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Subscribe to RSSRepublicans pushed an election-year, $3.5 trillion budget through the House on Thursday that relies on biting spending cuts and a revamping of Medicare to curb massive federal deficits, drawing a sharp contrast with how President Barack Obama and Democrats would tackle the nation's fiscal problems.
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House Speaker John Boehner arrives for a news briefing on the GOP's budget proposal March 29 on Capitol Hill.
House passage came on a near party-line, 228-191 vote. With its doom guaranteed in the Democratic-run Senate, the House measure was essentially a political stage on which Republicans showed voters how they would run Washington if they win control in the November elections — and Democrats fired back by doing the same.
See related: Who killed the debt talks?
The GOP plan features sharper deficit reduction and starkly less government than Democrats want. It would block Obama's proposal to boost taxes on the wealthy and would instead lower income tax rates while erasing many unspecified tax breaks. Obama's budget would raise taxes on families making above $250,000 and on oil and gas companies, add funds for roads and schools and cull modest savings from domestic programs.
"We think America is on the wrong track," said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the spending plan's chief author and a rising party star who is sometimes mentioned as a vice presidential prospect. "We think the president is bringing us to a debt crisis and a welfare state in decline."
Democrats accused the GOP of writing a plan that would end the age-old guarantee that Medicare would cover most of seniors' medical bills and would slash transportation, research and other programs far too deeply, even as the measure would protect the rich from Obama's proposed tax hikes.
"The more people know about that budget, the more people know it hurts them in their lives," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
Congress' budget is a nonbinding road map that suggests tax and spending changes lawmakers should make in separate, later legislation. A House-Senate stalemate over the fiscal blueprint would have scant practical impact as Congress tackles what little budget work it is expected to address before the November elections.
Final approval in the House came after lawmakers swatted down a slew of alternatives over the past two days, including a package by the most conservative Republicans that featured even sharper spending cuts and deeper deficit reduction than Ryan's leadership-backed plan.
The conservative plan claimed to turn this year's $1.2 trillion federal deficit into a balanced budget in five years. Most analysts consider that unachievable because few lawmakers would vote for the package's proposed cuts.
None of the competing budgets by Ryan, Obama or House Democrats claim to balance the budget within the next decade.
Underlining the growing influence of tea party and other conservative Republicans, a clear majority of GOP lawmakers voted for the conservatives' plan. It was defeated because virtually every Democrat voted against it.
Republicans forced a vote on Obama's budget and it was rejected 414-0, with Democrats worried that a "yes" vote would provide fodder for campaign ads accusing them of backing anything voters might dislike in the president's plan.
Also rejected was a compromise mix of tax increases and spending cuts offered by moderates of both parties and modeled on recommendations issued by Obama's bipartisan deficit reduction commission. It got only 38 votes.
The GOP package would slice everything from food stamps to transportation. It envisions collapsing the current six income tax rates into just two, with a top rate of 25 percent compared with today's 35 percent. It would also eliminate unspecified tax breaks.
"Our team actually went and made the tough choices, made the tough choices to preserve freedom in America and to deal with our fiscal nightmare," said House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.
Democrats said they, too, were eager to stanch deficits that now exceed $1 trillion annually. But they said it needed to be done in a more balanced way, with rich and poor alike sharing the load.
"The Republican budget kicks the middle class in the stomach," said Rep. Steve Israel, D-N.Y.
The House GOP budget would cut spending by $5.3 trillion more over the next decade than Obama's would — out of more than $40 trillion that would still be spent during that period. It envisions repeal of the president's health care overhaul and sets a course for deep reductions for highway and rail projects, research and aid to college students and farmers while easing planned defense cuts.
It also would cut taxes by $2 trillion more than the president's plan over that time, leaving Republicans seeking about $3.3 trillion in deeper deficit reduction than Obama.
Drawing the most political heat was Ryan's plan for Medicare, the $500 billion-a-year health insurance program for older Americans that all sides agree is growing so fast its future financing is shaky. Both parties know that seniors vote in high numbers and care passionately about the program.
Republicans would leave the plan alone for retirees and those near retirement, letting the government continue paying much of their doctors' and hospital bills.
For younger people, Medicare would be reshaped into a voucher-like system in which the government would subsidize people's health care costs. Republicans say that would drive down federal costs by giving seniors a menu of options that compete with each other. Democrats say government payments won't keep up with the rapid inflation of medical costs, leaving many beneficiaries struggling to afford the care they need.
