2012 campaign could turn on uneven recovery in swing states

 

Despite the focus in recent days on matters of national security, supporters of both President Barack Obama and his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, tend to agree that November’s contest is likely to hinge on the economy. 

At a speech meant to pivot his campaign from the primary season to the general election, Romney said on April 24, “It’s still about the economy, and we’re not stupid.” It was a direct challenge to the president’s record and a move toward making the 2012 election a referendum on Obama’s economic stewardship.

The overall strength of the economy will be illuminated by new jobs data released Friday morning.

While the administration has been able to hang its hat on a series of somewhat positive economic indicators -- the declining unemployment rate, monthly jobs numbers and manufacturing industry recovery -- a potential slowdown in hiring could mean political peril.

But broad statistics don’t tell the whole story. Winning the presidency isn’t decided by national data; it’s decided in the Electoral College, and many of the most hotly contested states make up an occasionally uneven portrait of an economic recovery.


“People will pay attention to their circumstances, and abstract gains are not good enough to outweigh their struggles,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a veteran Republican economic adviser.

Brian Snyder / REUTERS

Mitt Romney waves with his wife Ann after his speech at a primary night rally in Manchester, N.H., on April 24, 2012. "It's still about the economy, and we're not stupid," he told the crowd.

He pointed toward states in the industrial Midwest, where manufacturing growth has been generally slow (though showed signs of improvement this week), and the “sandy states,” such as Nevada and Arizona, where the real estate market is still a long way from recovery.

Many of those states compose the list of the most competitive contests in the NBC News battleground map. That list, which was most recently updated last week, includes Colorado, Florida, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia as pure toss-up states.

But compare the performance of a state like Ohio, where the unemployment rate stands at 7.5 percent (attributable to a number of workers leaving the labor force while employment has held steady), to a state like Virginia.

In Virginia, the labor force has continued to grow along with employment, contributing to a decline in the unemployment rate to 5.6 percent -- the ninth-best rate in the country. 

“Just from an incumbent’s perspective, anywhere where you have a high unemployment rate, from a political view, that’s a dangerous thing,” said Jennifer Granholm, the former Democratic governor of Michigan, who now hosts “The War Room” on Current TV.

Genevieve Cook, a former girlfriend of President Obama, tells of her college relationship with him and describes his “sexual warmth.”

Granholm’s home state of Michigan, a Democratic-leaning state in the battleground, ranks 36th in unemployment. Nevada has the worst unemployment rate in the country, North Carolina checks in at 47th and Florida ranks 43rd, according to preliminary data through March on record with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 

Both Republicans and Democrats acknowledge that voters’ opinions of the economy tend to cement several months before the election, not on Election Day. That raises the stakes for the next few months’ worth of reports on economic indicators, which might shape impressions of the economy on a state and national level. 

A new swing state poll shows President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney neck-and-neck, noting the economy is "what's keeping Romney in the ballgame." Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Real Clear Politics Reporter Erin McPike and the Washington Post's E.J. Dionne discuss.

One big report comes Friday, when the government releases data on job creation for April. One private firm’s estimates, ADP’s, projected that job creation slowed to its worst pace in seven months. 

Still, Democrats argue, the more important factor at work in the states is whether voters generally believe the economy is improving or declining. 

New polling data released Thursday also suggested a gap in swing-state voters’ perceptions of the economy. Seventy percent of Florida voters and 67 percent of Ohio voters said they think the U.S. is in a recession right now, according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

“I think what really matters to people is less the numbers and a government statistic release than the extent to which they feel a sense of improvement in their lives,” said Jared Bernstein, the former top economic adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, who maintains close ties to the Obama administration. 

And that could be the silver lining for Obama. In the same Quinnipiac poll, 51 percent of Florida voters said they think the economy is beginning to recover, and 55 percent of Ohio voters said the same.

