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Subscribe to RSSWith just days to go before the Sunshine state's key primary, Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich clashed in a contentious debate Thursday night. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
Updated at 10:30 pm ET
Republican rivals Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney clashed early and often Thursday night over issues ranging from immigration and personal wealth to the various charges that have been fired in television ads and on the campaign trail as they conducted their final face-to-face confrontation Tuesday’s winner-take-all primary in Florida.
After a strong win by Gingrich in South Carolina, the stakes for the two leading candidates are high five days before Florida Republicans get their chance to cast their ballots -- and the increasing tension in the campaign has reflected that.
Both candidates were quick to press their attacks against the other, but the debate lacked a single melodramatic moment that a few previous debates had when Gingrich galvanized the crowd by lashing out at the news media.
Rep. Ron Paul of Texas and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum were also on stage, but were mostly overshadowed by the increasingly fractious Romney-Gingrich struggle.
Gingrich was asked about the pledge that he made to voters on Florida’s Space Coast on Wednesday, “By the end of my second term, we will have the first permanent base on the moon,” he said. Gingrich also was asked about his idea of granting U.S. statehood to an American lunar colony.
“I was meeting Rick’s desire for grandiose ideas,” a smiling Gingrich said, referring to Santorum.
But he warned against allowing China to dominate space exploration.
A lunar colony would be “an enormous expense,” Romney cautioned. “I’d rather be re-building housing here in the U.S.”
Romney ridiculed the lunar colony idea, saying that if he were a chief executive in the private sector he’d fire any entrepreneur who proposed spending billions of dollars on a colony on the moon.
And Romney accused Gingrich of pandering, by going from state to state and proposing ideas that would have local appeal – such as a new space program for Florida’s Space Coast. Politicians catering to local desires “got us into the (fiscal) trouble we’re in now,” Romney said.
When an audience member asked how religious faith would affect the candidates’ actions as president, Gingrich got a loud round of applause when he said “there has been an increasingly aggressive war against religion -- and in particular against Christianity in this country, largely by a secular elite” in academia and in the news media.
Santorum made a strong argument at the end of the debate that both Gingrich and Romney were fatally flawed by their support for the Wall Street bailout of 2008-2009 and, in Romney's case, by his signing a health insurance mandate into law as governor of Massachusetts. And, Santorum charged, "they both bought into the global warming hoax."
Read the NBC News/WSJ poll: Gingrich leads Romney but trails far behind Obama
The debate also touched on Gingrich’s criticism of Romney earlier Thursday when he said “we’re not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida, and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac…..”
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Romney gave his response in the debate accusing Gingrich of suggesting by innuendo “that there is something wrong with being successful and having investments and having a return on those investments.”
He said, “Let’s put behind (us) this idea of attacking me because of my investments or my money and let’s get Republicans to say, 'You know what, ‘what you’ve accomplished in your life should not be seen as a detriment, it should be seen as an asset to help America.”
The debate also addressed the question of whether the federal government — and agencies such as Freddie Mac -- contributed to the housing collapse. Romney called Gingrich a “horn tooter” for Freddie Mac.
Romney has been criticizing Gingrich for weeks for being paid $1.6 million as a consultant to Freddie Mac, whose policies contributed to the 2004-2007 housing bubble.
Freddie Mac is “offering mortgages again to people who can’t possibly afford them,” Romney said.
Gingrich replied that he had done no lobbying for Freddie Mac and that Romney owns shares in both Freddie Mac and the other federally-sponsored housing agency, Fannie Mae.
Gingrich also said Romney owns shares in Goldman Sachs which, he implied, had reaped profits from housing foreclosures. Gingrich asked rhetorically how much money Romney had made from households that had been foreclosed on.
Romney replied that “my investments for the past ten years have been in a blind trust.”
He turned to Gingrich and said “You also had investments in mutual funds that also invest in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.”
Romney is now airing a TV ad in Nevada, which holds its Republican caucuses on Feb. 4, one week from Saturday, saying, “While Nevada families lost everythingin the housingcrisis, Newt Gingrich cashed in. Gingrich was paid over $1.6 million by the scandal-ridden agency that helped create the crisis.” The ad ends by flashinga photo of a smiling Obama as the voiceover says “If Newt wins, this guy would very happy.”
First Read: The tide may be turning in Florida
Santorum got a big round of applause by urging the two men to cease their personal skirmishing and focus on national issues.
The debate began with a discussion of Romney’s idea that illegal immigrants should and will “self deport” if their ability to work in the United States is ended.
Gingrich, who served as House speaker from 1995 to 1999, said, "self-deportation will occur if you’re single,” but illegal immigrants who have been in the United States for many years would not leave. There needs to be “some level of humanity” for long-term illegal immigrants. “Grandmothers and grandfathers aren’t likely to self deport,” he said.
Romney took issue with a Gingrich TV ad -- which Gingrich has since pulled off the air – that had called Romney “anti-immigrant.”
“The idea that I am anti-immigrant is repulsive,” Romney said, glaring at Gingrich.
Romney said those who enter the United States legally would be given an identification card and work permit that would allow them to work.
Romney said no one was interested in rounding up 11 million illegal immigrants and deporting them – hence the need for illegal immigrants to leave voluntarily. “Our problem is not 11 million grandmothers,” he said, but rather younger illegal immigrants who take jobs that Americans might otherwise take.
Sen. Marco Rubio, R- Fla., who is neutral in the race, has criticized Gingrich for running the ad that called Romney "anti-immigrant." Rubio told The Miami Herald that the phrasing in Gingrich’s ad was “inaccurate, inflammatory, and doesn’t belong in this campaign.’’
He added that “neither of these two men is anti-immigrant. Both are pro-legal immigration and both have positive messages that play well in the Hispanic community.’’ Following Rubio’s criticism, the Gingrich campaign pulled the ad off the air.
Latino voters make up about 12 percent of the Florida Republican electorate — and they may be crucial on Tuesday.
NBC Politics: Gingrich rages against the GOP machine
In an interview with Univision Thursday, Gingrich accused Romney of “inhumanity” for wanting to “deport grandmothers and grandfathers” – a reference to Romney’s opposition to any form of legalization for long-term illegal residents of the United States.
An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday evening showed Gingrich does worse in a hypothetical November election contest against President Barack Obama than do Romney or Santorum among all poll respondents.
In a Romney-Obama contest, Romney lags the president by six percentage points, but in a Gingrich-Obama contest, Gingrich trails by 18 points.
Yet among self-identified Republicans, Gingrich is the favorite for the nomination, beating Romney 37 percent to 28 percent, with 18 percent for Santorum, and 12 percent for Paul.
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The tactics Republicans use on Democrats have come home to roost. Smear, fear, doom, gloom, false accusations, distortions, lies, etc. May the worst man win tonight.
