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Mitt Romney will address a yearly gathering of Republican activists in Washington, D.C., on a much different footing than he did in 2008, when he announced to attendees of the Conservative Political Action Conference that he was ending his presidential campaign.
Romney, the darling of conservatives who had looked to the former Massachusetts governor to halt Sen. John McCain's march to the nomination, was fresh off a string of Super Tuesday losses in the last presidential election cycle.
"I entered this race because I love America. And because I love America, in this time of war, I feel I have to now stand aside for our party and for our country," Romney told the conference, ending his campaign over the vocal protests of some attendees.
Four years later -- almost to the day -- Romney will address CPAC from a much different position in the GOP field.
This time, Romney will play McCain's role: the presumptive favorite for the nomination with establishment backing, who is trying to win over the GOP's conservatives, many of whom now object to the warts on his record.
What changed in the intervening four years is partly his doing, and partly out of his control.
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No doubt the biggest shift has been the national debate on health care, and conservatives strong distaste for the national health care reform law implemented by President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress.
That law was based on one Romney signed into law as governor of Massachusetts. Once seen as an asset for his campaign, the Republican base has turned against the Bay State law. As if to make matters worse, Romney chose to embrace his plan -- and its requirement that all individuals purchase insurance -- in a key May 2011 speech. Romney has continued to defend the Massachusetts law as one that was a good solution for the state he governed at the time but unacceptable for the national plan.
Another key change has been the advent of the Tea Party, and an overarching demand by conservatives that the Republican nominee be more ideologically pure. Crossover appeal and establishment support, two central elements of Romney's appeal this cycle, are at a lower premium for primary voters than at any other point in recent political history.
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There's no better evidence of the change in the environment than the nominating contests held so far, in which Romney has at times struggled to win over the core conservative Republicans who had fueled his candidacy in 2008. He won the Minnesota caucuses in 2008 in part due to their support; without them, he fell to third place when Minnesotans caucused this past Tuesday.
Those shifts in the political environment suggest that Romney, the winner of the conference's annual straw poll from 2007-09, won’t likely receive the warm welcome he did in his 2008 speech.
He'll bring in a slightly different message this time, though. Romney's 2008 address focused on themes of social conservatism, and especially national security.
Romney's speech this time is likely to focus on the economy, in part a reflection of the tough economic climate and a core theme of the former governor's campaign. But in reaction to a recent threat from his primary foes, Romney's also more likely to articulate an anti-Washington message, stressing his time in the private sector and outside of D.C. -- in contrast to the remaining three other presidential contenders.
This year’s gathering also comes under more uncertain political terrain; just a handful of states have held their primaries or caucuses ahead of this year's edition of CPAC. By comparison, 27 states had held their nominating contests before CPAC 2008, a turning point in that campaign from which McCain carried momentum to win the nomination.
And also, two of the three surviving challengers to Romney -- former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich -- are set to speak.
In the case of Santorum, he'll be riding high following a trio of major upsets in Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri this week. He may be the heir to the hero's welcome Romney received in 2008. But unlike that year, Santorum won't be using the speech to exit from the campaign. He'll be using it as a springboard to primaries later this month, and Super Tuesday a week afterward.
Gingrich has also launched broadsides against Romney from the right flank, giving the ex-speaker a major platform to voice those criticisms when he speaks on Friday. (Gingrich is the last of the three Republican candidates to speak on Friday. Paul is not on the agenda, though his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, is slated to address the conference.)
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They may not like him, but who else do they have? You would think that if the situation is the slam-dunk that Fox says it is, that everyone wants something better, they could come up with a better candidate. The Dems did the same thing wiht Mondale and Dukakis. If the incumbent is so weak and the best you can come up with is even weaker, you deserve to lose.
Romney has the most experience as a leader, by far more than Obama has. Obama is still learning 3 years into it by saying "he's getting better". LOL - a little late, Bucky.
Obama and democrats need to be voted out. They have staged a war on our economy that has almost DOUBLED our debt, no budgets for THREE years, FUDGED the numbers about unemployment, inflation, and jobs"saved". All these people do is spend money we don't have (up to $1.40 spent for every dollar earned). They wage class warfare against the rich when raising taxes would only bring in an additional 8% (that's an extra three cents per dollar, WOW!).