First Thoughts: Obama unchallenged on Hispanic media

The NBC battleground map puts 231 electoral votes -- of the 270 needed for election -- in Obama’s column as a baseline, varying his pathways to victory. It may end up being the case that voters in just enough states feel things are improving -- even if the recovery lags elsewhere -- that the president is able to win a second term. 

But the economy isn’t out of the woods yet, and hurdles to recovery remain.

Roll Call's David Hawkings, Center for American Progress' Neera Tanden and National Journal's Ron Fournier discuss the Obama Campaign's web slide show titled "The Life of Julia."

“Things always happen. One of the problems is that if you’re growing slowly, something might come along, like a natural disaster, and slow you down,” said Holtz-Eakin.

Granholm said she worried about the impact of higher gas prices or a slide in European economies having an especially pronounced effect on a state like Michigan, which has already weathered a tough, extended downturn. 

“Michigan could not stand another kick in the gut after the decade we’ve been through,” she said. 

But for all of Romney’s efforts to cast himself as the more qualified candidate to engineer a national turnaround, his fight against Obama in each state will more likely hinge on a complex matrix of voter opinions than a simple glance at the economy. 

Consider states across the Midwest, where growth has been somewhat slow but Democrats have been eager to highlight Romney’s role in opposing the bailouts that contributed to the partial recovery of the auto industry.

“There’s no question that the president will be touting the benefits of the auto rescue,” said Bernstein. “Speaking as a former member of the autos task force, I think that's fair, because the political winds were very much blowing in the other direction. He took a pretty bold step there. “

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Obama's own words and actions are his own worst enemy.

His only plan of attack on the economy: Spend lots of money, and when that failed he spends more. One bullet he keeps shooting over and over hoping it hits something.

Clueless about the economy and clueless on the law.

    Reply#436 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:02 AM EDT

    little joe.. You fully realize that presidents don't technically, "spend" any money,.. right??

    That's congress...

    You probably just got confused... Happens to teapublicans ALL the time..

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    #436.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

    Joe Shmuck. And lyin Willardo's answer would be Duh. Waddid yah say. Oh yeh. I can fix it. Let's bankrupt it and send the jobs overseas. My criminal corporate bosses need more money. He is a mindless tax evading, bankrupting, Etch A Sketch thief.

    Lyin Willardo's own party members are his worst enemy. They tell the truth about him.

    Both The Pope's boy Rick the Dick Sanitarium and Nut Gingerhead, the criminal lobbyist both agreed that Lyin Willardo is the worst person to ever run for the presidency, can not be trusted and will destroy our country.

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    #436.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:12 AM EDT

    These posts are truly entertaining. I'm amazed that democrats are so prone to name calling. Is that the mentality of an obama supporter? They are like little kids. It would be nice to have an intelligent discussion without all of the childish name calling. Before I get called some clever little political name that you have for a Republican supporter, let me clafify, I do not vote for a party, I vote for the person.

      #436.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:42 AM EDT

      Obama MORE TAXES, MORE SPENDING, MORE DEBT. Romney 2012

        #436.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:05 AM EDT
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        I must apologize to everyone. The Obama never ending, ever growing debt crises didn't and I will repeat didn't push the debt ceiling to $15.7 trillion for this year.

        In doing some research on debt ceilings, I discovered that it pushed the debt ceiling to $16.7 trillion.

        So not to let this research go to waste, I think you might find this interesting.

        At the end of 2005 the debt ceiling was $7.78 trillion. Bush was able to get it pushed to the $9 trillion in March 2006 even though Obama opposed it and gave that impassioned speech as a Senator.

        Obama becomes President in 2008

        July 2008 it was raised to $10.62 trillion.

        October 2008 it was pushed up to $11.32 trillion

        February 2009 pushed up to $12.1 trillion

        December 2009 pushed up to 12.4 trillion

        February 2010 pushed up to 14.3 trillion.

        The debt ceiling was raised after August 1, 2011 but I don't know what it was. It's probably is the $15.7 trillion I've been using. Not sure.

        And we know that the last push to raise the debt limit/ceiling pushed it up to $16.7 trillion.

