Spielberg, labor union are Obama backers; PAC raises less than GOP

NBC's Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff takes a look at the released information on Super PAC fundraising and donors. Romney donors include Wall St. hedge fund managers and a Koch brother.

By Bill Dedman, msnbc.com, and Michael Isikoff, NBC News
with reporting by NBC's Azriel Relph and Lisa Riordan Seville

Hollywood director Steven Spielberg and the Service Employees International Union were among the big donors to a Super PAC supporting President Barack Obama. Priorities USA Action filed the report Tuesday with the FEC showing $4.4 million raised to support the president's re-election.

Spielberg chipped in $100,000, and the SEIU gave the largest amount,  $1 million.

The total contributions to Priorities USA Action are, however,  far less than those being raised by the Super PACs for the Republican candidates and appear to put the group well behind its initial goal of raising $100 million on behalf of the president's re-election.

But there are signs that the Obama Super PAC is being financed by a related non-profit group that is in turn raising money from secret donors. Such non-disclosing political entities were denounced in 2010 by President Obama. But in Tuesday night's filing, the pro-Obama Priorities USA Action reported that it has gotten $215,234 from its non-disclosing sister group, Priorities USA, listing the funds as reimbursements for its operating expenses. As a nonprofit, Priorities USA is not required to file any public reports with the Federal Election Commission.

Proirities USA Action and Priorities USA, which has already begun running attack ads on Mitt Romney,  were founded last year by two former Obama White House aides -- former deputy press secretary Bill Burton and political aide Sean Sweeney. Burton said in an email to NBC News that the two groups Priorities groups together have now raised a total of $6.7 million, adding: "I have no doubt we'll raise our goal. The question is when we'll raise it."

The SEIU, which organizes workers in government jobs, health care and property services, has been a strong supporter of Obama. Its leaders have been named among the most frequent visitors to the White House, when the Obama administration released most of its visitor logs.

Other donors to the Obama Super PAC include:

 The American Association for Justice PAC has contributed a total of $50,000 to the PAC, and has also given a total of $100,000.00 to the House Majority PAC, which supports Democrats.

John C. Law is the managing director of Warland Investments, a major landowner in Cypress, Calif. He has given $100,000 to Priorities USA, and is a big donor to Democratic political causes.

Akerman Senterfit is a law and lobbying firm with locations throughout the U.S. Records show $20,000 going to Priorities USA from the firm, and another $10,000 from Joseph L. Falk, who specializes in the mortgage banking industry at the firm.

William E. Little Jr. gave $150,000. He is chairman of George Little Management, LLC, a large producer of trade shows for consumer goods in the United States, and a Bates College trustee.

Lenny Mendonca gave $50,000. He is a direcdtor in the San Francisco office of McKinsey & Co., chairman emeritus of the Bay Area Council, and chairman of the Bay Area Council Economic Institute. He is the former chair of Repair California, the organization behind the call for a limited Constitutional Convention to address the structural elements that have made governing California so difficult. He serves on the board of The New America Foundation.

The full list is here.

Tuesday is the day for the so-called Super PACS to file an annual report of donors. NBC News and msnbc.com will be scouring the filings, and posting details. We'll have updates on msnbc.com, and could always use your help identifying the economic and political interests behind the names.

The political action committees must disclose by midnight tonight who gave them money, and how much they spent to support or oppose candidates in the presidential race, including the Republican candidates and President Obama as well.

The official deadline for filing is midnight ET (12 a.m. Wednesday), so reports may trickle in. And it wouldn't surprise us if some campaigns file late tonight as attention is focused on voting results in the Florida Republican primary.

Super PACS are known to the Federal Election Commission as independent committees, because they are forbidden to coordinate their activities with campaigns. Outside the limits of campaign finance laws, Super PACs may raise unlimited sums of money from corporations, unions, associations and individuals. They can use that money to advocate for or against political candidates.

