, how does it make sense to punish him by shipping him off to a country he never knew?

        • 33 votes
        #2.21 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

        He also said he would stop harrasing the medical marijuana dispensaries, but he lied about that. Maybe he is just saying this for votes but still following the law and deporting them? lol... wth, there is nobody honest to vote for.

        • 31 votes
        #2.22 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

        Living on a border state I'm not as excited as the rest of you. That being said why doesn't he make a truly remarkable yet controversial move and say...NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES.

        Allowing illegals has been long agreed to by both parties in my opinion so I'm not awed. Do something really awesome like evoke executive privilege and start fixing the infrastructure while putting millions of people to work.

        And I'm a Democrat....a very disappointed Democrat I might add

        • 70 votes
        #2.23 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        Job1 (post 2.3)

        It never fails that the right wing side show carnival barkers pop up!

        So the President unilaterally determines US Immigration policy, something that's not his ability to decide, in a pure crass political move to shore up his crumbling base and you call it "carnival barking". How myopic, ignorant and misinformed about the role of the Executive Branch.

        JohnNY (post 2.4)

        Yeah, 'cause it's pandering when the President does what his base wants but patriotism when the GnOP does what their base wants.

        Another ignorant comment showing the complete lack of understanding of the role of the President and the Executive Branch of Government. The President's role is to enforce laws established by CONGRESS, not to make unilateral self servicing decisions to save his own political bacon.

        He was elected President, not King!

        NOBAMA 2012!

        .

        • 90 votes
        #2.24 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        Industrial Strength: Since when do illegals get to vote????

        • 36 votes
        #2.25 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        Really cyrus? I don't pander to either party, but it seems to me, that the Leftwing is just as big of hypocrites as the Rightwing. It's like the pot calling the kettle black when both sides do this.

        • 25 votes
        #2.26 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        way to buy a few million votes..

        Nevermind the law, it is an inconvenience anyway..

        • 60 votes
        #2.27 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarmj899Restored

        Janine-1645002

        You and the rest of us were given the same chance as these young children. Do not play the unemployment card.

        Most unemployed are drugged out brain impaired people that are not employable.

        • 11 votes
        #2.28 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

        ok I am not familiar with all this political stuff but i do know that this country was founded by people that wanted to be free of government ruling. We didnt want to be told what to do by government officials. with that being said, I think all he wants is to ruin this country. and we are letting it happen. We are supposedly supposed to run this country. WE THE PEOPLE should unite once and for all and take back what was fought for us so many years ago. We just keep letting them run over all of us as a nation. Its noones fault but our own for letting it happen.

        • 50 votes
        #2.29 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

        Most unemployed are drugged out brain impaired people that are not employable.

        Let me retort... you are full of @!$%#... completely

        • 42 votes
        #2.30 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarEmanuel-0684Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Here's another reason why this is a great idea: all these folks who got paid in cash/under the table, when they apply for a work permit, they can start paying taxes! How you like dem apples?

        • 31 votes
        #2.31 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

        This will certainly help many good people to stay in the country.

        The draw back is that this not only doesn't change the current illegal alien problem, it may enhance it. This has happened before and apparently it will continue to happen in the future because of actions like President Obama and other presidents before have done.

        The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin giving work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of a growing Latino electorate that has opposed administration deportation policies.

        The administration's decision will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants. Two senior administration officials described the plan to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity ahead of its expected announcement Friday.

        Illegal immigrants will avoid deportation and be eligible for work permits if they arrived in the U.S. before age 16, are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED, or served in the military.

        If this is what the president and the administration wants fine if they take it one step further. If a person is here illegally and has meet those requirements and is under age 21, they probably are living with parents who are also here illegally. So, the person under 21 should have to disclose who they live with and if they are indeed illegal and they also meet all of the new requirements (lived here 5 years or more/no criminal record, they would then have 12 months from identification to pass a test that proves they can effectively read/write/speak English. If they are able to pass that test, have active employment and a desire to stay, they would become U.S. citizens.

        I have thought for many years what would be a more practical solution to our problem that doesn't require more border patrols, new laws that encourage illegals from coming here under some new type of amnesty, unreasonable fences/walls or later problems with people coming across our borders illegally.

        Make a change to the wording of the 14th amendment. Change the wording so that no one is granted U.S. citizenship simply by being born in this country unless: both parents of the child born in the U.S. are current U.S. citizens. That alone would prevent tens of thousands of people who cross our borders just in time to give birth so that not only does the child get to stay, but almost always the mother is allowed to stay to care for the child. A mother alone often isn't able to care for the child and work, so often times the father then comes here to support the family and we now have a minimum of 2 more illegals because of birth rights granted under the 14th amendment.

        • 20 votes
        #2.32 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

        So much for a Representative Democracy...

        Can't wait till a Republican is in office so we can issue some Policies without debate between elected officials.

        I'm thinking elimination of Planned Parenthood, a rework of Medicare and Medicaid, Immigration, Welfare, Tax Code....all sorts of good things.

        Can't wait......

        • 41 votes
        #2.33 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

        Obama and the Democratic leadership have completely abandoned working class Americans! This is an appalling and despicable act of pandering!

        • 74 votes
        #2.34 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

        Foreigner: Since they crossed the border illegally .. where have you been? Florida just made national news becasue one county tried to block the illegal immigrants from voting.. the dems pitched a HUGE fit..

        • 61 votes
        #2.35 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

        Absolutley!! Oh and get them a voters registration as soon as possible!!!!

        Are you kidding me????

        WHAT part of ILLEGAL is not illegal??

        • 65 votes
        #2.36 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:52 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarYellowdog-Mark DExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Alan, NJ

        I will not lie, I believe that this is implementing the Dream Act without it being the law of the land. A Bill that I found perfectly acceptable I might add. I see your point about additional powers, but is this not allowable per his executive order powers? Does he not have the authority to direct his departments? Perhaps you will call me a hypocrite as I whole heartily agree and rejoice in this change of heart from Obama. Congress has proven to be uncompromising and broken. Once bipartisan bills with great support fall short of the filibuster mark to end debate. Ideas that majorities of their constituents agree with flounder endlessly in the halls of Congress.

        It was time for action and leadership to address one part of the immigration reform issue. The GOP refused to do it legislatively so...

        Let the hypocrisy calls rain down on me. I think the ability for these young people, who are applicable, to freely and legally get work permits will allow them to get out of the shadows, get work, contribute legally to the federal tax man instead of only the sales tax man. Instead of getting money under the table, everything is out in the open.

        Even the GOP should understand the concept that immigrants who were illegally brought to the United States as children "lacked the intent to violate the law," and pose few national security risks.

        Obama still the Best we got

        Obama 2012!

        • 16 votes
        #2.37 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

        You have to love the healine "Won't seek deportation of young illegal immigrants". Yes all the young people are okay but their parents are a different story! How is it said, the young illegal immigrants arent to blame - it's their parents!

        Illegal is illegal! This is such a slap in the face for every immigrant that has come to the US legally.

        This is SO a ploy just to get the latino vote! Just a thought - is this open to every race of young person who is here illegally that is NOT just latino? Of course not it plainly states above how crucial the LATINO vote is to Barack Obama. Wake up you are all being played!

        • 47 votes
        #2.38 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

        Law abiding and illegal in the same sentence.........sounds like someone needs to go back to school.

        • 53 votes
        #2.39 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

        Well Obama, you have helped me make a choice. It will not be you! I hope you have enough Latino votes to counter those you will loose with this end run.

        • 62 votes
        #2.40 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:55 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarLMarcTRestored

        It's a long overdue right thing to do that's designed to bring the bigotry of the right front and center... just as Rubio plays for the Latino vote... makes sense to me!

        • 8 votes
        #2.41 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

        Emanuel their income will be so low that they wont have to pay a dime!

        • 24 votes
        #2.42 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

        Emanuel...you are a fool if you think just because they get a work visa they will stop accepting payment under the table. Go have an apple.

        • 31 votes
        #2.43 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

        "Illegal immigrants will avoid deportation and be eligible for work permits if they arrived in the U.S. before age 16, are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED, or served in the military."

        OK, how do they prove they have been in this country for 5 years? They have been here illegally and flying "under the radar" so how do they prove it? And how the hell is it that an illegal immigrant, someone who is NOT A CITIZEN OF THE U.S. is serving in the military??? We seriously have some mentally challenged people running this country.. "Hmm, let's put people who are legal citizens of another country in our military and give them a weapon.".. seriously, WTF??!

        On the other hand, this could be the worlds best plan for documenting all the illegals.. Obama grants them work permits, if they tell us exactly who they are and where they live, and then we vote him out, get a REAL American in there, and use that info to round them up and ship them out.. Could even have a reality show "World's Dumbest Illegal Immigrants"..

        I am all for the illegals to seek legal citizenship, but FFS, don't just allow them to break the law and get away with it..

        • 30 votes
        #2.44 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

        Seems to me that breaking the law and failing to do what one took an oath to do, that being upholding the constitution, should be official misconduct and punishible by prosecution of all involved.

        • 39 votes
        #2.45 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

        LMarcT....read up and down these comments. Many democrats are opposed to this as well. Are they also bigots?

        • 35 votes
        #2.46 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:02 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarSweetAZExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Pandering? hahahhahahaha...uh no, It is called following through on a campaign promise but I guess, as a member of the GOP, that is a foreign concept. Now...as far as working class Americans....these kids are those very ones you speak of being abandoned. Quite convenient that we forget what we are founded on to serve our own agenda ya think?

        • 5 votes
        #2.47 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

        Now, with this, millions more will flood into the US with all their young children. Shame on the Obama administration. This will further wreck our country as many of these people will need government hand-outs.

        So what are they going to do?- Send the parents back and keep the child here in the US, dividing the family? What the hell? The rules, as stated:

        Individuals must 1. Have come to the United States under the age of 16, 2. Be no older than 30, 3. Be currently enrolled in school, have graduated high school or served in the military, 4. Have been in the country for five continuous years, and 5. Have a clean criminal record.

        First, "under the age of 16"? That is way too old. If this passes, it should be changed to a much lower age, like 5. Certainly, six year-olds and older children can speak their native language. Seconly, our schools are burdened enough, and children of parents here illegally should not be permitted in. Send them back, immediately to their home country, along with their parents. Fine them severely as well. If we went to Mexico and did this, it would be a felony and we would spend time in a Mexican prison.

        This is a travesty. All these people, young, old, and anchor babies too, need to go back to the parent's native country and apply for immigration the legal way, like most of our ancestors did. The US economy cannot absorb all of these people that want to come here and get government handouts.

        • 36 votes
        #2.48 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

        Obama is insane.

        • 42 votes
        #2.49 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

        8.2% Unemployment Rate.... True Unemployment 12%+......14 Million Americans out of work

        70% of young people will not find a summer job....

        Obama will still give out 800,000 Work Cards to illegals

        And "they are saying it's not political, it's the right thing to do " ?!?!?!?!?!?

        • 60 votes
        #2.50 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

        Just another example of how King Obama will ignore anything he disagrees with. Court order? No big deal, just ignore it. Laws passed by Congress? No big deal, just make exceptions. Failure to get legislation passed? No big deal, just issue executive orders. Heil Hitler! er........ Heil Obama!

