There is a good way out, for ALL of us.

Ron Paul 2012

Stop the madness!

One point about "earmarks." Supposedly they are forbidden and no one is doing them any more. That is a bunch of garbage intended for the great unwashed. All they did was change the name to "grants." The number of "grants" requested by the Senators from Alabama is even higher that the earmarks that they had previously brought home.

Santorum recognizes that all have equal rights under the Constitution...except non-Christians, women, gays, and the poor. So as long as you are a Christian, straight, rich male, you are all set.

All of the Republican candidates have the same problem, they all want more tax cuts for the rich, and more pay cuts for the rest of us. That's what the Republican attack on employee unions is ALL about: First they strip American Workers of whoever or whatever is protecting us from lower wages, then once they have us at an even greater disadvantage, they lower our wages and there's nothing we can do about it because, as Grover Nordquist pointed out, Republicans already have the legislation written up, all they need is a bozo to sign it. Before you know it, Republicans will have the American Workers down to $5 an hour, again.

Obama / Biden 2012

Seriously, if I see one more of these ads, I'm going to vomit into a Ziploc and mail it to the candidates. You literally can't go for more then 15-20 minutes without seeing or hearing one.

Look at that crowd behind Mr. Blue Jeans. All white. Funny, that's every picture where a Rethuglican candidate is holding forum. Give it up. You have no interest in representing all Americans.

We KNOW so-called "conservatives" can't be trusted. In my view, the only thing "conservative" about Republicans is they only think of themselves at the expense of everyone else.

Look at all the bad things that happened to us LAST time so-called Republican "conservatives" took the White House. Everything from terrorist attacks in the heart of New York, to being lied into war.

Obama / Biden 2012

If you are truthful in what your concerns are then the best candidate for you would be Ron Paul. Obama has continued the wars that GWB started, or does he get a pass? He said we'd be out and we are not. He said Drone strikes were Unconstitutional and then expanded them. I can go on, if you are concerned about trusting your candidate..

Obama does not want to tax you less, just tax the rich more and tarnish the hope that you ever earn enough to leave the middle class since you would just get more money taken out of your paycheck and sent off to the leaders of repressive regimes around the world. Or spent on inefficient, failing programs in a bloated government bureaucracy.

This election is not about Democrat or Republican because they are mostly the same. Pick your issues and measure the candidates based on that, if you do, you will see that Ron Paul is the only choice. Otherwise you get 4 more years of the same pandering to special interests while average Americans grind out their living, regardless of if its DEM/GOP president.

Cast your vote for the Constitution and for America. Cast it for integrity and consistency.

Vote Ron Paul 2012 and Restore America Now

AmericanGirl,

You've been living under a rock if you think George Bush was a consersative. Bush was a Moderate and nothing more.

TO: drakkar2 who wrote:

"AmericanGirl,

You've been living under a rock if you think George Bush was a consersative. Bush was a Moderate and nothing more."

He certainly was NOT a Democrat, and he sold himself and labeled himself as a "compasionate conservate", among other horrible lies (he also labeled himself as "The Decider" then after he wrecked everything and lied to everybody, he re-labeled himself "not responsible").

Newsvine Rules will NOT allow me to say what "I think" he was, but suffice it to say that I agree with the majority of the American People who profess that GWB is/was the most hated president in the history of the United States.

Obama / Biden 2012

@ American Girl

Obama can not be trusted. Need proof here:

Look at his Czars...anti-business..anti- american.

As many correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussien Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University ..

They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming.

Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government.

Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

Universal health care . The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions).

Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt.

What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government . Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors.

Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Barack Hussien Obama's plan all along.

His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

Legalize 12 million illegal Mexican immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America . But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security ..

Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go?

It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.

It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).

All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America ..

The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful.

The ends justify the means. Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama).

Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition. With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussien Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system. Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by Columbia University college classmate Barack Hussien Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan

Blah Blah Blah

Obama / Biden 2012 - Thats all that needs to be said, if we want to protect the majority of Americans.

