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Subscribe to RSSWhen Rick Santorum told a Michigan crowd they had come to see him because "freedom is at stake in this election," a man in the crowd shouted a word that's almost never heard at Mitt Romney's campaign events: "Amen!"
When Romney went to Milford, Mich., to talk to tea party voters, he took a handful of pre-screened questions from event organizers. After Santorum wrapped up a 30-minute speech to several hundred tea partyers early on a Saturday in St. Clair Shores, he picked hands eagerly waving in the audience.
"I can't get out of here alive without taking a few questions," the former Pennsylvania senator said.
Presidential candidate Rick Santorum touts his "positive message of hope" on jobs and the economy in the upcoming Michigan primary.
Day by day, event by event, Michigan's critical primary on Tuesday is crystallizing the dramatic differences between Romney, the on-again off-again GOP front-runner, and Santorum, his current top challenger for the Republican presidential nomination.
The two men are running almost neck-and-neck in this struggling Rust Belt state, but as the two campaigned just miles apart on Sunday, the voters they spoke to were as different as the messages they brought and as the campaigns they are running.
See related: Santorum bets he connects better in Romney's home state
The contrasts are both stylistic and substantive, and they illustrate why Romney, a multimillionaire business executive and a Mormon, is suddenly struggling in the presidential primary in the state where he was born and raised as he runs against Santorum, a strict Catholic who wears sweater vests and highlights his background as the senator from another suffering manufacturing state, Pennsylvania.
Standing at a podium in a nightclub on the outskirts of town, Santorum outlined a vision of American greatness driven by the workers who he says built it.
"We know what works in America. Bottom up. Bottom up has built a great country," Santorum told a crowd of about 600 on Sunday. Many were still dressed in their church clothes; others wore Detroit Red Wings jackets and camouflage hunting caps.
He spoke for nearly an hour before taking questions, the crowd following him the whole time, whistling and cheering and shouting back, running through the Declaration of Independence like a call-and-answer sports cheer.
"They are endowed by their — " Santorum started. "CREATOR!" the crowd shouted back.
When a young girl standing near the stage piped up: "You should be president!," Santorum smiled and thanked her. "Out of the mouths of babes," he said to the crowd, referencing Matthew 21:16.
And when a reporter mingled with the crowd and approached him after the event, Santorum stopped to answer a question about whether he supports raising the minimum wage along with inflation, as Romney has said he does.
"I am not in support of that. That's inflationary and doesn't make any sense," Santorum said. "It's bad policy."
A few hours later at a soaring ballroom in the Park Place Hotel downtown on Sunday night, a state representative and a congressman stalled for about 45 minutes before Romney stepped onto the stage at the front of the room, an enormous campaign sign hanging behind him.
He spoke for about 20 minutes, offering his standard campaign speech with some added focus on his Michigan roots.
"The right course for America is to believe in free people and free enterprises — and I do and I will," Romney told the crowd of about 700, some men in jackets and one with a ball cap advertising the Jack Nicklaus-designed golf courses at the nearby Grand Traverse Resort. He cited the "pioneers and innovators" who helped America thrive and said: "Their success did not make us poorer. Their success made us better off!"
Romney earned more laughter than usual for mentioning his boyhood cross-country road trips in his parents' Rambler, the audience obviously familiar with the old model of car his father retooled when he was running American Motors. The hometown crowds are more at ease with Romney than those in other states, but his interactions with voters throughout his events are shorter and much less frequent than Santorum's.
Romney barely mentioned religion, stopping only to emphasize the reference to the creator in the Declaration of Independence and citing the motto, "In God We Trust."
Romney hasn't appeared at or held a public event at a church since he announced his bid for president in June, though he has attended Sunday services — joining a Mormon congregation in West Des Moines the weekend before the Iowa caucuses, for example.
He focuses on his general economic message instead.
"If you want someone who will dramatically and fundamentally change Washington and bring you less government and more jobs, then I'm you're guy," Romney said Sunday night, a version of a line he's repeated countless times.
