Romney poised to win another state Saturday

Brian Snyder / Reuters

Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney takes the stage at a campaign rally in Reno, Nevada February 2, 2012.

Updated at 1:05p.m. ET 

Republican front-runner Mitt Romney seemed poised to pick up another state in the race to challenge President Barack Obama this fall, as candidates made a last push Friday before the caucuses in Nevada this weekend.

While Romney narrows his focus on Obama and the economy — by far the most important election issue this year — the president got welcome news Friday, as the Labor Department said the country's unemployment rate dropped to 8.3 percent from 8.5 percent in December, the lowest in nearly three years.

Lower unemployment is a positive a sign for Obama's hopes for a second term. Still, he's likely to face voters with the highest unemployment rate of any post-war president.

Related: Trump backs Romney: 'He's not going to allow bad things to continue to happen' 

"There are still far too many Americans who need a job ... but the economy is growing stronger. The recovery is speeding up. And we need to do everything in our power to keep it going," Obama said Friday.

In remarks later Friday, Romney said about 24 million Americans are still looking for work. "We're the strongest economy in the world and people have suffered enough, I think unnecessarily," he said.

Romney, a Mormon with close ties to church leaders, is expected to carry an overwhelming majority of votes Saturday from Nevada members of the church. Roughly 7 percent of Nevada's population is Mormon, but they carry more clout than that because they turn out in such high numbers. Nearly a quarter of all 2008 Republican presidential caucus voters in Nevada were Mormon, and roughly nine in 10 backed Romney then.

A final day of campaigning in Nevada for Romney, closest challenger Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul followed a carvival-like day in which real estate mogul and reality TV star Donald Trump stole the spotlight with a surprise endorsement for Romney. The news came after Gingrich's campaign mistakenly leaked word that he, not Romney, would get the backing.

Amid the glitter of Las Vegas casinos, Trump declared that Romney, whom he often criticized in the past, is "not going to allow bad things to continue to happen to this country we all love." The endorsement wasn't expected to have much sway on Republican voters, but it was a shot of publicity for a race that has seen a dizzying range of candidates rise and fall.

Romney said he was glad to get the support, but he seemed almost bemused to be caught up in the drama.

"There are some things you just can't imagine happening. This is one of them," Romney said with a smile.

Romney is already the clear Republican front-runner after a convincing win in the Florida primary this week, pulling 46.4 percent in the state compared with 31.9 percent for Gingrich, a former speaker of the House of Representatives, his closest rival.

The race is now moving to more western states that could be more friendly to Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who has been hit in recent weeks with concerns over his multimillionaire status and his sometimes tone-deaf comments about the poor.

Whereas Romney's faith was widely viewed nationally as a liability in 2008, running as a Mormon in the West guarantees a built-in voting bloc. Nearly 2.9 million members of the church live in Utah, Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, California and Arizona. In contrast, there are barely 206,000 Mormons in the first four Republican voting states of New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Florida, according to church estimates.

Even Mormon Democrats in Nevada claim Romney as a point of pride.

"The LDS church has the same affinity toward Mitt Romney as African-Americans feel toward President Obama," said Democratic state Sen. John Lee, referring to the church's full name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. "We don't look at him as the governor from Massachusetts. We don't look at him as the leader who saved the Olympics. We look at him as a man who knows what the values of our church are."

The church stresses political engagement, urging its members to "play a role as responsible citizens in their communities, including becoming informed about issues and voting in elections," according to its website.

The libertarian Texas Rep. Paul, who took second in Nevada in 2008, has been courting Mormon voters for months, setting up a "Latter Day Saints for Ron Paul" Facebook page, holding special phone bank hours aimed at registered Republican Mormon voters and sending out frequent campaign emails highlighting his Mormon volunteers.

Gingrich and former Pennsylvania senator Santorum, who only recently launched campaign operations in Nevada, have done little to appeal directly to church members. But their religious values — both are Catholics — could serve as a common ground with some Mormon voters who revere family and faith.



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he's poised to pick up the US in November.

should be an easy one

the socialist is in trouble

  • 11 votes
#1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:06 AM EST

Good thing the entire US isn't Mormon or Republican. Romney has a fight coming.

  • 13 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:27 AM EST

"I don't care about the very poor"

"$10000 bet?"

"PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air."

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

"There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip"

Really awesome candidate he is. Of course, the GOP field has yet again netted just an awesome showing of great political talent.

  • 17 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:37 AM EST
Comment author avatarHank-4058595Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The liberal media is disgusting and unable of providing a factual representation of the news. The growing number of poor in the US isn’t “Romney’s Very Poor” they are the unfortunate result of Obama’s far left beliefs. America better wake up. Remember, fool me once - shame on you (liberal media); fool me twice - shame on me (liberal supporters).

  • 12 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:59 AM EST

GOP Teapugs are the food stamp kings by supporting the 1% that sit on their money and hide their wealth in overseas accounts.