America has officially hit 100% of debt to GDP, that's in the same category as Greece, Portugal, and Ireland. If Obama is reelected, America's debt is on track to reach $21 TRILLION at the end of his second term and we WILL face a Greece type wall. I almost don't want Romney to win because all the libtards will then blame him for him for "economic destruction" that Obama is already causing.
Whatever. This is about Romney being weak. Rail against Obama all you want, but you better get used to being disappointed.
BTW, what is Mittens plan to take care of this, other than "I'm not Obama"? Thought so.
P.S., by the look of his healthcare plan, looks like he is more Obama than Obama. I'm sure that sits real well with the neocons.
Romney has a VERY DETAILED plan to "take care of this". It's the MSM making him look weak because nit-picking makes good news. See Romney's plan here...
http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/09/believe-america-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth
As for Romney's healthcare plan, I don't live in Mass. If I want Romney's plan, I can move there. If I don't I can leave. With Obama, it was shoved down America's throat by procedural maneuvers and we were told we had to pass it to see what was in it. Now that we know what's in it, we can't just move to another state to avoid it... Romney 79 page RomneyCare is NOTHING like the 2000+ page ObamaCare.
I understand that Rationalone, but did you see where I posted:
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
No, I didn't see where you posted. Why don't you spam it again? LOL, you like to spout this nonsense with no actual proof, go ahead, post it again, just so you can get the last word. Bwahaha, you're funny.
I understand that Rationalone, but did you see where I posted:
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
Sing America the beautiful again Willard, everybody loves that! Seriously all he will need to do is completely bash Obama and they will love him. That's all those loons at CPAC care about anyway.
Misquoting Obama in any case. You haven't explained how exactly Romney has more experience than Obama has. Obama has been president for 3 years, Romney for 0 years. Romney's statements also imply that one must be a rich big businessman in order to hold elected office, which in itself is class warfare.
Nope. As seen here (http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/federal_deficit_chart.html), Obama's deficits are lower than Bush's, and are primarily from the recession. Even if you don't count 2009 as Bush's budget, predictions before Obama was elected had a deficit of over $1.2 Trillion (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/27/barack-obama/obama-says-deficit-was-track-top-1-trillion-year-h/).
We had a budget up until September 2010. The 2011 budget was stalled by Republicans and instead ran on continuing appropriations from 2010. 2012's budget was not passed either, and that had a Republican House of Representatives.
How so?
Please clarify this figure.
Cite your sources. Repealing Bush Tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans would cut the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars. Keep in mind that taxes as they are for the wealthiest Americans are at an all time low, even when they now control more of the wealth than ever before.
Japan is over 200% of its GDP. In any case, the US was over 100% of the GDP after WWII, and that got paid down SLOWLY over time, without harming the economy. Massive spending cuts after a recession is what caused the 1937 recession, after FDR had ended the Great Depression.
This is actually true. However, as a percentage of the GDP, it will barely be over 100%, and it will be even lower if taxes are raised and defense spending is cut. (http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/).
Obama has ended the Recession. The DOW is higher than it was throughout Bush's presidency. You have nothing.
A good read. Nice!
Well heck, Romney should be used to the Hate Fest by now. After all, he has been a part of it. Nothing but general criticism with no substance (lies) and negativity.
Nothing, absolutely nothing about what the GOP stands FOR -- whether it's job creation, or real solutions to balance the budget (i.e., NOT "starve the beast" BS), or how to fix our broken health care system, or anything to restore the middle class and American Dream.
No, they have no hope or solutions to offer. So they turn yet again to a culture war, wanting to go back to the Dark Ages of a plutocracy and religious rule of the masses. It won't work, but hey, it looks like that's all they got.
The Rethuglicans are down to four candudates and essentially its like four different kind of turds. How they are going to finally choke down the wiener is beyond me. Just glad my choice is Obama.
Mittens is a Fake, a Phoney, and a Fraud! The GNOP see's through his weak excuse for a conservative and hopefully they give him the boot!
Good ole Flip Romney.
The GOP is a little too late,Too little to claim "Buyers Remorse"---Romney is Clearly a manipulative "RINO" and little else. NO Empathy for struggling middle-class Americans. Where's your detailed Plan for economic recovery, Mitt ???!!! No Ideas ? I didn't think so.
Actually he has a VERY DETAILED plan for America. You might try learning that for yourself rather than spout the MSM empty talking points. You can find his plan here...
http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/09/believe-america-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth
I read it, and it would help if he used some numbers based in reality. He claims there are more people unemployed now than in 2009. That is a blatant lie.
