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Subscribe to RSSRepublican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum won Tuesday's primaries in Mississippi and Alabama, and called for conservatives to unite behind his campaign. Meanwhile, frontrunner Mitt Romney won Hawaii's caucuses. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
Updated at 8:02 a.m. ET -- Rick Santorum scored victories in the Mississippi and Alabama primaries on Tuesday, depriving Mitt Romney of a signature win in a conservative stronghold and raising fresh doubts about the viability of Newt Gingrich's campaign.
The former Pennsylvania senator made his case for being the lone, serious Republican challenger to Romney for the remainder of the primary by besting Gingrich in states the former speaker's campaign had previously said were essential to its long-term viability.
However, there were no signs that this race would lose another candidate anytime soon.
“We did it again,” Santorum said to wild applause from supporters in Louisiana in response to projections by NBC News that he would win both Mississippi and Alabama. Romney had hoped to score a victory in Mississippi, proving his ability to win a state that composes part of the heart of the modern GOP. But he appeared to be heading to a third-place finish in both contests, failing to even surpass Gingrich.
A former governor of Massachusetts, Romney acknowledged these contests were an “away game” for a figure like him, marking an effort to set low expectations for how he might finish in the contests.
John David Mercer / AP
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney greets supporters during a campaign stop at the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mobile, Ala.
The Romney campaign was able to pick up delegates in both states, contributing to its march to collect the 1,144 delegates needed to secure the nomination.
"I am pleased that we will be increasing our delegate count in a very substantial way after tonight," Romney said in a written statement. "With the delegates won tonight, we are even closer to the nomination."
His campaign accrued additional delegates in Hawaii. NBC News declared Romney as projected winner of Hawaii's caucuses early Wednesday. He took about 45 percent of the votes in the state. Santorum earned about 25 percent.
NBC's David Gregory and Chuck Todd tell TODAY's Matt Lauer how Rick Santorum's victories in the Alabama and Mississippi primaries will change the GOP race for the White House.
The Associated Press also reported that Romney picked up all six delegates from American Samoa, plus the endorsement of three members of the Republican National Committee.
A total of 107 delegates were up for grabs between Mississippi, Alabama and Hawaii on Tuesday.
An outright victory for Romney would have helped close the door on the primary campaign and begin to pivot to the general election, even if it would have come because of a split in the conservative vote.
'Misrepresenting the truth'
Romney has sought to project an air of inevitability surrounding his campaign nonetheless.
"Sen. Santorum is at the desperate end of his campaign and is trying in some way to boost his prospects and, frankly, misrepresenting the truth is not a good way of doing that," Romney said Tuesday night on CNN.
But Santorum has shown little interest in backing down.
“For someone who thinks this race is inevitable, he spent a while lot of money against me for being inevitable,” Santorum said, making reference to the money spent by a pro-Romney super PAC in the two states. (A super PAC also spent on Santorum’s behalf, but not nearly to the extent of Restore Our Future, the pro-Romney group.)
The ex-senator has begun openly expressing his desire for the Republican campaign to narrow into a one-on-one showdown between him and Romney. Santorum also sharpened his attacks against Romney, going after Romney's record in the private sector -- questions about which, just two months ago, Santorum had effectively declared off-limits.
But Santorum still faces a challenge in finding a way to ease Gingrich from the race. Exit poll data in Mississippi found that Santorum won the most conservative voters on Tuesday, while "somewhat conservative" voters split three ways. Similar patterns held true in Alabama. Santorum has argued that, with Gingrich out of the race, he would stand to collect many of the former speaker's voters, and be able to beat Romney.
Santorum sharpens attacks against Romney
Gingrich has been defiant, vowing to fight all the way to the Republican National Convention this summer in Tampa, where his campaign argues he could emerge as the nominee if Romney fails to secure a majority of delegates.
"I emphasize going to Tampa because one of the things tonight proves is that the elite media's effort to prove that Mitt Romney is inevitable just collapsed," Gingrich said in Birmingham. "If you're the front-runner and you keep coming in third, then you're not much of a front-runner."
Newt Gingrich speaks to supporters in Birmingham, Ala. following a loss to Rick Santorum in the Alabama and Mississippi primaries
Early exit poll data had raised the Romney campaign's optimism in Mississippi as the possible beneficiary of a split vote between Santorum and Gingrich, and a slightly better-than-expected performance among key blocs such as evangelical or born-again Christians, as well as less educated or less moneyed voters.
Romney viewed as most electable but not enough to help him break through big in Dixie
His campaign stressed the fact that few political observers had expected Romney to win either contest, but aside from some early strongholds this primary cycle Romney has yet to score the kind of signature win needed to demonstrate that core GOP conservatives have acceded to his nomination.
His campaign still has the inside track to win the delegate battle, though that would threaten a prolonged and costly fight for the nomination at a time when many Republicans have worried about the toll this nominating cycle has taken on the party’s brand.
The race now turns to a primary this weekend in Puerto Rico – to which both Romney and Santorum will travel – and a caucus in Missouri that will determine the state’s allocation of delegates (unlike an earlier, nonbinding primary, which Santorum won).
After Puerto Rico, the next primary is slated for Tuesday in Illinois, where Romney has already blanketed the airwaves. Gingrich’s public schedule also calls for stops in Illinois later this week, though Santorum said Tuesday he considers it an uphill battle to win the popular vote in that state.
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Oh please tell us how you would bring gas down to 2.50 a gallon newtie? When bush invaded Iraq it was anout a buck a gallon...that's what the faux war on terror has done to our economy
Unfortunately the price of oil is set on a global market rife with speculators.
Both Gingrich and Santorum have protested Romney's delegate math, and have released their own tabulations in recent days. But those scenarios tend to rely more on outcomes in which Romney fails to secure the necessary 1,144 delegates — thus leading to a contested convention in August where, presumably, one of Romney's conservative challengers might be able to wrest away the nomination.
They would only be able to do this if the local parties ignored the will of the voters. As I posted on another thread, how exactly is this supposed to work? The "true conservatives" of the party vote to elect Santorum supporters as national delegates disregarding the votes of the majority of Republicans. The part I can't figure out is how Santorum expects the Republicans whose votes they've ignored, to vote for him in the general.
SI
This election day is the gathering of the low information voters. Alabama and Mississippi concentrate the worst qualities of the Republican party as they show higher than national average percentages of people who believe:
and many other lapses in educational preparation and rational thought.
I realize that citizens have the right to vote, but does it make sense that these peoples' vote counts as much as the votes of rational people, yet the Republicans in several states are passing voter ID laws to restrict the access to the polls by reasonable people who do possess the "right" identification.
Mitt "Hold the Cheesy Grits" Romney.
What a phoney!
Obama / Biden 2012
@don97524 - you just clearly stated why I love the South... They Get it!!!
Maybe "Joe Knows Nothing" would be a better screen name. Then you can wear your ignorance as a badge of "honor".
the president, present and past has NO influence on gas prices,, you want lower, then stop the GOP rhetoric on Iran war and make speculators stop their inane speculating!!!!
the president, present and past has NO influence on gas prices
WRONG! When Bush reversed his father's off-shore drilling ban, prices dropped. When congress approved new limited areas of off-shore drilling the prices dropped more.
He who does not learn from history is condemned to repeat it, again, and again, and again . . . . .
Joe KB? I love the South too, and there are many fine and decent people living down there who do not buy into the BS lies about President Obama, mentioned by Don.
Many do, in fact "get it" so to speak, but not in the way you seem to elude. We're not all taking that long walk off a short pier with you.
Bling-Rich is an idiotic pompous ass. No president - Republican or Democrat control the gasoline prices. The price has been increasing due to more production of DIESEL which is EXPORTED since that brings higher revenues for refineries. US has been producing more crude and importing less from Mideast but the increasing export of petroleum products has changed the amount of gasoline that is available for internal consumption. So gas companies are making MORE money on the back of hapless US consumers. God help America.
db: lol, the chance that small actions taken by american presidents to open up some more areas for drilling would immediately affect global oil prices is nil. At one point in bush's presidency gas prices more than doubled, I guess that was a random spike? lol.
He who does not understand economics and that "two things happening at the same time doesn't mean that A caused B" is destined to make silly posts here. :)
@ vermontguy
Agreed
Any President can lower the price of gas to $2.50 a gallon. All that is required is to nationalize oil and set price controls. Nixon did it - so could Gingrich.
That scenario would not be surprising for a Republican. Republicans want to control everything - deciding who can and cannot get married (no separation of church and state) - what medications should be available (coming between a doctor and your birth control) - using the Federal government for their benefit (deny state's rights for a Federally mandated Keystone XL).
When Republicans deny anything - it is guaranteed that they are the worst offenders. Been that way since the Dixiecrats elected Reagan. An 'honest politician' definitely will not have an -R behind their name.
I wish people would grow some balls and stop avoiding the obvious elephant in the room, Romney being a Mormon. This is 100% why he is losing to Santorum in the south and midwest. This is a religious issue in those states. He will lose today's, as well.
The GOP is screwed either way. If Romney wins, he won't have as strong of support because he is Mormon. If Santorum wins, he won't have the support of moderates because he is so hardcore of a Christian (or in safe for the news terms "conservative.")
American Girl-724855 I was trying to pinpoint what it was about Romney, he's seems like a decent sort.
And you hit on it. He's phony. You always wonder if he actually believes the things he says, or that he's just trying ANYTHING to be President. Seeing what sticks.. kind of like a used car salesman (no offense to all the wonderful used car salesmen and women)
I especially don't think he has the intellect to be President. It's not enough to be "book learned", you have to actually be quite bright to do the job. Especially in today's world - with huge events happening globally almost on a daily basis.
I think if Romney did become President (very unlikely), he would quickly learn the it's not all pomp and circumstance, it's a thankless job where there are always people complaining and wanting you to do the opposite to their best interest.
Obama is doing a great job, especially having to deal with the obstructionist GOP (whom would rather throw all of us under the bus just to gain power).
Archie Bunker was a Prophet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osqL-UwH2SU
@Jack Colton -- Almost - but - you are still dodging the religion issue. The Republican choice is between a Mormon (Romney) or a Catholic (Santorum and Gingrich). Santorum attempting to force pagan Catholicism onto Christian America won't play well to 'true' conservatives. Gingrich being a Sunday Catholic won't play well, either.
Why do you think there is still talk of finding a 'true' conservative candidate? The Republican field will have to play up the 'Obama is a Muslim' message to hide their lack of conservative appeal. A protestant Obama would be more acceptable to 'true' conservatives than the Republican candidates.
Nerm
Santorum attempting to force pagan Catholicism onto Christian America won't play well to 'true' conservatives.
First, there are paganism in both Catholicism and Protestantism, and I will tell you that God is still using them both to reach people - i.e. they are BOTH Christian, but with different practices and perspectives.
Second, Santorum isn't trying to force Catholicism on anyone. Catholics stopped that practice several hundred years ago.
Third, Santorum and Gingrich's support IS the conservatives of the party - which also contains the "Christian Right".
@DB Akron -- Yes, Santorum is attempting to force Catholicism onto Christian America - much more so than John Kennedy ever tried to do. Republican congressman hearing testimony from a panel of priests is offensive to a 'true' conservative.
You know nothing about what you speak of.
These 4 are auditioning for that new series: Desperate Wingnuts
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What difference does it make? These group of dummies can't beat the dummy that we have in the White House now .....
Why should any other country want to try and take us down? We're doing a great job of ruining our country from the top down, pitiful .......
Hey Don97524
People that can get out and do some research shouldnt vote but people that drink party talking points kool aid and need the Rachel Maddows of the world to tell them how to think, sould ???? HAHAHAHAHAHH
Obamabot voters will be made up of robots like yourself and inbreeds that still think Obama's going to take from the rich, anyone making over 50k, and give them some.
The few libs that have two neurons firing realized a long time ago that BO is just another war mongering puppet under the control of Sorros and the UN. They will sit at home instead of voting for the the white Omama, Romney
Don, your an idiot, in fact i think your vote shouldn't count at all.
Christ, Mitt. It's CHEESE GRITS !! Not "cheesY grits" !!
Mitt must be watching too many episodes of South Park and confusing them with "cheesy poofs".
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Rick.... by repealing all taxes on gasoline of course.
Now if he'd cut in half all Congressional salaries and benefits I might consider Old Newt a contender. Unfortunately promising to do something is a lot easier than actually getting it done.
A vote for Obama or Romney is a vote for satan. Simple. Vote for "none of the above" and pick a real man for the job that isn't a "catholic",nor a "mormon", nor a "false witness" ,"fake" "christian" like Obama is. Simple. :)
Our Republic is a farce, brought on by puppets of the NWO. Ever wonder what ESTABLISHMENT really means?
I thought of a new name for the Republican Primaries, but I realized that it was already taken.
The Biggest Loser.
Big D, Worm Meat
Are you actually defending those who believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States and is a not a citizen? Do you actually defend those who believe he is not a Christian, but is instead a Muslim? Those positions have been proven false many times and only the willfully ignorant cling to those bigoted lies. As you know, the only way we know anyone's religion is by their own testimony and Mr. Obama has clearly declared that he is a Christian. What religion are you and how do we know you are not lying?
Do you actually believe that your President who bailed out General Motors is a socialist? If so, why is General Motors not owned by the workers? General Motors is owned by the stockholders, as it has been for a century, and anyone who believes that the bailout was the action of a socialist is willfully foolish.
Anyone who believes in creationism is advocating medieval religious superstition that is backed by absolutely no evidence. It would make as much sense to believe in the use of leaches and drilling holes in the skull as medical treatment as it would to believe in creationism.
Anyone who buys the "Civil War was fought over states rights" nonsense is willfully ignorant. Continue to fly your confederate flag and identify yourself for what you are.
Ron Paul is our last hope.
Wow, only 5% for Ron Paul so far. Alabama is proving itself to be one of the most neoconservative states in the union. Dumb rednecks.
plcfortruth
How backward must you be to classify these people as "satan"? If a man states that he is a Christian who in the Hell are you to doubt that he is what he says he is. Barack Obama may be more Christian that a lot of the fundamentalist lunatics who claim he is Muslim because Mr. Obama chose his religion as an adult. His was a rational decision whereas most other Christians adopted their religion by being brainwashed by their parents, including threats that they would go to Hell, be denied the "kingdom of heaven" and shunned by their family if they did not believe.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining
a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which
their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for
their own purpose." --- Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813
Hope and Change...
We hope you never change because that will insure the demise of your extremist ideology.
Yep going well thanks for asking.
"Experience witnesses that Churches, Temples, and houses of worship , instead of
maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation.
During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been
on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and
indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both,
superstition, bigotry and persecution." --- James Madison,
Congratulations Rick !
You're now one step closer to being defeated by Obama!
From the looks so far AL. and MS. both look like a three way tie. With each of the three candidates getting one third of the delegates give or take one or two and Paul getting none. Santorum and Gingrich lose with that kind of math. Romney has a large lead and if they continue to draw until they get to RI, CT, NY, UT and CA. Romney will pull away in those states. If Santorum can't kick butt in PA. he's toast.
"Your an idiot"—what an ironic statement. You might as well say, "Me be smart."
Don, you just contradicted yourself big time. You say that the south is made up of people who believe in "creationism or evolution" (in a negative way) and then turn right around and defend Obama's Christianity. So are you saying Obama's a DA for believing in creationism?
don97524
The points you make are why I have been advocating for a return to literacy tests. Too many uninformed, wrongly informed, or just plain stupid people out there.
@Fights
Obama is a Christian that believes in solid science. You might try getting a college education from a real university. You might then be able to resolve some of those more difficult concepts.
@don97524 -- A 'true' conservative understands that Satan will use the words of God to entrap the unwary. Satan will loudly proclaim his Godliness to attract the ignorant to follow him.
A person that truly believes in the God of the Bible will speak humbly of their belief and will show their faith through their everyday life. A Christian is not defined by what they say - they are defined by how they live their life.
Using religion as a wedge issue to promote oneself and deride others is exactly how Satan convinces people to forsake the teachings of the Christian God and follow Satan's religion of hate.
DB Akron
the president, present and past has NO influence on gas prices
WRONG! When Bush reversed his father's off-shore drilling ban, prices dropped. When congress approved new limited areas of off-shore drilling the prices dropped more.