  • 16 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:07 AM EST

The liberal media is disgusting and unable of providing a factual representation of the news.

And that's different from the GOP media how?

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:09 AM EST

alexinPA

the socialist is in trouble

I would be willing to bet you can't even define "socialism" without Googling it.

  • 15 votes
#1.6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:23 AM EST

He's poised to pick up the state that is missing their village idiot? Oh wait, Bush Jr. went back. Never mind.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:34 AM EST
Comment author avatarT-bone22Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

He's not a socialist a-hole, he's a marxist. There is a difference in the way you destroy a society.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:01 AM EST

As long as Sarah Palin doesn't endorse Romney, he might do better in the coming months... She endorsed Gingrich and look what's happened to him...

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST

He's not a socialist a-hole, he's a marxist.

Ah yes, more regurgitation without comprehension of words being spewed.

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST

Kennedy was a Roman Catholic and despite some initial 'concerns' that largely proved to be a non-factor.

I suspect that Romney's membership in the LDS will also prove not to be a factor in terms of electability. But as Slick Willie demonstrated, professed membership in any particular Church does NOT influence performance over a wide range of moral and ethical matters. Far from it: Newt's Catholicism has not stopped him becoming a complete moral and ethical TURD.

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:55 AM EST

"A Endorsement from Palin or Cain is a kiss of Death"

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:21 PM EST

This is a state he was supposed to get. Looking ahead he is not going to get 5 of 6 like he did in 2008. Seems Gingrich and even Santorum are ahead of him in a couple of these.

in 2008 Romney had the Huckabee problem. in 2012 Romney and Gingrich have a Santorum problem. While Mitt's numbers are up, and Gingeriches as sliding slightly, Santorum's popularity is gaining. In some cases it is hurting Romney's numbers, sometimes it is hurting Gingrich. Case in point. Romney was winning Pennsylvania - Now Santorum is. Gingrich was winning Missouri, Santorum is now 2 points behind Gingrich. Ohio was Romney, it is now Gingrich by one with Santorum 3 points behind Romney.

Pollsters have noted Santorum still surging and are now checking him one on one with Obama. Romney is barely polling 1 point higher than Santorum against Obama. Even Ron Paul is polling in that Range now.

Note: Santorum is doing this with almost no funding, but I'm hearing his funding rate has tripled in the last few days. I wonder what would happen if he just had Gingrich's funding.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST

Patriotic American - Trump is trying to get both Palin and Limbaugh to get on board with Romney. I think that was a fail. Let's wait a few more days, but with funding now shifting toward Santorum, the opposite effect may be occuring.

You might be more accurate to say, not having them on board could leave a pretty ugly mark.

    #1.14 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:22 PM EST

    Romney=Obama=Bush2

    Figures, 4 more years of the same according to the ministry of truth, er, MSNBC.

    • 3 votes
    #1.15 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST

    @Hank-4058595

    "Remember, fool me once - shame on you (liberal media); fool me twice - shame on me (liberal supporters)."

    Or as the last republiCLOWN president, DUH-bya, famously said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....You can't fool me again." LMAO

    President Obama has an impressive record of accomplishments, despite facing unprecedented right-wing obstruction. Even with McConnell and his fellow RWNJs opposing the President at every turn, the economy is slowly but surely heading in the right direction. I can only imagine how much better off our economy would be if the republiCANTS (who have severely stifled our recovery and nearly caused our nation to default on its obligations simply because of their racist hatred of OUR President) actually cared enough about the people of this nation to put country ahead of party and work WITH President Obama and the democrats.

    The majority of Americans KNOW that DUH-bya and the republiCONS were largely responsible for the recession and the mess President Obama inherited (two unfunded wars, unfunded Medicare Part D Prescription Drug Plan, the Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 & 2003, failure to properly regulate the markets & financial institutions, etc.) The American people will not be "fooled again" into going back to the same failed policies ("trickle-down economics") that got us into this mess, by putting another reTHUGlican in the White House!

    • 6 votes
    #1.16 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:53 PM EST

    February looks to be a good month for Romney.

    And consequently a bad month for America.

    • 5 votes
    #1.17 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST

    Remember, fool me once - shame on you ...; fool me twice - shame on me

    Fool me a million times - shame on Fox News and Mitt Romney.

    Mitt Romney: He's like Robin Hood, only in reverse.

    • 5 votes
    #1.18 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST

    Newt's Catholicism has not stopped him becoming a complete moral and ethical TURD.

    Not fair. Newt had moral and ethical problems BEFORE becoming Catholic. He can't change the past.

    At least Newt pays TAXES, unlike the Romneys.

    • 4 votes
    #1.19 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST

    Mitt Romney has much higher moral standards and the ability to lead than Gingrich ever will. Just because Gingrich hides behind his joining of the Catholic church does not make make him even with the rest of us. I still don't trust him or his wife. He will do the same thing to her that he did to his previous wives. And for those who feel they know so much about the Mormon faith and are not members, maybe they should talk to a real member and not take what the read online as factual.