I SINCERELY DOUBT you read any of it since your first claim was:
So what if he's claiming that unemployment is more or less than in 2009, it's still worse than it should be BECAUSE of Obama. Facts are we have an unreported real unemployment rate of approx. 16-22%. The Labor Department's statistics don't include the underemployed and those who have stopped looking. Here's a Washington post article that places it stuck at over 10%...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/is-the-real-unemployment-rate-stuck/2011/08/25/gIQAVyiTiQ_blog.html
Just shows how many people are drinking this administrations kool-aid.
That is true Rationalone, but you forgot to mention this:
If you are making 300k or below in this country and you vote for one of these greedy republican idiots, you are, quite literally, voting to take your money and hand it over to the rich! If you are making over that and only care for yourself then I could certainly see why you would want one of these canidates to win.
Republican tax cuts for the wealthy provided Americans making more than $1 million with a $128,832 benefit, while Americans earning from $40,000 to $50,000 got an $860 benefit on average.
Sound fair to you? NO? That's because it isn't. The deck is already stacked against the poor and middle-class and these jokers want to make it even more unjust.
Ratonalone, so if balancing the budget by closing government offices, consolodation, etc is going to put governemnt workers out of work, why is that not going to add to unemployment? Aren't they people too, with families, mortgages, bills? Do you think the private sector could absorb all those newly unemployed?
And we have a "real" unemployment rate is higher, is a red herring. There is no way to count the "phantom" unemployed, and if there was, revising EVERY previous president would be rather embarassing to St. Ronald Reagan. You can plug any number you want in there, but it won't hold up. I could make the same claim about people working under the table, ut it would be pointless. Stick to facts, not guesstimates.
And just HOW does voting for a republican = handing it over to the rich? The government doesn't TAKE money from the poor and GIVE it to rich people. From what I'm reading from you is that wealthy people STILL PAY TAXES and poor people DON't!!! Your logic is FLAWED. Romney paid almost 15% which is 10% more than I paid in taxes! (and I earn less than $300k) So, you are just plain wrong.
I think Obama will be reelected and it won't even be close. Republicans would do well to save their money for 2016. This is the 1984 Reagan reelection/ end of recession all over again. The economy is improving and people will reward the President. I see Congress is now at 10% approval while Obama is up to 50%.
Obama was slow to get started (I think his first year was extremely amateurish), but even conservatives admit that he has learned and grown into the job. People don't want someone new to have to learn the job again.
That is true Rationalone, but you forgot to mention this:
If you are making 300k or below in this country and you vote for one of these greedy republican idiots, you are, quite literally, voting to take your money and hand it over to the rich! If you are making over that and only care for yourself then I could certainly see why you would want one of these canidates to win.
Republican tax cuts for the wealthy provided Americans making more than $1 million with a $128,832 benefit, while Americans earning from $40,000 to $50,000 got an $860 benefit on average.
Sound fair to you? NO? That's because it isn't. The deck is already stacked against the poor and middle-class and these jokers want to make it even more unjust.
Should we really be borrowing 40 cents for every dollar to pay for these people? Is it worth risking ALL of our futures for a few government workers (and their families, mortgages, bills)? Honestly?
I'm not heartless, but we've got to learn when to say NO! We can let a LOT of these workers go through attrition and other means, but they should NEVER have been hired there in the first place!
Oh, and btw, again I don't know why I'm even spending this much time on somebody as stupid as you Rational, but here you go:
Romney paid less then 14 percent, not almost 15.
Now you may continue on with your lies :)
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
Oh Puleeez. You can't even get your facts straight. I'm talking 2011...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/romney-tax-returns-to-give-view-of-family-wealth/
That's not even including the 35% tax rate that corporations have to pay BEFORE giving him a dividend that he has to pay that 15% taxes on...
Oh so funny Rational...lol, what a freakin' idiot. First he tells us how good he has it because he paid so little in taxes, makes $110,000 a year, and complains how Obama ruined the country.
Honestly, are you this dumb or are you just pretending? Talk about being paid by Romney, lol. Is this the best you got Romney? A guy going around telling everybody how good he has it and that is why we need to get rid of Obama. Funny stuff man..LOVE IT!! :)
Haha, do you really have to make it this easy for me?
I really do think you are this stupid...no really.
