Actually the most negative campaign ever ran was by Obama against Hillary Clinton. Trying to paint all the GOP as mudslingers is kinda funny because the Democrates are literally just as bad. Besides the GOP isn't self serving, they just believe the governemtn shouldn't be doing things that people should be doing. Ever looked at charity numbers (in time and money) of liberals VS. conservatives?

I'd give my left eye tooth to see Romney lose this one.

Obama / Biden 2012

TO: kama who wrote:

"Actually the most negative campaign ever ran was by Obama against Hillary Clinton..."

So, you're not watching?

Obama / Biden 2012

The Republican Moderate Establishment is quaking. They have no other moderate who is willing to step in. Their best bet is to get a brokered convention. The number trends say "not happening." If the Moderate are quaking it's because those 3500-5000 person detailed and expensive polls they do, say Romney is going to flush.

The message being sent by the Republican base "Leadership, you are out of touch!'

kama

Hypocrisy has no bound with you right wing nut jobs. "Smaller government!" "Less government intrusion into our lives," "Big government is detrimental to economic development," etc., etc. So why is it that since the republicans have taken over the HOR and several of the state leadership, they have proposed, and in many state legislatures passed, several hundreds of laws regarding Government's right to invade a woman's privacy, to interfere with contraceptive care, to restrict or outlaw gay marriage, to try and reverse the separation of church and state, and to basically try to tell you how to run your life? Why is that? Doesn't the term "Big Government" refer to multiple government mandates meant to interfere with your life?

C'Mon there Kama, explain that one to me....

Not if the GOP nominee is Santorum. This is guy who wants to trash the 1st Amendmant because he wants America to be a Christian nation, who thinks people shouldn't go to college because it's a place for liberal indoctrination. How paranoid is he to actually be AGAINST education? He'll scare the moderate independents into Obama's camp if nothing else

Frank

What planet are you on? Do you not remember what happened in 2008? Did you think jobs would come back immediately??

Gas was $4.21 in July 2008...why do I see folks saying it has "never been this high"?

TO: frankbrown who wrote:

"What is it that you are too stupid to see the Out of Control spending that is intended to BK us or his anti Energy policies that are helping gas get to $5 a gallon finally maybe you like the Longest High Unemployment numbers ever with no relief in sight LOL..."

What is it that YOU were too stupid to see the Out of Control spending when Republicans did it with the specific intent to BK this country to make their terrorist friends happy, and it's the Republicans' addiction to the middle east oil teet who are running up energy prices.

The only time we've EVER had to worry about high unemployment numbers is when Republicans get in and rob this country blind of every penny they can find from every corner of our nation, and now Republicans are trying to get another JOBS CREMATOR, Mitt Romney, in to finish Republcan Devastation to America and the American People.

You have to be a complete idiot to vote for ANY Republican.

Obama / Biden 2012 (in a historic landslide LOL).

kama - I know the right is really bad at math, so I'll help you out here

The Washington Post:

If you thought you were living through a particularly nasty presidential primary season, turns out you were right.

Four years ago, just 6 percent of campaign advertising in the GOP primaries amounted to attacks on other Republicans; in this election, that figure has shot up to more than 50 percent, according to an analysis of advertising trends.

What everyone needs to remember is this..its politicas..and not one person running for office today..especially on the republican side for now..have a real clue as to what truth is or even means. Neither party is above telling lies to get someone elected or relected. In the case of the republicans...folks need to really hear what these guys Romney and Santorum are saying...Do I want Santorums religious beliefs running the USA..no way..nor do I want a ceo such as Romney..who has no clue what the middle class and everyone else are going through in todays economy. Both of these guys are pushing for even more in tax breaks for their friends...and higher taxes on everyone else. Both have talked about jobs..neither one has talked about what they would do other than cut taxes more on big business..many of which pay less in taxes now than many of the general public.

The biggest intrusion into personal life is all of these laws trying to invade a woman's body. Talk about "Big Government?!?! These fanatic, repulsive, disgusting, dirty old men want to poke a woman's vagina and they'll make it a state law to do so! How intrusive is that?!? It reminds me of the Nazis when they told people what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. It won't be long before these religious whacks start telling you how, when and where to have sex. They're already trying to tell you who to have sex with......PATHETIC!!

PolitiFact Florida:

"During the final presidential debate Sen. John McCain argued that Obama had 'spent more money on negative ads than any political campaign in history,' while Barack Obama accused Sen. McCain of running an entirely negative campaign," the report said. "In a way, both candidates were correct. .... At certain points in the campaign Barack Obama aired nearly as many negative or contrast ads as John McCain aired altogether. As a proportion, however, it is clear that most of McCain's ads were negative in tone."

The Washington Post's The Fact Checker examined the same claim and cited a study by University of Missouri professor William Benoit who is now a professor at Ohio University. We also spoke to Benoit.Benoit said he examined specific negative and positive statements in TV ads by the campaigns. One ad could have both negative and positive statements.

During the primary election, 19 percent of the statements he examined in McCain ads were negative, while for Obama 20 percent of statements were negative.

During the general election, Benoit found that 68 percent of the statements in Obama's ads were attacks while McCain's were 62 percent attacks. (Benoit did a separate analysis of Obama's 30-minute ad near the end of the campaign and found that only 18 percent of the statements were attacks as Obama tried to end on a mostly positive note.)

Benoit said that the difference in the general election in terms of percentages wasn't significant, concluding that about two-thirds of both campaigns' statements in the general election were attacks.

Benoit said he has analyzed TV ads back to 1952, and the only campaign that came close to that was Dwight Eisenhower's 1952 campaign -- 69 percent of his statements were negative.

So, kama, you seem to have a long-term memory problem (same as a lot of the GOP).

During Obama's primary against Hillary Clinton, only 20% of his ads were negative.

50% of your boys' ads are in negative territory already.

And the record is held by none other than Dwight Eisenhower (R).

none of this would have happened if all of you had simply elected Ron Paul the first bunch of times he ran :-)

Mitt Romney found himself fighting to infuse his presidential candidacy with new energy and stave off embarrassment in Tuesday’s Republican primary in Michigan

Impossible. He would have to shut up...be totally silent, and he is unlikely to do so.

The best thing for Obama would be if this whack job Santorum actually manages to upset Romney's apple cart on it's way to his "inevitable" nomination. The convention would certainly be more entertaining that way, and if Santorum wound up the final nominee, the election and both houses of congress will go hands down to the democrats. There is no way the moderate centrists of this country, (Ind., Dem. or Rep.) are going to vote for the frothy "Catholic Taliban" candidate.

TO: baliman who wrote:

"Hey dumbell..."

Whenever we see a post that starts off this way, we know exactly who and what you are: Hate-speech Republican.

Obama / Biden 2012

Kama,

I'm still waiting for a reply as to why it's OK for right wing HOR and state Governments to pass laws invading one's personal life?!

In fact, why don't any of you enlightened conservatives explain why it's OK for Government to invade your persnoal life, anyone!?!

Some Republicans think it might really be better for Santorum to win the nomination and inevitably lose to Obama. At that point, the 20% of extremists who have taken over the Republican Party can be controlled and reined in by the other, more normal 80% (yes, there are a lot of decent conservatives out there who are horrified by their party.) By 2016, Republicans might be able to reclaim their party from this extremist, Tea Party base.

