If Europe (i.e. Greece) wasn't playing hell with our economy, I think our recovery would be almost completed; or at the very least much stronger than it is.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not to a separate set of facts.

Amazing! Finally, a company is doing something that is good for our Country and its people.

thanks for the link. plan to repost it once a week on facebook.

LOL Jo-An! R and D are for AUTOMATIC transmissions. Standard transmissions where the driver is actually engaged in the process don't have letters for dummies.

@ Sharky: I'm with you on all points. What the President is proposing is indeed a winner, and aye gwad, the overall economy is showing improvement in all areas.

What about the 450 Million dollars of U.S. taxpayers money going to create jobs in China?

How come he isnt visiting that new manufacturing plant in Nevada?

Its ok for the Federal Government to create Jobs oversees with U.S. taxpayers money and punish private business for creating jobs overseas?

Come on "Truth Team" give us the Truth...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40565987/ns/business-going_green/t/wind-their-backs-powerful-democrats-help-chinese-energy-firm-chase-stimulus-money/

Top Democratic fundraisers and lobbyists with links to the White House are behind a proposed wind farm in Texas that stands to get $450 million in stimulus money, even though a Chinese company would operate the farm and its turbines would be built in China.

The farm’s backers also have close ties with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who, at the height of his hard-fought re-election bid this fall, helped blunt congressional criticism over stimulus dollars possibly going to create jobs in China by endorsing a proposal by the Chinese company to build a factory in his home state. Although his campaign received thousands of dollars in donations from the wind farm’s backers and Reid stood on stage with them at a campaign event they hosted, his office declined to answer any questions about the wind farm’s organizers or their plans for Nevada.

Ido - if you were aware of anything going on you would know that GE is in the processing of building and opening up 4 operations centers in 2014. They are bringing back 70% of their production. But, from what I've seen of most of your posts, you don't know facts - just spout as much anti-Obama rhetoric as you can make up!

LOL Jo-An! R and D are for AUTOMATIC transmissions. Standard transmissions where the driver is actually engaged in the process don't have letters for dummies.

When's the last time you actually voted on a bill in Congress?

An automatic transmission actually fits our system of government much better than a manual.

Ruken, the house has many votes. The Senate is where dreams and policy go to die (usually on Harry Reid's desk).

I agree Jim,They haven't stopped sense 08.

Ruken, the house has many votes. The Senate is where dreams and policy go to die (usually on Harry Reid's desk).

Does the House even have multiple options for voting anymore? I just seem to hear 'nay'.

@ Mike

Yes, keep spreading the FAUX fear facts...

Obama is the boggey man.....be scared, be scared...take your country back....

OBAMA 2012

Do the Teapublicans hate AMERICA so much that the would like to see Zero, Zilch, Nothing , Nada, Gone, the American Auto Industry and USA Manufacturing, are they so in love with the $$$ that Toyota and other foreign Auto makers that they would sell out there own countrymen and women for a few $$$. I have seen the Congressional GOPhers lineup with other countrys against us, If we were at War with these nations These congress people would be tried for TREASON, alas all we can do is vote out everyone of those anti American Teapublicans that are currently in office

you are about as much a ex-teaparty Member as my dog.

Strange thing, the article says the jobs were brought back by Master Lock for labor cost reasons, Obama had nothing to do with it.

Sounds like your dog has got a little more common sense than you

ex TeaParty,

I don't think it's a case of the GOP hating America, I think it's a case of having a different opinion on how to fix the problems here. Also, politicians on both sides of the isle take money from foreign donors and foreign companies. Read "throw them all out" for some examples. Pointing the only the Reps (or only the Dems) makes me think the speaker is just another party lemming.

Start thinking for yourself and evaluate based on ideas and actions - not party affiliation.

Also, start listening to people with alternative viewpoints - you may learn something (even if you don't change your mind).

Jo-An-4354969...(#1.23)...What's your explanation why a lock company can't make them fast enough ???

In his speech Obama made sure to say that MasterLock was a Union Shop.....Remember when he gave that other speech a while back at the Caterpillar Plant...and right after that they had a lay-off....

Well, I hope he travels next to Indiana where they just passed a "Right-to-Work" Law and a week later Caterpillar announces it is moving a plant from CANADA to Muncie, Indiana....Will Joe Biden do a video-link speech for the groundbreaking like he did for SOLYNDRA ????

Right, ex Tea, only Republicans buy Toyotas! Do you know which party the president belonged to who signed the free trade act?

Incredible is the blind support for a miserable failure of a president whose single "accomplishment" has been one month of modest job growth...after 36 months of pathetic statistics.

While I agree with Obama's sentiment, I am very disappointed it's taken him over 3 years to start pushing for these types of items. It also makes me wonder if he will continue to push for them if he wins the next election. If the Democrats had pushed these types of reforms in 2009, I think the country would be in much better shape today. (the funny thing is, it doesn't cost any money to tell a company they will be taxed more if they move jobs overseas, or they will get a tax break if they move jobs back to the US...i just don't understand why our politicians - both sides - are so slow to take these types of steps)

I want to know WHY is comment #1.5 "collapsed by the community", but it got as of now 17 votes?Who is the community "leader" to collapse it?

Ron-1861300...(#1.31)....He's been saving all these things for the election season, so it appears he is governing from the center....He knows the looney-tunes lefties will vote for him regardless, so now he's after the middle that he p!ssed off the last 3 years....

Spider you forgot to mention prior to President Obamas slow 36 months of recovery, the economy was in a FREEFALL losing 800 THOUSAND Jobs a month from Shrubs 2 terms, and all the while the GNOPE party hasnt helped 1 bit

Obama / Biden 2012

I find it interesting that Obama would travel to Wisconsin, of all places for this. Wisconsin is in the middle of a heated recall election of Gov. Walker....The President just gave Walker tons of press coverage about jobs returning to Wisconsin, something the Unions claimed Walker was killing....

Before the stimulus bill was passed Obama's office produced a report that estimated what the stimulus bill would do to unemployment as a function of time. According to that report, unemployment has been a little worse that if the government did nothing. So according to an Obama adviser, all of this spending which has produced mountains of debt has had no effect on the unemployment problem.

I hope Obama's Campaign is paying for the rest of this trip....

"Most of Obama's trip will be devoted to fundraising. The president is holding eight fundraisers for his re-election campaign in the Los Angeles area, San Francisco and Seattle.

After departing Milwaukee, Obama was to attend two fundraisers in Los Angeles. The first is an outdoor fundraising reception at the home of soap opera producer Bradley Bell and his wife, Colleen, featuring a performance by the rock band the Foo Fighters. The campaign expects 1,000 supporters to attend, with tickets starting at $250.

Obama is also attending a dinner at Bell's home co-hosted by actor Will Ferrell and his wife, Viveca Paulin. Eighty people are expected to attend the dinner, with tickets costing $35,800. The fundraising will benefit the Obama Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee for Obama's campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

After Walker gave 1 billion in tax breaks to the wealthiest in Wisconsin, because they are the job creators, Wisconsin has increased unemployment. Hows that tax breaks for job creators working out for ya? you betcha : )

THE REAL REASON SCOTT WALKER COULDN'T ATTEND THE MASTERLOCK RALLY

Walker, who greeted Obama at the airport, had been scheduled to join him for the event at Master Lock but decided at the last minute not to attend. Walker's spokesman, Cullen Werwie, said the governor was recovering from the flu and had to cancel his plans to go to the event.

The governor has been targeted for a recall election that could come in the spring or summer and has sought to define the outcome as a bellwether of how Obama will fare in Wisconsin next fall. Walker has said a win would deliver a "devastating blow" to Obama's re-election campaign.

WALKER TO MEET WITH MILWAUKEE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON ETHICS VIOLATIONS

Scott Walker and his 2 new criminal defense attorneys announced that they are going to meet with John Chisholm, Milwaukee County District Attorney, on the ethics charges facing the governor, now a target of a recall election.

Walkers announcement that he was "volunteering" to meet with John Doe prosecutors "to aid them in their investigation" was met with more than a few guffaws by those of us who have followed Walker in the slow motion train wreck that has been his governing of Wisconsin for a little more than a year.

Obama does not understand central banking... Like I said a weak back and I've been predicting for about 2 months now ahead of the big boys... ( I nailed the greek bust on last april as well just before the June collapse).. Time to jump on board for the next REAL crisis if you like getting rich at the American people's expense on the real weapons of mass destruction... YEAH baby CDS's!!! Weeee. In a 7.5 trillion market, there is room for everyone.. Heck lets make it 15 trillion,, who cares!!! Americans are paying in the end.. I may be all alone, but I have many reasons to believe the best gains will be made on Italian debt... Just ask me why, I would love to tell anyone who really cares... Blood money is not for me, but I understand if you say its ok for you.. The Americans won't feel the pain till after the election, just like Bush's second term... Wake up people. Central bankers have a plan and our leaders don't understand,,, except one, Ron Paul, but even he can not make these predictions so specificly like me... He just knows how to prepare for them but none of you care till after its too late.. Nutty old Ron, lol... So here is todays REAL news.. The European Financial Sector CDS Index has risen +30.4% in 6 days. The ECB Overnight Facility is right back near its Jan. 17 record high. Moreover, the European Investment Grade CDS Index is rising +4.2% to 127.50 bps today.

Ex Tea party Member have you ever looked at an unemployment graph over the years? If you had you would see that the unemployment rate When Bush took office had been climbing then after a year and a half it started dropping and remained low until the last few months. Quite a Nice "Hockey stick" graph isnt it?

Dont you love how the Democrats love to claim Obama created more Jobs than Bush Did during his entire 8 year admininistation?