There are more Party of No debates than episodes of Jersey Shore, that latter which I could actually stomach to watch.
Pathetic, Reichwing.
in the immortal words of that Pink Floyd song "Hello, hello, is there anybody in there. Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home."
I have the same private message for each one of them...
I love the way you lie...!
I am no Ron Paul fan and I wouldn't vote for him, but I have to admit he seems much more honest than the rest of them.
Unfortunately its probably why he will never be President...
I listened to Newty lie during the debate just the other night.
He said he offered up several people to ABC News to refute the open marriage thing, claimed by his ex-wife (#2).
Really! Now how can anyone testify that he never said what she claims he said to her in private?
And no jumps up and says, "YOU LIE"...? We found out today from his own staff that there was only his 2 daughters from his ex-wife (#1, I think), I get the wives confused.
If you vote for one of these A-Hole politicians, than stop yer bitchin.
We get the politicians that we deserve, people it is collectively our own faults....!
Even the worst man running would be much better than what we have now.
WOW, really looking forward to seeing their medical records!
Newt's campaign has now admitted that he "misspoke" on that issue and that his attack on John King and subsequent claim that they had offered several rebuttal witnesses (to Marianne), which ABC supposedly ignored or denied airtime, were BS and that the only people who could rebut her statements were the then teenage daughters of Newt. Now, the hissy fit that Newt threw at John King was front page and made the red-meat crowd salivate over his ripping of the "liberal media" but his admission that he lied and made the whole thing up is of course buried on page 10. Loser!
Not Really, Rick In-Sanetorum.
He is really whacked, he brought his baby dead fetus home to show the other siblings.
"Hey kids come here and meet your decomposing dead brother here, look he's in this Jar, he kinda looks like you guys doesn't he"...?
WTF, I wouldn't do that to my kids if it was my dog that had died...!
His kids need protective custody...
Yeah these guys are a real load of manure all right...
President Newt? Really?
President Mitt? Nah.
"Pouring his scorn on Romney, Gingrich told a crowd of about 1,500 that “we’re not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida, and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac ... .”
Did Newt rewrite his own history?
1. In the 222 year history of the United States House of Representatives, only one Speaker of the House has faced official reprimand for ethics violations. That Speaker was Newt Gingrich.
2. Newt Gingrich resigned as House Speaker in 1998 when even his own party was disgusted with him, at the time his approval rating was 24% the lowest of any house speaker to date.
3. Newt as House Speaker was charged with 84 ethical Violations (84 ethical violations)
4. He was fined a total of $300,000 for the violations. (Looks like he got his money back from Freddie Mac to the tune of $1.3 Million)
5. Newt was leading the charge against Clinton during the sex scandal while at the same exact time he was having an affair, Newt has had 3 wives his first 2 ended in divorce after he was caught having affair with multiple women.
6. Newt pressed his first wife to sign divorce papers while she was still in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. He also graciously said "She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife."
7. Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992 all this corruption even before his ethical violations, seems like a lifetime trend. His vote for the secret House pay raise, didn't help.
8) Newt Gingrich made millions advising Fanny and Freddie ... and was fighting to help enable the over-leveraging, bundling toxic assets, derivative games and theft of taxpayer money. or possibly the ludicrous charges that it is the EPA or FDA and all their job killing regulations
9)
The day after Palin's endorsment, in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Gingrich "promised" to give Palin a presidential appointment.
CNN Press Room
...I was honored and delighted last night when she said if she were in South Carolina, she’d vote for Newt Gingrich....
...I would ask her to consider taking a major role in the next administration if I’m president...
"Clearly Gingrich is sending the message to all the other top-level GOP celebrities, that no matter how unqualified you are, that if you are willing to help him win the South Carolina primary, you too will be rewarded with a presidential appointment."
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 29 > § 599
§ 599. Promise of appointment by candidate
Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
10) Newt broke the Oath he was required to take and keep, a prosecutable offense (Yes, so did Obama, Biden, all who voted "Aye" on NDAA, all those who assisted and insisted that the Patriot Act be extended with even more illegal and unconstitutional things. Illegal warrantless Searches, etc)
No Americans want Newt as the POTUS. Obama is a
This is not a debate. It is a shouting match between two spoiled children. Are the other two kids allowed to speak?
Satan vs. Satan?
At least, "A Hell Divided Cannot Stand" ;-)
Keep it coming, Party of No.
When Newt said that the reason that he cheated on his wives and then treated them poorly after he split with them was because he, "Loved his country too much and worked too hard". that should have been it. He should have been laughed off the stage of history and never heard from again. Anyone who can make a sick-making statement like that with a straight face is just a crud and no amount of rationalization makes it one bit better.
The Romney campaign collapse continues despite the best efforts of the media to crown Mitt.
If you can't win with good press, you ain't gonna win.
Sorry Romney, better luck next time.
I'm starting to think Romeny and GingRICH should both get on the Jerry Springer show and end this one. JERRY.. JERRY! JERRY!!!!
well well here we have two white collar criminals/lawmakers spending 100's of millions to get a job that pays ..uh what is it 400,000.00? ....WOW! vote Ron Paul! unless you haven't been paying attention for the past 32 years.in that case vote with ->stuuuupid.
The Newt & Mitt Show is on kiddies it could even outdraw Bevis and Butthead with special guest Rick as his hapless self
Who gives a $hit! Two ego maniacs, crooks, who want to steal more than already has been stolen.
The Mitt & Newt Show is on kiddies!
Why it could even outdraw Bevis and Butthead with special guest the Hapless Rick as himself
Jungleboogie,
And the time after that and the time after that. Stop already. Take the hint. You ain't never goin' to sit in that chair in that office in that house. N|EVER!!!!!!
Oh my, they are such clowns. They are nothing but amusing. Wake me in 2016 to see if the clown circus can put a better clown up for King Clown, cause there is NO WAY IN HELL the republican party is taking the White House this year. I mean, listen to these jokers. How can you possibly take them seriously.
and the press-a-tudes pretend ron paul is not there-funny they had to steal the election from ron paul in the other states.also-newt had to cancel his talks cause no one would show up,and ronmey had to pay people to hold his signs.and yet the press-a-tudes pretend these to devils are the front runners
Pretty clear that REAL Republicans are NoT endorsing fringe politics ...
Gingrich is searching for a crater to mine - but - eventually will just create his own ...
Romney is showing us how much it costs to be 'acceptable' to Republicans ...
According to Republicans, TransCanada would be a bigger job creator than Mitt Romney ...
It is NoT the Republican's fault they can't create jobs - China won't let them ...
Mainstream Republicans are proud they know there are 50 states - smarter than a fourth grader ...
Biggest Republican accomplishment is having a birth certificate - taking credit for someone else's labor ...