Republicans would turn Medicaid, the nearly $300 billion-a-year federal-state health insurance program for the poor, into a grant that states could use as they wish. They also would trim its growth by $800 billion over the next decade, out of spending during that time that is expected to exceed $4 trillion.
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Why the beef about the deficit, VP Cheney said they didn't matter. Now they do? Why? Govt growing? Well hell yes it is, since Bush created the Homeland Security Dept, and if you don't believe me, go to your airport and get a free feeling up job done on you, your grandmother, and your kids.
Let's cut the TSA out of existence. They haven't stopped anything. All they have done is get people mad. Start profiling the passengers. I doubt if your grandmother plans to blow up a plane. If it was full of politicians, granny just might do it, go granny!
sally needs to pull her head out of her... in 8 years the TSA has confiscated over 35000 weapons attempted to be brought onto planes in the US, please sally for your sake - learn a little about the topic BEFORE you post - this way you wont look like such a boob
And PC/NOT shows how flip flop Republicans are on government. They like it only when it's part of their argument and hate it when it fits their argument. Now telling the two apart, good luck. They can't even do it.
and your point?
My point. It's your shadow that is following you. It will not harm you but you Republicans keep on insisting on fighting it. It's entertaining for sure but dangerous since you all wish to do it to all of us. Whatever you mentally challenged people are up to, leave America out of it. Cuba is getting weak on radicals. Maybe you all would fit Castro better.
another sober minded fiscally sound budget plan that will never get past the senate and we'll be stuck with obamas plan thats...wait...NOTHING
Better than shooting yourself in the head with a Republican Plan. A plan written by and for the elite. One that wipes out everything you had to back YOU PC up in case the ECONOMY erupts. Do you understand history or just a ranting troll?
could lefty REALLY be such a dunce as not to recognise the true elitists are the liberal elitists, the prancing arrogant little fruad posing as a president is the finest example of an elitist weve EVER gotten stuck with
PC, just look behind you. No physically, mentally. Do you see Bush in the emergency meeting with Candidate McCain? Yeah, those 8 years of fail policies. Do you homework or you look dumb PC.
PC, have you ever heard the word FACT? Aren't you tired of repeating the same crap over and over?
I know that Fox told you so, but at least find some other subject besides calling Obama names (as if he cared), calling people elitist, frauds, arrogants, etc.
If you could come up with some substantial proof to make your point please do so, but I fear that what's left of your brain is totally occupied with the advice of the pundits or Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, Palin, and the rest of the scum whose only goal is to make Obama a one term president, damn the country, the economy or anything else that stands in their way. Get educated, get informed. Fat chance!
I guess you have not really read the Ryan budget. You do realize that it does not even reduce the deficit until 2040? Guess that one slipped past your reading!!!!
He can't read anything beyond these posts.
Rasputin-2589057
Why can't you hard headed liberals deal with the following:
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/subprime.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4A0RuXhnQA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=related
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html
And the one that goes into how Frank/Dodd will probably get us into even more trouble:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/businessdesk/2011/07/joseph-stiglitz-barney-frank-r.html
And I almost forgot what Clinton handed to Bush before he left:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/24/the-dot-com-bubble-how-to-lose-5-trillion/
Ranting Radical Republican Troll.
I guess that you can't read anything beyond these posts. If you would have bothered to even read the article above, Ryan's plan is compared to Obama's on deficit reduction.
It would appear that once again the ignorant liberals choose to remain that way. Hell you want even address the accusations of those that were there when all the crap happened. All liberals are incorrigible hypocrites.
AtheistLefty
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
Rick-312779
Wait, the last presidency the republicans had, they blew a surplus. They killed 4000+ Americans on a vendetta. They graduated everyone, regardless of their knowledge. They crashed the American economy, the Euro, I can't name them all but, the Global Economy!
You are wanting the same people in that put you where you are.
And liberals are ignorant. pfft.
Bosslimo
Follow this link to a previous post. This will address some of what you just brought up....#84.7
There was no surplus when Bush took office, it disappeared with the collapse of the dot com boom.
They did not kill anybody unless you are talking about the Muslims.
They did not crash the economy unless you are talking about the housing bubble which was inflated by democrat policies. Remember the democrats controlled congress when the bubble burst.