Maybe we should talk about the unemployment % during Bushes years when they never exceeded 7.4% for 8 years, the unemployment rate was growing when Clinton Left Office and Bush turned it around, and the rate was a nice normal level up until the 2008 economic colapse. When you have a solid economy with 95% of the People employed what makes you think you need to be creating millions of jobs? It appears the amount of job growth was keeping up with the expanding populace just fine.

Obama on the other hand has Been in Office for 3 years and the Unemployment rate has never been below 8%. At the Rate Obama is going it will be five years before the Unemployment rate even gets to the highest it ever was under Bush.

Go ahead take a look at the "Hocky Stick" graph. We know how much you love those "Hockey Stick" graphs.

http://www.thumbcharts.com/1339/unemployment-rate-last-ten-years

Thank God Bush was leaving office when he did, because losing 800,000 thousand jobs a month before he left office was like falling off a cliff, can you imagine if he had 10 months to go before he left, he probably would of lost anywhere from 10-12 million jobs, and when Obama came in a Band Aid wasnt going to work, Shrub and his ilk ruined our economy and major surgery was needed, and finally the patient is recovering , despite the GNOP party

I wonder how many millions in loans Obama has promised to MasterLock.

Obama is merely trying to "look good" after 3 years of his failed "laser-like" vision on jobs.

I guess you didn't look at the graph. If you did you would have seen that the unemployment rate started to rise in 2006 which just happens to coincide with the Democrats winning Control of the House and Senate.

At that time the unemployment rate was 4.4%...

I am glad that the President is getting a chance to leave Washington and take some vacation time. It has been such a long time since he has had a chance to leave time. I hope that he has a good time out our in California. Apparently it is the "rich" whose taxes he wants to raise that are paying for his campaign. I just wonder how much this trip is costing the tax payers especially considering the fact the the federal government must borrow the money to pay for it.

So Master Lock has brought 100 jobs back from overseas. That is impressive. Of' course government action has had nothing to do with it but our President likes to pretend otherwise.

What does our President really know about manufacturing? He toured the Solindra plant and see what that did for them.

I think that most companies that have movered some operations over seas have had to do so to stay in business. I do not think that our President understands nor knows how to solve the real problem. I do not think that the economy has a chance of turning around until solve the trade deficit problem.

Boehner and GNOP where are the jobs?

Have you seen the Graph of jobs lost during the last 12 months of Bush term in office? It started out as 100k jobs then steadily increase over the next 12 months to 800k jobs and under Obamas 1st year in office it did the exact opposite it started out at Bushs 800k and then went down 0 jobs lost a month and for the last 30 plus months we have been Gaining jobs..... Have You seen that Graph? prolly not Faux noise doesn't show the truth it only shows what gullible people want to see

FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD....THE MAN HAD 4 YEARS TO DO THIS ALREADY????!!! Suddenly NOW it's an idea?

ENOUGH - ABO 2012

David Noah -

Unemployment does NOT immediately rise the minute people are elected. It is the result of policies in place the past 1 - 2 years prior. The years prior to 2006 were 100% GOP/Neo-con. Lowering taxes and interest rates to fuel inflation and hide the impact of two wars and the flight of millions of manufacturing jobs from the USA by covering with the housing bubble was shameful. Unemployment was only that low because they had fabricated mortgage, real estate building, lending and sales jobs on smoke & mirrors - and worthless collateral supporting a huge section of securities.

The GOP-Neo-cons wanted wars, but didn't fund either of them while cutting taxes thus setting us in a deficit tailspin.

Deception, lies, criminal behavior combined with war crimes in the Middle East. All set in motion in 2002 by the Bush Admin and the PNAC cabinet.

David Noah - you seem not to have considered the data carefully. Looking at a graph is not worth much if you do not understand what it says. The economy was already tanking when the GOP lost out in 2006. I pulled my money back then - the Dems had nothing to do with that. Bush & Cheney spent trillions, ruined our reputation in the world, killed our economy, and are even afraid to travel overseas for fear of being put up on trial for war crimes.

The housing bubble was cover for their domestic failures. They didn't care. They only wanted to succeed with their neo-con agenda.

Guess Clinton escaped your notice. Perhaps you might want to look into Bill's actions against Saddam, his statements about WMD and a few other items attributed to Bush. Then take a gander at Bill's repealing of Glass-Steagal. The money was there for the wars, it was appropriated. Perhaps there needs to be a 'Truth Team' to expell some commonly held liberal misconceptions.

As to Master Lock, they'd better be careful. Every time Obama shows up at a plant for a photo op they end up going bancrupt.

Targeted tax incentives and penalties are exactly what's needed to assure equality in ALL free trade arrangements, not just China's. Master Lock didn't bring people back because they were overly patriotic, they brought them back due to changing conditions and costs in China. But you can bet that they will continue to look overseas as long as it will make a buck... the tax incentives push them our way.

The time to do this is now. Jobs are being created... let's create them here.

Okay, looks like the Republicans and Democrats worked together long enough to get the payroll tax and unemployment benefit done. Let's see if they can do this as well. It will be branded as Obama's idea, so I doubt they'll stomach it, but we'll see.

mygirl1

Guess Clinton escaped your notice. Perhaps you might want to look into Bill's actions against Saddam, his statements about WMD and a few other items attributed to Bush. Then take a gander at Bill's repealing of Glass-Steagal. The money was there for the wars, it was appropriated.

Sounds interesting, but I can find no support for your history recollection... especially the bit about the money being appropriated for the wars... how on earth was that Clinton? Any links or references?

LMarcT..."Okay, looks like the Republicans and Democrats worked together long enough to get the payroll tax and unemployment benefit done."

Yup....They all agreed to borrow more money that my Grandchildren will have to pay back....thanks for nothin'........

LMarcT: http://vcnv.org/money-for-nothing-iraq-war-funding-2004-to-2007

This explains away the myth that the Iraq war was unfunded by "neo-cons" and, Clinton was indeed the person going after Saddam, following on the heels of Bush Sr. and Desert Storm. Now then, of course, 9/11 happened under Bush's watch. Sooo, rewrite it to suit your narrative but there is a historical timeline. Do your own research.

Just like Obama touted manufacturing and jobs at other places?

What about when Obama visited Caterpillar, Inc., on February 12, 2009, trying to push his $787 billion stimulus package, that would be passed into law four days later on February 16, 2009. (Even though just one month earlier, in January, Caterpillar had announced that they would be cutting 22,000 jobs.) Remember, on February 13, the day after he visited Caterpillar, Representative Aaron Schock, from the same district that Caterpillar is located in (the 18th congressional district of Illinois), spoke on the house floor. He said, "Not one employee at that facility approached me and asked me to vote for this bill. In fact I have received over 1,400 phone calls, emails, and letters from Caterpillar employees alone, asking me to oppose this legislation. Why? Because they get it. They know that this bill is not stimulus. They know that this bill will not do anything to create long term sustained economic growth." This proved to be true, because on March 17, 2009 Caterpillar announced another 2,400 more layoffs.

What about when he visited Solyndra LLC on May 21, 2010 and promised to give them $535 million of our tax dollars? Which by the way, we can't forget that an independent accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP warned him two months before that visit that they had money problems ---- problems big enough to "raise substantial doubt about it's ability to continue as a going concern." Even so, on August 31, 2011 Solyndra announced that it was filing for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, and went out of business.

There is an interesting article in today's Washington Post about the venture capitalists in Obama's administration and how much money was channeled by his adminstration to fund clean energy firms. Titled Federal Funds Flow to Clean Energy Firms with Ties to the Obama Administration. To date five green energy firms getting Obama money have declared bancruptcy. Seems lots of campaign contributors to Obama make out like little bandits when it comes time to offer up taxpayer monies.

Obama's good friend, George Soros, has benefitted mightily from his support of our dear leader.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php.?id=49542

Lest we forget, Mr. 'Tax me more than my secretary' Buffet has also enjoyed much benefit from his support of Obama.

There's only three things I need to know.

#1. The "Occupiers" burned the Flag of the United States of America on the Steps of the Oakland City Hall that they stole from the city hall while causing 2 million dollars in Damage that the people have to pay for. The City of Oakland estimates that the "occupiers" have cost the city(the people) of Oakland 5 million dollars so far.

#2. President Obama, Pelosi, and the socialist Democrats have all spoken out in support of the "Occupy" movement.

Elected officials who swore an oath to protect the United States of America supporting a group that Burns the American Flag just like an Extremist Terrorist group. Not once have any of them spoke out against the violence, destruction of public and private property, complete disregard for our laws and communities, economic terrorism by trying to shut down ports, and defiling our flag that represents the United States and the Republic for which it stands.

#3. Dave Mustaine Endorsed Rick Santorum.

O.k. Number 3 is just a bonus. I will never vote for any one or any party that turns a blind eye to the Burning of the American flag. How could any American support a Party that stands by and does nothing while the greatest symbol of this country is desecrated?

Obama why don't you go to Iran and burn there flag and see what happens...

Santorum for President!

So ex Tea Party dude, were you actually a part of the Tea party, or that's just a pun????

Look, the economy IS recovering, jobs ARE being created, and the recession IS over. You wanna know why??? Obama's stimulus. Saved millions of jobs and reversed the recession. We've had job growth for months, millions are back on the payrolls, manufacturing is recovering, and America is on the mend.

To correct you Ruken: if Europe (i.e. Greece) and the GOP weren't playing hell with this economy, then our recovery would be almost completed, or much stronger than it already is.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

David Noah

There's only three things I need to know.