      #1.20 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:46 PM EST

      Right, Socialism is wonderful. Just look at Europe. All those safety nets and regulations to keep bad things from happening don't seem to be working very well the entire collection of socialist countries is near bankruptcy. Remember all that Green Energy in Spain that was transforming the country and creating millions of jobs in 2008 when Obama was promising to follow their lead. Well, all you have to do is take a look now at that shining example Obama held out to us. Spain has 20%+ unemployment and the government can't pay it's bills. There is rioting in the streets of Italy and Greece because neither of these governments can afford to keep all the promises they have made to people in order to buy their votes. If the EU was healthy and strong, you could keep on selling this socialist koolaid, but europe is a failure, the world bank is having to prop it up to keep the whole thing from collapsing. The future for America if Obama is elected for 4 more years is clearly visable in Europe. Apparently Obama thinks he can do the same things that have been done in Europe but have a different result here. He is dillusional and so are you if you buy into this lie. Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of INSANITY. Stop believing the LIE, the government can't give us anything. We have to earn it ourselves. If Europe were successful you could make the argument that we should give Obama more time. Well we know if we give Obama more time we will end up like just exactly like Europe--bankrupt-- because we have the example of Europe to look at we know for certain that any improvement we have in this economy is only temporary. The real issue is $15 trillion in debt that we can't afford, and Obama wants more debt to continue his journey towards European socialism and government control of everything in our lives. I don't want his lightbulbs his Chevy Volts or his Solyndra boondoggles anymore. ANBODY but Obam. Romeny who is a person with a demonstrated history of fixing things that are broken is looking pretty good right now.

        #1.21 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 10:44 AM EST

        The same people who call Obama a socialist have no problem at all taking advantage of Social Security, Medicare, public roads, any public services, just to name a few. Everything I just named is socialism. The Tea Party complains about Obama being a socialist very loudly and some of it's members and leaders are on disability. What do you think disability is?

        What a bunch of rediculous hypocrites. Anybody who screams about socialism must refuse all of the programs name above or you are a royal @ss and you look like an ignorant fool.

        • 2 votes
        #1.22 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:10 PM EST

        T-Bone,

        thanks for showing us you cannot contribute to the discussion. Marx was a socialist. The first true communist ruler of Russia was Stalin.

        @alexin,

        So what if you are wrong? What then? Have you even considered that possibility? Or are you infatuated with your party, like many other Republicans, that you think there is no way any Republican can lose? If you assume something the outcome might shock you.

        • 1 vote
        #1.23 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:41 PM EST
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        Romney is probably going to get the nomination. And sometime around next summer, evangelicals are going to realize that if he wins he is likely to be innaugurated with his hand on the... book of mormon. They'll have to decide then whether politics or religion is more important to them in this decision. BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE '' JUST PLAIN GREEDY ''. jesus apparently didn't believe them ,when they said we need to steal from the dirt poor , and give to the filthy RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa heeeeeeeeeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee they're just greedeeeheeheeeeeee !!!!!!!!

        • 6 votes
        Reply#2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:07 AM EST

        most don't care.

        as long as it's not the koran most of us know the threat we face in Socialism is far greater than our religious differences.

        • 2 votes
        #2.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:17 AM EST

        No the greatest threat we face is that they continue to rob the middle class through taxes.

        • 11 votes
        #2.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:29 AM EST

        Vote the GOP Tea Retards back in and their will be no middle class, they will destroy what is left of us by them supporting the 1%.

        • 12 votes
        #2.3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:15 AM EST

        alexinPA

        most don't care.

        as long as it's not the koran most of us know

        How many of "us" know the Koran??

        • 3 votes
        #2.4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:26 AM EST

        "Is a Mormon a Citizen" ????????

        • 1 vote
        #2.5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:36 AM EST

        How many of us 'know' what socialism is, for that matter?

        Words don't matter. And neither do knowledge, facts, or the truth to some of us.

        • 4 votes
        #2.6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST

        Who says that Romney would be sworn in on the Book of Mormon? The LDS Church uses the Bible as well as Book of Mormon. To them the Book of Mormon is just another testiment, an extension of what already exists. And PA USA There are citizens in the LDS Church. The LDS Church began in the US by US citizens. Mormons are more involved in scouting and other civic American organizations than the general population. I am not a Mormon but have worked with them and they are tireless in what they do for civic organizations. Like any other group you have good ones, bad ones and those in between.

        • 2 votes
        #2.7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST

        baldeagle, well put.

        Like any other group you have good ones, bad ones and those in between.

        I consider Mitt Romney a bad one.

        Pay your TAXES, Mitt!

        • 4 votes
        #2.8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:36 PM EST

        to republicans or just plain greedy

        You're an idiot. Mormons use the bible just as much as the Book of Mormon. Many times they study it more. He would be sworn in using the bible.

