Romney breaks losing streak, wins Maine caucuses

Brian Snyder / Reuters

Mitt Romney arrives with his grandsons Joe, left, and Thomas to speak at a Republican caucus in Sanford, Maine, on Saturday.

GOP front-runner Mitt Romney won Maine's Republican presidential caucuses with 39 percent of the vote, breaking a three-state losing streak by besting libertarian-leaning Ron Paul, who finished a close second with 36 percent.

Romney had 2,190 total votes, while Paul got 1,996. Rick Santorum finished third with 18 percent (989 votes). Newt Gingrich was fourth with 6 percent (349 votes).


Voting in dozens of local caucuses across the state has been going on since late January. More than 20 caucuses were held on Saturday in something of a grand finale. Results were released by the state Republican Party Saturday night.

Romney sorely needed a boost after having lost, surprisingly, three nominating contests this past Tuesday.

February had been expected to be a relatively easy stretch for Romney, but former Pennsylvania Sen. Santorum’s victory in Colorado and Minnesota’s caucuses, along with a non-binding primary in Missouri, fueled fresh questions about Romney’s ability to win over a broad swath of conservatives.

Paul said he was not deterred by the Maine caucuses.

See the Maine results here

"We're not going away," Paul told supporters after the Maine results were announced. "We have the message America needs at this particular time."

That message is "liberty," he said, including "the right to run your life as you choose " and to "keep the fruits of our labor."

The Maine caucuses are the last contests before Feb. 28 primaries in Arizona and Michigan, followed just a week later by March 6’s “Super Tuesday” slate of primaries and caucuses.

Brian Snyder / Reuters

Ron Paul greets voters outside a Republican caucus in Sanford, Maine, on Saturday.

Romney won the Maine caucuses in 2008 with just over half of the vote, riding the advantage of having governed nearby Massachusetts. Romney also decisively won this January’s New Hampshire caucus, coverage from which bleeds into Maine.

But the GOP primary’s putative frontrunner learned a lesson about taking caucuses for granted last Tuesday when he lost similar contests in Colorado and Minnesota – each of which Romney had won in 2008 – to Santorum.

Santorum didn't compete in Maine, but Romney made a trip to the state on Friday evening to participate in a town hall. His campaign made a small ad buy in the state, as well, during the time in which Republicans gathered for caucuses.

Romney faced his stiffest competition in Maine not from Santorum or former House Speaker Gingrich, but from Paul. The Texas congressman’s campaign strategy has keyed in on these caucuses, where his enthusiastic supporters can participate more actively.

Paul campaigned in Maine for a couple of days in late January, and his campaign desperately needs a win. Paul hasn’t won a single contest yet despite his focus on caucuses, though he’s working to accrue additional delegates in the allocation process. Failing to win in Maine, though, calls into question the wisdom of the Paul campaign’s long-term strategy.

The Maine caucuses are somewhat unusual in the sense that, unlike most other caucuses and primary elections, they were conducted over the course of the past week.

Maine will send 24 delegates to the Republican convention this summer, though the caucus is only the beginning of a process in awarding these delegates to candidates. The specific allocation will be decided at a later date.

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Comment author avatarSamianRestored

I wonder if Ron Paul's going to drop out now.

  • 19 votes
#1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:27 PM EST
Comment author avatarChris-749391Restored

This makes a major headline? Ron Paul isn't even a Republican! He's a fricking Libertarian!

  • 22 votes
#1.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:31 PM EST
Comment author avatarusa1967Restored

Doubt it, but he probably should. I like the guy but he just isn't the total package to be President.

  • 35 votes
#1.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:31 PM EST

rick santorum/ Newt Gingrich would be much better candidates to drop out, why would candidates coming in 3rd, 4th think they have a chance?

  • 52 votes
#1.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:32 PM EST
Comment author avatarPhantomBeastExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Prez O is smart. He doesn't have to seriously campaign; Just let these RepublicanCrimeCartelThugClowns go public with their unacceptably criminal behavior, and Voila!!!!!

There they are!!!: All TV'd Up! Like Dracula, Frankenstein and The WolfMan; MittTaxPittance Rommel, THEGangrene and, last BUT NOT in the least, The WolfManVomitorium! YESSSSSS!!!!! First off is DRAC: aka MittTaxPittanceRommel, Who will START A WAR WITH Iran, And A very Profitable War for his RepublicanCrimeCartelCorporateMasters AT THAT!! The Count was "nice enough" to expose his taxes!! Hmmm...Let Me See Now...Drac paid 13% on $42,000,000 income EEEZZZZ MONEY: About 5million AND!!! WE American Taxpayer Victims PAID The Count's REMAINING $7,800,000 Tax Liability!!!! Thanks for SUCKING US Dry Drac!!! AND Aren't We "LittlePeople" Thrilled that The Count is nice enough to Let US have the Honor of Paying His Taxes!! He WILL ALLOW Even, the Poor, Whom HE HAS STATED He "DOES NOT CARE ABOUT" To coughUp his Tax Liability!; 'Long as they got A BloodyJob with deductions Drac can get his FANGS into their BloodMoney as small as it might be!
Then There is Frankenstein, err...THEGangrene who, with his department store mannequin "Other Half", will turn to Destructive Rage at the drop of a wrong word or moment!!! EGADZ, This SelfEntitled Creature of Pleasure will Start A War for his RepublicanCorporateMasters AnyWhere, AnyHow, AnyWay, EVEN On The Moon!, as long as there is profit and Franky gets a stipend from it!!! ANYTHING TheGangrene Touches will Putrify and Rot like what is left of OUR AmericanBodyPolitic!!! Watch Franky TRY to Come alive with "lightening" speed at the RepublicanNationalCrimeCartelConvention!!!
Now Comes The WolfMan Vomitorium... What Can be said!! Such a Goot'Lookin'Boy! Ooh Facime! What A Face!! how could he do Anything Unsavory!!! BUT When The CORPORATE SYMBOLS rise in his eyes TheVomitorium begins his hungry and Very Hairy Growling for American Taxpayer's Blood!!!!
Yes!! THERE is your victim Wolfy!! Go and Savage It WolfMan with BloodLust Fangs and All! Our American UniversalHealthCare System!! All of OUR Allys have it, EVEN the TowelHeads Have A NationalHealthCareSystem!, This Political Beast Savaged and ALSO Struck down OUR Bill for AnAmericanNationalHealthCareSystem!!! Then, when The Killing Is Over, Out Steps The 'A nica'Boy Vomitorium; Ooohh!! How CleanCut!! Yes And so are His savage sever wounds on OUR AmericanHealthCareBill!!!!Brother And Sister American Putting these guys In Power is Having Dracula Guard our BloodBanks!!! You Saw What the Count Did......

  • 43 votes
#1.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:37 PM EST

If he does we are screwed

  • 21 votes
#1.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:37 PM EST

Another big government establshment facso-republican will be like another 4 years of Obama.

  • 27 votes
#1.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:39 PM EST

Can't Ron P run as a independent at this point or is it too late?

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

With less than 10% of the voting complete, and Romney having only 5% of the total votes? Romney, one of the richest 1% is exactly who Obama wants to win so he can easily get a second term.

  • 30 votes
#1.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

I believed Romney would win. Too many of "Paul Revere's" decendents living there. Still hold the grudge against Ron Paul for cheating Revere back during the reveloution.

  • 7 votes
#1.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST
Comment author avatarjustoneguyRestored

ModAmPat

With less than 10% of the voting complete, and Romney having only 5% of the total votes? Romney, one of the richest 1% is exactly who Obama wants to win so he can easily get a second term.

HA HA Mod - dream on....so Obama was pulled from a food-line to be Prez???!! Think again - Obama has been an epic fail. ABO 2012

  • 22 votes
#1.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:45 PM EST
Comment author avatarMary Jones-1616541Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@!$%# You

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM EST
Comment author avatarwho is the man?Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

F$^% Mitt Romney and F&#@ United healthcare------------------------------------>

  • 20 votes
#1.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM EST
Comment author avatarMary Jones-1616541Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Fuc@ You. And quit voteing for yourself. You embarrassing your mother,

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 PM EST

No, Paul's a Republican. You can't oppose some of our most basic civil liberties and still call yourself a libertarian.

  • 21 votes
#1.14 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM EST
Comment author avatarMary Jones-1616541Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Samian your a mouron.

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:59 PM EST

Someone needs to tell NBC that Ron Paul is winning with 42%

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?authkey=CKT21ZkH&hl=en_US&key=0AjQBwcCtzwG8dEdGUWZjS1FwTW8wTzVyOEJ6dmg4cHc

  • 20 votes
#1.16 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:09 PM EST

What the headline should say: With so few votes cast and such a thin margin of victory, Romney did not make a convincing showing.

  • 27 votes
#1.17 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST

Romney had 2,190 total votes---in a state with a population of 1.38M?

  • 41 votes
#1.18 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST
Comment author avatarItchy57Restored

If Ron Paul runs as an independent it guarantees that Obama will win. Ron Paul won't have a chance and the votes he gets will be sucked away from the Republican nominee.

Bad Idea

  • 14 votes
#1.19 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:17 PM EST
Comment author avatarFightsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I'm so sick of people being jealous of people with money. Work hard and you might be rich too. And should we hate you if you get rich?

  • 19 votes
#1.20 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:20 PM EST

Nobody noticed that Romney is standing directly underneath a Ron Paul sign? That's a bad omen (cue the theremin)

  • 31 votes
#1.21 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:25 PM EST

It is not that they are jealous (most of the time), its just that they think the wealthy have had all the breaks for the past 30 years. I mean, they were the main beneficiaries from trickle-down economics, have had their tax rates reduced substantially, and have seen their incomes increase by nearly 300%. Tell that to the middle class, which has been largely ignored.

  • 43 votes
#1.22 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:26 PM EST

go ron paul! vote ron paul!

  • 46 votes
#1.23 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:27 PM EST

blah, blah, blah.... At least that's what Obama's trying to make you believe.

  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:28 PM EST

So, taking the results of the caucus he appeared in; either to win anyhow, I smell a rat (think fixed election somehow); or Romney only does well in caucuses he doesn't appear in. Perhaps he should stop all election day appearances, unless his speeches are written out for him, and he has a teleprompter that can guide him in what to say, and more importantly what NOT to say when speaking to a crowd about ready to vote.

But this is the thing, win or lose, come November it won't matter. Romney is the Repub's Obama. Voting for either one would be voting for the same thing; all that's left would be for Romney to bring Obama's staffers into his admin, and perhaps offer Obama a position as well.... Perhaps even as a speech writter, given this one big difference. Romney can't quite master the art of public speaking.....

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:32 PM EST

Fights

I'm so sick of people being jealous of people with money. Work hard and you might be rich too. And should we hate you if you get rich?

Sure. Eisenhower taxed the rich with the top marginal rate of 91%. Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Bush I taxed at a higher rate. The Chinese use "shaming" to control the people and have them celebrate the wealthy. Try selling that "shame" elsewhere.

  • 18 votes
#1.26 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:32 PM EST

If you want more of what you have vote MR. Com'on people MR can't win against KING O and if he does it won't make a difference, America will still crash. The GOP is so freaking stupid! Rearranging the deck chairs? I don't care about anyones money but mine and I damn sure don't care about the color of skin.

  • 13 votes
#1.27 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:33 PM EST

Ron Pauls just getting started.

Only Romney and Ron Paul are on the ballots in all 50 states.

Why is the mainstream media wasting time on Santorum and Grinch, when they are not on all the ballots and can't possibly win?

Probably because once it's only Romney and Ron Paul debating, The media can no longer ignore him, like thier corporate masters wish.

Romney and Obama are both Goldman Sachs whores.

Ron Paul is the only one up there who isn't lying right to your face.

  • 51 votes
#1.28 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:33 PM EST
Comment author avatarJack-808545Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

WOW~~I didn't realize there is so many mis`guided, deranged, insane people who actually believe the things they'er saying! Beast- your one sick inhumane piece of work! To actually try to appear intelligent is a waste, forget it. It's obvious your not anywhere close to recognizing anything as normal or beneficial to the humane race. The rest of you aren't much better.

Get off the Ron Paul rant---it ain't gonna happen. He's as crazy as you all are!!

  • 15 votes
#1.29 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:35 PM EST

can anyone say rigged elec voting machines

  • 15 votes
#1.30 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:37 PM EST

Thinking all these people worked hard to ge their money; or that those with the influence to "buy representation" hasn't used that influence to rig the system in their favor is, arguably a bit niave.... Take a look at someone like Ted Kennedy, who was BORN INTO the fortunes of the Kennedy clan, and has served much of his life in CONGRESS of all things. Since when has he worked hard to earn that silver spoon that has been sticking out of his mouth his entire life. Hell, Congress gets 4 day weekends, can give themselves pay raises at a whim, and can chose to go on a 2 week vacation while the national budget and debt ceiling debates are left hanging.

Lets not even get into the Paris Hilton's and the like, who think it's too harsh getting a 28 day sentence for a repeat DUI charge; when the average Joe who drives drunk even once would get a sentence much more severe then that.... And Jon Corzine, oh yeah, like he gets it the same as the rest of us. People have reason to be bitter; and a lot of it comes to the fact that many of the working poor can be among the hardest working Americans, working 2 or even 3 minimum wage jobs, day in and day out, just to get by; and then they see a Jon Corzine walk off with people's money and not even see a day in jail. Or if they do, it would be the Paris Hilton sort of sentence which is a joke at that.

But then most people don't get the high powered attorney; they plea bargain for something a lot harsher then an OJ Simpson would see for murdering his wife, after getting the sort of attorney he procured to buy his way out of a murder rap... Meanwhile, others can have the legal book thrown at them for a j-walking offence, that comes no where near the crimes of murder, or the sort of high way robbery which took place at MF Financial....

  • 8 votes
#1.31 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:42 PM EST

No, Ron Paul will not drop. What he want's to do is gain influence at the convention by collecting as many delegates as possible. As far as I can find he has never won any state - just straw polls.

  • 6 votes
#1.32 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:50 PM EST

You have as much a chance at winning the lotto.

  • 5 votes
#1.33 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:58 PM EST

Ron Paul is the only candidate that PUTS AMERICA FIRST and than every other country second. Isn't anyone else here disturbed that the Presidential candidates are being bought out by foreign countries like Israel? Isnt it a shame that Newt going, Mitt Romney, and Rick have all accepted bribes from AIPAC which includes more welfare to the state of Israel while Americans are starving, To start a war with Iran which will cost Americans Trillions of dollars and ring in a depression along with American casualties? Do you think Israel gives a damn how many American soldiers may die if we go to war with Iran? do you think Israel cares if we starve while Israel gets fatter, Israel is the worlds 28th richest nation in the world and yet they are able to manipulate future presidential candidates to give more American taxpaying dollars to Israel and to sell out the United States!

RON PAUL THE ONLY AMERICAN FIGHTING FOR AMERICANS!!!!

  • 45 votes
#1.34 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:58 PM EST

Sandtrich: You can tell these Maine republicans are really enthusiastic about these candidates. Looks like the total vote will be less than my voting precinct.

Fact, the republican turnout has been embarrassingly small in all of 'em, with the exception of SC. Course a lot of the South Carolianians go to the polls looking for elicit sex, or at least hoping to "cop a feel" while standing in line.

  • 16 votes
#1.35 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:01 PM EST

can anyone say rigged elec voting machines

LOL, "puppet leaders"! Maine is a caucus state, they didn't use voting machines, fer Pete's sake :)

  • 7 votes
#1.36 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:08 PM EST

BWAHAHAHA!!!! He won by a pathetic margin to a psycho!!!! THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!

  • 10 votes
#1.37 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:18 PM EST

Ron Paul isn't even a Republican! He's a fricking Libertarian!

OK. Enough with the compliments!

  • 9 votes
#1.38 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:35 PM EST

I love how people are bashing Ron Paul by saying he's "crazy" or "psycho"

But why do you think that?

Is that what the mainstream media told you to think? Lols.

If following The Constitution is crazy

Then I'm crazy too.

And you might be suprised how many other people are crazy with me.

But hey, no worries, you go ahead and elect Obamney and Goldman Sachs again.

We'll be at war with Iran in no time!

  • 33 votes
#1.39 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:38 PM EST

The Maine caucuses wisely placed Newt LAST, which is where most of America would place him . . . absolutely LAST.

  • 16 votes
#1.40 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:42 PM EST

That's less than 6,000 votes. Can that be right?

How the heck can a major party primary/caucus only produce 6,000 votes? I know Maine isn't the biggest state, but still...

  • 13 votes
#1.41 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:43 PM EST

Seriously. My county supervisory district does better than that, and it's only eight precincts. 6,000 votes?

  • 12 votes
#1.42 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:46 PM EST

And the Maine GOP went out of its way to make it easy. They've been voting for weeks.

Forget who won and lost. Those numbers are the canary in the coal mine for the national GOP. They have got to do something to create some enthusiasm. To the tune of Mickey Mouse: "B-R-O-K-E-R, don't die with Romney."