        • 49 votes
        #2.51 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

        obama, himself, is an illegal alien, so how can he be expected to see this issue from a true, native born American citizens point of view?

        obama is Globalist, not an American.

        • 27 votes
        #2.52 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

        President Obama...."Working hard for the middle class people........of Mexico."

        • 65 votes
        #2.53 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

        I understand that the kids of illegals had no choice when brought into our country and that they did not intentionally break the law. But they are here illegally and do know that as they get older they are breaking the law. Why are they not trying to become citizens then? They can apply or get work visa's on their own. As far as I'm concerned illegal is illegal, as an American citizen I do not have the right to determine which laws I want to break.

        • 33 votes
        #2.54 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

        Obama is simply the worst President of the United States in history, and this further proves it. This is nothing but another lie he made to get elected.

        Vote him OUT in November! Thanks!

        • 41 votes
        #2.55 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

        " law-abiding illegal immigrants"

        If you are illegal you can not be law-abiding.

        • 38 votes
        #2.56 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

        DaveK...name one illegal alien who has voted....YOU CAN"T...because it does not exist!

        • 5 votes
        #2.57 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

        Can you all see this coming? I can. The next thing to do is to allow anyone who can't be deported citizenship and the right to vote. Stand up and vote NO BAMA this November, stand for your rights now, cause in 2016 you won't have any. Let me be clear. No Bama. This is not for the American Citizens in anyway shape or form. No Bama.

        • 30 votes
        #2.58 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

        So if you look like you're not going to get re-elected just change our countries laws to buy votes? Don't we have a process in this country when we want to change our laws or does any elected official have the right to declare what he wants to do

        I'm opposed to what Obama did, but he's not changing any laws. In most cases, the INS has had discretion regarding its actions (a discretion granted by the law). We've got to stop thinking that any action that we don't agree with must be illegal or unconstitutional. Such attitudes don't advance debates on this issue.

        • 7 votes
        #2.59 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

        I'm been living here since I was 6 years old, my mother and father just became legal and both older sister been. I graduated high school with wall in front of me, this brought that wall down. I can live without fear of loss and being a burden on my family. I am an American, if I were to be deported home as some might call it, to me it would be the farthest thing from home I can ever imagine, away from my family and friends. I am young and proud of Obama for seeing through my eyes.

        • 11 votes
        #2.60 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

        mj899, you are ignorant!!!! My job was eliminated 12/16/11 and I have been doing my best to gain employment. I AM NOT A DRUGGIE!!!!! Nor am I brain impaired!!!! My age may have something to do with it. I know too many good, hard working people who are out of work who are having just as hard a time finding employment as I am. Your comment was down right insulting. By the way, as a mature worker, we make better employees because we do not call off and are at work on time as well as actually being VERY productive while on the job!!! You sound young an offensive. Something I would never be.

        Yes, I am very bothered about this latest escapade by Obama to again do something which goes against the Constitution of the United States of America to drive us further into socialism!! When I do get back to work, I do not want my tax dollars going to these people. If they want to be a citizen of this country, they should go back to where they are citizens and from there apply to be a citizen of this country.

        The schooling they have received here was something that was taken from our own children. We could help kids in less fortunate parts of THIS country get a better education with the money we would be giving to illegals!

        • 28 votes
        #2.61 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

        Where is Romney's DD-214 I'm still waiting? I ask every day! Romney you said you would VETO the law? What an ignoraumic statement. This clearly shows me you are inept as my casterated cat. VETO a LAW indeed.

        • 2 votes
        #2.62 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

        America's working class abandoned itself years ago.Every time you hired an unlicensed contractor, a undocumented gardener, ate food picked by illegals. We cannot have it both ways. Our jobs have left the country becuase of greed and the ones that remianed we gave away. People under 20 did not take anyone's job.

        As for circumventing our legal process,i suggest instead of claiming to know what the executive branch can do, you READ what it can do. But before you blame the President for all the wrongs in the country, i also suggest you look at Congress. as pointed out, they write our laws but they seem to have forgotten about America withhteir lack of action.

        • 10 votes
        #2.63 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

        Is this to forestall complaints that Obama let his relatives who are here illegally stay, but not others? Why not send in the troops, take over Mexico and then they are all citizens and can go down the same toilet the rest of us are.

        • 10 votes
        #2.64 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

        Obama is just pissing off more of the legal citizens of this fine country. At this rate he will loose by a landslide in November. NO BO 2012

        • 31 votes
        #2.65 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

        What a slap in the face of all the young and old people in our country that need jobs. What a hypocrite this so called president is, putting foreign nationals first. HE MUST BE IMPEACHED he is wrong for this country, or for that matter any country. This usurper in chief must go.

        • 28 votes
        #2.66 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

        This is pretty funny...all you anti President Obama now screaming your heads off and all worried about the middle class and poor today and their jobs, yet yesterday and previous to this decision, you support Romney and repubs that want to kill all of the plans that support the middle class and poor. HYPOCRISY MUCH?

        You vote for the 1% that wants to kill your Soc Sec, your Medicare, your Post Office, and give more tax breaks to the 1%, give more billions in tax subsidies to Big Oil that says they don't need them.......That is funny as hell? Vote against your own self interest. Who the hell do you think you are...the 1%..?

        • 10 votes
        #2.67 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

        alan290

        Obama is simply the worst President of the United States in history...

        No Alan, George W. is the worst President ever. Obama is simply very mediocre while all of us were hoping for sweeping change.

        • 8 votes
        #2.68 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

        Point blank, does it look like Obummer will get re-elected? HOw many think he will be? (I personally hope he will NOT go another 4 years!!) This is disgusting! More gangs, more anchor babies,more of my tax dollars wasted on lawbreakers!!

        • 27 votes
        #2.69 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

        Are you really that stupid to believe that? It is so sad how some people can sit back and close their eyes to the real world having no idea what is really going on and then have the stupidity to remark like you did mj. There are still so many good, honest people looking for work and not finding it due to the number of unemployeed they are up against. You people who don't get off your butt and get out in the world to know what is going on should not comment about these things as it makes you look very stupid.

        I am Democrat but this move makes me furious. I don't care what anyone says about illegals not taking the jobs that citizens want, that's bull. I see it all the time. Our job market is the way it is in part due to the illegals. Our economy is the way it is due in part to the illegals. Get the illegals out and our costs for medical care, education, welfare and several other programs will go down and in turn allow shifts in budgets and help turn around this economy when all the jobs open up that they now occupy. This is why we have a program that only grants a certain amount of people at a time citizenship. It is designed to controll population for many different reasons. You want to come to the US, that's great. Just do it legally. And by the way learn to read and speak english to get here. I shouldn't have to learn your language because you come to my country unless I so choose.

        • 29 votes
        #2.70 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

        Treason.

        • 27 votes
        #2.71 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

        Bob~

        Too right and very convenient that we forget what led to this mess in order to slam one party or another. Thank you for making that point.

        • 3 votes
        #2.72 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:29 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        bob in los angels

        Your comment was a home run amid most, which simply aren't readable due to hysterical knee-jerk reactions!

        Thanks!

        • 4 votes
        #2.73 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

        Obama must know the Supreme Court is going to side with Arizona so he's simply trying to change the rules of the game.

        • 27 votes
        #2.74 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

        @Yellowdog

        Congress has proven to be uncompromising and broken. Once bipartisan bills with great support fall short of the filibuster mark to end debate. Ideas that majorities of their constituents agree with flounder endlessly in the halls of Congress.

        I don't disagree but when the executive blatantly goes against the wishes of Congress, no matter how dysfunctional, then I feel it is an overreach by the executive. The way around this is to make your case and elect new members to Congress that will pass a law, not for the Executive to implement it's agenda despite the wishes of Congress. That is why I said Congress should retaliate by de-funding Executive initiatives. For example, the Administration is using the EPA to enforce regulations that would have been implemented if Cap-and-Trade had passed. They should defund this agency. I would also begin de-funding parts of Homeland Security in retaliation. There were a number of reasons that Republicans were elected to the House in 2010 and this was one of them. Tell me one other country that offers citizenship to the offspring of illegal immigrants?

        BTW I do support the Dream Act for those who serve in the military, but simply attending High School is not enough.

        • 16 votes
        #2.75 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

        Obama just solidified the conservative vote and perhaps even caused them to come out in large numbers this election cycle. Thanks Obama! You might as well start cleaning out your desk since you don't spend much time in the White House with all of your desperate campaigning.

        • 26 votes
        #2.76 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

        Recently spent a week in New York and was moved by my visit to Lady Liberty. Glad to see Obama has taken this necessary step to address one portion of immigration reform :}

        “The New Colossus” by Emma Lazarus

        Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
        With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
        Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
        A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
        Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles.
        From her beacon-hand
        Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
        The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
        “"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"” cries she
        With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
        Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
        The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
        Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
        I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

        • 5 votes
        #2.77 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

        Way to grab at the mexican vote there Colombo. But just one question. What in the hell is a law abiding illegal alien? Fence jumping and sneaking into another country is illegal,therefore breaking the law. Lawbreaking is not law abiding. Usual politician bullsh*t. It will still be amazing how many sheep will be stupid enough to go along with it though. Tell them anything. They'll believe it. Which ever side you choose don't forget to get out and vote for your favorite liar and crook this fall.

        • 17 votes
        #2.78 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

        it is disappointing to me that they keep trying to ram amnesty down our throats despite the vast majority of LEGAL Americans opposing it. this is a representative form of government! our politicians are not given license to follow their own agendas once we elect them, they have a responsibility to put aside their own perspective and do what the people they represent tell them to do. Congress did not change this law! the Supreme Court did not change this law! the PEOPLE did not change this law! this is not a monarchy or a dictatorship, one person is not ALLOWED TO DECREE LAWS!

        i am all for trying to improve one's condition in life, but if I or any other WHITE person did this we would go to jail. this is discrimination. just because you have brown skin does not mean you should be allowed to do as you please! racism is ok if it gets you votes? that is a crock!

        • 19 votes
        #2.79 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

        RIP America's middle class...

        Now business knows they can hire more workers who have next to no quality of life so they'll pay them as little as possible because it will be better than these immigrants living under the guns that Holder sent to Mexico. With that in mind, wages will decrease and if you're barely holding on to your house now you're going to be in for a wicked surprise.

        Instead of outsourcing jobs he's just bringing the cheap labor here.

        What was that he was saying about Romney outsourcing again? Sounds like hollow boasts when you consider the actions taken today.

        • 19 votes
        #2.80 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

        (I posted this on another page so sorry for the repost)

        Well this is clear pandering and doesn't surprise, but both sides do it so nobody can say anything either way to that effect.

        That aside, I think this is great (be nice if it was done at another time to avoid the pandering tag but at least it is happening) and I do think other parts of the government should be involved but still. As long as they meet those requirements, and I'm guessing most speak English, if not then that needs to be another requirement, get them the visa's then get them on their way to be American citizens. In the process we can take 800,000 of the lazy welfare leeches that don't meet those requirements but where just lucky to be born here and ship them back to Mexico.

        This is something that is long time coming but shouldn't just stand alone, there are other actions/reforms needed regarding immigration, especially if this is going to happen.

        -First off the 14th amendment needs to be amended and made clear so that this issue of "anchor" babies is solved and cannot happen anymore. One parent must be legal citizen, not just born here. Simple.