He who does not learn from history is condemned to repeat it, again, and again, and again
db,
I commend you. You have ONE sentence in your post that is correct....the last one. The price of gas didn't drop on either of your stated occasions. One of the fallacies of the Alaskan pipeline, like your comments, is gas would go down if it was built. Didn't happen, as it didn't happen with bush.
I have a strong suspicion you believe the Keystone pipeline will make the price drop and we will be less dependent on Middle East oil. Again a fallacy. It is costing the oil companies more and more money to get to the oil left in the earth. As the world's population continues to grow (an estimated 3 billion more folks on the face of this planet by 2050) the demand for oil will continue to grow along with the price. Whether you agree or not it is time to start serious looks at alternative fuels.
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DunkinH
Wow, only 5% for Ron Paul so far. Alabama is proving itself to be one of the most neoconservative states in the union. Dumb rednecks.
===I was stationed at Ft Rucker, in the extreme SE corner of Alabama. While I may not agree with their politics and religion I will say this: most of the folks I knew there were some of the nicest folks I've ever met. I have lived in fourteen states, from Florida to Alaska, and have met/seen many who do not measure up to those I knew in Alabama.
Navy Unpatriot, you liberals are so typical, you love to attack others through name-calling and degradation when you have no argument. I would say its you who needs an education. And the argument still stands. Does Obama believe in creationism or not? I believe in the God of Creation who created through what we know as Science, so what does that make me? I'm still a Creationist, that fact does not change.
The factors that made literacy tests so bad just don't seem to an issue anymore. I'm interested in taking another look at it. While I can only imagine the outcry that would cause, I have a much clearer idea of where the outcry would come from.
Sorry Mitt, but we're after Super Tuesday. You can't be "inevitable" and lowering expectations in two states at the same time. Front runners don't finish third in back to back primaries after Super Tuesday. Your party doesn't want you.
RedneckTorum wins Alabama.
Gee. I wonder why?
Bible thumping bigot wins in the state filled wo many people that think that Obama's a muslim/Kenyan coming to take their money, guns, and religion and turn them into latte drinking, pansies.
Scared by their own shadows.
Lol.
Have nice day.
shut your yap, you'll bow down to GOD one day even if you don't want to. Just because you don't believe in Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Hope its not too late for you. One more thing, why are you atheists so danged MEAN and intolerant? I believe its because you have no use for a moral compass so you just carry your hatred on your sleeve.
The software that is used to tally votes in U.S. elections is owned and operated by Goldman Sachs former executives Tim Bunting, Mark Evans.
It seems that Balderton is a venture capital company which made a significant investment in Syctl, a Spanish corporation which is a leader in secure electronic voting technologies. Balderton is operated by Tim Bunting and Mark Evans, both Goldman Sachs veterans. Tim Bunting was an 18 year veteran of Goldman Sachs and in 2004, he was promoted to vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs. Tim Bunting was one of Goldman Sachs' most senior European executives.
Additionally, Rob Moffat, who is also an executive with Balderton, was a former Bain Capital executive for five years.
Goldman Sachs Mitt Romney's biggest campaign contributor.
Knowing that former Goldman Sachs veterans have an ownership interest in the very software that tabulates votes in the United States is very concerning!
Waaha,ha,ha,hooo,hahaha,um ah, oooh. Republicans! I say therah republicans! Romney's bucket ain't got no bottom in hit. Santorum's is rusty and He's wearing his'un on his heiad. The old rich dunce in Vegas repo'ed Newts. Ron Pauls mules run away and tore up his wagon. Whatchew gonna do now? There's water in the spring, but nobody with anything fit to tote hit with. I say! Ya,ll therah! Yea' ah. Ya'll republicans! Whatchew gonna do now!?
Fights
Creationism is taught at the UW. The course is called Mythology 201.
I really don't understand stupid
If you vote for a Dumb-ass...what does that say about you
I do understand y'all don't have many (good) choices
So, what does your vote for Obama say about you big mac. Yep, you're the dumb donkey (as in the Dumborat icon). The donkey or ass, Equus africanus asinus, is a domesticated member of the Equidae or Dumborat family.
Fights
Belief in creationism is not a necessary requirement for being a Christian. Only fundamentalist Christians require belief in creationism. Mr. Obama, like most Christians, is not a fundamentalist.
And the current GOP choice is:
2.) Mr. Jesus Freak.
Hey buddy, can you spare a rosary?
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@Fights: "shut your yap, you'll bow down to GOD one day even if you don't want to. Just because you don't believe in Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Hope its not too late for you. One more thing, why are you atheists so danged MEAN and intolerant? I believe its because you have no use for a moral compass so you just carry your hatred on your sleeve."
I sincerely believe that when God shows up he will want his disciples to care enough about him to use spell check.
Great job, Santorum!!!! My wife is really looking forward to feeling your soft hands inside her uterus.
OK, how many of you GOP leptons knew Sanitation's family are a bunch of RED communists? What! Faux didn't tell you this? LOOK IT UP!
vermontguy---lol, the chance that small actions taken by american presidents to open up some more areas for drilling would immediately affect global oil prices is nil
how about the algae plan lol
rick--When bush invaded Iraq it was anout a buck a gallon...that's what the faux war on terror has done to our economy
you have mistaken the wrong decade at that price
Derek-908696 (#1.49)
The most ignored part of this election is actually the voting machines and who controls them. The voting machines that tabulate the votes are not regulated by any government agency and the companies who manufacture them have not cooperated with any effort to have any oversight on the voting process itself by any branch of government.
If that's not the ultimate topper but the fact that 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. Furthermore the the vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. Add along to this the chairman and CEO of Diebold was a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
By the way, none of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio in 2003.
As far fetched as this may seem to some but in mid-January there was a leak of what's happening currently within the Republican party nominees for the Presidency. That not any of this current rogues gallery of puppets will receive enough delegates resulting in a deadlocked convention.This will allow Jeb Bush to be nominated as a “consensus candidate” and thus his parties leader. The rest of the election will be a rigged affair in which Jeb Bush will win the Presidency.
If all of these events continue to happen then you will know that this Presidential election and its' outcome is determined by the elites, not the citizens themselves. The death of the Constitution and Democracy is then a certainty, as much as the majority of people being disenfranchised by a political system that doesn't include them.
Surprise Surprise, the GOP is going full bigot. Never go full Bigot!!
Spoiler Gingrich needs to get out of the way.
Pretty stupid logic there, Molly. Just because you believe jesus is god doesn't mean that the Muslims aren't right and you wrong...There is just as good as yours, genius. And so is that of people who believe in fairies and the dragons and everything else. Can you prove them wrong? How 'bout you shut YOUR yap.
You probably REALLY want to shut your yap now, Molly, considering that christians are some of the most intolerant people in the country. Do we need to ramble off a grocery list of all of the things you fundi's have done to your fellow human beings here in the US over the last 200 years?
"Slavery" is an ugly word and you christians used your bible to justify it back in the day along with whipping, thumb screws, raping of slaves, etc. Today you use it to keep women in their place, shoot abortion doctors and have your angry mobs of militant jesus freaks hold signs at military funerals saying "Your son is burning in hell!".
Based on history it is YOU freaks that are lacking a moral compass mainly because your idea of god absolves you of having one or even having a rational mind. If there were a hell it would be here and it would be here because of the insane, hateful behavior of those who believe in the something with as much evidence of existence as the easter bunny.
Keep your FAITH out of my government, out of my bedroom, out of text books on SCIENCE (for cryin out loud), and out of people's relationships.
Liberal comments about a Republican primary are about as wonderful as a fart in an elevator !
Expect the venom from the lefties to flow early, to flow often and to be of a truly toxic quality !!
They will follow Obama over the cliff of U.S. bankruptcy forever praising an incompetent President who has yet to offer an semblance of a reasonable budget proposal to the U.S. Congress. Obama is a financial twit.
Hey Paul - Mitt took more delegates yesterday than anyone. But unfortunately the level of awareness in these posts are miniscule. If you would read past a slanted headline you'd know what's really going on. I'm amazed at the massively uninformed statements throughout this thread.
CLASS WARFARE GOP STYLE
Based on exit polling if you are dumb, poor and evangelical, you voted for Santorum.
If you are rich, educated and religiously tolerant, you voted for Romney.
Class warfare, ala' GOP.
Obama/Biden 2012
Gingblich, Cantorum. Mormon boy remind of the 3 stooges. whoop,whoop,whoop LOL. What a bunch of clowns.
If you look at even a short segment of history who may be shocked to see it's actually you upstanding & moral Christians who have been trying to make one group or another a second class citizen. Slavery, blacks & segregation, women, gays, etc. The list goes on and on. With Christianity's track record I wouldn't be casting that first stone!
Rickie is as "Christian" as I am "Neo-con" ... which is to say, "not in the f*cking slightest."
When given the choice between Fat Cat, Santa's Little Helper, Moon Base, or Ass Juice, you all went with Ass Juice.
Really???
When one clicks on the little exclamation point, it brings up a list to vote to collapse a person's post. It lists "no value," "inflammatory," and "advertising." Why do we not have a choice of "batsh!t crazy!"
@falconer33 -- You are 1000 pct wrong in your statement. The fight for abolition was led by churches across the country - including in the south. The battle for women's rights were also engaged by Christian churches and Christian beliefs. Civil rights was promoted by a humble black minister.
You have been mislead by loud mouthed Bible thumpers. Shouting the words in the bible does not make a Christian. Wearing robes and a collar does not make a Christian. Being applauded by large flocks of followers does not make a Christian. Receiving large offerings and donations does not make a Christian. No human being on this planet can make you a Christian. There is one way and only one way to become a Christian.
Your ignorance only means you do not understand Christianity. Your laziness means you will only be a victim of fakes who claim to be Christians and they will use their false claims to victimize you.
Ah yes, the classic "their not REAL CHRISTIAN (tm)" response. How lucky you are that if anyone calls out the hippocracy of your faith you can use the "their not REAL CHRISTIANS (tm) card. Fail.
Why is it REAL CHRISTIAN (TM) like make personal attacks in their posts? Yes Nerm, you are a "REAL CHRISTIAN (tm)". LOL!
Sorry, jon @1.69 .... but the analogy to the three stooges was my creation and it's "Harry, Bo and Squirrelly" .... the latter also being known as "botox Nancy". "You'll have to pass the bill to see what's in it" will go down in infamy as a sign of total Democratic arrogance.
I can accept that some people have unusual religious beliefs, but what I can't understand is their belief that they are Christians. Do they not understand that the claim to be Christian is quite simple. They have to believe in the teachings of Jesus the Nazerene.I don't know which book on Religion that they studied,but it isn't one that I ever saw or even heard of. Jim 1455/ It is amusing that you comment on the venom from we Liberals,but I can see that you mean From you people on the far right. If the ordinary citizens of this country want economic justice, they will not receive it from the puppets of the 1%ers .There are,of course, Republican representatives who truly represent their constituents,but their majority,at this time, are pandering to the T.P's, and their right wing cohorts.
Plc...,
What proof do you have that Obama is a fake Christian? If you believe the offense for such is enternal damnation, a pretty big deal, then I'm sure you would not want to bandy about the claim. So again, please tell us why you think President Obama is not a true Christian.
don---
take notice who here are the ones always mouthing about religion and racism. realize no one really gives a rats a-- but you and your partners..... as for religion and womens right to bc...is moot. maybe ya'll haven't heard but obama says it's covered! so move on...worry about obama care because it's going to be a disaster for the economy and all of us. you can't fix religion all we care about is getting this president out before anymore pollicies are infringed on us.
...."shut your yap, you'll bow down to GOD one day even if you don't want to. Just because you don't believe in Him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Hope its not too late for you. One more thing, why are you atheists so danged MEAN and intolerant? I believe its because you have no use for a moral compass so you just carry your hatred on your sleeve"...
Oh, yeah? Prove it.
Just because YOU think he exists, doesn't mean he does. One more thing, I'm an Agnostic. But why should I bother explaing what that means to someone who doesn't have a clue that his ilk are the ones that are "mean and intolerant." The very concept of the phrases "mean" and "intolerant" appear to be new to you. Let me help you out. You're using them incorrectly.
I have an extremely accurate moral compass. It tells me to be intolerant of intolerant bigots and religious supremacists. I feel pretty good about that.
Are you even aware that your religious fantasy blatently dictates that those who don't follow it are evil and will roasted in flames forever? How's that for mean intolerance. What - you haven't read your own stupid handbook?
But, if projecting your idiotic character on others makes you feel normal, you go right ahead and enjoy that fantasy.
Mean time, I'll wait for the day when the Great Pumpkin sits in judgement of me.
You people arre like the dude that yells obscenities out the car window at women, then get confused at why they tell you to go F yourself. Jeeeze.
Have a nice day.
Sarah.
"Ass juice." Funny stuff, ha ha.
Thanks for that, lol.
THE REPUBLICAN LEGACY:
States with highest percentage of residents living in poverty:
Mississippi 23.1 percent (Republican)
Arizona 21.2 percent (Republican)
New Mexico 19.3 percent (Democrat)
Arkansas 18.9 percent (Republican)
Georgia 18.4 percent (Republican)
District of Columbia 17.9 percent (Democrat)
Texas 17.3 percent (Republican)
Kentucky 17 percent (Republican)
Alabama 16.6 percent (Republican)
Source: U.S. Census Bureau
When looked at in more detail, such as by Congressional district, these stats carry little weight. With the exception of DC, most listed are states with varying regional demographics.
It's common knowledge that Mississippi is one of 3 Southern Welfare States that receive much more "free" overnment taxpayer money than their entire state pays in taxes, and not only do they have one of the highest poverty rates, they also are the least educated in the country ranking 50th, and they have the most overweight people in the country.
and yet they still follow the pied piper of hamelin(GOP) to lead them to destruction
What are you using to base a Republican state? Arkansas, for instance has a Democrat Gov and both houses controlled by Democrats.
if they don't like obama they will call it a Republican state.
looks like the whole country might be a Republican state.
Skup
I was wondering the same thing. The Mississippi House of Representatives have 73 Democrats and 49 Republicans.
You also have to remember that a lot of southerners don't vote based on economics or foreign policy, but rather they vote for a person based on (and get this) Religious beliefs. Not too shocking. I grew up in North Mississippi. Many of my ex co workers and just people I knew wouldn't vote for Obama because he's pro-abortion. Not to mention all the "he might be a Muslim" talk going around at the time.
These stats mean nothing. Democrats and Republicans both are silly thinking they are better than each other.
Can you say Michigan?
I heard it with my own two ears: In October 2008 just before the election, Obama concluded a sentence he was speaking to George Stephanopoulos, with "...my Muslim faith." Steph stepped in to correct him, saying, "You mean your Christian faith."
Remember this: A political gaffe is when you are caught off-guard telling the truth.
@The Unit Toad:
So what if he is Muslim (which I'm not saying he is)? Isn't freedom of religion within the First Amendment? Explain to me how a non-Christian president is "un-American".
Actually MS is still mostly registered Dems. They started voting Repub in Pres elections, when Reagan ran in 1980. Before that REpub was as dirty word.
Even though the average salary is way down, there is lots of land owners and self sustaining farmers
I think you left out La which is at the very bottom of povery scale. Dems all the way
If you compare those states with those that get back more in federal spending then they contribute in federal income taxes you will find a high correlation. To oversimplify, blue states are subsidizing red states.
The south voted democrat until Nixon got their vote. His southern strategy broke that. Remember George Wallace, Strom Thurmon, and all the segregationist politicians were Democrats. The southern whites vote to the right it is never about party with them. Only African Americans vote Democrat in large numbers in the south since FDR. That explains why the Governors, State Senate and State Houses may have Democratic majorities or a large amount of Democrats. Southern whites vote for 1. Religion 2. Southern 3. Fiscal Conservative 4. Anti Northern.
Yes, that was excessively oversimplified, oneiron.