        • 1 vote
        #2.9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:51 PM EST

        I would like to know, do Mormons believe in serving in the Armed Forces or like the Jehovah's witnesses they do not believe in fighting wars and just do missionary work.

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:16 AM EST

        TJL - Yes Mormons serve in the Armed Forces. A friend of mine served an LDS mission and then joined the Air Force. He's serving in Afghanistan now.

        • 2 votes
        #2.11 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:53 AM EST

        Religious Bigotry is exactly the same thing as racism. It comes from the same place in the mind and the heart.

        Are you telling me that Obama's friends in Solyndra who ripped us off for $530 million are not GREEDY or that Obama who gave them our money so they would give him campaign money is NOT Greedy.

        By the way have you noticed that MSNBC has not provided any coverage of Obama telling us that Jesus wants the rich to pay more in taxes? Gee I wonder why that is?

        • 1 vote
        #2.12 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:00 AM EST
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        I've lived in socialist countries with socialist leaders (not communist--socialist). They were admirably run, everyone had health care, there were few if any homeless, the disparity between rich and poor was relatively minimal. Believe me, whatever you think about the president, he ain't no socialist and the USA, sadly, ain't no socialist country...nor is ever likely to be because despite the claimed adherence to the words of one of histories great socialists--Jesus Christ--this country is not fueled by love and justice but by unalloyed greed.

        • 16 votes
        Reply#3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:30 AM EST

        Socialism has never worked anywhere it's been tried.

        why?

        you eventually run out of other people's money.

        the president is a SOCIALIST.

        • 5 votes
        #3.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:48 AM EST

        This is such trash for someone who is ill informed!!! You guys criticize Canada of having socialised medicine and education. Care to look at the statistics for Socialist Canada versus capitalist USA? Why is capitalist US losing so many jobs to socialist China? The very "job creators" who claim to hate the current "socialist" in the White House, have no problems investing in Maoist China!!!! What a revelation!!! Why not call it the way it is as Ali G would"...it is because I is BLACK". I rest

        • 11 votes
        #3.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:06 AM EST

        alexInPA has no idea what Socialism is. He's just repeating what he heard, just like a 3 year old.

        • 11 votes
        #3.3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:12 AM EST

        "GOP + Teapugs = Socialism"

        • 4 votes
        #3.4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:35 AM EST

        Bush2=Obama=Romney= socialist dictatorship

          #3.5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST

          Ruke - define Socialism for him.

          • 1 vote
          #3.6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM EST

          Actually socialism works fine in most of the world - there are socialist dictatorships and socialist democracy's, socialism is a form of Economics not government.. If all the Anti-socialists on this blog had gotten past 6th grade they would know the difference.

          There is a Country that has pure Capitalism, no welfare, no unemployment ins, no Government support, no environmental laws, no social security. Lots of natural recorces and lots of Oil and gold with a great climate. You can drive there, its called Mexico! A Teabagger Paradise!!

          • 5 votes
          #3.7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST

          Socialism: an economic and political system in which the government has sole ownership and control of the means of production and the distribution of capital, land, goods, and so on.

          • 2 votes
          #3.8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST

          Calling President Obama a "socialist" is every bit as dishonest and jingoistic as North Korea calling itself a "democratic republic".

          Some day the dittoheads are going to wake up and start thinking.

          • 5 votes
          #3.9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:32 PM EST

          Correct commonsense. You forgot one part - Socialism is "for the good of the people".

          What we are head into is a modified socialism - where government may not have the sole ownership - but is exercising, in some cases, sole control through regulation.

          This is why the confusion over the term. Even Nazi Germany, did not have sole ownership of all industries, but they did pretty much control them - with fear. What they did was take control of a few key plants in each industry, and the rest capitulated to Hitler's supremacy so they could keep their businesses.

          Banking and finance already quivers and capitulates to what the Fed wants. Now all of the health industry is worried and trying to keep themselves from going out of business or make themselves a target.

          So, when someone incorrectly identifies the system as socialist - they are half right - and anyone who says "no" is half wrong!

            #3.10 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:29 PM EST

            Peebal, you say "the disparity between rich and poor was relatively minimal" so that means I continue to work my a$$ off while others lay on their couch and watch Jerry Springer and the disparity between us will be minimal? If that is how you choose to live then move back to that country that was so "admirably run". I have no issue with taking care of our elderly or our veterans, but I am sick and tired of supporting people who are capable of supporting themselves. I believe that if you work hard and can pay for the things you want you shouldn't have to give away what you worked for. Just sayin.....

              #3.11 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:59 PM EST

              peebal - The sad thing is only 30% Americans have a passport and the ones who hold them I suspect are business personnel who travel overseas

              Versus 65% Germans and 60% Brittians have passports

              Problem with this country is they never got out of their backyard - have no clue how the western world lives worse than that don't care

              They live in a caccoon of their own making - so safe and if they do venture out - they take a cruise and think they saw the world

              Heys guys - rent a house in Italy - France - Germany - take your family - cheaper than hotels and god forbid you might learn something

              I did - took my children and grandchildren - what a wonderful adventure

                #3.12 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:56 AM EST
                Reply

                Go Ron Paul! You're the man! 2012 is yours for the taking!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:44 AM EST

                Groundhog said sex more weeks of Newt ? Hope !

