Paul's surge prompting a new look from GOP voters

Ron Paul wants to legalize pot and shut down the Federal Reserve. He thinks the federal government has no authority to outlaw abortion, no business bombing Iran to keep it from acquiring a nuclear weapon, and no justification to print money unless it's backed up by gold bars.

And he might win the Iowa caucuses.

The closer the first votes of the 2012 presidential campaign get, the more competitive the Texas congressman has become. It's a moment his famously fervent supporters have longed for. Plenty of others are asking: What's Ron Paul about, again?

As in his two prior quixotic campaigns for president, Paul has toiled for months as a fringe candidate best known for staking out libertarian positions. As every other Republican candidate lined up to attack President Barack Obama's health care law and to promise tax cuts, Paul again demanded audits of the Federal Reserve and a return to the gold standard.

Leading in some state polls, Paul is getting a look from mainstream voters in Iowa, where the 76-year-old obstetrician has emerged as a serious contender in the Jan. 3 caucuses — and in other early voting states, should he pull off a victory.

The sudden rush of attention to Paul's resume hasn't been kind. He's spent the past week disowning racist and homophobic screeds in newsletters he published decades ago, including one following the 1992 riots in Los Angeles that read, "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to collect their welfare checks three days after rioting began."

"Everybody knows I didn't write them and they're not my sentiments, so it's sort of politics as usual," Paul said during a recent Iowa campaign stop.

Looking to cut into Paul's support, rivals laid into him on Tuesday.

In an interview on CNN, Newt Gingrich said Paul holds "views totally outside the mainstream of virtually every decent American." And Rick Santorum chided, "The things most Iowans like about Ron Paul are the things he's least likely to accomplish and the things most Iowans are worried about about Ron Paul are the things he can accomplish."

Paul returns to Iowa on Wednesday, giving his impressive grass-roots organization in the state a last chance to present, and perhaps defend, positions he's staked out over a long political career and reiterated during the 13 Republican debates held this year.

Paul has served a dozen terms in Congress as a Republican, but he espouses views that have made him the face of libertarianism in the U.S. He blames both Republicans and Democrats for running up the federal debt and opposes any U.S. military involvement overseas. He wants to bring home all troops from all U.S. bases abroad.

He vows to do away with five Cabinet-level departments — Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, and Interior — and repeal the amendment to the Constitution that created the federal income tax. He opposes federal flood insurance and farm subsidies and wants to remove marijuana from the federal list of controlled substances while allowing states to decide how to regulate it.

He says he'll cut $1 trillion out of the first budget he offers as president. He doesn't believe in a border fence but says illegal immigrants shouldn't get a free education in public schools.

He's reliably described by political pundits as non-establishment, quirky, unorthodox. During a Republican debate in Sioux City, Iowa, earlier this month, Paul defended his views and rejected the idea that they make him unelectable.

"The important thing is, the philosophy I'm talking about is the Constitution and freedom, and that brings people together," Paul said. "It brings independents in the fold and it brings Democrats over on some of these issues."

Paul doesn't always side with the most extreme conservative proposals. When it comes to Gingrich's suggestion that judges could be hauled before Congress to explain their rulings, Paul joined other Republicans in dismissing the idea.

Paul's recent surge in Iowa isn't the first time the GOP establishment has been forced to pay attention to him. A fundraising blitz that netted $5 million in one day in 2008 led Republican operatives to weigh whether he was a bigger threat to siphon votes than previously thought.

Now he may be in his best position yet to do more than just steal votes.

"I see this philosophy as being very electable, because it's an American philosophy, it's the rule of law," Paul said.

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Even Fake News Channel thinks Paul is crazy. You have to be certifiable if you are a right winger and Fox doesn't back you.

    Reply#112 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM EST

    So Ron Paul is the new Flavor of the Week. How many flavors does that make now, five by my count???Who's next, Ross ?