On the other hand, if Romney gets the nomination and loses (a very real possibility), the Tea Party extremist types will get even louder, meaner and more determined to get their radical agenda passed in 2016. They will insist that they knew a "RINO" could never win, and that they need to go even further right. Normal Republicans will have to wait even longer to get their party back.

Yo-Ho:

Waiting....waiting.....crickets chirping....waiting......

I simply cannot look at Mitt Romney and see anything other than a plastic Ken doll.

And I always hated Ken.

RealAmericansFirst--What goes unsaid, in all the rhetoric on negative advertising, is the roll the MEDIA played in the 2008 SELECTION (by them!) of Obama. I quit WATCHING MSNBC, because EVERY ONE of their talking heads would show the Obama ads and then 'comment' on them positively, and then show the Hillary ads, and bring up Bill's history, etc.

The main stream media decided early on that it was more "sexy" to have Obama as the candidate.

This time, they are fostering the dissension (Fox too is guilty of this) because the competition feeds ratings for them too.

And that is a sad commentary, when the PRESS is picking our candidates based on who will be the most 'colorful' (NO attack on Obama intended, rather on his personality) NEWS source.

I guess you right wing nut jobs are waiting for Fox News to make some idiotic comment justifying Government's right to invade your privacy so you can then reiterate it.

You're all a bunch of minions, blindly following the Pied Piper. Wait, those were rats! You people do have a higher IQ than rats, right?

hahaha

Stay the course Mitt....you got MSNBC scrambling for anything they can get!!~ ABO2012

Mi is "open" and ALL people in MI should be voting. Best to vote for Santorum to send a message to Romney. No matter how ugly these Republican candidates are, we are fighting now to protect our Democracy. These jokers are Oligarchists. They think that this is THEIR TIME to take control of our country and overturn Democracy. Everything they do shouts it...They have attacked everyone and everything that we hold sacred. As a matter of principle, vote Republican today, and vote for Obama in November!!!!!

Yo-Ho

blahblah...In fact, why don't any of you enlightened conservatives explain why it's OK for Government to invade your persnoal life, anyone!?!

You are off topic...on purpose. Obama has failed and Romney is gonna show him the door.

All the GOP candidates have been conducting themselves like petulant children and are an embarrassment to America. The Republican Party platform is nothing more than, greed, racism, homophobia, division and fear. These things mixed with their own incompetence makes all of them unfit to govern.

The Republican Party has shown again and again they can not govern this country because their narrow minded ideology takes precedence over the needs of the country and it's people. They are very good at manipulating the media and lying to the electorate and by doing so their shrinking and under informed base still votes for them......but not for much longer the end is near and they know it.

Correct description of Mr. Obama, his Liberal Cabinet members, and his Czars:

"All the GOP candidates Obama Administration personnel have been conducting themselves like petulant children and are an embarrassment to America. The Republican Party platform This administration is nothing more than, greed, racism, homophobia, division and fear."

The latter sentence will continue by this Administration via Media Matters until the last vote is placed.

Mr. Obama's NEW campaign slogan: "Think not what I appear to be.....but what I AM !!!"

Actually the most negative campaign ever ran was by Obama against Hillary Clinton

Kama,

Sorry, but the facts don't back that up. There have already been counts of percentages of negative ads and several other factors comparing this season with the 2008 Democratic Primary and the current GOP mudslinging wins hands down.

The myth that Obama and Hillary were anything as vicious as this current slate is just the GOP trying to spin things in attempts to keep its base together.

I have no doubt that most GOP supporters will back whoever the nominee is, though., but they're not the problem. The problem is trying to win back the independents, moderates, and swing voters being turned off to the GOP brand by all the negatives.

There's also going to be a problem when the nominee is known to be overly negative and loose with the facts, since they won't have anywhere near the sting against Obama. People will expect hyperbole and "pants on fire" fact check statements and be so immune to it and tired of seeing it that they may ignore and just not believe most of the commercials.

In order for Romney to "stave off embarrassment" he will have to win by 15%. As big a fruitcake as Rick Santorum is, I don't think thats going to happen. That shows how out of his league Romney is. It's the George W Bush story all over again.

To be fair, its a largely blue collar voting range in Michigan that have a grudge against Romney. I am not sure that Michigan has much meaning as people are giving it. While Romney might be blue blood, awkward and an elitist. Santorum is a bible thumping theocracy screaming complete nut job. That usually only works in southern states...this is Michigans way of swatting down Romney for saying that they should have allowed the automobile industry to go down. While Santorum has also said that, lets face it, Romney has failed at really targeting Santorum for fear of annoying the bible beaters.

He said separation of church and state made him sick. He wants to throw out the first amendment of our constitution, and the one that the founding fathers found most important! If people bothered reading the writings of the founding fathers they would know that Santorum is saying everything opposite to what they believed. To everything that has kept us 250 years going strong.

1st Amendmant because he wants America to be a Christian nation,

According to the far left. Everyone who knows, meets him, figures out statements like this is just a bunch of bull.

DB Akron, I have listened to him, and all I hear is bible thumping garbage. Smoke and mirrors to cover his completely atrocious economic plan. Romney might be an elitist but his economic plan is far superior.

wealthy people lean conservative

you might want with draw the offer of $10,000 for proof.

When I researched the annual forbes 400 Wealthiest Americans In the top 25 was 1 more Democrat than Republican. The top 2 were democrats.

In 2010 Was about the same except most Republicans dropped a place or two and most democrats moved up a place or two. The same top two were still there.

I didn't bother in 2011. The top 3 were now democrats.

kama how soon you forget your negative ads...george bush vs john mccain courtesy of karl rove's machine which was about as nasty as one could get. republicans still hold the record for negative ads any day, any time.

Justoneguy:

You are off topic...on purpose. Obama has failed and Romney is gonna show him the door.

Two things... 1) How has Obama failed? For the most part, hes done a pretty solid job considering what he came into and how much Eric Cantor and friends have served only to stand in the way, rather than actually governing and / or using their positions in Congress for "restoring America."

2) How in the holy hell do you think Romney has a snowball's chance of winning the general election? The elephant in the room about Romney is that a party that consists of 70% self-identified Christians -- a party that is almost entirely about the Christian faith, is not going to be passionately behind a Mormon. Obama has a 51% percent approval rating right now. Republicans don't even like Romney. The math doesn't add up for Mitt.

To frankbrown; #1.5, who said: ".......................whoever wins this GOP primary will win in a historic landslide LOL"

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the last 20 years of our history when it comes to presidential elections. 20 years also happens to coincide with the entrenchment of the 24/7 media news cycle and the beginning of the ideological polarization of our society, so I don't see this trend bucking too soon.

It goes like this:

1. The incumbent sits back and lets the opposition engage in a mudslinging primary that weakens all of the potential candidates.

2. The "winner" of the opposition primary limps into the general election, only to get his hat handed to him by the incumbent.

3. The incumbent is re-elected.

4. During the 2nd term, the people become disillusioned with the party of the incumbent.

5. The opposition party successfully takes the presidency in the following election.

It's simply not the Republican's turn yet, frankbrown. You may not like to hear this, but what I've just spelled out is a fact of the last 5 presidential cycles. I'm afraid your prediction, quoted above, will prove to be in severe error.

I wish Romney would give up the blue-jeans look. He alway wears them when he's speaking to the "little people" and it doesn't work for him.

Some Republicans think it might really be better for Santorum to win the nomination and inevitably lose to Obama. At that point, the 20% of extremists who have taken over the Republican Party can be controlled and reined in

Except that Romney is no better than Santorum, and in many ways worse. And neither of them represents the 'extreme' wing of the party much more than the other.