        My source was the National Journal that listed its date source as the Congressional Research Service and News Reports.

        I will be double checking my data just in case.

          Reply#437 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:17 AM EDT

          For those of you who haven't read Obama's impassioned speech on the dangers of rasing the debt limit/ceiling, here it is.

          The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

          At the time, Senator Obama was urging Congress not to tolerate an increase that would bring the debt ceiling to $9 trillion.

          From Sen. Obama's floor speech, March 20, 2006

            #437.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:22 AM EDT

            what happened, the Great Recession changed the budget deficit management a little. Guess Obama could have kept the ceiling down and put us all in food lines.

              #437.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:31 AM EDT

              Junior posts the same post 5 times a day,... every day...

              I'm suggesting a hobby...

                #437.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:34 AM EDT

                tone

                as of today, 46% of American are living in or at the edge of poverty. An even greater number are on some form of Government Assistance.

                Between 1 & 6 Americans have hunger issues. Between 1 & 4 kids go to school hungry.

                All that debt Obama has amassed has over half of our population on the 21st century versions of a bead line.

                The Obama speech condemns the raising the debt limit/ceiling as a failure of leadership and warns of the danger to our economy and nation. What don't you understand about it.

                How many jobs has it created? For the first three years the Obama economic policies produced 0 private sector growth. The Obama campaign is so desperate that its been including summer hiring and Christmas seasonal hiring in his campaign ads a proof his policies are creating job.

                Tone, you are just proof that Obama supporters excel at being uninformed.

                Obama has put us in a never ending, ever growing debt crises with no way of getting out of it.

                There is no recovery and no job growth you moron.

                  #437.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:49 AM EDT

                  K1200RS

                  And I'm going to be posting it more and more. Find a candidate who will reverse Obama's dangerous policies.

                  Either that or have Obama plant a money tree in his wifes garden at the White House.

                  China's going to grow tired of being Obama's sugar daddy one day when they reailze they are going to lose money on their loans..

                    #437.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:56 AM EDT

                    K1200RS

                    I have a hobby. I've written a 21st century fairytale.

                    My test readers tell me its a literary novel that knocks your socks off and takes your emotions on a roller coaster ride. About 600 pages so far. Couple more years and it should be ready for publication.

                      #437.6 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:05 AM EDT

                      What will the debt ceiling and deficit hawk ideas do to feed the hungry especially the 1 in 4 children that go to school hungry? Cut the school lunch program. Cut food stamps? Cut welfare programs? That is not America.

                      The politicians use the deficit like a hypnotist uses a watch. Look at this don't look at that. The next thing many fools know they are for the Ryan budget or want to give the rich another tax cut and more children are hungry. Those children are their neighbors and maybe their relatives. Good people gone bad fooled by the Conservative hypnotist.

                        #437.7 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

                        What Happened: Obama made that speech in 2005 and look what happened " What Happened; In 2008 the economy crashed maybe they should have listened to Obama when he made that speech! at the time the Re Pubs had total control of all three houses! there is no question about under whose watch this perfect economic storm Happened under What happened it was the Republican watch!

                          #437.8 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

                          Dale

                          Our economy is still tanked. Its being propped up artificially with a never ending, ever growing debt crises Obama created in August, 2011.

                          I'm sorry that you Obama supporters don't understand the point of Obama's speech in 2006. It was a well written impassioned speech that clearly points out the dangers of raising the debt ceiling. It's short and moves the reader to his position that raising the debt ceiling is a threat to our economy and nation.

                          It doesn't carry a disclaimer that says its okay to raise the debt ceiling because I'm one requesting the raise.

                          It doesn't ask the Senate to approve the raise to the debt ceiling so Bush can use it to build a stronger economy, does it.

                          What does that tell you, that Obama rejected the debt ceiling raise so the Economy would tank and give him a better change to win the White House.

                            #437.9 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

                            realist pondering

                            Obama never proposed his tax reform to his democraticly congress when he could of got it passed as easily as Obamacare.