        -Then I think there should be another group, meeting similar requirements as these kids do, that can apply for a work visa or citizenship, pay a small fine/fee and be allowed to become citizens, though the number needs to be controlled and limited- I'm saying a couple million or so, not 10 of the 13-15 million illegals. Like as been tossed around.

        - Following that we need a revised work Visa program, starting off it can have only so many applications - another 3-4 million,then adjust from there. Part of their pay goes back to government like everyone else (though a revised tax code would greatly help all of this but that is for another article).

        -Then finally we start actually enforcing the laws, by deporting the illegals, then fining and jailing business owners that offend. Also putting troops on the border for the time being. If repeats become a major problem setup detention camps and hold them for 6months to a year. Camps would be strictly monitored for human rights reasons but intent would be as a deterant. Can't work, then families don't get money. And I'm talking not the whole family stays if they come, just the father, rest go back. Not trying to be heartless or cold just deter people from making the illegal entry. Doesn't work then try something else.

        There are other things we could probably do as well but I think this would a good start and it is time to put these into action. The main thing is I think it tries to at least meet in the middle (both sides have exploited this (dem repub, those for and against immigrantion as it stands) and help pave the way for other positive/needed actions but owns up to that fact people are here illegally and that some groups, as hard as it is, need to admit that and try to work together towards something that is reasonable but doesn't cause major negatives for those here legally either.

        • 4 votes
        #2.81 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

        The problem is, this move on Obama's part doesn't buy any votes, period.

        For example, illegal latinos already live in latino communities alongside American born (legal) latinos.

        This recession has hit young latinos hard, they are above the national unemployment rates.

        Young legal latinos already compete with illegal latinos over certain jobs, however now they must compete with illegal latinos over ALL jobs. This move on Obama's part doesn't create ADDITIONAL latino jobs, it creates ADDITIONAL COMPETITION among latinos for the few jobs they already have.

        All this will do is drive down wages in the Latino community, because, when a business has a greater choice of job applicants, they can afford to be selective and only hire those that will work for the lower wages.

        My question is....now do we count the unemployed illegal latinos that do not have work, but are seeking work, in our unemployment numbers?

        • 7 votes
        #2.82 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

        Regular citizens are not going to stand for this. The illegals should also know that should he be re-elected, the deportations will start up again. He is the stereotypical politician. Say anything to get elected, regardless if they are lies.

        • 17 votes
        #2.83 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

        anything for a vote. wait till holder's gun running pals send in their absentee ballots from mexico, that should put obama over the top.

        • 24 votes
        #2.84 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

        Alan, NJ...."I don't disagree but when the executive blatantly goes against the wishes of Congress, no matter how dysfunctional, then I feel it is an overreach by the executive."

        Brings to mind the quote: "Having the right to do something is not the same in being right by doing it." - AU

        Obama may have legal authority to this, but doing it is unequivocally wrong.

        • 18 votes
        #2.85 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

        So,as usual,pandering for votes,illegal IS STILL illegal......must be nice to be able to pick and choose what laws to enforce,,...or not..........Holder should be in jail as an accessory to murder of a U.S.Border Patrol agent....guess that is selectively legal......and asking ID at the polls is about to be 'illegal'?????..then why in the hell do I have to show ID to vote???....guess he's still BUYING votes...Kinda like spitting in the face of my grandparents who came here LEGALY,and had to go through the quarentine time,the tests,the sponsors,the shots,.......I think it's PAST time to elect even Gumby as POTUS instead ......at least alot of the military agrees,....ABO,2012...........U.S.Army Disabled Veteran

        • 20 votes
        #2.86 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

        Feisty Redhead,

        Thank you Mr. President for having the courage to finally end the kicking of the can!

        Actions do indeed speak louder then words!

        Something which has been long overdue!

        You think the timing of this announcement will flatten the tires on bit on Willard's big bus? lol

        You thoughts are flawed just as Obamas are; He said will go after medical marijuana dispensaries because it is a Federal Law. He said we can't pick and choose which Laws to follow. Then here he is saying that this Federal law does not mean anything. He is a bigger flip flopper then you claim Romney is. They are a drain on our economy when are you Libs going to realize that we can’t take care of those that break the law to enter our country. It is a crime and they should be deported. We cannot take care of everyone in the world as you bleeding heart Libs would like but that is what put us in debt so far we are probably not going to be able to dig ourselves out of it. In a few years if the president is not FIRED we will be is bad as Greece is right now. Then the Chinese currency will become the world currency just as most Dem Libs are pushing for now. President Obama is just as out of touch with the middle class as you say Romney is, Obama went to private school his whole life. So how is he in touch with the middle class he is not? His only loyalty lies with those top contributors like all 4 of the green companies that he gave $750 billion to after being told it was a bad investment. How much more spending will we have to endure if Obama is re-elected. Obama said and I quote Bush’s spending is not very patriotic, so what must he think of his own spending by out spending Bush’s 8 years in just 3 years and is still asking for another $1.2 trillion for this year that will make it $6.4 trillion more in 4 years to Bush’s $4.5 trillion in 8 years.

        America is losing its way just look at NY now trying to tell people what food products and how much the can buy. That is no government’s job. Freedom is not that you can get in your car and travel; in fact it has nothing at all to do with travel. Freedom is having the right to do whatever you like without government interference unless it interferes with another’s right to do the same. Government has been over stepping it roll for a long time.

        The reason is that we have career politicians in Washington DC that do whatever it takes to get re-elected and do not have our interests at heart and it does not matter if it is Dem or Rep both sides are like that. The only way to get America back is to tell politicians 4 years that are all you can spend in WA, DC you are not able to ever run again. We also need to do away with all lobbyists. Test those on welfare if they want our tax dollars and as of now three states have implemented this only 47 more to go.

        • 24 votes
        #2.87 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

        Dictatorship is soon to be booted out of office. This is not Mr. Obama's right as President. He overstepped his authority again.

        • 28 votes
        #2.88 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

        So the President unilaterally determines US Immigration policy, something that's not his ability to decide,

        Yes, actually it is. It falls under his executive order. Deportation is not a law, the law is about how you can legally enter the country. Policy dictates how those who are caught are dealt with.

        • 5 votes
        #2.89 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

        Alan,NJ - I know you supported the Dream act with the exception of giving equal credit for college and military service.

        Alan,NJ - Tell me one other country that offers citizenship to the offspring of illegal immigrants?

        My friend, tell me one other country that has our constitution and the 14th amendment equal protection and jurisdiction under the law? As you stated eleoquently in your post about electing a Congress who debates and supports a bill in lieu of putting out executive orders their is a way to address the "subject to the jurisdiction therin" clause of the 14th amendment - try to repeal it.

        To all those who bristle at the 14th amendment, it is the supreme law of the land. Children of undocumented immigrants are outright citizens as decreed by the Supreme Court. In additon the children of undocumented immigrants are citizens.

        __________

        United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that virtually everyone born in the United States is a U.S. citizen. This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.

        Wong Kim Ark, who was born in the United States to Chinese parents around 1871, had been denied re-entry to the U.S. after a trip abroad, under a law restricting Chinese immigration and prohibiting immigrants from China from becoming naturalized U.S. citizens. He challenged the government's refusal to recognize his citizenship, and the Supreme Court ruled in his favor, holding that the citizenship language in the Fourteenth Amendment encompassed essentially everyone born in the U.S.—even the U.S.-born children of foreigners—and could not be limited in its effect by an act of Congress.

        ______

        Back to undocumented children brought here against their wishes by adults, why is it not a great idea to stop punishing the minors. The status quo would only further exacerbe the problem. I'm glad Obama's directive can give them a fresh start.

        • 4 votes
        #2.90 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

        What is the matter with all these Doom's day folks! These are children that barely speak Spanish as a whole, that view themselves as American regardless of what you think of them, these are kids that were or are being educated in this country and HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORDS!! This is the only country they view as their own. America needs these kids to come out into the open and continue to be productive members of this society. Americans did not have enough children to cover the expenses that will come from having 20% of today's working population that with in 10yrs will almost all be retired and living off of Social Security and Medicare. WE NEED THESE AMERICANS and your over reactions and prejudice towards these kids is just another example of how republicans and conservatives have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a new century of thinking and a new way of doing things... This is a common sense idea. Shame on you all who oppose!!

        • 7 votes
        #2.91 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

        This move by the administration is an attempt to rectify an injustice against young people who have no other home, but the one they have grown up with in this country. Through no fault of their own because their parents brought them here.

        The yelling and screaming going on here is typical of selfish, ignorant, self-righteous, fatuous, and hypocritical freaks. Which is what the right wing conservatives in this country have become.

        It is a shame that decent intelligent people who adhere to christian principles of compassion and justice must wage a battle against the bigotry, hypocrisy, and self-centered avarice of the right wing fanatics who oppose Obama. He has the guts to do what's right. That's what so many conservatives cannot stand about him

        • 8 votes
        #2.92 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

        I could not be happier that Obama has taken this step. And to those racist that want to overturn the 14th amendment, stop saying you love the constitution, you don't love it if you also want to change it.

        The 14 amendment is essential to the progress of the U.S. Case in point, look at Europe. You would think that the EU would have allowed floods of immigrants from Spain and Greece into better off countries like France and Germany. So where is the flood of immigration? Well, one thing that is important to working in any nation of the EU is an understanding of the language. You see, unlike the U.S. the French don't give jobs out to people who don't speak French, barring they have an extrordinary skill of some kind. And what happens to the children of illegal immigrants here in France. Well, since they are denied education and basic rights by the French goverment they are the kids you see begging on the street, who eventually become criminals and prostitutes.

        • 8 votes
        #2.93 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

        Bob,

        America's working class abandoned itself years ago.Every time you hired an unlicensed contractor, a undocumented gardener, ate food picked by illegals. We cannot have it both ways. Our jobs have left the country becuase of greed and the ones that remianed we gave away. People under 20 did not take anyone's job.

        As for circumventing our legal process,i suggest instead of claiming to know what the executive branch can do, you READ what it can do. But before you blame the President for all the wrongs in the country, i also suggest you look at Congress. as pointed out, they write our laws but they seem to have forgotten about America withhteir lack of action.

        Our jobs have not left this county because of greed. They have left this country to be on a level playing field as most countries don't have the stringent regulations as the US does but are still allowed to sell their products here in the US, so if you have a company and it takes 5 times more in the US to produce because of the regulations and you can make the same product in say China for 5 time less because of there is not as many regulations, how is that the companies fault for leaving the US when they have been telling president and Congress for decades that this is what was going to happen.

        What all of a sudden it is not ok to blame the president for what is going on in the US today, that is funny as you Libs are so good at Blaming Bush for all that is wrong and still trying to this day. Also you say it is Congress because of the obstructionist Rep but I ask you what about Obama's first 2 years when he held both houses of Congress and did nothing for the American people and did not try one of his jobs bills back then. It is because now he can try and push the blame onto the Rep so that it may get him re-elected. It is funny that no Dem voted on his last jobs bill as he calls it. When in fact there is no such thing as a jobs bill, government does not create jobs the private sector does. With all Obama has done to the owners of small businesses that shows that he is not interested in jobs, just his own by trying to make the Rep look as though they are the ones not on board. The reality is that in 2010 there was a referendum on the president when all of those Rep were elected. They are doing what the people that elected the people elected them to do stand tough on government sending. So your talking points that you spew are just those of the Dem Lib base and not your own thoughts at all do some research on Obama maybe it will open your eyes on how bad he really is for America.

