Thank God. Tired of hearing "Rocky the Flying Squirrel" voice....

LTcommander72,

You may be saying goodbye to the other Michelle come November??? I can only hope!!!

bout freaking time .... tired of hearing her whine and fake ass smile ... being from Texas ... hope Perry gets the hint and bails soon

The field continues to whittle down. Perry and Bachmann gone, Newt reeling, and even Paul seemed lackluster finishing 3rd. I think Huntsman is around, but I don't see him. That leave Mitt and Santorum. One is a flip-flopper, and one is so 'right' he is unelectable. Obama isn't much better, so what exactly are we looking forward too now?

Me to, O MassiveDick...

You mean even the wingnut Evangelican Iowan voters realized what a kook she was? Maybe there is hope for this country.....

Oh wait, Santorum almost won, nevermind...

There was zero going on over with Bachman, whether you look at it from a liberal or conservative standpoint, at least as far as ever getting a shot to win the Presidency. Stubbornness is the only reason she got this far, and not the good kind of stubbornness, either.

Backman! you are a looser and always will be, with your crazy eyed self.

The problem is the repukes still have crazy people in the race. All need to drop out, and as far as FilpRomney azz, him and "I have the biggest organization that can compete with President Obama" wont be a contest. I alone will canvass the State of Virginia alone to gather Votes for President Obama. How many people in his big organization will do that?

Michelle... what happened to the "one who provides miracles" you spoke of two days ago?

I suppose Jesus must be having a glass of water/wine with Joseph Smith (who, of course, is in hell.)

A close second-to-last? The other loon who claimed "Jesus" would assist.

Too. F**king. Funny.

LMAO..took her this long to get the hint!

Now maybe she will throw her support behind someone and that will kill their chances. There really is not a brain among the group of GOP candidates!

Bachmann is only in a state of 'suspension', a new state of political being created by Cain for this new queen of 'Unable' to follow. This still allows for her to be garnering continued campaign funding and use it to her advantage to stick around, ever lurking in the shadows, ready to pounce onto the scene and pontificate her opinion on us. Her hope is for a couple of the other wannabees to self-destruct worse than she did. Trust me, she's not done entertaining us just yet.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "cuckoo"
Regretfully they tell us Cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us Cuckoo, cuckoo
To say goodbye . . .
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

People,people! Let's all just relax. Romney will be the republican nominee. All these primaries, caucuses and flim flam mean absolutely nothing. The only person who had a chance (read big money behind him) to push out Romney would have been Perry and when the flabbergasted republican power structure got a look at Perry stepping on his own tongue and revealing his half brain capabilities they knew it had to be the Flip Flopper. They don't really like the idea but they are now stuck with Romney. Cain, Bachmann, Paul, Santorum and even Gingrich NEVER had a chance. There was no way, starting even a year ago that any of these people were going to get the nomination. If you're looking for a floor fight at the RNC forget it. Go to some British book making sight and bet the farm on Romney. Then parlay that with a bet on Obama because once they go after the very vulnerable Willard it will be, as it should...OBAMA 2012.

I guess God lied to you, Michelle...Go back to mooching off the government on your farm and mental health ("pray the gay away") clinic.

I hope her constituents realize what a complete nut they elected in the first place and kick her out!

Happy TRAILS, to yooooooooouuuuu.....

No, wait. That brings her back to Minnesota.

Dang.

Didn't a pro-Bachmann PAC recently compare her to Tim Tebow? Well, they were definitely right about that...she lost horribly in the first round...just like the Broncos are going to. But, come on...did anybody expect she would actually do well? She was flavor of the month about 6 months ago.

Bluelakes quote "

People,people! Let's all just relax. Romney will be the republican nominee. All these primaries, caucuses and flim flam mean absolutely nothing. The only person who had a chance (read big money behind him) to push out Romney would have been Perry and when the flabbergasted republican power structure got a look at Perry stepping on his own tongue and revealing his half brain capabilities they knew it had to be the Flip Flopper. They don't really like the idea but they are now stuck with Romney. Cain, Bachmann, Paul, Santorum and even Gingrich NEVER had a chance. There was no way, starting even a year ago that any of these people were going to get the nomination. If you're looking for a floor fight at the RNC forget it. Go to some British book making sight and bet the farm on Romney. Then parlay that with a bet on Obama because once they go after the very vulnerable Willard it will be, as it should...OBAMA 2012."

your right about everything but "Obama 2012" Bluelake. That may or may not happen. If the economy get's better he might win, but if that vote took place right now Obama would be one unhappy man. There's no bigger flip flopper than Obama. They have hours of tapes on him running in 07 / 08 saying things that he never really did, does GITMO ring a bell? Mitt is a easy target, but Obama has just as much baggage. I voted for Obama, but he will never get my vote again. I voted for him because he was supposed to be anti-war and a non-politician. He is bought and paid for, all you have to do is follow his money trail. He is the ultimate insider.

Lori

Thanks for the Sound of Music shout out. Very fitting, I wish I had thought of it first, :-)

And then there were six.

Watching the GOP primary is like watching a VERY SLOW and mostly boring version of "Ten Little Indians" (or "Then There Were None", if you prefer). Perry will be gone by the first of next week. Gingrich will hold on hoping to make a comeback in the sunny old south and Paul will probably stick around for at least one or two more shots before he drops out.

South Carolina. Can we just fast forward to that one please? That's the one that will be a good indicator of how luke warm or down right cold the evangelical right will be to Mitt Romney. Note the comment about Joseph Smith above if you need any further proof of Mitt's "stealth" negative.

Obama/Biden 2012

Dear God, please tell her to take pity on us and just slink away, go do good works in Fergus Falls or Ely or somewhere.

Ms. bachman would you and the rest of the clown car QUIT putting your religion, obstructionism and nonsense in the air.

Now she can go back to Minnesota and continue to pray her husbands "gay" away. Nobody, but the media bought this clown, and they couldn't push her on us fast enough. She never had a prayer.

Sad that Marcus won't get to be First Lady though. He was looking forward to decorating the WH...

All you folks talking about Mitt not being conservative enough or religious enough or this or that. Do you honestly think that anyone who is a conservative will vote for Obama? Mitt will get every republican voter plus at least 60% of independents, and that is not good news for this President, not good at all. Will Obama win?, maybe, but maybe not. We shall see, but don't think for a second that the conservative voting block won't support Romney come election day. They will be out in force because they want Obama gone.

Michelle Bachmann knew long ago she wasn't a viable candidate for president--why did she ever embark on this "Herculean" effort of a campaign, well, I'll never know. But hey, at least she recognized her odds after last night's finish and bowed out--gracefully.

Gotta give her credit for that, if nothing else.

Maybe she'll team up with Sarah Palin and run around the country scaring people in that big bus while doing a book tour.

Or she can find Herman Cain and do a book tour. Then join with Gingrich and do a book tour.

The possibilities for washed up politicians are endless!!

JCB -- Mitt will get all of the Republican vote? Not likely...there are a LOT of Republicans out there who won't vote for a Mormon...they'll either protest vote or just won't vote at all. And as for him getting 60% of Independents? Overly optomistic much? LOL

get your heads out of the political sand kids !!!!! they love this chat,they think you care...GET REAL.....its the GOV.they will do what ever it takes TO SCREW YOU...so now you give your cash ,,,your life ,,,and your thoughts!!! FORGET ABOUT YOUR VOTE

JCB,

In the final analysis I agree 100% with you... posted similarly on other threads. For the short term "show" however, let's see how much damage Romney takes from the others (like Gingrich yesterday). With the economy slowly but surely on the mends and the wars on the downside, it is hard to imagine a big flip to the flipper.

"You mean even the wingnut Evangelican Iowan voters realized what a kook she was?"

Hey now! Don't lump all of us into THAT catagory. SOME of us realize that she is the devil in drag. (Oh! Her homophobic azz would just LOVE that.)

;-)

JCB is right unless every democrat comes out. Definitely going to be an interesting year in polotics.

JCB-I voted for Obama and I am very disappointed in his DOJ and many of his positions and his willingness to play patsy with the republican obstructionists. As for insider money, well thanks to the American ultra right it is an absolute necessity. But I will most assuredly vote for Obama again because when it comes to righting the economy or keeping us OUT of wars the republican party is dangerous, incompetent even frightening. You can waste your vote on Ron Paul but we must vote in Obama over ANY of the republican clowns or your kids will end up dying in the Iranian desert for the republican party is the party of perpetual war. Believe it.

The only one who didn't see this coming was Bachmann herself.

Na-nana-na-nanananana!!!

Sweet, 1 down 5 to go.

Michelle who????????????????????

Michelle Bachmann knew long ago she wasn't a viable candidate for president--why did she ever embark on this "Herculean" effort of a campaign, well, I'll never know. But hey, at least she recognized her odds after last night's finish and bowed out--gracefully.

That whining, sniveling, god has better plans for me, the American people do not want healthcare drivel is considered by anyone as "bowing out gracefully?" She can't even read a written speech gracefully. OMG - the woman is flippin' nuts. I can only assume that her god is opening another window for her - hopefully at the top of a 50 story office building.

yes she is the worst person on earth. people dieing because they are poor. no health care. i think god

got her back . i hope see looks to the sky and say im sorry.she lost because the one term president got old. all she never said is obama is one term and health care . she got millions of dollars from the government . not one cent of the money she has came from her all came from the government . gov. paid for her farm , for her guys , her house she lives in and her business he got money from the government to run that . HERE 'S THE PICTURE AND SHE WANTS TO PLAY IN THE BIG BOWL? she has to be the worst person in the united states . i wish cnn new come to my home and let me tell everyone how bad she be for this country. or abc news

I can still have more respect for this lady then I ever did for Sarah Palin.

