Beachbum - There will be no sacrificial lamb. When the Dems attacked each other in the past election, even Billy Bob Clinton, who said very vile things about Obama, rallied around the Dem candidate. The GOP won't be any different.

Beachbum - If you want to compare the 2012 Gop primaries, you need to compare them to the dems in 2004, not 2008. In 2004, the Dems, were very passionate about knocking Bush out of office. The reason they didn't, is because they weren't passionate about their candidate (Kerry).

This is what I see this year with the GOP. Their whole rallying cry is ABO ABO ABO, however, the poles are showing that there is little passion with regard to their own candidates. That situation is a sure loser no matter which republican runs in the Nov.

Change your name again... try a new technique...you can't post the same lies over and over on different pages under different names... Obviously you fear honesty, morals, and convictions... and I'm not just talking about a Presidential candidate.

Oh no -- this primary needs to keep going. We still have a few Americans who actually think these Republicans candidates have some real solutions to real problems. Give flip flop Mitt, flip-flop pontificating scum-bag Newt, religious hate monger Santorum and and Doc Paul another 2 months and the most entire nation will realize what a collection of clowns this Republican filed is.

Keep these GOP primaries going!!!!

Sincerely,

The Jolly Time Popcorn Company

... which coincidently, is the only significant jobs programs the GOP has provided since the 2010 election

Meanwhile none of you are being told about the standoff at Wanblee SD where the Lakota Nation is being denied the rights to their reservation borders in order to allow XL Pipline Reps to start working in there. It's happening right now. Lakota People have been arrested. State Troopers first sided with the Indians due to their knowledge of reservation law. Then the reps claimed they had authority that trumped law. Something they had convinced the police....hmmmmm.....wonder what it is? XL Pipeline expansion, another Bush era timebomb set to go off on the 99% as soon as the moles inside can make it so......

The GOP Clown Carnival Continues on STUPID TUESDAY

Have you every seen such a bunch of losers in your life?

Mittens Rob-us-blind Flip Flop, the 1%'er actually 0.006% CORPERTE RAIDER and one time governor of Liberal Mass but now he is an arch conservative. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues.

He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;

His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped. Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering and boot licking to the tea party.

Mitt Flip-Flop Rob-us-blind, a wishy-washy, flip flopping spineless politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another. You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.

Mitt Flip Flop Romney LMAO

What I still don't get and maybe some of you Republicans can help me out is, how is returning to Bush's tax plan (Trickle down economics) going to improve the economy or create jobs?

Who do the republicans get their talking points from?
"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests.
It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality.
Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.
We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press -- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."
-- Adolf Hitler
So republicans, who's wearing the funny mustache now?
Everyone who understands how the GOP IS the fascist party please repost this ad nauseum. The voting public needs to be educated to exactly who they would be voting for.
Thank you.

There will be no sacrificial lamb. When the Dems attacked each other in the past election, even Billy Bob Clinton, who said very vile things about Obama, rallied around the Dem candidate. The GOP won't be any different.

But there is a huge difference here - the Republican candidates are all losers! Let's look at the frontrunners:

Mitt Romney - the last political position he held was Governor of Ma. He was the last of 4 Republican governors of Ma. He only served 1 term. He didn't run for the second term because he only had an approval rating of 30%! He trailed every opponent in the upcoming election by double digits in the polls so he didn't even run for re-election in 2006.

Rick Santorum - the last political position he held was Senator for Pa. He lost the seat in 2006 amid a controversy over Pa taxpayers paying for his kids' on-line schooling even though he lived in Virginia. He lost with the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent senator since 1980.

Newt Gingrich - the last political post he held was Representative and Speaker of the House. Amid a controversy that included 84 ethics violations, Gingrich was hounded out of the HR by his own Republican party in 1998.

If the GOP really wanted Republicans to rally around the final candidate, then perhaps they should considered running somebody besides these losers! LOL!

Amazing - thanks for finding that quote. Sounds strangely like one person we've been hearing lately. Reminds me of this quote by Sinclair Lewis: "When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross".

@ArmyWife70 - Beautiful. Sums things up quite well.

Beachbum - If you want to compare the 2012 Gop primaries, you need to compare them to the dems in 2004, not 2008. In 2004, the Dems, were very passionate about knocking Bush out of office. The reason they didn't, is because they weren't passionate about their candidate (Kerry).

GT .. you got that right. Your comparison to the failed 2004 is spot on. That is one election the democrats should have won and did an epic fail, and what we see today is the rebound of that campaign.

Another day, another Republican alienating voters, the question remains is this, WHO is voting for these clowns?

If you vote Republican and are not a millionaire, you are voting against your financial interests.

That tiny Republican clown car for the 2012 nomination once held ten. Six have been pushed or pulled out. One remains in the passenger seat and three still crowd in the tiny driver's seat. It truly has been a three ring circus with the clown car providing most of the entertainment.

A united GOP effort would have settled long ago on a single driver if not for distaste of all of the their own clowns. The American electorate has long been amused to the point of boredom and mistrust in whomever survives. The final survivor will be so cannibalized by his own party that the stubs of his chewed up arms and legs force him to lose control as he finally remains alone at the wheel. The grand finally promises to be a crash and burn to light up the night skies. The American people will breath a collective sigh of relief that this comedic tragedy is behind us. At least, until 2016.

Don't despair about running out of Saturday Night Live comedy material. Republicans have a lot more comedy acts in the works. Some billionaire will come out of the woods with a new body to parade around. Somebody buy Ron Paul a pony, a train set and a new baseball glove so he can go play. We need to buy Sen McCain the toy game "Battleship" so he can go play with Ron Paul. Romney needs a coonskin cap and singing lessons, a heart, some courage, and a brain. Newt wants another wife, keep a watch to see if his present wife has a cough or sneeze, then she is a gonner. Santorum wants a pointy hat like the pope has that he can wear in a parade. Trump will run for president with Gary Bussey as v. p.

That tiny Republican clown car for the 2012 nomination once held ten. Six have been pushed or pulled out. One remains in the passenger seat and three still crowd in the tiny driver's seat. It truly has been a three ring circus with the clown car providing most of the entertainment.

A united GOP effort would have settled long ago on a single driver if not for distaste of all of the their own clowns. The American electorate has long been amused to the point of boredom and mistrust in whomever survives. The final survivor will be so cannibalized by his own party that the stubs of his chewed up arms and legs forces him to lose control as he finally remains alone at the wheel. The grand finally promises to be a crash and burn to light up the night skies. The American people will breath a collective sigh that this comedic tragedy is behind us. At least, until 2016.

Knock knock... Who's there? Who cares he's toast in November. On the up side though the righties can lose their minds for another four years and I get to watch. O_o

I hope you never change!!!!!!!! LMAO.................

BeachBum12: You are right, people are not as stupid as they were four years ago. In fact, they are not as stupid as the were eight and twelve years ago when we accidently put that Rupublican in office. And it is people getting wiser that will keep any of the present Republicans from winning in November.

Thank God we are getting smarter.

And about the Republicans talking about Obama's failures; good luck with that. That would be like a chimpanzee accusing George Clooney of being ugly and crude and a failure in his profession.

ahhhh...once again an ultra lefty shows his maturity level.

Republican debates over Obama mandates.

Joe demarco....

The better question would be... Why is obama wanting to promote trickle down economics? Obviously he thinks it works.

Obama does not believe in trickle down economics. It will be fun watching Obama humiliate whichever of these BUFFOONS gets the GOP nomination.I predict Obama winning by a margin of no less than 25%

It's really sad watching the GOP candidates without a chance in heck winning the nomination, living in denial and hurting the GOP chances. These candidates are so busy attacking each other, they have lost focus on the real issue here, Obama....

