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TROY, MI - Republican presidential candidate, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum speaks at the Americans for Prosperity Presidential Forum during a campaign stop on February 25, 2012 in Troy, Michigan.
TROY, Mich. – If Mitt Romney is counting on winning Michigan’s primary because he’s from the state, Rick Santorum is betting he’ll win here by better connecting with the state’s voters.
The former Pennsylvania senator has so far managed to battle equally with Romney in the state where the former Massachusetts governor was raised. Romney won the primary here in 2008, and had been expected to easily win again this year before Santorum upset Romney in a trio of mid-February contests.
And campaigning in the state, Santorum’s strategy has become clear. He’s courting Michigan’s broad, middle class electorate, a group that’s been affected strongly by the economic downturn, by focusing on themes of reviving manufacturing, bringing down energy prices, and crafting policies to encourage families.
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“I care about the very poor,” Santorum said at a Friday night rally in Lincoln Park, a blue collar community downriver from the site of Ford’s famed River Rouge plant. “I’m a 100 percenter, not 99 versus 1.”
NBC's Ron Mott reports.
Said Len Marshick of Belleville, Mich.: “He holds the same values we do.”
Santorum is a candidate who cut his political teeth in Pennsylvania by being able to win over broad swaths of blue collar workers in that state’s most populous corners. He eked out victory in Iowa by courting those voters and the state’s social conservatives, and relied on a similar recipe to conjure upsets of Mitt Romney in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri.
“I think he’s more work, work, work – a family type of person,” said Frank Lughermo, an undecided voter who grew up in southwest Detroit before leaving the city for the suburbs after the 1960s riots. “He can relate to people in industry.”
Santorum is courting in Michigan the very voters with whom Romney has struggled to connect: the working class and social conservatives – the famous “Regan Democrats” who make up a large segment of the electorate here. Romney has fared better with wealthier voters, according to exit polls of preceding primaries, while the margins are closer among the less well-heeled.
Santorum’s effort to connect with the middle class was maybe most clear in a quip Santorum made Saturday morning before a group of conservative activists, which won him a standing ovation.
“President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college,” he said. “What a snob!”
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Santorum’s campaigned in the state with a “Made in America” slogan more reminiscent of a union imprint than a Republican presidential campaign. He assailed Romney for having opposed the 2009 bailouts of GM and Chrysler, while, within the same time frame, supporting the Wall Street bailout.
“If you’re going to bail out one, and help your friends on Wall Street … why pick one, and not the other?” he asked, conceding in the meanwhile his own opposition to both.
But Santorum still faces challenges in driving that message home, namely his less robust fundraising and organizational infrastructure compared to Romney.
That deficit was on display Friday night, when Santorum arrived – late – in snowy conditions to address a Knights of Columbus hall that was less than half full to hear Santorum deliver a “major” address about his first 100 days in office.
Santorum laid out a 10-point plan to specify his agenda, though the specific points were sometimes lost in an especially long-winded speech, a hallmark of Santorum’s campaign style.
“Nobody is a perfect candidate, but he’s probably the most overall consistent – probably has the least ups and downs,” said Dan Fuller, an engineer for a material supplier in the auto industry.
By contrast, Romney’s campaign is more scripted – almost to a fault, judging by the cavernous backdrop for his economic address at Ford Field, remarks at which included a minor gaffe about his wife, Ann, owning two Cadillacs (a departure from prepared remarks).
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Romney’s speeches are peppered with references to his upbringing in Michigan, a reminder to voters that his father, George, served here as governor.
Betty Ridan, of Bloomfield Hills, Mich., said at Saturday’s conference that she was a longtime Romney supporter precisely because of his roots in the state. But she also described Santorum’s speech as “inspiring,” and admitted the former Pennsylvania senator would have been her second choice.
What victory may mean for Santorum is a gut sense – a feeling by Michiganders that, for all of his warts, Santorum is more representative of their needs and issues than any of the other candidates.
“You see it too often where people vote because the media tells them that this is the guy that looks like the president,” said Sister Maria of the Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist. About a dozen of the sisters, wearing full habits, attended the Friday speech. “That doesn’t make sense to me.”
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Santorum will certainly connect with the right wing lunatic fringe.
connect !!!??? He is the team captain !!!
Give it up you right wing nut job. Come November, the only color Michigan will be is solid blue.
Go Blue and this is from a Buckeye fan (and former resident of OH).
Is he running for President or Imam? Hard for this independent to tell.I personally think he is a religious radical who still has 19th century beliefs.As for Mitt I lived in New England while he was gov of taxachuettes and he's just not a choice I would make. The republican party has lost it's way and is making it almost impossible for Independents to consider any of the candidates being offered to us.
Werent you libs saying the same thing in 2010? Get prepared to be disappointed because 8 yrs of Santorum and then 8 yrs of Walker are headed your way..
Will he connect better in Michigan than Romney?
Does not matter. America is tired of religious zealots.
Sam: Poor baby, looks like it's going to be down to you and the nuns...good luck with that one.