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:51 PM EST

It's a good showing for Ron Paul. I think that, deep down, he has the heart of the Republicans, but his problem is electability. Some of his ideas, especially on foreign policy, are unrealistic in the modern world. Allowing anyone that wants to acquire nuclear weapons is not sensible, but his ideas of limited government and liberty are rooted deep in the soul of fiscal and social conservatives.

  • 12 votes
#1.44 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:52 PM EST

Romney will be the next president, only, if Ron paul is not on a national ballot; he will pick up about 19% of the popular vote all at the expense of Romney, Paul 19 %, romney 40% obama 41%. obama wins.; without paul in the race , Romney 53%, obama 41%, other 6%. R%Romney wins.

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:02 PM EST

FYI it doesn't matter who wins the straw poll in the caucuses. In these caucus states the precincts select delegates to send to the county convention. At the county convention they select the delegates to send to the state convention. At the state convention they select delegates to send to the national convention.

If you couldn't followed all that, basically what you need to know is that Ron Paul is stacking the deck at the precinct level. After they do the straw poll the precincts then select delegates to send the county conventions, but many of the supporters for Romney, Santorum and Gingrich are leaving after the straw poll. They aren't sticking around for the delegate selection. The Paul supporter are sticking around. Since Paul will be getting more representation at the county and state conventions he is going to get more delegates then the person that had won the straw poll.

I cannot believe that the major news organizations haven't realized this yet. They are going to have a lot of egg on their face when they have to revise their delegate counts after these caucus states hold their state conventions.

  • 5 votes
#1.46 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:02 PM EST

@ Roy Wilson: You may be on to something. That would explain why both the candidates and elections seem so certifiably dead.

  • 5 votes
#1.47 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:03 PM EST

From the land of Collins and Snow, who both vote primarily with the dems, I'm not sure it's much of an endorsement for Romney. Pauls obviously got the votes of people who don't want the same policies.

  • 7 votes
#1.48 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:13 PM EST

saxon "Romney will be the next president, ... without paul in the race , Romney 53%, obama 41%, other 6%. R%Romney wins."

In the last 2 election cycles, 'other' only got about 2-3% of the vote, but your other estimates are remarkably close to my own election 'model', which shows Obama getting about 42% of the vote, vs 55% for the Republican candidate. The biggest factors are;

1 - A 10.5% net swing to the Republicans in Party Affiliation (90% vote party line).

2 - A return to normal voting patterns for young, inexperienced voters who are disenchanted with the lack of jobs.

3 - A large 19% swing against Obama among Independents (current polls), who are disenchanted with the 'first Black President' experiment.

4 - Possibly a small shift in Hispanic voters who are also disenchanted with Obama's lack of keeping his promises on amnesty. Obama trying to force abortions down the throat of Catholics might hurt him here.

With an estimated $5.4 Trillion in Deficits in his first 4 years, vs only $920 Billion in Bush's first 4 years, I think most voters will conclude that "We can't afford 4 more years of Obama".

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:39 PM EST

Average Joe does not have the capacity to understand what Ron Paul says. And they cannot comprehend the ramifications of electing anyone else. They have always lived as slaves and will continue to do so. Yet they do not know.

  • 15 votes
#1.50 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:45 PM EST

Gratz to both Ron Paul & Mitt Romney for a close battle in a respectful race in Maine.

Nice to see no personal attacks for a change.

Hopefully the rest of the primaries will be less dirty now.

  • 9 votes
#1.51 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:47 PM EST
Comment author avatarMac ForresterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@ Wilson: I had a dream once myself when I was a teenager. Dreamt I was wrestling around with the actress "Jane Russell". Had a real eager boner on. I remember She finally succumbed and I eagerly pulled her panties down those beautiful legs and off her feet. Then as I was attempting to mount her I found She had no vagina. Afraid you and your model are likely in the same fix.

  • 4 votes
#1.52 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:54 PM EST
chester12Deleted

ROY WILSON-336103

" Allowing anyone that wants to acquire nuclear weapons is not sensible..."

Roy, you are talking like an artifact. Wake up, large countries that want the bomb, will get the bomb.

It is not worth it to start a world war in order to prevent a world war.

"Pre-emptive war" is an oxy-moron, sold the the USA by a texan-moron.

  • 17 votes
#1.54 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:29 PM EST

chester12: Maines Municipal caucuses for the democrats begin Feb. 26, and I think, run until March 31st. Regards

  • 3 votes
#1.55 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:32 PM EST

I "bash" Ron Paul because his foren polocies are insane. If we let everyone who wants a nuke, to get a nuke, then it will end up in the hands of terrorists. Who may use it on anyone they please because we wouldn't have the military out there to destroy it.

  • 4 votes
#1.56 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:35 PM EST
chester12Deleted

@trent

Too late, there are nukes floating around all over Pakistan. Their the ones who were hiding Bin Laden, remember?

Bush said North Korea is a terrorist state.

So the terrorists already have nukes.

You are about 20 years too late.

To be clear, eventually EVERY country in the world will have a nuke. It's the plain fact of the matter. An eventuality you cannot avoid.

If we are smart, we will BROKER as much peace as we can before that day comes, because yes, it will come.

  • 7 votes
#1.58 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:00 PM EST

Witchrunner, Collins and Snowe don't vote primarily with dems, the fact is they vote about 65%-70% of the time with Republicans. Considering they come from the Northeast, a traditionally Democratic region, it's not surprising that they don't follow the party line all of the time. They are supposed to represent their constituents, not their party alone.

  • 8 votes
#1.59 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:03 PM EST
chester12Deleted
chester12Deleted
chester12Deleted

I hope not. I won't have any reason to vote if he drops out.

  • 1 vote
#1.63 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:28 PM EST

@ chester12: If you're as sexy as "Jane Russell" was then I might let you.

    #1.64 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:32 PM EST

    jungleboogie

    If we are smart, we will BROKER as much peace as we can before that day comes

    English Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain tried to broker peace in from 1936 - 1939. How well did that work out?

    You will learn a lot if you study history.

    • 2 votes
    #1.65 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:50 PM EST

    DB Akron, do not apply Godwin's Law here. Hitler had intent and means to outright take over England. No country has the means or intent to take over the United States.

    • 5 votes
    #1.66 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:55 PM EST

    shows how inept repubs really are. romney and gingrich ARE crooks!

    • 2 votes
    #1.67 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:40 AM EST

    Uncle Dave from Seattle

    can anyone say rigged elec voting machines

    LOL, "puppet leaders"! Maine is a caucus state, they didn't use voting machines, fer Pete's sake :)

    No, they just stopped counting, closed a few precints, decided to exclude yet to be held precints. No, nothing to see here. Just move along.

    • 2 votes
    #1.68 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST

    RP has a majority of the delegates. There's a little secret to playing this election game... :)

    • 6 votes
    #1.69 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:41 AM EST

    Ron Paul is going to be a write-in for me if neccessary.

    There's not going to be one shred of difference between an Obama or a Romney presidency anyway.

    • 8 votes
    #1.70 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST

    Only 194 votes separated Ron Paul and Robamaney. No one else was close. Now consider that Robamaney and Naughty-Newty are NOT on the ballots in several States and will get NO delegates from them, (unless of course, it is a 'fixed' race). Sanatorium Rick is just like his 'tapped' cohorts, Robamaney and Newty. So now we can easily see where the REAL change is...

    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, MUST be the truth." -- Sherlock Holmes

    If Jesse Ventura could do it, why can't Ron Paul?

    Ron Paul - All the way.

    • 2 votes
    #1.72 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:23 PM EST

    Big Win For Ron Paul in Maine

    With 95% reporting, Ron Paul has over 36% of the vote in Maine right behind first place finisher Mitt Romney, who has barely 39%.

    But when all the votes are counted will Romney still be in first place? Only 194 votes stand between Paul and a first place victory. Washington County is a stronghold for Paul and has yet to report. It might be a week before we know the final outcome there and Washington County is expected to yield 200 votes or more.

    Still, Maine is a state in Romney’s backyard that he should’ve been able to walk away with easily. That Mitt almost lost to Ron tonight–and that Mitt still may lose to Ron in the days to come–does not bode well for the establishment candidate. Romney shouldn’t have had to campaign in Maine and yet circumstances forced him to make a last ditch effort.

    Santorum, riding high on Tuesday, was 20 points behind Paul tonight. Newt Gingrich, who won South Carolina with 41% last month, got only 6% tonight.

    This was not a good night for Mitt Romney. It was a fantastic night for Ron Paul.

    • 4 votes
    #1.73 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:33 PM EST

    ORB-1943, you made the most sensible comment of all! It is time for the professional adulterer to drop out! I personally do NOT want to see his face on the news anymore! Can anyone truly imagine that mannequin of his being first lady of the USA, knowing she slept with a married man who was not her husband, for over six years? Let's hope our nation is not ready to throw all civilized morality to the dogs. But those few who continue to vote for this low-life, corruption-oriented, immoral goon apparently do want to bring our nation down to that level.

    Isn't adultery a crime in the State of Georgia? Has the statue of limitations expired? Why can't a group of people file charges, bring him into court, and let's get this cess-pool varmint OUT of the race!!?

      #1.74 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:28 PM EST

      @!$%# You

      Afraid you and your model are likely in the same fix.

      Mary Jones-1616541, Mac Forrester, you are both suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

      Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

      • 2 votes
      #1.75 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:43 PM EST

      He's as crazy as you all are!!

      Jack-808545, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

      Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

      • 2 votes
      #1.76 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST

      Oh, snap

        #1.77 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:29 PM EST
        Reply

        Hopefully not....I just sent in my GOP mail primary ballot and I voted for RP.

        • 48 votes
        #2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:28 PM EST

        To Pro life

        I am pro choice. I believe all life is precious and abortion is not an option to me. Unfortunately, I have no control or right, to make others conform to my beliefs. Years ago, when I was a young and innocent surgery nurse, I was assigned to a case, where the baby had died, in the uterus. The mother was full term and not able, to deliver the baby naturally. After removing the baby vaginally, I was so stricken with sadness and grief, I cried for days and had a difficult time returning to work.

        And then one night, I was called into surgery, to work on a child who was battered by her parent. This mother could have opted for an abortion or adopted the baby out. Instead, she kept the baby and she was a victim, of such abuse, it made me wonder, how the child could have tolerated such cruelty and torture.

        I am an advocate of birth control and adoption. But those are my wishes. People who participate in abortions, will eventually meet their fate. How can I force someone, to have a child and find out the child was being abused? It is a complicated issue and there is no answer, that does not interfere, in the human rights of others.

        So, I myself, could not and would not, consider abortion but who am I to tell another, what to do with their bodies? Is it not government interfering, with human rights?

        If I were omnipotent, I would allow those who would be responsible parents to have children. God is omnipotent, why do you He allow these horrible things, to happen ?

        What is the right answer?

        • 47 votes
        #2.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:56 PM EST

        You already have the right answer: You follow your own conscience and don't try to make other behave to conform to YOUR expectations. That is why this country is NOT a religious institution. We don't get to dictate our personal moral beliefs to everyone else, no matter how much all the self-described christians would like for that to happen.

        • 47 votes
        #2.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:03 PM EST

        Another wasted vote...

        • 2 votes
        #2.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:07 PM EST

        Judy The Ornery

        Unfortunately, I have no control or right, to make others conform to my beliefs.

        Fortunately you are forbidden for imposing your will over other individual's rights and choices (and so is the government, but few of the dimwits here know that). That why this is country is free (well, in theory anyway). Perhaps, Russia is the place for you--they need more children. Really.

        • 9 votes
        #2.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:35 PM EST

        Lou - you have to have some laws establishing morals or you have anarchy. Where do you think people get the idea that murder, stealing, lying, and what not are wrong! Is there something inherently good in Humans that they figured that such things are wrong?

        That is why we have government write laws. Being a representative democracy, we get to have input by majority as to what our laws are. Forget the Religion part, with or without it, you will still have people who believe that abortion is wrong. Religion is just an easy target to say you don't want to agree about something.

        • 3 votes
        #2.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:54 PM EST

        DB - You're mistaken. Laws are meant to establish ORDER, not morals. You can legislate tangible things like vehicles speeds, tax evasion, murder, etc. You cannot legislate personal codes, thoughts, and motivations. Those things are guides people use to ultimately make decisions of action. It is those actions that fall within the purview of the law. If you want to legislate and perhaps take legal action against people's ethics and morals instead of their actions, then I fear the world you are trying to establish.

        • 26 votes
        #2.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:42 PM EST

        Judy

        If I were omnipotent, I would allow those who would be responsible parents to have children. God is omnipotent, why do you He allow these horrible things, to happen ?

        Awesome question.

        Because the gift of God is the ability to reason and have total freedom of choice to follow and obey him willingly (right) or do whatever you please (wrong).

        It's the same thing as putting your child in a room - if they don't have that time, they will be incessantly dependent on you, when they should be learning to do things themselves. They will never grow, They will never learn right from wrong, and they will never learn to think and act responsibly or for themselves.

        You also are not going to correct your child or punish them unless they do wrong would you? Not only that, but if you stand over them and correct / punish for every offense, the child is going to resent you and rebel even more.

        People think evil thoughts - can God punish them unless they put those evil thoughts into action. Well, would you want to get a ticket for speeding, just because you thought to do so?

        If you have someone that provides all your needs/wants - and you see them give it to you, aren't you going to be grateful to them and if they need something you can do for them won't you do it? If you cannot see them, would you be loyal to them? In seeing them you doing good for you, then don't you lose that freedom to chose because you "owe them"?.

        I wouldn't say "If I were omnipotent" because according to the Bible, Lucifer thought "I will assend unto heaven and put my throne above that of God." he was thrown out of heaven because he gathered 1/3 of heaven and marched on heaven to accomoplish what he thought to do. The temptation of Eve was that by eating the fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil that she would 'become as god".

        We only have so long to figure out that there are higher authorities, and figure out which is the everlasting one. Keep seeking and you will find.

        • 5 votes
        #2.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:01 PM EST

        John - when you establish laws, often you are legislating degree of morality. I error in mensioning not mensioning the order part.

        Not murdering, not stealing, not only create disorder, but they are also considered immoral. The two work hand in hand.

        • 1 vote
        #2.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:07 PM EST

        Why doesn't anyone else realize that you cannot legislate morality? It has to come from one's own personal beliefs. And I think that Judy the Ornery has a real good grasp on it.

        • 15 votes
        #2.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:15 PM EST

        Sorry Judy the Ornery. Either your God is Evil and allows such misery, or he does not exist. I find it easier to believe he does not exist, and the cause of your exestential misery is human.

        • 4 votes
        #2.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:20 PM EST

        And then one night, I was called into surgery, to work on a child who was battered by her parent. This mother could have opted for an abortion or adopted the baby out.

        So what? For all you know, this baby was very much planned and wanted. Turns out the reasons for child abuse have nothing whatsoever to do with planning. The real causes are stress, addiction to drugs/alcohol, mental illness, marital breakup followed by mother dating questionable men, and above all, having been abused herself as a child. With the exception of the last, none of these risk factors is usually predicatable in advance. And all too often, abuse victims have kids thinking it will be a way of somehow undoing the past and thereby healing their pain. Of course this doesn't work, and the child ends up being resented instead.

        • 5 votes
        #2.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:20 PM EST

        "How can I force someone to have a child, knowing that child might be abused?"

        Because you can use the same logic to ban infertility treatment. Infertility patients are sometimes guilty of abusing the child they had so much trouble having, believe it or not. So, if potential abuse is a reason for abortion, then so is banning infertility treatment since ANY child is a potential victim. Of course, we should also ban marriage and even dating since every woman is a potential victim of domestic violence....

        • 1 vote
        #2.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:25 PM EST

        DB - You're mistaken. Laws are meant to establish ORDER, not morals. You can legislate tangible things like vehicles speeds, tax evasion, murder, etc.

        Hmm. Suppose you have a serial rapist who is disrupting life in a suburban area. Everyone in the entire area is really jumpy because of him, and people are starting to carry firearms around with them to protect themselves. A jumpy citizen with a gun could possibly shoot anyone. Now, suppose the rapist is identified by a victim and he is brought in by the cops. Furthermore, suppose there is a DNA match. Would it not contribute to ORDER to kill the rapist rather than letting him post bail and have a trial? Sure maybe you could stop him from posting bail, but what if there's a mistrial? He could still go free. Killing him would stop citizens from carrying guns around and possibly shooting at innocent bystanders, would it not? Why do you suppose we have laws that keep us from killing him if it might keep ORDER better for us to kill him? I say it's because we believe it is wrong to kill a human being without extreme justification (i.e. for reasons leading to the death penalty), or maybe only in self defense (for those who are against the death penalty and even against war). After all, authoritarian countries where the government killed everyone who disagreed with them had a form of order-no law, maybe, but order.

        • 1 vote
        #2.13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:29 PM EST

        Judy The Ornery "God is omnipotent, why do(es) He allow these horrible things to happen ?"

        Good question.

        Opinions, anyone?

        • 2 votes
        #2.14 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:47 PM EST

        The same reason that you cant sheild a child from harm forever. If you do that then that child would never grow to be a better person. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger fits this rather nicely.