Read more about the reports filed Tuesday:

After TV cameras leave, Romney PAC discloses $18 million

Perry PAC's $1 million donor got help with nuclear waste dump

Major GOP Super PAC raised $51 million in 2011

Not 'Desperate' for cash: Obama lists his big fundraisers

Sugar Daddy: Huntsman's father gave $1.9 million to Super PAC

Colbert Super PAC raises $1 million; non-satirical PACs to follow

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Comment author avatarManiacmuddExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

to you right sided fools...keep bashing the unions..if not for them YOU would be working 120 hours a week for 10cents an hour because thats how your gods the 1 percenters would treat you. As far as I'm concerned, you freaks should have to do just that!

  • 27 votes
#1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:01 PM EST
Comment author avatarbigbenalaskaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Who are you trying to kid....minimum wages are set , and it's not 10 cents an hour.....

Big unions are like having 2 groups of executives....

The companies executives and the unions executives....

The hard workers or laborers have to support them both......

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:05 PM EST

Oh, Gosh. You mean big unions are backing Oblama?? Will miracles never cease.

Workers, press on throwing your money at your union executives. Corporate jets? Check out your bosses.

And the 1%? Guess who falls in that category, workers. Bet it ain't you. Again, check out your bosses.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:17 PM EST

bigbenalaska: The GOP is working on that pesky minimum wage for you as you speak.

Spielberg: C'mon! You're worth more then that! Give until it matters!

Go unions, and middle class America!

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:19 PM EST

Well, who wudda thought ..... SEIU / Unions.

Expect more donations on the way since:

SEIU / Unions campaign contributions = MORE legislation for UNIONS = More Union Dues = Less voice from UNION members.

Guess SEIU better get with Ex-Acorn to figure out a way to skirt the ballot boxes. Wait a minute...a lot of States have already passed legislation for anyone to "register", without identification, on the last day of voting and to vote on that very same day.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:29 PM EST

"Go New England Patriots"...ooops

Down with big unions.......nothing but employee blood suckers..

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:30 PM EST

your argument is 40 years old. unions do nothing but protect weak employees on the backs of good employees. i've witnessed it first hand.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:35 PM EST

bigbenalaska - aren't you one of those that gets a subsidy from BIG OIL? Don't mind that do you?

And yet you continue to post about anyone else getting any sort of a benefit

Don't you call that Hypocritical? Or is it just for or nobody else?

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:59 PM EST

BEN: And who the hell do you think created the minimum wage??? And what political party has tried for decades to resist wage increases as well as kill it off completely. You have 3 guesses. Let's see how sharp you are.

Do you like a 40 hour work week, paid vacations, workers compensation, sick leave, etc., etc.??? If so, thank the unions.

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:06 PM EST

Remember! Vote early and vote often.

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:10 PM EST

F**K your SuperPAC

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:28 PM EST

Maniacmudd

Hmmm, nothing else to add, name speaks for itself.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:32 PM EST

Obama Super-Pac has raised 4.4 million (1 million from 1 union, singular), and Romney Super-Pacs have raised 18 million - most from the financial community - and you are b*itching about Obama??? It's self-defense, pure and simple. Where are the gripes about Romney? Or, are you just paid trolls?

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:37 PM EST

Dems Super Pacs will be dwarfed by GOP monied donors. Spielberg's $100,000 donation will be dwarfed by five or ten million dollar individual donations by GOP supporters like just one monied Gingrich supporter. And unions are running out of money. Like a game of no-limit Hold-Em, whoever has the most money usually wins the cash. Guess who?

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:48 PM EST

Do you like a 40 hour work week, paid vacations, workers compensation, sick leave, etc., etc.??? If so, thank the unions.

Thank you, unions. We appreciate what you have given us. Now get lost! You don't serve any use anymore. You are now a DRAIN on the economy and are responsible for much of government (especially states) financial problems.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:09 AM EST

jayz,

And who's fault is it that unions have run out of money? Might they have squandered that money on big compensations for its executives? Hasn't the union leaders already sucked enough dues out of its rank and file members over the years?? One thing you never see posted is the salaries of the union leaders. Why is that? Everyone else makes a big deal about CEO's and their salaries and bonuses, but what about these union leaders? How come there isn't one peep about what they earn? I know first hand from the company I work for that the union that is in our plant their leaders were just recently convicted of misuse of funds...their punishment? No jail time, of course, and they weren't even ejected from the union. Their only punishment? Banished from holding an elected position within the union for five years...