How can Santorum connect with the middle class when he is against public schools, against college educations and is for making this country into the Christian taliban where we have no religious freedom because his hypocritical actions are against what Christ teaches and are for the billionaire republicans that want to own our country and will tell everyone what to believe and what to do.
The GOP Party. Wow.
Dumbya Bush & Cheney. Then, McPain & Sarah. the Donald. Bachmann. Another Texas Evangelical Governor Perry. The new adulterer Cain. The old adulterer Newt. Now the Three Stooges: Mitt, Rick and Ron.
jesus h nipple, what a joke! it's no wonder they can't be taken seriously! THIS IS THEIR BEST TALENT! Gawd help them...
Just a heads up DMorgan: GOP stands for "Grand Old Party" (yeah it's weird), so "GOP Party" isn't redundant. Sorry I have to be such a pedant, I'm trying to work on it.
Someone is really having fun coming up with these headlines. "butt goo" wants to resonate in Romney's back yard
President Obama and Santorum have the same dream: that Santorum is the republican nominee.
Those who love the country, our history and values should never be afraid of Christianity. Santorum is a family man who loves his country and he has the freedom according to our constitution to tell you what he believes. I appreciate that freedom to tell you what i believe. I believe that if we don't change the presidency, we will become like Greece in a couple of years and be owned by China with our huge debt. What kind of America would you like to live in? Vote Republican this year!
Actually you would benefit by electing a Republican and specially a Christian. You would have the blessings of a godlly man who cares for his country and the people and would finally be a breath of fresh air to the world! Do fear socialism. I fear the socialist party, they were the ones who opressed the Jews in Germany and they were the ones who appressed the people in Rusia, China etc. fear Socialism.!! The Christians just want to love God. I am not talking about a theocracy, The U. S. Constitution does not permit it. We are a free nation, free to have faith. You are one lucky fellow to be living in a one nation under the true God, which is freedom!
It's fine for someone to be a Christian. What is not fine is allowing state's to teach religious dogma like creationism in schools, or enforce exclusively Christian morality that oppresses gays and women. Santorum has implied that only Christians should have public options, which specifically violates Aricle VI, Paragraph 3 of the constitution, which states "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Furthermore, Santorum has implied that the United States is an exclusively Christian nation, and speaks out against the evils of "secularism".
Before questioning Santorum's bigotry, think about what he has had to do to soil his family's name to the degree that he has already.
"Those who love the country, our history and values should never be afraid of Christianity."
I am NOT afraid of Christianity. I am afraid of religious fanatics like Santorum who wnat to jam their narrow version of Christianity down the throats of everyone else. As for your concern about debt, I suggest you check out Santorum's voting record in the House and Senate. Long story short -- he never found s spending program he didn't like.
The Republican party at this point is Ridiculous. http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/a-small-sampling-of-bills-house-dems-passed-gop-senate-blocked-last-session.html
This is a list of bills passed by the DEMOCRATIC House of Representatives between 2009 and 2011 that failed due to just 41 REPUBLICAN votes in the senate. Many of these bills improve our national security or reduce our trade deficit, yet the Republicans still opposed them.
I honestly don't know what sociopath would vote for the likes of Rick Santorum. I challenge Santorum supporters to give a case that isn't centered around "Obama sucks".
Of course they oppose them. They want Obama to be a one term President. What they don't realize is the American people are fed up with their obstruction. I sincerely hope this rethugli-cant battle goes all the way to their convention. They're devouring each other. What a sad bunch of clowns. The only one I have ANY respect for is Ron Paul.
It is not so much the sociopath vote FOR santorum, as it is voting AGAINST the delusional views that the r/tp/con think is critical to the well being of the country. Placing him under an ever more powerful microscope that being the "leader" entails, is showing not only how flawed he is, but the entire r/tp/con agenda of party and theocracy being more important than country.
There are quite a few people, including r/d/i voters who will go to the polls in November, who believe that shining the spotlight on santorum now, is opening a lot more eyes to the fact that the r/tp/con agenda is sheer lunacy. Voting for santorum in a primary is nothing more than shedding more light on his, and his party's delusions. Splintering the party to the point of irrelevance is exactly the reason he is receiving votes. He has zero chance of winning any office, when his delusions have to face the informed independent and mainstream voters.
Yes, the GOP agenda is revealed as an attempt to install a Christian fascist dictatorship in America. If the obvious stupidity of a big, intrusive social state government, with no federal oversight, isn't enough to convince you, what do you think will happen when it comes down to declaring which Christian sects make the cut?
I used to be a Christian. At least up North I found in methodists and lutherans a kindness if not a blindness to local suffering on some level. But when I moved to the Bible belt, all I found were mean hearted or delusional people. I was appalled at the Southern Baptists' meaness and hate filled sermons, and confounded by the delusion gripping the disenfranchised pentacostal groups who were often more uneducated, severely oppressed, and seeking salvation of their communities in the church because it was their only hope. I couldn't offer anything to or futher enlighten either group, so I had to leave it behind.
I was lucky and found Native American theology, if you will. Now, in my church, I'm always surrounded by loving, family and community minded relations. There is always love and real spiritual action to create a better world for all the relations that inhabit it, not by controlling others, but by acting from our hearts.