        VOTE OUT THE (CLOWN CALLED) OBAMA IN 2012

        Here I will help you out with some fact on who caused the mess we are in and about Obama.

        http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/united_states_total_spending_pie_chart

        http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/06/the-true-origins-of-this-finan

        http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57358484/tax-dollars-backing-some-risky-energy-projects/

        http://realetybytes.com/?tag=unemployment

        http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/national-debt

        http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57358484/tax-dollars-backing-some-risky-energy-projects/

        http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_public_debt

        .http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/obamas-magic-number-150000-jobs-per-month/

        • 19 votes
        #2.94 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

        I know first hand that the fields of produce and fruit would not get picked if we took the folks of their free ticket called Unemployment. Most these illegals immigrants pick our fruit and vegetables that we all enjoy every year day in day out of our grocery stores or farmers markets. We had one white guy apply this year to pick in the fields and was told to apply in person by 10:00 am and we called him at 10:15 to see if was going to show up and I quote" I am just getting up and need to eat a bowl of cereal and will be down about 11:30" We told him to forget it. Why, because what kind of worker do you think he was going to be. The immigrant people show up everyday, on time, and we basically have to tell them to get on the bus or van at the end of day because they would work all day if we'd let them but we try and be good to them and allow them to only work 8-10 hours. It's amazing how much of this goes on that the common folk who enjoys their fruit and vegees don't realize that our lazy a** American's won't work hard for their money because that would mean that they'd lose out on their unemployment benefits. It used to be if you didn't work you didn't eat. Not now they just stand on every busy street corner collect their unemplyment checks and "LoLLer" off every one that will give them handouts. It all starts at home and our society has in real need for a Wakeup call on our own family nuclieous(Sp). Way too many single moms, dead beat dads and too much entitlement programs that enable way too much. At least when you see most the immigrants in our area they eat together as a family, they play soccer together as a family and they go to church together as a family. When I grew up we used to play baseball and whatever sport was in season down at the school yard everyday or on weekends and do picinics with families, and now all I see is empty school yards and parks with the exception of mostly immigrants that use these parks and such. So I think that "Us" Americans could learn from them is go back to being a family and faith to try and change the next generation or it will be our damn fault what the next culture shock will be or transpose into.

        • 7 votes
        #2.95 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

        Amusing how Obama has been cherry picking which laws to follow and which laws to ignore. Holder is a perfect little lapdog, goes after states for wanting to update their voter registration, ignores border security while the gangs grow and posts signs telling citizens to stay out of National Parks because, well, because they stand a good chance of being killed by illegal drug cartel members who have taken over the parks and other soverign soil.

        Obama is pandering to the Latino vote, problem here is that American latinos just got shafted along with all other Americans by his pandering to illegals. Not one mention of SS fraud, billions of dollars given to illegals (ITIN numbers filed, fake child dependents claimed, thousand of refunds given) ah, hell, just give them the keys...

        • 23 votes
        #2.96 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

        And the door has been opened for a million more illegal democratic voters.

        Oh and in case you didnt know, there are legal ways be immigrate or stay in this country and work. A pardon from the president should not be one of them

        • 22 votes
        #2.97 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

        It never fails that the right wing side show carnival barkers pop up!

        Job1, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

        ...

        The Dude Speaks banned, multiple of OsamaDidObamasMama, also banned. Don't register multiple accounts.

        ...

        Be careful how you comment to these Rightwingers they will report you for commenting in the same manner they do. They can dish it out, they just can't take it back in return.

        Rightwing=Hypocrites.

        cyrusdavirus, don't everyone you disagree with in a discussion names.

        You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

        Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

        • 11 votes
        #2.98 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

        Bill1488 - Thanks for the links. As i have time i will read through them.

        • 3 votes
        #2.99 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

        Feisty you dumbo as usual with your pom poms out cheer-leading for the doomed speech giver. Another political nail in his coffin for another stupid decision. Hey Feisty how do you feel about giving your tax dollars to tax cheating Mexicans who are here illegally and claiming their ten thousand relatives in Mexico and your President giving them tens of thousands back on an illegal tax claim? Oh yeah your probably on the receiving end so you must be loving it. What will you do when the cow runs out of milk? Just keep cheer-leading with your blinders on, stupidity must be bliss!

        • 21 votes
        #2.100 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

        I for one have not been a fan of Obama since early in his presidency...seemed like a lame duck, however his latest bid to gain votes by baically making young illegals free to come on over anytime and get a job while our unemployment is skyrocketed has convinced me without a doubt that this man has no desire to look out for the american people nor hold true to our own constitution and will be the end of the middle class should he be re-elected in November. This is a direct slap in the face to our unemployed and all the people who came to this country legally.

        • 23 votes
        #2.101 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

        As a business owner, I will NOT hire any illegal no matter what this dumb a$$ president says. If other companies will follow the laws that are on the books now, they too can stop the influx of illegals to this country. Can't wait for everything this fool has done to this great country, the USA, to be over-turned by President Romney.

        Nobama 2012!

        • 21 votes
        #2.102 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

        The states will fight this, and meanwhile the rumble you will hear will be more people running to Romney. Obama is nothing like what we were told.

        • 17 votes
        #2.103 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

        Give the kids a work visa only after they've testified to deport their parents and their parents have been deported.

        • 10 votes
        #2.104 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

        JAN 318400...I'm SO with you and your great, concise post. NOBAMA in 2012, please, Lord, for the sake of our beloved country and its legal citizens.

        • 12 votes
        #2.105 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

        So Obama and his supporters' justification for this is "discretion?" I wasn't aware that you could use "discretion" in which laws on our books are going to be enforced! I think I'm going to use my own "discretion" when it comes to speeding, drugs, and murder. Makes sense, right?!

        • 12 votes
        #2.106 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

        I wasn't aware that you could use "discretion" in which laws on our books are going to be enforced!

        Point me to the law that says we have to deport? You can't because there isn't one, the decision to deport or not is based on policy not law.

        • 1 vote
        #2.107 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

        6dog, what does a DD214 have to do with anything but your Military involvement?

        • 2 votes
        #2.108 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

        Shosyn

        So u think i am full of S^&t will i just got off the toilet

        The majority of the unemployed are unemployed because of drug problems. The proof is in the drug trade.

        Back in the 50ies Californian had a work permit program that allowed foreigner to work in Californian and maybe other states. This program was dropped because it cost the farmers too much. So a new program was adopted that allowed the farmer to use a contractor to hire now illegal workers at a much lower cost.

        Now the farmer has clean hands and the contractor and corporate farmers gets very rich.

        Shosyn time for some x lax should clear u up

          #2.109 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

          Give up MSNBC, you can't censor a revolution.... which is exactly what this type insult and harm to Americans is going to result in.

          • 10 votes
          #2.110 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

          So we are going to give work permits to those 16 to 30 when the unemployment rate for those 16 to 20 is over 20% according to the Bureau of Labor? So legal young adults have to now contend with an "illegal" person for those limited jobs. Also, why are we going to give a work permit to a 16 yr old in the first place? Any other immigrant has to meet age, education, etc. requirements to obtain a work visa when coming from any other country, so why make a change for only one group?

          Also, Once you are eligible for a work permit, you are also eligible for Unemployment and other Social Services. This policy is putting the cart in front of the horse as we need to deal with stopping the importation of illegals and then deal with those already in the country. Another bad policy with the Federal Government showing that they choosing to enforce those laws they deem fit on the books.

          • 3 votes
          #2.111 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

          Many North Koreans are interested in coming to the US after this decision.

          • 4 votes
          #2.112 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

          starsailing-

          You don't think illegal immigrants have voted? Just because DaveK can't name someone personally means it doesn't happen? Man, you are a koolaid drinker. Keep that head of yours in the sand my friend.

          Stunningly naive statement.

          • 4 votes
          #2.113 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

          I would have thought the conservastive republican businesses would love this. After all they hire them and why wouldnt we want to know who is here..The GOP have pulled every dirty trick in the book by supressing a person rights and these conservatives have the balls to complain..gimme a break!! give it up. Everything being done right now is political..I guess the prez should just let the conservatives beat up on him more and just sit back and take it? These people only know the usa as home..duh! Maybe you conservatives should apply for a border fence for your states then if you dont like it..,OBAMA 2012!! YEAH BABY...STEW CONSERVATURDS STEW..

          • 1 vote
          #2.115 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

          @Bob475084,

          You mean the conservative (note correct spelling) Republican businesses that most likely employ your sorry ass? Those businesses? Ok, got it now. Thanks.

          • 4 votes
          #2.116 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

          Executive Order Like no other President has not used it. Get a grip folks. This is US picking the CREAM of the CROP so to speak. Taking the best of all of this and putting it to work for us. Instead of sending these Graduates home to become competitors against us.

          Ever wonder how come NEW Immigrants seem to create business's send their kids to college. Become doctors and lawyers. Even scientists? Its called desire. That is what built this country not the Republican Party or the Democrats. It was us using the best of the world to create an EMPIRE.

          • 1 vote
          #2.117 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

          @ Alan NJ

          GW BUSH EXECUTIVE ORDERS...QUITE A FEW

          Jan. 16
          Executive Order: Granting Reciprocity on Excepted Service and Federal Contractor Employee Fitness and Reinvestigating Individuals in Positions of Public Trust

          Jan. 9
          Executive Order: Strengthening Laboratory Biosecurity in the United States

          Jan. 9
          Executive Order: Providing An Order of Succession Within the Department of Transportation

          Jan. 9
          Executive Order: Amending the Order of Succession Within the Department of Agriculture

          2008

          Dec. 18
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 12
          Executive Order: Closing of Executive Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government on Friday, December 26, 2008

          Dec. 9
          Executive Order: Providing An Order of Succession Within the Department of Justice

          Dec. 1
          Executive Order: Exclusions from the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program

          Nov. 18
          Executive Order: Transformation of the National Air Transportation System

          Nov. 18
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 9397 Relating to Federal Agency Use of Social Security Numbers

          Oct. 31
          Executive Order: Settlement of Claims Against Libya

          Oct. 9
          Executive Order: Facilitation of a Presidential Transition

          Oct. 7
          Executive Order: Further Amendments to Executive Orders 12139 and 12949 in Light of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2008

          Sept. 26
          Executive Order: To Authorize Certain Noncompetitive Appointments in the Civil Service for Spouses of Certain Members of the Armed Forces

          Sept. 26
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 12962

          Sept. 11
          Executive Order: Executive Branch Responsibilities with Respect to Orders of Succession

          Aug. 28
          Executive Order: Further Amendments to Executive Order 13285, President's Council on Service and Civic Participation

          Jul. 25
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Additional Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe

          Jul. 24
          Executive Order: 2008 Amendments to the Manual for Courts Martial, United States

          Jun. 30
          Executive Order: Reforming Processes Related to Suitability for Government Employment, Fitness for Contractor Employees, and Eligibility for Access to Classified National Security Information

          Jun. 26
          Executive Order: Continuing Certain Restrictions with Respect to North Korea and North Korean Nationals

          Jun. 9
          Executive Order: Amending Executive Order 12989, as Amended

          May 1
          Executive Order: Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Burma