The Anybody But Obama crowd are still searching for Mr. Anybody ...
Since Republicans obviously can't win - vote everyone else out - the Jim Jones option ...
The thing that scares me is that we said the same thing about George W. Bush before his second term. There are a lot of people out there who, for whatever reason, find these people appealing.
Romney wiped the floor with Newt. Newt cannot defend influence peddling and never will be because there is to much documentation supporting it. He is a pompous, egotistical, corrupt Washington Insider and never should let be close to the reins of power.
Interesting to watch the debates. They beat each other to pieces. Plenty to use against them in the future. No real winners here. Just lots of blood. Each made some good points. Maybe we could put them all in a blender and pour out a real candidate. Either way it will be someone mold-able to the powers that be.
Good luck on that one.
I'm one of the undecided voters, however everyday I'm more convinced , is no only one ot two that can beat Obama ,any of the 4 candidates include Ron Paul can beat Obama. Obama one term president.
The debate among Obama and Hillary was a food fight , I enjoy it too.
texasbob,
Let me guess. You must be from Texas. I here tell there are a bunch of wackos in Texas. Must be all those refugees trying to escape the witch in Arizona. Listen, when an ex-president of the USofA constructs his library and it consists of only one room with one chair, a toilet and a stack of old comic books, something has got to be wrong in Texas!
Now as far as your statement regarding
are you sure your not smokin' too much of that loco weed?!?!?
Knine - And Mrs. Pelosi said several times that "Newt, will noy be president, because she knows things" Yesterday, Newt, publically asked Nancy Pelosi to please tell the world what she knows or shut up. Now, Pelosi is saying she does not know anything. Would someone put her in a rubber room, before she hurts herself. We all know how California is, if she causes any harm to herself, it is going to us (the tax payers), millions!
Better headline would be "Gingrich, Romney Clash Over Lunacy"
Absolutely true Nerm_L
And let me tell you, it's a big crowd
Not a week goes by after SOPA is killed by public outrage, and Obama goes and signs ACTA
Obama is just killing his shot at a second term.
And though Obama is saying 'cutting spending', all he is really doing is cutting the increase in spending, which is not a cut at all.
@ Knine... Great post. Romney's record is only slightly better. Both of these clowns are the kings of comedy. Sanatorium is a lunatic. If Gingrich dyed his hair black he and Paul could be a great Laurel and Hardy that is the most amusing thing about any of these jartards. Nope the longer this thing draws out the more it looks like Obama will be the only sane choice.
Pelosi said Newt won't be president because she envy his position. Pelosi and her husband are so crooked that she never can be president. She is only Representative of one of the most liberal counties, that is all she can get.
The less government guy wants to govern the moon now. That would be a good place to put him.
The debate, Romney Won, Paul was next, than Gingrich and last was Santorum. I find everything Santorum talked about was very boring, sorry but Rick is a boring man. None of them will get my vote but if l had to, it would be Romney. I'm an Independent. I think Romney is some what trustworthy, Ron Paul is OK, Newt is a loser and Rick is a very boring person.
Contrary to what dem supporters say about Santorum or Paul, they both are very intelligent and have great ideas for the country.
I honestly believe that the dems don't want either Santorum or Paul to win the nomination so they say as many despicable things as possible against them.
Ask yourself a very simple question. If you had the choice of who you would face in battle, would you choose the strongest opponent, or the weakest? This is exactly why the dems want to bash Paul and Santorum. They'd rather face Gingrich or Romney so they write as much as possible against the best two candidates (Paul/Santorum). This is also why the media focuses so much attention on Newt and Mitt. They want everyone to concentrate their thoughts on them and not the better two of the four running. Look at how many articles are currently posted for our reading here at MSNBC. How many of those are about Romney and Gingrich? How many are about Paul or Santorum? Then look to see how many articles there are about the president. You'd be lucky to find 1/5 as many. The reason is simple. The media favors the dems so they write as many articles as possible trying to spin things unfavorably about the GOP. All the while, Fox News is blasted as being the network that is biased. It would be nice to see any network actually become fair and balanced. But none of us may live long enough to ever see that day; if it ever comes.
To the blatantly partisan posters: Do you not recall how Democrats Obama and Clinton were mud-slinging and nasty-attacking each other in 2008? How is that any different that whatt he Republican candidates (at least Romney and Gingrich) today? The only notable difference is that CLinton was a woman, and therefore could get away with the typical back-stabbing, conniving paranoia common to that gender.
When two losers get into a fight there is no winner and that about tells you what these debates are.
Stop the Bullsh1t: "The Democrats say nasty things to each other, too - especially that woman" ("CLinton was a woman, and therefore could get away with the typical back-stabbing, conniving paranoia common to that gender.")
Wow, BS, no wonder you're a Republican! We appreciate you staying with your clan and away from the rest of society.
After watching the debate, I've decided to build a pipeline to the White House with Champagne for Obama on his win for 2012.
Stop the BS is a walking oxy- moron. The big fig Newton... Romney Reagen... Insantoram... Less Paul... Oh the choices are the same in one way... They are all bad choices.
People,
Who do you really think has the more know how and the more DESIRE to become president ---- with you actually believing he will do what he says he will do ---- quickly, once he gets into office?
The answer to that is Mitt Romney.
People ---- OBAMA IS CLUELESS AND OUR COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY, I LOVE AMERICA AND I KNOW YOU DO TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plastic face for first lady ?????????????
@hungry mongoose: Romney would put our country down the toilet.
Romney is a neo-conservative, exactly like Bush.
Why do you think Romney is supported by the same morons who brought us Bush policy and defended it
Which is to say, Elliot Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz, Anne Coulter, William Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer.
Romney can shove it.
How much more obvious does things have to get before the majority of the voters realize they being made fools. All this drama between the "top two media darlings" is just a ploy to get Obama re-elected. It is so blately clear the media's manipulation of these so called debates is only to dishearted the Republican voters. Media did it for Obama before and they are doing again. Wake up and look around. If people can not see the only person on the stage that is being deliberately excluded by media & crimminal backstabbing "2", is the ONLY INTELLIGENT, HONEST TO GOD, REAL CANDIDATE,(RON PAUL) then we will again get HAD for another 4 years. Like the saying goes "Heads I win, tails you Lose" Yes Ron Paul is the senior but that should go to his credit as having been around this corruption long enough to know how to change it.
The debate is over and so is the GOP Tea Retards, Do nothing protect the rich party is finished.
Newt married a slut. I don't think she has a clue what being First Lady would mean.
I love it... Now its Obamas fault you don't have a worthy dog in the fight. Holy crap I finally agree with conservatives about something. LMAO
Which one appears to be the most presidential? The vulture capitalist, the open marriage, the condom killer, the wild west, or the actual president?