Step it up, Republicans. DB Akron? Roy Wilson? Spanky? Even BrianB? Cat got your tongue? I can take up anything thrown at the Democrats but you all can do nothing but attack Obama.
Easy, The economy in the last three years has gotten worse. The country has lost its credibility and our future with the deficit we have is bad, really bad! If we do not turn it around, we will be sorry of the debt we have. The welfare programs will eventually collapse and there will be a social mess in our nation that will surpass the mess in Greece. The answer must be in reviving our economy, Obama does not seem to know how to do it. The Republican congress needs to balance the budget and put the brakes on the spending as they have tried to do this last year!!!!
"The economy in the last three years has gotten worse."
Perhaps for YOU as an individual but the overall economy is much better.
Facts Republicans Hate:
Job losses per month in January 2008: 700,000
Job gains last month: 250,000
GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%
GDP growth last year 2.9%
Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000
Dow Jones Average today: 12,900+
22 straight months of job gains
Record domestic oil production
GMC – all time record profits
Near record corporate profits across the board
Santorum is a right wing lunatic.I wish the Gop would pick someone so we could get rid of the freak show and move on with the debates they aren't going to win anyway Look at the primary and caucus turn out
Its time for HERMAN to unsuspend !!!!!
Pee Wee Herman?
He has a real appeal to the,white,male,ultra religious,female hating,home schooling,far right wing teatards...but the other 99.999999999999 % think he is CRAZY !!!!...(the "base" loves him...all 9 of em')
Cowboy17 -
You are so right - too bad anyone would even consider him presidential material!
Santorum has the same religious beliefs as a Ultra Orthodox Rabbi both have ZERO chance of being elected President of the United States.
There's a Rabbi running for President?? Where have I been?
If jesus Christ himself would run for the presidency, the liberals, who hate Godly people exercising their freedom of worship, would put him on a cross! The liberal mindset, if allowed to have it their way, would outlaw Christianity and have all Christians be persecuted, because of their hate for those who confess their Christian faith. WHY DO YOU DISLIKE JESUS AND HIS FOLLOWERS SO MUCH?
His followers? You mean the pederast priesthood of the catholic church? How about the hateful, intolerant members of the Westboro Baptist Church? Or do you mean the suckers...I mean flock...of Harold Camping?
If JC showed up tomorrow he would weep bitter tears at what you and your ilk have done to him and his message. Shame on you.
@TellTheTruth; I do appreciate that you used the word "DISLIKE" as apposed to hate.
Religions had their usefulness in the development/evolution of some groups of our species. It conveyed security/continuance to the fragility of existence and appreciations of a consciousness for the things they appreciated in life. Some of us have broadened our perspective. We now see the difficulties religions present to the species going forward. Holding on and letting go is a difficult process!
"If jesus Christ himself would run for the presidency, the liberals, who hate Godly people exercising their freedom of worship, would put him on a cross! "
LOL!! No -- people like Rick Santorum and the hate mongers in the so called 'christian right" would call him a socialist and that would be the nicest ting he would say about him. Remember -- it was the religious fundamentalist of his day, the Santorum types, who hung him on the cross
To Tell the truth I love Jesus Christ the problem I have with most christians is that they dont practice what Jesus stood for neither do they read their bibles. Mr Santorum week made comment that the earth is here to serve us not the other way around but the bible says we are to be good steward of the earth and not rape or misuse it and it will serve us well in both Deuteronomy and Leviticus. It would seem that the environmentalist have more in common with how the earth should be treated with biblical principles than Mr Ultra Christian. To say people should consider those as snobs who advise our children to go to college when the vast majority even factories are requiring some college is down right stupid. If a person looks a him from a different perspective one would think his goal is to sabotage the mindset of the folk that are listening to him. If they follow a lot of his advice the will surely be in a bad place as with his birth control stance.Make no mistake here I am not talking about abortion of which I am against but too many babies and no education lead to the poorest quality of life and always has.
Santorum is for the Republican Party
Which wants to limit Women's Rights, Kill Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Kill Unions, take away Health Care Public Education from the Middle Class, POOR, OLD
Wants more tax cuts for the Very Rich,
Santorum is supported by Koch Brothers
Republicans are for the Very Rich
Santorum is not for the working class, he's not for Unions,
Santorum is for Lower wages, NO Health Care, No Pension Plan
Santorum is not for the Auto Workers in Michagan
Santorum is for the Auto Workers in the South, Low wages, No Health Care, No Pension, NO UNION thats what Santorum stands for
The Republican party are really the true democracy, the democratic party are, in my opinion, more socialists. They support a lot of the socila programs! I want to preserve the freedom of this country, freedom of worship, I want less government control. I want to Live the American dream, let the rich be rich and create jobs for more Americans. The democrats are creating a welfare nation, dependent on the system. What will you do when the money taken from the rich runs out? I get it, we will be owned by China! Have you realized the huge debt we have? Vote republican, vote for the economy, vote for the balance budget ammendment and vote to reduce the deficit! and yes vote for freedom of worship.