          Apr. 18
          Executive Order: Amending Executive Orders 13389 and 13390

          Feb. 29
          Executive Order: President's Intelligence Advisory Board and Intelligence Oversight Board

          Feb. 15
          Executive Order: Providing An Order of Succession Within the Department of Health and Human Services

          Feb. 13
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Additional Persons in Connection with the National Emergency with Respect to Syria

          Feb. 7
          Executive Order: Improving the Coordination and Effectiveness of Youth Programs

          Feb. 5
          Executive Order: Implementation of the Protocol Additional to the Agreement Between the United States and the International Atomic Energy Agency for the Application of Safeguards in the United States of America

          Jan. 29
          Executive Order: Protecting American Taxpayers From Government Spending on Wasteful Earmarks

          Jan. 23
          Executive Order: Further Amendment of Executive Order 11858 Concerning Foreign Investment in the United States

          Jan. 22
          Executive Order: Establishing the President's Advisory Council on Financial Literacy

          Jan. 4
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          2007

          Dec. 6
          Executive Order: Closing of Executive Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government on Monday, December 24, 2007

          Nov. 28
          Executive Order: Establishing An Emergency Board to Investigate Disputes Between the National Railroad Passenger Corporation and Certain of Its Employees Represented by Certain Labor Organizations

          Nov. 19
          Executive Order: President Bush Designates The ITER International Fusion Energy Organization As a Public International Organization

          Nov. 13
          Executive Order: Improving Government Program Performance

          Oct. 20
          Executive Order: Protection of Striped Bass and Red Drum Fish Populations

          Oct. 19
          Executive Order: Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Burma

          Sept. 28
          Executive Order: Continuance of Certain Federal Advisory Committees and Amendments to and Revocation of Other Executive Orders

          Sept. 28
          Executive Order: Further 2007 Amendments to the Manual for Courts Martial, United States

          Sept. 27
          Executive Order: Strengthening Adult Education

          Sept. 12
          Executive Order: Extending Privileges and Immunities to the African Union Mission to the United States

          Aug. 17
          Executive Order: Facilitation of Hunting Heritage and Wildlife Conservation

          Aug. 13
          Executive Order: Amending the Order of Succession in the Department of Homeland Security

          Aug. 2
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of Lebanon or Its Democratic Processes and Institutions

          Jul. 20
          Executive Order: Interpretation of the Geneva Conventions Common Article 3 as Applied to a Program of Detention and Interrogation Operated by the Central Intelligence Agency

          Jul. 18
          Executive Order: Establishing An Interagency Working Group on Import Safety

          Jul. 17
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

          Jun. 29
          Executive Order: Further Amending Executive Order 13381, as Amended, to Extend Its Duration by One Year

          Jun. 29
          Executive Order: Waiver Under the Trade Act of 1974 with Respect to Turkmenistan

          Jun. 20
          Executive Order: Expanding Approved Stem Cell Lines in Ethically Responsible Ways

          May 17
          Executive Order: National Security Professional Development

          May 16
          Executive Order: Protecting American Taxpayers From Payment of Contingency Fees

          May 14
          Fact Sheet: Twenty in Ten: Strengthening Energy Security and Addressing Climate Change

          May 14
          Executive Order: Cooperation Among Agencies in Protecting the Environment with Respect to Greenhouse Gas Emissions From Motor Vehicles, Nonroad Vehicles, and Nonroad Engines

          May 9
          Executive Order: Establishment of Temporary Organization to Facilitate United States Government Assistance for Transition in Iraq

          Apr. 18
          Executive Order: 2007 Amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States

          Apr. 4
          Executive Order: Establishing An Emergency Board to Investigate a Dispute Between Metro-North Railroad and Its Maintenance of Way Employees Represented by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters

          Apr. 2
          Executive Order: Renaming a National Forest in the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico

          Mar. 7
          Executive Order: Extending Privileges and Immunities to the Permanent Observer Mission of the Holy See to the United Nations

          Mar. 6
          Executive Order: Establishing a Commission on Care for America's Returning Wounded Warriors and a Task Force on Returning Global War on Terror Heroes

          Feb. 14
          Executive Order Trial of Alien Unlawful Enemy Combatants by Military Commission

          Jan. 26
          Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 13285, Relating to the President's Council on Service and Civic Participation

          Jan. 24
          Executive Order: Strengthening Federal Environmental, Energy, and Transportation Management

          Jan. 18
          Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 12866 on Regulatory Planning and Review

          2006

          Dec. 28
          Executive Order: Providing for the Closing of Government Departments and Agencies on January 2, 2007

          Dec. 21
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 20
          Executive Order: National Aeronautics Research and Development

          Dec. 14
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13317, Volunteers for Prosperity

          Dec. 6
          Executive Order Establishing An Emergency Board to Investigate Disputes Between Metro-North Railroad and Certain of Its Employees Represented by Certain Labor Organizations

          Dec. 5
          Executive Order: Strengthening Surface Transportation Security

          Dec. 1
          Executive Order: Assignment of Certain Pay-Related Functions

          Nov. 3
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13402, Strengthening Federal Efforts to Protect Against Identity Theft

          Oct. 31
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

          Oct. 13
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of and Prohibiting Transactions with the Government of Sudan

          Aug. 29
          Executive Order: Improving Assistance for Disaster Victims

          Aug. 22
          Executive Order: Promoting Quality and Efficient Health Care in Federal Government Administered or Sponsored Health Care Programs

          Jul. 3
          Executive Order: Establishing An Emergency Board to Investigate a Dispute Between Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority and Its Locomotive Engineers Represented by the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

          Jun. 29
          Executive Order Amending Executive Order 13381, as Amended, to Extend Its Duration by One Year

          Jun. 26
          Executive Order: Public Alert and Warning System

          Jun. 23
          Executive Order: Protecting the Property Rights of the American People

          Jun. 19
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus

          Jun. 7
          Executive Order: Task Force on New Americans

          May 12
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Orders 11030, 13279, 13339, 13381, and 13389, and Revocation of Executive Order 13011

          May 10
          Executive Order: Strengthening Federal Efforts to Protect Against Identity Theft

          Apr. 27
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Persons in Connection with the Conflict in Sudan's Darfur Region

          Apr. 27
          Executive Order: Responsibilities of Federal Departments and Agencies with Respect to Volunteer Community Service

          Apr. 26
          Executive Order Blocking Property of Additional Persons in Connection with the National Emergency with Respect to Syria

          Apr. 18
          Executive Order: National Mathematics Advisory Panel

          Mar. 7
          Executive Order: Responsibilities of the Department of Homeland Security with Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

          Feb. 8
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Côte D'Ivoire

          Jan. 13
          Executive Order: Designating the Global Fund to Fight Aids, Tuberculosis and Malaria as a Public International Organization Entitled to Enjoy Certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities

          2005

          Dec. 22
          Executive Order: Providing An Order of Succession Within the Department of Defense

          Dec. 22
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 14
          Executive Order: Improving Agency Disclosure of Information

          Nov. 23
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Additional Persons Undermining Democratic Process or Institutions in Zimbabwe

          Nov. 1
          Executive Order: Creation of the Gulf Coast Recovery and Rebuilding Council

          Nov. 1
          Executive Order: Establishment of a Coordinator of Federal Support for the Recovery and Rebuilding of the Gulf Coast Region

          Oct. 25
          Executive Order: Further Strengthening the Sharing of Terrorism Information to Protect Americans

          Oct. 14
          Executive Order: 2005 Amendments to the Manual for Courts Martial, United States

          Sept. 30
          Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 13369, Relating to the President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform

          Sept. 30
          Executive Order: Continuance of Certain Federal Advisory Committees and Amendments to and Revocation of Other Executive Orders

          Jul. 27
          Executive Order: Assignment of Functions Relating to Original Appointments as Commissioned Officers and Chief Warrant Officer Appointments in the Armed Forces

          Jul. 15
          Executive Order: Amending Executive Orders 12139 and 12949 in Light of Establishment of the Office of Director of National Intelligence

          Jun. 29
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferators and Their Supporters

          Jun. 28
          Executive Order: Strengthening Processes Relating to Determining Eligibility for Access to Classified National Security Information

          Jun. 17
          Executive Order: Implementing Amendments to Agreement on Border Environment Cooperation Commission and North American Development Bank

          Jun. 16
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13369, Relating to the President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform

          May 12
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 12788 Relating to the Defense Economic Adjustment Program

          Apr. 13
          Executive Order: Designating the African Union as a Public International Organization Entitled to Enjoy Certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities

          Apr. 13
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 12863

          Apr. 1
          Executive Order: Amendment to E.O. 13295 Relating to Certain Influenza Viruses and Quarantinable Communicable Diseases

          Mar. 14
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 12293

          Mar. 10
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 11926 Relating to the Vice Presidential Service Badge

          Feb. 16
          Executive Order: Clarification of Certain Executive Orders Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions

          Jan. 27
          Executive Order: Amendments to Executive Order 13285

          Jan. 13
          Executive Order: Providing An Order of Succession in the Office of Management and Budget

          Jan. 7
          Personnel Announcement

          Jan. 7
          Executive Order: President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform

          2004

          Dec. 30
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 21
          Executive Order: United States-Mexico Border Health Commission

          Dec. 17
          Executive Order: Committee on Ocean Policy

          Dec. 3
          Executive Order: 2004 Amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States

          Nov. 29
          Executive Order: Modifying the Protection Granted to the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest and Protecting the Central Bank of Iraq

          Nov. 29
          Executive Order: Establishing the Afghanistan and Iraq Campaign Medals

          Nov. 29
          Executive Order: Designation of Additional Officers for the Department of Homeland Security Order of Succession

          Oct. 21
          Executive Order: Service-Disabled Veterans Executive Order

          Oct. 21
          Executive Order: Central San Joaquin Valley

          Oct. 19
          Executive Order: Notice Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to Significant Narcotics Traffickers Centered in Colombia

          Sept. 28
          Executive Order: Assignment of Functions Relating to Certain Appointments, Promotions, and Commissions in the Armed Forces

          Sept. 20
          Message to the Congress of the United States

          Sept. 20
          Executive Order: Termination of Emergency Declared in Executive Order 12543 With Respect to the Policies and Actions of the Government of Libya and Revocation of Related Executive Orders

          Aug. 27
          Executive Order: Strengthened Management of the Intelligence Community

          Aug. 27
          Executive Order National Counterterrorism Center

          Aug. 27
          Executive Order Strengthening the Sharing of Terrorism Information to Protect Americans

          Aug. 27
          Executive Order Establishing the President's Board on Safeguarding Americans' Civil Liberties

          Aug. 26
          Executive Order Facilitation of Cooperative Conservation

          Jul. 29
          Executive Order

          Jul. 23
          Executive Order: Amending the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology to Serve as the National Nanotechnology Advisory Panel

          Jul. 23
          Executive Order Blocking Property of Certain Persons and Prohibiting the Importation of Certain Goods From Liberia

          Jul. 22
          Executive Order: Individuals with Disabilities in Emergency Preparedness

          Jul. 15
          President Bush Signs Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act

          Jul. 8
          Executive Order Delegation of Certain Waiver, Determination, Certification, Recommendation, and Reporting Functions

          Jul. 8
          Executive Order Assigning Foreign Affairs Functions and Implementing the Enterprise for the Americas Initiative and the Tropical Forest Conservation Act