    #1.15 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:13 AM EST

    So much for all the right-wing arguments that "Dems do it, too!" Look at the $$$ being contributed by single donors to the GOP ($10 million to Gingrich from casino mob boss Sheldon Adelson alone).

    And Romney's bought out the wazoo by every slimey industry tycoon out there (especially the financial industry):

    The Romney Super PAC collected seven $1 million donations, including one from Paul Singer, the billionaire and secretive head of the Elliott Management hedge fund, and two others from hedge fund kingpins Julian Robertson of Tiger Management and Robert Mercer of Rennaissance Technologies.

    Others accounting for $1 million donations included Florida energy executive Bill Koch of Oxbow Carbon, who has also been a fundraiser for Romney's presidential campaign; Miguel Fernandez, who chairs a Miami private equity firm MBF Healthcare Partners; and Rooney Holdings of Tulsa Oklahoma.

    Also giving a total of $1 million were firms headed by Frank L. VanderSloot of Idaho. His firms, operating under the names Melaleuca Inc., Melaleuca of Asia Ltd. Co., Melaleuca of Japan Inc., Melaleuca of Southeast Asia Inc., gave a total of $250,000. The company sells Nicole Miller Timeless Age Defying Serum and other home "wellness" remedies. Forbes magazine has a profile of VanderSloot here.

    Three executives of Bain Capital, the private equity firm formerly headed by Romney, gave a total of $625,000.

    Now what do you think this crowd wants for their money, eh?

    • 3 votes
    #1.16 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:23 AM EST

    Thanks to Teapublican "strategery" to destroy unions and therefore backing for Democratic candidates... Teapublican's only hope is to win with machinations instead of merit, but voters will see through it all.

    Obama/Biden - 2012!

    • 4 votes
    #1.17 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:23 AM EST

    From the Washington Post:

    Obama outpaces GOP rivals — and his own 2008 results — in small donations

    Even with low approval ratings and an uncertain path to reelection, President Obama is exceeding expectations in one area: His campaign is doing far better at attracting grass-roots financial support this year than his Republican rivals or his own historic effort in 2008, according to new contribution data.

    The sheer scale of small donations, totaling $56 million for Obama and his party, has surprised many Democratic strategists and fundraisers, who feared that a sour economy would make it difficult for Obama to raise money from disenchanted and cash-strapped voters.

    A Washington Post analysis shows that nearly half of his campaign contributions, and a quarter of the money he has raised for the Democratic Party, has come from donors giving less than $200. That's much higher than it was in 2008 and far beyond what the best-funded Republicans have managed.

    Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, the leading GOP fundraisers, have embraced a traditional approach, focusing on big-dollar contributors who can fill coffers without the high overhead costs of a campaign targeting small donations, the analysis shows.

    Power to the people! (not corporate "people") Power to the people!

    • 3 votes
    #1.18 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:01 AM EST

    First

    How is that OWS thing working for you First?? Have you been to jail yet to visit you buddies??

    Oh,I know they're just the poor depressed and down trodden who only wanted a better life for everyone by breaking into the Oakland City Hall.

      #1.19 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:20 AM EST

      Who the heck cares which candidate Spielberg supports? Why is is that the media think that we should care what anyone from Hollywood thinks? Newsflash...those of us who are not actors, celebrities, etc., are fully capable of thinking for ourselves and don't need to be told who to support.

        #1.20 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:48 AM EST

        isacaugh is an obama shill, where is the reporting on the pac that includes soros and comcast?

        Of all the disgusting union's out there none could be more despicable that seiu!!!

        Eliminate all public unions and make all states "Right to Work"

        • 1 vote
        #1.21 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:17 AM EST

        Not restoring comment # 1.

        to you right sided fools

        This is a terrible way to start a thread. Maniacmudd, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.

        Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

        • 1 vote
        #1.22 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:06 PM EST
        Reply

        I thought we were in a time of high deficits and unemployment?? It's nice to see a single public union has $1 million dollars to throw around (and that is the tip of the iceberg for SEIU 'donations'). Unions should of learned to get out of politics in the last election, this time around they're really going to ruffle the dander of the American taxpayer.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:12 PM EST

        I am sure that all those union workers who are struggling to get by are happy to know that their union dues are being used to give millions of dollars to politicians. I am sure that the union members would rather have part of their dues back to put food on their table and pay their bills instead of watching it go to support crooked politicians who will say anything to get your money and your vote.

        • 11 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:27 PM EST

        Obama's stimulus put $600 billion into the hands of municipal unions.

        • 6 votes
        #2.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM EST

        No Unions know that if another Republican get's voted in, more Union bashing and more trying to take away collective bargaining, you know like Gov Walker. There not morons, who listen to faux noise etc. Many Republicans are Union workers! The big bad unions, oh my! LOL!

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:26 AM EST

        Hate to break it to you guys, but those of us in SEIU actually contribute (voluntarily!) to a fund for political action for working middle-class people like us. Sorry, not only multi-billionaires and corporations get to play.

        They call it "collective action" for a reason.

        OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!!!!!!

        • 5 votes
        #2.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:29 AM EST

        isacaugh is an obama shill, where is the reporting on the pac that includes soros and comcast?

        Of all the disgusting union's out there none could be more despicable that seiu!!!

        Eliminate all public unions and make all states "Right to Work"

        • 1 vote
        #2.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:24 AM EST

        Gee could this be the payback for for excluding unions from having to pay taxes on caddillac health plans!

        • 1 vote
        #2.6 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:58 AM EST
        Reply

        This is news? No one is surprised about this statement. Mr.Obama is a liberal president. His support comes from the typical typical sources.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:07 PM EST

        There's something wrong when Unions are allowed to take corporate money (union dues), and then use

        it to play politics , which is not in the corporations' best interest.usually against corporations.

        And, When will the workers Wake Up and realize they're paying WAY too much union dues if unions have $1 MILLION to play politics with, too.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:08 PM EST

        it's worse when they take tax payer money and funnel it back to the democrats that gave it to them.

        • 6 votes
        #4.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM EST

        Yea, and it really sucks that folks like the Koch Brothers (founders of the John Birch Society, nutcases if there ever was one) can buy off the entire GOP Congress, right fellas?

        • 9 votes
        #4.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:07 PM EST

        paul-440967 There's something wrong when Unions are allowed to take corporate money (union dues), and then use it to play politics

        But it's OK for corporations to donate that kind of money - you two faced troll.

        • 10 votes
        #4.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:41 PM EST

        Where do you think all those hedge fund managers and investment brokers contributing to Romney get it, eh?

        From the money you pay your bank, every credit card transaction you make, every financial transaction you're involved in for the rest of your life.

        It's just that you get your tax bill all nicely laid out for you once a year. These guys pick it out of your pocket every day and you don't even know. If you got a yearly statement breaking down who gets your money, you'd understand how they're sucking you dry and using it to buy your government.

        • 5 votes
        #4.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:05 AM EST

        Union dues cannot be spent on political campaigns. Union PAC contributions come from voluntary member contributions. Uninformed individuals who oppose anti-collective bargaining don't like the idea of workers gathering their resources to compete with wealthy business interests.

        • 3 votes
        #4.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:26 AM EST

        Invisible Hand is correct. Those who think Union dues go to political campaigns are just wrong. Corporations want more money for their off shore accounts so they attack unions indirectly through lobbying and creating these huge superpacs to elect politicians who will do their will. Unions are the backbone of the middle class. Many middle class workers in most states have no rights. It is only when people come together in the workplace do workers gain rights. This is why many union members give to Obama and to superpacs for Obama. It is a fight for workplace fairness.