If the extremist wing is only 20%, the 'sheep' wing must be at least 40%. Most Republican voters are moderate at heart, but they believe the tripe that is spoon-fed to them by racists like Rupert Murdoch and drug-addled college dropouts like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck.

It would be funny if it wasn't so scary.

Kid Rock is supporting Romney?

Well... he did start in swing music, flipped to rap, then flipped to rock, and now country.

Actually, makes sense.

A surge of santorum is very messy, so I can understand why Rick hates the EPA.

You neglected to mention the one term Bush Sr in the analysis but Ichabod, isn't far off. Its all the economy, if its trending upwards at all they win again. If it tanks they don't.

Where does this Akron nut job get his facts from? And who would believe him? What a chump.

Mi is "open" and ALL people in MI should be voting.

Just did on the way home from work. Yea, that's right rwnj's, a liberal that has a job and not living off of the government. Anyway, I voted for Sanitarium and I know a bunch of fellow democrats that are doing the same thing. WE all want to see Mitt's face when he has to face the press after losing his so called home state.

Kid Rock is supporting Romney?

Are you surprised? Bob Ritchie is worth $37 million. If I had that kind of money, I'd do the same thing. But who cares about him or any other celebrity for that matter. The real true representative of Detroit is Eminem and afaik, he's not supporting anyone.

You neglected to mention the one term Bush Sr in the analysis

That was Ronald Reagan's third term.

Sorry "been there, done that".

Ron Paul has also signed the pesonhood pledge which puts him in every bedroom, every vagina and every visit to an ob/gyn doctor. It will be the end of birth control pills and probably inter-uterian devices, and the end of helping couples get pregnant with in vitro fertilization. Every miscarriage will be investigated. In the case of ectopic pregnancies which if not treated properly, can lead to death, will have a higher probabily in resulting in the death of both the fetus and the mother. Just a few of the many implications for you to think about.

If Mitt wanted to avoid embarrassment the clown wouldn't be walking around in working mans clothes. As if he ever spent a day working in his life. Phony to the core.

To Jan21270:

I said the last 20 years, which was the 1992 election. This trend started with the Clinton Administration. I understand your point, however, and I apologize if I wasn't clear enough.

"Santorum is a agent of Satan and spits his words out of his butt, this loser walks with the Devil and for that hes in hell. The Demon is in a hole" ?

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm The "Frick & Frack" show! Does it even matter? ...

Too funny Mit and Kid Rock. Mitt thought it was something to do about rocking a little baby for a photo op! Like to hear Mitt name one of kids songs. No it is not"The wheel on the bus."

It never ceases to amaze me how short the memory of the right wing zealots is. This is for justoneguy.

justoneguy

"You are off topic...on purpose. Obama has failed and Romney is gonna show him the door."

You see Mr. justoneguy, your boy Kama is the one that got off course initially with his comment:

From Kama,

"Besides the GOP isn't self serving, they just believe the governemtn shouldn't be doing things that people should be doing."

I've just been asking for Mr. Kama, or any of you enlightened conservatives, to explain why the right wing nut job HORs and state governments believe it OK to pass laws that interfere with people's private life.

But again, you minions of the right are simply following your leaders -- the idiotic quartet. In their last debate, they scoffed at being asked questions by the moderator regarding contraception. "...it was not appropriate for a presidential debate." But, then, on their own, they spent over 15 minutes talking about contraception. What was even funnier is that the mindless minions in the audience booed the moderator for asking the question, but then sat there and listened to the idiotic quartet talk about contraception for 15 minutes -- stupidity knows no bounds.

Finally, for commonsnse,

"If the extremist wing is only 20%, the 'sheep' wing must be at least 40%. Most Republican voters are moderate at heart, but they believe the tripe that is spoon-fed to them by racists like Rupert Murdoch and drug-addled college dropouts like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck."

Your statement can easily be understood by the "Trip to Abilene" syndrome that afflicts the mindless. On a routine day, some guy saw a train and asked the conductor where it was headed. The conductor told him it was going to Abilene. Since he had nothing better to do, the guy jumped on the train and yelled "I'm going to Abilene!!" Several other folks saw and heard this and they jumped on the train also, and yelled "we're going to Abilene!" As the train made temporary stops at stations down the line, those on board kept yelling "We're going to Abilene." So, other folks at those stations jumped on board also. Soon thousands of people were on the train bound for Abilene. On the way, they partied, and made merry. The problem was that none of these mindless lemmings knew why they were headed to Abilene. Once they got to Abilene, they realized that they really didn't want to go to Abilene. They started asking one-another, "why did we come here?" the answer was, " I came because my friends did and I didn't want to make them feel bad." There was no though process, no analysis, no rationale, just following those that made them feel good. Same with the sheep wing of 40%.

The GOP has been embarrassing this COUNTRY for over 3 years now. Make that over 11 years. Honor simply does not reside in them any longer. Phony bastards one and all.

@Berndog

Where does this Akron nut job get his facts from? And who would believe him? What a chump.

Since he never attributes his rants I assume he pulls everything out his butt. Which actually explains the stink. He's one of those people who spews hatred just to spew hatred. He and the truth are not close, personal friends.

Yo-Ho...good show! Abilene...Abilene......prettiest town that I've ever seen, GOP there ...will treat you mean,...In Abilene...my Abilene.....

Waiting for the bill from the old republicans where a man who wants to have a vasectomy has to have his junk measured and have cam shoved up it so he can see his own stuff that he intends to block off. How about a bill where a man has to be measured for condom size and then has to wait to get them 24 hrs? This size is added to his medical records complete with photo. Santorum, Mitt, Gingrich , Larry, Moe , and Curley have to do it first, and all tea partiers next. Ron Paul was practicing Dr. he can do it for you! Virginia just passed bill forcing republican government rape of women wanting an aboration according to FBI description of rape. Governor to sign. Way to go Santorum!

But who cares about him or any other celebrity for that matter.

True... I just find it ironic that Romney picked Kid.

I mean, his songs are pretty anti-conservative.

"... Stop short-changing your neighbors, living off hand-outs and favors, and give a little bit more than you got to give" (redistributing wealth)

"... and if I get high stop being so uptight" (marijuana supporter)

"... it's only human nature, and I am not a stranger, so baby won't you stay with me tonight" (sex out of wedlock)

And that is just one of his recent songs. I am just shocked that the conservatives are not up in arms about this choice, considering how they reacted when the guy from the Gap commercial played at the White house. The Republicans picked his songs apart and crucified him... but they are cool with Kid Rock?

Seriously, I want Fox News to start going over the lyrics from his album "Early Mornin' Stoned Pimp" . . . and then explain to me, again, their problem with Common.

It really is amusing hearing trolls like "IDO" [post 1.32] shouting their lies in a lame attempt to distort the truth. People like "IDO" are what motivates Progressives to campaign even harder, thanks good buddy "IDO" keep up the good work you have a gift for getting Democrates out to vote....CAN YOU SPELL LANDSLIDE?

ron paul in the real world is kicking all there asses.but with the rigged diebolt machines made by a convicted felon.there will be nothing short of election fraud.for the love of god they got caught with election fraud in iowa and still havent handed out the delegates.ron paul called out the fraud in maine and they admitted they didnt count all of the ballots,the the districts where they dont count is where ron paul is blowing there doors off.its time to call the system out on the fraud,we know how the controled media has been treating paul like garbage,no more

RON PAUL IS MY PRESIDENT

The more that we see Santorum, Paul and Gringrich on the screen, the more likely that Obama will win.

