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Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks at a campaign rally at American Posts in Toledo, Ohio, Wednesday, Feb. 29, 2012. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
TOLEDO, Ohio – Ten states hold their nominating contests in the Republican presidential primary on Tuesday, none more important than the contested race in Ohio, a state key in any general election candidate’s path to the White House.
The state’s Republican primary is poised to become the crown jewel of Super Tuesday, a state in which Mitt Romney could avoid the kind of backslide he suffered after previous wins in the primary cycle or where another candidate could find a new boost of energy and momentum.
For Rick Santorum, the former senator from neighboring Pennsylvania, Ohio presents an opportunity to challenge Romney on similar terrain as Michigan – where he almost upset Romney on Tuesday evening – but without the built-in advantages for the former Massachusetts governor.
Santorum must begin to string together some big wins in major states, said Randall Fought, a Perrysburg bricklayer, of Santorum at his campaign event on Tuesday in northwest Ohio. “He’s got to pick up some decisive places, especially here in the Midwest.”
But Romney is riding high after staving off Santorum in Michigan, while also scoring a decisive win in Arizona.
“If Santorum would have won Michigan, I would’ve been tilted in that direction … He was weak in the debate, and I think that affected him in the result,” said Michael Kuhar of Point Place, Ohio following a Romney event in Toledo.
With only a few days until Super Tuesday, delegates are at stake for the GOP presidential candidates. NBC's David Gregory explains how candidates Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum are campaigning in those Super Tuesday states.
“I think [Romney] has more momentum. I think he attracts and will continue to attract anybody that could’ve been on the fence, like myself,” added Kuhar, who said he was undecided before Romney’s win in Michigan.
Of the 10 states hosting primaries or caucuses on Tuesday, few are as competitive as Ohio, a battleground state that will be important to the general election in November.
Santorum held an advantage over Romney in the state ahead of the voting this week in Michigan and Arizona, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Monday that found Santorum leading Romney, 36 percent to 29 percent with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 17 percent and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 11 percent.
But Santorum faces an initial handicap in the race, too. While he’ll appear on the ballot statewide – giving him the chance to beat Romney – he’ll be ineligible to win delegates in the three congressional districts where he did not file delegate slates. He’ll lose out on the opportunity to win as many as nine delegates.
First Read: How ugly was Romney's win?
“What people are beginning to understand is the conventional wisdom about Romney – that he would be the best candidate in the fall – is not true,” said Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine, a former senator who served with Santorum in Congress and had initially backed Romney for the nomination.
To that end, Santorum is set to rely on a similar formula that almost won him Michigan, looking to relate with working class voters and very conservative voters who feel uncomfortable or disconnected from Romney.
“I think he should play very well here,” said Peggy Moody of Steubenville, Ohio, who’s been unemployed for a year and a half since losing her job as a pharmaceutical sales representative. “I feel that Rick Santorum is much more genuine and he relates better to the people.”
But some Ohio voters also take umbrage at the suggestion that Romney can’t relate to voters in the state as well as Santorum.
“I look at it the same way,” said Brook Welker, who owns a small business that places outdoor signage throughout northwest Ohio, in reference to Romney’s well-publicized private sector career. “I acquire signs in disrepair – I acquire assets for my business, fix them up, and cut losses. It’s the same thing [with Romney] on a larger scale. I can identify.”
Both Romney's and Santorum’s abilities to connect with voters will be an important test not just in Ohio, but in the nine other states hosting contests.
Moreover, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Rep. Ron Paul are each battling to rejuvenate their own candidacies by focusing on very specific caucuses and primaries. Victories by either candidate could infuse their campaigns with new momentum, or, at the very least, contribute to the growing possibility that the race for the GOP nomination will become a drawn-out battle for delegates.
Gail Gitcho of the Romney campaign explains whether the presidential candidate can now close the deal with the Republican base, gaining their support as well as the nomination.
“Every primary is important as you start to build your delegate count. Our goal is to help Gov. Romney achieve the goal,” said Ohio Senate President Tom Niehaus, a Republican who’s supporting Romney. “I certainly would hope that it would come to an end soon. But I think the reality is that we have a number of candidates who have said they’ll continue contesting contests through the early summer.”