                • 3 votes
                #4.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:40 AM EST

                Patriotic American U.S.A.

                A couple of honest 'cougars' put the kybosh on the Cain campaign. Perhaps a few patriotic cougars will do the Republican party another favor and put Newt's campaign in the ground - a couple of cougar kittens would REALLY do it.

                • 4 votes
                #4.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST

                JJ - RP's poll numbers are stagnant if not decreasing - except isolated against Obama. He is clse to dead heat numbers there. Don't get excited about a third party run - the Republican vote would mainly follow the Republican in with three candidates.

                  #4.3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM EST

                  Ron Paul and Libertarian Idiocy

                  Ron Paul and Libertarian Idiocy

                  BENEATH THE SPIN • ERIC L. WATTREE

                  Ron Paul is a typical demagogue. He specializes in combining fact with fiction, and pointing out everything that’s wrong with all of the policies that are contrary to his agenda. Then he claims that his irresponsible solution is a cure for all of our problems, which is an exercise in pure fiction. Paul is quoted as saying the following:“The most basic principle to being a free American is the notion that we as individuals are responsible for our own lives and decisions. We do not have the right to rob our neighbors to make up for our mistakes, neither does our neighbor have any right to tell us how to live, so long as we aren’t infringing on their rights. Freedom to make bad decisions is inherent in the freedom to make good ones. If we are only free to make good decisions, we are not really free.”

                  Paul’s entire premise is flawed. Total personal freedom was clearly not the intent of the founding fathers. They had the good sense to recognized that a society, or a civilization, as it were, is defined as a “GROUP of people who have joined together to pursue a common interest or goal,” and they clearly set out their intent in the preamble of the United States Constitution, which reads as follows:

                  We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare [not just make Ron Paul happy] and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

                  Thus, if Ron Paul doesn’t like the rules we’ve set up to “promote the general welfare,” he has the freedom to move to the wilderness and not live among us. But according Ron Paul’s philosophy, he thinks he should have the right to pee against the wall in the middle of Times Square during rush hour, and the government should be precluded from stopping him. Because you see, according to Paul’s philosophy, and his flawed reading of the United States Constitution, that should be his inalienable right, since he’s not hurting anyone else.

                  So in essence, Paul wants to have his cake and eat it to. He wants to take advantage of the benefits of living in an ordered society, while not having to adhere to the rules that make it a society. For example, he contends that the civil rights laws that prevent him from refusing to serve certain groups in his restaurant abridges his right to private ownership. But on the other hand, he has absolutely no problem with the fact that the group that he bans is forced to pay taxes that support “his right to private ownership.” If his business catches on fire, he’s going to expect the banned group’s tax supported fire department to come put it out. And if he’s robbed, he’s going to expect the group’s tax supported police department to come to his aid. But the fact is, he can’t have it both ways. If he’s not willing to adhere to society’s rules, he can’t expect to take advantage of the benefits of living in an ordered society.

                  Paul also wants to abolish the Department of Education, which is essential to maintaining a “more perfect union.” His philosophy also dictates that we should simply “trust” corporations not to grind up rats in our ground beef, or pollute our air and water. He says, “Just let the free market handle it.”

                  Well, that sounds like a plan, but we saw how the free market handled the Wall Street fiasco, didn’t we? The free market created it, and we paid for it – dearly. The only thing free about the free market is the freedom of ruthless and greedy capitalists to take advantage of a naive and unsuspecting public – and then they tell us we’er un-American if we complain about it.

                  Thus, Ron Paul’s philosophy represents the rantings of a selfish, unthinking, greedy, and totally irresponsible lunatic. Therefore, if he wants total personal freedom, it’s well within his grasp. He can vote with his feet and move to the wilderness. Then he can pee against any tree in the forest at will – but he shouldn’t expect us to come to his aid if a snake decides to latch on to his pecker. That’s the price of total freedom.

                  Eric L. Wattree

                  • 3 votes
                  #4.4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST

                  Paul will never get the GOP nomination.

                  He might as well declare a third party candidacy.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST

                  @baldeagle11, Wow! You have totally missed his message.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:46 PM EST

                  Quote from above^^^^^ the long winded one that is mostly full of______!

                  "The only thing free about the free market is the freedom of ruthless and greedy capitalists to take advantage of a naive and unsuspecting public – and then they tell us we'er un-American if we complain about it."

