Now your stuck with a poor candidate. His overall record is going to sink him in November.

King Obama's reign is coming to an end.

Heck, surprises me that the Democrats didn't submit Barney Frank as a contender....he could probably do a better job at screwing up America.

Where are the Democrat's spokes people (Hilary Rosen, Ed Shultz, Bill Mahers) on the issue of a contender ?

The AP has been slanted rightwards for some time now. Their latest snide headline is nothing unexpected.

Speaking of Fox News. Did any of you liberals hear about this on CNN or ABC? It is all true but your media outlets will never let you hear of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7SGWH3kirzg&vq=medium

Watermoon

President Obama signs the law that will restrict Americans free speech last week and today he is going to scold foreign leaders from restricting their people's access to the internet. King Obama needs to go home to Chicago.

I'll play along. I'd just assume have the national media be non-partisan and report the facts of what's going on. Both parties are gleefully selling our republic into oblivion and all we get on the news is our "representatives" blaming each other in their latest vote pandering program. Great job, thanks.

JH, It would have been nice if you had cited the actual name of the law President Obama signed. I imagine the name was missing since a simple fact finding search would prove your claim a "pants on fire" lie.

H.R. 347: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr347/text

Yep, Mr. Obama's pants are gonna be on fire AGAIN when this is elevated to the SCOTUS which is going to require more DOJ lawyers to defend the dad gum thing.

Welcome to a 3rd World country, brought to you by Mr. Obama.

Seems when Bush was in office protesters were kept out of ear shot and in some cases out of sight. I'm not in favor of the law but wonder why conservative opposition finds it objectionable now that a Democrat is in office instead of a Republican. I recall when those standing mute but wearing an anti-Bush tee shirt were rounded by by security and hauled off.

Did you actually read the law or just hear about it from Limbaugh? I didn't know that trespassing, disorderly conduct and physical violence/vandalism were free speech issues now. All are pretty universally considered inappropriate under the law and societal norms.

As noted by Jim, at least this law still allows for orderly protests, unlike President Bush's informal policy about protesters or as he preferred to call them non-patriots.

I second the Ho Hum.

...and he's still incapable of listening to anyone; well, anyone who isn't kneeling to him or spewing new ideas to bankrupt America.

Auditors call for end to Medicare Advantage experiment

"The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office urged the Obama administration
on Monday to end a new $8 billion experiment aimed at improving a key Medicare
program....the GAO concluded that the program was badly designed and unlikely to provide "meaningful results. Consequently, GAO said the project should be terminated..."

"The health department disagreed with the criticism and said the agency has no
plans to end the program. The Obama administration points out that before the new health care reforms were passed, Medicare overpaid private insurers and lacked any power to assure
the care was high quality."

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/23/news/economy/Medicare_advantage/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3

Wait a minute....Mr. Obama, his Czars, his Liberal Cabinet members, and Liberal members of Congress were all for the OWC movement, and now he has signed legislation to squelch protests ?

Oh, that's right....the Class Warfare thingy might have run it's course and the OWC protesters are home alone, so it is off to bigger and better things.

I wonder what Mr. Obama has next on his plate for the election.....maybe.....an Executive Order for the curtailment of voting ?

It's odd that posters here are making H.R. 347: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011 a partisan issue. It seems as though die-hard liberals and teapartiers both like the law since it passed the House by a vote of 399-3.

Question: What do you call a leader that ...

1. Doesn't believe in the Constitution (It's just a piece of paper, right?)

2. Doesn't believe in the powers of congress (Executive orders, anyone?)

3. Doesn't believe in the powers of the courts (A bunch of non-elected officials)

Answer: A dictator.

You liberals need to be very, very careful. You may get what you ask for.

G*D willing, it will be the end of Obama, before its the end of Americans as we know it. G*D Bless America and even the ignorant Liberals!

hey memphian:

1) President Obama is a Constitutional Scholar, he is a professor of Constitutional Law, he is a graduate of Harvard, he was the first African American President of Harvard Law Review. Hmm, this would prove that President Obama knows more about the Constitution than you do. He has studied it, researched it, lived by it. While you and the repubs are willing to change it at will to suit your own needs. Poor repubs, but then again, only you think that hate and lies are bliss.

2) Republicans filibusters in Congress has blocked legislating in this country; and even the country has to keep going even though Republicans refuse to govern. Gee, President Obama continues to pay the bills, keep the country running, while Republicans block and filibuster. Only repubs think we should go belly up and sell out to the highest bidder.

3) The Supreme Court is not an elected body, they are appointed. Do you believe that the Supreme Court should be telling you how to obey the law, or even what the law should be? really? That would make them dictators now wouldn't it.

Funny how your lies and your lack of facts comes around and hits you in the face doesn't it. But then again, the repubs and the right are nothing but idiots and maniacs who haven't a clue. You all just wallow in hate, racism, bias, and live by talking points and not truth or facts. I pity you righties, I really do. Thank God for President Obama and the real thinkers and doers in this country. Left to you righties, well, we already know where ignorance under Bush and Cheney and the republican congress got us, over the cliff, in the toilet, and broke.

Hey fuzzy, so you want to put our country and her treasure and our fates in the hands of corrupt big business as the GOP has told you that is their plan for our country; instead of President Obama's plan to keep our country in the hands of the people. You backwards? You insane? You are really going to vote for turning this country over to the highest bidder and render our voices silent? really? Just so your GOP washington politicians can get their pockets lined even more. You aren't a real American. You are as corrupt and as stupid as the GOP obviously is.

demsrock

President Obama just signed a bill limiting our first admendment rights .Explain to us just how is that for the people? The only one insane here is you. I am a dem too. Take off your blinders.Its not just Obama but the whole congress too. Come on man quit being ignorant and look at what is really going around us.

So Ted, when private businesses don't allow you to protest on their property, or spit at them, or scream at and disrupt their business, you don't consider that limiting your first amendment rights? Really? you have a problem with not allowing disruption of business in a public place, or spitting at or verbally abusing public employees, but those same restrictions private business has is okay? really? I would say that the teabaggers behavior had a detrimental affect on how business is conducted all over this country, and as a result of their violence and spitting and name calling and verbal abuse, restrictions on impeding business is now a problem? Really? You believe people should be abused when carrying out their every day duties or jobs even though others who don't agree should be able to violate their right to work and harass or disabuse others and you call that their first amendment right? So it is okay for protestors to muck everything up, but the other side has no right to make a safe workplace? Really? I'd be blaming the abusers of the first amendment rather than being mad at President Obama for protecting the first amendment from the abusers. I suggest you read the bill very, very carefully. I agree with President Obama and Congress. If you are going to abuse your right, then restrictions to safeguard the right and those who are simply going about their jobs should have that right and the right to be free of harrassment and violence.

Ted, only the "insane" incite violence then scream their rights are being violated. Violence is against the law in this country. Inflicting abuse or bodily harm to anyone you don't agree with is against the law. I applaud my President for protecting my rights. I don't scream that he violates my rights just because I am uninformed or because I don't agree with him. That is what the right and radicals do.

TO: JH-479998 who wrote:

"Now your stuck with a poor candidate. His overall record is going to sink him in November..."

I don't think it's so much "his" record as Republicans' record of not doing their job in hopes that people like you might blame the president for what Republicans DIDN'T do.

Obama / Biden 2012

Demsrock:

1. I know that Obama "knows" the constitution. I said he didn't believe in it. Huge difference. Make no mistake, I believe that Obama is an extremely educated and intelligent individual. It's his beliefs that I have problems with. Alexander the Great, Napolean, Hitler, and Winston Churchill were all extremely brilliant men, but history has judged some of them great, and some of them tyrants.

2. Yes, Congress blocks a lot of what Obama wants to do. That's why we have a congress and not a King. It's called checks and balances. Congress is there to represent the people who put them there. This is a republic, not a democracy. Look up the difference.