And I don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about whey you say they graduated everybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4A0RuXhnQA This video is private. Can't see it.
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/subprime.htm Please explain why Bush didn't fix this? Had controll of everything and failed to address it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZ9l_AxKjA&feature=related partial clips. Where is the rest of it? Picking and choosing while adding them together?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html Clearly points to deregulation in Bush presidency.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/businessdesk/2011/07/joseph-stiglitz-barney-frank-r.html is an opinion piece pushing a book. "New York Times finance specialist Gretchen Morgenson and co-author Josh Rosner,
a longtime housing analyst, talk about their new bestseller, "Reckless
Endangerment" (no. 17 on the Times list this week)."
Nice try to pin the tale on the donkey but it isn't holding water.
Try this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
Make sure to get a good look at its sponsors. Don't forget who controlled what too.
Since the Iraq war was found to be based on false information provided to Powell by the vice-president, we had no business going there.
Therefore, 4000+ American soldiers died on a lie.
The only social reform a republican has done since Nixon, the No Child Left Behind Act. That is what I was refering to.
Cut, Cap, Balance!
Bring back PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Government is not a CURE ALL! Change won't happen, until Harry Reid and the Libs and Dems in the Senate are voted out!
personal responsibility and self relience and truth for that matter isnt in the liberal bigots language - the democrat plan - the obama plan is simple make the citizens of this country as dependant on the government as possible
Yes, as you are dependant on Fox Garbage.
relience? reliance!
isnt? isn't!
Try to use some punctuation and commas, they are right there, lower right.
So tired of the Republican trolling and ranting. Same old Rush and Grover talking points. Republicans are lost. No direction. They range from racism to attacking Girl Scouts. Then, back to the economy with a plan that will harm them all directly. But, do they care? Have they read? Do they understand? NO. This budget is for the elite from the elite. I'm sure they'll coat their budget with a little radical Christianity to make it more tasty for the minions. Gets them fired up for some unknown reason.
A lack of a budget is "no direction". So do you line up with Harry and agree "at this point there is no need for a budget"? Do you understand this must be answered?
There are a lot of victims of FOXwashing out there, who will vote against their best interest every time. The Australian, Rupert Murdock should be made to pay for his destruction of America.
I pity the poor deluded supporters of the Republican Party. Of course if you make more than $250,000.00, then the Republicans Are working for you. It is natural that you would vote for them.
So Fox news is to blame now. Come on lets throw in Bush too, just for old times sake. Shoot all we gotta do is get those teachers some retirement funds, repair a bridge or road for the volts to go down (with proper air pressure), sprinkle on some solar panel loans and build a choo choo train, Ain't no mountain high enough. Those poor deluded people.
I find it more than just a little amusing that the liberals talk about republicans screwing up the economy by following those like Rupert Murdoch while they follow and are financially supported by George Soros who made his vast fortune by manipulating currencies and destroying the economies of entire countries.
Harry Reid, Obama and the Dems think ignoring this growing Debt and Deficit will "cure" itself! It won"t!!
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Bring back personal responsibility. Really, so you are for the individual mandate?
Don-2316123
I am for one having a work ethic, planning and being responsible for ones own retirement, planning and being responsible for ones own health care, and not trusting some "Nanny Government", who has stolen those funds, from the very fools that think the numbers worked and government is honest!
Do the math, the numbers don't work! You been had!
seriously'
Obama's very strong for policy, is Hillary Clinton, what a woman.
I dont know what you call it, but things suck all over. democrat or republican. its going to stay that way until we as a society, a union work in unison, not compromise to appease. congress sent a budget approved along party lines mostly, that affects social programs off the table. Social programs that were paid into for 40 years or more.
Thats not an entitlement, thats getting some of your money back. the issue the gop faces is truth, that is;
they are the foot soldiers of corporate interest first and foremost.
Donovan-2439134
Has it ever occurred to you, the Congress you voted for for over 40 years for Social Welfare Programs, the Congress who exempted themselves from the very laws you were required to obey, ROBBED YOU and your "social welfare" programs!
Do the math! The social welfare programs numbers do not work! Sucker! Feel dumb, arguing for something that is not there!
So not a single House member voted for Obama's budget. SLAP! The House needs to keep doing what they're doing. They are trying to pass a budget and Reid and the democrats in the Senate are blocking everything sent to them. All bills are DOA and the media calls the GOP the party of no..