The 10 states hosting primaries or caucuses on Super Tuesday are Alaska, Georgia, Idaho, Massachusetts, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont and Virginia. A total of 437 delegates are at stake, although some states apportion them differently. In the case of Virginia, only Romney and Paul qualified for the ballot.
Romney has campaigned this week in Ohio, Idaho and North Dakota, and has dispatched surrogates to some of the other states. Gingrich has, meanwhile, fought most aggressively in his native Georgia and neighboring Tennessee. Santorum has planned stops in Tennessee and has done media in Oklahoma. Paul has also spread the map, but has made a particular point of challenging Romney head-to-head in Virginia.
Ten states have held their primaries already, with over 300 delegates up for grabs. That’s the same number of states that hold contests on Super Tuesday, except more delegates will be at stake on a single day than in two months’ worth of voting. An additional 11th state, Wyoming, is apportioning its delegates on Super Tuesday, too. The state of Washington additionally hosts caucuses this weekend.
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OH and a dime. One of the keys to November.
With over 300 delegates and only 4 a**holes to collect them, we're all dangling at the edge of our seats.
Seriously though, this is make it or break it time for Romney. If he cannot convince the people in his party after Tuesday to vote for him or atleast appear on his side, I fear for us all in that Santorum is going to gain the upper hand. This is truly scary, and most of all, I fear for all the women out there.
I think it's more do-or-die time for Santorum and Gingrich. If they don't win Ohio and Georgia, respectively, they're done. If they do take those states, and Romney gets everything else, then it's status quo: Romney still the leader and favorite and nobody terribly happy about it, but nobody really poised to stop him either.
If, somehow, Romney loses Ohio, Georgia, and two or three other states (say, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and one or more of the binding caucuses), then you'll see a return of the talk about brokered conventions and white knights.
Two things seem relatively certain: Romney will not be dealt a mortal blow, whatever happens, and Ron Paul will have a terrible night, but not care particularly much.
Nathan - Polls have consistently shown Santorum ahead in Ohio, Tennessee, and Oklahoma. Add to that Washington has been polling strongly for Santorum. Meanwhile Santorum is close behind in Vermont and Georgia.
Alaska and North Dakota are unknown
Romney Takes Virginia, Massachusetts, and Vermont.
Idaho has a January straw poll that says Romney would win, but Santorum short about 7 points, but that was early January - things continue to change.
Looking ahead over half of the states coming don't have polls or have had no polls since last december before the Santorum surge.
This nomination may be Santorums IF Gingrich Drops out. Most of the places Santorum has lost has been less than what Gingrich has taken in voters. Polls show that Gingrich votes pretty much go to Santorum.
TO: UAW Pleeeeeeeease who wrote:
That's NOT the message. The message is, "If Rich Folks want to Lie the American People into foreign wars, then Rich Folks need to be prepared to pay for it."
The problem is Republicans wanting to put the full cost of that lie called the War in Iraq on the backs of the very people who DON'T have the money to pay for it, we are the only ones who didn't make a penny off of that war, and the people who did become wealthy off that big lie need to pay for it.
You got a few different kind of folks who made millions, for example, those who played the stock market and made millions on war equipment (tanks, bombs, bullets, etc.), and the folks who made millions off of drilling Iraqi Oil.
Period.
Obama / Biden 2012
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The state’s Republican primary is poised to become the crown jewel of Super Tuesday
Yeah! Right all the "jewels" are just pieces of broken beer bottles. They just look like jewels from the distance....If you look closely, they even stink.
As long as they have a super-pac and a billionaire, why would either Gingrich or Santorum drop out? The best thing they could do to combat Romney is to stay out of each other's way. The more they fight each other in states where Romney's unpopular, the more they risk splitting the opposition and letting him win. They seem to have no desire to play nice or gang up on Romney, though.
I'll post this again just for you, DB Akron:
Let's pretend I'm Joe Independant Voter.
Give me one reason to vote for Santorum. All I see from him doing is implying that wanting access to college makes you a slob, being repulsed by concept of a Separation of Church and State, saying that homosexuality is equivilant to bestiality, claiming that women should be denied access to contraception, and refusing to raise taxes on the wealthy in a debt crisis.