3. Judges are appointed for a reason. They aren't perfect, not by a long shot, but they are there to interpret the law and to protect the constitution of the United States. They aren't supposed to be voted in and out, subject to the political whims of whoever is in power at the time. They are appointed based on their understanding of law and the constitution. (Supposed to be, at least)

A President is never supposed to have the power to make sweeping changes to the government, railroading congress and criticizing judges that overturn laws that are unconstitutional. THAT'S NOT HIS JOB!

His job is to lead the country. It's congress's job to make laws, not his!

What you are looking for is a dictator. The nearest one is in Cuba. Move there if you like.

demsrock your private property analogy totally fails.

BIG difference between private land and land owned by We The People.

This is an answer to concerned Memphian - I call it George Bush

Saaaayyyy........

Where is he accepting the nomination again?

Wait, WHAT?

BANK OF AMERICA STADIUM????

Well that can't be right.... can it?

FAKE LIBERALS WAKE UP NOW PLEASE!!!!!!

demsrock You say that the repubs are putting the country in the hands for big business but you and other dems are placing the country in the hands of a socialist dictator in training. He is circumventing the constitution at every opportunity. And he raises he ll if someone opposes him. If he's elected again, I'm pretty sure he'll re-write our constitution so that he gets more then 2 terms and then he's never going away. He's using the template that was used for the rise of nazi germany. Make no mistake, Obama is and will destroy what little is left of free america.

Nuffsnuff - Take your meds and a nap, you'll feel better. The boogie man is just in your head not in reality.

I wish. I'm pretty sure alot of people like you say the same thing right up until they start dragging people out of their beds at night for re-education. But that's ok Amused, If I could stick my head in the sand like you I think I would too.

Nuffsnuff - Stop listening to Glenn Beck and the voices in your head.

Oh amused, now I get it. You actually have nothing to contribute to the conversation so you attempt to take cheap shots. So now do I sink to your level and tell you a petulant little child you are or do I take the high road and agree that even if you can't support you opinion your are still entitled to one and wish you a nice day. Have a nice day. :)

Nuffsnuff - Sorry but its just not possible to have a conversation, at least not a rational one. Your imagination is obviously set on hyper warp. Your irrational diatribes are laughable. Your lack of knowledge concerning the process for changing the Constitution is deplorable. You truly need professional help and I hope you seek it.

Maybe you're right there amused. But I think it's interesting that when I went back and looked at all your recent posts, they were direct attacks on other posters and not at the original article. Sounds to me like I may not be the only one here that needs a little professional help. Maybe addressing the issue presented instead of simply blasting others opinions would be helpful. Try making an original post instead of once again playing the petulent child. But still, I hope you have a nice day.

Like Bachmann or not, I don't think her campaign "completely imploded" as not withdrew due to some scandal or eligibility issue

Mr. Community Organizer imploded when he rammed through Stimulus #1 and the unconstitutional Mandated Universal Health Care legislation.

Mr. Community Organizer imploded when he rammed through Stimulus #1 and the unconstitutional Mandated Universal Health Care legislation.

That's funny I hadn't heard the SCOTUS ruled yet.

Like Bachmann or not, I don't think her campaign "completely imploded" as not withdrew due to some scandal or eligibility issue

It imploded the moment she opened her mouth and showed everyone what a moonbat she is.

"It imploded the moment she opened her mouth and showed everyone what a moonbat she is." Another example of the intolerance of some on the left for anyone who dares to speak outside the narrow scope of Political Correctness. Ruker, newsflash, there are NO bats on the moon, but of course you believe that as that what you were told by those who can not tolerate those outside the narrow scope of Political Correctness.

Another example of the intolerance of some on the left for anyone

Wrong. Try "intolerance from someone in her district that has had to put up with that racist witch for far too long".

That would be an accurate statement.

• That's funny I hadn't heard the SCOTUS ruled yet.

Yep, that is MY TAKE on Mr. Obama's two year campaign to get the UNCONSTITUTIONAL mandated universal health care reform legislation rammed down the American people's throats. And SCOTUS will find this legislation to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL in June.

Blah blah blah Ido. If it does get overturned, good luck to you getting any kind of health insurance because those insurance companies will definitely start throwing people off insurance; seniors, kids, people with high blood pressure, etc. So when your health insurance bills start racking up, well, then you can blame all Republicans and the Supreme Court when insurance companies raise rates 70% and start throwing people off insurance plans. Yeah, there ya go. Then the republicans and lobbyists will have even more lobbyist money to play with. But hey, when all you can do is scream about President Obama fighting for a better health insurance system, and all you haters do is throw around hate and screw everybody else in the bargain, well, you are the perfect little republican soldier now aren't you. You won't have a dime or any insurance, but hey, so long as you haters get to hate, what do you care about kids or seniors. Truly rotters aren't you republicans. You will cut your own heads off to spite your own faces so long as you can spew your vile hatred and disrespect of your President. Because it is very obvious you know absolutely nothing about the health care system, or the health care law. Because if you did know anything, you would know, understand, and accept you can't afford to be without it. But they, don't come crying if the supreme court throws out our rights to have insurance, and to not be screwed by insurance companies.

Poor Ido, clueless Republican. Ido, you have no idea what insurance is do you. We do not have universal health care nationally, nor is the Affordable Care Act a universal health care plan. But hey, you are truly ignorant of the facts and are hardly taken seriously in your hate filled stupidity Ido.

Now Ido, I suggest you speak with your own insurance company and have them explain to you what your insurance means. Then, you can ask them if the SCOTUS overturns our laws what that will mean to your health insurance premiums as to how much more you will be charged; and while you are at it, ask them if it will then be legal to throw you off your plan because you have a preexisting condition. you got kids? They ever have an ear infection? Then ask your insuirance company if the SCOTUS overturns our health care law, can they legally throw your kids off your plan? The answer to all these questions is yes. I suggest you talk to the private insurance companies. They will explain your plan to you, and they will tell you you do not have universal health care, and if SCOTUS overturns your right to health care, well, they will also tell you they can deny you coverage for any reason they want. Go ahead, Ido, start asking really tough questions of your private insurance company. Go ahead, then come back and tell us what they told you. Got the guts to go find out they can screw you if the law is overturned? Go ahead, Ido, go find out. The one protection between you and getting screwed by your insurance company is President Obama and the new law. Bet you don't have the guts to find out that he is on your side you insolent ant.

I agree @demsrock.... Alot of people want to blame Obama for trying to make healthcare affordable. Oh but what have any of you complaining about the affordable healthcare ever attempted to buy healthcare NOT provided by your employer??? Alot of these senior cannot afford anything without healthcare trust me I do some of the billing. A simple surgery can cost thousands of dollars and belive insurance companies would love to deny your claim if they don't have to pay. I think Obama is trying to protect the lower and middle class. Most replublicans want the poor to stay poor and the middle class to be poor.

I have a couple of questions for demsrock and mj, who claim Obama supports the middle class.

1 - do you pay for some or all of your health insurance premiums?

2 - Have your premiums gone up or down since the healthcare law was passed? Be honest.

3 - The healthcare act includes a 40% tax on your healthcare policy. That means if your policy is worth 10k, you owe 4k in taxes on it.

WHO DOES OBAMA THINK IS GOING TO PAY THIS? EMPLOYERS?

4 - If the health insurance industry is hundres of billions a year as an industry, what will be the effect of taking 40% of hundreds of billions of dollars out of the economy? How will this affect our GDP? Our consumer spending?

Face it, The Hammer will fall on The Middle Class. The rich will be able to absorb the costs, the poor won't have to pay the costs.

PS - Anyone else notice that the article glosses over the fact that even running mostly unopposed, Obama still can't carry all 50 states? Lols for days!

In Boston - BOSTON! At the 100 year anniversary celebration for Fenway Park, when they put a pre-recorded message from The President up on the Big screen, two things happened....

NESN cut to a commercial

And the crowd erupted with loud Boos.