        • 2 votes
        #2.15 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:47 PM EST

        Pro-Life is a loaded term, it assumes that opponents are "Pro-Death" or "Anti-Life". In reality, Pro-Choice people are the one's who are truly "Pro-Life", particularly in the case when a woman's life is at stake, and she must choose a difficult decision to save it.

        Anti-Choice is the correct way to describe these people, who are against the idea of women being able to choose what to do with their bodies.

        • 10 votes
        #2.16 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:46 PM EST

        Mr. Anon

        Pro-Choice people are the one's who are truly "Pro-Life",

        Yeah - pro their own life - and not the one started inside them.

        Throughout life, you always have a choice to take care of others or just take care of yourself - Which is a higher ideal?

        Someone once said that "man is desperate to get his own way". To that person any decision in their favor is right and moral and anyone who says different is wrong and immoral.

        • 2 votes
        #2.17 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST

        What a freaking mess the GOP is..one state its this guy then another state its this guy, then three states its this guy..then the guy who won the first state almost lost to a guy who didn't win any yet..all CLOWNS!

        OBAMA 2012!...too easy

        • 11 votes
        #2.18 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:22 AM EST

        DB Akron, your model government, "Being a representative democracy, we get to have input by majority as to what our laws are." is what you do not understand about those who hold a differant perspective about life and their experiance. You see we have failed to represent all people from our inception, therefore we can never have a true majority input to make our laws. Many have been excluded from their governed rights as participants in our country's society, and to ignore them as many in your vain of thought proclaim is what is so abhorant to them. Again we do realise that you will not understand, as those who are there have a strong obligation to their ancestors and representatives. Your impersonal response to a very personal enconter of another shows your lack of understanding, model representative government or not.

        • 5 votes
        #2.19 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:27 AM EST

        To us you might as well say, "If you don't play my way, I'll take my ball and go home". "Trickle down" economics will not work, "Starving the Beast" will not work, and "It's our moral way or the highway" is wrong.

        • 7 votes
        #2.20 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:45 AM EST

        Just thought I'd add this: Sarah Palin is a stupid, disrespectful, unpatriotic biatch! JUst tell this biatch to get lost! I cringe every time they give her air time on TV...

        • 12 votes
        #2.21 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:45 AM EST

        Just thought I'd add this: Sarah Palin is a stupid, disrespectful, unpatriotic biatch! JUst tell this biatch to get lost! I cringe every time they give her air time on TV...

        Libs are so classy!

        • 1 vote
        #2.22 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:36 AM EST

        "Palin can see Russian from Maine"

        Look what Palin's endorsement did for Newt, the kiss of death !

        Palin gets all her support from the Tea-Retards, is that how she got so nutty ?

        • 9 votes
        #2.23 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:40 AM EST

        To the media, heres one for you:

        If the Primary is in a conservative state, OR Independents are not allowed to vote, Romney is FAR less likely to win.

        In more moderate states OR states where independents are allowed to vote, Romney is FAR more likely to win.

        Suddenly, the results of the GOP primaries make perfect sense.

        • 2 votes
        #2.24 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:41 AM EST

        DB Akron, your model government, "Being a representative democracy, we get to have input by majority as to what our laws are." is what you do not understand about those who hold a differant perspective about life and their experiance. You see we have failed to represent all people from our inception, therefore we can never have a true majority input to make our laws. Many have been excluded from their governed rights as participants in our country's society, and to ignore them as many in your vain of thought proclaim is what is so abhorant to them. Again we do realise that you will not understand, as those who are there have a strong obligation to their ancestors and representatives. Your impersonal response to a very personal enconter of another shows your lack of understanding, model representative government or not.

        First and formost, Democracies simply to adopt the laws in such a way as to please the largest majority of the population, which is fine, assuming the majority is always right. [Not Usually].

        Secondly, I doubt 50% of the people here could tell me who their Rep is, what commities they sit on, or even what district they currently reside in [redistricting non-withstanding]. (As for me, Tim Bishop, Committee on Education, the Workforce and Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, NY 1st Congressional District)

          #2.25 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM EST

          DB Akron

          Mr. Anon

          Pro-Choice people are the one's who are truly "Pro-Life",

          Yeah - pro their own life - and not the one started inside them.

          Throughout life, you always have a choice to take care of others or just take care of yourself - Which is a higher ideal?

          Someone once said that "man is desperate to get his own way". To that person any decision in their favor is right and moral and anyone who says different is wrong and immoral.

          The fallacy here is the assumption that a fetus is in fact a human life. A fetus, to a degree, can be argued as not being a human life. An innocent woman is unarguably a human life.

          But in any case, you have just literally said that a woman should be forced to let herself die in favor of a fetus, which is arguably not even a human life.

          I rest my case.

          • 5 votes
          #2.26 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST

          I'm so excited for Romney, I bastardized a song for him. Can you guess the original (shouldn't be hard)...

          Stumping on the streets of St. Louis
          Trying to give the voters his stance
          The folks in the Booth
          Said, "He don't tell the truth"
          You know, they didn't even give him a chance

          Rick Santorum is crazy
          And Newt's on wife Number 3
          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          Finally made the plane into Tampa
          Schmoozing with the rich by the Bay
          David Koch called to say
          "I will make it okay"
          "You'll win Nevada then you'll prolly win Maine"

          Rick Santorum is crazy
          And Newt's on wife Number 3
          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          Drove from Boston on a fam'ly vacation
          The story really started a rift
          The newspeople blogged
          "What did you do with the dog?"
          I said, "we only tried to give him a lift"

          Rick Santorum is crazy
          And Newt's on wife Number 3
          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          Saving all your money for election day,
          putting some in banks far overseas,
          New't wife has now said,
          your chance is stone dead,
          offer nothing when you sell your soul

          Made a lightning trip to Ann Arbor
          Bragging Michigan's in the bag
          The newspapers said
          "Maine's gone to his head
          "He's breaking out the victory flag"

          Rick Santorum is crazy
          And Newt's on wife Number 3
          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          Caught the early plane back to Boston
          Forty States to go - let us pray
          The men from the press
          Said, "we wish you success
          "you never stood a chance anyway"

          Rick Santorum is crazy
          And Newt's on wife Number 3
          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          The way things are going
          They're gonna vote for Romney

          • 3 votes
          #2.27 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST

          The vote was called for Romney prematurely - with less than 100% of voters having been allowed to vote - and still haven't voted to date. The GOP in Maine decided to halt the caucas after less than all areas were allowed to vote with voting to continue on this coming Saturday, because there had been a threat of 'snow', which closed some polls but which didn't really accumulate. Snow - in Maine - in winter - what an astonishment! 2-3 inches were suggested, however only a dusting happened. So, more voting will happen on Saturday, but the GOP in Maine says that although the voting will be allowed to continue it also says the votes will not count. The area whose voting was cancelled was in a district shown to be largely Ron Paul voters. Will the outcome of the voting get reported? Will Ron Paul be shown the actual winner? If Ron Paul voters move him into first place - like a recount of Santorum/Romney votes altered the outcome in Iowa - can it do the same for Paul? But the GOP has already announced it will not apply the votes that have yet to cast - scheduled again for the end of this week. This should be interesting... reporting by MSM will be minimal if not nonexistent. Make a huge stink, Paul supporters. Email Webster@MaineGOP.com.

          • 8 votes
          #2.28 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST

          Harold of the Rock your poem is very well said about the situation among the candidates. Romney is the only one we can choose , he's very smart and successful in business, no matter how the media bias tried to convince voters to go for Santorum will not avail. I'm waiting for the media to ask Santorum for his tax returns. Why he took so long to submit how much he paid and how many assets he posseses.

          • 2 votes
          #2.29 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:13 PM EST

          Mr. Anon - A falicy is calling something not life that has a heartbeat.

            #2.30 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:13 PM EST

            The headline read, "Romney tops Paul in Maine". Teeheeheeeeeee!

            • 1 vote
            #2.31 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:14 PM EST

            DB, the heartbeat you refer too, is completely supported by the mother, she is the perpetuator. It is her choice.

            Glad to see you are off your chrome horse, and standing amongst us all.

            • 2 votes
            #2.32 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:21 PM EST

            Staneve your a retard... Media has been pushing hard for Romney this whole election. No comparison to Ron Paul who they rarely mention.

            • 1 vote
            #2.33 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:52 PM EST

            Alim, Thanks for the info. Send Faux News and Anne Coulter to Maine, this sounds bigger than Two Black Panthers outside a polling place, "our rights, our rights" "reverse discrimination" they will be shouting. Not really as voter registration and primary voting is a explicit right of the State according to the Constitution, except those States under the Federal Governments watch because of the Civil Rights law of 1965.

            • 2 votes
            #2.34 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST

            Maybe we should wait until ALL the votes are counted before declaring a winner. Wait until Washington County has been counted. The GOP powers that be will stop at nothing to rig the nominating process. Ron Paul won Maine. The MSM doesn't want people to know. Ron Paul or none at all!

            • 2 votes
            #2.35 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:35 AM EST
            Reply

            "Mint Raw Money" is going to with the GOP nomination. Wonderful. He's easy to beat. Best gift to Democrats in a long time.

            • 35 votes
            #3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:29 PM EST
            Comment author avatarusa1967Restored

            Bill, don't count your chickens so fast. Obama has nothing to run on, no accomplishments, high unemployment, high gas prices, thru the roof deficit spending, ridiculous health care plan shoved down our throats,etc, etc. One and done for obumbo!!

            • 19 votes
            #3.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:35 PM EST

            nice Fox talking points there USA. We've all heard them many times and they aren't even legitimate anymore. Surprised you didn't bring up the birther issue. The real truth is that you guys have no plan except to try and discredit the president. Time is running out for you and your party.

            • 29 votes
            #3.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:44 PM EST

            Tony, no one has to really "TRY" to discredit this administration. They've spent this country into less that AAA credit for the 1st time in history. ABO 2012

            • 5 votes
            #3.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:46 PM EST

            usa1967,

            Here is what he can run on, in case you need reminding:

            Nailed Osama bin Ladin - That is a BIG bonus.

            Killed 11 times as many terrorists as GW - That is a bonus.

            Health Care Affordability Act - as promised. 70% of the nation want's it. So nobodies "throat" is violated.

            Saving the Auto Industry - as promised.

            Got us out of Iraq - as promised.

            Started the withdrawal from Afghanistan - He didn't promise that, but we'll take it.

            Economy is returning - as promised. Lowest unemployment last month since he took office.

            Women's rights legislation - as promised.

            Removal of DADT - as promised.

            Stopped rendition - as promised.

            Decreased taxes for the middle class - as promised.

            Gas prices fell under his administration - A bonus.

            Did not increase taxes on anyone - He promised that the 1% will pay more, but he did fail on that.

            The only increase in the deficit took place when he put GW's two unfunded wars in the budget, which not only GW didn't do, but GW borrowed China's money to pay for them.

            That is just for starters.

            You're a little short in your memory. Yes, there was a time in this universe BEFORE January 20th 2009. I know it's hard to believe. You can even check it out if you don't believe me.

            • 53 votes
            #3.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:49 PM EST

            They've spent this country into less that AAA credit for the 1st time in history.

            Started by who? I think you got the wrong prez, guy.

            • 20 votes
            #3.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM EST

            You must have been sleeping for the last four years right!

            • 6 votes
            #3.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:53 PM EST

            The way the GOP is acting, Obama will be a sho in.

            • 15 votes
            #3.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM EST

            Bill...you may want to try checking your facts. There are more people unemployed today than there were in 2009, they have just fallen off the books. Employment participation is at a 30 year low. Obamacare is not supported by 70%. Our debt is at an all time high, and Obama also promised to cut deficit spending by 1/2 by this time as well...didn't happen. And while no fan of Bush, he actually started the auto bailout.

            • 8 votes
            #3.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:59 PM EST

            You must have been sleeping for the last four years right!

            Is that a question or a statement? If it's a question, i'll say no, but we as a nation were asleep the previous eight years before that. We watched whilst an over privileged, under educated cowboy got us into two wars and spent us into the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression, all while cutting taxes to help his rich buddies. There's more, but that's good enough for starters.

            • 28 votes
            #3.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:01 PM EST

            Wayne-780911

            You are wrong on the unemployment. IN the statistics of the Department of Labor in the C-3 and the C-6 unemployment, you can easily go see what that means. Employment population is at a 30 year low? Prove it....

            There is no such thing as "Obamacare". So I don't know what YOU are talking about. There is the "Health Care Affordability Act". Yes, more than 70% of the nation want's it. Interestingly 72% want a single payer system. You can look that up too.

            Obama never promised to reduce our deficit by 1/2. If he did, prove it.

            If you want to state facts, try starting by not using the FAUX Boobs euphemistic terms you are copying. Then we can take you seriously.

            Perhaps you have been putting the wrong things in your throat.

            • 27 votes
            #3.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:12 PM EST

            Perhaps you have been putting the wrong things in your throat.

            LMAO!

            • 7 votes
            #3.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:23 PM EST

            FIRST THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS BACK AND FOURTH BICKERING IS THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T INCREASE THE DEFICIT, THE DEBT OR ANYTHING ELSE. IF YOU KNOW HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS, IT IS CONGRESS THAT DID ALL THAT, AND BOTH PARTIES ARE AT FAULT.

            What happened to the Tea Party? They won sweeping victories in 2010 running on the primary message of creating jobs and reducing the debt, yet they haven't done either, in state legislatures, they are running up the debts, in washington their majority of what they are attempting to accomplish is social issues. Yes in 2008, 2009, 70% on the population supported Obamacare, from 1993 - until 2008 the Republicans supported the individual mandate.

            Bill in Mill Creek

            You forgot to add that Obama handled a Natural disaster in the Gulf better than Bush handled a hurricane response.

            Oil production coming from the US is at an all time high

            Stopped a pipeline that was opposed by the state it was going to run trough until they can reroute it away from the aquifer.

            Started and finished a war with lybia with the support of the UN, NATO, and The Arab League, without putting one boot on the ground.

            32 months of private sector job growth, that means more jobs were created by the private sector than were lost, guess his regulations are hurting them.

            • 33 votes
            #3.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:25 PM EST

            I think that the reason Republicans cite so many inaccuracies about President Obama's record is that what they really object to is what they think he MIGHT do. What he has done is moderate and in most cases it has been what was supported by the majority.

            • 21 votes
            #3.13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:27 PM EST

            Joshua1234,

            Thank you for that. I will not forget those accomplishments. VERY good points and quite correct.

            • 22 votes
            #3.14 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:31 PM EST

            To Karen C. .. you really need to do more reading and keep up with what is current. The only reason that many things that could have been done to help the Americans is because of the congress, the republicans in the house and the demo's in the Senate just will not get along. This is where government in our country is failing us as a whole.

            • 10 votes
            #3.15 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:35 PM EST

            Obama has one upped Bush in the spending department. Yeah Bush was a total lunatic for doing what he did, but Obama was elected to reverse course, and instead he kept on going with Bush's lead. I thought grass roots GOPers were pathetic in standing up for Bush for most of his 8 years in office, but many saw the light post 2000 and many more post 2004, setting up Barack's ass kicking of McCain in 2008. Now you folks who rightly called the GOPers of their hypocrisy are guilty of the same thing with regards to "your boy". The guy is nothing more than a multiracial George W Bush and you fawn over him. You folks are just as delusional as the Bush GOPers!!!!!

            • 8 votes
            #3.16 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST

            usa, you REALLY think a vote for Romney would be all that different? Take so-called Obama care for instance; and now look at the sort of health care Mass has had the time Romney was govenor there? Oh, but wait, is he for, or against that type of healthcare, or for it in one election, and against it in another?

            If you want some sense of what this, in reality progressive Republican (based on his own past history) would do, just look at his tenure as Mass govenor, and the state Mass is in today.... In fact, when it comes to the healthcare bill, short of the Court shooting it down due to he personal initiative; I would see a vote for Romney to be as much a gaurentee that it would remain in place, as a vote for Obama... Again, look at healthcare in Mass.... Taxes, erm Taxachuessettes? Again, if we look at the state....

            In truth, in many respects it would be a vote for the same sort of thing, but running under a different ticket, with a different face attached. But as far as a meaningful alternative would go; eh... Well we would get someone instead who is more challenged in matters of public speaking, who would go on a rant about "corporations are people too" and how he loves firing people. And oh yeah, there's the record at Baine Financial, not only the positives, but the negatives as well which Gingrich (who really isn't better himself) chose to bring up....

            But then again, and wrt Romney's/Baine Financial's arguably cut throat business practices; though Obama talks of fairness and having the rules of the game not favor this side or that; he certainly did bring the Timothy Geitners in, and defer to them on an awful lot. Much like, in my view he defered to Palosi on the whole health INSURANCE BILL, which without the bi-partisan input, in my view deprived us of a better bill that might have really dealt with the issues facing health care, beyond insurance questions alone. But then I don't think the lobbyists would want a real honest debate on that one anyhow....