Obama has hurt this nation as no other President. Obama has added 7+ Trillion to our national debt in just three years.. No other President (Republican or Democrat) has come close to that in two terms! Unemployment is a joke, the real unemployment rate is close to 15% (Obama isn't counting the people who have given up looking for work or accepted 15 hour a week jobs, because that's all they could find). Obama is the first President to sue a state for enforcing Constitutional Laws, which as President, he wouldn't enforce. Obama has mocked public displays of Christianity as no other President. We have the 2nd largest Oil/Gas reserve in the world and yet our gas prices are well over $4.00 per gallon heading toward $5.00 per gallon; and Obama won't release any gas or allow the pipeline to come in through Canada to help out. Obama has forced mandated Obamacare down our throats when 2/3 of Americans don't want it and struggling employers with more than 50 employees will face it. What's that going to do to unemployment percentages? Home foreclosures are still high, American jobs are still overseas and Obama bows to leaders of other countries.

No, the GOP has much to deal with, instead of keeping their eye on the ball, they are fighting amongst themselves. The GOP candidates without a real shot at the nomination need to grow up and bow out. In essence, these GOP candidates are taking the focus off Obama, which is exactly what the guy wants!

Ronz ..and if nobody gets the required 1100 or so delegates it goes to the convention and the republicans won't get an official nominee until septemeber 1st. Which would up BO's reelection chances tremendously. One would think if they realized how they were hurting their own party they would bow out. They all say they are going all the way to the end, as i suppose they should say it, but i imagine before long we may get at least one drop out. My guess is Newt out first.

Even when mitt do win what is his line of attack?

Oh Oh Oh Oh I know;

"The President has failed America" - Not but the republican alternative is equivalent to a Nuke

"The President is not Leading" - Not just ask all the dead terrorist is he leading. Yes with a bullet.

"The Economy is not getting better fast" - Not like if you were in office giving millions to rich people we would have a zero unemployment rate. No the unemployment rate would be a disaster in epic proportions.

N O W F O R P R E S I D E N T O B A M A A T T A C K S

The Republicans would privatize social security

The Republicans would eliminate medicare

The Republican Tax plan would continue the bush tax cut plus give them another tax cut

The Republicans want to tax the poor

The Republicans want to tell women when and what to do with their bodies

The Republicans would eliminate grants, public schools and colleges

The Republicans will turn this nation in to a nation run by corporations = Fascism

If you don't believe me vote Republican come November. Then ask your elderly grandmother how is everything going?

@Ronzwyf,

So you think because of the potential of $5.00 gas price. President Obama is controlling the price of oil.

WTF do you think he is a dictator? Don't answer that questions you num skull.

Now for the FACT: Oil Exploration in the United States has DOUBLED in the pass THREE YEARS.

Can I say that any louder. DOUBLED.

Here is the stupid kicker. That oil which is extracted from the United States does not stay in the United States those oil companies "Koch Brothers" take all that oil and sell in on the world market.

How is that Fact kicking you right square in the teeth. You talking right wing nut job head.

Ronzwyf:

Clinton balanced the budget. Bush took the budget and obliterated it with 2 wars, one of which was completely unfounded, and the other of which was unsuccessful because all the resources were diverted to the failed war in Iraq. Obama inherited these two wars, and has since drawn them down, all where accomplishing the ORIGINAL goal of the Afghan war and putting a cap in OBL.

Despite your Fox News spin on the economy, you are competely mislead. Nearly every economist is on the same page, the economy is improving, despite all GOP efforts to stop the current administrations plans to improve it (which have been working). There is no war on Christianity, you are deluded. There is a movement to protect every American from living in a Religious State - if you want a Religious State, move to Afghanistan or Iran, see how well it works for you living in a place where the rules of separation of church and state don't apply.

You cite home foreclosures. Perhaps you need a history lesson. Your boy Bush allowed for a complete lack of oversight of banks and corporations. Thus, a false housing bubble was created when banks lent money to underqualified homeowners to overvalued homes at 3% down on an ARM. When people couldn't afford their mortgages and banks foreclosed, the homes weren't worth the value of the paper the lein was printed on. That's what happens when you let capitalism run free with no oversight.

You also need a lesson on how gas prices work. It is a commodity. The only way a President can truly affect prices is by reaction to geopolitical situations. Say, for example, a President were to start an unnecessary war in a country like Iraq. That might drive prices up to, say, $4.11 per gallon on 2008? But it's a commodity as well, so when the economy collapses, like say towards the end of Bush's illustrious career, gas prices fall. What you fail to realize about the pipeline is that we ALREADY IMPORT 98.3% of Canada's oil. Yes, you read that right, you can use the internet yourself to back up that FACT. Further, the pipeline will actually provide Canadian's (a FOREIGN COUNTRY, more FOREIGN OIL) with better access to refineries on the gulf coast, which makes them able to compete with OPEC, a fact which oil speculators say will allow them to CHARGE MORE FOR THEIR OIL THEN THEY CURRENTLY DO. All the pipeline will do is drop the price of oil a few bucks a barrel for a few days after it is announced and in 5 years when it's done, see the price at the pump skyrocket.

Let's see, where else can I destroy you? Oh yeah, how about trickle down economics? The GOP thought process is that we better not touch Mitt Romney's 15% tax on capital gains, because we want him to invest his money stateside. Well, who does he invest his money with? How about Exxon-Mobil, perhaps Clearchannel, or maybe Time-Warner, or Microsoft, GM, GE, etc. What you fail to realize is that the economy is driven by the consumer. I don't care how much money rich people invest in these corporations, the ECONOMY WILL FAIL IF THE CONSUMER IS NOT SPENDING. I am the consumer. The middle class are the consumers. WE DRIVE THE ECONOMY. I paid an effective 18% in Federal Tax in 2011. If you put me an Romney on a similar tax level, I would have had an extra $3,000 with my federal return. I would have taken that money and maybe fixed my sagging front porch, or perhaps taken a vacation to Miami with my girlfriend. I would have have PUT IT BACK INTO THE CONSUMER ECONOMY. What does Mitt do with the extra $3M he has from his lower tax rate? He puts it back in the bank, in his hedge funds. THAT'S THE REASON THE ECONOMY COLLAPSED.

Romney says he will lower taxes for the middle class. Read the fine print. He just may do so, he may lower the percentage of the bracket I'm in, but the money has to come from somewhere, right? Well, he plans to put caps on, and eliminate tax deductions. Of course, there will be no cap on deductions for charity. You know where those caps will be? On common deductions that the middle class needs: mortgage tax, property tax limits, medical expenses, etc. Read up on this stuff my friend, it's all true. In the end, he will keep paying his 15% or less, and I will keep paying way above him, and probably even higher since I live in a state with a high cost of living.

I suppose you want all-out war with Iran and Syria? How do you think that will affect gas prices?

I suppose you oppose abortion. Well, all I can say is, I hope someone close to you gets raped by a minority (pick your least favorite since I'm sure you're racist) and she has to keep the kid.

I suppose you hate gay people. I hope you have a gay son and you can treat him like garbage.

I suppose you hate illegal immigrants. Maybe you can kick them out and take over their much-sought-after jobs as dishwashers at Chili's or landscape day laborers.

Have a good one, buddy.

Great history lesson...

How much money did you make to pay 18%? My wife and I made $66,000 taxable last year and paid an effective rate of 7.4%. You may want to hire someone to do your taxes because there is no reason you should be paying that much after tax returns with all of the deductions and credits people can take advantage of. Personally, I would rather just pay taxes in and get no tax return, but I am going to take all the money I can while they let me.

Capital One, Netflix and United Healthcare are still sponsoring Limbaugh - we have more work to do!

I'm enjoying the circus............... keep it going.

Oh yes.

The losers the GOP is desperately propping up as potential candidates are so pathetic they make the characters on Jersey Shore looks like Princeton post-grads.

The price of gasoline was $1.84 when Obama took office. It is now approaching $5 per gallon. With the amount of gasoline Americans use, that's an additional $240 Billion per year out of the family budgets ($2.4 Trillion over 10 years).

If you think families are struggling now under Obama, just wait until this starts to hit home in higher utility and food bills.

Congratulations on that "Change we can believe in" that you voted for. Question - "Can we afford four more years of Obama?".

TO: Justified Defiance who wrote:

"The price of gasoline was $1.84 when Obama took office. It is now approaching $5 per gallon..."

I don't recall what the price was THEN, but I know we were trying to choose between stopping to get gas, or stopping to get groceries.

AND we know who controls the Oil (Republicans) and we know who controls the OIL MARKET (the wealthy).