Romney does not help them much either.

Can I get an "A-men!"

Amen!

I am a democrat but I wish ANY of the Republican contenders had an ounce of statesmanship. Integrity would be a bonus. Romney seems a privileged, out of touch with the middle class's reality, changing his stance as it is politically expedient, dog on the roof of the car, bet you $10,000 seriously, my wife owns A COUPLE OF CADILLACS, elitist, keep the rich rich, take away support for the poor, superficial Ken Doll. Santorum is an extreme evangelical, we should make my religious beliefs the absolute law for every body in the country, John F. Kennedy must have meant that no one who has a religion can participate in government??? and his speech made me want to vomit because I misinterpreted it so throughly. Lord Save Us Really! xSpeaker Gingrich who is not thought of well by many if not most of his own fellow Reb congressmen for the time he was speaker, a serial adulterer running for PRESIDENT in a party that crucified President Clinton for partial intimate congress with an aid, the Lobbying Historian of Freddie Mac (Hah), washington insider on K street, peddling access to government people and processes, let's go to the moon-populate it-and call it a state (The Loony State) that only rich people can afford to live there, (I do think it is a mistake to discontinue the space program). Ron Paul, yeh lets do away with The Environmental Protection Agency, yeah, that would be a good thing, they're just job killers, industry will police itself, after all look at their faultless record, and that annoying Department of Education, what good are they for the country?, don't get me started. Where have all the statesmen gone..long time passing. We got lucky with Obama. Hillary might not have been bad either. Bring on campaign finance reform!!! We have government by the wealthy now. Wake up!!!!

Puppet Leaders:

I'm not saying that there isn't election fraud here and there. Nor am I saying that every one of these has been 100% effectively managed, but it is pretty common for people who don't win to cry foul, or to reassure themselves that they were right in their support by blaming the system being rigged.

Ron Paul's polling has been consistent, and it hasn't consistently been enough to win these things.

....and I'd find it pretty hard to believe there is some big conspiracy to make Ron Paul's exit polls exactly the same as the actual polls. Which are exactly in line with both sets of polls from 2008's election.

First off i have to mention that i never personally attacked anyone. I was gone for the last day or so and return to find several person attacks ranging from my intelligence to my math skills. Well since i got a B+ in differential equations and an A in every other math class i think that's a little unfair. I'm also in pro-school for chemical engineering so i somehow doubt that arguing i'm stupid is a fair estimate since it frankly is the hardest degree offered here. I find it sad that so many liberals (and lets be honest if you look at the comments that were insulting me it was ALL liberals insulting me) feel the need to attack a person instead of having a meaningful exchance of ideas.

Second off I find it interisting that you believe that a womans right to control her body trumps the right of baby that is growing inside her, this is the fundamental arguement on the issue. I know that most liberals could NEVER admit that that is a human life growing in a woman, because doing so would mean you have to admit that your killing a human being. That is the basic difference on that point.

Barack Obama has a history of rewritting history as well as most liberal media outlets. Heck i got back today and saw a video of Obama saying how great the auto industry is rebounding! How they are running record profits after the bailouts. Completely glossing over the fact that A. Bush signed the bailouts for the auto industry (which i dont agree with i think they all should have done what Ford did) and B. There literally billions of dollars that aren't every going to be paid back. and C. It's pretty easy to run a profit when the government pays your bills.

Also i see a couple sources posted by some people showing how Obama didn't lead the most negative campagin ever. Well that's all great but i looked over your sources. Half of them i stopped bothering to read a long time ago because they were so obviously biased that you couldn't trust the information coming out of them. This also is a fundamental difference between Liberals and Conservatives. Your failure to acknowledge the bias in most media in favor of the democrats is astounding. I admit it Fox news is biased, but they're basically the only people biased conservatively in the news. If anyone is closests to true unbiased reporting it is fox news. So when i see links to Politifacts i have to laugh since as far as im concerned they've discredited themselves years ago.

my bad ....................sickening as the other stupid left wing saying WHATEVER both show stupidity.

oh great im good ..thank you

Turnout was expected to be about 15-20%,which is very low.

TO: Jimm-3229351 who wrote:

"Turnout was expected to be about 15-20%,which is very low."

It just goes to show, folks in Michigan are pretty smart. They are NOT going to run to the polls to vote between a Jobs Cremator and the next guy who wants to rule womens wombs.

Obama / Biden 2012

JOBS CREMATOR!

Yes, thank you, AG! That's exactly the phrase I've been looking for to describe Romney.

You are pretty proud of your womb now.

TO: Rick-312779 who wrote:

"You are pretty proud of your womb now."

I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but I do know that Republicans ain't gonna tell me what to do with mine. In fact, I don't even want Republicans talking about mine!

Obama / Biden 2012

I think the title of jobs Cremator should go to BHO. Look how many jobs have been cremated on his watch!

"Santorum is a loose nut. Where is the guys in the white"

@Cawf

You people just can't come up with anything original can you. You just steal everything and act like it was your idea. That's OK. Your time is limited.

The tea party couldn't come up with their own party so they had to take over the Republican Party. It explains their extreme lack of vision, originality or anything else. Just other peoples stuff. I wonder if it hurts to be this bereft of original ideas.

Rick-312779

You should be proud of wombs also. Remember, that's where you came from. How would you have liked it if some pathetic politician had invaded your mother's womb while you were in it?

“I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute.”

So you can vote for a guy who holds the Bible above the Constitution or you can vote for Mr. I Love the Lakes and the Trees. Tough choice. Either way, Obama wins.

I seriously doubt that any of us want to be in your womb. YOU are the one that came up with that statement. Just because a few misguided lawmakers come up with some weird laws it does not mean that we all agree with them.

Did you know that New Yorkers cannot dissolve a marriage for irreconcilable differences, unless they both agree to it.

hahahaha

I knew Kid Rock was a scumbag loser!

Welcome to the party of inclusion, Ron - too bad you missed the boat back in '08! All obstruction and bigotry aside, it's been a pretty good ride. Hopey-Changey? You bet, harried TeaBubbas!!

dudogger--Harried TeaBubbas?? I imagine the 'teabubbas' are not feeling too unhappy right now--despite the bump in Obama's 'popularity' v that of the pub candidates out there, it is NOT accompanied with any bump in popularity in Dem SENATORS running for re-election.

Hey Ron Brock

Welcome to the family of rational voters. When I look at the GOP in it's present malignant form I have to ask myself "are these Republicans for real". They are master liars, racists and manipulators of their so called 'FACTS'. They use religion like a weapon and batter, insult and bully every minority they can along the way. but in the end the fact remains............"You can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you can never fool all the people all the time" Abraham Lincoln............

In the end rational politics will return to America for one simple reason, the American people will demand it.

Gee, I was wondering who was going to pick up the "cue".

He ought to be embarrassed by his campaign song..."Born Free", really? Doesn't any conservative remember what happened to the Lions in the end?....We environmental, animal loving, peace freaks do....lmao.

thats ok road you can pay for it right

If you use the roads, have your garbage collected, have the fire department serving you have police protection, then you should pay your "fair share" regardless of your income, right?

right ...but y'all want all of that privatized..huh

Road Warrior - the things you speak of: roads, fire departments, police, are all paid for with LOCAL FUNDING... NOT FEDERAL FUNDING!