You must accept people for who they are...but if stupid elects a president...that is different (If you voted for Bush the second time...That would be you)
I didn't vote for Obama...or any other dumb-ass (we need leaders...not politicians)
If anyone of the gop candidates win the presidency I'm going to be moving to another country. If Santorum or Gingrich win, I'm going to leave most of my things behind and just go. If Romney wins I will move before the inauguration. No matter which repube wins I will move, except for maybe R. Paul, I might s tick around for him. Other than him I will have to leave. If its not a landslide democratic ticket that wins in every election of every office in the country then this country is in for more of the same. Its time to get the "NO" people out of office and put the yes people in. Get people in office that will get the country back on its feet again. If its a straight democratic ticket that wins, this country will be dancing again in 18 months. Look what President Obama is doing on his own, without the help of the "NO" congress and senate. Get Bohnner and Can't,or out and put people in office that are going to work for the people and no more racist, women hating gop's every again. If Dems take it all, I guarentee in 18 months this country will be rockin again like when Bill Clinton was in office. Newt shut the government down when Clinton was president, because he wanted to get rid of medicare and medicaid, Ricky wants to know how much sex your having and if your wearing party balloons when you do. Romney don't know what he wants but if you put him on the spot, he'll agree with anything. Straight dem in 2012. Its the only way to go.
big mac,
You voted just like Senator Obama...present...which effects nothing. I threw my vote away once on Ross Perot so I voted present too.
And the current GOP choice is:
2.) Mr. Jesus Freak.
Hey buddy, can you spare a rosary?
.
Looking more and more like no GOP canadate will have enough delegates when they reach convention. Wouldn't it be something if Romney entered with the most and DOESN'T walk out with the nomination?
Anyway, I suspect a LOT of democrats are doing EXACTLY what Republicans did last time around, and keeping Santorum in the race [in states where they can vote in GOP primaries; someone explain how that makes sense again?]. Most Dems view Santorum as an easy victory, though even Romney is so bruised now its unlikey Obama can loose barring a major economic slowdown.
So Just What r These Politicians winning anyway. they all take our hard earned money from us n tell us that they r gonna have to make cuts in ss health care eyc. because the r runnin out of money, no wonder i mean if i spent money like them well, just couldnt do it. they all have nice houses, nice cars n sometimes a second house, take vacations n us low income people cant even get a break.
Unless Obama can show some major improvement in the economy(not jobs up one day and down the next) his chances for election are as good as Santorum/Romney. Too many people don't want to take the chance on the President getting another 4 year term, because afterall, he was at best mediocre and spent the majority of his time going back on his promises. Not too mention catering to the MiddleEast and to China.
WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY? Maybe it would have been at 7 AM, but at 1AM in the morning it just shows how stupid you sound!
...and the war on religion will be the demise of the anti-biblical Obama.
By forcing a law on Feb. 10 to mandate birth control to those of religious institutions. You can't have it both ways. You can't say "freedom of religion" and then force your ideals on someone through laws without having the people vote on it. It is one of the reasons, he did violate the first amendment for all those Catholic institutions.
Please don't let those damn hypocrite thumpers win. They have already taken away waaaay too many of our RIGHTS and freedoms as it is with their paranoia and fearful cowardice (airport security...ect) (what a sick joke that turned out to be). Vote for Ron Paul and free the weed!!!
Man made booze.
God made pot.
Who do you trust?
Man or God?
If man Bring back prohibition, if God unconditionally legalize Marijuana.
God made
I left out alcohol --- if man bring back alcohol prohibition
Doobie McStoned? WTF???
F-uck Santorum !
Roger, you need to be reported. I'd much rather have Santorum than any other candidate out there.
I'm sorry. I meant to say... F-uck Rick Santorum.
hey Callie Ann go to Hell!
@Graham
Callie Ann, or anyone one else for that matter, CAN NOT "go to Hell" because hell is an imaginary place in a fairy tale. Callie Ann can do all sorts of other things, such as stick her head in the toilet, or eat $hit, or f#$k-off, or shove a crucifix up her a$$, but she can not go to Hell...
I'm hoping that either Gingrinch or Ron Paul withdraws and rolls his delegates to Santorum, and then he and Romney waste a whole bunch of dough fighting each other all the way to the Republican convention, and then my guy along with control of both the House and Senate should be a shoe-in and the Obama-haters can get back to what they do best.........whining!!!
Hey Roger...
I'll f#$k him (although I'll bet everything I have that I wouldn't the first to introduce him to the "members" club) and send the video to Rush because he seems to like that sort of thing. Do you think Little Ricky likes it all lubed up, or raw and nasty? I'm betting raw...with a little spanking just for fun...
For all of you out there that give a F about our country: You need to wake up.
The Republicans are playing this game again: They are appealing to the uneducated masses and the people that are afraid of hell. Do you think that Obama has the election in his pocket? Wrong!
COUNT THE COMMENTS IN THIS VINE FROM BIBLE THUMPERS AND YOU WILL SEE.
You are underestimating the power of Santorum. If you do not go out and vote, we will be the STUPID ones, and he will be laughing all the way to the White House.
PLEASE GO OUT AND VOTE IN ELECTION DAY. Don't let the GOP take us to the dark ages. VOTE DEMOCRAT TO ADVANCE THE COUNTRY INTO THE 21st CENTURY
Rick and his uneducated, obese, religious-delusional followers need to be put in front of firing squads. We would have flying cars and jet packs if it wasn't for these dopes afraid of the magical flying spaghetti monster in the sky. Go die and rot in hell you bigoted, racist agents of satan. Oh and btw Jesus hates all you mentally-retarded Christians.
joe--If anyone of the gop candidates win the presidency I'm going to be moving to another country
bye bye...have a nice trip!
I could at least understand Ross Perot when he ran for president. He was a maverick outsider with decent ideas about the economy. Please note the difference with Rick Santorum. His campaign generally is focused on social issues and religious beliefs. He recognizes no separation between church and state. His campaign is devoid of specifics about the issues that mean the most to America.
As a Conservative Independent I find the South a bunch of idiots who dont make sense. The polls they took was the highest percent who want someone who can beat Obama and yet they voted for Santorum which Santorum and Newt HAVE NO CHANCE of beating Obama so why are the voting the opposite? I find the Evangelicles bigots against the Mormon religion. The Mormon religion is just as Christian as the Jewish or Baptist, or Luthern and so forth. Just because the Mormon religion has a different way doesnt make them less Christian. Mr. Pork (RICK) and Newt are Washington insiders, so I ask you southern Idiots why would you keep voting the same old garbage back into power when they got this country in the mess we are at? Dumb southern voters who contradict what they want or say.!!!!!!
Larry, "The Republican Disaster!"
It is ironic that the Red states that you mentioned have high poverty levels and their citizens are geographically the least educated people in America. These economically depressed Republican states masochistically repeatedly vote for "Conservatism Without Compassion." These politically backwards GOP states cannot adequately support their infrastructure or citizens. Glaringly, it is the "flaming liberal" Blue states whose tax-payer dollars disproportionately subsidizes the financial and screaming burdens of the South.
Maybe the South should now be allowed to suceed from the Union - and have Santorum as their President.
This geographically region would then see staggering hardships that many of us only see in history books.
American Girl,
On a visit to the South, I saw so many overweight and obese people than I could have imagined.
Ridiculously, the great majority of these overweight citizens were in the parking lots of Supermarkets...heading into these stores for more food!
This election so far is all about the top ten percent and wanting to be in the Whitehouse..No mention of the struggling working America and problem solving..And they call themselves Christians.
I find the hypocrisy of crying "Freedom of Religion" and then voting for a card carrying Dominionist a bit hard to fathom. The persecution complex from the majority religion in this country would be hilarious, if it wasn't so dangerous.
Freedom of Religion does not only include Christianity.

Just as Christian as Jewish people? =P
BLACK REPUBLICANS-THE
UNTOLD STORY
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Carter G. Woodson
Frederick Douglass
Mary McLeod Bethune
Condoleezza Rice
Jennifer Carroll
Tim Scott
Clarence Thomas
Michael S. Steele
Michael L. Williams
Alveda C. King
J. Kenneth Blackwell
J.C. Watts Jr
Don King
Jennette B. Bradley
Jackie Robinson
Lynn Swann
Sammy Davis Jr
Edward William Brooke, III
William Thaddeus Coleman, Jr.
Allen West
Herman Cain
Booker T. Washington
A. Philip Randolph
Harriet Tubman
Sojourner Truth
George Washington Carver
Hiram Rhodes Revels
Blanche Bruce
Ida B. Wells
Mary Terrell
Thomas Sowell
Ron Paul 2012! Yup, Ronnie. All the way. Only brain in the bunch. Only sanity on the candidate stage. Running or seated, only person making any sense because he's correct across the board. Calling him names won't change that. Obama is not the answer to America's problems - he creates more division with each word he spouts. Santorum would continue Obama government overreach in mandating social behavior, in the opposite direction. Both Obama and Santorum mandates are unlawful. A president has no right to run your life, tell you what you must accept, demand that you pay for things you disagree with, force you to accept their views. Party pawns speak ideologies, not national interest. Party pawns speak to force over the other party, which makes neither acceptable, because force creates division and drives it. We are debating whose rights get taken away, instead of everyone's rights being restored and preserved. Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul. No war in Iran. No more war in Afghanistan. Peace. Liberty. Sound Money. Start thinking what's best for the country and not what's best for the agenda you want to shove down everyone's throats.
@Irespond
You wrote:
As opposed to Obama playing on the fears that "evil Republicans" will "kill the elderly" and destroy "civil rights" and every other broad brush attack the Democrats are famous for.
Apparently you think that the uneducated should not have a voice in this country, either. Perhaps you wouldn't mind returning to the days when only property owners could vote? What do you think?
Should Obama have the election in his pocket? Given that he has raised a billion dollar war chest I find it interesting that you turned the phrase "in his pocket." If Obama is such a great president then why does he need to raise a billion to foist himself upon us a second term? It is simply because his first term record is so abysmal that he knows he has to deflect - like make Republicans out to be anti women or to run against a Congress. Surely you see that his policies are so pathetic and the economic conditions have not responded to them. If not, then you are blinded by the donkey.
Dishonest Joe,
MLK jr., in his own autobiography, states the he "had always voted a Democratic ticket in the past"
His father was a registered Republican, though.
Remember, this is before the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which collapsed the southern Dixiecrats (segregationists) and caused many of them to move into the Republican Party along with the burgeoning "Southern Strategy". This is when you see an ideological shift, because it was then that the GOP adopted much of the Dixiecrat social ideology, and the former Dixiecrats adopted the GOP fiscal / foreign policy ideology.
So please, spare us the lies and misinformation. Do you know that if you must lie and deceive in order to make a point, that it's possible that your stance is wrong? You should reevaluate your position. The Party of Lincoln died with the Southern Strategy.
Where to begin to educate you larry, states with the most poverty looks close. States with the most illegal immigrants backed by blue states lack of inforcement of law, about the same. STATES WITH THE MOST IDIOTS, BLUE STATES. Point and fact, they put Obamby in office and believe his lies! States like California, Washington, Nevada, New York, Maine, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, and the list goes on. The unemployment there is at the highest mark also. Number of gays there is larger, but the idiots control. I'D MUCH RATHER BE POOR THAN JUST PLAIN STUPID!
Great argument Pat.... "NO YOU ARE" is totally a legitimate form of argument. You clearly established your viewpoint by the phrase "point in fact" and then substantiated your claim of fact by referring to a President that you don't like. Your intellect is immeasurable and your argumentative style reflects that of a sage and erudite master of factual data and information.
///sarc///
@25Walker,
you wrote:
I find it ironic that Democrats declared war on poverty back in the 1960's for all Americans. As a result of the proliferation of their socialist welfare state utopia we have destroyed our country and exactly the same ratio (if not more) of people are in poverty. Why is that, Mr. Math? Anyone? Anyone? Hint draw a histogram. Democrat economic policy is so juvenile, nay infantile, as it assumes that everyone can be above average. A mathematical impossibility!! Surely you are capable of understanding this postulate.
So after 50 years of Liberalism With Best Intentions, we now have multigeneration families born to the government teat, rampant unemployment among the uneducated urban dwelling Blacks, Hispanics and Whites. And what changed? Oh that's right, we bankrupted the United States along the way and we still have rampant poverty and an entitlement culture.
You know why states in the south have poverty rates higher than in the blue states like Illinois? Because a person is classified as living in poverty if they earn less than 11,170 a year in ALL 48 contiguous states. With 2080 work hours in a standard year this must be a part time job at minimum wage.
Do you think you can live on a minimum wage part time job in Chicago? How about Tupelo, MS? Well it costs 28.4% less to live in Tupelo versus Chicago so I'd say the odds are better in Mississippi than your beloved blue state heavy tax, high cost of living Chicago. Do you think that more people in the south would appear to be below the poverty line versus a higher cost of living state? This is a duh moment my friend. In fact:
If you move from Chicago, IL to Tupelo, MS....
Groceries will cost: 20% less
Housing will cost: 47% less
Utilities will cost: 11% more
Transportation will cost: 16% less
Healthcare will cost: 18% less
http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/tools-for-advocates/guides/federal-poverty-guidelines.html
http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/costofliving/costofliving.html
Shuklack, don't expect Republicans to express coherent arguments for their own candidates or against President Obama. It simply isn't in their nature or ability.
Someone needs to win beside Obama. Why do the liberal zombies keep accepting Obama's lies about his past? If he is honest and straight forward, why is he hiding his past so diligently? Why has no 'scorned woman' come forward to accuse him of impropriety like other candidates have encountered? Why can no-one from his 'past colleges' remember him? Why is there no documented proof that he did any of what he said he did? Why does he run around and spend millions sealing his past records? Could it be that he really isn't who he says he is? I'd rather see Santorum or even Romney (just another liberal) for that matter than Obama. The more I read about Obama covering up his past and exclusively using smear campaign tactics to get elected from one political post to another, the more I feel that the might be some credence to some of the talk about presidents being 'planted' by the powerful financial entities trying to play god and control everyone.
Phil, your statement, "Could it be that he really isn't who he says he is?" is just another twist on the Birther issue or a Republican attempt to point out the Obama "isn't one of us". Please argue his policies for credibility.
///rightie logic activated//
Rick S. said the other day that Limbaugh's hometown was a Mecca for conservatives.
He must be a secret muslim. They must ALL be secret muslims.
His policies have sucked just like every other liberal attempt to socially engineer the American people, the liberals made things worse in the 70's and they are doing it again now. Obama lies like a rug on energy, saying he wants us to be energy independent but hobbling the oil industry with Chu at every opportunity. We even have video and past text based document that say that he specifically wants overpriced energy! He is just trying to get reelected with his latest reversal and trying to take credit for reduced demand. The fact of the matter is that reduced demand is from high prices! People are driving less because the prices have gone back up to the levels that curtailed use back in 2008. The forced health care bill is not going to work out well either, shoving it down our throats like a true dictator. All this need to be stopped.
How about that for issues jimsepa?
I also don't care that you think its a twist on the 'birther' issue. It is a valid question....Why does he need to cover his life up?????? Why???? Come clean!! If he is such a valid person, he needs to come up with true evidence supporting his claims, like everyone else in this world can and him hiding his past does not look very truthful!
Spoiler Gingrich needs to get out of the way.
True evidence? As in a Hawaiin birth certificate, signed, stamped, and verified by the highest office holder in the State, as well as a Senate commission reiterating his status?
Really, all has been provided, there is NOTHING more than can be done to prove it. If the highest officials in the land and the relevant and legal custodian of birth documents of Hawaii are not enough to convince you... you're lost.
Phil, your first paragraph, not bad. At least there is something to argue. Your last paragraph, not so much. As for forcing health care down "our throats" I would argue that Mr. Obama should have shoved a public option deep down "our throats". Mr. Obama's most notable mistake was pandering to the right who had no intention of honestly participating in the development of health care reform. Virtually all economists and health care experts agreed that a public option was the only true way to bring down health care costs. Instead, we got watered down legislation.
What would health care reform had looked like if reasonable Republicans came to the table and participated? We will never know, will we?
The media is still hyping the GOP nominating race, but the reality is that it's essentially over. Romney has about 53% of the delegates so far, and his big states (NY, Calif, etc.) are still to come.
All Santorum and Gingrich can do is try to deny Romney the minimum delegates needed and hope for a 'brokered' convention, but that's a very long shot at this time.