Carianne

you made me laugh,...I feel compelled to say - as I saw someone point out on facebook several weeks ago,..."...and on the first caucus, G-d Rested..."

PS. I'm just saying... that has to be the most FANTASTIC avatar of ALL time! Props!

but don't think for a second that the conservative voting block won't support Romney"

What you miss is the fact that these people tend to stay home rather than vote for people like Mitt. Remember they chose McCain over him and that was a disaster....

Sort of agree Bluelake, but I think Romney is just saying what he does just to get the nomination, then a quick turn to the middle ala Obama. I want Bloomberg to run because he's been a great Mayor and I think he will win. the Supreme Court made the "money" issue even worse than before, but I do not think Obama is a shoe in, not by a long shot.

Carianne, there are well over a dozen Mormons in the Congress including Harry Reid, about half Republican and half Democrat. When push comes to shove ALL republicans will vote for Romney unless there is a third party candidate. The will not stay home because they hate Obama more than they do Mormonism.

Btw Bachman won her county (the one she was born in) by a whopping 3 votes!

Oh, thank God! One less car on the crazy train. For each one of these "Social conservative, Obama's an Indo-Kenyan-Socialist-Muslim- Who also manages to be in the pocket of Wall St, We'll invade a citizen's privacy and say we're about limited government, Corporate Owned-Grass Root, Pray Away the Gay on Medicare's Dime while B*&%% about Government Spending, Sharia Law, the Gay-Mexican-Muslims are Coming to Chew up our Fetuses, Hypocritical, TP jokers" (whew) that drops out, America's IQ raises another 10 points.

Carrieann - you are correct, Ron Paul supporters are not going to vote for anyone but Paul and 21% can be huge nationwide as it was last night.

Gone, line a Nixon file, gone, gone away. (John Hiatt - Gone).

Who ever said that the Military Corpral with a tattoo on his neck should be brought up on charges..Are you serious? Why? Who says it wasn't there when he joined? and even if it wasn't then its not a violation because he's still in. plus he's in Your Not..So STFU.

Have the flying monkeys bring Bachmann's broom around front. Michelle is leaving and good riddance to her!

It's about time that self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic windbag got out!

And this coming from a conservative. Let's just say I'm not a fan.

The sad truth escapes people! not only does the Republican party have little to offer, we know the democrats have nothing either, we are all on a collision course with what ever hellish destination that's lurking around the bend, America needs a leader and there's none in sight. there is no point in cheering some one stepping down if there is no one to step up. The best of nothing is still nothing. and who cares who signs a piece of paper if what is written on the paper is BS. the problem lies in the hoard of thieves running Washington clean that mess up forget partie affiliation, do the country a favor and vote out the incumbents. the ones we have aren't fit to shovel $h!t They would just stand there and look at it arguing over who has the bigger pile. while serving the corporations that paid to put them there, thus making you shovel that pile of Sh!t.

marlen101917

Did anyone notice that Army corporal with the tattoo on his neck campaigning at Ron Paul speech (while in uniform) last night?

Big time violation of the UCMJ! His butt needs to be brought up on charges.

Army is a little more relaxed than say the USMC. He could also have been grandfathered in under the old rules. Also, if he was already enlisted when he got it, chances are he got his Commander's waiver.

There is no reason for anyone to think the people running for office have any agenda except money and advancement in the world of Fox. Romney wants to be the first Mormon president but cannot relate to anyone but his like minded worshipers. Who goes to that 3rd word country France for their missionary commitment. Its also all about money and how to make sure a very few get and keep it. Americans have left their country to be run by politicians, bankers corporations, people with unearned income and wall street . Most presidents have been elected by less than a million votes. They dont care what we think because they tell us what we want to hear and not what is true and we listen to their guarded hate mongering and dont think or investigate. How can you believe what they say. Our Supreme court is a joke and an arm of the right wing neoconservative moneylenders. Who is funding this crap of a campaign, try and find out. Bachman and all the other halfwits who have littered this years "political scene" are just a diversion. We are stuck with Willard and his ilk to dirty up our countries future. Obama is not the President we wished but he also has not had a chance surround by the repub crazies on both sides of the aisle and the useless no backbone dems. Also the teaparty electees are nothing but rookie homegrown terrorist who have brought us to the abyss with their lack of knowledge. Look what we have to pick to run our country. Our we all nuts to have allowed this to happen. Get involved and look at what your representatives do vote out every last one who doesnt work for you and our country, not special interests. Stop nitpicking about small prior things or your dogma and lets get some candidates who love america and americans more than money and power. You will be surprised how they will respond if they know we are really watching what they do. Leave religion in our churches and lets get bipartisan. Down with the dividers!!!! God Bless America

@downrightstown.....in combat uniform at a campaign rally is what I believe the reference of UCMJ was about.

http://www.sldn.org/pages/legal-issues-rules-of-advocacy

SLDN has put together rules governing political advocacy by service ... Rules of
Advocacy for Service Members ... You CANNOT wear your uniform to the rally. ...
You CANNOT campaign for a particular candidate representing yourself as a
military ... technically remain subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (
UCMJ). ...

This particular link was talking about DADT rallies, but applies to ALL political rallies. There are many other links as well to this issue in a search for the rules.

Here is another link of what service members can and cannot do:

http://www.knox.army.mil/sja/documents/Adlaw/Political_Activ...

whew,so long iron lady...i'm conservative but i was counting up the number of wars she was promoting and it almost exceeded the number of arabs world wide...also sounded like she was going to go after the rest of us by suspending habeus corpus and implementing drone therapy...

sorry to see wendy whinner leave (cry Baby) for President

You know, its just too bad that she decided to end her campaign. she provided a much needed comic relief. While we still have Rick Perry, its just not the same. Clueless is just not the same as crazy.

Well, it's time to pack the bags and a few dog-eared campaign brochures and turn the darn old GPS thingy on, and punch up directions to Saturn........

Mitt Romney, he da man....gave us Romney care here in Massachusetts, and unlike George W. Bush,( Harvard Business School) Romney has 2 Harvard degrees...one from the Law School,one from the business school......that's one more Harvard degree than Obama !

Did you know George H W Bush was born here in Milton, Massachusetts, went to High School in Andover,Mass., as did George W, Jeb Bush and Jay Leno. Barbara Bush went to college here too.

Good news to this commie pinko liberal from the atheist leaning East Coast. Michele; May your remaining endeavors tread lightly on those with contrary world views and for what it's worth, God Speed.

Here's the new song for the Republican party,

"Another one bites the dust"~

Hopefully they all follow Bachmann..

Posted: Jan 2, 2012:

Deservedly like Cain, she will soon fall off of the political stage.

#1.40 - Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:51 PM EST

Thank God, this awful candidate is gone.

Bachmann's fall from the political arena happened sooner than I thought it would.

In October 2011, her New Hampshire's political team abruptly walked away from her.

...what a smart final decision they made!

Bachmann's bowing out of the presidential race is good for America.

Her next step should be to find a doctor to treat her mental health problems.

The Republicans now have just 4 wackos left.

She Says, "She decided to drop out", LIAR

NO the Repubs Decided that they were DROPPING Her, She was even too crazy for the Repubs..?

I Love The Way You LIE...!

It's about time that self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic windbag got out!

Mike, stop making fun of Obama, it's just not nice.

"Gay Mexican Muslims are coming to chew up our fetuses?"

Sarah, I think I love you. Do you think you could find happiness with a man who is old enough to be your grandfather? Do you like dogs? Ya gotta like dogs or it will never work out.

Gay, Mexican, Muslims....geez, I wish I'd said that.

Obama/Biden 2012

" Weeeeeeeee're off to see the Wizard, the wonderful wizard of OZ........"

Maybe the guy behind the curtain can find a brain for you too Michele?

"............Well?.......Looks like we win!"

The new "Typhoid Mary" for anyone still running! God! I hope she doesn't endorse Romney......

"Romney.............................cannot relate to anyone but his like minded worshipers.

Gerald O'Hara to his daughter, Scarlett: "What difference does it make WHO you marry? So long as he's a Southerner & thinks as you do."

Thanks Skip, alas I have a no marriage to random internets dudes, policy. I always appreciate a good compliment though!

"alas I have a no marriage to random internets dudes, policy."

LOL

Dr. Ron Paul is the biggest "Nut" running in the GOP pre-campaign for President.

Truly Sarah, That was priceless!

"Mike, stop making fun of Obama, it's just not nice." - Tad

Agreed, Tad. Having had that brought to my attention, I suppose I should have been more clear. LOL.

As a woman, I cringed every time she opened her mouth and made one of her ridiculous comments.Women like her, Sarah Palin AND the first lady all seem to be out of touch with reality and the problems facing Americans.

So far the only ones spouting about religion on here, are the ones complaining about people spouting about religion.

Sarah,

I understand. My wife said "no" already.

But, "...random internet dude..", really? Now that hurt.

I like to think of myself as a cut above a "random internet dude." More like a wise and kind random internet grandfather with a twinkle in his eye.

Keep up the good fight random internet dudette.