          Jul. 7
          Executive Order: Amending Executive Order 13261 on the Order of Succession in the Environmental Protection Agency

          Jun. 24
          Notice Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Western Balkans

          Jun. 6
          Executive Order Providing for the Closing of Government Departments and Agencies on June 11, 2004

          Jun. 1
          Executive Order: Responsibilities of the Department of Commerce and Veterans Affairs and the Small Business Administration with Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

          May 20
          Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 11023, Providing for the Performance by the Secretary of Commerce of Certain Functions Relating to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

          May 18
          Executive Order: Establishment of Great Lakes Interagency Task Force and Promotion of a Regional Collaboration of National Significance for the Great Lakes

          May 13
          Executive Order: Increasing Economic Opportunity and Business Participation of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders

          May 11
          Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons and Prohibiting the Export of Certain Goods to Syria

          Apr. 30
          Executive Order: Issuance of Permits with Respect to Certain Energy-Related Facilities and Land Transportation Crossings on the International Boundaries of the United States

          Apr. 30
          Executive Order: American Indian and Alaska Native Education

          Apr. 27
          Executive Order: Incentives for the Use of Health Information Technology and Establishing the Position of the National Health Information Technology Coordinator

          Mar. 18
          Executive Order: Amending Executive Order 13257 to Implement the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2003

          Mar. 3
          Executive Order: Further Adjustment of Certain Rates of Pay

          Feb. 27
          Executive Order: National and Community Service Programs

          Feb. 24
          Executive Order: Human Service Transportation Coordination

          Feb. 24
          Executive Order: Encouraging Innovation in Manufacturing

          Feb. 6
          Executive Order: Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction

          Feb. 4
          Executive Order: Federal Real Property Asset Management

          Jan. 30
          Executive Order: President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy

          Jan. 23
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 12293, the Foreign Service of the United States

          Jan. 16
          Executive Order: Termination of Emergency with Respect to Sierra Leone and Liberia

          2003

          Dec. 30
          Executive Order Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 30
          Executive Order Assignment of Functions Relating to Arrivals in and Departures from the United States

          Dec. 17
          Executive Order Appointments During National Emergency

          Dec. 9
          Executive Order

          Dec. 5
          Executive Order

          Nov. 21
          Executive Order

          Sept. 25
          Executive Order Volunteers for Prosperity

          Sept. 17
          Order Designation Under Executive Order 12958

          Sept. 17
          Executive Order

          Aug. 29
          Executive Order

          Aug. 22
          Statement on Executive Order 13224

          Aug. 8
          Executive Order

          Jul. 31
          Executive Order

          Jul. 29
          Executive Order

          Jul. 29
          Executive Order: HSIS

          Jul. 28
          Executive Order

          Jul. 25
          Executive Act on Intellectual Disabilities

          Jun. 20
          Executive Order

          May 29
          Executive Order

          May 29
          Executive Order: European Central Bank

          May 29
          Executive Order Establishing the Bob Hope American Patriot Award

          May 22
          Executive Order

          May 16
          Executive Order Amending Executive Order 13212, Actions to Expedite Energy-Related Projects

          May 14
          Executive Order

          May 9
          Executive Order: Facilitating the Administration of Justice in the Federal Courts

          May 8
          Executive Order Interagency Group on Insular Areas

          May 7
          Executive Order

          Apr. 23
          Executive Order

          Apr. 18
          Executive Order

          Mar. 28
          Executive Order

          Mar. 28
          Executive Order

          Mar. 25
          Executive Order

          Mar. 24
          Executive Order: Further Adjustment of Certain Rates of Pay

          Mar. 20
          Executive Order: Confiscating and Vesting Certain Iraqi Property

          Mar. 12
          Establishing the Global War on Terrorism Medals

          Mar. 7
          Executive Order: Blocking Property Of Persons Undermining Democratic Processes Or Institutions In Zimbabwe

          Mar. 4
          Executive Order: Preserve America

          Feb. 28
          Executive Order Amendment of Executive Orders, and Other Actions, in Connection with the Transfer of Certain Functions to the Secretary of Homeland Security

          Jan. 30
          Executive Order: President's Council on Service and Civic Participation

          Jan. 24
          Executive Order

          Jan. 21
          Executive Order: Establishing the Office of Global Communications

          2002

          Dec. 31
          Executive Order

          Dec. 19
          Executive Order: Half-Day Closing of Executive Departments and Agencies of the Federal Government on Tuesday, December 24, 2002

          Dec. 12
          Executive Order: Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-based and Community Organizations

          Dec. 12
          Executive Order: Responsibilities of the Department of Agriculture and the Agency for International Development with Respect to Faith-based and Community Initiatives

          Dec. 11
          Executive Order: President's Commission on the United States Postal Service

          Nov. 20
          Executive Order: Delegation of Certain Authorities and Assignment of Certain Functions Under the Trade Act of 2002

          Nov. 15
          Executive Order Regarding Undocumented Aliens in the Caribbean Region

          Oct. 7
          Executive Order: Creating a Board of Inquiry to Report on Certain Labor Disputes Affecting the Maritime Industry of the United States

          Sept. 18
          Executive Order: Environmental Stewardship and Transportation Infrastructure Project Reviews

          Aug. 29
          Executive Order: Further Amending Executive Order 10173, as Amended, Prescribing Regulations Relating to the Safeguarding of Vessels, Harbors, Ports, and Waterfront Facilities of the United States

          Aug. 13
          Executive Order: Proper Consideration of Small Entities in Agency Rulemaking

          Jul. 9
          Executive Order Establishment of the Corporate Fraud Task Force

          Jul. 3
          Expedited Naturalization Executive Order

          Jul. 3
          Taliban Executive Order

          Jun. 20
          Executive Order

          Jun. 20
          Executive Order: President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports

          Jun. 20
          Executive Order: Activities to Promote Personal Fitness

          Jun. 6
          Executive Order Amendment to Executive Order 13180, Air Traffic Performance-Based Organization

          Apr. 29
          Executive Order: President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health

          Apr. 12
          Executive Order -- 2002 Amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States

          Mar. 21
          Homeland Security Council Executive Order

          Mar. 19
          Executive Order Providing An Order of Succession in the Environmental Protection Agency and Amending Certain Orders on Succession

          Feb. 12
          Advisors for Historically Black Colleges and Universities

          Feb. 7
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13227, President's Commission on Excellence in Special Education

          Jan. 30
          Establishing the USA Freedom Corps

          Jan. 17
          Amendment to Executive Order 13223

          Jan. 7
          Exclusions from the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program

          2001

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession in the Department of Veterans Affairs

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of State

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Labor

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Housing and Urban Development

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Health and Human Services

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Interior

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at the Department of Commerce

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession at Department of Agriculture

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order: Adjustments of Certain Rates of Pay

          Dec. 29
          Executive Order on Succession in Department of Treasury

          Dec. 28
          Executive Orders on Succession in Federal Agencies

          Dec. 27
          Normal Trade Relations Treatment Executive Order

          Dec. 21
          Council of Europe in Respect of the Group of States Against Corruption

          Dec. 20
          Executive Order Establishing An Emergency Board

          Dec. 14
          Afghanistan Combat Zone Executive Order

          Dec. 6
          Executive Order for Federal Government Closure on Dec 24

          Nov. 28
          Executive Order: Creation of the President's Council on Bioethics

          Nov. 27
          Executive Order Waiver of Dual Compensation Provisions of the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement Act of 1964

          Nov. 16
          National Emergency Construction Authority Executive Order

          Nov. 13
          President Issues Military Order

          Nov. 9
          Citizen Preparedness in War on Terrorism Executive Order

          Nov. 1
          Presidential Records Act Executive Order

          Oct. 22
          Executive Order for Dept of Health and Human Services

          Oct. 16
          Executive Order on Critical Infrastructure Protection

          Oct. 12
          Educational Excellence for Hispanic Americans Commission

          Oct. 8
          Executive Order Establishing Office of Homeland Security

          Oct. 3
          Executive Order on Excellence in Special Education

          Oct. 1
          Continuance of Federal Advisory Committees

          Oct. 1
          President Signs PCAST Executive Order

          Sept. 24
          Executive Order on Terrorist Financing

          Sept. 14
          President Orders Ready Reserves of Armed Forces to Active Duty

          Aug. 17
          Executive Order on Export Control Regulations

          Jul. 31
          Energy Efficient Standby Power Devices

          Jul. 2
          Executive Order

          Jun. 20
          President Bush Issues Executive Order Regarding 21st Century Workforce Initiative

          Jun. 19
          President Bush Issues Executive Order Regarding Community-Based Alternatives for Individuals with Disabilities

          Jun. 6
          Executive Order: Amendment To Executive Order 13125

          Jun. 1
          Executive Order

          May 29
          President's Task Force to Improve Health Care Delivery for Our Nation's Veterans

          May 23
          Executive Order: Additional Measures with Respect to Prohibiting the Importation of Rough Diamonds from Sierra Leone

          May 18
          Executive Order: Actions Concerning Regulations That Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use

          May 18
          Executive Order: Actions to Expedite Energy-Related Projects

          May 2
          Executive Order: President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security

          Apr. 30
          Executive Order: Establishment of the President's Task Force on Puerto Rico's Status

          Apr. 6
          Executive Order: Amendment to Executive Order 13202

          Apr. 5
          Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 10000

          Apr. 4
          Executive Order: Termination of Emergency Authority For Certain Export Controls

          Mar. 9
          Executive Order: Establishing an Emergency Board

          Feb. 21
          Executive Order on Preservation of Open Competition and Government Neutrality Towards Government Contractors' Labor Relations on Federal and Federally Funded Construction Projects

          Feb. 21
          Executive Order on Notification of Employee Rights Concerning Payment of Union Dues or Fees

          Feb. 21
          Executive Order: Revocation of Executive Order on Nondisplacement of Qualified Workers under Certain Contracts

          Feb. 21
          Executive Order and Presidential Memorandum Concerning Labor-Management Partnerships

          Feb. 12
          Executive Order on the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee

          Jan. 29
          Agency Responsibilities with Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

          Jan. 29
          Executive Order: Establishment of White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

          • 6 votes
          #2.118 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

          Bob ,just another highly educated Liberal.

          • 3 votes
          #2.119 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

          The majority of you Posters should be on posters. . .for the anti-illiteracy program, that is. These "DREAMers" were born here, raised here and, provided they meet the criteria outlined and that criteria is more than fair, will be allowed to live in their own homeland, America The Beautiful. Your contempt for these Americans is shameful and downright ridiculous. The advancement of this segment of our populace is good for every single solitary American concerned. Oh, and do you really think giving someone a work permit assures them of getting and retaining a job? It's merely a legal way to ensure their RIGHT to get a job in the U.S., and to remove any stigma or concern about their legal residency in their own homeland, America The Beautiful. Seriously, the majority of you need immediate spiritual and psychological intervention. Your brains are baked and your hearts have turned to stone. As to your lack of comprehension, that's a severe personal problem but one that can be remedied if you care to buy a clue. Good Lord! How much Haterade do you people consume per day? Pathetic!

          • 2 votes
          #2.120 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

          YellowDog--

          United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that virtually everyone born in the United States is a U.S. citizen. This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.