        • 3 votes
        #4.6 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:42 AM EST
        Reply

        and I thought it was just the little people that support Mr. Obama. Silly me, Hollywood and the Unions spend big money. Now, I believe they have the right to do this, but please don't anyone try to insult peoples intelligenceand say that Hollywood isn't biased. The movies produced and the television that is presented is seguedto the left, it's just a fact of life. I wonder what would happen to the silver screen and the tube if there ever was a "fairness doctrine"?

        • 4 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:24 PM EST

        Will Spielberg produce the attack ads now that he is retiring from Hollywood?

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:26 PM EST

        No, but it is likely he'll produce a positive bio on Obama.

          #6.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:27 AM EST
          Reply

          Now that we have these Superpacs running the election we can pretty much say for sure that it will be the one percenters, Big Oil and big corporations picking our politicians from now on. The middle class has lost its voice. These people dont want our measly contributions when they can now collect unlimited millions and millions from the only people that will benefit from elections in the future. Our Democracy died with that Supreme Court ruling.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:30 PM EST

          It's not dead yet, guy.

          The Democrats still get far more of their contributions in small amounts from individuals than the GOP, and the money they get from big donors pales in comparison to the wads flung at the Republicans.

          See post #1.18, and take a hard look at the amounts taken in by Obama's PAC and Romney's. Romney had seven contributors of over $1 million each. And Gingrich has gotten $10 MILLION just from one donor (Sheldon Adelson).

          • 3 votes
          #7.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:08 AM EST
          Reply

          What a surprise, unions plowing their members hard earned money into Obama's bucket. As more and more companies move more and more work overseas, unions continue to blame it on everyone but themselves. The fact is unions will ultimately cause the end of all manufacturing in the U.S.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:34 PM EST

          at the same time unions, liberal media, and democrats will keep blaming republicans and corporations, and the liberal fools will believe them.

          • 3 votes
          #8.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM EST

          I belong to a law enforcement union...won't say which...but I agree that unions, beyond their already notorious reputations, are in bed with not only mobs, but with the Govt. as well!! LMAO they say just because your paranoid/suspicious doesn't mean your paranoid and suspicious. I KNOW THAT MADE SENSE *looks over shoulder*

          • 2 votes
          #8.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:50 PM EST

          LUVHEAT: You belong to a law enforcement union??? Tell me, do you accept all the added benefits that your union has won for it's members, or are you such a man (or woman) of principle that you refuse acceptance of them??

          Tell you this much, if you ever got into a jam and were accused of any form of misconduct by either a citizen or your superiors, tell me that you wouldn't run straight to your union for legal support.

          • 6 votes
          #8.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:10 PM EST

          In Dc MPD officers are over 100k after 5 years. like all unions there is some purpose to the police union but also like all unions they defend members who should be terminated and secure grossly inflated salaries for their members.

          • 2 votes
          #8.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:47 PM EST
          Reply

          Sure makes me wonder why spielberg would endorse anyone this early unless he has already received major dividends from Obama

          • 1 vote
          Reply#9 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:43 PM EST

          LUV: Geez, I dunno. Perhaps, just perhaps that he, as one of Hollywoods greatest geniuses is a Liberal and actually supports the ideals that Obama fights for???

          You'll notice that 90% of the truly talented people in Hollywood, the arts, science, etc. are LIBERALS.

          • 7 votes
          #9.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:12 PM EST
          Reply

          The SEIU, which organizes workers in government jobs, health care and property services, has been a strong supporter of Obama.

          You scratch my back................................

          • 2 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:45 PM EST

          This has to stop. The only way to stop is if the President is a one term 6 year President and will not be able to run after the 6 years is over. The money race is obscene!

          • 1 vote
          Reply#11 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:56 PM EST

          SALLY: Go tell it to the GOP controlled Supreme Court. They're the geniuses that opened the floodgates of outside money. Guess we're too stupid to do what many European countries do, publicly finance campaigns, allowing no private funding and limit the length of them to a few months instead of this nauseating circus, which goes on forever.

          • 6 votes
          #11.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:15 PM EST

          If any one other than Ron Paul run against Obama, Obama wins-he represents the 1%, not the unions.