                            Obama didn't have his democraticly controled congress repeal the Bush tax cuts to the rich.

                            These aren't the actions of a leader who claims he's trying to prevent a debt crises.

                              #437.10 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
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                              And dunce. Just what do you think that the clueless lying criminal Willardo, The Mexican Mormon Moron tax evader, bankruter and Etch A Sketch champion is going to do about it?

                              Any senior on medicare that votes for these corporate backed theives will have their medicare privatized, costing them about $6,000 a more in costs once the Ryan voucher plan is enacted. This is according to the CBO.

                              Once the repukes corporate masters get their hands into the pot of medicare money, they will rob and steal from it and people will get much less coverage as these corporate theives fatten their wallets.

                              Even the National Council of Churches who back the lying repukes say that the Ryan Plan is cruel and can't support it.

                                Reply#438 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:26 AM EDT

                                All I can say to you democrats is this. You still have time to get another candidate. Obama is bankrupting this country and soon everyone is going to know that he is the rear end of you logo.

                                I'm going to be posting this for the next 5.75 months and others will pick up on it and spread the word.

                                  Reply#439 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:31 AM EDT

                                  This country went bankrupt in 2007.

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                                  #439.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:33 AM EDT

                                  Junior,.. ask mommy for something constructive to do...

                                  You're simply making a fool out of yourself here.. And.... amusingly so !!

                                  Keep up the good work !!! LOL!!!

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                                  #439.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 2:36 AM EDT

                                  Tone

                                  IN 2007 I don't remember reading about a debt crises or that our Government was going to shut down.

                                  Are you just uninformed or do you conveniently forget that on August 1, 2011 the Obama government was going to run out of money and shut down. Obama only created a debt crises at that time.

                                  And I suppose you don't remember China publicly scolding Obama like a child about his economic policies and threatening to sell off the Obama debt it was holding at a loss and stop lend him any money.

                                  But here's one you should remember as it only happened a few weeks ago. The Leaders who attended the summit in Colombia publicly blamed Obama and his economic policies as the cause of their financial problems in their Countries. That why nothing he wanted to accomplish got done. They were hositle to his ideas because he's a failure.

                                  There's so much of this crap, how do you and so many of you other Obama supporters manage to stay so uninformed.

                                    #439.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:13 AM EDT

                                    K1200RS

                                    Better I make a fool out of myself, than have Obama make a fool out of you and the rest of this country.

                                      #439.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:43 AM EDT

                                      what-keep posting it. The only people who will "pick up on it" are one trick zombies like you. You are like an amoeba-you are a single issue idiot. The Koch Brothers and Dick Armory took a few million dollars and created the Tea Party and used either Obamacare of the deficit to delude people who were angry, confused and not politically saavy. These people attack the deficit with no real idea what it is or how you reduce it. The only way you really reduce the deficit is with growth. Cutting everything and laying off government workers and teachers only makes it worse. The only thing big enough to seriously impact the deficit would be to make a large cut to the defense budget. It is filled with pork and bad programs-especially contractors like the former Blackwater. What do the republicans say about the program that when cut will actually impact the deficit? Increase it!!! More hungry children-their fault. Don't touch my military pork-that would be un American. Hungry children???

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                                      #439.5 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

                                      What Happened. That is what I trying to figure out. What Happened to your brain. You got the wrong guy dunce. If lyin Willardo was in charge, half of the large cap companies would be bankrupt, his corporate masters would much richer and the jobs would be sent overseas. It would be back to Bush Bin Lyin's idiotic trickle down politics.

                                      You ignorant right wing nuts never learn.

                                        #439.6 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:25 AM EDT
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                                        The economy and unemployment will have an impact in voter's decisions. Charm, charisma and poppycock with failed promises and policies for the past 3 years won't cut it.

                                        It is time for change as the current POTUS will be a one termer retiring and enjoying golfing at Martha's Vineyard with other eiltes like Buffett, Soros and execs from Goldman Sucks.