            • 2 votes
            #3.17 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:57 PM EST

            .....FOURTH BICKERING IS THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T INCREASE THE DEFICIT, THE DEBT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

            Ha ha....Ca$h for Clunker$....who was that to the tune of billions??

            • 3 votes
            #3.18 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:02 PM EST

            Bill

            70% of the nation

            if 70% of the nation wants the Democrat's HCL then why to 54% want it appealed? 70% want the system fixed, but 54% didn't want a government takeover. Big difference dude!

            Did not increase taxes on anyone

            Obviously you don't prepare other people income taxes. People over 75,000 single and 150,000 Married filling jointly actually paid more taxes.

            Employment participation is at a 30 year low.

            Obviously Wayne meant employment participation RATE is a 30 year low.

            You gotta give people a break Bill - they will suprise you on how smart they really are.

            • 5 votes
            #3.19 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:08 PM EST

            Tony, no one has to really "TRY" to discredit this administration. They've spent this country into less that AAA credit for the 1st time in history.

            Har, har, har! And what did S&P actually say was the reason? Why that no good T-party controlled Republican house. Go check it our for yourself.

            • 9 votes
            #3.20 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:16 PM EST

            joy, I don't know what point you were trying to make, but, I read quite a lot and stay pretty current. If you were disagreeing with my post, we could discuss it if I knew the nature of your disagreement.

            • 3 votes
            #3.21 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:16 PM EST

            Bill, you're not going try to force Feisty to get a new avatar, are you ? Hope you are on her good side. ;o)

            • 1 vote
            #3.22 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:20 PM EST

            Here is what he can run on, in case you need reminding:

            Nailed Osama bin Ladin - That is a BIG bonus.

            Killed 11 times as many terrorists as GW - yeah but Bush didnt get Libya, Syria, ###

            Health Care Affordability Act - as promised. Against the rights of Americans to choose.

            Saving the Auto Industry - So what? FORD who didnt take bail out money, they ran a business as it should be run.

            Got us out of Iraq - Bush set that timetable

            Started the withdrawal from Afghanistan - We do not trust or get along with them, why stay?

            Economy is returning - as promised. Until they revise the numbers again. take out part time and holidays....Add back in the true number of unemployed Americans instead of those who "fell off the list" we're back at about 16%+.

            Women's rights legislation - as promised. Do tell, what did HE do there.

            Removal of DADT - as promised. Good for him, it was gonna happen anyway.

            Stopped rendition - as promised. But will go after people from other nations without pause. ( megadownload, Assange, Swiss banks.....its a 2 way street.

            Decreased taxes for the middle class - as promised. Oh sure, there all out of work so of course they are paying less taxes.

            Gas prices fell under his administration - Yeah, up and down everyday, kinda like the stock market.

            Did not increase taxes on anyone - True, cant increase the unemployed and cant diss your masters.

            The only increase in the deficit took place when he put GW's two unfunded wars in the budget, which not only GW didn't do, but GW borrowed China's money to pay for them. Where in Gods almighty universe do you live?

            That is just for starters.

            You're a little short in your memory. Yes, there was a time in this universe BEFORE January 20th 2009. I know it's hard to believe. You can even check it out if you don't believe me.

            Yes there was, a time when the American people were prospertous, didn't have Gov't sneaking around trying to run everyones personal affairs. When the government actually tried to protect it's borders, when gun running was something the bad guys did in the 30s. ( three largest gun running countries in the world are: USA, Russia, China) When a person could choose their own doctors, go to the airport with out being grouped or robbed by the TSA. When the government didnt call anyone who disagreed with them "terrorists". Didnt have to even consider 30,000 drones in the air in 8 short years shadowing every citizens move. (how ya gonna pay for that without tax dollars?) Highway check points? Urban police / military excersises? <sp> Cant make his own budget? The ability to walk down the street without fear of being boombarded by radioactive super x-ray machines to see if you have a gun in your car? Thats for starters!

            He WILL abolish the second ammendment if he can, he will continue to strip away the basic rights afford to us under the constitution. He will screw everyone just as often as his handlers tell him to. But, so will Mittens. You reap what you sow, get ready America, What Greece, coming to a neighborhood near you.

            • 6 votes
            #3.23 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:34 PM EST

            You Dems just keep pattin yourselves on the back. If you weren't worried you wouldn't be trying to monopolize this forum with your rhetoric.

            • 5 votes
            #3.24 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:38 PM EST

            Obama never promised to reduce our deficit by 1/2. If he did, prove it.

            Jibjab makes fun of it for starters.

            google jibjab "he's barack Obama"

            and here is an ad on it

            youtube /watch?v=MiGQLL7vHkm

            Thought it was common knowledge he said he would half the defcit

            70% of Americans wanted Healthcare reform, 70% did not want this type or reform or this health care law, there is a huge difference, stop spinning the facts.

            Gas prices have more then doubled since Obama took office, not sure where your getting your numbers or how you do math in your world, but a larger number is more, not less

            Unemployment? higher then 8, was lower then 8 when he took office. Once again, not sure how you do math.

            • 4 votes
            #3.25 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:40 PM EST

            LMAO! Obama supporters are such funny ducks...

            Obama care covers both the HCR and affordable care acts.

            The UN resolution on libya was to enforce a no fly zone, not to provide aerial ground support.

            With all the talk of washington gridlock the more reasonable explanation for job growth from late 2010 moving forward is that the private sector took advantage of no new regs and government interference to start moving forward.

            As for growth in 2010, as stimulas funds ran out for public sector jobs so did the public sector jobs just as public sector jobs continued to decline in 2011.

            32 months? More like 23 months now.

            As for disaster responces, better look up what a states responsibilty is for seeking federal assistance in such cases.

            All time high for oil production just means demand is also growing.

            Yepper, stopped a treaty with canada for border access to have oil sands routed to texas. Let's see, studies were done over three years with a multitude of alternate route studies with eminent approval by obama and company until nebraska had second thoughts. Interesting that obama chose to kick the ball down the road until after the election, and him so interested in jobs.

            Way cool josh that you think the tea party would be the saviors of the economy in just 13 months whereas the democrats haven't done so in 26 months. Heck the left haven't even produced a budget to be approved by obama since when, 2008? 2009? Then in 2011 the right was burdened with having to produce a budget for FY 2011 approximately 3 months after the FY2011 budget was supposed to be approved. Furthermore the house passed their version for a FY2012 budget only to have senator reid table it with no discussion or senate alternative.

            Sorry josh, congress may create legislation, but presidential approval is still required unless the president doesn't do anything. Nor is it inconceivable that a POTUS won't try to influence congressional actions. Obama is just as responsible for any policies congress creates as any past POTUS. The only possible exception could be if congress overroad a presidential veto.

            BTW obamacare was not in existance until 2010, and it still hasn't been fully implimented. Please don't confuse a nations desire to have better healthcare with what obama thoughtlessy ran thru a democratically controlled congress.

            Bill, obama may not have said he would decrease our deficit by 1/2 but he sure has added to our national debt and he sure doesn't seem to care about decreasing our deficits either. BTW- a deficit is not the same as debt.

            With regards to unemployment, you do realize that once UE benefits end that person is no longer considered unemployed, and therefore rolls off the unemployment list. They are just added to the underemployed, stopped looking and given up.

            Karen, yep the midterm election results sure proved what the majority thought.

            MIGHT DO?? Yep America sure has heard a lot of campaign rhetoric since the midterm elections, but very little in written doctrine. At least he did submit his vision for a FY2012 budget and the AJA.

            • 7 votes
            #3.26 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:46 PM EST

            DB Akron and Fed up-853484,

            Wrong, wrong and wrong. Not correct and wrong. No, not true, where did you get your facts? That is not true and wrong. You clearly subscribe to conspiracy lunacy. Obama will NOT take away the 2nd Amendment and there is not A SINGLE statement / document or recording of any kind that even hints that is even a remotest possibility.

            Obama is a Constitutional Professor. This means he knows more about it and it's Amendments that you do.

            Buys, there is a world beyond your plastic bubble. There is more than the extreme wing-nut right you hang with.

            • 13 votes
            #3.27 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:51 PM EST

            Gun ownership is at an all time high in the civilian population of the USA. The gun sellers have had a selling spree due to the fear mongering like that of DB Akron. That said, the ones most susceptible have bought their weapons of choice and now can sit back and listen to DB without rushing out and spending any more money.

            Aw shucks! it would have helped the economy. ROFL

            Obama 2012.

            • 11 votes
            #3.28 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:00 PM EST

            'Professor C' ignores the Constitution. As a professor, he is exercising his executive privilege.

            • 1 vote
            #3.29 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:01 PM EST

            PacemParabellum,

            Imitation is the best form of flattery. I'm good with her. I made a fair and kind request of her to copy it. I love that logo she has. And she's great.

            • 7 votes
            #3.30 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:26 PM EST

            if 70% of the nation wants the Democrat's HCL then why to 54% want it appealed? 70% want the system fixed, but 54% didn't want a government takeover. Big difference dude!

            Big difference, all right, as the Health Care act doesn't involve a "government takeover" at all - the Hospitals, clinics, doctors, nurses, pharmacies, and even insurance companies retain their same ownership, no "takeovers" were involved. As for those wanting it "repealed" (not "appealed", LOL) they're mostly Republicans that oppose anything Obama, even Republican proposals that Obama adopted, and people who believe all the lies spewed by the Newscorp slander machine and the Republican leaders. Funny thing is, when polled on all the parts of "Obamacare", most people support it, but they're opposed to that "horrible Obamacare" because they mistakenly think it's a "government takeover".

            Did not increase taxes on anyone
            Obviously you don't prepare other people income taxes. People over 75,000 single and 150,000 Married filling jointly actually paid more taxes.

            Well, if their income went up, then their taxes went up, too. But the Bush tax cuts are still in effect, and the income tax rates haven't changed, but the Social Security Payroll tax was decreased slightly. If their income and deductibles didn't change, then their Federal income tax didn't change, either.

            I think the biggest mistake Obama made was signing the extension on the Bush tax cuts. Had those tax cuts expired, the rates would have returned to Clinton era levels, the deficits would have been much smaller, and with careful budget cutting and a reviving economy, Obama might have been able to run a surplus the way Clinton did. Yes, the Teapublicans would have screamed about rising tax rates, but guess what - even without a tax increase they're still whining about imaginary "tax increases"

            • 8 votes
            #3.31 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:29 PM EST

            Bill..... ;o) Have you two set your wedding date yet ? Best of luck to both of you. Peace.

            • 4 votes
            #3.32 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:31 PM EST

            BWHAHA! Nope. I'm happily divorced. Staying that way. She's a great commentator though.

            • 4 votes
            #3.33 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:34 PM EST

            CM-6969,

            Well stated.

            • 2 votes
            #3.34 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:37 PM EST

            Bill

            Obama has a juris doctor on Law. That is 4 years of college (any major btw) and three years of Law school. Juris doctor replaced Bachelors of law and Master of law a few years back. It's the same degree every other lawyer must get these days to qualify for taking the bar exam. I.Q. usually required is 130 or greater.

            As for a constitutional lawyer - no one seems to know if he actually worked on any constitutional case. He was an adjunct professor on a class on constitutional law, but no one seems to remember him.

            I can name many of the adjunct professors (mostly the ones I learned the most from) I had in 9 years of College (4 degrees btw).

            Bill you can't even grasp that I told you the sources except the polls Those are from PPP, Gallup, Rasmussen. PPP is the elite democrat poll (one of the finest pollsters btw) I was laughing at someone who called PPP right - leaning the other day - someone else who doesn't want to see the truth I guess. Gallup is long respected as a neutral and accurate poll. Rasmussen is independent, but is favored by the Republicans.

            • 2 votes
            #3.35 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:51 PM EST

            Bill in Mill Creek " Obama's 'accomplishments' - Gas prices fell under his administration".

            Thanks for the laugh. Price of gasoline in December 2008 = $1.61.

            Current price of gasoline in January 2012 = $3.37.

            Most of the rest of his so-called 'accomplishments' are equally faulty.

            Try the truth for a change.


            • 6 votes
            #3.36 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:58 PM EST
            chester12Deleted

            Joshua1234 "What happened to the Tea Party? They won sweeping victories in 2010 running on the primary message of creating jobs and reducing the debt, yet they haven't done either"

            It 'takes 3 to Tango' (House, Senate and President). The Republican House has now passed 27 (link below) bills to improve jobs/growth, but they are 'Stuck in the Senate' where Harry Reid refuses to even allow debate on them, all the while complaining about the 'Do-Nothing Congress', when it's he that is doing nothing - The link is below;

            As for 'reducing the debt', the Republicans tried to hold the line on increasing the debt, but is you recall, Democratic leaders called them 'terrorists' for trying. Again, it takes all three legislative groups to get anything done. Maybe after November, we can get something done about jobs/growth with a new Senate and President.

            Link to jobs/growth bills passed by the Republican House;

            http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

            • 4 votes
            #3.38 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:14 PM EST

            Roy Wilson you're right about gas price in Dec 2008 $1.61, but when Obama took office Jan 20 gas was 1.86. what you fail to point out is the reason. In July 2008 during the last summer of Bush gas prices were $4.11. In Sept 2008 they were in a free fall because the bottom just fell out of the world economy. They continued to fall hitting bottom in Dec. By Jan 2009 it was apparent that the U.S. and other governments were bailing out the banking system and we would not have a total collapse. So the low gas prices in Dec 2008 were a result of the economic collapse brought on by Bush.
            So if you want to give Bush credit for lower gas prices in Dec 2008 do so but also mention that six months earlier July 2008 the gas price was $4.11.

            • 8 votes
            #3.39 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:26 PM EST
            chester12Deleted

            Alright, Roy Wilson. If the GOP really wanted to create jobs, why did they pass up a chance to create 2 million of them while rebuilding roads and not adding a dime to the debt??? If they wanted to cut the deficit, why didn't the GOP accept Obama's $4 trillion BALANCED deal???? If the GOP were so damn smart, why didn't they accept bills that would HELP America??? The GOP may have held the line on debt, but when the Democrats caved in and offered a balanced plan they STILL said no. That is when the fault shifted over to their side, because they refused to compromise.

            Oh and if the GOP wanted to get their "jobs" bills passed, why didn't they at least stop filibustering the Democrats' bills??? Since when is fair for one side to filibuster everything that the other side comes up with and then expects to have their plans passed with no hard feelings???

            Roy, your intelligence is great, but your rationing is terrible. Democrats have consistently compromised on the debt, on the payroll tax cut, on the stimulus, even Obamacare (Obama took out the public option). And the GOP does NOTHING but obstruct. Not anymore. I plead that the American people will come to their senses and vote for the Democrats (and Obama). They are the ONLY adults in the room, and they are the ONLY ones who can help us. You Tea Bagging Obstructionists had their time, and they made things WORSE. Now they must leave.

            OBAMA BIDEN 2012

            SCREW THE FASCIST RIGHT

            DEMOCRATS 2012

            AMERICA 2012

            NO TO OBSTRUCTIONISM FROM THE RIGHT

            • 9 votes
            #3.41 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:29 PM EST
            chester12Deleted

            Chester, You are referring to NO DOC loans they were the cause of the housing bubble and they started when Bush was President not Clinton. No Doc loans came around in 2004 or 05. At that time Republican friend told be that it was crazy and pointed out to me that they were totally depended on the real estate market continuing to go up and even just a leveling off would cause a total collapse. Bush was president and he should have stopped the crazy NO DOC crap but fail to do so because wall street was getting rich but it was just a matter of time...

            • 6 votes
            #3.43 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:05 PM EST

            DB Akron,

            No, you are wrong. At Harverd Law School he's listed at that time he was listed as a Profession in the department of Constitutional Education. Go look it up.

            I'm not quoting any particular polls. But if you want me to, take a good hard look at http://www.fivethirtyeight.org. The only place that does polling correctly. There you will find the fact and that I'm correct. I do not rely upon any medial polls as they are unreliable and do not prescribe to the scientific methodology.

            • 5 votes
            #3.44 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:19 PM EST

            ROY WILSON-336103, Timeoutjake,

            Wow you are SO wrong on those numbers. If you want the correct cost of fuel, try going to the IRS for the allowable deductions on a per-mile basis. There they details out the real cost of fuel and is adjusted several times a year up and down in accordance with the GAO. In December 2008 the allowable deduction was .48 a mile. Go look it up at the IRS.

            In 2008 the cost of "gasoline" was NOT, I repeat, NOT a $1.61. You are siting which source of information? I have receipts that I was paying $4.19 per gallon for diesel. AND that was under the GW administration, a so called "oil man". As of now, I pay $3.99.

            • 9 votes
            #3.45 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:26 PM EST

            ROY WILSON-336103,

            Doesn't mater how many job bills the Republican lawmakers have passed. None of their jobs bills make it past the Senate.

            Since the Republicans took the house, the only bill that passed so far is a 60 day extension on the middle class tax holiday. And we have to do that again this month.

            NOTHING else has made it to the Presidents desk.

            Thad that is what the Republicans get to run on. A big FAT ZERO.