Is there now any doubt that the Republicans represent the rich and everyone else can suck it.
The Republican motto of "ALL FOR ME AND F--- YOU" is clear in this this budget.
Thats fine. So the process is for the democrats to negotiate but they dont want to. The party of NO..
Some corner the US has backed into by subsidizing segments of the population. For example, if farm subsidies are dropped, food prices will rise because the government is a better, more and easily available market than the open market. If payments to the unemployed and not going to be employed are dropped, their lawlessness such as theft and drug sales will increase and police protection costs will increase. If taxes are lowered, borrowing from foreigners goes up. Expect a wild ride in the next decade.
We need a good man like Joe Stalin to get all this in order. Oh, sorry, we already have him. Even the liberal SCOTUS is a bit worried about the supreme ruler. He must have turned off their heat last winter.
1. You are not being told the entire story by your liberal friends. Raising the taxes on the rich people's incomes will NOT create jobs. Since when do the rich use their personal incomes to hire people in their businesses?? They pay for their employees through their corporate earnings which they pay over 35% in taxes on. Would you as a business owner use your personal money to pay for your employees wages? I don't think so.
2. We need to go through extreme measures to get our economy back on the right side. Once on the right side then some items that were cut can be reintroduced but done in a better way. Why not basically start over, get our country on its economic balance again and then do things better?? What is wrong with that?? A better economy means more businesses survive and more people have jobs and more people can afford things like healthcare and college educations.
3. Why is trimming the budget, paying down the deficit, cutting the amount of government and trying to create a solid future for our country a load of crap?? Explain that one to me.
Paul Ryan and John Boehner have set themselves up for failure when and if they use Ryan's proposed budget to hawk their narrow-minded issues. The TEA-GOP-Republican effort to fight this battle against president Obama in a political year will spell doom for their party. John Boehner,
Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and others running for the TEA-GOP-Republican candidates, embrace Ryan's new budget. This budget counters president Obama's budget point-per-point. The president's plan addresses no new taxes on anyone earning less then $200,000.00 per year and 12% would get tax cuts. President Obama's budget structures tax increases only on the very rich. Households making between $200,000.00 and $500,00.00 would see an average increase of almost $2,800.00 and those with income in excess of $1 million would increase 18%. The tax cuts enacted during the Bush Administration would be allowed to expire 2013. Capital gains taxes and dividend taxes would also increase while extending tax credits to lower earning workers and curbing Big Oil and Gas company tax breaks. Get registered! Get out and get involved! Get out the vote! Then get out the vote!
rudy- take your marxist dnc talking points back to the pit of hell where they came from
Obama by a landslide in 2012!
Rudy: Keep in mind that Robinson is a preacher! It's hard to believe, but he'll tell you that he is a preacher and that he has the poor, the downtrodden, the elderly, and the children in his heart. He just believes the government should not provide any aid at all to them. He feels sorry for the poor bastards, but anyone who believes the larger community ought to help is a Stalinist, a Marxist, a Maoist, and Satan himself--and consequently---all Democrats and liberals are communists and will burn in the fires of hell forever and ever. That's what you're dealing with here, Rudy. The man will tell you what I'm saying is exactly correct.
TJ
Liberals prefer to reflect the lie of "Liberation Theology" rather than the teachings of Jesus. This is a humanist/socialist view of Christianity and is of the spirit of the Anti-Christ. Helping the needy for Christians must come from the heart and be done as unto Jesus Himself (Matthew 25, Isaiah 58, and others). You and Obama advocate something very UNCHRISTIAN which is socialism by wanting it to be done by compulsion and theft. It amounts to asking Christians to sin by putting our trust and transferring glory to man/government instead of God. Christians are required out of love that has been poured into our hearts to demonstrate Christ's love to others and in so doing, glorify God. The ONLY way that this can be done through government is in a theocracy, and NO ONE wants to see that.
Having the govt seize our property and redistributing it to glorify man/govt is a sin and contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles
and in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15
Isaiah 58:6-9
Larry - Face it, Jesus established the Democratic Party...
Don- Jesus would NEVER advocate that we turn our backs on God and worship man instead. The Democrats stand for marxist secular humanism. Giving government the glory for our provision instead of God is idolatry and will send those who do so to hell.
Here is a definition of insanity: you keep doing the same thing but expect different results!