                  First the free market didnt create the W.S fiasco.....basically because the market hasn't been free for many many years, therefore a total impossiblitly! And more along the lines of the quote... If you believe that your so naive and unsuspecting that you need the government to tell you how to live because you just cant seem to figure it out on your own, then you have more problems to worry about! If one falls victim to the free market on the basis of being naive and unsuspecting....so be it....natural selection will prevail! Naive and unsuspecting..... holy crap man.....more like lazy and unwilling!

                    #4.7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:54 PM EST

                    Ron Paul could actually win as an Independent. In a three man race, he could get 20% from Independents, 10% from Republicans who realize he is the only true conservative running, and 5% from Democrats who figure out Obama does not equal change.

                    It is pretty simple. Ron Paul is running in the interest of the people. Everyone else is running for their special interests.

                      #4.8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 5:37 PM EST

                      According to the Washington Post today - Ron Paul and Mitt Romney have been close friends since 2008. The Post is asserting that Ron Paul and Mitt Romney have formed a league and that the campaigns have "frequent" calls between them.

                      Makes Sense - neither really directly attacks the other. Mitt wants to win and the easiest way to do that is let Ron Paul stay in the campaign and continue to bleed off 4 - 20 points of the conservative votes from Gingrich.

                      What do you say about that Ron Paul supporters?

                        #4.9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:34 PM EST

                        Paul will never get the GOP nomination. He might as well declare a third party candidacy.

                        Well, he probably won't, but it would be great fun for the Democrats if he did. As for being a "third party candidate", Ron Paul already tried that, twice, as the Presidential nominee of the Libertarian party, and that didn't get him very many votes.

                        Ron Paul is still a Libertarian at heart, he only joined the Republican party because they were organized enough to get him elected as Representative.

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                        #4.10 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:21 PM EST
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                        JJ--Your funny...

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                        Reply#5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:53 AM EST

                        But nowhere on foxnews.com do they report of the 8.3% unemployment rate. I tell you miss piggy was right about fox news. That it isn't about the news at all. And they haven't been reporting these severe winter weather in alaska & colorado or high temps elsewhere.

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                        Reply#6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:08 AM EST

                        Fox News is for uneducated trailer park trash !!!

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                        #6.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST

                        There's no such thing as Fox "News".

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                        #6.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:40 PM EST

                        commonsense - Why is Canada smarter than us - they won't even allow Fox being called as news?

                        oh I got it they bought the Republican party so they can be called news - also all the other newspapers and channels

                        We are for sale and Canada is not?

                          #6.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:03 AM EST
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                          Gingrich and former Pennsylvania senator Santorum, who only recently launched campaign operations in Nevada, have done little to appeal directly to church members. But their religious values — both are Catholics — could serve as a common ground with some Mormon voters who revere family and faith.

                          How would any group that reveres family and faith have common ground with a serial adulterer???

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                          Reply#7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:20 AM EST

                          Senate OK's insider trading ban to stop dirtbags like Newt ?

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                          #7.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:43 AM EST

                          insider trading ban to stop dirtbags like Newt

                          I think you better produce a link on that one. Searches aren't bringing even an mild criticism for doing him that.

                            #7.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:16 PM EST
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                            Pop,pop,pop. Now no teabagger on Capital Hill has a head on their shoulders after hearing this great news. They've thrown up every roadblock that they could think of to make the economy worst and it still doesn't work.

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                            Reply#8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST

                            Debt ≠ success

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                            #8.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:35 AM EST

                            I know lifelong Repubs who think the GOP Teapugs went to far and they are planning on jumping the ship.

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                            #8.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM EST

                            Patriot American - my husband was a lifelong Republican and jumped ship with Bush - we are still arguing about Reagan , but he is close to seeing the light

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                            #8.3 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:06 AM EST
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                            End the Fed

                            Ron Paul 2012

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                            Reply#9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:34 AM EST

                            alan _static - Get off of it - how old are you? Do you read if so read about The John Birch Society - read Ayn Rand's books - Paul named his son Rand Paul after her - then come back here and tell me how you fit into their ideology

                            PS The John Birch Society was founded by the Koch Brothers father - who amongst other things thought putting flouride in drinking water was a communist plot

                            And Ron paul was a guest speaker if theirs five times

                              #9.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:10 AM EST
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                              U.S. combat mission in Afghanistan will end 2013, this is very welcome news. But Romney said we need more blood. Mitt is a man of family values that said his sons will not go into the military.

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                              Reply#10 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:54 AM EST

                              The adminstration is backing off that one a bit.

                                #10.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                                And Romney himself fled the country to avoid military service.

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                                #10.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:43 PM EST
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                                Lets celebrate mediocrity today. The jobless rate is ONLY 8.3%!

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                                Reply#11 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:59 AM EST

                                Romney would be happier if it were higher.

                                He said the other day he wants to see a massive round of home foreclsures so that wealthy "investors" can buy up property more cheaply.

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                                #11.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST

                                T-Bone - Better than the 7,000,000 million jobs your boy lost and I'm sure Bush was your boy!