President Obama has done so well for the American People, the ONLY way Republicans could do to TRY to hurt the President was to raise gas prices because that's what Republicans control.

If you don't believe that the American People are very well aware of Republican pranks, you just watch what happens in November! Democratic White House, Democratic House of Representatives and Democratic Senate!

Obama / Biden 2012

Just Def,

Who was president when gas reached it's highest price in the past, say, 20 years. (National average of 4.56 in the summer of 2008 with some areas going over $5.00 a gallon.)

The President of the United States cannot control the short term price of gas at the pump. Not this one, not that one, and not the next one.

AND we know who controls the Oil (Republicans)

Please, explain to us how the Republicans control the price of oil.

American Girl,

April 21, 2011

Obama team to probe oil market manipulation

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Thursday the U.S. attorney general was assembling a team to root out any fraud and manipulation in the oil markets that might be contributing to higher U.S. gasoline prices.

Earlier, the Justice Department announced the working group, which will include representatives from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the Federal Trade Commission, the Federal Reserve Board, the Securities and Exchange Commission, as well as the Departments of Agriculture, Energy, Justice and Treasury.

Rising fuel costs have raised concerns about the strain on the economic recovery, with U.S. gasoline prices now averaging over $3.80 a gallon. Fuel costs that soared to over $4 a gallon in 2008 set off public outcry in the United States and caused motorists to scale back driving.

Almost a year ago, and here we are again. So what happen?

I guess the oil companies are even trying to get Obama out in their own way ....

You hit the nail right on the head, bigbenalaska. The oil companies did the same thing when Clinton was running for re-election in '96, and again to give Dumbya a boost in 2000.

The oil companies have never cared one iota for the effect their manipulation of the markets has on the pocketbooks of Americans.

But don't worry- the Republican candidates will have solutions:

Santorum- God put the oil there, he'll put in some more.

Romney- I'm not worried about the very rich- they can afford $6 a gallon. And I'm not worried about the very poor- they don't have cars anyway.

theotos - a lot happened. We got the bill for chasing a carboard figuring called evil corporations. A lot of Bureaucrats that make several times more money got to look useful.

I think Big finance was even better. The whole reason the Administration got the concessions was because there was almost no evidence of them doing anything other than what the Fed wanted, but companies are plenty willing to pay big bucks to keep their names from being drug through the mud over near baseless charges.

Regarding the Jersey Shore comment above, I'd vote for Snooki for President, or perhaps the "Situation" before I'd vote for any of the Republican candidates. Sad and pathetic indeed.

American girl....

AND we know who controls the Oil (Republicans) and we know who controls the OIL MARKET (the wealthy).

We also know that oil is produced globally and sold globally in US dollars. Fascinating on how you think republicans are everywhere... Saudi arabia, china, africa, south america, etc, etc. Yes the wealthy do exists on a global basis, so what? They are not the ones that create demand.

grandall,

I think both the reps and the dems give us political fluffers, front-men and drug smugglers for presidential candidates. Both parties need to be abandoned and dumped and candidates from the various 3rd parties voted in- people who haven't been compromised by the CIA or someone else to ensure a "proper" vote when "necessary". We need a bare minimum of 4 parties in Congress to keep things there honest. In the Oval Office we need someone with the balls to disband the CIA and our KGB..oops Dept. of Homeland Security- and soon.

Justified Defiance

When gasoline prices spiked during the Bush administration, I recall being told by the republican congress, that congress and the president had very little control over the price of oil or gas. Oil on the world's market was beyond the control of the federal government. Gee, I wonder what has changed since then?

Justified Defiance....The reason gas was cheaper then was because Bush had the country headed toward a depression.

american-2051576.....Recent gas price increases are not fueled by supply demand, they are fueled by fears of future supply disruptions . There is a surplus of oil and gas right now, there is concern about future Iran issues and other world tensions.

When Obama took office, the price of gas was over 3.50 per gallon. Now it's just under 4 dollars per gallon. Facts = Important. You don't get to make those up. Where the heck did 1.84/5 dollars come from? Stop believing everything you get in emails.

The whole gas price argument is just the latest in the desperate Republican's attempt to unseat Obama.

Good luck, guys, Americans know the President doesn't control gas prices. We are not the stupid oxen you believe we are.

Obama will win by a land slide in 2012.

Whats stupid is believing Obama will win by a landslide (if Santorum is the nominee, then yes but i highly doubt he will). I voted for him but sure as hell not this time around. What has he done for Americans? How bout extended the Patriot Act and signed the NDAA; pffft, very "American" to continue to erode our rights. DID NOT bring our troops home prior to BUSH's time line. Its funny how libs talk about Repubs and Fox when Libs believe everything MSNBC, CNN, and the rest of the liberal media puts out!

Independent here and a US Army Vet...We are all screwed.

Amen Capt Tripps! Facts are important things. A quick google check confirms what you said that, well wait a minute, gas average for January 2009 was indeed $1.85. From a quick google of gasbuddy and a few more places to verify.

It's true Presidents usually get too much blame for gas prices. Although with BO shutting down Keystone, dropping permits way down, canceling east coast auctions the perception will be there when someone fills up and pays $80. Politics is mostly about perception.

We even have a local pool of when BO will approve Keystone before the election for that very reason. My guess is Sept 1. He will keep it denied long enough to rally the "green" faction of the party and get their money and then approve it to take away Republican talking points. Politics at its finest, watch and see :-)

@Justified Defiance,

You expect 312 Million people to believe after what happen to our economy a Repuke in office will make the price of gas go down the day he is elected?

Either you have been home schooled or you have been home schooled.

@BigATC,

And what you wouldn't do that if you were President to get re-elected. Hell Yeah You Would.

That's politics add not subtract.

The Keystone pipe line would create 10,000 at best and have a 50% potential rate of spill. If I have President I would approve it to take away the taking points then back track for the safe of the populations. F the oil compaines and Harald Ford the oil hack. Let's find a way the get the F off oil period.

Our president has done a great deal to alienate other world leaders, at worst, and at best, to convince them that he is indecisive in his responses, at best. Given that scenerio, and given that oil is a worldwide commodity, isn't it also possible that the other nations are messing with the production, supply, demand, and price to insure that Obama is not re-elected. If we accept the assumption that gas prices are affected by perceptions of future stability, and our present administration is not seen as providing that stability, then isn't it in the interest of the world community to affect American attitudes through the futures market, particularly in oil and fuels. Why does it necessarily have to be a plot by big business, big oil, the Republicans....when throughout these threads, it is constantly being asserted that no one person, or even one entity dictates the price of oil

Take your meds Sue.

Merely looking at the issue from a different angle and in light of the assertions of the people in this very thread who contend that our President cannot be held accountable for the price of oil, and if that be true in any sense, we have to look for alternative explanations. And as not all oil is in US territory, nor is all oil controlled by US policy, then we do have to factor in the possiblity that in a global market, global forces are at work. The agenda of the Saudis would not necessarily mirror the agenda of our country. One has to speculate how the Saudi's might feel about how our foreign and domestic policies affect them.

weeme - guess you missed out on pelosi and obama wanting bush2 to do something in 2008. What goes around comes around.

Fascinating that obama is once again going to look into the speculation issue (todays press conference) just like he looked into it last year. Looks like he thinks he can do something.

This is by far the most intelligent and funny conversation I've ever read on MSNBC comments. It thoroughly redeemed an evening of having to listen to speeches by Republican candidates. Thank you for all the info and great humor.

I did look at gas buddy for the last 6 years. Gas prices were at a all time high of $4.12 in July of 2008. In a period of 5 months gas price dropped to 1.61 of December 2008. I think we are getting hustled, what happen during those 5 months that made the price so low?

the world economy crashed under a republican watch.

Currently, they are trying to remedy it by getting back into power so they can crash it again.

I think I am done with all this nonsense.

Between the Republican primary idiots and Rush the junkie running his yap, a Democratic landslide just may happen.

They only thing the GOP primary race is going to accomplish is to designate which bumbling oaf is going to be crushed by President Obama in November.

We need 20 or so more republican debates. I just can't seem to figure out which one to vote for in... no wait, I do know which ones I could vote for. None of them. But we do need about 20 more republican debates.