            #11.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:39 AM EST
            Reply

            unions kill jobs. plain and simple. they inflate prices and cause taxes to go up. These arent the unions of the 20s looking to improve working conditions and safety codes, todays unions are looking to suck the most money for the least amount of work out of government. when was the last time you heard of a major public project coming in on time and below initial estimates?

            • 5 votes
            Reply#12 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:08 PM EST

            SLIGHT: Yea, they inflate prices. Let's do away with all unions and enact a working structure like China has. Bet that would warm your conservative heart, huh? That way, people can labor 12 hours a day for 50 cents an hour.

            When was the last time you heard of a military contractor not hosing the American taxpayer by having their weapons system going 2 or 3 times over budget??? Go research the latest F-35 Strike Fighter. Now the estimated final cost will be ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. While you're at it, go and research the Battle of Blair Mountain as well The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire. If you have any reading comprehension at all, you'll find out why unions were and are necessary.

            Timeto get an education buddy and lay off the tired GOP talking points.

            • 6 votes
            #12.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:19 PM EST

            well thank you for taking the low road and calling me uneducated. I also thank you for assuming that Im in support of military programs regardless of if they are on time or on budget. I actually think that in all contracts, be they in the private sector or government contracts, the wording should stipulate that there is a penalty for every period that the project goes over what the contractors said it would take. Any additional costs should be paid by the winning bidder. There were literally dozens of bridge construction workers working on the Verazano bridge in ny who were making more that 200k a year by billing more hours than there are in a year. Unions have long passed their usefulness. There are courts to deal with discrimination, wrongful termination, etc. There are also federal mandates regarding the hours one may work in the week. I dont think that we will have to worry about becoming like china. Go ask GM how the unions helped them out. Go see how detroit is doing, go and visit the pedephiles and criminals who have tenure in NYC so they hang out all day reading and watching tv in the "blue room" while still getting paid and then come to me with a valid arguement that doesnt make any assumptions about my stances on other various BS situations and contracts involving our government.

            • 4 votes
            #12.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:43 PM EST

            Let's do away with all unions and enact a working structure like China has. Bet that would warm your conservative heart, huh? That way, people can labor 12 hours a day for 50 cents an hour.

            If you have any reading comprehension at all, you'll find out why unions were and are necessary.

            Unions have had their day. They are no longer necessary. There's no evidence whatsoever for your claims. You can thank a Right-to-Work state for proving that. While they have lower salaries, they have much lower cost-of-living expenses proving unions inflate prices.

            Since they are no longer effective in the private sector, unions have moved to the public sector where they now have WAY too much influence on governments and taxes. Check out the MSNBC article that shows the public sector now pays MORE than the private sector for the SAME work...

            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46194863/ns/business-us_business/t/federal-workers-make-more-same-job/#.TyjMTFzldGR

            • 2 votes
            #12.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:23 AM EST

            Rational one- First a name change, is in order. Yes it does cost more to pay people's insurance, vacations etc, so what. You have Corporations like IBM laying off full time employee's and hiring them back as contractors, saves them from paying the health Ins,sick pay, vacations, holidays etc, and at the end of every quarter, they are forced to take time off, some 40hours, so the numbers look better. How would like to be forced to take a week off, without pay! All while making record profits!

            • 1 vote
            #12.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:37 AM EST

            Right to work states also have the right to fire you for any reason. They seem to forget that point.

            • 1 vote
            #12.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:38 AM EST
            Reply

            No amount of money will ever get me to vote for NOBAMA! :)

            • 1 vote
            Reply#13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:08 PM EST

            Interesting, Speilberg supports Obama, and gives chump change. Spielberg's last few movies, Flops, Last tv Series Flop, Marriage Flop, As much as I'd like to see him do well (as he did some years ago) Let's be realistic, Birds of a Feather Flock together... Rich 1%ers like Obama, and Spielberg continue to roll, while the rest of us rot ( in that Union produced work place) in that federal minimum wage, work hour limit, while every other country in the world still work a normal 6 day work week, and we fall farther and farther behind.