                                  #11.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:24 AM EST
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                                  After the Florida primary, Gov Romney once again proved that he is nothing more than the Slut of Satan who indirectly approves the use of dirty corporate money, deception, and outright lies to buy the Presidency from the people in the United States!

                                  Mitt, you are one sorry son of a bitch!

                                  Mormons (and all other denominational religions) who believe that they are following the word of God MUST understand exactly what God has warned people against in the following bible references from the NIV:

                                  Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

                                  Deuteronomy 12:32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.

                                  Proverbs 30:6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

                                  Revelation 22:7 "Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."

                                  Revelation 22:9 But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"

                                  Revelation 22:10 Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.

                                  Psalm 112:10 The wicked man will see and be vexed, he will gnash his teeth and waste away; the longings of the wicked will come to nothing.

                                  Matthew 8:12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

                                  Matthew 22:13 "Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

                                  Matthew 25:30 And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

                                  So, who will you follow?

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                                  Reply#12 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:04 AM EST

                                  Steve, you DO NOT have to resort to slander, name-calling, or foul language to get your point across. And while you are quoting scripture, you forgot one important one which I will use to answer your question "So, who will you follow?"

                                  Joshua 24:15: " ... Choose ye this day whom ye will serve, ... but as for me and my house we will serve the LORD."

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                                  #12.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST

                                  Steve

                                  Obama is probably more guilty when he stated that "Jesus would agree with raising taxes on the wealthy" and and using Luke 12:48 as backup. (to whom much is given, much will be required) - The passage was talking about God giving abilities to people and expecting a return for his kingdom. At that point God was actually talking about punishing people who did nothing with their abilities.

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                                  #12.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:21 PM EST

                                  (to whom much is given, much will be required) - The passage was talking about God giving abilities to people and expecting a return for his kingdom. At that point God was actually talking about punishing people who did nothing with their abilities.

                                  So, you're saying that if Mitt has the ABILITY to hide his great wealth so as to avoid paying taxes, he should or God will punish him?

                                  But if he has great wealth, he should just keep it all?

                                  America gave Mitt the ability to make great wealth, and has a right to expect a return.

                                  The REST of us are paying taxes, SO SHOULD MITT.

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                                  #12.3 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST

                                  Then Peter said, "Lord, is this parable meant for us or for everyone?"

                                  And the Lord replied, "Who, then, is the faithful and prudent steward whom the master will put in charge of his servants to distribute (the) food allowance at the proper time?

                                  Blessed is that servant whom his master on arrival finds doing so.

                                  Truly, I say to you, he will put him in charge of all his property.

                                  ....

                                  That servant who knew his master's will but did not make preparations nor act in accord with his will shall be beaten severely;

                                  and the servant who was ignorant of his master's will but acted in a way deserving of a severe beating shall be beaten only lightly.

                                  Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more.

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                                  #12.4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:07 PM EST

                                  No commonsense - I posted the complete passage in another section. I don't like to span like some other people - it really takes away from the system.

                                  BTW: the entire passage was about your responsibility to God "the Master" not the goverment. Obama did not give these people the wealth did he?

                                    #12.5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                                    Interesting list of verses, but lets see:

                                    Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

                                    Deuteronomy 12:32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.

                                    Proverbs 30:6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

                                    If we were to take those literally, we'd have to throw out the entire New Testament and a substantial portion of the Old Testament. More importantly, there are some 613 commandments listed in the Old Testament alone, most of which are nonsensical. I suspect few Christians could list even 100, let alone obey them all.

                                    Revelation 22:7 "Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."

                                    He's been "coming soon" for nearly 2,000 years, but "soon" is nowhere close to 1,979 years. So much for biblical literalism, he ain't coming back no matter what your preacher says.

                                      #12.6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:36 PM EST
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                                      Can anyone explain just why the baggers are so upset with the deficit? Their beloved VP Cheney said: "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Hey baggers, which one of you complained then? WHAT, none of you did? Then why complain now? And if solicalism doesn't work, research (if it's not too hard for you) what Norway, Sweden, Denmark have as a govt.

                                      And in reality, you have to love that pure BS slogan of "FAMILY VALUES." Newt, shacking up with an aide, while still married, not just ONCE, BUT AT LEAST TWICE. Probably still doing it. Then changes religion to make people think he has seen the LIGHT. What a f ing joke. And Mittens just needs to hid his money off shore? WHY, what is wrong with the banks here?

                                      Thanks baggers, one and all for handing Obama his second term.

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                                      Reply#13 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:09 AM EST

                                      We must never forget what "W" and the GOP did to this Nation.

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                                      #13.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST

                                      Because they are out of power.

                                      Don't forget, the Republican Party CREATED the deficit.

                                      They were handed a surplus and a booming economy, and decided that good times meant "don't save for a rainy day, give the money to the rich".

                                      THEN they went on a spending spree the likes of which the nation had never seen, and which we are STILL PAYING FOR, while we continue to give away money to the rich.