Romney is looking for a Yes from the party of No. What is he thinking?!!
@RationalAmerican - I love you!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for shining some truthful facts to the matter.
shucklack, those can be forged easily with Photoshop...there isn't enough supporting evidence. The political machine that wanted Obama in office could very easily forge that he was born on Mars if that is what it took to get him in office! I know so, I use Photoshop, it is easy to make something look old and have fonts from past typwriters etc. Why does Obama still need to cover so much of his past up? No-one else seems to be able to do that...can you answer that? How did he travel to those foreign countries I've been reading about without a US passport? Why won't he answer legitimate questions about himself when conservative candidates are drug through the coals and forced to fess up to anything and everything brought up by the liberal media whether they are true or fabricated....?
Big Deal, Santorum wins in Alabama & Mississippi, two mud states of born again & evangelicals of evolve evangelical religious extremists bible thumping fools voting for a loser over the best interest of our Country is very sad. This Santorum is Weird as a aspirin being used as fish bait and your vote for him, for most Americans is outrageous and unacceptable, what's wrong with the people in the South ? The North is heart-broken of what you are doing to this Country.
When one makes a post attesting the "idiocy" of others, one should double check their post to ensure they don't come off sounding like an under-educated lunatic.
As a counterpoint, I'm in Iowa -- and we're pretty awesome and voted "blue." Care to compare? What's your home state, Pat?
Incidentally, intended or not, the reference to Al Jolson's blackface caricaturization of President Obama's name is wearing thin. Obamby ... Mammy ... seriously?
Why don't you racist @!$%#s just call him "that @!$%#" and be done with it?
Speaking as a professional designer, if I was to forge a document, I would not use Photoshop. You know not what you speak of.
The answers you're (still) screaming for have been long-ago answered. I can only point you towards to opening of the cave. It's up to you to free yourself of your ignorance.
As far as health care goes, to answer one of the points I made about it, the freeloaders being the target, well, we should reverse many liberal decisions that got us here in the first place. The origin is not allowing hospitals to refuse service to people who couldn't pay or didn't have insurance. That ruling made things start going out of control, because, if you have all kinds of people now who can't pay for it, receiving service by mandate, people will try to get it, for free! It is human nature. It is better policy to refuse service because then it tells people that they can't get something for nothing and they had better take care of themselves, not depend on the government to do it for them. Now as a consequence we have the draconian government trying to force us to buy insurance due to the overload of freeloaders! It is crazy, making things worse and worse just because of liberal meddling in our lives. We don't need to be told how to live our lives, we need consequences for not taking care of ourselves, not 'oh the government will take care of me' attitude. Liberals are so well intentioned, but the more they meddle the worse it gets.
LOL youjustsaidthat....
So you are a professional designer, I have done a bit of that too! So you wouldn't use photoshop, big deal, you would use the editor of your preference! The point is still that it still could be forged, you speak yet say nothing!
Yes Debora, Ricky did quite well in the Southern Republican Primaries. Should he get the nomination I doubt he will fair so well with the rest of the Nation. I don't think we as a Nation are ready to turn our government over to the Taliban.
The answers you're (still) screaming for have been long-ago answered. I can only point you towards to opening of the cave. It's up to you to free yourself of your ignorance.
ok...and WHAT answers did YOU get? And you can say you are satisfied with the answers of why someone is dodgy with their past history? I don't trust someone who has to deliberately hide his past, it stinks of 'something fishy'. I am not a mush brained liberal who will accept any pat answer by their chosen god.
People like Deborah who would vote for Santorum, would also vote for Rush Limbaugh if he ran.
They vote based on who hates the same people as much or more than they do.
Deborah would vote for a racist, misogynist like Santorum. Very pathetic.
Not much different than the slaves who thought that their master whipping them was for their own good.
Uninformed, woefully ignorant and self-loathing.
Have a nice day.
Dear Phil,
Do you ever stop to consider ...
If Obama WASN'T who he says he is ...
Your elected "conservative" leaders ...
Would have done something by now ...
Instead of impotently wallowing around ...
Like infants?
When the conspiracy is too far fetched. When the conspiracy has too little support from those most impacted. When the conspiracy isn't supported by the greatest-to-gain opponents ...
THEN IT IS JUST BULLSH*T.
I'm telling this to you as a favor, dude -- both to you and those around you. Every single time one of you pops off with the non-citizen quackery, you make all of us in proximity just a wee bit dumber.
Knock it off.
No, you haven't. Stop lying. The tools used DO make a difference; it isn't a matter of preference.
Nice list of Black Republicans.
Will you follow it with a list of female misogynists and Jewish holocaust deniers, please?
Have a nice day.
I'm a "brainwashed liberal."
Things that brainswashed liberals believe:
Clean air and water are good.
There was a holocaust.
Slavery, much like Apartheid in South Africa, has had a lasting impact on social progress of black people.
Not all forms of Democracy, like ours, work. Not all forms of Socialism, like Sweden's, Norways, etc., are bad.
The armed services is a Socialist program.
People who are focused on money and power can be greedy and will exploit the less advantaged and powerless.
We believe in things that are bigger than us like the Common Good, but many of us don't believe in religious supremacy fairy tales.
People in the past have contributed greatly to make the lives of those of us living in the present better - we owe the same to the next generation.
Ayne Rand is a greedy, selfish woman.
Being a White supremacist is racist.
Pointing out racism is not racism.
Being a White supremacist and saying you're not a racist is silly as hell.
Most republicans are White supremacists.
Most republicans will lie about the previous fact.
Education is a good thing.
The Earth revolves around the Sun - not the other way around.
The Earth is not 6,000 years old.
Crazy "liberal" stuff like that.
Have a nice day. From a Brainwashed liberal.
youjustsaidwhat, ummmm, you dont know me nor I you, you DO NOT know my experience, sorry! You cannot claim that I haven't used Photoshop nor can you claim that I don't know what I'm talking about when I assert that something can be forged with software! You know just as well as I do that I am right, anything can be forged with suitable software, whether you know of better packages to do it with doesn't matter. I just want answers that aren't party line fawning over Obama. Provide me with links please!?
seriously dude, SERIOUSLY? three almost four years in and you STILL think you will defeat obama by saying he's not a citizen?
even if it WERE true (laughable) and you DO ACTUALLY believe it, its OVER!! you LOST! it WILL NOT WORK!
GIVE UP! find something else! ANYTHING ELSE!
Yay, Alabama and Mississippi!
My kids voted for SpongeBob Square pants!
hey shutyeryap: the statement: 'Most republicans are White supremacists' is so not true! and the sentence following it is not justification either! I agree with a lot of the points you make, however, there is a problem with all those concepts, they hinge on the flawed idea that 'people are basically good', people have never been 'basically good', ever, they never will be either. The concepts you mention are very admirable and desirable! Who doesn't want that to be how it is?? The fact of the matter is though, that people are not 'good', they will be greedy, envious, slothful, subject to rage and jealousy, and those derail the noble concepts every single time!
I think the best way to have a better society is for people to acknowledge that THEY are responsible for their lives, not the government. Where did the golden rule go? We are getting worse using the concept of 'the government will make all things equal and fair', it will not end up good that way.
So, in a way, you are brainwashed, you think people are always noble and respectful of each other etc. but it is not and will not ever be that way because of human nature. People need to be trained to be respectful and honorable to their fellow human beings and the government is doing a very very lousy job at it!
Thank God.
Based on your continued assertion that it's a matter of choice in regards to the creation of documents in electronic media, I can make a reasonably accurate appraisal of your "professional" experience with the Adobe Suite ... which is to say "very little."
I never said you hadn't used Photoshop. I did imply that a f*ckwit would insist on using PS to do the work better suited for InDesign or Illustrator.
They key words are SUITABLE SOFTWARE. And, contrary to what you seem to think, if a professional advises you on something contrary to your ludicrous then you keep arguing your indefensible position, it does -- in fact -- matter.
All of which is pretty telling as to why you are one of the retards still toeing the line on Obama's citizenry. Regardless of what is presented to you as fact, since it's not your f*cking idea, it can't possibly be right.
I started posting links, but then ... f*ck that. Do your own heavy lifting if you REALLY want to know.
I almost lost a perfectly good keyboard to spit-out coffee thanks to you, SYY. That was FUNNY.
good grief youjustsaidwhat, you continue to ignore the basic point, it truly doesn't matter what you know or what software you prefer to use, nor does it make sense to insult me either, the point is that the certificate posted (the one I saw posted on the internet) could be altered or fabricated and we would have no real proof of its authenticity! You may think I am a retard but you are entitled to your opinion, everyone has one, just like they have an ....... and they all stink! hehe Good day to you!
@JimSepa,
You wrote:
I will play your game exactly as you have asked.
I will vote against President Obama because I am not better off now than I was 3+ years ago. Are you? Who is? 80% in latest poll are same or worse - not good for the incumbent.
Gasoline costs about twice as much. ("Can't drill our way to lower oil prices!" Excuse me? But we can use algae, right?)
Unemployment is higher. (If you give me Stimulous we will not go above 8% unemployment)
Underemployment is higher. (1 in 6 is under or unemployed)
American debt is a whole lot higher. (Doubled)
Taxes are going up. (Didn't he say he would only raise taxes on the uber rich?)
America is more divided (didn't he say he would heal America?)
And I am afraid for my country's future. Half of us pay no federal income taxes.
Democrats think that everyone can make more than an average income. Think on that a second. The only way everyone can make average income is if we convert to communism, is that what you want my fellow Democrat Americans? Really?
UnRational AmeriCAN,
What nonsense you spew.
When you lack the facts, you are only left with "twisting" the truth.
Are you feebly trying to justify poverty in the United States of America, the Beacon of Democracy.
LBJ's War on Poverty has produce many measurable and humanitarian results.
Here are some just to inform and nauseate you (I hope that you have had your bottle:)
Because of LBJ's great political initiative, to this very day, our less economically less fortunate citizens have safety nets such as: Job Corps, Head Start, Nutritional Programs (yes, Food Stamps,) College Student loans, Loans to Small Businesses, Local Health Care Centers, Remedial Education Projects, Medicare/Medicaid, Housing and Urban Development, the Voting Rights Act and Fair Housing Laws.
Guess what "Big Boy?"
A GOP president had a spell of "compassion" and expanded LBJ's War on Poverty.
Nixon, a Republican (thinking about Watergate, who can forget this fact,) bowed to public pressure and advanced Johnson's War on Poverty platform.
Nixon attached the COLA, the Cost of Living Increase to Social Security and instituted S.S.I.
This above Republican also made it harder for our "peons" to starve to death by liberalizing Food Stamps.
Best, Nixon transferred the administration and control of the above programs to U.S. Federal Agency and jurisdictions - so that these safety nets could be made available to more Americans, and so that these life-saving programs would be fairly administered.
As a result of the beginning of the decade of GREED, 1980, the U.S. has amassed unnecessary debt.
The Cash Giveaways to the comfortable wealthy, massive fraud by Wall Street, the Banking Industry and Corporate America has tanked our economy.
The Republican crystal-clear lie of "Supply-Side, Trickle Down Theory," has drained our treasury by Trillions of critical dollars.
The GOP war hawks have been unenviably helpful in straining our economy and in the loss of thousand of our military service men and women.
Are you advocating that America revisits Hoover's turning a blind eye to the suffering of our citizen's?
Shall we stand on, "Prosperity is right around the corner and there will be a chicken in every pot?"
Corporate America does not place the American worker first.
Unpatriotic business entities have outsource a substantial number of American jobs.
These above shafters are responsible for millions of our citizens being underemployed and unemployed.
This is the wealthy exerting disproportionate political muscle and insisting on more TAX CUTS.
The rich are constantly asking for "unearned" windfalls.
We have sunked and bankrupted this country by favoring "the fortunate few."
We have cheated ourselves by giving the privileged 1%...TAX LOOPHOLES and deregulation.
Our country has also been harmed by policies that do not support and sustain an economically, viable Middle Class.
Reagan gave the Rich so many Tax Gifts, that he had to turn around and reverse his position - by RAISING Taxes.
The Republican "Supply-Side" initiative is a mathematically unbalanced equation.
There are talented people in all economic classes.
We need to uplift the middle class and the poor.
The privileged do not have a "patent" on intelligence.
When the South's "Cotton Patches and Slaves" were taken from the region, this dismal geographical region of the U.S. never recovered.
Thank God for the Blue States.
The Blue States can financially support their citizens.
If it were not for the taxes that the Blue States pay, this "liberal" regions of our Federation -would sorrowfully mirror the impoverished Red States in the South.
Your above statement is the best reason why this country should raise the minimum wage.
Corporate America should bring jobs back to the U.S.
If you move from Chicago, IL to Tupelo, MS, you are a fool.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/07/14/the-redblue-paradox
Mhmmdsux,
If UnRational AmeriCAN was speaking the truth, America would have progressed under recently Republican policies.
Your gleefully thanking the above poster is a case of the "deluded loving the deluded."
When Obama, once again takes the President Oath on January 20, 2013, America will see a Great day in this country's history.
Big deal.... Saint Rectum sweeps the two most regressive, backwoods, inbred, illiterate states in the country. What'd anyone expect ? He's definitely the King of the Mental Midgets.
And 25Walker follows the Democrat playbook completely. Insult, obfuscate, lie and twist. At no point did you address any of the points in my post. You only claimed they were lies when in fact everything I stated is the complete truth supported by countless citation.
What does (COLA) cost of living adjustment have to do with the actual cost to live today? Nothing at all, Sir as you are mixing up topics (Democrat playbook tactic).
When the South's cotton patches went away? Texas, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi were top four last year. What are you talking about? Don't you mean when the North's manufacturing plants went south. How about all those transplanted car companies from Texas to Kentucky to South Carolina to Tennessee to Alabama. Why did they not go to blue state heaven? Taxes, unions and other Democrat bastions.
Corporate America? What is that? You realize there are no corporations that require you to show American citizenship to own their stock. And there are no laws that require a company to only do business here. No corporation is betrothed to only the United States. I work for very large company that just moved its US headquarters from Chicago to Nashville and we function in over 100 countries world wide. You might be surprised to find out the company I work for is larger than General Motors but earns only 20% of its profit in the United States. We abide by every law in every country we function in but we are not an American Company. Corporations are not bound by borders. Never have been and never will be (unless Obama continues to nationalize them like (GM)).
Raising the minimum wage - tell me how that increases the number of Americans making more than average income? Take your time, Walker. The answer is none. Minimum wage increases only serve to cause inflation and hurt the very people they are intended to help - the poor. Don't believe the math? For every wage increase I will inflate my prices to offset the increase don't you realize that I will always maintain my margin. What changed? Nothing. The poor are still poor, they make more money but things cost more, my dollar is worth less, so I charge even more to make up for the loss - margins are always maintained. ECONOMIC LAW.
Have a wonderful day Walker. Perhaps in the future you can be more polite and less like a democrat.
And neither do the poor. In fact intelligence has nothing to do with your birth right.
I was born in coal fields of West Virginia in a company owned house. Three college degrees later and a long, successful corporate career and I can still smell the sulfur. I was born an Appalachian-American to a coal miner father and now I have a PhD in Operations Management specializing in global supply chains. Rather than blame others for my sad upbringing I took charge of my own life including paying 100% of my BS Mechanical Engineering degree from a state school. My family was all blue dog democrats growing up voting for Robert Byrd. But not me, I am a Reagan conservative and always will be. The funny thing is my dad and all my uncles are Republicans now. Go figure.
Feel free to blame me for your plight if it helps you sleep at night. G'night Walker.
youjustsaid---If Obama WASN'T who he says he is ...
Your elected "conservative" leaders ...
Would have done something by now
i see they believe they are still on to something about it......you never know...but it could never come at a better time than now if so.
BTW Walker - "UnRational AmeriCAN" would be better stated as "Irrational AmeriCAN"
You might want to check your patent.