After watching the last eight or ten of these debacles, I think the GOP debates would gain a measure of dignity and decorum if they just handed cans of Silly String to the contenders and let them duke it out that way. Certainly, every time they open their mouths they embarrass themselves and humiliate the Republican Party, so letting these losers talk is not working. Water balloons would be a nice touch, too.

I stand by my previous statements on similar articles; this isn't Romney's first Presidential campaign, so the idea that this is now "sharpening him as a candidate" is absolutely ridiculous.

I wish those who are interviewing the people using that lame excuse would corner them and ask in what ways he has improved as a candidate this election season. I'm not seeing it. He has always been the real frontrunner, and, even with fewer remaining candidates, has favorability polling around the same as when this primary started - 36%.

PRIMARY!?! Oh crap ... I thought it was just another one of those reality shows.

@Sailcat - excellent ideas, but if you like old-school, and we know the GOP is all about old-school (or no-school if Santorum has his way), then you just can't beat big red floppy shoes and seltzer bottles as standard issue for the next debate.

Quite right, node4.

The republicans will know what their endgame looks like after tomorrow. Tah dahh! Presenting "Willard, um, Mittens Romney". Gingrich wins Georgia. That's all. Santorum could take Tennessee but probably won't. The fix is being affixed there for Romney. Fix is being prepared in Ohio as well. Romney will squeak by there. Santorum will not win anymore. May be allowed to run close, but that's about it. Newt will likely be allowed a close second to Romney in both Alabama and Mississippi, then He's done. The old rich crazy in Vegas is done with Newt as well. It is time now for "Norquist" and the "tea partites" to take complete control of their Republican stooge. Alarms are everywhere among them. Emails, texts, phone calls,etc., declaring too many of their following are beginning to doubt the validity of their own insanity. Short time to reconvince so many the lights of reason they have glimpsed, were only aberrations made manifest by their own unchallenged musings.

I was never drawn to John Kerry personally but, he was an honorable, compassionate, intelligent and decent human being with a proven track record and I was proud to vote for him and even to send him a few dollars. I didn't in any way have to "hold my nose" to vote for him. It doesn't appear that any of the Republican Presidential candidates have the same advantage. Each of them has a relatively small base of true-believer fans and their appeal beyond that is tepid at best. I'm sure that Republican voters will vote for whichever one wins the nomination but I don't know that I have ever seen such a lack of enthusiasm. Having said that, I hope that Obama voters will never, ever become complacent or cocky, there is too much at stake.

@Karen C.: Well said Ma'am. Our Republic cannot long sustain the perverse petty shysting of republicanism. Regards

Before our very eyes:

Republicans keep searching the same manure pile because they "just know" that there is a pony in there somewhere!

Well said Karen. Dem's get out the Vote please.

..."I am the great OZ, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..."

Ursula-279622 Perfect analogy............

Ursula,

BAhahahahahahaha, Thank you! That just made my evening. Awesome analogy too!

Well, Ursala, I actually agree with you on the point of knowing the candidates.

Unfortunately, that did NOT happen last time out. We had a candidate who described himself as a "blank screen". His speeches were designed to allow the listener to infer what he or she desired- a lot of words that said absolutely nothing.

Look what we got.

I want specific actions described. I want to know how the republican candidate plans to undo all the Obama disasters. I already know how bad Obama is- I want to know the prescription that will cure the disease.

It took me a long time to get behind Romney- but I am, in fact, behind him. See, I've actually READ his economic plan. As to foreign policy- just, exactly, how much experience did Obama have? I mean, other than being the chairman of a subcommittee on Afghanistan that never met?

I would have been fine with Hillary- despite being for McCain. I don't believe there was a dimes worth of difference between them- I would have had just as many issues with a McCain presidency as a Hillary presidency- albeit, probably, on different issues.

Obama? He is a plain, flat out, disaster. In fact, he is far worse than I even feared he would be- take a look at the Middle East. Neither Hillary note McCain would have hesitated for a moment when warned what food shortages would do to the region- they'd have shipped grain, corn, and soy beans from our reserves to that region, and we'd have stability there. Obama? Too ignorant to even respond.

Now look at the region. Our allies are toppled. Save me the "you liked Mubarak?" trope. FDR was probably not Stalin's biggest fan- but he took him as an Allie. Reality means that, sometimes, the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

No one could have been worse that Obama.

Look at the debt. Neither Hillary nor McCain would have allowed it to skyrocket as it has under Obama. Moreover, neither would have even considered the amount of money going out under a Dollars to Donors program that Obama has overseen. Good lord- that amount of corruption would have gotten either of them impeached by now!

And, it's only just begun- he now has his good buddy and big dollar donor standing by to get billions for seaweed-to-fuel rat holes- over what he has already gleaned from the taxpayers.

It just never ends.

So, yes, I'm pretty happy that the GOP candidate is well vetted- something that never happened with Obama. Funny thing- the DNC has had quite a lot of cooperation from the media in pushing ne candidate after another ahead of Romney- because he's the candidate Obama feared most- and all it has managed to accomplish?

All the "blow ups" have already happened. Old news. Nothing to see here. Heard it- didn't care.

All adds up to

Obama shelved in 2012.

What issues??? All I know about the republican's so-called issues are:

Criminalize birth control.

Cut taxes.

Increase corporate subsidies.

Cut worker pay.

Defund Planned Parenthood.

Corporations are people too.

And, if you want insurance to cover contraception, you must be a slut or a prostitute.

That's about all the issues I can remember.

no joe... : Really? What did you do, visit a parallel universe in which Clinton or McCain was elected?

In case you didn't notice, we just got out of a situation in a little country called Iraq that turned into a deathtrap for our troops and a money pit. Obama simply realized that there is no good way to get involved in that region. They hate us if we don't help them, they hate us if we do.

As to sending food in: did you forget the horrible rhetoric aimed at President Clinton, all from the right, when he sent food in to Somalia?

As to the economy- it took FDR 9 years and a war to get us out of the mess that Hoover got us into, and Hoover only had 4 years to dig his hole. He also didn't have a money pit in the middle east to throw government dollars into like Dumbya did.

Nope, President Obama has to be reelected if our country stands any chance at all to recover from the 8 years we suffered under the worst president this country has ever seen.

@Bosslimo: you forgot;

Cut taxes for the wealthy

Defund scientific research; especially if it relates to climate or environmental studies

Cut taxes for the wealthy

Reduce separation of church and state

Cut taxes for the wealthy

... that's all I can remember for now, but I know there was something else about taxes ....

Bosslimo

Criminalize birth control.

Your in the deep end of the ridiculous pool.

And, if you want insurance to cover contraception, you must be a slut or a prostitute.

You only deal on an emotional level huh? Facts apparently don't matter. Which are don't force religious people to do thing their faith unless it is to stop murder, incest, rape, or Stealing.

@DB Akron- You really bought that that was a legit controversy?

That was fabricated out of whole cloth to give the tea baggers something to attack the President over. There was never any language in the law that called religious freedom into question.

If it had been a legitimate debate, don't you think at least one woman would have been allowed to testify before the committee? It was a bunch of hand-picked clergymen invited to come and whine about something that didn't even affect most of them.

Uh, Mike? You obviously suffer fromObama cult syndrome.

See, it was GHW Bush who got us involved in Somalia- something I adamantly opposed- but Clinton took the heat for abandoning our troops there.

It was a learning curve.

Perhaps you remember Kosovo? I do. I was against that involvement, too- which did not involve food aid-but it seems to have turned out all right. That was Clinton's initiative. Not Somalia.

As to the rest of your rant- Obma is informed by his own ego- and seems incapable of ever learning from his failures. In order to do so, one must, first, acknowledge that one has failed. Obama does not- he prefers to blame others.

I imagine thatHillary would have been a better president because her husband was a better president- and he would have been her chief advisor.

I guess the people left in the Obama cult have no ability to think objectively- nor are they able to posit "what might have been". Fine.

I suggest, though, that you practice up. You'll need to next year- when you have to form your "fantasy U.S. league". Cause, trust me,

Obama shelved in 2012.