            • 8 votes
            #3.46 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:34 PM EST

            chester12,

            Wow! You are really into conspiracies like no other. Obama order the SEAL Team to try to capture him but if threatened by him, to kill him if they must. He did not order his outright killing. You are a terrible prevaricator. You should not be doing that because you are BAD at it.

            • 7 votes
            #3.47 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:38 PM EST

            american-2051576

            Please check what the C-6 classification of the UE statistics. You will see what I'm talking about that details your arguments.

            • 4 votes
            #3.48 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:43 PM EST

            Politicsforeveryone,

            If you take a look at how GW maintained the UE statistics and how Obama revised it to reflect the reality, you will see why it's lower than it has been since he too office. GW cooked the books by required so in his signing statements.

            Your link fails to work. JibJab are entertainers, hardly a source for any facts. Nice try.

            Even if I was wrong, which so far I'm not, all the other accomplishments still count. I'm sure all you wing-nuts would like to spin how terrible hi is, how he's not an American, how he's a socialist and bla, bla, bla. We've heard it so many times. Fact is, he is doing a good job.

            He will win this election.

            4 more years.

            "Mint Raw Money" will not beat him. We don't care how much money you throw his way. He's a born looser in campaigns just by looking at his history.

            • 7 votes
            #3.49 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:51 PM EST

            The confusion here on the "Health Care Affordability Act" is what people consider "Obamacare". "Obamacare" refers to the passed Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which did not have a public option. The House version of the bill, the Health Care Affordability Act, did contain a public option, which the majority of Americans want.

            • 7 votes
            #3.50 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:51 PM EST

            The "individual mandate" in "Obamacare" is not unconstitutional. (http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/jan/13/einer-elhauge/harvard-law-professor-says-early-congress-mandated/).

            • 5 votes
            #3.51 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:53 PM EST

            Some facts

            No "fiscal Conservative" who ran the promise of balancing the budget ever did so.

            The last president to balance the budget was a "spend and tax" liberal.

            All of Obama's deficits are smaller than the 2009 (Bush) deficit, which was primarily due to the recession. Overall spending has not increased by much, and the main increase in US spending since the Clinton surplus is in military. As seen by (http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/federal_deficit), a Tea Party website, the deficit by the end of Obama's 2nd term is, as a percentage of the GDP, as low as Bush's 2008 deficit. Note that this projection actually has a pessimistic unemployment projection, and does not take into account the huge military spending cuts that are party of the debt ceiling deal. Nor does it take into account letting all Bush Tax Cuts expire should the economy go entirely back on track.

            • 6 votes
            #3.52 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:05 AM EST

            Mr. Anon,

            Except those that FAUX Boobs. If Obama agreed with the force of gravity, FAUX Boobs would get their robots (the Rebulican tools) to object, pass legislation against it and call him an obstructionist, a racist and out to take their guns.

            Noting we say is going to mater. The facts to not change the minds of those that are emotionally invested.

            • 8 votes
            #3.53 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:07 AM EST

            Mr. Anon - the US supreme court has to decide whether the HCL Mandate is constitutional or not - not you or any law professor. The last time I checked the legal profession is pretty split over this one.

            One of the problem with the HCL is that it is regulating pretence that the purchase of Health insurance is interstate. Until now it has not been, but has been an individual purchasing a plan from a company licensed by the state to sell the insurance inside the state. The commerce clause, has always been upheld in the courts as to regulate trade between states ONLY. I.E. it should fail at SCOTUS - but you never know.

            • 1 vote
            #3.54 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:27 AM EST

            DB, why do you pander the illiterate with quotes like this, "He was an adjunct professor on a class on constitutional law, but no one seems to remember him." Will your Rush Limbaugh/Faux News/ commentary subject you to your peers review or are you above them? LOL..............Believe us we are not jealous of your lack of education, just amassed at your lack of objectivity.

            • 5 votes
            #3.55 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:15 AM EST

            DB, the Constitution allows Congress to make laws that are necessary and proper to carry out their duties for the general welfare. While this is broad, the Supreme Court historically defers to Congress on issues of "general welfare". Basically, Congress can pass laws mandating anything they want as long as it supports the general welfare (our recourse is in the voting booth). In the case of health care, I doubt the Supreme Court will overturn the Patient Protection and Affordable
            Care Act since the Supreme Court has upheld all sorts of health care-related mandates, such as the mandate from Congress that hospitals provide emergency health care before sending them to another facility or mandating facilities to service a certain amount of those in need (or cutting off federal funding). If I was a betting man, I would bet that the Supreme Court upholds the law, including the individual mandate.

            • 5 votes
            #3.56 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:28 AM EST

            DB, the Constitution allows Congress to make laws that are necessary and proper to carry out their duties for the general welfare. While this is broad, the Supreme Court historically defers to Congress on issues of "general welfare". Basically, Congress can pass laws mandating anything they want as long as it supports the general welfare (our recourse is in the voting booth). In the case of health care, I doubt the Supreme Court will overturn the Patient Protection and Affordable
            Care Act since the Supreme Court has upheld all sorts of health care-related mandates, such as the mandate from Congress that hospitals provide emergency health care before sending them to another facility or mandating facilities to service a certain amount of those in need (or cutting off federal funding). If I was a betting man, I would bet that the Supreme Court upholds the law, including the individual mandate.

            Thats my reading. I'm expecting a 7-2 decision on this, with Thomas/Schalia in the minority. This is SETTLED LAW, and the court is going to be very hesitent to overturn 250 years of previous rulings.

            I mean heck, if you wanted to read the constitution in a strict manner, then read the powers of Congress. I see Army and Navy covered, but nothing about an Air Force...where are the Strict Constructionists demanding the Air Force be disbanded?

            • 3 votes
            #3.57 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST

            Timeoutjake you can't cherry pick, it was Clinton in favor of having the poor own their own homes and really arm twisted that feature of his administration.

            Funny how the fact that no one every forced a single bank to actually make those loans never seems to come up...

            FYI, this is EXACTLY what people like me went balistic when Freddie Mac was changed to be a quasi-privately run entitiy. Is anyone SHOCKED they decided to pay back the investors, rather then ensure proper and safe financial practices. Go back to the way it was run in the 40's through 60's: As a purly government run entity. No search for profits = lowest possible price for housing, and you wouldn't have had to conditions that led to them almost going belly up.

            • 5 votes
            #3.58 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:55 AM EST

            Mr. Anon - the US supreme court has to decide whether the HCL Mandate is constitutional or not - not you or any law professor. The last time I checked the legal profession is pretty split over this one.

            Whether a legal professor said anything is irrelevant. If the founding fathers passed a law that had the exact same individual mandate, how is it unconstitutional? Are you saying that the writers of the constitution didn't know how to interpret their own bill?

            By the way, you really shouldn't have gone in this direction. If the Supreme Court says something, then it is automatically correct? OK. Abortion is completely legal, organized classroom prayer is rightfully prohibited in schools, and anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutional.

            Check. Your move.

            • 5 votes
            #3.59 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST

            I've always wondered, "Why can't Republicans give Obama credit where credit is due?".

            Notably, killing Bin Laden. At first, there was outright denial. And then Republicans started claiming "it would have been done anyways", and now you see them saying "he shouldn't have killed Bin Laden in the first place".

            Another is Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal. Republicans always choose to ignore it, or say "it should have been done before", even though nearly all Senate Republicans voted against it.

            • 5 votes
            #3.60 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST

            Again conservative DB steps on his own toes. Conservative policy on Health Care reform has stated that opening up health insurance coverage across State lines would make the coverage more affordable as their would be more competition. Yet they claim that doing that would be a infringement on States Rights and individuals, as the Federal government would have explicit regulatory power granted by the Constitution. I see why they are confused...LOL. Also they support Tort Reform, on a national level, again a supposed missuse of Federal authority. Like Cain said " You are comparing apples with oranges", double LOL....................

            • 4 votes
            #3.61 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:40 PM EST

            Mr. Anon, I think I may have the answer to your question. In fact, I have three possible answers.

            The first one entails envy. The GOP have been embarrassed by G.W. Bush and their huge losses in 2006 and 2008 that they are determined to make sure that Obama is a failure and will give him NO credit for anything. Many conservatives argue that the MILITARY killed bin Laden, not Obama. Well, if that is true, than it was the conservatives' beloved military that FAILED in Iraq. Obama ordered the assault and would have been blamed had it been a failure (you conservatives would have been all over it, don't lie). But because it was a success, Obama has been rightfully credited for it, and the GOP are jealous that Obama killed bin Laden in 3 years when Bush couldn't kill him in 8.

            The second answer entails desperation. The GOP is on the brink of existence, as the steroid injection that was the Tea Party that was expected to carry them on to 2010 AND BEYOND wore out after the election. That, and symptoms occurred, including how the Tea Party put America on the brink of insolvency 3 times and sabotaged practically every bill that passed through the Senate with the filibuster. And the fact that practically every Republican in Congress swore an oath to Grover Norquist OVER America (to not raise taxes or end tax cuts, even if it resulted in the bankruptcy of America) hurt tremendously on the GOP's popularity. So now they are desperate to find fault in ANY of Obama's accomplishments in order to save their party from following the fate of the Federalists, the Know-Nothings, and the Dixiecrats.

            The third reason implies that the GOP is controlled by the Tea Party because the Tea Party constitute the largest voting bloc in the party. The Tea Party people are so anti-Obama that they will not recognize any of his accomplishments and refuse to compromise with liberal "socialist" Democrats, even though the Party has moved a bit to the right over the past 30 years. And they have forced the rest of the GOP (and the few remaining moderates) to follow suit, using political persuasion to control their every move. And now the GOP are condemned to a life of anti-Obama-ism. And now they must face the consequences.

            So long, GOP. In pace requiescat (May he rest in peace).

            • 7 votes
            #3.62 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:02 PM EST

            Believe us we are not jealous of your lack of education, just amassed at your lack of objectivity.

            My, my what a sad lot here

            9 years, 4 degrees spread over several opposing fields of study is now lack of education?

            • 1 vote
            #3.63 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:27 PM EST

            DB Akron,

            There is an old saying:

            "Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience."

            The right is not going to listen. They believe what they hear on FAUX BOOBS as the only truth in existence. Than everybody else is misinformed, because that's what they are told. They think "they know better" that "they are enlightened" and that "If you just accept what they say" and drink the same Kool-Aid they drink, we all all be better off.

            Message to conservatives: When your chance comes, please "go towards the light..."

            • 6 votes
            #3.64 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:34 PM EST

            DB, would a intelligent man say this about our President, ""He was an adjunct professor on a class on constitutional law, but no one seems to remember him." Your quote. What else would a ordinary person think of you. With all the hate rhetoric supported by the Conservative/Republican/Tea Party against Pres. Obama, (do I need to supply links, for your educated level)that is all you can say. LOL.............

            No thanks for patting yourself on the back, oh that's right you are carrying us on your back. LOL...............................

            • 2 votes
            #3.65 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:28 PM EST

            Faux News is looking for those who have experience taking comments out of context, you sir should send your resume. L&LOL.................... You can us me for a reference, please reply soon..................

            • 2 votes
            #3.66 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST

            DB supports Rick Santorum. What kind did you expect of him, rational arguments?

            • 3 votes
            #3.67 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:54 PM EST

            Mr. Anon....

            Did Obama piss on dead enemy combatants?

            No.

            Did Obama kill Osama bin Laden?

            No.

            The same logic applies to both situations.

            • 1 vote
            #3.68 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:02 AM EST
            Reply

            Seriously, how are people this dumb? It's like they've been made to believe that an honest politician is not as good as the rats they've been influenced into voting for by this sham we call mass media.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:32 PM EST

            No doubt the media stopped reporting the facts long ago. Now they only report slanted news that favors their opinions or interest. It is easy to tell their slant when they report on candidates looking all professional and stately and his opponent with his mouth wide open and an awkward look on his face...... From that point on, any thing they report is worthless.

            • 6 votes
            #4.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:49 PM EST

            "Mint Raw Money" is a corporation disguised as a person. No way can you sell that to Middle America.

            • 14 votes
            #4.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:58 PM EST
            chester12Deleted

            I get tired of having to uncolapserational comments.

            • 2 votes
            #4.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:07 PM EST
            Reply

            There is starting to be a lot of talk that Romney is an animatronics robot owned by the Obama campaign. Gingrich was their first model, but was too difficult to control. If they could just get Romney to sound like someone other than Al Gore ...

            • 9 votes
            #5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:33 PM EST

            Algore Pelosi and Mittens are all branches of the same Bush.

            • 6 votes
            #5.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:42 PM EST

            He is the top richest 1% that all the countries problems are being blamed on; of course Obama wants him to win; That is why Romney is getting so much financial supports.... Obama's people are funding him so the masses only have one choice during the election..... A socialist or a rich capitalist... I'll vote for anyone other than a socialist, but wish we could get somone in there who had a chance of winning.

            • 2 votes
            #5.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM EST

            ModAmPat

            He is the top richest 1% that all the countries problems are being blamed on; of course Obama wants him to win;

            You guys are too phuny...so Obama was pulled from a food-line?? gud luck w/that

            • 1 vote
            #5.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:03 PM EST

            Chris

            Romney is an animatronics robot owned by the Obama campaign

            NOTTTT! But Obama actually already owns Romney on the HCL - adusted blueprints directly from Massachusetts signed by Governor Mitt.

              #5.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:12 PM EST

              The "Little King" as self-appointed as he may be has got to go....! He thinks he is above the constitution that he says he needs to by-pass the congress because the constitutional way of doing things is too slow! Where does he come off thinking he knows what is best without proper channels? I believe in our American Constitution (slow and absolute) or not it is the light to the world in a free society. Hummmm, George Washington would not even consider being a 'little king' because he knew better and he knew what he and thousands of others fought for us to have....liberty, agency and joy of finding/pursuing happiness...self-responsible Americans had better open their eyes and see what Obama is doing to America. We are not Europe, nor do most of us want to be! Mitt Romney and a good Republican congress is the answer to get America back on track.............

              • 1 vote
              #5.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:31 PM EST

              nc - would you mind sharing some of that great stuff you are smoking?

              • 3 votes
              #5.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:12 PM EST
              chester12Deleted

              "Romney is an animatronics robot" Maybe that explains all the stuttering he does. I find it almost painful to listen to the man speak.

              • 3 votes
              #5.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:06 PM EST

              He has the jerky head movements too. Sometimes I wonder if I need to look closer for the pixels.

              • 3 votes
              #5.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:13 PM EST

              That is why Obama put Hilary on his staff to teach him how to work the presidency to make him part of the 1%ers.

              No, what happened is the Clintons had taken a lot of gifts to Bill's foundation from foreign interests. This was in anticipation of Hilary being elected as president and would be in a position to help their interests in the future. Losing the primaries left Bill and Hillary with campaign debts and "owing" the benefactors favors.

              They appeared to work a deal with Obama that they would give him their support for help retiring their campaign debt and a possible cabinet postion for Hillary. If you can't figure out that Hillaries experience with foreign really wasn't that great, Then you really missed the boat and please Notice - she will not return for a second Obama term.

                #5.10 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:48 AM EST

                DB, debunking a conspiracy is not my forte, so I will leave yours alone to stand on it's own. In your social contact would you consider what you conspire as being socially accepted? Sounds like you don't like people who you believe have money or power over you.

                • 2 votes
                #5.11 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:24 AM EST

                ModAmPat, Obama's people are funding Romney? Too funny. You can (try to) blame Mr. Obama for a lot of things, but now you try to blame President Obama for the sorry state of the Republican nominees? Take responsibility, count your loses and "wish" for 2016.

                • 4 votes
                #5.12 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:42 AM EST

                Bob, you aren't even close!

                  #5.13 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:37 PM EST

                  I'm glad you comprehend.

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.14 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:36 PM EST

                  Now, how would those you hold in esteem fit into your conspiracy plot? I think they would have to be the good guys out to protect all of us, except the Clintons, and don't forget the Pres. Obama.

                  Would you consider examining Pres.Obama's tax return and finance for errors compared to the Mitt's ? Or would you rather make your conspiracy comment more invoved?

                    #5.15 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:47 PM EST

                    Comment # 8 deleted, derail.

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.16 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:47 PM EST
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                    Hamm1Deleted

                    Listening to the GOP "Conservatives" was like eavesdropping in on the Evil Empire convention with all the Sith Lords (Darth Vader, Darth Sidious, Darth Maul...), all giving Republican propaganda speeches. HELP US LUKE; the menacing "Darkside" of politics is getting to be too much!

                    • 16 votes
                    Reply#7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST

                    I would have gone for Larry, Moe and Curly myself.

                      #7.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:17 PM EST
                      chester12Deleted

                      You know, It is Interesting when a post is "collapsed by community" and after researching "the perp" it turns out to be a MittTaxPittance Rommel gopher.

                      C'mon MittTaxPittanceRommel can you or your mules not take the truth???? Check this Original Post Out..right on the button for Rommel

                      Prez O is smart. He doesn't have to seriously campaign; Just let these RepublicanCrimeCartelThugClowns go public with their unacceptably criminal behavior, and Voila!!!!!