#1. The "Occupiers" burned the Flag of the United States of America on the Steps of the Oakland City Hall that they stole from the city hall while causing 2 million dollars in Damage that the people have to pay for. The City of Oakland estimates that the "occupiers" have cost the city(the people) of Oakland 5 million dollars so far.

Occupy Wall Street is not an organized movement. You can't blame them all for the actions of some.

#2. President Obama, Pelosi, and the socialist Democrats have all spoken out in support of the "Occupy" movement.

Elected officials who swore an oath to protect the United States of America supporting a group that Burns the American Flag just like an Extremist Terrorist group. Not once have any of them spoke out against the violence, destruction of public and private property, complete disregard for our laws and communities, economic terrorism by trying to shut down ports, and defiling our flag that represents the United States and the Republic for which it stands.

Once again, OWS is not organized. In addition, the Democrats are not Socialists. Examples of socialists are the Socialist Party of America.

#3. Dave Mustaine Endorsed Rick Santorum.

Irrelevant.

O.k. Number 3 is just a bonus. I will never vote for any one or any party that turns a blind eye to the Burning of the American flag. How could any American support a Party that stands by and does nothing while the greatest symbol of this country is desecrated?

What would you expect them to do? Flag burning, whether it offends you or not, is free speech. The United States has done bad things in the past, and is in no way a perfect country.

Why do you disapprove of the President? You must be unpatriotic!

Obama why don't you go to Iran and burn there flag and see what happens...

Santorum for President!

I thought we were better than Iran? For example, we do not have an official religion. Santorum wants to change that and make us more like Iran.

I thought Geithner said the recession was over last summer! Well, the market tanked today and gas is expected to spike over $4 a gallon by May- just because he showed up at a lock place doesn't mean we still aren't going over the cliff. Most people have seen through Obama's rhetoric and see him for the charlatan he is. There's just the die hard egotists who can't admit they were WRONG and system suckers that are still making excuses for his failure. Pathetic.

Obama is spending our tax dollars running around the country campaigning and making promises AGAIN. Remember those promises in 2008? Close Gitmo, stop the wars, fix the economy blah blah blah. Kept none of them except pulling out of Iraq with his tail between his legs because of failed diplomacy instead of with a solid self government there, oh and also threw bombs here and there LIbya etc. Totally disregarded the Constitution doing whatever his majesty wanted. Now more promises. Kind of like that husband that cheats then promises to be true forever and some are dumb enough to believe them until they are caught again. WE don't need to be enablers for anymore of our countries destruction. Vote them out and get our country back. He even bragged about Ford's good progress when he was talking care companies. FORD is the car company that turned down his government bail out money and made out just fine on thier own, he had no part in it at all. This spin things is so rediculoud it gives one a headache.l Economy growing? Only thing I see growing is the price of gas, thanks to EPA and Obama's refusal to develope our own energy sources. Now he wants to shrink the military and get rid of our nukes. For just what purpose? I hear constantly about Medicare cuts, nothing about Medicaid cuts. Enough is enough already.l

Becareful Wisconsin, the last company obama touted (Solydra) went bankrupt!

Shaking my head-2479300

Obama is spending our tax dollars running around the country campaigning and making promises AGAIN. Remember those promises in 2008?

According to politifact, he has fulfilled more than a third of them, and has made progress on an additional one third.

Close Gitmo,

Failed no thanks to strong Republican opposition.

stop the wars,

Not sure what "promise" you are referring to. He promised to exit Iraq, and he did so. He promised to increase troops in Afghanistan, and he did so. now we are pulling out of Afghanistan, after having killed most of Al Qaida's leadership.

fix the economy

Job gains every month and unemployment better than it was before the stimulus.

oh and also threw bombs here and there LIbya etc.

US was in Libya for less than six weeks.

Totally disregarded the Constitution doing whatever his majesty wanted.

Such as?

I hear constantly about Medicare cuts, nothing about Medicaid cuts. Enough is enough already.l

Why would we want to cut from Medicaid? You realize Medicaid is health insurance for poor people? Do you want poor people to die? The Republican view on this probably reasons that if more poor people die, the number of people out of work will decrease.

ex Tea Party member has no credibiliy.... my god even his name is a lie, lol! Who are you really ex? Eh?

Mark, the slug called ex Tea Party member has already been outed! The guy has always been a libbie, he just emulating the president. You know like pretending to represent family values, when in fact he's attacking them or calling for unity when in reality he's promoting class warfare.... I could go on....

With ex Tea Party member we only need to click the ignore button. With the president we just need to Vote in 2012! ABO 2012!

Nice try Sharky: That fact is, if there is any kind of recovery, it is in spite of Obama and the dems and RINOs, not because of them. But, my first impression when I saw they headline and first paragraph was: gee that's too bad Master Lock is going out of business. It seems that every time Obama visits a business and touts it as a model of whatever, they end up going out of business within 18 months. We shall see. At least they weren't touted for being "Green", that would most surely be their death nail.

Teaclowns lets see UAW I wonder who there going 2 vote 4 Wisconsin the same the Woman The people like me that just got a job AN on an on an on Your entire FOX HEADS BLAME the President 4 Kiliing Jobs [Bahner an Co]Commies get no blame..... But a Fake War an Killing AMERCIANS an Inocent people is Accepted by you Clowns,,,,Stay out of my BEDROOM I pray this election is not Rigged AN my Religon

Ruken- I see you have stopped blaming Bush for the presidents short comings and have started blaming Greece, how about put the blame where it belongs with Obama and his failed leadership and policies.

If Europe (i.e. Greece) wasn't playing hell with our economy, I think our recovery would be almost completed; or at the very least much stronger than it is.

Its unbelivable that the rwnuts have not problem blaming Carter for the 10.6% unemployment rate reached during the Reagan administration, but I guess the economic principle that unemployment is a lagging indicator during a recession only applies to the GOP. (LMAO). Next, did you people even noticed that the annual growth in GDP during the Bush administration averaged about 2.5%. When Bush entered the WH, it was 4% and was only 3.6% for one year. So, if the taxbreaks to the rich, so called job creators, was suppose to stimulate and help the economy grow (FACT) they didnt. You know what they did with those tax savings, built those new factories that started popping up in China after 2001. The GOP is just a one trick pony (taxcuts). Taxcuts to rich investors no longer work in this global economy as capital investments and jobs are too mobile.

Next, between Bush and Cllnton tariffs were reduced to almost nil, Bush finished the job Clinton started by making sure that China became a member of the WTO, between the two, they signed 8 new freetrade agreements when only a couple existed before. MY QUESTION IS WHERE IN THE HECK WERE ALL THESE CONCERNED CITIZENS WHEN THIS WAS ALL GOING DOWN? This all set the platform for companies like apple to produce their new products in China not here. Once invented, the Iphone and Ipad were never produced here. Please don't start whinning about unions, taxes and regs because Ireland had low taxes and regs and union leaders in bed with industry, but still lost many jobs to Asia after 2000.

You notice that the GOP party sweetheart, Romney, brags about saving two companies, retail stores, who they wanted to remain here to sell the crap they produce in China. He sent all the capital based, equity building, well paying manufacturing jobs to China.

Finally, Oh maybe I was wrong above, the GOP is a 2 trick pony with their proposals for immediate and drastic deficit reduction. You don't reduce the deficit during a recession look at what happened when they did that in Europe aka "austerity measures." Many of the countries there are going into a double dipped recession and having below zero and zero growth and soaring unemployment. Reagan didnt reduce the budget or deficit but doubled them during a less severe recession and kept tax rates at 50% until the last two years in office. I do agree we need to address the ever increasing retirement entitlement programs, but there is a bit of time before we have to do that. Now is not the time!!! Our biggest problem is that we have too many voters who think with their emotions and political ideologies instead of facts.

Its unbelivable that the rwnuts have not problem blaming Carter for the 10.6% unemployment rate reached during the Reagan administration, but I guess the economic principle that unemployment is a lagging indicator during a recession only applies to the GOP. (LMAO). Next, did you people even noticed that the annual growth in GDP during the Bush administration averaged about 2.5%. When Bush entered the WH, it was 4% and was only 3.6% for one year. So, if the taxbreaks to the rich, so called job creators, was suppose to stimulate and help the economy grow (FACT) they didnt. You know what they did with those tax savings, built those new factories that started popping up in China after 2001. The GOP is just a one trick pony (taxcuts). Taxcuts to rich investors no longer work in this global economy as capital investments and jobs are too mobile.

Next, between Bush and Cllnton tariffs were reduced to almost nil, Bush finished the job Clinton started by making sure that China became a member of the WTO, between the two, they signed 8 new freetrade agreements when only a couple existed before. MY QUESTION IS WHERE IN THE HECK WERE ALL THESE CONCERNED CITIZENS WHEN THIS WAS ALL GOING DOWN? This all set the platform for companies like apple to produce their new products in China not here. Once invented, the Iphone and Ipad were never produced here. Please don't start whinning about unions, taxes and regs because Ireland had low taxes and regs and union leaders in bed with industry, but still lost many jobs to Asia after 2000.

You notice that the GOP party sweetheart, Romney, brags about saving two companies, retail stores, who they wanted to remain here to sell the crap they produce in China. He sent all the capital based, equity building, well paying manufacturing jobs to China.

Finally, Oh maybe I was wrong above, the GOP is a 2 trick pony with their proposals for immediate and drastic deficit reduction. You don't reduce the deficit during a recession look at what happened when they did that in Europe aka "austerity measures." Many of the countries there are going into a double dipped recession and having below zero and zero growth and soaring unemployment. Reagan didnt reduce the budget or deficit but doubled them during a less severe recession and kept tax rates at 50% until the last two years in office. I do agree we need to address the ever increasing retirement entitlement programs, but there is a bit of time before we have to do that. Now is not the time!!! Our biggest problem is that we have too many voters who think with their emotions and political ideologies instead of facts.