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    Reply#113 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM EST

    Actually, we can kind of hope Jon Huntsman. He is rational and well spoken and would make for a great contest.

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    #113.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:47 PM EST

    All reasons they will not let him out of the basement. He will not kiss their flabby posteriors.

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    #113.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:20 AM EST
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    Three NATO Military Troops Are Killed by the Taliban in Eastern Afghanistan…But Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kook Vice President Joe Biden Says, "the Taliban is Not Our Enemy."
    The latest deaths bring December's death toll of foreign NATO troops killed in Afghanistan to twenty-three, for a total of five hundred, thirty-nine deaths so far this year. But don't worry as Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kook Vice President Joe Biden says, "the Taliban is not our enemy."

    Three NATO service members have been killed by a roadside bomb in eastern Afghanistan, the alliance said Wednesday. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, saying the target was a U.S. military convoy.

    NATO's statement said that the deaths occurred Tuesday, but provided no further details about the incident or the nationalities of the troops.

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    Reply#114 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:44 PM EST

    This has what to do with Ron Paul?

      #114.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:42 PM EST

      Johny, you really need to watch other news stations besides faux noise. But keep voting aganist your own pocket book. Soon you also will be on the streets, with no job, no prospects for a job, and then you will cry it's someone else's fault. Suck it up Johny, you will soon be a dirty hippy, etc etc etc. In the mean time, I will be" ROTFLMPO.

        #114.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:52 AM EST
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        B. Hussein Obama Wants to Raise the Debt Ceiling AGAIN & Borrow Another $1.2 Trillion on the Democrat Party's Chinese Credit Card!!!

        Remember when candidate Obama called former President George W Bush "unpatriotic" for borrowing? He couldn't be serious? Wouldn't it be nice if "WE THE PEOPLE" had an unlimited budget and debt ceiling as well? These days the real "TRUE CRIME" is what is being perpetrated on the American taxpayers by our Federal Government.

        President B. Hussein Obama will ask the U.S. Congress to raise the debt ceiling ONCE AGAIN!! Who honestly thinks that this is the way that one handles paying their bills when they spend more than they take in? B. Hussein Obama is expected to ask for authority to increase the borrowing limit by ANOTHER $1.2 trillion IN U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY.

        B. Hussein Obama, the Hypocrite/Liar-in-Chief, called former President George W. Bush "unpatriotic" for raising the debt limit by $4 trillion during his eight years in the White House. B. Hussein Obama called it irresponsible and unpatriotic. So what does that mean you are Barry, for doing 10X WORSE in just three years in the White House? Please tell me some one at the GOP is already making this political ad for 2012?

        The White House plans to ask the U.S. Congress by the end of the week for an increase in the government's debt ceiling to allow the United States to pay its bills on time, according to a senior Treasury Department official on Tuesday. The approval is expected to go through without a challenge, given that the U.S. Congress is in recess until later in January 2012 and the request is in line with an agreement to keep the U.S. federal government funded into 2013.

        The debt is projected to fall within $100 billion of the current cap by December 30th, 2011, when the United States has $82 billion in interest on its debt and payments such as Social Security coming due. President B. Hussein Obama is expected to ask for authority to increase the borrowing limit by ANOTHER $1.2 trillion, part of
        the spending authority that was negotiated between Congress and the White House this summer.

        As the Lonely Conservative opines, America is not safe from this President {B. Hussein Obama} even
        when he is on his million U.S. taxpayer dollar vacation in Hawaii and playing his 90th round of golf. A tax and spend Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat like B. Hussein Obama always finds time to tax and spend ordinary American U.S. Taxpayers' money and raise the U.S. debt to even higher levels. The new debt limit will go up to almost $16.4 trillion. That's $16,400,000,000,000!!! Brought to you by our current Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left Wing Kook of a President and the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrats who refuse to pass a budget.