The repugs are a joke! I hope that this goes on at LEAST four more months! Ye Ha! Obama/Biden - 2012!

Road, I love it when you talk like that, cause it makes people never want to vote for any hate-speech Republicans.

Obama / Biden 2012

oh a private water company came and bought out the water district where i live ..in Beaumont TX...its called AQUA out of Pennsylvania..do you know what me and my fellow neighbors now have top pay for just water and sewer ..150 dollars a month..we went from 60 dollars from the city ..to yes your fine private company...a Wall street water company...oh and there are some who are will off in money and water there grass and even they are upset..you know what they pay around 3 hundred a month in water

do you see what the tea rashwant..all your money in wall street from the water you drink ..the road you drive they want it all..called capalist they say..greed is the real word

Road warrior,

47 percent of Americans do not pay any federal income taxes. The reason? Because they make so little money in the first place, they do not have any taxable income at the end of the year. They still pay federal payroll taxes. They still pay federal excise taxes. They still pay state and local property taxes. They still pay state and local sales taxes. By the way, many are elderly or retired too.

Not hardly, only if you're dumb enough to vote dimwhitcrap!

elvis,

Before you complain about your water bill, have your tap water lab analyzed. The higher price may be worth it if the water is filtered properly. Do you know what filtration process was used when government owned the plant and what process was used after it was privatized? Until you can answer that question, your complaint is baseless.

no our community has all tried to sue the water company..Aqua they are not tied to laws ..when they are private the customer gets screwed ...and you see people..greed is all it is...hey road...nederland TX ..filters the water yes the city as soon as it goes outside the city it is tap...and we are charge a high price from yes Aqua ..aqau does nothing nothing to the water but send us a bill and collect money..they pay a low payment to nederland tx..for there water...so what are they doing road .with the water..cleaning it...we have been drinking the same water from day one...as soon as they bought it wammo

oh we are drinking government water...its just private now...has people died from government water road have they..

elvis,

You did not answer my question. Have you been to the plant and identify the filtration process? AQUA is not only a potable water treatment company, but a wastewater treatment company as well. Have they been delegated by the city to do other waste treatement tasks not previously done by the city? Maybe that has something to do with your higher utility bill. You have to look at all angles to make a judgment. If you have the mentality that every company is out to get you, then there is really no sense in debating this further.

Oh yes, people die everyday from cancer. City water is full of "dissolved" chemicals from industry, agricultural and road runoff which cannot be filtered using conventional city filtration methods.

NO!; If you're one of the ONE (1)% who votes Repub. (GOP), you are ensuring yourself of "leech" status.

"AX THE TAX CODE".. For "TRUE TAX REFORM"..

i have answered you they have nothing here in TX...the water belongs to nederland TX local government..they saleit to aqua..they do nothing to the water...just like what i have said..even in Houston..all of us people in TX are fed up with this private aqua company..look at the law suits against them..we all talk to each other and stay in touch

do you know what aqua is doing they are going around the nation and talking to local city's about why don't they let them come in and take are of all there water and sewer problems..eliminating local government employees..Aqua has people who work for them most are low paying employees.no benefits nothing...some city's are taking them up on the offer..and people are the ones being screwed with a high water bill..the water is the same...your bill is not

Elvis - I checked out your statement regarding water in Beaumont . You inferred that the city's water system had been privatized and taken over by Agua of Penn. Actually records show that Aqua Plus in Beaumont, TX is a private company categorized under Bottled Water Delivery. Records show it was established in 1995 and incorporated in Texas

TO: Road Warrior-252445 who wrote:

"elvis,

Before you complain about your water bill, have your tap water lab analyzed. The higher price may be worth it if the water is filtered properly. Do you know what filtration process was used when government owned the plant and what process was used after it was privatized? Until you can answer that question, your complaint is baseless."

Wow, THAT'S what kind of mindset Republicans want the American People to buy into! How nasty.

We're gonna have to wait and see what Mr. Rick "$5 an hour is enough money for anybody" Perry is going to do about it, but it don't look good, it's probably Perry's cousin who owns Aqua, and no doubt Perry owns a ton of stock in Aqua.

If you wanna rip off consumers, take your business to a Red State where anything goes!

(Shakes head)...

we live outside of beaumont out in the country..a community outside the city...nederald tx provides us the drinking water because the city Left is to far....we are close to port Aurthur . nederlad txarea..the city of beaumont has city water it is not privatized yet..Aqua bought the rights to the pipe line that goes Thu our community ..we have no choice but to buy there water and service..it is called aqua of Texas..we corporation is in Pennsylvania ..and we all have to send our payments to a NJ address

My mother always told me two things we will be fighting over in the future water and oil

Not absolutely sure about TX/Aquapure, but most cities are getting out of the 'water delivery' systems to get out from under expensive LABOR UNION contracts.

And my little burg in MO is having a SEWER company forced on us by the government. We went from paying NOTHING to paying $40 a month PLUS electricity to run their pumps. Want to know why? Because I live on the Lake of the Ozarks, and all these homes have SEPTIC tanks, and many of the people who live here have not done proper maintenance on those for DECADES-resulting in sewage leeching into the lake. (one home near me was running a HOSE from their washing machine directly to the lake to avoid any FURTHER overfill of his septic tank, which was already 'oozing' up thru the grass in his yard.)

So your problems in TX may stem from poor home/business ownership practices, and also from vastly increased population taxing your existing systems beyond their ability to handle it.

system broke--47% pay NO federal income tax? Yep--and those SAME folks ALSO pay little to no PROPERTY tax, or STATE income tax, either. Meanwhile, as a group, they have more BABIES than most, which means they exponentially increase the amount of COSTS they incur via education costs.

And in MY state, there is no sales tax on food/drugs, and once a year, many of the towns also give a 'sales tax holiday' on the purchase of clothes and school supplies.

So NO, they do NOT pay much if anything in taxes, and CERTAINLY not enuf to pay for their share of the road maintenance, police/fire protection, water and sewer, et al, MUCH LESS the $7500 PER YEAR per kid for education.

no its called privatized...look them up...they have con our government..bet they are tea trash .funny to see all the people driving on the side roads to avoid high pay tolls in Houston...thanks republicans for helping out ordinary folks

One really striking habit I have noticed from liberals is their inclination to come to certain conclusions that don't always have facts to back them up. First they start off with words like "probably" then graduate to words like "no doubt" The next thing they are leaving those out and repeating the same as though they are direct quotes. The most famous example is the "I can see Russia from my front porch" quote.

American Girl-724855

We're gonna have to wait and see what Mr. Rick "$5 an hour is enough money for anybody" Perry is going to do about it, but it don't look good, it's probably Perry's cousin who owns Aqua, and no doubt Perry owns a ton of stock in Aqua.

"say something often enough, it becomes accepted as fact".

Road,

You seem pretty high on well maintained infrastructure. So why is it that your HOR tea party nut jobs refused to support Obama's bill in suport of infrastructure repairs? Is it difficult to speak with that forked tongue?

Oh, rick and db, I hate to burst your bubble, but the candidates and general spokespeople who are loosest on truth and facts aren't liberals...lol. Really, try something believable..lol.

If you use the roads, have your garbage collected, have the fire department serving you have police protection, then you should pay your "fair share" regardless of your income, right?

Gosh am I the only person on here that pays extra for all that stuff? I'd like to live in your happy land.

ram-762581

At least I gave some examples. How about you?

Sad... THAT'S not going to happen!