Opphs "no problem" above

Obama spends minutes in Wisconsin touting union manufacturing, after cowering for months during Walkers bold move to get the books straight in his state! What a hero (BS). But wait after he has a tough 4 hour flight to do 8, yes 8 fund raisers! USA Today front page article. More kids in poverty than ever before. But our caring president has raised the most money ever. What the hell is he doing to help the poor? Maybe more fundraisers. The correct number of jobs since Obama took over in 09 is -549,000 Bureau of Labor. It is always nice to just talk about the jobs created, but how about the jobs lost? Please someone tell me how this is a good thing?

Pamela, you are right on about the trade agreements that have been signed since Nafta, and the loss of jobs here and the enlargement of financial business worldwide. Few people realize that non- American business now has the ability to sue our government for discrimination or unfair business practice, yet those same country's do not have to abide by our Constitution, employment laws or other rules. This is a win-win for foreign traders and investors as they now produce profit from differances in social makeup and not productivity or expertise. Currancy manipulation by foreign country's, China is one, have lowered the cost of their product here in the States', and made our products more expensive in those same countrys'.

Geo, your statement regarding net jobs loss is out of context. You cannot blame Obama for jobs lost at the very start of his Presidency, as his jobs bills were not passed until February. Excluding January 2009, Obama has had a net jobs gain. As you see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms). During Bush's entire presidency, from his first budget to his last, there was a net job loss of 1.8 million jobs. Looking just at his second term, there was a net job loss of 4.5 million jobs. Obama, from his first budget, has had a net job gains of some 1.9 million.

Sharky...the bottom of your post reads:

"PAID FOR BY OBAMA FOR AMERICA"

"© 2011–2012 Obama for America. All Rights Reserved"

Of course, we all trust that it is absolute and true.......

Mr.Anon, What budget? I was not aware he actually passed one!

Geo, the government runs on a budget. Their have been numerous side- shows by Conservatives to shut down the budget process, but that is for political fame, and people like you.

Mr.Anon, What budget? I was not aware he actually passed one!

2010 had a passed budget.

Bob, Obamas 2011 budget did not receive 1 vote. Spin that! Mr. Anon I want to congratulate Obama for passing 1 budget in his presidency.

Politics, again my friend. You and I knew from the get go that the 20011 budget was doomed, not one Republican voted for any expendature from the Pres. from day one. This also showed up with a majority of the Republicans voting no to raise the deficit ceiling, possible all of them. It has been obstruction, contrary to history in the votes. Look back in all history and you will find that the Pres. budget is the base of the actual budget passed. The actual passed budget is less than the Pres. because it looks good to the constituants of those coming up for a vote. Never has the Congress been in a partisan camp as they are today. They have passed debt-ceiling increases, with attached budgetary pork, that was never done before in Congress. Congress is to blame, point fact, they are the one's who are changing the way business is done in a non-traditional way. It takes two to Tango.

And please don't tell me it is a sign of a bad Pres., or the Congress has been in Dem. control.

geo, perhaps you should enlighten yourself to the selve-serving policy of the right......... read the attached articles, and who sponsored the Bill...........http://rvette454.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/06/10333903-usbic-backs-rep-mo-brooks-lets-vote-on-the-currency-manipulation-bill .......................... http://rvette454.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/06/10333947-republican-house-leaders-obstruct-conservative-sen-mo-brooks-call-for-currency-manipulation-bill ....................................

http://rvette454.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/20/10460863-petition-tell-speaker-boehnerstop-china-from-killing-us-manufacturing-jobs-sherrod-brown .....................................

You can open these links by pointing to them then right click. This is the State of OUR Congress today.

The reason the Presidents budget recieved few votes is that it was not large enough to reduce, and make a majority vote in favor. Congress wants to get their own for their constituants and contributors, and appear to lower the Pres. budget. Never believe a politician. This is from a old timer who has seen these debates for 60+ years, and the subject changes but the revenue will not.

Yes improving. Seems to have been overall stable, with the exception of some markets such as housing, for a while now, and now appears to improving. Business and consumers are apparently confident it is not going to get any worse and slowly returning to their old ways.

It is interesting though, that before, everything negative in the economy was the result of Bush and now that things are turning around a few short years later, it's automagically the result of Obama policies.

It is interesting though, that before, everything negative in the economy was the result of Bush and now that things are turning around a few short years later, it's automagically the result of Obama policies.

Saying Bush caused it and Bush did nothing to repair / slow it down are two different things.

Yes improving. Seems to have been overall stable, with the exception of some markets such as housing, for a while now, and now appears to improving. Business and consumers are apparently confident it is not going to get any worse and slowly returning to their old ways.

Housing will continue to be sh*t until people get above water on their mortgages. Manufacturing is coming back. High tech never really got hit. The stock market has been on a tear the last 2-3 months.

Like I said the signs are there. It's just Europe and the global economy dragging us down.

hs321,

Bush's policies took us down the drain,

and Obama's policies are pulling us out.

I know it's getting tough for the guys over at Faux to get just the right spin on "economic improvement",

what with the "just say no Congress" and all, but come on....

Time for individual thoughts...change the channel.

The economy does seem to be on the mend.

Yep -- and Republicans HATE it. They can't stand good news. What republicans want is a 5% jump in unemployment and $7.00 gasoline.

Charlie,

It was Obama who said gasoline prices would necessarily rise under his energy plan. Nice distortion by you !

Well jim --- gasoline prices are up but NOT as high as they were under Bush.

COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .


ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 9%.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemploym

"Hope his teleprompter does not break down."

When you have NO ideas, NO solutions, and NO answers, NOTHING positive to offer – you talk about such import things as, teleprompters, college transcripts, birth certificates, czars, rounds of golf, worthless garbage like that. Then you throw in even more garbage with words and phrases like “socialist” and “Marxist” and “he’s not one of us” – all that kind of crap. But the bottom line is more and more Americans are realizing that the right has NOTHING to offer and that’s why President Obama will be reelected in November.

@Charlie...

:) Truer word's have never been spoken!

OBAMA 2012

Cgent47 there are a lot of reasons why unemployment rate is only calculated by the number of people who want to work.

There are a number of people who aren't looking for work. This includes people from rich families and people who get money from other sources. It also includes people who have given up on looking for work, and this is why the unemployment rate is expected to rise later this year - more confidence in the economy leads to more people looking for work.

How do we know the economy is improving? A better statistic to look at is job gains over the month. In January 250,000 jobs were gained. Compare this to January 2009, where 750,000 jobs were lost. It is inevitable that the economy is improving. The only thing disputable is whether Obama caused it or not.

Now, general consensus among economists follows that reducing taxes and increasing relief spending is the best way to help the economy. Normally, this increased spending and reduced revenue (due to tax cuts and the fact that there is a recession) wouldn't be considered completely fiscally unstable. In fact, if Obama had inherited the possible $5.6 trillion surplus that he would have had if Bush continued Clinton's surpluses, this would be completely fine.

However, even before the recession, the deficit was $400 billion, then a record deficit. This was because Obama started in the middle of two wars, and had the top income tax bracket at a near low. Obama isn't intentionally trying to run deficits, he has made many proposals to keep deficits as low as possible, but all of them get rejected by Republicans in the House and Senate. However, we have to be very careful in a recession not to cut spending from essential sources such as Medicare/caid, Social Security, Education, and infrastructure.

If anyone is confused about the economical/fiscal situation, please read the above.

The left are just so mentally challenged, they don't acknowledge any ideas, solutions or answers that disagree with theirs. They throw out crap like, blame Bush, racism, vote for it to find out what's in it, unemployment is good for the economy, share the wealth, tax the rich, but the bottom line is more and more Americans are realizing that the left has NOTHING to offer and that's why public servant Obama will be shellacked in 2012. Epic failure.

ABO 2012

dude are u related 2 PERRY you need 2 be 18 to VOTE NOT 12 CLOWN

Why is it so difficult to see that the economy collapsed under Bush? I experienced it vividly. I was affected by the collapse just as my parents were by the Hoover collapse.Therefore, I know when it happened. Obama couldn't have figured into that event because he was not yet in the White House. AFTER he was in the White House he did things to improve the economy and to keep us out of a depression that would have made the Great Depression look like a quick game of Monopoly. We could be on our feet and moving forward with great optimism if it had not been for the Republicans declaring war on ALL Obama's efforts becasue they still dream of the neo-con hundred year Reich. Obama stands in the way of that. Consequently, they literally hate him.

Yes, you have to admit Republicans, per say , us the "Blame Obama" rhetoric, without knowledge of economic trends from the past. Yet when Bush's administration started during a downturn that was expected by most economists, they blame Clinton. Double edged sword is what they use. Much of what voters used to elect Obama, was the current economy at the time of election, now they deny the fact.

I'm glad things are on the mend after the total destruction that George W. Bush left this country in Three Years ago... I don't like an awful lot about Obama, but I think he has got good idea's for bringing back the Backbone to America, Manufacturing,

This Masterlock company is a great great story of how America can be again, I hope....

Wasn't Mr. Obama also the one who made idiotic comments early in his Presidency about the evilness of private ownership of business jets, that set aviation manufacturing in this country back to the lowest levels in decades?

How about fixing that, Barack?

No, is the most correct answer. Base your allegations on more than what you remember and more on facts.

As long as Jeffrey Immelt works for Obama, I cannot believe a word he says about jobs.

crying shame,

It's a shame, but that is NOT what Obama said!