It's all on Youtube.

We had that in 2008 too. McCain vs Obama. Ever seen the movie Dumb and Dumber? This 2012 election is simply the sequel with the same, just as incompetent candidates. America's economy will likely collapse in the next 10 years if Obama stays in office. Can't say Romney would do much better even if he reversed everything. Each of us owes $120K+ to our government to pay off our debt. I don't see us paying that off anytime soon. Seal the hatches and doors and buckle up for a bumpy ride.

Given that the economy has been getting better under Obama, I'm gonna have to ask you to cite your source there Professor Truth.

Toasty - My bad..I mis-spoke, I was slightly off due to recent growth of the debt since I last looked. Actually it is $129K per househould...and $49K per person and growing. Any online debt clock with show you.

Source: http://www.usadebtclock.com/

Don't even ask about your obligation for your TOTAL unfunded US liabilities...

Too bad. I would love to have had the opportunity to vote against him in the primary.

You had that opportunity in 2008. Why didn't you act on it? Millions of Republicans voted FOR him in the primary through crossover voting. Its how he won several state primaries over Clinton. Its how he got the nomination. Its how he got elected president. Surely you will remember the Limbaugh-led "Derail the Hillary Express" activity. So in your righteous indignation, take time to thank your fellow conservatives for their success in helping vault Obama to the White House.

No, TH, you misspoke when you made the assertion the economy would collapse. The economy has improved under the president, and that's the subject you clearly wish to avoid addressing.

Exactly right "Toasty"! Too bad Bush blew a surplus. President Clinton, a Democratic President, actually left Bush a surplus and plan to have this country on the road to a 5 trillion dollar surplus, but then there was Bush who now only blew the surplus, but left us with bills that we are now paying. Idiotic isn't how people like "Truth" here thinks just because Bush went away, his bills went with him. Too bad "Truth" can't admit the truth, that President Obama is paying the Bush/Cheney bills, and "Truth" here can't admit just how miserably expensive the Republican party turned out to be. And stupidly, people like "Truth" here somehow believe that the deficit was fun up by President Obama. Clueless, but then again, that certainlly defines the Republican party. They rack up trillions in bills, pay nothing, leave everyone else holding the bag, and then they turn tail and run. Cowards screaming "deficits don't matter". Deficits don't matter is what Cheney and Bush were screaming for the eight years they racked up trillions in debt and deficits. Hey there truth, you finally getting the idea of just how expensive Bush and the Republicans are, or are you still whining and lying about this is the Democrats and President Obama's fault. You and the republicans can't do the math, and can only lie. Weak! Weak! Weak!

Truth is stupid if he thinks the American household OWES 120k/ea because of a government debt.....

Its the governments liability... not citizens.... China is not going to come knocking on your door asking for the governments payment.... and alot of that debt is money it owes its own citizens...
for someone to say that is "your obligation" is spoken by a person that does not understand what debt and deficits mean.... much less the reality of politics...

@Toasty,

Please cite your references as to how the economy has improved. I'm sure the growing number of welfare, unemployed (i.e. underemployed and those who have abandoned the search) and food stamp recipients might vehemently disagree with you.

When Obama took office the Dow was at 6,500, today it is 13,000, an increase of 100%. The month before Obama took office, 700,000 Americans lost their jobs. Since late 2010, there has been a steady monthly increase in the American employed workforce.

Damn, beat me to it.

So Bruce and Toasty, your point is the rich get richer on Wall st under Obama?

Finally we agree on something.

Rev - if your cognizant reasoning is not working then just stay home!

There is ONE candidate for President who isn't lying to your face.

A man who will bring The Troops Home now. Not just talk about it.

A man who will restore Fiscal sanity to DC. Not just talk about it.

A man who will end the Wall St bailouts. Not just talk about it.

A man who will actually repeal the patriot act and the NDAA. Not just talk about it.

That Man is Ron Paul.

MireV03 -

1. If you are calling me stupid, then you are calling President Obama, Abraham Lincoln, and many other American leaders stupid too...read HIS words below.
2. How do you separate the American government from its people? Are you a communist? Without the citizens, there is no government, no debt or country. Look up Democracy again. Once you understand why government debt is a liability on it's citizens...then you will understand your beloved Pres. Obama's explanation of the Government's Debt burden on America's people, aka, YOU.

From Sen. Obama's Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's
debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S.
Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing
financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's
reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically
and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead,
Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children
and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.
Americans deserve better."

At that time each household share of debt burden was was roughly $45K. Yet as President, Obama goes and adds the most debt in American History, doing the exact opposite of what he preached. You sure you want him for President again? His debt is YOUR debt, your child's debt, and generations after you.

Who is stupid now? The truth is never stupid..but it can hurt!

Bruce/Toasty: No doubt Bush's policies and the wars really screwed us up. What do you expect when your only choices for president from 2000-2008 are between Bush v Kerry or Gore. All three were nitwits.

Look, Obama's plans are not long term solutions...The HUGE programs Obama is implementing will kill any gains he has now. Sorry, save your money because the rough times are coming, thanks to the Democrats and Republicans. We need a REAL leader...

The improvement of the economy has not been a big enough bang for the bucks that Obama and his cast of clowns have wasted !

Unemployment numbers are not really improving since people no longer looking for a job and the people whose unemployment has ran out are not included in the equation.

Alan, I fully understand your sympathies. And I greatly fear that voting for Paul - admittedly one of the sharpest knives in the drawer - will put Obama back in the White House.

I WOULD like to see a Paul (either Ron or Rand) as VP with Romney.

All the best,

But that's the thing, Paul ISN'T very bright. He's charismatic, I'll give him that, but he has an understanding of economic and political issues on par with a below-average third grader. THAT is his problem, not the "evil media conspiracy." Ron Paul just isn't very smart, and THAT is the reason he keeps losing. Believe me, I wish it was different, and I'm not trying to be mean to the man, but this is just how it is.

If Paul has a third grader's grasp of economics then so does Obama.

The economy has been getting better under Obama. Sorry kiddo, but Ron Paul just won't cut it when compared to Obama.

The economy has been getting better in a few places. Wisconsin for example is getting better, but not because of Obama, but because of the pro business attitude of a republican governor. Scott Walker. How is Michigan doing? Or California? Both are dying and have multi billion dollar deficits.

What exactly is Obama's economics background? I'm sure he took a couple course in college.

Alan, what is Paul's economics background. He is a doctor, not a economist.

Ron Paul is not an economist and that's a good thing. And Obama's not an economist either. Ron Paul is likely not endorsing any Repbulican canidate for President. Maybe Obama should replace Geithner with Paul as Treasury Secretary.

Kevin, Wisconsin hasn't gotten better if you actually look at the facts. What HAS happened there is the removal of civil rights.

Actually toasty and kevin, wisconsin has net job losses since that idiot governor came in. Also, Wisconsin has lost businesses in the state, not gained them, and walker the governor is a good little republican liar who is the pocket of the Koch brothers. Michigan and California have improved their status under President Obama. But hey, Republicans are so lost in hatred, bias, lies, and racism, they can't see the woods for the trees. At least we are clear now that anything coming out of the mouth of a republican is a lie and a talking point and has no basis in facts. Republicans are living gloriously in their own little talking points bubble, and are swallowing every lie told to them by their party bought and sold by Koch. Ah yes, the repubs are a stinking mess of greed and money with absolutely no substance, no truth, no facts, and no plan. They can screw the country up royally, but they have no plans to fix it, just sell us out to the highest bidder like Koch and Rove and Grover. Clueless and insolence is what republicans are made of. No spine, no backbone, no ideas, just sell us out to the highest bidders.

Ron Paul is smart enough to have graduated from Medical school and passed his liscence exam.

Are you that smart Toasty? I doubt it.

Besides, it's time to admit that Kenyesian economics have failed us. Look where we are!

Ron Paul espouses Austrian economics.