Tomorrow is payday for the hard working AmeriCANs! I say thank you for working and paying your taxes. For the AmeriCAN'Ts who have to wait till the government checks come in, I say you can do better if only you take responsibility and make it happen.
shutyuryap---Things that brainswashed liberals believe:
that republicans want dirty air and water. almost the most ignorant thing obama has said...along with he read reps are biting at the chomp over high gas prices to blame on him knowing only a lib would and did come up with that analogy
Irrational AmeriCan,
You are correct in only one way. As Irrational is a more common word, it would have been best to refer to you as Irrational AmeriCAN. Big boy, no apologies, here! Your political positions were "lifted" from the GOP's fictional handbook. You posted sly mischaracterizations and bold lies. On this forum, you dropped nonsense about the reasons for the South's entrenched poverty.
Your statements are factually unsupported and are bluntly refuted.
"Snake Oil" can only be sold to the ignorant.
You supplied crazy mixed-up and illogical "math."
The GOP's "Supply-Side" economics is a failed and unbalanced mathematical equation.
Republican policies will not cause the South to progress.
Progress has to first start with oneself.
The South's confused political state is the regions biggest hindrance. Again, the Blue States are economically subsidizing the Red States. Without the Blue States' taxes, the economically dependent South would vanish.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/07/14/the-redblue-paradox
Compared to the other 3 geographical regions of the U.S., the South has the highest rates of:
- An Unsustainable Tax Base
- Political Disenfranchisement
- Unemployment
- Poverty
- Lack of Education
- Poor Health Care
- Heart Disease
- Strokes
- Diabetes
- Obesity
- Infant Mortality
- Criminal Injustice
- Incarceration
- Capital Executions
"Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas have a majority of low-income pupils."
Yet, the South continues to "put a noose around its neck" and vote for GOP platforms that will:
- Give more Tax Gifts only to the wealthy
- Eliminate Social Security
- Sink Medicare
- Slam Medicaid
- Wipe out unemployment benefits
- Reduce funding for education
- Burn nutritional programs and Food Stamps
- Defund programs for the indigent "defendant"
- Close the door to legal redress for the poor
- Speed up the criminal "injustice" process
- Build more prisons
- Increase executions
The GOP's political platforms have brought havoc to America - and more so, to the South. This right wing party has favored the rich - at the expense of "the majority and the rest of us." For the South to vote for Gingrich and Santorum and "self-destructive" political directions - exposes this region of our country "stubborn ignorance." There is Nothing that you can say that will refute the above politically unacceptable and undemocratic truths.
If your avatar is a baby picture of you...I would not display it.
If your avatar is a baby picture of you...I would not display it.
You purport to be a learned Democrat and yet you come across as a childish. Broad brushing, most Democrats resort to insults after they have lost an argument. As is typical you have followed suit.
Please argue the merits of increasing the minimum wage again. Or do you concede that raising the minimum wage last time only resulted in fewer jobs and inflation most noted at the fast food restaurant chains but rampant throughout the economy.
BTW - if you think my math is hokum then please explain how in the Democrat world, a majority of people can make an above average income. Please show me that math.
Please refute that no corporations are nationalized (with exception of General Motors) and are therefore free to do business legally where ever they wish and by whatever means they choose to maximize their share holder value.
Please refute that cotton is not dead in the south as you stated in your post 2.82, hint Google "cotton production by state" which you alluded to in your post 2.82.
Please refute that the poverty rate under Obama is not 5% higher than George W. Bush. Or higher than Reagan or Clinton or George H.W. Bush or Carter or Nixon or Johnson.
Please refute that more people are not on welfare under Obama than any other president.
Please refute that people and companies are not leaving the North in droves. According to the US Census from 2000 - 2010 population growth by state is as follows:
South of the Mason Dixon Line we have:
You are wrong Walker, the north is losing its people to the south. The next question is why? Is it because they are attracted to all those stereotypical things you posted above like lousy education and healthcare, backwoods inbreeding, racism? I'd venture people are moving south because they want to work and companies are moving south and because of better tax burdens which makes it far easier to provide for one's family. I live in Tennessee where there is no state income tax, property tax is low (about $600 annual per appraised value $100K), we have a hefty sales tax of 9.25% on everything. Tennessee finished the year with a modest surplus and no one is running around demanding that taxes increase. I know that must sound strange to you Walker (who I cannot help but notice did not state where you live), low taxes and a balanced budget.
I have to go to dinner now (I am in Hong Kong for a couple of weeks).
One last thing, the baby picture is of my 3 year old son. How nice of you to insult a child. I thought Democrats preached civility. Show me where I insulted you in any of my posts.
You should be ashamed but you are not. You are just a typical liberal zealot who acts like a brat when they lose the argument.
Hey Walker,
How does Obama survive higher gas prices and this little nugget that ACA (Obamacare) will cost double what was previously estimated by CBO? And it covers fewer people (about 2 million less).
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/14/cbo-health-law-estimate-shows-much-higher-spending-beyond-first-10-years/
Good night buddy. Gotta fly to Bangkok tomorrow morning for the weekend.
Phil.
I apologize for saying that most republicans are White supremacists.
What I SHOULD have said was, Most republicans are white supremacists and some of them are too dumb to even know that they are.
And when did I ever say that I believe that most people are good?
You're deluded. I believe that goverrnment is a good safeguard against the inate selfishness, greediness and inconsiderate behavior of people.
Drive a car down a road without stop signs, traffic lights or warning signs if you don't agree.
Quit talking out of your arse. Your brainfarts are stupid.
Your little diatribe is proof positive that your the one who's brainwashed.
Have a nice day.
shut yer yap - Is that what your wife says to you? your boss? or just anyone who knows you?
Strike that, I don't know you but I sure wish you would. Think of the CO2 savings.
Irrational AmeriCAN,
You attempt to "insult."
Hypocritically, when you find yourself "offended," you scream like a baby "fowl."
No apologies, here!
GOP economic policies have SUNK America.
The fallacy of "give all the riches to the wealthy and the economic benefits will trickle down," started with Reagan in 1980. Since 1980, this country has cemented itself in failed Republican policies. The GOP's "achievements" can be summed up as:
"Never have so few, done so much for the FEW!
Without a financially viable and strong middle class, the financial health any nation will decline.
The economic deterioration of our middle class is the result of myopic and destructive right-wing policies.
The "austerity for the populace economic principle" has caused a staggering number of our middle class citizens to fall below the Federal Poverty level. This fact is a paradox of our etched in stone principle, "The Land of Opportunity"
With the exception of the current improving employment statistics under President Obama, it was only under the Democratic administration of President Clinton that our middle class was uplifted and progressed. Common Sense dictates that if you allow only the small and privileged 1% to economically, politically and socially thrive, all of the citizens that "financially fall beneath" this tiny segment of the population, will experience a serious financial decline.
Big Boy, what wealth has "Trickled Down" since Reagan, and subsequent GOP administrations?
Cash has rained on the elites.
"The party of Lincoln" has robbed America.
Under GOP deregulation and spreading cronyism: Wall Street economically gutted this land; banks stole the property of millions of our homeowners; corporations outsourced our jobs, engaged in massive TAX Evasion, malevolently created "unheard of" TAX loopholes; trusting investors were scammed out of their investments; retirees had their pensions stolen; our citizens lost access to adequate health care; our youth educationally fell behind Western European countries and the totalitarian nations of Eastern despots; our environment was placed in the hands of the corporate elites to "manage and protect." Not surprisingly, Republican-driven greed, has caused our environment to be plundered.
Desperately, with excitement the Right foams at the mouth at its dream of returning America to the "good ole days." However, these reactionaries have forgotten that when Corporations actually paid a TAX RATE of 30% and significantly more in the 1950's that America's budget was not our current and avoidable economic "hole." You and your "fuzzy figures" have failed to rebuke the truth of the devastation that "your political party" has dumped on America.
Our hard-working citizens, the elderly and the impoverished poor deserve better than our current GOP mess. You can continue to remain politically blind, or you can open your eyes and stand for progressive change. If you really love America...vote for Obama in November 2012.
The Choice is Yours...and I rest my case!
Democrat code for become a socialist country and abandonment of the Constitution.
As is typical of Liberals spewing tax policy as if they know anything about it, you fail to account for the fact that federal tax revenues go up when the people have more of the money because as the money moves through the system it is taxed. Each time the Federal government has cut Capital Gains Tax rates in the last 30 years the Federal tax revenue INCREASED each time.
Let me make is simple for the double digits out there like Walker, there are two extremes in economics, zero taxes and 100 percent taxes, both absurd but relevant to demonstrate what happens at the edges and to signal danger as we approach the extremes.
A zero tax structure results in anarchy as no government revenue means no government. No laws. No country. I am sure even Walker the baby insulter can understand that.
A 100% tax structure results in tyranny where work and success have no incentive. People will rise up and abandon this government.
In between we have the major forms of government isms. Capitalism, Socialism, Fascism, Communism and Walkerism (an extreme version of government where one is supposed to insult babies).
Liberals seem hell bent on abandoning capitalism for socialism (progressive-ism). Robinhood himself would be proud of this rob from the rich and give to the poor mantra and who can't get behind it. But this fair tale requires an unlimited supply of rich people to steal from (to tax in government parlance). Margaret Thatcher said it best when she painted socialism with these words, "The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of OTHER PEOPLE's money." So to the Progressive Socialists like Walker the baby insulter, tell me how socialism is sustainable? Specifically, how does it sustain itself when the day arrives that 50.1 percent of the nation pays no federal tax, meaning they are receiving federal money without paying anything for it. Where did that money come from? The other 49.9 percent for all you baby insulters out there. So what is the incentive for the next 0.1 percent to continue to work hard to pay federal taxes for the majority? Why not just ease up and move to the other side of the ledger, to become a taker, not a payer.
The USSR had this problem big time and that is why they failed. My wife emigrated to this country from the Soviet Union 26 years ago. You should hear her talk about communism. Everyone sitting around waiting for food, electricity, gas, clothes, healthcare, waiting for someone else to make the goods, grow the food, do the work. The result was a system optimized to the lowest common denominator, which is to say, the laziest were rewarded just as much as the most industrious. How long did the industrious folks pull hardest on the plow, Walker the baby insulter? About 72 years. And then the country died. And transitioned to a form of CAPITALISM of all things.
France is a socialist country. It is dying, collapsing under the weight of its socialist obligations.
Greece is a socialist country. It just died and the viewing is next week. Its socialist obligations collapsed their government.
Spain is a socialist country. The benefits paid to the unemployed are enough to live well on. They have no incentive to look for work (20-25% unemployment) but the beaches are full of young people getting tans year round, drinking wine, and having a laugh at the workers expense.
Ireland is a socialist country. It is next to die unless the socialist country Italy beats them to the punch.
Portugal is a socialist country. It is on life support.
The United States of America is a socialist country hell bent on abandoning capitalism. We are choking to death under the weight of our socialist debts. Currently two thirds of our federal revenue is consumed by Medicare and Social Security. Obamacare will consume an even larger share.
A funny thing about our Civil War that historians have conveniently lost in the narrative. They would have you believe the Civil War was about Slavery. Not so. They may try to have you believe the war was caused by a difference of opinion on lifestyles - industry versus plantation economics. Not so. What is lost on most people, because it is not so glamorous a reason, the North was heavily in debt due to its industrialization and infrastructure building. The South was not in debt. The North tried to federalize debt the South would have to pay for through tax generation. This was the real reason the two sides squared off. All that other stuff was to make us feel good about the immorality of a horrible war that was only supposed to last a couple of months.
And here we sit a 150 years later, choking on federal debt. Lieberal Progressive Socialists want more debt and for noble reasons. Conservatives want less debt because the believe the preservation of our Union and the survival of the United States is a good thing - also a noble reason. I cannot believe the state of America at this time. I actually see a reasonable chance of a dissolved union purely as a result of our disagreement over federalized debt.
So Walker-ism (the baby insulter), tell me how much of my hard earned money is enough for you socialists. Give me a number. Go on record. I am a man, not a baby, so this may be tough for you to demand what ever amount you think I should give. But first let me give you some facts from the IRS.
In 2010 the US Treasury received just short of $900 Billion in income taxes. Our budget deficit is about $1500 Billion annually. Corporations paid about $150 Billion in taxes to the Feds. So how much do you want from me, from all Americans and from Corporations (you know those nasty things that pay people in the first place). You can harp about evil greedy people and corporations all you want, but how can you justify a 50% increase in personal income tax revenue? Perhaps we should entertain some social cuts to help, what do you think Walker the baby insulter? Do you honestly sit there and think the economy is static enough that you could increase the tax burden by another 50% and it won't have dynamic impact? And that is where liberal progressive socialist economic policy fails.
Have a great weekend! Go to the park and insult some babies, Walker.
I already have...You!
"Vets For Romney"?? Vets,.??????
I've entered the Twilight Zone..
considering how he treats his dog, I doubt it's veterinarians
lol good one detroit!
I'm a veteran and will be voting for Romney.
Well Skup, it might interest you to understand that if indeed a person spends more than he takes in every year, it is good for "the economy". He has spent more, putting more out there in his community to move around, and he would have to be using credit in order to do this at all, meaning someone is earning interest as well, so......Of course, eventually the guy is going to have to increase his income (raise taxes, generate income through programs and interactions with private concerns, for instance.). Maybe he invests, maybe he takes another job, or maybe he gets a raise. Mitt is a deceiver, you want to go with that? Whatever...... Is this the problem we are seeing in the military? Not enough education, too much indoctrination?
No worries Alabama and Mississippi alway's go Republican, so whoever wins tonight a Republican will carry the states in November.
I hope they make Romney run for his political life though, Newt or Rick will keep him on the hot seat. Maybe Newt will carry one state and Rick will carry the other, oh well a person can dream.
TO: Skup who wrote:
Desk job, anxious for a tour of duty in Iran, or not really a vet?
My father is a vet and voting Romney
You really think President Obama doesn't want to go war with Iran. That's a joke, truth is he is being held back by Russia and China who said they would start world war 3 with us if we go into war with Iran or Syria. The American media and our gov't are deceivers beyond belief. We're playing chicken with Iran right now and have military games going on in Israel, after the fact Obama expanded the military industrial complex. Barrack just wants to get re-elected and has been a more radical version of Dub-ya within his first term of office. He's also pushing for war in Uganda just wait and see there will be more troops then the hundred he already sent and has nothing to do with Joseph Kony but the oil reserves that were discovered in 2009, which is more then most middle east countries. You think our wonderful POTUS is so great go protest with OWS at any campaign event and find out what H.R. 347 is, bet you stop believing he gives a crap about the common worker after then.
I'm a vet ....Obama 2012!.....Solid job growth 3 months in a row.......Historical health care reform (so people don't die over money...you know christian and amazingly liberal).....Banks with over 50 bil in assets passed the strain test two days ago (test was to see how the individual banks would handle an 08' re-occurrence). Unemployment has gone down instead of up (I really think people have very little understanding of the 08' financial events....We lost vast amounts of wealth in a very short period of time......No thought of a long term effect?....Just ...we gave them a bunch of money and since then all is well? Great depression and worse would have been the long term effect...) Obama killed Osama bin Laden (no.....I don't think Obama pulled the trigger...But he achieved what his predecessor could not....His "doctrine" was different...Like drones instead of soldiers). He tried to stop the bush tax temporary cuts for the rich (Ok.....I want everybody to understand this.....The rich should pay the same percentage of their income like the middle and lower class......Even Bush knew they couldn't be permanent tax cuts....it was his version of a stimulus for the economy....temporary...short term injection....and now they want a permanent stimulus package.....Let the rich pay their fair share)....... So based on all that......I think he has done a pretty good job....and as a small business owner that has had excessive growth since 08', I want to pay my fair share......I want my brother human being to be able to receive quality medical treatment whether he has an insurance policy or not (You know be good to others and all that....I'm not terrible religious...but Jesus wasn't about profit over compassion..He didn't say that he couldn't heal you because it was a pre-existing condition..He really didn't strike me as the type that would leave you to die if you where lazy either.....He was all about taking care of your brother man...This is my go at christian support). I want the world to be right again (the last decade has been a rough one)......and besides the GOP has a bunch of chimps up there hurting each other more than trying to appeal to the party base (if that even exists anymore).
Ron Paul is our only hope.
Re:
wizkid78232, H.R. 347
Here is the link to see what bill HR 347 actually is, which was just passed March 12, 2012. Sounds very scary, and strangely enough, just like something Dubya would have done!!