Santorum bets ? He has a much chance to win the nomination as the Chicago Cubs winning the world series in 2012. Rim shot !
he sure isn't gonna connect in western michigan if he keeps raggin' on the netherlands.
It is a sad day in America when a religious fanatic and far right lunatic like Santorum can be taken seriously as a presidential candidate.
That's very true.
I think the rest of the developed world is laughing very, very hard at the idea that their is an "opposition" party in the US.
Ap
Actually the rest of the world is shaking it's collective head and is scared any of the Repubs might get elected. They've heard the war-mongering coming out in the debates
I take him seriously. How do you like the Obama job? I prefer a Republican this time! Ron Paul, is my exception. I would be find with Newt, Rick or Mitt!
So you would like to see an unrepentant crook and philanderer, a hypocritical religious extremist, or a political opportunist become president? I think that says more about you than it does about anything else.
Fail.
Obama/Biden2012!!!!!
Any woman or man with daughters should think twice about voting for Santorum.
He is clearly NOT interested in protecting women's reproductive rights.
His views are dangerous and archaic!
Drinking the lib cool aid I see! Don't fear the GOP! fear socialism! He is not opposed to womens rights! The issue is not reproductive rights. It was the Obama rule to force religious institution to change their beliefs! That was the focus of the topic! Rick can believe what he wants to believe. He has the freedom to have faith. Is that a problem for you?
Truth -- the one drinking the cool aid is you -- the Fox Noise, Limbaugh the junkie cool aid. You spew their talking points word for word.
As long as you are not gay, female, black, hispanic, believe in separation of church and state, and don't care that a president sees diplomacy as a weakness, absolutely he is right there in your corner!
Rick Santorum: "I'm not buying into this 'climate science stuff'..."
You're right Rick, that pesky 'science'. Always getting in the way.
Romney is the same book as Obama with a different cover. Their policies mirror each other.
In public they appear to be against each other but in private they are working on the New World Order.
In the NWO we the people will lose all of our rights of freedom as Citizens and become Subjects (SLAVES) in the New World Order.
Vote for Romney or Obama if you want to be a slave in the New World Order.
Or we could vote for Santorum and become a third world country!
Jeffrey D Parks: It really must be against the law for you to make any sense when the facts hit you right in the face and you still want to be dumb on purpose, why don't you take one of those probe's for females that virginia govenor Bob Mcdonald has and use it on yourself and we will see how that is working for you.
...and a theocracy!
Jeffrey: open a window. Breathe. Gettin a little scary in that basement. Let me guess....holding on to a bible down there?
Oh go away, Jeffrey.
Wow Jeffrey! Not too paranoid.
We are almost a third world country! Have you checked out our debt lately? In a few years we will be like Greece but in a bigger scale with a bigger debt! Vote republican and reverse all this mess!
Obama is an Imposter.
Obama is as fake as his birth certificate.
Obama has no right to be POTUS.
Obama has dual citizenship. Indonesia and USA and was born in Kenya.
Impeach Obama now before he destroys the rest of America.
Thanks to the incompetent wannabe candidates of the GOP and its small, disorganized horde of right wing lunatics like you, Jeff, President Obama will walk to his inevitable reelection in November. Read 'em and weep, little man.
Obama is an Imposter.
Obama is the biggest loser to ever set foot on American soil.
The only people that will vote for Obama are traitors and people that want to be SLAVES in the New World Order.
Jeff, please, take your meds or we'll have to call the men in white coats.
Jeff lives in a pretty dimly lit fantasy world, doesn't he?
You should get off your meds and wake up to the truth for a change.
Sweet comeback, looney. He said 'take your meds', and then you told HIM to 'get off' HIS! Booyaah, you got him good.
Seriously, Jeff, where do you crazies come from. I can't stand all the nut jobs the post crap like we're becoming 'slaves' under Obama. This is offensive to those who truly have no freedom , and the memory of those who were truly enslaved. Perhaps you should move to Syria, then maybe you would better understand the liberty we enjoy in America.
If there is any modern 'slavery' in America, it is enslavement to the corporations Republicans love.
The Patriot Act, The National Defense Authorization Act, The FAA Reauthorization Act, The Government Consolidation Act, The Cosumer Financial Confiscation (Protection) Bureau and other Acts like them are all NAILS IN THE COFFIN of our rights of freedom and our Constitution, Bill of Rights and our Declaration of Independence.
Call or write your Representative and express your concern in regards to these Acts that are a threat to our Life, Liberty and our Pursuit of Happiness as well as our Constitution, Bill of Rights and our Declaration of Independence.
The patriot act-introduced by Bush-extended by Obama. The NDAA-bipartisan congressional bill that Obama protested so only signed for the duration of his term.
You are a wack job, the governments job is to protect everyone, not to protect your right to be a bigot.
This GOP circus reminds me of the Three Stooges..."Whose on First"?
Umm, "Whose on First" was Abbott and Costello. Still, Larry, Moe and Curley would make better leaders than any of the remaining rnwj candidates.
Jeffrey - There is a reason not too many conservatives stay and post on this site. Many simply don't have the time to deal with people who think like they do here.