I bet if you would get off Obama's jock long enough to educate yourself, you would espouse Austrian economics too!

Kenyesian Economics have failed. It's time to go back to what worked - Austrian economics.

The third major school of economics is the Kondatrieff school of thought.

If Kondatrieff is right, we're all screwed anyways.

Alil, "Austrian Economics" doesn't actually exist. It's not an actual economic philosophy. It's literally just a sham phrase with no doctrine. Seriously, it's just there to make people sound smart as long as nobody asks them for specifics. And I'm sorry to say, but Ron Paul is clearly stupid enough to have fallen for it, too. Like I said, I respect some of Paul's positions, but on the economy he's dumber than a particularly-gifted house pet.

Toasty says - "Alil, "Austrian Economics" doesn't actually exist. It's not an actual economic philosophy. It's literally just a sham phrase with no doctrine. Seriously, it's just there to make people sound smart as long as nobody asks them for specifics. And I'm sorry to say, but Ron Paul is clearly stupid enough to have fallen for it, too."

See, when you deny even the existence of any other opinion, you become total fail.

Toasty, there are three generally accepted schools of economic thought.

Kenyesian, Austrian, and Kondatrieffian.

All three are real. Ask your Mom. They are nothing like the tooth fairy or Santa.

What we have now is "crony capitalism". This is a system under which those connected to the govt get fabulously wealthy, while everybody else suffers. It is an indirect transfer of wealth fromthe 99% to the 1%, all under the benevolent eye of the Federal Govt.

Say, where is Corzine these days? Jail? No?

For example, under Obama's stimulus, 85% of the money went to his campaign donors.

There is NO way, NO how, NO possible scenario

where the strongest most deserving of loan garauntees

were all Obama supporters.

I'm not talking about the invisible hand here, I'm talking about a light hand.

A heavy hand ruins all economies. This is true historically.

As long as you're asking your Mom about stuff, ask her about Social Security.

Ask her what she thinks about Obama specifically targeting FICA, when he could have cut federal income tax instead. Ask her what she thinks of that.

You FAKE liberals make me sick.

Obama is like Bush on Steroids, but where you (AND I!!!) hated Bush for it....

Well, Obama just gets a pass. Makes me wanna Holler!

End The Wars,

End The Fed,

Bring Our Troops Home,

Before They're Dead.

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

Alil, I didn't ask for bumper sticker slogans. I was hoping you'd try to defend your position like a grown-up, but in hindsight I suppose that was asking too much.

If he get re-elected ...I will be either dead or in Costa Rica this time next year ....lol

No dejes que la puerta se cierra de golpe.

what closet? He's about as "out" as Barney Frank

Oye, Toasty, tienes que hablar en ingles aqui

That's pretty good Toasty ......I'll make sure not to let the door slam behind me as I make my way to paradise....

Poor racist Maya. Do run along dear and cry somewhere else. Insolence, hatred, and racism seems all you are capable of. You are certainly unamerican, unpatriotic, and totally bereft of reality that you represent the republicans well.

Poor Maya, who is Hispanic, and therefore inconveinent to Obama's agenda.

Wait, but I thought liberals wanted to help people!

Oops! I forgot, nothing but FAKE liberals here.

Sorry, don't mean to assume Maya is hispanic. No idea, seriously. She does seem to go against what the mainstream media portrays, doesn't she?

I actually have several LEGAL immigrant friends who feel like if ILLEGALS get amnesty, they got ripped off by like 20K each.

By The U.S. Government.

THEY ARE NOT WRONG OR MAKING IT UP!!!!!!

Restore Sanity to Washington D.C.

Ron Paul 2012

djj

You're right, it is not ho hum. Your progressive/liberal talking points are getting old. This country is being systematically destroyed by your side. We can't continue to to rob from the rich and keep giving to the poor like the progressives would like to do. We will soon run out of rich people. They will leave this country in droves to find a better life, just like our ancestors did. Currently the rich are paying the vast majority of taxes that make this country work. I personally pay plenty right now and don't mind paying my fair share. But if the progressive/liberals keep telling me I'm not doing enough while at the same time keep wasting tax dollars I'll find a way to cut my taxes.

JH you're wrong. The rich have been getting richer over the past decade, so don't give me we will lose our rich people. Rich people know how to manage their money and can handle a return to the tax levels seen under Clinton. The income gaps grows constantly but that wouldn't matter to you as we are losing our rich people.

Also I seriously doubt you will have to pay more. You don't sound anything like a person making 250K or more.

DJJ - Lets look at those rights you say:

taking away rights ie. women's health, equal pay for equal work, voting rights, union rights, etc.

1. Women's health. You mean abortion. Rowe v Wade was not voted on democratically, and therefor is not technically a "right" bestowed by all Americans constitutionally. What happened to the RIGHT to vote on that issue not being given to Americans because it affects MILLIONS of Americans...some of which never got a chance to be born?
2. Equal pay for equal work: You are looking for Utopia. doesn't exist. This is impossible in a free market economy where costs of living, degrees of competence and skills vary from employee to employee. I suggest you move to a communist country that guarantees your pay no matter what.
3. Voting Rights: Republicans are the ones that pushed and opened up rights for blacks to vote...NOT the Democrats as you have been misled to believe. Also, where was the right to vote on Abortion?
4. Union Rights? Unions don't have rights. Unions overwhelmed and killed GM like a leech sucking the life out of them. Now you as a taxpayer are in debt for the rest of your life to pay back the bail out that Obama gave them.

Your arguments are weak and inaccurate, go back and read American History again.

Adam you are so wrong. Rich people are no different then corporations. They have no problem relocating to another country and will if the cost of being an American drastically cuts into their profits.

The corporations left because of an unfriendly govt. They want to stay in business and will do whatever necessary to do so.

I think we should let any corporation that desires to leave ~ ~ go. I also believe that we should bar that corporation from importing any of its products or services to the US once it vacates the place. Two things will happen ~ 1.) without the American marketplace the vast majority of these relocated operations cannot survive, and 2.) the demand for scarce or unavailable products will launch domestic startups to fill the need. Hell, lets help them pack ~ the benefits are obvious and could be immediate.

Corporations leave the US due to lower wages, fewer environmental regulations, and less intrusive government generally - such as workplace safety.

These corporations are not hesitant however to call on the US judicial system to protect their patents, contractual agreements and product dumpling allegations.

In a nutshell, they want the best of all worlds, and are getting it.

Truth Hurts:

Who has the right concerning a woman's reproductive interests? The woman or the government?

Two people doing exactly the same job should be paid at the same rate regardless of the sex of either. To do otherwise is to condone sex discrimination.

Republicans fought the Voting Rights Act of 1964 vehemently , contrary to your totally misguided statement. LBJ signed that bill, by the way.

'Union Rights' has nothing to do with the rights of unions, it has everything to do with the rights of individuals to join together. Republicans don't seem to recognize that it was the unions of the 30's that gave all of us the 40-hour, five day work week and all of the other benefits everyone in America enjoys today whether they belong to a union or not.

Interesting that corporations are constantly fighting to eliminate unions while they and their fellow corporations join together to form oligarchies. Anyone who still thinks we have a competitive market place to allow capitalism to function as it was intended are deluding themselves.

Bruce

Republicans fought the Voting Rights Act of 1964?????

Have you ever heard of Robert KKK Byrd??? How about Al Gore Sr.??? You are terribly uninformed.Yes LBJ signed it, reluctantly, and only because JFK fought for it before his assassination. And JFK would not have anything to do with todays democratic party. He believed in Americans ability to be self sufficient.

John F. Kennedey voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act.

Todays so called "liberals" have lost thier way.

I take Great Joy in tweaking thier nose with the first line in this post.

Bring the troops home, end the wars, question authority.

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

BRUCE - You can at simply wiki the facts and come to your own conclusion that Democrats, not Republicans opposed it the hardest....unless...the truth hurts to much for you to accept it.