Yeah obama knows a lot about business. See Solyndra! Everything proposed or supported by obama should be opposed. this guy has done enough damage to our nation. ANYONE BUT obama IN 2012!

Enjoy your tea while you can mcpaddywack. Its time for America to have another tea party and dump the tea out of Congress. Thanks for doing exactly nothing but obstruct!

The crazies don't believe Bush ever existed. They believe Obama followed Clinton and both ruined everything.

8 years of insanity,

and NOW they are MAD!

OBAMA 2012

Yep, Erico....

Mr. Obama FINALLY assumed responsibility for the Economy 2 years AFTER he sat in the oval office.

If he would stay AWAY from D.C., maybe small businesses will have a chance to survive and drive the economy.

Oh, blaming anyone else on the economic conditions is NOT in Mr. Obama's "Truth Team" handouts, it has been eliminated.

Eric..."NO support from the GOP"...None? Didn't Obama and the Republicans vote together on the Free Trade Act? Or, you could say, the Democrats voted against Obama on the free trade act.

HS- your right...The GOP has done nothing but look out for the best interest of the American People, and have not decided to play potical games instead....I stand corrected.

The "Job Growth" timeline speaks for itself....The Sh*T had already hit the fan prior to Prez Obama taking office....like it or not, it's the truth....

UNDER BUSH (last 5 months in office)

Sept 08: -425k

Oct 08: -480k

Nov 08: -787k

Dec 08: -658k

Jan 09: -839k

UNDER OBAMA (1st 5 months in office)

Feb 09: -725k

Mar 09: -787k

Apr 09: -802k

May 09: -312k

Jun 09: -426k

Oh yeah...positive job GROWTH since March 2010...

Eric,

Can you cite your source for these numbers? Reports I've seen show your numbers as quite inflated.

no where important ....just the US Dept of Labor / Bureau of Labor Statitics annual report.....have fun!

If he would stay AWAY from D.C., maybe small businesses will have a chance to survive and drive the economy.

Ido...quit watching FOX news. The Republican party has NEVER been the party of small business! NEVER! Look up small business (not major corporation) legislation over the past 30 years and who supported it...and who opposed it. Get a clue!

Eric the first five months of Obama in office is your ammo? The hemorrhaging from the Bush tumor was still out of control. The Reinvestment Act (Stimulus) signed by the president was never meant to be a short term fix. It takes time to repair damages from a catastrophic 8 years of failed policies.

Memory-

I agree 100%...8 years of failed policy is what got us to where wer are today. The job numbers of Bush's last 5 months, and Obama's first 5 months, was stated to remind those of us who forgot how bad the economy was prior to Obama taking the office....

My apologies Eric!!! I was coming off jet lag yesterday and thought I read you as being like so many and wanting an instant recovery. Glad to see we are on the same team =) So sorry I misread your response.

He has urged companies to promote "insourcing," promising new tax incentives for businesses that bring jobs to the U.S. instead of shipping them overseas and eliminating tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs.

Oh, and if you're mad about the millionaire surtax thing, don't be.

Trickle down economics has never worked, nor will it ever work.

We do not need you in the democratic party believe me, I guess you must be rich or are you one of the few that are going to be rich soon. The president has said if you bring manufacturing jobs back to the US, you will get lower taxes and for the last time; we are already paying the lowest tax rates in 50 or 60 years. Vote america and pay your taxes.

Obama has not created jobs. In fact, he is causing job losses. He only has positive numbers because unemployment benefits are running out and they're not being counted and the overall number of jobs has dropped. Dont be fooled, it's an election year shell game. He doesn't care if people are unemployed and struggling. If he did, then he would being doing something about the $4 a gallon gas, the huge debt he's running up and the massive tax increases that will go into effect on Jan. 1st if he gets re-elected. He's worse than Carter..

Obama The GOP has not created jobs. In fact, he is they are causing job losses.

"If you vote Republican and are not a millionaire, you are literally voting against your financial interests."

Finally someone that gets it!! Thank you Iowa Guy! Reading the article (if anyone had done so) clearly says that because of the global market changes in China it was cheaper to make here in the US than overseas. What has that got to do with Obama and his supposed plan for the economy?? Companies will always seek out the cheapest avenue for producing their product. When the US finally realizes that then jobs will come back here.

Scott Walker is a terrified "class act" looking for a photo op to save his job! He didn't vist the plant out of fear for the reception he would receive from the workers!

Scott Walker is a ANTI-MIDDLE-CLASS scumbag.

Walker wasn't going to follow Jan Brewer's rude behavior, that's for sure!

I doubt he was "recovering from the flu"...

Skeeered is more like it!

Walker got the big shrivel.

lol

Scott Walker is true leader! he doesnt pander to voters like the idiotic obama.

Scott Walker has more leadership and class in his little finger than Obama could ever dream of having. To the fools who think Scott Walker is anti-middle class, you absolutely have no clue. I cannot think of a governor more friendly to the middle class, even more so than the beloved Tommy Thompson, as for Jim Doyle, he should have been the one recalled, 5 years ago, he was a catastrophe for Wisconsin business and the middle class, unless you are one of the 9% who belonged a public service unions. If anyone should get credit for Master Lock bringing jobs back, it should be Scott, his main objective is to make Wisconsin business friendly with tax cuts, thus bringing back jobs, thus growing the economy, thus benefiting everyone. Why is this such a hard concept for liberals to comprehend?

As for the vane attempt to recall Walker, its not a matter of if there will be a recall election, but how spectacularly it fails, Walker will trounce whoever decides to run against him. Bank on it. Furthermore, the independants of this state are not happy about a non-stop election cycle in this state, they may well take it out on democrats again in November, potentially costing Obama Wisconsin, a state he will desperately need this fall.

Walker is going to be recalled. It really isn't a question at this point.

Guys!...But Obama and Walker have agreed on taxes for quite some time now. How can he be bad if he and Obama are in such agreement?

“First of all, he’s right. Normally, you don’t raise taxes in a recession, which is why we haven’t and why we’ve instead cut taxes. So I guess what I’d say to Scott is – his economics are right. You don’t raise taxes in a recession. We haven’t raised taxes in a recession. …. We have not proposed a tax hike for the wealthy that would take effect in the middle of a recession. Even the proposals that have come out of Congress – which by the way were different from the proposals I put forward – still wouldn’t kick in until after the recession was over. So he’s absolutely right, the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in the middle of a recession because that would just suck up – take more demand out of the economy and put business further in a hole.” – President Obama, 2009

OldSchoolLatinTeacher - Scott Walker has NO class - just brass. He is about to be recalled so he goes into every meeting with his tail between his legs. He is an imbecile at best. President Obama can and does walk circles around any and all Republicans. The pathetic right wingers just can't bring themselves to admit it.

Speaking of no class, the leftists who have trashed our capitol, assault law makers, made threats to people who oppose them, even taking their vitriol to his (Walkers) personal residence. Yet through it all he has never leveled any resopnse to these classless, clueless spoiled brats, thugs, and misfits. Yes the recall will come to a vote, Walker will win easily, by a bigger margin than he won in November 2010. The democrats started this, they ran away with their tails between their legs, instead of offering reasoned arguments for legislation they didn't like, they were the cowards, they quite their jobs, they are the ones who should be recalled. It is democrats who have divided this state and this country. Your day of reckoning will come, maybe not soon enough for most of us but it will come.

hardtostarboard - again, no class. Walker will lose - plain and simple. Republicans have worked hard to divide and ruin this country. A party that used to stand for something (GOP) now is the lowest group of people around. "Your day of reckoning will come, maybe not soon enough for most of us but it will come." Americans usually try to work together to get things done but since the GOP has professed - from his first day in office - to make Obama a one term President, to hell with America - we have been divided. Democrats and Independents working for America - the GOP against all we stand for.

mcpaddywack
Scott Walker is true leader! he doesnt pander to voters like the idiotic obama.

Nope...he panders to Charles and David Koch!

I think Scott Walker's case can be sumed up in the lyrics from the nine inch nails song:

"Bow down before the one you serve...you're going to get what you deserve"

hardtostarboard - don't get it do you? You tried to recall Democrats and it didn't work! You really believe walker stands a snowball's chance in hell? Watch and learn!

So Seeking,

Why don't you explain to us how Master Lock benefitted from Obama's economic policies? Clearly state where they received some type of federal stimulus that made it an advantage to move its labor force back the US? I thought not...this is nothing Obama on a photo op taking credit for something he doesn't deserve. Only the global market changes effected Master Lock to review its labor structure and conclude that it is now cheaper to produce its products here in the states versus overseas. It gawls me to think that there are people on here thinking Obama is responsible for this new "investment" in America. To think otherwise is just pure fantasy...

Yep. Walker certainly has more class than the infantile people posting negatively about him. I actually met the man and personally know his financial chief of staff very well. The guy will give you the shirt off his back--even to his most vile enemy. I was a Truman/JF Kennedy Democrat a while back. They wouldn't even be allowed in the party anymore. Go ahead, lefties, and ask what government can do for you as you worship blindly at its altar. Apparently that requires you to check all decency at the door.

old school teach.....Where have YOU been hiding? Take two more sips of "tea" and get your rest. Walker is a sicko for the Koch brothers. Try and keep up dear.

Prays. I live in Western Wisconsin--with honest working folk. Never been to a Tea Party rally. I just read and do my own research. Besides, what you haven't realized is that I'm not behind you, I'm about to lap you for the third time. I could probably kick you in a 5K as well even at my age. But you keep thinking you're all that... It might be all you have left. Have a good life and do take off the blinders. Tunnelvisioned is no way to go through life.