Then the former Massachusetts governor took pictures and signed autographs.
But he took no questions. Romney hasn't responded to questions from the national traveling press corps in 19 days, and attempts to approach him after campaign events are met with a smile — and no other response.
As Santorum and Romney enter their final day of campaigning in Michigan, they are both looking to win over the thousands of voters who have been out of work for years as their state has struggled to replace the blue collar manufacturing jobs that powered its economy for decades. Santorum is directly appealing to the Michigan's vibrant tea party movement and religious social conservatives.
In early primaries and caucuses, exit and entrance polls show Romney has done far better among higher income voters than he has with those who make less than $50,000 a year. And people who don't identify themselves as evangelical Christians backed him in much higher numbers than those who say they are evangelical.
As he looks to take on Romney, Santorum is selling himself as the conservative crusader, a deeply religious man from a blue-collar state who will go to Washington and stand fast against the cultural and economic forces that he says are encroaching on traditional families and manufacturing jobs.
"More people go to church on Sunday than go to all the professional sporting events combined in a year," he said. He dubbed his jobs plan "supply side economics for the working man."
"There are a lot of people in this country who want to use their hands and their minds together to make something," Santorum said Saturday in St. Clair Shores, where he appeared without almost no senior staff in tow and spoke from a podium that was nearly level with the crowd. "That's their vocation — that's what they were made to do, that's what they want to do, that's what they love doing. . And guess what, there's less and less chance to do that."
A man shouted in response: "No one even knows how to run a machine anymore!"
"That's right," Santorum replied.
Santorum's policies echo this philosophy. He's proposing cutting the corporate tax to 17 percent from 35 percent, and slashing corporate taxes for manufacturers to zero, a move he says will help bring back blue collar jobs. He barely mentions the labor unions that helped keep those jobs well-paying.
It's another contrast with Romney, who says Santorum is "picking winners and losers" in an economy where the vast majority of jobs are in other sectors. The former Massachusetts governor hosts many of his events at small business and local factories, where he'll often tour the facility with the company's owner, founder or CEO before speaking with a group of the company's workers — and a bank of local TV cameras.
His campaign consultants call them "messaging events."
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Sanatarium needs to STOP talking...Romney's poll's go up every time He comes out with more crazy talk! And, I, for one, WANT Sanatarium to be the GOP candidate! LOL...
Along with Obama, Romney and Santorum are ideal candidates as a Poster Child for Corporate American profiteers and/or the corrupt Washington Establishment, the status quo. What a race...a field of three three-legged entrees from the same stable with the only winners being the corporate owners and financial backers.
Naturally, the fourth entree, the ONLY thoroughbred, is kept out of the race for obvious reasons. LOL
One thing Romney and Santorum HAVE in common is that they both vow to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits for our seniors.
Remember THAT come election time!
marlen
When I go to the ballot box I think to myself one thing, who is going to give me a raise in government spending?
I have been on these forums for a while and I know that the liberals want to raise the retirement age and means test, after all, that is Obama's plan. Cuts in spending need to be made, even some at the DoD because there are way to many kickbacks. The same thing is happening with the government Union workers and FAILED solar energy companies... Point is, the status quo of the government screwing the American public will continue. Obama is, Romney would, and Santorum too. The Occupy crowd and tea party crowd will continue to fight over political crumbs while it is business as usual on the Hill. Vote out your Congressman!
"Santorum's policies echo this philosophy. He's proposing cutting the corporate tax to 17 percent from 35 percent, and slashing corporate taxes for manufacturers to zero, a move he says will help bring back blue collar jobs. He barely mentions the labor unions that helped keep those jobs well-paying." I see no statement from this guy on just what the middle class would be paying in taxes.....I have to assume from this that he would intend to cut nearly all benefits to anyone retired..on medicare..or even needing insurance to help pay for health care. He has already made the statement that if you can not afford the insurance then so be it..I would have to think that he means if you have no insurance then you can just die...and get out of his way...and his corporate ways...as with Romney.