Here you go...I'll do you and this board one better. I won't just find one little article somewhere I'll list a whole google search..just for you and your ignorance :)
#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=romney+taxes&pbx=1&oq=romney+taxes&aq=f&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2415l6332l0l6439l12l9l0l3l3l0l375l1818l1.4.2.2l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=935a0bef009a2890&biw=1241&bih=947
Suppose now you'll be all, "Wait, I was talking about 2004. Yeah that's it!" lol
Keep going, you'll be banned soon... Nice talkin with you.
I understand that Rationalone, but did you see where I posted:
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
Oh nice comeback Rational, going to have your boss pay msn to have me kicked? lol
It's like you just get dumber as we go along....
Btw, the other canidates, and Obama, how much did they pay in income tax there brainiac? Less then 14 percent? Or did they pay between 20-30 percent?
lol
It's just called common courtesy, something not seen from the left when they are losing the argument.
Lol, losing an argument? Good stuff :)
Um, again..what was the percentage the other canidates, and Obama, pay for income tax?
Now, with your math 20-30 percent is still more then less then 14 percent isn't it? Funny how I have to actually ask you that but....
Oh so funny Rational...lol, what a freakin' idiot. First he tells us how good he has it because he paid so little in taxes, makes $110,000 a year, and complains how Obama ruined the country.
Honestly, are you this dumb or are you just pretending? Talk about being paid by Romney, lol. Is this the best you got Romney? A guy going around telling everybody how good he has it and that is why we need to get rid of Obama. Funny stuff man..LOVE IT!! :)
i think the republican party is moving rapidly to the "dangerous-right". I am an independent and watching Romney. He actually IS a typical republican but the party itself is turning into the Christian version of Muslim brotherhood and with that rejects a "normal, understandable candidate" like Romney. It is a BIG failure from the core conservatives. They should accept Romney. He is the right guy.
CPAC is no lovefest for Mitty. The GOP can taste the bile reflux that is Mitt Romney,and while they would all like to EMBRACE Rick Santorum,they are afraid that it would look GAY !!!!!
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
Romney paying 14 percent in taxes is a hell of a lot of money. I earned $110,000 last year and paid $4,800 in taxes. That's about 4.4% and I don't have any Caymen Island accounts or "rich" loopholes, just the standard Form A deductions. Romney certainly doesn't pay a less percentage in taxes than the "average" american. Get a clue.
Rationalone-and a bunch of numbers:
You are in the 28% tax bracket, that is, if you were not a lying piece of crap. Since you are, I have no idea how much you really pay legally. That is just the marginal rate across the nation but basically, yeah, you are full of crap.
Did you not know anybody could simply look it up and see what the average person making that much would have to pay?
So are you lying about how much you made or how much you paid? Both? Or did you lie to the IRS?
In any case, I do feel sorry about your stupidity. I really do! :)
You are right, I AM in the 28% tax bracket. I also was truthful on my taxes. Since you are so clueless about how taxes work, just like everyone else that spouts this nonsense, I'll explain it - Just because you are IN a bracket doesn't mean you PAY that much in taxes. In other words NOBODY pays the real rate! Geez, everyone STARTS with the standard deductions so that it drops you down.
Personally, I had charitable deductions, mortgage deductions, child-tax credits, sales tax deductions, auto registration deductions, college tuition deductions, etc, etc, etc. Are you really that clueless?
Rational: So you claimed all those deductions and assumed everybody else did and that is why you said most pay less then 14 percent? Want to prove that idiot. Let's see it! Let's see where most tax paying american's pay less then 14 percent in income taxes. Or, um, lol, again, are you full of crap?
I mean, you are full of crap either way, and if you got that kinda deductions on your tax form you would be praising Obama not acting like we need to be rid of him. Lol, what an idiot! It's like you lie, and then you lie again, and hope at some point SOMEBODY might actually believe you. Sorry dude, I could smell it from a mile away!
Oh, and one more thing:
If you are making 300k or below in this country and you vote for one of these greedy republican idiots, you are, quite literally, voting to take your money and hand it over to the rich! If you are making over that and only care for yourself then I could certainly see why you would want one of these canidates to win.
Republican tax cuts for the wealthy provided Americans making more than $1 million with a $128,832 benefit, while Americans earning from $40,000 to $50,000 got an $860 benefit on average.
Sound fair to you? NO? That's because it isn't. The deck is already stacked against the poor and middle-class and these jokers want to make it even more unjust.