Sounds like Mikefrm Va has been listening to Romney and Santorum's attack ads. I guess he agrees with his Governor too?

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

Mike, nearly everything you said can be contradicted by actual facts.

And for crying out loud, using the President's unfortunate middle name against him like he chose it himself? That's childish.

Last Debate

Landslide Mitter showed a killer instinct we have not seen before. He eviscerated Ricky Sanctiminium by luring him into the sausage factory where politics (and sausage) are made.

Ricky's TeaPeeps were treated to the reality of politics and I betcha they were horrified.

Billy, the same things were said about Reagan in 1980 & 1984.

Ron Paul is only Unelectable because the establishment says so. There actually is a lot support for his ideas. The establishment is doing everything possible to stifle support for him. If a person wants to learn about him they have to do the research themselves. listening to the establishment will not give an accurate picture of what he is all about.

Billy,

You have to get your head out from behind the Democratic Iron Current of hand outs and entitlements. This countries foundation was built on social and religious beliefs. Can you not see that as we as a country chip away at the founding Fathers foundation the country is degrading. We are no longer a thriving country with unity and strength. Eventually, the foundation will fail, unless we repair that foundation to its original condition. The only way to do that is to have a leader with those strict social and religious convictions. If you enjoy the freedoms you have now, you need to change your thought process. Our path we are on now will soon bring the America building down.

Sweet Daddy V

This country was built on religious and social beliefs? First of all YOU don't specify which RELIGOUS beliefs so as long as it's some type of religion, you are ok with it? Or does it have to be Christian? Second, when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3). Why are you people so adamant about this nation being Christian and Christian only?

Billy-3522093

the only one (unelectable) but at least sincere in sharing his real beliefs and not just "how to get voters to vote for me" was Ron Paul.

Even Ron Paul is a fake. Libertarians seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives. Ron Paul will allow you emergency contraception only after "honest rape."

TO: DB Akron who wrote:

Billy, the same things were said about Reagan in 1980 & 1984.

Ronald Reagan was a democrat, up until around 1964 when all the whites fled the Democrat party in protest of the passing of Civil Rights, because giving blacks and other minorities "equal rights" was considered being too "liberal".

Obama / Biden 2012

TO: ted patrick who wrote:

"Ron Paul is only Unelectable because the establishment says so. There actually is a lot support for his ideas. The establishment is doing everything possible to stifle support for him. If a person wants to learn about him they have to do the research themselves. listening to the establishment will not give an accurate picture of what he is all about."

Ted, you are EXACTLY right! And the establishment is shoving Romney right down the throats of Republicans, whether they like him or not.

I'm a left leaning independent, and I have listened to Ron Paul and he makes a whole lot of good sense. Maybe I just stumbled over the answer right there: Ron Paul makes sense, but all Republicans and Grover Nordquist want is some one who will sign whatever Grover Nordquist TELLS him to sign.

In a way, Ron Paul is over-qualified to run on the Republican ticket, simply because Ron Paul has a brain, which Republicans find to be undesireable and unnecessary.

Obama / Biden 2012

TO: bayllie who wrote:

"Sweet Daddy V

This country was built on religious and social beliefs? First of all YOU don't specify which RELIGOUS beliefs so as long as it's some type of religion, you are ok with it? Or does it have to be Christian? Second, when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3). Why are you people so adamant about this nation being Christian and Christian only?"

Excellent, excellent point! If this country is going to move toward being a "one religion only" country, I would vote for the Jews, after all they are God's chosen people.

Obama / Biden 2012

American Girl-724855

I find it amazing how the right is screaming about the religious rights...too bad they don't apply their strong beliefs to all religions.

The Muslims could not even build a mosque in NYC because it offended some people. Yet, they are screaming bloody murder because this president wants to ensure that a woman can have access to birth control. BIRTH CONTROL!!! which almost 100% of women have used in this country.