Also, nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/01/10551517-romney-and-santorum-fight-for-super-tuesdays-crown-jewel
This is outrageous. These are dozens of bills passed by the Democratic House that were rejected by Republican Senators. These bills included better pay for women and stronger national defense. I don't know what kind of sociopath would vote for the likes of Rick Santourm or Newt Gingrich.
Mr Anon - you aren't Joe Independent. You are clearly predisposed to the left - meaning you can't really relate to the independents.
Independents are not necessarily in the middle. And actually the left and right thing is flat-earther. One could make a real argument that you have a triangular relationship. "Left", Right, and Libertarian. Ron Paul, a libertarian really, has extreme right views and extreme left views. Independent would be to both the inside and outside of the triangle.
I happen to be an Independent registered as Republican, because independents aren't a party - they are people with beliefs that simply don't match well enough with a party. That means a truely independent candidate will never get nominated.
If I don't participatee in one of the two parties, then a candidate I like would never get the nomination who is a conservative. Regardless, Independents do lean toward one of the aforementioned three.
Republican ISN'T conservative, but is more conservative than Democrat. So the odds of getting a conservative nominated would be much higher than they ever will be in the Democrat party.
Your predisposition to democrat thinking leaves you outside the thinking of oveer half of the independents.
You know, way before Roe Vs Wade, I had a great grandmother, whose husband died, leaving her to raise five children....she worked, and even way back in the dark ages, nobody prevented her from working as a mother with five children....nobody forced her to stay home and out of the workplace. Among her daughters, all four worked full time outside the home to help support their families during the depressiona and WWII. All of her daughters had children without Roe Vs Wade......You still do not make it clear why you believe that not forcing companies to pay for birth control means that we can't work outside the home etc., because it isnt' true and it wasn't even true prior to Roe Vs Wade.
DB if you are going to throw libertarian in that mix you should counter that with authoritarian.
I honestly do not get the appeal to Santorum by any independent voter. He falls into the authoritarian conservative realm. His biggest appeals are that he isn't Romney and he is evangelical. Neither of those things are going to be of interest to an independent, they are looking for any candidate not just more conservative than Romney.
Romney has his own issues, mostly he has flip flopped and catered to tea party types. He has led the most negative campaign in the history of the country. 50% of his ads are attack, 20% of Obama's in 2008 were. The fact is only tea party types get off on the bloody battle and attacks on the poor, women and gays.
The republicans only shot is for the economy to crash again. Which for any incumbent is the only marker for reelection. As long as the trend is positive, they are reelected. Fox tries to spin it into a lie but honestly it is improving, even Mitt admits that.
Akron, that's beside the point. You have to convince me why I should vote for Santorum. (still putting on independent/moderate hat) So far, Obama has handled the economy OK, and even though the debt. Plus he's killed Bin Laden and gotten troops out of Iraq, and has gotten high-speed rail in my home state of Washington. What does Santorum have to top that?
Edit: by "independent", I am referring to moderate voters who are generally socially liberal and perhaps fiscally conservative.
Weighing the thoughts of DB and Anon, I can see why some people would vote for Santorum. The Anti-Mitt crowd needs an alternative, and DB is correct when he says Newt is cannabalizing Santorum votes which might defeat Romney if combined. Democratic and Independent voters who prefer Obama might vote for Santorum, as many in Michigan did, in an attempt to nominate the weaker Republican opponent.
Once we get to the general election, it isn't going to matter who they nominated (especially if Ron Paul runs a third party ticket), --with decent voter turnout #'s, I think the President will be re-elected.
Good points there G-Dog. Every Republican candidate has a major factor detracting from them.
Romney: Can't appeal to middle class families; implies that one has to be in the top 1% to hold public office; he's had to radically change his policies to appeal to the right
Santorum: Too far to the right; social conservatism alienates women and sexual minorities.
Gingrich: Horrible, horrible record of corruption. Had an affair at the same time he was impeaching Clinton for adultery.
Paul: Foreign policy ideas too radical for his base.
I hear Ann Romney is very frustrated with the press, whom she feels are not treating her hubby well....in an interview, said ' I could strangle them'. She is blaming the press for giving Mitt a hard time over what he says!!!! Now who said them Ann?
Lady you have one dumba** for husband and that he is his own problem. For a fellow who has been running for the job for 5 yrs, he sure is a slow learner or a fast flip flopper.
So true Gingerbread, another dumba.