LOL. A snob because Obama wants it to be possible for everyone to go to college? Santorum is so far out to lunch it can only be funny. The only reason to call someone a snob because they want the best education for everyone in the country so they can compete and so we can be educated to function in the world is someone who wants to be King and rule over everyone. People who aren't educated don't ask questions, they follow along grateful for every scrap they are thrown. What a joke this guy is. It is so hard to believe that anyone buys his crock! Time for Rick to crawl back into his cave.
Wow, Jeffrey. Whack-a-doo!
LOL!!
I thot the Donald was one of the only few Whack-a-doo birthers left... too funny!
DM
Did you see the Santorum interview with Beck? Santorum says that the reason the President is pushing collage is because collages brainwash the student.
We are living in the time of Revalations. The scales of time are being held in the hand of one of the Four Horseman. The one on the black horse with the red eyes. in his other hand is a rope that is tied into a noose.
On one side of the scales of time is the Age of Enlightenment where the truth shall live and the lies will die.
On the other side of the scales of time is the Age of Enslavement where the lies will live and the truth shall die.
We the people need to unite together as one to make it out of the Age of Enslavement and into the Age of Enlightenment on our way to the Promise Land.
It takes two to make one because it took two whole people to make each one of us.
1+1=1 One for all and all for one. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. God Bless America.
Land of the Free Home of the Brave, United We Stand Divided We Fall.
Jenasus Trinity Hawkins
Rick Santorum believes in you and if you believe in HIM than we the people will win again.
The right wing christian lunatic fringe has spoken! Is this a template for a hateful, intolerant political/religious ideology that is doomed to failure, or what?
DEMONCRATS are Evil just like their leader Obama.
You left wing lunatics are the ones that want to kill all the babies in America.
Don't Bogart the bong, Jeff!!!!
Dude, take a chill pill. You're going to give yourself a nosebleed!!! (Or better yet, stroke out)
Have a nice day......OK?
Actually, Gar, a couple bong hits are probably exactly what Jeff needs...
Jeff - not to nik-pik but, Revelations and Genesis are the spellings you meant. Even a heathen like myself knows how to spell the books of the Bible.
Jenasus is my new name. Jenasus is spelled J e n a s u s Jenasus.
Jeff,
A collection of 3-4 word political jingos strung together does not a political argument make. But I'm very happy to learn that Rick Santorum believes in me; I don't think I could have faced the day without knowing that.
ROTFLMAO Suzq!!! You know, the very LAST thing thing these Bible thumpers want, is for us folks to actually read the Bible. Well said!
OMG! An end-of-timer. How quaint.
rofl!
Oh, Sailcat, Uncle Gar, Suzq, all. Please don't dissuade Jeffrey from speaking his thoughts; people like him provide a valuable service for people on the left, the center, and even the center-right, by confirming the utter emptiness of GOP/TP talking points and the extremeness of their policies. If anyone wants a measure of just how far out on the fringe the GOP has gone from where they once stood, google conservative columnist George Will's recent, devastating criticisms of this season's contenders for the GOP nomination. For example - Will accurately observes that the contender with the best chance of winning the nomination has the last name of "Romney" and the first name of "not." And he's thereby not endorsing Santorum either, but I'll let the readers who google Will's columns find out that for themselves (I prefer to save some surprises).
And believe me, George Will is no closet liberal; he wants the GOP to win badly, absolutely wants to end Obama's presidency. But he is a thinking conservative, in the same way that William Buckley was, something we don't see much of anymore as GOP/TP politicians all must parrot the extreme right-wing positions or face a charge of "RINO!" Of course, I'm not denying that conservatives can think for themselves or have good ideas, just that those who do are hiding in the closet until this bizarre political phenomenon runs out of steam (or votes).
It's funny to read the writhing screams of the brain-dead Republican zombies who post their reaction to Will's columns on his comment blog - sort of reminds one of the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers when the former humans, whose bodies now host alien lifeforms, react to the sight of people who are still human (horror-flick afficionados will recall their reaction to the sight of David Sutherland who managed somehow to keep from being snatched to the very end of the movie).
You are being brain washed or you are brain dead from watching TV. Do yourself a favor an take your tv to your local firing range, turn it on to your favorite show than excercise your 2nd amendment right and blow the hell out of it.
I have never owned a tv. I don't watch tv. I don't want a tv.
Telivision is the biggest waste of time ever created by mankind.
You can turn your TV off today and turn it on a few years down the road and the same show will be on.
Well then educate me Jeffrey, I'm willing to listen, but just making assertions is not enough to convince people it's true - you have to explain WHY and HOW it can be so. For example, you believe in a secret plan to bring about the New World Order. (I've copied your post below so that other readers will know what we're talking about.)
Please explain what the freak is this NWO? It sounds very scary. WHY does the NWO want to make us slaves? How can they do that? Who's in charge of it? Obama? The Chinese? Satan? How can we know it isn't Santorum? Maggie Gallagher? Or, the pope? Can the NWO infiltrate the Tea Party just like they infiltrated the govt.? Can't they also infiltrate your bible group? How can you be sure that your own church minister isn't secretly giving information about you to them? Who can we trust? Glen Beck? Fox News? Dick Cheney?