The most fervent opposition to the bill came from Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC): "This so-called Civil Rights Proposals, which the President has sent to Capitol Hill for enactment into law, are unconstitutional, unnecessary, unwise and extend beyond the realm of reason. This is the worst civil-rights package ever presented to the Congress and is reminiscent of the Reconstruction proposals and actions of the radical Republican Congress."^[11]

Unions brought about employment regulations when there were none. I supported them then. Today however, we have laws that protect employees and Unions are nothing but leeches...a middleman to your paycheck and benefits.

Women's rights - women themselves made the government own their health rights with Rowe V Wade.

Uh, Kurt? Obama was born in Hawaii, so that makes him a natural born citizen. His mother was an American citizen, so that makes him a natural born citizen.

A black man was elected president in a free and open election. GET OVER IT.

Toasty...you sound like Al Sharpton. Quit the race baiting. Your are correct on one point...he is black, and was voted in mostly because of that fact and he gave good speeches. But black or not, Obama never had and still doesn't have the leadership and experience for running any kind of major organization, much less a country. He is a smart man, sure, but many smart people have no business being President.

Its like saying that if a company like Walmart is in major financial trouble and needs to hire a new CEO to turn it around...you say "lets go hire an activist Harvard lawyer and if he is black, even better, he'll be our first black CEO and we will appear PC." What you really need is a Financial wizard that understands economics and how business works, otherwise the whole company fails. And that is what we have in America today, a Harvard lawyer trying to run a company he knew nothing about.

Toasty, You obviously need to learn the term "Natural Born Citizen" as intended by our Founding Fathers. That might be difficult for you as it would take the time to research 18th century history. In my comments, I made NO indications where Obama was born or not born for it does NOT matter when one or both parents were NOT a US Citizen at the time of birth of Obama (the child). The Founding Fathers used the Term "Natural Born Citizen" from the 1758 "Law of Nations" meaning a child born to TWO (BOTH) parents who are ALREADY citizens at the time of the child's birth. Since the father the Obama claims was NEVER a US Citizen, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. Even Obama was born in the Oval Office of the White House, he STILL could NEVER be a natural born Citizen due to the fact there was one parent NOT a Citizen at the time of his birth NO MATTER WHERE he was born.

Why play the race card on this for Obama is just as white as me (1/2)?

He is a smart man, sure, but many smart people have no business being President.

Yeah ~ we always do better when a dumb-ass like Bush moves into the White House. Look at what he inherited and then its condition when he handed over the keys eight years later. But you've got to admit, Junior was consistent. Every business he ever ran went belly-up. Don't try to count the Texas Ranger Baseball Club as an exception ~ Tom Vandergrif was its business brains and a lot of its bankroll. BTW, Bush had a background in business and a masters degree in business administration and look at how he and his PNAC cronies f**ked everything up before they got out of town.

Kurt, please feel free to cite in the U.S. Legal Code or the U.S. Constitution where your "both parents need to be citizens" definition of natural born citizen is found. Go on. Take your time. What are you afraid of?

A natural born citizen is someone who is born a citizen, not naturalized. That's the whole point of the distinction; born and not naturalized. Thus, Obama is clearly a natural born citizen. Unless you're one of the many Birthers who feel the Fourteenth Amendment should be abolished...

Hey Toasty, look at my comments, I was the one who stated YOU need to do research on 18th Century History. Since you will not do it, I will give you a hint on the Legal reference for Natural Born Citizen origination:

The term natural born citizen was first codified in the legal reference book "Law of Nations" in 1758, of which was used by John Jay who later became the first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. John Jay considered the outstanding legal scholar of his time had the "natural born citizen" clause inserted into the U.S. Constitution via a letter he wrote to George Washington, the leader of the Constitutional Convention.

Since I now given the SOURCE of "Natural Born Citizen" as defined by our Founding Fathers, I am assuming you are not so lazy of doing your own research instead of blindly going with Politically Correct Revionists History as what is a Natural Born Citizen.

Kurt, and others interested in this stupid argument, Article II, SEction Section 1, paragraph 5 reads in salient part:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the United States; . . ." (Capitalization as in the original document).

Two classes are eligible to be President: (a) a person born in the United States, and (b) a person who has gone through a naturalization process prior to 1789, the year the Constitution was adopted by the States. There is no reference in the Constitution or in the Journals tof both parents being citizens, otherwise (b) above would be superfluous.

Everybody clear now?

John McCain was born in Cuba! Should he be a US Senator?

demsrock, actually he was born in Panama where his father, a Navy Admiral was stationed at the time.

The Admiral did not have the baby John McCain, the Admiral's wife did. (Some people here might not fully understand.)

So in other words... "Sorry Toasty, I have no citations in U.S. law to back up my assertion."

Pretty much what I expected. Tell you what, Kurt. Look up United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).

Heh, it also just occurred to me that Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico. By Kurt's definition, Romney is likewise ineligible to run for U.S. President. Once again we see how stupid these Birther arguments are.

Toasty, Does not matter where the parents were born, what matters is their citizenship status at the time of birth.

As for your citation to >>>United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). Here are the facts:U. S. v Wong Kim Ark (1898) , the court thoroughly discussed "natural born citizen," and Justice Gray quoted from Minor v. Happersett
The cases importance is that it is the first case decided by the Supreme Court that attempts to explain the meaning of "natural born citizen" under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution. Natural born citizen is similar to the meaning of what a natural born subject is under Common Law in England and why the framers specifically included a grandfather clause (natural born Citizen OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution) as the founding fathers needed to grandfather clause themselves in, in order to be president because they were British subjects. The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a native born citizen and NOT natural born. If you look at the fact of Wong Kim Ark being born in San Francisco, CA, of foreign (Chinese) parents, therefore was not 'natural born'. Wong Kim Ark parents were NOT US Citizens AT TIME OF his birth, thus he was ruled a NATIVE BORN CITIZEN NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Bruce, I stand corrected. But according the birther's, they don't believe Hawaii is the United States. Hey birthers, by your own definition, John McCain isn't a citizen because he was born on Panamian soil! Your definition makes John McCain a non citizen. You sure, birthers, that you want to stumble down this old path again? Gee, maybe Romney was secretly born in Mexico! Oh no!

Kurt, those are the exact same thing...

People are getting confused between the difference of a citizen and more stringent term "Natural Born Citizen". If the Founding Fathers wanted only a "Citizen" to be VP and President, it would have stated just citizen or even "native born citizen" but instead they wrote in "Natural Born Citizen" taken from the Law of Nations in 1758.

That a person can be a "citizen" under the following circumstances:
1) Person was born of one citizen parent (Obama), or
2) Person was born in the US mainland ("anchor babies"), or
3) Person was naturalized (like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who most know is not eligible for President).

To be a "natural born citizen" the person MUST be born to two US citizen parents. (plural)
Obama is at best a citizen, but NOT a 'natural born citizen' even IF he was born in the State of Hawaii because he had only ONE U.S. citizen parent. (singular)

Funny, some dont know their history regarding the Panama Canal. McCain was born to U.S. citizens who were stationed on a U.S. base in the Canal Zone and therefore on U.S. soil in which WAS a US Territory from 1914 to 1999, therefore eligible to be US President. Whereas Obama born to a father that was NEVER a US Citizen, thus not a Natural Born Citizen. Both of Romney's parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth, thus a Natural Born Citizen. If Rubio becomes the VP nominee, his parents were not YET US Citizens at the time of Rubio's birth, thus Rubio is NOT a Natural Born Citizen

The fact is that your "natural-born citizenship requires both parents to be citizens" claim is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED BY THE FACTS. You just completely pulled it out of your ass. THAT is the issue, Kurt. THAT is the problem with your assertion. THAT is what you just refuse to get. You JUST MADE IT UP.