No Joe:

I'm not arguing our differing viewpoints, but am interested in how you believe Obama will lose to Romney given Romney's consistent lack of enthusiasm from his own party. Romney is a Mormon, Republicans are generally Christian. That's the elephant in the room that no one talks about. Past that, Romney has trouble connecting with voters, and has a checkered political past that will be tough to debate Obama on.

I agree with you that he will win the nomination, but outside of Oprah Winfrey running as his VP and Jesus Christ returning to earth to help him with stump speeches, I'm not seeing him winning the general election. The support isn't there, and Obama's polling is only going up.

Putting every ounce of personal opinion aside, and only relying on statistics, polling, and common sense about the foundation of what Republican voters care about, I can't see Romney winning. Period. It will poll in the 45% - 55% range all the way to election day, but Obama will win.

Actually Joe, I do think that Hillary Clinton would have been a better president. I don't however think that Obama is to blame for the economy.

And when you consider that he has been faced with one of the most obstructionist Congresses in the history of this country, I don't really know what more he could have done. He hasn't proposed one single piece of legislation in any area that the republicans in both houses haven't either shot down out of hand or filibustered into oblivion.

Faced with those odds, what would you have him do? If he'd have tried to rule by Executive Order (a favorite tool of both FDR and Nixon), the tea baggers in Congress would have impeached him.

Do you blame him for oil prices too? If you say yes then I know you're just another wide-eyed FoxNews neophyte.

DB,

Rick Santorum has stated in every possible media for the last 10 years that if he gets the chance he does not just want Roe vs Wade overturned he wants all birth control criminalized. He wants Griswold v Connecticut and Einstadt v Baird overturned.

Thank you node4. I knew I left a bunch out. They have so many policy ideas, I can't remember them all. The newest one I can recall is 1st amendment rights are restricted to clergymen. Then, you reminded me of merging church and state where popes and televangalists can only be president.

DB Akron What religious organization owns an insurance company? That makes about as much sense as banning fries from McDonalds because it is against medical scientists' beliefs. Heck, you might as well make employees take permission slips to their bosses to get approved for medical assistance! Wait, they've tried that already.

And yet, the republican leaders march to the beat of freedom, as long as it is freedom for some.

I research - you don't - reading the news media spew doesn't count - and what a little, shallow world they promote!

The Catholic Church not only runs a multiple Universities, Elementary schools, Middle schools, Highs Schools, a couple of wineries, quite a number of Hospitals, Adoption agencies, a couple of investment businesses, a couple of computer services, and HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20100809/free/100809894/study-catholic-church-owned-hospital-systems-deliver-higher-quality-care#

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290950/should-it-be-illegal-be-catholic-health-insurance-ceo-ryan-t-anderson

BTW: I am not Catholic, but I will lose my individual health plan shortly after the HCL takes full effect.

@DB Akron,

Why would you lose it? Would it be cheaper for your company to pay the penalty for not providing it because more would come out of their pockets. So they pass it on but you can get some. The New HCL is planned to provide everyone with coverage and designed to get the cheaters out the system. Thus creating a universal effect of healthcare coverage. Wait and see the law is smart and will save the tax payers 500 billion or more.

Besides DB Akron you referenced a right wing blog

DB Akron

Cartels where deemed illegal. It seems they promoted a thing called monopolies. A monopoly would raise prices in unison, so everyone would have no choice but to pay that price. It eliminated the "competition" because competition didn't exist.

There are only two cartels legally operating in the United States. One is the petrolium market. Yes, that's the gas you buy or don't buy, depending on if it gets exported or not.

The second monopoly is health insurance. Are you trying to tell me that the church is involved in a monopoly? They are making a profit? Careful, you know churches are non-profit, right?

To overturn the legal precedents for the right of a woman to choose would require action by the Supreme Court and it would have to be based in Constitutional principals to merit the review by the Supreme Court, so please tell me how any Republican singly, or collectively is going to criminalize abortion? At present, the Supreme Court lineup leans to a very liberal viewpoint as our president has been able to make two appointments to fill vacancies with younger and more liberal justices...that trend will probably continue for many years to come as there is nothing other than death that compels a justice to step down. The Supreme Court would actually have to agree to the merit of reviewing the cases mentioned and justify that review in Constitutional law, and the justices can elect to sidestep the issue entirely and refuse to hear it.

Mike from AZ - The 2008 SOFA treaty defined when we would leave Iraq. The only way obama had anything to do with it was to ratify it (that is if he didn't just vote present). Nice try at wanting to change history to suit your agenda.

ROTFLMAO! The left thinks obama has done such a great job, yet despite all the republican wannabee missteps to date, obamas re-election chances are still marginal at best.

Solutions - taxpayers will save?? You do realize that starting (if I recall correctly) in 2013 that everyone who is provided health insurance coverage by their employer, will have the employer contribution considered as earned income. Your taxes are likely to increase, not decrease.

Yes, isn't that great?!

Dr. Paul has integrity and credibility--traits that the other three contenders lack. Integrity and credibility may count much more by November.

@ Matt, I don't disagree with you that RP is pushed to the 2nd or 4th page. But keep in mind that he was asked if he thought he could win. And he himself doesn't expect to win; he wants to stay in it to have a voice carving the republican platform agenda. That's it. He's not in it, to win it...but rather to steer the party bus.

He was also asked if he would run as a 3rd party candidate...three times in an interview. Finally, he responded with 'that's not my goal'. So as much as he's dismissed by the Republican party, he just may show up under another banner in November.

If he shows up without the Republican party, he won't win, but he'll split the vote so much that Obama's guaranteed a win.

We are trying to talk about serious candidates. Not the comic relief

When someone who actually believes in the Constitution is considered "comic relief" we are in serious trouble. Bush started the un-patriotic act, Obama keeps it going. Now citizens can be held indefinately without due process for any imagined threat of "terrorism". Both parties are equally to blame for allowing this insanity.

The only "republican" that could take the White House is Ron Paul,

Then why is he dead last in every poll??

Ron Paul is a Republican? Really? LOL Looks like Mitt isn't the only flip flopper on the stage.

Joanne,

Yes, they have! And have spent how many millons to tell all of us about every cultural issue under sun?

Best tea party season ever for the the Democrats .

Hey! As long as I have plenty of wine, let the games continue! (Note: Drinking does improve watching the show!)

PS Red wine for a primary and white wine for a caucus. Must be correct, you know! :)

I agree with everything you said. The only caution I have for you is not to get over-confident. Obama wouldn't be the first to lose an election because his base took his victory for granted and didn't turn out to vote.

Excellent summation. Do you get that from watching MSNBC or CNN? No, wait, John Stewart.

One question, are you better off now than 4 years ago?

#9.2

Well, lets see....

McCain wanted to bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran. His solution was to cut taxes to solve the Great Depression crisis. He now wants to bomb Syria. He wanted troops to stay in Iraq. At least he was honest enough to say he didn't know much about economics.

Under this president, The Great Depression didn't happen. We still have an auto industry with 1.6 million employed and climbing and one is #1 globally. The beloved stock market is back up to record highs. We went from losing 700,000 jobs a month to gaining 2,500+ jobs a month... consistantly. I now will be able to afford health insurance, you see... my company won't provide it.

And no shoes have been thrown at this president for liberating their country.

Yep, I'm better off today.

Why yes liar, I am much better of now than I was 4 years ago. Thanks for asking. Oh wait, you were doing what republicans do, you were trying to regurgitate old Regan BS. Seriously, are you just unable to live in the present?