        What Pat in Michigan said…These people are just running our beloved country into the ground. For all things that are Holy and Good, please, please for the Love of God, vote this guy {B. Hussein Obama} out of office and provide us with a responsible Republican U.S. President and U.S. Congress/U.S. Senate in 2012. I beg you America, before it is too late. Aaaaameeeen!!!

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        Reply#115 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM EST

        Ummmm, okay. That wasn't an incoherent rant.

          #115.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:43 PM EST

          Yeah really, Where were you in August when all these negotiations were made? Isnt that what they called bipartisan agreement? Actually it was more a stunt to create this kind of talk in an election year and keep their dirty little hands off the garbage they pushed to Obama.

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          #115.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:21 AM EST

          Johny Bee

          B. Hussein Obama Wants to Raise the Debt Ceiling AGAIN & Borrow Another $1.2 Trillion on the Democrat Party's Chinese Credit Card!!

          You mean what Dubya did for 8 straight years increasing the debt by a whopping 42%??

          A feat Obama isn't even close to??

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          #115.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:36 AM EST
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          If Ron Paul becomes President, and I hope he does, we should fill the Senate and Congress with supporters of his platform, no matter what their Party affiliation. Let him get something done!

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          Reply#116 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:52 PM EST

          Yeah. We should do that.

            #116.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:52 PM EST
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            It's no wonder why the corrupt political machine (and their supporters) are afraid of Ron Paul... he wants to destroy their status quo. I hope you all realise that when he starts dismantling the crooked establishment, it will be at great risk to his life.

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            Reply#117 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:02 PM EST

            RP has my vote, his stance to interpret the constitution as it stands is refreshing. Considering every other tool in office is looking to exploit or mis-interpret the constitution for their own political gains.

            The Reps and Dems are all on the same side theirs. How does every Congressman and Senator make money in a failing economy? Insider trading and a failed SEC along with a review by the failed Ethics board and no one gets in trouble and it surely is not public knowledge.

            Those in office currently have been bought and sold so many times that they can not cover the promises they made to the lobbyists that donated to their re-election coffers.

            Amusingly more and more you see those in office having to give back money donated as the people giving the donations are caught breaking the law as they do not want to be associated with them. Corzine comes to mind...among others.

            You want a real change in direction for America how about actually reading the Constitution and abiding by it.

              Reply#118 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:10 PM EST

              Chalk up another casualty to B. Hussein Obama and Obamacare. The Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook, Democrat U.S. Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska who took the "Corn husker Kickback" scam deal with B. Hussein Obama and then voted for Obamacare, will announce today that he is retiring after two terms, a serious blow to the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook, Democrat party efforts to hold onto their majority in the U.S. Senate, next November 6th, 2012.The Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kooky, Democrat party actually thought that WE THE PEOPLE would forget what they did. Ha, hardly!! Presently, 53% want Obamacare repealed, 39% oppose repealing it.

              The Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing Kook, Democrats CURRENTLY have a slim advantage in the U.S. Senate, however, it will be almost impossible for them to retain power following the Nov. 2012 General Elections. They could have easily lost control in 2010 had it not been for a couple of Senate races and incumbent Democrat Senators resisting the wave of change. Democrats are far too vulnerable to regain control.

              Other vulnerable Democrats like Sen. Claire McCaskill (Missouri) and Jon Tester (Montana) also face difficult re-election fights. There will also be costly U.S. Senate races in the swing states of Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania, featuring Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing Kooky, Democrat incumbents Sherrod Brown, Bill Nelson and Bob Casey. President B. Hussein Obama's re-election campaign is expected to spend heavily in those states, potentially giving a boost to Democrat incumbents.

              What did not occur in 2010, the GOP looked good in 2012 to regain control. The Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing Kooky, Democrats have to defend far too many seats, many of which are in "RED" states or ones trending red. Between Democrat retirements and a backlash against B. Hussein Obama and his Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Anti-American, Left wing Kooky policies, it would take a miracle for Harry Reid to remain as Senate Majority Leader. A miracle OR ACORN voter fraud.

              Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook, Democrat, U.S. Senator Ben Nelson has no one to blame but
              himself and President B. Hussein Obama for his early retirement. There is no doubt that Democrats are in trouble in 2012 holding on to the U.S. Senate, whether Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook, Democrat U.S. Senator Ben Nelson was running for re-election or not, there was no way that the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook Democrats were going to win in the Nebraska. Ha!!! Can't wait for Nov. 6th, 2012!!!

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              Reply#119 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:15 PM EST

              Wow! An obvious fox fan. You are right about one thing tho. I cannot wait for November either!

                #119.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM EST

                yes 59% of the people want obamacare repealled but 78% of this country wants healthcare reform and 70% of this country puts the cost of health care as a major drain on their monthly income

                while 15% to20% of the country approves of what the house is doing

                20% of what the senate is doing

                51% of what obama is doing

                yep a major shift in power is coming and the lies told to us by the republicans and democrats are going to reap a whirlstorm that has not been seen for quite a while

                Just remember the most people are pissed off and that leads to more people voting that do not get polled very often since either they are working or do not live in the right parts of towns

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                #119.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM EST

                In case you havent noticed, libertarians are running on the republican ticket? So, what party you voting for again? Dem or Republican? lol

                Altho I did hear that one mexican guy is running libertarian too! I forgot his name but yeah, there IS another one! I think he is talking third party run tho.

                  #119.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:41 PM EST

                  the mexican guy? Good Lord.... I can't stop laughing sorry. Gary Johnson (the libertarian candidate) is white and the former Governor of New Mexico. LMAO wow Linda just wow.

                    #119.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:57 PM EST

                    rofl, I saw him once! But yes thats the mexican guy!~ That is his name. I knew he was white already now! Gov of New Mexico, hey I was close!

                    Anybody wanting to know what Ron Paul stands for, here it is all in one site on every issue. I gotta tell ya, what I have read for the most, makes sense. I do not care for his stance on healthcare but this guy is making sense. I might have to take a second look see at him? Tell me what you think after you view the site. And it has the issues for all the others as well but for Ron Paul, this is his page.

                    And it probably wont let me print the link so listen up. www dot issues 2000 dot org/Ron_Paul.htm

                      #119.5 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:17 PM EST

                      just remove the http://www. part and it should post

                      issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm better?

                      I happen to be a Ron Paul supporter thank you very much, I can also give you

                      lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

                      though without you meaning to all you've done is help educate

                        #119.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:03 PM EST

                        thanks, I will remember that. And yes, I intended the sight to educate on all those running. Its a great non partisan site and all of us should utilize it. Happy New Year!

                          #119.7 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 3:40 PM EST

                          Happy New Year to you also Linda! Didn't mean to come off so snotty just sick of the out and out lies being told.

                            #119.8 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 5:20 PM EST
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                            Jonny Bee you are as nuts as your posts are. Ron Paul is as nuts as you are and is a marginal fringe ID 10 T error as you are. While its fun to pretend, reality has a nasty way of inserting itself into your fantasy land and rising up to destroy the imaginal idea that Ron Paul can go anywhere. Have fun with this.

                              Reply#120 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:03 PM EST

                              I thought they really had to be dredging the bottom when they talked about quotes from Ron's newsletters. They were so long ago. How bad could they be? Then I read them. These are not some marginal, could be interpreted several ways kind of quotes. They are virulent racism. He will never, ever be elected with quotes like those on his record.

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                              Reply#121 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:51 PM EST

                              Let's hope he won't be elected, Buffaloes, and not just because of his newsletters. For all those spouting that Paul wants to take us back to the constitution - you all had better read the constitution first - in its entirety. He's a very scary person. Survival of the fittest is not the way I want to live, since I believe in helping those not as fortunate. That cannot be done by your neighbor bringing you a jar of homemade canned beans. I do not want to rely on my mechanical ability to know whether a car has been assembled properly. I do not want to walk out into an area where fracking is taking place and destroying our water table without backup from our federal government. Ron Paul is a dangerous fool who is fooling many people. Look into his background about taking federal money that he says he didn't take during Hurrican Ike. Read Ayn Rand's book. Paul is as phony and frightening as they get.