Yup, I guess you really are that clueless. Calling me an idiot and a liar when it's a rather simple process to prove it to you. Get out a form 1040, Schedule A, Form 8812 (child tax credit) and go over the tax deductions. Do the numbers yourself. 5 kids, $24k mortgage, $10k charitable. I am TRULY a middle-class American.
In fact, put in any amount. You will see that NOBODY pays actual rates of 28% on income below $200K (even just using the STANDARD deductions).
Oh so funny Rational...lol, what a freakin' idiot. First he tells us how good he has it because he paid so little in taxes, makes $110,000 a year, and complains how Obama ruined the country.
Honestly, are you this dumb or are you just pretending? Talk about being paid by Romney, lol. Is this the best you got Romney? A guy going around telling everybody how good he has it and that is why we need to get rid of Obama. Funny stuff man..LOVE IT!! :)
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
If you are making 300k or below in this country and you vote for one of these greedy republican idiots, you are, quite literally, voting to take your money and hand it over to the rich! If you are making over that and only care for yourself then I could certainly see why you would want one of these canidates to win.
Republican tax cuts for the wealthy provided Americans making more than $1 million with a $128,832 benefit, while Americans earning from $40,000 to $50,000 got an $860 benefit on average.
Sound fair to you? NO? That's because it isn't. The deck is already stacked against the poor and middle-class and these jokers want to make it even more unjust.
When will they ask Romney the real questions?
Like:
1."Mr. Romney, explain to everybody how placing your money into shelters overseas so you can get away with paying less then 14 percent in annual taxes is helping Americans?"
2."Mr. Romney, do you send the bulk of your money overseas because you value the trade of other countries over America's, or did you send your money over there so you didn't have to pay as much in taxes as everybody else does?"
3."Mr. Romney, you like to say that you pay what you owe in taxes and not a dollar more. What if the vast majority of America thinks you should pay a lot more? Do you agree with the majority of American people and pay more taxes or tell them you don't care and don't want their votes anyways?"
4. "Mr. Romney, do you think all Americans should pay less then 14 percent of their annual incomes to taxes, like you do, even though that would plunge this great nation into third-world status almost immediately?
5. "Mr. Romney only the rich could take advantage of loopholes you have used to insure you pay less in taxes then almost all Americans who pay taxes. Should that be how America's tax code works? Should rich people, like yourself, pay smaller percent of your income to taxes when people like our military, cops, social workers, firefighters have to pay a great deal more?
If you are making 300k or below in this country and you vote for one of these greedy republican idiots, you are, quite literally, voting to take your money and hand it over to the rich! If you are making over that and only care for yourself then I could certainly see why you would want one of these canidates to win.
Republican tax cuts for the wealthy provided Americans making more than $1 million with a $128,832 benefit, while Americans earning from $40,000 to $50,000 got an $860 benefit on average.
Sound fair to you? NO? That's because it isn't. The deck is already stacked against the poor and middle-class and these jokers want to make it even more unjust.
This election should be about leadership. Obama had no leadership. He had never run anything and it shows. Santorum has never run anything either. Newt is in orbit on the way to the moon. The government needs to be run like a business!!!
Brilliant post John-numbers, well, except about how shallow it is. Is this really the depth in which you think? Kinda got a "dumb and dumber" view on the world? No really, I'm being serious!
Hell by your logic George Washington couldn't have been president.
I have an idea for you there turbo-thinker. Why don't you go google Abraham Lincoln and come back here and tell us all about how much experience he had before running for office. Oh, and please, when you post again, be sure to let us all know how stupid you were for taking up such a stupid arguement. Thanks buddy!
Obama ran a country for three years. How many countries has Romney run?
Correction, Obama DESTROYED a country for three years. How many countries has Romney ruined?
Oh so funny Rational...lol, what a freakin' idiot. First he tells us how good he has it because he paid so little in taxes, makes $110,000 a year, and complains how Obama ruined the country.
Honestly, are you this dumb or are you just pretending? Talk about being paid by Romney, lol. Is this the best you got Romney? A guy going around telling everybody how good he has it and that is why we need to get rid of Obama. Funny stuff man..LOVE IT!! :)
funny- whenever we have elected a person with a business background they dont do well- G.W.Bush and Carter are the two last and both are not well regarded.