Obama/Biden 2012

Ok as far fetched as this may sound right now, I'm wondering if just maybe Michelle and Marcus aren't going to go hook up with Hermie Cain. It wouldn't surprise me if Hermie didn't grab her head and push it towards his crotch, when they were just getting started with their campaignes. I don't even want to think how Marcus fit into that, but I'm sure he did and maybe even more eager to participate than Michelle. But hey thats their business. I'm wondering how come they didn't ask Richie Perry to join them, maybe it was the rock at Rich Perry's camp, but I'm just willing to bet that Dick Rectorum was watching the whole time and telling them how deliciously disgusting they all were, while the whole time he was blowing up some party ballons. Well if the elections don't work out for them, I bet they could make one heck of a movie. I know and I'm sorry, I won't post like this again, but I just couldn't help myself this time, they were all such a bunch of aholes I just had too and hey, its possible it may have happened like this. Lol. Have fun.

Ok, I know, but at least the Hermie Cain part could of happened with Michelle.

When only five of every one hundred people supports you, among those whose views are already supposed to parallel yours, then it's time to get out. Michele Bachmann made the right decision. One could argue the same thing when only ten out of every one hundred of your own people support you... but power on there, Rick Perry. I'm sure the other 90% of your own party will come around any time now. Then once they do, you can start winning over the people on the Democratic and Independent sides.

JCB - "I voted for Obama, but he will never get my vote again. I voted for him because he was supposed to be anti-war and a non-politician. He is bought and paid for, all you have to do is follow his money trail. He is the ultimate insider."

How does voting for Romney help? Don't you think what you said about Obama could also be said about Romney? Ron Paul is probably the only one running who is not bought and paid for, but he is crazy and would crash the country in the first year.

Joe,

I'm fairly sure the only person who would profit from that unholy and incredibly disturbing alliance would be Jon Stewart.

Skip,

My apologies, I should have used "slightly better known than random, however still comparatively a stranger, internets grandfatherly" type. :)

Bachmann is only good for making sandwiches.

Hi Aggie,

I've read them all and you are on the mark. I wasn't a Bachmann fan but she has some good ideas, as do all the candidates. I noticed something else, maybe you did/have as well. All of the people saying they want Obama again haven't said one word about why he's good, just that they hate, apparently, anyone from the GOP. Fair to hate I suppose, but it will be hard for Obama to motivate voters on such negative sentiments.

That said, if Republicans want to win, rather than take over if Obama loses, they had better continue with pro-growth/tax reform/spending cut policies. It's not enough, and shouldn't be, to be the non-Obama. Sure, you might win the office, but you will bring no reform inertia with you.

Hurray for M Bachmann! She beat out Huntsman. I know the Repugs never heard of him but a win is a win. On a more serious note, Bachmann will be missed about as much as hemorrhoids or cancer sores. Sorry girl the voice you heard wasn't God's and thus no miracles for you. So sad but your still a douche bag - bagger! Rot in Hades!

I understand that she is going to spend the rest of Winter in Sarasota, Florida. I hear that's where most circus clowns go to retire!

@Rich281385, Oh if you read most of the post people have been making since this started you'd see its not hate in the personal sense of not liking the party or person, but more the ideas of the repubes and teabums. I'll give you a hint if you want to read it. Most of the people want a fair chance at making a go of their lives and live a fairly nice life for the efforts they have put in and are willing to put into making them better. Not just the very wealthy like nice things but the "MIDDLE CLASS" also like to have nice things too and send their children to good and nice colleges so they may be able to get the jobs available to not just the very wealthy children that graduate from good schools. I might not agree with everything President Obama is doing but, I do know he's inherited a lot of the things he has to complete and the house and congress are wasting time just saying NO to make him look bad and lose the election. So its not a hate thing Rich, but sure it may look like it on here when its in writing and the correct enunciation of some words can't be heard, so their post are heard differently than they are meant in some cases. I guess the bottom line is most people hate where the republican and now tea party has gone to in politics, the country is not just for the very rich, the country is for all.

Too bad! She would have made GW look like an armature when it came to ruining the country.

Rich, I do think President Obama has done some good things til now and maybe he could of done more too had he not been stuck with the "NO" party thats just interested in their party and not the country. I do believe Obama on most things and I don't think he's out there to take apart the middle class and make it a rich, poor or a master, slave country. If anything I think he's the exact opposite of that. The good things he did til now started on the very first week he was in office, he did his best to keep the country from entering a very bad recession, maybe even a depression, that right there alone tells me he cares enough about everyone not just the very wealthy, because had that been a repube or teanut in office they would of let the countries economy be destroyed and the poor house for everyone except the very wealthy. So I guess if you have to choose between the lesser of the evils Obama's your man. Myself I don't want a repube in office again for a very long time now, I'm scared if one does get in they will finish what Reagan started and Dubya tried to finish and the depression will happen. See thats another thing President Obama is trying to do, he wants to make it so another depression never happens again. So he does have a lot of good ideas and he just needs the support of the house and congress instead of racists like he does now. If maybe Paul wasn't deregulating everything and giving it back to the people buy passing it back to the states, I just might of been interested in him as a candidate, to be honest if a repube does win, then I hope its him. I'd take my chances with him and a better America for everyone than all the other candidtes the repubes put up. So thats how I feel at least, if it makes anykind of difference, I just don't want you thinking I hate them, heck if I was out fishing with them people I might even think they are all ok in my books, but just not their ideas as presidents.

Hi softdude, do you mean an "amateur", or do you actually mean a shaft on which copper windings are wound in order to create the guts of a motor?

Hi Joe,

On the surface you might have a point, but when considered beyond the "sound" of the words you really don't. Take just your one example of wanting a good college education for your kids. Something decent and yet affordable. Who wouldn't want that? Well, the answer might just be...you. Here's why. The simple fact underlying the college market is that is IS in fact a market. You dump money into it so that more kids can go to college and colleges (because they are comprised of smart people, generally) will begin to increase prices. Read tuition.

Increases in tuition cause more people within the middle class you claim to want to help to have difficulty in obtaining the very college education you claim you want them to. We would do far better if we adopted, as you so unbiasedly wrote, what the teabums support, which is an end to all federal involvement in funding education, at whatever level, except for that which is authorized in the constitution. Like federal employees or beneficiaries which the Congress wants to pay for. Even this would still alter the market prices for education, but the effects would be minimal at worst.

So, to deal with higher costs for college that people such as yourself have helped to insure we would face, you then say that the best way to fix the problem you've caused is to tax other people so you can have their money for your own use. Or that your neighbor can. What I think is that you, like most liberals, hate the market, probably for the same reason most people hate things--they don't understand them. I say this because if you are sincere in your beliefs, as I suppose you are, then you must not be able to connect the dots I have put before you. But if you do understand how those dots are related to one another then any claim to wanting what is best for the most people can only, and fairly, be described as disingenuous.

There are many more examples of this kind of problem. One poster above said Bachmann wanted the USA in lots more wars. Well, of course she doesn't, and never said that, but the example of Iran is given. Yet Mr. Obama says a nuclear armed Iran is unacceptable. Unacceptable must mean we will do what we must to prevent Iran from getting nukes, don't you think? So, if Mr. Obama is sincere, then war, if Iran truly desires nukes, is our only option if WE are to do anything about it, presuming all other efforts fail. And they always fail. Of course there is another option, and that is that Mr. Obama and his supporters are not sincere, and that in fact a nuclear armed Iran is entirely acceptable. But if this is the case then we will have dealt ourselves a terrible blow needlessly, and our friends and enemies alike will take us less seriously in the future.

Sarah,

Oh I like that much better.

It would never have worked out, you're probably younger than my daughter. Besides, after 33 years together I'm kind of used to my wife and she's used to me and we're pretty happy together. Which puts us waaaaay ahead of most of the folks reading this thread. Besides, with a wife, a daughter and my beloved Bearded Collies "Honey" and "Hope" I've got enough females in my life.

I'll just have to love you (and your politics) pure and chaste from afar.

Take care and my very best wishes.

Grandfatherly and wise ol' me.

Obama/Biden 2012

NObama/ByeBiden 2012

Hey Joe,

I suppose that if you really think Mr. Obama, or anyone for that matter, can prevent recessions then we really do see the world in starkly different terms. A wise radio host once said that liberals see a world they wished exist, and conservatives see a world they wished didn't. There is something to be said for dreamy-eyed idealism--who would want to live life without fantasy--but when it seems so far removed from reality, as in your example of Obama wanting to prevent all future recessions, then what we have is delusion.

I hate to break it to you, but Mr. Obama made the recession, such as it is (which it isn't technically, but people feel as if it is), worse. Not better. Winston Churchill once described the act of trying to borrow your way into prosperity as an act akin to standing in a bucket trying to hoist yoursefl by the handles. And Churchill was right. We could pursue a pro-growth agenda, but we aren't. We are pursuing a pro-redistributive agenda. This will create no new wealth, whether for the rich, the middle classes, or the poor. I guess, to me anyhow, it seems as if my liberal friends care too much about perception and impression than reality.