The average voter only sees the canibalism in the republican party. Meanwhile, back in sanity land, the president is saving americans in Somalia, discussing the more important issues at factories, and planning a more reasonable step to the future.
Sure, go ahead and chastise those that feel they are better off with what they have compared to the opponents offered by the opposition. However, the realization should be present in everyone's mind.
Handing the controls back to the same people that destroyed us is psychotic.
Wouldn't call that conservative. Honestly not sure what that is and wonder if it has always been that ridiculous. Is there really not a single candidate to run against President Obama? Country is freakin doomed. Don't say Ron Paul, the man only made a couple coherent statements in the entire debate.
Straightenup&bendknees
Ron Paul has no shot of winning against the republican establishment let alone Obama.
1. He would stick his head in the sand on foreign matters.
2. He is running for a government job... by opposing government jobs.
3. He wants to remove all amendments to the Constitution.
4. He can not get any minority votes.
5. Privatized prisons would go under with the legalization of marajuana
Ron Paul is nostalgic for by-gone days. And, like his remeniscing of the past, he will fade into the past.
I am a minority voters - and actually there are plent of others ---- it is obvious you haven't done any real homework!
Ron Paul does well with minorities actually,
But I think Gingrich is going to take the nomination. Which ain't such a bad thing. If anyone could rid the GOP house of Neo-con scum, it would be Gingrich.
Romney is sagging like Bob Dole short of Viagra.
We export all manufacturing in this country and import our labor, the blue and the white of our collars....et tu Brute.....
Why does Mitt Romney want to ban regulation of greenhouse gases? Why does he want to eliminate Medicare? Why has he reversed half his positions just to please Christian conservatives?
Oscar, do you think the United States is a Christian nation? Do you think a candidate needs to be religious to have political office? Do you think the income tax on the poor should be increased, while the income tax for the top is either reduced or outright eliminated? Do you think Palestineans are not a people? Do you think Reaganomics works? Do you think a candidate who says yes to all of these questions can beat President Obama? Why?
Here it is, in a nut shell. Rather, here they both are, in a nut shell.
The entire Republican party, their wealth and even their "god", cannot give the Republican "candidates" the class, integrity, respect, honesty, sincerity and especially the trust; President Obama deserves. Karl Rove, will not be the Svengali, the Republicans counted on, when Bush was illegally, crowned , "Leader of the free world. I never once, could bring myself to call Bush "President." He never earned the post and certainly, was a disgrace to our country.
Now it appears, two more over-rated, under-handed criminals want to run our country into the ground.
Mitt has absolutely no idea what providing an honest days work entails.
Newt is an flip, disrespectful, antagonist, who thinks he can win the candidacy by bating factions and acting like he is a hero for the Tea Party. His displays of disrespect for the monitors, of the debates, is only a symptom of the contempt he has for all Americans.
Neither 'wannabe,' has any substance or character, to clean up elephant poop, at a circus. Both are liars and thieves, who will say or do anything, to play to the crowd. They are a shameful example, what our country really has to offer.
These two elitists are creatures, who would not or could not, keep up with the average American, when it comes to physical labor or common sense.
Voters are becoming tired, of the hubris and a ridiculous antics, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb display every day. They both need to find a job and realize what an honest days work entails.
November cannot come soon enough.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
texasbob
Even the worst man running would be much better than what we have now.
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Boob,
What we have now is immeasurably better than the feeces the state of texas gave us from 2001-2009. Thank God we dodged another texas bullet when Slick Rick realized he couldn't stand the heat.
Mitt hammers Newt. Newt slams Mitt. And the winner is...Obama? Unfortunately, that means America loses.
Why is the media obsessed with the stuffed suits that are Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum when the only sane and honest candidate Ron Paul gets ignored.
They didn't even give Ron Paul a chance to answer half the questions and the camera was rarely on him while the gang of three liars had all the time and attention.
There is one Political Party in the US now. Mixed in a Blender.
No one can tell the difference between Republicans or Democrats.
They both take the "Rat on each other, and Snitch" approach, with lying all the way. Surprised the GOP has stooped so low. It will affect whoever is running for GOP Pres. Words are strong, people remember.
All Politicians are low-lifes.
The US is in deep do-do--we have no Outstanding Candidates on either side. Shocking.
Tons of money cannot buy a suitable President to lead this country---Mediocrity is running for the Presidency of the United States-
BWHA HA HA HA! Oh that was a good one!
Oh, you're serious? Apparently some people still don't realize that Mitt is the human weathervane, about as inconsistent and unreliable as can be. The only constant to Mitt is his desire to benefit himself, so we can be certain a "President Romney" will push hard for tax cuts that benefit himself, and push even harder for a pay increase for himself. He'll probably lay off people for his pay increase, that was the Bain way.
Gingrich and Romney battle to determine which one will become the second Republican Presidential Candidate to lose to Barack Obama.
Knine - even Pelosi didn't term the money a "fine". In the actual report AND in the Ethic rules it is a reimbursement for cost of investigating for 2 years.
What is really interesting is when you peel away all the layers of what people say about him
According to Gingrich he was fined for being "less than truthful" or "not providing the committee requested information in a timely matter" From digging - Gingrich's legal council improperly filed the requested information improperly with the committee. The investigation costs was the committee sorting through all the thousands of documents.
And the other layer. The source of the Ethics charges was the candidate that lost to Gingrich in his last election to Congress.
10 All 84 of the Charges were dismissed for lack of evidence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/101198.htm
The grounds for income tax invasion and political use of the college course totally destroyed by IRS investigation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/gingrich020499.htm
I'm not for Gingrich, but jumping on the Democrat band wagon of false charges along with Romney probably is not a good idea. Because those you trust are lying to you, I'm giving those who have been sheep a chance to think and act based on facts, not trumped up jello-backed accusations.
Newt had a bad day yesterday. Ann Coulter blasted him. Bob Dole cam out against him. Matt Drudge came out against him and Romney kicked his fat ass all over the stage in the debate.
Ok, here is how I see it.
The GOP has the choice of choosing the fabulously RICH GUY who belongs to what most Americans think is a religious cult and who is so out of touch with the rest of the country he thinks $400K is "not much".
Or...
The reprobate retread politician who wants to put colonies of the moon and is bought and paid for by a fanatical Zionist billionaire.
What a choice.
It must suck to be in the GOP.
Obama/Biden 2012
The process really shouldn't be that complicated. Simply put two competing plans together, illustrate how the GOP nominee can get to the results that the people want. Simple right? I personally don't care who has been divorced, cheated, made a bunch of money, ran a business or even what color they are. Experience matters to me, I think a person who has been in and knows Washington, can work with democrats and the legislative branch is as important as private entrepreneurial skills. That pretty much leaves us with Newt Gingrich as the only real candidate. No brainer right? The debates are getting attention, people aren't watching for the mud slinging and when it is over, I doubt there will be much credibility left of any of them. Either they are out of touch and playing to the lowest common denominator or the GOP never had any intention of winning the presidency.