Old School perhaps you had the blinders on when Walker said this to the supposed David Koch,,,,,

"

WALKER: You've got a few of the radical ones -- unfortunately, one of them's the minority leader -- but most of the rest of them are just looking for a way to get out of this. They're scared out of their minds. They don't know what it means. There's a bunch of recalls up against them. They'd really like to just get back up here and get it over with. So the paycheck thing, some of the other things threatening them, I think collectively there's enough going on, and as long as they don't think I'm going to cave, which again we have no interest in. An interesting idea that was brought up to me by my chief of staff, we won't do it until tomorrow, is putting out an appeal to the Democratic leader. I would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly Democrat leader, plus the other two Republican leaders—talk, not negotiate and listen to what they have to say if they will in turn—but I’ll only do it if all 14 of them will come back and sit down in the state assembly. They can recess it... the reason for that, we're verifying it this afternoon, legally, we believe, once they’ve gone into session, they don’t physically have to be there. If they’re actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they’d have quorum because it's turned out that way. So we’re double checking that. If you heard I was going to talk to them that’s the only reason why. We’d only do it if they came back to the capitol with all 14 of them. My sense is, hell. I'll talk. If they want to yell at me for an hour, I'm used to that. I can deal with that. But I'm not negotiating.

"KOCH": Bring a baseball bat. That’s what I’d do.

WALKER: I have one in my office; you’d be happy with that. I have a slugger with my name on it.

"KOCH": Beautiful. "

Reminds me of the Watergate Tapes, and calling Dems. "radical", come on this talk was not for political gain, but a contributor of his campaign.

Nice you could post a link or any backup to your fantasy, Bob...

Keep trying... It's amazing what people will post when they can't post facts... I posted a request from Seeking asking a question and naturally all you get is silence. And Bob, all you add to the conversation is noise... It's like being in a classroom with a group of 1st graders...

Here is the link for you, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnSv3a6Nh4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3a2pYGr7-k&feature=related,

Also politifact of Wis. has his score on his statements , http://www.politifact.com/personalities/scott-walker/

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/promises/walk-o-meter/promise/526/create-250000-new-jobs/

here is one that is also fact. Six staight months of job losses in Wis.. It took awhile for the links to upload, perhaps my computer, but they are there now. Politifact is a great source of political fact.

Ow and JK, thanks for the rebuttal.

Search Rep. John Boehnner, he really stinks when it comes to the truth.

For those who need a better understanding behind Scott Walkers budget , here is a link........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdV81Bybt0 and here is a link that exposes Walkers Plan and his admission that he did not openly explain his budget, and had made a mistake and was "stupid" when he was pranked called. Sorry, about the lost links in my previous posts.

JK, you have added nothing but your opinion about others, at least in referance to me.

Funny, how that loss of some 20,000 jobs in Wis. in the past 6 months, translates in the Wis. State Report as a lowering of unemployment rate to 7.9%, and it is less than neighboring States, as stated by the Wis. government, yet they fail to notice that job growth in 2 of those neighboring States is rising.

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/states/

Here is another good link for our readers,............http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/may/11/one-wisconsin-now/one-wisconsin-now-says-two-thirds-wisconsin-corpor/, yes fully 66% of Corporations in Wis. pay no State income tax for the previous 8 years. That leaves a greater burden on individual income earners. The recent SCOTUS ruling that Corporations are people should extend to taxes also.

"Officials at both agencies report this: Of 52,497 corporate returns, 17,564 had a tax liability totaling almost $703 million." this direct quote from the link above is the total income collected from corporations in Wis. for the last tax year. WOW, $703mil for all the Corporations collected by the State.

Bob: politifact? really? Forget I said blinders and tunnelvision. A more accurate assessment of the left is blindfolded and brainwashed. Sad.

And a reputable counterpoint? Please don't use the Heritage Foundation or Chamber of Commerce as there are many links that do not support their political view. Notice Politifact has accepted the Pulitzer Prize, a reputable organization of News policy. Again you fail to address the 6 month loss of jobs in Wis., as admitted by the State government, so where are your facts coming from? LOL. You can keep trashing the reputable organizations, but at least give some back round to your rhetoric with plausible fact that can be discussed.

To dismiss Politifact, which has examined both party's statements and found them false or true, leads me to believe you do not search for the truth but some "moral high ground " that benefits you directly.

Perhaps you have not read the research model that Politifact uses, getting supporting statements or contrary statements directly from the source of the issue. You can also double check their work, as I have shown here with the jobs growth in Wis. issue. I urgently request your reply.

This link attributes their comments directly from the U.S. Dept. of Labor Statistics. Care to comment on Gov. Walkers job growth profile now, or refute the facts.

ol_Doc, are you even from Wisconsin? Or do you get all your news from MSNBC, Huffington Post, CBS, NBC, ..... Tell me who's most like to run against Walker. I'll tell you who won't Tom Barrett, he doesn't want to be a 2X looser. After him, nobody stands a chance. I can hardly wait for all the blame to start within the democratic party after they asses the damages, 10 of millions spent, nothing, nada, zip to show for it.

Timed out on the computer. here is a link, http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2011/12/15/incorrect-job-loss-estimates-draw.html or http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-report/capitol-report-wisconsin-leads-nation-in-job-losses/article_500cbbc4-2b33-11e1-8eff-0019bb2963f4.html or http://badgerstat.org/2011/jobs/ orhttp://www.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/communityblogs/135456673.html, should I go on for the your knowledge and will you accept this as a reputable statistic?

Hard, yes tens of million spent by Government and both Party's,but that is the way it is in this political enviornment, and with the lack of caimpaign finance rules now in effect in both State and Federal Election.

You have to admit the recall followed present guidelines set by law in Wis., now it will be up to the voter to decide. Interesting to note that Republicans have entered their own candidates into the Democrat Recall Primary as a means to stall the vote, and disenfranchise trhe voter, and cost the State Government more.

Why would a political Party sanction using their own candidate's in their oppositions Primary Vote, other than to delay, and obstruct the Constitutional Right of Voting? Here is your link,http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/06/08/wisconsin-first-spoiler-candidate-comes-forward-to-force-democratic-primary-for-recall-elections/

Please don't use the tactic of lowering me to your level, in order to become the expert at innuendo.

Hard, are you suggesting i stay out of the comment thread because I am not from Wis.? You are on Newsvine a Internet site that is accessible to anyone with a Internet connection. Wis. politics will effect me eventually, as we are a Republic of States, with a Central Federal Government. I get a kick out of Dennis Kuchinich of Ohio, asking plainly how collective bargaining in the Wis. budget law effected the budget itself,,,,,,,,,,Walkers response was we are returning the rights of Wis. people to them,,,,,,,,,,,, contrary to the normal government action which would involve the courts in "rights" issue's, Walker issued his own ruling on a law that had been in effect for some 40 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Walker went of subject, and never gave a answer to the direct question of how his change effected the budget of 2001-2003, because it did not in the instances Mr. Kuchinich made apparent that were in the bill. Power play by the Republicans to change a law in effect for nearly a generation, and call it a budget plan for 2001-2003. The link is posted above in my former comments, if that makes sense to the "tea-cher".

Bob: I really feel sorry for you. You must be one who worships at the altar of politics and/or government--at the very least it appears to be your obsession. Find me a Harry Truman or JFK, and I could vote Democratic, but the Democratic leaders of today are just shallow, angry people. They lost me long ago. Have a nice life.

It is sad that you take the "moral highground" in defence of your comments. Is that what the Founders did in the original Constitution, which has been amended numerous times in our history?

Again, if you want to take the "moral highground" prove it with out your rhetoric, and bias. Bias is a more politically sound word then "prejudice" as that really gets the "rights " underwear in a knot.

By the way, may i ask a question and get a answer? Why are you on this parasitic website, which you yourself proclaim as being wrong and not objective, and as you say " Forget I said blinders and tunnelvision", other than to pronounce yourself as being morally better than us? Please saviour enlighten us with links and posts that can be debated instead of your "morals".

Back on subject now Teacher, or will you spill more vial "moral" comments today?

Would you suggest Walker is in the same category as Truman and Kennedy, if so how are they alike? Is it just their "moral" backround that makes them usefull to you?

Unfortunately your thought is true, the GOP/Teabaggers will fight tooth and nail to protect their Vulture Corporate Capitalist masters. The sleeping giant is alive and well and ready to defend OUR American Dream against the GOP/TEABAGGERS. Obama/Biden 2012

Teabaggers gave America

A Boehner!

OBAMA 2012

LOL

It's lasted longer than four hours.

I think I need to see a doctor.

ROFLMAO

Being recalled could be the least of Walkers's problems. He may be going to jail.

Republican's 2012

Keeping millions out of work

to put one man out of a job

OBAMA 2012

yes! anything it takes to send obama packing back to chicago. ANYONE BUT obama IN 2012!

Fianlly Jo-An you understand!!!

mcpadddywack......Yea like Mitt...flip/flop/flip/flop?...or Ricky S. ? lead by his bible thumping. Ronnie P. ...a "stick your head in the sand" worldly guy? Or My all time favorite Newt and the pole dancer? Get a Clue the GOP/ TeaP only have themselves to blame for this 3 ring circus of CLOWNS. Oh yea...and the people have had a gut full of the teaparty jerks. Nov can't come soooooon enough for us.

OBAMA...2012

He's been looking out for the worker from day one, would you like to try again.

Are you stoned?

YES, bmac,

ARE YOU STONED?

OBAMA 2012

That's all you have?

tryreality,

yup, that's it! That's all they've got!

OBAMA 2012

Bush's free market that outsourced millions of manufacturing jobs oversees? Worked out well huh?

subliminal - what part of that plan DOESN'T make sense to you? Tax cuts to keep jobs here and higher taxes if you want to send jobs overseas. Makes total sense unless you are a complete moron!