If taxes are cut that much...where will any of the funds come from that are used to run this country ? Are politicans going to take huge pay cuts ? How about presidents ? Do they also get huge pay cuts ? Will their retirements be cut out as will the middle class...which is silently going away.
Both Romney and Santorum want to make America a theocracy... they don't respect the Constitution or the separation of church and state. They fundamentally fail to understand the concept of freedom and liberty. How can I have either if they are so hell-bent on imposing their narrow morality and dogma on me? They are the American Taliban.
Hmmm... the differences between Mittens and Frothy. The major difference is that Frothy wants a theocracy and Mittens wants a plutocracy.
Romney and santorum both are 100 times better than baracalypse. If lib policies are so good, why are aLL the lib states failing? Do any of you actually believe we can borrow 2 TRILLION a year for 4 more years? Do you really think raising taxes creates more money? The tax cuts from Bush INCREASED REVENUE .Look at that for yourselfThe economy is getting better because we are all getting ready for the end of this Baracalypse, brought to you directly by Mr Dodd, and Mr. Frank. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs a history lesson.
P>S you are all being lied to by this administration. Look at some of the laws he passed without congress. VERY damaging to all of us! LOOK FOR YOURSELF!!!! You wont, youll just collapse my comment as usual because "you cant handle the truth"! lol!
I agree.... however, don't mistake the fact that Romney doesn't talk about religion to suggest he doesn't also want a theocracy. He is a strongly devout and fundamentalist Mormon and he abides by that cult's dogma. This means he is sworn to follow the church leaders instructions (as president or not) and he holds all the sexist, racist and xenophobic attitudes of that church. He is a Mormon first (this is THE RULE in Mormonism - God first even before family - and certainly before country) and would follow his dogma before the Constitution (he's sworn to God to do this). His magic underpants would have priority to his oath of office.... He avoids talking about religion because he knows Evangelicals think he is a cult-member (ironic isn't it?) and not because he doesn't want to institute Mormonism across the country. Expect one form of theocracy or another if either of these guys becomes president. It is frightening if you don't want to live in a church-state...
Santorum lies blatantly and never apologizes for it, while Romney changes his mind on issues as often as he changes his socks.
Santorum wants to "throw up" when he hears the phrase 'separation of church and state.' He completely mis-represents Obama's goals for higher education in America.
Romney lives in his Richie Rich bubble, trying desperately to connect with middle class working people. He has done a 180 on virtually every issue. And they called Kerry a flip-flopper?
They're both terrible choices for the highest office in the land.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
I don't know how to tell you this but the President of the United States cannot pass laws. He/She can only enact laws passed by Congress. But don't let the facts get in your way...Fox news doesn't.
"When they show you who they are...believe them!"
Russ... All the states are experiencing budget issues due to the collapse of the financial industry and its corruption. To blame Obama for this is ridiculous and i think you know that. The deficits we are experiencing have been caused by going to war in Afghanistan, a war of choice in Iraq (see Bush and WMDs), unfunded medicare part D (see Bush), financial industry ignoring risks to make money (see Gramm-Leach-Blighly under GOP congress and Clinton) and last, but definitely not least, Bush's 2 tax cuts and Obama extending them did NOT create more revenue. Please site a REPUTABLE source that shows (illustrates it not a quote from McConnell or other plutocrat). In addition, the baby boomers retiring has put more demand on social security (which has been borrowed against by both political parties) and medicare/medicaid.
Pop Quiz: Who said "deficits don't matter"? HINT: Darth Ch_ney.
Obama signing the NDAA was a travesty of justice. Those in Congress who voted on this legislation have broken their pledge to protect and uphold the Constitution and therefore should be penalized by not getting re-elected.
Electing Santorum or Romney will destroy the middle class and therefore they should be spurned by ALL intelligent voters.
Ol_Dorc - They are called Executive Orders.