GM---She should probably blame herself. She must know better than anyone else how Mitt tends to say things idiotic. He is so used to being filthy rich, he thinks that everybody relates to him. This is going to continue to be a major problem unless he develops Laryngitis and she becomes his spokesperson.
Well Mrs. Mittens, if you prefer, the press could focus on you!
....I wonder if Mr. Mittens will stand up for ya', or will he flip-flop?
Maybe she should put one on the roof of one of her Cadillacs that'll teach em.
Did you notice all that open area in front and behind Romney, where are the real crowds the enthusiasm?
If this had been Mrs Obama, complaining, could you imagine the uproar. This lady, Mrs Romney, has been pushing this idiot to run since the last time, he admitted it. Does anyone suppose she is too close to the forest and cant see those special trees???
Now there's conviction for you! Wait till the race has started before picking your horse... that just makes these people sound like lemmings who don't know what they want till someone tells them. FOX must not be doing their jobs very well if there are still so many undecideds.
I could understand if it was a speach or policy declaration that helped a voter choose, but simply to see who's gained momentum? Pathetic!
Just a prediction for what it's worth..Half of those states are Southern or vote like it. The one thing (sad to say) that us good old Southern boys do well is Hate, Fear, Jingoism and downright Batcr@pCrazy. Since Newt does Hate, Fear and Jingoism the best and Mr Sanatorium seems to have the Batcr@p Crazy vote all sewn up I predict that Mr. Romney is going to be farther from locking this thing up than he'd like to be.
IR, well said! Describes them to a "t".
IR Well said
Right now, the media focus is on Romney and Santorum's performances as candidates, but what about their performance on the job should, God forbid, one of them become President?
Why don't we hear primary voters mulling this over? Neither man has experience in the military, or has had recent exposure to top level briefings. Santorum sounds like he's stuck in the 90's, as far as current events abroad are concerned. I mean c'mon. Republicans like to go on about Obama's inexperience when he was elected, but as a senator, Obama was privy to up to date briefings on national events. Santorum and Romney have been completely out of the loop for decades.
Both Romney and are up on events. Santorum appears to have not missed a beat since 2007 where he had achieved the positioin of Minority Whip (#3 ranking position in the Senate). You don't get that unless you are aware of the issues and getting there that quick shows he can be a quick study of matters. Before the Senate he was in the House for 8 years.
Romney clearly has more experience with business, and having been the governor of Massachusetts. For all the BS Romney throws at Santorum, Romney appears to be the least principled of the two.
I'm in Ohio this week, and I can tell you that Romney and his superpac are carpetbombing the airwaves.
Some seem to think he's running short of money, but the superpac is sure spending it like a drunken sailor here. (No offence to drunken sailors.)
In the last 72 hours I've had at least 4 Romney Robo calls one from DeWine for Santorum , and a call from Rasmussen. Romney and Gingrich packs have been slamming Santorum for nearly 4 weeks. In that time Santorum has gone from third to a good lead. You'd think they'd figure out in a couple of weeks that the negativity isn't working.
Romney's best bet is to catch Santorum of guard in a debate again. Ooops, they are pretty much over.
I was really unhappy about the Romney calls, First I didn't want to hear them again, and second I was working on a couple of projects that were having Crisis moments this morning.
"Mitt's comments about my two Cadillacs was so taken out of context. Why do they ask him so many leading questions as if he's running for President for Latter Day Christ's sake!?"
The two Cadillacs comment was not taken out of context; he was talking about his love of cars. It isn't that he has two Cadillacs, it's that he uses these things as props to try to convince people he's one of them--he should have stuck with naming the cars he has had, the Ford Pickup but no, he keeps going and finally tosses out that Ann drives a couple of Cadillacs as if everyone does. It's the faux "I love American cars" comments after declaring in 2009 "let Detroit go bankrupt." No one cares if he has two or ten Cadillacs, we know he's rich so trying to pretend he isn't comes across as lame, and out of touch.
As far as I know, Santorum still leads in Ohio. We'll know Romney has retaken the lead when Mike "Weathervane" DeWine switches his endorsement again.
DeWine was a conservative while in Ohio. He went to Washington DC & got lost. He currently is the Attorney General of the State - probably the most appropriate position for him.