Tax cuts to keep jobs here and higher taxes if you want to send jobs overseas.

Does this go for the oil companies as well? This is the government trying to pick winners and losers again, it will not end well.

Manufacturing can survive on its own if our government would enforce our existing trade agreements. Jobs aren't moving to China because of cheaper labor (transportation costs back to the US eat up much of that advantage). Companies move to China because they get the export advantage subsidies that China provides with an artificially undervalued currency. They also move to other countries because they don't have to implement expensive environmental controls. Steel produced in China is cheaper in part, because they do not enforce many (if any) environmental regulation on manufacturing in their country. There is currently no trade remedy when manufacturing in the US has to pay a capital cost of 20% on a project on environmental controls alone. There's an additional 20% price/cost advantage to moving production overseas.

Lisa Jackson and Obama's EPA have not received the memo that manufacturing is good. There were fewer Title V air permits granted last year than any other year in recent memory.

Manufacturers impact their environment. If you give your dog food and water and lock him in your living room unattended for several days, he will impact his environment. The same goes for manufacturing. They produce goods, but they also produce wastes and pollution. I was under the assumption that the left never supports manufacturing because of this.

Ditto (heads)

And they are proud of that title!

LOL

What happened...

hey...my toilet overflowed...the dog down the street got run over...the power went out..it snowed far to much...ALL the Pres fault...?? Get a life! You have losers elbow...just like the GOP/Tea

Obama 2012

In a negative mind like yours, anything is possible.

More like delusional mind.

what happened
I can't wait to see a press release of Obama visting all the post offices where the 128,000 employees who are about to lose their jobs will be waiting to ask him why he didn't do anything in 3 years to save their jobs.

And who went after the Post Office? Why, it was the Republican Lead Congress passing the most insane retirement funding law ever seen on the face of the earth. Requiring the Post Office to fund the retirements for people who haven't even been born yet! Thank you for bringing that issue up! It makes republicans with their "starve the beast" policies smell even worse than they did.

tryreality-1568930 & Ruken

Reality is tough to swallow, isn't it?

his so-called recovery act almost turned a recession into a depression. Haters? what a moronic term. ANYONE BUT obama IN 2012!

Haters? what a moronic term.

^ Then it suits you perfectly. :)

Jealous haters

his so-called recovery act almost turned a recession into a depression.

^ Wrong again. Read, Estimated Impact of the Recovery Act, from the Congressional Budget Office.

You can google it on line.

According to the CBO the recovery act helped bring the recession to an end and added several million jobs to our economy.

Do you have counter proof that can refute this?

And I don't mean - Sean Hannity stumbling around drunken, an in denial that the President succeeded in killing Bin Laden where W. was a miserable failure.

Hannity's brand of whining only proves that you're a sore loser.

Can you even read, at all?

mcpaddy,

The facts (not FAUX facts, the real facts) prove you wrong!

AND the ABO crowd ARE haters, noted by the clown show calling themselves the GOP!

OBAMA 2012

yes patriots hate what is happening to our country under this failed president. ANYONE BUT obama IN 2012!

mcpaddy,

I'd vote Republican

but I'm allergic to NUTS!

OBAMA 2012

Yea, I hate the fact we're adding jobs again. Damn that failed President!

Scomma

That easy to contradict. Ever hear of the term "garbage in, garbage out." The CBO is fed its numbers by the Obama administration. Garbage in, garbage out. Case in point.

The CBO claimed that the The affordable Health Care Act would pay for itself from numbers supplied to it by Obama and his democratic lap dogs before the vote was taken. Garbage in, garbage out.

Then after it passed and was signed into law, we learned what it was really going to cost us and do to our economy when the CBO released its revisions. You remember when the CBO said the affordable health care act was going to bankrupt this country.

Might I suggest you grow up and start thinking like a mature adult even though it will be hard for you.

what happened

Might I suggest you grow up and start thinking like a mature adult even though it will be hard for you.

Very mature statement...

what happened - the CBO gets factual numbers from many sources before they release their report. Your comments are just lies.

mcpaddywack - your lack of patriotism belies your comments. However, your name says it all and clearly is perfect for you!

what happened - You know NOTHING! The Congressional Budget Office is a non-partisian office of the United States Congress tasked with providing Congress and their Staff the most accurate current information and projections possible. It is one of the ONLY non-partisian clearing houses for information. But go ahead and listen to American's for Prosperity (Koch Brothers), or CATO Institute (Koch Brothers), or Tea Party Express (Koch Brothers), or the John Birch Society (Papa Koch), or get some really diversity FOX News (Murdock).

"Bow down before the one you serve...you're going to get what you deserve"

yawn....

re: like he would actually use his hands to do any type of real work.

^ He uses his mind being intelligent as he clearly is.

When he's done working - his hands are still clean.

When the haters are done hating, they're still stupid

Jo-An-

All you all right? Are you able to get your foot out of your mouth? Its okay! You don't have to be embarrassed and try to hide it as a yawn.

ScommaG - "when he's done working..." my guess is your are a 350+ pound fat a$$ that is somehow supported by the government. Wake up... this clown is putting us in debt faster than anyone else in history. And when the good ole USA runs out of cash, how are you going to get your Marlboro Lights, Ding Dongs and US Magazines?

how are you going to get your Marlboro Lights, Ding Dongs and US Magazines?

Any true fatty knows that it's Zebra Cakes and Cosmopolitan magazine.

what happened - Jo An has no need to be embarrassed. You however, that's a totally different story.

Juiceisgood - I'm a 120 lb slender woman and work two jobs. I also have an IQ in the high 180 range and don't smoke. Ding dongs aren't my thing but I do read Money, and a few other magazines. And, your posts show a total lack of intelligence as well as a lack of integrity. So, why don't you go back down into Mommy's basement and play your star wars games?

Become a billionaire that wants to eliminate the middle class and you'll have your wish.

Oh yeah...the evil rich people.....what an idiot.

Yes, the likes of the Koch Brothers, Karl Rove and dick Army want to put the middle class out of our misery once and for all. They have been promoting class warfare through their pea brain lemming like you IDIOT.

Only a liberal gets a trophy for coming in tenth place. GM got a $60 billion taxpayer bailout. After a $3.2 billion profit, they call that reason to celebrate. Never mind $1.5 billion of that came from the money they got from dumping auto parts manufacturer Delphi.

^ Listen to the bitter GOP losers. Hating on GM for being number one in the world.

This is why you can never win.

You are pinning your waning hopes on Romney - who's been running for President and LOSING for 20 years now.

lol.

Number one in whay way? It surely isn't in quality.

Number one in whay way? It surely isn't in quality.

In sales it is.

In fact their quality is so bad, they have the most sales of any auto company in the world.

mcpaddywack

This guy really hates American craftsmanship, wow. I bet he drives a Japanese car and buys Chinese goods from Walmart. From the sound of his comments though maybe he just buys Russian.

Yeah an enemy list...just like richard nixon........liberals are lost at sea.

.just like richard nixon........liberals are lost at sea.

^ You must be lost if you think Richard Nixon was a liberal.

He was a GOP conservative - JUST LIKE YOU.

Uh, Richard Nixon was a Republican president...

Kinda ironic a Republican president formed the EPA, isn't it?

You need to expand your mind outside the realm of faux news. You look awful silly with that stance.

Try reality

As you know from reading my posts, I don't watch fox news nor do I support their political rhetoric. Like I tell you to grow up, I would tell anyone who falls for their garbage to grow up.

You have to be a child not to know that those Fox News hosts are laughing all the way to the bank with the gullibility of their watchers. Talk about immature rear ends of Donkeys, much in the same way you are.

Perhaps the most critical measure of our economic health as a country is our total national debt to GDP ratio. The following numbers show how Obama’s policies have failed the American public.

U.S. National Debt to GDP ratio:

1992 – 60% (Bush Sr. last year in office)

2000 – 60% (Clinton last year in office)

2008 – 70% (Bush Jr. last year in office)

2009 – 85% (Obama’s 1^st year in office)

2010 – 93% (Obama’s 2^nd year in office)

2011 – 102% (Obama’s 3^rd year in office)

2012 – at least 105% (estimated)

Peter:

Those statistics are deceptive. Bush Jr. had to destroy the surplus Clinton handed him first.

Also, budgets are passed a year (just one? idk) ahead, so Obama isn't responsible for the first 15% increase.

That's it..... that's your explanation?

fall out from the 8 years of Bush and we will continue to pay for it for many years to come. Numbers aren't the whole story and isn't the only factor.Bushes poor leadership took down the economy you know the one that pays taxes.gave trillions to the rich and oil companys bailed out wall street, you know that economy

The myth of the Clinton "surplus" comes up again and again. It never happened. The last year the national debt did not increase was 1957 when Eisenhower was in the White House, over 50 years ago, and that was our last real budget surplus. That is why we now have a 15+ trillion dollar natioal debt. Budget gimmicks and off-budget spending do not make for a real balanced budget.

In addition, Clinton left a recession for Bush to deal with. GDP growth was already negative with rapidly dropping federal tax revenue as Bush was sworn into office.

Hey Peter dont you know deficits dont matter...well according to Cheney anyway. The followers of Voodoo economics drove this country in the ground and hopefully we will not have to revisit this nightmare again.

peter, read this and weep. It is as accurate as you will get, without being political or skewing statistics...

http://factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/, notice that Republicans claim it was because they were the majority in Congress and held the budget, but it was the increase in taxes that Clinton is given credit for that balanced the budget. We have not had that tax rate or code since Bush 2 and the Republicans changed it in 2001.