Maybe the Great Depression didn't happen to your, or even in your community, but I am living it, as are many people I know, and we don't seem to qualify for any of the help and stimulus that our government has already spent and asks to spend more of. Thank you, but I don't need empty promises. I don't need to be told what is wrong we me and the way I view the world. I don't need somebody up there telling me to basically write off the American dream not only for myself, but my children as well, that we somehow have to pay the price for messes that were made without our consent and out of our control. How many people do you know that are homeless, without job and without transportation to even find a job? How many people do you know personally who have to make use of food banks to feed their family? Are you one of them? How many people are stuck in a situation where no matter how hard they work, it will not be rewarded, there will be no raise, just ever increasing work load and being told to be thankful that they have a job. That is the real BS. I now pay even more of my limited income for less insurance coverage and higher and higher co-payments and deductibles in the name of providing healthcare for all Americans (and a whole bunch who aren't American). It has reached a point that I am paying so much in premium that I don't have the cash to use the services and pay my share at point of service. I will take my chances with "evil big business" because at least I saw raises in income to offset the higher costs. Don't worry about green technology, because the American people cannot afford it. We can't afford to upgrade our homes because we can't get home improvement financing for those who still have their homes. We can't afford to buy green cars, because we cannot absorb a car payment. You can tell me how the government doesn't control the cost of oil, and that is true, but they do have control over the outrageous percentage of the price per gallon that goes to taxation, federal tax, state, county and sometimes even city. In some areas almost 50% of the per gallon cost is all taxes, and that is something that government can do something about, but they won't because it is a cash cow that they can spend to reward the good little sheeple who believe that government cares one iota about your life, health and wealth. They only care sufficiently to make people beholden enough to vote for them out of fear that what little they have will go away. Fear tactics are what the liberal thrive on....threats and perceived threats. The fear of social security, medicare, and medicaid being cut. The fear of education funding being cut. The fear that somebody isn't going to get their Viagra or contraception for free. The fear that somehow a woman's right to choose is going to be taken away (nonsensical in the extreme-that is the Supreme Court's province at this point, not the president) The fear that people will lose their unemployment, their section 8 vouchers, their free breakfasts and lunches.....it is all about threatening to take things away from people that fuels the liberal agenda.

Sue, paragraph breaks are your friend.

To the extent I can understand the point of your post at #9.5, it is that you're poor and since Obama hasn't made things better for you, personally, you're going to vote for a Republican and see if that helps.

A bigger example of ignoring modern history would be hard to find.

Since Reagan, tax cuts have always led to more money going to the richest of the rich and less income for the rest of us. And pushed to the extreme (i.e., George W. Bush), tax cuts coupled with two wars that we couldn't afford not only failed to create jobs, it pushed the economy off of a cliff. In other words, tax cuts won't fix this mess, tax cuts are part of what caused this mess.

And on the other hand, the economy under Obama has turned around.

If you, or we as a nation, make economic policy decisions that fly in the face of what we know, how can you possibly expect a good outcome?

The problem we have with our budget (or lack thereof) is not only an income problem, it is also a spending problem. And we wont solve all of our problems by only cutting defense spending, we need to look at entitlement programs as well.

McCain is running for POTUS? How droll.

RonB - Interesting, the public loves tax cuts, why even obama wants to give them or extend them. I am even fascinated by obama wanting to use trickle down economics again. And the left says it doesn't work, oh my, don't tell obama.

One thing for sure is that the obama (bush) tax cuts need to expire accross the board or at leats phased out before 2015.

American - I'm not sure what you mean by Obama wanting to use trickle-down economics again. As I understand this administration's tax policy, it has been unwilling to raise taxes on the middle class (hence keeping the Bush tax cuts for middle class taxpayers and keeping the current payroll tax holiday) and, while it proposes lowering the corporate tax rate, the proposal also includes closing some loopholes so that it would either be revenue neutral or result in a net increase in revenue.

The Bush tax cuts should never have been made, but they were and I agree that raising taxes on the middle class in this economy would not be a good idea.

But the greater part of Obama's economic policy is Keynesian, make no mistake.

Who gives a flying crap if Mitt Romney is Mormon or not? All that matters is if he can help this nation recover from its struggles and raises it back to the top. His religion has nothing to do with his integrity or how he responds under pressure. Remember the 1st Ammendment everybody.

In which case he won't be of any help to anyone except the top 1%. You're right in that his integrity (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with his religion.

Who cares if Romney is a Mormon. It has never seemed to matter before what religion a President has been. We have one now that is a muslim and sides with the muslims-he claims he is Christian-but he is not. He went to school in another country and became a muslim-I think a Mormon is better than muslim anyday. Obama is the biggest loser of all and I will vote for any candidate before voting for him. ROmney can run circles around Obama in the brain department. If people are so jealous of his success, then maybe it's time the ones who are putting him down get off their hineys and go to work. Mitt inherited money from his father and he gave it away and when he was governor he did not draw a salary at his request. I would like to know what other politician has ever done that to help his state or his country.

@Parker Long,

Yeah I remember the GOP calling President Obama a Muslim and 35% of the current GOP believes that - do you?

Funny how the republicans claim it doesn't matter what Romney's religion is, but attack Obama on his, even to the point of lying on him. Funny how they say they respect the constitution, but ignore the fact that it say's there is no religious test for holding public office. Talking about talking out of both sides of their face.

@Kanic,

You act like Mitt GAF about you. He don't and never will the GOP is only for the rich and if you are protecting the rich, then protect them. But I don't think they will protect your social security or you job when their job is on the line. Good luck with your vote for the GOP

MY, my, my - The left sure does like to make an issue out of religion. You all best reread the 1st amendment. When a politician starts to dictate that everyone must follow a specific religious order, then worry.

So far, no one on either side of the aisle has done so.

@Thommy; I agree; they obviously were not watching these debates. Obama's biggest challenge when he debates his GOP opponent will be trying to keep a straight face - I know I couldn't.

Actually, the Prsident is paid $400K per year. This started with W in 2001.

Great point, August. Maybe we should find a way for one half of all money donated or loaned (both private donors and PAC's), to be collected and go toward lowering the debt. Let them beg for all they want...but half goes toward something useful.

He's had a Midas touch with every enterprise he has ever run

Really, Jody? You might want to ask the workers of those companies Bain Capital stole pension funds from and cashed out their assets to buy themselves some more Bain stock.

A Wall Street Journal analysis of 77 businesses Bain invested in while Romney led the firm found that 22 percent either filed for bankruptcy reorganization or closed their doors by the end of the eighth year after Bain first invested

This Massachusetts native is voting for Mitt Romney tomorrow.

The idea he is an outsider to Washington is a big plus. As is his business experience. Working in what the mooching moonbats on the public sector gravy train consider the "dreaded private sector".

Since the only other candidate on the ballot in Virginia is Ron Paul, the choice is easy.

The only place Romney has ever worked is the financial sector.

And they produce.....what?

NOTHING. They just skim money.

TO: Jody-1593626 who wrote:

"As governor of one of the most liberal states in the union, Mitt Romney did something even Ronald Reagan didn't do as governor of California: He balanced the budget without raising taxes..."

Romney DID raise taxes, and so did Ronald Reagan, and so did George H.W. Bush, and Bush, Jr. would have raised taxes too except that Democrat President Bill Clinton left a $450,000,000,000 surplus that Bush, Jr. spent in less than one-year in the White House.

Bush didn't even save one-thin-dime! So don't try to feed the American People that crap about Republicans being "conservative" about anything. They spend as fast as they can, they just love to spend money on rich folks and wars, and leave the bills that have to be paid to the "little people"!

Obama / Biden 2012

TO: Bob in Virginia-5210392 who wrote:

"This Massachusetts native is voting for Mitt Romney tomorrow..."

We already know.

You don't have choice BUT to vote for Romney, the Jobs Cremator! because Romney is the only Republican on the ballot in all 50 states (I guess you haven't been listening).

Obama / Biden 2012

Romney's "Midas touch" with the Olympics came right out of the taxpayers' pockets--good job, Mitt.

Bob in virginia-5210392: Romney is no more an outsider to washington than Newt Gingrich claiming to not being a pimp and whore and not have white hair. People just plain do not like him because he is such a dumb bastard with no feelings for other people except the ones with lots of money.

Bain Capital=Staples.

Enough said.

@American Girl: M.T. Suit - the Jobs Creamator ... kind of has a nice ring to it.

Not quite enough, No Joe:

Bain Capital = Rush Limbaugh

Is that you Mitt?

Really? How very odd.

Do you have a link?