Newt cheated on his ex-wives, but he says he's stopped.
Mitt cheated on America, and he's still doing it.
We need a President who SERVES his country, not a phony who takes advantage of it!
Newt being disingenous?
NO WAY!?
Please nominate Newt. Pretty please.
That would be President Obama.
Newt got kicked out, and Mitt doesn't deserve to go.
As I posted on another thread:
Someone made references to the various ideologies by stating:
At least during the old west, government was small, justice was maintained, the people had control over their own lives and destinies, inventions and innovation were starting to flow from within, and the people of the world wanted to either be here or have their country be like the USA.
In life, sometimes you need to go backward a bit before you can proceed forwards. Being that the US is currently very much like ancient Rome was, (just before it FELL), haven't we gone backwards long enough?
HILARIOUS! Gingrich is the poster child for neo-con scum!
I have been thinking hard about who to vote for in the GOP primary in Florida. I'm going to vote for Gingrich for the first and last time in my life. Since the GOP establishment hates Newt I'm going to help make sure he gets the nomination. Obama will be able to deep six Gingrich's campaign easier then Romney's. Then in November it's Go democrats.
i cant beleave they let these people even run for office. i mean this is rediculous. i know there has to be someone out there with their head on there sholders and not on the freaking moon.
awhy is Santorum and paul left out of the headlines???
Because the (puppet) president is already chosen and paid for. There is no other explanation for the utterly blatant disregard for Ron Paul in the mainstream news outlets. Anywhere you read or tune in or watch , the intention is for the public to believe that this is a two man race i.e. rob-mney and gin-grinch. There is still hope that Paul will survive this and come out on top. The good thing is that more and more people are waking up to these tactics. i.e. flood the republican race with a bunch of clowns then one by one drops out pledging his support for the CHOSEN puppet. ... divide and conquer strategy if i ever saw it.
Santorum is left out because he is a total loser, Paul is OK. The Worst of them all is Newt Gingrich.
cause they are irrelevant....
They should be all left out of the headlines, they all suck really bad, Santorum being the worst Newt is a spinner liar , Mitt is the corporate puppet, maybe they should talk more about Ron Paul that seems to be the less of the dangers, at least he is against the wars...
Saniflush is left out for many reasons the most important being his bigotted attacks on women
and all in all his unintellingence on any topic of conversation
Ron Paul has some good ideas but his comments about Federal Reserve could end up costing him his life
1) "Yet among self-identified Republicans, Gingrich is the favorite for the nomination"
2) "awhy is Santorum and paul left out of the headlines???"
1) Gingrich is not the favorite. Do you remember just before the SC debate, Newt had to cancel all his speeches because no one was showing up? If no one wanted to listen to Newt, why did they think anyone actually voted for him? Did you all see the information on the election fraud that was going on in SC?After Newt Gingrich’s stunning victory in the South Carolina Republican primaries on Saturday, there are now questions surrounding the vote counting process that took place Saturday night.
Indeed, some individuals who witnessed the actual certification of the vote are beginning to question whether or not the outcome is a result of clever campaigning, or that of voter fraud.
Although no one is pointing fingers at the Gingrich campaign, or any other campaign at this point, the anomalies that are arising from the accounts of eyewitnesses call into question the certainty and the credibility of the final count in South Carolina.
Chris Lawton went to the Pickens County elections office to witness the vote certification and noticed a series of situations that were either in direct opposition to State voting laws, or, at the very least, highly questionable.
Lawton noticed that, even as he arrived, the projector was displaying 726 -746 votes which were broken down by candidates. He says he then inquired as to where these votes came from and was told that the votes were tabulated at 9:00 am that day and as mail came in.
He was then instructed that he could not be in a secure area.
Eventually, he stated, he gathered himself together and decided to assert himself as per his rights to witness the count personally under State law. He says, “[They were] very unfriendly and appeared agitated at my presence.
Mr. Lawton then states that at 8:00 pm a precinct which he believes to be Prater’s Creek came into the office without the “zero” tape; the device that shows the voting machines were started at a vote count of zero. Without the “zero” tape, there is no certainty that the voting machines did not begin operation loaded with votes for specific candidates, a very serious issue to say the least.
At 8:05 pm, Mr. Lawton claims that a box of ballots arrived (Box 216) which he believes were also from Prater’s Creek. This box had a broken security seal.
Yet these were not the only ballots to come back unsecured. According to Lawton, the discs containing the Powdersville District 2 ballots arrived being carried by a poll worker. These discs were not only missing a seal, but were being carried in a personal folder inside the worker’s left pocket.
Lawton claims that around 8:55 pm, a lady from Clemson Precinct 1 stated that the boxes and machines for this precinct were actually dropped off at another precinct – Stone Church at University Baptist Church in Clemson.
Lawton says that he asked when the machines and ballots would arrive at the correct precinct and was told that the votes had already been tabulated and would be coming in later. He claims that he was then told, later on, that the machines and ballots would be stored at the church. Lawton says that he never found out where the ballots and machines ended up before he departed his precinct Saturday night.
Yet Pickens County is not the only location where the method of counting votes is questionable.
... that the vote certification was seriously flawed and essentially conducted in secret. Those individuals who came to witness the certification were not allowed into the room where the votes were being tallied and could only view the process through a glass window.
The process itself was conducted behind closed doors and witnesses could only view individuals working on computers (there were no paper ballots) – but they were unable to actually see what was on the computers themselves. Because the vote counting took place in a closed room, there was no sound available to any of the witnesses either. Only a computer screen tacked onto the wall was available for witnesses in order to view what was allegedly happening on the computers in the next room.
This is particularly concerning since the South Carolina State Constitution states that, while votes are to be cast in secret, they are to be counted in public.
In addition, Florence County also reported some rather strange voting machine failure as well. Within the first hour of voting, some of the machines in the Florence 35 District began to experience technical failures, forcing the precinct to move to paper ballots. The technical failures were related to the PEB (Personal Electronic Ballot), an external memory device that activates the voting machine and summarizes data from the machine for tabulation at the end of the day.
Interestingly enough, in South Carolina, all election results are transmitted through a Spanish owned company, Scytl/SOE Software, before they are reported to the public. This company’s software has been implicated in voter fraud in the past when, in Broward County, Florida, a candidate who had been winning the election was entirely vaporized in mid-count. Hillsborough County, Florida and Dallas County, Texas also had votes disappear as a result of the Scytl/SOE Software.