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                              #121.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:47 AM EST
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                              Ron Paul's popularity is a strong indicator of how badly this nation needs a viable third party. I agree with many liberetarian philosophies but cannot imagine the majority of American people subscribing to Ayn Rand's brand of utopia.

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                              Reply#122 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:30 AM EST

                              Whether you like it or not, he is the only candidate that tells the truth!!!

                                Reply#123 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:11 AM EST

                                No he doesnt richard. He lies right up there with the rest of em. Check out factcheck.org.... He has lied on all the others just like they do him.

                                  #123.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:26 PM EST
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                                  This is my first time following a presidential election and I can say I'm not 100% comfortable with voting for any single candidate, which is fine because anybody who is 100% comfortable must be a clone of one of the candidates I would never vote for Obama again. I'm still kicking myself for that one. He has a good smile and a few good, but ill conceived ideas/policies, but that's it. Most of the GOP candidates are too extreme for me. Ron Paul will get my vote.

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                                  Reply#124 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:46 AM EST

                                  ROFL, Good one! Not for one nano second do I believe you didnt just make that up! Ron Paul has ALWAYS been considered extreme of the extreme! LOL But I gotta say, that WAS BEFORE the so called teaparty. lol Good one,.

                                    #124.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:28 PM EST

                                    You're right Linda, I can't believe how extreme Dr. Paul is, I mean sheesh people having personal liberty and not being lumped into "special groups", pulling our soldiers out of endless war, wanting to have sound money. Yeah that's very extreme.

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                                    #124.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:01 PM EST

                                    In all seriousness do you not consider the conspiracy theory that 9/11 was an inside job a might extreme? I do. I also think it extreme to bury your head in the sand when a country as nutty as Iran gets nuclear. I agree with him that we should mind our own to a point and should not go around shaking our fists, but it should not be taken lightly either.

                                    I do have to say tho in all fairness that after going and having a look see at his points in general, that there is alot worth lookin at, I think I left the ling above. It is actually at that website that is trying to start up a third party platform. Americans Elect 2012. It also has state voting info and local candidates as well and what they stand for. Awesome site.

                                      #124.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:26 PM EST

                                      people did that Linda not Dr. Paul, do i facepalm a lot because I see others doing and saying things that are not in our best interests? Of course!

                                      Please provide me proof with Iran having a nuclear weapon, even if they did who cares? we have a buttload so I'm not real worried, israel has a buttload so REALLY not worried.

                                      I'm glad you're educating yourself Linda, that makes you smarter than a lot of the people, you at least took the time to "dig a little deeper" instead of just listening to the media sound bytes, even if you choose not to vote for Dr. Paul I can respect you.

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                                      #124.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM EST
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                                      I read, I listen and I realize that perhaps I follow a different bend in the Republican Party flow than has been running for many years. I believe Eisenhower had the best Presidency to follow when all is said and done. He is overlooked too often for the calm he brought to a war weary nation. I remember his words, here are a few:

                                      Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

                                      If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom.

                                      In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

                                      The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without.

                                      I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.

                                      This world of ours... must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be, instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

                                      In most communities it is illegal to cry "fire" in a crowded assembly. Should it not be considered serious international misconduct to manufacture a general war scare in an effort to achieve local political aims?

                                      Today only one man running comes close to these sentiments.

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                                      Reply#125 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:09 AM EST

                                      I hear people talk about going to prison for all those things you mentioned. Sad when the lowest among us gets more than honest everyday law abiding working folks isnt it? What does that say about us! I am sick, so I will commit a crime and go to jail and they will take care of me. Im homeless and I will committ a crime and go to jail so I got a warm bed and three squares.