Paxil, I suppose it was better to elect a President who is clueless with no experience of any kind and never had a real job. Yeah, that was what we needed. I can see how that turned out. Now he says he deserves a second term? I don't think the voters will give him one.
Dee Patriot? Still clueless? That is really surprising...nah, just kidding!
Hey, if you want to throw your money and vote to the party that support the rich, by all means go right ahead. But if you are not rich yourself, then really, you are an idiot, and I'm not kidding.
Vote Romney because the rich deserves my money more then I do!!
CNN is reporting that Barrack Obama has been re-elected as POTUS....!!! FOMOFO-O !!!
What? which conservatives are saying Obama has learned and grown into the job? I would really like to know? What has he learned? What has he done that was different now than in the first year he was President.
Romney would not be coming in as "inexperienced" to learn the job. He is coming in with business experience neccessary to do what needs to be done to get more jobs and bring unemployment down way below the unacceptable level of 8.3%. There will be no on the job training as we have experienced and still experiencing with Obama. We can not afford it.
Dee Patriot-What? Who? Where? Huh?
Funny how that is kinda how I picture you going through the day...lol
Not calling you an absolute idiot but..no, yeah that's what I'm calling you and yes, sadly, it is true :(
I'll give you 85 things he has done. We'll call this:
85 reasons Dee Patriot is an idiot:
1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of
Nice cut and paste job. What you see as accomplishments I see as failures. Nice try. I am not going to waste my time to rebut these ridiculous statements. The name calling, ofcourse I expected it, very predictable from a liberal. Like I always say, name calling is ignorance, not intelligence. Say what you want to excuse the main issue but reality is we have high unemployment, 65 million people are getting some kind of government assistance and a record national debt with more spending to come of our money we don't have. These are the issues the American people need for Obama to lead on and he hasn't a clue on how to address this. He is a failure in this aspect and you can look for excuses of other accomplishments to justify his bad record but the facts are the facts.
Dee Patriot: Yeah I really care what you call failure. Truth be told, you are a sheep. No matter what he did would be failure to you so why should I care what you think? You are an idiot and I really do mean that. I mean you lack the reasoning needed to see things from any other point of view but your own. Basically everything you ever needed to know you learned from dear old dad and kindergarten and quite frankly, I don't mind arguing with a kid that can't see anything past the tip of his nose :)
Oh, and I'll cut and paste, copy, or do whatever I need to if it saves time. Something tells me you wouldn't...lol
A point you even made in your post. Good job brainiac!
We could elect God himself as President but if he says he's a democrat idiots like Dee Patriot here will call him a failure. And I'm sure there is a nice place for all the Dee Patriots to go where he can speculate about how stupid they are for all eternity :)
How does someone that considers themselves a patriot want what is contrary to the welfare of the nation as a whole? Typical republican, your ideology, your religion, your needs are all that matter. You can keep all of those things while Obama keeps the white house for another four years. Perhaps if you had and the other conservative haters would have spent less time obsessively hating on Obama and more time choosing a candidate that has a chance to win, he wouldn't so easily win the white house. The GOP is the saddest excuse for a political party, the conservative base is so completely uneducated and they view education as a negative. How does one argue with something so irrational? I really feel for the establishment at this point, its like trying to herd a bunch of cats.
Simplicity, Wow, I must really have struck a nerve! If you don't care what I think, why the strong reaction?? I am sorry if you are angry that I think Obama's policies are failures. More than half of the country feel the way I do. You are the one with one point of view and blast mine and resort to name calling like a typical liberal. I don't see the few conservatives on these posts behaving in this manner the way you do. Oh well, keep up with the name calling if it makes you feel better. Won't change the way I feel and the way half the country feels. Lots of anger on these posts, maybe too much! I wonder why that is????
Actually his approval rating is at fifty percent, and the facts support that he has not harmed the economy at all. In fact the economy has steadily recovered after the economic collapse, albeit it slow. You didn't strike a nerve and I frequently see republicans calling liberals libtards and other stupid made up words. The fact is studies suggest that very conservative people tend to be under educated. I am a independent, not a liberal. I would have liked Huntsman, I would vote for Bloomberg, I will not vote for Santorum who wants to take away all rights from women to have choice over their bodies. I will not vote for Gingrich who is a serial liar and cheater and lacks any follow through. I will not vote for Romney who I have yet to see give any ideas on his policy. All he does is criticize Obama but he doesn't say how he plans to carry it all out. Obama is far from perfect but the demonization of him because of skin color, does make you look ignorant.