Most Democrats I know in states with open primaries are voting for Romney. As fun as beating Santorum would be, there is too much fear that enough crazy things could happen that the man could become President. At least Romney, with all his many faults, seems like a moderate, smart enough man that he might be an adequate President. Terrible campaigner though.

It's a calculated risk. Santorum as president does frighten me to the core, though.

Romney is not as moderate as I first thought. When you dig down into his policies (the latest incarnation; after most recent flip-flop) they are pretty regressive.

TO: Reader-2838471 who wrote:

"Sad... THAT'S not going to happen!"

Why, do you think Republicans are willing to come out and vote for Romney, who's the guy who wanted them to lose their jobs and their pensions? That sounds pretty nuts to me that ANYBODY in Michigan would even consider voting for the guy who would do that kind of dirt to them, and, if Romney were to get in office, he STILL COULD.

Oh well, just declare the Republican Party--brain dead, and pull the plug.

I read through alot of these "political post" the left seem to do on this site. Almost all of them are half intellectual or completly insultive. Most statements on here have no facts to back them up. Also when you "all" start your statements with something negative you generally lose interest from readers. Hence, why more and more people avoid the left now since it has become the most negative, hateful, cheap shotting people you will ever meet. They hate anyone who isn't for their views and then throw out insults to prove it!

Joe2bear

I read through alot of these "political post" the left seem to do on this site. Almost all of them are half intellectual

I would agree, but politicians chose to run for office, no one makes them run. Millions and billions are spent on an election, and the people get very little, if any benefit from them. To me the things that Santorum, and the rest do and say cause great suffering to women, children, veterans, and other persons who have done nothing but try to survive and be accepted. Politicians single out the weak, the poor, and the helpless, and characterize them as lazy, second class, or should just die because they are of no value. Lincoln would have no respect for persons assaulting the principles he lived and died for, and there simply is no one that can fill his shoes, in the Party of Lincoln.

Jensen,

I have to agree with you 100% about the party of Lincoln. If that party would return the nation might be re-united and gain national vision.

I am so tired of the attention to all the non- important issues like birth control, the color of a persons suit, their hair...what about our involvement in current wars? Our budget? Our loss of leadership in this nation?Our Constitutional Rights? Our need to restructure the way both houses create law they are immune too? Illegal immigration and real solutions? Campaign finance laws? Lobbyist? Real bank and finance reforms? Energy policy? Foreign policy? There are enough real issues to keep us all busy creating a better future together. The rest just seems to be a divide and conquer ploy by both parties.

Oh Joe2bear, you are just insulting everyone to be part of the group...welcome! So... Lefties are half intellectual and completely insultive by your words. Let us know when lefties are not intellectuals and completely insultive like righties so we can celebrate to being equal to righties!

sorry but we know who the real devil is this time around

Obama is the boss. Most people have little idea what is going on in the political arena and whose fault it is. All they see is what they pay at the pump, whether they have a job and their grocery bill.

Americans caught onto the gas distraction 3-4 elections ago, If a Democrat is in office gas prices soar during an election year, It has nothing to do with what kind of job he is doing and everything to do with keeping $10's of billions in subsidies flowing to oil companies worldwide despite the record profits they are reporting.

yes just look at carter we can call it a carter election huh road

Hmmm, gas prices soar in the summer of 2008. Were the Koch Brothers trying to make Bush look bad or were they trying to keep another Republican from getting the WH? LOL

Hmmm, gas prices were $1.76/gallon when Bush left office. Read a book, Road Warrior.

When gas was merely $2.30 in 2004 the dems were gripping and moaning about how Bush was to blame. But now that Obummer is in, the tune has been changed to "he can't help what oil companies charge!".

If God were dissatisfied with our Commander in Chief, he might have provided a viable alternative. The high price of gas, and lingering unemployment are not sufficient to outweigh the accomplishments and the healing. Much still needs to be carried out.

no the economy was doing great..and guess what the @!$%# hit the fan.....there intentions yes the oil company's was 8 dollars a gallon go back to the archives and listen to the market speculators before the crash.

No Obama's reckless economic spending have cost this nation dearly in the value of the dollar. Thank Barry for all this

For those upset with the rise in gasoline prices at the pump, get your GOP House to pass laws which give the President the authority to freeze pump prices. Better for the consumber but not so good for the oil corporations. What's that GOP? You don't believe in government control of the market? You prefer a free market? Then, pony up the extra price per gallon.

The only way the price of gas becomes a November issue is if the prices don't go down as they normally do in the Fall. People won't remember summer gas prices, especially if they've gone down at all. This election is about jobs and the economy, and almost everyone grudgingly acknowledges that the President has very little to do with the price of gasoline.

Politico has the President's approval up to 53%, which is tied to the increasing optimism that the economy is improving. And the 4 remaining GOP candidates, who are helping Obama every day. Every poll except Rasmussen (typically the conservative outlier) has the President's disapproval 50% or under.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Clotho--hate to tell you this but the reason the price of gas has so many worried is because the SUMMER gas price increases usually start in LATE MAY, not in late FEB.

And MIke--you DO know that a republican controlled HOUSE cannot do ANYTHING while the senate is DEM controlled? And vice versa?

TO: Road Warrior-252445 who wrote:

"In any presidential election, it is always about the incumbent's record that eventually decides the winner..."

Still trying to pass off Bush's B.S. huh. If it weren't for the fact that Republicans tore this country up, and hammered the American People so bad, you might have had a point during any other year, except this one.

This time around, Republican mess was so bad it took a whole lotta work to dig through all the crap Republicans left behind.

Obama / Biden 2012

American girl= You must have such a short memory and so your so narrowed sighted on your own views it sickening. As I recall was had the biggest boom of jobs and housing during the bush years, then when the domocrats took over the senate and house in the last two years the economy collasped. Also If I recall Bill Clinton passed the bill on where banks would have to do risky loans and approve lower credit ratings and also lower incomes. What was the result? The collaspe of the housing market? Also if I remember in 2004 President bush and McCain tried to overhaul and regulate freddie mea and mac. But the democrats blocked this. Don't believe me look it up yourself!

CNR, that's because the loonie left wing libs are two faced hipocrites.

When the bright conservative horde began their run for the white house, it was jobs, the economy and the deficit. Well, Jobs are on the rise, the economy is coming back to health, and the republicans seem to have just as much an affinity for the deficit as the democrats do.

So, then it was Healthcare....Obamacare is the Armageddon of humanity. Well, more and more people are changing their mind about that nasty Obamacare to the point that no one cares anymore.

Then it was "Obama is trotting on our constitutional right of freedom of religion by forcing chuches to fund contraception." Well, that's sort of gone by the wayside.

Then it was the evil woman that keeps having an abortion every minute of the day. She must be stopped! We’ll insert things into her body; Oh, since we're nice perverts, we will let the woman decide from what part of her body she can be violated. Well, that's not going very far either.

So, what is there for the righteous horde to pick on as a reason to oust the devil Obama – Joy! Just in the nick of time! Gas prices! The higher gas prices saved the day. The conservative horde can now cry foul because it's all Obama's fault that gas prices are going up. Yeah! That's good enough for now. Let's jump on that wagon for a while. We will not even consider that the poor, hard working oil magnets have been posting record profits and that they just want enough money for their modest retirement.

How pathetic are you people. Just like you can decide on your candidates, you similarly can't decide on what to whine about -- probably because you don't have a real clue and keep reaching for straws.