Bain Capital owns Clear Channel Communications which broadcasts your favorite hate monger, Rush Limbaugh, No Joe:

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10547-romneys-bain-capital-owns-media-giant-broadcasting-limbaugh-hannity

Jody, Romney raised Corporate taxes and ALL State fees; tuition for schools, when people bought homes and registered with the State, even proposing fees for BLIND people. His 'Romneycare,' IF 'adopted' by the other 49 States would be NO different than Obamacare covering ALL States at the same time. Romney has reason to work INSIDE Washington, when he has enough LOBBYISTS backing him that ARE on the inside. Romney was still working side by side with Bain even though he 'retired' 13 years earlier, advising on which companies they should should aquire/liquidate for profit. He had a Bain right-hand man working along side of him during the Olympics, gaining millions of FED monies for 'security' and infrastructure (including repaving a road to one of his 'lobbyist' friends).

He isn't a Washington Insider?

"I have learned from my Olympic experience that if you have people who really understand how Washington works and have personal associations there you can get money to help build economic development opportunities," Willard Romney

Wow. The new American, huh? Well, gee- there's a reliable source.

http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/

You might try a little independent research once in a while. Just, you know, so you don't look foolish.

Internet rumors are kind of easy to start. They're also easy to disprove. Try it sometime.

Yeah vote for the Mormon I want to have ten wives too and disrespect women because they belong in a kitchen.

Who ever votes for this clown I admittedly disagree with their vote. But in order to offset their horrendous vote I will vote for President Obama and go door to door if I have to. To get more vote for him. We can't go back to the same thing that got us into this mess in the first place.

If you don't want to listen to a radio commentator, change the channel, and if you don't like the spin of a news program, change the channel. You wouldn't buy a magazine without agreeing that there were things in it that you wanted to read. That is why we have more than one flavor of ice cream, and at least now, we all have the freedom to eat the ice cream that we enjoy without bothering the other guy who doesn't like it. If it irritates you to the point of cursing and hurling nasty names at strangers in a newsvine conversation, then may I suggest that you de-stress your life and stop listening to or reading the news at all, because it obviously overwinds your clock.

Well no jo I see you are still posting usless posts with no content and showing your ignorance again. Clear Channel corporate site? How about your own Alex Jones?

http://www.infowars.com/bain-capital-owns-clear-channel-romney-supported-by-talk-show-sphere/

or how about Forbes, you know Forbes right? That radical liberal rag.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thestreet/2012/02/01/can-ryan-seacrest-save-clear-channel/

Or perhaps an article that was done here on MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46620985/ns/business-us_business/

And last but certainly not least, how about this from, wait for it........Bain capital

http://www.baincapitalprivateequity.com/investments/429/Clear_Channel_Communications

Now, no jo, tell us again who continually looks like a fool?

Well, I am voting for Romney tomorrow...but there are very few Republicans here to convince....who would bother to read this heavily biased Obama spin written by liberals deep in the tank...

And that is the First Read articles ....the comments on here, are even more loonily Leftist..

Howling moonbat territory.

who would bother to read this

Do you own a mirror?

Hey Ron -- vote for Romney or whoever -- -- it doesn't matter. Your republicans have manage to drive away Hispanics, blacks, college graduates, gays, lesbians, union workers, auto workers, teachers, police, firemen, atheist, main stream Christians, atheist, Moslems and women. It's tough to win an election when the only people you haven't badmouthed are old, southern white guys.

The GOP has a bad case of electile dysfunction.

And it's getting worse by the day.

Hey Bob, Assuming you are from Va, Do you have a choice. I don't think Rick or Newt made it on to the ballot there.....

Vote for Ron Paul. At least he doesn't flip-flop on everything.

Oh yeah like we are doing so great with Obama. How long are you clowns going to blame Bush?? You people that like Obama better have some Deep, Deep pocket's because Obama's Energy czar want's Gas to go $5.50 a Gallon to match Europe's gas prices, and Obama is going along with him. Obama has given enough of our money away to Failed Energy companies. We have enough gas and oil in this country for the next hundred years if only the oil companies would stop shipping OUR Oil OUT of the country for a better price. Wake up folk's, your pocket is being picked by Obama and his oil czar and you don't even know it.

Tarzan7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZQw9gkV_Zw

Get the facts.

And Americans are driving less as well, but that would have no affect right? Or a slowly recovering economy right? Best understand what creates what you want to tout as facts.

Typical lib. Nice slam on Muslims you racist.

I am a woman, and I have children, and nobody has ever tried to take anything away from me, because they never gave it to me in the first place.....I worked for it. Life is about prioritizing, and that means that we can't treat our incomes like allowance when we were kids and blow it all on the adult equivalent of comic books, toys and candy. Being an adult means obligation and personal responsibility. Making the choice to have children expands that responsbility---(notice, I said the choice to have children, because by your definition, as women have reproductive freedom, so there should never actually be a child that isn't wanted and provided for) When do people actually have to step up and be adults, take some responsibility for their situations, try to do something to help themselves? How long does it take to 'assist' somebody to a better life? I don't mind lending a helping hand to anyone, but when the people on the dole are second generation and have never known what it means to work and strive for the TV in the living room, or do without to have the shoes or the designer clothing, because all their needs are being met (and if it is only at a subsistance level, it is ultimately their choice to remain at that level) And for those who would call me Unchristian, I urge you to re-read your bible, because God does not condone people who refuse to contribute, do their fair share. Sloth and Laziness are considered part and parcel of the Seven Deadly Sins. The scariest part is the fact that we have conditioned people to look to someone or something else for their well-being. We have convinced them that they cannot take care of themselves and their families (how sad to devalue their ability and worth as human beings by belittling them in that way). Then our government tells them that they should feel slighted and offended because they don't have all the things that people who work have acquired. And instead of people looking at those who are successful and saying that they might learn from them how to be successful themselves....if it works, copy it....they make excuses that success was not part of effort, but had to be because somebody cheated....Now they ask government to change the rules and punish the cheaters. I am just now wholly sure that everyone who is successful is a cheater, and I am also fairly sure that many who regularly respond to this column are a hell of alot closer to the 1% than I will ever be, so I am wondering why you are complaining at all, and also when, in the spirit of true Christianity, you are going to share all you have with the poor unfortunates. We can either help one another directly, or we can give all our wherewithall to the government in the form of taxes so they can determine who is deserving of help, which is probably some politician somewhere, up for re-election.

All those words and you said nothing.

We need to reverse the Citizens United law

Agreed. The shorter the better. What a nonsense and what a waste.

One term presidency for 5 or 6 years would end MOST of this bull$h!t.

How do you figure? You think a one term limit will cause them to suddenly just stop campaigning?

Agreed, The Republicans also had Buddy Roemer as well and shut him out of the process. As an independent looking at this primary "process" they have botched it in every way possible; votes not counted, rules changed, votes not counted correctly, and winners awarded under dubious circumstances etc.

If they can't run their primaries without controversy how could I possibly trust them to run the country?

I think that you should honestly ,of your own thoughts, think how bad a state this country would be in,if we had had the misfortune to have elected another Republican into the office of PotUS Their policies would have increased the wealth of the1%.ers for a short unsustainable time , but in the the long term would have been disastrous for this nation ,as it has been for all nations that has favoured the rich 1%. The early industrialists knew that and advocated ,A chicken in every pot and car in every garage.We are now trying the trickle down economy and we can all see,excluding the stupidest of the 1%. how that is turning out. For those misguided among us that want to cut our social benefits. Income tax pays for the running of government. Our social benefits come out of social.or wages,and would , be adequate for our old age if they had not been under funded or looted from our personal benefits. If you still are misguided enough to think that Medical coverage for all citizens is wrong then I suggest that you ask the opinion of the citizens of our neighbours to our north. If you do you will,like I have, find that the vast majority would never go back to the old ways and can't understand why we do not insist on having it like virtual all of the developed countries do.

ha ha Hawk. Lets keep going because its free press to the republicans. As long as obama is made out to be mud, his pol numbers are in the tank. I love it. Lets go all the way to labor day or past. At that point, people will begin to think correctly about the teleprompter and chief that he is. Also, he will have to be in IRan by mid summer as the Nuke issue with IRAN is going to be fixed or the israelis will fix it. With the high unemployment and gas prices, he has the trifecta of losing issues.

jolly joker: The way you sound you are either a tea party limp lizard or you have been hanging around with Slick Rick Perry and Glover (Mr. illiterate) Norquist because your flip flop psy game needs some work and those code words for belittling people intellect died 125 years ago. Oh i forgot that maybe you are still mad because Rush Limbaugn called your mother (Anne Coulter) a whore and slut.