I guess the Republicans should not practice oral sex EVER because it's up there with birth control. According to the Catholic Church you should only have sex to have babies - so any act that does not reult in that is as immoral as birth control.

To Bayllie,

The Founding Fathers were steep in biblical Christian thinking. They drew from the bible many ideas and principles to mold our nations government. They used the bible as an objective standard of truth upon which to base American society. Biblical absolutes formed into law allows freedom without chaos. As all who live in the US can see that as our country moves further from these absolutes, the country and the world are experiencing a destructive free fall. The principles of Sovereign Authority of GOD, and not state or man are found in the Mayflower Compact, Declaration, Constitution, currency, oaths, and the Pledge of Allegiance. The first state constitution was the fundamental orders of Connecticut in 1639. The framers based every aspect of the constitution on the Christian Bible. This was the model for all the other state Constitutions and the US Constitution.

Fifty of the fifty five founders were Christians. Every single president has taken the oath of office on the Bible. All fifty states call for GOD for support in their Constitutions. The Supreme Court in 1892 stated that the US is a country of religious people and this is a Christian Nation. Even today, the Supreme Court opens with a declaration that " GOD save the United States of America. Are we a Christian country? Should we remain a Christian country? Do we love all? There is no doubt about it. But it must be supported by the Foundation of God. Do you think we should go back to the basic principles that have been proven, or continue on our current path?

The GOP candidates are just plain scary! Seems the whole GOP clan have lost their minds.... from state to state. They never fail to boggle the mind with one thing after the other... it gets worse every time they open their mouths.

SweetDaddy V - "God" is not a Christian deity. The God worshipped by Catholics is the exact same God worshipped by Jews and Muslims. I don't mean "every religion has its God." I mean it's the same guy! Jews and Christians share the same bible. The Islamic faith comes down from Ishmael, son of Abraham (yes, that Abraham). A reference to God does not immediately mean a reference to Christianity.

Also, if the Founding Fathers wanted a "Christian Nation," they probably wouldn't have made that pesky "no law respecting an establishment of religion" thing #1 on their ammendment list.

That garbage has already been debunked. Try again.

hey RINO, bet ya your eyes are brown cause that is just how full of it you are.

Not a Romney fan, but Rhino is right about the fact that after several infusions of federal cash, GM did in fact eventually have to go through an organized bankruptcy. Meaning the cash infusions were pretty much wasted.

And we need the stock to almost double what it is today, and get up to over 65$ per share, for the US govt to sell it's shares and break even.

Personally, I think it was cheaper to bail them out that to pay all those people 2 years worth of unemployment. It was probably the cheapest jobs program we could could have come up with.

So, while I am in fact a vociferous opponent of our current leader, and while I concede Rhino's points, and while some of the ways the bankruptcy was managed were not done the way I thought they should have been.....

On this issue it seems like it was the practical thing to do.

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

Rhino and Common Sense both seem to forget that none of the private sector institutions that you would expect in a normal economy to provide the workout cash was either willing or able to do it. The government bailout was the only real option to save the US auto industry. The private sector guys like Bain Capital would have sold off any assets GM had, including car brands. They would have sold the industry to the Japanese and Koreans. I believe the result would have lead to the US factories beening converted to assembly plants for parts made in Korea, Japan and Mexico. The labor for the parts would have been cheaper than US parts makers could manufacture for and all those hundreds of thousands of direct and indirect jobs would have been lost and small communities around the country devistated. The assemblers wages would be depressed in the right to work states where Toyota, Honda and Hyundai have assembly plants. The multinational auto makers would be profitably, the private equity firms would have made money, but unemployment would be higher, foreclosures would be higher and more middle/working class families would have their lives and communities ruined. I'm glad we had a President smart enough to recognize these things and with enough courage to see his plan through for the good of the ordinary people, not the monied elites.

wmoore, I'm not forgetting anything. In fact, one thing you didn't mention is that we ave an agreement with Japan regarding the automobile industry. In exchange for the US not imposing heavy tariffs on Japanese autos, they agreed to have a certain percentage of thier production here in the US, with US workers. Not sure about Korea, but I think we have a similar arrangment with them.