Uhm, the "Law of Nations" published 1758 is not "just made up" by me. It is the source that our Founding Fathers used for their term "Natural Born Citizen" while adopting the Constitution in 1787. I do not think that YOU think that our Founding Fathers just "pulled things out of their asses". Just because the Media Elite does NOT report it, dose NOT mean it is "just made up". Don't just depend what the Media Elite reports.

According to birthers, Kurt, McCain was not born on US soil in the US. He was born in Panama. So he couldn't be President. So say the birthers logic. When it applies to a Republican, well, then, twisting begins! and so do the lies and here comes the racism and the bias!

Demsrock, your answer to your 7.19 comments are in 7.16, I will not repeat it. Wish you knew your Panama Canal History. Are you now going to lie that McCain was NOT born on a US Military on the Panama Canal while it was a US Territory to TWO (BOTH) parents are were US Citizens at the time of this birth??? It is NOT an issue with Obama WHERE he was born, it is the Natural Born Citizen issue that the father that Obama claims as his was NEVER a US Citizen, thus Obama, not matter WHERE he was born, even if born in the US Capitol Building, can NEVER be a Natural Born Citizen because one of his parents was NOT a citizen at the time of Obama's birth.

Hey Kurt and birthers: This is a fact: All children, except for children of diplomats, born in the United States are automatically natural born US citizens. Therefore, once and for all, President Obama is a natural born US citizen. Read it and weep.

And Kurt, I certainly do know my Panama Canal history. According to birthers logic, not mine, however, John McCain would not be a citizen. The facts still remain the facts: that any child, unless that a child of a diplomat, who is born in the United States of America, regardless of parental citizenship, is a natural born citizen.

demsrock, sorry to know that you think that a US MILITARY BASE on US Territory is NOT part of the US. Maybe your hate for the US Military makes you think that way. Get a clue, being born on a US military base in US Territory at time of birth to TWO US Citizen parents is a Natural Born Citizen. Unlike Obama or Rubio, which at least one of their parents was not a US Citizen at the time of their births, are not Natural born citizens. You can state any politically correct revisionist history on Natural Born Citizen Meaning. I will stick with the meaning as our Founding Fathers intended as taken from the Law of Nations in 1758. Are you so naive to think if it is not reported by the Media Elite then it must not be true?

Kurt, give us ONE iota of evidence that your cute little theory has any relevance to actual U.S. law. Just ONE.

The fact is that you're just plain wrong. Your kooky little theory that the Law of Nations pamphlet has legal bearing has no basis in the constitution or U.S. Code. You just made it up. A natural born citizen by any legal understanding in the United States is a citizen that was born a citizen instead of naturalized. END OF STORY.

Toasty you are being deliberately obtuse.

Kurt gave you the relevant case law, Wong v Ark (who is a citizen) and Minor v Happersat (who is a natural born citizen.)

Being deliberately obtuse, I doubt you will read them. It would destroy the illusions you cling to.

If however, I am wrong, please read first about Holding vs Dicta as it relates to SCOTUS decisions and the theory of judicial restraint.

As far as McCain goes....

His Mother and Father were both citizens. All four of his grandparents were US citizens.

WE HELD CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON WETHER OR NOT HE WAS ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.

Logically, it makes no sense NOT to hold Obama to the exact same standards.

After all, that's what equality REALLY is, isn't it?

No Alil, I have read them. They didn't support Kurt's fantasy, so I was being polite by not pointing that out this time. As I have stated time and again, Kurt's fictional requirements have zero bearing on the reality of U.S. law. PERIOD. Correcting his strange little fantasy isn't "obtuse," it's basic common courtesy.

Oh my god Kurt - my grandaughter was born in the UK - my daughter was an American Citizen and her father was a Brit

I guess accordinging to your rules she can never become President

Sorry - but Obama was born from a United States Citizen - whether on an aircraft - an ocean liner in the Cape of Good Hope - or in a jungle in Timbuktu - he is an American Citizen - so stuff your BS in your American cap - but nice try with all of your birther friends - have a nice Tea Party - and finally go away- you are so boring - what is worse than being boring - nothing

Toasty, I know your mind is feeble, and automatically resists any information that might throw even the slightest doubt upon the amazingness of anything Obama does...

It's OK! I will personally help you.

Holding - Anything mentioned in the SCOTUS (or other courts) decision that is related to the matter at hand. In other words, if the court is hearing a case about wether or not someone is a citizen, then all things related to that matter are HOLDING, or precedent. For instance, in US v Wong Kim Ark, the issue at hand was wether or not Wong was a citizen. Therefore, anything written in the opinion regarding citizenship is HOLDING, or precedent. The court was NOT deciding if Wong was a "Natural Born Citizen" for purposes of The Constitution. Therefore, anything in the decision NOT related to the matter before the court - If Wong was a citizen - Is in fact......

Dicta - Any opinions the court mentions in relation to other matters, not related to the matter the court is deciding, are DICTA, and NOT to be considered as precedent. So in Minor v Happerstat, when the court was deciding "Natural Born Citizen", any mention of citizenship is DICTA, or not precedent, while discussions regarding natural born citizenship are actually HOLDING, or binding legal precedent.

Judicial Restraint - The legal practice that makes Holding and Dicta definitive results... the theory and practice that the courts will not delve into matters other than the issues before them that they are obligated to resolve. In other words, the courts will decide the matter at hand (holding) and will not expand thier reach into other areas.

Now go read them again.

Toasty, I apologize for saying your mind is feeble. Personal attacks are usually not my style, although I do respond fiercly to such. In my defense, I can only say msndc has decided they don't much like my opinion... currently they are running 17 different scripts to my browser. My protection is good but the conflict of fighting them off slows me down, and I was unable to edit that out before the edit timer counted down to 0. As a rabid Obama supporter, I'm sure that never happens to you.

PS Toasty - No comment on why McCain had Congressional Hearings, but Obama didn't?

Objectively, it makes sense to hold them both to THE EXACT SAME STANDARDS.

But then, I feel like you sort of lost your objectivity a little ways back.

Or maybe you sold it.

Either way.

And Brbara Adams Jackson-

LOOK! I'm typing all in bold like YOU!

And YES! You are CORRECT! She can NEVER be President. Ever ever.

So sad, too bad.

The idea is that anybody leading The Country needed to feel some loyalty.

Archaic? Maybe.

Know any Fighters? Real ones?

Ask them.

See, theoretically, 2 parents could emigrate to The US, have a baby, he's a citizen. Kid could spend a day here, then be trained in China, like that russian dude in Rocky 3. Should he be eligible for Prez?

The Founding Fathers say: Ixne on the emigree.

They knew. They thought about the future of things, and they wrote a code to be followed, so that People would always be Free.

It's called The Constitution.

Ron Paul 2012

At least John knows something about economics.

$500 haircuts means he knows something about economics? Sound more like he knows something about being a defense contractor.

The Democratic party threw John Edwards out. Too bad the righties lack the same backbone to throw out the trash on their side.

PVALDES - really cute I thought the Republican party might nominate Reagan - resurect him from the grave - yet haven't they all resurected the losers already?

I'll take my deck of cards over yours - Huntsman- Bachmann - Perry - Pawlenty - Cain - Santorum - Paul - and lest we forget the Mittens

No Draw I'll stand with my cards - four Aces - all black - Obama!

I have not heard of Mr. Goode. Bill Still and Ron Paul are good alternatives as well.

Ron Paul or None at All.

We WILL NOT toe the party line.

We WILL NOT vote for whoever the GOP puts up.

Hell, WE'RE NOT EVEN REALLY REPUBLICANS!!!!!

End The Wars. Bring Our Troops Home Now. Restore Our Liberties. Repeal the NDAA and The Patriot Act.

Liberals For Ron Paul 2012

Watermoon, what you are failing to post is that that bill was written and voted on unanimously by the Republicans. So it is Obama that is the bad guy. If he hadn't signed it and vetoed it, the republicans had enough votes to override his veto.