There is anger in these posts because that is what the leadership is giving us, groups tend to take cues from their leadership. The vitriol that is coming from both sides has brought congress to a stand still, until we get the extremists out of office we will not have a functional government. Deepatriot, you still have half the country who adamantly disagrees with the conservative agenda. You have independents that are looking at the GOP race and wondering why we should vote for any of them if all they can do is take pot shots at Obama, they certainly don't offer solutions and any that have get dismissed. It really feels like the conservative base just wants to hear hate.
Dee Patriot: I'm not angry at all. And your comments about, "I am a sheep and this is why," doesn't really strike any nerves that I know of. Kinda tickles my funny bone, does that count?
I'm not blasting your point-of-vew, I'm blasting your stupidity. You come here saying crap like what did he do, I give you 85 but those don't count. You were looking for nothing because you are a sheep. And it is sheep like you following the republican party is why we have such an imbalance in the distribution of wealth in this country, and that I'm concerned about.
I can mention he got Bin Laden and you'll have a negative spin on that. To you he can do no right. People like you are ignorant and I just enjoy pointing that out. That's all :)
I don't take it personal or anything, I'm not the one who has to go through life as an idiot...
To be fair on Bin Laden, the information that led to where he was located came during the Bush administration and Bush created team 6, he just never used them like Obama has and he succeeded in cutting the head off of the proverbial snake of Al Quida. There is no one president that is responsible for the economic collapse, there is no one president that lives in isolation from those before them. To really analyze a president you have to do it from the perspective of policy that lead to events. While Bush overspent and that probably made the collapse worse, it was Clinton's policy that set that little bomb to go off.
Jan-21270: LOl, I like this:
"I really feel for the establishment at this point, its like trying to herd a bunch of cats"
Except I don't feel bad for them, I enjoy it!
haha
It has come to the point that one of America's political parties has nothing to offer its members and the rest of voters but a constant river of deceit. They expect it to work, in spite of an educated public and the media, which if anything, is highly tolerant of lies and distortion - "You decide", as if facts were relative.
For example:
Twenty-six states already have the requirement that contraception is to be included in insurance policies written for health care. Houses of worship are exempt from this requirement in providing employee health care. Educational, business, and health care institutions are not exempt. In other words, half the states in the country have had such requirements for many years.
Roman Catholics, by a great majority, approve of and use contraception in America, in spite of Vatican reaction to the advent of "the pill." Male prelates determined that women should play sexual roulette and be open to the threat of cervical cancer, on the behalf of their being God's voice of opinion.
Why is this such a radical issue right now? Why is it now a "war against religion"? It's an election year and the same instructions already in effect in reality are part of women's health insurance requirements in national health care law being rolled out. Suddenly, women's health care is all wrong and President Obama invented it in order to attack religion! The fact that Obama is a born-again Christian is denied on the theory that only Republicans are Christians. Jesus suffered and died for the Republican Party members exclusively.
This brouhaha is similar to the Bush, Sr. election issue that the flag, whether cotton, rayon, or nylon needed a Constitutional amendment that superseded the first amendment. The "flags are more important than people" issue stirred up the political pot and diverted attention from real issues to hyper-patriotic hysteria for a few wingers. In 1960 the issue was, Should we go to war with China if they took over the offshore islands of Quemoy and Matsu? War!!!, said the right wing.
When the Republicans want an issue, they create one, full of hyperbole and gut wrenching emotion, but signifying nothing. So let it be with employee contraception insurance. The church's one foundation is Jesus, not medicine. If churches preach against contraception or blood transfusions, they are free to do so. If affiliated institutions that serve the public and hire workers, they need to obey the law like anyone else. That is democracy and the Constitution is democratic, not ecclesiastical. America is not the Vatican, Mecca, or Jerusalem.
Religion can go belly up as far as I'm concerned, but there shouldn't be a war on it, it should just die a natural death of old age. The 'war' is on the retarded crap that some religionists try to pretend is anywhere near as useful as the technology and science that we've come to depend on so completely for our actual survival.
CPAC..(Colored people are Commies) is about to wind up its RALLY..what a CLAN they had there. The Crazies were all there,and its unanimous...They LOVE to HATE !!! The good news is,the Rick Santorum sweater vest's were selling like hotcakes...the bad news is..They have to order them through JCPenney,and Ellen Degeneris told them to F#$% off !!!