Peter, according to wikipedia you are incorrect as to the extent and timing of the 2002 recession, it was a weak one as noted in this link, and did not effect us until 2002.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession

If Clinton left a recession to Bush, what would you say Bush left Obama?

Bob - these are the official national debt numbers from the U.S. Treasury. Please see if you can find even one year when the national debt did not increase while Clinton was in office. The only year he even came close was the 2000 fiscal year, and that was the year the tech/equity bubble broke. High income folks were making huge dollars from their investments jacking up government revenue that was never sustainable and STILL the national debt increased.

5,674,178,209,886 - (9/30/00)

5,656,270,901,615 - (9/30/99)

5,526,193,008,897 - (9/30/98)

5,413,146,011,397 - (9/30/97)

5,224,810,939,135 - (9/30/96)

4,973,982,900,709 - (9/30/95)

4,692,749,910,013 - (9/30/94)

4,411,488,883,139 - (9/30/93)

4,064,620,655,521 - (9/30/92)

Peter, your quote "The myth of the Clinton "surplus" comes up again and again. It never happened", is incorrect as the word surplus can be used in the Federal Deficit, as explained by the link I provided. You are spinning the fact of a Federal Yearly Surplus, under Clinton, and using it to make a biased comment on the National Deficit, which is the accumilated debt of all years of Government. Spin Baby, Spin will not explain "The myth of the Clinton "surplus" comes up again and again. It never happened", which is untrue in context to the debate and comments listed before you.

"The last year the national debt did not increase was 1957 when Eisenhower was in the White House, over 50 years ago, and that was our last real budget surplus.", can you explain "real" in a financial or political aspect?

Here is a more specific look at the National Deficit, and Budget, from prior terms of Pres. and Congress ............http://cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm......... this explains a lot about what politicians say and actually do.

This one gives the general trends in the National Deficit, based on Presidential Term. http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm, suggestions to the contrary are irrelevant.

As you can see Pres. Clintons last budget was within <1% of reducing the National Deficit, but Bush's tax reduction in 2001 stopped all progress, and was passed by the majority Republican Congress.

Bush's budget was a expanded deficit as passed in 2001.

Bush's tax cuts and his expanded budget deficit, changed the direction of our trend in National Deficit. After many economists warned of the decline in tax revenue coming with the small recession of 2002, Pres. Bush increased the budget deficit and lowered the revenue by tax law.

Obama killed the US economy, gas prices doubled in the last three years, unemployment rate over 8%, debt increased 52% in four years. These are the issues voters will remember, not a dead terrorist. Just ask Bush Sr who had a 91% approval rating after Desert Storm and lost in November.

Guess Obama's in luck then, since the private sector job growth improves each month!

OBAMA 2012

Obama killed the US economy, gas prices doubled in the last three years, unemployment rate over 8%, debt increased 52% in four years. These are the issues voters will remember, not a dead terrorist. Just ask Bush Sr who had a 91% approval rating after Desert Storm and lost in November.

One of the best decisions we ever made, putting Clinton in Bush Sr's place.

JoAn,

You apparently don't keep in touch with employment agencies and head hunters as I do to keep track of the hiring mood. Check out how many of them have gone out of business since 2009. Actually unemployment is in double digits.

Road Warrior,

Obama killed the economy? Really?

Only the very misinformed think such a thing. So, how do you ignore these key pieces of information which you would naturally run into if you were doing responsible research as to what caused the recession...?

1) The first month Obama took office we had lost 700,000 jobs. The month before we had lost 750,000 which is a strong indication that a recession was already well underway and there was clear momentum to job losses before he took office.

2) The unemployment rate was 7.6% the month he took office....considering there was clear momentum (see point 1) to the job losses wouldn't it be a bit unfair to blame the unemployment rate on him?

3) First of all....show me where you got your statistics that show the debt has increased 52% in four years. Also...Obama has only been in office for 3 and the FY2009 budget was Bush's.

4) More on debt....do you think it's possible that due to massive layoffs (see point 1 and 2) that there was a severe shortage of revenue to the government....that there was much less economic activity? That he inherited two UNPAID for wars along with the Bush tax cuts (Unpaid for) that added to our debt....were these his fault?

And known of my points got to the heart of what caused the recession. The recession was caused by decades of deregulation.....

The Great Recession was declared over by economists in the summer of 2009. Every time the economy tried to rebound Obama made a speech knocking businesses and talking about fair share. After lying about shovel-ready jobs, he blocked real shovel-ready jobs with the Keystone pipeline. If Obama had done nothing, the economy would be steaming along by now. He waited until election year to get the bus out of the ditch.

Road Warrior,

Proof???

Proof that he lied about shovel ready jobs???

Proof that if Obama had done nothing that the economy would be steaming along by now??

It's funny because the CBO who I take is smarter than you said quite the opposite about the stimulus. The CBO stated that the stimulus passed by the Obama administration not only saved our economy from ruin but actually sped up the recovery. I can provide the analysis if you would like?

Grow up Jo-An-

We have a 100,000 men and women in Afghanistan that would have killed Obama if they could of found him. Even my 90 year old mother would have killed Obama given the chance.

Talk about a pathetic excuse for supporting a man who is bankrupting this country.

You know what Obama said when he first heard the news that they found Obama. He wanted to know if they could keep it a secret and hold off until right before the election to try and grab him. It wasn't an option.

Vipp,

Millions of shovel-ready jobs were promised in all his pre-stimulus speeches. Then he said in his CBS interview that "shovel-ready wasn't as shovel-ready as expected" and laughed about it. That was in the RNC ad also. I'll give proof that he economy would be steaming along now if you give me proof that another Great Depression was avoided if not for Obama's policies.

You can't give proof of what "might have been" Road Warrior. It's an oxymoron.

Vipp

You want proof

The Postal service lost $3.3 billion and is in the process of laying off 128,000 workers to start with. Obama has had 3 years to deal with this problem and did nothing. The solution to the postal services problems is it need new ways to generate revenues. DUH! YOU don't even have to be a Harvard man to figure that out unless you've educated yourself into stupid which it seems Obama has done.

lets see, Kodak, Sears, Boeing, American Airlines, Kmart to name a few who have already announced they will be laying off workers this year.

I'm not going to keep repeating this to people who refuse to grow up and think like adults.

DUH, Obama and his campaign say the economy is in recovering, Duh!. It must be true because I'm too lazy to get informed about what is happening in this country because I know Obama is the man, someone told me so. Duh!

Ruken,

Then I ask you how you can say Obama prevented another Great Depression if it never happened.

Ruken,

Then I ask you how you can say Obama prevented another Great Depression if it never happened.

You can't definitively say if he did or not.

You can say what he did to slow down the Recession's advancement and what might have happened, but you can't say that he absolutely without a doubt avoided a depression.

Do I think he likely avoided a depression? Yes.

Can I say with 100% objective certainty he did? No.

Vipp,

Another great line in the RNC ad was Obama saying over and over again "This is the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression". Then the ad followed by showing Obama saying he had no idea the economy was this bad, using that as an excuse for the slow recovery. The man is running out of excuses.

what happened,

How come Bush didn't get him, if your granny could of?

You are FULL of S#!T!

You know what Obama said when he first heard the news that they found Obama. He wanted to know if they could keep it a secret and hold off until right before the election to try and grab him. It wasn't an option.

Who'd ya hear that one from? Hannity? Rush? Or has Glenn been yukking it up again??

OBAMA 2012

OK, JoAnn, he killed Osama. Do you know how many votes that will get him? ZERO. It's the economy stupid. For the next eight months, you will see the media saying things are getting better and the voters seeing their lives all gong to hell in a hand basket. Gas prices are expected to hit $4 by May. It may not be Obama's fault, but his blocking the Keystome pipeline will on the minds of voters when they fill up.

Road Warrior,

I'm glad that you find the RNC ads exhilarating and full of truth....but I'm asking you to do research...unbiased research.

As Ruken pointed out...I can't say with 100% certainty that Obama's policies helped to avoid a great depression...but I do listen to those who aren't affiliated with one group or the other. The CBO has given the stimulus a lot of praise for helping us....and the CBO is certainly more reliable than you or your RNC ads.

Road Warrior....please go and look at the charts and statistics are the BLS website....you might learn something.

Vipp,

Most voters are not political junkies like us. Most can't even tell you who the Speaker of the House is. Those ads are very persuasive because they show Obama saying one thing and doing another. Now, Obama can counter those ads with his defense of the last four years, but I have a feeling he can't justify the big issues to the average Joe and Jane such as the debt, the number of soldiers lost in Afghanistan under his watch, the (real) unemployment rate, gas prices. The biggest knock on him is his inability to unify the nation. People who voted Democrat for the first time thinking he was the one to unite the nation. He said he would. Just look around you. Are we united??

Road,

Well the economy IS IMPROVING! That's just a fact!

Most middle of the road American's are really tired of ALL the negative campaigning coming from the CRAZIES out there now! Tearing each other up like wild animals!

Obama looks like the ONLY SENSIBLE adult in the room! Things might not be perfect, but who would be silly enough to hand the keys back to the GNOP???

I think American's in general are much smarter than that!

OBAMA 2012

Road, unfortunatly you have been basing your Obama slam, comments taken out of context. You have not supplied any links to co-oberate your assumptions. You just throw them out as you remember them. Others, who you dis agree with have noted C.B.O. reports and other links to established sources, yet you come back with "We'll I remember when Obama said This". Can you not see how degenerative your comments are, and how others must feel about your bias, and reality. Just asking.

Sorry for the mis-spelling, it is all my fault.