Hey old gaffer, we elected President Obama in 2008, a truly historical thing we did, and yet you blame this President because of the other side's hatred and bias that obviously still exists? Really? That's the best you can do? Whom does this President hate? He hates no one. I can truly say that I am disappointed in this country who has even one person in it who lays blame at the door of the hated rather than calling to task those who are the haters. There are many in this country, politically and racially, who hate this President. This President has brought to light and with transparency the dirty inside of politics. This President isn't dirty, old gaffer, he is the one in there pointing out just how dirty politics is in Washington. How very disappointing that when times are tough, after the republicans left us with such a stinking disaster, that you, like the republicans, turn tail and run. Me, I am sticking with President Obama, because compared with the filth the republicans left us holding the bag with, I will vote in November, and I am voting for Democrats. Because I know that Democrats stand with me. Republicans are slimy with their quest for money, power, and their greed is stinking up the place. Republicans are poised to sell us out the highest bidder, that is a fact. Republicans are not on the side of the people, they are on the side of money and corruption. That is the truth.

demsrock, are you kidding me?

EVERY President has had to deal with the other party.

EVERY President has had to bring people together to make the government work.

NOT EVERY President has had control of ALL THREE BRANCHES for almost two years.

Only Obama whines that he doesn't have TOTAL Control!

Here, maybe Jon Stewart can explain it to you sheeple, unless he's too "right wing" for you.....LOLS!!!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-december-7-2011/arrested-development---one-way-train-to-gitmo

Obama has two out of the three legislative branches of govt. He FAILS to get anything done.

Hey, how about that budget? You know, the Bush budget of 2009 NEVER PASSED. Instead, the Dem controlled House and the Dem controlled Senate sent Bush a continuing resolution to fund the govt thru March 6 2009. We STILL have no budget. We're stiiiilllllll waiting! Obama put forth 2 budgets in three years, and the republicans were able to force votes on BOTH of them. In 2010 the republicans forced a vote in the Senate. The President's budget proposal went down in flames, 97-0. Not even ONE DEMOCRAT would go on record as voting for that nonsense from The President. In 2012, The House forced a vote on The Presidents budget proposal. AGAIN, NOT EVEN ONE DEMOCRAT would go on record as supporting Obama's budgetary NONSENSE. True Story Bro!

By the way, for those unaware or willfully ignorant in some cases....

THE BUDGET CANNOT BE FILIBUSTERED! IT IS A STRAIGHT UP DOWN VOTE!!!!!!

Cheers!

Ron Paul 2012

http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/Consolidated_Security,_Disaster_Assistance,_and_Continuing_Appropriations_Act_of_2008

I hope you are one of those 1% millionaires the liberals hate so much that hides millions in foreign accounts. Because America is on fire and your money is being taken and wasted from right under you nose by this administration, but you go and vote for Sheriff Obama again...because he's cute!

OK - I will. Thanks for your permission @Truth.... And I am one of the 99% who the private sector is hiring so heavily. And soon because the necessity the government will start hiring. And then we will have close to full employment again. Which is why I think POTUS is sooooo cute!! And soooo smart!! And soon my 52% (females) will have the burden of more expensive health care lifted off our backs!! Another reason I think POTUS is sooooooooo cute!!!

Maybe you can get Justin Beiber to run as VP then, he is just as competent as B.O. and would surely pick up a few million votes from more liberals who are dim enough to vote based on looks.

pjam09,

Even Beiber would be more competent then any of the Repulican candidates. He wouldn't drool over praise from Fox News.

Ron Paul 2012

Bring the troops home, end the wars, restore fiscal sanity.

People say Ron Paul is stuck in the past, but he is really focused on The Future.

Do you want to have a future where 200,000 unmanned surviellance drones are watching your every move? The FAA has cleared airspace for 200,000 unmanned surveillance drones by 2020.

Not so far into the future....

Bush, and now Obama, have signed away our Constitutional Rights.

Will our future be that of a police state?

Or will the country that defined Liberty actually HAVE Liberty.

The choice is ours, people.

We The People need to take a long hard look...

And then we need to decide what kind of future we want for ourselves, and for our children.

Chatty. So you are being sexist by voting mostly because of his looks, ignoring his incompetence. Nice double-standard. Doesn't that go against the Liberal Feminist agenda about men hiring women for their looks? The content of his character doesn't matter in your case. nuf said.

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s
debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S.
Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing
financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s
reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically
and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead,
Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our
children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.

At the time, Senator Obama was urging Congress not to
tolerate an increase that would bring the debt ceiling to $9 trillion. It's now over $15 Trillion under his watch....Talk about "the pot calling the kettle black."

Forget about this incompetent, arrogant, shameful piece of @!$%# we have in the oval office right now as you try and turn one page of human history as neatly as possibly by making the blood stain as incorporated into all the following pages, you would have made Alexander the Great and Julius Cesar a side not in all of human history HU from the existence of the second most extraordinary power to proving the supreme legitimacy of the first -that would not cause governments to crumble one bit-but actually strengthen their positions across a more normal and decent world HU...

What a waste HU so our blood soaked bitch does not look bad as everything possible is done to keep us all on America's alternate reality to taking away what is most important based on what is least important...

What a waste...

Rich, you have my admiration. Your undaunting struggle with mental health is an inspiration for us all.

Poor Rich, to be so mentally ill as to be so incoherent. But then again, Rich is the epitomy of what the Republican party is these days. We had an arrogant red neck (Bush) who ruined our economy, and lost millions of jobs and outsourced millions more overseas, and all republicans bring to the table now is racism and hatred. Yes, President Obama will be reelected, because with people like Bush and rich here, it is very clear that republicans are truly detrimental to our country, to our people, and the do nothing republicans in congress as well as people like rich here have proven then are in no position nor are they capable of leading this country back out of the ruin republicans put our country into in the first place. Yes indeed, President Obama is truly a breath of fresh air, and truly he is unafraid to get anything accomplished. Only republicans don't want anything accomplished, because heaven forbid, republicans can't seem to do without their racism, hatred, and yes, their runaway mouths that prattle gibberish and lies. What a mess republicans are, and truly rich here proves that.

demsrock, don't ever forget than in addition to the billions of dollars Bush wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan, he also wasted the lives of over 4,500 young Americans.

Oh Bruce, I didn't forget our troops. I had three family members serve multiple tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan. My family members are proud of their service, and they are proud to serve their country. They are true Americans. And, they have decency and respect, which is so lacking right now in our country who somehow think it is patriotic to act and talk with hatred, disrespect and dishonor of our President, who is their Commander In Chief. Seems are troops are the ones who know just what it means to be American. Republicans have no problem laying the blame on this President's doorstep for their folly under Bush and the Republicans certainly have no problem making sure we, the middle class, our troops and families, pick up the tab for supporting the Republicans' rich friends. Oh yes, the dividers, the unpatriotic, the unAmericans are republicans who dare to live and speak the lies of their party for political gain.

I respect and honor my country, the troops, our families, and my President. Too bad, and how sad, and truly dishonorable the Republican party is, and how very far from any respectful ideal they have strayed. But since they are truly driven by greed and power, it is clear why republicans are where they are today, the pockets of super pacs, wall street, the Koch brothers, Grover Norquist, Karl Rove, shall I go on?

Honor your country, save our troops, and work with us to get our country out of the grips of the republicans disaster of the bush/cheney years. Vote Obama-Biden and Democrats in your states in November.

demsrock, I beg of you.

Ask your people who were deployed

Who's foriegn Policy do they support?

PLEASE please please ask them.

Ron Paul 2012

YELL a LITTLE more TR.

You're foaming at the mouth. As for "corrupt corporates," they're cut from the same cloth as corrupt Chicago politicians. Look at Odumbo's cabinet and tell me he's not sucking up to corporate America and the unions. Two sides of the same coin.