Of course, the software is not the only issue with South Carolina vote counting that could point to fraud. As Bev Harris, an elections and vote fraud expert, writes on her website BlackBoxVoting.com,
Well, you have to put an asterisk alongside “the right results” because in South Carolina you get a two-fer. Results could be incorrect at either end of the pipeline - - from the ES&S iVotronic paperless touchscreen voting machines, which have a history of incorrect totals, or from the private results reporting firm Scytl/SOE Software, which has centralized control over what gets reported.
She also writes “There is only one way to immediately find out whether Scytl/SOE reported the right results*, and that is for members of the public to capture evidence of reported precinct results when polls close tonight.” Essentially, Harris is echoing the sentiment of the source quoted earlier who stated that the system is not geared toward transparency in vote counting.
Neverthless, the ES&S iVotronic vote machines have had quite a history of fraud themselves, even being the subject of a special report by Dan Rather in 2001.
Yet, even putting aside the Scytl/SOE Software and ES&S voting machines, vote fraud would still be a major issue in South Carolina.
For instance, South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson recently sent a letter to the U.S. Department of Justice which was dated Thursday, January 19, 2012, and contained details of voter fraud in South Carolina. The analysis of the fraud was conducted by the Department of Motor Vehicles and was sent to U.S. Attorney Bill Nettles.
Ron Paul was a warrior back in the day, and he's a man of principle. Death is the last thing he would fear.
Ron Paul got left out because he didn't take any lobbyist money from NBC. Or CNN or CBS or Fox. Mainstream media only wants you to see what they want. They have the candidates they've paid off and that who'll they cover and that's who will ultimately win the game.
Because Ron Paul is crazy,haven't you heard?
This race is between the millionaire with the Magic Underpants and the fat guy who wants to colonize the moon.
Because both parties want the ability to blame the other. Ron Paul has been straight with his issues for more than 30 yrs, he's a nut-job because the media labels him as such. If the republican pary can come up with someone worthwhile, ill listen, until than RON PAUL. Everyone wants things to be better, but the same ol' stuff aint getting it. WE have to make a move away from the paid off politicians, I mean , How can you not see whats happening to this country. Is everyone this dense?
I dunno, Fed up. I heard Ron Paul in an interview the other day, and he sounds like a loony imbecile. They asked him what states he thought he could win, and he said "I don't know, I pay people to think about things like that for me."
ATB, Paul & Santorum are out of the headlines because the media tries to decide who should win and lose.
Fortunately, however hard the media tries to shove Romney at us, no one is buying.
This is despite the best efforts of Bill Kristol, Elliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer, Anne Coulter, and most of the other neo-con morons over at fox.
Romney is no more conservative than Bush which is to say, not at all.
real amer 1st, thaat's what I would say. If i were RON I wouldn't waste much breath on an interviewer asking such stupid questions anyway. You know if I were an interviewer and got to ask ron paul any question it would be about the fed or his views on foreign policy, not what states do you think you can win. Ron is not stupid he knew they giving him what little "token" time for the "news" and I'm sure they were told what to ask him and what not to ask. wake up. they trry and make him look dumb every chance they get.. they have done it to him for years and did it to NADER.
ANNE coulter is still a man.
Mittens Rob-us-blind Flip Flop, the 1%'er CORPERTE RAIDER and one time governor of Liberal Mass but now he is an arch conservative. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues.
He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;
His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped. Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering and boot licking to the tea party.
Mitt Flip-Flop Rob-us-blind, a wishy-washy, flip flopping spinless politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another. You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.
The only good thing that would happen if Flip-Flop were to get elected It would prove that Conservatism is dead as Flip-Flop would stab the Conservatives in the back.
Mitt Flip Flop Romney LMAO!
That about sums it up. Thanks, that made me laugh!
I disagree with Paul but have more respect for him than the others, which is kind of faint praise, I guess. In fairness, he has acknowledged there is no realistic chance for him to win, so it's a little hard to get really excited about his prospects. He has his views and he wants to make his points, which is fine. And the media is guilty of presenting things the way they think will attract more viewers. It is unfortunate for our country that they are largely correct. I hate to say it but it's kind of hard to underestimate a large portion of the population. Look at reality television shows. Trash, but they wouldn't be there if they didn't have viewers. Sad but true.
Knine, Sounds to me like whoever ran the show in S Carolina, learned very well from the one that ran the show in Florida in 1999. Yeeowzza!!
Gee, what a choice....Lets see, NEWT, who even the party does not care for, most despise, or Mitt, Well, it looks pretty good for four more years! Obama must be laughing!
Rick, I agree that Ron Paul is much more respectable and admirable than any of the others. I think he tells the truth when asked what he believes. I disagree with most of what he proposes other than his positions on foreign engagement and ending the War on Drugs but, those two issues are the ones most likely to torpedo his prospects with the Republicans who belong to his party. I haven't heard anything from Mitt, Newt or Rick about the War on Drugs but, if what they are saying as candidates on foreign engagement is in any way close to what they really believe, then their saber rattling, pissing contest talk is embarrassing, immature and foolish.
The anti-Romney camp in the GOP is overwhelming the party, actually.
Since the GOP party has been hijacked by Neo-conservatives, which are not really conservative at all, this is not surprising.
1surviivor said; "ANNE coulter is still a man."
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He is not !
Mitt Romney: 'Did I say flip? I meant flop. I've always been a flop.'
@survivor, maybe, but he's not MUCH of a man.
Most of the positions that are regarded as 'conservative' today are anything but.
It's sort of like in George Orwell's "Newspeak". Words get redefined.
Modern "consevatives" are ungood.
Holy Mother of God, not another one. When will the freak shows end!
My sentiments exactly! Thanks for the laugh. I think I'm laughing. Maybe I'm crying.
I would appreciate some serious, hard-hitting questions this time instead of the softballs Brian Williams was throwing out last time. Terry Schiavo? Really? They'll probably spend the whole time knocking the President's SOTU though.
And they should. Obama's 3 SOTU speeches were virtually identical. Face it, the man is a broken record and is out of ideas..
You mean actual questions that might actually interest those americans who don't speak and think like 13 year old boys. Never happen our news media isn't intested in issues only ratings. They have descended to the level of gossip columnists.
Look at how well Hillary Clinton did with the question and answer sessions during the '08 campaign, Obama couldn't even make a complete sentence. I might have voted for her.
The only time I ever voted a Democrat into office was for President Clinton.
It all seems to be a game that we have very little control over.
The Mitt & Newt Show is on kiddies it could even outdraw Bevis and Butthead with special guest Little Ricky as his hapless self
Newt and Mitt suiting up for a debate, are they? Probably putting on boots and raincoats because the sh!t is about to fly.
Let the republican games begin! SEND IN ,,,,,,,,,THE CLOWNS.
More and more, it's become blatantly obvious once again (oh, how the American public forgot the 1990s) that Gingrich is one of the biggest A**HOLES on the planet.