Wizkid....LOLZ....Oxymoron......Paranoid a little?.....It is a FACT that Obama is christian......It is a FACT that Obama was born in the US. If you believe he is Muslim....then you are fabricating the rest....Please retard yourself from dumifying any other potential idiot that reads this and is paranoid as well and propagates your delusional theories.
Anyone who believes that we're on the brink of war with Iran is seriously delusional.
They've dismantled their nuclear weapons program. They could restart it in a year or two, if they chose to. If they did that, they'd be 4 or 5 years away from having enough enriched material to build a weapon.
The sanctions and international political pressure are working. They're rattling their sabres just like Saddam did.
Remember Iraq? The country that Dumbya said had to be invaded RIGHT NOW! because they had a giant stockpile of WMDs?
The only thing that came ouf of that war was proof that the sanctions implemented by the UN, Bush I, and Clinton worked.
Obama's too smart to get us into another war in the Middle East while we're still mired down in Afghanistan. Can't say the same for Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp on the other side though.
2 tours in Vietnam. Voting for President Obama
Skup
I shuttled gas to the Marines at Cua Viet and Khe Sahn for most of three years. I served two years in a rescue and salvage group evacuating Marines and patrolling the coast after dark. I wouldn't vote for Romney if he was the only candidate running on both tickets.
My cover is off to you oneiron. Keep posting with pride.
If so we are toast because he is slightly crazier than his bat sh!t crazy ideas!
as usual a bunch of ado over nothing HR 347:
One Hundred Twelfth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,
the third day of January, two thousand and twelve
An Act
To correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings
or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Federal Restricted Buildings
and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011’’.
SEC. 2. RESTRICTED BUILDING OR GROUNDS.
Section 1752 of title 18, United States Code, is amended to
read as follows:
‘‘§ 1752. Restricted building or grounds
‘‘(a) Whoever—
‘‘(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building
or grounds without lawful authority to do so;
‘‘(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the
orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such
proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so
that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly
conduct of Government business or official functions;
‘‘(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt
the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted
building or grounds; or
‘‘(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence
against any person or property in any restricted building or
grounds;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided
in subsection (b).
‘‘(b) The punishment for a violation of subsection (a) is—
‘‘(1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more
than 10 years, or both, if—
‘‘(A) the person, during and in relation to the offense,
uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm;
or
‘‘(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as
defined by section 2118(e)(3); and
‘‘(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more
than one year, or both, in any other case.
‘‘(c) In this section—
H. R. 347—2
‘‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any
posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area—
‘‘(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice
President’s official residence or its grounds;
‘‘(B) of a building or grounds where the President or
other person protected by the Secret Service is or will
be temporarily visiting; or
‘‘(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction
with an event designated as a special event of national
significance; and
‘‘(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service’
means any person whom the United States Secret Service is
authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by
Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined
such protection.’’.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate
Try to think about it a while. This is to protect the President and officials in transit from people entering into restricted areas. It's been around for years, it's how Bush kept his protestors sequestered and how GOPeeps had them removed from town halls. etc. This particular President needs it to keep racists from killing him, face it.Maybe if we could get the 1%'s stranglehold on our government overthrown and back the President with community minded progressives we wouldn't need this or the Patriot act any more.......
Peter - Who brainwashed you? Historic healthcare reforms? You mean, the ones that penalize those of us who have no insurance by making us pay even more in taxes, which we already can't afford???
I can't go to the emergency room for a fractured ankle because I'll be sued and have my wages garnished or get a lien put on my home, but the illegal aliens down the street can take their kids there for a runny nose, no problems, no repercussions.
Yeah, Obama's a real saint.
Navy Vet, USS Marias, AO57 and Fleet Air Jax, 1970-74, voting for Obama.
Maybe not quite a saint...but close
and that's is also the point...See you can now go to the emergency room with that broken ankle.....even if there are a bunch of little illegal immigrants in there with you. The estimates on the losses incurred due to illegal immigrants health care costs is a drop in the bucket applyed to the deficit. You don't know that? Google it....
Crying
Stop living off of us Progressives who have insurance and go get some, jeeezzzz you want to be able to go to the emergency room when you get hurt and pass along the bill to the rest of us insred who have to pay higher premiums to cover your welfare butt, TYPICAL TEAPUBLICAN ?
Idiots that actually think Santorum or Newt will win Romney. Ricky won another state. Congrads Ricky you now almost have half the delegates of what Romney has. Cute!
If Romney wins the nomination, which he probably will, I just don't see a high turnout to vote for some pompous corporate raider. The guy pays 15% income tax and stashes his cash overseas. I've said this before, but it bears repeating. On opensecrets.org and factcheck.org it shows that the President has his money in US Treasury Bills. He believes that we can have a middle class again and he put his money where his mouth his--and his money and mouth aren't in Switzerland, as is Romney's.
I bet Romney would drown a bag of cute fluffy kittens in a ice cold lake.
Southern whites vote for 1. Religion 2. Southern 3. Fiscal Conservative 4. Anti Northern.
Credits go to Devils Son.
Pssst,Pssst, um, uh, Newts loose again. Pissed too. You men folk better stand back to back when He's around. He can steal your money and leave your wallets intact. Suggest you ladies wear gallused pants and tie the legs at your ankles when He's near. Even then be ever alert. The man can cop a feel quicker than a cat can lick Its ass. Just a friendly warning. It's a religious thing with him you know. Loves both his and your salvation.
Did Obama ever give back that money from the super PAC ( 1 Million) to fund his election campaign? If not, why do you think he needs that money if he's such a shoe in for re-election? I think they President is hiding a lot more money than you think he is, and it isn't in tea bills.
Another vet here voting for Obama, the obvious choice.
Peter, keep up with your posting. We need more truth and honesty out there. I'm tired of all the teatard lies. Just to think I served 3 tours just to protect their rights to spread their bigotry.
Fiscal conservative? Sure it's easy to be fiscally conservative when 1/3 of your state live in poverty and rely on Fed $ like Medicaid and Medicare and your education rank 1st from the bottom. Progressive states have high taxes so our kids can get a good education; taxes I gladly pay. By the way, my tax bracket is 31%, more than twice of Romney.
devils son--If so we are toast because he is slightly crazier than his bat sh!t crazy ideas
by your user name you certainly are toast
sandrich--and his money and mouth aren't in Switzerland, as is Romney's
if you were smart and wealthy where would your mo be?
peter---Historical health care reform (so people don't die over money
but now people will starve over money...to pay healthcare...and if they don't get numerus test the gov says you must get that year (which you can't afford being ins doesn't cover it, and that's with paying over $750 mon) they add $25 a mon the next year on policy.
so now historically how is that working out for you? because it's not for me
squire--Southern whites vote for 1. Religion 2. Southern 3. Fiscal Conservative 4. Anti Northern
southern whites/black/mexican 1. anti-obama
peter---Obama killed Osama bin Laden (no.....I don't think Obama pulled the trigger...But he achieved what his predecessor could not
does waterboarding sound familiar? thanks to it and the former predecessor also
Psssst, Unhappy--think that's you're username now, you'll be able to add another adjective come November. What % of Mr Riomney's donations come from small individuals?---<8%. Correct. What % of President Obama's donations come from individuals like me--small donors? >55%--great. Who is getting the money from Wall Street because they want one of their own to deregulate? Romney---CORRECT! You're 3 for 3, so I certainly don't want to throw you a high fastball.
I watch a show after Obama became President and it was mostly about the south and how they felt about Obama becoming President. I want to say the show was called something like "Obama's road to the White House". The show was an awaking for me, its the first time I seen how people lived in Mississippi and how they felt too. Thats a very die hard republican state if I ever seen one. They actually take in more welfare then the state pays into it. The believe they need welfare and medicaid and medicare but its against their beliefs to take it. They feel they should be able to earn a living and live by their principals and morals, but since they can't welfare will do til they can. They all thought Dubya was a great president and hardly any of them had teeth, if they did then just a few of them. They were prejudce and racists and I want to think brainwashed too, because no matter what, the republicans always do the right thing and Dubya was a great president, even after they just got done saying he did somethings wrong, the next sentenceout of their mouths was that Dubya was a great man. I never would of believe that people like that exist today in our country but I did see it on tv and I doubt they were acting. Whats the problem down there? Education comes to mind for me but seriously its 2009 when I watched that show, what have they been doing there til now? What a shame that is, and since watching that show I have learned they are the last in education in the country. So last in education and first in recieving welfare and medicare along with medicaid but they would vote for a repube 100% and lose welfare along with healthcare and they just can't see that the repubes don't care about them? They are the poorest state in the country, the houses I seen them living in were poor homes but they are very proud people and they believe in God but are racists. How come they contradict themselves every other sentence but can't see or understand what they are saying. It was an eye opener for me and I feel bad for them, they need this countries help to continue to survive, but I also can see them being taught to use party balloons too. Well as far as Santorum winning Mississippi, those people down there still love Dubya?
joe--
they may not be real smart...but they know what's right
The Biggest US Welfare States
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310/The_Biggest_US_Welfare_States
15.
Oregon
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.55%
2007 spending: $83.85 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 58,831
% Change in past 12 months: +27.2%
Unemployment (May 2009): 12.4%
14.
Pennsylvania
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.60%
2007 spending: $247.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 198,666
% Change in past 12 months: -1.7%
Unemployment (May 2009): 8.2%
13.
Michigan
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.65%
2007 spending: $380.93 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 164,589
% Change in past 12 months: -4.8%
Unemployment (May 2009): 14.1%
12.
Rhode Island
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.79%
2007 spending: $57.4 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 18,839
% Change in past 12 months: N/A
Unemployment (May 2009): 12.1%
Tie-10.
Indiana
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.83%
2007 spending: $102.27 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 116,430
% Change in past 12 months: -5.3%
Unemployment (May 2009): 10.6%
Tie-10.
New Mexico
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.83%
2007 spending: $58.87 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 36,322
% Change in past 12 months: +20%
Unemployment (May 2009): 6.5%
9.
Washington
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.86%
2007 spending: $265.88 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 121,864
% Change in past 12 months: 18.4%
Unemployment (May 2009): 9.4%
8.
Minnesota
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.88%
2007 spending: $106.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 98,028
% Change in past 12 months: 5.9%
Unemployment (May 2009): 8.2%
7.
New York
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.92%
2007 spending: $1.47 billion
Total recipients (July 2008): 373,305
% Change in past 12 months: 1.2%
Unemployment (May 2009): 8.2%
6.
District of Columbia
%
of pop. on assistance: 1.99%
2007 spending: $18.67 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 11,806
% Change in past 12 months: -6.3%
Unemployment (May 2009): 10.7%
5.
Vermont
%
of pop. on assistance: 2.02%
2007 spending: $30.92 milliion
Total recipients (July 2008): 12,543
% Change in past 12 months: 7.3%
Unemployment (May 2009): 7.3%
4.
Massachusetts
%
of pop. on assistance: 2.09%
2007 spending: $295.29 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 136,033
% Change in past 12 months: 5.4%
Unemployment (May 2009): 8.2%
3.
Tennessee
%
of pop. on assistance: 2.15%
2007 spending: $91.28 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 133,505
% Change in past 12 months: 5.7%
Unemployment (May 2009): 10.7%
2.
Maine
%
of pop. on assistance: 2.37%
2007 spending: $61.73 million
Total recipients (July 2008): 31,148
% Change in past 12 months: 5.3%
Unemployment (May 2009): 8.3%
1.
California
%
of pop. on assistance: 3.30%
2007 spending: $3.28 billion
Total recipients (July 2008): 1,212,893
% Change in past 12 months: 10.4%
Unemployment (May 2009): 11.5%
charsweb, they're told what's right and because they are not smart, they believe it.
rightwingnut liars are running the GOP.
Voting against your own self interests is not smart or right, it is just plain STUPID. These people don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of but keep voting for the party that doesn't give a CRAP about you because what RELIGION a candidate is, the color of their skin matters MORE and dumb SOCIAL issues like abortion is STILL more imporatnt then getting jobs or the economy. These people don't have a clue and it is no wonder they can barely read or write and live in homes that have no indoor plumbing in the 21st century.
Edit: important/tvr
P.S. Still waiting for tax cheat Romney to reveal to AMERICA at least the last FIVE YEARS of HIS tax returns. Where the HECK ARE they and WHY aren't Americans DEMANDING this instead of still bringing up Barack Obama's BIRTH certificate 5 years later?
Joe, you just proved what 80% of Americans know. People like larry-nc make up numbers to try to look smart, but show no idea of how to research anything. Left wang dimwhitcraps at their finest!
Oh, and teresa on the above post, don't cry tax cheat unless you get obamy to use only one social security card, and have the idiot not use foreign exchange student to keep from paying for college while using real tax payers money. Time to wake up and use your head for something even if it is just to put a hat on.
@chartsweb; Honestly I didn't see the people there say anything thats right. I'm not saying they aren't good people, I like to think the entire country consists of good people, but honestly chartsweb it seemed to me that they had the fear of God put into them by politicians. I ended up watching the whole show after I started, it was very interesting to me, like I said I wouldn't of thought it was possible to feel like that in this day and age in America, ok that was 2009 when I watched that show, still close enough. They contradicted everything they said and it seemed to me like they didn't know for themselves what to believe or what is right. I honestly think that if they lost the support of the country because of they way they voted and someone like Newt was elected, it would be a very hard life for them. I'm not saying they are bad people, but they seemed programmed when they spoke and to me it seemed like a politician programmed them and its all because of religion. Almost everyone of them said that religion needed to be back in politics. If that program was to ever air again please watch it.
DELEGATES: - Santorum 21, Newt 17, ROMNEY 16, If you ask me l say Romney "WON" 5 delegates over Romney is not a win. I also think the big winner was Newt !
teresa van remortel; you either been to Mississippi sometime in your life or else you watched the same show I did. Its exactly how your saying in your posts. If someone like Newt was to be elected they would be in for a very rude surprise for who they voted for. It would be very hard for them to survive. Newt believes in eating our wounded and he never lifted a finger to do anything himself. Those people don't know what they are doing to vote for their own causes, if it wasn't for the rest of the country voting the people in Mississippi just might not survive. I actually feel bad for them and the people that made them like that and continue to let them be like this need to be in prison.
Piegan....
Mormons are not Christians...they are a cult....and I dont want my leader being a cultist taking orders from Salt Lake City! That is why Romney cant win in the deep south...evangelicals see through the LDS fraud.
Four years motor lifeboat engineer US Coast Guard, Retired SFC US Army. Voting for Obama.
Vote Ron Paul!!!!!! These other candidates are completely bought and paid for... robots. I wish people would quit voting with their egos.People would vote for any moron for the sake of being right or to win the "argument". They are all the same including Obama. Instead of getting mad at each other, we need to get mad at the government that is destroying the freedoms of America.They call it the land of the free... nothing could be farther from the truth.Every day they pass new laws, and take away our rights.Our country has more laws than any other on the planet. Our government needs to be redesigned.The perpetuation of the industrial military complex is out of control. The commingling of corporations and government military power is preposterous. You think the mafia has thugs? It's nothing compared to a corporation having control of our military and that is what you get with these bought and paid for idiots that run our lives. Vote Ron Paul or anything but democrat or republican... they may not be able to get alot done but it sends a message that we want real change, besides nothing is better than what these other idiots will do if given the chance. The American election process has become a complete joke and we are the laughing stalk because of it. People need to get angry and not at each other. We could all come together and force real change. PEACE OUT
joe---
even so---now that they have obama what has changeed for them?
Vets who vote for Romney or Santorum will most likely be of the ilk that will join militia groups.
Plenty of "Vets" in militia groups.
Have a nice day.
Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic, conspiracy theorist little Rumpelstiltskin.
Give it a rest.
If veterans think that military personnel would be immune to Romney's outsourcing, just take a look at how many military contractors sprung up under Bush. And this time Romney has no bones about it, too.
"Vet from 1961, Will be Voting for OBAMA"
If you are an Obama supporter. The trolls are playing you. They don't want to hear your answers, so ignore the corporate spun right wing crap they get from their plethora of websites let alone the spin doctors who get their talking points from Faux News/Beck/Rush.