Hi Rich,

Ok, college was just one of the things that came to mind when I made my comment and well when my son was about 5 yrs. old I was working for a small college that turned into a small university but still a bit larger than the college it has been. Then the tuition was going up anywhere for 12 to 20% a year. Now some of the universities have way more than just educations, the sports programs make the money for the universities but I'm not positive that moneys being distributed in a manner that its spread out all around the university as much as its just going back to the sports programs. I ask myself do they really need stadiums that are like the professional ones. Myself I would like to see that money go to the students with the brains than the sports programs that lets students graduate and can't read or speak properly when they get out. What can be done? Regulation? Will that hold back the students that can get educations and are also atheletically inclined too. Without anyone being hurt and deprived an education that they are qualified of earning, I do believe they need to have the smarts to be there and not a rich mans daughter just looking for a husband. I'm not exactly sure how that can be worked out so all the kids out there can do well and become something thats going to make this a better country. It would have to start in grade school with parents taking a very sincere part in it and I wish this government did more for education in this country and if you check I'm almost positive of this, the repubs are the ones that always cut back funding on the educations. I know for sure Perry wanted that, amongst others too. I wish I had the answers for that, but as you can tell I didn't go to school. Then war, I agree with you more than anythng on that. Why can't this country mind its own business and not get into wars, well theres too much money to be made for the right people when we are in a war. If you remember Obama never claimed to stop the war when he first started running, but it was somehow brought up that he would and he ran with it. Im not real pleased about that and he could of been a little more honest about that and just say where he stood with that but instead he choose to run as a peace maker. Now I pray he dosen't get involved more than need be in Iran. I also read a while back when Dubya was done with his terms and the article stated that he was in the wrong war and that if this country had a sincere interest in the oil to get out of the peninsulas and the middle east we needed to be in there working towards somekind of a solution rather than fighting in Iraq or Afganistan. Iran has been the threat to the oil getting out of the middle east now for a while and thats the oil that most of europe and Russia and China depend on. Russia and China don't have to worry, but europe does, they will be the ones affected if Iran decides to become stupid here. Now this can shut down a big part of the economy there and that will affect everyone. What power Iran has to be right in the middle of the waterways that transport the oil out of the middle east. I doubt they will ever change their ways as far as being who they are and wanting to be a peaceful nation, thats going to go along with the rest of the worlds progress. Now Rich, I have a problem remembering everything I read now days. The meds I take give me some trouble with that now. There was a time I took pride in my memory and as an example I could take a womens phone number and not write it down til I got home and I would be out drinking. I could impress a women back in the day. Oh well, I probably deserve this now, but what I was saying before was that theres a lot more to Iran than what we just hear about on the news. I do pray we don't get involve in a war there thats going to bring China and Russia along with it. That can be the granddaddy of all wars and just end the world as we know it right now. I would want to think that theres some solutions to this even with Iran being completely against western civilization but I'm not sure what the answer to that is. I'm not even sure an education in the day would help me now, the damn meds are the problem for me but I wish I knew what direction to think on that in the least, so I can at least put myself at peace with it. Now Santorum and Obama both claim that war is the answer there and I do remember when Obama got into office he was saying what would be so bad if we just talked to those people and now his views have changed on that too. So things aren't looking too good there. My guess is that for him to change his thoughts on talking to them, there must be a reason for it. Rashad Mendenall, the running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers twittered, how come no one trys to understand the reasoning behind them flying the planes into the towers and he was critisized big time for that. Ok, in a way I understand what he's saying, maybe its too late after they did what they did but maybe theres a good reason for it that everyone seems to want to ignore. I'm all for peace and anything that would keep it worldwide all the time but how do you go about doing something like that especially when war is profitable for the right people and so much easier for them too. War isn't good for anything. I just don't have the answers to it and so once again the lesser of the evils seems to be Obama to me right now, maybe Ron Paul would be good as far as iran goes. I want to think theres an answer there someplace. Well have a great night, great seeing your views on things. Later.

I had a feeling that was going to be a real long answer, sorry about that and I don't blame you if you don't read it. Have a good one.

There is hardly a point in telling a diehard GOPman what you like about Obama, the neo-cons long ago adopted a strategy of distributing and using talking points to defend any moderate and reasonable idea. Finally they will say your whole world view is wrong, that black is white, up is down. Somehow the very rich have convinced a whole bunch of never-gonna-get-rich-sheeple to mimic their rant. Obama is actually a moderate to conservative in practice, putting forth conservative policies over and over that had Mitt Romney done so, would have passed with GOPmen dancing in the endzone. But because of their irrational fear of him, they voted them all down. His "far-left" ideas and policies so often reported and blogged turn out to be an urban myth, a GOP lie. Typical.

As far as Bachmann, not to worry, there's still plenty of crazy cars on the train....

My point was not that we should remain disinterested in Iran and its consequences, but instead it was to point out the triviality the left makes of such things when people of the left make fun of someone like Bachmann for stating the logical outcome of President Obama's policy. Assuming the president is not operating cynically or dishonestly. If Iran is a problem then we should tell them what we can, or can't, live with, and then respond accordingly. But for pete's sake, don't say Iran's pursuit of nukes is unacceptable (whcich this president has repeatedly) and then criticize anyone who mentions we are likely going to need to attack Iran to stop them. It is the only logical outcome of this process.

I like anyone, Perry included, that wants less federal government in those areas not the purview of the federal government. This includes educational funding, whether direct to schools or to students. If your state, or mine, wants to give money to one or the other, or both, well that is an argument worth having. My point here was to show how the left's preoccupation with the concept that everyone should go to college, and so therefore we must fund it with grants and loans and the like, has in fact driven up the cost for that education and had a perverse effect on the very people you claim you want to help.

It's better to let markets work, to trust the millions of actors in this process to arrive at a collective wisdom far superior to the bureaucracy, and to deal with marginal problems at, in fact, the margin. In most cases, healthcare is another of these, the very fixes put in place by everyone wanting to do good has been the proximate cause of the problems we face today. Perhaps we should focus on liberty, whether political, economic, or religious, rather than on trying to perfect society by engineering outcomes.

Dear Mrs. Bachmann-

(evil laugh) MWAHAHAHAHA! Now we, the Liberals, can put in our socialist reforms into this country! We will allow gays in the military! We will be pro-choice! We will (gasp) NOT GIVE A DAMN YOU SUSPENDED YOUR CAMPAIGN!

The stupidity of this woman knows no bounds. Like America needeed your twisted Evangelical politics. Church and state are seperate. Yep, and so is the Asylum, dumba**.

Hi NC open heart,

It may have escaped your view given the blinders you obviously wear, but Mitt Romney has repeatedly been criticized for supporting at the state level similar ideas Mr. Obama has supported at the federal level. I don't expect you to know understand the similarities or differences, but they are important. Anyhow, I do think your point about political positioning has merit, though you view things from the left and I from the right. So perhaps Obama is not leftist enough for you, and too much for me. Ultimately I'd say that any president, other than those determined to be one term presidents who are willing to rip into their own congressional delegations--which means none--is constrained in large part by what voters will accept.

Obama clearly went the wrong way, according to voters, on health care. He's been largely neutered politically as a result. But where he has choices, like with appointees, he consistently leans hard left.

Thanks Joe, for your honest and revealing reply. You can bet that there is a lot more to things than meets the eye and that includes 911 and other events. As far as Obama and Iran, the Congress forced his position, he has not abandoned the desire to use diplomacy. There is a real treasonous war being waged against him. Between the GOP strangled Congress and the GOP placed beaurocrats, as well as a faustian deal that put GOPmen and faux-Dems in his administration (Geitner and Clinton), a front of obstruction and sabotage has emerged. Still Obama perseveres, a real leader, with far better skill than any of the jokers the GOP has offered. In 2012, we, the open-hearted Americans, will give him what he needs, we'll throw out the obstructionists and continue to expose the saboteurs (read office of mines and materials, DOJ, Pentagon, CIA, etc.). Then our grandchildren will be able to look forward to a promising, and sustainable future instead of the systematic enslavement to corporate interests they enjoy now......

@Joe 1072601: Paragraphs, please! My eyeballs thank you.

BTW Rich, thanks for the uninformed judgement, but I'm actually a conservative independent, the fed governs best when it governs least, yet it has real and necessary functions that must be sustained. And I believe we made the same point, Obama and Romney follow the same moderate principles. The only apparent reason Obama has not been more effective is that he is a Democrat of mixed-race, thus the GOP must destroy him at all costs. How reasonable is that? Don't know where you get your talking points, but actually Obama care polls well among it's beneficiaries, so......

Ok one more thing before I have to go Rich. Why did Obama want to go with electric cars, so we would be self sufficant and not depend on oil and basically stay out of Iran. That didn't fly for him, the money they gave to a lab. was spent on who knows what, but now the moneys gone and nothing came out of that. Something has to be decided on, thats going to make this country self sufficant and a direction needs to be taken that hopefully makes us a world leader in a product thats going to be the thing of the future and make the whole world a better place. I hope I'm not dreaming here and trying to be realistic about this. I remember barely but reading I know that Ike went and started the space program when he gave scolarships to a lot of people to get that program going. I believe than most of the people working on that program were under 30 at one time. Now I haven't seen anything come out of anyone as far as progress and making the country a better place. Everyone seems to focus more on war instead of something thats going to put people to work in this country. Did you happen to hear anything on these lines from the republicans running? maybe they are waiting on that until its closer to election time so they can beat Obama, but as far as I'm concerned Obama has the biggest interest in that as far as I can see. Thats one of his good points, I was talking about earlier. Now instead of the bickering thats been going on with congress and the senate how come they aren't working on something like that. Now as far as Churchill goes, he's not living in these times and getting out of a bucket using the handles might not work but a new program will cost money, just like it cost Ike when he gave the scolarships for the space program. Myself the way I see thngs right now, we're going to have to take a step backwards to move two steps forward. Really, whats the difference right now, we're in way over our heads because of war and if we went and tried smething peaceful thats going to make our country self sufficant and put our children to work then money has to be spent to do it. Its the same as when you graduate high school, you don't have any money to pay for your college education, so you get loans and your in way over your head but you know one day this will pay off for you when you get a great job and you pay off the loans, everything after that goes into your pocket. If theres a different way of doing this, I don't know of one and war isn't the answer, even if its a money maker for some. So I do want to live my fantasy and I'm going to continue hoping one day someone will come up with that idea thats going to put peace and prosperity back to this country.