Here is a definition of the Republican party: You must have tax reductions: that will make the economy stronger [economy crashes] more tax reductions: that will make the economy stronger [economy crashes] more tax reductions: that will make the economy stronger [economy crashes].
When will we quit listening to this @!$%#?
Ryan - what we need is more tax breaks for the wealthy, you know it worked so well before, under Bush, we have to do it again! ... Why?
For all you left wingnuts out there...here's a news flash!
While odumbo was ridiculing U.S. oil companies, I guess his inept staff failed to pick up that just 2 hrs prior to this clueless wonder's speach,, it was reported that the Chinese now have the largest oil company in the world! Thanks obozo!! And they did it in just 13 years! Read how they did it by leveraging THEIR OWN OIL FIELDS, SUBSIDIZING THE COMPANY and buying into foreign production.
And this week, this baffoon of a president was traveling to oil states trying to show support for the industry while behind their backs, cutting oil leaseholds on Fed land by 36%. What lying, slimy POS. This spineless, socialist (and it makes me ill to call him) "President" is dragging this country into the social abiss. That's why we're going to KICK THIS CLOWN OUT IN NOVEMBER.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10921074-chinese-oil-company-surpasses-exxon-as-worlds-largest
Exxon Mobil has lost its position as the world's biggest publicly traded producer of oil, according to The Associated Press.
That distinction now belongs to PetroChina, a 13-year-old Chinese company created by the Chinese government to secure more oil for that nation's booming economy, the report said.
PetroChina announced Thursday that it pumped 2.4 million barrels a day last year, surpassing Exxon by 100,000, the AP reported.
"The company has grown rapidly over the last decade by squeezing more from China's aging oil fields and outspending Western companies to acquire more petroleum reserves in places like Canada, Iraq and Qatar. It's motivated by a need to lock up as much oil as possible," according to the report.
What is a "baffoon" you ignorant half wit?
@ Slide 6
Social abyss?? What a moron you are. I am 65 years old stupid. I have lived through the S&L scandal, 10 years of leveraged buy-outs, Another ten years of contractor contrived, unpaid wars. I have lived through the Watergate scandal. I have watched the tax policies of the right cause trillions of un-earned un-taxed cash flow to the top. I have been through the lies of the Bush family. I have seen the result of no child which was brought to us because the software company that the Bush Brothers owned sold millions of copies if their !Ignight software to teach the test. So just stop it young man who knows nothing. I am an old man! Try to bull s*it someone else. Your youth decries you. You are never going to be wealthy. It is all a pipe dream.
The right wing fanatics believe Ryan's budget will only affect Democrats, liberals, the poor, the downtrodden, the elderly and chidren, but it will not affect them. Same is true of the Health Care legislation. hahahahaahahaha
The only good thing about having a republican in office is that it makes SNL and David Letterman even funnier... aside from that, nothing good comes from republican rule... I've seen it for 20 of my 31 years, and have lived under enough to last me to 90.
Read how they did it by leveraging their own oil fields...
Do you realize yout own problem: the fact that China is subidising its own oil providers? But that's OK, isn't it, whatever China does is OK, isn;t it? Do you care about America? No, I think not!
E...you must be as clueless as obozo. My point was, China took advantage of THEIR OWN OIL SUPPLY and at the same time, bought into foreign production while heavily SUBSIDIZING the company. "Subsidy" is different than "tax breaks" or did you not know that? Sunsidies are like free money...kind of like the $500MILLION obozo blew on Solyndra at OUR EXPENSE!
Wake up, pull your head out of the obozo - demoloon ether man!
@ slide 6
Why worry about Solyndra. We are spending 2 billion a week on your gad damn war. We can 8 lane I-75 from Miami to Mackinaw for just two weeks of your war money so STFU
BTW meathead subsidy is government cash no matter how it is spent or how it is handed out. Shoot we never complained about having to pay for you little school bus.
We'll see the TRUE party of 'no" when it hits the dem controlled senate for approval.
What absolutely amazes me is the demoslugs and left wingnuts have such selective memory. Remember, you clowns contolled the senate, house AND presidency for over two frickin' years and never even PROPOSED A BUDGET! All you did was spend another $4TRILLION DOLLARS!
Like obozocare that was rammed down our throats, you could have passed ANY BUDGET or any legislation that you wanted but you didn't have the ballz and wanted the repubs to have some skin in it in case it back fired. Well guess what, it did!