          Wong Kim Ark, who was born in the United States to Chinese parents around 1871, had been denied re-entry to the U.S. after a trip abroad, under a law restricting Chinese immigration and prohibiting immigrants from China from becoming naturalized U.S. citizens. He challenged the government's refusal to recognize his citizenship, and the Supreme Court ruled in his favor, holding that the citizenship language in the Fourteenth Amendment encompassed essentially everyone born in the U.S.—even the U.S.-born children of foreigners—and could not be limited in its effect by an act of Congress.

          --------------------------------------

          nice job on the creative interpretation above. children BORN in the US is what this applies to. this thing Obama mandated applies to children BROUGHT here. please take some reading comprehension courses

          • 4 votes
          #2.121 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

          asknreceive, do you even know why that amendment was added, wasn't for illegal immigration i

          • 1 vote
          #2.122 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

          Tiger Barnes - ok I am not familiar with all this political stuff but i do know that this country was founded by people that wanted to be free of government ruling. We didnt want to be told what to do by government officials. with that being said, I think all he wants is to ruin this country. and we are letting it happen. We are supposedly supposed to run this country. WE THE PEOPLE should unite once and for all and take back what was fought for us so many years ago. We just keep letting them run over all of us as a nation. Its noones fault but our own for letting it happen.

          Too late, President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Act makes you by Definition a "Homegrown Domestic Terrorist". As "Anyone stating a radical change to (US) Government is a Homegrown Domestic Terrorist".

          • 2 votes
          #2.123 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

          They cannot vote....they are not American citizens...they cannot vote....pay attention people....

          Obama will not be getting any of their votes. they are not citizens.....please read and do not jump to where every one of them will vote....they cannot vote....!!!!!!!

            #2.124 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

            starsailing: "This is pretty funny...all you anti President Obama now screaming your heads off and all worried about the middle class and poor today and their jobs, yet yesterday and previous to this decision, you support Romney and repubs that want to kill all of the plans that support the middle class and poor. HYPOCRISY MUCH?" You are a socialist indeed! Just your language assumes that people can't survive without the government. Your assumption is that if the government "gives" free money to people that that will help them. The problem with your argument is that it doesn't work nor has it ever worked. Government will only take care of people who cannot take care of themselves. For those who are capable of taking care of themselves, yet choose to rely on government, always end up the worse for it. And I mean ALWAYS! The fact is that people from all over the world have come to the US seeking the opportunities that this country offers. The opportunities doesn't mean being taken care of by the government. It does mean the opportunity to get ahead in the world by having the opportunity to make money. None of Obama's policies encourage people to make as much as they can. They are all directed at transferring money from those who make it to those who don't. Want an example? Just look at his unemployment policies. He has constantly pushed to extend unemployment benefits. Now, if you had the opportunity to sit on your arse for 40 hours a week and collect $350 or work for 40 hours and collect $400, which would you do? Would you really want to work for $1.25 an hour plus spend up to $400 a month for gas to make the additional $50 a week? If you were forced to work 40 hours a week for $300 or do nothing and receive nothing, which would you prefer to do? So, if the government stopped coddling to the lowest common denominator and actually encouraged businesses to employ people, which would you rather see? The problem with libs is that they fail to understand economics. Libs believe that the job of a business owner is to provide jobs. But, the people who go into business do so to make money. So, if you take money out of the hands of those who want to make money, then they are not going to create jobs. Would you? Are you really going to spend more money because you have less money in your pocket? Oh, and don't make the mistake of thinking that politicians who seek to control such matters are benevolent. They know damn well that by controlling such matters it gives them control and power. Any idea what happens when a politician has power? A clue: They receive more money in contributions from people who seek to buy the politician to vote for things they want. So, you want to help the poor and the middle class? Don't put obstacles in the the way of people who want to hire them.

              #2.125 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

              @bill1488. You are quite a bit off-base. Manufacturing jobs aren't leaving the US PRIMARILY because of regulations. This is a secondary issue at best, more like fourth of fifth down the line. The primary reason manufacturing jobs are leaving the US is because it is in fact cheaper to produce items in China or some second or third world country. When their labor force is willing to work for a very small percentage of what we will trade for labor, your cost(s) of production will be significantly less. Lower labor costs mean either cheaper goods or greater profits. Usually both.

              If by burdened by regulations you mean that we demand safe working conditions, pollution standards, etc., then sure, we have regulations. If you are willing to work for ten percent of what you currently do and give up your labor rights and the environment be damned, then I'm willing to buy into your thesis.

              Otherwise, you are pretty far off base.

                #2.126 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

                Amnesty is fine....for the 2016 Elections....no ID in 2012....no vote in 2012...uphold your own law's BHO!

                Getting desperate are we, Evolving & Amnesty for votes..........what or who will you pander to next ??

                • 3 votes
                #2.127 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

                Skullbones, he'll pander to anyone or anything that might even mean ONE extra votes for his little punk@$$, even if it means doingsomething ILLEGAL, like letting those here ILLEGALLY vote by pretending to be citizens. This desperate fool will do ANYTHING to hold his power!

                • 1 vote
                #2.128 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:50 PM EDT

                hs321

                LMarcT....read up and down these comments. Many democrats are opposed to this as well. Are they also bigots?

                No, and neither are most Republicans. I was just stating that this will bring those that are to the forefront.

                I would hope that this executive order causes such distress that it causes Congress to finally do their job and to create a long term immigration solution. But, seriously...

                  #2.129 - Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:52 AM EDT

                  Regarding the 14th Amendment, this guy makes the point succinctly:

                  Comment by MrLonandB Aug. 5, 2010 8:20 a.m.

                  Anyone can make any argument they choose. To support your argument, you can hand-pick what so-and-so said to support your argument and ignore anything that runs contrary to your argument -- anyone can do this about anything they choose.

                  But the bottom line regarding the argument about what the 14th Amendment was intended for only requires the application of common sense and reasoning. Everyone on this board should be able to understand that the Congress of the United States that passed the 14th Amendment, did not do so with any inclination whatsoever that the amendment would provide for automatic citizenship for children born of foreign invaders and trespassers in the country -- everyone has enough common sense to know this. Additionally, there was no way on Earth that the states would have approved of any such amendment that was intended to allow children of foreign invaders to have automatic citizenship and residency in their state -- anyone at least half as smart as Jethro Bodine understands that immediately.

                  So you can come out here and play word games with the 14th and you can quote and parse which Supreme Court judge said what -- you can do that until the cows come home. But anyone with even a sliver of common sense and understanding can easily recognize that the 14th amendment to the Constitution was not meant to ensure that third-world trespassers could pump-out babies and wham...instant American citizenship! No one is genuinely that stupid!

                    #2.130 - Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:39 PM EDT
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                    Comment author avatarJob1Restored

                    That is good news. Leadership!

                    • 27 votes
                    #3 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

                    You and the rest of the crazy liberal better watch out. These illegals are taking over. Pretty soon, it will be the United States of Mexico. Leadership? He is giving away our country to these Mexicans who should have no rights whatsoever. He is the worst president we have ever elected - change hell, we need a man who thinks of the American people first then others.

                    • 73 votes
                    #3.1 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

                    Kowtowing to illegal immigrants is leadership? Wow, you really drank a lot of Kool Aid to believe that.

                    NObama 2012!

                    • 78 votes
                    #3.2 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

                    So the _resident is now pandering for votes.

                    This move was predictable -

                    • 42 votes
                    #3.3 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                    great name, do you even have a job? idiot

                    • 13 votes
                    #3.4 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                    What's Willard gonna do?

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.5 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                    Leadership? I think you need to look up what Leadership is and what it means. The only thing this does is spit in the face of all LEGAL immigrates, who have worked hard and earned the right to be in this great country.

                    I wonder how Mexico would react if I crossed the border illegally, got a job, didn't pay taxes and screamed that I deserve to be compensated for being in their country and I want the same rights as citizens?

                    • 40 votes
                    #3.6 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

                    Isn't this specific to children whom had no choice in whether or not they were brought across the border and have since been raised and have grown up here in America?

                    Is it such a bad thing to let these now-adults stay where they've been raised?

                    Aside from the whole, "he's doing it to get re-elected" thing, as that's the painfully obvious intention, but the policy itself doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.

                    • 11 votes
                    #3.7 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                    Is this ridiculous or what? I have been living in this country legally for past 12 years. My Green card or permanent residency dream is already vanishing due to outdated immigration policy. Now, my queue is pushed further back by these folks who stayed here illegally.

                    I have to prepare my 4 year old, who thinks this is her home and US is her home country, and 2 year old to get used to the life in India. I guess you never get ahead if you do things in the right way.

                    • 33 votes
                    #3.8 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                    Job1, you are an idiot. Once again, read a Social Studies book from 3rd grade (offered in most public schools) or a simple goverment book. Or hell, why not just google how the branches of government work together?

                    Stop being a dumb@$$

                    • 23 votes
                    #3.9 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                    An illegal is a criminal.
                    End of story.

                    • 25 votes
                    #3.10 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

                    The Obama administration announced on Friday that it would no longer seek the deportation of most young illegal immigrants, and would instead allow them to apply for work permits, a significant policy shift with potentially major electoral implications.

                    Good news, more or less what the other side has done and what Rubio is trying to do in Florida. The key words are "most young illegal immigrants". I have to handed to this President, he speaks with fork tong. Just like he evolved on Gay marriage but it will be at the State Level.

                    • 9 votes
                    #3.11 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                    I am waiting on details.

                      #3.12 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

                      Job 1, Remember the Titanic had a leader too!!

                      • 15 votes
                      #3.13 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

                      What a bunch of heartless people on this site!!! Not to mention brainwashed and prejudice as hell. The crap about how they are taking our jobs, that is so fricken rediculous! Anyone that tries hard enough to get a job will get one and yet there are many of our own citizens that are unemployed due to heavy drug use or just plain lazy! No one is stealing jobs....that is the common thing every sheep says because they heard it or read it from the media. The media likes to stir up controversy to see how many sheep they captured this week! So keep on Sheep!!!! Follow the leader......

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.14 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                      Hey michael72, there's this thing going on called a recession. That means there are fewer jobs than there are people that need them. Get a clue. Obama should be embarrassed to have people like you as supporters.

                      • 7 votes
                      #3.15 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                      Obama just made a lot of friends. They're all COMMUNISTS from Latin America.

                      • 4 votes
                      #3.16 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

                      @michael72 said:

                      "So keep on Sheep!!!! Follow the leader......"

                      Noticed how you fell neatly and predictably into line michael. Bravo!

                      BaaaaaaaBaaaaaa!!!!!!

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.18 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

                      FLASHBACK: 'The notion that somehow, by myself, I can do these things, it's just not true'...

                      Barrack Kardashian Obama has commited a lawless act.

                      ONLY Congress can make immigration policy. Obama admitted that very fact prior. ( at the link).

                      • 4 votes
                      #3.19 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                      Attrition Through Enforcement ( Mitt Romney Plan)

                      The principle behind Attrition Through Enforcement is that living illegally in the United States will become more difficult and less satisfying over time when the government – at ALL LEVELS – enforces all of the laws already on the books. The goal is to make it extremely difficult for unauthorized persons to live and work in the United States. There is no need for taxpayers to watch the government spend billions of their dollars to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.

                      It works! It works in every state that tries it.