Hey! Stands to reason! Flavor of the month candidate is matched by flavor of the month complaint.

Cawf

The term is "hypocrites." Hipo-crites" are very large mammals that get pi$$ed off at anything that moves, kind of like the tea-p-ocrites.

Joe2bear

You're a prime example that home schooling doesn't work. You should take remedial night courses so you can learn to write. We won't even touch on your completely erroneous commentary. Stop watching Fox News, it will kill what few active brain cells you have left.

You must have such a short memory and so your so narrowed sighted on your own views it sickening. As I recall was had the biggest boom of jobs and housing during the bush years

You're kidding right? I mean you don't actually believe this do you? We hemorrhaged jobs in the Bush years. Anything that wasn't white collar banking moved to some third world sweatshop because the Bushies had interests in China. Papa Bushie started it when he was in office by visiting the Chinese and making nice then Jr. continued it. All the while Darth Cheney was raping the country and handing the corpses to big energy behind closed doors.

As to housing, we know how that worked out don't we? And Clinton has acknowledged his part in the errors of NAFTA and deregulation. Don't hear any of the Republicans crying mea culpa. Oh yeah that right they aren't sorry because they got rich, rich, RICH off the train wreck they helped create.

yes i can see them now at the booth election day F- Obama..when the curtain close F that. where is Obamas name at...when they come out and met there friends i did it i hate obama..hahaha

Actually neither of those were nearly as stupid as Joe asking the crippled guy to stand up.

Bo-1925019

I thought you might enjoy reading this article about a couple of those nasty senators who are defending the oil sussidhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/mary-landrieu-mark-begich-oil_n_860743.htmlies:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/mary-landrieu-mark-begich-oil_n_860743.html

BO- Once again a short sited liberal who only see the last few years and nothing past that. Look at the great depression. How was if solved? They let the business fall, which forced the business to restructure and to get rid of the all the bad business that was happening from the inside. But nope this president bailed out these "Bad businesses" and now none the bad has been taken out. Since most of them just gave their executives bonuses with our bailout money and didn't restructure, I predict the collaspe of these businesses again by the end of this year. But you can keep believeing everything is ok and well all just hold hands and sing. Liberals blindness and lack of histroical education is astonishing!

wow. I mean wow. do you know anything about the great depression and how it decimated people's lives? this is really a dumb statement.

Joe2bear

It's bad enough that your writing crap; but having to try and understand what your saying is really painful. Use a spell checker and a sentence corrector...PLEASE!!

By the way, whatever economics course you took that imparted such wisdom is sure to make a hit with the "home-schooling" crowd....keep'm as confused and as ignorant as possible. Then, we'll all sing "Alleluia."

The left was wishing and laughing all the way to the convention for a Reagan candidacy. They laughed even harder when the polls had Carter ahead 65-31. The laughter turned to tears in November. Not only the left lose to a ultra right winger, but that guy gave them justices Scalia, Rehnquist and O'Connor. Pretty scary, huh? Ginsburg retires next year and we get another Scalia.

Reagan was so moderate that he would be barred from today's GOP with its Santorium teabagger majority.

Mike,

Reagan moderate? The longest lasting legacy of a president is the judges he appointed to the Supreme Court. Reagan gave us Scalia and Rehnquist, two of the most right-wing ideologs on the court. Reagan was also joined at the hips with Reverend Billy Graham. And he fired the union air traffic controllers.

Yep--Reagan fired the UNION air traffic controllers.

And that was enough for ME to voter for the man, even tho I didn't agree with a lot that he did.

Mike - Santorum so far hasn't cornered the market on the Tea Party. Surprisingly Romney has been getting between 25 % & 31%. Ron Paul is getting around 15%. Gingrich is getting between 30 & 35% of the tea party.

In Michigan, Romney is edging out Santorum for the Republican vote, but Santroum is enjoying a 4-3 edge on the independent and democrat votes - and it's really ticking Romney off so much he just shipped out an attack add on Santorum for it.

Road,

It's interesting on how one can spin anything to justify whatever twisted logic he's is trying to convey. Reagan raised taxes seven or eight times, raised the deficit to the outer limits (for that time) in his battle to undue the USSR -- drove the economy into recession in the process. Ronald Ragan, by today's right-wing standards would be a freaking left-wing socialist.

hahahaha

Who is Mike?

Mike is mic's younger brother who decided not to go to college.

I guess Croaker the Toad has not done his homework on all of the candidates. I have, and it would be best for our country that Mr. Obama be a 1 term president.

Carole--and in fairness, I'm not so sure that that isn't ALWAYS the case--to limit each president to one term.

I like this idea but the problem is that they don't really learn how to do the job until the end of that first term. There is no training ground for being president of the united states.

I actually think the president should be appointed by a random lottery of all voting age adults and should serve 2 years. How much worse could it be than what we have now?

I'll bet the average guy off the street would take it much more seriously than most of these candidates do.

George W. Romney, Willard's father, ran for President in 1968. The Romney sign was for the dad. The sign I saw had his father's picture on it, and he looks a lot like Willard.

George Romney would probably be labelled a socialist today.

In 1960, as the CEO of American Motors Corporation, George Romney refused a $100,000 bonus because he believed that no executive needed to make more than $225,000 annually (about $1.5 million today.) Can anyone imagine a CEO today refusing a bonus because he already made enough money?

http://hnn.us/articles/mitts-verbal-gaffes-shows-when-it-comes-politics-hes-not-his-fathers-son

a 4 pt win in Michigan is not going to help Mitt.

Well, thank God Mr. Romney does not push his religion on anyone.

Although the polls show a variety results - the one to watch is PPP (D). PPP has overstated Romney by 1 - 2 points and understated result for Santorum 1 - 6 points. The latest PPP poll shows taken yesterday shows Santorum up 1 with the trend over the last two days of the undecided breaking in favor of Santorum.

Arrizona is another story. There is one local poll saying that Santorum was down 4 points three days ago, but the the rest saying Santorum is down 11 - 13 points. I don't have a real good feel about Arizona because a number of those "better" polls were showing Santorum within 5 or 6 points a weak ago. There was no slide away, but rather a Jump. I'm thinking the truth is Santorum loses by 5 -7 points in Arizona. Or else there is a really big surpise coming.

Out of context

Out of context

Out of context

Good try.

Let Detroit go bankrupt, That'll get a lot of workingclass votes in Michigan

If you're dumb enough to believe that's all he really said, you shouldn't be eligible to vote.

Im not either they are lazy SOB`s that dont deserve to be fed unless they are handycapped F the poor .

At least Romney's honest. The democrats don't care about the poor either. Cigarette tax, gas tax, booze tax, all regressive and poor are hardest hit by them. Democrats could care less. They want more taxes for more money to be spent in their districts so they can get re-elected and have a building named after them. Actually there's far more poor people in this country since Obama got elected. And that's a fact.

Yes Romney "mentions the safety net' , but it's the "Safety Net" that the GOP is doing its damndest to DESTROY!!

Taxing booze, tobacco, and gambling not be progressive, but it sure gets a few poor folks to cut back a bit for their own good. And all politicians are fully engaged in enriching their friends, which explains the propaganda against a very successful president.

Andrew--NICE way to take Romney's statement out of context. What he SAID was "I'm not concerned for the very poor because we have in place programs to help them and can pass more as needed. I'm not concerned for the very RICH because they don't NEED our help. I'm concerned for the MIDDLE class, which is falling thru the cracks."