So you shmucks can can all the budget rhetoric because your leading 3 stooges, obozo, reid and pelosi FAILED TO EVEN PROPOSE A BUDGET OR, TAKE ON THE NAT'L DEBT ISSUE WHEN YOU HAD TOTAL CONTROL!
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!
Thanks for the hate-spewing, childish, name-calling rant. You are clearly ignorant as dirt.
Slide - When the Dem's took over they had more important things to do, like saving the entire economy from collapse...Guess you forgot that...
Passing a budget at that time was useless, given the state of the economy the entire focus was on stopping the depression, which btw, the GOP caused. I wish the GOP had been elected in 2008 because I would have liked to have seen what a great depression looks like, because that's what GOP policies would have given us. I don't know what rock you hide under but it's time to go back under.
Slide 6: The Chinese oil company is ultimately owned by the state. Now, if you add all of the oil companines in the USA and those outside the USA that are owned by American interests, then you begin to get some idea of the comparison and contrast of Chinese versus American oil ownership. By the way, the Chinese population is 1 billion, 300 million people. The USA has not even reached 300 million people yet. Do you think the Chinese will use more oil than the United States given their population is ONE BILLION more people than live in the USA????? They probably sell more clothes and shoes in China than we sell in the U.S. too. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................
The Congress can budget for 10 years and it might mean something, really, but can you grasp that over the past Four Years Congress Support Budget for was $60 Billion total over Four Years or with 535 members , it is 121 Million for Each Member over Four Years.
Four Year Cost of Running Congress, $34,000,000,000
Four Year Cost of Running Lobbyists, $26,000,000,000
Four Year Cost of Running Corruption $60,000,000,000
Benefit to Citizens Paying Congress, $0
Four Year Cost of Member of Congress, $63,551,402
Four Year Cost of Member's Lobbyists, $48,598,131
Four Year Cost of Member of Corruption, $112,149,533
Benefit to Citizens Paying Congress, $0
If Congress is just playing badmittion games for all these years, should we have a score more than Zero?
What would happen, if we needed something done?
Congress can Add, but the U.S. Citizen can sleep for years, and years and years.
If Congress can waste Four Years, could they waste 10 more years. Didn't they waste the last 30 years.
The future is not that hard to predict, zero is not hard to remember, and zero it cannot be stolen.
Try this word one letter at a time E C O N O M Y, each letter by itself means little, together is a new word.
The Liberal Leftists on here are pannicking for good cause.
Obama last 2 budgets have been shot down without a positive vote,, by either Republicans or Democrats.. explain that to me if you can ? Which you can't .
Obama has never written a sane budget,, his first 10 year budget called for the National Debt to increase to $23.7 Trillion from 2010 to 2020,,, I realize the Democrats know nothing about economics,, but Moderates and those on the Right are smart enough to understand that the USA Defaults before we ever hit those numbers.
Clinton left no surplus,, that is a fact,, he left a projected surplus that never materialized because the Tech Boom Crashed in his last year in office. Clinton left office in a recession ,, that he did not cause ,, it was timing ,, please note my comments are facts and not opinions based on hatred or emotion.
E Engineer,, usually engineers are good with data,, your $11.9 Trillion Deficit you claim Bush left is wrong, Bush left a $10.9 Trillion Debt... and the deficit was $5.5 when he took over. Obama wiped out that record.
The Liberals have nothing but to blame Bush for the economy,, today,,, how weak,, Obama has 3 + years , spent more money than any 2 presidents in history ,, and nothing has improved.
The fact is the Senate chooses to NOT TRY to pass a budget,, one of the Libs above said they had passed several budgets or we would have defaulted,, which shows how stupid the Liberals are,, the only thing the Senate voted for was increasing the National Debt,, they have never voted for a budget nor passed a budget under Harry Reid..
The Liberals try to smear the Repubicans by asking where the jobs are ? The Senate is required to respond to House Bills,, and they did that recently for the Highway Bill,, and a bill was passed.