                                      Honestly it is a matter of time before this starts happening imo

                                        #125.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:29 PM EST
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                                        Just as I predicted 6 weeks ago --- it's now Ron Paul's turn to be flavor of the month. He follows Newt who followed Pizza Man who followed Perry who followed Trump, who followed Bachmann who followed Christie who followed Pawlenty who followed Huckabee who followed Palin. Who's next??? Could it be Rick Santorum??

                                        In reality none of this matters. Romney is going to win the nomination and Obama will be elected in November.

                                          Reply#126 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:21 AM EST

                                          Santorum next after ron paul and back to mitt. yeppers. It is all theatre.

                                            Reply#127 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:22 AM EST

                                            When will these idiot politicial candidates learn.......once you decide to run for public office (especially President), everything about you is fair game......so if candidates have skeletons in their past that they don't want made public, don't run for office........Paul's bigoted newsletter is fair game

                                            Imagine what the GOP would have done or said if Obama had made similar writings.......look what they did with Rev Wright's words

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                                            Reply#128 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:26 AM EST

                                            shhh! thats different!

                                              #128.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM EST
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                                              no justification to print money unless it's backed up by gold bars.

                                              Although alot of Paul's stances I agree with the ones I don't I really don't.

                                              Money is a medium to facilitate transactions. Gold is a commodity that in just the past year has wildly fluctuated. Basing what you want to be a stable medium upon an unstable commodity is preposterous.

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                                              Reply#129 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:33 AM EST

                                              Maybe I dont get it. But if my money isnt any good and Im hungry, what is gold gonna do for me? I know off topic, but curious

                                                #129.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:31 PM EST
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                                                Ron Paul policies make sense in some respects, and is totally whacked out in others. A president has to moderate his own views to govern for all.

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                                                Reply#130 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:43 AM EST

                                                I love how everyone grabs an issue, or an alleged issue and tries to make it "the" central issue. The only issue that is important in THIS election to me is that our Federal government is broke. Not behind on a few payments broke, but broke to the point that we are nearing the abyss with absolutely no congressional relief in sight. Want to cry about not getting your COL increase on your social security checks? Try spending your social security check when the government can't make the payment - or prints more money to make the payment thus further devaluing what little you get. Has anyone ever really thought about all the societal good we could do with "JUST" the interest we're presently paying on the debt? If we had a collection of libertarians running the government for 20 years, or at least long enough to get our fiscal house in order who knows what they might accomplish. We have been writing for years, "throw the bums out, term limits, reduce foreign aid, fix welfare, etc." and when a guy comes along that actually offers change, he is labelled a fringe radical that will never work - or in other words, let's keep the status quo. I'm not sold on Ron Paul, but anyone with a sense of logic can figure out that just because he is for the elimination of the Department of Education doesn't make him "anti-education." The DOE was created in the late 70s by Jimmy Carter and its success can easily be measured by how much the US has slipped world-wide in numerous areas and we are further crippling it by forcing measures like no child left behind which makes us focus on the low achievers at the expense of the high achievers - further eroding any competitive advantage in that area. If you have 50 states experimenting with education, you're more likely to see different ideas emerge which will allow others to emulate ideas that work as opposed to a top down strategy that kills any hope of innovation. Added to that is the Federal $$$ saved with the elimination of these departments. The unemployment cited in one of the comments above would be minimal - but when private industry is reducing employment it stands to reason that there should be a subsequent reduction in the federal work force as well - particularly since it is private industry that creates the revenue that pays the federal workers' salaries. This country was once a great nation when success was created by hard work and innovation. In this day and age success is measured by lobbying measures and political connections in the private sector, and in the public sector by how many votes can be bought with so-called societal reforms which purchase the votes of specific minorities at the expense of the general public. Get us back to a system where everyone is responsible for their own selves and leave charity to charities and this country will prosper again. From the field of candidates, democrat or republican, Ron Paul appears to be the only candidate that wants to limit the scope of our federal government and its excesses.