            (See Apple, and the reason they are staying OFF Shore- Direct from the mouth of Steve Jobs himself-prior to his death) Are they really more skilled than we are in those 3rd world countries, or when he gathers up 3000 workers to change the ipod in a week, can he just get people who are happy to be working instead of occupying public parks, breaking into buildings, or pis#in in the park. We who value college so much, we forgot what it's like to do manual labor, and heaven forbid we should let our children learn that menial work that gets one hands dirty, filthy, or sore by the end of the day is the wrong way?

            Yes UNIONS, you did such a good job at changing the work force, and penetration of the job market, now we have 3000 applicants in 3 piece suits applying for 3 jobs to weld circuits together for 12-15$ an hour, with 4-8 year college degrees. Yes UNIONS serve you so well, In fact they are a FOR PROFIT organization. That means most unions are the corporations that so many people are protesting against, for creating class disparity.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#14 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:20 PM EST

            Can someone tell me what I just read?

            Okay. I think we get your point that you don't like unions. But you don't seem educated enough to know why they are here, or how they came about. I suggest keep watching Faux and stay off of here, or go back and re-read history. Then come back.

              #14.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:42 AM EST

              Dave, such young innocence in your speech. Short of the MAFIA draw that perverted the Unions, and gave us the break down of the (true working class), lets take a close look, HISTORICALLY what the Unions Changed. 1. They moved child labor out of the factories, That's nice. Children should be in School, and recieve good education, WAIT, The UNION has teachers that can't be fired, because of Tenure, There are specific locations that they send the Pedophile, Criminal Teachers within the UNION Calle Rubber Rooms, AT TAX PAYER EXPENSE, hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/02/26/rubber-rooms-redux-teachers-unions-and-taxpayers/

              2. They moved us to a 40 hour work week, That's nice. Families should have time for their loved ones. Except, well Coal Miners still do about 60 hours a week, The Shifts that come and go in the KC Chevy Plant are 10 hour shifts (45 working), and the Unions pretty much followed a Strong Arm TACTIC as the Wealthiest Unions CEO's Stopped work at any plant (outside of their own) through illegal methods, including Violence, 1886-1894 and the first loss of personal freedom and personal property owership rights (you know the ones the OWS crowd is fighting for now) and please when you read this page NOTE the huge section from Socialism, as it began its takeover of Corporate America. en.citizendium.org/wiki/History_of_U.S._labor_unions

              3. They are guaranteeing UnSkilled workers Jobs. Not in their Rank and File, as they only want those who have the skill do perform the job, (which must be learned at a Vo Tech, College, or other further education place, While not bad in itself, Again, 3000 Suits applying for 3 Welding Jobs) And of course, In the Case of APPLE, and the other Corporations, CHINA, INDONESIA, Where that labor is going to ANYONE who stands in line for 3$ a day, While our NEEDY College Degree Welders In the UNION need 35 an Hour to do the Same Job, and feed the Corporate Pockets making 28,000 an Hour (CEO Walmart, Sears, Bank of AMERICA, INTEL, or the others that you may research in your spare time.)

              Once again, The unions are a for profit organization, Their CEO's are in the 1%, as are most of the ranking officers. Even down to the Shop Stewards, WHO MAY Be making that 250,000 a year, that Obama said he should tax, but The same Rank and FILE unions want Mr. Obama to be their man, when in Fact, It should be NO poli (TICS) ian. If the unions can fix that, without making the President a KING, Then I'll agree that Historically, Unions are beneficial, After all the European Union is working so well right now , I mean Isn't it?

                #14.2 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 9:08 PM EST
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                If all union workers across the country, including the oil workers unions, the GOP might want to think twice about killing the unions. It could happen.

                  Reply#15 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:34 PM EST

                  Maniacmudd you and Spielberg are both D-Bags. Super 8 sucked. I love it how more liberals act like children on these posts than the right wingers. I guess when you're an ass you can say anything

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                  Reply#17 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:20 AM EST

                  janman- LMAO Your post was really mature, or manure!