The Liberals can bury their head in the sand,, but Paul Ryan is correct when he says we face the " Most Predictable Crisis Ever " by continuing with Obama's agenda. The Fed, The CBO - both controlled by Obama,, but more importantly ,,, The Bi Partisan Commission which Obama set up ,, all 3 of those groups said that spending must be reduced, Entitlements must be addressed and Revenue must be increased.. And Obama has ignored ever single proposal by the Bi Partisan Commission ,, the one group that has done really good work ,,, a Bi Partisan proposal... Many leading Democrats and Republicans backed those recommendations.. and that is where the truth lies,,
The Liberal PRogressives have taken over the Democratic Party,, and the outcome of this is very poor for Democrats,, Democrats will pick up 10 seats in the House,, which leaves the House in Republican control,, but Democrats will lose at least 7 Seats in the Senate ,, giving Republicans control of the Senate,, and you will see a budget passed by the House and the Senate for sure,, !
What can Obama possibly run on ? Stimulus ? Obama CAre ? Dodd Frank Bill ? Green Jobs ? ( a total of 3,000 jobs for the billions and billions spent ? ) , His leadership ? His pulling this country together ?
The fact is our country has never, ever been so UN Unified ever ! Obama promotes race and Class Warfare and hatred against every single part of Private Industry ,, which just happens to be who employs people. Obama is a disgrace and is incompetent ,, what would the Media have said if George Bush was caught whispering the smut Obama shared with the President of Russia,, or with Sarkozy of France when he was slamming Netinyahu,, of Israel,, --- or telling Republicans to shut up and ride in the back of the Bus ? How totally unclassy and leaderless Obama is,, even Democrats are now shunning this idiot.
But those that believe in Obama have been dumb downed for so long they now actually believe all this class warfare crap, anti Oil, anti Banks, Anti Insurance Cos,, Anti Wall Street, Class Warfare at it's lowest level..
Obama is going to be blown out in November .
Hi Allen Clown!! Geeese what a loose screw you are. You cannot express yourself without name calling, so we will try a few on you. Nazi fits well. Seditionist does also. Ignorant of all things political. How about a rabble raising jerk. You are certainly a troll of Texan quality. I am guessing that you are 5'3" and weigh 275 lbs. You are bald, single, gay, and you have bad breath. Right on am I not?
Your reservation at the back of the bus is waiting for your stinky butt.
Yep. Screw the seniors of this country, preserve tax subsidies for the oil companys. Typical repub plan. And you might want to check the election polls Alan.
The Republican plan to balance the budget includes drastically cutting taxes of the rich, again. Yeah, that will work. I for one hope that they get their way. I've got my eye on a new Ferrari, a vacation on the French Riviera, and a new yacht to sail the Caribbean with. No one says that I have to spend my tax savings in the U.S. And for it all, I can thank the stupid, ignorant voters who keep electing those Republicans. Suckers!!
Pay Attention, the GOP has SOLD OUT! To all of you "middle class" Republicans, please pay attention to where your party is going because they don't plan on taking you with them. Unless you own an oil company or United Health Care they don't have any intention of bringing you to the promised land with them. You will be left by the side of the road sooner than you can possibly imagine. There will be nothing left to trickle down upon your misguided soul. The Koch Brothers will be completely in charge with Paul Ryan and friends sucking every dime from their considerable teets. If we're all real lucky they'll let us drink from a polluted river or stream near the tent city by their fortress. We can sit and reminisce about the good old days when the EPA made sure we had clean water. Of course there will be the weekly hand outs of pink slime and their discarded scraps so it want be completely unbearable. Those of us that get really lucky might get to work in one of their factories. It probably won't pay much since minimum wage will be long gone. The rest of us can take comfort in knowing that mandatory military service does provide the only available health care option and after your 6th tour of duty you get 2 weeks vacation and a donation in your name to the super pac of their choice. Enjoy what's left of the greatest Nation on Earth because soon it will all be a distant image in the rear view mirror of fossil fuel burning Koch mobile.
you marxist dems already destroyed this country and have been doing so for a 100 years.
Only a Nazi preacher talks the way you do. May Lucifer have mercy on your soul. This is a fat guy who fell of a duce n a half, broke his back and is now on the public dole. Ask him! I have some of his rants saved. Seditionist creep from the underworld
Keep it up Larry! You're the poster child for the right wing lunatics buddy.
I'd rather be known as a right wing "lunatic" fighting to preserve liberty than a bunch of mindless marxist liberals who want everyone enslaved to govt.
And David- I've never taken a penny of "public dole". that's why I own my own businesses. I'm not a parasite like liberals.