                      There they are!!!: All TV'd Up! Like Dracula, Frankenstein and The WolfMan; MittTaxPittance Rommel, THEGangrene and, last BUT NOT in the least, The WolfManVomitorium! YESSSSSS!!!!! First off is DRAC: aka MittTaxPittanceRommel, Who will START A WAR WITH Iran, And A very Profitable War for his RepublicanCrimeCartelCorporateMasters AT THAT!! The Count was "nice enough" to expose his taxes!! Hmmm...Let Me See Now...Drac paid 13% on $42,000,000 income EEEZZZZ MONEY: About 5million AND!!! WE American Taxpayer Victims PAID The Count's REMAINING $7,800,000 Tax Liability!!!! Thanks for SUCKING US Dry Drac!!! AND Aren't We "LittlePeople" Thrilled that The Count is nice enough to Let US have the Honor of Paying His Taxes!! He WILL ALLOW Even, the Poor, Whom HE HAS STATED He "DOES NOT CARE ABOUT" To coughUp his Tax Liability!; 'Long as they got A BloodyJob with deductions Drac can get his FANGS into their BloodMoney as small as it might be!
                      Then There is Frankenstein, err...THEGangrene who, with his department store mannequin "Other Half", will turn to Destructive Rage at the drop of a wrong word or moment!!! EGADZ, This SelfEntitled Creature of Pleasure will Start A War for his RepublicanCorporateMasters AnyWhere, AnyHow, AnyWay, EVEN On The Moon!, as long as there is profit and Franky gets a stipend from it!!! ANYTHING TheGangrene Touches will Putrify and Rot like what is left of OUR AmericanBodyPolitic!!! Watch Franky TRY to Come alive with "lightening" speed at the RepublicanNationalCrimeCartelConvention!!!
                      Now Comes The WolfMan Vomitorium... What Can be said!! Such a Goot'Lookin'Boy! Ooh Facime! What A Face!! how could he do Anything Unsavory!!! BUT When The CORPORATE SYMBOLS rise in his eyes TheVomitorium begins his hungry and Very Hairy Growling for American Taxpayer's Blood!!!!
                      Yes!! THERE is your victim Wolfy!! Go and Savage It WolfMan with BloodLust Fangs and All! Our American UniversalHealthCare System!! All of OUR Allys have it, EVEN the TowelHeads Have A NationalHealthCareSystem!, This Political Beast Savaged and ALSO Struck down OUR Bill for AnAmericanNationalHealthCareSystem!!! Then, when The Killing Is Over, Out Steps The 'A nica'Boy Vomitorium; Ooohh!! How CleanCut!! Yes And so are His savage sever wounds on OUR AmericanHealthCareBill!!!!Brother And Sister American Putting these guys In Power is Having Dracula Guard our BloodBanks!!! You Saw What the Count Did......

                        #7.3 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:36 PM EST
                        Reply

                        So 2000 people out of 1,318,301 Maine residents think Romney is a good choice for president? Thats impressive!!

                        • 23 votes
                        #8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST

                        wow

                        • 5 votes
                        #8.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM EST

                        Did only one town show up for the vote?

                        • 9 votes
                        #8.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                        Doug, its a caucuses, not a primary. I can assure you, Ron Paul probably won this state with the number of delegates he will be taking to the convention. Ron Paul 2012!

                        • 6 votes
                        #8.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:55 PM EST

                        I have no doubt that the GOP is cheating during the caucuses and primaries just as I have no doubt they will cheat during the Presidential election. The GOP is a criminal enterprise completely lacking in ethics, morals, guilt or shame, they are the 21st century version of the mafia.

                        • 12 votes
                        #8.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:10 PM EST

                        Obamie, why do you have that communist symbol as your avatar?

                        • 3 votes
                        #8.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:21 PM EST

                        What is a "communist symbol"? A made in China American flag? This whole manufactured fear you folks have of communism is bordering on hilarious.

                        • 10 votes
                        #8.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:27 PM EST

                        Thats why Romney is keeping his butt up north. He didn't fair well in SC. Go Down to Ala.,MS.,La.,Ark.,Tx. Hit some of those poorer states and see how well he fairs.

                        • 2 votes
                        #8.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST

                        This whole manufactured fear you folks have of communism is bordering on hilarious..

                        Untill one does their taxes these days anyway. Oh wait!!!, you don't pay taxes now do you?

                        • 1 vote
                        #8.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:46 PM EST

                        DougCoe - I don't recall any election where everyone showed up, L or R.

                        In iowa, very few democrats showed up during the january caucuses, yet the caucuses do more than just select a candidate.

                        The bottomline will be who shows up in november.

                          #8.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:57 PM EST

                          Gotta start somewhere....it is a shame on we the people if we don't get out and vote...and hopefully we will vote this little self-appointed King out of the White House. Who does he think he is by by-passing the congress saying the "constitutional-way of doing things is too slow'.....our America is the light to the world because of that 'slow' Constitution. Thanks be to our forefathers who wrote it and followed Divine inspiration in doing so...Go Mitt Romney and all Republican Senators and Representatives!!!! Get America back voters!!!

                          • 2 votes
                          #8.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                          You don't understand Caucus states Doug. Don't feel bad, A lot of people are going to be surprised when all the delegates from the caucus states are counted!

                            #8.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:23 PM EST

                            What is so big about American exceptionalism? I am tired of it. It is trite and arrogant. We may have made a lot of progress, and in my opinion we are the best nation, but we have to stop selling American exceptionalism or we will antagonize all of our allies and neighbors. And America is not the light of the world. Don't be so jingoistic. We are no better than China or Russia. Stop being so boastful and start thinking for others. God would destroy this nation if everyone was so arrogant about their nation. He'd also destroy us for how we invade other nations and do so for pure profit. Stop thinking that America is perfect and that Obama is anti-American. Stop deluding yourself.

                            • 7 votes
                            #8.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:33 PM EST

                            Justoneguy, what do taxes have to do with anything? I have worked everyday since I was 13 when I started my own business called "rent-a-kid", I paid taxes (and prepared them myself) long before you ever did an honest days work.

                            • 2 votes
                            #8.13 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:36 AM EST

                            and without further ado----drum roll please-----presenting the next president of these United States----BARRACK H OBAMA-----thunderous applause-------ya that's how it happened --ya ---ya. ok---- all you republicans can go home now.

                            • 1 vote
                            #8.14 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM EST

                            Wow, Freshieee, hate America much? Why don't you do us real Americans a favor and MOVE, please. Notice I said please!

                              #8.15 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:54 PM EST

                              Fights, for your information I don't hate America. I love this nation as a father would love a son, or how a deeply religious person would love their god. But you have to realize that America isn't the shining city on the hill that everyone thinks it is. At least the government isn't. Check out the past 40 years of American foreign policy. We have invaded nation after nation for no good reason. Iraq, Vietnam, Libya, Afghanistan, the list goes on and on. I find it reprehensible how we claim to be the nation of freedom and liberty when we don't even recognize the rights of some people (gays) and continue to feed money through failed economic policies like supply-side economics and tax cuts for the wealthy. And we continue to think that we are the king of the world and can do anything without consequences. I am tired of people saying how we should "spread democracy" to other nations when we don't even have one here.

                              As you can see, I do not hate America. I just don't like how we arrogantly advertise American exceptionalism without thinking about our own flaws and realizing that we are human. In the words of James Baldwin, I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist upon the right to criticize her perpetually.

                              OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                              A BETTER AMERICA 2012

                              • 2 votes
                              #8.16 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:01 AM EST

                              Oh, and Fights. Don't ever question my love of this nation. If you do, I will destroy you; not with physical violence, but with such a torrent of verbal arguments that will rival the 2004 Tsunami. You may question my political beliefs, my opinions, my perspective on certain events, for that is your right as an American. But don't ever question my love of America. Why is it that when an American criticizes his nation he is branded as un-American???? Doesn't our nation's Constitution allow people like me to critique the land of my birth???

                              And what makes you think I am not an American??? Because I am not a Republican??? Because I do not believe in neoconservatism or conservative beliefs??? Because I am a liberal who dislikes America's foreign policy??? Who are you to say that I am not an American??? You are not God; far from it. And who are you to say that YOU are a "real American??" Do you think accusing your fellow man of treason or infidelity to one's nation makes you an American??? If our nation was like that, then I wouldn't want to live here. I want an America that is FAIR to everyone, gays, the young, minorities, EVERYONE. Even foreign nations. So shut the hell up and go back to the dark cave where you came from you jingoistic un-American patsy!!!!!!!! You and your fellow jingoistic, America-is-above-all, holier-than-thou scum are what's wrong with America. We used to tolerate criticism, dissent, and different beliefs and ideologies. But after 9/11, everyone is supposed to "patriotic" and not supposed to question the government. Well I say that is bulls***. If I ever find you calling me or ANYONE, conservative or liberal, un-American or accusing them of hating this nation I will make sure that you will never be able to comment on this vine EVER. This is not a plead or a favor. This is an order. I don't care if you are a politician, or a soldier, a veteran, or a civil servant, or even a religious official. Stop thinking that you're more patriotic than everyone else and start thinking for yourself. Until you stop drinking the kool-aid of "America is perfect," than I would advice you to stop commenting on this vine. This comment is for people making rational arguments, not name-calling, jingoistic, holier-than-thou bigoted FOOLS who bully those who disagree with them and are NOT real Americans. So leave this vine until you get some COMMON SENSE.

                              THIS IS AN ORDER. CUT THE JINGOISTIC CRAP AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.

                              • 2 votes
                              #8.17 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:20 PM EST

                              DougCoe22201

                              Justoneguy, what do taxes have to do with anything? I have worked everyday since I was 13 when I started my own business called "rent-a-kid...

                              Rent-a kid??!! Bad news dude....the left is on you now with a name like that.

                                #8.18 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:03 PM EST
                                Reply

                                The Maine election was stolen. A local caucus was cancelled because Ron Paul had most of the votes.

                                • 10 votes
                                #9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:35 PM EST

                                Yeah sure!! And the world is going to end in 2012!!

                                Romney has to stick to one simple question ..... how has America or your life gotten better in the last 3 years under Obama?? The answer is easy .... it hasn't got any better??

                                • 6 votes
                                #9.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:39 PM EST

                                Source?

                                • 2 votes
                                #9.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:44 PM EST

                                Mine has dunce. By Obama gettting his Consumer Watchdog Commission formed despite no support from the 11% approval rated right wing cracked teanuts in congress, it is going to control the republican thieves that use computerized trading on Wall Street that manipulate the stock market.

                                Hopefully, these braindead right wing cracked teanuts that are in congress will be voted out, along with John (Town Cryer) Bonehead and Mitch McDumbell.

                                Lyin Willardo, the Mexican Mormon Moron has to talk about how much in taxes he evaded by banking in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland.

                                • 7 votes
                                #9.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM EST

                                Or, I could ask myself, "How has my life gotten better since a republican took a Democrat's surplus, tanked America and the world (like every business venture in which he was involved), and left it for another Democrat to clean up the mess???" Not for the worse, that's for sure. Imagine 4 more years of Bush's republican't rule.....no, I will not imagine that nightmare.

                                Yeah, let's go back to that. No.....we have NOT forgotten. The Right (wrong), "Please give us back the 'reign'-of-control." What, are f'ing stupid?

                                • 11 votes
                                #9.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:52 PM EST

                                Don’t speak in generalities unless you can back your opinion with specifics. Mittens will never, ever be president. The question is whether ‘teapublicans’
                                will realize this and nominate someone else in the primaries or sabotage their
                                own chances by voting for this phony.

                                • 5 votes
                                #9.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:17 PM EST

                                Paul, the sad part is that Mitt is indeed the best of the lot. (now that Huntsman is gone) I'm just glad to see that even the Republicans can see Newt Gingrich for the toad he really is.

                                • 4 votes
                                #9.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:42 PM EST

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                                  #9.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                                  Guess I can't post a link?? Well type it out... https: // docs. google. com/ spreadsheet/ lv?key=0AuO0mBQIbc6cdFltbWdTSnFFOG9va3VvUHVuR3QwTWc&rm=full#gid=1

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #9.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:04 PM EST

                                  Romney has to stick to one simple question ..... how has America or your life gotten better in the last 3 years under Obama?? The answer is easy

                                  The recent prospects have certainly improved over the previous 8 years of the Bush era!

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #9.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:21 PM EST

                                  Paul J. Hurley

                                  Don’t speak in generalities unless you can back your opinion with specifics. Mittens will never, ever be president...

                                  Ummm, that's President Romney to you Paul. ROFL

                                    #9.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:48 PM EST

                                    Ron paul is best. if Ron does get nomination is symbol the our country is doom. personal I want not to be kill when Russians invade around 2017. When Russia invade they kill every one then Chinese will come and kill every one too. Al you guys do not know how bad it is. The whole foundation of America is a fire! wake up ever one we got put out soon. all of our politician corrupt to the core I know very few will change there ways and repent so I get out. if do not believe then research for self and find how bad every thing has gotten that press will not tell you because the press it bought and pay for by evil men.

                                      #9.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:27 PM EST

                                      Mitt's not qualified to be president of a local PTA. I think that I have as much chance as MITT AND I'M NOT EVEN RUNNING!!

                                      yo sparky - did you miss your prozac this morning? WHY would the Chinese invade and kill everyone? They would lose their most valuable CUSTOMER

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #9.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST

                                      Spark, I think you have confused foreign policy with Modern Warfare 2. Neither country would invade us because they would be destroyed (along with us and much of the world). And Ron Paul is crazy. All he wants to do is cut our way out. His policies of ending entitlements, repealing the INCOME TAX (which is one of the biggest sources of revenue for our government), AND cutting $1 trillion in ONE year.

                                      Oh, and to be accurate, in Modern Warfare 2 Russia invades the United States in 2016.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #9.13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:37 PM EST

                                      @ Freshiee#9.13: I don't think Ron Paul is actually crazy. I believe He is just "hallucinogenic". Probably the victim of severe "runs" as a child.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #9.14 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:07 AM EST

                                      I wasn't necessarily saying that he was crazy; more a figure of speech. Nor do I think he is hallucinogenic (well, maybe a little bit). But his ideas are rooted in the 19th century. The man has practically no understanding of modern day politics, economics, etc. I agree with him on a less interventionist policy, and maybe that we need to fix our monetary system (although I am no fan of the gold standard). But that is as far as it goes. I think his domestic policy is ridiculous, his fiscal policy as an example of right wing social engineering and NOT balanced, etc. If he was BALANCED and fair like his supporters claim him to be (increased revenues WITH cuts), maybe I could tolerate him. But no, he has to take the radical right-wing way of things and thinks that the Constitution is as holy as the Bible and ought to be followed word-for-word without ANY evolution of it for modern society. That is why I am not going to vote for Ron Paul and instead vote for Obama.

                                      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #9.15 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                                      Freshieee, I realize you probably do not think before you speak, so please read what you have written, and see if it really makes sense regarding Ron Paul.

                                      It seems that the biggest thing you OBAMA guys really fear, are losing your entitlements.

                                      Monetary policy has,and continues to prove itself wrong no matter who has been in the WHouse. There is no backing of our currency, thanks to Pres Nixon.

                                      As for modern day politics...give me a break! All the government is doing these days is driving a wedge between the citizens, those that think that they deserve entitlements, and those who have to pay for them. Blacks and whites. Muslims and Israelis. Occupying the world with our weaponry, and condemning others who do the same. Don't forget about our everchanging foreign policy. And Ron Paul is crazy?

                                      And who is it that is changing the Constitution a bit at a time? (hint..NDAA2012)?

                                      If you think voting really martters, vote Ron Paul 2012.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #9.16 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:09 PM EST

                                      Skeeter, you have to realise that there is a certainty and trust to our currency. We compare favorable with other world currency, as the Feds have no problem selling it, and the Treasury notes are at a all time high as far as those willing to buy them.

                                      Yes, it will appear to be a ponzie scheme, but our dollars value is not dependent on who owns them or borrows them, more on their value compared to other currency.

                                      Hope this helps.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #9.17 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:03 PM EST

                                      Look, skeeter. I am a guy who opposes a government that divides its citizens. I hate the Military Industrial Complex as much as you do. But you cannot expect America to simply choose a strict libertarian who wants to send America back to the 1850s. In case you haven't noticed, people PAY INTO the entitlement programs and receive them when they are retired. That is how you keep the elderly from becoming beggars. I hate American foreign policy as much as you. But Ron Paul is not gonna do anything. At best, he will be a figurehead. And even if America elects 435 libertarians to Congress, his ideas will still not work. No American is willing to give a guaranteed retirement income that keeps them from becoming impoverished for anything. And if Ron Paul was so egalitarian and liberty-loving as he claims to be, how come he is willing to further the same trickle-down economic policies of tax cuts and deregulation that have trashed our economy??? If he's so smart as you think he is why doesn't he realize that you need TAX INCREASES AND CUTS to fix the debt crisis??? And why does he seem to think that our government is Big Brother, that small government is the only option, and that the Constitution is the Word of God???? Why is his only solution to get government out of the way and give everything to the private sector, even though there is PROOF that it doesn't work???? The Constitution is an EVOLVING document, and we must maintain a flexible interpretation of it.