Benji,
There are some things Mr Will and I can agree on and there are others I cannot. You are right he is no liberal.
One thing I can agree with though is as you pointed the republican favorite, is "Not Romney" Unfortunately for the zealots, is is also "Not Santorum"
Since Gingrich has shot his wad already, that leaves only one.
But unfortunately for the media he is the "one who's name never gets a mention" What's the media going to do? stop covering the campaign because of the edict that they can't mention the name of the only candidate that makes a lick of sense?
The one who's name isn't mentioned does have some admirable qualities, he's blunt, speaks his mind, you know where he stands, and has other strengths too. He can connect with people unlike the corporate suit who seems to be wired by the GOP power brokers. But what's the point of mentioning someone who's unelectable?
Of course, Santorum is unelectable too, but it's different with him because that fact hasn't sunk in widely enough yet. Besides, when he comes off all judgmental and holier than thou, and that's just good ratings for the networks. George Will said it though, that Saint Santorum isn't electable; we're looking for a president, not a pope. So did "The Donald" LOL
So, I don't think that they'll ever start ignoring him like your guy? He's too entertaining. Give the public circus.
Please, people... please. Let Jeffrey speak. In fact, give him a microphone.
The more his kind of crap is heard, the greater chance the Democratic Party has to win.
Seriously though, Egilman, it's obvious that Romney is wired when two states declare him the winner without counting all the votes, and then have to walk it back when people start complaining about rigged elections.
I wonder who's behind the curtain pulling the strings? Could it be Karl Rove? It's got to take a lot of dough to grease the palms of the vote riggers, and we know Rove is the Koch bros. money man, because Bush doesn't need a brain anymore. Well that's just pure speculation, but he does have the requisite lack of ethics. So who knows? And it probably takes a whole crew of ethically-challenged loyalists to pull all the right strings, and grease all the outstretched palms.
So why doesn't your guy complain? Make some noise? He's no fool, he must hear rumors of the funny business. These guys are not too subtle, stumbling all over the place with their unbelievable press releases about losing ballots, thinking other ballots were spam - hah, that was dumb! etc. Surprised they didn't claim the dog ate it.
World Wide Warning
02/29/2012 Add the day, the month and the year together and you get 18=1+8=9. Than add the day 29 together and you get 11. put them together and you get 9/11 on leap day of leap year 2012.
119 The first terrorist attack on America.
229 I believe will be the next terrorist attack on America.
Be prepared people. Better safe than sorry. If nothing happens we can all have a Doomsday Party!
Pssssst! Jeff! Your crazy is showing. Just thought you'd like to know!
Lets see if anything big happens on 02/29/2012.
If nothing does we will all have a Doomsday Party!
Bring plenty of tin foil for your friends.
Jeff, I think you are the one that needs tin foil. Wow are you a ding bat. Got any other theories???
There is a minature sun circling around the sun with a molten fire trailing behind it like a comet.
You should look at it. It is really cool. One of the coolest things I have ever seen in my life.
It is continually circling the sun right on the edge of the sun.
Time to lay off the LSD Jeff.
Don't take my word for it. Just look at the sun. You will see it too. You don't need a telescope just look at the sun with some good sun glasses on. Don't look to long at the sun. It will blind you.
Okay. Jeff is a troll. Earlier, I thought he really believed in his insane ravings but the fact is he is just making up craziness to elicit a response.
Ignore him.
Dude, there isn't enough tinfoil in the world to make a hat your size.
C'mon, people! Can't you see that Jeff is just having some fun with you all? Look directly at the sun with "some good sunglasses on"? Jeff knows it and presumably everyone else knows it as well. He's trying to talk people (in a non-serious manner) into blinding themselves. But then you never know. Somebody might actually do it! Whew (wipe brow).
What?
Well, check THIS out.
In the word BuyBull, there are 7 letters. Just like the 7 deadly sins. 7 times 7 is 49. Subtract the 29 days in February from that, you're left with (yes, you guessed it!) 20!!
SO THEN -- If you remove the 20 from the current year 2012, you're left with 12. Subtract 7 (from the deadly sins) from 12 and you're left with 5 -- which is the number of letters in the word bible!
Which means: bible TRULY equals BuyBull
Good thing for you, Jeff, that numerology is completely true, and you saw it HERE. Now you can WAKE UP.
Rick Insanitorium is insane,and his followers need to be commited.
Amen, brother.
Anyone who supports Obama, an imposter, acting as President is a traitor.
The gene pool backed up into the cesspool in your family, didn't it, Jeff?
More like you are I would suspect since you brought it up SICKCAT!
Typical Demoncrat. Always blaming some one else for their own short comings.
George Washington is in my gene pool. The first President of the United States of America.
Fail, Jeffy. You lose.
Wow, if that is true, he would be sickened at what his family has become.
What is sick is what some of the people in America have become. The people in power that want to maintain their power and control of the free world.
Jeffy, is this what the voices tell you or did you read this on a right wing extremist zombie site somewhere?
Jeff is the bottom of the barrel of the troll patrol. Those checks must be starting to bounce as the regulars aren't responding as much as they used to. Or maybe they realize they've lost and there is no hope for them. Nah, the checks are starting to bounce.