Pompous, self-prideful and self-important, with a big mouth that can make some good points. (Fat, short, ugly and old, too).
The Four Stooges
Curly, Larry, Moe, and Shimp.
The voters have not forgotten the Stock Market Collapse & Banking Crisis of 2008 brought about by the policies of replicans,
Get an education Roger, ever here of Thomas Raines, how about Barney Frank. You're obviously oblivious to the strong-arm tactic and federal banking policies implemented by the Clinton Administration. FDIC'd banks were forced to make risky loans to minorities. Boy!!.. it sure did make Billy Boy Clinton look good didn't it. While he basked in the lime light, he knew full well that the crush wouldn't come until he was long gone from the scene of the crime.
Can you remember under which POTUS's administration the Houseing Boom occured?.... It was Billy Boy Clinton!..... Do you know why, well, dumb question, obviously not, since your blaming the party that called it the attention of Barney Frank in April 2001!! Remember Barney response... he blew it off, saying there was nothing to fear, Fannie May is solid as a rock. Idiots exactly like you fall for whatever the lame stream media puts in front of you.... and the really sad thing is, you don't even know how to educate yourself.
Ron Paul tried to warn us all about what was going to happen. He was exactly right has never wavered from this. By far one of the most intelligent economic minds of all time.
No one forced banks to make risky loans. Thay are arrogant and greedy but not stupid. It was the Bush Administration which failed to monitor the federal loan programs and greedy investors who took advantage of the loopholes and the lack of oversight to issue bogus mortgages and then sell them over and over again. If the Feds had the manpower and rules to overses these loans (both never fudned by Bush), we wouldn't have had the mess which the banks created.
Mike430-
You are absolutely incorrect. The Bush Admin. went to Congress 17 times to regulate lending
laws and the banking industry and turned down by a Democratic majority Congress. Sen John
McCain introduced and sponsored two bills in 2001 and again 2003 which were designed to address the issues that we now are seeing needed to be done and Barney Frank and the Democrats felt there was no need. Please learn your facts.
I thought you were talking about the good Ditto Heads on Fox and Friends every morning.The fourth member of the group would be Dick Morris..
Go back and check the record a see how republican Phil Gramm and his wife played a role in the eventual collapse of the housing market. It just wasn't democrats...
barney frank the gay strong arm SURE buddy . don't fool yourself .it was ALAN GREENSPAN 20 YEARS worth! that got us here. and doddering old reagan appointed him.. END THE FED VOTE rON PAUL!
roger it was Barney Frank and Cris Dodd that caused a lot of the problems. So get it right
duphas, before you suggest that someone else get an education, perhaps you should educate yourself as to the difference between HERE and HEAR. IDIOT!
;to the dufas one
bushie2/chinny bragged about the many American home-owners in the 2004 Campaign for President.
Repeated the phrase at every campaign stop.
Give me your excuses for 1929
the replicans wanting to go back to policies of Reagan and bushie2 ( the one that picked the perfect day to go read to kinder-gardners in Florida)
scotty beam urself away;
u are too unintelligent to discuss matters of government with
Hillarious :
Now we have humans saying replicans were for regulations
FIRST time in history.
to be a true uninformed unintelligent replican you must remember the party line
De-regulate everythiing that affects business.
Let's see. You can't remember how long you have been married to your wife - 25 or 42 years and you laugh about it. Hmmmm. My math says that is a difference of 17 years. I wonder if the mind is slipping or if someone is getting the first and second wife confused?
ure slipping and therefore replican bait
he was only married once
And this has what to do with say border security or jobs and the economy. Time to grow up out of jr high, Dutch.
Wonder what Mitt's wife thought about that...? He probably had to buy her another diamond bracelet or a ski chalet to make it up to her.
I can't believe that hack Gingrich is still being considered. He will say anything and make any accusation to get into office. He's the career politician. He's going to slam Romney for being wise with his money? Why not just come out and say he's socialist? He has no business calling himself a Republican.
I don't agree. Newt is every thing I always saw in Republicans... On second thought, Newt's cheating, lying, bullying, and serial hypocrisy are what seem to make him a "good" Republican, if there IS such a thing.
To: FreakDom Is the Right of all: There's That Word Again!!! EEEEEEEeeeeeeeeekkkkk!!!! Socialist, Socialism!!!!!! You know how these RepublicanCrimeCartelThugs blocked Our Most Needed Program?!???An American NationalHealthcareSystem. HolyMoly!! Even The TowelHeads Have A National healthcare system "MittPittanceTax" and THE Gangrene!!!You RepublicanCrimeCartelSoldiers Scream "SOCIALISM" Except when You Crooks Tuck AmericanTaxpayers monies in your pockets!!!!
And NOW You Thieves want "In" at the WhiteHouse???? Well Sorry, We Have a very Competent, Harvard Educated, GOOD FamilyMan Residing there already. So Keep Your Slimey Hands Off!!!And Gangrene Go!! Go!!! to the moon and stay there on Your LuniColony Base....All Alone.
Sorry You had to cancel ALL your speeches before the SC debate; NO ONE Was Interested to showup and watch you blow off Hot Air or FLATUS in Your Case. BTW We got a good look at those Rocket Scientists holding your "campaign" posters...How Hard Up Kin' ya' git'? Fowrgit Hieeall!!!
This joke isn't funny anymore. With a candidate who has never been right leading the rest of that motley crew, the party is in real trouble. The voting members can't be happy with this.
As bad as Nut Gingerhead is, he is still better than lyin Willard who evades taxes by banking in the Cayman Islands and Swiss banks, and has little regard for workers rights. Willard just can't be trusted.
We need to get rid of these three Morons, all three say the same thing they think government is the answer and they know whats best for me. Get out of my life, my insurance, my job ,my seatbelt, the patriot act, NDAA.
Send in the clowns.... there ought to be clowns....
don't bother... they're here.
Life2...seems that has been the hallmark of Republican candidates over the years. Middle Americans have been forced to carry the burden of their bad decisions since Dubya.
Rick, is it South America or Central America,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Maybe it's the country of Africa.
Well thank all of you for sending Ricky home. We now have an idea of how he'll handle border security. Give it to the state troopers and give them fast boats with bigger guns.
Pray for Americaq, and tha we will be delivered from our empty heded president...AND HER HUSBAND!
What? Learn Emglish, it makes your posts understandable.
It must be the water
I'm an excellent speller, but I was taught how to type by a dingbat Democrat...
You went to school in Texas? That explains a lot.
Randy for the Repube candidate! Can't speak, can't type and dumb as a stump. Oh and he lies just like all the other wannabes. Excellent speller? Maybe you can find work as the party of no comedian.