                                                  Reply#131 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:02 AM EST

                                                  so you were not happy with a recession you want a new great depression? Adding federal workers to the unemployment line will only make things worse, Wait that is right they will no longer get health care or and anything and can die on the streets.

                                                  KC paul is on the fringe and lies to you daily all this talk about being a contitilist but he was in the air force a servcie not allowed by the constition

                                                  He receives a paycheck form the goverment(again not allowed)

                                                  you want to make cuts start with congress paychecks, then on to fixing the tax rate so what they actual pay is equal to the tax rate for compinies

                                                  spend a few billion to fix roads now then when they collaspse and find and proscute and seize the assest of medicare and medicad fraud by insurance and health compinies

                                                  oh that is right you want 50 indvialual countries in a confederacy did we not try that before the constition(yes) and durning the civil war(yes)

                                                    #131.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:03 PM EST

                                                    I dont know much, but one thing I do know. We cannot afford to be experiementing with our country at this point in time. Ron Paul is extreme in some things and no way do I want him as president. But hey, Im just one person. Maybe enuff other people feel differently but, he ran 3 other times and no one has given him a second glance. Tells me, they just aint buying him. I shouldnt say no one, but not a majority certainly.

                                                      #131.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:34 PM EST

                                                      Linda, you are like a big sheet blowing in the wind not really sure where you are going or what you stand for. Go ahead and vote for the status quoe, they will take care of you. However I hope you don't have children or grandchildren, because this will not be the same country they inherit in about ten years. Let them pay off the 35 trillion dollar debt, who cares right?

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                                                      #131.3 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 3:52 AM EST

                                                      You can call me what you wish, your name said it all. Yet look at how you talk to me. Not bias are ya? Obvioudly our views of what, when, how , where and why are totally different. You can bash this pres till the cows come home but that does not change the fact that for starters when he took office we were in freefall, or the fact that two unfunded wars and medicare part d were on the deficit for Obama and the tarp and stimulus went toward stopping the freefall and sending us into a depression. Lets not even talk about the fact that the gop takes vowels to a lobbyist and uses their power to do his bidding while ignoring the pleas of we the people. You dont cry foul about any of that do you. Have you researched to see what this president has done, is doing and have you researched how much the other side of the government has been doing or not doing their job other than to oust obama. No I dont think you have. Yet you know the propaganda of every single thing FOX has told you without question. I will be supporting Obama and the reason is this. It is still unclear as to what obama can or cannot do as he is lacking the other side of the governments leadership. Perhaps if he had had the cooperation of the other side that was elected to work for the people and things were still where they are I might consider going elsewhere. But it isnt even about obama with me as much as me not voting for a republican (any republican) tht takes a pledge to anything other than the office they were hired to fill. So bash Obama till the cows come home, but the gop has done this to themself all by themself.

                                                        #131.4 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 10:39 AM EST
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                                                        Linda, I have not bashed Obama, I am bashing the establishment Republicans and Democrats alike. There is not a dimes worth of difference between the two. I do not subscribe to Faux News points of view anymore than I do the Clinton News Networks point of view. I would much rather research on my own the candidates voting records and legislation. One thing they cannot lie about is their public voting records. As far as reaching across the aisle and getting things done I bet Ron Pauls ideals of individuality and not party politics will come closer to getting the job done than will any other candidates ideals.

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                                                        Reply#132 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 1:51 PM EST

                                                        Well then I apologize for my rant. I misunderstood. I agree with what you said about party politics but until we change the system and how it operates, we are just putting another face in a seat. He can promise and he can tell us all what we want to hear. But I think its obvious that he will be stopped from achieving anything he said, just like Obama. We have got to address this obstructionism that happens because they dont like what the people elected. We need to make it clear who is working for who. imo

                                                          #132.1 - Sun Jan 1, 2012 3:37 PM EST
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