A managed bankruptcy is just that, managed.

I am agreeing with rhino that it should have happened sooner, and we could have saved the taxpayers billions.

I am also agreeing (with you, maybe?) that saving the auto industry was the cheapest, most cost effective and comprehensive jobs program that the government could have come up with. Ford only survived without federal intervention because they had just secured a multi-billion dollar line of credit months before the crash. Still, one has to admire thier foresight.

Common Sense I'm glad we can agree that the industry needed saving and it was saved.

I might agree except Romney,s plan called for private capital. The government tried that, even calling Bain (Romney was gone by then) and they wanted no part of it. There was NO private capital to be had. Hence the government infusion.

Rhine

Please explain why Mitter's Bain Capital declined to get involved in the Administrations early efforts to achieve a private sector solution.

Rhino, not exactly. The court enforced what Obama Wrote. Normally, the court writes the outcome from scratch. If it had, the Unions would not have received the pension amount they did.

Typical Bankruptcy distribution is Creditors first, Stockholders second, benefits last IF they get anything. The GM settlement was Union Pension first, Creditor second and stockholders last.

The Reason Unions were so upset with Romney is they understand what "straight to bankruptcy court" meant.

BTW the Republican plan was 1/3 Union, 1/3 Creditor, 1/3 Investor. it was nixed because the Unions were in the process of dumping $400 million into the Obama Campaign, in hopes they could get more with him involved.

Romney is absolutely lying about his argument to let General Motors go through a "managed bankruptcy" and he knows it. What he also knows, unfortunately, is that the voting public has the attention span of a 3-year old at a carnival. They simply won't sit still long enough to hear why Romney's lying. So to the extent Rhino is agreeing with Romney's lies, he's either wrong, disingenuous, or misled.

Why would I make such a bold statement that Romney is lying and he knows it? Because an intimate knowledge of the corporate bankruptcy laws and statistics prove it. Taking the second point first, look at the statistics regarding bankruptcies during the 2008 - 2010 time frame. There is a statistically much higher percentage of Chapter 7 bankruptcies than Chapter 11 bankruptcies (this includes those matters initially filed as Chapter 11 filings that were later converted to Chapter 7 filings). For those of you that don't know, a Chapter 7 bankruptcy is a "liquidation". In plain English, shut the doors, sell the assets, receive little or nothing for the "going concern" value of the business, and pay off the interested parties per very specific bankruptcy laws and instructions. On the other hand, a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is a "reorganization". Such a filing stops all claims against the corporate estate, allows for an infusion of cash into the business, allows management (usually) to reorganize the business (paying some groups of claimants, accepting or rejecting contracts and other obligations, etc.) and hopefully emerge from bankruptcy a stronger company.

What is critical to a Chapter 11 reorganization is DIP financing, which stands for "Debtor In Possession". This is an infusion of capital that banks and certain funds were willing to make because they are a priority creditor. Now back to the statistics: why were there a disproportionate amount of Chapter 7 bankruptcies? Because there simply wasn't any DIP financing. And this is for companies, great operating companies, that were over-leveraged, etc. and because of the downturn didn't have cashflow to service their debt. And I'm talking about companies that wanted to borrow millions and maybe tens of millions. Not $85 BILLION!! There wasn't any single lender or consortium of lenders that could handle that level of DIP financing. Remember, we were in the middle of a banking crisis as well. So for anyone to say that a "managed bankruptcy" (no such animal, by the way) was the answer is either an idiot, trying to score political points or is just being disingenuous. And Romney of all people, having presided over Bain Capital, knows that there wasn't any DIP financing available to GM. It was either get the financing from the US Government and its taxpayers (you and me) or liquidate it.

You can argue regarding was it fair how much the unions got versus others. Fair enough. You can have your opinion. That's your right. But you can't have your own facts or make up facts or situations that simply didn't exist. That's just wrong.