DonWrightsman

I think the reason he said he should be bought up on charges is that the Military are not allowed to engage in Political activity in uniform at all,,THis is embodied in the Hatch Act as well as Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 (DoDD 1344.10), Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces

Guidelines laid out in the federal Hatch Act specifically prohibit uniformed members of the military from making political speeches or taking official roles on political campaigns. Members of the military are permitted to attend political rallies, but must not be wearing their uniform while in attendance. On stage with Paul, Thorsen was wearing green Army fatigues.

Amen! Well I guess there really is a God...

Glad I don't have to hear her stupid comments anymore...

They weren't really comments, Terry, they were more like McCarthy mixed in with some hardcore Bible jibber-jabber and a brain that had about 85% of its stem cells dead.

Dang it I forgot one thing. So for Obama at least trying with the money he gave the lab, I have to at the least give him some credit for thinking in that direction, because I haven't heard anything from the repubs yet. I haven't heard anything on these lines from any of the repubs since when Ike was president. So thats why I'm living this fantasy another four more yrs. with Obama at the helm. Obama/Biden again. Maybe with some help this time he will be able to get something started besides war. I would hope people see where the problem lies and they vote a new congress and senate in, one that wants to work for the people. Ok, thats it this time, I done. lol. have a great night Rich.

Sorry@ Mtngrrl. Yeah, your right, way too, too long of a paragraph there, sorry about that.

This is heart breaking news! Bachmann was the only insane woman in the GOP race. Now all we have is group of insane GOP guys. Oh well, the Republican dog and pony act moves on without everyone’s favorite paranoid schizophrenic...

hmmmmm, Did her God tell her to suspend it, or was it the non-voters that told her she was a LOSER?

She did say that God told her to run, but I think her god told her to run off a cliff or something like that.

BigAl, I don't think John Walsh was running...

Joe

You bring up excellent points, and I will state that you are not living in a fantasy world, but reality... the Republicans are the ones in a fantasy world.

As you stated, we need to invest in industries that make us self-sufficient. This creates jobs and helps us move forward. (We are already lagging in technology behind other countries) The Republicans want to cut taxes for the rich and "hope" that these people create jobs. Basically, they are crossing their fingers and hoping their fantasy of job creation comes true, even though it did not work the last time. The way I see it, investing in an industry will create a job... because you are investing the money into the actual job. Giving a tax cut and crossing your fingers is nothing more than a fantasy... a hope that maybe, someday, someone might create a job here in America, if we are lucky.

To compound on that issue, most Republicans want to cut costs by cutting government jobs. The term "cut costs" is a nice way to say, "Lay off a couple hundred thousand workers." The very idea of increasing unemployment, at this time, is frightening to say the least. These people spend the money they make, they put it back into the economy, they create demand. You can not improve an economy by cutting demand. This is basic economics, yet the concept escapes many Republicans. Now, that is not to say that a big government is good... no, I think it eventually needs to be cut. However, timing is everything, and now is not the time.

I think your example of a person leaving high school is spot on. They can take their little education, get a low-paying job, and cut personal costs to slowly... very slowly... increase their wealth. Or they can spend money on college, put themselves in debt, and get a much higher paying job that pays off the debt at a later point, and thus increases their wealth at a faster pace.

Hi NC open heart,

Sorry to have offended, but you in no way exhibit anything even remotely regarded as conservatism. On the one hand you say, because it sounds good perhaps, that governing least is best, but on the other hand you argue that we need much more of Mr. Obama's energetic federal policy making. You can't have it both ways.

It's too easy for people such as yourself to claim racism when citing reasons that Mr. Obama is opposed. It cheapens you, and it doesn't serve the body politic well at all. This isn't to say that some people who oppose Mr. Obama do so because they are racists, the same as there are some people who voted for, and continue to support Mr. Obama, because they are racists too. The debate should be, and with me is, about his policies and if they help or hurt, are constitutional or not. You can chalk it up to racism, but the problem for you is that you brought it up, not me.

We did not, in any event, make the same point. You argued, incorrectly I claim, that Obama is opposed where if the same policies were supported by Romney he would be supported. That is your racial presuppositions at work, and I made the point that Romney is being hit hard for his policies (which is exactly why Obama is being hit hard). At least Romney, who I do not support but would in a general election because even if he is Obama-lite that is still better than Obama, makes the case the ideas he holds which are similar to Obama's should be state functions, and not the federal government's purview. Your reply? The federal government has real and necessary functions that must be sustained. Whatever that means to you I don't know, but if it means that Article One duties are federal responsibilities then I agree. Is that what you mean? Or is it something larger, and more malleable, something where whatever politicians vote for, the president signs, and five justices on the USSC uphold, then it's a federal duty?

Lastly, to your point that beneficiaries of the ACA support it. Well, sure. Who among us doesn't want something they think is for free, or at least reduced cost than previously, and is happy when they get it? Polls consistently show more people oppose Obamacare than support it, and the elections of 2010 cannot conceivably, even to the most hopeful delusionists among us, be thought of as anything other than a rejection of the one signature accomplishment of this president.

Hi Indie Party,

It is an economic reality that when the government takes a dollar from you to invest it in me, regardless of what I plan to do with it, that no new net wealth is created. No new net jobs are created. What is accomplished is a redistribution of wealth from whoever had it to whoever it was given. The only way out of this is if you can make the claim that the government is more efficient at investing and/or spending than millions of individuals and firms.

If that is your belief, that the government is far better than you at spending or investing your money, then it makes perfect sense you would want the government to create a cradle-to-grave socialism system. But what an odd concept, particularly when we have a political system designed to be limited in scope, to think that the bureaucracy is wiser than the collective actions of individuals. Perhaps you are willing to take a stab at the question: When in history has this ever worked out to provide more wealth and more liberty? Heck, forget liberty (most Americans already have, imo) and just show when more wealth was created this way.

I think the reason you believe the government can create jobs is due to the obvious ability we have of seeing beneficiaries, but not seeing victims. We "see" the new factory worker, or the new social worker, or the new construction worker, but we can't "see" who lost their job to make that possible. Which makes sense--it's too hard to connect the economic dots to see those now out of a job so that we can have something. But it does happen. Nothing accrues to our benefit without there being a cost to obtain it.

So we can have the cleanest air and water possible, but it means there must be fewer jobs. We can have higher wages, but it means there must be fewer jobs. We can have the government invest in preferred industries, but it means there must be fewer jobs. Otherwise we could create nirvana at no cost. No one, not even Paul Krugman, believes such tripe.

Jon, Stephen and SNL are going to be terribly dissappointed by this news!!!!!

You forget, Yank, we still have PERRY!

Goodbye cruel world...

I'm leavin you today...

Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye...

Goodbye all you people...

There;s nothing you can say...

to make me change my mind...

(Whisper) Goodbye---

:)

DonkeyHoty, your avatar is making me giggle.

The US is not ready for a female President, particularly not a bad one. The Bible states want men in charge. That means the conservative Christians wouldn't vote for a female. Michelle, being a conservative "Christian" (quotations indicating moniker may not be justified), can't even vote for herself.

So, the US would have to find somebody so fantastic that the missing Christian vote would have no effect on her. And the Media would have to love her. And Corporate America would have to love her. And Middle Class America would have to love her. And Wall Street would have to love her.

See? It's impossible.

WoodieRae, this is scary but true. When I think about the uphill battle a female candidate faces, I cringe for this country. I laughed out loud reading your comment because you nailed it - virtually every opposing group in this country would have to simultaneously love a female candidate to push her through the polls. Alas, this does seem impossible. Although I think we can all agree, even if a female candidate does come around that everyone can rally behind, Michelle Bachmann was not that candidate.

So if Bachmann's out. She turned er' campaign off. Her bus is in overdrive to get home. Does this give her an old band name? "Bachmann's Turneder' Overdrive?"

Very sorry.

Good By Michele, good thing you didn't quit your day job. How many millions of dollars did you spend on this little experiment of yours? Was it fun? How much heating oil would the money have bought for our 90plus year old middle class Americans? You know Michele, the old folks who made this country great. The ones who worked hard their entire lives and at 95 find that with their old age and the cost of living they find it hard to make ends meet. That $4.00 a gallon heating oil, and 80 cent oranges, and $2.00 a dozen eggs have really put a dent into their funds. By the way Michele they raised 10 children.......blah blah blah......

Well Michelle,

You have been " Terminated ".

4 more left to exterminate.

Hasta la vista Baby !!!

Woodie,

Good point. I truly believe that an electable female candidate is not possible from the right-wing, seeing as their agenda has a decidedly anti-female ring to it. Most females aren't going to vote for these "Uncle Tom's" that want to role our reproductive rights back, limit the definition of rape, and oppose the Paycheck Fairness Act, ergo they wouldn't get independant/liberal votes. That's also in addition to the contradiction you mentioned about fundementalists, gender roles, and a female in charge which would keep them from getting the right-wing votes.

I don't know if it's just me, but the female political figures you hear the most about are the right-wing ones that carry a patriarchal agenda and tend to be a bit better looking. Clinton, Warren, and Pelosi, who carry a pro-women's rights agenda, don't get half the air time of Palin and Bachman, but those three would win a battle of the brains with their hands tied behind their backs and sacks over their heads.

Things that make you go hmmmm......