By defending Obama, only allows the trolls to keep spreading their lies. Concentrate on what the article is about, the Republicans. There is enough out there to attack all these candidates without lying as the trolls do. They either know they're lying or too misinformed to understand the complicated answers to complicated questions. Quit feeding the trolls.
I feed the trolls....I love the trolls...
@Chartsweb....I apologize if life is all about you....I'm sorry you don't believe in the right to life unless they are in a poverty stricken woman's belly.......You don't see the madness of this right wing nonsense? You must have the baby and then let it not have health care and then starve to death....Good plan.....You guys are mind numbing at times.....
peter...I'm sorry you don't believe in the right to life....You must have the baby and then let it not have health care and then starve to death
??? which is it? i don't believe in right to life or they must have the baby? because the 2 are not the same. do you know any in poverty that are not on medicare or gov assistance and starving? nothing is going to change for them either way. what is all about me?
i see the madness clearly now
peter---
do not let your trolls play you because they are doing a good job!
LOLZ....That is what your party promotes no abortion....no assistance......Trickle down effect from the rich.....Once again your business and ethics policies are in contradiction. Chartsweb open a book instead of living in ignorance....
peter---
you are the one who said i DON'T believe in the right to life. i think you need to look it up. that's the contradiction
So you have a republican pseudo belief system.... like the republicans but not quite? Kinda like picking the parts of the bible that you agree with........ I know you are going to make another comment. One of those that has to always have the last word............
I love how they keep saying that one should drop out so that the other can stand a chance against Romney. It's not like they don't take any votes away from Romney by fighting each other. Until Romney gets 1144 which is looking less and less likely they all have a chance in a brokered convention. The real chance is for the Republican party to throw the 4 horsemen out and pick a real candidate to run against Obama.
you know that will never happen they are too stubborn to quit and no reasonable republican wants to stain their reputation by enter this free-for-all of a GOP nomination even if they had nothing to do with it
ever heard guilty by association basically if you are with a friend who commits a crime you can also be charged with the crime even if you didn't do anything. same principle, with how bad this GOP nomination is any Republican even if it is from a convention will have to deal with all the problems the GOP nominees have created, so it is in the best interest of other Republicans to stay out of this fight
so this general election is more or less a forfeit by the republican party so that they can clean out the radicals in their party. at least i hope that is what they are doing that would be the smart thing to do, because at this rate the party is in self-destruct mode and they need to get the nuts out
TO: Iowa - Guy who wrote:
I'm hoping for the Brokered Convention, AND I'm hoping for a "Sarah Palin Nomination" at the Convention (she said she wouldn't say no).
But right now, I don't see that any one of them has the right to ask another to "drop out". Anything can still happen as far as the Republican Nomination goes. But, none of them can beat President Obama.
Obama / Biden 2012
TG ... you've got it exactly right. The GOP has gone so far over the edge that the best thing that can possibly happen is for it to lose by a huge margin. Even better would be for it to lose by a huge margin with Santorum as its candidate so that no one could claim that the party wasn't conservative enough. Then, the party moderates would finally have the guts to bring the party back to where it belongs.
I'm hoping for the Brokered Convention...
LOL.
Iowa-When a democrat is hoping for the same thing that you are, something must be wrong. Why? Because a brokered convention would destroy the Republican party and guarantee Obama the election. You cannot ignore the majority of Republican voters and then expect them to support an entirely new candidate. If there were a brokered convention, in all liklihood the nomination would go to the candidate with the most pledged delegates and the largest share of the popular vote. Even in this scenerio, the party would emerge fractured and unable to elect it's nominee. This is also why Santorum's strategy for forcing a brokered convention and convincing the local commitees to vote delegates to him is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
any one of them is wayyyyyyy better than obama.
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!!!!
Archie Bunker was a Prophet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osqL-UwH2SU
jo,
In what way is any GOP candidate better than Obama? Romney is Wall St, Santorum is batsh*t crazy extreme right wing pseudo-Christian nut job that wants to control minorities and Gingrich is a liar and cheating scumbag (not really going to legitimize Ron Paul because even republicans won't.)
A brokered convention won't hurt anything, other than if a previously not running candidate would have a steep hill to climb. No previously unknown is going to be selected. You could see a draft Trump or Palin move or a couple of other lesser knowns, but in the end putting someone with the ability win is the bottom line.
The brokered convention is Ron Paul's only chance at winning the nomination.
@American Girl-
I hope you're only hoping for Palin for the entertainment value!
Watch "Game Changer" on HBO. Really pulls back the curtain. Several insiders from the McCain campaign advised on the production, and others have commented that it was very accurate.
Scary to think she was nearly only 1 heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
Rove is spending a lot of time with Jeb Bush. Scary Huh!
Then one day he was sayin' sumpin' crude and up from the ground came a bubblin' Jeb. Oilman that is. Black sheep, Texas Tea Partier. Dum didddy dum, diddy dum dum dum.
You can't really believe any of these other GOP clowns is electible?
Even more terrifying to think someone like Santorum could win a nomination... But watching Presdient Obama demolish him in the general would be terribly amusing.
I think that American Girl was looking for the entertainment value mike from AZ-she has a Obama 2012 down at the bottom of her post.
I must confess that ANY of the Republican nominees (Horsemen of the Apocalypse) wining is "playing with fire" in that they all are very weird/extreme/corrupt in their thinking (putting it mildly). The thought of any of them wining terrifies me
From what I see of the GOP in state legislatures is just plain scarry too.
The only hope is for the Republican Party to purge the nut cases (or spin them off) and regain their sanity by refutting the fanatical rhetoric and middle ages morality.
What I don't get about them is this: If ignorance is bliss, why are they all so angry?
Kissinger supposedly spilled the beans to the Chinese on a recent visit about the GOP plan. Brokered convention in Tampa, with Jeb Bush as the candidate. Guy is not a nut job like the rest, but him being a Bush is risky. Thing is if the Establishment is indeed doing this, does that mean something bad is going to happen come Nov? Bush might beat Obama outright at this juncture, but if the economy keeps looking like it is slowly improving and Obama can keep us out of war, he should be a shoe in still.
Mike from AZ,Thanks for the laugh. I'm getting so bored watching these 4 crazies, throwing Palin in will add some entertainment value and make more people realize how far the GOP has fallen off the deep end.
I must say Ron Paul has been the only consistent candidate; consistently getting single digit except for Maine. He is also consistently crazy.
honestjoe--
callapsed by community. they can't handle the truth lol
honestjoe-
Get real.
Top Ten States with the Highest Obesity Rates
1. West Virginia: 34.3 percent
2. Delaware: 33.6 percent
3. Mississippi: 32.1 percent
4. Louisiana: 31.2 percent
5. South Carolina: 30.6 percent
6. Indiana: 30.5 percent
7. North Dakota: 30.2 percent
8. Oklahoma: 30.2 percent
9. Kentucky: 29.9 percent
10. Ohio: 29.0 percent
Read more: http://www.naturalhomeandgarden.com/natural-health/top-10-least-and-most-obese-states-america.aspx#ixzz1p5n49L2D
IMHO - Ron Paul is the only one who can get the country back to 'real'. We haven't had 'real' for many administrations. This country is no longer about the People, it is about how both parties can use the People. You can condescendingly snipe with 'get real', when you should instead be promoting the best interest of the entire country by questioning 'got liberty'?
Santorum - Luring in Mud Votes from Mississippi & Alabama, now they have their DNA on "WEIRD"
This whole thing is a little scary for moderates.
A little?
Being a militant moderate it gives me something to fight for.
CONSERVATIVES ARE SMART. It’s the Tea Party that is s t u p i d.
The Tea Party will vote for H i t l e r if he was a candidate because he is white and he’s not Obama.
Why do you think that Obama cleaned McCain’s clock?
Also, may I add, If not for the intervention of the Republican Supreme Court, Bush would not have been elected to his first term. Conservatives didn't want him.
When conservatives vote, they know a piece of s h i t when they see it. And all of these candidates fit this description.
Larry - look at history, not political rhetoric - Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin emulated FDR - not any republican or republican practices.
Larry are you speaking of obama??????????
DB
I see history was NOT your major, perhaps your weakest subject? That is the most misinformation on history that could be put in one sentence. How did you fair in bio sciences? That creationism just doesn't cut it at real Universties. Does it?
@ DB Akron
Benito Mussolini was a pioneer of the fascist party in Italy. The fascist movement was started in the 1920's by Italian Nationalists who gathered supporters who shared their hatred of the communists and non-Italian ethnicities in their country.
Adolf Hitler, as you probably know, was a Nazi, and though Nazi stood for "National Socialist German Workers Party," it too was fascist, and it built itself on hatred of communism and socialism, just as the fascists in Italy did.
This was one of the reasons why Italy and Germany became allies in the war, and why they thought Spain, which was becoming Fascist under Franco, would join them.
So, even if you think FDR and maybe all democrats are communists, that would put them at the exact opposite end of the spectrum from Mussolini and Hitler, and make them bitter enemies.
Coincidentally, just as political scientists place communism at the far left of the left wing, political scientists put fascism at the far right of the right wing.
Please learn facts before you spout incendiary nonsense that others will start quoting.
Yes Ann Arbor, University of Michigan. A lot of smart and educated folks graduated from there.
Go Blue!
Grandpa - Don't be a party pawn. Go America! Peace. Liberty. Sound Money. Ron Paul 2012!
larry--
i would vote colan powell any day....and for a door knob before a vote to obama. you are the racist
@DB .......What? I understand what you are getting at but I bet there are a bunch of things that Hitler did that Obama doesn't.....The implication is just CRAZY......Hitler and Stalin perverted power under the guise of shared wealth and then did evil with it. The swedish socialist governemnet (Not fascist = Hitler or communism = Stalin.....ie different forms of government) is not evil or killing jews or making war and FDR didn't either........So I really don't understand the reference and I must say that it is at best loosly and I mean very loosly connected......In a like all asians look the same way....Just madness.....If you do not understand the differense between Hitler/Stalin/FDR?Obama then you must have had history class in Mississippi.....lolz....Joke...joke....But really If you want I'll rewrite this in crayon.....
But who would be the REAL candidate? The rest of the GOP know that they are a splintered group, with no message besides, the same ole tax cuts and deregulation, oh and anyone but Obama! Pathetic!
hummingbird go fly away fly away......Seals & Crofts 1974.......
Ron Paul is the only consistent candidate. The others including obama have voted for Patriot Act and the NDAA which pretty much is attacking the constitution and our amendments.
Humm, too true. cowboy, that all you got? Jernel, consistently BatS@#t Crazy.
IMHO - Name calling and put downs define you. Ron Paul 2012!
Alim-2810059
Ron Paul is a racist, robber baron supporting, homophobic imp that believes in the gold standard.
Ron Paul 1912.
I try to look for the subtle things...like Hillary Clinton making a rare public speech that was political. She ripped the GOP for beating up on women...so..hmmm...Lets see,the GOP is at war with the women,and the numbers for Obama are waning a bit,so...OBAMA/CLINTON 2012 !! First woman VP !!!and then..First woman President !!! I LOVE HILLARY !!!! Take that you woman hating bunch of GOP PIGS !!!!! PROBE THAT !!!
talk about hating and pigs boy you have a lot of room to talk
okay, dial it down a notch Cowboy. I agree that getting Hillary as a VP would be a good choice, but no reason to put the cart before the horse
This is your lying sack of crap in the WH, Cowboy:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/12/Palin-ad-Obama
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/03/regulation-nation-new-study-finds-obama%E2%80%99s-regs-cost-46-billion
Yeah, the Obama administration thinks they are going to run against Palin - NOT. What they are trying to do is insure that she does not run or minimize her influence. I say Palin - don't stop encouraging them to think that!
Hillary is a woman?????????????
wow!!! whoda thought???
Honest Joe: You just proved Hillary's point. You right wing nuts want all women put down.
Sources are Breitbart and the Washington Examiner? Marvel comics and Bugs Bunny have greater credibility
Hilary put a lot of women down for allowing herself to be publicly disgraced multiple times as her hubby banged anything that could wear a skirt in the WH, but her. If she truly was such a strong woman she would have divorced his ass. She would have gotten a lot more women behind her if she did.
And lost a few women in the process, not all women believe divorce is the answer and if less people jumped instantly to the D word we might have a better world morality rep. Instead we have Gingrich doing great in the polls for some weird reason!!
You don't divorce a man for cheating, you kick his little a$$ and hold it over him for the rest of his life, especially if he wants to stay with you instead of the young babe. Hilary is now more famous than he was and SHE has a chance to run for POTUS after Obama, and I would vote for her, even though I am a conservative. Voted for Obama bc of his conservative views on issues I cared about. I stand corrected though! Bad me!! And now I will probably not get to vote for Ron Paul, so I may have to skip voting this year or do a write in and I really hate the thought of that! But I can not in good conscience vote for a man who says the borders are safe and I am close enough to the border to call him a liar. 'It just aint fittin, I tell ya, it just aint fittin' ;)
NO KIDDING!!
Hillary really is a woman??????
As I recall, these were two of the states that said they did not want to be part of the United States anymore. A lot of people died,, a lot of property was destroyed to keep them from going their own way. They have not gone along with the rest of the US in a consistent way ever since. Some of them probably don`t think the War between the States has actually ended. Just make a note of how their primaries turn out, and let it go at that.
Yet another post based on nothing but stereotypes and media perception. Let it go at that.
This is probably the most ignorant statement about the South I have heard this week. The Civil War was over 150 years ago....do you really think the people from Mississippi and Alabama really hold grudges about that? Do you think the country bumpkins here still cuss the North for taking "our slaves" away? Seriously, don't insult us with your dribble. Maybe it's the rest of the country that needs to let go of old baggage.
I am from Mississippi and I voted Ron Paul.
And again, the south is as mishandled just as African Americans are.
Christin,
YES. I went to college in the south (not the deep south) and being from the City of Chicago I got plenty of "yankee" heat and civil war crap thrown my way. I was surprised. Yes, it (bitterness) still exists there. It was strongest with alcohol in people's belly's but I held my own. :)
I lived in Virginia for a number of years. Not the DC suburbs and not Charlottesville but the real Va. "damnyankee" is all one word, and yes, the "War of Northern Aggression" is still alive in the minds of many people.
I lived in rural Georgia and rural South Carolina for a number of years. Having moved from Indiana, I know all too well how many in the south "truly" feel about anyone from the north. Heard it all too often. There may be citizens who have moved past the Civil War and slavery, but there are still quite a number who have not, mainly due to that type of attitude being passed down from generation to generation. It didn't even matter that my parents were both southerners and moved north before I was born. I even have some relatives from Tennessee and Alabama who still feel that way. Ignorance is difficult to cure.
Dan you should have felt right at home being that Indiana is the home of the modern Klan.....I LIVE in rural NC and people are still flying rebel flags..even in some major metro areas too....lol....talk about salty...so Ms Cristin I can only imagine what Mississippi is like...my "brother"...who happens to be a white guy told me not to come there...BAW HA AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AHHAHAHA HAHHA A AH AH @the deep south being tolerant.......didn't they drag a niccah in Texas not to long ago?...and the killers got a life sentence....so now these tubobs are living off tax dollars...unreal!
Cristin, I'm with you. A bunch of liberal bigots posting here. You'd think we all still worked in the cotton fields reading their posts! You got one who can't handle being called a "yankee" (how thin skinned can you be?), and another who thinks Texas is the Deep South. You can't make this stuff up....... better than Comedy Central.
Last I checked the racial tension and violence in the country is happening far away from the South. Los Angeles, Cincinnati, Chicago, Boston, New York are where I read the stories about horrible things being done to Blacks. Hell...... I lived in NY and they still separate neighborhoods by ethnicity (Puerto Rican, Italian, Irish, Jewish, Black, etc, etc). And you don't wander into the "wrong" neighborhood if you don't want to get mugged. And we are the ones who aren't racially tolerant?
Give me a break.
Jon Huntsman was on the Republican ballot....so I voted for him.
Alas, the only sane choice for the Republicans is gone...
Gary Johnson would have been the best candidate. A younger Ron Paul, but not as radical with some issues as Paul. That is why he wasn't allowed at any of the debates. That is why this election thing is a big fraud anymore. Anyobdy with truly different takes/ideas isn't allowed to play.