TO: Rhino40 who wrote:

"Romney's plan is what eventually saved the auto industry. If Washington had listened to him sooner it would have saved the tax payer about 15billion. Romney recommended that they go through bankruptcy..."

Wrong. First of all Romney's "plan" was never enacted (thank God), but if Romney's "plan" had been enacted NONE of the employees would have their pension/retirement plans in place today, and of course Romney would have forced the auto industry to dissolve the unions and re-hire employees at a much lower wage, and without quality health care. THAT is what Romney wanted -- Romney wanted to "dissolve" all of the pension plans and health insurance, and lower the wages of American Auto Workers.

President Obama's plan truly saved the auto industry, AND the employee pensions and retirment plans, and preserved their quality health care benefits.

Big difference there fruit loop, I mean Rhino.

Obama / Biden 2012

TO: That's your right: What a brilliant post! And every word true.

The government would have been the bank not the stockholder and the process would have been cleaner if they went through the bankruptcy. Romney never said let the industry fail.

Known
We all know that the government could not have been the bank. Nobody wanted to take it, even with government backed loans. Don't you remember everything that was going on at the time? The entire financial system was on the verge of collapsing. Had that not been going on then Romney's plan most likely would have worked. And most likely that would have been the route taken.

Again, Ya'all don't mention that when a pension sponsor goes belly up PBGC, US Govt. Agency, is on the hook. If the fund is overwhelmed (as was Fanny & Freddie) guess who steps in to pay the pensions. Yup, you and me again.

The Administration had a significant interest in protecting pensions so they would ultimately get paid from cars being sold rather than from the general fund.

Romney is fully aware of how bankruptcies work, he has used BK numerous times to shed corporate obligations including pensions.

Themen Merman who died and left you spokesmen for us all with your hate remark? Most of us do not like Obama so he should go also. Romney will make a great president. Sorry Themen Merman you just got fired.

Russell, vote for Ron Paul!

That way if Obama loses, we can at least bring the troops home right away.

Liberals for Ron Paul 2012

Russell, we don't want them here next week. We got enough looney tunes between the far left and the far right. But I would like to see an open speaking engagement in Seattle, it would be funny.

Alil -

I thought about that, but since Paul doesn't have a chance it would be a wasted vote. I want to interfere with Romney, and the only way to do that is to vote for someone that has a chance. Having said that, I will have to hold my nose when I fill in the little black circle next to Santorum's name.

SallyAnn - I hear you. The attack ads are enough to ruin anyone's day. But we all have to take our turn. The good news is after March 3rd you will be done with it. At least until after Labor day.

When Romney talks about Michigan trees as being just the right height - not too tall, and not too short - he means Goldilocks trees. That's what we call 'em here.

You're wrong that Ron Paul can't win. A recent poll in Iowa, a key swing state in the election, puts Ron Paul against Obama. Ron Paul wins.

The mainstream media is lying to you. The Occupy movement? They don't support Obama. They support Ron Paul. Obama can suck up to them all he wants, they see through his lies.

As a matter of fact, the latest edition of the Occupy newsletter has a scathing piece on the deal Obama pushed for with the banks for mortgage fraud, and how it totally sells out homeowners who were foreclosed on wrongfully. They get 2k each. Not even two months mortgage payment. And if they had a fannie or freddie mortgage, like most non-rich people do, they get nada, nothing, zilch.

Ron Paul has tremendous support among the youth, chipping away at Obama's base. He has tremendous support among liberals for his promise to bring the troops home now, and stop the endless undeclared wars and the police state. He has strong support among buyers remorse dems like myself. And if he gets the nomination, he will get 100% of the republican vote, or the "ABO" vote.

I'll let you in on a litttle secret... Romney, Santoprum, Grinch, NONE of them generate enthusiasm among the voters. So when they go to caucus or primaries, they come in, they vote, then they go out for a nice meal and maybe see a movie.