They can't see it, they listen to brainwashers like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage on radio and Hannity and Carl Rove on TV
I own my own business, am hiring this spring as business is getting better, and am also a liberal. Just to show you how stupid you are Larry. Oh and we also provide expensive health insurance that you refuse to buy.
Larry Robinson-1323081
Really? YHaven't taken a dime of government money?
So, no tax write offs? No taking advantage of corporate subsidies? You just up and pay your taxes without any write offs what so ever?
Yeah, I bet.
You get your welfare in other ways, be honest.
typical convoluted liberal "thinking". Keeping more of MY OWN MONEY is not taking a dime of govt money. IT'S NOT THEIRS.
I've never taken corporate subsidy; I'm against all subsidies, corporate, agricultural, and for individuals.
James Madison 1792 Essay on Property
-- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
Whoah, there you go bringing up dead people.
So, you are telling me that tax write offs is just keeping your money?
Is that like Mitt paying 15% taxes while secretaries pay 35%???
Your in a tax bracket. If you are supposed to pay 25% in taxes and you pay less, guess what?
You're taking from Ceasar what is Ceasar's.
Yeah, thats right, let that sink in...
bosslimo
nothing but lib nonsense.
One of my businesses is tax preparation. Unless a secretary is making over 750k per year, they aren't paying 25%
Who writes the tax laws? Congress
And I'll repeat for you- IT'S MY MONEY NOT THE GOVT'S.
And like most liberals you show your hatred of the men who gave us this country and our constitution
Why don't you spend some time on something practical ?
Why spend time on such nonsense ? unreasonable to start..... so why 'vote' ?
Just shut up with the nonsense ... and get down to business. The "Business" is the US people ... not your &*^&** re-election. Make some **%#$( decisions that are reelectic rather than on your lobbyists latest call. Just use some common sense guys.... then this would not even have been called for a vote.
I pray our congress will start thinking about something other than self - preservation, but understand....
not likley to happen. !!
There goes Ryan touting his mouth off about how Obama has created this avalanche of spending in the last 3 years, never mind the Bush depression that has been going on since 2007, 2 Republican wars at +2 trillion while we have tax breaks going on for over 10 years, tax breaks are suppose to solve everything???so basically you have two wars that went unfunded, sure kept us out of the Bush depression.There Ryan goes back to easing up on defense budget but lets stick it up the ass of entitlements. "Unspecified loopholes" my ass, probably to the oil and gas sector which Ryan's family has oil and gas leases, if I've read correctly will make his family rich and richer. And there you have the "rising star" of modern day Republicanism and his modern day Reagantonian rhetoric in full force. Put him on the Hannity show so I can start shoveling the dung coming out of their mouths.
The Republican Path to Poverty is nothing more than a self serving "Protect the rich and screw the rest of the country" pile of tripe that we have come to expect from these out of touch, let them eat cake, oligharchs
Rep. Paul Ryan presented a perfectly good budget, but Harry Reid, a.k.a Dingy Harry, in the Senate will likely not even let it come up for a vote. And then we have Obama with the Democrats in tow hollering: "obstructionists, obstructionists" about the Republicans. Who are the real obstructionists? Obama has not managed to present a budget for the longest of time while spending us into oblivion. The national debt hit 15 1/2 TRILLION today and counting and Obama is whistling past the graveyard.
All money issues start in the House, not White House!
''Paul Ryan presented a perfectly good budget..."
Perfectly good for whom? The rich? Because, of course, the top income tax rate will be reduced. Certainly not perfectly good for seniors, whose medicare is being slashed. Yeah, good idea, lets let seniors take the brunt of the cuts; they're easy to not care about. And what the heck are they good for, anyway? Plus, they won't be around long enough to put up much of a fight, so... Ridiculous. Proposals for cuts to medicare or social security are essentially preying on the weakest among us, and are the worst kind of politics. Oh yeah, and education too. Lets cut that; better to keep people less educated and uninformed, that makes them easier to control and easier to keep us rich in power. Plus highways and roads, lets cut that, too. But not the military or defense spending; we need to start another unfunded war here pretty quick, so we should make sure not to cut anything there... Gimme a break. 'Perfectly good' my A$$!
Image that! The House votes for something that has no chance in the Senate. Yoo Hoo!!
I hope Obama has long coat tails! He's gonna need them!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
And look at Obama Plan "..Republicans forced a vote on Obama's budget and it was rejected 414-0"
Anybody but Obama, Reid, and Boehner.