P.S. Also, when we do have a female nominee, I gaurentee you she will have to be unmarried. The family, gender role, stereotypes run the entire length of the political spectrum. I really believe that it isn't so much the thought of the woman having the power, but that of the "First Husband", and all that implies in regards to family structure, that turns Americans off.

That Bachmann bimbo had to go and thankfully, she is out. Hopefully never to be heard from again!!!!

She's pretty hot for 55. I'd smash

You have two parties one who’s taxes have gone down for the last 30 years the same one that has failed to give its work force a rise over it efficiency of work due at the same time. Talk about keeping the fruits of your labor, who’s fruit? Our labor is the source of their wealth. Why is it that candidates say we need to stop giving money to the poor and yet we keep bail-out business and we keep subsidizing industries. Why can’t we stop going to wars? They say we have interest in those areas, that we need to keep flowing our way. Gee, wars and military cost money how many gallons of gas will $800 billion have bought, that was the cost of the Iraq war.

Liam,

It's really very simple, we have to get the money out of politics. Once we do that, government will return to what it was originally meant to be, namely a social contract, the consideration of which is freedom and opportunity in exchange for hard work and legal behavior. The interests of "big money" like weapons manufactorers, giant corporations like WalMart and GE, and the too big to fail banks, will no longer have the means of buying deregulation or military conflicts, or tax breaks, ergo our politicians will return to being dependant on votes from constiuents as opposed to super pacs and lobbiests.

Overturn Citizen's United and Valeo, and watch how easy we balance the budget and get our economy, infrastructure, and education back on the right track.

I agree with Sarah. :-)

"We had joy, we had fun, we had seasons spending funds. But the lines that I preached were just starfish on the beach."

The money spent by these bozos on their campaignes without any promice to them, could of put a dent in the countries deficit. The money spent during the time they started til now could of been put to some real good use. Instead they wasted it. To me it was nothing more than throwing money in the toilet. Oh yeah, flushing it too. Amazing how the Cooch Bros can put up this kind of money thats wasted, but won't pay a little more tax. I don't get it, is it so bad to help the country when its needed but yet its ok for them to just waste the money. Ok, its a tax write off for them and they'll probably end up finding a few loop holes in it where the government ends up owing them money now. Ok, I see now, look I answered my own question. Then to top it all off, maybe all the money spent will get them a repube in office and they end up making even more money, from us. I guess its more of an investment for them, if their person wins and sort of like the stock market in a way but more like going to a casino and putting all their money on red or black. Hmmm, go figure and then if they lose they will think of every possible way they can get it all back and some, from the working class. So in the end they just part with the money for a short period of time, knowing the whole time they'll get it back one way or the other. Ouch.

I actually saw a really interesting statistic that said, for what Santorum (who had comparatively minimal funds) spent on his Iowa campaign, we could've employed 301 firefighters in Iowa.

Again, things that make you go hmmm.....

Well it's well past Christmas and the "nut cake" is now ALL gone!

Now we just need to get rid of the, "fruit cake" (Santorum), the "rum cake" (Perry, don't tell me he wasn't drunk in that NH speech), Santa's elf (Ron Paul), and the "dick cake" (Gingrich, and yes I made that one up). Perhaps than we'll have an intelligent debate.

Check this out Sarah (look at the percentages of FIRE money in each campaign....even for those who CLAiM they've taken no special interest money):

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/10/mitt-romney-wall-street-money.html

One of Ron Paul's Super PAC's even has a scary name to it.....Revolution PAC, along with Endorse Liberty. It will be interesting to see how much these two Super PAC's spend trying to get him elected. Of course, like all Super PAC's, we will never be able to find out where that money comes from, thanks to the SCOTUS.

Sarah.

You're a well thought out and well written individual.

No wonder Skip has a crush on you.

Sarah-3043284

Maybe my point is misinterpreted, some of govt department have to revert to smaller % of the govt. But most have to just get better at what they do. How is it that no one has been jailed for financial crisis that has happen in mortgage loans and Wall St where every major player was embroiled in these obscene criminal scandals that strip billions from the rest of the world wealth. Why is it that that Citicorp can pay a fine without admitting to crime its not a fine anymore it becomes a bribe. You start placing anyone that profited from the action in pound your as* in prison for 6 month terms an see if miraculously this B/S don’t clean itself up. And with lenders let them die, I thought it was a good idea to save them, but they continue with predator practices on home loans and student loans and the undeclared bonus they give themselves. We don’t need a new political party; we need the one we have to do better.

BTW, sarah, have you been to www.faircampaignreform.us and joined the Popular Amendment Movement yet? The only way that we will ever change our election/campaign finance system is to get the two amendments posted there passed. The Election/Campaign Finance Reform amendment reduces the campaign season for ALL federal elections to basically four months......one National Primary Day just eight weeks prior to the November General Elections, with ballot filings just 60 days prior to the NPD. Severe limitations on individual/family donations to any specific campaign and absolute ban on all donations and third-party advertising by corporations, unions, non-profits, PAC/Super PAC's, etc. and total ban on Congressional lobbyists. There are actually eleven sections to the amendment. The other amendment is a Term Limits amendment that restricts all federal offices to a maximum of two terms House, two terms Senate, two terms President/VP.....in other words, a VP cannot be VP for two terms and then run for President if he/she has served in both of the Congressional (House or Senate) positions.

Didn't Bachmann just say yesterday how she was gonna push on??? What a quitter. Imagine if she was president... Then I'd be scared for this nation. Well, one down, six to go. Next we should whack off Paul and Newt and then let Romney and Huntsman go. Then let the two Ricks out-conservative each other and lose to Obama. Hopefully we can strengthen our gains in the Senate, retake the House, and destroy the Tea Party. That would be a great gift for December 2012. Or, if we all die on the 21st, at least we will have an America that won't be dominated by the Right-wing Taliban.

Obama/Biden 2012

Thanks everyone! And yes, Anti-Trust, I have!!!

I am pretty liberal, but damn, sometimes I wish there was a literacy poll requirement. "Would HAVE" not "would of". I understand it's (marginally) homophonic with would've, but come on--would of?

Don't be too harsh. Consider the source. Anyone that would support Wild Eyes is doing well just using the keyboard without damaging something.

Sam,

Did you type that using your thumbs or elbows?

Holly bat sh!ts I am on the floor LMAO!

Wow.... Listen to all the "Rhode Scholars" on this vine .... Nothing better to do but point out the limitations of others. I am pleased to see that some of you are at the very least paying attention while occupying a courtyard somewhere in the middle of downtown America.

Ok guys...not sure why you're being so mean to each other...

I'm glad she's out...now if the self-righteous one would just leave..

Wow PV, big leap there isn't it? Just because some of the people on this vine are liberal you assume they must be occupying a courtyard somewhere. Typical neocon.

The sad thing is that there are far more people out there like Sam voting, than there are of people who have any clue about politics or what's going on in the country. If I had a dollar for every person I met from a red state that votes republican straight ticket because their parents told them too, I'd be rich enough to vote republican.

sam-375180

Anyone who does not know the difference between "of" and the correct "have" deserves to be a Michelle supporter ... or a j--k supporter!

Got to -- I guarantee you Sam is going to be really pissed that you called him "homophonic". ;-)

these comments abt, "would of" are hee-lar-ee-us!!(hilarious) I CAN SPELL AND FORM GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT contraction words-Anyway, thanks for the laughs, made the sun shine brighter on my day!! LOL My punctuation and sentence structure may be a bit off, but who cares, and this isn't english class anyway, damnit, I'm 46, I've earned the right to "free flow" on here w/o being worried abt. human spell-checkers lurking to see if I'm dotting all my t's and crossing all i's......LOL

Carianne-it's easy to see how he can mistake homophonic from homophobic, come on, that's being tricky don't you think? I could easily see that slip up, especially if, say, he doesn't know the difference!!!! LOL

Nothing better to do but point out the limitations of others.

It's "nothing better to do than," not "but."

bluepanther - You're going to have to be more specific...

Got_To_Be, that's just funny! Still laughing lol.

PV - RhodeS Scholars. If you're going to try to insult the intelligent, at least spell it correctly!

Cariane,

I throw LOL around a lot, but rarely does someone get the LMAO. Homophonic! Ha!

Sarah...In reply to your post regarding a female candidate for president, there is one who could win and would be an excellent president IMO...that is Hillary Clinton. I think she has paid her dues, politically, has the savy to compete on a national stage in a debate and possesses a keen awareness of the world. It would be a great thing if President Obama were to entice VP Biden to swap jobs with Hillary Clinton and have her run this yr for VP. Imagine Hillary debating Chris Christie!!!...Thank you for "listening" to this "random internet dude" lol....

Got_to_be_kidding_me: You've convinced me. I'm never going to vote for Sam for president.

Now, will you apply your same literacy standard to Obama, and his "corpseman" gaffe? He didn't just screw up, he said it at least twice. So, it was clear he didn't have a clue what the word was. Not to mention, that was just one gaffe among many. The same could be said of Biden, with his "jobs is a three letter word" comment.

I don't have a problem with your policy, as long as you apply it equally to everyone. Something, however, tells me that's probably not going to be the case. My guess is that you have no problem calling posters on Newsvine out on their mistakes, but will give Obama, the most powerful man in the world, a pass when it comes to his mistakes.

But, I would love to be proven totally wrong. All you have to do is tell me you either didn't vote for Obama the first time, or won't be doing it again this coming election because of your literacy standard.

On a more positive note, you might be onto something with your literacy test. I've long felt that we should have a test in order to be allowed to vote. You should be able to pass a basic civics, history, current events, and candidate positions test before you're allowed in the voting booth.