Ron Paul supporters? We wait. We sit for hours while the local politicians get thier once every four years moment in the spotlight. They give boring speeches and grandiose pomp and cicumstance.

Still we wait.

When the time comes, often three or more hours later, to select delegates, guess who is still there?

Ron Paul supporters.

Despite what the media is telling you, 60-75% of all delegates selected to go to Tampa for the convention so far are Ron Paul supporters.

If we can unbind the delegates in Tampa, the establishment is in for a HUGE suprise!

Santorum and Grinch aren't even on the ballot in all 50 states. THEY CANNOT WIN! The mainstream media and the big money are just propping them up so they can continue to marginalize Ron Paul.

In the interest of full disclosure, I registered Republican on Feb 13th for the first time in my life, but I still consider myself a liberal in most respects, except for my vehement opposition to Illegal Immigration. I registered as a republican for one reason only. So I can be a delegate to Tampa for Ron Paul.

Alil,

I appreciate your Honesty. BTW I'm a conservative registered as a Republican - had to pick a party or there would be no participation in primaries here in Ohio.

Ron Paul may poll well against Obama, but not in enough of the right places to get 270. His projected EC vote is third best of the three. He won't pull the vote in the primaries. Yes, he has been manuevering to make a take over in the party. He's been trying to do that for the previous two presidential years.

His key is a brokered convention, but the odds of that happening appear to be diminishing as Romney, by overnight polls appears to not have been successful enough to stop Santorum. Gingrich appears to still be fading, but may save Georgia. .

There has been one thing consistent about the polls during this primary. Romney gets overstated by about 2 points, Santorum runs understated by up to 5 points. If Santorum is continues to beat the poll numbers through Super Tuesday, expect Gingrich to bow out and through his support behind Santorum. That should be enough to have Santorum over the top by the convention.

This is why it is so important that Romney does NOT win MICHIGAN..

If he does win then we lose that opportunity for a real candidate to emerge a"Not backed by Wall Street" could emerge...Money.. I mean Romney is a nightmare! Not just running up against Obama but what he would do this country..He lies, spins, spends more than anyone on the panel..

I guess Used Car Salesmen are in Season. Michigan seems to be buying his stump junk part speeches! This race should not be this close!

What in the hell is going on in Michigan! We need to stop this nightmare not fall asleep and dream he is telling the truth..WAKE UP!!! $25 million dollars plus and he can barely hang on! There is a reason! People don't trust him for millions of reasons and he has a record of lying!

Rewind the videos and sleep on it before you vote for this Paid for by Wall Street lying SOB!

Make the GOP will see just how bad We the People" feel about this guy is and serve up another candidate that has heart a brain can relate to people and has real compassion..

Romney is a Phony! Please Michigan stop the madness! ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY!

GOP, The Constitution? Really?

No true liberal could support a man who promised to repeal the patriot act, but instead beefed it up even more, then extended it and signed it.

No true liberal could support a man who signed into law the NDAA, and simultaneously violated his oath of office where he swore to uphold The Constitution.

Obama signed into law the NDAA on January 2nd. Six weeks later I registered as a Republican for the first time in my life. I am in my mid 40's and have always voted democrat, although in 2008 I wrote in Hilary. I registered as a Republican for only one reason. So that I can be a delegate for Ron Paul.

Here, maybe Jon Stewart can explain it to you, unless he's too right wing for you, lols.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-december-7-2011/arrested-development---one-way-train-to-gitmo

ACS,

You should do what you think best. However, the above bill was sponsored by a Republican. One John McCain to be exact. I am not a fan of the enacted bill, but in these times it seems to be a major concern of Americans. Where the blame lies is with our Congress, both the House and Senate.I wrote to them and was at least partially successful by getting one of my Representatives to vote against it. But to just blame Obama because he signed it wrong. Congress already had enough votes to over ride any veto.