Nah, Jolly Joker sounds like is a very uninformed teenager. Hey Jolly Joker, instead of giving republicans lip service go and find out what they really stand for. How about you go and find out how your economical situation will be helped if they are giving tax breaks to millionaires, and billionaires, which will make the middle-class and the poor obviously pay more. That might be in the lost of services provided by our government that the rich obviously don't need or by just taxing those who now pay no taxes.

Go do the figues with your current income and either comeback and thank me, or explain to me how you just wouldn't feel right taking money from rich people because it's not your money. I mean, that is the last straw of stupidity lower-class and middle-class republicans pull to justify the plans of republicans instead of just admitting they don't want to have to vote for a black guy, right?

I know 47 percent of American would love to make enough to pay income taxes. I'm willing to bet most would jump at the chance to make over a million dollars a year even if they had to pay 50 percent of it to taxes. Except, of course, if they are these fanatic republican idiots who would only go from 30k a year to a million a year IF they are guaranteed 13.9 percent in taxes. Just like their good buddy Mitt.

Sound stupid? Yeah? That's because it is. But that is what you are saying Jolly, with your vote.

Asim.. .Would that tax break be for harry reid or nancy pelosi? After all they earned all their money in the progressive money pit. MILLIONS on the backs of taxpayers while they used inside information to lie and cheat. ...... The reason people don't make money in this economy is because obama is too busy adding regulations to destroy the middle class, bailing out banks through the fed, or pushing his book to earn a few bucks after he leaves office. Have we exited fannie mae or freddie mac..? No, we are still giving them billions while his banker friends are settling for a few measly peanuts with attorney general holder who was a wall streeter but now has taken up killing american citizens in gun deals..... OBamas a third world president in a first world economy. His whole existance is to pay out to his tribe .......that would be 50 million on foodstamps instead of creating jobs by drilling for oil and taking on china trade practices. Instead, keep people poor and stupid. That keeps him in power. ...... Also, BTW 47 million pay social security ---which is a tax and get it all back through EITC. ANyone with a family has tons of credits against income. As far as romney, I hope you progressives play the class warfare bit, because as soon as they realize the teleprompter in chief has been making million writing is nobel peace prize book while he is bombing iran and oil prices skyrocket, they will think twice about your class warefare. I would say also if you knew anything about taxes, you would realize capital gains are taxed after income tax, Romneys marginal rate is more like 50% and he gave 30% to charity. Too bad he is smarter than the average government leach in office and made a few bucks.

Asim.. .Would that tax break be for harry reid or nancy pelosi?

-See, this is what I am saying. You don't know. You haven't done the figures, in fact you are asking and answering questions that does not even relate to what I have said.

Want to impress? Then, again, do some research how the republicans ideals help or hinder your financial situation. Show us figures. Show us how you are economically better with republican programs and tax cuts when compared to Democrats. Because, quite frankly, you simply don't know. Why you wish people to believe you do is beyond me.
It's like going around telling everybody you know who really shot Kennedy. Local papers might run with it. Your close relatives may think that is just great. All find and dandy till somebody, who actually matters, asks you where your proof is. I'm just trying to stop you from looking like an idiot. You should be happy, I don't do it often :)

So, again, look how the policies of the republican party help or hinder you when you decide your vote. Don't vote on what mommy and daddy has told you to believe. Thanks

Statistics are interesting things in that they can be used to prove or disprove any point depending upon your goal. The glass is half empty or the glass is half full is a great analogy of how statistics work, and how the same numbers can mean wholly different things to different people. Even polls are statistically adjusted by anywhere from 2-5% for error, so I don't feel that statistics are necessarily the best measure for determining whether the present administration or policies are worthwhile or not. We can keep arguing about the glass being full or empty forever without coming to an agreement (sounds like congress) How about going back to raw numbers.....and raw numbers (not adjusted seasonally, or amortized, or anything else) seem to suggest that the numbers of folks finding themselves out of work, still far exceed those finding work. Raw numbers say that an alarming amount of homeowners are still losing their homes to foreclosure (this is not about blame, but raw numbers which will speak to the health or weakness of the economy) Raw numbers show that our kids don't perform as well in school as kids from other countries. Raw numbers show that our kids aren't doing as well as perhaps their parents did on the same tests at the same age. Raw numbers say that if you have money to save, you won't earn anything for the bother of saving it. Raw numbers how fewer cars are being sold than a year ago. Raw numbers how that people are not travelling to DisneyWorld on vacation in as great a number as a year or two ago. Raw numbers how that costs for all transportation have increased. Raw numbers show that costs on everything have increased as the prices of fuel oil has increased. Just look at the raw numbers, and can you honestly say that anyone is better off than they were?

Good lord Sue. You use 150 words to say what could be said in 10. And what's with your favorite word "wholly"? "can mean wholly different things"? Does sticking in an extra word that is not needed make you feel smarter or what? And to answer your ridiculously long winded sentence, yes, I am better off. I am way better off now that I was 4 years ago. Thanks for asking in 250 words.

The center is for wimps like you. "I feel strongly both ways". No guts no conviction. An empty shell of a human being.

After the repub convention, the winner will run back toward the center. Right now, they're acting extra far left crazy, to get the repub voters to like them. After one is picked, that person will move back toward normalcy...hoping to pick up some indy's and maybe a couple of center-dems. It'll be too late, but it'll happen.

If Romney is the 'last man standing' candidate....he'll do well at this switch back to center. He's got alot of experience....flipping.

Wow Blamo!!! Your statement epitomizes Romney's position on EVERYTHING, the consummate fence-rider.

The longer who keeps quiet about Rush? The GOP contenders?

Why do they need to say anything about what Rush had to say. No more than Obama having nothing to say about what Reverend Wright had to say...

The longer who keeps quiet about Rush? The GOP contenders?

well yea...unless they don't see the problem, and agree with Rush. Or.....unless they're afraid of him.

Boehner is VERY afraid of Rush, since he sees Rush for advice all the time...

You obama lovers and all those chicago cronies will be out of office come January 2013. 5 dollar gas by mid summer and GOODBYE!

Exactly-why should the GOP have anything to say about Rush. Rush has the right (FREEDOM OF SPEECH) to day what he wants to. He is also not running for President so why should Rush be an issue period. Frankly, I agree with Rush. I don't know amybody who spends thousands a year on contraception and if you do-you must be over-dosing on it-it's more like maybe $300 a year and you want to sleep around and not get pregnant-pay for it yourself. The taxpayers should not have to pay for someone's pleasure.

Kanic

Interesting, you agree with Rush that 98% of women in America today are sluts and prostitutes.

Secondly, Rush isn't the issue. It is the response by the republican candidates regarding Rush's comments that is unsettling.

One said it was "unfortunate". That's it, all he said. Another said it "was the wrong words to use", thats it, that all.

So, if it makes you feel better, the republicans feel the same way you do. They believe your wife, mother or daughter is a slut too.

Bosslino:

I doubt that what Rush said can be construed as saying 98% of women are sluts. Anymore than Kanic did. It was "unfortunate" that Rush said what he said as I read the gal's comments and she doesn't say much of anything.

I think his talking points crew messed him up and blind sided him accidently or on purpose, depending on what they preceive as viable information and ratings.

If an ill person needs a pill for their illness, they should get it from a doctor. Otherwise just to prevent pregnancy, she can get all the contraceptives she needs from Planned Parenthood as it is well funded by the Left to cut down on the Earth's population.

Being a slut or not being able to afford a contraceptive doen't mean these people asking for support are all in one category.

I think you need to apologize to kanic for ripping him on something he didn't say.

Anybody here actually hear what this moron said? He told her to have sex, video tape it, and post it on the Internet. I expect the irrational responses from Republicans. You actually believe Romney is a qualified contender. He isn't qualified to hand out rubbers at a sex clinic. Rush and Romney...The Republican Titanic. You clowns handed Obama the White House. I'm glad. $5 dollar gas and all. I can afford it.