I think RP is just getting really ticked off that people are not seeing the downward spiral as clear as maybe we should. So perhaps his radical ideas are just coming from anger, but while I do see some of his ideas as mayhaps a little radical, there are still some fairly good common sense ideas in there and maybe if past/present congressmen had cared about us one iota they might have passed that balanced budget bill years ago when RP brought it out to vote. I mean not all of his proposed bills I would have agreed with but 75% is a good record for me.
In Ron Paul's defense, a broken clock is right twice every 24 hours.
So, becoming a broken clock would be an upgrade for you ?
IMHO must stand for : I Must Hate Often. I am looking for relevance in your comments but see only venom and intolerance. The article is about Rick Santorum's primary victories in Alabama and Mississippi. It was not an invitation to a liberal chat vine to see who could post the cutest tripe of the day.
Jim-1455434
..." I am looking for relevance in your comments but see only venom and intolerance"....
Step away from the mirror. Step away from the mirror.
Gee, I wonder why the intolerant always claim to be the victim of intolerance? Should anyone be suprised that a conservative is struggling with seeing relevance in things? Nope.
You know, Hitler could have used you on his PR campaign..
"Why are Jewish people so intolerant? Why is there always venom coming from them? There's a war on Nazism".....
Conservative tactics could have worked for any of the most disgusting people in world history.
Have a nice day.
Mitt eats grits y'all and his wife wears Daisy Dukes.
Are the trees the right height?
oneiron
The trees are the wrong hieght for him, but the cheese grits are the right temperature. or in his words Cheesy Grits. The only thing cheesy is Romney.
Dunno, Oneiron. You would have to ask Seamus because he had the highest vantage point on at least one trip surveying the landscape.
Romney was practicing for the days when "hosing certain people" would come back in style I guess so he tried it out on his dog.
The GOP platform aided by their candidates and controllers have managed to insult just about every cultural group in America. I for one as an independent, find these people a throw back to the 1970's. As a 54 year old, I am watching my younger siblings cope with the same issues of my parents day in the south.
I have no interest in returning to these cultural issue debates. The GOP has failed to address the economic, financial corruption and poor domestic policies that plagued the previous Bush years. Drawing on the passion of these cultural issues is their typical ploy in dealing with the unintelligent (poorer) voter.
After all, how else do you explain a poor white man voting for candidates that represent economic and social policies that are suited only for those of us making $250,000 plus per year!
Seems to me the comment on here by non-republicans are the real insulting ones, not the republicans, well, except Mitt maybe.
Seems to me the comment by DB is totally lacking in veritas.
go gop all the way new direction come nov
Yes! Completely out of any mainstream politics.
Yup, new direction--right over the edge of the earth. It is flat you know
When you don't have a compass, any direction is a new direction.
As long as Gingrich and Santorum are in the race, their votes are split and Romney continues to be the frontrunner. I don't see how either of them thinks they will be #2 as long as they are both in the race and there is no indication that they are getting out anytime soon, unless these two break a deal and one drops out and the other promises a cabinet position or a vp position. Interesting how this will pan out.
hypothetically, what happens if one drops out and endorses the other, including his delegates? Thats a real game-changer for Romney
Romney knows he would lose that one, even if he got Ron Paul to do the same. Newt/Santorum at the end of day will have over 50% of the Delegates combined. Romney knows that so he had to go south to try to take as many away as he can. It's really his only chance to close before the convention. Meanwhile Santorum quickly dispatched his wife and daughter to Hawaii to counter Romney's efforts. The question is was it to pick up more delegates or make Romney waste more funds.
Apparently didn't work DB - Romney got 45% of the vote in Hawaii. Santorum and Gingrich combined didn't get as much as he did.
Would someone explain why these two dopes (Newt & Rickey) are still in the race. Are they nuts or are do they crave the attention? Romney will be the nominee. That's a fact. You Republican voters need to back the most electable candidate to have even a sliver of a chance to win in November. By propping up these slugs and keeping them in the race, you're just blooding Mitt and giving the DNC all the ammo they need to win. I love it. Keep it up.
Who do you think is propping up Romney?
yes and yes. they are nuts and they do crave attention.
Agree oneiron. One was run out of the House years ago on ethics violations, the other lost his Senate seat years ago. They keep coming back for attention. They make Palin look like a real novice when it comes to attention addiction. Anything to get that attention high.
Alabama and Mississippi- better known as the the dung heap states-- will bring out all the the stink and smell that the republican party can offer. the so-called winner or winners of the primaries will rise to the top of the septic tank and clog the pipes.
I don't think they are dung heaps..misinformed racist entitlement dependant mooch states...Yes...dung heap...No
Other headlines in today's business section:
"Stocks soar as Fed sees signs of strength"
"Fed sees economy slowly brightening"
"Unemployment rate drops in 45 states"
Retail sales post best gains in 5 months"
I don't think it matters very much who Mr. Romney's main GOP competitors are. News like this is competition enough for whoever finally emerges as the Republican candidate. Barring some catastrophe, Mr. Obama will be unbeatable in November.
Let's hope so. It's looking good right now but there's a way to go. You know the Republicans will be doing all they can to subvert the economy for their gain. Right now, they're trying to blame gas prices on Obama, when only a real dope doesn't understand that presidents have zero control over the market price of oil.
The GOP will find someway to twist this too bluegrass.....they will lie, cheat whatever to win. they did it in 2000 and in 2004 - rove is a slimeball.....hopefully the women of this country will see the GOP for what it is and the middle class will rise up and say NO to the GNOP
Democrats are using women as Pawns. Creating fake victims.
Strong, independent women have no use for Democrats.
Paul.
Clue UP!
The events of the last few weeks are against you!
http://www.facebook.com/OneMillionWomenAgainstRushLimbaugh
http://calendar.diygr.org/2012/03/03/rush-limbaugh-attack-on-women/
Republicans have lost the female vote!!!
I'm a right-leaning moderate. And if most republicans are like Limbaugh, then I must be a liberal.
He's the type that makes people flee the republicans. You can't judge them for their extremists. The Dems got them too.
what MODERN democrat has said "Wel-Fare President" or "black people should demand jobs not wel-fare" or that Bush was a Scandinavian Nazi Sun Worshiper?...please enlighten us so
Awww, time for Mitt to make a deal with IRAN. Then he too can get elected with an October surprise or maybe contrived hostages. GOP stoops to everything.
Never say Obama will be unbeatable, under-estimate the power of stupid voters in large numbers who will believe the Faux Noise propaganda crappola that got this idiot gop controlled House and a whole lot of whacked out tea party controlled STATEHOUSES waging "wars on everyone from women to the unemployed". Also we now have a whole lot of voter ID laws working against the voter who will/often vote democratic and as seen in MS, that voter ID law THEY want passed was not hurried for this election but the state intends to make it so by the GENERAL election.
Any and ALL voters who support the President had better NOT stay home on election day or let the idiocy of the media eventually sway THEM as it did in the 2010 midterms.
cheese gritsssss!!!!!!!!!
Romney is cheating. He's offering free dentures to anyone who votes for him.
Republican-Americans are growing weary of presidential politics. We just want one person to cheer for. This is a failed strategy for winning the White House.
It's perfect! You wanna see what years of voting repub can get you? Take a look at the toothless, uneducated, living in barely a shack voters of Mississippi. Case in point.
I dunno Patty. Your makeup has that Green Acres look to it.
You look like one of those people who live on welfare and got three kids by different daddies just the kind of ignorant voter Obama likes.
Dou4 and TeeTRuth, where are YOUR faces before you knock on somebody else eh? Stop hiding behind those generic profiles and show YOUR lovely selves cowards. The person you attack also has the guts to use what appears to an actual NAME as compared to your made up "covers". Yup!!
yep, anybody who you dont like or voted for obama is on welfare. i know its a good line, but do you guys actually believe this $hit?
Believerof..
Yes. They ACTUALLY believe that sh!t. They also believe they're not racists and elitists.
Lets play the game, compare Obama to the anti-christ (Mitt).
Obama created 3.7 million jobs. The anti-christ bankrupted companies for profit, putting thousands of white people out of work. Also, as Governor his State was 47th in job creation.
Obama killed Osama. The ani-christ has no record on military command.
Obama is a Christian. The anti-christ is a Mormon. Mormons aren’t Christian.
Obama is black. The anti-christ is Mexican who pretends to be white.
Obama did what he has said. Then anti-christ flip flops on every issue.
Obama is a Democrat. The ant-christ pretends to be a Conservative.
the BP oil spill created more jobs than obama.
To be fair, Romney is not Mexican, his family fled to Mexico because they were being charged with polygamy. They stayed in their own community, like good cultists, and did not intermingle with the Mexican population, like good racists.
jo,
That comment, while it seems to be a poor attempt at humor, is patently false. The oil spill was a preventable accident that KILLED hundreds of thousands of jobs and businesses. But it's a joke to you isn't it? The BP oil spill could have been prevented if regulations, that are in place in every other industrialized nation on the planet, hadn't been snubbed by republican leadership. But they couldn't, in good conscience, require their bedmates (the oil industry) to install a $250,000 emergency shutoff valve.
As for jobs, our economy continues to improve, but you want so badly for the big bad black man to be gone, that you're actually ok with the country failing to achieve that end. Shame on you for putting politics over the well being of your country. You are the most anti-American scum. I'm only using republican standards when calling you anti-American scum. If you'll recall, it was the republicans that told us, during the Bush era, that if you ever disagree with the president, you hate America and love terrorists. So, jo, it would appear that not many hate America more than you do.
Can we put this whole "Mormons aren't Christians" thing to rest already? By definition Christians are those who believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, nothing more nothing less. Mormons believe in the teachings of Christ and are hence Christians. Anyone who adds any more conditions to the definition is gravely being misled and trying to redefine the only world-wide recognized simple definition. They do this because they for some reason or another feel threatened by things they do not understand. To call a Mormon non-Christian is to accuse Mormons of not believing in Christ. This is simply offensive to Mormons, which is probably another motive for those who try to redefine Christianity. There is a strong anti-mormon movement in this country, particularly on this newsvine, yet their motives baffle me. Come on people. You don't hear Mormons saying that anyone who doesn't share the Mormon beliefs is not Christian. Why is that? Because it isn't true. There are thousands of various ways to practice your Christian beliefs, but all share one thing in common, a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. Hence to be Christian is to share a belief in Jesus Christ with millions of people around the world who, although belong to varying Christian religions/churches, are all Christians nonetheless. In fact, isn't it un-Christlike to accuse someone who believes in Christ of not being Christian. Any Christian who tells a Mormon that they are not Christian is essentially telling them that they don't believe in Christ. One's belief in Christ is a personal matter. Who has the right to tell someone that they are lying about their own beliefs? Now, do Mormons have some beliefs that are unique? Sure, but to discount the entire religion based on a few misunderstood doctrines and say they are not Christian is absolute lunacy.
Larry is a bit confused. I'm not sure if he's a democrat or a far right-winger. For loving Christians, he sure hates them.
Furthermore Larry, you don't even know what an anti-Christ is. It is someone who claims to be Christ, except for Christ himself, or it is someone who opposes Christ and preaches that there is no Christ. Neither Obama or Romney have ever claimed to be Christ or preached that there is no Christ. Larry, you are one seriously troubled person to throw out such serious claims so loosely. I would think any true Christian would find your cavalier use of the term, anti-Christ, offensive.
Morons I mean Mormons are NOT Christians... the Muslims believe in Jesus too...just not like Christians do....and they(Mormons) think black people turn white when they go to heaven as their reward for being servants...LOL ...Christian indeed
Oh I am SO SICK of this religion crap already!!! Who gives a flying S--T what a candidate's RELIGION is as long as they're capable of the office they're trying to HOLD. We're not vying for POPE or whatever here. It's the PRESIDENT-Remember???!!! What is this OBSESSION with freaking RELIGION???!!!! Can we get to jobs, the economy, ending wars and making America better instead of worrying about what the next leader of the free world thinks of the "sky fairy"?
Republican Party in Alabama + Mississippi = white people
hey....it's OK to be white.
and it's OK to be Republican.
I'm betting it wouldn't be far off to assume that if jo were to complete that thought, we'd learn that she also believes it's not ok to not be white, and she thinks Jesus would be sad if you were anything but republican.
old, ignorant, toothless, single-wide, white people
honest joe
You are only half right...
In a recent poll in Mississppi 29% of respondents, said that inter-racial marriage should be illegal. I have a feeling that that 29% were all Republicons and voted for Santorum.
Mississippi is a majority democrat state.
Why on earth would anyone want Rick Santorum to be the next president? I don't know about the rest of you, but I am pretty sure he's the antichrist.
If anybody is the antichrist its Obama . Hes so far from being a Christian he makes the devil look saved.
You all need come back to Earth and grow a brain. The conversation you people are having is so idiotic it stumps all reason. Arguing over who is the Anti-christ? This is something out of medieval times and we're in 2012 folks. Come ON now, you can do this.
The article said it all, these two states are, "the heart of the modern republican party". I am the heart of the older republican party. the libertarian leaning, small government in your fiscal and personal life, republican party. I'm afraid that since the party got southernized and became controlled by the religious right, it is no longer the party of the true conservative, mind your own business, less intrusive government, privacy loving individual. It is dominated by the Perry's and the Gingrich's, people who want to use government to legislate morality. I'm not buying it and remain politically homeless
If people that are not rich were smart enough to really hear what repuublicans are saying I have no doubt that president Obama would get 99% of the vote in november.
AL, What you say is true. The Republicans have managed to appeal to the prejudices of the less educated members of society. They tell them the Democrats are Godless and want to take away their guns. These people vote against their economic interests out of a misguided belief that the GOP is the party of patriotism that will protect the white man from the darker invaders coming to change their way of life. So far, they've managed to pull this scam off. One day the people will wake up and realize they've been played. The simple truth is that the GOP establishment mocks these folks in the privacy of their country clubs.
http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-841520.htm
Those “Evil, Rich People” – are Democrats
From the, “you never hear about that from the media” file – Those “Evil, Rich
People” that Democrats are always wailing about are actually – Democrats.
In fact, the Top 4 on the list: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Larry
Ellison, Christy Walton are all Democrats. Together, they are worth $150 Billion
Dollars.
An analysis of the Top 20 Richest People in America (from
Forbes Top 100) reveals that a full 60% are actually Democrats. Furthermore, if
you eliminate the duplication caused by people from the same family being
included in that Top 20 list (Wal-Mart & Koch) that ratio widens even
further to:
25% Republican / 75% Democrat.
in an effort and show of respect to all of those who support president
obama all business leaders should consider when reducing their work force to
eliminate those that support obama and this administration first.
after all it is unemployment benefits that boost the economy
and it is taxing the rich that boost the economy
and instituting obamacare that boost the economy
by firing or laying of supporters of obama first you are helping them to do
what they really believe in.
new campaign.
FIRE OBAMA SUPPORTERS FIRST.
HELP THEM TO REALIZE THE DREAM.
GOP==guns, oil, piety
DishonestJo is either a Repug TROLL or a brainwashed lemming. It's time you slap yourself around and wake up from that GOPer stupor. You're making an embarassament of yourself with all the B.S. you are spewing.
honest jo is both.
honest jo is not honest.
Santorum just proved all four of these clowns belong in a Sanatorium.
Puerto Rico? WTF?
And Obama belongs in prison for crimes against the Constitution.
Crimes against a piece of paper? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dishonest jo
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
You can fool all of the people some of the time,
But, ...
Top Ten States with the Highest Obesity Rates
1. West Virginia: 34.3 percent
2. Delaware: 33.6 percent
3. Mississippi: 32.1 percent
4. Louisiana: 31.2 percent
5. South Carolina: 30.6 percent
6. Indiana: 30.5 percent
7. North Dakota: 30.2 percent
8. Oklahoma: 30.2 percent
9. Kentucky: 29.9 percent
10. Ohio: 29.0 percent
Read more: http://www.naturalhomeandgarden.com/natural-health/top-10-least-and-most-obese-states-america.aspx#ixzz1p5n49L2D
And your point IS? Oh, there isn't one as usual. Sorry I asked.