Words are my Sword.
I have not worked since 2005 and I don't get Social Security disablity.
I am a gambler now. All the money that I make is from gambling.
Listen to the voice in your head and you will get ahead.
well there's a shock. Not worked since 2005. I think your mom might like her computer back now.
Jeff is related to George Washington? Interesting...
I wonder when all the lowlifes in Jeff's Republican Party will start listening to George...
Obama is leading America to its darkest days of the Age of Enslavement by proliferaing Class Warfare and poverty.
Impeach Obama now before he destroys the rest of America.
The Demoncrats are regressive not progressive. Everything the Demoncrats say is just the opposite of the truth. The Demoncrats are liars, cheats and people that steal.
Jeffy, you really need to relax! Listen, grab a 40 oz. bottle of your favorite malt liquor and a bag of pork rinds and watch some barnyard porn for a while. You know, just to calm yourself down.
Damn.
Oh, Sailcat, don't dissuade Jeffrey from speaking his mind; people like him provide a valuable confirmation of the utter emptiness of GOP?TP talking points and the extremeness of their policies for people on the left, the center, and even the center-right. If anyone wants proof of just how far out on the fringe the GOP has gotten, google conservative columnist George Will's recent, devastating criticisms of this season's contenders for the GOP nomination. For example - Will accurately observes that the GOP contender with the best chance of winning the nomination has the last name "Romney" and the first name "not." And that's not an endorsement of Santorum either, but I'll let the readers who google Will's columns find out that for themselves (I prefer to save some surprises).
And believe me, George Will is no closet liberal; he wants the GOP to win badly, absolutely wants to end Obama's presidency. But he is a thinking conservative, in the same way that William Buckley was, something we don't see much of anymore as GOP/TP politicians all must parrot the extreme right-wing positions or face a charge of "RINO!" Of course, I'm not denying that conservatives can think for themselves or have good ideas, just that those who do are hiding in the closet until this bizarre political phenomenon runs out of steam (or votes).
It's funny to read the writhing screams of the brain-dead Republican zombies who post their reaction to Will's columns on his comment blog - sort of reminds one of the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers when the former humans, whose bodies now host alien lifeforms, react to the sight of people who are still human (horror-flick afficionados will recall their reaction to the sight of David Sutherland who managed somehow to keep from being snatched to the very end of the movie).
Prepare For "The Freedom War" that is brewing in America.
World Warriors Freedom Fighters and others like them
Unite to protect our rights of Freedom.
Join "The Freedom March" on Washington DC 2012 to end the Crime, Corruption and Conspiracies in the District of Crime, Corruption and Conspiracies.
The World Warriors and Freedom Fighters that I am refering to are the Spirits of the men and women that have already sacrificed their life for freedom. The others like them are the Father, Son and Holy Ghost that are in most of us.
GOD Bless America. Land of the Free Home of the Brave, United We Stand Divided We Fall.
Besides you and your inflatable sex doll, "Bambi", who else is going to be in the so-called "Freedom March"?
Didn't you hear him? The spirits, man! And the holy trinity in us all! And Elvis, I think, too; plus the ancient aliens.
Be there!
Right wing terrorist groups at their finest...
The whole world is going to marching for freedom.
Join "The Freedom March" and set yourself free for Peace on Earth and good will towards mankind.
If RoSeS are ReD and ViOLeTeS are BLuE than I will give my LOVE to YOU.
Jenasus Trinity Hawkins
Deep breaths, Jeffy, deep breaths...
Jeffrey, PLEASE go sign up for SSD like you should have done years ago, but quit out of shear laziness. I KNOW you can do it. Other than that, there isn't anything else that can be done to help you.
Jeff....It's hard to know if you are trolling, or if you are actually having a psychotic episode.
I'm not going to be mean to you, because I don't think you realise how bizarre you sound, and most likely it's not your fault.
Just a suggestion, but maybe you really should back away from the computer and have a moment to reflect on the impression you're making here on the Vine.
OMG! I think he means the zombies are coming. Dude, are you on some sort of meds that you need to refill? Don't know why I bother replying to insane people.
Jeff you do know that Washington smoked weed and was not a devout christian?
Oh, he is trolling alright, but for Ron Paul, the one candidate that would legalize pot. I think Jeff is also stoned when he writes.
Here is Jeff's own profile on Newsvine:
"Johhny Pot Seed is my idol. We have been getting high for fourty years. We
will get high until we die. There are not any laws against smoking marijuana.
Only laws against pocession manufacturing and distribution. Some of those are
changing for medecinal purposes which is good but marijauna should be legal in
the whole world."
It needs to be clearly understood that neither Romney nor Santorum can win a general election against Barack Obama in November. There isn't a poll out that that says they can and the economy is slowly improving. That is the fault of the GOP.... who couldn't get a candidate what would appeal to independent voters to run and then made a hard right turn. You can't win elections from the left or right and the GOP has gone so far right with their candidates they have no change in November.