Speaking of Pigs, here is a commit from Rush Limbaugh:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/01/rush-limbaugh-sandra-fluke_n_1313891.html
Job1, Limbaugh is despicable excuse for a human being.
Limbaugh will die soon and then we won't hear his crap any more.
Job and Jody, just heard a discussion on this on Martin Bashir's hour, it is utterly contemptible, he is a disgusting individual. And the sad part, not one republican will stand up and say, enough, no more. They will cheer him
Fluke should sue Limbaugh for defamation.
That just means that they are like him. Very sad.
Republicans are afraid of Limbaugh, they will not go against him no matter what he says!......
Just as they were equally afraid of Breitbart. What will James O'Keefe do without his mentor?
Okay, here's the funny part...
Just last year the Ohio GOP changed the primary rules so that Ohio will not be an all-or-nothing state...so, like Michigan, if it's a close vote the "winner" and the "runner-up" could once again be allocated the same number of delegates. Here are the details...
www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2011/10/07/Republicans-adopt-new-delegate-rule.html
Oh, the chairman of the Ohio Republican Party is Kevin DeWine...he's the second cousin of the esteemed
weathervaneformer Senator. Seems like that family is hedging its bets.At first I was enjoying the havoc in the GOP primaries but now I'm getting concerned that the woman hating theocrat might actually be getting a little too close to being one election away from the Oval Office. What's also frightening is to think that even should Santorum lose the nomination in this cycle, following traditional GOP "logic" he will be the presumed front-runner in 2016. Ugh.
Given the
unabashed lunacyprocess during this election cycle I find it doubtful that Santorum would last very long in 2016....besides, assuming that the President is re-elected in November we should expect the GOP to turn to a heavyweight like Chris Christie.
(Yes, I went there.)
I never read much about the low voter turnouts during this republican primary. Wonder why? It is significant, in that, it says, even the "crazies" are reluctant to choose an ultimate loser against the President. Even Georgia, where most think Gingrich is a native son will be low. Lots of talk, yet, little voter activity for these 3ed stringers. Reminds me of a group talking about what they would do if they won the lottery, and never buying a ticket.
a big fat douche or a giant turd? which do you like best?
both!
Santorum is an IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Romney scares me as a warmonger and businessman who only knows what it is to be super-rich. Santorum is really wackey, far-out. Ginrich is way over the hill and irrelevant. Who's that other guy? I'm so relieved there is a President Obama in the picture!
That's a bit of a reach. Probably ought to stick with the ruthless business man one there!
Article should read , Romney and Santorum hook-up in Ohio. Gives a better visual.
I hope that Romney continues to move ahead....I want him to win the nomination....I also want him to remain and get stronger and beat O blam mer's butt in November....we need some decency in the White House.
Are you kidding or are you one of those friggin teabaggers?
Fedup....dont pay Just Me no mind, he went to the Drudge/Breibart school, expect nothing only dirt and ignorance which eventually kills them.
By your disrespectful attitude, we can tell you wouldn't know decency if it bit you in the nose.
When is the country and the Reps. going to learn. Ginrich is a right wing zealot that has no chance of being president. Santorum is not presidential material, first time he tried to talk to a foreign leader he'd hear a click and that would be the end of it. Paul is just wacko. Romney is the only Rep. that can be president. Anyone else and Obama is reelected. Romey may not have the smoothness of Reagan but he is a good honest and qualified man who will right the wrongs Obama has done to this country. If Reagan were running today Gingrinch and Santorum would be bashing him calling him weak and a non conservative.
I think they will have learned plenty by sending the leaderships choice back home.
unfounded - you are trying to convince yourself you are right and he is wrong. You are the leader of the Free world and your country generates 25% of the world economy. They are going to talk to whomever is president. As long as you listen and aren't telling them what they going to do, they will continue to talk to you.
Now Paul is one they aren't going to talk to as much. By taking a non-interventionist stance, they are unlikely to call for help, or be disappointed when they do.
Romney will be a little tougher than you suppose. This is one reason Trump endorsed him.
The record shows that Gringrich often opposed Reagan at first and made some pretty infamous comments about Reagan. Gingrich over time clearly has come to a deep respect for Reagan and has participated in efforts to commemorate him. Remember Gingrich is a PhD in History - to not recognize the significance of Reagan would be a faus paus.