                    #17.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:40 AM EST
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                    "But...but...what about the unions?" What about the unions? Unions get their money from working Americans. Why does the GOP hate working Americans?

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                    Reply#18 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:49 AM EST

                    Unions get their money from members they hold hostage!!!

                    Eliminate all public unions and make all states "Right to Work"!!!

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                    #18.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:22 AM EST
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                    GOPers support the rich and the working class is not their priorities. And we, 99%, will send the message to GOPers in the 2012 Presidential Election.

                    We will continue to vote for President Obama until GOPers come back to their conscience.

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                    Reply#19 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:55 AM EST

                    I am a secret donator: I gave $20.

                    Romney's tax "plan" will raise my taxes and lower his from a paltry 14% to to 0%!

                    I am, apparently, the lower 46%. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/01/15/business/one-percent-map.html

                    If you not the top 1% then pitch in to defeat Willard "Mitt" Romney and his brand of vulture capitalism.

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                    Reply#20 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:03 AM EST

                    Unions? Why do they oppose right to work laws? ... Because they can't compete with skill and dedication. Unions oftentimes protect the incompetent; I've seen that first-hand at universities. Public unions and teachers' unions are bankrupting the country, and robbing the citizens and students.

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                    Reply#21 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:00 AM EST

                    "Right to Work Law" is a misnomer. Why are average wages lower in states that have them than in states that don't?

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                    #21.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:37 AM EST

                    They tell you in the right to work state (Texas), that you have every right to work the job and quit at any time. They also say they have the right to fire you for ANY reason. That's the 'right to work' part they concentrate on.

                      #21.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:49 AM EST
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                      For nearly 3 years we have heard Barack Hussein Obama blasting the Supreme Court and the Super PAC's as not right or "fair". Yet, here we see BHO and his supporters doing the very same thing. Another example of telling the people one thing and his doing the very same thing.

                      As for BHO Great Lie. Visit the IRS Website. The latest figures available are for 2009. FYI - of the 3,000,000 richest Americans, 99.1% pay Obamas "Fair Share". That means only 9 tenths of 1 percent did not pay their "Fair Share". Or, approx 27,000 people.

                      Now, when are the 46,000,000 that pay no taxes going to start paying their "Fair Share"? The answer is never ... unless we can change the entire tax code to make it "Fair" for everyone. Until then, Obama's Class-warfare continues ...

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                      Reply#22 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:13 AM EST

                      This type of story wont exist on here when BHO's financiers becomes public..........He is owned by the unions and has Hollyweird as his publicist.

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                      #22.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:55 AM EST

                      When Republicans take advantage of the Citizens United ruling, what are the President's supporters supposed to do? NOT compete on an equal footing?

                      Grow up, Time4aPurge.

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                      #22.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:32 AM EST
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                      What, you didn't think the GOP were the only ones good at raising secret monies did you?

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                      Reply#23 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:03 AM EST

                      When Republicans take advantage of the Citizens United ruling, what are the President's supporters supposed to do? NOT compete on an equal footing?

                      Grow up, FactOfTheMatter.

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                      #23.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:33 AM EST

                      Grow up, FactOfTheMatter.

                      I actually didn't say anything with regard to a values statement on whether this was right or wrong...but you automatically assumed it was a negative. I for one don't have a problem with the Super PACs, and it should hardly be surprising that politicians are doing what politicians do...play politics.

                      So rather than making assumptions about people, maybe you should act a little more mature before jumping to conclusions.

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                      #23.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:23 PM EST
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                      Goodie for us!!

                        Reply#24 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:48 AM EST

                        It just goes to show you that efforts to buy the Presidency are ongoing on both sides of the fence - this will never end - the common man does not stand a chance in politics.

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                        Reply#25 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:34 AM EST

                        we need to get money out of politics. this is crazy. altho now it will be funny to watch all the republicans come on here and say how obama is raising secret money when the GOP has been doing that through the chamber of commerce for years.

                          Reply#26 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:07 AM EST

                          It's truly Amazing how low comrade obama's troll's will stoop below his belt, to TRY and get him re-elected!!!

                            #26.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:19 AM EST
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