                                      And yes, I do think before I post. Don't consider me an idiot just because I don't follow your ideals. We don't need far right-wing engineering, even if its coated in liberty-loving words with Ron Paul advertising it!!!!!! We need moderation in our government; and the only person who is moderate is Obama.

                                      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #9.18 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:14 AM EST

                                      Bob,

                                      the fact that the dollar is still in favor does not mean that it is sound. A few countries around the world are now using other currencies and commodities to transact business, Russia/China, Iran/China/India.

                                      Things are changing and while it might not be a gold standard that drives it, Americas lack of concern for how it keeps printing, not only for itself, but for the IMF, World Bank, and other foreign countries, it will come back and bite them, or us.

                                      Freshieee,

                                      I do not think you are an idiot, and I didn't write that because my views are different than yours. Actually, I think that we may get along in our beliefs, after reading your earlier comments.

                                      I was referring to your ,""he has to take the radical right-wing way of things and thinks that the Constitution is as holy as the Bible and ought to be followed word-for-word without ANY evolution of it for modern society"" quote. Given the situation our country is in, it requires immediate attention to fix. I guess that may mean radical to you. It must be done now, not later. This moderate stance, does it mean more of the same, politics as usual, where the citizens lose out to special interest and re-electability?

                                      There are many things that could turn this country around fiscally, those pesky tax issues for instance. It is just not a raise or lower or keep at the same level issue. IT is not about giving the private sector the keys to the city either as you claim.

                                      Unfortunately, one must look up Mr. Pauls actual views on issues, since the "moderators" of those so-called "debates", don't mind cutting him off or not asking questions about his policies, while they don't follow up their questions of the other candidates and make them answer the question.

                                      Hell these days, one must look up all information about anything to truly be informed.

                                      Regarding entitlements, the country is full of them, and some have gotten out of control. Way too many to lost here, but they run from illegal immigration to welfare, medicaid to insurance fraud. I agree that while social security should have been handled better, it is proof that the moderation of govenment cannot take care of it's promises to the people as they should. But taxing more has been their easy answer to eveything.

                                      I am an Independant. I make 15k a year, running a business in this economy, I have health problems and no insurance.(they, 2 companies, refuse to cover anything I mentioned in the application), because I lost money a few years ago, I could not get that stimulus of $300., but my recently dead mother legally got hers. What I'm saying is, this current form of government is killing the country, and seperating those that have and don't have, and then have the gall to blame one side or the other because of the mess we're in. The Constitution AND the Bible don't preach that either.

                                      maryantonette wrote, in response to skeeteril:

                                      I prefer the analogy to the frog that boiled to death with no suffering at all, because the water temp was raised very slowly. That is in fact what is actually happening.

                                      But I rant sometimes, sorry.

                                      Peace and out.

                                        #9.19 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:58 AM EST
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                                        Well it looks like the Scampaign is moving along just fine.

                                        I wonder how many votes got lost this time around?

                                        Looks like Obama for another term J-H-C what a mess.

                                        Later.......

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM EST

                                        You know there was no DEAD voters casting their ballots like they did for Obama though.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #10.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:46 PM EST

                                        Proof?

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #10.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:48 PM EST

                                        Hey. Dave the Dunce is back with his right wing lies or possibly it is what he heard on Fox Lies by Eric Bowleggs or David Asswipes.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #10.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:03 PM EST

                                        Republicans like to talk about voter fraud but there hasn't been any. Republicans are good at solving propblems that don't exist.

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #10.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:04 PM EST

                                        Don worry Dave, they feel more secure when they can bully folks with insults. It's gonna be over in a few months.

                                          #10.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:49 PM EST

                                          GEt the "Little King" out of the White House....He is so anti-American. Where does he think he has the right to by-pass congress and by saying "the constitutional-way is too slow"....what??? Our constitution is the best thing going in the political world. We do NOT want to be like Europe! We ARE AmericaNS!!!! go Mitt Romney and all Republican Senators and Reps....

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #10.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:49 PM EST

                                          That's not true JimS.

                                          The republican Secretary of State in Indiana was just convicted of voter fraud this month.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #10.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:51 PM EST

                                          don't burst his widdle bubble with FACTS!

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #10.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:24 PM EST

                                          Ncrtrue, how is Obama anti-American??? I think you are confusing him with your pals on the right. And hasn't Congress abused the Constitution with the filibuster. Mitt Fat Cat Romney and his Republican cronies can kiss my ass with all their faulty and insane ideas. And Europe isn't that bad. Look at Germany; they have no debt problems and have a great economy. We ought to follow their example and start having the government partner with the private sector to create jobs. American capitalism needs to be revamped, that does not include more tax cuts or deregulation. We need to adapt to the modern world. SCREW THE GOP. SCREW ROMNEY. DAMN ALL YOU CONSERVATIVES!!!!!!! GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!

                                          OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                          DEMOCRATS 2012

                                          DEATH TO THE FASCIST RIGHT 2012

                                          AMERICA 2012

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #10.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:47 PM EST

                                          Dave the doubter #10.1: No dead people voting for republicans. I think you are right. Dead people generally have too much respect for themselves to make such an ass of themselves.

                                          Now, on the other hand, why are many live republican people voting for all these dead reoublican candidates? You guys got yourselves a conundrum there.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #10.10 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:16 AM EST
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                                          #10.11 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST

                                          GOP rigs Maine results for Romney. Both sides know it for what it is. Time for a third party in America.

                                          http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-rigs-maine-romney

                                            #10.12 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST
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                                            The Republicans in Maine, who made a big stink over illegal voters in general elections (they found 1 possible); have held their hand picked caucus results close until after Romneys' visit. Go figure!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:37 PM EST

                                            Mitt Romney is a nice, decent, experienced and competent man, he has the experience and ability we need in a President. Sure, the speeches are funny by Palin, etc. but we need competence. Mention of Jeb Bush is a joke...he can't run because of a) his brother, and b) he is a womanizer...well-known in Floria.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:37 PM EST

                                            The next election is all about the economy and no one is more qualified to deal with the economy than Romney. He gets my vote!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #12.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:40 PM EST

                                            Zooman. You probably won't get the chance to vote for lyin Willardo, once it comes out that he was born in Mexico. There are rumors going around that little lyin Willardo was seen in a stroller with a bottle of Corona Light in his hand.

                                            Porbably a different nutcase will be nominated for the repuke candidate. They should bring back the best of the repukes.

                                            Cain/Sandusky in 2012. Who cares what they have done in the past, they are both against abortion and contraception. They should also get the support of the Pope a Dope and his pedophile rapist catholic priests.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #12.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:08 PM EST

                                            HAMM1 / THE POPE 2012 ! Stephen King as Secretary of State ! Ayuh ! This would be a horror story of a government. Stephen could scare everyone into Peace , or else ! Hamm has a good start. ;o)

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #12.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:40 PM EST

                                            Pacem parabellum#12.3: Wouldn't be at all inappropriate. We're all witnessing, arguing, and discussing the relative protocol and rites of a small, and cheap, republican funeral.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #12.4 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:57 AM EST

                                            Mac, interesting viewpoint. So what you are saying is that the group I mentioned would really be more effective than what the Republicans are offering ? Maybe Stephen could write the obit, eh ? Cheers.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #12.5 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:40 AM EST

                                            The only guy I would choose over Obama is Stephen Colbert. He's the only qualified person to run for president (besides Obama and Jon Huntsman), and he's much more better than the rest of the GOP COMBINED.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #12.6 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST

                                            Agree that Romney seems a decent character and qualified to run for President. And a much better choice than "Family Abandoning" Gingrich, that's for sure!! And probably a much safer choice than "Angry" Santorum too.

                                            In the General, Romney will represent MONEY and corporate america and everything that supports it. This indeed will be a contrast with Obama.

                                            As for me, I'm votin Obama!!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #12.7 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:29 AM EST
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                                            Well at least Maine has some brains among their voters!

                                            • 7 votes
                                            Reply#13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:38 PM EST

                                            Based on what?

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #13.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:17 PM EST

                                            only 4000 of them voted?

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #13.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:25 PM EST
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                                            So we want these conservatives shoving their beliefs down our throats? They are all very sick puppies - and would someone give Sarah Palin voice lessons - every time I hear her whining I get physically sick!!

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#14 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:39 PM EST

                                            MN Cold, have you ever heard of a mute button? I know I use mine whenever Obama is on. It seems like I have to use it everyday now.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #14.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:48 PM EST

                                            @Dave the doubter - when they start sending you as their paid trolls, I know we've got this won. Game over.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #14.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:54 PM EST

                                            Hmmm, I got deleted for mentioning on this forum (at another site) that there are "paid trolls" here. Why you not getting deleted tonybeeerm??

                                            ABO 2012

                                              #14.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:07 PM EST

                                              Why you not getting deleted tonybeeerm??

                                              Because I am Spartacus!!! Are you always this big of a whiner?

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #14.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:19 PM EST

                                              ha ha...u phuny, and usually wrong too tony. Give it up.

                                                #14.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:50 PM EST

                                                Mn Cold

                                                Our Michelle Bachman is just as bad.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #14.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:54 PM EST

                                                mn.....talk about getting things shoved down throats!!! I am sick of having liberals (oh, excuse me I think they like to be called progressives these days) 'shove down my throat their immoral, irresponsible, lack of self-responsibility ideas. American values has been, is and always will be what has made America strong...those being honoring marriage/family, work ethics, being responsible for self/family/neighbors w/o government telling us what to do.... the liberal pc thing is what is truly pathetic! We have got to get this self-appointed "little king" out of the White House. he who says the constitutional-way of doing things is too slow"....who on earth does he think he is???

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #14.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST

                                                well, nc - he THINKS he is PRESIDENT, and guess what... HE REALLY IS

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #14.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:27 PM EST

                                                Nctrue, cut the right-wing BS. We offered good ideas to cut the deficit and create 2 million jobs (and our stimulus package reversed the recession). But your pals on the right screwed us up and said no. And Obama was elected by the PEOPLE, and he will be re-elected. Sorry to burst your bubble with a fact, but that is what is gonna happen. And I hope your precious GOP will willingly destroy itself for the good of the nation.

                                                OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                ANYBODY BUT REPUBLICANS 2012

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #14.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:55 PM EST

                                                @ tonybeerm#14.2: Poor Dave isn't a paid troll. Well, maybe He thinks He is. Bet you, after tonight, the republicans will stop payment on his check if He really is. I tend to think, from his posts, He's likely drunk.

                                                Same with "Chester 12. Nothing worse than a pack of frustrated drunks trying to justify their conditions and psitions. Regards

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #14.10 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:14 AM EST
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                                                The Republican primary slugfest is as jumbled today as it has been the entire year. Mitt Romney has only proven that he can win states where he is either a virtual resident or else has dropped millions of dollars in blistering attack ads on his chief rivals. Romney has the money to outlast a Santorum or a Gingrich, but he does not even come close to amassing the enthusiasm needed for a true victory or to guarantee a win over a bruised and generally vulnerable President Obama. The GOP is in tatters. http://www.sunstateactivist.org

                                                • 3 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:39 PM EST

                                                As a Ron Paul fan this is quite disappointing.

                                                I predict Mitt will get the Republican nomination. No matter who is picked for Republican candidate, Obama will win this election. Four more years? Someone give me four more beers.

                                                • 11 votes
                                                Reply#16 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:40 PM EST

                                                You will NEED a lot more then four (4) more beers if Obama gets back in, But of course welfare does not pay for your beer so where are you going to get the money for it?

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #16.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 PM EST

                                                Where will I get the money for the beer? I guess I'll have to work this week.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #16.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:56 PM EST

                                                Four more beers in celebration of a scandal-free, corruption-free, cronyism-free administration!

                                                Cheers!!

                                                • 7 votes
                                                #16.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:19 PM EST

                                                Solyndra anyone??

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #16.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:51 PM EST

                                                Oh yeah, justoneguy. Keep on deluding yourself by thinking that Obama is terrible EVEN while the economy is improving under his watch. Maybe if your cronies on the right would start cooperating the recovery would take off.

                                                Four more beers for President Obama and a Democratic Congress!!!! Cheers, dudogger. And Feisty, in return for your popcorn, I offer you some beer.

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #16.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:58 PM EST

                                                Umm, and YOUR take on Solyndra Freshieee....?? lol

                                                  #16.6 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:51 PM EST
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                                                  Comment author avatarDamn Paynevia Facebook

                                                  Ron Paul or Nothing Changes

                                                  • 20 votes
                                                  #17 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:40 PM EST

                                                  Ron Paul is an egocentric, delushional, old man with the onset of dimenshia!! Oh yeah ... he's a great choice!!

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  #17.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:43 PM EST

                                                  Ron Paul is 10 time better then any other candidate.

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  #17.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:47 PM EST

                                                  'than'

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #17.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:20 PM EST

                                                  Dman .. first you have a mental inability to spell correctly. Ron Paul is right on target with what Americans need at this time. And above all else he won't be bought by Corporate America.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  #17.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                                                  When Democrooks can't fault the convictions of a man, they always result to character assassination. However, character is a subject about which they know little, if anything. So they always miss their target.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #17.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST

                                                  No doubt, Ron Paul may be the man. But more importantaly, Obama ISN'T. Romney to start, the work away from the 2 party system.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #17.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:08 PM EST

                                                  Agreed. Ron Paul is the only consistent voice in politics in the past 30 years. Also, yes, he is what America needs right now, and for a good many years to come - big government out of our lives. Two predictions: 1) Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate currently who could win a popular election against Obama - specifically because he is so different: consistent, honest, with a clear idea of what America ought to be; a strict Constitutionalist (even if you don't agree with his interpretation, you respect him for holding true to it!). 2) The Republican Caucas AND the Democratic Caucas will NEVER let him even have the chance in a national election because he stands to topple the system of control that they have labored so long to create.

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  #17.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:15 PM EST

                                                  When Democrooks can't fault the convictions of a man, they always result to character assassination.

                                                  Heh, heh, heh, now THAT is funny! No one is better at savaging other Republicans than Mitt Romney unless it is possibly Newt Gingrich! Oh the irony...

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #17.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:30 PM EST

                                                  Wasn't there a movie about Mitt Romney? "Willard" I think it was called.

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #17.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:32 PM EST

                                                  Ron Paul is consistent. Consistently crazy.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #17.10 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:36 PM EST

                                                  Ron Paul will be the nominee.

                                                  Ron Paul will be elected.

                                                  Ron Paul will cure cancer. Ron Paul will turn the redskins into a football team.

                                                  Ron Paul will make your whites whiter and your brights brighter.

                                                  Ron Paul will ...

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #17.11 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:59 PM EST

                                                  ron paul would have been a good candidate in 1812..now, not so good

                                                  the whites whiter is apt, though...

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  #17.12 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:29 PM EST

                                                  willard was a movie about a rat...er mitt...er RAT...er MITT (this discussion could take all night)

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #17.13 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:31 PM EST

                                                  Ron Paul is no better than Bush. His ideas are terrible: cut taxes in a DEBT CRISIS is insane. Eliminating entitlements will hurt seniors and cutting so much money in one year would DESTROY the fragile recovery. NO TO RON PAUL.

                                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #17.14 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:04 PM EST

                                                  @tag-2907728: Yes, and Katherine Hiegl really has the hots for you.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #17.15 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:28 AM EST

                                                  America doesn't need a racist in the White House. NO RON PAUL! His idea of freedom is anybody and everybody can and should discriminate against anybody else against whom they choose to discriminate. His understanding of constitutional rights and constitutional law are scary. He does not believe constitutional rights are protections from governmental intrusion but rather swords to be used by the bigots in the majority to keep down the minorities. In his mistaken belief system they are not a shield but a sword used to oppress others instead of protections to keep tyrants at bay. They are not swords to be used as one's hatred and bigotry dictates to strike down the minorities.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #17.16 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:22 PM EST

                                                  I appreciate you all sharing your concerns regarding Ron Paul. Certainly, he is older, and his ideas are more radical than those of contemporary politicians.

                                                  A few things: The racist smears on his character were made regarding a publication that was produced over 20 years ago by a ghost writer for a publication that bore Ron Paul's name. He openly admits that it was published, that he did not proof read the content before it was published, and if he had known, he would not have allowed the document to say such things; the racist remarks do not reflect his personal views. He probably should have proof read the document, but he was busy, working as a physician, delivering babies.