And they are legal and have been used by every president since 1936-7.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
Thanks not lib or con. I use the only source thats accurate. The gov website itself. go to federal revenue by year, then do the same for states. it confirms everything i said, without the partisan crap.
also, while you look at gov wesites. follow the deficit charts since 1900. look who had the purse strings when the spending was out of control.
The deficits run under bush was around 10 percent of income. 100 percent under obama. lest you not forget, I didnt, the world stopped when 9/11 happened, and again when 3 states went underwater. just because our country didnt collapse, doesnt mean it wasnt disastrous.
lastly, the world recovered from the great financial collapse except us and europe. Blame the captain my friend. We need a new one, now!
Regardless of legality and previous use, Ol_Dorc wants to believe they haven't occurred under Hussein's regime.
Russ... this article uses charts derived by the CBO and proves my point concerning the increase in the deficit since 2000.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html
I know nothing about the percentages of income you quote but would love to see the source of your info so I can read it myself.
Romney and Santorum are sewing the seeds of their own loss. Whichever candidate the Republican voters support at this point, they are both likely DOA in the general election
Romney is clearly just as much of a flip-flopping sycophant as Kerry is
Santorum is just a complete whack-job. Listen to his stance on what women who are victims of rape should do. This guy is a lunatic x 10^23
Neither candidate has any realistic means of fixing this country. They are bought and paid for by big lobbyists and are pushing an agenda of lowering taxes and leaving Americans on the chopping block for multinational companies' tireless greed.
I'm no fan of Obama, but the GOP has once again brought another group of stooges to the forefront to represent them. I don't see this changing until the GOP works hard to bring back their moderates and starts to get tough with the idiots in their midst that pander to either or both big multinational corporations and fundamentalist religious wackos. Until that happens, the only people I foresee the GOP endorsing will be the same kind of fools that are the only ones to survive the vetting process of the religious right and neo conservatives.
Pathetic
the voters they spoke to were as different as the messages they brought and as the campaigns they are running.
But they do have one thing in common: Each time they open their mouths, they say something really stupid.
Nope, not here in Reality World. The Bush tax cuts dropped revenues, resulting in record deficits and an extra 4.9 trillion dollars added to the National Debt, nearly doubling it. The Bush tax cuts are still in effect, in case you haven't noticed, and that lack of tax revenue is a major factor in the record deficits during the Obama administration.
But the Neocon "Laffer curve" theory insists that tax cuts increase tax revenue, and no amount of historical evidence, facts, or reality will convince them otherwise. If you really believe that, then ask your boss for a pay cut, it'll make the company boom and you should expect an increase in paycheck... Not.
BTW, the tax rates under Clinton actually managed to produce a surplus in his last year in office. If Bush and the Republicans not cut taxes, there would have been little in the way of annual deficits, and the National Debt might have even shrank a bit.
Impossible. The President cannot pass any laws without Congress, that's not the way it works.
Flat out wrong on two different issues. Wanna try for three?
Oh, wait, "Very damaging to all of us" - NOT! 3 strikes, you're out!
Joann - it's not so much Santorum's talking but who is running the poll. The polls of the Season appear to be PPP, Gallup, Rassmussen.
Keep going clowns, the country needs the entertainment they provide. So far they haven't produced anyone who shows leadership ability.
What about the Candidate that continually reduces the others to sniviling apologetic little boys caught with their hands in the cookie jar?
I too would love to see Santorum as the GOP nominee.
Check out Rick Santorum admitting that he does not believe in separation of church and state: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106911/Rick-Santorum-threw-reading-JFKs-speech-need-separation-church-state.html
Obama 2012!
And I don't understand why you keep quoting opinion pieces from British newspapers. Can't find enough to read here?
Probably because the American media sucks and often the best articles are from foreign sources. Get over your bias that all good things must come from this country... it's often just not true.
Where are the jobs? What was that mess in 2010? Where are the jobs?
Now we're just social engineering? Creating an American version of the Taliban?
Where are the jobs?
marlen - he's a lawyer. He knows what it means. Think about it, if the forefathers wanted a total separation of church and state, they wouldn't have
approved images of Moses and the Ten Commandments in the entablature of the US Supreme Court.