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                                        Reply#440 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:11 AM EDT

                                        other eiltes like Buffett, Soros and execs from Goldman Sucks. These TWO Democrats we given over 160 BILLION in TARP RECOVERY MONEY FROM OBAMA. For a very small BRIBE of one million. Not bad, At least the Economy is working for these two very well.

                                          #440.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:03 AM EDT

                                          Tad-cut the military budget if you are serious about the deficit. You would obviously be against charm and charisma with Mitt as your candidate. He has either no personality or just an arrogant entitled sneering one. Depends on his mood.

                                          Mitt Romney is your candidate-that's not our fault.

                                            #440.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

                                            Greg Berry-you conveniently fail to identify Sec. Paulson from the Bush administration who began all this bailout stuff. He demanded no transparency and no details where trillions of dollars went to the banks and AIG. He was the former CEO of Goldman Sachs and a Republican in the Bush Administration.

                                            That is a different kind of hedge fund-Goldman Sachs buys politicians on both sides and gambles on their own manipulation of a country.

                                              #440.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:53 AM EDT
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                                              Well, someone FINALLY admitted it:

                                              "Winning the presidency isn’t decided by national data; it’s decided in the Electoral College"...

                                              Guess that affirms our votes don't count for @!$%# as we've always suspected.

                                                Reply#441 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:22 AM EDT

                                                The Electorial college should be REVISED, ONE STATE ONE VOTE, then all (58) States are equal. Presently it only takes 18 of the actual 50 States to win the WH. If they are the LEFT LEANING DEAD BEAT STATES. Obama won with 19 States last time around, This time I predict him getting 17 States. One SHORT THANK GOD

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                                                #441.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:00 AM EDT

                                                Greg-you're wrong so often that correcting you or instructing you would just take too long and probably not be possible. Left leaning/deadbeat? The majority of this country.

                                                I'm sure you want to be in the Tea Party-you're just not up to their standards.

                                                Try the LaRouche party-thats the very crazy party. I think you will fit in.

                                                  #441.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:57 AM EDT
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                                                  Get ready American’s

                                                  If you can UN-embed yourself from your ostrich syndrome long enough to position yourselves for the coming inevitable economic boom. Be it more specific interrelated education & or skill-set training relating to the domestic energy industry jobs that Will be available. Specifically Oil & natural gas production, transportation, distribution. Secondly electric energy i.e. wind, hydroelectric, nuclear & coal. This is the will of many millions of Americans and it Will Come to fruition. Christmas time 2012 will be good, 2013 will be excellent ! Resistance is Futile,----> 4ward

                                                  Thirty million directly related &100 million indirect support jobs over the next 10 to 15 years in this country alone. This being a conservative estimate...

                                                  YEA! WE CAN ALL GO TO WORK TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY.

                                                  If You are Happy or not, I'm with Happy!

                                                  vote nov

                                                    Reply#442 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:30 AM EDT
                                                    Rob1234567Deleted
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                                                    I told you people 3 years ago to dump Obama and get a real candidate who could win, but noooooooooooo you called me names.

                                                    Well your not going to get the Republicans who where tired of republicans party nonsense and voted for Obama this time. You're not going to get the independent vote like you did. And your going to lose democratic voters like crazy.

                                                    You want to know why? The average American fears that Obama is going to bankrupt this country. And you want to know why. Obama keeps telling them it going to take 10 to 15 years before his economic policies will bring the job market back to normal.

                                                    They see his debt crises and know with the amount of debt he is amassing this country won't be a country in ten to fifteen years.

                                                    His Obamacare, what a joke. You start paying for it in 2014 to protect the insurance companies profits, but you don't get the full range of benefits until 2024. Wow what do you know that's about the same time his economic recovery and employment growth will get back to normal.

                                                    Contrary to you and Obama beliefs, the American people aren't stupid. That's why Obama will lose. He thinks the American citizen as stupid.