Now for Senator Paul. His idea's of "isolation" have been proved by history not to work. WW1 and WW2 are prime examples. His claim that we should adhere strictly to the Constitution forgets a very important part. That it is "for the people, by the people and of the people". His views on racial equality alone disqualify him.

Lastly, people on here forget why the Government was formed besides Defense. It was also formed "for the welfare of the people". Not to butt out, but to help out. Image, the word welfare that is so detested by the conservatives today is one of the most important reason's for a national government.

Just so you know, I am a true Independent that is a moderate in most things. Part conservative, part liberal and always able to look at where blame should be directed. Not by sound bites, biased media or post's on this vine. One last question, did you contact any of your Representatives and strongly urge against the above laws you so dislike? Have a good evening.

Your nose is growing pinocchio, Obama vehemently opposed citizens united and did not accept the super pac for him until it became obvious that he was going to be vastly outspent if he didnt.

Then again Romney too opposed it. It was conservative driven but they seem to ultimately be the losers. They are making this campaign a blood fest that they probably won't recover from to best obama.

Jan (post 10.1) you're dead wrong. Obama talks talks talks, and says what you want to hear...Then he does something else.

In 2008 Obama challenged McCain to take public money, which limits how much you can spend.

Then when McCain did, Obama changed his mind.

Obama was the FIRST presidential candidate ever to refuse public money to avoid it's spending limits.

That was in 2008.

Now it's another election year, and not only does he now love superpacs, he wants to lower taxes on corporations who fund superpacs.

Obama is the one whose nose is growing.

I invite you to use google to verify what I am saying.

It's all true.

Notice how I didn't even have to belittle anybody to make my point?

Michigan voters and many others have a common sense. When it comes to choose between a C (or a B for many like myself) with Obama and an F with the GOP (GOP, have you seen them yesterday???), it is no brainer.

Keep in mind that no president can do whatever he wants, make sure to double check what are the reasons and the people behind a promise Obama could not keep.

The last thing the GOP wants if they win the presidency is a remake of their example in congress, a party of democrats who says NO to everything they present. I think Obama learned the very hard way that there is no such thing as bipartisanship in Washington and if he needs to please someone, he needs to please HIS base. He cannot please both sides.

I know he made a lot of mistakes, but sincere mistakes and due to excessive trust in mankind but I forgive him because at the end of the day, it is obvious that he loves this country and its people. And he really want what is best for America. And God loves him.
And to all those people who question his faith, I have an answer for you, GOD KNOWS who belongs to him and who does not. He does not need public slander or public praises to see what is the heart of men. Santorum, Perry and Rev Graham, among many duped and fallacious religious leaders are in for a big surprise when they will meet their creator.

Sad days for the church in America. Buddhists, atheists and Muslims are laughing. With so much hidden and spoken hate and public disdain between so called Christians, who needs the devil!

And what does this slobbering love letter have to do with anything? The point I was making is Obama knows who has the best chance to beat him and his PAC is out promoting Santorum with anti-Romney attack ads. Obama and the DEMs are salivating over an Obama vs Santorum showdown. They know he'll crush Rick, so they are spending over a quarter million dollars to slander the opponent they don't want to face.

This should speak volumes to the GOP primary voters. A vote for Rick is a vote for Hussein.

VOTE ROMNEY MICHIGAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But That is the point! The GOP voters are not very smart. THe obvious reason is those so called conservative right wing do not even know who is really christian in God's eyes.

They believe Mormonism is a sect (a NO NO for evangelical Christians) so they can't vote for Romney. It is like betraying Jesus, somehow...and what an arrogant man!

If I had to choose a GOP (which I won't by any means) I will vote for Ron Paul. Some of his ideas are insane, not fit for a selfish and greedy society who won't know what to do with complete freedom but at least he is not a fraud like the rest of the GOP panel. That is why the GOP voters are so stressed, they know on their heart that they have lousy choices.