Made a Bible (symbol of truth) a part of the ceremnonial swearing in of federal offices.
Made the opening of every session of congress with a word of prayer
forbade religious tests for political offices (whether to bar participation of religious people or eliminate participation of non-religious people.)
WOW the "GOOP" choices are now between
a "FUND-A-MENTAL DRAMATIZER" and
a "ANTI-CULTURALIST / ANTI-ECONOMIST"
DUH! whats going to church have to do with "suppy side economics"?
AMERICA BE "SANE" VOTE "OBAMA" 2012 / "CLINTON" 2016
And when a reporter mingled with the crowd and approached him after the event, Santorum stopped to answer a question about whether he supports raising the minimum wage along with inflation, as Romney has said he does.
"I am not in support of that. That's inflationary and doesn't make any sense," Santorum said. "It's bad policy."
I can't believe that Santorum would actually announce to an audience of supporters, many of who are undoubtedly unemployed or low wage earners that he doesn't support raising the minimum wage to keep pace with inflation. You'd think he'd get booed for something like that. How could anyone support someone who thinks you ought to get POORER when times get tougher. How does he have ANY supporters at all??
The Elite benefitting from the status quo (Santorum, Romney, Obama, etc....the corrupt Washington Establishment) depend on the active participation and complicity of millions of Citizens. And, American Citizens live up to those expectations. Why? I really can't see any other reason except plain good old stupidity.
YUP, the rich KEEP getting RICHER...
And Ron Paul is in favor of TAKING AWAY MINIMUM WAGE altogether!
"Supply side economics for the working man," is counter-intuitive.
/thingsthatdon'tmakesense
The late great Steve Jobs, when asked about whether or not the cutting of corporate tax would cause jobs from Apple to come back, said that THOSE JOBS ARE NEVER COMING BACK! Until those corporations can pay people to live in dormatories to be awoken at any moment in the night/day to come work for a PITTANCE then those jobs will NEVER RETURN. Cutting the corporate tax won't do s#!+ to help our economy OR bring jobs back... why don't we just make them pay an import tax?! Bring back the good 'ole days of tarriffs and NOT letting the company pass that buck on to you...
I agree.
A must read that will make you want to spit:
'The Hidden History of Corporations in the United States of America'
Two losers, vying to win the chance to lose to Barack Obama.
'Crystalized differences?'...
The only differences between these two are their names and a few inches in height! You can add Obama and Gingrich into that same conclusion also. These boys are card-carrying members of the corrupt Washington Establishment, the status quo and their financial supporters. Bad joke on Americas Citizens.
Great ... one appeals to the Koch Bros. crowd the other to the trailer trash crowd ... and both lose to the majority ... the crowd of independent thinking Americans who understand that neither of these bozos has a clue.
Speaking of the billionaire Koch Brothers, check out the following short video on how they are actively working to destroy Social Security: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFymBUsoNWY
Can you say EVIL?
***NEWS FLASH***
"SNITT R-MONEY" HAS "friends" with MILLION$ of dollars to own and support the operation of a NASCAR
machine. Most AMERICANS I see are OWNING and OPERATING either OLDER or USED CARS!
"POPE SANITARIUM" has "friends" that put "HIS HOLEY-NESS'S" name on their race car, but not really sure if is for "HIM"...Didn't see any "HOLY CROSSES" on the car.
"AMERICAN BE SANE VOTE "OBAMA 2012 / CLINTON 2016"
I know exactly how Santorum feels when he said he wanted to throw up when he heard Kennedy's speech about separation of church and state. Kennedy made that speech because republicans were accusing him of being a ploy of the vatican. I guess they don't worry about that anymore. Santorum makes me want to throw up when he talks about no separation of church and state so I can empathize. I cannot believe this is the best the republicans can offer. They talk about Christie but based on what I have seen he would fit right in with these guys. One is a religious nut, one is guy that specializes in taking money and the last one even his own people don't like. I am an independent but if this where the republican party is I feel sad for them and the country. I forgot Ron Paul. I do not particularly agree with his positions but at least he is clear about them, he does not have a history of taking money and he is likeable. I don't think I would vote for him but he is without question the best in this field.