                                                    Why do you think he's encouraging the young adults to go deep into debt with student loans. There aren't any jobs for them. He knows this, they know this how come you Obama supporters don't know this?

                                                    Stupid is as stupid does.

                                                      Reply#443 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:34 AM EDT

                                                      What-try the LaRouchees-they are dense enough to buy what you're selling. I think you could be a leader there. Not top tier but definitely non-com.

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                                                      #443.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                                      What Happened. Probably you are the dumbest of the dumb repuke dunces posting on this board. So far, has how the growing debt crisis affected anyone. It is only repuke talking points. Lyin Willardo, the tax evading Mexican Mormon Moron criminal can only criticize Obama. He has no clue on how to fix anything. Instead of praising job gains each month, which they criticize as being terrible, they will go the other way with them and start losing jobs each month. Their trickle down economics only causes money to trickle down into their corporate masters pockets, creating no jobs, only losing them.

                                                      You are still too stupid to realize that Bush Bin Lyin and his mcriminal gang's policies nearly bankrupted our country. I am surprised a right wing dunce like you even, would want go back to the repuke criminal's policies.

                                                        #443.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:48 PM EDT
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                                                        If you want four more years like the last three, - vote Obama.

                                                        If you think Romney can do any better, - vote Romney.

                                                        It's that simple.

                                                        I'd rather like to forget the last three years if you don't mind.

                                                          Reply#444 - Fri May 4, 2012 3:40 AM EDT

                                                          Your analysis will be shared by many this fall. Should spell doom for Obama's reign of terror in DC.

                                                            #444.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:01 AM EDT

                                                            OK

                                                              #444.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:09 AM EDT

                                                              Wullf-correct analysis. Obama will be re-elected. A good Republican candidate might have carried the day. Hard to sell no personality.

                                                                #444.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

                                                                Willard is the better liar I agree. Once this criminal gets into the White House he will have no clue on what to do and the economy quickly goes into a depression. He has no clue on how to create jobs. He bankrupts companies, losing jobs. How is lyin Willard going to spin the large drop in oil prices, back under $100 a barrel.

                                                                Obama was right, regulate the repuke thieves who speculate on prices and cause the oil market to rise. By controlling these repuke thieves and their electonic trading, works to drop prices. As Obama said, there is plenty of oil around.

                                                                  #444.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 12:55 PM EDT
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                                                                  You want to know why Obama is going to lose. No one trusts him. His speech from March 2006 is an example that he lack the integrity to be trusted. People just don't trust a person who say one thing, but does another. That why I keep posting it. It proves he has no integrity and can't be trusted.

                                                                    Reply#445 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:18 AM EDT

                                                                    I have to say, what happened, you do an admirable job of defending your position without sinking to the level of name calling that others on this site seem to. Keep it up. I have to agree with you, I do not trust obama, and based on the last three years, fear if he gets elected again.

                                                                      #445.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:59 AM EDT

                                                                      what-seriously? With that criteria how do defend Mitt and the primary speeches that he is reversing nearly every day? Etch a sketch is not a Democrat invention-it came from his own top advisor. Hard to ignore that unless you are voting against Obama not for Mitt.

                                                                      I'm sorry Mitt is your candidate.

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                                                                      #445.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                                                                      I trust him, but I certainly don't trust lyin Willardo, the Mexican Mormon Moron tax evader, bankrupter and Etch A Sketch Champion. What don't you repuke dunces understand about lyin Willardo. It is written on his face. I bank in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland to hide my income and avoid paying taxes. I am your typical right wing thief.

                                                                      How come you ignorant dunces don't listen to the leaders of your party, Rick The Dick Sanitarium and the criminal lobbyist Nut Gingerhead. They both have said many times, that lyin Willardo "is the worst person to ever run for the presidency, can't be trusted and will destroy our country".

                                                                        #445.3 - Fri May 4, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

                                                                        realist ponderiing

                                                                        I don't defend Mitt. The only thing Mitt has going for him is that he is not Obama.