I have not been thrilled with Obama, but anytime I hear he is "distroying America" or "must be impeached" or "has made the economy worse" (he hasn't look at the numbers) I hear EXACTLY what the person wants to say, but can't "Please do anything to get that African American man who should have never become President from being re-elected". I know.... it's hard to say what you really feel... but the lies being told about Obama get so outlandish at times there is no other way to explain them but racism.
No kidding, I had been looking for a republican to back six months ago, now I know that if he is making them mad, he is doing it right.
Good post Richard!
Richard, the thing is, President Obama isn't doing what he does to be 'popular,' which reflects on why some Democrats don't like some of the proposals he tries to get across for the benefit of ALL Americans. The GOP's orders are set in stone, and their voter base will follow them to hell in spite of themselves. These Republican candidates can't even say anything 'good' about President Bush I or II, always going back in time to Reagan (who had major missteps of his own). They are always complaining about President Obama and keep changing the bullseye on his back; 1st it was his birth (which is STILL being brought up), then his education, then the economy, then it was jobs, then it was Equal Rights, then it was Women's Rights, now it's the gas. He showed his certificate, was asked by Harvard several times to come back to be a professor and was in the Harvard Law Review (which would be kinda difficult to do if he didn't have good grades), The Economy IS coming back albeit slowly (which is kinda hard to do in 3 years after 8 years going down the toilet and a Congress working against him), 23 straight months of job growth (after President Bush's 700,000 job loses a month in his last term in office), LGBT rights (which is dictated by the 14th Amendment), Women's Rights (which many States have been in the process of taking away at a rapid pace in the last 3 years), Gas prices rising (because of Iran's shortening oil production in part). What many people don't know is that America has been producing more oil in the last 2 years than ever in the history of oil production, but are selling the oil to other countries because of one reason; profit. America is also USING less oil than ever. The Keystone Pipeline will NOT be producing oil for America; it is all for sale to other countries. The promise of thousands of jobs is just that, a promise. Now the GOP are using the 'Church' to hide behind, since they have nothing else. The only problem with that; the GOP AND the Church have lost the original meaning of Jesus's messages, and have in turn become BUSINESSES.
You can run but you can not hide. The truth will always shine through the lies and darkness.
Wake up to the truth for a change that you can believe in.
I know it is easier for you to believe the lies than face the truth.
The truth shall set you free.
Obama, Shariah Law and the lies will keep you on a ball and chain.
I also am not thrilled with Obama, but he is still a better choice than anyone the GOP could offer. Obama at least doesn't try to force his values on us, or tell us how to live our private lives. The GOP has shifted so far to the conservative side that women should be frightened, along with anyone who is black, latino, gay, lesbian, or just wants the government to stay out of their lives. While Obama is trying to end a couple of pointless wars, the GOP candidates are talking about starting new wars. Who benefits? The defense contractors. Who loses? The families of the American servicemen and servicewomen who lose their lives. Oh, wait! Under Santorum, women wouldn't be able to serve in the military, because they are a distraction and not worthy of our respect.
It hard to distiguish the Luantics from reaal repulbcan because there areso many of them,
What is really troubling is "tak eone for theteam" idea expressed so eloqunely by Santorum. Where was he onthe deficit? Did heurge them to take one for theteam onit?
WhenSantorum voted 5 times to raise the debt cieling no one compalined-but now with Obama they complain all thetime.Where's th eidea of doing something for the country?
Thisis suppoed the be the United States of America not the Untied Stetes ofamerica.
Pennsylvania dumped Santorum as a Senator and we don't want him in the White House. Think about it, when it comes time for Pa. to vote in the primary, what will he try to say to a state that didn't want him. I would suggest you consider voting for somone else. Besides that he is just plain goofy.
If you don't believe Santorum is a liar, check out www.factcheck.org about his recent statements.
(Jeff are you listening?)
It is so embarassing to watch Romney struggle in his own state after outstpending Santorum 62 to 1.
When was the last time someone asked him why he is spending $100 mil to get a job that only pays $500,000 a yr. ?
If Willard was ever to gain office, he'd sell off the nations natural resources to Corporations faster than Hardings Cabinet on Meth .
EVERY GOP candidate is dangerous for so many reasons including soundness of mind .
Competence, liability, honesty and empathy are the traits I want from a president. Does he connect with me or not is irrelevant. Can he make the country better? Not a diverse one like ours.
I have dear friends whom I totally connect and yet, I won't EVER do business with them...
Santorum is great for the extreme far right faction of the country. For the rest, he is a fraud.
Romney has no vision for the US. At least he hasn't expressed one that I'm aware of. Romney's vision is of himself as POTUS, He wants to be POTUS because he wants to be POTUS.
Uh Billy, do you think about what you write? Hint: 'empathy' means being able to connect with others, and Romney can't do it. More importantly is the reason he can't - it's because he doesn't have a clue about what it means to be working-class, wage-earner for your family and fired from your job by faceless executive in an expensive suit who only sees the money he's going to make by dissolving the company you work for. Romney empathizes with banks, corporations and wealthy fat cats like himself. Expecting him to understand what it's like to lose one's job, or one's home, or one's health insurtance is like asking a cat to empathize with the mouse he's eying for a snack.