You have a fine career ahead of you in writing nasty campaign ads with no regard for the WHOLE truth.

TO: gensch who wrote:

"At least Romney's honest..."

I'll bet you $10,000 he's NOT.

You are right, there was more to that quote. It actually went like this...

"I care about Americans, I don't care about the poor."

American girl- You make such great arguements! " I'll bet you $10,00 he's Not". You honostly got me sold. You didn't have to say more than a few words to get me to switch parties! Hey guyz I'm a liberal now! Man now only if I can convince the other millions of Americans with common sense to believe my short phrase statements that have absolutly no grounds to stand on!

Yes the not very concerned about the poor is taken out of context, but if you really think about it even in context it wasn't so great. The safety net is supposed to keep you from falling to your death, not become a hammock. There needs to be a path to self-sufficiency whenever possible, or the safety net becomes a prison.

Romney does not get the full picture.

The whole reason we had a crash in 2008 was not a failure in leadership of a president, but a failure of leadership in congress FROM BOTH PARTIES who had a majority of members being more concerned about poor people getting houses they couldn't afford, under the delusion that the poor people would vote for them in droves. The only big voting block of people voting for these blokes were people who think they are intellectuals and intellectuals.

Please, you're going to argue he's taking it out of context? Romney has placed adds that deliberately take Obama out of context. I believe he defended it by saying "what's good for the goose" or some @!$%#. So right back at him.

Have you missed the point that Michigan is Romney's home state and location of his families political "clout",,,,,,,,,,Kinda like finding out your friends and neighbors can't stand you?

He hasn't lived there for over 40 years Einstein - that's 2 generations ago.

Tell that to Romney. He's the one who speaks as if Michigan is still his home. He even knows what the trees look like and where the lakes are. If he's been away for 40 years, then a loss in Michigan should be no big deal.

That's true, Bo, and the US isn't Obama's home country. How could I have missed those points :)

TO: baliman who wrote:

"He hasn't lived there for over 40 years Einstein - that's 2 generations ago."

Right, so why is he pretending he's "home"? Sure born and raised there, and then took the first thing smokin to get the heck outta there as soon as he possibly could and never turned back, except to wish Michigan a very happy bankruptcy.

Obama / Biden 2012

BHO pretends he's home when he's in HI.

You'd be surprised there is NO mention of the separation of church and state in the constitution. There is no need for there to be. If the gov't acts within the parameters clearly enumerated in Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution we won't have any trouble.

Lawyer here. Real one, not internet scholar. Sure there is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause

also here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Exercise_Clause

"The Jefferson quotation cited in Black's opinion is from a letter Jefferson wrote in 1802 to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, that there should be 'a wall of separation between church and state.' "

Also significant is the Treaty of Tripoli, signed in 1796 by President John Adams:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

I was not trying to say that the Constitution permits an establishment of religion. My point was that people often erroneously throw the phrase "separation of church and state" around, when it is textually NEVER found in the Constitution. The "Establishment Clause" interpretted properly does not ban religion from gov't, rather, it ensures personal liberties are not violated by our gov't trying to force a religion on it's citizens.

The letter by Jefferson is a good display of the founders intent to keep gov't policy from favoring a religion, but does not have constitutional authority. The document at question was The U.S. Constitution, not all literature related to the subject of 'the separation of church and state".

Conservative Not Republican - good name. Our problem today is we have several justices that prefer to interpret in relation to European law - which the Forefathers rejected. We also have one justice that thinks our constitution is antiquated, that there are better constitions to that should be used.

BTW Clotho wouldn't stand a chance against a Phd in constitutional law I know.

I would be ashamed to vote for these suckers for any reason. Just think if something happened and he won? Scary, and who knows with all the money that these sale outs have. Gerrymandering? Rigged voting machines in the south? New voting laws restricting voters from voting? Believe you me, money is the root of all evil, and these jokers have all they want and most of what is in the whole country. WAKEUPAMERICA.

What you wish for will be the democrats political undoing.

Obama set the president that you dont need a Birth Cert or be American Born ..............PAY ATTENTION LOL

frankbrown

I see your grasp of the English language (and spelling) is right up there with your grasp of reality...

TO: frankbrown who wrote:

"Obama set the president that you dont need a Birth Cert or be American Born ..."

Carnival barker.

Frankbrown- Please correct your statements before you make them or proofread them. To American Girl once again you like a good comment but just a insult which as I said in earlier statements are most liberals statements. " Well we can't defend our policies, actions, or agenda so we'll go with insults and calling people racist! That always works!"

Correcting myself I meant to say instead of this "you like a good comment" it was "you lack a good comment"

frankbrown

$10,000 says you are wrong.. put your money where your big mouth is.

Regarding high prices for gasoline and electricity, what Obama wants is for the House GOP to give him the power to freeze market prices for these commodities. Think the GOP House will give him that power? It would bring down prices. Of course, it would reduce corporate profits, but Mitt would be OK with that, right?

Thinkbrown

If Rommel Romney goes up against the President in the general election, he WILL be very embarrassed in the severe public spanking he gets from President Obama,

Mike--sorry, but IF Obama really wanted the authority to 'freeze' the price of oil (when he has repeatedly stated in the past that the only way to reduce american's love affair with GAS is to INCREASE the price so high that they will do anything to avoid paying that) he would have gotten his DEM controlled SENATE to introduce that, and let the pubs justify to their constituents why they voted against keeping the cost of gas low.

Of course, he DOESN'T want that power, because anyone who knows ANYTHING about it knows that if you FREEZE prices of US oil companies, they will just not sell to US. Result? Lower supplies, gas lines, etc.

TO: frankbrown who wrote:

"You people are very ignorant in thinking anyone really cares about these Primaries once we get Romney against Obama and show how bad of a job Obama has done and are reminded that in 2007 he said these High prices are what he wants ..."

Republicans want to show US how bad a job Obama has done, just like Republicans showed us how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.

It'll take 100 years before I believe ANYTHING a Republican says after the way Republicans lied to us the entire time they had the White House under GWB.

Obama / Biden 2012

frank-there is enough people in this country that are not just ignorant racists looking for reasons to hate Obama. Obama has had very little effect on the guess prices. However, the republicans holding up the Keystone pipeline up so they can use it against Obama might be the biggest oil joke of all.

Keep up the lies and more Americans hear them all the time, and Obamas numbers just get better.

Jan- Another liberal using the racists card! Oh man when can we just get passed this subject. We as a party of conservatives hate goverment when it gets to big and tries to control the country with many laws. We as a people should hate higher taxes. This is the base of conservatitism, but of course since the president is black, we all hate him becuase he is a black man but not his poilicies, even if we say we don't agree with his policies and the job he has done but say hes a good man and a great father I would still be labeled a racist! Get real now and stop calling us racist when you have no footage, no grounds, no common sense to even prove that we did anything racist against President Obama. Also the keystone pipeline would have created 100,000 jobs over so many years which is why republicans hold it against him. Yes I agree that we should have our oil be supplied here and not exported so it would lower our fuel cost but I don't see obama trying to pass a bill in the first place to make this happen. Also he had complete control of the house, senate and WH the first two years and could have easily gotten this done but of course he didn't AKA his polices don't work!

Joe2bear: of course not all hate Obama for his race, but if you are honest there is something that a lot of people do not like and the falsification of his place of birth, his religion, his loyalty to the country lead many of us to wonder what is it about him that brings out this much emotion- because politically he is far far from being a leftist radical.