JFK Said he would govern based on the Constitution, not the dictates of the Pope. Santorum will scrap the Constitution, govern by the dictates of the Pope, except when the Pope isn't radical enough for him.
As a moderate Republican, I find it offensive that Santorum is using the church pulpit for votes. This country was founded on separation of church and state, meaning the government does not determine one's conscience-do some history, Santorum. This free agency is what makes America great. Either Santorum is a man of conviction and plans on introducing Christian form of Sharia law, or, as his voting record shows, he lacks conviction by playing team politics and using religious, inflammatory remarks for personal gain. Either would be a bad idea for a president.
It's good to hear from a moderate Republican. I was afraid you guys were extinct.
I agree with Santorum that 'freedom is at stake' in this election...and that is one of the best reasons not to support this guy who believes church and state should be one and the same.
Amen,,,, We are still waiting for the "tyranny" republicans warned was coming in the last election
Idiots who shout this crap should be locked up in a "Quite Room" --- They have "NO HONOR" at all!
As a direct result of the mad dash by republicans to embrace the fleabagging crowd, they get to choose among; the serial, flip-flopping rich guy, the pompous, arrogant, last angry man, the religious nut and the wing nut. Does it get any better then this? "Oh boy is this great!" (Flounder in "Animal House")
Which candidate is afraid of the people finding out what they really feel? Obviously Romney, who takes no questions, speaks to no reporters. He's afraid he'll screw up. He's a phony. I'm no fan of Santorum, either, who has played politics too much in the past-- but, at least he's not afraid of talking to the people.
Does anyone need a clearer example of conservative bias in the media?
The top 12 stories here on MSNBC are all about Republicans.
I'm thinking, if the main stream media had given Ron Paul as much coverage as the other three, we would be seeing another picture altogether. Regardless of weather Ron Paul is good or bad, we as a public have not been given the chance to discover who the real Ron Paul is - The media blackout has robbed us of this information. Surely as voting public we deserve to know the truth about our candidates, warts and all - being manipulated by the media to their way of thinking is not good for democracy, not good for a healthy political environment - Anyone else feel like they are being manipulated - lied to - robbed ....?!
The fact that we have Romney vs Santorum at this stage of proceedings leaves me with just one word - PATHETIC !
Blame the Media? They've pretty much covered all of his 35 years in Big Government... Look at his standings, the result of conservative voting, not that hot!
Areas that he put a lot of money into buying "media" coverage, he did fairly well
Blame his management of his campaign for not going into more states & spending more... Don't blame the media
The Media is always the 1st choice of idiots to cover up their own lack of abilities. Sadly, other idiots believe them
You really must be deaf and blind not to have seen what has been going on the past few months. Ron Paul's polling figures are never shown, in fact all we have ever seen are all and anyone's numbers but Pauls - Ron Paul has been deliberately and systematically excluded from prime-time coverage, and has been marginalized in the debates. I have watched MSNBC first pump up Gingrich as an alternative to Romney and then jump on the Santorum bandwagon, all the while making sure never to mention how well Paul is polling. We have been given the idea that Its Romney vs Gingrich, or Romney vs Santorum and the media have played this song well. I have watched NBC rattle the anti Iran chains during newscasts, deliberately followed by a Santorum or Gingrich campaign issue.
Yeah, for real, Ron Paul has been given as much coverage as any of the other three. Even Gingrich today gets at least twice as much coverage as Paul.
One has to wonder who the 'idiots' really are .... you must be one of them Jim.
Figure it out & listen to your own conservative pundents.... The states Paul's campaign spent a lot of money in, he got more votes
Yes, all this with no media coverage - just shows what you can do ..... btw, Santorum getting a free ride with the MSM must account for his successes then?, especially when he has spent LESS than Paul - go figure.