                                                                        But and its a big but, there is at least one other, Gary Johnson, who is in the race and also holds that distinction.

                                                                        There are 5.5 months to see what he stands for and then decide.

                                                                        The one thing that is a sure thing, the Obama never ending, ever growing debt crises has to be stopped. As Obama has pointed out, its failed leadership and weakens this country.

                                                                          #445.4 - Fri May 4, 2012 1:58 PM EDT
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                                                                          You should know that Crafty men condemn studies; simple men admire them and wise men use them. Be a wise man and use the education to get a job, search online for High Speed Universities you will be surprised to learn how fast it is to get degree and pump up your resume

                                                                            Reply#446 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:22 AM EDT

                                                                            Obama's doing his best to ruin the USA

                                                                              Reply#447 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:34 AM EDT

                                                                              Obama is rarely in the USA, Most traveled, vacationing President this nation has ever had. In between show boating flights to other nations and Campaign Fund raisers, (Obama has had more Fund rasiers then every president since NIXON, COMBINED. Its no wonder we are moving BACKWARDS

                                                                                #447.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:52 AM EDT

                                                                                What-vacation champion was W. He should have taken more.

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                                                                                #447.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:08 AM EDT
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                                                                                What has he done to get peole back to work besides the money he's throwing at IRS?

                                                                                  Reply#448 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:36 AM EDT

                                                                                  Hope and change my azz

                                                                                    Reply#449 - Fri May 4, 2012 4:38 AM EDT

                                                                                    Hope and Pray for Administration CHANGE, in November.

                                                                                      #449.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:53 AM EDT
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                                                                                      It is the ECONOMY STUPID, and ours suck. We need a Leader that actually STAYS IN DC and works on THIS nations problems ONLY

                                                                                        Reply#450 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:43 AM EDT

                                                                                        HOPE is now NOPE!

                                                                                          Reply#451 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:54 AM EDT

                                                                                          This Nation cannot afford even ONE MORE YEAR of Obama and his LEFT WING CORRUPTION MACHINE.

                                                                                            Reply#452 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:55 AM EDT

                                                                                            Greg-wake up-Mitt is your candidate. The corporate raider who destroyed American Companies-destroyed American Workers-Destroyed American families and Destroyed American communities. Watch kingof bain.com. See how you like mitt then-you will really be ticked they pushed Mitt down your throat as your candidate. He is unelectable. A good candidate could have won. What do you think is going on?

                                                                                              #452.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                                                                                              BlowBerry: Why do you think Willard's father named him after the big rat Willard from the movie. Then he gave him a second name after a ripped baseball glove that was being thrown out. When lyin Willardo was smuggled over here from his birthplace in Tijuana, his father changed the family name from Romero to Romney. So you see, by looking at lyin Willard's first two names, his father implied to throw out Willardo, the big lying rat.

                                                                                                #452.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
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                                                                                                Nov. can't come quick enough

                                                                                                  Reply#453 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:55 AM EDT

                                                                                                  November will allow Mitt to go back and make more $$$$$$$$$$$$(speech) and dodge more taxes with off shore tax shelters.

                                                                                                  I doubt if he will be the next spokesperson for Viagra-but he will be available.

                                                                                                    #453.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

                                                                                                    You are right defender. I am tired of listening to the Etch A Sketch Champion's lies. Willard has no clue on how to fix anything. He only knows how to bankrupt and destroy.

                                                                                                      #453.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 1:11 PM EDT
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                                                                                                      You can take a Democrat out of CHICAGO, But its impossible to take CHICAGO out of a Democrat. Obama is by FAR the most CORRUPT Presdent we have every had.

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                                                                                                      Reply#454 - Fri May 4, 2012 5:57 AM EDT

                                                                                                      More TAXES, more SPENDING, more DEBT - Obama 2012

                                                                                                        Reply#455 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:07 AM EDT

                                                                                                        An academic hack with no record of real achievement verses an very successful business leader who understands and believes in the free market system, this will not be a difficult decision for people who still believe in what this country has based it's success on. Four years and five trillion dollars later and Obama doesn't have much to show.