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                                      #13.2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 4:14 PM EST
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                                      Too many "Freudian Slips". Romney claims he "misspoke" per his comments that he does not really care about the poor. This along with his other "misspokes" are really part of his true thoughts. He can argue that these statements are taken out of context, but the fact that these statements are part of his lexicon and that he adds them to so many of his comments regardless of the phrases that follow get to the truth of this man. How many "mispokes" can be allowed before the true picture of his atticutes is revealed. He might as well as said "let them eat cake"

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                                      Reply#14 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:27 AM EST

                                      why does msnbc post stupid stuff on who will win saturday. Its a caucus state all delegates are non binding. You can win the vote and still lose the delegates. Please msnbc get your facts straight before writing this stuff. The vote has nothing to do with the delegates. Ron Paul will win more delegates in the end. Romney will win the vote. Also Ron Paul hasn't been courting votes. He has been courting delegates.

                                        Reply#15 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                        Vote Republican it's easier than thinking

                                          Reply#16 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 12:37 PM EST

                                          The one thing I never hear is "my mom/dad told me to always vote republican" stories from Republicans. What I overwhelmingly hear is "my mom/dad told me to always vote for the Democrats" from Democrats.

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                                          #16.1 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST
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                                          If Romney wins Nevada, Newt will try to send him to the moon.

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                                          Reply#17 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:53 PM EST

                                          This is the end of the "Tea-party" Mitt will not forget what they tried to do to him, the purge will come and it will not be from the Democrats. the Republicans can "take out the trash" all by themselves!!

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                                          Reply#18 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:23 PM EST

                                          Ruken - I will try to answer your question. Without looking it up, I remember that Socialism is when the government owns and/or controls the means of production. Does the US have socialism today? You bet. A few examples: NASA, the Center for Disease Control, the military, police and fire departments, public schools, highway departments, national and state parks, and VA hospitals (lowest overhead of all). If I took my time, I am sure I could come up with a lot more. What do you think? Pretty scary, right?

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                                          Reply#19 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:44 PM EST

                                          If you want to really get scared look at Europe where the policies that Obama is pursuing have been in place the longest. Where does socialism lead---to propsperity and success???? Better pull your head out of wheverever you have it hiddent and look up and take a look at the real world. Europe is on the verge of financial collapse. There are rights in Greece and Italy because those governments can no longer keep the promises they made to people in order to buy their votes. Spain, that wonderful example of how green energy was going to transform a country and create millions of Jobs now has 20% + unemployment and the government can't pay its bills. Why is it you people are completely unable to deal with reality. It is right in front of you. LOOK AT EUROPE. WHAT DO YOU SEE???? You can't continue to believe that Obama can do the same things that were done in Europe and have something different result. You are as dillusional as he is. At least he is telling the lie for a reason, he wants the eventual power and control that will result when the private sector collapses and we are all dependent on him for our monthly allowance, but what I can't figure out is Why you continue to believe this LIE, when you can see clearly the future that it produces. LOOK AT EUROPE.

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                                          #19.1 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 11:10 AM EST
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                                          Socialism, hmm, I'm trying hard to think of a republic that is NOT socialist, go on help me out!

                                            Reply#20 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST

                                            Catholic Church Appeals to American Parishioners to vote for GOP....

                                            The archdiocese of Milwaukee, on the final day of filing, admitted receiving 545 applications from clergy abuse victims. In a statement to Catholics nationwide, church leaders asked that American Catholics support the anti-abortion stance of the Republican Party. "Good Catholic families should keep reproducing....we're running out of abusable victims," Father McFeeley said.

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                                            Reply#21 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST

                                            NEWT GINGRICH CAMPAIGN CAUGHT IN VIRGINIA PETITION FRAUD CONSPIRACY! WOW! http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/gingrich-campaign-caught-virginia-vote-fraud-conspiracy

                                            The most comprehensive Ron Paul, Iowa vote fraud article EVER written! If we don’t do something about this we are all in HUGE trouble! PLEASE get this article to ALL four corners of the internet! DO NOT let this one go unnoticed by ANYONE! http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/iowa-vote-fraud-official

                                              Reply#22 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:47 PM EST

                                              Amid the glitter of Las Vegas casinos, Trump declared that Romney, whom he often criticized in the past, is "not going to allow bad things to continue to happen to this country we all love."

                                              Romney then took the podium and announced the cancellation of "The Apprentice" by telling Trump, "You're fired AND you're getting a haircut".

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                                              Reply#23 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:48 PM EST

                                              Fascism is also been known to harbor Socialism. The NAZI brand of Fascism is a corporatocrisy where Corporations are the beneficiaries of the Socialism not necessarily the people.

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                                              Reply#24 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST

                                              Romney's on a roll....

                                              So, when do we get to see those previous years tax returns???? You know, the ones he filed BEFORE he decided that he was going to run for President..............

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                                              Reply#25 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 3:56 PM EST
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