In other words, you have to prove that you at least have a modicum of knowledge about our government and what the positions of a candidate are before you pull the lever. Of course, that won't stop a candidate from changing their position, but at least you will have demonstrated that you have a basic understanding of what you're about to vote for, prior to casting your vote.

However, given that liberals are up in arms about even having to prove that you're legally eligible to vote, I don't give a voting test much chance of ever happening. In light of Nancy Pelosi's position of, "uhh, we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it", that doesn't bode well for having to prove that you actually know what you're voting on. That would be far too dangerous for the liberals to accept.

I believe the correct term is homophonous.

Homophonic relates to musicality.

How's that for being a smart a$$?

Concerned,

I agree. She also has the special circumstance of being married to a former Prez, so family, gender roles aren't threatened.

Exactly MS. Not much hope and change in this bunch when you dig a little. Santorum will soon get his comeuppance too. Iowans pulled off their 'Hail Mary' late in the game - the press wasn't really watching and Iowa voters thought Santorum would be a safe play. The spotlight gets very hot. At least the scrutiny of Santorum will happen down the road a bit from Iowa - they're off the hook now.

Michael, you're hilarious, for real.

Michelle Bachmann is suspending her campaign because she ran out of funds and not because of a dismal showing. No one is going throw money out the window by donating it to support a loser. Huntsman next, and then Gingrich.

I think you missed Michael's point. Ann. The Republican field has seen an absurd number of "rising stars," only for nearly every single one to fizzle out. Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Gingrich have all had their time in the sun, and look where they are now. Currently, both Santorum and Paul are seeing decent numbers, but their chances of competing with the Mitt Money Machine are slim. And then there's poor, poor Huntsman, who has somehow managed to avoid the 15 seconds of fame.

Michael is exactly right. The fact that so many candidates have risen and fallen in succession says a lot about both the voters and the media coverage of this campaign. I think it was Ron Paul who appropriately characterized this race as an endurance test, not a sprint. I like to picture it as a horse race, with so many of the horses surging ahead, only to pass out from exhaustion (or, in Perry's case, tripping over his own tongue). The Romney horse is still going, and will likely win the nomination.

Then again, stranger things have happened, I suppose.

huntsmen is going to dark horse these primaries... i called it back in July. mark my words

I can see the GOP convention breaking into pandemonium as the delegates look around one last time for someone, anyone, who can beat Obama and has a REAL plan for moving this country forward.

I can see the GOP convention breaking into pandemonium as the delegates look around one last time for someone, anyone, who can beat Obama and has a REAL plan for moving this country forward.

You really believe anyone in the Republican Party has the slightest interest in moving this country forward? They would much rather we were back in the 1800's. When blacks were slaves, women were in the kitchen and they could exploit the working man with impunity.

Once someone is selected, they'll have no problem going up against Obama. The focus will shift and all of the BS he's been feeding the country for the past 3 years will be brought to the forefront. His true colors will show and he'll be easily defeated in Nov. The only thing that could derail this is a 3rd party candidate such as Trump or Paul (if he were to switch) who would siphon votes from the conservative base...otherwise, Obama is one and done.

ABO 2012

@cantakenomore You're totally not my cup of tea politically, but it's awesome you have the schizoid man as your icon. Truly awesome.

huh?

Canttake,

Go and make a $1000 bet with an Obama supporter that he will be defeated. Put your money where your mouth is.

What's a birth sate?

@Tonesmom8,

You said it right I hope this goes on until July 2012. This way everyone will see how crazy these fools are and the landslide will be on.

I disagree, cantakenomore. Too many in the GOP base want ABR 2012 (isnt that cute?). Paul wil never be backed because he likely cant be controlled the way the Koch Bros and Co want to control. This country still does not come close to supporting 3rd party candidates (does anyone really think Trump should be taken seriously,anyway?) . Santorum will have to really step up and show that he is capable of fund raising and running a full fledged campaign for POTUS. Also, his extreme social stances may prove to be too much for the many on the fence moderates to overlook. This is far from a slam dunk for the GOP. Actually, it seems like its closer to the opposite-if the Left shows up at the polls, the GOP doesnt have a chance. Obama had relatively quietly hit the 1 million in small contributions back in October..theres still a lot of belief out there. The country has watched Boehner,Cantor and McConnell act like spoiled babies. If they continue to use the same tactics, they too, will find the moderate on the fencers swinging away from them in disgust. I think the Tea Party has seen their greatest hits played out, and it's representatives are going to be hard presssed to hold their breath for 4 more years. While Obama is more center than many on the Left would like, he's still a much safer bet than anything the Right is showing.

Kelly that was a smart and thoughtful response....I'm with u 100%

Sorry cantakenomore .. but you will have to take another four more years of Obama :) you see, once Romney gets the nomination, Obama wil Thank, Kiss and Congratulate him for helping him Craft the National Healthcare Act.. which has already eliminated millions in waste fraud and abuse and is putting 30 million citizens into a healthcare system that republicans have enjoyed keeping sick people out of ...Obama will also discuss his Christian Faith .. something Romney will be totally incapable of .. unless he want to enlighten the Christians in this Nation about his Personal Prophet of the Latter Day Saints .. Joseph Smith ... I don't know.. would yourather elect a leader whose prophet is Jesus Christ ... or Joseph Smith ... ???? Hmmmmm

Or Maybe Obama will invite Romney to his Trophy Room .. where he keeps the Many heads of so many Al Queda leaders he has disposed of since his presidency ... Lets face it .. the world once again respects this nation... regardless of what Kool-Ade Faux news tries to make you guzzle down you Willing Throat ..... It's funny that the Farleigh Dickenson Study found that Faux New Viewers are actually More Ignorant than people who watched no News at all .. I guess when you're Lied to ALL DAY and Every Day ... and let the Liars tell you that , like some Mindless Automiton, you MUST only Watch them for fear of learning what the real workd thinks.. then you will wind up spouting two work bumber sticker slogans.. becaus e you left yourself a Vapid Wasteland if Ignorance.. the way the republican Electorate and Faux New likes you ... Loyal and stupid ... Yes Cantakenomore.. you can ABO all you want ..and I will be giggling in my cheerios whle you watch the Black President get sworn in .. ALL OVER AGAIN... :)

Got_to_be_kidding_me...

Thanks...always liked the cover...nowadays, it typifies what I feel like doing every time I listen to our elected-elite open their pie holes. Especially like the music on the album, though. Too bad these kids today have to download itunes and such. The old albums were so cool. Although, I don't miss the scratching and hissing sounds that came from a well-listened-to platter of vinyl.

New Moon Rising...

Why is it you on the left cannot have one damn thoughtful conversation without calling the other side stupid, morons, baggers, etc.? Makes you look a little intellectually handicapped yourself.

As far as who'll be the next POTUS, nothing you, I, or anyone else on this vine can do to change what will happen. So keep your slanderous remarks to yourself...

I believe Ohio, Michigan and Iowa will back Obama in 2012... call me crazy but once Ron Paul is wiped out those following him are more apt to lean Obama before they would lean GOP. But, if Ron Paul wins... Hello!!

cantakenomore.. I didn't call you ignorant... I said a Fairleigh Dickenson Study shows that Fox News Viewers are Less Informed ( That actually means ignorant ) than people who watch NO NEWS at all ... that's all I'm saying .. you figure out why that is .. is it because they are Loyal and Stupid .. or is there something in the genes of republicans that make them hate this country and the american Middle calss so much ..??

"The focus will shift and all of the BS he's been feeding the country for the past 3 years will be brought to the forefront. His true colors will show and he'll be easily defeated in Nov"

Absolutely let's focus on the garbage of which the Right has accused this President. Let's look at the FACTS and just as you will find on any decent fact check site they will show that 99% of the accusations made against this president have been false.

I heard Rush Limbaugh give an interview last week and he repeated lie after lie about the President. Hell, if I believed half of what the man was saying I would want Obama impeached. The problem is it is all BS motivated purely by the desire for political power. The screwy part is that many of you actually believe that a man earning $50 million a year who remains holed away in his ultra luxurious compound most of thetime speaks for 'the common man". Rather he tricks and deceives "the common man". It comes as no surprise that those who subject themselves to hundreds of hours a year of this programming come to believe it as truth. That's called brainwashing.

The Right is so warped that should you gain real power again we will see delusion become the flavor of the day. Truth will become secondary and evil. Just as Orwell predicted.

Hey Cantakenomore, I have been called a Democrap, a Lib, A Socialist, a Republi@!$%#, a Tea Bagger, a Nazi, a Leftie, a Freeloader and a Repuke. All on MSNBC forums. The United States seems less united now than at any time in my life. If there was ever a time that we all needed to come together and work toward the common goal of saving our republic, it is now. Unfortunately, we are all too petty and the lines in the sand get drawn by selfish people on all sides looking out for their own interests. Anybody with 3rd grade math skills could figure out that we will need to raise taxes on everyone and cut spending MASSIVELY to get out of the hole we are in. Nobody is willing to make the sacrifices needed to save our country. The rich want the middle class to take the load. The poor want the rich to do it all. If we want to save this country, we all have to be willing to do our part. What part of United have we all forgotten?

New Moon Rising...

And I suppose the left has no one who blindly follows like sheep being led to the slaughter? No, you are right...only conservatives are loyal, stupid, less informed (ignorant), etc.

Funny...I work for an engineering company that employs about 60 people...most of whom would be easily considered middle-class. I don't know of anyone who supports Obama or who would admit voting for him. As a matter of fact, when queen Pelosi and company controlled congress, they were many times the butt of political jokes going around in the office.