Santorum actually followed Reagan and was inspired by Reagan to run for office. If there is are any characteristics Santorum has taken is from Reagan it would be the very strong beliefs, but the acceptance of all. I haven't met him, and I have missed an opportunity to see him in person, and nothing scheduled is any where close to me the next couple of days, but I hear lots of people comment on how he is "like them".
Don't get me wrong, I voted for Romney over McCain in 2008 - and held my nose voting for McCain in 2008. McCain lost Ohio in 2008 because the three most populous staunch conservative counties stayed home.
If you think Romney is the one, consider this. The majority of the Republican party does not identify with him. One of the big keys to winning a national election is getting people to accept you as them, or at least identify with you. Obama won that battle hands down against McCain. Romney, though not offensive to most republicans, may not be able to sustain a race against Obama in this area.
Mr. Romney is going to be in for a tough time if he doesn't at least get Ohio and Tennessee, because it will mean he still can't over his southern problem and if the southern folks don't like the President just wait til Mr. Romney really gets the focus on him. And if he's already stumbling and fumbling along right now he won't stand a chance of beating the President in November.
Wrong! Romney will get the nomination and will go on to beat Obama. He has a very impressive resume, 100 times more experience that I am sure will come out during a debate between the two. Obama has nothing to offer in November, he has a blank resume and a bad record.
Dee
You are absolutely right. Wiggles Willard has the strongest resume in politics today because there is no issue he is not both for and against. The latest example was his handling of the Blunt amendment which he said he was against on Tuesday(?) then claimed he misunderstood the question and declared he was for it on Rush's(?) show.
In researching this gentleman, I cannot find any issue he has not taken both sides on. This ranges from his shifting position on climate change, his carefully parsed belief in evolution, the ethics of voting in the other party's primary and womens' health issues.
MoonbaseGOP: UR rght on. Also, women use amniocentisis to discover Downs synrome and then have abortions. The Pious Priest from Penn got that one right! That is the point of that test - to avoid giving birth to a life time heartache - a Downs syndrome. Rick Saint Torum claims to relate to the common man yet he has never, ever held a job in the private sector .He was lawyer and then a senator and finally was beaten for re-election by the largest margin ever in PA. He is a total faker and even backed Arlen Spector - the liberal. I do not see why people, especially women, do not see through this phony.
None of what anyone says about Santorum will matter. He will not get the nomination, period!
Crown jewel? They are fighting over worthless, tacky, cheap bling. The nomination will go to the biggest loser in the bottom of the grab bag.
So, yeah, as an independent I'll go in and play in their primary but I'm a Republican and have been through my life. I was with Young Republicans when I was in college back at Stanford. But a registered independent so I could vote in either primary. Romney Feb. 18, 2007 ABC interview
This was posted a couple of days ago, I missed it. So how about "Wiggles Willard" denouncing Ricky for urging Democrats to vote in the Michigan primary after acknowledging he did it himself.
Not sure where your loyalty lies Mr. Texan, I don't have a problem with someone voting in either primary so long as they are voting for the person that they truly support. I really despise that fact that a group of democrats would intentionally conspire to vote for someone that they would never want to see be their leader as a method of strategy to control who their knuckleheaded incumbent would eventually face in the general election.
mikerowe
I point out contradictions whenever I see them, regardless of candidate or party. Have not had much Democrat material to work with but I expect to be busy with both parties in the Fall.
As a matter of fact, check the article and you will see that he acknowledged he voted for what he considered the weaker candidate to benefit his team.
While the endless ads of republicans ripping into each other are becoming white noise in Ohio..... it is extremely nice of them to write the ads for President Obama to use in the fall.
If people really vote for them against their own wallets, I come over to the USA and sell some of my snake-oil. I gonna be rich, RICH I tell YA!!!! Those Americans believe anything!
Of course that isnt true. Just being awefully sarcastic. I cannot fathom more than 50% ever voting for Mitt or Rick. The GOP must be really desperate to have such a weak field. There are some good candidates to be found, but they wont contend right now. They await 2016, when Obama isnt incumbant. They'd have a bigger chance at success then. Poor Mitt and Rick. They have to make up for the lack of real candidates. And it takes its toll.
Is anyone surprised by the delegate change? Been a bad year for counting in the Republican Party. Just looks really bad. This how you guys planning on running the country if ya win?