If you don't believe the media plays a huge role in defining public perception..... you really have no clue do you ?!
BTW, at this point in the race ..... which two candidates are walking away with the delegates ...... and the answer aint Gingrich or Santorum - Something the MSM will not cover. BTW, who has the highest polling numbers against Obama .... not Romney, not Santorum, not Gingrich - pray tell why do we never see that number on any of the main stream medias polling numbers. Why would a media outlet choose to show 3 out of 4 candidates polling numbers - and consistently not show Pauls ????!!! - I had to laugh, the only time msnbc ever showed Ron Pauls numbers against obama (which were better than the other 3), Lawrence O'Donnell had it flash up on its own, not with the other 3 GOP candidates and then he had to add 'Not that Paul will ever win nomination!' - If you can't see that we the public are been manipulated by the so called news journos - you must be blind or ignorant !
The brokered convention is going to be a shock and surprise for many ..... but not for RP supporters!
Romney has learned from the Sarah Palin Playbook: If you don't answer any questions you can't say anything that is incorrect!
George W Bush was a moron and an incompetent. Nonetheless Republicans voted for him. Santorum is not as stupid as Bush. He is proposing essentially a Theocracy were his religious beliefs will guide the country.
Evidently he is not concerned about the religious beliefs of others, or the First Amendment. The First Amendment was written specifically to prevent exactly what he is advocating.
None of these things will deter Republicans from voting for Santorum. He is stupid, very arrogant and very dishonest, like George W Bush, but Republicans voted for Bush and they will vote for Santorum if given the chance.
Having been a Rep. all of my life, If Romney becomes a canidate at the convention, I will vote independant. Romney must never get into office.
I have heard Rick Santorum referred to as a zealot, and I have heard that denied with the explanation that he is a Christian. The thing that makes the difference for me is that Rick Santorum sees science as heresy, as the enemy of Christianity.
I live among Christian folks who I dearly love who vehemently deny evolution and the big bang theory, but they plant roundup ready cotton and bermuda grass that has been genetically altered to withstand heat and drought and salty water, and genetically altered cattle which produce better, cleaner, more muscular carcasses, and they think nothing of it. And they see photographs of far off constellations with images of crosses, taken by the Hubble telescope, and marvel without question.
Rick Santorum takes Genesis as literally the word of God, and he concludes that what God has created, man is powerless alter. And so he sees global warming as a sham and a "phoney theology" or a heresy.
I am a Christian, and I take a more Augustinian view of Holy Scripture. I thank God every day for the blessings of science - not that it holds all the answers, just that it enables men and women to serve God more knowledgeably, better and more truly.
Therefore, I see Rick Santorum's view as a radical view. And even though he is a Christian, I do not want to see him running our country. As many problems and challenges as we face in this world, we cannot afford someone who may be short sighted or decidedly ignorant, or ill equipped by ideology to function wisely or well.
Differences...
One is a lying POS - the other believes the Spanish Inquisition was too liberal....
Let's see.. Mr. Let-them-eat-cake or Mr. Public-edgycayshun-is-evil. What a choice! OBAMA-BIDEN 2012!
Rick Saint Torum, the pious high priest from Pennsylvania. If you think that God is going to save us and that God is on our side, vote for him. I would say that you are dilusional. No one is going to save us unless we save ourselves. God do not save 50 million people killed by a paranoid crazyman who got control of Germany in WWII. I would suggest that you base your choice in Michigan on more rational points.
"They Pisseth Against the Wall"
Six times in the Old Testament that the Jewish writers referred to Gentile men as those who “pisseth against the wall.”
Big
The reason Hitler gained the power he did is because he lulled people into a false theology and then lead them down a terrible road. All because people had lost their spiritual way through his lies and confusion.
There will be NO SALVATION in November for the religious right,,,, they are unclean
"And we are all become as one unclean, and all our justices as the rag of a menstruous woman: and we have all fallen as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" -- Isaiah 64:6
OBAMA-BIDEN 2012 ---- TAKING AMERICA FORWARD