Not sure if it's anywhere close to 99% of the people, according to the polls it's more like 40%. And your leader will lead you....over the cliff and straight into the toilet.

Hey Thinker, since Bush/Cheney already took us into the toilet, and we have been climbing back out of it since those morons are gone from office finally!, well it isn't rocket science as to who took the country into the toilet now is it. But like a good little republican soldier, you believe the lies being spoon fed to you by the republicans that really, bush did nothing, his debt and spending and the resultant bills are only fiction, that bush's debt and deficits left office when he did and we don't need to worry about paying his bills, and that President Obama did all this is the truth. How can you be so stupid. Oh, but that's right, repubs don't claim to be intelligent, they are just very good liars. And you actually believe getting jobs back, getting the "not rich", you know the "99%" back up off the mat where the repubs put us is not a good thing. Well thinker, I guess when you let the 1%, like Mitt, run things, you don't really have to think much at all do you. Just wait to be told what to do and what to think by your rich benefactors, and thank them for letting you be stupid and lazy, and then, just blame everybody else. No wonder Republicans took this country into the toilet. Their intelligence doesn't extend past the next rich benefactor who controls their purse strings, and people like thinker here live by that code. No wonder you ruined your country. Idiots all, and you wallow in your stupidity. Poor fools.

TR Rose, I know it sucks for you to think about, but the number one campaign contributor to Obama is...

Goldman Sachs.

Imagine?

People who pay attention are NOT suprised.

Poor antonio. I guess even you don't know the meaning of intelligence. Well it has been lacking on the Republican side for so long, you wouldn't recognize intelligence if it hit you in the face. Poor thing. Or are you, like your party, a racist and a hater?

Poor demsrock, attempting to discredit antonio2's free speech and all he can pull is a race card. Not even an attempt to justify Obama's experiences, either personally or professionally. No attempt to make an argument to what antonio 2 is saying, just a failed attempt to ridicule and discredit the source!

demsrock, your race card has been declined.

Do you have anything else you could use?

By the way, Karl Rove would be SOOOOOO Proud of you!

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Ya, that is what we thought about Bush in 04 but look what happened. Mitt is much like John Kerrey, rich, out of touch white male.

Did you say that about Kerry in 04?

President Obama rates very far higher than President Bush, but then righties don't care about facts. They love to wallow in their own ignorance and hate. Poor thing there rukidding. Clueless, but then again, all republicans are, and you all love to wallow in your own ignorant cesspool throwing hate around. Thank heavens we have better americans in our country than what you righties throw around. Truly you are an embarrassment. We try to make excuses for your ignorance, but we are out of excuses now for republicans at this point. You are just stinking up the place. But hey, makes it easier for us in November to get rid of the repubs in November. Go ahead, keep it up. Making it real easy, because you are even embarrassing your own side and independents, who are now voting for Democrats in November because they can't stand what the repubs are standing for - hatred, disrespect, dishonor, and doing nothing for the people, while you and others like you are willing to sell us out to the highest bidder.

Bush = Spending. I hated that.

Obama = Spending times Ten

Bush = Patriot act, I hated that. YOU DID TOO!!!

Obama = signed and expanded the patriot act. TWICE!!!

Bush = Wars. I hated that. YOU DID TOO!!!!!

Obama = Wars. I personally STILL HATE THAT!!!

Bush = Violating the Constitution (Patriot act)

Obama = violating The Constitution TIMES TEN!!! (NDAA, issuing a legal opinion that The President deciding to asassinate you means you had "due process" with no courts or lawyers involved, The Militery can act against The Citizens with the repeal of The Posse Comitatus))

In short.....

Name ONE thing you hated about Bush.

Obama DOES THE SAME THING!!!!! And Does it Better! (By which I mean, much much worse...)

True Story Bro.

Say, whatever happened to liberals? Remember "question authority"??? Remember "Bring The Troops Home"??? Remember "Make Love Not War"???

I liked those Liberals.

The Liberals here are total FAKES, mostly.

Phinephancy seems sincere. The rest of them knowingly LIE.

REAL Liberals don't need to LIE!!! Our Cause is RIGHTEOUS!!!. Our Cause is JUST!!!

Bring The Troops Home!!!

End The Wars!!!!

Take care of our poor, our elderley, HERE! At Home!!!!!

And yet I have to register as a republican to support a candidate who says these things...

AND MEANS THEM. AND DOESN'T LIE RIGHT TO MY FACE.

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

*most of the rest of them knowingly lie.

(For those unfamiliar, there are a group of crazed Obama Cultists who have finally figured out how to meet in secret - Popeye Voice: AAAAAAKakakakaaaaa - They were already plotting thier strategies to silence all dissenters long before they discovered that they had failed to set thier room to private. Shhhhh......)

Much as they failed at so many other things.... Life truly does imitate art, don't you know... they became exposed. Nevertheless, everyday they act like it is a new day. Like the Soldier in The Mist from the novel by Guy Lariel Kay, they awaken each day with no apparent recollection of the previous days events. At least he kept a notebook. Sheesh.

And so, once again, I decry the FAKE liberalism that goes on here.

And so, once again, I repeat my call for sanity, fiscally, constitutionally, and with the God Given Rights of My Creator, To be FREE, in My Spirit, in My Body, and in My Mind. To be a slave to NOONE!

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

If following The Constitution is CRAZY.......

Then I'm CRAZY as Funk. And there's a LOT of people who are Crazy with me.

If you insist on shutting out those who you do not agree with, then You're truly going to be suprised.

Good for you, now head off to the mailbox and pick up your handout.

Billie, repubs are not interested in fixing anything, least of all the disaster they left us, and this President to fix. Repubs care only about one thing, money; and secondly, power. That is the platform of the GOP now, money and power. If you are a member of a party that calls poor women "slovenly", and the poor "a drag on society", why anyone would vote for that party is beyond me, especially since the number of people who went from middle class to poor was under George Bush. The middle class has been losing ground on everything since the 1970's. The GOP believes firmly that the rich are the benefactors of all and should have all, and trickle down economics is the way. Really? Business are sitting on trillions. Where are the jobs? Oh, that's right, gotta sit on that money, because to hire anyone would be a democratic victory. Give me a break. The GOP is all about money and power, and not for the people. The GOP is detrimental to the American way of life.

Billie, I'm curious... I understand your argument that he's like cleaning the Stygian Stables or something, but what is that you're saying about ". He has cleaned up some old and traditional cultural problems under his command."??????

And now with the possibility of this administration dipping into our 401k's, pretty sure there will be no end in sight.

The only thing that matters is that Oil companies like Exxon, BP, Shell, and Citco are able to retain the Billion Dollar US taxpayer paid for tax breaks they now receive in spite of recording the most outrageous multi-billion dollar profits ever recorded in the history of Planet Earth for the last (5) years.

pjam, under Bush and the Republicans, there were overpayments under Medicare. and not one republican even looked into that fact, let alone tried to fix it. Last year, President Obama cut out the fraud under Medicare Advantage, and he put a program in place that rewards excellence in care. Only the GOP is as backward as to believe that having incentives in place to reward taking fraud out of the system and rewarding excellence in care is a bad thing. another example where the GOP is driven not by facts and the truth, but hatred and racism and bias and lies. Keep proving my point GOP, that you only believe lies and don't think for yourselves, let alone seek the truth. Lazy incompetents is a good definition of the GOP and the righties today.

demsrock, there is literally saliva dripping on my fangs as I read your post. I've marked this for later.

Wanna Logic?

("...under Bush and the Republicans, there were overpayments under Medicare. and not one republican even looked into that fact, let alone tried to fix it.")

See, right here I actually call you a Liar. And I can prove it.

Want to continue?

Bruce, thanks for proving FOX only reports lies. But we already know the GOP and FOX are flat out liars anyway. Seek and you shall find the truth. Good job Bruce!

I would, Bush is the biggest disgrace to this country ever and it is not easy to clean up his garbage.