So, I'm not sure where you come off believing the middle class doesn't support conservative candidates. The way I see it, the left are the ones losing the support...look at the elections of 2010. The left views 2010 as simply a bad nightmare which the trend will stop in 2012. However, all we have to go on is the last election...and it didn't bode well for the democrats. I see no reason things will change in 2012.

ABO 2012!

I have been accused on these forums at different times of being on both extremes. I am middle class. At the beginning of the recession, I made $30.00 an hour. The recession killed that job. I had to take 3 jobs to make up for it. My reward for working that hard was my tax lady telling me to give up one of my jobs because it was not worth the tax burden I was creating for myself. I ended up owing $1800 in federal taxes. Family members who were unemployed or on welfare/disability got back $6000 without having paid a dime. And giant oil companies paid a smaller percentage of taxes than I did as well. I think that nobody should get more than they paid in. I think everyone should pay their share and I do not want to support those who will not work by working extra jobs. I do not want to give tax breaks to large companies who take the money and run overseas with the jobs. I'd say that puts me pretty firmly in the middle.

Keith...

Agree with you 100% The only question is which candidates will address and fix these issues. I am a conservative...not republican...BIG difference! I voted Libertarian last election because McCain was/is a far cry from a conservative. I tend to lean republican because I do not think large government and higher spending is the answer. Regardless, I too am disgusted with the lack of civility amongst the elected-elite as well.

Although I didn't vote for him, Clinton at least came to the center and worked with the republican congress. They showed it could be done and with very good results. I cannot support Obama no matter what, though. He's proven to be a divider...not uniter. It started with the beer summit and went right along with him calling republicans his enemies, to putting his own country down telling the world we've been "bad" in the past...I would have much preferred Hillary and I'm sure if the truth be known, so would the majority of democrats.

The focus will shift and all of the BS he's been feeding the country for the past 3 years will be brought to the forefront.

As opposed to all the BS the GOP's been feeding the country for the past 10 years, I guess.

well answer me this Cantakenomore.. .. if you think that the middle class growth over the past decade of 3 % with cost of living going up 4 %, then the middle class has effectively LOST Ground .. by Employers who made phenomonal profits ... meanwhile.. the wealthiest in this country have seen thier income increase by 273% !! .. so I guess my question to you.. as an engineer that works with numbers , is this ... How Much bigger MUST that percentage get for the Richest in thsi country before you conservatives STOP whining that they are being treated unfairly with a severe sense of class warefare .. soo PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell everyone on this Blog the magical Number !! the Percentage increase that you conservatives will finally Stop your bitching that the wealthy are being treated unfairy ...?? so if a disparity of 270 percent favoring the rich isn't instrinsic class warefare, then I'd like youto explain to this audience just what the hell you are talking about ..

Cantakenomore, your company is obviously in the deep South where the isssue is Obama's color, or your snake-worshipping religious fanaticism, not his qualifications. To tell the truth, I am not sure many libbies are proud of Pelosi, I know I am not. Compared to Boehner that wants to finish selling this country to big business, I would choose her as the less of 2 evils.

New Moon...

Sounds like you just need to work a little harder, bub. If you are losing ground financially, that's no one's fault but your own.

flbikerchick...

a very insightful and thoughtful response. Hope you didn't strain your brain too awful much coming up with that one.

bobb- Obama's qualifications? What qualifications? Someone who only voted "present" and who's claim to a job is a "community organizer?" The man is a naive ideolog who'll run this country to the ground! Good bye USA and hello failed Europe! Have you not paid attention to all the money (our money) he and his wife spend on vacations, and trips? Have you not paid attention to their (his and Michelle's) meddling in our affairs - even to what our kids should eat , while he and she both eat horribly. Could you possibly be blinded by the "light" of his claim as the first black prez, despite the fact that he's half white?

You did not respond to New Moon. His points about the concentration of wealth into fewer and fewer hands at the top of the economic ladder and the natural eroding and loss of wealth for others that must occur is well documented in the professional literature. The policies of Milton Friedman (often supported by both parties) including deregulation, trickle down economics and the privatization of essential government functions have led this country and others to the brink of economic disaster.

Instead you glibly brushed him off by implying that he and everyone else in the middle class just didn't work hard or smart enough. This is the usual response from those who refuse to see what is right before their eyes. A political and economic system that that has become almost feudal in nature. A continually growing cohort of people having to scrape by living hand to mouth while the corporate elite grow wealthier exponentially. It is a recipe for disaster.

Sounds like the same ol Pablum coming out of a republican mouth .. just work harder .. fact is, most of america works harder to make their corporate CEOS far richer than ever before in history ... you just can't admit that it's baked into the mix.. the average person has no problem with wealth, as nor do I .. but to protect, for principals sake only, the wealthiest 1 % from even having a Molecule more of their wealth taxed while gutting every saftey net this nation has built and colectively relied upon shows the republican disdain for the citizens and economy of this country .. who the hell do they think are going to buy products from manufacturers when people can't pay the rent because their pay is being intentionally suppressed on a national scale.

It's funny because they thought they had a chance. I just laugh. :D

They thought they had a chance because God told them (both) to run. The Big Guy really does have a great sense of humor!

capecodmom

Yes! The fact that they were publicly humiliated just makes my day.

Oh please, I hope the door hits her HARD on the way out. There's always a slim chance it'll knock some sense into her.

No loose the seat. No More Crazy Eyes looking at me through the TV. Dam she is scary, my son cries at night when I'm looking at her on TV making a fool out herself. I did not realize this until last night.

Barb in PA Michelle met her Waterloo in Waterloo! Her bus has run out of gas, and she may need some donations to get it back to Minnesota! You should start a fund for her to be able to do that.

Also, her district is up for re alignment and she would be running against a representative that has done something much more for the people of MInnesota than sponsor a single bill to save incandescent bulbs! Just shows how bright MIchelle's bulb burns!! She has spent more time roaming the country and chatting on Faux News that representing Minnesota! From a person she is supposed to represent.......good riddance!

Time for Minnesotans to step up and send her packing also!

Thank you Iowans! Your votes have started to clear the floor of the debris. Let's hope it's a clean sweep of a few more.

Huntsman doesn't act like he's got a sideshow for a Presidential campaign--which is why he's been blown off by the media. I think he's going to be a dark horse in the GOP primaries. Considering how this is just the beginning, we'll wait and see who comes out the winner. The media has been all but handing the GOP nomination to Romney. It's still early, things may very well change.

Let's hope her constituents have watched her carefully. If they have just a couple of brain cells between them, her seat is already gone.

Well there area few orphans left to be brainwashed.

Brian, yours is a comment that voices true idiocy.

Great, Then I'm in good company and qualified to post here.

No she should have been during the witch hunt trails.

Problem is when God speaks to people the message always seems to get muddled. I'm sure he said something like 'go run...in traffic'. He really needs to speak more clearly!

Just a thought,,

Was she admiring at a beautiful Vista from the edge of a high cliff when god told her to "RUN!"

Certainly would explain a lot!

It's like giving her knee pads and telling her don't suck.

solutions539,,,,,,Yep, that is democratic civility out of a little punk bitch you are!!!

I hope it doesn't recognize it. shhhh.

lol I don't think we are in danger of the right waking up. They have one candidate that could have been a contender... and he has been largely ignored. So many of those on the right are not politically savvy enough to understand that extreme will not beat Obama. The country as a whole is slightly right of center. That is where the candidate has to come from. Romney is probably a moderate.. but he has had to pull so far to the right to "out-crazy" the TP favorites, he doesn't have time to move back to center.

Now she can have time to do all kinds of stuff.

Like drill for oil and gas in the everglades.

Give me a break. America deserves so much better than these bozos.

Now she can have time to do all kinds of stuff.

Like drill for oil and gas in the everglades.

Give me a break. America deserves so much better than these bozos.

122,000 is still more than the last time..McCain finished 5th in the last election in Iowa..and he won the nomination. So you and your rant and rave is ludicrous. So CHILL. The only one that could make OBAMA look foolish in a debate is Gingrich. Ron Paul should be our president. and Romney saying "he has a working background in the private sector" What a joke..he was born Rich..So screw him and his nonsense

Making newt the grinch look foolish in ANY debate, can be EASILY done without saying one word beyond "Tiffany".

Some rides are designed to amuse, others to scare. I think see falls into the later category.

lol!!!

Yeah, well,, I was hoping that the gay bashing brain donor would stay in the race until her husband was outed,,, Oh, Wait, never mind,,, I think she did!

Imagine what the world would be like under this delusional excuse for a politician. Homosexuals would be shot on sight, probably by her gay husband, and the blond hair blue eyes rule might be placed into effect.

This is a shame, they could have renewed their vows and become the first same sex couple to get married in the white house!

Thank God and Greyhound she's GONE!

I like the women , I always like to look at her, she has a nice figure and nice voice and she looks great, I think she should have not quit, the way the guys are being found out, all she had to do was just last, everyone but her has things in their Closets that have/will put them out of the race, I think she could have turned it around, remember Nixon. I will miss seeing those fine legs on TV!

She had no chance, and got out, at least she had the sense to quit. She was extremely entertaining for all her bloopers. Santorum give me a break, his pro-life and gay bashing stance alienates him from 70% of the population. As for Wilbur "I flip my views every other day" Romney, has as much of a chance as Cain had in 2008, with Newt going after him, it's Obama 2012. Hopefully the tea party idiots will be voted out and things will get done in 2012, I can only hope.