Obama 2012

OK. I agree the GOP is self destructing. Usually it's the Democrats, but this time it is the Republicans. The evangelical base has gone bonkers. Rick is about as electable as Newt's man on the moon. If Mitt is not conservative enough, then you are correct. This will be a right wing social issues train wreck.

My vote will go to Romney. If not, I will go Libertarian, as I usually do. But never Obama. Reasoning: since neither of these jokers has a prayer, I might as well waste my vote for a 3rd Party.

Michigan Vote Romney................or you'll get 4 more years of Obama.........guaranteed

backfire I would rather have four more years with President Obama than one day with Mitt...

Just imagine..." let Detroit die."...."I don't care about poor people" I pay my taxes( excluding my offshore accounts, things I write off....) and NOT A PENNY MORE.

Dot- I couldn't agree more! Romney is a paid for by Wall Street. I don't understand why people can't see this man has been prepared by and for Wall Street and the Rich for years!

He only cares about winning in order to not raise taxes on rich (Estate Tax he will owe over 80 million if he doesn't win)....NO SUBSTANCE LIES SPINS AND YET PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS! LIES SAY ANYTHING TO LOOK GOOD! Do you see how amazed he is when people buy what he is saying..The expression is priceless and disgusting at the same time..

They are drinking the $25 million dollar Kool-Aid! Anyone who truly believes this man has any other agenda than to help the rich stay rich and get richer is completely brain washed..So sad:(

Anything to avoid a real conversation about Ron Paul.

I like Ron Paul. Voted for him myself in the primary 4 years ago. But..........

Backfire, he is our last, best hope.

Don't listen to the mainstream media. We have placed BETWEEN 65-70% OF ALL DELEGATES SO FAR!

After the caucus votes, the other candidates supporters all leave. They don't really generate any enthusiasm among voters.

We stay. We sit and listen to every tin pot county official having thier once every four years moment in the spotlight. We sit through all the pomp and circumstance. And boredom.

And then.....

And then......

We select the delegates. When the cameras are gone, when everyone else has gone, we select the delegates.

Tampa is in for a BIG suprise.

Lolololololololols for days,

Eat it Big Money and Mainstream Media!

Maybe, just maybe, we can save this sinking ship, and EVERYBODY on it, regardless of thier political views.

OK, If Ron Paul is on the ticket, I'll vote for him. GOP or Libertarian. Unless it's Romney vs Obama. Give Obama 4 more years, say good-bye to personal or financial freedom. And get your Doomsday Prepper strategy in quick order. But our primary in Florida is over.

Yes, Romney is the man to beat Obama!! If he was able to get things done in Massachussetws with an 85% Democratic legislature, he will get things done as President. He has the successful business background and experience as Governor. I wish voters would be smart about their choice. They are looking for the most conservative and many think they have found one in Santorum but they do not know that the most conservative will have a harder time getting Independents, the deciding voters of a general election. Romney will get the Indepedents and is the most electable against Obama. He will also never disappoint in debates, especially under pressure unlike Santorum. He really messed up on the last one when he was under pressure, can you imagine what his performance will be like when he will be running against the Obama Machine!! We need Romney, there is no doubt about that!

If you are really serious...You need to Stop drinking the KOOL-AID!

Monty, I'm firing up some popcorn right now.

Say, do you think Jesus would like buttered or plain?

It sure will be cool to meet him. You know, without having to die and stuff.

Good thing I have Charlton Heston in "The Ten Commandments" on BluRay!

Oh wait... You said "Ron Paul has a better chance of getting the republican nomination...."

Sorry, I misunderstood.

It's gotta be Romney, he is the GOP's best chance, the one Obama and the Democrats fear the most (as evidenced by the anti Romney ads put out by the Democrats in Michigan)

Romney 2013!

Huh? What! Seriously you have issues! The Obama team wants to go up against Romney they have been planning on it for years and the ads are to make people like you think EXACTLY like you are! So you will vote for Romney...Reverse physiology my dear! Do you really think Obama and his team are fools? If so..I will type it again...STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!

If you don't know what that means..Google it!