                      We know Attrition Through Enforcement works because, in states that have passed tough new laws to penalize employers of and deny public benefits to illegal aliens, the illegal aliens began to move out of those states, often before the new laws are even implemented.

                      • 4 votes
                      #3.20 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                      Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’

                      By Eric Scheiner
                      October 19, 2011
                      Subscribe to Eric Scheiner's posts

                      (CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.21 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

                      I can see it on Leno or SNL already. "How many illegal immigrants does it take to elect the President of the United States." Let me be clear. No Bama.

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.22 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

                      I'm glad my great grandparents came over from Europe when they did. All they needed was a ride. Once they got here, they were processed through Ellis Island. Didn't need much in the way of identification, just got an examination by a doctor to ensure they were not carriers of disease and the welcome mat was rolled out. It was pretty much that simple.

                      My how times have changed.

                      Has anyone stopped to think about why illegals come to this country? The common thread here is that they seem to be taking away jobs of more deserving citizens. The problem as I see it isn't the fact that they are looking for work, the problem here is that business owners in search of higher profit margins hire them at below market rates. Since very few of these "illegals" don't own property, they probably rent. Who do they rent from?

                      If you want them to leave - a) don't hire them & b) don't rent your property to them. It seems to me that they aren't the problem - we are.

                        #3.23 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

                        Times certainly have changed haven't they! Now instead of incoming immigrants getting checked for diseases, they bring them in when they cross the borders illegally and spread them around. Notice that measles, whooping cough, etc..., diseases that we haven't seen much of lately are making a come back? How are all these illegal children getting into our schools without their immunization records?

                        Illegals are taking jobs away from citizens, but it is true that if they couldn't get work they wouldn't be here. If the government was enforcing the immigration and labor laws, how many of these greedy business owners do you think would find that the price they would have to pay if caught utilizing their new found "slave labor" would outweigh the benefits?

                        It's gotten to the point of being absolutely ridiculous. You could go onto any construction site in this state looking for work and not be able to find a single person that is willing to speak English to you long enough to point you toward the person who does the hiring.

                        To me, the answer would be to not only fine the business owners using them, make them financially responsible for the deportation costs of each and every one of the illegals they get caught with on their job sites. They get caught a second time and they get their business license pulled. Take the profit margin out of hiring illegals and they wouldn't be hired.

                        No one is stealing jobs....that is the common thing every sheep says because they heard it or read it from the media. The media likes to stir up controversy to see how many sheep they captured this week! So keep on Sheep!!!! Follow the leader......

                        michael72, some of us aren't just hearing or reading about this problem in the media, we are living it every day. Just because something is not directly affecting you at this point in time does not mean that it doesn't exist. Sounds like you are the one that is a sheep, and part of Obama's flock too! Take the blinders off buddy and look around you...we have a real problem with undocumented immigrants in this country and the economy is not going to get any better here until we start putting Americans to work rather than non citizens.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.24 - Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                        Obama did exactly what Reagan did and what Rubio proposes.

                        Are Reagan and Rubio wrong too?

                          #3.25 - Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:03 AM EDT
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                          Comment author avatarSteve-3200687Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          King Obama does it again. No need to have a constitution or congress or anything. He just decrees the law and does whatever he wants. Right or wrong, he alone decides. Good bye America, you are finished as a constitutional republic.

                          • 144 votes
                          #4 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:24 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          That is what the constitution allows the President to do. Remember, someone has to lead.

                          • 21 votes
                          #4.1 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

                          Obama is a clown playacting as president. I would make a better president then this fool.

                          • 83 votes
                          #4.2 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:30 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatarkalabeanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Yes, Steve you are absolutely right, This is Obozo's new scheme to get him re-elected. God Bless America NOW more than ever.

                          • 62 votes
                          #4.3 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

                          No... The amendment to bills has to pass in the Congress or be overturned by the Court... The President needs approval... It is called checks and balances... Actually read and understand the law of the land before you spit "knowledge"

                          • 31 votes
                          #4.4 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          I think you are limited in you skills. Perhaps you could manage a road side rest area.

                          • 10 votes
                          #4.5 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                          Lead when in agreement with the other 2 branches of governemnt. He's not the only one in charge. He should be on par with the Legislative and the Judicial Branch. Something called checks and balances which was made solely for the purpose of allowing 1 head gaining all power. This is basic education taught in grade school. I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots.

                          • 26 votes
                          #4.6 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                          You, me and everybody else! But we're stuck with Mitt ?

                          • 8 votes
                          #4.7 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

                          Great post Steve! Where is the outrage that Obama continually tramples on the US Constitution!

                          • 60 votes
                          #4.8 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

                          Steve is right. Our forfathers are rolling in there graves right now.

                          • 38 votes
                          #4.9 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatarWatermoonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Hell, Job1 would be a better president than this fool!

                          • 13 votes
                          #4.10 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                          Hello Mr. Turnip truck but it appears that you dropped a rider off this morning. His name is Job1. Are you serious? We cant even take care of the people here legally and the ones that were born here. When we have so much money we dont know what to do with it, then you can debate this. But right now? Idiots. If your so hell bent on having them here then house them in your home and pay for them.

                          • 33 votes
                          #4.11 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

                          Obama has no idea what the hecht he is doing. Everything he does FAILS . He is NO LEADER at all. Go against the Constitution is typical for Obama. Another want to be Hitler. Liberals are his sheep with no clue as to what this man has done and is doing to our country. Come on November, to burst Barry's bubble. Mitt 2012, to regain the American dream by rebuilding America!

                          • 40 votes
                          #4.12 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:37 AM EDT

                          cry baby, he did this because is within his limit.

                          • 5 votes
                          #4.13 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                          Hell, Job1 would be a better president than this fool!

                          Watermoon, don't get me wrong, Obama is the worst President we've ever had.... and Job1 (like Barry) has never had a real job in the private sector, or any other job... but despite their similarities, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't want to take that risk... lol!

                          • 17 votes
                          #4.14 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                          Job1 must be a cash paid Owebama supporter. He or she must be an actor or very well off, with no children growing up to a country of increasing college costs (free for illegals, from what I have seen), jobs (given to illegals) and a very good pension or retirement (definitely not looking at living off of social security or having paid into the fund for a lifetime).

                          I have not problem with those that are in the military service, but I do not cater to others before taking care of my own family. ... Oops, Job1 may not be an American citizen... Did I let the cat out of the bag?

                          • 16 votes
                          #4.15 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

                          I'll remind you it was the Bush/Cheney administration that set the precedent for expanded presidential power. I predicted at the time that people like you would be shocked, shocked when a Democratic president takes advantage of the same practices...

                          • 13 votes
                          #4.16 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

                          I would think that the Immigrants who came here legally would be insulted by this. Does this include all Illegal Immigrants, canadian, iranian, ect... and as for job1 I would be happy to have a job as a roadside reststop manager. The state jobs do have very good benefits but unfortunately that would probably go to an illegal legal alien.

                          Steve for President!

                          • 19 votes
                          #4.17 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

                          Riiiight Job1. And your avatar stands for? That's what your politics have gotten you for the new job 1, a manager for a road side rest area. Just make sure those rest rooms are clean for the illegals to use when they move through the area to those waiting jobs the government has lined up for them.

                          • 8 votes
                          #4.18 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

                          Obama is leading us alright. Right over a cliff.

                          • 28 votes
                          #4.19 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

                          The US is toast.

                          • 18 votes
                          #4.20 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                          Job1, I would advise you to read the constitution and if you can find the part that gives the President the power to override a law that was passed by congress, signed by a sitting president and ruled constitutional by the courts.

                          When you find that can you please post it here for all to read!!!!

                          • 10 votes
                          #4.21 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                          @Job1 - do us all, and youself, a favor. Go out, right now, to the local junior college and take remedial constitutional law.

                          • 8 votes
                          #4.22 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

                          Obabma needs a wake-up call on the important issue of his lack of leadership regarding the unemployed. Let's hire illegals who are now "allowed" to be employed, at minimal costs to employers, that "Americans" need and want. Obama has shamed the presidency and will continue to do so if we do not vote him out of office. You can bet that the illegals will vote for him......again.

                          • 12 votes
                          #4.23 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                          This will throw some dirt in the wheels of AZ. laws regarding Illegal, what was that, ILLEGAL, Immigrants.

                          • 4 votes
                          #4.24 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

                          this is soooooo stupid....People in this country that have citizenship cant find jobs? and you want to allow more fuxs into the country to take more jobs? why let them have a job in our country? so they can instantly quit when they get citizenship and start collecting welfare...then bring over there brother cousin mother father all illegal and have them here using the welfare and taking other americans jobs for under the table pay checks? not paying taxes on the money they earn and hurting the american economy even more. i say get everyone out now that doesnt have citizen ship to help the americans who are here that cant find jobs! i also say quit wasting ym tax dollars on reliefers who can find a job just choose not 2, i say cut off their life line and make them work for what they are getting. make them work for what they have and if they dont make it dont give them pitty...give them what they deserve nothing... they take take take and never give back! wtf america lets go head and give them our tax dollars that should help keep school teachers employeed keep our roads smooth and pay the people to pave them. lets bring back out industy and stop out sourcing everything. we need industry here to bring back incomes and the middle class! and @!$%# the 1% they dont need 90 million dollars to play 3 or 4 years of baseball or foot ball...for singing 1 concert they shouldnt get 40K dollars doesnt matter who you are! america needs a big reality check and i bet it will come soon. bad thing is ill be dragged into it someway or another and all i want to do is keep the peace...where if i am dragged into it finacially or military i will be alive and find a way to live.

                          • 7 votes
                          #4.25 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                          How do you know they are asking for hands out?????? Do you personaly know some that does ???? What you are talking about is a MYTH ! Illegals do not get hands out ! Again, it is a lie from fox news and limbaugh ! They are doing your dirty work, moron ! South american people are NICE people, contrairly to most americans.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.26 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                          To all Democrat incumbents up for reelection this November:

                          Any one of you that remotely aligns himself with, or is endorsed by obama, will lose. He is that toxic.

                          • 13 votes
                          #4.27 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

                          cmon, msn, grow a pair. you delete entire threads over nothing.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.28 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

                          Come on November, to burst Barry's bubble. Mitt 2012, to regain the American dream by rebuilding America!

                          I hate to say it but Romney would have done the same thing if he thought it would get him votes. IO can't support either party given that they're both up to no good. Sadly both parties have made a mockery out of the American citizen and the citizens keep eating it up by rooting for their favorite team. I don't see a dose of common sense coming along and fixing this either. The Republicans and the Democrat could be doing much better but neither one has a profitable interest to do so.

                          Obama did this for the votes. Both parties would do it for the cheap labor that is going to send and already hurting middle class into a nose dive.

                          • 4 votes
                          #4.29 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                          Napolitano said that the shift represented neither immunity nor amnesty -- buzzwords for conservatives who oppose illegal immigration -- but instead represented an instance of "prosecutorial discretion"

                          So, in other words, it's mostly a semantic difference.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.30 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

                          this is the BEST thing Obama has done in regards to help human beings who have the right of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. We all are children of God, and immigrants don't deserve to be punished.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.31 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

                          It's not only rude of MSNBC but rather condescending of them to think our comments aren't worth the time and effort we put into writing them. You don't want comments? Then quit asking for them. Passive/aggresive and dysfunctional....just like most of America.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.32 - Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:52 AM EDT