The republican party is composed almost exclusively of WHITE people---It's prov-en every time there are pictures/videos of GOP/Teaparty rallies. You don't think they are getting nervous because America's Population is living in big cities & are racially more diverse (i.e. non-white) do you? Their's is a intolerant,Reactionary movement---And It's about the "Status Quo Ante". It looks Back---It will FAIL America !
Here Here !!!
No matter on any of the establishment stooges...RON PAUL won't win, but only because we are busy campaigning....
If you are gay,and you are a Republican,then you are a stupid gay person.......
You should start pulling up Rick Santorum's record. Rick Santorum was named among the top 3 most corrupt senators in 2005-2006 by a Washington watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
The Pittsburgh Post Gazette reported that Santorum took the most cash from corporate lobbyists of any other politician in Washington, adding that Santorum "has a black belt in hypocrisy."
CNN is ready to announce that....the GOP loses the House and seats in the Senate...the Democrats will have control of all three bodies and the 1% are fleeing the country in record rates !!!...............Sound Crazy ??? Just take a look at these newsvines !!! They are all but gone ! They are demoralized totally at the GOP clown show and will all be staying home on election day. Mark my words,they are heading towards the very bottom of a loooong dark cycle for the Grand Old Party......FOMOFO-O !!!
Probably the most unjust is Santorum’s involment with Jack Abramoff in protecting the Tan family and their staggering array of human rights abuses on the Commwealth of Morthern Marianas Islands. The Tan family ran sweatshops on the islands and Santorum provided legislative cover for the truly rancid sweatshops, their human rights violations and almost fathomless moral quagmire of forced prostitution and abortions.
Research the candidates. Newt has been cheating since 1962, committing fraud, a dead beat dad that wouldn't pay childcare, investigated by the FBI, etc, etc. Santorum was one of the most corrupt politicians in WA DC. He was involved in K street and lobbyist, Jack Abramoff went to prison. Santorum's illegal charity collected $1 million, $524,000 went in the pockets of his aides, fundraisers and lobbyist. Most charities will payout 75% to 100% of their proceeds in grants. Santorum's illegal only 36%. His PAC that he set up to fund other candidates only spent 18% on the candidates the rest went to living expenses., etc, etc.
This compassionate Christian conservative founded a charity that was actually a bit of a scam. In 2001, following up on a faith-based urban charity initiative around the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia, Santorum launched a charitable foundation called the Operation Good Neighbor Foundation. While in its first few years the charity cut checks to community groups for $474,000, Operation Good Neighbor Foundation had actually raised more than $1 million, from donors who overlapped with Santorum's political fund raising. Where did the majority of the charity's money go? In salary and consulting fees to a network of politically connected lobbyists, aides and fundraisers, including rent and office payments to Santorum's finance director Rob Bickhart, later finance chair of the Republican National Committee. When I reported on Santorum's charity for The American Prospect in 2006, experts told me a responsible charity doles out at least 75 percent of its income in grants, and they were shocked to learn the figure for Operation Good Neighbor Fund was less than 36 percent. The charity -- which didn't register with the state of Pennsylvania as required under the law --- was finally disbanded in 2007. Huffington Post
For all of the money that the romneysuperpacs and Mo Romney himself have spent it really appears that the GOP voters are, if you will, "demanding an alternative to Romney."
Not only did Mo Romney need to win in CO....Mo Romney "needed to win big." But instead, he "lost long!"
The GOPers, the Evangelicals, and the Independents ...........just do not bond with Mo Romney.
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
Gingrich has cheated on wife and family since 1962,was a dead beat dad, committed fraud, fined for tax evasion,was investigated by the FBI, etc, etc.
Santorum was one of the most corrupt politicians in WA DC. The Pittsburg Gazette stated that he had a black belt in hypocrisy. His illegal charity pocketed $524,000 out of $1 million donated to it and used that money to pay aides,fundraisers and lobbyist. He worked with Walmart to limit minimum wage and overtime laws.
Probably the most unjust is Santorum’s involment with Jack Abramoff in protecting the Tan family and their staggering array of human rights abuses on the Commwealth of Morthern Marianas Islands. The Tan family ran sweatshops on the islands and Santorum provided legislative cover for the truly rancid sweatshops, their human rights violations and almost fathomless moral quagmire of forced prostitution and abortions.
Sounds like GOP leadership material to me !!!!