                                                                                                        Obama's snake oil circus is coming to a close, torn tickets stubs are being walked into the mud as the crowd walks away realizing they have been scammed. Another Royal Nunsuch.

                                                                                                          Reply#456 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:09 AM EDT

                                                                                                          A Harvard Law School graduate vs. a corporate raider who destroyed American workers and their families in the name of $$$$$$$$(speech).

                                                                                                          Neil-easy decision. Watch kingofbain.com. Mitt made $100,000,000 while American families lost everything.

                                                                                                            #456.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:20 AM EDT
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                                                                                                            Can't anyone say anything good about Obama? Then from the back of the room, "Carter was better"!

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                                                                                                            Reply#457 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:10 AM EDT

                                                                                                            Greg-that is a new Mitt talking point. Your post makes no sense-you just threw Carter in out of left field-just like Mitt.

                                                                                                            I'll see you Carter and raise you with millions of references to George W. Bush-at least the majority of people know who that is.

                                                                                                            Retro negative poilitics-a new style. Everything back, back, back-Romney in '68.

                                                                                                              #457.1 - Fri May 4, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                                                                                                              BlowBerry: I will write the most positive things I can about lyin Willardo.

                                                                                                              Lyin Willardo may be the worst one of all. This guy has yet to provide his tax returns for the last 5 years. It should show how much he has evaded in taxes and how much unreported income he has stashed away in Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts. He is your typical right wing thief.

                                                                                                              There have been many rumors going around that little lyin Willardo was seen in a baby carriage in Tijuana. with a bottle of Corona Light in one hand and an Etch A Sketch in the other. The side of his carriage had the name "Little Lyin Willardo" on it. So when we see the long form of his birth certificate and it says Willardo on it and not Willard, we will know something is wrong.

                                                                                                              Isn't it funny, that his new buddy Fox Top Trump never asked lyin Willardo for a copy of it?

                                                                                                              What a joke. Less and less of the stupid right wing nuts come out to back lyin Willardo, the Mexican Mormon Moron tax evader and bankrupter and they rave about it. As most people know, the evangelicals consider the mormons an evil anti-christ cult. The mormons have been converting dead jewish people, without their knowledge to become mormons to enhance their religion. They baptise them when they are dead. These sick aholes were caught when they tried to convert Anne Frank to be a mormon. The Church of the Latter Day Saints has now ordered these mormon priests to cease this immediately.

                                                                                                              These repuke dunces best bet is to bring back Herman (9Kampf) Cain, the dress slitherer. He can draft Jerry Sandusky for V.P. Who cares what they have done in the past, they are against abortion, that is all that counts.

                                                                                                              CAIN/SANDUSKY 2012. The true repuke family values candidates.

                                                                                                                #457.2 - Fri May 4, 2012 1:14 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                When you begin to realize that the WH is altra corrupt, and then you understand that the DOJ is blocking all investigations into the WH Corruption Spree, Who do we the people go to , who can we call on to investigate the DOJ???? This nation has LOST its morals, This Govt has LOST is honor.

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                                                                                                                Reply#458 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:16 AM EDT

                                                                                                                Granholm is probably not a good spokes person for Michigan. I left that state 19 years ago. Could see the written word of DOOM way back then. They had the eggs all in one basket. No one was willing to hire a "LEGAL COLLEGE educated person of my type" back then up there. So I moved "down South" to build a LIFE. I own a HOME, SUV, go to a UNION Rail Road job, and PAY TAXES. Go figure the MASS Exodus from the former car capital of the world would lead to the place every one ran from fifty years before?

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                                                                                                                Reply#459 - Fri May 4, 2012 6:32 AM EDT

                                                                                                                You think the economy might have something to do with the next election. Really!!!

                                                                                                                  Reply#460 - Fri May 4, 2012 7:26 AM EDT
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