                                                  His Constitutional interpretation comes from actually reading the document (a novel concept, I know) and his attempt to determine what the original founding fathers intended for the nation. One radical concept is that the founding fathers did not intend to have a personal income tax. Another is that while they valued the idea of a strong central government to protect the nation from outside threats, they believed strongly in states rights to determine how the citizens ought to conduct their lives. One thing Ron Paul is very careful to say is not his personal beliefs - only whether the Constitution gives congress the power to legislate on specific issues. Frankly, Congress has interpreted their mandate to progressively grow and invade almost every aspect of American life thru the commerce clause. Ron Paul simply says "No." This isn't what we we're supposed to do. The US Federal Government is too f-ing big; it was never meant to be like this. Cut Taxes - yes, radically. Cut services - yes, radically. Cut entitlements - Yes, radically. Grossly cut back on Government spending, Radically shrink the bloat of the Federal Bureaucracy. These changes would take the Federal government out of its paternalistic role and return the responsibility of running a fair and civil life to the people. Now, if you're scared, this is probably what really scares you.

                                                  I personally would like to see what that United States would look like. It's not about swords or shields, it's about the choice to live your life how you see fit, it's about taking back the power that the federal government has progressively taken from us over the course of decades, and yes, it's about each and every American shouldering the personal responsibility of freedom and liberty. Freedom is not free. We have to fight for it; even now, we still have to fight to protect it.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #17.17 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM EST
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                                                  Less than 6000 votes cast. It tells you something about the interest in these right wing thieves, liars, tax evaders and criminal lobbyists. The only one that is honest is Ron (Puke) Paul, but he is a total crackpot that should start looking for a good nursing home and call it a day.

                                                  I can't wait for Nut Gingerhgead to sart sweeping the redneck sates in the deep south, where his backers, the abortion clinic bombers, abortion doctor killers, federal building bombres, Baptists that protest at dead soldiers funerals and the true center of the southern tradicals, the right wing anthrax spreaders.

                                                  Then lyin Willardo will have to spend more money to try to bring him down again.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#18 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                                                  I love how you are willing to let the gov. control every aspect of your life. You folks on this board are amazing. The one candidate that offers peace and prosperity, and you people make fun of him. I guess you would hate to lose those juicy dividends from your "illegal war" machine stocks.

                                                  May the chains of enslavement rest lightly upon your feet. Good luck to all of you!

                                                  • 9 votes
                                                  #18.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:21 PM EST

                                                  Technically, Ron Paul does not offer prosperity. Since when is sending the nation back to the 1830s going to fix our problems?? We need a strong (but not dictatorial) government to run this large nation. And Ron Paul's only solution to our problems is cut cut cut. THAT is what got us into this mess. America is not going back to the days of trickle-down economics and "government is your enemy" attitude. All Ron Paul would do is destroy America. The GOP is doomed; let it die. Down with the fascist right!! Long live America!!!

                                                  Oh, and NO to less taxes. If he was willing to allow the Bush tax cuts expire eventually then I would consider supporting him but he is nothing but a cut-cut-cut small government radical of the right wing and too extremist and old-fashioned to be president.

                                                  And by the way, the Constitution is an EVOLVING document that should not be taken word for word. We must have a flexible interpretation so we can adapt to modern society without compromising the Constitution's integrity.

                                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                  DEMOCRATS 2012

                                                  DEATH TO THE FASCIST GOP 2012

                                                  AMERICA 2012

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #18.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:11 PM EST

                                                  Freshhieee,

                                                  "Cuts are what got us into this mess" Oh thats rich! LMAO We have a spending/waste problem, not a cutting problem.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #18.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:38 PM EST

                                                  Freshieee

                                                  Thanks for hiding the reply box!

                                                  government is your enemy, DA. Ask Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, and that scumbag Kiss-injure. You folks actually thing that the gov is going to help you? That's rich. Fools!

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #18.4 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:18 AM EST

                                                  Yes, commander. Cuts are what got us into this mess. Not spending cuts (although neglect to infrastructure and education did hurt us in the long run), but tax cuts and regulation cuts. We thought we could wage two wars without raising taxes (in fact we CUT taxes); we thought that we could find our way out of economic woes by simply cutting taxes and regulations; we thought that we could do all of that without any consequences. Well how did that work out??? $15 trillion in debt thanks to stupid tax cuts, deregulation that destroyed our economy, out of control spending in the WRONG areas (Medicare Part D, bloated defense budgets, wars). And we don't just have a spending problem. We have revenue problem. Revenues are 15% of GDP, less than the normal 18%. And the deficit is TOO big to reduce without tax increases. Like it or not, taxes have to be increased. Unless you want America to fall....

                                                  And antiretardican, government is not always our enemy. Nor is it always our friend. Was George Washington our enemy just because he was part of the government. Were Abe Lincoln, FDR, JFK, or Eisenhower bad because they were part of government??? What a stupid remark!!!! And FYI, your examples were extremists. Hitler, Mao, and Stalin were political radicals who terrorized their people. Did you know that government can be good, instead of always evil??? Drop the right-wing kool-aid and get a life. Nice right-wing talking points. Too bad they suck.

                                                  OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                  GOVERNMENT CAN BE GOOD

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #18.5 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST

                                                  Are you so shallow that you only see his age and not the freedom and integrity that he represents? The older the wiser. Your Hollywood shallowness is a large part of what's wrong in this country and others like you who are being misled by theatrics.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #18.6 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST

                                                  Evertything you say about one party, same for the other party.

                                                    #18.7 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:07 PM EST
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                                                    One other thing is thatMtii showed his "chops" in the last debate...he went after his opponents, especially Newt. He was terrific...too bad so many people listen to the left-leaning talking heads instead of listening to Mitt. They have an interest in keeping Obama in the WH. If anyone but Mitt is the candidate, I will vote for Obama. We need a steady hand, not some fiery extremist.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    Reply#19 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                                                    I'm just curious - when has Mitt ever shown a 'steady hand'?

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #19.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:43 PM EST

                                                    Another clueless voter who has no ideological identity.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #19.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:21 PM EST

                                                    Jennifer - It is not exactly hard to beat Gingrich and Santorum in debates. If you really believe this will be any type of indicator as to how well he will do face-to-face with Obama, you need to get in touch with reality.

                                                    I'll tell you now, if Obama can beat the Clintons, he will wipe the floor with Mitt. And I have listened to Mitt...a lot. I am still waiting for a truthful statement to come out of his mouth. Or anything that has any substance to it. 'Obama is Un-American," "Obama has apologized for America," etc., etc. Nonsense...and Romney knows it. His smug, superior persona is not going to work against Obama. And if he tries condescending to him in a debate, it will get ugly. It's going to be fun watching him try to back up his flip-flops and lies while Obama is surgically tearing him to pieces. All this red meat for the hardcore conservatives won't work when he moves onto the general and clumsily tries to go back to the center. That will please his supposed "hardcore" conservative supporters no end! Let's remember that no one (outside his family and Wall Street) actually likes him. And he has been running for Pres. for the last six years. The Obama campaign is just sitting back watching how deep a strategic corner Romney is placing himself in. He probably believes he has Obama on the back foot. Laughable.

                                                    If the economy is dire straits (and looking that way), Romney has a chance. If not, he has none.

                                                    Look, Obama has not been the greatest President. However, if you would stop listening just to the right-wing press and look at what he has achieved (the whole picture and in the context as to where the country was when he took over in January 2009), you would probably give him a little bit more respect. I know the consensus (on the right wing) is that Obama is some type of idiot who has lucked his way through life and into the WH. However, only a true idiot really believes this. I guarantee all this big talk from Romney is covering up the fact that he knows Obama could easily make him look silly. Even McCain had a dossier on him. It is available on the internet. Lots more material has been added since 2008.

                                                    I know many are dying to have a GOP President in the WH, but Romney is not the one. Excellent businessman, terrible politician. Weak, weak, weak...

                                                    • 7 votes
                                                    #19.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:21 PM EST

                                                    C'mon now! What has this guy really acheived? Nothing of substance. All he can really say is that he bagged bin Laden, and the military are the ones thatreally did that, and even that was quasi lame. The big bad terrorist mastermind in some crappy two story building in Pakistan, with one wife a son and a few bodyguards. Not the big ass mastermind of 9/11 with at least a company of men guarding him. The whole thing has me wondering if those truther folks at least have some of it right.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #19.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:41 PM EST

                                                    Personally, I would LOVE to see a series of debates between President Obama and Speaker Gingrich. The right would be reminded that Obama really isn't stupid, and the left would be reminded that Gingrich is a serious force with which to be reckoned. Sadly, we aren't gonna get to see anything like that. It's gonna be Obama and Romney... and when you separate the partisan fluff, there's really not too much of a difference between the two of them.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #19.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:46 PM EST

                                                    I'll tell you now, if Obama can beat the Clintons, he will wipe the floor with Mitt.

                                                    Obama didn't beat "the Clintons", he beat Hillary. A lot of people mistrusted her because she has reinvented herself too many times, but a lot of those same people wish they'd voted for her now.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #19.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:34 PM EST

                                                    Well Mitt Romney has shown a steady hand in his marriage and family, in his free to choose faith, in his business ventures and saved the Olympics....those are just starters of a man who along with other good Republicans in the Congress, get American back to her rightful standing in the world. Obama's 'steady hand' has torn her down......He, in my opinion, is about as anti-American as one can get. He says the 'constitional-way of doing things is too slow". What!!? who does this man think he is? "Little King"? He has got go go!

                                                      #19.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:09 PM EST

                                                      Nctrue, stop spouting right-wing BS. He is just the same old Republican: cut spending, cut government, cut taxes for the wealthy. Only Obama has common sense.

                                                      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                      • 5 votes
                                                      #19.8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:18 PM EST

                                                      @ Tom #19.1: Actually, when it comes to stealing Mitt has shown hinself to be quite unerring. Regards

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                                                      #19.9 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:36 AM EST
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                                                      So did Romney win or lose? I can't tell with confilcting stories posted by MSN. I guess this way they can't be wrong or right.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#20 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                                                      If you win a statewide contest for national office representation, but with less than 5500 votes cast total, is that REALLY anything to brag about?

                                                      • 6 votes
                                                      Reply#21 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                                                      It will be for Mitt...

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                                                      #21.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:26 PM EST
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                                                      paul can still win with write-in votes googal write-in votesand see how many were elected ......be ther on voting day202

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#22 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST

                                                      Cool story bro

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #22.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:45 PM EST

                                                      I am going to send my write in vote tomorrow. It will be for Jerry Sandusky. He exhibits all of the values of the repuke candidates all in one package. He lies, abuses children like the backers of the repukes, the radical pedophile catholic priests and he wants no government, like Ron (Puke) Paul. He wants complete liberty to determine who he rapes.

                                                      • 5 votes
                                                      #22.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST

                                                      Hamm, I like your comments, but could you please lay off the pedophile Catholic priests thing??? I mean, it is just a little offensive, especially to Catholics like me. I know that those priests are perverted pedophiles, but try laying off that stuff so people won't think that you are a biased bigot.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #22.3 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:13 PM EST
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                                                      39% in NH and 39% in ME for a governor from MA is not enoughto pop the champagne yet.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      Reply#23 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:42 PM EST

                                                      This is actually a disaster for Romney. 3 POINTS? He beats a nut like Paul by 3 POINTS, in his own back yard???

                                                      This does not bode well for the Severely Conservative flipflopper who would be King!

                                                      • 13 votes
                                                      Reply#24 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:42 PM EST

                                                      Sorry, who are you calling 'king'? the guy in the White House right now thinks that is what he is.....self-appointed at that. He says the 'constitutional way of doing things is too slow." What? Who on earth does he think he is? Mitt Romney has the moral character as shown by his marriage and family, the business know-how as shown by his success, and his ability to pull-things together inspite of the down sides, shown by what he did for the Olympics! These are just obvious things! this flip-flopper word is interesting....name me anybody in the world who has not changed their mind???? You need to open your eyes a little wider....Go Mitt and all conservative Republicans in Congress get America back on track...we are NOT Europe, not do we want to be!! If somebody wants Europe, go there...;-)

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #24.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:16 PM EST

                                                      Okay, nctrueblue. You think your so smart; Romney is a joke. The guy may have had success in the private sector, but that doesn't make him a good leader. His tax plan will give hundreds of thousands of dollars to millionaires but will RAISE taxes on Americans making less than $40,000. The man is a lying hypocrite. He claims to be for the middle class and poor, yet wants to pull the rug out from under him by cutting billions from safety nets and Medicare (and the vouchers will not be indexed for health care inflation but consumer inflation, which increases far more slowly than healthcare costs) while giving the fat cats more wealth. Typical Republicans. Damn them all.

                                                      OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                      NO TO REPUBLICANS 2012

                                                      DEMOCRATS 2012

                                                      AMERICA 2012

                                                      • 7 votes
                                                      #24.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:26 PM EST

                                                      *nctrue Sean Hannity is that you??

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                                                      #24.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:29 PM EST

                                                      nctrueblue is right. If a community organizer can do such "great things" for America... gee, WHAT DO YOU THINK ROMNEY CAN DO!!! Wise up!!! NUF SAID.

                                                        #24.4 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:48 AM EST

                                                        Okay Freshiee...I am no fan of Romney, but where did you pull all of these figures from your hat. I thought Obama would have been a better President than Bush. Just this past year he spent $4.2Trillion and wracked up more debt in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. I am not pleased with his Obamacare deal and he spent a year and a half focusing on that, not Americans economic plight. He has gone against the Congress and the constitution through numerous executive orders. Yes Congress is a do nothing Congress. But Obama had his chance with 2 years of a Democratic Congress, who spent us into oblivion and instituted more government and social programs than any time over an entire 20 year period. Again not focusing on Americans. My vote will go to a Ron Paul or any Independent who may surface

                                                        No Democrat 2012

                                                        No Republican 2012

                                                        Vote out every incumbent!

                                                          #24.5 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:55 AM EST

                                                          Check Romney's tax plan: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/06/10010062-wealthy-would-benefit-most-from-romney-plan?threadId=3313426&commentId=61335691#c61335691

                                                          Oh and the reason why Obama spent $4.2 trillion is because of the recession. You cannot cut spending or raise taxes or try to focus on the budget shortfall while the economy is collapsing, so Obama did the right thing by passing the stimulus (saved million of jobs and reversed recession). You try cutting the budget during a global recession (tried that in 1937; look up Recession of 1937). Obamacare may sound bad, but why don't we give it a try??? I mean, we gave trickle-down economics and deregulation a chance for 30 years, and look where we are now. Give Obamacare a chance. I mean, doesn't Congress have the right to pass laws that protect the general welfare of the American people??? And isn't requiring people to have health insurance protecting people from paying higher premiums thanks to so-called freeloaders??? Yes, Obama had his chance with the Democrats. And he did a lot of good stuff: the stimulus package, bailing out the auto industry (continued and expanded from Bush's policy), repealing DADT (unconstitutional), the surge in Afghanistan, Healthcare Reform (although the results are yet to be seen, it is projected to shave off billions from future deficits and expand coverage to millions), to name a few. He passed numerous smaller bills that helped us, and laid the ground work for holding Wall Street accountable for the mess we have now. And Obama has done what he was supposed to do: get the government into the economy to spur growth. We did that in the Great Depression, and we eventually got out of it (also thanks to massive spending in World War II. And don't government and social programs focus on helping Americans??? He cut taxes for 95% of middle class families, extended the right's beloved Bush tax cuts, and did all he could to sustain growth. And we have had a conservative government for over the past 20 years (Clinton was a moderate and had to bend to a Republican Congress in 1996 and on); no wonder Obama has created more government and social programs. Cut the man some slack. Recessions cost money, and trying to be austere will destroy nations. This guy is not the best president, but he got us out of the recession and helped us in our hour of need. Cut him some slack. And executive orders ARE NOT unconstitutional. Name me one unconstitutional act he passed besides the NDAA (which he opposed with a signed statement) and the Patriot Act (a big mistake, in my opinion). And don't even think about including the healthcare reform act because they are still debating it. Come on, bob, play the man. Don't pander to the right, for they will be the end of America.

                                                          Oh, and Romney supports the Ryan budget, which will privatize Medicare and will leave seniors to the mercy of the private healthcare system with growing costs and an insufficiently-growing voucher. It also will cut billions of social services like food stamps. Check it out. And Bush had the option to not spend so much, while Obama had huge deficits that are CAUSED BY THE RECESSION; everyone ought to know that.

                                                          OBAMA BIDEN 2012

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #24.6 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:36 PM EST
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                                                          Remember the same headline five or six weeks ago from Iowa....and Romney lost to Santorum.

                                                          • 5 votes
                                                          Reply#25 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:43 PM EST

                                                          Could happen. But not. This was not as close.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #25.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:00 PM EST

                                                          It was within 2000 votes. ROFL

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                                                          #25.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:14 PM EST

                                                          Oh...it very well could happen. The Maine GOP cancelled the caucuses in Washington County and half of Hancock County because of a couple inches of snow (a normal ever other day event). Washington and Hancock are heavily RP. My guess is if there is a protest over the vote and the caucuses for these counties are rescheduled it could well go RP's way.

                                                            #25.3 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:44 AM EST

                                                            It was within less than 200 votes.

                                                              #25.4 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:37 PM EST
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                                                              Its sad to say that the system has been compromised again!

                                                              "Those who cast the votes decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything" Joseph Stalin

                                                              • 3 votes
                                                              Reply#26 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:43 PM EST
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