Cheesus! Why don't you go learn your spelling and grammar instead of embarassing yourself here!
anybody other than Ron Paul will be like having BUSH again and the Vets in this country would have NO health care at all,because the BUSH MAFIA took most of them and put this country in the dumps
We have a RACIST in the White House, and he needs to be shown the exit door!
He will leave in 2016 if all the republicans have against him are these 4 clowns.
Congratulations, you found spell check. BRAVO
Sounds like you are the real RACIST, no surprise since you are from a racist state...
What part of President Obama is a racist, the "WHITE" part or the "BLACK" part?
Both parts. EVERYTHING is the fault of a white man named George, in his sick mind.
Bush left OUR Country on Her Knees
We're still on our knees, PRAYING that "O" will get the big boot!
Randy, Marble Falls, TX
Sounds to me like the only RACIST is not in the white house, but in Marble Falls, TX!!! And the president has done a hell of a lot better job than the one before him from Texas. Where have you been for the last 3 years???
The ONLY Racist? Me? Wow! I didn't realize there was only 1 racist around! And I get to be it? Oh, boy! lright! I'm a racist! I admit it! I don't really like Green men. They remind me of what I puked up at summer camp, so I can't stand to look at them. But let's see...you on the other hand...(by the way, what IS that little bitty thing in your hand), ...oh, never mind, you're not worth the rant...
Wow, Mr. Obama is one of the biggest racist in our county. Sadly, he hates the United States (he clearly defined that in his book "Dreams of the Father" Doesn't the title worry you "the father".
Anyway, repeatly; the book details how he hates WHITES, how he surrounded himself with Communist people, and wants nothing more than to "change" our country as we know it. Pay attention people. He has made numerious "Executive Orders" to get his own way. "Who needs congress, screw the constitution.
Mr.Obama, Mrs. Obama. Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Rev. Wright, are part of the problem, not the solution.
If you do not like what it is, make a change, however; for it to be affective, the only change you that will work is when you change yourself! It is the only think anyone has control over!
That Ditto Head was pulled out of you know where..the sun don't shine there/
texans r 5o5tupid. except for Ron Paul followers
Sickofthieves-841667
President Obama is not one of the biggest racists in our country, in fact, I don't see him as a racist at all.
Please give real examples of how President Obama is a racist. Do you have quotes? Documentation? I am on the edge of my seat waiting.
Wait a minute, did you even bother to listen to the State of the Union address. Obama stated "SEND ME A BILL have a dozen times". If Congress and mostly the TeaParty Republicants actually did their job, maybe he wouldn't have to use executive orders. May I also remind you, that every president has used executive authority and abused it. George BUSH comes to mind first and the Iraq war. I don't recall Congress declaring war on Iraq. Do you?
Sick of Thieves, I think someone robbed you of a basic education. Please go get one. Thanks for the amusing post.
that guy already left the white house. Please try and keep up if you're going to play.
Listen to all the GOP: party of No & Newt: that wants to go to the moon. & Mitt: sending his money off shore, so he doesn't have to pay Taxes. Its all about the Wealthy getting richer and the middle class getting poorer.....They don't want to help out the poor, I do mean the poor not the lazy good for nothings...Who are the one's that leach off the taxpayer.They: are the Wealthy that get welfare both for themselves or for the Corps. So really All party are at fault...But it seems that the Wealthy get away with it like the Corzine.(.Democrat )...They steal billions and the few poor steals a few thousands. So what does the GOP want to do is Screw the MIddle Class to get even with the few. As I say its the me me me and F everyone else.... The failures of the Republicans party trying to take away SS and Medicare so they can give their wealthy Blackmailers more money...To hell with the Poor and Needy. Let them freeze in the winter and stave the Old and Babies,let them die from bad water, do away with the EPA and thats what you'll have, just like all you Teabaggers want...You make me sick with your Me Me Me altitude. It just a matter of time before the masses raise up against you . Greedy and you all call yourself Christains. What a laugh: Your no better than all the Muslims you all hate. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP
I like your name Maze. It's so apt! It's you. In fact, it's where you live, and breathe,..and enjoy the sunshine...in you nice white, long tie back sleeved coat. What's that you say, Maze? You want another cookie? How about some hot chocolate and another special mushroom, just like the one you had awhile ago? Go back to sleep now...breathe deep..Ma-a-a-z-z-z-z...
Repuglicans have got to be pullin' their hair out!! I don't mean all those Americans that consider themselves members of the GOP (whats left of it). NO! Only those that have demonstrated by their actions or non-actions (like in what part of no don't you understand) and rhetoric. REPUGLICANS!!!! YUCK!!!!
My name is Randy. I'm in Dallas ,Texas. Luckily, we do NOT use the same water that Koolaid is made from in MARBLE FALLS. That SH1T eats brain cells!!
The Moron in MARBLE FALLS does not represent the people in this state who ARE able to think for ourselves. Many of us are NOT fans of Dubya, Rick Perry, and ESPECIALLY NOT FANS OF NUT GINGRINCH. And yes, I know the correct spelling for that Azzhole's name but my spelling is a better description of him.
Randy, Yeah, but you're in Dallas. They still have schools operating there, right? From the sounds of it, there's not much 'learnin' goin on out there in "Marble Falls".
Once Ron Paul poses a real threat to the establishment, the media will black him out and even smear him in some cases, just so that he fades into obscurity once more. This isn't freedom of speech by any standard.
Ron Paul, a threat to the establishment?? LOL!! Oh stop, you're killing me!!!
Ron paul is THE biggest threat to the corporations..and your right they are killing you ...LOL
Wow, never seen such scraping politicians. This is why they can't get anything done in Washington they would arugue with the wall if Obama's picture was on it.
I swear I am about to pee myself !!! This is the funniest $hit ever !!! No you're a crook !! uh uh...You're a crook !!! Haaaaa !!!! FOMOFO-O !!!
So it seems to me that the more popular the COP candidate is the less popular they are to the general population. That means that the GOP base is composed of a small minority of the electorate and it's days as a national party are numbered as a result.
It seems to me that it is time for the GOP to split and leave it's radical conservative base behind and embrace a more moderate stance. It will be the only way that it can survive on the national level. It wouldn't be the first time that a political party split into two. We are if anything long overdue for one.
You spelled it right COP instead of GOP "Crap Old Party" :)
Actually it is past time to do away with parties. It is time candidates run on their merits, and if found lying about them, face charges.
It has probably gotten to the point, or nearly so, where the GOP National Committee is thinking of committing suicide. What a joke!!! I would say "you've got to be kidding me", but seeing is believing and what I just saw is not good enough to perform in some side show somewhere.
How much bull$hit can these people expect the American public to swallow. Unf*cking believable!!
Try reality SPARTAN, Ron Paul is finished.
why are we discussing this when some bitch puts her finger in the presidents nose. I believe that is treason
@a9ers- In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's sovereign or nation.
No that is someone standing up against treason